#peripherals

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flint ivy
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And straight cable always the way to go

wind shell
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Whats a nice tkl wireless barebones kit available in the EU?

floral agate
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100-150

turbid flicker
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hi, am i allowed to ask something about my keyboard here?

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more of a support question

viscid tapir
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and how does that help

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when you use your keyboard

glossy sandal
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Keychron Q1 comes with a plate by default

balmy bone
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Can anyone tell me a good wireless keyboard with scroll wheel rgb per key

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And

glossy sandal
plucky rivet
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Is it possible for me to turn a QWERTY keyboard into a DVORAK keyboard or a ABCDEF keyboard and have it work in Windows as if it were a native DVORAK keyboard?

opaque shard
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You just need to choose DVORAK layout in the Windows settings

autumn nacelle
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anyone have a recommendation for a silent gaming keyboard? I hate hearing the click of my current one

blissful dragon
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like gateron reds or something

autumn nacelle
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sadly its not 😦

grizzled quiver
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Brand new keeb

gloomy patrol
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hype

amber tartan
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(over)hype

autumn agate
glossy sandal
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exited

autumn agate
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Fuck autocorrect ihatefrance

glossy sandal
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🤕

amber tartan
autumn agate
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thats fine

flint ivy
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i dont ever seeing myself buying one but ive heard good things about them

glossy sandal
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errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm it's a tray mount, the only thing good about it is that's it's using hall effect linear switches manufactuireed byu gateron, they arten't contact based so they're smoother than regaular

pine flower
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I'm waiting for my new switches to get here (crystal kailh pink and navy) but this is my current keeb

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My camera setting skills are left to be desired though. All the types of light makes things a bit difficult sad

sturdy hatch
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I just got the gmk67 and gateron milky yellows

sleek bronze
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@pine flower is that a desk mat?

amber tartan
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i hope it is

pine flower
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marble would be way too hard x)

muted karma
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for some games rapid trigger is an absolute gamechanger

viscid tapir
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anyone here knows where i could buy ktt strawberries in europe

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if not i will just get them from aliexpress

marsh scarab
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Royal Kludge keyboards

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Tempted to buy them ack

viscid tapir
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eu vendors sell them for 58eur 90 switches

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but on aliexpress they sell for 21eur 90 switches

marsh scarab
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I see them

muted karma
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look like the 2 eu vendors are oos

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but on mykeyboard they are 4,50, not a good deal to begin with

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ah, eloquentclicks has some

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similar price

viscid tapir
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idk if it is legit but looks like it

muted karma
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DAMN

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on sale rn

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nah wait

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can you link me

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found "KBDiy Strawberries" but they are a different switch

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these are 34,59€ for me (with VAT)

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but the KBDiy ones have a different housing

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with the kailh "Winglatch" style clip

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so easy to differentiate

marsh scarab
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Still running the 6 dollar mechanical keyboard

muted karma
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cheapest I got was 13,48

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for a new one

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that board sucks btw, don't buy it

marsh scarab
muted karma
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send an image lol

viscid tapir
marsh scarab
viscid tapir
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but idk if they are good clones or bad clones

marsh scarab
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Okay it looks like this and it's not 6 it's like 18 dollars lol

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I forgot the pricing

muted karma
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why look for ktt strawberries if you buy a different switch

marsh scarab
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But essentially this thing is just running on brown switches.

I can hot swap them

muted karma
muted karma
marsh scarab
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Yee, bought it because it's cheap and has the f row keys

muted karma
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those cheap boards use sockets that are essentially proprietary for outemu/gaote switches

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since they have slimmer pins

viscid tapir
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they said they are cheap but clearly not as cheap as gateron

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any recommendations based on that

marsh scarab
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I mean I was either gonna buy a mouse or keyboard (wireless) just a few hours ago

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Ended up with the mouse because.

I hate trackpads

viscid tapir
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i like light tactile with bump in the middle like brown or linear not too light or heavy more light but with decent return

muted karma
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why would you buy a wireless keyboard

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never understood that

marsh scarab
viscid tapir
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but some people like mobility and no wires

marsh scarab
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And if I have to reach over to my desk to type in stuff. Then why bother laying down and being comfortable than to sit on my uncomfortable chair

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And I am also running out of wires around here and would prefer wireless stuff if I can

muted karma
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ig

marsh scarab
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Because "if it works it works" is a standard I'm fine with

I could have gotten a wired mouse. But I am afraid of rats finding it and chewing them out

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Thats how my Ethernet cable got destroyed

viscid tapir
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damn

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you got rats

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pets or not

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tho

marsh scarab
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Not

Not the silly kind that I like

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The kind that chews up clothes and wires

viscid tapir
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ah that sucks

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man

boreal rivet
# viscid tapir

This has to be one of the worst tier lists I’ve ever had the displeasure of seeing

viscid tapir
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and all tier lists are based on subjectivity so you are not able to objectively judge them just like colors you will never be able to prove red is superior color to green

boreal rivet
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👆 KEKW

viscid tapir
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you do realize your ignorance and immaturity just shows how pathetic you are

boreal rivet
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Stay mad

viscid tapir
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for what some kid on discord getting offended by my tier list haha xd

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bro got so mad over my tier list he blocked me

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good at least no more toxicity from him

chrome raft
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Gotta be mad weird for that ngl

viscid tapir
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i guess it is insecurity to try and gatekeep

chrome raft
viscid tapir
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it is not even worth arguing but this is internet but you can see people like these in daily life too

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i say live and let live just enjoy what you enjoy and see other tastes as they are subjective everyone should enjoy what they like that takes nothing from you just like everyone hates on brown switches and then you ask them why they have no idea how to respond

boreal rivet
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is that your alt LOL

chrome raft
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Huh?

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Are you good?

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Who hurt you?

muted karma
boreal rivet
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rent free much? 💀

viscid tapir
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i just wanted to share how i like them since i am looking for new recommendations for new switches

muted karma
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yea it's so subjective it should be ignored though KEKW

viscid tapir
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i respect all opinions as long as they are seen as subjective

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because there is no right or wrong in subjectivity

muted karma
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it's stupidly limited though

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why just compare kailh switches with each other

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also not even all of the ones you can get atm

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these are great completely unmodded btw

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if you could get them PepeHands

boreal rivet
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whats up with haimu

chrome raft
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Like? How much attention do you require on a daily basis to satisfy your needs?

boreal rivet
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?

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you're projecting pretty hard there buddy

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though I'm not surprised seeing how stupid you are

hollow charm
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I like membrane keyboards

muted karma
boreal rivet
boreal rivet
muted karma
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uhhh

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obscure chinese company that popped out of nowehre

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and got confused with huano

boreal rivet
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I don’t really keep up with the hobby and they seem to have just showed up?

hollow charm
muted karma
boreal rivet
muted karma
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to be fair having similar easier to pronounce names is nothing new for chinese companies

boreal rivet
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These names are actually just Chinese words romanised

muted karma
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not always

muted karma
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gaote for example

boreal rivet
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If you pronounce them using pinyin they sound wildly different

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Gao te is romanised I’m pretty sure

muted karma
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to outemu

boreal rivet
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Ah lol

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Yeah there are exceptions

muted karma
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also with how newer chinese companies are called it would make sense to use a different brand for foreign markets

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since they seem like bs long names to outsiders

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like would you rather buy from Guangdong Ruixun Electronic Technology Co., Ltd

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or just raesha

cunning anvil
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id buy from ruixun

boreal rivet
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they can just use ruixin though

muted karma
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they used lightstrike before

boreal rivet
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its not like people see apple as Apple Incorporated

muted karma
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raesha is a newer name actually

muted karma
muted karma
boreal rivet
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🤷 it’s their choice ye

boreal rivet
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Or you mean just stuff that isn’t an optical encoder

muted karma
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encoders and pots are not the same

muted karma
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they used to make optical ones

boreal rivet
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I associate pots and encoders with each other because pots can be used in the same way as encoders albeit with some extra work required

muted karma
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they can't though

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while they both gather rotational data

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they do in very different ways

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a pot gives you an absolute position

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an encoder gives you a relative rotation with a very limited granularity

boreal rivet
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you can do relative position on a pot using some clever circuit design and an ADC

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you'll still be physically limited by the pot but it kinda works

muted karma
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to get one that can do more than one rotation you need a pot that is actually two pots lol

boreal rivet
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pots with two independent wipers do exist

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i think a stax amp uses that

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muted karma
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that is a reg pot

boreal rivet
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outer ring is independent

muted karma
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yea

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but you can't "overturn" them

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an encoder can keep turning in one direction forever essentially

boreal rivet
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I never said you could

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but you can make a pot emulate that with software

muted karma
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no

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you need a special pot

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that has 2 wipers

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and has them not locked

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so you can read out two signals

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and combine them to an absolute position

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at that point wtf are you doing

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just use a hall effect pot

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or encoder

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same thing for those really

boreal rivet
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by emulate I mean have the turning signal keep going at each end lol

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you would be surprised at the lengths some people go for audio

muted karma
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wdym

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but at that point the emulation is digital

boreal rivet
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when you reach the max/min position of the pot have the turn signal continue

muted karma
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yea but like

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just use an encoder

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at that point

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or any other method

boreal rivet
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i agree

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but someone has done that lol

muted karma
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that can actually turn further than one rotation

boreal rivet
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this uses a pot for both volume control and menu control

muted karma
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I mean I get a pot for amps

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you get a pure digital signal

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so you don't need any digital part in your entire chain

boreal rivet
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it makes sense once you read about it

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sure the guy could've just used a encoder for the menu control but it saves space and costs less for the diyer

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of course this is a niche as shit application

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and im not saying you should use a pot in encoder applications lol

muted karma
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How does it save space wtf

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Encoders are tiny

boreal rivet
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space is space man

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and if it works

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why not

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its a win win situation either way

muted karma
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No like

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They are smaller than pots

boreal rivet
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Yes and they still take up space

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Implementing a mounting hole increases design time and manufacturing cost even if it is little

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Actually installing it takes time too

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In any case his intention of using the pot for menu control instead of a separate encoder was probably because he could lol

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And it works so I really don’t see the issue here

viscid tapir
viscid tapir
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because i am looking for either light linear that are very smooth in stock or light tactile with tactility in the middle and those are really hard to find

muted karma
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you are aware that GOOD springs are very cheap?

viscid tapir
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yes but why would i buy new springs if i can buy new switches

hollow charm
viscid tapir
muted karma
viscid tapir
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i am not even able to hear ping in springs so idk

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unlubed and lubed both feel the same to me

muted karma
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imo yellows have a nicer force curve

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but they cost more

viscid tapir
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just looking for something between red and black because red are perfect for typing but black have much better return and are snappy for gaming and slow presses

muted karma
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oh

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get tellows then

viscid tapir
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i have pro milky yellow switches at home but bad batch

muted karma
viscid tapir
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they bind and are very sticky

muted karma
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the pro version has some factory lube

viscid tapir
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yes pro version is really scratchy and sticky for me but it is probably bad batch

muted karma
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huh

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odd

viscid tapir
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you know like mushy like soda is spilled on them

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so idk do i get new yellow switches or get something else this time but idk if i can find anything people told me to get kang or strawberry but they cost triple

river ermine
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can u guys make this up for me Redragon k617 or k630?...Ik these are cheap keyboards but i want to know which is better

viscid tapir
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also if i get gateron i would probably get milky housing to have muted but idk nylon or milky

muted karma
river ermine
muted karma
river ermine
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i like the looks of 630 but the keycaps are better on the k617

muted karma
viscid tapir
muted karma
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also pretty sure they are the same keycaps just different colors

viscid tapir
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why is red switch floaty compared to black is it because of spring weight and resistance

muted karma
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yes

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yellows compensate that

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with a longer spring

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which makes them tighter at the top end

viscid tapir
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because when i press black slowly it moves smoothly but red is fine for slamming but pushing slowly it keeps skipping the distance like falling probably too soft of a spring right

viscid tapir
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when i try to press red down i am not able to consistently slowly press them because they are so soft so they just bottom out but black i am able to push down slowly because they have more resistance

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red are very soft or light on top and actuation but fine at bottom out

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i am not able to push red down slowly because they are so soft but they are great for typing

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i am not able to use pretravel on them

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because it is so soft on very top

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you know black are fine to press down slowly because of resistance but red are great for typing but not to use pretravel because as soon as you try you accidentally actuate them if you know what i mean

muted karma
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idk why you would wanna press them slowly when gaming

river ermine
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guys i found a used g613 for 50 bucks

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should i go for it?

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or should i buy a redragon

muted karma
river ermine
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dont understand

muted karma
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it has horrible switches

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that like to fail

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the boards are a pain to disassemble and use horrible solder

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so replacing a switch isn't easy

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and the keycaps like to break when you pull them off

viscid tapir
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i actually quite liked uvi and logitech keyboards

river ermine
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damn

muted karma
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romer g is bad enough to be discontinued for a WHILE now

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on logitechs end at least

river ermine
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So ill get the redragon?

viscid tapir
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romer g does not feel premium but romer g gives me the highest wpm

muted karma
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was the highest for me

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although modded black SKCM blacks are also pretty high up there for me

viscid tapir
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but i hear some people really like them and some really hate them

muted karma
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pepeThonk you can usually get them for like 150-200€ here

viscid tapir
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i paid 160eur for my v3

muted karma
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main reason why I don't like them is that modding them is an absolute pain

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also modding topre gets expensive quick

sturdy hatch
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Does this keyboard sound good? Gmk67 and gateron milky yellows. I’m going to holee mod the stabs and lube them and then lube the switches. And I’ll tape the bottom of thr pcb

viscid tapir
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i usually do not mod anything

muted karma
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you can easily get in the hundreds just in mods KEKW

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without case swaps

viscid tapir
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is yong selling original krytox

muted karma
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yong?

viscid tapir
muted karma
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dunno who/what that is

viscid tapir
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it is a chinese shop for keyboards

muted karma
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just makes stabs mushy

viscid tapir
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i buy cheap xda keycaps there usually since they have no shipping

muted karma
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price seems about okay

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dunno why you would want 205g0 in a dropper

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way too viscous for that

sturdy hatch
viscid tapir
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thing is all eu vendors for me have 15eur or 20eur shipping

muted karma
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just learn how to lube right

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you can get stabs that aren't fundamentally flawed to be perfect with just 205g0

viscid tapir
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idk if i trust myself lubing

muted karma
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xht-bdz if you are lazy

viscid tapir
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i thought about trying many times

muted karma
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idk, it is mainly a mundane task

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only thing you should be concious of is that less is usually better

sturdy hatch
viscid tapir
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i have plenty of time to lube

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problem is my ocd is giving me anxiety to do such delicate things

obtuse sphinx
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i think im gonna have to agree with plouffe that the silent switches aren't very satisfying. i have to have some sort of click to know that what i've pressed has gona through..and also the clicks are just satisfying

unkempt dome
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Click is a sound

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What you are talking about is tactile response

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Also if you bottom them they have registered unless they are broken

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And if you don't bottom them then there's not much use in getting silenced switches ...

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Also there's silenced tactile switches like boba u4 and kailh silent box brown and probably some others ...

viscid tapir
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in english click is a sound but in my language click is a feel

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i guess a lot of people use click to explain tactility for the same reason

unkempt dome
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No not really

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You're the second one I see here to do that

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Switches are clicky, tactile and linear ...
Not clicky with sound, click without sound and linear ... it's just confusing to everybody when the proper terms are not used

viscid tapir
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i am talking about dictionary in my language click here is different than click in english but both are said the same way

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many people use the word click as press

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clicky is a popular term that is mostly associated with switches that produce a clicky sound and have tactility in them

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but they were not created as clicky switches in the beginning the word clicky prevailed because it was most commonly used by community which is just widely accepted but not set in stone

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when someone says click the button what do you do

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do you make a sound click or do you press it

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it is not confusing to anyone

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it is just people try to gatekeep terms

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i still remember terms in my english college classes where it said "click the button"

sand pagoda
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Click means both to me

viscid tapir
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yes it is a synonym

cunning anvil
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that is to say when people say click ambiguously

viscid tapir
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it is simple click is a synonym it means "press" and it means "sound"

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idk why people try to be so closed minded to terms

cunning anvil
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yes that part i get, i mean when people say it

viscid tapir
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i do understand click within the context of this framework of switches is different than click in grammatical and book framework

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but it is not hard to understand people who are new to this thing are usually gonna be using english terms rather than switch terms

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people still call teal blue

cunning anvil
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what's wrong with that

viscid tapir
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but some people see teal as teal but it is still within the category of blue

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just saying it is not black and white it is not right or wrong it is dark gray and light gray

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people seem to gatekeep and not accept any new opinions idk why people have problems and need to all of the sudden unleash their insecurities upon other people

cunning anvil
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i didn't mean it that way

viscid tapir
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not you but a lot of people do always when i see someone new it is better to explain it to them and understand try be open minded but i see people lash out and attack new members how they are too stupid to learn terms and i do not thing this is helpful approach

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each community has elitists same with old school metalheads not letting new bands play it is really narrow minded

autumn agate
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@cunning anvil hey dude

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Don’t worry about revan

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He is just sometimes very rude and extremely toxic for no reason

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Best you can do is just ignore his rants

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Idk why he’s going on about elitism for no reason what so ever, I think he’s just mad about how he got banned from another keyboard server for being toxic

gritty ibex
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what's the crunchiest cheapest fully mechanical 60% keeb on amazon

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i want to be obnoxious in discord calls lmao

pseudo owl
autumn agate
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100% foolproof way to get kicked from discord calls

sturdy hatch
gritty ibex
sturdy hatch
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💀

gritty ibex
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pink

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wont match anything in my setup

sturdy hatch
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That’ll do it

boreal rivet
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MageGee is a name for sure 🫡

autumn agate
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bros scheming over here

sturdy hatch
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I’m getting a gmk delivered soon with some milky yellows and really cheap keycaps linusPerfect

gritty ibex
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god this thing's gonna be so crunchy lmfao

lament holly
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Do y’all like my keyboard

ionic briar
sand pagoda
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I wish it was Lego so someone could step on it

chrome raft
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What does this mean

neat slate
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What keyboard does Linus use???

chrome raft
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Or ak61

unkempt dome
unkempt dome
sand pagoda
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We mostly say press, but click would work in some cases

drifting mauve
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I think I just made the perfect zero compromise layout (for my needs at least)

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Wait I just realized I basically made a 17" laptop keyboard 💀

gloomy patrol
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wait

gloomy patrol
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ik a guy who uses that

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it looked weirdly familiar

drifting mauve
# gloomy patrol

Lmao, Yeah a little different tho
I put a full size shift but its not in the standard position
Also full size enter and + on the num pad
Nice keeb tho!

gloomy patrol
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yea it looks like yours is 1u longer

drifting mauve
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Very fun legend on the key caps
I like you're dedicated division and times key

gloomy patrol
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oh no its not mine

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i would run the layout if I ever got the board

gloomy patrol
drifting mauve
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oh you know a guy*!

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I read that wrong

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I like *the dedicated division and times key

gloomy patrol
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its a fun layout

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esp considering this was a 75 at first

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oh wait yours is p much a compact 96

drifting mauve
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Yeah
I would just get a 96 but I really want the full size shift
The small shift never grew on me as long as ive known about it

gloomy patrol
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i feel like most people don't use the normal right shift enough to care

drifting mauve
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Honesty true, I hardly ever use it either, It just looks funky to me

echo holly
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It literally says its arrived at departure transport hub

amber tartan
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omg keyboard ship next monday :DDDDD

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so excited for 2 weeks then it comes in broken and i then ask for refund

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waste of 600 dollars

viscid tapir
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easiest way to ask them is if they talk about silent or quiet clicky switches this is what i observed how beginners usually describe them

honest plinth
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Wah

raven finch
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there is one keyboard i forgot the name of... but it has like a huge analog glock on the back of it which looks super cool, ofc sold out but it was like around 400-500$? I think but I forgot the name

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something with time i believe it was called but couldnt find anything

viscid tapir
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haha

amber tartan
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he means clock

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its the Time80

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my friend has one

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pretty underrated

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@raven finch

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the clock doesnt work btw, its just a print

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my friend's board

raven finch
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wow it looks really sick

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nice one

boreal rivet
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original one was better

chrome raft
unkempt dome
amber tartan
viscid tapir
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start using your head of how people think rather than follow crowd mentality and gatekeeping the words

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this is why many new members usually leave because no one explains it to them you just attack them

amber tartan
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lmao gatekeeping the words

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i love you so much

viscid tapir
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imagine being so offended by new member calling tactile switches clicky switches

amber tartan
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brings me a smile no one has before

viscid tapir
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this is all i have to say if you want to unleash your insecurities to new members go ahead

glossy sandal
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:3

viscid tapir
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i am not gonna waste my time again on this nonsense

amber tartan
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holy shit we should totally get married

glossy sandal
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hi nightpie

amber tartan
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hai

glossy sandal
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hi dark lord revan

viscid tapir
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yea

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sup

amber tartan
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are there brass keyboards made of bullet casings

boreal rivet
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revan is like the king of uninvited ad hominems

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dude just comes at you for no reason

unkempt dome
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Yeah I see that

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Attacking people and such

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Really a nice guy

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As the following the crowd mentality ... he couldn't be that more wrong about me ...

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Also if there's someone willing to explain stuff it's probably me ... I've explained 2 or 3 time now and it's just not sinking in I guess ...

glass karma
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Hey I want to buy / build a Keyboard. Problem is I think about getting Glorious GMMK Pro Problem is I don't now if like or feel comfortable with a 75% tlk keyboard. And I have never tried a custom keyboard

hollow wagon
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75 feels cramped to me

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I far prefer a TKL

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BUT I have a 75 I use when I'm space constrained

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I got used to it for sure, but it isn't my first choice. YMMV.

urban panther
sand pagoda
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Hey navy

hollow wagon
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When I work at home, I have my main KB on my main monitor and it's a TKL. On one side I have a second monitor and my personal PC is on that (main monitor is run through a KVM).

So a 75% sits on my right with a second mouse. a TKL wouldn't fit and leave mousing space

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But that is a VERY limited use case. I wouldn't take a 75% for daily use by choice.

viscid tapir
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60 and 65 are far too small for me

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i like anything but normal v1 version with knob

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idk why but unsymmetrical arrows on 75 kill me also i like tofu65 far more than zoom65 because of that small gap

hollow wagon
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KBD75 has normal arrows

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The KBD75 honestly was the only 75 I considered. You lose the R Win key. You lose two keys from the ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdn cluster and that's it

honest plinth
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Any good mac supported keyboards?

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Because my current keyboard is the basic one you get put of a he box

weak pewter
pseudo owl
#

Good afternoon keyboards

pseudo owl
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Go for like

sand pagoda
#

Hey

pseudo owl
raven finch
chilly rover
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what is the best low travel distance tactile switch

gloomy patrol
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green jackets

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there is no best

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but green jackets gud

balmy bronze
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Or any long pole stem tactiles like Tecsee Purple Panda

amber tartan
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gotta give it to designers of gmk blot, that is some badass marketing

verbal anvil
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Where to get an Anne Pro 2? Its always unavailable!

polar barn
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I have a Cynosa Chroma, but they keys dont seem to want to pop off. Is it just hard to pull off or will I break these keys?

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From Razr

verbal anvil
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You might break them

polar barn
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Which one? Mind you I don't really know that much on peripherals, I don't need anything fancy. I thought this was a good one

viscid tapir
#

finally managed to record and upload not big enough file of binding

boreal rivet
pseudo owl
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Here’s one of their many options

viscid tapir
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i like v3

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tkl

sand pagoda
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How does this 2006 keyboard make you feel

pseudo owl
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Well it’s not membrane as far as I can see

sand pagoda
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It is…

pseudo owl
sand pagoda
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And I games on that

river wharf
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Are there cheaper switches that sound like the u4t bobas I’m alr spending 300 on the zoom 75

sand pagoda
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I can recommend you a decent keyboard discord too, if you need an immediate response there’s always someone there

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Because I personally wouldn’t know

sand pagoda
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Can’t send it here, I could DM it though

opal snow
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that works

ancient jay
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Is SteelSeries Apex 3 any good?

ionic briar
#

glorified rubber dome for a quick cash grab

ancient jay
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So, no?

ionic briar
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yea
like i respect you if you want a rubber dome, but this is just a scam

ancient jay
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Right

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Any mechanical recommendations?

ionic briar
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i think there is some akko options for that price

ancient jay
#

Says it's unavailable

ionic briar
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where are you from?

ancient jay
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Kyrgyzstan

ionic briar
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oh no wonder

ancient jay
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Pretty bad place for anything computer related

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Straight up no amd GPUs

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Anyway

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What about the G413?

ionic briar
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it is mechanical
the feel is kinda ehhh, but at least its not gonna have the mushy feeling when you bottomed out the key

ancient jay
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I'll keep looking then

ionic briar
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if finding good value things are too hard for you, just get the g413

ancient jay
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For a $1k gaming rig what budget should I give my keyboard?

ionic briar
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anything that uses gateron, cherry, outemu, kailh, ttc switches, etc
that should be in your consideration

ancient jay
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The pc budget does not include monitor mouse keyboard etc

ancient jay
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Okay

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Ornata v3?

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Wait

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It seems to be both mechanical and membrane

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Nvm then

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I want the sound of the keys

ionic briar
ancient jay
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It's just so satisfying to me

ancient jay
#

Isn't it marketed as silent

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Or wait

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Am I looking in the wrong places

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Found an outemu keyboard

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The aoc gk500 seems to be well praised judging by reviews

glass karma
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Do I need to loop the kailh silver switches?

viscid tapir
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you do not have to lube them but they are a lot smoother if you do than stock

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kailh switches are quite scratchy but stock are still not bad

smoky comet
#

Last time i order anything from kbdfans

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Chinese bullshit

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Cant even get it past their own boarder

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Was supposed to arrive yesterday

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Paid 25 dollars shipping too only to get shit shoveled in my face

glass karma
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Hey I'm thinking about getting the akko mod 007v2 as my first keyboard. Is it a good or bad?

mighty nest
smoky comet
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depends what you want

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if ur gaming at all or not

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if ur gaming, dont touch custom keyboards with a 10 foot pole

smoky comet
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ultra trash latency

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like 125hz polling rate

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chord splitting

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any other keyboard is like 1000-8000hz

cunning anvil
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i havent noticed :/ can i fix that?

smoky comet
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no

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custom keyboards are not advertised for gaming at all

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only for aesthetics

cunning anvil
#

okay

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whats a good keyboard then?

smoky comet
#

do you want linear or clicky

cunning anvil
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linear

smoky comet
#

wooting objectively the best

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the only brand pushing new technology mainstream

cunning anvil
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wtf thats expensive

smoky comet
#

hall effect linear switches that cant break, adjustable actuation

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its CHEAPER than the akko

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i got mine a few days ago

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analog too

cunning anvil
#

yeah but its like all my current keyboards combined

lofty condor
smoky comet
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idk i think its worth it, no other keyboard as advanced or able to compete

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has the best software ive ever seen too

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can literally set 4 macros each at their own key actuation distance, ultra detailed

cunning anvil
#

what games is it good for?

smoky comet
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apex overwatch stuff like that

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csgo its good for counter strafing

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you can also play racing games with the analog switch feature

cunning anvil
#

borderlands?

smoky comet
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some games benefit more from it but they all are noticable faster

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it has a rapid trigger feature where it stops the command the second you let go of the key

cunning anvil
#

that sounds like

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literally any other key

smoky comet
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no

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normal keys have a fixed actuation

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you have to wait for the key to pass it again

glossy sandal
smoky comet
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before it turns off

glossy sandal
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unless you’re at the point where shaving milliseconds is important

cunning anvil
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i dont play for fast i just play games man

glossy sandal
#

so true

smoky comet
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ik im just saying its the top of the line shit for gaming, as well as easily competing with many "custom" keyboards in terms of sound and aesthetics

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out of the box it has lubes stabs and semi lubed switches

glossy sandal
#

I think everyone customs wise agrees it’s not a good board

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you can get something similar for like 40$

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it’s cool tech but not a good board

smoky comet
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why not

glossy sandal
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shit mount implementation, wacky plate,””prelubed”” switches, the stabs are alright I guess

smoky comet
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you can literally swap it into most cases

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i ordered the tofu 60 aluminum for mine

cunning anvil
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i dont think i need to pay that much for a keyboard

glossy sandal
#

but then it’s not the same keyboard

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it’s a pcb/plate from one to another

smoky comet
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case literally does nothing for a keyboard

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only aesthetics

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theres no competing with the wootings pcb and software

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universally agreed upon

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40$ keyboard thats "similar"

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with 125hz alibaba pcb and no software

cunning anvil
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also i do like toying around with custom pcbs, and idc, ive been playing games on customs firmware for a while and it seems to do what i want

smoky comet
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the most atrocious latency and software support ever

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that same pcb in all the top custom keyboards too

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keychron tested at 20ms latency

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on their models

cunning anvil
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ok?

smoky comet
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can imagine the rest are similar

glossy sandal
smoky comet
#

like i said, not advertised for gaming

glossy sandal
#

with like what

smoky comet
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so if you dont game then get whatever you want

cunning anvil
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i play games

glossy sandal
#

7ms of delay, who cares?

cunning anvil
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i dont "game"

glossy sandal
#

Red!

smoky comet
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custom keyboard infants entire view on keyboards revolving around aesthetics only

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gladly forking over 100s for some overporiced paperweight

glossy sandal
#

have you done the 100% ortho

cunning anvil
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not yet, waiting on the funds lol

smoky comet
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but hey at least your 125hz china pcs thoC thOCK thOCKs for your reddit post

glossy sandal
#

rip

cunning anvil
#

tax season

glossy sandal
#

what’re you gonna put in it

cunning anvil
#

idk

glossy sandal
#

Yellows?

cunning anvil
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maybe, i do have milkys left over

glossy sandal
#

always a good choice

cunning anvil
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otherwise i wanna try some silent tactile? idk

smoky comet
#

and the funny part is the higher you go in price the more diminishing returns you get

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many top brands using acryllic cases or other plastic shit

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worse quality than a 30$ red dragon board

glossy sandal
smoky comet
#

could cnc mill my own case thats better

glossy sandal
#

their whispers are nice

cunning anvil
#

ooh did i show you the stacked case someone local did?

glossy sandal
#

don’t think so

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just the layout

cunning anvil
#

its gonna be a lil chonky

glossy sandal
#

integrated plate?

cunning anvil
#

yeah

glossy sandal
#

stacked acrylic is nice

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should put some smd light strips on the bottom

cunning anvil
#

ooh maybe

smoky comet
#

the most delusional "hobby" ive ever seen. no one cares about specs or latency or anything functional. battle of who has more THoCK and who spends more on overpriced warped keycaps. pointless trying to explain stuff to people who are blinded by shiny lights

cunning anvil
#

no lights except a caps lock indicator on this rn lmao

glossy sandal
#

let me pull it up

sand pagoda
smoky comet
#

they try and convince themseleves that the more they unload, the better quality it must be

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when its the same aluminium shit in every budget keyboard

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out of the same chinese factory

cunning anvil
#

whew

sand pagoda
#

Not budget necessarily like spend money on quality parts

glossy sandal
#

Vit what makes you think that?

smoky comet
#

i look at firmware and innovation and shit that can OBJECTIVELY be measured as "better" or not when it comes to keyboards

glossy sandal
#

what have you tried that makes you think that

cunning anvil
#

okay so i dislike the stagger, and that is my primary function

sand pagoda
#

Or how silent something is?

cunning anvil
#

your keyboards are objectively worse

#

in that regard

glossy sandal
#

I love stagger

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Hate ortho

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Hate 40s

glass karma
#

Bout what do I get if I want a fast keyboard that is good for gaming and give some optimization?

smoky comet
#

no shit like chord splitting, latency, polling rate, debounce algorithm

glossy sandal
#

Hate split

smoky comet
#

basically every keyboard ive had has chattered, sooner or later

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its literally built into the switch design with a debounce algorith

cunning anvil
#

still objectively staggered

smoky comet
#

hall effect is IMPOSSIBLE to chatter because it doesnt have the debounch

glossy sandal
#

stagger is better

smoky comet
#

same for optical switches

glossy sandal
#

ortho looks clustered

smoky comet
#

have yet to chatter on this keyboard so money already well spent

cunning anvil
#

40s are so cute :c

glossy sandal
#

Only 40 I really like is pegasus

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and maybe mercutio

cunning anvil
#

4x10 chocolate bar is my fav layout bc im just dumb

glossy sandal
#

I was considering picking up a mercutio but I realized it’d probably sit on a shelf

cunning anvil
#

(chocolate bar being shape not a kb name)

patent spruce
#

How much of a keyboard could I 3d print

cunning anvil
#

case, plate, caps, uhh

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handwire it

patent spruce
#

Could I just get the board and the switches

glossy sandal
#

wdym

patent spruce
#

Nvm

glossy sandal
#

I think you might be looking for a kit

patent spruce
#

Maybe but I think it would be cool to 3d print the keys at least

glossy sandal
#

kits are usually everything but the switches and keycaps

patent spruce
#

Oh ok cool

glossy sandal
#

budget?

smoky comet
#

have fun making your own keycaps

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will still probably have less warp than GMK shit

glossy sandal
#

Is vit short for vitriol?

smoky comet
#

so witty

#

i bet you were the leader of debate club in middle school

glossy sandal
#

3dp keycaps, pretty cool

#

@patent spruce

smoky comet
#

no one actually wants to talk about specs, would rather talk about their placebo sound mods or other obscure bullshit niche topics

#

not going to bother talking to deaf ears

cunning anvil
#

because not everyone just wants to game hard

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i just want to enjoy what i play

smoky comet
#

im not even talking about gaming

glossy sandal
#

I don’t really care if I make the wrong choice and die 6ms faster tbh

cunning anvil
#

i like touching ortho placed keys

smoky comet
#

just technology in general

#

switches that cant chatter, have infinite lifespan, and better firmware

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and adjustable actuation

patent spruce
glossy sandal
#

lmfao

#

welcome I guess

smoky comet
#

but no go back to lubing your gateron dumpster brown switches or whatever theyre called

#

placebo

cunning anvil
#

why are you so angry people dont want to talk about what you want

glossy sandal
#

A heads up that lekker wooting switches are manufactured by gateron :^)

smoky comet
#

yeah no shit

glass karma
#

Is there any negative points Bout getting a costume keyboard?

glossy sandal
#

maybe just the hole in your pocket

#

the chattering and latency issues only happens with wireless/shitty boards

sand pagoda
#

^^

smoky comet
#

happens in every keyboard with a physical switch

#

sooner or later

#

some brands handle debounce better

#

can look up some cherry mx graphs and literally SEE the chatter spike

glossy sandal
#

👍

sand pagoda
#

Me with red outemus… 💀

smoky comet
#

literally something BUILT into every keyboard

#

would be wrong to say it never chatters

glossy sandal
#

Using cherry blacks on my daily of close to 8 months now

#

never chattered

smoky comet
#

the only thing is crappy trash pcbs that are 125hz wont pick up chatter as easily

#

as say 1000hz or 4000hz

#

when i had some 125hz ducky it wasnt as noticable as my last 4000hz keyboard

sand pagoda
#

Well, its all relative

cunning anvil
#

imagine using usb for gaming though

patent spruce
#

Oh the caps

cunning anvil
#

if you want objective best, get the one that interrupts and has nkro

smoky comet
#

and im not even a hardcore gamer, i just appreciate good tech and functionality, WITH the option of making it look aesthetically same as any overpriced custom keyboard paperweight

glass karma
#

Which keyboard has a higher hz?

glossy sandal
#

wooting builds are cool

#

Wooting swapped tofus are nice

patent spruce
#

My school has a printer and I figured it would be a neat project

#

I could try to design the keys maybe, I'd probably just use a template thk

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Tho

glossy sandal
#

but I don’t really care about Hall effect because it’s not implemented on a large scale, nor do I have any use for the benefits of it

smoky comet
#

makes NO sense to spend 10x more money on something with the SAME internals as anything else being put out today

glass karma
smoky comet
#

no clear upgrade just diminishing returns

cunning anvil
smoky comet
#

only factor is who lubes the switch more and has better cases

#

shit that you do anyways so doesnt matter

glossy sandal
cunning anvil
#

besides, didnt qmk enabe 1000hz defaults?

glass karma
#

Is the 007 v2 DIY Kit bad for gaming?

glossy sandal
#

speaking of, some keycaps from a friend just got delivered

cunning anvil
#

ooh what kind

glossy sandal
#

gmk pulse

smoky comet
#

yeah

#

most custom keyuboard "enthusiasts" wouldnt know good specs if it hit them in the face

glossy sandal
#

he gave me the kitting for the numpad as a gift because I bought a murphpad

cunning anvil
glossy sandal
#

murphpad isn’t here yet but this got here

cunning anvil
#

if you cant tell why pay triple the price to boost your polling rate

smoky comet
#

THATS the issue

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children CANT tell what a good product is

#

or how a keyuboard SHOULD feel

#

too used to 125hz walmart pcbs

glossy sandal
#

triple the price just to make the same decision where you die but this time 8ms faster

smoky comet
#

or what actual good software is

cunning anvil
#

firmware

glass karma
glossy sandal
smoky comet
#

do whatever you want to but if you really care about gaming seriously then stay away from the money pit called custom keyboards

cunning anvil
#

who tf said i was gonna game seriously

smoky comet
#

or even if you care about good firmware at the very least

cunning anvil
#

qmk does what i want

#

which is a bit more than i can say for "gaming keyboard" software

smoky comet
#

ot talking to you

cunning anvil
#

okay

#

fun fact solder can easily melt the cabling around your cable

#

plastics amirite

pseudo owl
#

iPhone camera doesn’t do justice… will get photos with nice camera tomorrow lafrChamp

#

Such a shame they closed down…

glass karma
wide lodge
#

Does anybody know if the flux keyboard is a scam? It definitely seems like it just because of how advanced the tech would be and they're running a Kickstarter. Surely you'd be able to get actual investors with a working product like that.

boreal rivet
#

every kickstarter has the potential to be a scam

#

and why would people invest in a keyboard that doesn't really improve on existing keyboards?

dawn belfry
#

Hey, would anyone here be able to help me find a full size white mechanical keyboard for reasonably cheap. Whether that means a DIY kit or just a full keyboard I don't mind.

#

I'm having trouble finding anything for less than around $200aud which is above my budget

marsh scarab
#

Thinking whether to buy a keyboard or to buy a gaming chair (the chair I'm using is destroying my back)

ionic briar
glass karma
boreal rivet
#

definitely a chair

#

steelcase leap v2 is great unless you already know you like the aeron or want an embody

smoky comet
#

So if you only care about sound/looks then making your own budget option is better

#

“Budget” keyboard in this hobby is pricey by default

#

“Custom” keyboards wont be as good for gaming. Theyre not advertised to be. Very rarely will you have good gaming specs AND custom keyboard levels of sound/aesthetics

#

Wooting is an exception since it has a ton of modding capability

dawn belfry
#

So can anyone here help me?

viscid tapir
#

i would recommend to get an ergonomic chair with breathable mesh there are really cheap ones sold by ikea and uvi

amber tartan
#

get an aeron

viscid tapir
#

the

#

price

boreal rivet
#

IKEA chairs are garbage

#

And Aeron is quite polarising

#

Leap is the best choice

muted karma
#

don't regret getting a leap

#

one of my best investements

river ermine
#

is it possible to remove keycaps without a tool?

glass karma
viscid tapir
#

i had ikea and uvi chairs for years never had an issue

#

gaming and herman chairs just boost prices for same material

viscid tapir
glass karma
viscid tapir
#

bigger keys i rather remove with fingers

viscid tapir
#

but wrong poses cause fatigue faster

river ermine
viscid tapir
#

some are harder to remove

boreal rivet
glass karma
#

Has someone tried Stainless steel keycaps im thinking about buying bout im not sure if they even fit KEKW

viscid tapir
boreal rivet
#

Highly doubt it

viscid tapir
#

my friend has the one but not sure which model it felt same as my uvi focus chair

#

if you want to pay just for brand name go ahead

#

also our local retailer has them in shop you can try them

glass karma
#

It's just a logitec chair calm down

river ermine
viscid tapir
#

imagine paying more for chair than pc

river ermine
#

sharp edges

viscid tapir
river ermine
#

oem

viscid tapir
#

yes those will be hard to remove with fingers

river ermine
#

oh

viscid tapir
#

just order a switch puller

#

you can get it for 1 eur or 2 eur

#

and a keycap puller

river ermine
#

i have a switch puller

#

i just wanted to know

#

if i can use my hands

viscid tapir
#

you can also use switch puller

#

well you can use hands but depends if you can get a good grip and angle

#

i usually remove keycaps from stabilizers with my fingers

river ermine
#

meh ill rather use the puller

#

i eitther have a bad grip or this thing is really sitting down hard

viscid tapir
#

space and enter are only hard to remove with keycap puller

#

i use my fingers for those

river ermine
#

my back space is sounding a bit weird

#

i removed the keycap

#

there wasnt anything wrong

#

but it sounds a bit wrong

#

the switch is smooth

#

and the keycap isnt scratching anything

#

idk

#

it gives a pop sound when i let go of the key

#

other keys are fine tho

viscid tapir
#

so when it returns up

#

have you checked your stabilizers

sturdy hatch
paper wadi
#

It’s a cool concept but I have a suspicion that it won’t work out

smoky comet
#
  • i like optical switches for the simple fact its impossible to chatter
#

No debounce algorithm

#

Especially if you are using a high polling rate board, chattering more noticable

#

Compared to a 125hz

sleek bronze
glossy sandal
#

it’s the numpad part of gmk pulse

sturdy hatch
viscid tapir
#

milky red vs ktt rose

#

hmm

cunning anvil
hollow wagon
autumn agate
#

Hi keyboarders!

autumn agate
sturdy hatch
autumn agate
#

🫶

glossy sandal
#

🫶

glass karma
ivory heath
#

I need some websites with cool and unique keycap sets

#

I'm still waiting on my ceramic set from a kickstarter last year and I'm just desperate to look at something new

fading iris
#

No way your complaining about keyboards in a keyboards chat

#

Also keyboards aren’t really about the internals

#

It’s about the enjoyment of creating it

#

And 99% Of people won’t notice an extra bit of latency from from a custom Mech

sturdy hatch
autumn agate
#

Hi

marsh scarab
hollow wagon
hollow wagon
boreal rivet
unkempt dome
autumn agate
#

Hi, I’m at an airport rn

#

Going on vacation!

sand pagoda
#

L

unkempt dome
#

Nice
Where are you going ?

sand pagoda
#

I’m in a different state since Friday last week

autumn agate
#

Japan and Taiwan

unkempt dome
#

I so want to go to Japan someday

autumn agate
#

I’m going to eat lots of food

unkempt dome
#

Gonna try some street ramen vendor ?

autumn agate
#

Yeah

unkempt dome
#

And rolling sushi place ?

#

Damn now I'm hungry

autumn agate
#

We going to nom nom

sand pagoda
#

Damn, always wanted to go to somewhere in Asia for the traditional foods, my friend and I have a pact to do it someday

#

Or anywhere outside the US, although I know many people who I’m grateful have made me traditional food (best food)

unkempt dome
#

Well if you ever go to Quebec you have to try poutine ... and stuff with maple syrup I guess

slim wave
#

does keybaord kits come with everything except keycaps and switches?