peripherals

[glossy sandal]

the gru

[boreal rivet]

Make sure you implement some kind of pressure fit keycap if you want to use those

They’re pretty bad without one

[glossy sandal]

mx what’s on your desk rn

the realforce?

[boreal rivet]

Yes

[glossy sandal]

#lit

you built it with anything special or running it stock

[boreal rivet]

I haven’t used anything else since I quit a few years ago

[glossy sandal]

why’d you quit

[boreal rivet]

It’s just stock with lube on the stabs

[glossy sandal]

we’ already had this conversation nvm

[boreal rivet]

Id rather not say

[glossy sandal]

kinda tempted to pick up a fc660c

those are lit

[gloomy patrol]

do it

[glossy sandal]

shur up

you don’t get a say

[gloomy patrol]

[glossy sandal]

mx you know any cool housings for fc660c

[cunning anvil]

what if i glue a penny on it

[boreal rivet]

Nope

[glossy sandal]

crying

[boreal rivet]

It wouldn’t last very long

[glossy sandal]

you trynna pick up the kfe ce we saw earlier

and hold it for me

for like a year

[boreal rivet]

I guess the norbauer one

But I hate how his stuff looks

[glossy sandal]

I love the pc stuff

[boreal rivet]

To say the least

[glossy sandal]

pc and colorful orings are so damn nice

[gloomy patrol]

im trying not to drop 1k on my own shii rn

[glossy sandal]

It was three fiddy

[boreal rivet]

The pc distracts you from how bland it looks

[gloomy patrol]

wait what

kfe for 350

[glossy sandal]

yeah lmao

[gloomy patrol]

any add ons?

[glossy sandal]

I think a hs pcb

[gloomy patrol]

can you tell bleach not to sell his stuff

it had me tempted

[glossy sandal]

no

ask him not me lmao

I know someone is gonna jump on the frog

[gloomy patrol]

the frog is tempting me hard

but im holding out

[glossy sandal]

for what

[gloomy patrol]

if i like the top mount on the high65 enough im holding out for a derivative

if i figure out im not huge on top mount then im gettting a plum arc

[glossy sandal]

only thing I care about the high65 is the layout tbh

everything else looks boring asf

[gloomy patrol]

lowk i fw the pc weight with underglow but im never gonna see it

it'll be a good reference point board

[glossy sandal]

pc weight?

[gloomy patrol]

yk i was considering grabbing a bake and using that as a tester and reference board

[glossy sandal]

link me the gh yeah

[gloomy patrol]

this doesnt feel like the right gh

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115908.0

[glossy sandal]

I mean

It’s the same layout

oh these are the same people who made the Hi-Finger boards

this should be interesting

[gloomy patrol]

im a sucker for pc and underglow

iirc it comes with both weights?

i might just end up using brass tho

[glossy sandal]

Reminds me of sunset tkl

so in other words, looks cool but boring as shit

[gloomy patrol]

sunset 80 was plateless right

[glossy sandal]

idk why zizz hypes up sunset80

[gloomy patrol]

i dont remeber it sounding all that nice

[glossy sandal]

it was mid as fuck

[gloomy patrol]

i do want a plateless board someday

[gloomy patrol]

pretty but boring

you saw the hex tkl right

[glossy sandal]

the one with gems on the case?

or what looks like gems

that was so fucking tacky man

[gloomy patrol]

gems?!

[glossy sandal]

hold on

[gloomy patrol]

i dont remember gems

i need to pull up the gh again

[glossy sandal]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=119480.0

this shit

I had it confused with another board

[gloomy patrol]

those look like those tacky cheap ahh gems you can buy and glue on to things

[glossy sandal]

that’s what I’m saying

[glossy sandal]

who’s this designed by

[gloomy patrol]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=119468.0

its from hex

[glossy sandal]

I know someone who was doing aomething verrrrry similar

[gloomy patrol]

weird

[glossy sandal]

almost uncanny how similar they look for the side and front profile

[gloomy patrol]

for a one off

or some designer designer

[glossy sandal]

it was talisman

Idk if you know them

[gloomy patrol]

oh

that names sounds vaugely familar

i cant place it tho

[glossy sandal]

he was in with hate

I could probably ask him about it but idrc anymore

I’m still eyeing type-k

I hope aftermarket doesn’t bite me in the ass

[gloomy patrol]

similar mount and stuff too?

[glossy sandal]

idk lmao

he only every showed the bottom and the side profile and stuff

[gloomy patrol]

lowk cf blackplate 😩

[gloomy patrol]

icic

[glossy sandal]

you must really like duck huh

[gloomy patrol]

i feel like that much run late enough that you have money by that point

[glossy sandal]

yeah for real

Gok boards be late as fuck

[gloomy patrol]

gok taking it slowwww

[glossy sandal]

well worth it though

[gloomy patrol]

was it type k before 7v r2?

[glossy sandal]

7v probably the best looking 75% on the gosh

[gloomy patrol]

7v and whale 75 make me wish i was a 75 person

[glossy sandal]

Whale 75 was boring for me

[gloomy patrol]

damn

[glossy sandal]

Lin works Whale though

so damn lit

[gloomy patrol]

whale side is still one of my favorite things

[glossy sandal]

love the black one

[gloomy patrol]

i would die for a whale tkl

[glossy sandal]

they’re like 400$ lmao

go buy one

markets down rn, no 300$ janes yet though

[gloomy patrol]

wait wtf

i thought aftermarket was crazy on them,

[glossy sandal]

for Lin whale?

[gloomy patrol]

never bothered to check

yea

i actually might buy one someday

[glossy sandal]

Literally

and it’s built with the best config too

[gloomy patrol]

so fucking tempting

[glossy sandal]

pick it up dawg

you won’t

[gloomy patrol]

honestly im not gonna pick it up rn

[glossy sandal]

you coulda picked it up and sold it to me later

[gloomy patrol]

why is everything i want buyable so quickly

[glossy sandal]

or let me try it you feel me

ship me your tiger Lowkey

I haven’t built one and Lowkey curious

[gloomy patrol]

its nothing special tbh

i like the config i got going tho

[glossy sandal]

Bleach made it look so fun to play with Lowkey

[gloomy patrol]

bleach went from praising the tiger to cussing it out to praising it

[glossy sandal]

the flex is so much it’s not even funny

push too hard on it and the switches’ll come flying out

[glossy sandal]

LMAOOO FR

and now he’s already sold it

[gloomy patrol]

im only concerned abt breaking it sometimes

[glossy sandal]

had a tiger for like fucking 2 days lmao

[gloomy patrol]

its so weird

i've seen him go this is one of my favorrite typing experiences i have ever tried

[glossy sandal]

he waited a week or something to get it delivered and sold it as soon as he got it

[gloomy patrol]

to sold within weeks

[glossy sandal]

And then list it on mm lmao

[gloomy patrol]

adult money shit

[glossy sandal]

it wasn’t even weeks it was like 3 days

[gloomy patrol]

yea

[glossy sandal]

even less

[gloomy patrol]

the frog suprised me

i thought he loved that shit

[glossy sandal]

he literally told us it arrived and then built it the next day and now it’s gone by the 3rd

[gloomy patrol]

he took the time to build it with vint blacks

[glossy sandal]

he’s got big plans, maybe he’s buying a Jane.

[gloomy patrol]

and talk abt how fun it was to type on

to sold

[gloomy patrol]

doubt

maybe one day

but not now

kpop tkls frist

he also had a bias coming in

and the one offs

[glossy sandal]

oh yeah he asked me to keep track of nayeon

totally forgot lmaooo thanks for reminding me

[glossy sandal]

not surprising tbh

He’s had a frog before

Sold it too, not too shabby.

[gloomy patrol]

mans said half plate frog was one of hte nicest typing experiences out of everything he owned

top 2

[glossy sandal]

what has he gone through again

fuckin matrix lab

keycult

[gloomy patrol]

so fucking much

called matrix boring

[glossy sandal]

monokei

[gloomy patrol]

buncha geon stuff

[glossy sandal]

matrix was kinda boring Lowkey

[gloomy patrol]

kfe

[glossy sandal]

high key actually

cem3 pcbs mid as fuck

[gloomy patrol]

they look cool tho

thats one thing i'll give them

[glossy sandal]

his matrix lab board was prob my favorite tbh

can’t beat matrix lab finish

[glossy sandal]

aesthetically

[gloomy patrol]

same tbh

fucking love the look

im forgetting what other cool shit he owned

[glossy sandal]

@flint ivy when are you getting crp (pbt is better..!!)

[gloomy patrol]

im sure he had crp stuff at some point

[glossy sandal]

oh yeah bleach don’t you like xmi

I must’ve mixed him up with someone else

cause someone else I knew hated pbt

[gloomy patrol]

yea he looks xmi iirc

[glossy sandal]

yeah he had the uhh

[gloomy patrol]

how good is nk pbt

[glossy sandal]

what’s it called

hangul 21kb set

real koreaboo hours

[gloomy patrol]

rainbow hangul and red hangul goes hard as fuck

[glossy sandal]

I’m Lowkey so damn mad I’m not hopping on that xmi color config I showed you that one time

[glossy sandal]

it’s solid

[gloomy patrol]

cant you still make it

[glossy sandal]

idk if I would buy it if it on sale though lma

[gloomy patrol]

i got a good price

and taro is pretty

[glossy sandal]

yeah taro nice

the yellow accents are tacky as hell though

So are the blue ones

honestly no accent keys is the way to go with taro

[gloomy patrol]

ok ok i see yellow not working

but the blue lowk fits

[glossy sandal]

no shur up

[gloomy patrol]

and i like the novs

lowk

im gonna run novs

no accents

[glossy sandal]

I Lowkey hate novs on anything

just give me an f13 artisan man

[gloomy patrol]

there are some fucking fire novs

[glossy sandal]

idc lol

You wanna fite

[gloomy patrol]

yes

bring a newpaper

and a speaker

we need boss music

[glossy sandal]

got my dollar store camera: on

[glossy sandal]

what

what’s a newspaper for

[gloomy patrol]

reading

[glossy sandal]

this man reallt said knowledge is power

omfg lmao

[cunning anvil]

couldnt stack so now im squeezing it ig

[glossy sandal]

I wish you the best

why does it look like the mask of majora

[cunning anvil]

itll bring the end of days

[glossy sandal]

so damn true

[cunning anvil]

it also has sideways teeth if the pro micro is the mouth

[cunning anvil]

its angry now

[cunning anvil]

i wonder if i could pull a gamecube and make it so you can have addons with the extra pins

[cunning anvil]

still a bit iffy about that dpad stagger

[muted karma]

wdym with "pull a gamecube"

you mean because you could plug a modem and a gameboy attachment?

[cunning anvil]

ye that typa stuff

[muted karma]

I mean

why not

[cunning anvil]

got like 8 pins to spare

its rumble pak time

[muted karma]

DD time

[cunning anvil]

yknow what else has 8pins?

ethernet.

[muted karma]

[flint ivy]

I had desko

It’s cool enough

If I buy more sets it’s going to be dcs or dcs tho

Got my eye on dcs alchemy, sleeper and if possible a set of red alert or something

And sol dark

[flint ivy]

Rizma my beloved

[cunning anvil]

quick placement edit, but not sure if this looks more comfortable than the one before

turns out i was using too big a pcb

now nothing fits lol

[glossy sandal]

dcs or dcs

twice “yes or yes” reference

[glossy sandal]

Astro got sent 2 free Cyrillic kits or some goofy shit on his red alert order

[cunning anvil]

hey gas should i do hotswap for a measly 8 switches, since im not folding it anymore i figured id have the extra z to socket some stuff

[glossy sandal]

hotswap

what footprint

[cunning anvil]

choc v1v2

[glossy sandal]

they make sockets for that?

or can it take anything

[cunning anvil]

idk if they have v1v2 sockets, but they have v1v2 footprints

it might just be afootprint that takes a v1 socket or a v2 socket

[glossy sandal]

yeah why not

it would be a neat little thing

might have to design one without a footprint for pads though if for some reason it doesn’t work out

the min order on jlcpcb is 3 anyways right

[cunning anvil]

5 per i think

[glossy sandal]

where did you order the last one

[cunning anvil]

gdi choc spacing

[glossy sandal]

yeah hotswap doesn’t seem like the move

especially if it’s just 8 switches

[cunning anvil]

i mean if i already planned to get the sockets

[glossy sandal]

that sentence doesn’t make sense

Hi bdog wont be back#6969

[cunning anvil]

wdym

[glossy sandal]

idk I’ve read it like 4 times and it isn’t clicking

[cunning anvil]

if i was gonna get sockets for another keyboard, its not that bad to slap em in

[glossy sandal]

oh

does wherever you’re ordering from allow for some to be without pads and others with

would kinda suck to be stuck with one option

[cunning anvil]

i could overlay the hotswap and not hotswap footprints

and link em up

but id rather just have hotswap because im lazy designing

[flint ivy]

Wait gmk

Gmk or dcs

[glossy sandal]

mariaaaaa

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[cunning anvil]

sunset choc

[chrome raft]

you're stealing my thing

[cunning anvil]

lol

[glossy sandal]

do a flip

[cunning anvil]

sunset chocs on the back?

hmm

the switches are in 3/4 different orientations, but it fits

wait no theres clipping in the downhat on left side

[glossy sandal]

Owie

[cunning anvil]

just gotta sort out the rats nest now

[glossy sandal]

this might be the least hostile chat in this server

[glossy sandal]

the 100 artisan is so damn fire

[chrome raft]

maybe

milky yellow

[glossy sandal]

I don’t find this joke funny anymore

[chrome raft]

i very much do

[onyx summit]

Most

[glossy sandal]

you lie

[amber tartan]

i disagree

[cunning anvil]

totally forgot to include expansion pak socket, and now it wont fit anywhere :/

[chrome raft]

are you designing your own pcb

[glossy sandal]

do you not read anything in this chat

this is like the third afaik

[cunning anvil]

one was produced so far

thinking about getting all the pcbs at once so i can save on shipping

[glossy sandal]

crazy shit

[cunning anvil]

then have projects for whenever im bored

[glossy sandal]

make a normal layout

it’d be really funny

[cunning anvil]

so choc thinkpad 6 row layout?

mm yum

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

No one uses those

[chrome raft]

arent they usually ripped apart to make ergo clears?

[boreal rivet]

No

[glossy sandal]

you’re thinking of mx clears

[chrome raft]

ah

[chrome ocean]

Long shot, mouse related, anyone got the white sospacer grip (Newgate)? Looking for some detailed photo of that thing. Their product page only has one terrible photo.

[boreal rivet]

Literally just a piece of rubber you stick on your mouse lol

[chrome ocean]

Yep if I have that I'm getting out of plat and going pro next month /s

[glossy sandal]

I hope you’re ready

[hard glacier]

Can i use the bubble wrap as a foam mod

?

[boreal rivet]

Bubble wrap ain’t as dense as you are buddy

[gloomy patrol]

[hard glacier]

Anyways would u recommend it?

[amber tartan]

no

you can but it wouldnt do anything

except maybe making your board poppy

[glossy sandal]

wtf is this

[urban panther]

knob

[thorny whale]

Da knob

[proud fossil]

Hello guys, I have hard time deciding which keyboard I should buy. Im torn between a budget cherry keyboard and a worse brand with outemu switches. The cheaper brand one looks better and has wireless connection but on the other side cherry brand is known for it's quality iirc.

Is outemu switches that much different than cherry's ?

Actually I've bought a budget keyboard with red outemu switches which i'm not fan of, and I want to switch to brown ones.

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/nob-knob-banter-nobs-gif-26216903

[unkempt dome]

Some say they are better than cherry

Some say they are worst than cherry

[glossy sandal]

outemu makes so much switches it’s hard to answer this question

But basic prebuilt outemu switches aren’t very good, neither are rgb cherry switches.

Send both keyboards here and I’ll let you know the better buy

[unkempt dome]

Neither of those ... lol

[proud fossil]

Redragon zed k627p and cherry g80-3000s rgb

Not the best but i don't have lots of options at this price point

[glossy sandal]

where are you from?

if you’re in the US I would honestly suggest this over anything else in the price range

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4247

[glossy sandal]

If you’re not you can take a look at keychron and their V series, they should have something for you which would probably be a better buy than either of these two you listed

[amber tartan]

finally know someone irl whos into keyboards

[glossy sandal]

can you two make matching keycap necklaces

[amber tartan]

probably not

[chrome raft]

yeah

[glossy sandal]

that’s so rad

[proud fossil]

Im from Eastern Europe

[glossy sandal]

keychron is probably your best bet

keychron.de has a site for europe, since it ships out from keychron's warehouse in germany it'll be easier and faster (and hopefully cheaper) to buy any of the keychron v series boards

[proud fossil]

The cheapest keychron i can get is c1 here

And its still a bit above my budget

Like 20-30$ more expensive

Is gateron browns that much better?

[pulsar folio]

Not necessarily, it’s not really about the switches. It’s more about the overall build quality, material, production cost etc

In majority of “mainstream” consumer keyboards the switch types are pretty standardised and mostly a matter of personal preference

[pulsar folio]

What is your budget anyway? And what do you have right now? What do you normally do? Does noise matter?

[royal knoll]

have this one one the way with gateron pro 2.0 black
https://epomaker.com/collections/75-keyboards/products/epomaker-th80-se?variant=44281536217396

my first real mechanical keyboard, have had corsair mechanical so far

[hard glacier]

Can i use cardboard for sound dampener?

[ionic briar]

yes

cause no one prevent you from stuffing stuff into your keyboard

whether or not its effective at your purposes, idk

[proud fossil]

I have a trust gxt 834 callaz with red switches. I'd want my kb to be a bit more clicky and responsive but not too loud thats why I think I need brown switches

I could extend my budget a bit to the price of the keychron but it doesn't look as good imo and it lacks wireless connectivity

[boreal rivet]

No, instead you should use sheets of a4 paper

Or better yet use cement

[hard glacier]

Okay how many paper i put?

[boreal rivet]

As many as you can

[hard glacier]

Should i put tape on it

[amber tartan]

where

[hard glacier]

Behind the board

[amber tartan]

sure

[hard glacier]

What kind of tape btw

[amber tartan]

masking tape

[hard glacier]

Oh i just research putting tape makes it louder right?

[boreal rivet]

That right, instead you should slather cement over it

[amber tartan]

just enough to fill the board

[hard glacier]

No im doing it double

Also dont have a masking tape so im putting electrical tape.

[amber tartan]

ok

god luck pulling that off when you make changes

[hard glacier]

Okay how about double sided tape?

[amber tartan]

way worse

[hard glacier]

How about duct tape now?

[untold orchid]

electrical tape usually isnt that sticky, masking tape is ofc better for the purpose

but I can see how electrical tape would give a lower sound profile than masking tape

[pulsar folio]

wireless will probably either make it more expensive or be a bigger compromise on quality

Keychron has some wireless alternatives too that aren't too expensive (€60-80 range iirc)

after getting used to more quality keyboards, pretty much everything mainstream feels so extremely cheap and bad in comparison

I used Ducky One2 Mini for the longest time, also have a One2 TKL. They feel so insanely cheap. Sound like crap too.

This is not the case with the Keychron K6 keyboard I have, and certainly not the case with my Keychron Q3 keyboards

[boreal rivet]

hur dur metal means quality

[pulsar folio]

Keychron K6 is plastic

nobody ever said metal means quality lol

[proud fossil]

My current cheap keyboard is metal and it feels bad

The only keychron that is close to my budget from local stores is c1 tkl

[pulsar folio]

yeah, and even this topic is personal preference, what I consider "cheap feeling plastic", might be what others prefer

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=31441088315481

It's discounted here apparently. You could consider ordering from their site directly. I thought I was gonna get charged customs fee when I did, but I didn't. Though that might differ for you - I live in Norway if that helps

[proud fossil]

I don't think that delievery to my country would be free, but thanks for the help

[pulsar folio]

delivery won't be free, but if you're talking about customs, only one way to know for sure (I understand that's not something you can necessary just take a chance on though :P)

why do you need a new keyboard though? perhaps that's a better place to start

[glossy sandal]

Board

[proud fossil]

I built my entire setup from scratch bcs i was using a laptop before, so when i was deciding which pc components to buy didn't do enough research about keyboards and their differences and now im stuck with a kb that I don't really like. I want to replace it because it kinda feels cheap, stabilisers aren't stable at all and I realised that i want some tactile feedback.

[pulsar folio]

I would probably recommend saving up a bit then, stretching your budget a little more

[proud fossil]

I want it to match my other pheripherals (which are white), to have rgb, and i kinda miss having a numpad although i don't want a full sized kb

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[cold panther]

Ill keep it short, I want a OK or better mechanical keyboard between 70% and TKL sized with a budget of £75. Any suggestions?

ideally wired.

[warped tinsel]

who made this mf is not even lined up properly

[amber tartan]

whats not lined up

the nav cluster?

[glossy sandal]

Prob talking about the arrows

[amber tartan]

the nav cluster

its called a nav cluster

[opaque kayak]

Any experiences with the keychron k5 se brown?

[amber tartan]

its a keyboard

[opaque kayak]

You're really helpful thanks.

[amber tartan]

youre welcome

[glossy sandal]

alright tough rye

[amber tartan]

your mom is a fat cluster

sorry that was uncalled for

[opaque kayak]

What is wrong with you?

[glossy sandal]

he’s going through a tough ryme

[glossy sandal]

whaddya wanna know about it

It’s a low profile board made by keychron

and before you ask

it’s good for gaming

[opaque kayak]

Just wanted to know if its good for the price, or any other keyboards I should consider

Primarily used for typing and as you said, some gaming

[glossy sandal]

Yeah it’ll do both those rhings

it’s alright, low profile isn’t for everyone though

[opaque kayak]

I'm currently using a Logitech MX Keys but want to get some better switches but don't like most of the mechanical keyboards I tried (all of them were cheap ones so there is that). Would be great to try it before I buy it but none of my local shops sell it...

Also thought about the logitech mx mechanical but think (based on nothing but some amazon reviews) the keychron would be a better investment

[warped tinsel]

well keychron out of stock so im prob just gunna get a razer keyboard

[glossy sandal]

if it’s all you want out of a keyboard, why not.

[glossy sandal]

Better investment how?

[opaque kayak]

mainly the removable keys

[glossy sandal]

Ah I see

if you want something worth a better “investment” then I guess so with a mechanical which uses standard mx

because even though the ones in the mx are removable, you can’t really use any other keys aside from keychron’s own.

[royal patrol]

gastrail doesnt know anything about keyboards dont listen

[glossy sandal]

I know about as much about keyboards as Michael knows about audio

actually idk how much Michael knows about audio

[boreal rivet]

Michael doesn’t know shit about audio

[glossy sandal]

rip

[boreal rivet]

Dude just parrots what those people say

If you know what I mean

[glossy sandal]

@warped tinsel do you actually want keyboard recs or purchase validation

[warped tinsel]

Im fine with huntsman since one i wanted is out of stock

[glossy sandal]

which one did you want

[warped tinsel]

I dont need a enthusiast board

[glossy sandal]

ok

[warped tinsel]

i wanted keychrone q6

[glossy sandal]

what’d you like about it

[warped tinsel]

since u could switch out switches

[glossy sandal]

Ah

[boreal rivet]

Buy it from Taobao and get a proxy to ship it over

Keychrons are cheap as shit in china

[glossy sandal]

how cheap

[boreal rivet]

90 for a barebones q3

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

And that’s brand new directly from them

[glossy sandal]

pretty rad

still wouldn’t buy a q3 doe

so many other tkls in the price range

[boreal rivet]

I didn’t ask if you would buy one though

[glossy sandal]

general statement

[boreal rivet]

Point is they’re cheap if you buy from china

[glossy sandal]

A friend is doing a China haul pretty soon

Might have to pick up og double shots from them

[boreal rivet]

Are they worth a lot now or something?

[glossy sandal]

nah

I just like beige caps

and they’re like 40$

[boreal rivet]

Damn they used to be like 15 on ebay

[glossy sandal]

30-50$ depending on condition

or well how much work you have to put into them

and gmk classic beige is like 200$ so

[glossy sandal]

wait

what

[boreal rivet]

?

[glossy sandal]

do you take me for a flipper or something

[boreal rivet]

No I was just wondering why you would want og doubleshots

[glossy sandal]

ah

cheap good keycaps

why wouldn't I

[boreal rivet]

Fair

[warped tinsel]

https://www.duckychannel.com.tw/en/One3-RGB-White is this good

[amber tartan]

its a keyboard

[warped tinsel]

is it a good one

[last sable]

My very old corsair keyboard broke so I decided to get this weird retro hipster keyboard

[gloomy patrol]

swag

[glossy sandal]

damn

[amber tartan]

it types so yes i think

[stiff vine]

Hey. I have a question that sounds interesting to do but I don't want to fry anything in trying it

If I plugged in a Jack to Jack wire from my Monitors Headphone slot to my Motherboards Microphone port, would I be able to route my monitors audio to the PC and have it pick up?

[amber tartan]

not a keyboard question, respectfully ignored

[chrome mauve]

short answer, yes

[stiff vine]

Oh I am so sorry I thought this was #audio-tech

Legit

[chrome mauve]

long answer, the sound can be interrupted very easily without good isolation

[stiff vine]

I'll ask in that room if you wanna elaborate - I don't want to clutter this up with non-keyboard stuff

[glossy sandal]

respectfully, so nice

what a nice rye

[chrome mauve]

one 3 is good. definitely a big improvement over the one 2 which left a lot to be desired

[glossy sandal]

eat moree ice

[chrome mauve]

if you like the design, then by all means. but never hurts to check other companies

varmilo has a lot of keyboards that look nice

[boreal rivet]

Why would you ever do that

[stiff vine]

@boreal rivet I want to put my Nintendo Switches audio in my PC so that I could route it to my headphones using Carla and talk with my friends at the same time. Basically letting me hear the game and them with the same headphones

[boreal rivet]

💀

[chrome mauve]

mixers exist for that purpose

[stiff vine]

Can you elaborate?

[chrome mauve]

you can take multiple audio inputs and make it one audio output

[stiff vine]

Oh, I found a fix xD. In OBS, I go into my capture cards Advanced Audio Settings and just set the Audio Monitoring to On (specifically in this case "Monitor Only (Mute Output)", and it makes it audible on the PC. That is so nice

[last sable]

AJAZZ ak510

it has backlit

it was like $80

I was gonna get an old tandy keyboard but I wanted the windows key

it has very loud keys

gonna try it out for a bit

it also comes with some orange keycaps and a plastic dust cover

it is very loud tho which is kinda lame

very cool tho

also very heavy which is nice

i think it uses cherry brown copies

hold on ill record it

mic was like a foot away from the keyboard

[viscid tapir]

Ahh

Wtf

[amber tartan]

stabilizer moment

[viscid tapir]

What can i do now

[viscid tapir]

All with stabilizers are like that nos

[amber tartan]

show stabilizer without the cap

[amber tartan]

you flipped the stem

theyre the wrong way around

[viscid tapir]

Stabilizers came like that

I never removed them

[amber tartan]

this board doesnt support screw ins

[viscid tapir]

I am new to this

What can i do with this keycap

Is it gonna like like this

Or is something else

Do i use it like this

Or what

What do i do now

Guys

[amber tartan]

nothing to do with the keycap

your stabilizer is not supported

buy plate mounts

[ionic briar]

uh what, they are screw in slots on the plate

what else you gonna install

[ionic briar]

what is this keyboard?

q1?

[viscid tapir]

V3

Just new keycaps

Prebuilt

Hh

[ionic briar]

keycaps didnt give in anymore?

[ionic briar]

This is plate mount for refernce

[viscid tapir]

Oh

Ok

[ionic briar]

yea the stabs work with the stock keycaps right?

[viscid tapir]

They work yes but are also bit tall

[ionic briar]

its just tight

[viscid tapir]

Enter does not pull stabilizers but shift pulls stabilizers

[ionic briar]

so the enter key is stuck?

[viscid tapir]

All keys eith stabilizers are very tall

[ionic briar]

the keycaps are not fully in i think

[viscid tapir]

Shift and backspace pull tgem but enter does not even fit

I am only able to fit enter on one side

Do i push it harder

[ionic briar]

one thing before you try pushing the keycap even harder

you have your phone right?
lay the enter key on the screen, see if its flat against it

or its curling up

[viscid tapir]

Flat

Hm

[ionic briar]

yea i feel like its just the case of the stems on the keycaps being tighter than the specification allows

[viscid tapir]

Yes enter is way thinner

[ionic briar]

or the spacing of the keycap stems is off

[viscid tapir]

I bought basic cherry profile

[ionic briar]

how much did you pay for the whole thing?

cause everybody can make cherry profile caps
the problem is are they making good ones or crap that dont even fit

like cheap oem caps that i paid 10 bucks for a full size set is warped as fuck

[amber tartan]

its on the pcb not the plate

[viscid tapir]

I bought them on amazon idk 50eur or 60eur

[ionic briar]

yes
and thats where you screw in stabs will be

[viscid tapir]

I have no idea even stock ones are hard to fit on stablizers

[ionic briar]

after installation

and the v3 uses screw in stabs

see?
this is the thing that the v3 uses

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/zeal1_2048x.jpg?v=1471914411

[ionic briar]

but you can push it down fully right?

[viscid tapir]

Shift and backspace yes they are tall but work with stabilizers but enter and shift on right side are thinner and do not even fit on stabilizers they keep falling off

And i pushed as hard as other keycapd

[ionic briar]

hmm
might need some closer look at the stabilizer

kinda suck cause its screwed to the pcb but its not gonna rattle as much as most plate mount

[viscid tapir]

It works but enter is so thin it falls off

Because it is not set in enough

[ionic briar]

that means the keycaps is not in

you should not be able to see the stem of the stabs once your caps is fully seated

[viscid tapir]

Yes it is not tall enough

How tall does keychron one has to be

Works

I pushed really hard haha

[dusty valve]

@boreal rivet
I don't think you actually understand how custom stuff works

[boreal rivet]

oh no!

anyways

[glossy sandal]

is there no elaboration

[boreal rivet]

go check the audio channel

[dusty valve]

Apparently they don't realize that you can actually just pay people to make things for you

[boreal rivet]

dude thinks you can just commission any well known designer for a one off as long as you pay lol

[muted karma]

well

[dusty valve]

Yes
With enough money you can in fact have almost anything made for you

[muted karma]

depends on how much you pay

[boreal rivet]

yes

it sure as hell isnt 1300 though

[glossy sandal]

AV4

The board he has

Isn’t a one off lmao

[dusty valve]

You could almost certainly have something fairly custom for 1300

[boreal rivet]

fairly lol

[muted karma]

with 1300 you can order a single custom case

[boreal rivet]

1300 is like the total value too

[glossy sandal]

you can for some designers

[boreal rivet]

not even including labour

[muted karma]

cncing oneoffs is stupid expensive

[glossy sandal]

they’ll do the manufacturing and shit for you

[muted karma]

https://iv-works.com/av4/

this?

[glossy sandal]

Yes

[muted karma]

that is just some acrylic stack bs

[boreal rivet]

depends if you know where to get it made

[muted karma]

why would you pay that much for a very mid board

[glossy sandal]

It’s not acrylic stack though

[boreal rivet]

most of the value is in CNC keycaps

[muted karma]

it is

[boreal rivet]

apparently

imagine

[muted karma]

that is acrylic stack

[unkempt dome]

looks good ... gg

[dusty valve]

I mean, machined aluminum keycaps is definitely more custom than whatever pbt gb

[muted karma]

yea

but you won't get a custom set of alu keycaps for that money

[boreal rivet]

They likely aren’t custom

[muted karma]

can someone just link me the board lol

[boreal rivet]

It’s probably like the aluminium mizu caps

[dusty valve]

Sure, they're definitely more unique than what most people have though

[boreal rivet]

Ok and

Unique isn’t custom

[glossy sandal]

They’re made by an oem

[muted karma]

ok

[glossy sandal]

which isn’t custom apparently

[muted karma]

so does rarity determine if a board is good

[boreal rivet]

According to the community yes

[muted karma]

if I pull out my PPS caps does that make any board better

[dusty valve]

It's only custom if a Himalayan monk designed, produced and assembled all the components

[muted karma]

I mean it's still custom

still is a waste of money

[boreal rivet]

It’s only technically custom if they had it directly made by a manufacturer using files they had on hand

[dusty valve]

Or if they like

Anodized the case

Or drew a dickbutt on the back in sharpie

[muted karma]

gatekeeping customs smh

[boreal rivet]

Technically the right definition🤷

[muted karma]

ok

good for you

nobody talks of it that way

[boreal rivet]

I know

[dusty valve]

Technically if you write in the order box "please include an extra invoice" it's a custom order

[muted karma]

people also call it mechanical keyboards

when there is no definition of what is and what isn't a mechanical keyboard

[boreal rivet]

2 or more moving parts

Pretty easy

[dusty valve]

A mechanical keyboard is a keyboard that costs at least $200 and isn't sold by a major manufacturer

[muted karma]

so a model m is only mechanical if the spring is not pemanently attached to the flipper?

[glossy sandal]

[muted karma]

what is a major manufacturer

[boreal rivet]

Membrane technically also moves

[muted karma]

and if I make a loss to sell at 199

is it not custom anymore

[boreal rivet]

Stabilisers as well

[dusty valve]

If your average gamer has heard of it

[glossy sandal]

There is no threshold

[muted karma]

average gamer has bearly heard of wooting

[glossy sandal]

for mechanical keyboards

[dusty valve]

You can call it entry level

[unkempt dome]

wooting is not a major manufacturer yet

[cunning anvil]

lol

[gloomy patrol]

[muted karma]

so it is custom if you get the ISO-PBT caps

or the ansi PBT caps

but not if you get the ISO ABS caps

[dusty valve]

Only if you get it in a currency worth less than the euro

[muted karma]

you talked about USD

[glossy sandal]

just trolling at this point

lmaooo

[lime sequoia]

I'm fairly sure the average gamer doesn't even know what the difference between a mechanical keyboard and a membrane is. most gamers are not hardware people.

[muted karma]

most gamers are console people

or well

phone people actually

[boreal rivet]

mongs lol

[dusty valve]

No, mechanical keyboards are definitely defined by cost and accessibility

[glossy sandal]

they are defined by the mechanism

not by the price

are you dense

[muted karma]

so a used G80-3000 I can get for a tenner is not mechanical

[dusty valve]

Is a typewriter that I've modified to input into an ipad that I use for text input a mechanical keyboard

[muted karma]

this hp pavillion 500 with some non-descript browns is also not mechanical

because it is 14€

BNIB

[dusty valve]

Exactly

Also browns aren't a real switch

[flint ivy]

🤔

[glossy sandal]

trolling

[flint ivy]

What

[glossy sandal]

smartest gmmk pro owner

[dusty valve]

GMMK pro is only $170 or something
And your average gamer might have heard of glorious mice

Therefore

[glossy sandal]

Hey

[flint ivy]

Gmmk pro is dogshit

[glossy sandal]

What do you call the switches in the gmmk pro?

[flint ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-vec50-gif-22009533

[muted karma]

it has no switches per default

[dusty valve]

Yes

Literally not a keyboard

[flint ivy]

Gas

Christian is fast with it

[glossy sandal]

yeah

[flint ivy]

Bro already dropped it off

[muted karma]

also

[glossy sandal]

how fast he shipped it

[flint ivy]

I paid 35 minutes ago

[glossy sandal]

wtf lmao

[muted karma]

no need to say that gmmk pro is dogshit

it's a glorious product

[flint ivy]

It is.

[glossy sandal]

he was staking the fedex or some shit

[muted karma]

Skill issue

[flint ivy]

Ok?

[muted karma]

browns are a real switch

[flint ivy]

They are and browns are lit asf

The mx one

[glossy sandal]

what switches is it compatible with

mechanical ones

hence making it a mechanical keyboard

[muted karma]

so if I find an mx compatible integrated dome

does that make every mx compatible not mechanical

[flint ivy]

What the fuck are you saying

If it has mx sockets

Or any mechanical switch socket

It’s a mechanical keyboard.

Domes are not mechanical

[muted karma]

you could make that but mx compatible

i't just a rubebr dome

but in a plastic housing

[flint ivy]

It’s not mechanical.

[muted karma]

so a model m isn't either?

because that is membrane?

[flint ivy]

No it’s not.

[boreal rivet]

Mx plebs definition of mechanical is literally if it isn’t mx it isn’t mechanical lol

[dusty valve]

Hm
Wait

I guess all keyboards are mechanical

[boreal rivet]

💀

Technically yes

[dusty valve]

My phone has a mechanical keyboard

[flint ivy]

It has to have moving parts.

[muted karma]

[boreal rivet]

Phone is solid state so no

[muted karma]

the keyboard is software

so no

[dusty valve]

It was produced using a machine

[muted karma]

no

it was produced by some guy coding it

[dusty valve]

That guy used a keyboard

Which is a machine

[muted karma]

a tool

[dusty valve]

A mechanical tool

[glossy sandal]

the process isn’t the end result

[muted karma]

not a machine though

[flint ivy]

What keyboards you all be havin

[muted karma]

[dusty valve]

Why is a keyboard not a machine?

[muted karma]

right in front of me atm F2-84

[flint ivy]

Fuckin sick

I want an f2 but I’ve heard it feels like shit ass

[muted karma]

no mechanical power

[muted karma]

it's worse than an F1

can confirm

it feels fine

just worse

[flint ivy]

Yeah that’s what I’ve heard

[muted karma]

F1 V1 alu plate too good

[dusty valve]

I mean, the example given is a fax machine

[muted karma]

yes

[flint ivy]

I got a duck jetfire comin in da mail but I just shipped out my frog that I had

[muted karma]

which uses motors

or did you use fax machines where you manually had to draw through the paper

[dusty valve]

Anyways
If keyboards don't use mechanical power
Then they can't possibly be mechanical devices?

Therefore

No keyboards are mechanical

[muted karma]

no

a machine

keyboards are not machines

therefore stuff made with keyboards is not mechanical

aka

software keyboards are not mechanical

[dusty valve]

The software keyboard is made by the thinking rock in my phone

Which was made by a machine

[glossy sandal]

you’re reaching

just stop man

[flint ivy]

[muted karma]

if I pull a machined screw out of a drawer

did I make it

[dusty valve]

Well, you definitely got it

[muted karma]

so does the thinking rock in your phone

[boreal rivet]

Acshually it’s thinking silicon

[chrome raft]

are these switches reliable?

[misty crypt]

https://www.oneplus.com/ca_en/product/oneplus-featuring-keyboard-81-pro

what the hell...

it looks really nice tho

[muted karma]

well

it is a Q1 pro

with a different design

oh and different keycaps

[urban panther]

and no price yet

[muted karma]

that has to be one of the oddest features on keyboards

[untold orchid]

no switches are "unreliable" its literally one moving part

[gloomy patrol]

Me personally

I would never rely on aqua kings

That’s j me tho

[cunning anvil]

i just realized none of my keyboard designs have any way to "case"

should i just leave that to plate/case designing me >.>

and fab the pcb as is

[misty crypt]

the thing that confuses me most on the oneplus keyboard is why it has the keycaps labelled for mac

[misty crypt]

odd but actually pretty smart when you think about it, provided you want to use a desk for both computer and paperwork stuff

when i saw it i thought it was just to let you adjust the angle

[glossy sandal]

Because keychrons come with those

Why wouldn’t the re-skin follow suit

[misty crypt]

...oh huh, so they do

[muted karma]

Revolutionary

[blissful dragon]

why wkl

i dont get why people like wkl

[glossy sandal]

wkl good

Wkl 6.25u users should be executed

[pine mango]

I have a backlit keyboard for my desktop. When the computer is powered off the keyboard is still on. Any way to resolve?

[gleaming atlas]

Check the bios for options that keeps usb powered when off or try another port.

[pine mango]

👍

[thick pollen]

what sites would yall recommend for parts

[gloomy patrol]

where do you live

[thick pollen]

the US

[gloomy patrol]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[gloomy patrol]

divnikey, kfa, dang keebs, cannonkeys, novel keys

i can name more if you tell me which parts you are looking for

and what the budget is

[thick pollen]

im looking to build an entire keyboard from the ground up

and havent decided a budget yet

[gloomy patrol]

budget is the first place we shud start off

do you have like a general figure

150? 200?

[thick pollen]

id say between like 150 to 250 or so

[gloomy patrol]

that opens up some good options

what layout are you shopping for

[thick pollen]

layout like size?

[gloomy patrol]

yea

i can pull up an image if you want

[thick pollen]

sure

[gloomy patrol]

its a bit blurry

if you cant read it

just tell me how far from the top the one you want is

dont trust gas

at all

gas's name

is short

for gaslighter

[thick pollen]

um ok

but i was think probably 80% or maybe 75%

[gloomy patrol]

thats good

are you down to wait a bit

or are we looking for something instock

[glossy sandal]

tf is a gas

[thick pollen]

ya im in no huge hurry

[gloomy patrol]

this is gas btw

[gloomy patrol]

got it got it

for an instock option there is the tiger lite

[glossy sandal]

I ain’t even do nothing

[gloomy patrol]

and the monsgeek m1

[gloomy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/broken-window-gif-13748425

[glossy sandal]

put some respect on my name tf

[gloomy patrol]

life footage of gas

thats my glass door btw

[glossy sandal]

check badminton

bleach is out of his mind

[gloomy patrol]

bros plastered

i thought he had a lotta exp drinking

[glossy sandal]

lightweight ass

[gloomy patrol]

i . .

talking to a drunk bleach makes me feel drunk

[glossy sandal]

What were we doing here

techjesus

@thick pollen you with us?

[muted karma]

Looks good

You don't need 2 alt,ctrl an windows keys

Unless you use some cursed eu layout

And when has anyone used the menu key

[glacial marten]

Any recommendations for keyboards in the EU? I am mostly interested in mechanical keyboards and I write code and play games for the vast majority of the day so I dont mind a good investment. The only switches I have used are razer greens a long time ago and MX silvers right now

I saw ducky keyboards too that looked nice but on amazon one I saw said 1 to 2 months delivery so that put me off if thats the case for most of their products

[sweet lichen]

[glossy sandal]

Didn’t know vegas were having extras

[fair tulip]

Keychron if you don’t wanna go fully custom

[glacial marten]

not really looking for anything custom, mostly for the comfort/usability

[glossy sandal]

Comfort?

[glacial marten]

like

just nice to use?

I have a really cheap one and it feels like complete shit to use

[fair tulip]

Then Keychron

[glossy sandal]

if you want comfort I’d just say opt for a split

[fair tulip]

Good value goes brr

[sweet lichen]

It's still in stock right now

[glossy sandal]

nice

[sweet lichen]

https://typeplus.net/

[glossy sandal]

not really interested in vega but cool

[sweet lichen]

These are extra's so they ship by Monday

[glacial marten]

I have had some problems where my keys got pressed twice, is that MX silvers and me being an idiot or just something else

because it happens a lot with my current keyboard

[glossy sandal]

It’s just Corsair being shoddy

[glacial marten]

oh you even know its corsair

[glossy sandal]

:3

disregard gaming brands

build quality is lackluster

[glacial marten]

yeah I am not denying that