peripherals

[glossy sandal]

😨

[unkempt dome]

Well I found some on lethal gaming ... shipping is shity

[cunning anvil]

what mount should i pick for something with a clicky encoder

[junior sentinel]

im happy with it stock just wondering if i can do anything later

[serene obsidian]

Personally I'd get custom keycaps, they can definitely improve the look and sometimes the sound and feel of a board

[cunning anvil]

gas gas gas

[glossy sandal]

what’s up

[cunning anvil]

katana 100

also what mount you think would be stable for a board with clicky encoder

[glossy sandal]

gasket

[cunning anvil]

is that one complicated

sounds like it involves

sealant

[glossy sandal]

sealant?

[cunning anvil]

okay just looked it up, is there a plate type hole that supports the encoder? worried about clicking the encoder and the plate just dies or something

or pcb

might just stuff a buncha foam under the encoder slot or something

[median slate]

Lubing switches with WD40

Or cooking oil

Or coconut oil

[unkempt dome]

no to all that

[pseudo owl]

Lmfao

[unkempt dome]

@boreal rivet
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005497072554.html?

Does those seems legit ?
Do you know what are the differences between white dots and yellow dots besides the rated click numbers?

[cunning anvil]

trying to think whats missing on my katanalike 40 before i get it made

[cunning anvil]

updated holes, i wonder if that bottom row is gonna flex that badly

also top row ig

[boreal rivet]

Seems legit but the storefront is fairly new. I wasn’t even aware they made a yellow dot version though, usually with huano different dots means different feel along with different durability ratings

[unkempt dome]

ok thanx for the info

[glossy sandal]

loh

i made stoneheadge

idk how you spell it

[boreal rivet]

stonehenge

[glossy sandal]

the wawa

oh mx can you answer something for me

is the one on the right grey or black

[boreal rivet]

Grey

Looks kinda like gunmetal

[glossy sandal]

WHAT

two people have said it's black

arguing with @-Astro-#7162 over this

what did he leave

[boreal rivet]

It’s not black if a little bit of light shining on it makes it grey bruh

[glossy sandal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/838619448164352010/1041054386517970974/caption-2-2.gif

[boreal rivet]

You know what I mean right

[gloomy patrol]

real

[glossy sandal]

i hate you so much astro

[cunning anvil]

if it's not invisible it's not black

[glossy sandal]

ah hell nah

[serene obsidian]

So I got a keyboard with low profile GTMX switches and it's actually pretty nice, some people online were saying that some of the switches had an inconsistent feel but I must have gotten a good unit because it feels damn near perfect to me, or about as perfect as you can get for $60

[glossy sandal]

not you too loh come o\ne man

[serene obsidian]

*$50

[cunning anvil]

I'm just cheesing

[glossy sandal]

tried using discord sticker got deleted

rip

[glossy sandal]

I think i need to learn color theory

i swear it's blac

black

[cunning anvil]

if it doesn't absorb all known wavelengths is it really black

[glossy sandal]

grrr

[boreal rivet]

I don’t know jack about color theory lol

[glossy sandal]

yeah i wasn't assuming you did i need to learn though

[boreal rivet]

But such a small amount of light on black ano shouldn’t make it look like grey

[glossy sandal]

does it atleast look nice, i had to readjust the bottom boards a ton so they weren't floating nor clipping into top one

[cunning anvil]

vantablacks the only thing that comes close to true black

everything else is grey

[glossy sandal]

crazy hating

[boreal rivet]

The lighting is kinda scuffed and the top board looks really off

[glossy sandal]

i liked this oe

one

cutesy

still need to work on roughness for plates

[cunning anvil]

peenk

[glossy sandal]

PINK!!

[gloomy patrol]

pretty

[glossy sandal]

this one was also cute, but off center

[dusty aurora]

is it worth getting WS aurora stabs or WS stabs v3 (tpu)

[marble dock]

hey i'm thinking of getting some replacement switches for my keyboard since its really sensitive, and i accidentally click a lot of the wrong buttons, any suggestions?

[amber tartan]

pick something with 60+g springs

[exotic wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-meme-shitpost-gif-25694140

[urban panther]

Rip

I lost a switch spring

[unkempt dome]

Sad day it is

[last iron]

the

[cosmic umbra]

Im trying to decide between the logitech G pro blue tacktile and Hyper X Aqua switches any preferences?

[median slate]

If I lube Novel creams oob will they be smooth or scratchy?

[chilly carbon]

Does anyone know of a mechanical keyboard with a white backlight (or an RGB that can be set to white) that is not super loud

[night cedar]

Hey anybody know where I can get OUTEMU Blue Switch 3-Pin Key Switches?

I need 110

[chrome raft]

I need a keyboard reco

Looking for a %60

And under $140 caf

Cad

[urban panther]

Keychron V4/Q4

[cunning anvil]

i honestly dont see whats so hype about older thinkpad keyboards compared to newer

[glass jolt]

man getting used to colemak is ... interesting. after a couple days on keybr its interesting how it feels to hit 20wpm with just learning the 1st 6 characters. trying to type a full sentence i feel like a slug trying to type.

[untold orchid]

Theyre the peak of laptop keyboards

[cunning anvil]

and i don't get why

[untold orchid]

I do, they're the reason why I keep using a thinkpad over other models for my laptops

they just feel great

[cunning anvil]

cool

[proud ember]

Can I ask here advice about Controller?

[glossy sandal]

they don’t make ‘em like they used to or something

[cunning anvil]

gas im board

what else ought i do before i send the katanalike 40 to jlc

[glossy sandal]

I’ve just been doing shit in fusion

[glossy sandal]

design case

[cunning anvil]

nah i wanna make sure i dont hate the layout first

[glossy sandal]

make it tkl

tbh you won’t know you hate until it’s made

[cunning anvil]

yeah i just wonder if theres anything to do with it first

[glossy sandal]

what’s the most recent revision

[cunning anvil]

mostly hole placement

[glossy sandal]

how tall is it

why not make it gh60 compat

[cunning anvil]

tall?

because its a splittable

[glossy sandal]

darn it

[cunning anvil]

i might make a qaz or van compatible board eventually

but rn im focusing on layout

[glossy sandal]

hmm

show me

[cunning anvil]

qaz, van, or doug/katanalike40

[glossy sandal]

DOUG

silly name

[cunning anvil]

I already told you it was doug :/

https://p3dstore.com/products/minisub-invisibolt

minivan form factor

qaz is 10.75u

wont fit doug, but i might try it for something else

[chrome ocean]

How do you use an analog keyboard for tac fps games? Set wasd to low actuation distance and immediately stop when rebounce is detected?

[rose glen]

basically yea

[chrome ocean]

So it basically just eliminates pre travel? I thought pros use them differently

[rose glen]

well

kinda? like for me im not good enough to need that instant reaction time on my keyboard

if you need super light and short actuation you can save some money by going with speed switches from whatever brand you like

but you dont get the instant rebound that you can get with analog

but ima keep it real with you man, unless you are a top 1% of the top 1% of FPS gamers you wont really notice the difference between a linear and a speed type switch activation other than weight

[marsh scarab]

Okay so I had a dumb thought

What if I 'lube' my keyboard with Singer machine oil

[rose glen]

uhhh

[marsh scarab]

(I just add it directly on the stem)

[rose glen]

is that a liquid lube?

[marsh scarab]

I mean yeah, it's meant for sewing machines

[rose glen]

then id advise staying away from that

[marsh scarab]

Ohh

Why-

Is it because of rust

[rose glen]

two reasons:

1. it may not stick to the parts of the switch very well, meaning it will drip down and out of the switch over time
2. if you are not 100% sure its not electrically conductive you can potentially cause shorting of the board, or cause weird issues with the switches behavior when typing, things like sustained key presses, ghost presses, undetected presses, things like that

plus the sound of lubed switches when you use something like krytox 205g0 is amazing

[marsh scarab]

Ohh I see I see

[rose glen]

its tedious to brush it on each switch, but trust me, its VERY much worth it

[marsh scarab]

Well thankfully I did it on a cheap mechanical keyboard

Unfortunately it's the only keyboard I have

[rose glen]

you can build a pretty cheap mechanical keyboard, or find one from a company like reddragon i think it is and toy around with that sorta stuff

[marsh scarab]

I have problems with it.

Particular the part where I have to Sprint in Minecraft with double press on the w but it keeps putting me in and out of sprint so I just get this weird wobble effect on my fov

[cunning anvil]

me about to make a case for pro micro fp keyboards without being ludicrously tall

[marsh scarab]

It wasn't even a named brand keyboard.

It's like a 15 dollar mechanical hot swap keyboard

[rose glen]

what layout do you use?

[marsh scarab]

Wired, the RGB is static and it feels mostly cheap

[marsh scarab]

Uhhhhh what's the one with the numbpad chopped on

[rose glen]

you still have the arrow keys and the various like page up page down keys?

[marsh scarab]

Yea

[rose glen]

ok so you have a TKL layout

[marsh scarab]

Ohh yeah the one with 6 buttons on top of the arrow keys

[rose glen]

https://redragonshop.com/products/redragon-kumara-k552
this is normally 43 USD but its on sale for 38 USD rn

[marsh scarab]

Oh I am just probably gonna get a royal kludge keyboard

[rose glen]

oh yea, they are another good one

[marsh scarab]

I want wireless because I am lazy and don't wanna reach out to my desk

[rose glen]

although i do always recommend building your own board, its so satisfying and so worth the time and effort it takes to build them

[marsh scarab]

My chair is slowly breaking and getting a new one is expensive

[rose glen]

but it can be very expensive

[marsh scarab]

Yeah I've heard.

But I at least have a physical option to

Theres this 'hobby' store where there's a section full of keyboard stuff.

And they sell packets of switches between 2-6 dollars per 10 switches

[rose glen]

bruh

honestly, if you want to get into building keyboards youtube is your best friend

there are tons of good channels dedicated to keyboards, tons of information out there

[marsh scarab]

Literally idk what all this means

[rose glen]

and you said thats a local hobby store?

im jealous

[marsh scarab]

Well it's not exclusively a keyboard store

[rose glen]

i know but still

[marsh scarab]

It's like.. a multi hobby store.

Imagine like your school lockers right

But each locker has a different hobby and stuff inside them and they are all for sale

That's what this store is. And I was looking at the keyboard locker

[cunning anvil]

@glossy sandal have you made a case for something with a pro micro in it?

/elite-c/etc

[marsh scarab]

They got lube as well

[rose glen]

i mean, all those switches are good options, personally id go with the gateron milky yellows or the MX blacks

but there are hundreds of switches out there

[marsh scarab]

Yeah and pretty inaccessible for me because I live in Asia

That's why I don't wanna try a group buy.

[boreal rivet]

ag?

sg?

[marsh scarab]

Because there's nothing equivalent to it here

Uhhh let's say SEA

[boreal rivet]

meh whatever

just buy from taobao

[marsh scarab]

Wtf is taobao

[rose glen]

group buys are only for the really dedicated keyboard nuts out there, they are expensive and you wait months or years to get your items

[boreal rivet]

most keyboard shit infinitely cheaper there thanks to chinese™️ price

[glossy sandal]

No

I was answering you

because you asked which one I wanted to see

[cunning anvil]

ohh

current design

(ignore the lack of cropping plss)

[rose glen]

bro your making a PCB for a keyboard?

👀

[cunning anvil]

ive been making em lol

[rose glen]

i might have an idea for you

[cunning anvil]

check it

[rose glen]

iv been trying to make a keyboard that looks like an old IBM model M, but iv found nothing out there, how hard would it be to make a PCB for an old model M case, or a reproduction of one

[glossy sandal]

https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/NEW_M

[rose glen]

yea but i want like, modern switches, thats the buckle spring style

[gloomy patrol]

Votex has some nice vint looking shit

[glossy sandal]

Wack

https://vortexgear.store/products/vortex-model-m-ssk-kit

[cunning anvil]

whatchu like about the model m? looks kinda bowed

[gloomy patrol]

Gas you shud hop in my dms

[glossy sandal]

and do what

[rose glen]

idk, i just like that retro look of it

[gloomy patrol]

Idrk

You j shud

[glossy sandal]

[gloomy patrol]

[marsh scarab]

Do not rp in the ltt keyboard channel

[gloomy patrol]

Why do none of the keeb servers let me rp

[cunning anvil]

gas dyt its a bad idea to make a case for a pro micro style keyb

where the pm is exposed

[glossy sandal]

No

[cunning anvil]

bc apparently it adds a lotta height

[glossy sandal]

I think there’s a fair bit of those

[cunning anvil]

oo link?

[marsh scarab]

Has there been mechanical keyboard that's as thin as a laptop one

[glossy sandal]

https://nullbits.co/nibble/

[gloomy patrol]

Don’t all the sandwich fr4 kits expose the pm or am I tripping

[gloomy patrol]

There are low profile keebs

[glossy sandal]

Pretty sure mechwild does that too

[gloomy patrol]

Sugarglider with chocs is kinda thin

Unless you want to fat shame it

[marsh scarab]

Because tbh the only thing I miss about the shitty office keyboards are how thin they are

[rose glen]

they make low profile mechanical switches

[cunning anvil]

wait

wheres the flex

is that a no flex board

[glossy sandal]

wdym

[gloomy patrol]

They shouldn’t flex much?

Or at all iirc

[cunning anvil]

thats what i thought but

idk

[marsh scarab]

Okay now another question. Is there a really silent switch for a keyboard

[gloomy patrol]

Yea no I feel like the acrylic layer would I hit any pcb movement

[marsh scarab]

Like real quiet.

I know the appeal of mechanical is the sound and feel but like they are sometimes very loud

[rose glen]

yes, there are silent switches out there that have a little rubber piece in the switch that prevents it from making much bottom out noise

[glossy sandal]

I just want a keyboard that’s pink man

[gloomy patrol]

Get a pink Jane

It’s p cheap

[glossy sandal]

couple dollas

[gloomy patrol]

Wait no

[marsh scarab]

Spray paint the Dell office keyboard and you are in the clear

[gloomy patrol]

Pink 456

[glossy sandal]

honestly the 910 valentines was awesome

[cunning anvil]

gas i have a rose gold case for technikable >:D

[gloomy patrol]

That shit was hot as fuck

I want a pink 456

[glossy sandal]

a what?

[glossy sandal]

I like pink 910

The blush pink valentines one

even though it’s me

[cunning anvil]

my typing board

oh wait

[marsh scarab]

Rose gold is like a pink but more on the silver and yellow side of the spectrum

[cunning anvil]

40 ortho nvm

[gloomy patrol]

😩😩

[glossy sandal]

otd never failed

it’s so tall

[gloomy patrol]

Lmfao

[rose glen]

honestly rose gold>pink any day

[gloomy patrol]

Even bro appreciate valentines

[gloomy patrol]

Mid take

[marsh scarab]

Where are the smooth key caps

[glossy sandal]

Monokei Edition

idiot

[gloomy patrol]

Ik that mf

[glossy sandal]

oh

[gloomy patrol]

We both know you don’t have ce money

[cunning anvil]

gas i was about to ask advice about pro micro placement but then i remembered

40s

[glossy sandal]

uhh

dude I’ve been so in love with rendering this board

send me a picture of the layout

I think I remember but how large is a pro micro, 2u?

[gloomy patrol]

That’s lwk hot

[cunning anvil]

damb i lost my old kles

brb

[glossy sandal]

I love it so

[gloomy patrol]

I’d make it my banner if it matched

[glossy sandal]

girlie is sending me pictures of guns wharr

[cunning anvil]

current draft

[glossy sandal]

2u is pro micro?

[cunning anvil]

ye

tryna make a layout i can reuse

[glossy sandal]

why not make it gh60 compat?

[cunning anvil]

5row :c

[glossy sandal]

so you can get a fancy case without the hassle

gh60 is 5row doe

[cunning anvil]

is it pm compat

[glossy sandal]

oh wait Nevermind I’m stupid

[marsh scarab]

I have seen people say that they use their keyboard as their mouse.

Why not make a pcb with diagonal keys

Omni directional keyboard.

[cunning anvil]

what doews that even mean

[marsh scarab]

So people have said that they use their keyboard as their mouse instead

Okay I ran out of brain thinking juixe and I forgot my thought so ignore me

[cunning anvil]

mood

i think i can sqeeze a katana stagger 40 into an 11.75u

with that kinda pro micro placement

or should i make my case have pm on bottom left horizontal

or heck, maybe even round it to 12u

maybe i could bump it to 12.75 and let it additionally take minivan pcbs just in case

tfw slowly widening

[glossy sandal]

I’ll buy an ortho tkl if you make one

[glossy sandal]

That angle sucks for cables

[cunning anvil]

ik it does :c

[glossy sandal]

unless you have some really flexy cables it stretches the port

makes it loose

[cunning anvil]

i have right angle adapters

[glossy sandal]

those keychron k pro side usb-c ports suck

but just do it on the top

thas all I gotta say

[cunning anvil]

and i just finished sketching these

[glossy sandal]

now make it tkl

[cunning anvil]

i dunno if i can make a tkl with 4x11u

[glossy sandal]

I think I like 60% more than tkl functionally

I like how they both look equally

[cunning anvil]

putting the usb c on top

prob is with the symmetrical stagger the min width becomes 11.75

which isnt that bad

smaller than a planck

but at that point why not planck it

[glossy sandal]

This reminds me of 660 layout for whatever reason

gonna run it plateless?

[cunning anvil]

im tryna make some case form factor so i can do plates

and generally more standardized stuff between my own boards

[rose glen]

are you writing your own firmware for your keyboards as well?

[cunning anvil]

i mostly use miryoku_qmk

with tweaks

[rose glen]

nice nice

[glossy sandal]

If you’re doing plates why not do oring

pretty easy to do for plates with standoffs

[cunning anvil]

oring like on the stems?

[rose glen]

gasket mount?

[glossy sandal]

gummy oring

lemme find the files

https://github.com/kkatano/bakeneko-60

[glossy sandal]

pcb/plate assembly friction fit in case

you’d have to use dbs for your pcbs though

[cunning anvil]

dbs?

[glossy sandal]

daigher board

daughter

[cunning anvil]

hmm, but what if

db was pm

[glossy sandal]

that works

do pms do jst?

[cunning anvil]

theyre pin headers

[glossy sandal]

hmm

[cunning anvil]

but it would make the usb not on the same layer as the oring

but also sourcing an oring that size sounds annoying

[glossy sandal]

@radiant lodge can I call in that file favor

just make the pcb/plate bigga

[rose glen]

i think you can just order whatever oring material in a longer strand

[glossy sandal]

and ya can put the oring that works

[rose glen]

at least thats how most gasket mount keyboards iv seen are shipped, with a single longer strand of oring material

[cunning anvil]

idk if i actually like flex

[rose glen]

i mean

[glossy sandal]

oring is a lot less flexier than you’d expect

[rose glen]

it also depends on the specific rubber you use and the plate type

[glossy sandal]

stiffer than most silicone/poron strip implementations

[rose glen]

the super flexy keyboards you see have cutouts on the PCB that make it flex more

[glossy sandal]

also yeah oring hardness and whatnot

[rose glen]

and plate type

[cunning anvil]

yo what if i put the PM on the bottom

and made that the slant

[glossy sandal]

whar

I can’t imagine allat

[cunning anvil]

pm goes under the pcb

where theres more space

[glossy sandal]

HMM..

oh man that full picture is awesome I love that keycap set

[cunning anvil]

bc the main issue with PM board cases is height

[glossy sandal]

maybe you’d like to do top mount then?

pcb/plate screws into top case

not very flexy, pretty stiff

[cunning anvil]

sandwich looked easiest to design

[rose glen]

also keep in mind that the PCB design has a lot to do with how much flex there is

[glossy sandal]

what about integrated plate?

[cunning anvil]

would that mean itd be 3dp/milled?

[glossy sandal]

yeppers

[cunning anvil]

kinda down for stacked acryllic rn

[glossy sandal]

layers of filament/something and one of the layers are the plate

[rose glen]

stacked acrylic is pretty dope

i have a stacked acrylic board

[cunning anvil]

3dp a plate every time i make a new design tho

then again idk if 3dp is more exp than an acrylic plate

[glossy sandal]

listenin to da vocaloid

[rose glen]

do you have a CNC router or laser cutter?

[cunning anvil]

nop

[rose glen]

well shit

uhhh

[glossy sandal]

p3d has some quotes for plates of materials

pretty sure acrylic is one of them

send cut send, jlcpcb (I think?)

[cunning anvil]

ye i was gonna go ponoko for case and p3d for plate

[glossy sandal]

ponoko?

[rose quarry]

I spilled coffee on my keyboard. I hate mosquito... idiot went for my ear when I was drinking coffee -_-

[cunning anvil]

for acrylic cutting

[glossy sandal]

ah

frosted acrylic is awesome

frosted pc ❤️

[cunning anvil]

i wonder how much itd be to get a bulletproof bottom plate

in theory

[glossy sandal]

couple dollas

[rose glen]

i mean, you could make the board out of AR500 plate steel

ez

[amber tartan]

so like uhmwpe?

[glossy sandal]

uhmwpe is bulletproof??

[amber tartan]

yes

[glossy sandal]

meme materials are getting out of hand

[radiant lodge]

what

[rose quarry]

You gonna use that as a shield or something?

[rose glen]

yes

[glossy sandal]

Hi I had an intrusive thought

[rose glen]

🙂

[glossy sandal]

is your phone fixed now

[cunning anvil]

i work at walmart

i worry

[radiant lodge]

yes

and i got my sim card

[glossy sandal]

Uhmwpe pretty cheap

get a block of it and get it cut

[radiant lodge]

i was gonna ask for the number of the girl working there bc she was really pretty

[cunning anvil]

tru

[radiant lodge]

and she wasnt there

[glossy sandal]

break your phone again

[radiant lodge]

real

[cunning anvil]

frfr i think i might just do the side usb and just buy more right angle adapters

i dont wanna go over 11u

[glossy sandal]

girlie you should make loh a case

it’d be pretty funny

[rose glen]

or go really nutty and build in an aviator connector right into the board 🙂

[radiant lodge]

im not standing here giving slots away smh

[glossy sandal]

Can I use mine

I don’t got any ideas

[radiant lodge]

no

im busy

typebox now

[glossy sandal]

Typebox looks ugly as hell!!!

[radiant lodge]

not mine

[glossy sandal]

you made it bruh

[cunning anvil]

that is a small cat

[glossy sandal]

What’s the other one with the badge under nav

[radiant lodge]

he gave me the render files

[glossy sandal]

love tkl?

[radiant lodge]

no clue

the blue one?

no name

[glossy sandal]

wdym no clue

insanity

[cunning anvil]

gas any other issues with this besides the awk usb port

[glossy sandal]

did you wanna watch the uhhh

[radiant lodge]

later today right

[glossy sandal]

wait which one are you doing

[radiant lodge]

i need to head off to central

[glossy sandal]

In like

12 hours

[cunning anvil]

its the case i wanna make rn

[radiant lodge]

5am???????

[cunning anvil]

so it just needs to be standardish

[glossy sandal]

wait

lemme calculate

[radiant lodge]

is it super complicated?

[glossy sandal]

goddamn math has never been this hard

[radiant lodge]

i have an hour free rn if ur design is simple and yk exactly what you want u can use gas' slot

[glossy sandal]

hour worth of design for my slot 😭

yeah idm

[cunning anvil]

its a stacked acrylic 4x11u case i wanted to have fit my prototypes bc standoffed pcbs look sad

[glossy sandal]

dude I literally can’t count

[cunning anvil]

also its fine i got fusion working

i wanna do it myself rn

bc idk what i want exactly yet

[radiant lodge]

stack acrylic is not halal mode

[glossy sandal]

fusion lessons with girlie

I would take a the pride course with girlie

[radiant lodge]

a what

[cunning anvil]

is halal good or bad

[glossy sandal]

omg you haven’t been paying attention to the show

[radiant lodge]

OIH THE MATH

[glossy sandal]

halal is good

haram is bad

[radiant lodge]

PRIDE MAKETH MATH

[glossy sandal]

The Pride is the name of the academy

[radiant lodge]

yes yes i know

[glossy sandal]

idiot stupid rubbish

[cunning anvil]

i wonder if tray mount would make it easier or harder to proto

[glossy sandal]

less parts in tray no?

just a case standoffs and screws

[radiant lodge]

its easier in terms of design

[glossy sandal]

instead of layers of stacked acrylic

[cunning anvil]

would i need stacks for the walls?

[glossy sandal]

hey loh what far would 5pm be if it’s 9am now

[radiant lodge]

8 houtsd

[glossy sandal]

I’ve been thinking about this for the last 4 minutes

[glossy sandal]

I was right the first time

goddamn it

[radiant lodge]

smart

maybe we should go to pride academy

[glossy sandal]

wait Nevermind I said 12 hours

[cunning anvil]

tho tray would limit where parts can go

[glossy sandal]

loh teaches a course in pcb design

I’d attend tha class

[radiant lodge]

wait are they a pcb designer

[cunning anvil]

no i just shit pcbs

they arent that good

[glossy sandal]

[radiant lodge]

i need a pcb for the nrl since my original guy just didnt do anything

[cunning anvil]

rugby and badminton

[glossy sandal]

the what

the Cadillac???

[cunning anvil]

the national rugby league

[glossy sandal]

Any annual badminton championship fans

[radiant lodge]

no no the camo thingy i showed you the other day

copper bottom

[glossy sandal]

the dazzle bord?

[radiant lodge]

yes sir

[glossy sandal]

no way you’re actually planning to make that

it’s so expensive

atleast make the bottom like alu

[radiant lodge]

[cunning anvil]

(also my skill ends at pro micro based boards, did not pay attention to integrated mcu part of the guide i learned from

[radiant lodge]

nah i got schmoners its alright

[glossy sandal]

I need to learn pcbs so I can make a g80 board

in dire need of a nicety alu g80

tbh it’ll probably sound like shit

[cunning anvil]

current plan

or should i put some wall around the pm

hmm

[radiant lodge]

what the

[cunning anvil]

shh

still drafting

[radiant lodge]

LMAO

[cunning anvil]

currently thinking of making it like this or someshit

im not using gas's slot btw

i wanna do it myslef

[radiant lodge]

oh yea no worries

[cunning anvil]

where tf did i put my pen nibs

[solemn badge]

Can anyone help me with this Sony keyboard?

I try to push the Shift key, but no effect.

[robust hemlock]

looks like a membrane, so likely the PCB at the bottom is dirty or corroded and doesn't register

would need to take apart the keyboard completely to try to fix that

[glossy sandal]

Lma

o

[cunning anvil]

idk how tall a pro micro is lol

[glossy sandal]

don’t you have one?

or aren’t there 3d scans of em

[rose glen]

id assume its the height of the USB port plus a little extra

unless you need like exact measurements

[cunning anvil]

how tall itd be after its mounted on my pcb, plus theres variance because different mounted styles for different boards

[glossy sandal]

could’ve sworn there’s a cad file for pms

[rose glen]

i found a cad file of the pro micro i think?

[chrome ocean]

I've only found wooting and Razer huntsman v2 are analog keyboards, are there more from other brands?

[glossy sandal]

Steelseries (I think?)

[rose glen]

yes steelseries has one

[glossy sandal]

Hephboard, uhh..

[rose glen]

i dont remember what its called

[glossy sandal]

some other stuff I forgot what

hephboard had the hera-h1

I have no idea where it is now

[rose glen]

analog boards are not very popular because most people dont wanna pay the price to get one lol

[glossy sandal]

?

MX is just easy to make money off of, there’s no wide implementations not nor really need for analog switches so they aren’t popular

[serene obsidian]

I remember getting my first "gaming" keyboard

It was a Corsair K55 (membrane board) and I thought I was hot shit at the time

I don't even know why they still make it, you can literally do better for cheaper

Probably because there are dumbasses like I was when I got it, I was like 16 and didn't know any better

Now I want backlighting for the utility but I don't care about it being RGB

It's nice but not explicitly necessary

[cunning anvil]

wondering if i even care about the splittable

it was just kinda neat when i was using splits

but i really dont care i think

might not fab the splittable katanalike

[glass jolt]

can anyone recommend some good split wrist rests for a split keeb? i have a sofle choc and my old school gel wrist wrest isnt cutting it.

[lofty reef]

I managed to spill a coffee over my Tiger80 today...

[glass jolt]

dismantle it. lean non plastic parts with 97% rubbing alcohol, plastic parts with warm water and a cloth. let dry.

check all the switches and open up any that may have got any liquid in them, re-lube as needed.

wait a bit. check all the switches for any that are sticky or stick at all, then clean those if any

[serene obsidian]

Yeah electronics are surprisingly resilient if you don't leave them powered on while wet

[glass jolt]

yea main thing is stickieness of switch parts because of sugars

[serene obsidian]

I found out at my job at a hospital that they make membrane boards that are specifically designed to be washable

I don't think that would be worth it for me but it's interesting nonetheless. If they are throwing out the old ones maybe I'll see if I can snag one but it's not worth paying for.

[proud ember]

Anyone got a good cheap wireless Controller?

Or good wireless key Board for gaming but cheap

[glossy sandal]

how cheap

[proud ember]

The cheapest as long its decent and whit a dongle included if possible

[glossy sandal]

couple dollas

prebuilt?

[proud ember]

Heck yeah i aint making my own Controller or keyboard if il cheaping out

So you got good one?

@glossy sandal

[glossy sandal]

I kinda need a max budget

[proud ember]

Uh under 70 around 40 if possible

[glossy sandal]

got it ig

[cunning anvil]

👀

[proud ember]

Uh so '

[glossy sandal]

Ah sorry I forgot

one second

[proud ember]

Lol

[proud ember]

So...? Sorry for being annoying

[glossy sandal]

What size?

[proud ember]

I got big but skinny Hand so big

[glossy sandal]

like percentage

60%? 80%?

[proud ember]

Idk i use 60 on m'y keyboard

[glossy sandal]

alright

[proud ember]

So?

[glossy sandal]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/3068s-shine-through-mechanical-keyboard/

Use code “MAYDAY” for 15% off

[dusty aurora]

whats the difference between holy pandas and holy panda X

[amber tartan]

the X is for Xtreme (tactility)

[pseudo owl]

Cool!

[sonic minnow]

Where’s the best place to buy keyboard kits from ? I’ve been looking at attempting to building my own 🙂

[rose glen]

honestly most keyboard kits are just fine, id say you should do your homework, find reviews, decide what you want as far as layout, switches, features, things like that. my personal favorite kit was the kbdcraft kit adam because its a lego board and i loved lego as a kid, but thats just me personally

[rose quarry]

Nostalgia aye? I got a hard key keyboard coz it's the first type of keyboard I used. Feels nostalgic

[rose glen]

absolutely, and it sounds pretty damn good as well

sound test of my personal one

[tiny crest]

Will be excited to see when LTT review this keyboard.

[boreal rivet]

why would they, its nothing special

not that plouffe would do a good job anyway

[fluid igloo]

why not

[pulsar folio]

probably refers to the keyboard testing machine anyway though

[boreal rivet]

their testing methodology is flawed or something iirc

[pulsar folio]

"or something iirc"

[boreal rivet]

from what I've seen and can tell so far, the main point of labs is to generate more content and not put out accurate and useful data

[pulsar folio]

from what I've seen, it's to do both

[boreal rivet]

coolz

[pulsar folio]

if you're going to undermine someone's efforts, you may as well back it up with something too

[boreal rivet]

some from private servers and others I cba sorry

[tiny crest]

It's a slimline low profile keyboard and I haven't seen one like this from Keychrom yet. To me it would be good to see how it holds up in the market compared to the others like that funky small logitech keyboard that it's mostly trying to compete with.

That's why I said above I would be interested in seeing them review this keyboard especially since there is no review for this currently on YouTube only the K8 Pro which isn't anything like this one.

This logitech keyboard I am referencing.

[boreal rivet]

that doesn't even use lowpros

and what do you mean holds up bruh, unless you're a enthusiast there is really nothing much to talk about when it comes to keyboards at this tier other than like build and software

[pulsar folio]

no worries, I just disregard any such statements, without anything to back them up 😛

[tiny crest]

Whats the point in brands competing if there was nothing but just a keyboard? I generally want to know how this "holds up" in the space that it's competing in since its something new from Keychrom.

U may disagree but I just want to see a review on this and currently there is none because it was just released.

[boreal rivet]

Understandable 🤷‍♀️

[pulsar folio]

the point is the better marketing wins, and having a product in the segment in question means they make money

[boreal rivet]

to get market share in the specific "space" and make money duh

some people will buy a product over another simply because they like one brand over the other

[boreal rivet]

also it seems you don't even know what you yourself meant by "holds up"

[cunning anvil]

choc and mx hotswap :D

[boreal rivet]

whats the point of watching a review if you don't even know what you're looking for

are you just looking for someone to tell you which one is better and that you should buy that one?

Because I can tell you without a doubt the keychron is a better product

[pulsar folio]

vouch for Keychron, they have some very nice bang for the buck keyboards

and at least for now (and hopefully the future too) do they focus on quality keyboards that are still affordable

[boreal rivet]

they will because thats their niche

[cunning anvil]

/silent @glossy sandal

how do i silence @s smh

[pulsar folio]

OnePlus had that too with their phones, but here we are

average flagship phones at the same high prices

[glossy sandal]

lamou

[boreal rivet]

keyboards will never be as big as phones and the community holds far more influence in keyboards

for better or worse

[glossy sandal]

What’s up mx!!

[pulsar folio]

certainly hope you're right!

[boreal rivet]

what up gas!! I'm doing math

[glossy sandal]

did some funny stuff yesterday

what problem are you working on

[boreal rivet]

calculus

[glossy sandal]

😨

[boreal rivet]

real

[cunning anvil]

gdi i just realized this footprint doesnt have an easy to export layer for making a plate

[boreal rivet]

unlucky

[glossy sandal]

what about keychron?

[boreal rivet]

person hoping for a video with plouffe telling them to buy the k9 pro

[glossy sandal]

confirmation bias got it

honestly kinda tired of keychron, glad it’s becoming less and less of an option

[cunning anvil]

fusion vm is bootlooping yay

[boreal rivet]

revert to snapshot 😔

[cunning anvil]

no snapshots :D

[boreal rivet]

🫂 I know that feeling

[cunning anvil]

shurg

i dont think i have the disk space for many snapshots

freecad kinda sucks

[cunning anvil]

pain

[glossy sandal]

loh’s diary of despair

[sick salmon]

im in the market for a new keyboard as mine recently broke. I'm wanting something mechanical, wired (dont wanna have to deal with bluetooth stuff), and about the size of a laptop keyboard. does anyone have any good recommendations?

[amber tartan]

dub for once

[amber tartan]

the size of a laptop keyboard is not descriptive, use this chart and pick a size

[cunning anvil]

flat

[sick salmon]

68%

[amber tartan]

something something keychron

but wired

[stable wasp]

68%/every other type

[wise niche]

ive purchased the ADX Firepower Core 23 ADXCOM223 Keyboard and mouse combo but the adx hub software does not work

[dreamy vault]

does anyone have a similar looking keyboard to this but wireless

[glossy sandal]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-k-pro-series-keyboard/products/keychron-k6-pro-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[dreamy vault]

can I get it in a similar colour

would i have to buy keycaps to do that

[cunning anvil]

uhh dont know how to constrain good, took a hot minute

[cunning anvil]

missing a line and an encoder cutout but

plate :D

should probably filet some of those sharp parts but uh

fusion laggy so this is all I'm doing rn

@glossy sandal

i am excitement

[glossy sandal]

whar

omg so much progress

[cunning anvil]

dunno how to encoder plate hole

but ill burn that bridge when i get there

[raven ivy]

F360 constraints are bad anyways dont worry about it too much

one of the many reasons I got frustrated and went to AutoCAD on an education license using my college email lol

[pseudo owl]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-dcd-banana-keycap-set/details?defaultSelectionIds=967200#details I need

[grizzled quiver]

You’re here too!!??

[glossy sandal]

hi

[grizzled quiver]

Lol, sup

[glossy sandal]

i just bee in here answering questions sometimes

and talking to loh and mx, i forgot who else

[amber tartan]

:3

[glossy sandal]

omggg how could i froegt nightpie

[cunning anvil]

hi gas

thinking how to generate the other layers of the case

[cunning anvil]

generator works really well actually

[cunning anvil]

80 bucks for a case, extra 20 to get a second layouts plate

[glossy sandal]

is that a blocker

that's hilarious, also cute

[cunning anvil]

ye

[glossy sandal]

do you have a step file for these

i kinda wanna play asround with them

[cunning anvil]

i have dxf

[glossy sandal]

that's so cheap

what're you using?

[cunning anvil]

ponoko to cut

swill to generate

[glossy sandal]

sure send me the dfx

[cunning anvil]

which lol

[glossy sandal]

all of em

the entire lot

[cunning anvil]

aight

wondering if i should also add the ortho 100 case to that

[pulsar folio]

what's wrong with them?

[sand pagoda]

Can someone recommend a cheap keyboard on here that’s decent quality with tactile switches that are a bit louder? (Someone in a different channel asking for it) https://www.startech.com.bd/

@hard notch

[hard notch]

oh okay dd not see this channel

[sand pagoda]

It’s ok, many people don’t notice it either

[hard notch]

ok i wait

@sand pagoda how good is the razor viper mini?

i like tha fact that it can integrate with genshin

[amber tartan]

are you getting it just for the integration

[hard notch]

i mean

it is a razor product so it is premium

how is it as a mouse?

is this good?

[untold orchid]

LOL

[hard notch]

i said something wrong didn't i

[untold orchid]

Viper mini is good for the super cheap price but in general razer is FAR from premium

[hard notch]

so viper mini is good but not premium

[untold orchid]

Yes

[hard notch]

ok

so the kb?

anything on that?

[untold orchid]

Razer does have one actually premium product

Viper mini se, but it costs almost 300 bucks

[hard notch]

https://www.startech.com.bd/redragon-k628-pollux-gaming-keyboard

how is this?

[untold orchid]

Cheapest mechanical board that isnt complete ass, if you mod it then its pretty aight

[hard notch]

ok

understood

so should i gor for the viper mini?

[cunning anvil]

almost 200 usd for two cases and an alternate plate

[chrome ocean]

Looking for recommendations on prebuild full size keyboard with a volume scroll wheel, budget $180 canadian dollar

[urban panther]

https://keychron.com/

Q5/Q6
V5/V6

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40320325222489

[languid rune]

How does the blackwidow ultimate 2016 hold up by today's standards?

[amber tartan]

its shit

[zenith salmon]

I'm looking at building my first keyboard after finally being sick of dealing with Razer and I'm working out what I like and don't like. Right now I'm working on narrowing down which switches I want and I'm hoping that somebody can help me track down what would be in a particular keyboard in one of the Floatplane Exclusive videos. At about 6:36 of "What's In Your PC?" (https://www.floatplane.com/post/Z77L5WAnPU) Sven shows off his new keyboard and I am in love with the sound. Does anybody have any idea as to what his build would be using because I think that is what I will want to go with is a 75% board with those switches.

[full field]

gateron blue switches

[amber tartan]

its definitely not

and also its impossible to tell so gl

[full field]

wdym

blues are

thoccy

best switches ever

[amber tartan]

right.

[full field]

stop lying to this poor man

[amber tartan]

despite its a click jacket switch

sure

[full field]

THATS ENOUGH 😠

STOP

LYING

BLUES ARE NOT CLICKY

[amber tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hood-irony-silhouette-run-gif-27396861

[full field]

https://tenor.com/view/quacky-cute-duck-sad-emotional-gif-18137321

[amber tartan]

itd probably be a little more useful to find your preference with this https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvHVImt3J50UcWtW99Fz49wt3Pot6HUx5

but just so you know soundtests are subjective and can change depending on your board

so take the sounds with grains of salt

but these are better since it actually tells you what board and switch it is

[full field]

yeah

gateron blues

[glossy sandal]

super funny

[cunning anvil]

had a nightmare my favorite bord fell apart like legos and i sold the case for like 400usd

[zenith salmon]

thanks all for the help

[glossy sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smack-slap-fuckyou-kitten-gif-11330282

[amber tartan]

i have a tech design project that involves photography

i want to take a picture with the board but idk when it will arrive :////

and deadline is like end of this month.....

[wind socket]

u

[muted karma]

sounds like foam

aka

lots of case foam + pe foam + plate foam

rest of the board basically doesn't matter, foam always sounds very similar

[muted karma]

are taeha soundtests still EQed?

not like soundtest are actually reflecting reality suuuuper well

[amber tartan]

probably

he also uses like 5 desk mats

[neat ivy]

Hey am going for a full redragon setup cuz why not was wondering what’s the best redragon 60%-65% machanical keyboard?

[modest blaze]

can someone recommend a 98 usd (1200 inr)RGB keyboard with breathing cycle in amazon.in?

[hidden quail]

how do i know if my keyboard is hotswappable

[unkempt dome]

It's usually advertised on the product page when it's hotswap

[pulsar folio]

what keyboard do you have?

[rose glen]

the only ASMR playlist worth listening to

[rose glen]

it will tell you on the product page, every keyboard manufacturer wants to advertise hot swap to try and appeal to the enthusiest market, if you got it from a friend with no packaging you could look up the company, it will usually say somewhere on the keyboard along with the specific model, if you dont have a specific model wrote on the board you can just look for a similar looking board on the companies site and check the product information that way to see if its hotswap

hope that helps ❤️

[viscid tapir]

why does not vendor sell 40g or 35g springs

all i find are 50g and a very few 45g

[chrome raft]

gl with building (:

[pseudo bolt]

1986 IBM 5291/5292 Display Station Keyboard (Model F terminal keyboard). Capacitive buckling spring switches.

Aka, "the bigfoot" due to this lol

[chrome raft]

it looks good but does it sound good

[pseudo bolt]

Depends if you're into clicky switches I guess. Buckling springs are pretty unique. If you've ever tried or heard a Model M, imagine that but bit higher pitch.

[viscid tapir]

what length of springs would be more recommended for 45g

i guess short or medium would be most consistent ratio right longer would be too light on top for 45g i guess

[amber tartan]

i love the stepped caps, i bet theyre awful

[unkempt dome]

I love it so much !!!

[hearty dock]

Should I get the Epomaker TH80 or EP84

[junior condor]

does it matter if i get a different base of gk61 are they all the same?

like theres punkston and stuff like that

[pseudo owl]

I think maybe something with return issues

Possibly

[somber flower]

Hi all

can anyone recommend a keyboard

need a decent gaming mechanical keyboard

will be travelling a lot

so size is a factor

and weight

but it's going in a suitcase so

[glossy sandal]

https://nuphy.com/collections/keyboards

[somber flower]

I was thinking maybe a KeyChron

[glossy sandal]

any of these pique your interest?

[somber flower]

I'm UK Based

Halo 65/75

looks nice

but others no

[junior condor]

how do i tell if i can hotswap a key with diff one

[glossy sandal]

what board?

[junior condor]

im gonna put black switches

[glossy sandal]

It’s not

[somber flower]

do you recommend keychron?

[somber flower]

Nozemi do you recommend Keychron?

[junior condor]

any recommendations?

[somber flower]

why?

[pulsar folio]

I do, got 2 Q3s and 1 Q1 Pro ^^ haev a K6 somewhere too iirc

but it does depend what you're after too though

[glossy sandal]

the adapter cables are a bit awkward

and also looks ugly

[glossy sandal]

For your budget, not really

I’d just suggest saving up

or buy a cheap office board until you can buy something decent

[junior condor]

👍

[somber flower]

I think I'm gonna get a v2

65%

[somber flower]

this

[somber flower]

^^

[somber flower]

adapter cables?

like what's used to power it?

can't you just substitute it out for any USB-C?

[boreal rivet]

For your use case just buy a hhkb

[urban panther]

do it

[somber flower]

Not familiar

How much are they?

[boreal rivet]

Google it

[glass jolt]

any tips with zmk for users who switch between windows and mac (for work) in regards to macros/helpers? Such as adding custom keycode and assigning copy/paste/print screen to that and have the macro use the proper keycodes based on host os?

[echo slate]

how are the default OSA keycaps on Keychrons?

good enough?

[junior jacinth]

You're not a real keyboard enthusiast if you use Qwerty layout.
Dvorak is superior as an example.

[chrome raft]

are blue switches good

like their clacky sounds but should I switch them out for brown switches also

[amber tartan]

preference

also theyre clicky

[viscid tapir]

i just found out that vendors sell springs based on return force not actuation force

for example tx states return force while sprit states actuation force at least on vendors i checked

thinking if i should keep 58g ktt kang white springs or get some 50g tx springs

since i just ordered lube and i did not get springs

[viscid tapir]

personally one of my favorite profile next to mt3

if you like rounder and sculpted keycaps you will probably like them but plastic is quite thin compared to other keycaps

[viscid tapir]

if you have enough time to master it

otherwise it is not practical really unless it would be widely used

[echo slate]

Ive not tried anything similar in shape to them yet

as long as they're OK to start off with, its fine

since I've already spent a decent amount on the keyboard and switches, dont wanna spend another 30, 40 or 130 on keycaps

[cunning anvil]

wondering if i should put mounting holes in the pcb for caseless prototyping, or just not and hope that the case and pcb just work

[neon sundial]

After taking my G915 apart because my cat vomited on it i realized how horrible this thing is to replace switches and stuff and just to deep clean, what is a good repair friendly wireless keyboard?

[amber tartan]

probably a hotswap that you can fully open up

[neon sundial]

Yes, but which one is good bang for buck?

[pseudo owl]

Keychron v series

[viscid tapir]

i feel you well keycaps are pretty expensive part compared to the rest

they feel nice they are more round and sculpted so they are really comfortable for fingertips

[twilit flare]

I'm back

[pseudo owl]

Hi

[viscid tapir]

what is better for slow curve or linear 15mm or 16mm tx springs

looking for similar to milky yellow springs but lighter but similar curve but probably 50g since if i understand correctly yellow springs are 60g for bottom out

[shrewd anvil]

is the steelseries apex pro with omnipoint 2.0 switches scratchy?

a friend of mine let me try his corsair K70 mini with cherry mx red switches and since the omnipoint switch also is a linear switch, i was wondering if it would also feel scratchy?

[unkempt dome]

Not all linear switches feels scratchy ... you just happened to try one that is known to be like that

But I don't know how the omnipoint 2.0 are supposed to feel

[shrewd anvil]

i watched some videos on youtube about it and thay dont sound scratchy, just a smooth CLACC when they hit the bottom

[cunning anvil]

time to buy more pro micros

maybe i should get more USB c magnetic adapters first though

[echo holly]

Good linears shouldnt be scratchy

Those arent good so idk

[magic wolf]

1: is silicone grease viable keyboard lube, it has a similar consistency to vasoline

2: if you had to describe what kinda foam makes the biggest difference, which one is it. I mean it goes as wide as packing peanuts to that rock solid stuff you can rip a chunk out of and not get messy

3: I’ve got hella orings, that are just slightly too big to stay on.

4: I swear if you guys tell me to just buy the gamer branded <everything above> you’re hilarious

[pseudo owl]

1. No.
2. Probably pe foam or case foam, dunno what kind they use for case mainly though.
3. ok
4. We are not gonna tell you to buy gamer branded shit when it comes to keyboards. Anyone that does can be escorted to the comedy club and they can tell their jokes there.
   So to sum it up, get 205g0, get some PE foam.

@magic wolf

[magic wolf]

Much appreciated. I can make the orings fit around the key caps with a small amount of teflon. Viable? I have uhh. Been asked to make it quieter or get rid of it

[pseudo owl]

Tbh o rings aren’t my fav mod as they get rid of the feel of mechanical

Oh

I see

If you need to

Sure

[magic wolf]

Do you think. Heavier keycaps be the play?

[boreal rivet]

Why would it

[magic wolf]

Cause they, mm. How do I explain. Almost finished up

This keyboard they sound particularly louder on the return

Not the press

Linear switches

[slate frigate]

How should I pop the stems out of my HHKB 2? Isn’t there a special tool for it?

[boreal rivet]

just push them out from the top

they come with nubs from the factory to keep them in place but don't do anything once assembled

[slate frigate]

Oh thank you I was wondering about that!

[magic wolf]

Okay this was just mad placebo.

Foam did the trick

What I was hearing was reverb

[uneven salmon]

Any suggestions for a Budget Wireless Keyboard with a Multiple Device feature?

[round coral]

hey guys.... accidentally broke the up arrow on my MX Keys wireless something the non mechanical one.... does any one know where to buy there caps.... Logitech is playing Apple on me on this

these*

[junior condor]

im trying to get a good keyboard with black switches for 50 nzd is it possible?

[junior condor]

how do purple switches sound

[manic flare]

Uh.. does anyone have an idea how to fix this?

[amber tartan]

pcb problem

[junior condor]

yo is it okay to mod with vaseline one of my friends did it and it sounds so good

[manic flare]

Hmm ye i think so

I had this for like 2 or 3 years idk if its suppose to break or it can live longer

[pseudo owl]

No

It is not

That Vaseline will wear off and ruin the keyboard

[junior condor]

oh dam?

[pseudo owl]

Yeah

Not made for keyboards

[junior condor]

isnt it only for specific keys

[pseudo owl]

Never heard of anyone using Vaseline and it working in the long run

My recommendation, just get krytox 205g0