#peripherals

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sand pagoda
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Generally kits come with everything iirc

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Depends on the kit, and it probably tells you

slim wave
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ok

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thanks

sand pagoda
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You could always buy it “barebones” which I think just means not caps and switches (I may be wrong) and if you get a kit, you can still you your own caps and switches if they are compatible

slim wave
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alright

unkempt dome
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Yes bare bone usually mean no caps and switches ... you are right there

slim wave
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preciate it

sand pagoda
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No problem

sand pagoda
unkempt dome
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Not that long ago tho

slim wave
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bro what are these keybaord cases called

gritty ibex
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i dont know how to feel about this

amber tartan
smoky comet
placid hemlock
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Sounds great

meager rain
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so, I have a disability that hinders the use of my right hand somewhat and I was thinking about getting a split keyboard so I could have a little more flexibility and be able to accommodate the position my hand needs to be in to hit keys easier while gaming. I would welcome any suggestions! thank you in advance!

edit: i'm also thinking a one handed keyboard would work too!

amber tartan
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probably an alice or ergodex

river ermine
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is using coconutoil to lube switches a bad idea?

river ermine
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i have the same issue

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how do i fix it?

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its a metal ting sound

amber tartan
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its pinging unless youll need to mod it to fix it

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or get new stabs entirely

amber tartan
viscid tapir
echo knoll
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yikes.. where are you ordering from?

viscid tapir
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almost all eu vendors have 20eur or 30eur shipping sadly

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was gonna buy from aliexpress i am getting ktt kang white switches there

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but not sure about lube

echo knoll
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nice

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better then paying 60Euro for shipping

smoky comet
craggy iris
echo knoll
echo knoll
amber tartan
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its gh60 type of keyboard

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it could be any gh60

echo knoll
glossy sandal
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Tofu looks so simple

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love it

amber tartan
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i hate tray* mount!!!!!1

glossy sandal
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?????

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do you mean tray mount

amber tartan
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tray young

glossy sandal
echo knoll
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lol tray mount is fine . it just a harder typing feel

amber tartan
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so inconsistent!!!

glossy sandal
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I like mekanisk boards

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most implementations are on cheap boards though blehhh

amber tartan
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personally the magnetic repulsion or aka MagLev type of mount provides the most amount of comfort and flex

echo knoll
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tbh ive never gotten tray mount, ive always used gasket mount

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huh wth is maglav mount

unkempt dome
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I don't like flex when typing

amber tartan
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and then they gave up on the project (?)

viscid tapir
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i am not able to stand gasket

amber tartan
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the board was called lodestone

echo knoll
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of couse it failed, the springs in the switch would consistently activate

amber tartan
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it wasnt the switch that caused it, it was that the board just doesnt feel any different

echo knoll
viscid tapir
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it is like a ship

amber tartan
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theyve basically reinvented tray mounts

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over engineered

viscid tapir
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i did not try many since i disliked q3 and got v3 later

echo knoll
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you should look into boards by Qwertykeys

viscid tapir
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maybe i will check them out in the future but i did not like inconsistency i like flat and hard bottom

amber tartan
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bro tries 2 boards with same budget design and says gaskets are not for me lol

viscid tapir
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says someone who knows nothing about me

echo knoll
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i have this coming , can't wait to try it

viscid tapir
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my friend only uses gasket and i hated every gasket one i used at his place myself

amber tartan
viscid tapir
echo knoll
viscid tapir
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anything i comment you get offended and start attacking me

amber tartan
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(everyone who says anything negative)

viscid tapir
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blocked

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not worth the time man

amber tartan
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lol

echo knoll
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lol its just keyboards nothing to argue about

viscid tapir
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he is insecure and gets easily offended

echo knoll
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if someone doesn't like something so be it

viscid tapir
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and then he needs to gatekeep

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yes tell him that he insults anyone who has different opinion here

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i say live and let live

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enjoy your style

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hahah

amber tartan
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now he has a god complex what a fun convo experience

viscid tapir
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people seem to be immature and have insecurity issues and tehn attack people with different tastes

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most mature way is just to block and walk away

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it is not even worth arguing

echo knoll
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both of you just grow up..

viscid tapir
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if people are closed minded so be it

amber tartan
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lolololol

viscid tapir
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i have grown up long time ago

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have i insulted him once

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he attacks me any server i am in

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he has the biggest crush on me

echo knoll
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like i said there is nothing to argue about, if someone like a certain layout its his/her/ whatever their dogs choice

viscid tapir
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well tell him that

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i never mocked anyone for having a taste

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i even support people who use membrane keyboards

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there is no right or wrong in subjectivity

echo knoll
amber tartan
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somethings off....

glossy sandal
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wawawawa

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it arrived???

amber tartan
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no :(

glossy sandal
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aw man

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it’ll be alright nightpie

amber tartan
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they say maybe this monday they start shipping

glossy sandal
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this board seems cool

amber tartan
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china gb already arrived but some qc problems happened so im hoping it doesnt happen to us

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(pic in question)

glossy sandal
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drop a ic

amber tartan
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IC or pic

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bro

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typo fr

glossy sandal
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ic

echo knoll
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ic

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interest check

amber tartan
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omg its already been 1 years since gb

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and 2 for ic

echo knoll
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1 year seems reasonable

amber tartan
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yuh but god time goes fast

unkempt dome
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Wow that degenerated quickly ...

glossy sandal
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did you buy se or standard

amber tartan
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SE

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lilac

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pourpol

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yummm

river ermine
amber tartan
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no

river ermine
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Is it possible to lube switches without taking em apart?

ivory heath
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Swapping from Box Jades to Box Burnt Oranges

echo knoll
ivory heath
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Damn, these Box Burnt Oranges are way smoother than the Box Jades

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Feels tasty

unkempt dome
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They are nice indeed

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Big round bump feels good

glad summit
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New gmmk pro

unkempt dome
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Congrats on the new keyboard
Hope you enjoy it to the fullest

patent spruce
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Anyone tried Logitech pop keys? It's at my university store lol

sturdy hatch
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Got my switches and keycaps just need the board pepoJuice

unkempt dome
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Nice

sturdy hatch
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Now I get to spend the next hour lubing the switches monkaS

sand pagoda
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Imo just skip that

sturdy hatch
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They sound way different

unkempt dome
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You don't need to lube ... you lube if you want to

eager cipher
blissful dragon
sand pagoda
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Exactly, there you go

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I said “imo just skip that”

blissful dragon
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yeah i would skip it too

unkempt dome
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Then skip it ...

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Unless you don't want to ...

sand pagoda
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Bowie was the one saying not skip it

unkempt dome
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Oh yeah ...

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I should pay attention more o who write what maybe

sand pagoda
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Lmao, it’s fine

sturdy hatch
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You can buy pre lubed switches to so you don’t have to open every single one and grease them

fading iris
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Unrelated

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But just thought I’d let every one know

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Since I’m British

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I live in the future and Americans live In the past

sand pagoda
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April fools?

fading iris
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Americans are such nerds just live in the future guys like me

fading iris
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I am infact a time traveller

sand pagoda
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I’m aware

fading iris
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Major Flex

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Just sayin flushed_orange

blissful dragon
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whoops

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accidentally tapped a gif

sturdy hatch
valid moss
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Obsessed with all things Dwarves, wondering about getting this, but never used Holy Panda switches. generally I alternate around between Cherry MX Reds, Blues, and currently on Browns. Wondering if its worth the gamble

https://drop.com/buy/drop-the-lord-of-the-rings-dwarvish-keyboard

unkempt dome
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The tactility of holy panda is stronger than the one on the mx brown by a lot

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Those are not bad switches but they are usually expensive for what they are

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If you like the look go for it if it's in your budget range ... but maybe you could find a similar keycap set that would cost less and give you the same result in the end ...

glossy sandal
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do you don’t need to buy a trash keyboard or switches you don’t know if you’ll like

valid moss
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...dang the keycaps are almost the same price as the keyboard

unkempt dome
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That can tell you how expensive is the keyboard if the switches makes most of the price ...

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But it's also on sale on the link you sent

autumn agate
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Keyboard

unkempt dome
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Yes it happens sometimes

boreal rivet
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second part applies to basically every other panda clone like yok or whatever

autumn agate
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Red panda

glossy sandal
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hi mx!!

boreal rivet
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down with covid and looking at paint 🔥

glossy sandal
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what!

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you have vaccines?

boreal rivet
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vaccine and previous covid not powerful enough sadge

glossy sandal
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sorry to hear

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I’m sick too, don’t think it’s Covid though

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get well soon!!

boreal rivet
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ty!! !

unkempt dome
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Get well

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Vaccine and previous covid don't prevent from getting it again ... you are just supposed to have a easier time getting through it ... so hopefully all goes well for you

boreal rivet
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ty and i know lol

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weirdly its worse this time

unkempt dome
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Sad to hear that

glass jolt
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Anyone have tips for soldering these kinds of led into a PCB? Maybe a video about how to?

river ermine
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i used coconut oil

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but now i think i accidentasly lubed the cross part where key caps sit on

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the keycaps are loose now

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it glides out with ease

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what do i do?

boreal rivet
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hot air would be ideal

glass jolt
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hmm. i don't have a hot air gun or the paste. i have the fine tip and the hoof tip.

boreal rivet
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figure something out then

river ermine
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guys help

glass jolt
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well thats why i asked here because I didn't know what to do. but looking at what you recommend, i like how the paste might work. ill have to get some

eager cipher
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Iirc

pine flower
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my new switches came in. Kailh crystal navy and pinks

autumn agate
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Nice

pine flower
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They are sooo loud!

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Music to my ears AA_Barbara_Music

autumn agate
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I have the jades, they’re really nice

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Kailh clickies are great

viscid tapir
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milky pro red or ktt kang white switches

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planning on lubing them myself

viscid tapir
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but it all comes down to a taste

pine flower
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I haven't really bought switches before other than for my macropad and I just bought cheap crappy ones on amazon x)

viscid tapir
viscid tapir
amber tartan
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@glossy sandal pics before the shippy

pine flower
pine flower
amber tartan
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no thats from the gb

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and its ano not painted

pine flower
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ooo makes since. They look beyond smooth lol

boreal rivet
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its sandblasted so yeah

glossy sandal
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enjoy!!

autumn agate
sturdy hatch
unkempt dome
sand pagoda
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🤷‍♂️

pine flower
unkempt dome
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Just send a picture of them here and someone will probably know

pine flower
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OEM profile presuming that has a standard meaning

unkempt dome
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Yes it does

pine flower
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my keycaps were pretty cheap so I didn't expect them to be amazing keycaps from 'ranked' they look like knockoff hyper X keycaps but with many more pretty colors

boreal rivet
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OEM profile is pretty good

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usually its material, legends and tolerances that determine whether keycaps are good

unkempt dome
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Kinda popular profile, used a lot on gaming keyboard as far as i know

sand pagoda
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Any good budget options besides keychron? Around $100 and some lighting on the keys would be nice, but not necessary, anything that preferably is prelubed and sounds good out of the box, I’m willing to put it together myself as well

pine flower
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The next thing I want to do is mod my g915 so I can replace these awful keycaps

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That is just a long project -.-

unkempt dome
sand pagoda
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I’m lazy and in the car on a road trip, I can’t google on my phone, any good 65% or 75% from them for the price range?

sand creek
waxen bane
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My build idea from 2 ish years ago
Keyboard specs

Glorious GMMK TKL barebones with led

Drop TLK skylight series keycaps

Durrock Dolphins 62 g switches

Thick films

TKL foam mod

Krytox 295G0 lube.

boreal rivet
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Who asked

amber tartan
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amen

sturdy hatch
sand pagoda
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Prelubed? And does it come with foam? I’m lazy

sturdy hatch
ornate siren
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Does the Logi MX KEYS still use F12 as the volume down key?

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The new mechanical MX Keys keyboard has a separate vol down, which doesnt require the FN key combo

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would be great if the membrane version was updated.

sturdy hatch
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Another option is the gas67 but none of it is lubed and you have to assemble all of it but I tried it and one of the screws stripped so I decided to go for the gmk67

sand pagoda
sturdy hatch
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And keycaps can be bought anywhere I bought mine from Amazon it was 20 dollars for like 137 keycaps they are really nice

sand pagoda
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Yeah, I’ll look into that

glossy sandal
viscid tapir
waxen bane
waxen bane
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I’m not an rgb guy anymore. Lol

viscid tapir
viscid tapir
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i do not mind rgb option but i primarily just use it to put it to pastel blue or something

sand pagoda
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I’m not against it, if it’s good, it’s good imo

viscid tapir
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if not i usually keep it off i never liked rainbow

waxen bane
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Black with white LED tho…

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That I can get behind

viscid tapir
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i like lavender and blue in sort of pastel style

waxen bane
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That’s why generally most people like black and white because you can change up the theme easily without worrying about changing the whole setup

viscid tapir
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i like rgb option just in case so i can turn it on if i want

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if not i rarely use it

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i am not a fan of gaming style

waxen bane
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Understandable

viscid tapir
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i like either white and black or wooden

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was also thinking into going white with lavender

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but i do not want to risk it so much since it is not very neutral

sand pagoda
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I’m in the dark often, and not the best at typing, so I prefer some lighting at least, usually solid blue or something

glossy sandal
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turn on da lights

viscid tapir
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interesting i always have light on

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or you can use monitor light bar

glossy sandal
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I use a monitor light bar

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it’s good

viscid tapir
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i tried some but they had awful light so i do not use them anymore

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always shines into my eyes and reflected off of my monitor

glossy sandal
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I angled mine right and it’s just fine

viscid tapir
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which one are you using

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i tried all angles and it was always something off

glossy sandal
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twas a quntis one

river ermine
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canada prebuilt keyboards?

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rk61 is something im looking at but wondering if it has 65%

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rk68?

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im looking for like fn keys and arrow keys yk?

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tkl prolly

sand pagoda
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75% imo

past vortex
quiet hull
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I have a $100 budget, I want a full size Cherry MX Blue keyboard. Can you guys give me a recommendation for a good keyboard?
It has to be bought on amazon because I have a $50 amazon gift card, and a $50 visa gift card.
I'm currently using a 2013 Razer Blackwidow ultimate (Cherry MX Blue) that I bought used for $15 from a friend, I think I'm the 3rd or 4th user of the keyboard and I want an upgrade.

pseudo owl
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Nooooo sad

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MKultra is closing

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:(

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Very sad

turbid flicker
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hi, I’m having a few troubles with my mechanical keyboard. Each time i press c it presses / alongside it. The same applies to other buttons that are linked to another button. I tried cleaning it a lot and still no results. Reinstalled drivers yet nothing happend. Any help?

autumn agate
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Get a keychron v series

quiet hull
# autumn agate What size?

if there's like a specific number you're looking for i'm not sure, but when I say full size i'm referring to this

autumn agate
quiet hull
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I'm not a fan of the only one that has blue switches

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and most are unavailable

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or out of my price range

sand pagoda
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Would you be willing to build it yourself? It would fit your budget to buy those switches, and a bare bones case and pcb

chrome raft
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honestly this seems like the best option

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gateron isn't bad quality

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and it's gonna give you a similar click

north void
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any suggestions to a 75% keyboard?

chrome raft
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going for cherry wouldn't be ideal in the current market, since they've been overtaken by every other company ever since the patent ran out, so in terms of quality, kailh and gateron are basically even nowadays

quiet hull
chrome raft
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would it be because it doesn't have the middle part?

quiet hull
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I hate how there's literally no room in between the numpad and stuff

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and that yeah

glass jolt
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I love the compactness of their 96%> same with the nuphy 96 boards

quiet hull
chrome raft
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how about going for a 60% keyboard and getting a separate mechanical numberpad later down the line

quiet hull
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I've heard good things about other switches, but I'm not too into keyboards so I never really went deep into researching it

chrome raft
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I feel like that's a good way to get the most usability at your current budget

glass jolt
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If my goal is to make a keyboard more silent than a specific sound, are layers of eva fo still best or would filling the bottom with the silicon mold be better? This is for a keychron k2 pro

chrome raft
chrome raft
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putting silicone would just make the overall sound higher pitch

quiet hull
glass jolt
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That's what I though. I'm about to order a couple sheets of eva foam to use.

glass jolt
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But good to know thanks

chrome raft
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honestly to eliminate noise, there's entire switches for that now

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box pinks are something you should look into

quiet hull
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I use my numpad for certain things but don't use it enough to justify having another thing on my desk

glass jolt
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I almost got a 96% but ended up going with a 75 and using a layer to have a numpad of the main keys if I needed it

chrome raft
glass jolt
chrome raft
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that's also a really good option

glass jolt
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But everywhere takes at least a couple weeks to ship.

north void
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anyone have any good suggestions to a 65% kayboard?

chrome raft
glass jolt
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Are the box pinks easier to get? Are those linear?

chrome raft
glass jolt
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Only want a good tactile. I got some glorious pandas for a macro pad I'm building and love how strong the tactile is on them

chrome raft
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they're called the silent pinks

glass jolt
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But I lived one of those and they don't get very quiet

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Awesome thanks

chrome raft
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the only way you're going to get truly silent might be with a linear honestly

north void
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hello?

glass jolt
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How does the box silent brown compare to the pink?

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For tactile

chrome raft
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I have not tried them myself, I stick to linear for the most part

glass jolt
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Yea I'm ok with linear I just like tactile more. My last board was linear and I liked it

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Well, that last board was a g915 TKL.

chrome raft
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logitech ay? I used to like em quite a bit

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honestly nowadays I'm just moving towards low profile, so I'm way more familiar with the kailh choc family of switches

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also, just to show I'm not speaking out of my ass, here's a keyboard I gave to a friend a while ago

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took a hot minute to make sure those diodes were all the right orientation and the legs were all bent the same amount

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and those are frankenswitches with the stem of a tecsee diamond linear and the body of a tecsee sapphire v2

north void
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please anyone? i am just looking for suggestions for 75% keyboards

dense dock
dense dock
chrome raft
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what's the budget first and foremost

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cause you can just go crazy with budget y'know?

north void
glass jolt
# chrome raft logitech ay? I used to like em quite a bit

Yea. I prefer low profile but there's so few cap options. Especially with shine through for a developer who works a lot at night with no lights. I found a set though for a split board I'm making with low profile kailh choc reds. That for my main board but I got the k2 pro so I have a normal board.
My g915 had a key break and it's $40 to get a new set. I might do that and just sell it.

dense dock
glass jolt
chrome raft
north void
chrome raft
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it's the nullbits snap

north void
north void
chrome raft
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yeeeeesh that's a very very small budget for a 75%

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I've paid that much for switches alone

glass jolt
north void
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idk mans, i haven't done a whole lot of research, just a tiny bit

north void
dense dock
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I'm in the market for a 60% one myself

chrome raft
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ah, pandemic times, I literally just did immersion and didn't let myself type on qwerty for 3 months

glass jolt
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For a simple one, I love the look of the nuphy boards.

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They have a 60 and a 75

chrome raft
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nuphy boards get spensive sadly

glass jolt
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Around $100 maybe a little more

chrome raft
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especially to get something which is relatively simple in the end

north void
glass jolt
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True. I remember when I thought 100 was crazy expensive for a board. But yea seems like the normal now. Unfortunately.

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Depends on your use.

chrome raft
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good place to start is doing a dollar per switch and then adding ten to that amount for something budget wise honestly

chrome raft
glass jolt
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I skimped on good boards for a long time. But I got a screaming deal on a g915 TKL and loves how the mechanical keys felt. Well it died and now as a software dev who easily spends 10-14 hrs a day on a board, I felt it was ok to "invest" in a good board.
A casual user, that's too much lol

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Damn. More than I thought.

chrome raft
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it can get very very very expensive.

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but hey, that same friend gifted me an ltt backpack, so it was all good in the end

glass jolt
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I'm building an older board, a helix split board. And if I don't like it long term, will make a dope macro board

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Coste about $80 minus switches and caps

chrome raft
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that's why I wanna get an ortholinear board honestly, if it doesn't work out, it'll be great for macros

glass jolt
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Damn.. ltt backpack is a nice gift haha

chrome raft
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yup yup, I literally couldn't believe it when it got delivered

glass jolt
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I used an Ortho for a long time. Used to have a typematrix board. They're domed switches but I loved the layout
That's what I'm going for with a split now.

north void
glass jolt
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Was it a kit?

chrome raft
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that's about 75 ish keys

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add ten

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85 bucks

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that's around what you should be looking at spending for a decent board nowadays

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you're not gonna be getting any fancy frills honestly

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but it's not a bad place to start

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it won't feel like ass, it'll have at least a bit of weight, and it won't break itself after using it for two years

glass jolt
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I do like some of the Logitech boards. If you're really wanting mechanical their MX keys mechanical feels great for the price. And they're really reliable. You're paying a small Prius for the name but you can't go wrong.
There are other comparable options but the choices can be dizzying.

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The g915vis also me handicap but base price is way over priced. But I used mine for 2 years. And I use it for work

chrome raft
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honestly it's way too pricy for what they're selling though. In terms of nice to have features, I get it, but a lot of what they are selling is just way too close to better options for the price they're aiming for

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nuphy keyboards feel affordable compared to logitech keyboards honestly

chrome raft
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here's one I'm possibly looking at building

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I'm not entirely sure if I'm actually gonna go through with it though, it seems funner to just design a pcb at the rate I'm going

north void
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looks good

chrome raft
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it just gets expensive with all the options I want

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plus those pcbs have been sold out for months now

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plus they're not even selling the pink anodized case I wanted anymore

cunning anvil
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i wanna build something with the xiao

chrome raft
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the theme orrrrrr

glass jolt
chrome raft
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it might be what I have to do honestly

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I'm looking at osh park right now

cunning anvil
chrome raft
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AAAAAAAAAAAA

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how much do you want for it

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/s

cunning anvil
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i put the wireless one in there

chrome raft
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but also not really, genuinely, how much do you want

cunning anvil
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i really have no idea

chrome raft
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fuck

cunning anvil
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i like the way it pairs rn

chrome raft
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ughhhh ok ok

cunning anvil
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if i had any issues with connectivity idve considered it, but it works

chrome raft
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it wouldn't even be the keyboard itself though, I just wanna make a pcb that fits in there

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just that damn case

cunning anvil
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ooh that could be fun

chrome raft
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ye ye, honestly you just match up the standoff locations and go ham

cunning anvil
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yeye thats a good idea actually

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shame idrc for how big it is

chrome raft
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whaaaa

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it looks so nice tho

cunning anvil
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4x10 life

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4x12 doesnt scratch that itch for me

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do agree though it very pretty

chrome raft
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I probably couldn't comfortably reach the side keys, but then that's why when designing the keys, you just make the side ones the size of the longer ones

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fuck i'm forgetting the actual unit

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gimme a sec

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found it

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you just make the edge keys a 1.5 u and it is now way more usable with the same size

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especially cause you just don't have to worry about overstretching the pinky, so in the end you'd end up typing more confidently y'know?

cunning anvil
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i use it like this

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middle 8 are mostly unused

chrome raft
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oh dang, that looks interesting for sure

sand pagoda
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But why the key order?

chrome raft
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wdym

cunning anvil
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colemak-dh mod

chrome raft
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ye ye

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mine would look slightly different, since dvorak

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but also, I can just go with stealth look and have them be all blank at that point

sand pagoda
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I mean like why the layout

chrome raft
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it's based on comfort

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I personally like the fact that I can hit all the vowels on the left hand homerow with dvorak

cunning anvil
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i like ortho purely because it bothers me less

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visually

chrome raft
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true, less chaotic

cunning anvil
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me trying to make it smaller

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38 keys is like optimal for me

chrome raft
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oh nice

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I just want to make as much layers as possible honestly

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programmer dvorak would be much nicer if I didn't have to move my hands from home row to hit the top row

cunning anvil
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i find hitting the bottom row harder than the top

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bottom legend row

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i prefer to use the premade keymap miryoku, because both programming and designing all those layers each seems like a day unto itself and i like miryoku enough to just slightly modify it and call it good

chrome raft
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that's super fair

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but in the end, the goal is to not move from the home row

cunning anvil
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have you seen asetniop?

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10 keys >:D

chrome raft
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oh god, I really wanted to try the chord typing just for the sake of having a higher wpm, but honestly it'd be too much work

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but 10 key... that sounds doable

cunning anvil
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that is the chord typing tho

chrome raft
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is it????\

cunning anvil
#

unless you mean steno

chrome raft
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I definitely mean steno for chord typing

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too many keys on steno tho

cunning anvil
sand pagoda
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Please don’t tell my friend that small keyboards that improve wpm exist because he already can do 120-ish with 100% accuracy

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He will buy one for his Mac lmao

chrome raft
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hot damn

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just tell him to use a different layout to improve speed lmfao

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it's a lie, but it's a lie he'll believe

cunning anvil
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itll cancel out

chrome raft
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and it'll make him slow as hell for a good few months

unkempt dome
chrome raft
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the brown switch experience

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hella scratchy

unkempt dome
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Box silent brown are not that scratchy

chrome raft
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fair enough

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oh also, @cunning anvil, I don't know if this'll interest you, but the choc robin switches make insanely good linears if you remove the clickbar. Probably the best low profile linears I've used

cunning anvil
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clickbar?

chrome raft
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yup, so basically, kailh doesn't do clicky switches the regular way of having the stem be two moving parts

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it just has a part sticking out and that just hits a click bar

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that's why kailh box jades switch while going down and coming back up

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anyways, the choc robins have the same thing

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I can open up one rn if you want so I can show ya

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but yeah, you can just remove that little bar

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and boom, you have a really solid linear with a pretty strong spring

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they are excellent, especially when lubed

cunning anvil
#

playing games with half a 40% and an mmo mouse is surprisingly comfy

chrome raft
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ahhhhh, yeah, that's why I gave a friend the nullbits snap, it's a good gamepad when you remove the right side

sand pagoda
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Speed I mean

chrome raft
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then steno.

cunning anvil
chrome raft
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you're using layers anyways, you'd be crazy to not have a different layout per game

cunning anvil
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i do

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and i still dont have numbers

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idk where id put em

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besides, i only have 1 gaming layer for fps's

chrome raft
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ahhhhh I see

cunning anvil
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#define MIRYOKU_LAYER_GAME \
&kp TAB,           &kp Q,             &kp W,             &kp E,             &kp R,             &kp T,             &kp NUM_1,         &kp NUM_2,         &kp NUM_3,         &kp NUM_4,         \
&kp LSHFT,         &kp A,             &kp S,             &kp D,             &kp F,             &kp G,             U_MS_L,            U_MS_D,            U_MS_U,            U_MS_R,            \
&kp ESC,           &kp Z,             &kp X,             &kp C,             &kp V,             &kp B,             &kp LBKT,          &kp COMMA,         &kp DOT,           &kp RBKT,         \
U_NP,              U_NP,              &kp LCTRL,         &kp SPC,           &kp LALT,          U_BTN2,            U_BTN1,            U_BTN3,            U_NP,              U_NP
#

thats my FPS layer

chrome raft
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qmk is wild, it looks so simple but it's such a pain to alter

cunning anvil
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i learned the bare minimum to get vial and miryoku to work

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vial is so good

chrome raft
#

I wanna try making a keyboard with a rp2040 next since I hear those are easier and more intuitive to program, but I don't know enough yet

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need to look more into it

cunning anvil
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do you wanna do integrated design or use the lil boards like rpi pico/arduino pro micro?

chrome raft
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if I'mma be putting time into doing a pcb already, may as well do integrated design

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especially since I wanna learn the esp32-c3

cunning anvil
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yeah fair

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i prefer to do them lil boards because i dont wanna solder tiny things or pay for soldering tiny things until im confident with my design

chrome raft
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oh I know I'll mess up horribly

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the plan is to beat myself up over it for 2 hours and then get to scratching some traces off so I can run some jumpers lmao

cunning anvil
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oh

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thats a plan

chrome raft
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exactly

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can't get too upset over what happens if you plan for it from the beginning

cunning anvil
#

i also like the idea of being able to switch lil boardies

chrome raft
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yeah honestly that's very nice too

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have you tried the kb2040? it's from adafruit

cunning anvil
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like, nice nano, elite pi and pro micro are sameish footprints

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nah i plan around promicro/elite footprints

cunning anvil
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oh kb2040 is pm

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niiiiice

chrome raft
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yup yup

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thought you might like it

cunning anvil
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i was gonna spring for an elite because i need the extra pins, but the kb2040 would be a good low cost

glass jolt
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Question about keyboard firmwares that work with something like VIA. What determines how many layers a keyboard can do? Is it just the memory on the chip? Can that be changed?
My K2 pro has four layers but two are reserved for Mac and two for windows. Would it be possible to merge those so I have four layers for windows?

chrome raft
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and it still has usb c to boot

chrome raft
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would you be ok with flashing qmk on that and making your own config files?

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cause if you're still using via, it won't be possible

glass jolt
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Yes

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Oh

chrome raft
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you can just flash qmk on a via board though, if I remember correctly

glass jolt
#

Is that because via expects a certain layout for a prefab board it supports?

cunning anvil
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idk if its always that straightforward, i had trouble doing that with a keychron board

glass jolt
#

Yeah I was hoping I'd be able to get more than the two layers to be honest. I would love to have a layer dedicated to something like DaVinci resolve and maybe one for programming macros

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I guess the alternative would be to change a layer based on the app you're using

chrome raft
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mmmmmmmmm, honestly it has a lot to do with how keychron set it up in the beginning. I'm not too sure of how it works and tbh I've never had the pleasure of using via cause there's nothing that works on wayland, but through qmk it should be trivial I think?

cunning anvil
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wut it works on wayland for me

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in chrome

chrome raft
#

I don't use chrome or chrome based apps

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it's why I stopped using atom lmao

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and discord

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and gui steam

sand pagoda
#

Imagine being apart of one of the more expensive hardware hobbies, lmao

glass jolt
#

Maybe I'll skip that for my keychron and so that for the helix split board I'm soldering. I think it has 4 layers

chrome raft
cunning anvil
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more not most

chrome raft
#

fucking loved making my quadcopter, but damn was that a sinkhole

glass jolt
#

I did RC off-road racing for a while. You think keyboards are expensive?

sand pagoda
#

Audio is an arguably more expensive hobby

glass jolt
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Oh yea

cunning anvil
#

are cars hardware

glass jolt
#

Audio can also be waaay technical

chrome raft
#

my only knowledge on rc stuff is fpv drones

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that was definitely the biggest money sink at that time of my life

sand pagoda
#

I almost fell into drones once

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Bought a cheap $40 one, it sucked, that was that

glass jolt
#

I ran 1/8 scale monster trucks and buggies. Fun shit launching off a 20' dirt ramp

cunning anvil
#

i wanna buy vr gear but egh i have enough hardware problems

glass jolt
#

Cheap drones are terrible

chrome raft
#

cheap drones aren't stable to begin with, so flying em sucks

sand pagoda
#

Yeah

glass jolt
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What's hard is flying RC helicopters. That shit is bonkers. But then again so is the stunt flying for those things. Absolutely bonkers what people can do with those in the air

sand pagoda
#

The helicopters imo were more stable

chrome raft
#

really????

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quadcopters are basically the pinnacle of stability for flying rc

sand pagoda
#

But I also don’t think it was exactly a cheap one

glass jolt
#

More expensive helicopters have good stabilization. But quad can be way more stable

chrome raft
#

and if you're getting into cinematography drones, octocopters are a thing as well

sand pagoda
#

The drone would go way to high (you had to keep upward pressure with this one or it would just stop) and it moved way to out of range way to fast, it crashed and fell on the roof

chrome raft
#

...

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that's usually how they work

sand pagoda
#

Yeah, it sucked

chrome raft
#

well not exactly

#

but like, with proper flying controls, you're supposed to adjust the stick as if it were a throttle

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you don't just go up and let go when you get to the height you wanna get to

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seems like you're talking about the difference between a drone with just an accelerometer and one with sensors for height and gps

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cause those are two different flying experiences

glass jolt
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If it's slowly went up on its own it's possibly the controls weren't calibrated well

sand pagoda
#

It would be nice, on a small joystick that moves with like all the sensitivity it kinda sucks, it was like all power or none

chrome raft
#

here's some good flying with a hand cam

glass jolt
#

Yeah those kinds of cheaper drones aren't that great. It's been a handful of years since I did it and ones with altitude adjustment or available in fairly cheap models

chrome raft
#

you'll see that he never drops the throttle to zero, otherwise the drone would literally drop out of the sky

sand pagoda
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Yeah, but as I said it was full or none

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It sucked

glass jolt
#

Yeah a lot of pros do that because the auto balancing stuff helps people that are newer. But when you do racing or pro level flying you don't always want those safeguards because they limit what you can do. Which is why you probably had to keep some pressure to stay vertical

cunning anvil
#

uhh keyboard design thing: whats something i can i do with like 2 pins?

chrome raft
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only two pins????

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add an io expander lmfao

cunning anvil
#

i mean i have 2 left over

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i have 11 pins, 9 for matrix, figuring out what to do with 2

chrome raft
#

lemme think

cunning anvil
#

might even bump the matrix up to 10 pins, so possibly 1 pin?

chrome raft
#

if I remember correctly, the nullbits snap had 4 pins to power and get data from the other half of the keyboard via pogo pins...

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assuming one is ground and one is power

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two would be data

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so maybe adding an entirely separate keyboard would be doable, no?

cunning anvil
#

i assume they use an io expander

chrome raft
#

yeah they definitely do

patent spruce
#

Is the keychron c1 good? It seems really cheap and has good reviews

cunning anvil
#

i mean its supposed to be a macropad so having another keyboard attach to it seems like losing sight of the goal

chrome raft
#

but an io expander might be the only way to add something interesting, unless you wanna have something simple like a rotary encoder

chrome raft
#

but that's just an opinion

cunning anvil
chrome raft
#

I think a rotary encoder in a macro pad is necessary honestly

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at least one

cunning anvil
#

yeah but 20 keys isnt enough for most games without an mmo mouse

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unless layers i mean

chrome raft
#

ah you're making it for a gaming macro pad

cunning anvil
#

maybe

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on the fence

chrome raft
#

that's a bit harder, but honestly...

#

what games do you play

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cause if you play any rhythm games, I would say to not use anything that uses qmk

cunning anvil
#

nah no rhytm

chrome raft
#

and it seems like you're gonna hand wire it

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ah ok ok ok

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yeah cause rhythm games are sometimes only playable with something that has 1k hz polling rate, and anything using qmk is stuck at like 125 if I remember correctly

cunning anvil
#

im down for pcb design

chrome raft
#

then io expander all the way

cunning anvil
#

nah

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also iirc qmk has enabled 1000 default?

chrome raft
#

not from what I've read, but I may have outdated knowledge

#

that's why I'm interested in the rp2040

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it's default 1k hz

cunning anvil
#

fair

chrome raft
#

considering there's an entire article talking about how to enable it, I'm pretty sure qmk is default 125

cunning anvil
#

yeah i only see it mentioned in some weird places, nothing official in docs

chrome raft
#

yup yup

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sooooooo, ye, don't do qmk for rhythm games

cunning anvil
#

unless is a rp2040?

chrome raft
#

rp2040 doesn't use qmk

cunning anvil
#

it can?

chrome raft
#

it can... doesn't mean you get the best performance from it

cunning anvil
#

what is recommended for rp2040 then

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zmk?

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kmk?

chrome raft
#

not entirely sure, but I've even seen people using straight up circuitpython because it was easier to flash than using qmk

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since you know, you just drag and drop

cunning anvil
#

qmk is also drag and drop??

#

for rp2040 at least

chrome raft
#

deadass?

cunning anvil
#

something like it

chrome raft
#

oh yeah that's not what I'm talking about

cunning anvil
#

looks a bit hacky

#

depends on having a shield/board combo

chrome raft
#

like, the one I saw was that even while the keyboard was running, you just drag and drop

cunning anvil
#

yeah

chrome raft
#

no boot/reset button needing to be held down

cunning anvil
#

yea

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or you mean not even needs to be pressed

glass jolt
#

man i wish my k2 came with a dongle to go with bluetooth. makes good use of my kvm switch to go between work/home pc's

cunning anvil
#

is it like a key combo

chrome raft
#

no no, no key combo, you just drag and drop onto the directory for the keyboard like it's a usb

cunning anvil
#

this is similar

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but looks a lil

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involved

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but nothing id use circuitpython over

chrome raft
#

lemme look up the person I was watching

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also, bluetooth dongles don't exactly work well with kvm switches if I remember correctly, since they just add the bluetooth capabilities to the computer, from there you just connect to the keyboard like as if the computer already had bluetooth. unless you're talking about a 2.4ghz receiver

#

cause those two are completely different

#

the 2.4ghz receiver would definitely work with what you want

cunning anvil
#

yoooo i also made a snappable board

chrome raft
#

ah ok ok ok

glass jolt
#

yea byt the k2 pro doesnt have the 2.4 built in. only wired and BT

cunning anvil
#

@chrome raft

chrome raft
#

that's sick as hell

glass jolt
#

how? i mean there probably is. do you know of a guide for that? i will look for one.

cunning anvil
#

unfortunately the thumb clusters are too far apart and now i have extras

chrome raft
glass jolt
#

lol. idk about that. id have to see if my adhd lets me.

chrome raft
#

I get ya, the struggle is real

#

also, this is a good reminder to get back to work, I burned 3 hours talking on here, I gotta get this server running by today

#

laters ya'll, you'll likely never see me on here ever again

cunning anvil
#

wondering if im willing to settle on 11u width :/

#

oh

#

"Any firmware built after 0.16 or Feb 25, 2022 will have 1k hz polling rate" hmm

#

gonna have to dig for a source ig

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found the source!

#

its canon!

#

still not 8k but hey

past vortex
#

Just bc hangs it to .1;)

#

Like if you used a teensy ; you could probable get to 4k

glass jolt
#

Ugh

#

When you realize you're a out to spend $260 on keycaps and switches. Multiple sets.

#

I guess this is a hobby isn't it

#

Any know of some good shine through mx caps that won't break the bank?

cunning anvil
#

translucent blanks? lol

sand pagoda
#

I personally would spend $260 on a cpu for a pc lmao

glass jolt
#

Lol. Not that much shine through

sand pagoda
#

Especially when you already have a keyboard and don’t have a pc, but that’s just me

glass jolt
#

Same

cunning anvil
#

ooh i wonder if i should build a wireless split with nrf seeduinos

#

enough pins for 40 keys and encoders

#

charging sounds like pain tho actually

glass jolt
#

I don't need more computers. 5 is enough

#

Lol.

sand pagoda
#

Thank you for offering me one

#

I have a laptop lol

cunning anvil
#

can never have enough computers

glass jolt
#

2 are mini micro PCs running home assistant, and the other isn't running yet. Then a Nas, personal PC, work issues Mac book.

#

Idk what to run on the other mini pc yet

#

Wait no I have 6. One is running my router. Opnsense

sand pagoda
#

Jobs, smh

#

I wish

glass jolt
#

Yea jobs be tough sometimes

#

What do you do

cunning anvil
#

jobs hurt my face

sand pagoda
glass jolt
#

My bank likes my job though. So do my bills

cunning anvil
#

same

sand pagoda
#

If I had a job, I would also have a computer

cunning anvil
#

unless you also have bills

sand pagoda
#

I do not

#

Rent free with my parents

cunning anvil
#

nice

sand pagoda
#

Still in school and sports take up after that, I have no time for a job yet

#

Summer I will though

amber tartan
#

masculine urge to open a super tucked away keyboard store in an alley way and sell the rarest boards and custom build service

boreal rivet
#

Then go out of business in 2 weeks

autumn agate
#

waga

#

Sana tkl looking hot af

amber tartan
amber tartan
glossy sandal
#

the guga

amber tartan
#

walmart doesnt go out of business in 2 weeks

glossy sandal
#

ohhhhhh

#

Hi nightpie!!!

#

hi mx!!!!

amber tartan
#

halo

#

reach

glossy sandal
amber tartan
#

voice mini tini tiny martini

glossy sandal
#

Harbor65 Harba Hubba Harba

autumn agate
amber tartan
autumn agate
#

Keycult, wiewolt , cream bolt, burger with fry

amber tartan
#

whooper

autumn agate
glass jolt
#

what are some good split keyboards with wireless? either bluetooth or 2.4ghz

sleek bronze
#

Wireless 2.4Ghz is super rare and you kind of need to make it yourself

Do you want an off the shelf keyboard or do you want to go the diy route? @glass jolt

#

How many keys, concave or not ?

glass jolt
#

prefer kit, but either is fine.

#

yea, just bluetooth is fine.

#

just being hopeful to be able to use a dongle lol

sleek bronze
#

Off the shelf I would recommend kinesis advantage or glove80

Diy there are just dozens of options, dépends on what you seek, the most known would be kyria, corne and sweep I guess

glass jolt
#

im considering the sofle rgb, but it doesn't have wireless it looks like. though I have seen others make it wireless, im just not sure how.

sleek bronze
#

Also depends on if you want small and portable, ultra low profile
Or concave full ergo etc

glass jolt
#

i prefer low profile over portable. planning on using low profile kailh chocs

sleek bronze
#

Most known keebs have their PCB compatible with all that

glass jolt
#

that kenesis ... looks ... like its from a scifi movie. not sure i would ever go with that.

sleek bronze
#

Haha

glass jolt
#

i have ssen the kyria, looks nice

sleek bronze
#

The glove80 is an off the shelf kinesis-like with choc switches, but it's not really low profile

glass jolt
#

concave would be interesting, im not sure about that. but might try it. I do kind of want an ortho layout too.

sleek bronze
#

If you don't want to dig too far, splitkb sells kit that reduce all the thinking behind all of this

sleek bronze
glass jolt
#

hah im on their site now. looking at their lily58 build.

sleek bronze
#

But all of what we talked about is columnar staggered

glass jolt
#

ah, yea. thats what i mean. more columnar. similar to say how the lily58 is

#

yea, good deal.

sleek bronze
#

It doesn't have a lot of stagger
Do you have small or big hands ?

#

From my experience if you have really small hands you need way more stagger

#

With big hands that's way less of a problem because your pinky reaches everything anyway

glass jolt
#

probably normal sized hands i feel

#

ooh, yea kyria. i do think i want one more row than that. so being able to also have numbers/function row. im a developer so i odn't want to limit the keys too much. i like somewhere between 65-75%

sleek bronze
#

I'm a dev too i use a 34keys keyboard

glass jolt
#

seems so odd lol. i almost feel like it's too different to normal keyboards heh. they look cool though

sleek bronze
#

if you go the split route you have to adapt more than just splitting your keyboard in two imo

glass jolt
#

oh for sure. i meant beyond the familiarization of that. which is why im keeping my normal keyboard for now.

sleek bronze
#

you have to start using layers and such

Especially for random keys such as fn keys

Layers are incredibly easy to access with the thumb cluster, that's the whole point

glass jolt
#

yea, true

sleek bronze
#

And honestly i'm way happier to have a numpad-like fn layers under the hand without having to move, it's faster

glass jolt
#

yea, i was planning on doing that anyways.

#

how long did it take to get used to a 3 row keyboard?

#

for development

sleek bronze
#

I also went full on colemak mode

#

And vim

#

And archlinux

#

And tiling wm

#

Sooooooo

#

Yeah it took some time to say the least

glass jolt
#

ah. i don't use vim but i use vim bindings everywhere i can

#

i love arch. though i usually use manjaro for desktop

#

i used i3 for about a year?

sleek bronze
#

I use qtile

#

To get back on topic, I don't know what you do

glass jolt
#

yea ive heard good things about that too. but i got tired of the constant tweaking it.

sleek bronze
#

But 4 raw is enough imo

glass jolt
#

yea id be ok with 4 rows

#

im a software dev and getting into some video editing (davinci resolve)

sleek bronze
#

You don't use fn keys enough for them to warrant a dedicated row, also a fifth row would be super far away to reach so...

#

It would be more comfy to just have them in a layer, under the thumb in a numpad way

glass jolt
#

yea i agree. i would use the fn row for a lot of macros to be honest

sleek bronze
#

But yeah, a split kb kit is a good starter, no need to think about the pcb, the components compatibilities etc

glass jolt
#

yea, im more looking for layout. i like the knobs on the lily58 and Corne

sleek bronze
#

But do note that their choc kit does not have choc spacing

#

Knobs are super gimmicky haha

glass jolt
#

the corne though, feel like it needs 1 or 2 more thumb keys?

#

oh i know

sleek bronze
#

I only use two thumbs keys on my corne ^^

glass jolt
#

i would find it useful in video editing though.

sleek bronze
#

it's not analogic

#

anyway, thumbs are short and not super dexterous, too many thumbs key isn't that great

glass jolt
#

fair

sleek bronze
#

Could be great for maccros I guess, but for general use ... not really imo

glass jolt
#

i guess it also depends on how many layers you have

#

they keychron i tried only had 2 layers.

#

which was a letdown

sleek bronze
#

You can program as many layers as you want to

#

also there is more than just "layers"

#

hold layers, one shot layers, tap-hold keys, home row mods, combos...

glass jolt
#

how would I add more layers? the keychrons have 4 layers but 2 dedicated each to mac and pc

#

based on the switch position

sleek bronze
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Those keyboards are QMK based (zmk for wireless)

glass jolt
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oh interesting.

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yea

sleek bronze
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You can configure it through code (it's easy, even for non dev people)

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it's like a list of matrices representing your keyboard

glass jolt
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yea, makes sense

sleek bronze
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And you have keys that say "go to matrix number x" and each matrix is a layer

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And the way the key works can be different

glass jolt
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sounds like a stream deck on steroids hah

sleek bronze
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For example my backspace key does backspace when tapped and symbol layer when held

glass jolt
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nice.

sleek bronze
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My "n" and "t" (index finger home row on colemak) do n and t when tapped and shift when held

glass jolt
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do you have any articles or something showing how to do that manually? going to look it up too

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interesting.

sleek bronze
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Hum I never tried zmk yet (the wireless one) but I have general things in mind yeah

glass jolt
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sounds like it took a long time to get that all down

sleek bronze
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Like first the doc, they are super great

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For home row mods

glass jolt
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awesome.

sleek bronze
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This doen't cover layers

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Splitkb blog can be cool too

glass jolt
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great thanks

sleek bronze
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(remember qmk is wired, zmk wireless, but the ideas are the same)

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Also for each keyboard you have a list of default keymaps that work okay with already some layers etc

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That are in the official qmk repo (again wired, sorry never tried zmk yet)

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Example for corne

glass jolt
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oh neat

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i think i would like the kyria a little more since it has just a few more keys

glass jolt
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apparently the nice!nano is sold out everywhere. dang

autumn agate
sleek bronze
glass jolt
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ah. yea it is there, i think i meant in the US. ordering there is international shipping. trying to find a place in the us

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looks like keebmaker has them

sleek bronze
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Oh yeah ok

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You should not live in the us

glass jolt
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lol.

sleek bronze
glass jolt
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everywhere has their issues.

sleek bronze
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Look at all those links

glass jolt
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yea when i looked most were out

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wtf its showing like 3 more store links now. i looked like 10 minutes ago

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oooh. shoot.

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i meant the nice view display. my bad

sleek bronze
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Oh

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You don't really need it

glass jolt
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oh i know. totally more for fun lol

autumn agate
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Any thockers here

sleek bronze
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yeah i'm thocking hard

autumn agate
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🫶

viscid tapir
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real or fake

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hmmm

muted karma
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should be real

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those apparently have the winglatch style housings

viscid tapir
muted karma
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wdym

viscid tapir
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to open with switch opener

muted karma
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the winglatch is the "kailh style" one

viscid tapir
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yes this is whta i mean thank you

muted karma
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there is no gateron style

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they just use the one from cherry

viscid tapir
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i know but they use different ones gateron uses the one from cherry right

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aaa

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yes

muted karma
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also kailh sometimes also uses that KEKW

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on the cream switches for example

viscid tapir
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yes but not on all

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i got my switch tester with this one was really hard to open

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i ordered switch opener for this

muted karma
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which one

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the kailh one?

viscid tapir
muted karma
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yea

viscid tapir
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this one is even cheaper

muted karma
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for kailh style housings I would recommend a metal opener

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with the other ones you can get away with like a screwdriver or even a 3d printed opener

viscid tapir
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i doubt these will work right

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but i hear those housings are way tighter so less wobble

muted karma
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the top one works

viscid tapir
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was trying to decide between milky red and ktt white