peripherals

[boreal rivet]

alps on flex plate 😔

[muted karma]

still a pretty inflexible top mount

[ionic briar]

who needs flex

[muted karma]

can feel nice if done right

idb for example

too bad nobody will ever own a non-scuffed idb

[bold orbit]

I agree with the earlier statement that a premium board shouldnt need any mods for it to sound good

hell the only thing i do to my boards when i build them is lube the stabilizers but thats basically it

[muted karma]

oh yea absolutely

doesn't mean that mods are stupid

there can be more than one way for a board to sound good

[boreal rivet]

still too flexy lol

[muted karma]

I mean

yea

idb is supposed to be flexy

[boreal rivet]

its too flexy

[muted karma]

for you maybe

[boreal rivet]

you gotta be a psycho to actually think that amount of flex is good

[muted karma]

why so agressive about it

if you don't hammer your keys or use like 150g springs it is fine

[boreal rivet]

i remember the switch pins were hitting the bottom piece of the case at one point

I just dislike the flex meme alot

[muted karma]

so only integrated plate or top mount brass thickplate is alright

got you

[boreal rivet]

as long as it isn't whatever bs material and mount people are using for flex then i'm alright 🤷

[muted karma]

I just didn't want metallic ping on my orion

f4 is a good material to prevent that

[boreal rivet]

sacrificing feel for sound lol

[muted karma]

how is the feel worse

have you tried it

[boreal rivet]

nah

[muted karma]

then what is your problem

[boreal rivet]

if its obviously flexy I don't want it

[muted karma]

how is it obviously flexy

[boreal rivet]

fr4

[muted karma]

good joke

then show me the correct plate to use for this

the ones karolingian, hiney and snow sell are all FR4

they are not too flexy

because it is a pretty rigid top mount

[boreal rivet]

just use an alu one

[muted karma]

nice

link me

ah wait

not a thing

[boreal rivet]

make it yourself lmao

[muted karma]

would have to custom order

which costs multiple times of what 5 fr4 plates cost

lemme check how much I paid

42€

half of that was shipping and taxes

[boreal rivet]

hiney has the drawings available just send it to someone who can lasercut a piece

[muted karma]

I made my own drawing lol

[boreal rivet]

that also works

[muted karma]

also hiney does not specify which caps works on his plates

I didn't want to use AT101 caps

if I wanted to I could have just used the snow stuff I already had

[boreal rivet]

yeah I modified his files for the caps I got

i mean you made your own so its not a problem

[muted karma]

with my own plate I can just use DCS and no scuffed alps stabs

[boreal rivet]

uh yeah

[muted karma]

vs alu I might have an ever so slightly softer bottom out

but it is alps

already the case

[vapid wigeon]

Hey guys, do you know any good 100% PCB? or should I just make my own?

I know this is super uncommon on custom keyboards, but I use the numpad a lot, as well as arrow keys, page up / down, delete, home, end. That‘s why I want a full size keyboard. And yes, there‘s the 1800 standard, but I don‘t like it

[opaque shard]

I don't know of a specific one, but I would expect it to be simple to find one

Or even one that is open source, so you can order the print yourself

[muted karma]

not many fullsize customs around so might not be suuuuper easy

https://null-src.com/posts/nkbm-st110r2/post.php

was one I could find quickly that is not in a G80 layout

[vapid wigeon]

Thank you very much. I didn‘t think about the possibility of finding open source layouts lol.

[latent forge]

Hey guys, what do you think of wooting 60HE? Is it any good? Are there any better "Rapid trigger"-ish keyboards (except apex)?

And is it even possible to build custom hall effect sensors switch keyboard?

[glossy sandal]

First question, it’s like the only keyboard that’ll actually improve your gaming performance assuming you take advantage of the .1mm actuation or whatever

second question, you can put the wooting pcb in a custom tray mount case assuming it uses standard mounting points so yes I guess?

you can also use whatever standard 60% layout keycaps so I guess you could turn it into a custom?

[latent forge]

Yeah thx

[latent forge]

I meant is it possible to use their switches in different PCB? (e.g. if I wanna make 75% or smth)

[glossy sandal]

No

[latent forge]

Ok thx for the answers

[glossy sandal]

Maybe you’d like the Hera H1

Or well the H1-Hera

It doesn’t use customizable actuation point but it does use Hall effect

[latent forge]

That looks neat

[latent forge]

I think it actually does

[glossy sandal]

Oh, cool.

Havent caught up with it in a while

All I know they had some issues with the kickstarter

they’ve been resolved afaik but join their server I guess

[latent forge]

But Im a bit confused how to buy it xD
kickstarter page sends to the indiegogo, but its not available any more on the indiegogo

[glossy sandal]

join their discord server?

[latent forge]

Can you send an invite pls?

[glossy sandal]

Like I said I haven’t been caught up with the project in a year or so

I’ve forgotten about it

[glossy sandal]

not in it, sorry.

[latent forge]

Ok, thx anyways

[chrome raft]

interesting

you're as active in here as I am in the main pc channels

[glossy sandal]

ok

[chrome raft]

what board do you use ._.

[glossy sandal]

using a 40% rn

[gilded forum]

Anyone tried cxa caps?

I might get a set but idk yet

[sly crane]

Which keyboard is this, anyone?

[gilded forum]

Apex pro tkl (I think )

[sly crane]

Thx

[glossy sandal]

just looks like rounded top cherry profile

It even says it’s similar to cherry in the description

so a scooped version of cherry ??

I’m guessing similar to dss then, dss is nice but I hate centered legends.

[onyx summit]

i hate you

[glossy sandal]

lyt

[onyx summit]

do you hate it more then this

or this

[glossy sandal]

These images aren’t loading so

no comment

Ah

I actually like the second ones

silly funny

top are just badly produced keycaps

[onyx summit]

i hate you

[glossy sandal]

lyt

[chrome raft]

if i were to switch to a wireless keyboard, would i feel the difference between it and a wired keyboard ?

[glossy sandal]

2.4ghz, no
Bluetooth, not really either

[chrome raft]

bluetooth mouse yes bluetooth keyboard most likely not

[glossy sandal]

I’ve used both, I don’t know if it varies from mouse to mouse but I didn’t notice any noticeable different either

[chrome raft]

the few that i've used were hellish

what are some good pre lubed switches that have a good thock and arent too expensive

would cherry mx speed silvers with lube sound thoccy ?

[glossy sandal]

is this satire

[chrome raft]

no

i dont know how this stuff works

After looking back i now realize how stupid that question was

[glossy sandal]

@twilit flare

@pastel drift

can you both dm me real quick?

[pastel drift]

al

alr

[cloud plinth]

Not much but better than having a keyboard with a big crack where you rest your wrist 😂

K55

[glossy sandal]

where’s the crack

[signal tinsel]

It doesn't have one

[glossy sandal]

I’ve been lied to

[signal tinsel]

No

He specifically said that the keyboard doesn't have it

[glossy sandal]

what am I looking at

Oh lmao

[cloud plinth]

The crack in my other keyboard

That’s a SideWinder X6

Microsoft

Corsair K55

[glossy sandal]

why are you eating corn flakes

[signal tinsel]

Why not

[glossy sandal]

joy depravity

[chrome raft]

ew

[chrome raft]

do not eat cereal next to a keyboard trust me

[signal tinsel]

This is a physical representation of mental pain

[glossy sandal]

sounds like a skill issue

[glossy sandal]

hey…!! I like them :((

[chrome raft]

no you don't

[signal tinsel]

Ok, but I dont

[glossy sandal]

ye I do

They are silly funny haha off center

[chrome raft]

ew you dont ping in replies

[glossy sandal]

ok

[chrome raft]

ok

[glossy sandal]

now what man

[amber tartan]

cheetos

[glossy sandal]

🐛

[south pebble]

took apart my old keyboard and holy shit

is it dirty

[south pebble]

(that's not a question)

[glossy sandal]

[remote solar]

Opinion on using the nzxt function as a stepping stone to diy keyboards?

With the gateron red pros seems like a no brainer if looking for a keyboard at the moment well piecing together a nice DIY The switches can be pulled after the fact and fit into your DIY also which seems like a decent stepping stone compared to buying all The switches, instead slowly customizing them to your liking after figuring out on sampler boards. Only thing I noticed about the board that could be a slight hinderance is that its a north facing pcb. Also supports 5 And 3 pin Switches it seems like

[slate ocean]

hey can someone recommend a brand/site with good quality or a large variety of centered-legend keycaps?

[boreal rivet]

you dont need a stepping stone, you can jump right in with like a keychron q something

just dont get sucked into the trap of buying recoloured linears just because they have like

a different plastic formula or some shit

its a literal scam

[remote solar]

Ahh yeah I was looking into an actual aluminum chassis instead of plastic for my first actual DIY

[boreal rivet]

the differences are so minimal that trying to chase after them is a waste of time and money

[remote solar]

oh crap eh that one is aluminum

hmm

Ahhh They dont stock it in canada thats why

I was going through mostly all the resources for the canadian side of Mechanical keyboards

200 usd plus tax plus import

nzxt function Can be had for about like 130 cad around here local

[boreal rivet]

function is also fine tbh

as long as you dont fall for the sound meme

[remote solar]

I saw linus' video on it and I'm still using a keyboard with 6 key ghosting

[cunning anvil]

thoccy woccy keeby

[remote solar]

Ahh yeah no

Idgaf about clicky

[cunning anvil]

i wanna try some silent tactiles

[boreal rivet]

with north facing you can sand your switch housing down for cherry caps if the interference bothers you

[remote solar]

Sick Didn't know that was an option will have to look into it

Tried the keyboard at the store and really liked the feel of it

popped keycaps off and checked it out

seems to be fully disassemble-able too, with screws and what not on the face plate

[boreal rivet]

most things are

[remote solar]

Most quality things are apperantly

my last one used mostly clips

[boreal rivet]

it can be quality and still use clips

[remote solar]

2 Screws through the bottom

Speaking of are Alps actually any good?

I have my Model M still Just only use it for really old stuff

[boreal rivet]

your model m is probably a better tactile than like every mx tactile out there

Alps are great

SKCM/L specifically

[remote solar]

Cool I'll have to see about pulling switches and trying them sometime

[boreal rivet]

SKCC as well but those are harder to integrate into a modern keyboard

I recommend keeping them in their original board

[remote solar]

They solder in?

[boreal rivet]

its hard to use them in a modern board because it doesn't use mx dimensions

you would have to make a cutsom plate

[remote solar]

I got the board out of the trash awhile ago

[boreal rivet]

buy a specialised pcb

[remote solar]

Ahh non standard dimensions

[boreal rivet]

make sure the case fits said pcb and plate

then keycaps

alps keycaps are all over the place

this amounts to far more than you'd want to pay i'd imagine

[remote solar]

Definitely

[boreal rivet]

they are best in their original cases anyway imo

[remote solar]

I just restore and screw around figured I should finally try a keyboard build

[boreal rivet]

yeah unfortunately the current state of the hobby is pretty sad

everything is made for MX

and it feels like every month someone releases a recoloured variant of a linear switch that already exists lmao

[remote solar]

I also have more non standard keyboards that i take home from work

[boreal rivet]

where do you work?

[remote solar]

CNC and machining

[boreal rivet]

woah

[slate ocean]

why are both akko and keychron closed for shipment until the 28th? i dont get it

[remote solar]

completely unused

[boreal rivet]

LNY

[remote solar]

Yeah found a martian board in the storage room

[slate ocean]

ah ok

[cunning anvil]

honestly wish id noticed i was using kailh hotswap instead of kailh choc hotswap footprints when building, i would like an LP board

[remote solar]

http://www.photologic.ca/martian.htm

macro keyboard

500 characters to one key

[boreal rivet]

what switches are they?

[remote solar]

I honestly havent checked

[boreal rivet]

I wish I could tell, forgotten most of what I learned about vints lol

[remote solar]

they were gonna toss it, Figured would save it

like 200$ board

[boreal rivet]

would be super useful as a macro board

with those relegendables

[remote solar]

Yeah their used still at the place as like start up commands for machines

[boreal rivet]

nice

[remote solar]

whole script to initialize the machine on one key for the employees

some places use em for like marketing and stuff

[sonic cape]

just recieved the Halo75

o m g the sound is absolutely incredible

the Baby Racoon switches with perfectly tuned stabs

and the weight make it soooo good

I have built multiple custom ones in different prace ranges , but for the 150$ this is unbeatable

[remote solar]

I was looking at some baby raccoons how are the feel of them?

[boreal rivet]

basically the same as the other gateron linears of different colour

[remote solar]

Heard they have an extended stem

[boreal rivet]

that just changes sound afaik

[remote solar]

does that cause more or less bottom out?

ahh alright

[boreal rivet]

oh wait it does shorten travel

[remote solar]

Hmmm

I might have to order a pack of 10 and try them on my wasd

[boreal rivet]

you won't find much of a difference in feel if you already have semi decent linears

this is what I mean by the linear recolour trap

[remote solar]

Gateron reds

[boreal rivet]

the racoons'll probably be slightly smoother?

[remote solar]

also seems like the activation is a bit sooner?

looking at the diagram atleast

[boreal rivet]

its the same

[remote solar]

idk I cant tell

[muted karma]

doesn't make sense with (local) pricing imo

keychron k-series offers a lot of similar features

at lower pricepoints

[remote solar]

for 120?

the keychron is about probably 290 cad once imported and converted

nzxt function would be 120 cad

[muted karma]

depends one the model

which size are you looking for

[remote solar]

full size

108

or 85% and a numpad

so a 85% tenkeyless

with a addon numpad

[muted karma]

yea then the function is quite a bit cheaper

[remote solar]

My current keyboard is the razer ornata?

[muted karma]

welp

both are better than that

[remote solar]

yeah haha

I got it as a gift awhile back

the whole mecha membrane

the ornata only has 6 key ghosting i found out

[muted karma]

you mean 6kro

[remote solar]

Err yeah

Has no key rollover

for anything more than 6

Noticed it playing a game recently and Didnt click until I used the microsoft Ghosting thing that Linus showed in his video

For years I think its been ghosting presses

[muted karma]

ah

apparently also has ghosting issues

[remote solar]

Yeah I never realized how bad it was

[muted karma]

https://keychron.ca/products/keychron-k8-pro-qmk-via-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

check what shipping is for you

and just get whatever numpad

[remote solar]

21$ + import

but theirs also conversion to cad

[muted karma]

should be cad already

[remote solar]

ohhh shhh ey

so yeah 190 for the full board minus tax

so 215 ish?

Definitely gonna have to keep keychron in mind , I didnt even see them well looking on the mechanical keyboard reddit

atleast the one for canada

I was looking at a lot of local stuff also though, Like board enthusiasts that will print chassis and stuff

Malvix does the mechrylic

https://store.malvix.com/collections/mechrylic/products/mechrylic-tkl?variant=41029125636279

Was another i was looking at that was 3d printed but can't find it at the moment

[sonic cape]

@remote solar

the baby racoons

are just fucking lovely

I have milky yellows, creams,oil kings and these ones are by far

[muted karma]

bth I'd rather go with this then https://www.makerkeyboards.com/products/scarlet

[sonic cape]

the most soothing ones 😄

[muted karma]

even if it is more expensive

[remote solar]

think i'm gonna buy a tester with them featured

couple that im gonna get put on a custom tester

[sonic cape]

When you buy the halo75

they give you free 7 swit hes

*switches

to add to your tester

the whole unboxing experience is very nice

[remote solar]

thats nice the double height stand

[sonic cape]

it was 150$ shipped, no customs charges and arrived rather quickly

yes

[remote solar]

Thats something that i really want in my diy

[remote solar]

that adjustable height kickstand looks so good

[sonic cape]

i built a tester68 few days ago

with some creams

much more stealthy

[remote solar]

I honestly also would really like that bluetooth capability for the steam deck

[sonic cape]

ah yeah

it has a lot of controls though

almost too many for my taste

[remote solar]

jesus

hit the wrong key combo end your boards existence by switching roms or something

[sonic cape]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[remote solar]

Are their multi rom boards?

Like Qwa? and Via on the same board?

[sonic cape]

eh

i dont think so

but ill check

[remote solar]

Yeah I just did a cursory glance but it doesnt look like it

[sonic cape]

yeah no qmk/via

but i honestly use qmk and vis

*via only for setting up rgb

and the i never use it again

[muted karma]

via runs on qmk

[remote solar]

Ahh alright so than im understanding it wrong

What was those 2 protocols

[muted karma]

via is just a graphical interface

that can be added to qmk

[remote solar]

That its like the realtek chip and the intel chip

[muted karma]

you mean zmk?

qmk usually does not support wireless stuff, not sure what magic keychron use exactly, might be dual mcus

[glossy sandal]

good morning

[muted karma]

zmk does though

[remote solar]

Why i was wondering about using a multi flashed rom for say dedicated wired but than to a BT rom when you want it

[sonic cape]

damn those switches

[muted karma]

ah

well

[sonic cape]

that sound ummmm

[muted karma]

you'd need to reflash your mcu for that

[sonic cape]

the "ghost" spacebar is smooth

[muted karma]

you could just have a different mode though

that you can toggle in

[remote solar]

OR is their no practical benefit on using a hardwire only ie like speed, update rate what not

[muted karma]

as in

just make a different layer

[remote solar]

I'm still just very new with that whole kind of stuff , Was wondering if that is even like a thing

[muted karma]

like just make layer 0 your standard wired layer, with 1 as an alternate layer for media controls etc

and then bind a key to swap between layer 0 and 2 as a toggle

so you get a different set of keys

and an alternate layer for that as well

without via you get more layers btw

but requires you to make a fixed firmware file

that you can't just change quickly with an interface

[remote solar]

Do they support pass through flashing or are you using like a external programmer on first set up?

[cunning anvil]

i got like 7 layers on my keyboard with vial

[muted karma]

wdym with "pass through flashing"

[muted karma]

yea vial is honestly just better than via at this point

[remote solar]

Errr through the Usc-C to the keyboard

[muted karma]

oh yea

[remote solar]

instead of to the chip with a programmer

[muted karma]

but if you use via or vial you don't even need to do that

[cunning anvil]

yeah

[muted karma]

the boards (usually) come with a bootloader on the chip already

so you just grab the qmk firmware with via/vial baked in already (if you have that option) and flash that on there via usb

[remote solar]

Ahh okay , I come from the time of flashing EEPROM chips so im probably over thinking the hell out of it

[muted karma]

no it is really easy

only board I had to do that with was the sesame

that has a 32A 40 pin DIP mcu

[remote solar]

Guessing it just didnt have a bootloader or something burned

[muted karma]

yea I just bought it loose somewhere

iirc

[cunning anvil]

oh yeah that chip

[muted karma]

was a simple matter of hooking up an AVRdude and flashing on the qmk bootloader

[cunning anvil]

i wanna build a keyboard with that

[remote solar]

Yeah I still have a couple programmers for chips like that around

I used to do bios reprogramming

[muted karma]

otherwise you use this https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox

which is just selecting your firmware file

and hooking up your keyboard in flash mode

usually a dedicated button that has to be held while getting plugged in

or something like escape

[remote solar]

Damn so its really just that easy pretty much arduino ide bootloader pass through im guessing

[muted karma]

and if you got auto flash enabled you just need to wait

[cunning anvil]

i installed coreboot with my bios programmer

[muted karma]

and you get all the available via firmwares over their website

[cunning anvil]

i hate grabbing those chips

[muted karma]

which is also part of the problem with via

[remote solar]

wait

qmk even supports pro micros

[muted karma]

https://www.caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware

[muted karma]

yes

[remote solar]

I have like 30 pro micros

[muted karma]

problem with via is that they need to add it to their repository to get supported

and that soemtimes takes ages

[cunning anvil]

pro micro is like the board

i like

[muted karma]

while vial just loads the keymap from the board

[remote solar]

I can totally make a numpad with that and a register bus probably

[muted karma]

oh yea it's easy with a promicro

[cunning anvil]

i literally have no idea what I'm doing with a pro micro and i made a keyboard, it's really straightforward

qmk handles everything easily

[remote solar]

I might have to print out a 20 something key numpad case today and try and make one

find a plate

[muted karma]

you essentially just have to enter in your rows and collumns

and define what button does what on which layer

[cunning anvil]

or if you have enough pins just put the switches between ground and gpio

[muted karma]

I made a (really crappy) one for work once lol

[cunning anvil]

no diodes in that case

[remote solar]

Yeah This has errr 12? logic pins

[muted karma]

to switch between programms on a device

[remote solar]

so basically split them in half with a bus

[cunning anvil]

half? bus?

[remote solar]

errr

Not half

[muted karma]

well

you can split them in half

6 rows

6 collumns

[remote solar]

It divides the data streams i mean

[muted karma]

a matrix?

[remote solar]

think its an io bus register

[cunning anvil]

like an io expander?

[remote solar]

yeah

Sorry Can't think of the exact word

[muted karma]

not needed though

[cunning anvil]

if you have diodes you can make a matrix

[muted karma]

you don't need diodes

but they are preferrable

[remote solar]

ahh okay So you dont even need a io expander than for 24 keys with 12 pins?

[muted karma]

nope

6 by 4 matrix would work

[cunning anvil]

and then it's like 1 pin per row or column

[cunning anvil]

wait what really?

[remote solar]

oh oh ohoh

[muted karma]

yea diodes just prevent ghosting

[remote solar]

I see now

[muted karma]

I would still recommend putting them in

[cunning anvil]

the heck is ghosting

ig this is why i always have diodes

[muted karma]

if you press A and D

it will also detect B as being pressed

without diodes

[cunning anvil]

that sounds

[remote solar]

I see though

[cunning anvil]

when is it preferable to have ghosting

[remote solar]

Thats really smart

[muted karma]

never

[remote solar]

I used to use io registers

[muted karma]

but if you are like idk

cherry

and want to cheap out on your new line of g80-3000 keyboards

you remove the diodes

[remote solar]

so a basic 4 x 3 right?

[muted karma]

I thought you wanted 24 keys

[remote solar]

all this could be done on 1 pro micro

yeah just as example though

easy to scale up once understood

[muted karma]

yea

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/blob/master/docs/hand_wire.md

here is an antiquated handwiring guide

[cunning anvil]

once i planned to design a "split" keyboard with an atmega328p and an elite c

[muted karma]

I used this when I handwired

[cunning anvil]

with 40 keys and 10 encoders :D

[muted karma]

if you 3dp a plate though just be aware that the 1.5mm from cherry spec will be too thin and it would flex way too much

I just made my plates thicker and made some cuts so the switches would still snap in

[cunning anvil]

then i realized handwiring thatd be pain and i should just design a pcb at that point

[remote solar]

I've got some prototyping boards

blank board with bunch of vias

[muted karma]

best method

[muted karma]

won't work for switches though

[remote solar]

Yeah Switches I was thinking about maybe seeing if i can print a socket but idk

[cunning anvil]

just string these together

[remote solar]

well those are cool

I mean technically I could also drill through and wire my switches in i have a planed pcb also

[muted karma]

something like this?

or wdym

[cunning anvil]

ooh i like that

[remote solar]

their like a pcb but just a ground plane ussually

[muted karma]

you might be better off just getting a premade PCB if you just want to make a numpad though

that runs off a promicro

[remote solar]

its just a pcb covered in copper

[muted karma]

yea ik

but you need to drill a LOT of holes

[remote solar]

Kek yeah true

[muted karma]

https://keyhive.xyz/shop/may-pad

something like a maypad for example

[remote solar]

I would have to do the 3 connecting holes and the 2 pin holes

for each key

[muted karma]

(if it were in stock)

[cunning anvil]

theres tons of pre made boards that just straight up take a pro micro

its nice

[remote solar]

Yeah I have about 10 of these boards and a couple of just straight copper planes i cant find rn

[cunning anvil]

pro micros?

[muted karma]

N

Blank pcbs

[remote solar]

yeah the via boards and pcbs

[muted karma]

Oh

Nvm

[remote solar]

I could probably solder straight to this but I would rather try and print a plate and try and mount this under

just so its not loose wires and such unless I can get everything to line up nicely

[south pebble]

i'm gonna get someone who can't type well to type on this keyboard

oh shit it's horizontal

but anyways just rotate your neck 90 degrees

[remote solar]

These are old Boards from when I did Repairs and such, Used to get prototype boards and cut out what i needed and wire up circuits on them

Although thinking of I wonder if A switch will fit into a bread board

I have a bread board nearly the size of a numpad to try out my build

[muted karma]

you can't mount it lol

the middle pin is in the way

[open cradle]

so in the video its 45 bucks but on the website its 130???

[muted karma]

yea not sure how they got that 45 USD price

[glossy sandal]

borgar

influencer discount

[open cradle]

bit scummy to show off a products price while using an influencer discount

[glossy sandal]

keeb yt moment

[civic ravine]

any suggestions for a keyboard similar to fujitsu kb521 with extra funtion keys and multimedia keys like the kb521? price reasonable.

[gloomy patrol]

What do you consider reasonable

[civic ravine]

i looked around couldnt find any. cherry had one almost like it but had no sleep button

[civic ravine]

under 100e

[gloomy patrol]

And what layout are you looking for again?

[civic ravine]

nordic

kb521 is only 30e, great price 😄

[chilly perch]

2 months ago it was $70. Not sure when it was $45 though, that seems wayyy too low.

[remote solar]

yeah not to mount on the breadboard just to put the pins into for testing

[open cradle]

the vid is 4 days old

they claim that this was just a regular discount and not on black friday or anything

[chilly perch]

Ik

[open cradle]

the other 2 items showed off r also way too low

[chilly perch]

oh damn

lttscam

G305 is $30 rn

The headphones seem like their $30 more tho so thats kinda weird

[real belfry]

do you guys recommend and keyboards?

[slow hamlet]

Why is the left shift so small

[urban panther]

huh

[real belfry]

did I say something wrong?

[urban panther]

recommend "and" keyboards???

[real belfry]

oh my bad

[urban panther]

your question makes no sense

[real belfry]

i mean any keyboards

[cunning anvil]

yes

[urban panther]

keychron

any keychron Q/V/KPro series tbh

[muted karma]

not an uncommon price

iirc bestbuy used to sell them for 18-25 USD bundled with a (tiny) mousepad

[chilly perch]

damn

I got a shitty amazon basics for wireless

[jade crane]

Hi there, so my logitech G910 is failing (double typing more and more often). I was told I should probably build my own keyboard and that sound compeling enough. What would be your recommendations though ?

Apparently testeur84 boards + outemu pandas switches would be a good way to go ?

[sonic cape]

you really wanna build or you want a prebuilt ?

[signal tinsel]

When you make it yourself you can replace a switch when the switch is broken

[sonic cape]

you can do it with prebuilts too

[jade crane]

I could probably replace my G910 switches too, needs some soldering but doesn't seem TOO difficult.

[sonic cape]

hotswap sockets arent unique to custom builds

[jade crane]

I don't have a strong feeling in that regard, as long as it's something reliable, and that it's not clicky as all hell cause that's ground for divorce apparently.

[sonic cape]

what size ?

[jade crane]

My wife is super tolerant of my various geeky hobbies (since she ain't much better anyway), but clicky keyboards of hell... that's where she drew the line 😄

[sonic cape]

full size , tenkeyless or smaller like 60%

[jade crane]

I do enjoy my numpad 😄

[sonic cape]

If you want a custom one full sizes one is a 96% (almost)

if you want a prebuilt one go with Iquinix or NuPhy

or Akko

[urban panther]

keychron

[sonic cape]

or Keychron yes

just trying to get people off Keychron

its a bit boring seeing everyone with the same prebuilts

[urban panther]

the advantage to keychron is they offer a ton of form factors

[jade crane]

good point, I need AZERTY (filthy french :D)

[urban panther]

i'd love more competition in the 96% - full size market

[urban panther]

idk if they have that
form factor is a better word than layout

[sonic cape]

halo96

[jade crane]

iquinix seems super expensive though

[sonic cape]

They are but their cases are super interestng

Akko has some 96% on sale

[signal tinsel]

ok

[urban panther]

Which model is that

[sonic cape]

Ocean Star 3098B

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[glossy sandal]

being different for the sake of being different

[glossy sandal]

Monsgeek M2

Check it out

[sonic cape]

Monsgeek M2 is nice

[glossy sandal]

I love weeb packaging

so +1 on nuphy

also the boards, the air ones atleast aren’t bad

[chrome raft]

guys

im looking for a keybaord around £70 tp 90 max range

idk what to buy 😭

[glossy sandal]

be a little more specific please

layout, region, preferences etc

[glossy sandal]

ok

[chrome raft]

👍

[serene obsidian]

Just hit 90wpm for the first time, I have a weird hybrid typing style and I'm very impressed that I was able to do that.

[glossy sandal]

so proud of you

[serene obsidian]

Wonder if I should do part-time data entry while I look for something more IT related.

[chrome mauve]

gives you something to put on your resume

[gusty ridge]

First build complete

[chrome raft]

guys

logitech g915 vs g815

i like having the keyboard on my laps thats like somtimes a meter away from the computer

but i also play alot of counterstrike

815 and the 915 are the exact same prices for me

is the 915 still better?

[glossy sandal]

[short bolt]

clean 🤤

[slate ocean]

Hey how would I get rid of that slight ting when I hit a key on my keychron?

[glossy sandal]

do you mean ping?

[slate ocean]

Idk, just a slight metal noise

[gloomy patrol]

did you forcebreak

[short bolt]

How do you replace your 80% PCB

[gloomy patrol]

what board

maybe you find a g80 one that fits

[short bolt]

i have an E-yooso keyboard

[gloomy patrol]

atp

just buy another one (another eyooso)

a good pcb is like $40

[short bolt]

idk where to buy them

[gloomy patrol]

.

[short bolt]

k

do you know any places that sell just PCBS?

[gloomy patrol]

https://novelkeys.com/products/hiney-pcbs?variant=42539077337255

[short bolt]

tysm

[gloomy patrol]

no guarantee these will work with your board or have the right mounting points

[short bolt]

ill look around some more

but thank you for the effort

[gloomy patrol]

@glossy sandal whats the cheapest g80 pcb you know abt

[glossy sandal]

wha

[gloomy patrol]

🥝

[glossy sandal]

outemu won't fit a g80 pcb

uses fucky dimensions

[gloomy patrol]

fuck

is it not just much much easier to get another eyooso

[glossy sandal]

it is lmao

[drifting mauve]

Is $30usd for a used rk61 a good value?

[gloomy patrol]

i doubt you can find a compatible pcb for under 20

[glossy sandal]

not really

seems about what they go for, maybe a little more expensive

[drifting mauve]

$29.43 after tax shipping and everything
w/ cherry mx browns

[glossy sandal]

cool ig?

cherry rgb switches are generally disliked

[viscid tapir]

I keep breaking damn switches

Not able to pull them out there

[sonic cape]

happend to two of my kailh creams

last week

[glossy sandal]

lmao

[viscid tapir]

they are working perfectly now

problem was they were actually glued to the bottom i noticed glue

second time they were removed nicely

and all of new switches work but wtf they spilled all over the place all over my monitor and speakers

[sonic cape]

good

[glossy sandal]

anything in the pursuit of thock

[gilded forum]

Do you guys think the new zoom 65 v2 will be better than the zoom 75

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[gusty ridge]

Fuck thock, gimme a keyboard that thunks

[amber tartan]

iron180

half brass chasis

or case although chasis sounds way cooler

almost 5kg when built

[gusty ridge]

Maybe when im less broke ill get the brass bottom for my sonnet

[main pier]

I have A budget for arround 40$ does anybody know A good one

A 60% keyboard

[glossy sandal]

Wormier makes some around that price I think

[serene obsidian]

I would recommend the RK61 but my newer one had multiple QC issues

[bold orbit]

I got a thing delivered today

[empty cape]

Nothing fancy but it feels amazing
Keychron V7

[wintry tangle]

Hello everyone! I am on the fence about the Logitech K860...does anyone here like ergos?

[urban panther]

sculpty

[gloomy patrol]

stepped 6tg goes hard

[wintry tangle]

What does this mean lol

[gloomy patrol]

look at the keys

6

t

and

g

[halcyon ravine]

Hi! I've been using a membrane keyboard that is in my laptop for the past 6 years, and I'm trying to move onto a normal keyboard, y'know. not in my laptop. Is there any brand that sells highish-quality membrane keyboards with small keycaps?

[gloomy patrol]

What is the budget

What do you mean by small keycaps

Short ahh keycaps?

[halcyon ravine]

AUD$10-70

[halcyon ravine]

Like they are physically thin keycaps

I think I may have found something alike what I am looking for

stupid long name but here it is:

edit:(or simply just Langtu L1 I don't know why I didn't think to just type that first bit into google)

LANGTU L1 RAINBOW BACKLIT ALL METAL PANEL 104-KEY ANTI-GHOSTING MEMBRANE KEYBOARD WHITE/SILVER

(Link: [Not sure if I'm allowed to share links in this discord, as many others don't allow link sharing, but here it is:https://langtustore.com/en-au/collections/keyboards/products/langtu-l1-rainbow-backlit-all-metal-panel-104-key-anti-ghosting-membrane-keyboard-white-silver) Its on that website but also amazon if you don't want to click the link 🙂

I'm generally cautious myself with clicking links, even if they're somewhat solicited, so thats why I wasn't sure if I could send the link ^

[chrome raft]

whats a good keyboard (75%) under like 70 dollars

[gloomy patrol]

stack your bread a tiny bit then get a v1

[chrome raft]

how is a C1

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Hot-swappable-Mechanical-Double-Shot-Tenkeyless/dp/B09JGBR31G/

[gloomy patrol]

i personally feel that while the c1 is just ok it is very worth it to save $15 more and grab a v1

[opaque shard]

I like ergo, but I'm more on the extreme side

[wintry tangle]

Lmao omg I googled it and everything 😂

Thank you

[opaque shard]

@wintry tangle Join the dark side

[cunning anvil]

oh that is

not a lotta keys

they're also not symmetrical

[opaque shard]

Ah wait, wrong image I guess

The left one is a failed prototype

[wintry tangle]

Sheeeeesh you could work in bed

[opaque shard]

This is like medium-ergonomics I'd say

I'm still bound to the flat 2D plane here, so it's not ideal in terms of ergonomics

But it's a good portion of the way there, and it's really portable so that's nice

[cunning anvil]

choc yum

i do like low profile

i tried to make a portable keyboard but forgot to choose choc

[opaque shard]

My next design is Choc Mini, so it's gonna be even more low profile lol

[chrome raft]

Lubed Cherry MX Brown and Think 6.5

[glossy sandal]

Think 6.5 pretty dope

[amber tartan]

mx brown mid

[glossy sandal]

mx brown hype

[chrome raft]

milky yellow

[ivory ingot]

mx brown lit

they need a springswap, film, and some lube tho

[glossy sandal]

All cherries do

[wintry tangle]

I will always lube em now. So much better

[chrome raft]

I need to get a crkbd

[cunning anvil]

i has a crkbd, its gud

autoshift good too

[glossy sandal]

Corne

[cunning anvil]

🌽

[short bolt]

guys, whats the best budget lube

[glossy sandal]

budget lube?

[short bolt]

yeah

[glossy sandal]

What does that mean

[short bolt]

for keyboard switches

lube

[glossy sandal]

if you mean cheap lube, just buy from a vendor close to you

205g0 can do an entire board(s) for 7$

[still pond]

https://novelkeys.com/collections/keyboards/products/nk87-aluminum-edition-batch-1?variant=42387116621991 what does washers not installed mean?

[boreal rivet]

are you just unable to read or something

[silk epoch]

kinda wanna get a goofy 40%

[gloomy patrol]

do it

get an orbital

30>40

[silk epoch]

even thinking just Vortex Core

basically minimal dimesions

other then height but whatever for height

[bold orbit]

the stabilizers dont have the plastic washers under the screws so there could be a chance of shorting the pcb (but i havent had any issues)

[still pond]

so do i have to buy a washer

[urban panther]

It would be recommended

[bold orbit]

https://upgradekeyboards.com/products/stabilizer-washers-for-screw-in-pcb-mounted-stabilizers

something like that, but they give the measurements

or you can swap the stabilizers for something else

[still pond]

is there a video on how to do it

[boreal rivet]

💀

[signal tinsel]

Find it on YouTube

[gloomy patrol]

hi

[viscid tapir]

i know it sounds cheap but does this mean they are settled in fine

they are a millimeter higher than on my old switches but they work fine

[sonic cape]

anyone has an idea to silence a spacebar?

foam causes it to be sticky

clear tape also

tape also

i tried everything it's either loud or it sticks and doesnt work

[gusty ridge]

Tried filling the spacebar itself?

[sonic cape]

yep

with different tapes,foams

o rings

[gusty ridge]

[sonic cape]

nothing works

its all sticky and doesnt rise as normal

[gusty ridge]

I mean if you vill the void in the spacebar it shouldnt be interfering with any of the mechanisms

How is it loud btw, can you post vid? And are your stabilizers lubed up?

[sonic cape]

il film it one sec

this is with the foam

this is without

[gusty ridge]

[sonic cape]

any ideas?

[gusty ridge]

Are your stabilizers generously lubed?

[sonic cape]

oh yeah

i just disassembled it

removed it all

and relubed them

clipped

[gusty ridge]

[sonic cape]

I do like emojis but yours are a bit hard to understand 😄

[gusty ridge]

Im not very good at this keyboard thing ive only built my one and it sounded perfect first try because im amazing. I'll have to leave it to someone else in here. Best of luck tho

[sonic cape]

i have great sounding

spacebar on all my keebs

just this one is

fffff

[sonic cape]

are you a fan

of the stuff on your profile pic ?

cuz i got this

and no idea what is it

[gusty ridge]

Thats just nuphys mascot i think. My pfp is from symphogear, the greatest series that has ever existed

[sonic cape]

damn

ok

[muted karma]

remove some of the foam around those stems

otherwise your spacebar will bottom out on the foam

also you might just want to lube your stab wire a bit better

maybe check if the stab housing doesn't sit especially tight

that is why people don't do brass plates

[sonic cape]

what do you mean?

brass plates are bad ,

?

[muted karma]

they sound bad

[sonic cape]

ah

I always thought they´re the best 😄

but its true that my best sound keebs have metal plates

[muted karma]

you can see exact spots what you need to cut out if you press it on a bit harder

[sonic cape]

and not brass

[muted karma]

to leave an indent in the foam

[muted karma]

brass is a metal

[sonic cape]

i meant

aluminium

[muted karma]

ye

[sonic cape]

or just some

alloy of sort

not brass

[muted karma]

brass and steel are not super popular cause they sound very harsh

[sonic cape]

yeah

they are heavy

nice

but its true that sound wise

its not the peak

[muted karma]

5052 alu is prob most popular for plates

[sonic cape]

I have two

tester68

[muted karma]

in terms of metals at least

[sonic cape]

theyre cheap but they sound absolutely incredible

[serene totem]

Hey, guys is it okay if i ask support question about keyboard here?

[sonic cape]

yes

[serene totem]

Thanks

[sonic cape]

its it not spacebar foam

i can help 😄

[serene totem]

I got this very generic mechanical keyboard as a gift, but since i got it i noticed that sometimes when im typing or gaming, one area of switches requires double or triple tap to register a button

but the funniest thing is, if i blow very very lightly on it, it works fine for few minutes.

But when i use compressed air it doesn't give the same result

so basically i thought it might be related to heat of my breath

but i also tried heating it in different ways, and nothing works, the only thing that fixes it for few minutes its my breath (LMAO)

But i was wondering what could cause the buttons to not register

sometimes it's W or D or R

https://www.wasserman.eu/en-bg/p/modecom-volcano-lanparty-wired-mechanical-keyboard-rgb-blue-outemu-switch-pudding-edition-black-263134

It's this Keyboard

[serene totem]

Maybe it's related to the scent of my breath xD

[muted karma]

most likely just horribe contacts

that get slightly better with the increased moisture

[serene totem]

Damn, you might be right - i didin't think about the moisture

[muted karma]

was a thing with mouse switches double clicking

where people thought it was related to dry air

similar situation though

bad contacts getting better with the moisture

[serene totem]

Are there any fixes to that? Like putting lube between switches

[muted karma]

if it is failing contacts

no not really

I wouldn't recommend spraying in contact cleaner etc

since it might not behave well with all the plastics involved etc

[serene totem]

Sadge, so basically i have to move to Thailand?

[muted karma]

no

you just buy keyboards that fulfil a minimal amount of quality

[serene totem]

🥺

[sonic cape]

buy a

rk61

cheap and will work better then this

[glossy sandal]

NuPhy has waifu for every bord

Like audio companies

[boreal rivet]

That’s just chifi

[glossy sandal]

I dindt know!!

[wise niche]

What's the best/most effective way to clean Under the keys in a membrane keyboard?

@ me if replied

[glossy sandal]

Shake off the loose dust and brush with something (dry toothbrush works)

[dense bridge]

sk96s vs gk96s whicj is beter for a good quiet gaming keyboard also what switch is quiet for both

illl get a gateron switch just idk what type

i jusrt dont know id mechancal or optical is better but i want it to be quiet but sill hasve that nice sound

[dense bridge]

@wise niche skae vaccum and then use a tooth brush with very light rubbing alchol adn the dry brush it

[gusty ridge]

Power washer and flamethrower

[glossy sandal]

what’d you build your sonnet with

[gusty ridge]

Me?

A ltt screwdriver

[glossy sandal]

I meant what’s the build

plate/bottom/top/switches/stabs/etc

[gusty ridge]

Black top/gold bottom, brass plate and weight, chinajoy switches (with some bonus lube on the bottom out and return contact points for a slightly more muted sound, quite happy with it tbh, 205g0 on switch and springs), durock v2 stabs with some chunky super lube, had to tune the space a bit with a syringe and 205. Tape modded w/ 2 layers. And cherry profile keycaps off amazon i thought looked nice.

Flash the brass. So pretty

Havent recorded sound tho sadly and am at work

[chrome raft]

Milky yellow

[muted karma]

I'll wait till mode makes a good TKL

maybe then I'll buy one of their boards

[gusty ridge]

I'll definitely vouch for the quality from mode at least on this one. Very nice board.

[gleaming eagle]

what switches are best for csgo?

[sonic cape]

thats very subjective

[gleaming eagle]

ok

[sonic cape]

but youd want

perhaps

speed silvers

the ones with the shortest travel time

[gleaming eagle]

i wanfast reaction tiem and good sound

[gusty ridge]

You're not good enough. Buy a 15 dollar bluetooth membrane keyboard

[glossy sandal]

All mechanical switches have the same reaction time

If all you care about is gaming buy a wooting or something

[gusty ridge]

If you genuinely want an advantage the wooting is the only real recommendation

[weary raft]

^^^

[glossy sandal]

even then the difference is negligible

any keyboard can be good for gaming

[weary raft]

honestly the best is whatever makes you most comfortable

[gleaming eagle]

i buy brown stiches

[opaque shard]

Wouldn't that be low profile switches?

[sonic cape]

theoretically yes

[urban panther]

Mmmm numpad ❤️

[chilly perch]

love numpad

[elder owl]

light wirebrush

though at that point you might as well get a better keyboard.... (no judgement intended, ik not everyone can)

[elder owl]

imho target around 50g of actuation force

travel and stuff like that are negligible to actually worse

speed switches as someone mentioned above I find I have a lot of misclicks from my fingers resting on the keys, not optimal

[elder owl]

Cherry browns? don't

If you want tactiles, there are loads of better options. Even outemu makes some good tactiles ie outemu pandas and gazzew bobas

[gleaming eagle]

kalih

[elder owl]

they're... not good

it's fine though

[dense bridge]

Gk96 vs sk96?

Epomaker

Or what’s a good full size mechanical under 120

[bold orbit]

fully built or a kit?

[dense bridge]

Either

I guess fully build

But I want a 100 percent or 96

I really like the sk and gk 96 I just can’t chose

[gloomy patrol]

Wait for v6 to restock

If you are find with a kit tho

Monsgeek m2

[cunning anvil]

still waiting on the pm

[remote solar]

did ya'll see the new keychron numpad release?

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q0-plus-qmk-custom-number-pad?variant=40375366844505

[glossy sandal]

Yes