peripherals

[viscid tapir]

quality is the same just design is not stolen

[arctic shuttle]

But they are not clones

[viscid tapir]

i also buy clones like gmk clones

but i prefer WoB and BoW

if i pay 10 times more i expect 10 times better quality

why would i waste so much money

[pseudo owl]

Whatever

[arctic shuttle]

So try it, purchase a set of GMK, ePBT or signature plastic BoW and you'll get that

[pseudo owl]

Lost cause imho

[viscid tapir]

i have nicepbt and pbtfans

[pseudo owl]

I ain’t wasting my time

Ok that’s nice

[viscid tapir]

and they feel exactly like 15eur from aliexpress and those are 90eur

also nicepbt has worse colors

what i am trying to say why do people complain about ethics

just let people enjoy stuff

[pseudo owl]

Because some things are unethical

[viscid tapir]

lithium batteries are unethical

and you use them

[pseudo owl]

Mhm

I do

[viscid tapir]

wireless keyboards

[arctic shuttle]

Why do people complain about ethics........ That's a very sociopathic thing to say

[pseudo owl]

I can’t stop it however.

[viscid tapir]

you are not able to stop clones

both will happen without you

vegan not eating stake gets thrown in the dumpster

they will have zero impact

[arctic shuttle]

But I can support the designers they were cloned from

[pseudo owl]

Mhm

[viscid tapir]

you believe designers earn money

[pseudo owl]

Whatever

At this point

[viscid tapir]

no company does

[pseudo owl]

Just

[pseudo owl]

Because they do

[viscid tapir]

you know how much percentage spotify steals form artists

my friend has a band on spotify

they do not earn shit

[arctic shuttle]

I know designers earn money because I'm a designer? Hello

[viscid tapir]

spotify is as bad as piracy

[pseudo owl]

Lol

[pseudo owl]

Yeah

[viscid tapir]

spotify takes almost 80%

[arctic shuttle]

But that's Spotify

[viscid tapir]

and you are left with 20%

you think gmk pays artists more

no they hold monopoly

[arctic shuttle]

I know GMK pays artists more

[viscid tapir]

i would like to see the source

still me wasting 150eur on gmk will earn artist 1eur

[arctic shuttle]

I'm not posting a contract to a linus tech tips discord

[viscid tapir]

nice i made artist buy an ice cream

while i wasted almost a week of pay

i just do not see a reason why people get attacked for buying cheap keycaps

gmk is like veganism of mechanical keyboards

like saying piracy damages companies while they throw unethical microtransactions with no respect for their customers to milk them out of their money

someone who pirates a game will just rather not play it than buy it

therefore no money will be lost for company

also how many sales are made 100mil or 200mil on opening weekend

[arctic shuttle]

Not stacked for buying cheap keycaps, you are ridiculed for buying clones. And not the sense that you have clones, but openly admitting to not caring you are not supporting the original designers.

They keyboard community has been trying to rid clones for a while, but it's newcomers that see pretty colors for cheap that keep them coming

[viscid tapir]

are clones illegal

no they are not

also cheap aliexpress keycaps are not illegal

they are frowned upon

elitists try to get rid of clones yes

[boreal rivet]

oh so are you saying the original designers of the Dolch colourscheme are getting paid !!!!

[viscid tapir]

clones are the reason why a lot of new people get into keyboards

[arctic shuttle]

You can't put cheap and clones in the same sentence, cheap keycaps are fine, clones are not

[viscid tapir]

designers get paid pennies

[boreal rivet]

says you lmao

[viscid tapir]

i support both

[arctic shuttle]

I'm done, you have no idea what you're talking about with this

[viscid tapir]

no my friend is engineer who designs and another is on spotify both get ripped totally off

i saw their paperwork

if i buy 150eur gmk artist will maybe get 1eur out of it

[boreal rivet]

I'm not talking to you

don't talk to me thanks

[viscid tapir]

i type not talk

[boreal rivet]

don't be pedantic for the sake of it

[viscid tapir]

yes good luck lashing out on people for beign afford to buy keyboards

if you want to gatekeep community go ahead

[arctic shuttle]

It's literally not gatekeeping but go off

[viscid tapir]

you lose nothing if someone buys cheap keycaps

yet you want to gatekeep them

you gatekeep people from buying cheap keycaps

this is definition of gatekeeping

[arctic shuttle]

Are you not understanding there is a difference between cheap and clones?

[viscid tapir]

yes and i support both

cheap are cheap clones are stolen designs

but i support both because they are both cheap

stolen design is not equal to stolen product

logitech steals from razer

but they are still different in manufacturing

[arctic shuttle]

Wait, I recognize your name. Didn't you get banned off of multiple keyboard discords and KBDfans for hostile attitude and opinions?

[viscid tapir]

i was banned from few because i tried to be defend subjective opinions of many innocent people while elitists attack people for no reason yes

i say live and let live if you like cheap keyboards or expensive keyboards

but people get offended of poor people buying mechanical keyboards

i never got that why being aggressive and disrespectful to other people gives nothing to your life

i was banned while never using a single slur or insult

while i was called a clown an n word and r word

[boreal rivet]

stop the cap

[arctic shuttle]

That is cap

[viscid tapir]

i got asked and i answered

you have to pay attention to details

[arctic shuttle]

Elitists didn't come at you, you didn't like their opinions and belittled them, just as you are doing here.

Or tried to at least

[kind drum]

"like" is a small word for trowing thousands in bunch of plastic and alu

😄

[arctic shuttle]

This dude also got scammed on switches and started swinging on the whole hipyotech server

[boreal rivet]

imagine being in that shitter's server

ew

[arctic shuttle]

The server basically has nothing to do with hipyo his name is just attached to it

He gets insulted all the time

[boreal rivet]

sounds like a waste of time

[arctic shuttle]

It's pretty fun

Not for everyone though

[boreal rivet]

meh

[viscid tapir]

we can go back a little back have i ever insulted you no

did you mock my taste yes

all i tried to do is share opinion that everyone should be respected

but sadly some insecure people have issue with allowing people to be happy

you know what marcus aurelius said

opinion of 10000 men is of no value if they do not know anything about the subject

only hostility i have noticed on discord were tech servers but not all primarily mechanical keyboard ones

i just do not understand what is wrong with standing up for people who are poor

all i tried to do is defend opinions of people who are not able to afford expensive keyboards

but you went batshit crazy with gatekeeping

[gentle sandal]

What do you guys think of the new video LTT released about mechanical keyboards?

seems a bit overwhelming for people who are not already privy to keyboards

[pseudo owl]

I’ll check it out

After school

So like

Tomorrow lol

I have a busy night

[arctic shuttle]

Thank you for saying this

[viscid tapir]

i never said you do not know anything i just passed a quote

what i wanted to point out if people ban you it is not always they are right

back in the day people burned witches with crowd mentality

you just have to do some research

[arctic shuttle]

Getting into keyboards is a big step, but it's not super complicated. Having the right person to get you started makes the journey much easier. Videos in general push a lot of information very quickly, you have to dissect it. The video was a bit much for someone just trying to get into keyboards, but it's okay. It's a place to start

[opaque shard]

My taste in keyboard is superior

[pseudo owl]

This

[arctic shuttle]

Adda boy

[gentle sandal]

That's what I thought too

[opaque shard]

It's all about maximum utility

And that's why my keyboard is superior

[pseudo owl]

For real tho didgy I love your keebs tho

[arctic shuttle]

It's about ostentatious keycaps too

[arctic shuttle]

More expensive = more better

[opaque shard]

Here's my next design

I'm gonna color it all pink

And I'm gonna fit the keys tighter than ever before

We're down to 13mm keyspacing babyyyyyy

[arctic shuttle]

Screw the keys, replace then with capacitive pads

[opaque shard]

All of yous tastes must bow before my genius inventions

[arctic shuttle]

Yes sir 👍

[opaque shard]

Once I'm done, I have to make a copy and send it to LTT for some nice roasting

[arctic shuttle]

Engrave the back with lttstore.com

[opaque shard]

Now we're talking

[arctic shuttle]

Print the PCB with linus' face on it too

[viscid tapir]

what is maximum utility

[viscid tapir]

like supreme

[opaque shard]

To me, max utility means trying to maximize ergonomics, portability and usefulness

For instance, I've found that I can do everything that 104 key keyboards can do, I can do with 28 keys

[viscid tapir]

i like tkl i barely use function keys and arrows but i like them for coding and rts games

[arctic shuttle]

Damn straight

[opaque shard]

I started using navigation keys a lot more since I got this keyboard, since they are so easy to reach now

[viscid tapir]

idk i guess logitech keyboard for 10eur does everything 90eur does just feels less premium

[opaque shard]

I'm not using a cheap keyboard 😠

I'm using the one I've designed

[viscid tapir]

i still have highest wpm on cheapest logitech

thinking of getting one cheap office keyboard again they are so neat

[broken totem]

What kind of switches are the best (in everyone’s opinions)

I like tactiles

Linears are icky to me

I’ve only tried one kind of linears but I imagine they’re mostly similar

[arctic shuttle]

Tactile for typing linear for gaming

Clicky for typing with a little bit of spice

Now, if you are saying "whats your favorite switch", consider the following subjective information:
Linear - Durock Mambas or Vint Blacks
Tactile - T1 Halosuns (Halo True Stem, Durock Sunflower Housing, 55g Spring)
Clicky - 2013-2015 Razer Greens (Kailh + Greetech)

[viscid tapir]

it is completely subjective no wrong answer each person prefers a different thing i primarily just use linear switches i used to only use tactile switches for years but i only like brown switches with pretravel out of tactile group not a fan of clicky switches too crispy on feel and loud except for kailh box white switches they are only clicky switch i like but i miss tactile feedback

[opaque shard]

I only use super light switches with short travel distance to minimize effort to type. So I use 20gf linears. There's no tactility to be had at light springs anyways

[arctic shuttle]

Dang son that's a light switch

[viscid tapir]

20g for top or 20g for bottom

[opaque shard]

Bottom I guess?

[pseudo owl]

Yo @arctic shuttle I think I got my first franken all built out, just gotta buy it all. What do you think?

Outemu cream yellow housing
Outemu panda stem (I changed this because I wanted to have a better housing for more frankens later down the road)
Spring from outemu cream

And then outemu panda housing and outemu cream yellow stem

Should be nice

Basically budget U4T

And yes I know U4T’s are only 10 cents more

[arctic shuttle]

It sounds interesting, I personally dispise panda housings

Why do much outemu

You're gonna need films

[pseudo owl]

Cheap

Outemu is nice too

[pseudo owl]

Sounds good. I will pick some up when I order some more keyboard stuff.

[arctic shuttle]

Wait wait wait, box stem?

[pseudo owl]

Yeah

[arctic shuttle]

Why?

[pseudo owl]

That’s like all of the good outemu stuff

[arctic shuttle]

Cap wobble?

[pseudo owl]

99% of outemu stuff is box

Cream, the seasonal switches, the normal stuff, the red blue brown, there’s a few non box stuff

[arctic shuttle]

Trust, try Durock T1 bottom housings, regular for more thock, Sunflower for more clack

Insane tactility leaf

[pseudo owl]

Aight I gotta try

[arctic shuttle]

They a bit pricey, you could go with the jwicks

But they are cherry style housings, oops

Not gonna work

Nvm ignore me

[viscid tapir]

i also like light switches but do you not have any return issues

[opaque shard]

Not at all

[viscid tapir]

where do you get such light springs i know sprit sells lightest 55g and tx 45g

[pseudo owl]

I think they use low pro keyboard

Which means way lighter

[viscid tapir]

aaaa

ok

[arctic shuttle]

Thock pop

[pseudo owl]

I’ve seen one switch have 28g

[opaque shard]

@viscid tapir I use this

[pseudo owl]

Love it tbh

[viscid tapir]

i have 50g bottom out and long spring and return is not that good anymore

[viscid tapir]

nice looks like the one they use it court

[opaque shard]

I don't actually remember where I ordered my springs

[viscid tapir]

i prefer low profiled keyboards but they lack customization

[opaque shard]

It's infinitely customizable if you just 3D print every piece and design your own PCBs 😉

[pseudo owl]

Mhm

[viscid tapir]

true you can also create your gpu

but there is not much on the market

i like least amount of effort

main reason why i have such bad wpm on mechanical keyboard

is primarily travel distance

miss just going to the store and buying logitech or razer keyboard

with no stresss of finding for ideal springs and lubing them

[opaque shard]

I don't remember the last time I just bought something without careful considerations

[viscid tapir]

took me over a year to buy springs

and a couple of years to buy a mouse

[arctic shuttle]

Takes me 2 seconds

If I like I keep

If I don't I sell

Don't like these switches, lemme l+f and add $25 to whatever I paid

[patent void]

Hey everyone looking for switch suggestions, I'm currently using a corsair mx70 with mx blues, I love blues for typing everyday for my job but gaming has been a problem where I need to click really fast and repetitively, I was looking at either speed silver or reds would love some thoughts on which to go with next? (only have best buy and staples in canada to shop from)

[arctic shuttle]

Check out the steelseries Apex pro. They are adjustable optical switches

[last trench]

Finally went out and took some nice pictures of the Swoop!

[arctic shuttle]

Unless you are set on sticking with mechanical switches, reds will have a better typing experience

[arctic shuttle]

Interesting shots

[last trench]

can't say I'm good at photography hah

[arctic shuttle]

No the photos themselves are great it's just an interesting backdrop

[last trench]

Yeah I mean I've seen others put their keyboards in nature so I thought I should too, though this is a bit more cliffy than most

I think it works well for the first picture especially

[arctic shuttle]

It's an interesting juxtaposition of organic and inorganic

[last trench]

indeed

[arctic shuttle]

I'd love to see a shot of it on a desk, well used

A nice staged shot

[last trench]

Desk definitely needs cleaning. I have a few picture of it on my desk but they're not great

Either way it was a nice 5km walk

Gotta include one with the fortress

Quite far away tho

I might go closer another time

[broken totem]

Yup, that is what I was asking 💀

[broken totem]

I know it’s subjective, that’s why I said “in everyone’s opinion”

[arctic shuttle]

Ya it's dope, solid photography

[last trench]

Thanks!!

[arctic shuttle]

Ah perfect, well there are some of my backed opinions

I don't expect the average consumer to go ahead and start frankenswitching but, I just couldn't find a heavy enough tactile bump anywhere else

[broken totem]

Makes sense

I still have yet to buy a mechanical keyboard of any kind tbh, I just like the intricacies of them

[arctic shuttle]

That's why I got into it

Take a look at some of MechWilds offerings if you want to solder on components like smds and really build your own keyboard

[broken totem]

I like tactiles, linears feel a bit off, and I’ve never tried clicky switches but I’d assume they’re not too different from tactiles aside from noise profile

[broken totem]

Oh interesting

[broken totem]

Is that yours?

[arctic shuttle]

Mhmm

[broken totem]

Looks sick

[arctic shuttle]

It's a cutie, but I can't type on it

[broken totem]

Is it not done or something?

[arctic shuttle]

No it's just a 40%

[last trench]

my 36key keyboard was my first custom

the one pictured

[warped fjord]

In the market for a mechanical keyboard mainly for gaming. Any recommendations for a good TKL? Don’t care about RGB. Been using the Durgod Taurus K320 for 4 years. However the latency is higher than most keyboards.

[serene obsidian]

picking up a keychron board tomorrow

[chrome raft]

i use a keychron at work, its alright.

no real complaints about it. its nothing special either.

its "good enough"

[topaz sparrow]

It's 👌

[magic wolf]

Well my friend

Software is your best friend

And the “gaming” brands have crap software

I know the keychron stuff has a lightweight keybind suite

[warped fjord]

I haven’t used software at all for the Durgod Taurus k320

Been using it for 4 years

Not too fussy about the brand, RGB, or software. Just looking for a simple TKL with good latency @magic wolf

[warped fjord]

Never heard of keychron

[magic wolf]

Better than any gamer brand you have heard of

[warped fjord]

I’ll look into it

[magic wolf]

If you don’t care about RGB you’re in for a good time

[warped fjord]

Never been a fan of keyboards from big gamer brands

[magic wolf]

Everybody becomes one eventually

Starts as one* I should say

[warped fjord]

I can see that

[boreal rivet]

no lol

[warped fjord]

My first and only mechanical keyboard has been Durgod Taurus k320 and it’s still working great. Just wanted to try something else

[serene obsidian]

I have been very happy with my HyperX Alloy Origins Core. It's pretty good for a gaming board. HyperX Aqua tactile switches are pretty nice. It's RGB, but it works fine out of the box and you can save solid color backlighting to the board itself and then uninstall the software if you don't wanna deal with default rainbow wave. My Corsair board that was twice the price made you keep the software installed if you wanted to have custom profiles

[magic wolf]

I’m big fan of 60%, learning to fn bind is like learning to type again…..but once you get good at it

Woooo da macros

[magic wolf]

Icue is just bloated software in general

[serene obsidian]

corsair keycaps are poopbuttass too, my escape and function row keys were constantly popping off

[magic wolf]

It’s not about the lighting even, there’s just nothing good for binds

[serene obsidian]

didn't icue have a privesc vulnerability

[magic wolf]

Razer I think

[serene obsidian]

i know synapse did

[blissful dragon]

that's my concern of 60%, if i don't like fn binding

but i do love the looks

[warped fjord]

Looking at Keychron keyboards now. I’m liking what I’m seeing

Simple design

[magic wolf]

Ye, the soft is good for gamer. And a standard hotswap everything

[magic wolf]

Nobody likes it until they brute force themselves to like it

It’s just like using Linux

[blissful dragon]

hmm

[serene obsidian]

linux is fun with a nice keeb

[blissful dragon]

yeah i'm not completely sure if i get a 60% or tkl as a first mechanical keyboard

[magic wolf]

Are you coming from a full boi with a keypad?

[blissful dragon]

numpad? yeah

but i won't ever use the numpad

[warped fjord]

TKL is my go to but I don’t mind trying 60%

[magic wolf]

Yeah you’re gonna, miss that F row and you will miss the delete key a lot

[warped fjord]

I like having the F1,F2,F3 etc keys

[magic wolf]

Id go for the tkl

[blissful dragon]

yeah tkl is more beginner friendly

[magic wolf]

The advantage a 60 has is once you overcome….however long that may take, you don’t need to take your hands away from your standard alphabet movements

[blissful dragon]

and more desk space

[boreal rivet]

how is that an issue

[blissful dragon]

and better looks imo

[boreal rivet]

most people just use 60 for more space/aesthetics

[blissful dragon]

hi mx

[magic wolf]

I never said it was an issue

The first thing I said was “the advantage”

[boreal rivet]

that just implies the inverse is a problem

[boreal rivet]

who are you

[blissful dragon]

check our mutual friends

but yeah you don't know me

[magic wolf]

I made it very clear the pro was a fluid function row / macro key typing experience with the con being a steep learning curve.
#I try to be self aware of bias when I can.

[blissful dragon]

gastrail can maybe explain

[glossy sandal]

whar

[blissful dragon]

scroll up

[glossy sandal]

what am i explaining

people use different layouts tailored to what they're comfortable with

[radiant lodge]

but 60% is the best so

[chrome raft]

i got my wife an iqnix f97(https://iqunix.store/products/f97-hitchhiker?variant=39750760038460) with gold pink. I still just use a razer blackwidow v3.

[radiant lodge]

thats very nice of you bellend

[warped fjord]

The Keychron keyboards use Gateron switches. Is Gateron brown equivalent to cherry brown?

[chrome raft]

honestly, if there was a keyboard like a blackwidow v3 id swap over, but i havent found any that really have the same key spacing and feel

[glossy sandal]

they

they're similar yes

[chrome raft]

i really hope you know what my name means, because thats hilarious, and if you dont know, dont google it

[boreal rivet]

huh

[radiant lodge]

i know i live in the uk

[boreal rivet]

the blackwidow is the most generic gaming keyboard ever

literally anything else has the same spacing

[chrome raft]

making sure hahaha, i grew up in bangor lol

[glossy sandal]

isn't the blackwidow just a standard mx

[boreal rivet]

it is

[glossy sandal]

i mean tkl

mx tkl

[chrome raft]

its something about the spacing between the tops of the keycaps.

and the comfort grooves

[boreal rivet]

thats just OEM profile

[glossy sandal]

cherry is pretty naise

[boreal rivet]

every keycap has "comfort grooves"??

[glossy sandal]

oem being taller cherry

[radiant lodge]

cherry best

oem too tall

[glossy sandal]

so real

[boreal rivet]

skill issue

[glossy sandal]

oh hi mx

[boreal rivet]

hi

[glossy sandal]

what was lux saying

[radiant lodge]

no idea

[glossy sandal]

silly little guy

[radiant lodge]

sum about 60-%

[glossy sandal]

dude let's play

[radiant lodge]

im ready

[glossy sandal]

fubuki sucks

beat you like 3 times already

[radiant lodge]

ik im using ayame

[glossy sandal]

oh alright

[blissful dragon]

who i am

to mz

mx

[boreal rivet]

i just vaguely remember you as a shitter

[blissful dragon]

lmao

how

[glossy sandal]

LMAO

[warped fjord]

https://www.amazon.ca/Keychron-Q2-Hotswap-Keyboard-Grey/dp/B0B4PY9M1C/ref=asc_df_B0B4PY9M1C/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=578912079728&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=651260210635265940&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1001928&hvtargid=pla-1876293174879&th=1

[chrome raft]

whats a good "oem" feel that has replaceable switches, addressable rgb, a good solid and soft wristwrest(preferably that fits into it, not some amazon extra), full size keyboard, and wireless and wired capabilites

[glossy sandal]

a keychron k10 pro?

[chrome raft]

i have that at work.

no.

[glossy sandal]

lel

[chrome raft]

it doesnt have controllable rgb

it just has preset stuff

[radiant lodge]

idk what i'd do if my rgb wasnt programmable

[warped fjord]

Keychron Q2 pricing is similar to Wooting 60HE. Which one would you go for if you had to choose between the two?

[blissful dragon]

i don't care about rgb on a keyboard

maybe 13 year old me did

[warped fjord]

Likewise

[glossy sandal]

trying to think of something.

[chrome raft]

i do, because 1.) i like to match it to my PC, and 2.) i like to be able to control its brightness and colours depending on the time of day and such

[radiant lodge]

wooting bruh

[chrome raft]

well im 36, im not asking for it to be OMGAMERZ, i just want it to be nice lol.

[blissful dragon]

lmao

[warped fjord]

Never used a 60% board. Do you just have to use the FN function to access the Del key?

[blissful dragon]

yeah

[chrome raft]

my issue with smaller boards is i need a numpad

[warped fjord]

If I wanted to press Del to access Bios I just have to hold down FN and the button that’s assigned to Del?

[glossy sandal]

dude mx so mean bruh

so blunt bruh

[blissful dragon]

i couldn't care less about a numpad

[glossy sandal]

have you considered a seperate numpad?

[chrome raft]

you obviously dont work in a place that uses it a lot lol

[warped fjord]

Might try the wooting 60he just to see what the hype is about

[chrome raft]

id want it to match the keyboard aesthetically

[blissful dragon]

i don't even have a job lmao

[chrome raft]

so if theres something like that id be fine with it

[chrome raft]

obviously 😉

[boreal rivet]

It helps when someone tries to be too familiar with me

[glossy sandal]

hahaha

lux little silly guy

[blissful dragon]

yeah

[chrome raft]

numpads dont matter until youre in the professional world tbh

[blissful dragon]

i'm just a silly little guy

[radiant lodge]

POG

[glossy sandal]

nice board

is it about you

[radiant lodge]

what

[glossy sandal]

airheaded and all that

[radiant lodge]

ha ha

[chrome raft]

i actually thought that was a weird set of ballocks before i zoomed in

TIL i need a bigger laptop screen.

[radiant lodge]

ahahahaha

balls

[glossy sandal]

@radiant lodge are we still playing

did you levae

[radiant lodge]

yes

i was looking at the pics my manu sent

[glossy sandal]

gaojie fit kinda fire though

[radiant lodge]

real

[glossy sandal]

im rocking with the thin belt

[radiant lodge]

belt goes hard

[glossy sandal]

haaha

[radiant lodge]

omg i was gonna say that

[chrome raft]

if you think of something that could replace my blackwidow let me know

[glossy sandal]

pondering real hard right now

ill lyk

[chrome raft]

not a huge fan of it, but i simply havent found anything else that does it all

[glossy sandal]

so remind me of the criteria again

full size, fully addressable rgb, hotswappable.

[chrome raft]

full keyboard, OEM layout of keys and key height, addressable RGB, hot swappable switches

wireless

PREFERABLY usb c

[glossy sandal]

ok so about oem layout and keys, you can change the keys to oem whenever you'd like.

[chrome raft]

fair, but not so much the layout

as in like no squished layouts

makes it impossible to use for me, muscle memory is strong.

[warped fjord]

Anyone here try the wooting 60he?

[sonic bloom]

I made dis and still gotta learn how to type as I'm used to ISO German.

It's the Akko Mod 007v2 with stock U4T (will likely be replaced by U4Tx when they arrive) and Durock v2-GSV2 stabs (GSV2 casing, rest is Durock due to fit issues with the PC plate), only the enter key is a full Durock v2.
Caps are the Glorious ABS double shot.

Oh and the numpad is the Glorious one with PC plate and lubed Pandas/U4T mix, might also be replaced by U4Tx

[glossy mica]

hows the numpad

[viscid tapir]

yes this is why i added my subjective opinion

i usually get attacked for "hostile opinions" while i always add this is just my subjective opinion but some people gatekeep well elitists

[viscid tapir]

loos nice i like magenta or lavender backlight

i wonder do you actually use numpad that much see a ton of people getting it

[radiant lodge]

she shipped it today

[arctic shuttle]

Good morning LTT keyboard

Holy Thockers

Lil' Tharblers

[boreal rivet]

cringe

[arctic shuttle]

I've got 3 more they just get worse I promise you

[broken totem]

Dawg I hate to be that guy I really do but nobody asked

Like I know it’s true but I asked about your preferences not past experiences 💀

[viscid tapir]

but who asked you to respond to me

[broken totem]

You were talking to me literally the message before that one but alrighty dude

[viscid tapir]

i replied i never said i wanted a response

[broken totem]

Responding in a conversation is the polite thing to do, but it’s a dumb thing to fight about so how about let’s not

Seeming kinda hostile today bruv

[viscid tapir]

i just shared a thought you are the one being upset over my thought

you are the one saying you i should not have posted that

i never tried to control what you said

[broken totem]

I didn’t say you shouldn’t have wtf 💀💀💀

[viscid tapir]

idk why are you taking it personal

[broken totem]

At the moment you’re ranting because I said nobody asked, I don’t know how I’m the one taking it personal.

[viscid tapir]

dude calm down and take a deep breath and start thinking rationally

[broken totem]

I’m plenty calm, how ‘bout you?

[viscid tapir]

why would i not be

[broken totem]

Well so far you’re going off on me because I simply said “nobody asked” so I’m under the impression that you’re not calm

[viscid tapir]

i am completely calm just baffled why you are taking it personal over simple opinion on the internet

you could just as well ignore it

but oyu decided to comment what people should and should not say

[broken totem]

Dawg I didn’t take anything personal at this point you’re just in my face over nothing

[viscid tapir]

why are you getting upset over it with "dawg" and "skulls"

[broken totem]

And also when did I say that? You’re twisting my words to you can get offended by them 💀

[viscid tapir]

just ignore it and move on

[broken totem]

That’s how I tend to speak on discord but yeah sure I’m upset

[viscid tapir]

i said what i had to say there is no point in continuing this

it is a waste of time

[broken totem]

I’m the one who said we shouldn’t fight and you kept going you silly goose

Silly billy 🤭

[viscid tapir]

just stop with the rant and move on it is that simple

[broken totem]

Look back at who was ranting dude 💀💀

Yooo fr?

Yeah I can tell he likes hearing himself

Bro got pissed off because a 14 year old on the internet said “nobody asked”

Interesting

Lmao

[arctic shuttle]

REVAN why are you picking fights with people

This is why you got banned in Hipyo Thock

[glossy mica]

My favorite board

Wym lol

[arctic shuttle]

Wait a second is that a glacier

[glossy mica]

cloudline

[arctic shuttle]

Ah, hmmmmm

[glossy mica]

It’s amazing if you like a more high pitched sound signature

[arctic shuttle]

What makes it your favorite board

[glossy mica]

The anodization is perfect, color is super nice, it’s 3kg, and I really like the theming with the engravings

The designer is also a cool dude

Oh why?

Noice

I use mx blacks pretty much exclusively

Sick

I want dcs red alert

Ah nice lol

I still haven’t used any of mine

Going to the NK meetup so I’ll prob get smth worked out to use one lol

Wow that looks almost a perfect match

I thought masterpiece was a lot lighter

Noice

I’m looking out for F1-V2 this summer

Also I looked at your mutual servers and I understand this now lol

I honestly don’t know why it was that hyped but I’m just glad I got it

yep

how many boards you got

I have 4 atm

lmao

I usually sell a board everytime I get a new one

coolio

I would have nowhere to put them lol

I have mine in carrying cases

[radiant lodge]

can you send me a korn compat pcb purchase link for a vendor in canada

[arctic shuttle]

I am down to only a couple of boards, the rest have been sold

[sonic bloom]

@glossy mica @foggy socket it is really nice imho and probably kinda on par with the GMMK Pro. Stabs are fine to me but I also saw people hating on the GMMK stock stabs and I guess they are in there as well. The slider can be assigned separately which I did for spotify and it's freaking awesome. It does feel really nice. I would recommend having it on a mousepad tho, that way it just sounds super bassy which I love. Feel is decent with the switches I used. I kinda did "overgasket" it just for the lulz and it got really bassy because of it yet it doesn't have much flex. I like it.

[arctic shuttle]

G.O.A.T. stabs are such a meme

Have you experienced them sticking yet?

[sonic bloom]

nope, they do feel super smooth tho

[arctic shuttle]

You got super super lucky

[sonic bloom]

already guessed so. But the GSV2 are just like 10-15 bucks or so and those are great.

Durock stems and GSV2 casing do have very little wobble, tried it myself when assembling

Just saw my u4tx in the mailbox

still think it's kinda funny I opted for an ANSI board when I've been typing on ISO boards my entire life because Germany almost exclusively has ISO-DE layout which is completely different from any other layout

[arctic shuttle]

Tx and cherry stabs are cheaper and significantly better. Durocks have faded out a lot in the community, as there were a handful of problems with them. You have staebies to help prevent stem wobble, but stem wobble isn't really an issue as long as you keycaps to switch stem connection is tight

[sonic bloom]

alright. I've seen quite some odd behaviour on pure GSV2 with the GMMK2 but the combo seems quite nice.

Availability isn't all that great here for all those I didn't try but cherry.

[arctic shuttle]

Cherry clip ins are just magnificent

Especially for the price

[sonic bloom]

eeh I kinda wanted to go with screw ins

[arctic shuttle]

What about screw ins do you like?

Clip ins are very very similar

[sonic bloom]

probably just mind tricks but it seems to be able to be less rattly

[arctic shuttle]

Your quality clip ins shouldn't rattle, but I understand

[sonic bloom]

also thing with the other stabs is that Idk what are best for me yet I don't really wanna try all of em out bc that would mean lubing them

too tedious for a possible disappointment due to minimal benefit

[arctic shuttle]

I mean, you have costar, clip ins, plate mounted, screw ins, and Razer stabs. That's your extent of stabs. Razer stabs are exclusive to optical keyboards from Razer, costar isn't really necessary on a quality MX board, plate mounts are not spectacular and rattle the most, screw ins are the most sturdy but suffer from resonance issues, same with clip ins but less as they are not torqued down

[sonic bloom]

I mean since the pcb is like 1.2mm only I also used some foam underneath the stabs but I get ya

[arctic shuttle]

Oh, tx makes 1.2mm stabs as well

[glossy mica]

owlstabs and tx are my favorite

[arctic shuttle]

I've had binding issues with owlab before

[glossy mica]

which version did you use

[arctic shuttle]

V1 I believe

[viscid tapir]

you are the one harassing me

[glossy mica]

I know V3's had some issues

[viscid tapir]

i have blocked you both

[glossy mica]

I get V2's on qwertykeys

[arctic shuttle]

I haven't done anything, stop

[viscid tapir]

grow up this is tech server for adults

not a kindergarten

[arctic shuttle]

Leave me alone, stop picking fights with everyone who has different opinions and calling them elitists

[arctic shuttle]

What's going on with the v3's

[glossy mica]

idk

nor do I really care tbh lol

these are the good ones https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/owlstab

[arctic shuttle]

Anywhere else besides qwertykeys?

[glossy mica]

you can use the code cub65 and get two sets for $30 shipped to the US

[arctic shuttle]

That's actually not bad,

Better then durocks I'm sure

[glossy mica]

its the best

[sonic bloom]

U4Tx are inferior

they feel super mushy

[arctic shuttle]

What's going on, what about them? Interior to what

[sonic bloom]

U4T

[arctic shuttle]

Ah, I've stayed away from them tbh

Needs more tactility

[glossy mica]

I used to be a tactile guy but im all linear now

[arctic shuttle]

Linears are just bliss

[sonic bloom]

eeh not for me

[arctic shuttle]

That's fair

[sonic bloom]

and they are super scratchy feeling

like

[arctic shuttle]

Really? That's kinda wild from a gazzew

[sonic bloom]

U4T = smooth enough
U4Tx = feeling kinda scratchy

like not metal scratchy

I think it is the silicone

it's also super sticky

[arctic shuttle]

U4T 's are pretty smooth after lube imo

[sonic bloom]

tried the switch without the silicone

[sonic bloom]

they're smooth enough stock imho

I might film mine, idk yet

[glossy mica]

I dont film switches anymore

[arctic shuttle]

They have that little bit of scratch though. Not like a cream or cherry scratch, but just enough for me to go like, hmmm

[arctic shuttle]

You don't really need to for switches after 2022

[glossy mica]

yeah

[arctic shuttle]

Some here and there but not many

[glossy mica]

I just buy like 500 mx blacks at a time and use those

[arctic shuttle]

I scalp them for their nylon tops xD

[glossy mica]

frankenswitches are kinda dumb nowadays imo

[sonic bloom]

I get you, I feel it too but honestly only when I really try feeling it y'know?

Like, normal use? Don't notice it

[arctic shuttle]

Once you break them in they go away

[sonic bloom]

btw is there any recommendation for a better tactile than a U4T 65g?

might also be why mine are fine now

[glossy mica]

neopolitans maybe

[arctic shuttle]

My frankenswitches

[sonic bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[arctic shuttle]

They are a lot of work for minimal pay out. Like BCP's are become more and more obsolete

[sonic bloom]

[glossy mica]

yeah i'd rather save on my switches to buy more caps

[arctic shuttle]

Lol grab some Halo Trues off drop, some Durock Sunflowers off daangkeebs and slap then together

[glossy mica]

just from using 23 cent mx blacks instead of 65 cent anything else, I save a GMK set worth after building two boards

[arctic shuttle]

Ya that will do it

I'm so mad I didn't hop on the GMK kitsune gb

Keycaps are gorgeous

[glossy mica]

there will be extras

[arctic shuttle]

Ya but for more than $125

[sonic bloom]

what about the neopolitans? They actually worth a try?

[arctic shuttle]

Oh ya

[glossy mica]

ive heard they're mega tactile

[arctic shuttle]

They rival the u4t

[glossy mica]

ive been wanting a few keysets but idk which ones im actually gonna get

[arctic shuttle]

Cojiro is my personal favorite along side black lotus

[glossy mica]

ive been eying hooty, panels, and redline

[arctic shuttle]

Hooty is cute

Panels and redline in see the appeal

[sonic bloom]

I think imma stick to the U4T then

[arctic shuttle]

You can always get a couple to try out

[serene obsidian]

Keychron board has exceeded my expectations

These optical red switches are actually really nice

[viscid tapir]

keychron switches are also pretty well factory lubed compared to other switches

[arctic shuttle]

The low profile optical reds?

[serene obsidian]

Yes

I've got a board with low profile outemu blues and they're pretty shit comparatively

[arctic shuttle]

Hi jingle wingle

With what keyboard

[arctic shuttle]

Well that's not a keyboard

[serene obsidian]

Games made for a controller suck with KB/mouse the vast majority of the time, unfortunately

[unkempt dome]

and most game I play are made for controller ... so I don't game much with my keyboard

[serene obsidian]

For games that support either, it really just depends on what mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm sitting in my chair and I want to sit forward and focus, and in those cases I typically play with KB/M. If I'm leaning back and playing casually or have my laptop hooked up to the TV, I usually play with an Xbox controller

[unkempt dome]

i use a ps5 controller most of the time

[serene obsidian]

I like the idea of DualSense but I read that they're very prone to early analog stick failure and it doesn't make sense for me to get one just for PC

I've been using a Series S/X controller, I had another that I lost and then found but not until I bought a replacement lol

So now I have a black one and a white one

[sonic bloom]

aight ordered some

[silk cliff]

Hey, sorry if this is a dumb question I'm just trying to look into my first custom build. I'm looking for a barebones TKL kit preferably with a metal frame, any idea where I should start looking?

I've tried looking in a few places like Idobao and keycult but they don't appear to have anything in stock. I'd also prefer to order my own switches and I have my own GMK keycaps

[onyx summit]

How do I yeetus my stabs?

[glossy mica]

Most stuff is gonna be from groupbuys or from extras from those groupbuys

I would honestly recommend scouring the mechmarket discord for some used or even new boards

[glossy mica]

What’s a yetis

[urban panther]

I always say to checkout Keychron
Q3 and Q3 pro are all metal
V3 is inexpensive, relatively, and good quality, but plastic

[silk cliff]

Does Keychron sell DIY kits?

[urban panther]

everything comes pre-assembled

[silk cliff]

yeah i wanted to try something I could assemble myself, or at least with my own switches / keycaps

[urban panther]

they have barebones kits

plus their boards provide the tools required to take it apart and mod it

[silk cliff]

oh that might work then! Thank you

[urban panther]

https://keychron.com/

[smoky comet]

Wooting all day

Fastest keyboard and by far best firmware

Indestructable analog switch + heavily customizable

mine

i assume price is only going to go up once it becomes more readily avilable

[arctic shuttle]

It won't, because proprietary switches never make a high resale value

Plus not VIA/QMK compatible

[junior condor]

Is it possible to mod a non hot swappable keyboard and if so how

[glossy mica]

What do you mean by mod

[boreal rivet]

That’s not how mass production works !!!

[amber gyro]

Best way to wall mount keyboards?!

[vivid eagle]

Wanted to share the keyboard and mouse set up. Going for the retro theme.

[junior condor]

Like the base of the keyboard what if I put like that squishy foam in it

[proven lake]

ima coop the wooting keyboard

[shrewd idol]

so i recentkly got a keychron v4 and was wondering if i can change the backlight color ?

uh i can only change the mode of the light but can't really choose one

[viscid tapir]

looks neat you also need ibm crt monitor

[viscid tapir]

you can put it on the bottom but does not make a big difference

[pseudo owl]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804329062994.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.17.53226c40JREs2r&algo_pvid=ea74e64f-9809-41c6-926a-1184a01212e0&algo_exp_id=ea74e64f-9809-41c6-926a-1184a01212e0-8&pdp_npi=3%40dis!USD!12.88!9.66!!!!!%402102188b16845843886693035d073f!12000029438726038!sea!US!0&curPageLogUid=SCTTuKoO2A2b @viscid tapir I noticed you wanted some light springs, these go all the way down to 30g

[arctic shuttle]

https://thockpop.com/product/longboi-springs/
Good ol thock pop

[pseudo owl]

Dang son

I probably want to try 70-100g linears

[viscid tapir]

nice thx i wonder how they would feel i recently bought 50g bottom out long springs i was thinking of going 45g but idk if they would have return issues so i rather got a bit more

[viscid tapir]

80g feels decent but causes so much fatigue for long typing sessions

it is so hard to find right springs since there are so many options

kailh manufacturer told me they can sell me a variety pack while tx did this but they said they stopped selling them

i guess light double or long springs would be sick

so it would balance the top and bottom

[icy creek]

Keychron K10 with the drop MT3 DG dasher keycaps. Quite a pleasant look on my opinion but I may be bias saying I have the terminal which the caps are based on

[cunning anvil]

whoa 100

[viscid tapir]

nice but do you have space for mouse

[arctic shuttle]

Very blue I like it

[viscid tapir]

i kept bumping my mouse into mine

[icy creek]

I’ve got loads of space

[icy creek]

You should see the terminal which these caps are based on

[pseudo owl]

Love it man

[viscid tapir]

anyone tested kbdfans cement keycaps

wondering how they are

[chrome raft]

hello i need some help with my keyboard, would somebody mind helping me?

my keyboard isn’t working and inputting into my laptop, it works to change settings on my rgb if i press on the key to do so but won’t let me type a letter into my pc

i really could use some help as i don’t know if it’s repair needed as some things are working

[arctic shuttle]

Check drivers, check USB port, check if it has a Windows/MAC input and change accordingly

If it's via/QMK compatible, reflash with appropriate firmware or just initialize it

[chrome raft]

It’s on laptop

Which usb port do i check

[arctic shuttle]

Just change USB ports

See if it works

[chrome raft]

Ok

Nothing on usb ports

I checked drivers to

Would u mind doing a call to help me out?

If ur able to

[arctic shuttle]

Unable what's the keyboard

[chrome raft]

It’s on a lenovo legion 5

2021 version

[arctic shuttle]

It's the laptop keyboard?

[chrome raft]

Yes

[cunning anvil]

i think i like extended thumbkeys

ortho is awkward

glad i didnt make that 10x4 bar

wouldve been cute tho

[arctic shuttle]

You may have a connection issue tbh not sure

[arctic shuttle]

What do you mean extended

Like, 7u & 10u

[balmy hazel]

I'm looking for an 80% keyboard (for work & gaming) that has very quiet switches from out of the box in the <$120 price range, any recommendations?

[magic wolf]

Uhhh, Apple magic is pretty quiet 🦗

[balmy hazel]

Thanks, that's too low profile though--was looking for normal profile. I saw Cherry MX Red keyboard, but even that might be slightly too loud

[unkempt dome]

Get something with silent red i guess

[arctic shuttle]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-silent-k-pro-switch

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40256628392025

Try it normally assembled, with red switches. If it is still too loud, pop the switches out and swap them for the K Pro Silents

Fun Fact: an 80% is just a TKL

[simple flax]

hi

Good or bad

sounds good trust me on that hahahahahahah

[lilac relic]

very good. Red and Black is the way

[grizzled quiver]

Looks decent

[serene obsidian]

Keychron optical red switches are very quiet unless you're really banging on them. I think they're actually quieter than the scissor switches on my laptop

[grizzled quiver]

A but tacky to me lol, I prefer a clean slate looking keyboard.

[serene obsidian]

I used to like RGB, and I still do like being able to choose my backlight color, but I mostly prefer static color backlighting.

[grizzled quiver]

I see

[unkempt dome]

I disable all rgb on keyboard and mouse.
My only rgb is on my case and front case fans which I set to a static color using the hardware controls on the case and that's it.

I don't use rgb much cause I never seem to be able to set it properly and don't want to bother with it anyway

And also less software bloat in the pc

[urban panther]

lol i always set keyboard rgb to a static single color

[unkempt dome]

i used to do that ... but not anymore

[urban panther]

i...need it

at least when I have the lights off

[unkempt dome]

I have a monitor back light and my keycaps are not shine through ...

and my switches don't let much light through anyway

[warped fjord]

For anyone that has the wooting 60HE can is there a noticeable difference in responsiveness compared to other mechanical keyboards?

[warped lion]

tbh from what i have heard it is super ove rhyped

[warped fjord]

That’s what I figured

[warped fjord]

I’ve only used the Durgod Taurus k320. I recently found out through Rtings review that my keyboard has high input delay. Just wanted to try another keyboard out with less

[pearl burrow]

Can i ask how much that keyboard cost you? Looks very good

WTF

i thought it was like $500

Wow, and what switches did you use?

[pseudo owl]

Oh hey jingle

[viscid tapir]

got new lube from keygem trying to lube ktt kang white switches

still scratchy despite putting a ton on rails and legs

[glossy mica]

New keyboard fo today

[arctic shuttle]

Southpaw

Wait a second

[glossy mica]

Not really lol

[arctic shuttle]

Your f-keys are one the left

Not a real southpaw layout but close

[glossy mica]

It’s a 65 xt

[arctic shuttle]

I dig it

What's she sound like

[glossy mica]

Amazing

[arctic shuttle]

Don't be rude, drop the sound test

[glossy mica]

I like high pitched so people here might not like it but yeah

Don’t have one lol

[arctic shuttle]

Clack is fire honestly

That's how I build my boards

That's how jingle does his too

[glossy mica]

Yep

[arctic shuttle]

There's a saying about clack v. thock that will piss some people off here

[glossy mica]

Here’s a pic of the bottom

[arctic shuttle]

Ooooo, that copper?

[glossy mica]

Yep yep

Middle piece is part of the stainless steel through weight

Can kinda see it through the plate in this pic

[arctic shuttle]

So it's a copper bottom plate and a SS through weight

Copper just kinda there for looks and a little weight

[glossy mica]

basically

[arctic shuttle]

I'm a sucker for some nice copper

Not patina though

Never saw a good patina on a keyboard

[glossy mica]

lol yeah Im not a fan either

[arctic shuttle]

Hold on a sec

Like this, looks atrocious

It's like a paint splatter hydrodip but a permanent reminder of sillyness

[warped lion]

the 60he has switches that when you press it you dont have to press fully to have a butten press and that you can release like 1mm for it to reset

[warped lion]

.

[arctic shuttle]

Hall effect switches

[viscid tapir]

does kailh housing really not benefit from lubing

was told by a person that this is why kailh switch is not any smoother after lubing

[stable ibex]

the pain of wanting to buy custom keyboard parts outside of the US is real

my only 2 options are keychron and aliexpress because other sites will charge me 80 dollars to ship 20 bucks worth of switches

at least keychron has pretty cheap and fast shipping compared to the rest it only cost like 15 bucks and 9 days to ship my v1 from dongguan to poland

[magic wolf]

More like outside of China

[stable ibex]

true

but at least most companies ship to the US for pretty cheap

i'm fucked in poland

hyte doesn't even ship here so if i ever want a y60 i'd have to pay like 50 bucks extra to buy it from a third party seller

most things are 3rd party only

especially when it comes to keyboards and pcs

[eager lake]

Where do i get it?

https://boardsource.imgix.net/8f70f015-002e-485f-b342-b8e29a26924f.jpg?auto=format&ixlib=react-9.2.0&q=80&w=500&dpr=3

The pcb is out of stock

[grizzled quiver]

ltt made a keeb video!!??

[pseudo owl]

Mhm

Hey ducky

[mighty river]

that's just a relaxed type, vs the like 80 i get trying hard on my old membrane keyboard

[simple flax]

What’s the best barebones kit to get if I’m tryna make the loudest keyboard

[mighty river]

i put a singular razer green switch in my keyboard on the space bar

Listen to that perfect space bar switch

Yes my desk is a mess lmao

And my pc doesn't have a shell

[glossy mica]

Wdym loudest

[simple flax]

Loudest

[glossy mica]

Well the class 60 is coming out in groupbuy soon and has a buzzer and a solenoid

https://youtu.be/UhF2cxfwxVI

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120039.0

@simple flax

[simple flax]

It’s so expensive

[glossy mica]

Welp you asked lol

[simple flax]

Im just looking for echoey

And hollow

[glossy mica]

$250 pretty good for what you getting

[simple flax]

I bought some switches that u swap and make frankenswitches out of them

And I wanna put em In a really hollow keeb to make it just horribly loud and pingy cus why not

[glossy mica]

What’s your budget

[simple flax]

Prolly like 200

[glossy mica]

Get a vortex board or smth

[simple flax]

Vortex?

[glossy mica]

Idk why you’d waste your money like that tho when you can just get a decent board for $50 more and you can make it loud on demand

[simple flax]

Bc I’m making blue bombs

And want evryone in my office to suffer

[glossy mica]

The buzzer will make them suffer more lol

[chrome raft]

hello, it's my first time using kbd fan, and I wanted to know where I am supposed to see what I am actually getting if I buy the keyboard, cause I want to buy that thing / https://kbdfans.com/collections/all/products/weekin-y-40-solderable-diy-kit / because looks pretty, but I did not find anywhere something that says me what's in the box (also I know it's currently out of stock)

[glossy mica]

Have you listened to it

[simple flax]

Want natural sound tho

[glossy mica]

It’s not available

[chrome raft]

I said it, and I'm ok to wait, but idk what I will get in the box

[simple flax]

What are vortex keyboard

[glossy mica]

Google

[glossy mica]

It says there’s a tutorial for it

[chrome raft]

I did not see it, i'm gonna watch it

[glossy mica]

I would assume it comes with all the parts on that doc

[chrome raft]

is there a way I can just pay somebody at kbd fan to do it for me, cause it looks a bit too complex for my limited brain capacity

[glossy mica]

Lmoa

They usually have an assembly service afaik

[chrome raft]

I believe it's only for their tofu keybaord

[glossy mica]

Nah it’s for all I think

[simple flax]

Uh

[glossy mica]

It was an option when I got my kbd8x mkii

[chrome raft]

how am I supposed to solder that

[glossy mica]

Skills

[arctic shuttle]

Heat gun

Flux

Solser

[chrome raft]

is it an option when you buy it ? or how do you do it ?

[glossy mica]

Yeah normally it’s on the product page

[chrome raft]

let's say (not that it is actually the case of course) I don't have that ?

[arctic shuttle]

My Mercutio came completely disassembled, you had to solder on all the components. I hope you are ready to have 8+hrs ready to solder

[glossy mica]

Lol yeah through hole boards are a pita

I haven’t touched them

[chrome raft]

I just don't have a heat gun or flux

or solser, whatever that thing is

[arctic shuttle]

I'll be honest, the board isnt gonna be for you then. 95% of people that purchase the boards like that are looking to solder the board themself

Kinda why they are created

[chrome raft]

it is simple to solder with the holes, but I never solder micro chips

[arctic shuttle]

Everything is holes

[chrome raft]

i'm ok to solder, I just never solder micro chips

[glossy mica]

Yeah just takes way too much time

I’ll stick to assembled pcb boards lol

[chrome raft]

ok, I think I would make them build it for me

[arctic shuttle]

With a build service included, you might as well search up a better board

[chrome raft]

also, is that layout with the odd space bare common ? cause I did not see anywere on the tutorial something about the keycaps

[arctic shuttle]

It's a split spacebar, common on 40's and some 60's

[glossy mica]

It’s not common but a lot of in stock sets have it

All Novelkeys and Cannonkeys pbt sets have split bars

[arctic shuttle]

Typically, keycap sets under $100 will have them either included, or people will use shift keys in place

[chrome raft]

i'm not really an enthusiat, I just find it pretty, I don't really know the different keyboard crap

[glossy mica]

Lol

There’s a lot to it

[arctic shuttle]

You are looking at an enthusiast level keyboard

[chrome raft]

100$ for keycaps, my current keyboard is worth 100$

[arctic shuttle]

Under $100, such as nPBT, Cannon caps,

[chrome raft]

I don't care, it looks nice, its the primary metrics i'm worried about

[glossy mica]

The sets I mentioned range from $50 to $100

[chrome raft]

oh, under, I comprained over

[arctic shuttle]

Ya unless you understand plastic quality and looking for the top line of keycaps, sticking under $100 is where you're gonna be

[glossy mica]

If you like a more vintage aesthetic, shenpo caps are $30 on Ali

[arctic shuttle]

And under $40 on Amazon

This board is significantly easier to solder btw

[chrome raft]

yeah, but it doesn't have the same look has the other one, and I don't like ergo keyboard, I type slower on thoses

[arctic shuttle]

How about this guy then

I only have women

No botches

[chrome raft]

I still prefer the other one

[arctic shuttle]

Then you godda bite the bullet and learn to solder on those SMD's since paying someone to do it will cost about as much as a nice Monsgeek

[chrome raft]

idk how much that is

[arctic shuttle]

Over $130

[chrome raft]

crap

[arctic shuttle]

Lol jingle

[chrome raft]

exept that one, do you have suggestions for a similar keyboard that can be soldered with limited brain power ?

[arctic shuttle]

I've been looking at some of the Chinese CNC cases for the 1800 and some of them are kinda fire

[arctic shuttle]

Mechwild clunker

Just some generic no brands

[chrome raft]

do you have another one, it looks kinda odd with the half num bar

[arctic shuttle]

Check mech wild's website

[chrome raft]

ok

[chrome raft]

yeah no, I still prefer mine, I'm just gonna buy a heat gun and deal with it

[arctic shuttle]

Look up hold to solder them on

[chrome raft]

yeah, I will check out tutorials on how to solder micro chips

[glass jolt]

looking for recommendations on a 6x3 split board with 4+ on the thumb cluster. currently have the sofle choc but find i never use the num row and some of the outer thumb buttons are hard to easily access. being able to put an encoder on one of the thumb buttons under the hand would be good i feel. But I do make use of encoders as well.
Currently eying the kyria (i know it has some further in thumbs but can use an encoder there and has plenty of others) or the hillside 48 (non splayed). any other suggestions?

[chrome raft]

also, while i'm here, I have my ifixit screwdriver that died lately, is the kbd screwdriver good ? (I assume it's theirs, because I saw it in like 15 keyboard pictures on their website) that thing https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-part/products/nanch-precision-23-in-1-magnetic-screwdriver-tool-kit-set

[arctic shuttle]

Probably, I use an ifixit mako set

[chrome raft]

yeah, but mine just don't grip to the bits anymore, I have a pro tool kit that I got for free personnaly, but idk if their bits will fit in it, I tried with another screw driver and it did not fit

[arctic shuttle]

A micro screwdriver is still a micro screwdriver, I'm sure the KBD Fans one is fine

[chrome raft]

oh, it's called a micro screwdriver, I did not know, I only had screwdrivers with the bigger bits, I didn't know

[arctic shuttle]

It's called something else I'm sure, I just call it a micro screw driver

[chrome raft]

ok, I didn't know their was different sizes of bits

[arctic shuttle]

Compared to something like Milwaukee bits, they are significantly smaller

[chrome raft]

idk what milwaukee bits are but yeah probably, also, do kbd fan has an european warehouse ? I don't really want to wait a month for my keyboard + importation taxes

[arctic shuttle]

I have no idea, I don't think so

[chrome raft]

damn it, cayse like for exemple I bought a 15$ razor knife from usa, and I ended up paying 85$

sure, if you find my keyboard in the eu I will be happy with it https://kbdfans.com/collections/all/products/weekin-y-40-solderable-diy-kit

(and from a not crappy site that ain't gonna send my credit card info to a russian hacker)

are they unable to take a photo that ain't from the side ?

i'm critisizing their ability to take a photo, not you

i just went on google image to find one, and yeah, it is kinda the same, there is not the solanoid, but I don't really get why it is there anyway

[glossy sandal]

Why not just a clunker then

it’s pretty similar, aside from the half numrow

[chrome raft]

I don't really care about it, idk why it is there, also, do you know what is the material of the base ?

[arctic shuttle]

Fr4

[chrome raft]

it looks really small

[chrome raft]

?

[grizzled quiver]

Sup!

[pseudo owl]

nothin much

hbu?

[grizzled quiver]

I’m good, lol

[chrome raft]

also, what are these ?

[fading iris]

Holy shit finally

I’ve been unable to access this server for 2 Months nearly

I acidentally left and the verify button wouldn’t work

And the mods didn’t really help so I had to wait

[stone knoll]

Hey guys, looking for a keyboard to go with my first PC, something not too pricey, that works well for gaming. Any recommandation?

[glossy mica]

Anything will be fine for gaming

What’s your budget

[stone knoll]

50-100$ maybe, idk if that's reasonnable

[glossy mica]

anything Keychron

[stone knoll]

They look kinda goofy on Amazon but it seems better with the lights on, thank you! I'll look into it

[echo holly]

The material is called FR4

Very common in keyboard

[arctic shuttle]

These are extras

[glossy mica]

Lol

[simple flax]

Eee

[amber tartan]

ok courier company managed to fuck up the address despite having all the information there

now its going to a random university which is named after the street instead of the actual street

even the postal code is wrong which is the only set of numbers that fit that option

[ripe brook]

Need a recommendation for a wireless (Bluetooth or dongle) low profile kb, quieter the better and short travel ideally

Currently running the Microsoft Designer Bluetooth kb (don't kill me, it matches my desktop but isn't great for gaming) which has been great for WFH

Looked at the Keychron K3 ultra slim but still looks kinda tall
Also looked at the Yunzii YZ75 which also looks chunky

[chrome raft]

Ok, I thought it was an abbreviation I did know