#peripherals

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dense flare
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Goddamn logitech selling crappy proprietary kb’s for 250 while i spent 160~ on my custom 75% kb

glossy sandal
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arghhh

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deciding between qk80 and ssk model f

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both of them are so pretty

red pine
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cherry mx browns 🤮

gloomy patrol
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mid take

red pine
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just like the mid cherry browns

marble dock
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Do you really think i care given the price?

echo holly
untold orchid
echo holly
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XD

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man I used to be like that too

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But now I realize, mx browns are pretty neat

boreal rivet
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its harder to form an independent opinion than to just follow the crowd

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nice job

untold orchid
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I used browns previously, tried a quality switch one and now it just feels like a super scratchy linear to me

autumn agate
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Thanks 65dead722missing

unkempt dome
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I have a board with mx brown, those definitely need lubing and the tactility is really light ... spring is also really light, way too light for me to be usable ...

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I like that board cause of the color scheme and general theme they gave it but I don't intend to desolder every switches on it any time soon so it will be used as it is if I ever use it again ... it also has cherry profile keycaps which are about the worst profile I've tried after oem profile

untold orchid
autumn agate
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seems like it

autumn agate
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cherry is the best for me

boreal rivet
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its amazing how people can dislike cherry profile right? whoa

unkempt dome
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it's not comfortable to type on

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simple as that

marble dock
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how do y'all feel about reds? (the switch the board ^ actually uses)

vapid meteor
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Incorrect, you have to create your own or customize/edit current Keycaps for many of the low profile key caps (such as the g915).

dense flare
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low profile keyboards mid anyways

amber tartan
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TRUE

chilly perch
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I want shine thru but they're north facing leds

gloomy lichen
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Give that a BIGAss enter key and I would basically do anything to get my hands on that monstrosity

gloomy lichen
glossy sandal
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I <3 cherry profile

sleek bronze
glossy sandal
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the blanks on the bottom board look nice

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what are they

gloomy lichen
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I'll never complain about Cherry profile existing, especially because some of the best cap designs started on Cherry before they were rereleased as different profiles.

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Also, I love those legends.

glossy sandal
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I mean yeah preference and whatnot

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cherry profile is probably my favorite, I’ve been digging dcs lately though

gloomy lichen
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There's a lot to like about DCS too. I'm just more a fan of high profile caps like SA and MT3. Get me on them knucklefuckers

glossy sandal
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too sculpted for me and the legends are ass

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i hate centered legends

gloomy lichen
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This right here is like my favorite part of keebs. Two people can have a totally different idea of what makes a keyboard good.

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Incidentally, I agree with you on SA legends - centered legends like those are ass, I really like the narrower legends on MT3 though. SA is gaijin or bust

unkempt dome
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Mt3 profile looks really nice, never tried to type on it tho

gloomy lichen
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Pretty sure it's even more sculpted than SA but it's so significant at that point that your fingertips just kinda slip into the center of the cap when you press it. It makes misses less likely

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Plus there's the fact that Drop likes to put them on sale for 50%+ off pretty frequently, and dang do they make nice clack when they're ABS

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If you're just overall against sculpt though, it won't be for you.

unkempt dome
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I like flat profile and overly sculpted ones

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Not the middle

gloomy lichen
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Idk, maybe you would like MT3 then. Drop frequently runs those as either BOGO or just heavily reduced to a point where they're not much more expensive than a basic set of nasty PBT caps from Amazon

unkempt dome
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I like nasty pbt caps from amazon

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So I'll probably like something more premium

urban panther
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akko ASA keycaps

unkempt dome
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I like them ok

gloomy lichen
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PBT just isn't my preference but I really have nothing bad to say about Akko caps. They've largely moved away from clones, their doubleshot process is nicer than almost any Chinese seller, and they do nice designs.

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Also, their keyboards are good and their switches are seriously excellent.

chrome raft
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What other companies are good naking wireless keyboards beside nuphy, keychron, and wooting?

unkempt dome
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akko have some wireless keyboard
same for royal kludge
is the wireless good ... they use 2.4 GHz dongle so should be good enough

chrome raft
unkempt dome
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silent switches ... just get some that are stated as silent

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silent red, silent box pink/brown, haze pink, u4 and such

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there's now a bunch of silent switches on the market

chrome raft
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Do u know any good prebuilt keyboards?

unkempt dome
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depend of the budget

chrome raft
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200 usd

unkempt dome
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wooting most likely

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but I don't know if it's wireless

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yeah no I don't think they have wireless keyboards

chrome raft
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Ye sadly

gloomy lichen
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Is wireless a must? Because outside of Logitech, nobody really makes 'good' wireless keyboards

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And even that is... probably a bit too generous to say of Logi

chrome raft
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If there arent any good wireless ones i could get a wired ones and just get a longer wire

gloomy lichen
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A longer wire will almost certainly work better unless it's over around 15 feet.

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And even then, keyboards are super low current devices so you could probably push it a bit further.

chrome raft
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No 15feet is too long i might just get one thats less than 10

gloomy lichen
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A 10 foot USB A to C cable will 100% do way better than wireless. You won't pay as much for the keyboard, it'll work better, you won't run out of battery because you had RGB on, and it won't quit connecting after 6 months.

chrome raft
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I dont care about rgb tbh

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Just want it to be silent and good quality

gloomy lichen
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Wireless peripherals and quality mostly don't mix

chrome raft
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Might get the wooting 2 he

chrome raft
gloomy lichen
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I said 'mostly', but I couldn't say for certain about nuphy. Basically, introducing wireless is introducing a far greater failure point than you are introducing a solution to a problem

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Unless you wanna do like Linus and install a Qi charger in the base of your desk, a wireless keyboard won't be truly wireless, and it won't be particularly reliable for myriad reasons. If Nuphy makes good ones, go for Nuphy. It'll still not be as reliable as a wired connection but if it works it works

full birch
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Urgh I'm getting either double spaces or no space at all with my keyboard

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Also 2 of my keys broke.

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(see the double spaces there)

gloomy lichen
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Your keys just fell off?

full birch
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nah

full birch
gloomy lichen
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I mean... keycaps falling off is also kinda weird

full birch
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I didnt use a key removal tool

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so

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my bad

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Looking for a TKL, black, with either linear switches or MX Browns.

gloomy lichen
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Budget?

full birch
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somthing under 100 usd/160 aud

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also im in aus if that helps

gloomy lichen
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Shipping included or are you in Melbourne/Sydney?

full birch
gloomy lichen
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Also this is assuming you just want to buy a keyboard, and that your current board is fubar

full birch
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Its a logitech one so it has those stupid switches with the proprietary keycap slots

gloomy lichen
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Outer suburbs Melbourne or easy to get to the inner city?

full birch
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like the inner suburbs

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ie within 30 ish km of the CBD

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dont wanna be toooo specific

gloomy lichen
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Yeah I don't want to know more than that anyway. Just trying to gauge whether it's better to send you to Center Com or CPL

full birch
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are you a fellow aussie?

gloomy lichen
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Used to be. Grew up in Melbourne, now I live in the USA.

full birch
gloomy lichen
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Point is, you'll find a bunch of keyboards which meet those criteria at around $100AU which you can (probably) test at CPL and see what you like exactly.

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CPL has also been candyland for nerds for decades

full birch
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Ive never heard of them

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These double spaces dude

gloomy lichen
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It's close to the Queen Victoria market in the CBD.

gloomy lichen
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A few blocks away, but that's roughly the area. Otherwise Centre Com's main store is in Richmond IIRC

full birch
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are keychron good?

gloomy lichen
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They're not the top of the line but they're pretty solid

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But places like CPL are so rare in the tech world that anyone who can reasonably make it to one and take advantage of testing which board they really like in person should take it

full birch
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I saw 3d printers on their product selection and i got excited for a second.

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Then saw the only thing they stock is a 250 gram spool of PLA for 40x market price.

gloomy lichen
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Ew

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But their keyboards seem pretty appropriately priced.

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Make some comparisons to what you'd pay for the same products online. Also check Centre Com, they've also always been great and competitive.

full birch
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I m listening to the LTT christmas album,i cant take you seriously rn. sorry 😂

gloomy lichen
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I love track 3 by Unknown Artist

full birch
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they're talking about steve jobs and iphones

gloomy lichen
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God he was a prick

full birch
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Made good phones tho

gloomy lichen
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Admittedly yes

full birch
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As much as i hate apples practices they make damn good laptops at a very competitive price if you get refurbished and really good tablets

gloomy lichen
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I haven't personally used Cooler Master keyboards but I've heard pretty good things. I wouldn't take my word for it though, I'd check reviews.

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Glancing at reviews though, I don't tend to put much stock in criticisms of Gateron switches in budget boards. Cherry isn't any better imho and in the case of tactile switches is significantly worse

full birch
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alright, after looking through some reviews on amazon I think i'll go for the CM CK530.

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$70 at centre com and in stock

gloomy lichen
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I've seen them in person at Micro Center and they were pretty catching, all things considered. Way under budget which is nice and if anything's wrong with it I've never had trouble with returns at Centre Com

full birch
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The only problem i had with centre com was they had my mobo for $240 aud when its normally like $160, but then again this was right before the pandemic really happened (mid may 2020)

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Great experience otherwise.

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Since im under budget and at a computer store i might as well buy a new SSD

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That game I havent played for over a year and have no intention of returning back to? yeah dont need to delete it

gloomy lichen
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Yeah that's the only real risk with going to Centre Com or CPL... they're super dangerous.

dense sleet
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i just copped a G915 TKL but i just now realized i got the tactile version instead of the linear

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anyone knows if you can swap switches in case i don't like tactiles?

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aw hell naw you need soldering and shit, i'm just gonna return it if i don't like it

vapid meteor
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Anyone know if the SteelSeries Apex Pro TKL Wireless has swappable switches?

muted karma
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the hall effect switches they use can just be pulled out

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but the only switches you can put in it are the original ones

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or the ones from wooting (same manufacturer)

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also can't springswap them except for springs made for those switches

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which also are only sold by wooting atm

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also the non-hall effect switches (f-row, arrowkyes and nac-cluster) are not hot swappable

dense sleet
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I thought they were only relevant for analog sticks

muted karma
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they were a thing in the 70s

dense sleet
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What potentiometer is there to break on a keyboard switch? Why not just have optical switches at that point

muted karma
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they read an analog signal

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reading it with optical is just not as reliable, granular and has enough range

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razer does it though

dense sleet
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Oh it's some nerd "bro it reduces latency trust me bro" diminishing returns type shit

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Still interesting ig

boreal rivet
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hall effect switches measure only one axis and switches to active high/low at a certain flux

muted karma
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also with the massive debounce that keyboard switches need that would actually be a reasonable thing

rain sentinel
dense sleet
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OH

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Nvm didnt see the video

grim rampart
rain sentinel
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I would also need a sound test

muted karma
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there are sound tests already

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I'd like to see some third party with one before spending any money on it KEKW

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I still don't trust that it actually functions like advertised already

dusty spear
chilly perch
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What's the point

boreal rivet
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I feel like these new keyboards with huge screens are just for people who can't touch type to cope or something

chilly perch
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It's just a niche art piece

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Vast majority of ppl don't need a gigantic stream deck

glossy sandal
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idea button

sleek bronze
# glossy sandal what are they

I could find them if you want, but those are just some super random stuff on AliExpress found like 4 years ago
And yeah they are nice... To my knowledge, I'm the kind of guy that only takes random cheap keycaps soooo

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I wonder if there is that much of a difference of feeling with more high end keycaps, but prices crank up so fast ...

glossy sandal
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Do you remember if they supported Alice?

sleek bronze
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They are iso full size so I guess there is enough key for an Alice yeah

glossy sandal
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nice

dawn swan
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no ghosting/nkro and no issues with split inputs across multiple polling cycles

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all keys at sent at the same time

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all customs using QMK firmware or similar will have a spike above 0ms caused by their shit firmware when multiple keys are actuated at the exact same time

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delta graph showing miliseconds between keypresses which shows chord splitting

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with keyboard inspector program on github

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what shit firmware looks like

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obvious consistent delay between key inputs

cunning anvil
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oof, whats the hip thing to use then

dawn swan
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the best you can do for QMK is set the polling rate to 1000hz and an eager debounce method and even then it still has a 1ms delay between each input

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multiple PRs on their github that are just rotting for months since its not a priority to fix the issue

cunning anvil
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how noticable is that?

dawn swan
cunning anvil
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or what to look for

dawn swan
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its not usually noticeable unless you have a really bad keyboard with low polling rate or play games that require simultaneous keypresses in sync

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but its not really an excuse for shit firmware

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when ive tested 40 dollar keyboards that dont have the problem

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then i try it on a keyboard i flashed with QMK and its 10x worse

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any time its brought up or if i mention it a hivemind wakes up to go "NOT A REAL ISSue LOl" and spew about "cope" even though ive only seen one custom PCB which is not even in mass production that is focusing on gaming performance

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i think only sold in low volume

cunning anvil
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i wonder whats new with qmk since that issue

dawn swan
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they still are not pushing the changes

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the best you can do for qmk is use a super outdated branch of it and then it has other problems like slow scanrate or something

cunning anvil
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rip its just a merge error rn

dawn swan
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for how many hours i went through just trying to get QMK working how i wanted it to i would have rather just desoldered an entire 100% pcb and then transplant it into a case and with the switches i wanted

cunning anvil
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glad im bad at rhythm games ig

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what about other firmwares?

onyx summit
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Left or right?

glossy sandal
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oh you’re the guy who bought the mystery box

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definitely left

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if you want accents put them on Alphas/mods

onyx summit
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see i robbed some keycaps from my brother who uses a 60 percent

sly crane
sly crane
chrome mauve
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left personally

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I like it simple

sly crane
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Fair enough

mild hamlet
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Just finished my Q2 build, did a foam mod and this thing sounds incredible, so glad i went with this board, whoever recommended keychron i thank you

upper valve
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can someone help e?

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my mouse keeps disconnecting and reconnecting

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wired mouse

gloomy lichen
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Is your mouse's cable messed up?

upper valve
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idk

gloomy lichen
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Can you see any major kinks in the cable?

upper valve
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meaning?

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i dont see any tears or anything like that

gloomy lichen
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I mean, if you can tell if it likes feet that'd be impressive

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But I mean harsh bends anywhere.

upper valve
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there are gonna be bends no?

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its a cable

gloomy lichen
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Yes, some bends are normal. Very flimsy, harsh bends are not normal.

upper valve
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well no

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my mouse is hooked up to a mouse bungee that is probably the worst bend it has

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but i doubt thats the reason tho

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the disconnect thing mainly happens when im playing games

gloomy lichen
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If you pinch the cable at the connection to the bungee and wiggle it, can you cause it to disconnect?

upper valve
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nop

full birch
dawn swan
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if it has the switch type you want fairly sure that board is soldered

signal haven
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best kbm combo under $30 ?

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it MUST BE COMFORTABLE

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also rgb not needed but would be nice to have

glossy sandal
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MK870

signal haven
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also it can be wired

glossy sandal
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MK270*

signal haven
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and mouse does not need to have more than 3 buttons

signal haven
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i want wired

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i have a logitech mk215 right now

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but its wireless

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and sometimes during matches it stops working and i die

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should i keep it

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is there a possible way i can do operation on it and make it wired

slate ocean
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hey does anyone have experience with low-profile keychron keyboards? im thinking about getting the k3 pro and was wondering if it feels as sturdy as the normal ones

rain sentinel
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Save more money

signal haven
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whats the cheapest

rain sentinel
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Save some more money and get something better

signal haven
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how about $50 ?

rain sentinel
signal haven
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thats too much for a kbm

rain sentinel
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And that’s just keyboard

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Mouse is like $30 at the cheapest

signal haven
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meanwhile i was using a $4 kbm combo for 3 - 4 years

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never felt bad

rain sentinel
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They’re bad

signal haven
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aside from the fact it only lasted 4 years

rain sentinel
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Really bad

boreal rivet
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stop projecting

rain sentinel
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A $2 keyboard and a $2 mouse are objectively bad

boreal rivet
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You never know 🫡

rain sentinel
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Same goes for a mouse

boreal rivet
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Don’t really get why you’re so worked up over this tbh

rain sentinel
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I’m not worked up at all I’m just stating that saving a lot more is a way better idea than shifting through shit to try to find a subpar product

dawn swan
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most actual mechanical keyboards cost about $25+ and probably similar price range for mice

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actual as in not membrane

rain sentinel
dawn swan
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if its for gaming and you dont care about how it looks or sounds there are some keyboards in the 25-50 dollar range that beat customs for the task

rain sentinel
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The ones in that range still feel like trash

dawn swan
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too bad nobody actually tests those keyboards for technical specifications

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no polling rate or response time or anything

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some of them are worse than membranes

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i think the 40 dollar redragon models have like 25ms input lag

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and "1000hz" response time but behave like 125hz with 8ms between key groupings

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and then i compare it to a 40 dollar gigabyte from 5 years ago and its true 1000hz with low input lag

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which is no longer manufactured in favor of RGB shit that is flimsy and can be twisted with bare hands

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would rather add all the RGB garbage that adds manufacturing cost and slows down the MCU with rainbow puke animated effects over having an actually fast gaming keyboard for a good price

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took apart a redragon surara and the PCB did not even have a proper diode matrix

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only keyboard ive dealt with that i would consider worse than redragon surara 100% is GMMK 100% since its basically the same china shit but with 3x the price tag

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not sure why they even still sell it

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worst keyboard ive ever touched

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the only product ive ever used from their brand and it left a bad taste

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was going to install novelkeys kailh box switches into it and PBT keycaps but the switch plate is so shit that the switches would fall out by almost just flipping the keyboard over

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could lightly pull on a keycap and have the entire switch fly out

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and then the adjacent switch next to it pop out from pulling

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then i use the same exact switches on some other switch plate and they go in solid

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to top it off the rgb software was complete trash and the polling rate selector was broken

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setting "1000" for the polling rate in the glorious dumpster fire software would actually make the keyboard measure worse with keyboard inspector

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larger minimum delay between keypress events

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about 7-8ms which is 125hz

sharp sierra
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what are some good white mechanical 65% keyboards? idk much abt keyboards

upper valve
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hello

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can someone help me?

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my mouse keeps disconnecting and reconnecting

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wired viper mini

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i changed ports but not much help

dawn swan
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could be bad usb cable

upper valve
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i see

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im not sure

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in the middle it happened to my keyboard,webcam and everything

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but now its just my mouse happening

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idk whats going on

upper valve
dawn swan
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if you are flicking the mouse around and the usb cable is moving and disconnecting then its probably a bad wire in the cable

upper valve
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i see

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i am trying it out on my other computer

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lets see if it disconnects

upper valve
dusty aurora
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Made some tes68 stickers

frozen echo
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Looking to get silent keycaps and am looking for suggestions anyone might have on what brand to buy from, so far I've only heard of Gateron so I was hoping here there would be more opinions.

uncut ferry
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I humbly seek the wisdom of the LTT hive mind. I'm in the market for a new keyboard, but I have some "unusual" feature desires and I'm hoping someone out there has some suggestions

amber tartan
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shoot

uncut ferry
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What I'm looking for is very slim, low key travel, gaming/multipurpose, with a "snappy" feeling key press (where it resists until it breaks and then is very light to bottom out), very quite key noise (I dont like clickity clack), white or RGB backlight, wired or wireless, full size with numpad or 96%, white chassis/key caps, chicklet or similar cap style.

So far i've looked at/considered the logitech G815/915, keychron K5, and nuphy air96. I realize what I'm describing is basically a late 2000's apple keyboard, but I'm looking for something more compatible and modern, and hopefully mechanical.

pine flower
# uncut ferry What I'm looking for is very slim, low key travel, gaming/multipurpose, with a "...

I enjoy my g915. I use the clicky blues which are a modified kailh choc blue switch. These are low profile switches. The modication is in the stem. So there are no aftermarket keycaps replacement. That is the only downside (other than usb-micro but big whoop). This is by far my favorite keyboard of all time.

The other switches are the chock red and browns. It sounds like you are describing a tactile switch which defining. So thr browns may be best choice.

As for low key travel, they all have 1.3mm pretravel. Cherry Mx red and blues are 2.0-2.2mm.

As for low profile, so long as a kbm is hotswappable, khail, cherry, and gateron all make low profile switches

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One thing I like about the g915 is that all the keys are the exact same height. Most other keyboards, I don't know the name of the layout anymore, but Z,A,Q,1 (Etc) rows are all on different heights. idk if that is like the 2000 apple keyboard, but just something you may not have thought about

amber tartan
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yes i think

chrome raft
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Keychron k1 pro or qwerty qk80?

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Idk which one to get

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Qk80 looks clean and everything
But k1 pro is ok too

gloomy lichen
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The K1 Pro has an acrylic base, right?

viscid tapir
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which one is better

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for the keychron v3

chrome raft
sly crane
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Bro these blue outemu switches 💀

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I'm dying

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I hope lube does something

gloomy lichen
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Lubing clicky switches, and Outemu at that

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I mean, it'll do you the favor of breaking them

sly crane
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Wdym?!

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I mean i knew they were clicky but not this much

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Like my table goes boom boom fr

gloomy lichen
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Outemu switches are not good to begin with. Outemu Blues are awful

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And if you're using Outemu blues, my guess is you don't have a lot of experience with lubing switches... which means if you try, you'll probably make at least a number of them nonfunctional or horribly inconsistent.

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That number is probably close to 100%.

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Click jacket switches are not for lubing.

sly crane
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Hmm i can't do much can i

gloomy lichen
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If you're in a position to and you're really disagreeing with the switches, returning it may be an option.

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Basically, click jacket switches can technically be lubed but you're not going to get much benefit out of it if any, and they'll probably just not work right afterwards. You could lube the springs, but spring ping isn't gonna be why Outemu blues are bad.

sly crane
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Oh

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I'll just foam mod it then

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And can i lube the stabilizers?

gloomy lichen
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Foam may help, yeah, and you can always lube stabilizers

sly crane
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Alright!

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Thank you

viscid tapir
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why do people lube stabilizers

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i know lubing switches but why stabilizers

gloomy lichen
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Because stab rattle is infuriating.

viscid tapir
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but how does oil stop rattling

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but only space rattles then right

gloomy lichen
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More appropriate to call it grease at that viscosity and stability. And no, it's any key that uses a stabilizer. So in a 100% keyboard, it would be Lshift, space, Rshift, Enter, Backspace, +, and Return on the numpad.

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So... you lube dozens of switches to get them sounding and feeling nice, then if you don't do your stabs, the biggest, loudest, most repeatedly used keys are rattly and feel like crap

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I'd rather do stabs with unlubed switches than switches with unlubed stabs.

viscid tapir
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yes but i never had an issue with rattling that much only space but only on right side but thick grease sure but i hear people use oily 105 is 105 not clearer

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idk my shift and enter do not rattle than any other keys but space does but i ignore since it only rattles if i press it on right side

gloomy lichen
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105 is not remotely suitable for stabs. 205g0 on the rails, something much thicker in the post holes.

abstract raft
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Are higround keyboards any good?

boreal rivet
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you're basically just asking for a laptop keyboard

viscid tapir
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and use 205 for housing

boreal rivet
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Why would you use 105 for stabs

viscid tapir
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i just hear people do

marble dock
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Opinions on red switches?

viscid tapir
#

despite people saying they are bad i usually dislike all that was recommended to me people just hate them for no reason

urban jetty
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Got all this from between my letter keys

rain sentinel
#

I need a recommendation for a hhkb 60% kit for under $200usd. Not the entire keeb for that price just like pcb and case

boreal rivet
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just buy a literal hhkb

rain sentinel
boreal rivet
#

👨

unkempt dome
opaque shard
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Making progress on my keyboard boys

cunning anvil
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rad

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pink

opaque shard
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Oh yeah

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I've been using white for a few years, I hate black peripherals. Now I'm gonna try using pink for a while

urban panther
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or smooshed starbursts

opaque shard
#

Yeah, I don't like the finish I got here

#

I suspect I used too much paint

simple flax
#

how are gat oil kings?

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l+F

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Lubed and filmed oil kings

rain sentinel
glossy sandal
#

also factory lube is fine

simple flax
#

Are they sound good tho

simple flax
#

Pretty psyched

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Gonna use gat oil kings on it

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Except mine is Tofu65

glossy sandal
#

it's going to be on sale soon

rain sentinel
#

Yea

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Out of budget

simple flax
#

@rain sentinel

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were u invilved in chdernobyl

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chernobyl

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hence radiocactive

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dis u

urban jetty
urban panther
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I've been assaulted by many walking cacti

sly crane
#

How did I forget their name!!

rain sentinel
gloomy lichen
rain sentinel
#

The only use for cherry mx blues is target practice and burning

exotic wyvern
sly crane
urban jetty
#

Well im never cleaning a keyboard again

proud ember
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Ngl, hearing the click feel better than hearing lubed click

urban jetty
#

I didnt even lube, just got the gunk out then keys started double clicking

simple flax
#

@urban jetty

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Hi

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Actually

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Would anyone

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Anyone at all

#

Pls

#

Anyone

#

Help me build a keyboard I just bought I

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I can’t even get the stabilizers in

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Pls help

#

Pls

gloomy patrol
simple flax
#

dm me

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I’ll video u if ya want

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It’s the Lego keeb

#

Adam60

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Lost asf and REALLY don’t wanna fuck it up

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I rly need help xd

#

Does The bar on stabilizers go on front or back

mild hamlet
simple flax
#

Nop

mild hamlet
#

clip in?

#

they should have 2 different size parts, at least mine did, which went into 2 different size holes, my wires on my stabs depending on key are different directions bc thats just how my pcb is laid out

#

mine is a keychron q2 though so idk

upper valve
#

Does any1 know why i cant find a single viper mini anywhere?

#

Did they discontinue it?

scarlet burrow
#

Are there any other clear keys over displays boards coming down the pike that I should be aware of?

simple flax
#

Everybody

#

What do the 4 caps at the top left go to??

#

Just got this set

#

What r these

gloomy patrol
#

they are novs

#

you can put them anywhere on the top row

prisma mural
lime ridge
#

whats a good budget keyboard, i dont mind any switch and i dont mind having a 10 keyless, just needs to work and feel nice

lime ridge
prisma mural
#

us?

lime ridge
#

aus

prisma mural
#

look into keychron c-series and redragon k552

lime ridge
#

thanks

prisma mural
#

keychron might be a little out of your budget but it is 600% better than reddragon

lime ridge
prisma mural
#

I have a keychron myself, it is AMAZING.

lime ridge
prisma mural
#

gateron browns

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the best switches (real)

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nice balance between sound and tactility

rain sentinel
viscid tapir
#

brown switches are still better than most of other switches

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i like them far more than boba or yellow

rain sentinel
stoic tangle
glossy sandal
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they are different

rain sentinel
#

Not when we’re talking brown switches

glossy sandal
#

they are a light tactile

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that’s it

cunning anvil
#

i had a dream i liked my choc browns

glossy sandal
#

I don’t like light tactiles either but they’re not objectively bad

cunning anvil
#

are silent switches just another word for pre lubed

glossy sandal
#

Nope

cunning anvil
#

cool

glossy sandal
#

silent switches usually have a mechanism for dampening

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usually foam to dampen the bottomout

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it makes it feel mushy though, there are some other alternatives

cunning anvil
#

i think I'm gonna put different switches for different areas of the 100%

glossy sandal
#

this might be one of the weirder ideas you’ve had

cunning anvil
#

the 100 or mixing switches

glossy sandal
#

both

cunning anvil
#

like, heavier switches on locks would be nice

glossy sandal
#

oh that’s nice

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I have a 150~g spring on my caps lock

cunning anvil
#

thinking if i want tactile legends

glossy sandal
#

but I mean using entirely different switches for different keys like alphas, mods, cluster etc

cunning anvil
#

since i usually game on 40s

glossy sandal
#

you want tactile alphas?

cunning anvil
#

i thought they were fun to type on

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idk much about things

viscid tapir
glossy sandal
#

yeah the brown debate is just people confusing subjectivity with objectivity

viscid tapir
glossy sandal
#

if you don’t like light tactiles that’s fine

rain sentinel
cunning anvil
#

ooh heavy clicky locks

viscid tapir
rain sentinel
glossy sandal
#

kind of hard to compare the two

viscid tapir
glossy sandal
#

seeing as one is a short pole and one is a long pole

viscid tapir
#

actuation on top is just like membrane

glossy sandal
#

you can just boil this down to preference

viscid tapir
#

bump makes it feel you are slamming them

viscid tapir
#

because of their insecurities they attack other people for their tastes

glossy sandal
#

I always go back to linears though

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using mx blacks in my build rn

viscid tapir
#

i got boba and yellow because people recommended them but i hate both

glossy sandal
#

62g springs filmed with tx

#

lubed with 107 and 105

viscid tapir
#

i am ordering brown switches again and will probably just thrwo them away

glossy sandal
#

maybe you’d like Akko’s stuff

#

they do some neat light tactiles

viscid tapir
#

i only tested lavender from akko

#

but i did not like them

glossy sandal
#

oo

#

interesting

viscid tapir
#

i was thinking of getting cotton candy or durock light tactile

#

i also like silver speed switches

glossy sandal
#

mmm

#

maybe you’d like long pole linears

cunning anvil
#

how do different switches feel for typing vs gaming

viscid tapir
glossy sandal
#

just weight and maybe material

#

there’s a bit more for tactiles

#

unsure about clickies

viscid tapir
#

yellow ones have key binding and extremely scratchy so i will just throw them away

#

do you know of any good silver speed or light tactile switches

sleek bronze
glossy sandal
#

yep

viscid tapir
#

looking for something like red with higher actuation and better return or brown with a little better but still light tactility

cunning anvil
#

randomized switches

glossy sandal
#

you’ve got lots of different types of springs and whatnot

viscid tapir
#

why are yellow switches on north wall so much scratchier than any other stock linear ones

cunning anvil
#

ooh extended homing linears lol

dawn swan
#

brown switches have been on the worst keyboards ive used and the least enjoyable

#

also the only switch that ive used where the keyboard has switch chatter the same day of buying it

#

had a corsair k60 years ago with brown switches and within 1 hour of typing i was noticing specific keys like D and E double and triple typing

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return it to bestbuy and the replacement has the same issue but on different keys

#

also used a logitech with browns and a clone with browns every time i go near the switch it sucks

#

color matches how it feels

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if you want a light tactile feel then just take a hammer to red or black switches and warp the stem

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will get the same typing experience

#

genuine cherry mx brown sucks, logitech brown sucks, clone browns suck

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would rather type on a 5 dollar dust encrusted membrane out of some pile of thrown out office supplies

urban panther
#

i kinda like browns

glossy sandal
#

I like browns

viscid tapir
#

it is funny because brown switches are most common switches among people so people like them it is just a trend to hate on them

#

it just shows insecurity people have that they have to hate on other switches

#

i have tested a ton of switches and out of 50 or 60 i tested brown switches are still my favorite switches out of them

sleek bronze
#

Isn't it a proof of insecurity to say that people are insecure because they don't like the color of a plastic thingy

viscid tapir
#

i am not the one getting upset over what people use

#

i respect 10eur keyboard as much as 1000eur keyboard

#

same thing happens in music industry people are so insecure they need to trash other people for simply enjoying their subjective taste

sleek bronze
#

I only respects 20% split keebs choc spaced custom layout self programmed qmk config splayed column staggered 3D dactylike

viscid tapir
#

funny thing is it is linus server and in linus video most people picked cherry mx brown switch the one they liked

opaque shard
native lintel
sleek bronze
#

This is probably because brown switchs are bad

#

Idk

native lintel
#

Btw, whats the difference between the G512 and the G513?

echo holly
#

Put some oil on those springs

native lintel
#

well, i kinda fixed it by smashing the key a few times. now its gone lol

high grail
cunning anvil
#

squish

sly crane
high grail
#

I accidentally spilled a drink on it

#

And was too lazy to clean it

amber tartan
#

its not a mechanical keyboard so instantly a -9

high grail
#

It’s superior to anything out there

cunning anvil
#

no ISO enter

high grail
#

What’s that

blissful dragon
#

iso layout enter key

high grail
#

What’s wrong with just a bar saying enter

blissful dragon
#

nothing

amber tartan
#

no BAE enter

#

BAE > ISO

cunning anvil
#

bae enter..

formal vapor
#

My minecraft, studying and browsing rig, I use a 60% keyboard with brown switches and o-rings lol
I also ordered logitech g305 because my friends kept trashing my mouse :<

cunning anvil
#

bae

formal vapor
proud glade
#

NK87 entry edition or gmmk barebones? I know they're not similarly priced but which one would have better thock overall? I think I want to use Gateron Milky Pro Yellows and some thick PBT keycaps. Looking for a budget range keyboard.

proud ember
#

What are some good keyboard that go thoc thoc whitout me having to lube all switch ans add foam ? Was planning on getting the lego keyboard because it switch Sound Nice

unkempt dome
#

Topre keyboard goes thock

boreal rivet
#

Topre

#

And silence

viscid tapir
#

owned it for years

sleek bronze
#

Just need the PCB for my next split

urban panther
#

keyboard feet?

cunning anvil
#

yes

sleek bronze
#

Yeah keyboard feets

#

I fear they are going to be a bit too slim

fading iris
#

im just dumb af

native lintel
#

Lol

valid sigil
#

Any thoughts or opinions on optical key switches? Thinking about getting the razer deathstalker v2.

urban panther
#

opticals are incredibly smooth

valid sigil
#

The main question on my mind is reliability.

proud ember
#

Yall i dont know jackshit about keyboard, and i want to change keyboard, i just want it to either do a big click, or go thoc, i dont want to lube anything, and im broke so 100 dollar max, and if possible it need to have the feel of cherry réd mx, any recomendation (i can always try building it if its ez)

valid sigil
proud ember
valid sigil
#

It was better actually! That said, when I searched for it on ebay (US only) there were a few listings with red Cherry MX switches. If you're on a low budget and don't need RGB, you can't go wrong.

proud ember
#

Alrighty, it has Red switch, but i like 60% keyboard, since i mostly game, any other ecomendation ? I was thinking of the lego keyboard cause its Sound Nice and its funny

#

?

#

What i was thinking of getting

chrome raft
#

bought blackwidow elite im beyond content

valid sigil
chrome raft
#

quality is amazing

#

and the media buttons are very helpful

#

for this price [125 bucks}

#

i really cant complain

#

also the wrist wrest is the comfiest one i used

valid sigil
#

Thanks! 👍
I guess I'll take the leap when I save up.

fresh junco
#

whats a good place to buy switches and keyboards from?

#

was looking at kineticlabs. not sure how reputable they are though

chrome raft
chrome raft
#

but yes kineticlabs is reputable

gloomy patrol
boreal rivet
#

Razer mice are good

unkempt dome
#

Razer mice are the only razer product that are worth it

boreal rivet
#

Their mousepads are also ok

amber tartan
#

and their egpu

boreal rivet
#

And their laptops

sleek bronze
#

What kind of color combination would you guys do on a split keyboard with purple pcb ?

#

I was thinking that i won't put the same color on each side

#

and different ones for thumb keys too

glossy sandal
#

white or off white

amber tartan
#

black

unkempt dome
#

yeah still the only razer products I would buy are some of their mouse ...

blissful dragon
#

^^

forest verge
#

Im just gonna start over, what would be a good base to use, want like 75%, wanna put either kaihl box whites or jades in it, rgb would be nice but if it costs too much over the non rgb version ill get non rgb

quick steeple
#

Are the RK keyboards and others, usually costly in the UK?

quick steeple
glossy sandal
#

that's around what it costs

quick steeple
#

It's probably over 60 in UK

quick steeple
glossy sandal
#

cool

quick steeple
glossy sandal
#

I don't have any links for vendors in india

#

they would probably be on aliexpress though

quick steeple
quick steeple
#

Chinese product

quick steeple
#

😂

glossy sandal
#

you can get them on amazon

quick steeple
#

Also, do you know anything about mousepads in the UK

#

I was going to buy the TechSource ones

glossy sandal
#

i just use a black one, not really into deskpads

forest verge
glossy sandal
#

does it have to be white

glossy knot
#

Hi, I like keyboards.

#

Would you like to see some of my collection? 🙂

glossy sandal
#

sure

glossy knot
#

Be warned it’s not normal or reasonable

glossy sandal
#

ooo

#

hoshizora

glossy knot
#

I love hoshi

glossy sandal
#

what's the red one?

#

one off?

glossy knot
#

Sinanju WKL project W and trailblazer keyboard

#

Was a private fnf run the finish won’t be done again

glossy sandal
#

mmm

#

i see

glossy knot
#

But there’s a public WK GB going right now

glossy sandal
#

also busy mat

#

rough or smooth?

glossy knot
#

NODDERS I like it rough

#

Once I tried first rough mat only buy rough really

glossy sandal
#

lel

glossy knot
#

So both mats in those are smooth

glossy sandal
#

hoshi is nice

glossy knot
#

I mean rough

#

Wtf

#

My fingers defy me

glossy sandal
#

i know a couple people who own one

#

the mint color was really nice

glossy knot
#

All 3 of those are rough actually

#

Yea

#

I didn’t get mint sadly had committed to lilac

#

But I love it

glossy sandal
#

also really nice

#

weight is definitely the big seller on that board

glossy knot
#

some more

glossy sandal
#

remind me again what it was again, a top mount?

glossy knot
#

pics

glossy sandal
#

f1?

glossy knot
#

I have it built as gummy o ring mount, but it can be top mounted as well

#

Frog

glossy sandal
#

or something else

#

ooo

#

frog is nice

#

that gundam board is really nice aswell

#

engraving is awesome

glossy knot
#

Yeah it's probably my favorite one honestly, just nice angle and height, extremely comfortable to use

#

So if you do 60% great daily driver but seems crazy dailying such a nice board.

glossy sandal
#

i usually use what i buy

#

don't see it any differently

glossy knot
#

thats my mentality, if I bought it I bought it to use

glossy sandal
#

but to each their own i suppose

glossy knot
#

not look at

glossy sandal
#

yeah it really is a looker though

#

oooo zooted on the tkl

glossy knot
#

Yeah it has an electro-polished anodized finish, so super shiny

glossy sandal
#

nice boards

glossy knot
#

Yeah I vinyl covered the TKL like a troll, so that one pic up top has it uncovered and unbuilt

glossy sandal
#

lel

glossy knot
#

That's Freedom TKL from Project W as well

#

themed after Freedom Gundam

glossy sandal
#

what's the 75%

glossy knot
#

Thera75 v1

glossy sandal
#

thought i recognized that badge

glossy knot
#

here's butt

glossy sandal
#

yeah the chroma weight is nice

glossy knot
#

I actually gave that one away in thocctober but I love the pics

glossy sandal
#

wish i liked flexy boards, the plateless on v2 was really enticing

glossy knot
#

so

#

So it has a new owner that'll appreciate it more than me. Exactly for that flexy reason.

#

It was just too much of a trampoline for my tastes and had to stuff with too much foam to offset it.

#

You could get it dialed in really nicely but it wasn't quite for me.

glossy sandal
#

mmm makes sense

glossy knot
#

Also kind of decided 75% not really for me.

glossy sandal
#

top mount isn't your thing?

#

75% is definitely one of my least favorite layout

glossy knot
#

thera75v1 could only be gasket mounted plateless

#

v2 changed that a bit

#

Not 100% certain every config for v2

glossy sandal
#

i meant overall

#

since you decided on top mount for hoshi

#

oring*

glossy knot
#

No, that was actually my wife's choice.

glossy sandal
#

it's your wife's board?

glossy knot
#

It's her build... I have another build I'm planning to do with it.

#

Yeah.

glossy sandal
#

awesome pretty board

glossy knot
#

I got it for 'her'... nice excuse right.

glossy sandal
#

who designed hoshi again

#

does she even use it?/

glossy knot
#

Oriqin

#

Yeah she uses it now and then but she actually says she likes some of my other boards to type on more.

#

She's seen enough she's just learned like Oo I like this one.

glossy sandal
#

nice collection, the 65% is really awesome

#

im a sucker for intricate engravings on brass

glossy knot
#

And her favorite atm is the Sinanju, I think just because it's a little shorter and quieter the way it's built.

#

and softer too

glossy sandal
#

what's the config?

glossy knot
#

Vint blacks lubed filmed spring swapped on fixed alu plate fixed by forced split backspace and split right shift

#

40a o ring drop in gummy mount, basically unikorn mount

glossy sandal
#

that plate is so cute

glossy knot
#

and by vint, I mean really vint. personally sourced from my job from 1987

#

And uuh vint hype is dumb.

glossy sandal
#

it is

glossy knot
#

You heard it hear first.

glossy sandal
#

doesn't really matter because if break them in via machine it's the same result

glossy knot
#

I mean it's interesting to use them, they've certainly changed in small ways over the years.

#

And they don't quite sound the same as newer cherry. But I'd rather use new hyperglides scratch and all.

glossy sandal
#

stock nos vint black vs stock hg black is an easy win for hg

#

nos vint blacks just feel like worse hg's

glossy knot
#

yeah even if they feel smoother, they're so much more loose and poorly put together by comparison

#

the housing/stem wobble you gain etc, not worth imo

glossy sandal
#

only actual bad cherry switch ive tried has been retools

#

those are not very good

glossy knot
#

they're like hyperscratchy I have an old PCB with some in it sitting about 3 feet away

glossy sandal
#

yeah they're bad

glossy knot
#

Just gonna use them for parts (the tops really) since they're free to me

glossy sandal
#

they're free?

glossy knot
#

I get them from my job.

glossy sandal
#

ah

glossy knot
#

Boss doesn't care it's a small operation, business machines for banks etc

glossy sandal
#

you don't take keycaps ?

#

og ds is really nice

#

and cheap aswell

#

or free in your case

glossy knot
#

And all the old outdated stuff we still phasing out used OG cherry and alps

glossy sandal
#

awesome

glossy knot
#

Yeah I have a mess of relegendables from them

#

.>;

glossy sandal
#

relegendables are nice but i can't find any use for them but like

#

xt rows

#

but i don't own a xt board

glossy knot
#

relegendable just for flexing ur f row I guess

#

I really wanting an XT board so badly.

glossy sandal
#

im considering 6xv xt

glossy knot
#

paulgali's?

glossy sandal
#

i don't remember the designer's name

#

only real one for me is ogr though, i love ogr

#

6xv looks a bit too basic for me now that i think about it

glossy knot
#

I think it's either the Series 6xx xt, or you clued me into some future Matrix board I didn't know about XD

#

Yeah it's very understated, not much pizazz but beauty and workhouse design I guess.

glossy sandal
#

yeah it was definitely 6xx xt yeah sorry

#

things go so fast i don't keep up with ic's much anymore

#

unless im really interested in something, ogr has peaked my interest

glossy knot
glossy sandal
#

that's really nice

#

the aesthetics remind me of gok alot

#

speaking of gok, i kind of want type-k for a alice board, I'm still on the fence about it though

#

but seeing as how long gok projects take, i still have time to decide

gloomy patrol
#

still waiting for more lily news

#

pain

gloomy patrol
glossy sandal
#

haven't seen it

#

send in badminton

gloomy patrol
#

sent

valid anchor
#

Got it for Free because of a friend
(and two keys not working properly)

gloomy patrol
#

the caps look nice

#

enjoy

gloomy patrol
#

I would check if any pins are ebtn adn if the sockets still work

glossy sandal
#

All gloros boards are

#

afaik

valid anchor
#

Spoiler: The HotPlug Sockets became detached somehow 😄
managed to fix that and a little QMK Configurator later

#

it works fully

gloomy patrol
#

great

#

glad you found a fix

valid anchor
#

and a suprisingly easy one to say
allthough unexpected

#

i mean the Hotplug Sockets detaching themselfs

#

How ?!#

glossy sandal
#

just gloros things

valid anchor
#

Also for those who want to know the Keycaps: Traitors Kabuki

glossy knot
# valid anchor How ?!#

That’s very common dirty secret the companies that sell them often don’t release is that v1 sockets only rated for 15-50 uses max varies depend when exactly made afaik

#

New hotswap not rated much better but fits many switches better allowing plateless hotswap etc

#

Even millmax sockets only supposedly good for 1000+ cycles

valid anchor
#

I mean it is good still but wasn't properly attached to PCB

#

As this was a NEW KB

glossy knot
#

Yeah their usual pouint of failure is detaching or the teeth inside get to loose

#

Glad you could reattach the pads, was it just bit of solder and they reattach?

fossil bronze
#

thoughts on the magic keyborf

exotic wyvern
autumn agate
#

Glorious ihatefrance

pseudo owl
pseudo owl
autumn agate
#

Hii

pseudo owl
#

For some odd reason I actually liked some red dragon switches at microcenter

autumn agate
#

Not redragon

pseudo owl
#

I saw Mx blacks there but 60 dollars for 110 didn’t seem so appealing to me

autumn agate
autumn agate
pseudo owl
#

Probably

#

Saw gateron and Kailh too

#

Lmfao the redragon keyboard was decimated

#

3 keycaps were still on it

autumn agate
#

W

#

I’m gonna put a singular gmk cap on there

pseudo owl
#

Lmfao

#

The switches felt handlubed

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Because there’s no way red dragon switches are actually that good stock

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Should I test @autumn agate

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I would actually buy some

autumn agate
pseudo owl
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Agreed

autumn agate
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Yeah wtf

pseudo owl
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That is weird as shit

autumn agate
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I got a screenshot if the mods need proof

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But they probably got logs

pseudo owl
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Yeah

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What happened

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Oh

exotic wyvern
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chat just got thanos snapped

pseudo owl
pseudo owl
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Hopefully

autumn agate
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Yeah do it

pseudo owl
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14 dollars for 24

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That’s like

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MX blacks

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More expensive than Mx blacks

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I’ll buy a pack

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Maybe some of their linears too?

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Would be lit PogChomp

pseudo owl
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70 of outemu is 24 of the redragon switch at microcenter

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I wanna do an overly budget keeb sometime

somber flower
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best compact keyboard to go with?

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used to have a corsair K70

blissful dragon
somber flower
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what's the top 5 you know of rn?

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and the best value option?

blissful dragon
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define budget

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the keychron v4 is a good option

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its 79 usd

somber flower
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hmm

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$50-$200?

somber flower
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beat a Corsair K70?

blissful dragon
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definitely

blissful dragon
somber flower
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you think I should try red

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browns are quite loud

blissful dragon
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yeah sure

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you could also swap the switches to milky yellows, they are good

proud ember
jaunty marsh
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im looking for a decently cheap keyboard (sub $150) that has dedicated media keys as well as being mechanical and RGB backlit, anyone know of any good sources of these keyboards?

valid anchor
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Aaaaand Donezo

QMK configured with the RGBness on layer 1 and layers shifted through holding 0 on numpad

forest verge
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any keycaps close to the katakana that aren't like ungodly expensive?

viscid tapir
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is anyone ever gonna sue candkeys

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the way they scam people and sell damaged items

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all my friends got scammed on candykeys

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we all received damaged switches and customer support is ignoring all emails

somber flower
viscid tapir
proud ember
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Yall, i think my keyboard is broken, can any of yall give me advice? Maybe i need to lube it

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Keys dont feel as fast

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And some get Stück like this

autumn agate
valid anchor
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Speaking of switches

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i just was putting an order together in Candykeys

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well now i dont

proud ember
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Give me idea to repair it instead

valid anchor
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want some more clicky ones and wanted to order some to try out