peripherals

[pseudo owl]

I forgor

Anyways

I go now

Bye

Have a good day everyone

[cunning anvil]

i think id rather make stacked acrylic svgs with inkscape and kicad than try getting cad in wine

oo i wonder how dumb it's to have a design pipeline on steam deck

[pseudo owl]

[serene sluice]

Looking at getting a Keychron K3 Pro or a NuPhy Air75

Anyone have any Pros and Cons about either? I have watched the ShortCircuit on the NuPhy and the 2.4 GHz dongle is enticing over the just Bluetooth.

Keychron is running a sale right now, but the NuPhy is only 20 more USD with the carrying case.

Any input would be appreciated

[serene sluice]

Dang the NuPhy AIR75 shine through keycap option is ABS and not PBT, but I dont really know the difference in each

[glossy sandal]

chicka chicka bowow

[serene sluice]

Supposedly they just get less yellow

but abs get more "greasy/oily" over time

[glossy sandal]

both are pretty good, keychron supports qmk/via which I think is the better software compared to nuphy’s proprietary software

I’ve tried a couple k pro boards and some nuphy boards, I’ve liked nuphy boards more but k pro boards are also nice

abs doesn’t really get “greasy”, just shines easier

[dire veldt]

ABS is usually easier to mix colours into, so you’ll get@more vibrant sets in abs than pbt

[glossy sandal]

that’s also true but doesn’t really matter here because sets on prebuilts (these specifically) aren’t too vibrant

[boreal rivet]

Fair enough lol

[glossy sandal]

hi mx!!!

[boreal rivet]

Hi

[glossy sandal]

are you doing better now

[boreal rivet]

Yes

It cleared up after the second day lol

[glossy sandal]

congrats I guess

[boreal rivet]

Thanks

[cunning anvil]

hey gas

4x10, bottom row is just 2u pro micro, 1u encoder

and a 7u space

like a pain27 but... ortho? idk

[glossy sandal]

gon eatta cake for breakfast

[cunning anvil]

what cake?

[glossy sandal]

tres leches

sponge cake marinated in evaporated, regular and condensed milk

[serene sluice]

I am leaning more towards the numphy for the 2.4 GHz Wireless, but there is no listing of polling rates on their website

I also might get the abs shine through with the keyboard since I want the shine through for if I’m in a darker place

If I get the NuPhy I’m getting it with the case, wrist rest, and the shine through abs keys

[glossy sandal]

I’ve never had a issue with Bluetooth boards but if you’re gaming or doing something that requires low latency a dongle will mitigate that

[glass jolt]

Anyone know of some good kailh choc caps that have a good selection of symbols? For building a split board. Shine through is a plus but not required

Hopefully something I don't need to spend $100 on. Lol

[serene sluice]

Yea I would be using Dongle for gaming on my desktop and then Bluetooth on my laptop unless I am gaming then I’d used dongle there

[cunning anvil]

it bothers me its not centered

but i want a bigass spacebar

also its funny its not centered kinda

[pseudo owl]

Ooh I like

[chrome raft]

Ops on this £11 keyboard

[glossy sandal]

that’s pretty funny

how many keys do you gotta take off before it’s a macropad

[cunning anvil]

@glossy sandal

[autumn agate]

Smh gas where ru

[glossy sandal]

I was eatin

the Thai food

[glossy sandal]

can you cut it down the middle

wait Nevermind

[autumn agate]

Scrumptious

[glossy sandal]

It was

I should’ve eaten more

[autumn agate]

🫶

[sharp elk]

What’s the best gaming keyboard

[amber tartan]

QK80

[glossy sandal]

Wooting 60HE

Or Hephboard H-1

[amber tartan]

why arent there custom optical boards or switches

[glossy sandal]

Because mx is easy to make money off

[amber tartan]

true.....

but we have alps and space invaders and stuff why not opticals

i would love to see some custom optical boards

[glossy sandal]

I don’t

I’d prefer Hall effect

[amber tartan]

fair

[glossy sandal]

I’ve seen a cool 2 Hall effect projects I’m interested in

Wooting and Hephboard, hephboard being a tiny bit weird

[boreal rivet]

have there been custom SI boards?

[amber tartan]

yes

[boreal rivet]

huh neat

[glossy sandal]

where

[amber tartan]

i thought i already showed you

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114194.0

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115420.0

[glossy sandal]

you never showed me

[amber tartan]

soz

[boreal rivet]

spaccboard dude is friends with KMU yuck

[glossy sandal]

KMU?

[glossy sandal]

It’s okay nightpie I forgive you

[boreal rivet]

KeebMeUp

aka andj

[glossy sandal]

j

[sharp elk]

Does anyone have a 4090 build ?

[glossy sandal]

why

huh

[warm lodge]

ya

[sharp elk]

What’s your build

[warm lodge]

r9 7950x
32gb 6000mhz
msi trio oc 4090

500gb nvme
2tb nvme
1tb ssd
1tb hdd

i had 64 ddr4 but i cant get my hands on 32 more ram

my 5900x died 😭

[sharp elk]

Rip

[fluid birch]

Suggest good mechanical keyboard under 40$ pleas.

[amber tartan]

gl

[marble dock]

Was gonna mention the new flux keyboard, but did a sanity check and saw it already brough up several times here 😅

[amber tartan]

good on you

[marble dock]

🙃

Looks so good, really hope they deliver on their promise

[pseudo owl]

https://www.pikatea.com/products/sketchy-sketchy-group-buy

I found this on GitHub open source, dipped my toes into trying a buy, got a decent few people interested before I realized I went in way over my head. I asked if anyone wanted to take this project over, and I’m glad Jack pikatea said yes, glad he took over because he will do great things with this project

[cunning anvil]

1800% keyboard

[cunning anvil]

unrelated (/s) but anyone know where to get around 2000 switches?

[boreal rivet]

mouser lol

[valid sigil]

Just got the razer deathstalker v2 recently and have absolutely been loving it! That said though, the space bar makes a "thoomp" sound when I let up on it quickly. The sound is similar to Schwarzenegger loading the grenade launcher in T2. It was cool at first but is starting to get to me... Sticking some thin foam under the keycap doesn't work.

I'm thinking of filling the hollow spaces of the spacebar with epoxy... What do you guys think?

[boreal rivet]

thats stupid as shit

[cunning anvil]

artisan feel without the look

[coral ferry]

I'm really tempted to get the April Fools Wooting keyboard, but 50 USD is a bit much for my budget just for 3 buttons

[glossy sandal]

thoomp

[glossy sandal]

it’s for rhythm game players

osu ppl and whatnot

[coral ferry]

if it was 25 dollars, I don't care who it's for...

[chilly perch]

I filled my Amazon space bar keycap with resin. I think it helps

Foam might be just as good but it was more annoying to get

[marble bridge]

can't you just play rhythm games on a normal keyboard lol

I do that

[glossy sandal]

you can

but it’s about the latency and the adjustable actuation point

[marble bridge]

I have the Steelseries Apex Pro which does have adjustable actuation

I have a profile set up specifically for rhythm games

of course it's more expensive than the 50$ thing

[old lotus]

Anyone got a Logitech G915 keyboard?

[glossy sandal]

yeah but no one needs an entire keyboard for Rythm games

it's a macropad of sortds

[marble bridge]

yeah ik

i was just thinking cuz u need a keyboard anyway

and as they said its pretty expensive for 3 buttons

[sleek bronze]

Good ol Aliexpress

[cunning anvil]

for that quantity im wondering if Alibaba would

https://jwick.m.en.alibaba.com/

hmm

[glossy sandal]

what are you up to

scheming

[cunning anvil]

@glossy sandal

[glossy sandal]

waht

how

[cunning anvil]

plotting

io expander

[glossy sandal]

schming

[cunning anvil]

only needs like

[glossy sandal]

what's 104x 18

[cunning anvil]

85 pins

1872

[glossy sandal]

oh wow you'd need alot of keycaps

pretty spensie

spensive

[cunning anvil]

probably gonna make a dummy 100% board and wire them together

instead of ordering 1 colossal pcb

[glossy sandal]

whats' the case gonna look like

[cunning anvil]

idk it's planning stage rn

plywood base

and nothing else

[glossy sandal]

hmm

too silly

[cunning anvil]

I'm trying to cut corners

or

literal layers

[glossy sandal]

off what?

[cunning anvil]

i mean physical stacked layers of boards

[glossy sandal]

;map

lmao

[cunning anvil]

?

ooh

40% boards supposedly only have 4 rows

wide af

[glossy sandal]

oh you're not doing full size boards?

[cunning anvil]

no i am just thinking of the 1800 key 40%

[glossy sandal]

that's such an oxymoron

bahaha

[cunning anvil]

hey it doesn't matter if it's 450 keys wide

only matters is 4 rows

[glossy sandal]

that's hilraous

hilarious

like big dill extended but like

so much more

[cunning anvil]

in all "seriousness", i wonder how to organize a 1800%

[glossy sandal]

make it out of full size boards but chain them so it looks like a 1800

[cunning anvil]

ooh wait

split

2x 3x3 of 1800

[glossy sandal]

what

garten of banban was so short

[cunning anvil]

it LOOKs like 2 1800s, but each key would really be 3x3 1us

[glossy sandal]

oh lmao

like if you took a picture real far away it looks like a 1800 if you squinted?

and then every "1u" is a 3x3 key

[cunning anvil]

ya

[glossy sandal]

that's the best idea yet

[cunning anvil]

or should i base it off of 100%

bc its a % kb

or

both

[glossy sandal]

i mean it's called a 1800%

why not base it off 1800 layout

[cunning anvil]

one side is a 3x3u 1800, other is a 3x3 100%

[glossy sandal]

whuh

how would that work

[cunning anvil]

bc 3x3 is 9

i need 18x

oo, physical emoji keyboard

[glossy sandal]

it's just all so much

[cunning anvil]

could be a use

[glossy sandal]

hmmm

[cunning anvil]

apparently Tom Scott made one but with ahk which is cheating

more like emoji terminal

[glossy sandal]

that's alot of soldering

[cunning anvil]

I'm probably gonna do pcb assembly at that point

wait

2x 900% is not

id have to order two different honking big pcbs

w8 pcb assembly does 2x im safe

[glossy sandal]

[cunning anvil]

me realizing that the spacebar would be a 3x3 of spacebars

[glossy sandal]

ohs hit

what sizea

7u or 6.25

or rather 21u or 18.75u

[cunning anvil]

whatever's most common on 100% sets? idk

[glossy sandal]

that would be 6.25 i think, but cheap sets have been more inclusive of 7u

[cunning anvil]

i wonder if i should buy 18 different sets

[glossy sandal]

that would be

interesting

differing profiles and everything?

[cunning anvil]

probably not,

but maybe

[glossy sandal]

if you did that would be

manic

[cunning anvil]

wait if it's emoji kb...

hmm

[glossy sandal]

scheming plotting

[cunning anvil]

schemes and plots

[glossy sandal]

@chrome raft

hi

[chrome raft]

whar

hi

[cunning anvil]

should i make it have one extra key on each side

[chrome raft]

you were just dming me why ping me here

[glossy sandal]

like split xt?

[cunning anvil]

call each side over 900

[glossy sandal]

got bored

can you tell me what mobo would work

what fuck

there's a space invaders

[glossy sandal]

like this but with xt columns on each side

[chrome raft]

im gonna stab you

[glossy sandal]

what why

what'd io do

[cunning anvil]

xt?

[glossy sandal]

the column on the left

that's an xt column

[cunning anvil]

idk

[glass jolt]

I'm really wanting to build the sofle rgb split board. my adhd really shows when I see it takes 2-3 weeks minimum to ship the parts from somewhere. Amazon prime has spoiled me.

[cunning anvil]

ow my eyes

[glass jolt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yrFrXTTTcHIY0

[cunning anvil]

i think this is gonna be a

big project

i forgot how big 100% is

[glossy sandal]

god

[cunning anvil]

imagine lubing this one

[cunning anvil]

dont forget this is only half

yeah im probably gonna stack them...

"3x as big in ALL dimensions!"

[coral ferry]

Is G613 any good?

[cunning anvil]

just realized id have to route 1800 switches and diodes

or 900ish if i

only make one layout

[cunning anvil]

hey gas look where the mouse is relative to the homing

doesnt that look like pain

[feral sluice]

I say any keyboard is good as long as all the keys work. The bonus of the keys being able to glow in the dark is only a luxury. I got a light up keyboard for good visibility of my keyboard in the dark. I don't like and care for the bright solid and flashing lights. Also the glow of of computers don't matter a lot since you are looking at the screen and playing games more often than staring at some pretty bright blinding lights.
I used a cheap all black and white slim keyboard used in office settings for years until I got my first ever light up keyboard, which had bright blinding light leaking from the edges of the keys and hurt my eyes. Later on some of the keys just stopped working and some worked every now and then. It was a keyboard by Roccat. I even had a Roccat mouse. Don't buy their stuff. It isn't worth the cost.
Logitech products have always been good. Their products hold up for quite a while when you take good care of them. Previous headphones have lasted for a few years until a gremlin got a hold of them are used and/or played with them a few times. Once they were broken at the speaker's base I used JB Weld to get it back together. The headphones worked just fine after for a long time. The headphones were the Logitech G430. Right now I am using the Logitech G413 Carbon keyboard. It has only one color option (red) and no bright blinding lights peaking from the edges of the keyboard (I really like that). The brightness setting on my keyboard is set on a low setting. The Logitech G613 keyboard I never used. As I said before and I will say again Logitech products are really good (the headphones though I don't know if I would recommend now knowing you can buy a better set of headphones that are not made for games and a separate mic).

Darn it! Why did I type up such a long message!

If anyone here has any experience with the G613 keyboard respond to Xnamkcor. I only talked about how I have noticed that Logitech products tend last for a good amount of time.

[cunning anvil]

major revision

idk if i like that

but it gets the mouse keys on homerow

without breaking 11u

[glossy sandal]

I’m so glad those words weren’t directed at me

[cunning anvil]

eh?

[glossy sandal]

the paragraphs

[cunning anvil]

ah well at least it was just one ping

[glossy sandal]

yeye

so the katana

[cunning anvil]

at this point it doesnt really seem like the katana anymore lol

but ye

[glossy sandal]

rotary encoder right under trackpoint?

[sand pagoda]

Wtf is this?

[sand pagoda]

And this?

[glossy sandal]

send like a bit of a hassle to use trackpoint no?

[glossy sandal]

900%

[glossy sandal]

a silly

[cunning anvil]

wip

[sand pagoda]

But why?

[glossy sandal]

why not

[cunning anvil]

because put two of them together

and you have an 1800

%

[glossy sandal]

two two of them

[cunning anvil]

true, maybe just a silly button then

[glossy sandal]

seems like it would bother access to the trackpoint

[sand pagoda]

But why? What is it’s purpose? And what are all the keys for?

[glossy sandal]

Yeah

[glossy sandal]

silly

[sand pagoda]

Fair

[cunning anvil]

because 1800

[glossy sandal]

did you not know of 1800 prior to me bringing it up

[cunning anvil]

huh? idr when you brought it up lol

[cunning anvil]

no i knew

[glossy sandal]

oh

[cunning anvil]

i think

[glossy sandal]

cause you mentioned 1800%

hmm

[quiet tide]

What should I know to pick out a keyboard. For now I only want it to be white as for other specifications I have no idea

[glossy sandal]

uhh

[quiet tide]

My bad bro 💀

[glossy sandal]

layout, switch type, other miscellaneous stuff like sound and portability

[quiet tide]

Layout u mean 100% 60% etc?

[glossy sandal]

mhm

[quiet tide]

Switch type I dont know what is good

[glossy sandal]

ok if you don’t know what you like I think linears would be a safe choice

[quiet tide]

Sound I want it to sound good not plasticy or idk how to explain it but not so loud to the point everyone can hear it from my mic

[quiet tide]

Whats the difference if u dont mind explaining

[sand pagoda]

Some need more force, some sound louder, some you need to push further to register a click etc

[glossy sandal]

linears are a straight push down, supposed to be smooth

tactiles have a bump somewhere along the travel while it goes down for feedback

[quiet tide]

So linears are better for the time being cause idk how tactile are

[glossy sandal]

and clickies have clickbars/clickjackets which give a bit of tactile feedback and a loud click noise

[quiet tide]

As long as the click noise cant be heard by others I am fine w it

[glossy sandal]

it’s pretty loud

so linears

how about layout?

[quiet tide]

Uhb um idk I am lost abt the arrows

[glossy sandal]

on anything smaller than 65% (un standard layouts barred) arrows aren’t present

[quiet tide]

I used to use the arrows alot on laptops cause I had no mouse scroll wheel would I still need them w a mouse scroll wheel or not anymore

[glossy sandal]

I mean, what do you use arrows for now?

[quiet tide]

Just scrolling through pages that I cant use the mouse in

But that would be solved w a scroll wheel

[glossy sandal]

does your mouse not have a scroll wheel

[quiet tide]

Or going down in excel and word I used arrows

[glossy sandal]

what are you using brother

[quiet tide]

No laptop

[glossy sandal]

ah

isn’t there a trackpad

[quiet tide]

Yeah I think so

But it's still like odd I guess I am not quite sure

[glossy sandal]

so arrows or not

up to you really

[quiet tide]

Guess we can include them for now and also the F keys do u need them?

For gaming

I never used them iirc

[glossy sandal]

have you used a computer in the last few years?

[quiet tide]

Not gaming

Always been a console boy

[glossy sandal]

ah that explains it

you can still access function keys on a keyboard that doesn’t have physical f keys

[quiet tide]

Yep thats why I have no idea as far as keyboards

[glossy sandal]

FN + “_”

[quiet tide]

Well that means 60% right?

[glossy sandal]

works for f keys 1-12

[glossy sandal]

for anything that doesn’t have f keys

[quiet tide]

65% for arrows

[glossy sandal]

like 65%, 60%, 40%. Etc

A quick question, what’s the budget?

[quiet tide]

Tbh idrk I want a good quality wireless but I dont have a set budget

I just know I wont be making a custom one

I am afraid of setting a budget and it being lower than what most good keyboards cost

I dont wanna cheap out here ig

For the mouse I went w a logitech pro x super light

[glossy sandal]

pretty cool mouse, I like razer mice though

[glossy sandal]

A number you’re comfortable with spending

that’s all budget really is

[quiet tide]

Idk I just wanted wireless and white 💀

Also had good reviews

[quiet tide]

Maybe 250 ig

[glossy sandal]

heard

[quiet tide]

Hope that will be good enough

[glossy sandal]

It’s plenty

let me think up some stuff, 65%, right?

[quiet tide]

Or you could go 60% cause afaik tbere are more 60% than there is 65%

I think scroll wheel will be fine too

[cunning anvil]

whats good w razer?

[glossy sandal]

so a 65%/60% with a knob?

[glossy sandal]

best sensors out rn, also like their shapes

also not plagued with double clicking issues like Logitech

[cunning anvil]

huh

[quiet tide]

Knob?

[glossy sandal]

A scroll wheel

[cunning anvil]

i think gas means the scroll knob, but youre getting a mouse yea?

[quiet tide]

Ayo u scaring me fr 💀

[glossy sandal]

oh I made a mistake

[quiet tide]

All good lmao

[glossy sandal]

I thought you meant you wanted a knob

but you just said you’ll use the scroll wheel on the mouse

[cunning anvil]

ive got a logitech mmo mouse, been a good minute but no double clickin (yet)

[quiet tide]

Yeah should've maide it clearer lmao

[glossy sandal]

most of the complaints are with the g502

but some other mice also double click

[cunning anvil]

ah

i like logitech bc they seem most supported for my case

[glossy sandal]

I don’t like most of the big ones because proprietary software blehh

but I uninstall them afterwards + onboard memory so all good

[cunning anvil]

true

i dont wanna whip up a vm for that tho

[glossy sandal]

@quiet tide quick question

you didn’t wanna build custom, right?

[quiet tide]

Yep?

[quiet tide]

Nope

Unless it's 250 but I doubt it

[glossy sandal]

why?

[quiet tide]

Also dont have the equipment

[glossy sandal]

I mean my most recent build was done with 230$ish dollars and all the tools included in the kit

[cunning anvil]

wdym by customs

[quiet tide]

Oh well thats alright with me then btw I am not in the US so preferably smth in the EU to be closer to me

[glossy sandal]

which country?

[quiet tide]

You could get it from Italy, Malta, Turkey and I guess there's also UAE

Those are closest to me

[glossy sandal]

not a lot of vendors in that area

[quiet tide]

Yeah thats the prob

[glossy sandal]

is this build in euros or usd?

[quiet tide]

Dont mind either

[glossy sandal]

so 250$ usd

got it

[quiet tide]

Yep good luck

[cunning anvil]

rip katanalike

might just make it mouseless

[glossy sandal]

it’s so

odd

[glossy sandal]

any other size or strictly 65% and60%?

[cunning anvil]

yes 11u is odd

[quiet tide]

Have u found keyboards in other sizes?

[glossy sandal]

I have a couple ideas

but will tkl work?

and 75%?

[quiet tide]

Tkl?

Whats that

[glossy sandal]

ten keyless

imagine a full size keyboard but without the numberpad

[cunning anvil]

no number pad

[quiet tide]

Yeah idc abt the numpad

[glossy sandal]

kk

also strictly white?

[glossy sandal]

why is the arduino down there

[cunning anvil]

its always been down there

where else could it go anyways

[quiet tide]

Yes preferably

[glossy sandal]

outside

maybe bake in the sun

[glossy sandal]

got it

[glossy sandal]

do you mind waiting a bit?

[cunning anvil]

its there bc i dont wanna have it on the bottom of the pcb and make it thiccer

[quiet tide]

Yeah no problem at all take your time

[cunning anvil]

i think gas means waiting for the board??

not sure

[glossy sandal]

yep

there’s a preorder on both the tofu65 and tofu60 2.0 versions

[glossy sandal]

I meant why not put it on top

[cunning anvil]

and make it 5u tall?

at that point id start putting a num/f row

[quiet tide]

Keyboards?

[cunning anvil]

yes

[glossy sandal]

mhm

[glossy sandal]

just like mercush40

[quiet tide]

I see so they're the best in this price range and they have bpth 60 and 65

[cunning anvil]

the wh

[glossy sandal]

no, they’re just what I think would do best for your circumstances

[glossy sandal]

mercutio

[quiet tide]

65 ver looks neat

[glossy sandal]

I personally hate that one but it’s kinda neat you like it

[cunning anvil]

well if i had that top i think id make it a splittable too

[glossy sandal]

both should be good boards, they’re expected to ship by this month

[quiet tide]

💀

Why do u hate it lmao

[glossy sandal]

I dislike the layout

I hate 65% overall but I hate the implementation of it on that board specifically

blockerless 65% with 3 1us on the side of the spacebar

[cunning anvil]

that doesnt sound that bad >.>

maybe thats my blocker hater talkin

[quiet tide]

What does that mean

[glossy sandal]

it’s a preference thing

[quiet tide]

Also what is this 💀 why so manh options

[glossy sandal]

E-Coating white is what you want

[quiet tide]

Just colours I see

[chrome raft]

Carbon fiber god damn

[glossy sandal]

look at the row with the spacebar, I hate the one on the right

[quiet tide]

[quiet tide]

The space between the arrows?

That does loom stupid

I liked this colour too like damn

[glossy sandal]

it’s really a preference thing

[cunning anvil]

cannon keys has 30 dollar mystery caps

tempted

[glossy sandal]

just sharing my opinion

[quiet tide]

Nah I get u but ehich ver was thaf

[glossy sandal]

for plate fr4 is a safe option, not too bendy or stiff

[glossy sandal]

?

[cunning anvil]

which version?

[quiet tide]

My bad I am tired asf rn

Cause this one doesnt have that

[cunning anvil]

those were example boards

the tofu65 2.0 doesnt have blockers

[quiet tide]

Oh but they were the same colour as the one they had iirc

So he likes blockers or he doesnf like blockers

[cunning anvil]

i actually dunno

[quiet tide]

Now that I think abt it I have seen this keyboard recommended in many vids

[cunning anvil]

says one then gives an example of the other

[quiet tide]

There were always just goo many options at 250 I couldnt make a decision

[quiet tide]

Lmao

[coral ferry]

that's a lot of words for a $5 keyboard

[glossy sandal]

I like blockers

[cunning anvil]

did you not like the asymmetrical blocker?

[cunning anvil]

wait why didnt i make it splittable

hmmm

[glossy sandal]

Tofu65 2.0 doesn’t have blockers

the example board I showed does

[cunning anvil]

you said you hated the one on the right

[quiet tide]

I see so you like blockers for the reason of misscliking then?

[glossy sandal]

that’s a Tofu65 2.0

[cunning anvil]

im confused

[glossy sandal]

what

ah it doesn’t matter

buy the tofu65 2.0

it’s just a personal issue I have with it, purely aesthetic

[quiet tide]

Same here lmao

[cunning anvil]

which one is on the right

[quiet tide]

Just looks so it isnt cause of missclicking

[cunning anvil]

for you

[glossy sandal]

legit just had to check my right and left

[glossy sandal]

The tofu65 2.0

the grey keyboard

[cunning anvil]

oof

wtf discord

[glossy sandal]

I’m stupid

I checked my right and left again

I meant the one on the left

[cunning anvil]

its okay i cant tell my left from my right either

[glossy sandal]

I put two Ls up

the right facing one is left

[quiet tide]

Bro I am losing it 💀

[cunning anvil]

< left right >

[glossy sandal]

yes

[glossy sandal]

don’t worry

[cunning anvil]

same

[opaque shard]

It's interesting how few keys you need to have a good experience when you're willing to relearn how you type

[glossy sandal]

just buy the tofu65 2.0

[cunning anvil]

how many you down to?

[opaque shard]

I'm at 28 keys in total now, and I can see benefits of going lower

[quiet tide]

Yeah thats what Imma do hopefully. No need for other keycaps right these are good iirc

[cunning anvil]

pain27 still has you beat ;P

[glossy sandal]

what

the kit doesn’t come with keycaps or switches

you’ll have to order those separately

[opaque shard]

There's lots of keyboards that use less keys, I just haven't learned to use them yet

[cunning anvil]

yea ik just teasin

[quiet tide]

No way

So I dont get these clean keycaps

[glossy sandal]

you can have those if you want

but you’ll have to order them separately

[quiet tide]

They better be less than $60

[glossy sandal]

those are just called 9009

based off a cherry board made for Reuters Company

tons of manufacturers make that colorway

[opaque shard]

I think I could maybe move down to 26 keys

[cunning anvil]

does that kit include switches

[glossy sandal]

nope!

[cunning anvil]

uh huh

[opaque shard]

It would hard to move to 22 keys and only have two rows

[quiet tide]

Wait what else do I need to get switches too?

😭

[glossy sandal]

just switches and keycaps

[opaque shard]

And O rings

And stabilizers

[glossy sandal]

try to get some off kbdfans and checkout

[opaque shard]

And lube

[glossy sandal]

see if it lets you check out

[opaque shard]

And you need foam

[cunning anvil]

wait do you need stabs for that tofu

[opaque shard]

And a coiled cable

Idk, I know nothing about traditional keyboards

I'm just memeing

[quiet tide]

Wait what do I do now

[glossy sandal]

nope

[cunning anvil]

hey gas, the splittable is back!

[glossy sandal]

comes with cherry screw ins

[cunning anvil]

nice

[glossy sandal]

just as charming as the last time I saw it

love the idc keys

[cunning anvil]

theyre not keys! >:C

[glossy sandal]

add some switches and keycaps to cart

[glossy sandal]

[quiet tide]

Gotta make an acc hold up

[cunning anvil]

theyre connectors

https://www.amazon.com/HONJIE-10Pins-Straight-Connector-Headers/dp/B0834RR68V

these fellas

[glossy sandal]

ohhh

I thought those were just placeholder lmaooo

[cunning anvil]

yeh how else would i make it splittable >.>

i wonder...

[quiet tide]

Whats the name of the keycaps

[glossy sandal]

which keycaps

[cunning anvil]

9009?

[cunning anvil]

rip no eth, no matter how i do it its not enough pins

[glossy sandal]

you want Ethernet in your keybord?

[cunning anvil]

eth connector

more durable

[glossy sandal]

yeah it’s 9009, but kbdfans doesn’t stock it

[cunning anvil]

and also totally nonstandard

but its not like it transfers power right

oh fug poe

[glossy sandal]

you can look through kbdfans’s keycaps catalog for something you like

hey loh quick question

[cunning anvil]

ye?

[cunning anvil]

oh?

[glossy sandal]

does it look good

[cunning anvil]

whats it for

thats a lotta "fins"

[glossy sandal]

aerodynamics?

[glossy sandal]

yep those are 9009

[quiet tide]

Alright thank you

[glossy sandal]

aesthetics

[cunning anvil]

tis aesthetic

[glossy sandal]

in a good way?

[quiet tide]

Nah these peeps messing w me

[glossy sandal]

yeah I looked through kbdfans, they don’t stock 9009 anymore

[cunning anvil]

..

[glossy sandal]

I suggested you look through their catalog of keycaps earlier

[quiet tide]

I see so where else can I find them

My bad bro this is so confusing

[cunning anvil]

so the thing about the keyboards scene is, a lotta stuff just doesnt get stocked after a while

[quiet tide]

Damn thats sad

[glossy sandal]

I’m trying to think

[cunning anvil]

fomo lol

[glossy sandal]

another question

do you need any special layout

or will ansi work fine

[autumn agate]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Hi gas

[cunning anvil]

hi three im seven

[autumn agate]

Hi seven

[glossy sandal]

hi three

[cunning anvil]

hi gas

[autumn agate]

🫶

[glossy sandal]

hi loh

[autumn agate]

We finally got files! I’ll get the keyboard soon!!

[glossy sandal]

oh nice

I come bearing bad news and good news

I found a vendor for 9009 in the eu, in Germany actually

but it’s 119€

[quiet tide]

Whats ansi

[quiet tide]

Holy shit

[glossy sandal]

show me a picture of your current keyboard

[quiet tide]

Dont got one remember laptop 💀

[glossy sandal]

just show me the laptop keyboard

[quiet tide]

1 sec

Shit quality but yeah

[cunning anvil]

split iso enter?

[glossy sandal]

is that

Arabic?

[quiet tide]

Ye

Dont need it

[glossy sandal]

so regular ansi will work fine

did you look through kbdfans keycap catalog ?

there might me something else you like

[glass jolt]

im building a board, and dummy me didn't test/flash the pro micro before soldering. when plugging it in, a light on it shows solid red. and in qmk toolbox I get usb device connected messages, while the pro micro has a solid red led. though another does blink once.
when i reset the board, no lights on the micro change, but in qmk toolbox it will show caterina device connected, then immediately disconnect. for a second the flash button is enabled, but it fails when i manage to hit it.

[cunning anvil]

what pm

[glass jolt]

from what i have read, i may have a short somewhere? but I cant find one.

pm?

[cunning anvil]

pro micro, my b

how immediate was the disconnect

[glass jolt]

let me check

[quiet tide]

Checking it rn

[glass jolt]

looks like it's the arduino pro micro. came with the kit.

[cunning anvil]

usb micro?

or c

[glass jolt]

it takes about 4 seconds to say the micro is connected, and another about 3 to disconnect

usb micro. none of the usb c options were available

[cunning anvil]

is that without hitting flash?

[glass jolt]

no if i don't hit reset, its just generic usb devices connected.

wait. hitting reset i get those messages.

[cunning anvil]

that sounds normal??

whats the issue

[glass jolt]

if i hit flash in those couple seconds, it fails

[cunning anvil]

hmm

how are you resetting?

reset button on keyboard thats not mechanical?

[glass jolt]

Caterina device connected (usbser): Microsoft USB Serial Device (COM9) (2341:0036:0001) [COM9]
Attempting to flash, please don't remove device
> avrdude.exe -p atmega32u4 -c avr109 -U flash:w:"C:\Users\shawn\Downloads\helix_rev2_default_oled_backlight.hex":i -P COM9
> 
> Connecting to programmer: .avrdude.exe: ser_drain(): read error: The I/O operation has been aborted because of either a thread exit or an application request.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> 
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: ser_drain(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> Found programmer: Id = "‹"; type = >     Software Version =  .Å; Hardware Version = ö.
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: error: buffered memory access not supported. Maybe it isn't
> a butterfly/AVR109 but a AVR910 device?
> avrdude.exe: initialization failed, rc=-1
>              Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
>              this check.
> 
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: error: programmer did not respond to command: leave prog mode
> avrdude.exe: ser_send(): write error: sorry no info avail
> avrdude.exe: ser_recv(): read error: The device does not recognize the command.
> 
> 
> avrdude.exe: butterfly_recv(): programmer is not responding
> avrdude.exe: error: programmer did not respond to command: exit bootloader
> 
> avrdude.exe done.  Thank you.
> 
Flash complete

theres a reset button on the board yea.

small button next to trrs jack

when "caterina device connected" is there for a few seconds, theres also the "clear eeprom" button that is enabled. but havent tried it as the build guide didn't mention using it

[quiet tide]

Do you have any recommendations that look cool also idk if I am tripping but do these keycaps look diff than the normal plastic ones @glossy sandal

[glossy sandal]

just render lighting

[cunning anvil]

thats.. does it disappear faster if you jiggle the keyboard?

those connections look a little undersoldered btw

https://www.reddit.com/r/ErgoMechKeyboards/comments/m9mard/anyone_having_issues_flashing_to_an_atmega32u4/

ah

[cunning anvil]

tried these? @glass jolt

I’m guessing you didn’t put in boot loader mode... hold reset while connecting the usb cable

[quiet tide]

There's diff noises god damn it well whatever https://youtu.be/U7Y50T7NKyw
I will look for some cool keycaps but does it come w switches?

No right

[cunning anvil]

those are cute sleeves

[glossy sandal]

I like these keycaps

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/pbtfans-spark-light

I think they would look pretty baller on a white board

but most things go on a white board so

make of that what you will

[quiet tide]

I see thank you I will do my own research on keycaps and pick up the best looking imo

[glossy sandal]

still the funniest shit I’ve seen in this channel

[glossy sandal]

ePBT and domikey are both pretty good, pbtfans is also good

pbtfans are the most affordable

ePBT and pbtfans are both sold on kbdfans, domikey is not

[cunning anvil]

😊

its so absurd

wait i just realized something

i think i messed up the spacing

[quiet tide]

Wait the diff is colour or material etc

[glossy sandal]

they’re all different manufacturers

[glass jolt]

lol yea i was trying to desolder it to test it not on the keeb. but doesn't want to come off. did the same before.

[cunning anvil]

this work?

[glass jolt]

shake the board? lol. cant say i tried that. ill try the items in that post though. did not put in boot loader mode? io tried double clicking and holding it. no difference.

[cunning anvil]

hold while inserting cable, and keep holding until its done flashing, it seems

[glass jolt]

i tried holding it while plugging in. didnt seem to change. ill try again

[cunning anvil]

weird it takes so much time to act weird

[glass jolt]

holding reset, plugging in, i get the red led but nothing happens. when i let go i get the windows notification it connects. if i press it again, nothing, letting go, i get the audio again it connected a device.

[opaque shard]

Wireless split > Wired split

[glass jolt]

i tried waiting until the flash button appeared and hold reset and hit flash, but i get a different error

[quiet tide]

Same size and sound?

[glass jolt]

ill have to try again in a few. gotta pick up the wife real quick

[glossy sandal]

there’s differences

but all of them are decent by my standards

[quiet tide]

I see

Wjat are flex cuts?

[glossy sandal]

cuts in the pcb for a flexier feel

[quiet tide]

Is it better to have them or not?

[glossy sandal]

like alot of things in the hobby, preference

I personally dislike them though

[quiet tide]

That seems to be the same for many

I was wstching a few vids and they kept mentioning it

Isnt this purple one the tofu or am I tripping?
https://youtube.com/shorts/6EEf0e8Rdg4?feature=share

[glossy sandal]

that is a qk75

[quiet tide]

Is it good? I noticed it's probs 75%

Also has a knob

[autumn agate]

It’s a nice budget board

I have it

[quiet tide]

Yeah it's either that or tofu65 2.0

[autumn agate]

It’s a Qk 75

[quiet tide]

Idk the diff bro

One is bigger and thats all I know 💀

[glossy sandal]

guess who wrote this note

[autumn agate]

I dunno

[glossy sandal]

different mounting systems, manufacturers, finishes, prices, sizes, sound profiles, etc

quite a bit

[quiet tide]

Damn why is it hardee than picking a monitor 😭

[glossy sandal]

idk you’ve been asking this entire server for help today though right

[quiet tide]

Shit I have been that active?

[glossy sandal]

idk I look through channels when I get bored

or I just go in badminton

[glossy sandal]

mostly audio tech and build-a-pc

[autumn agate]

🫶🫶

[glossy sandal]

the other channels don’t really interest me

[quiet tide]

I have finished the pc build got my monitor my mouse and in the process of getting a headset and mouse

[glossy sandal]

badminton so lit

[autumn agate]

[glossy sandal]

big plans for badminton soon

[autumn agate]

Ooh

[cunning anvil]

you keep talking about badminton

[autumn agate]

Does it have to do with the leaked board

[autumn agate]

I love badminton

[cunning anvil]

its fun

but wut

[autumn agate]

[glossy sandal]

[cunning anvil]

i donut

understand

[glossy sandal]

Doughnut - Twice so real

[autumn agate]

Twice

Thrice

[cunning anvil]

??

[glossy sandal]

Stan twice

[cunning anvil]

Stan stan?

[autumn agate]

Dhl truck

[glossy sandal]

Japan

three why are you on discord

go have fun

[autumn agate]

It’s raining

[cunning anvil]

looks chinese

[autumn agate]

And I don’t have an umbrella

[glossy sandal]

aren’t you in Japan

or are you still in Taiwan

[cunning anvil]

but i also cant read good

[autumn agate]

I’m in Japan

[glossy sandal]

yeye

[quiet tide]

Nearest 7 11 should have one

[cunning anvil]

bruh i thought it was china i thought there was nothing but kanji

but i found like 3 katakana

[glossy sandal]

Kanji is Japanese derivative of hanzi is it not?

or well a subset of hanzi characters

[cunning anvil]

yeah

thats what got me

[glossy sandal]

[cunning anvil]

i skimmed the pic for any other symbols but clearly missed some

[glossy sandal]

I got it right because he told me he was in Japan

[cunning anvil]

dang

[glossy sandal]

just better 😸

[cunning anvil]

skrillex issue

[glossy sandal]

he was in Taiwan a couple days ago though

[boreal heart]

Guys rate my keyboard (I’m also selling if anyone is interested) I’m gonna buy a qk65 or new tofu instead

[marble bridge]

looks nice

[autumn agate]

[glossy sandal]

kbd67 lite?

[boreal heart]

Yes

[glossy sandal]

omg I’m so good

[boreal heart]

Another pic

[glossy sandal]

nice board, flip that spacebar back

[boreal heart]

No.

[glossy sandal]

those keycaps are alright aswell, I had them before

[boreal heart]

I stand by flipped space bar

So more comfortable

[glossy sandal]

blehhh

[autumn agate]

Ew

I don’t think someone’s gonna trade a qk65 for a kb67lite

[glossy sandal]

that’s not what they said

[autumn agate]

[glossy sandal]

[boreal heart]

I don’t want to trade 💀

That would be dumb for them

I’m selling it to get more money for one

I have money but want more to buy a qk65

[quiet tide]

Whats the diff

[glossy sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/koishi-komeiji-koishi-koishi-fumo-koishi-komeiji-fumo-touhou-gif-26433787

[quiet tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-gif-21260189

Lmao

I see alot of rk61 and g61 what are those

[glossy sandal]

I assume it’s the amount of keys and what layout it supports

[quiet tide]

Same pics tho so I was confused lmao

[glossy sandal]

The 122 key supporting 65%/75% layouts compared to the 108 key only supporting full size and tkl and 60%

[glossy sandal]

honestly

reskins of eachother

neither is worth the time in making them useable

[quiet tide]

If it supports full size cant u just leave the key caps u wont use

[quiet tide]

Thought so very cheap

Also the duck one 2 mini?

[blissful dragon]

i want a fumo

[glossy sandal]

you didn’t like the tofu?

[quiet tide]

💀

Idk I am just asking bro I keep getting recommended these vids when I am lookin for keycaps

[glossy sandal]

Here’s a list of vendors

https://kbd.news/vendors

check here for vendors near you

and then look through each one’s keycap selection

[quiet tide]

Alright bet

Every piece I like is sold out nah thats crazy 😭

I aint gonna buy this second so it's alright

[cunning anvil]

its symmetrical-ish

some blockers

if im gonna use 5 rows im gonna fill 5 rows

[autumn agate]

I’ll buy you one

[glossy sandal]

Fumo

[autumn agate]

🫶

[glossy sandal]

🫶

[cunning anvil]

gas wdytttt

[glossy sandal]

hmmm

that encoder position is kind of awkward no?

[cunning anvil]

idek what id do with pink buttons

[glossy sandal]

make them layer keys

[cunning anvil]

ig

[autumn agate]

[glossy sandal]

or oooo

big bar

really big bar

[cunning anvil]

not in the middle

[autumn agate]

Abc

Abc for keyboard

[glossy sandal]

they make split big bars

[autumn agate]

[cunning anvil]

it's splittable

[glossy sandal]

wait

we’ll unveil it when it’s ready

[cunning anvil]

i need 3 on each thumb tho

[autumn agate]

Yayy

[glossy sandal]

hmm

[autumn agate]

It’s girlie isn’t it

[glossy sandal]

the encoder position is kinda awkward

why not in the middle ?

[glossy sandal]

speaking of girlie

I sent him this layout https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834558873398411335/1093685697145225306/image.png

and he just said “wtf”

[autumn agate]

[autumn agate]

I KNEW IT

I CALLED IT

[cunning anvil]

splitting

[glossy sandal]

[glossy sandal]

ah shit

forgot

[autumn agate]

Dude I knew it

This is so w

Is it going to be alu

[cunning anvil]

that spot is pretty much the best spot to minimize asymmetry

[glossy sandal]

be patient

[autumn agate]

We have to get everyone a copy

🫶🫶

[autumn agate]

Yes gastrail

🫶🫶

[glossy sandal]

hmm

layout seems fine then

[pseudo owl]

I’m broke

[cunning anvil]

radical

[glossy sandal]

maybe get rid of the pink keys though

[pseudo owl]

Three guess what

[glossy sandal]

they aren’t serving any purpose

[autumn agate]

What

[cunning anvil]

they're for uhh

[pseudo owl]

I bought a new thocky lens

[autumn agate]

Yayyy

[cunning anvil]

padding bottom row to full matrix

[glossy sandal]

[cunning anvil]

also

[opal cape]

`

[autumn agate]

Eatered a bee

[quiet tide]

After hours I am done all thats left to search for is the linear switches

[autumn agate]

Slay

[quiet tide]

Bro it's 2am these are different right in colour

Slight diff tho

Also keycap size

Imma sleep leaving this for tmr

[fading iris]

Duuude

I’m tryna find out how many switches are on the keychron V1

But my sleep deprived ass can’t

I cant count for shit rn wtf

[sand pagoda]

Just look it up

Goofy ahh

[fading iris]

Fuck

It’s 82

I only bought 75

I think

[sand pagoda]

Damn, don’t replace the ones you don’t use often imo

Escape key doesn’t deserve a new switch imo

[fading iris]

I’m too tired for this I’m gonna leave this problem for future me

[sand pagoda]

(Unless you have no switches then dang)

[fading iris]

I have spare switches

[sand pagoda]

Nice

[fading iris]

I have glorious pandas and browns

That’s it tho

[autumn agate]

I just wouldn’t replace the f row and mods

[cunning anvil]

did discord remove reacts

weird

im silly it got turned off for some reason lol

[autumn agate]

[sand pagoda]

Lmao

[grizzled quiver]

95 percent done with my keyboard (now I just need to wait for the aluminum case)

[glass jolt]

ok. back to it. trying to flash this arduino pro micro. holding the reset while plugging it in does nothing until I let go of the reset button. which then it connects just like normal as i I never pressed it. trying to flash it in the moment it shows "caterina device connected" still fails, even if I enable auto-flash in qmk toolbox.

[warped lion]

what\

you have a wooting 65

[grizzled quiver]

Yes, I have a wooting 60HE

[warped lion]

i want one so bad 😭

[grizzled quiver]

“The cheater keyboard” people call it lol

[warped lion]

ik it is

[grizzled quiver]

Hey, they’re not too back ordered now.

[warped lion]

i am broke just bilt a pc 😭

[grizzled quiver]

Oof

[warped lion]

or upgraded

[glass jolt]

oh i never saw the wooting keyboard. thats pretty cool with the analog switches. do any other keyboards do that?

[glossy sandal]

the waga

[boreal rivet]

Your design?

[warped lion]

no it is all custom

[glossy sandal]

something like that, I helped ig

[boreal rivet]

it looks good

that engraving is going shoot the price up alot

[cunning anvil]

girlie?

[glossy sandal]

girlie

[cunning anvil]

neat

[glossy sandal]

I know!!

[glossy sandal]

it’s an homage to some people in a server I guess

still working on it