peripherals

[glossy sandal]

Don’t like how it looks too much

[amber tartan]

f2 looks a little cooler imo

[glossy sandal]

i share the sentiment

[amber tartan]

but f1 is a classic

[glossy sandal]

this is true

f2 feel and design is worse than f1 apparently

or maybe I just buy frog/freyr and save for pc 🐛

[amber tartan]

go for the f1 if you want the sound

[amber tartan]

are you looking for only tkl?

[glossy sandal]

I wanted a stiffer tkl

but it’s whatever honestly

I could probably go off my own research but I wonder if anyone has any out of box recommendations

if I wanted 60 I’d def be getting arc60, 65: unsure.

[amber tartan]

scarlet tkl?

[glossy sandal]

considered, it would be between that and freyr

Maker keyboards have some weird shipping for group buys but it’s instock so just maybe

@gloomy patrol how much is derivative again

[gloomy patrol]

400s

That’s all we know

[gloomy patrol]

Arc 60 hs alu is p stiff from what I’ve heard

Gas are you a frl fan

And if you are grabbing f1 aftermarket then pc bot 😩😩

[glossy sandal]

Nope

Not even a little bit

That exploded spacebar on the 700e was stupid as fuck

[glossy sandal]

I thought it was like 600

Yipee

[gloomy patrol]

Damn Pluto was gonna be 300s

[gloomy patrol]

Hellva board esp for 400

Join me gas

Top oring relief

[glossy sandal]

Will it not be tharbly???

[gloomy patrol]

Fucking amazing side profile

[glossy sandal]

No morcly fuergly sound signature??

[gloomy patrol]

Double weight

[glossy sandal]

thwompy even?

[gloomy patrol]

Most sloppy thawpy whoopi keeb

Pretty thwompy with a hint of tharby

[glossy sandal]

need me a whoopi keeb

This pc build might the tharbliest thing I’ve done yet

[gloomy patrol]

Hear me out

Pc board pc case

[gloomy patrol]

Also you thought I had 600 to drop on a kit

[glossy sandal]

lel

the things we do for rectangles

[gloomy patrol]

If I get one that’s no more keeb stuff for the rest of the year

[glossy sandal]

I might have to go this year with no keebs

just focus on the pc

[gloomy patrol]

Pc is probably the better long run move

But this year for keebs is so good

[glossy sandal]

Not really

It’ll be obsolete in like 10 years

that board will stay thwomping

[gloomy patrol]

F1 timeless

But I’m the proud owner of the gmmk pro of pcs

[glossy sandal]

The dell?

Isn’t the gmmk pro like uhh

Victus or some shit

[gloomy patrol]

Rent told me it was a good comparison

[glossy sandal]

Rent forgot about us bruh

he called you my little brother

the embarrassment

[gloomy patrol]

Rent done left us

[glossy sandal]

all good lil bro

[gloomy patrol]

Ok ‘embarrassed to ask for tech support’

[glossy sandal]

[gloomy patrol]

Rent went off to grab the milk

You would never do that to me right

[gloomy patrol]

Oh

Anyways I’m off to dinner

[glossy sandal]

don’t choke

[gloomy patrol]

Think abt the

[glossy sandal]

ain’t no way you got a derivative emote

that shit is so funny

[gloomy patrol]

It’s in his server

[glossy sandal]

I would join but I Lowkey need to cut down on keeb servers

shit is taking over my life

[gloomy patrol]

I have around 50 keebs severs

[glossy sandal]

I have like 10 lmaooo wtf

[gloomy patrol]

Wait and I have 11 mutual servers w/you

I’m in most of them too

Lowk I only rlly use disc for keebs

[onyx summit]

I have 1

[dense solar]

How much space should I have between switch holes?

[cunning anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279347443361906689/1001236793099829248/unknown.png

[dense solar]

Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks a lot

[modest flume]

Best wireless keyboard recs?

[steep trout]

i finally got rid of my hyperx alloy orgins. I got a GMMK TKL. loving it so far. Always wanted brown switches and now I have em and love em

[urban panther]

Depends if you are okay with Bluetooth or not

Keychron has a lot of decent Bluetooth enabled boards

[modest flume]

Yeah ok w Bluetooth. Yeah I was looking at the keychrons

[urban panther]

Keychron K Pro series are pretty decent iirc

[modest flume]

Thanks

[urban panther]

They also have a Q pro model in the works (wireless enabled), but I don't think pricing is out yet

[modest flume]

Think it'll be out in the next 6-8 months?

[gloomy patrol]

Yes

[gloomy patrol]

Are you willing to wait

[modest flume]

6-8 mo is about my window for this next rig. I can always buy something cheaper and wait a little longer

[gloomy patrol]

And what’s the budget looking like

[glossy sandal]

Astro are you spreading misinformation online this early

[modest flume]

Work (typing) and gaming will be a big part of this build. A lot of typing. Might also get a separate macro keypad for faster templated inputs

[gloomy patrol]

Woke up 2 seconds ago

[glossy sandal]

same bruh

[modest flume]

Budget not a problem

[gloomy patrol]

Alr on the misinformation guide

[glossy sandal]

A number

[gloomy patrol]

Wait not a problem at all

[glossy sandal]

keyboards can get seriously expensive

[modest flume]

$200 or less

[gloomy patrol]

Fucking uh wind x aftermarket

Ok so budget was a problem

[gloomy patrol]

For the whole build or just the kit

[modest flume]

For the keyboard. Unless $200+ gets significantly more functionality

[glossy sandal]

Diminishing returns happen at like 500$~

200$ is fine

[modest flume]

Hm

What does around $500 get just curious

[glossy sandal]

Fossil

[modest flume]

I write a lot of reports so speed and comfort very important

[glossy sandal]

Oh wait that’s around 600$.

hmm

[modest flume]

And quality of course

[glossy sandal]

What size are you looking for?

[modest flume]

Tenkeyless

[glossy sandal]

Ayleen TKL would be my recommendation for that price range

Oh Nevermind

Sold out

[gloomy patrol]

Is ayleen even wireless

Gas trippin?

[glossy sandal]

Oh was that a requirement

[modest flume]

Not required just preferred

[gloomy patrol]

.

Oh

[glossy sandal]

Zoom tkl/Jris80/QK80 is the move then

[modest flume]

So what does fossil offer over the competitors

[gloomy patrol]

Man I was building up those

[glossy sandal]

I assumed you wanted full size

[gloomy patrol]

Derivative jwicks Shenpo

[glossy sandal]

so fossil is like the only thing within 500$

And full size

[glossy sandal]

cope or something idk

[modest flume]

Cool I'll take a look at the recs thanks

[gloomy patrol]

For budget switches you can check out jwicks and get yellers and ktts

For budget caps you can check out Shenpo and mistle

[glossy sandal]

Are you actually recommending a derivative

[gloomy patrol]

They said what could I get for 500

I was building up to a qk80 or Jris 75 rec

[glossy sandal]

Ah

Yeah qk80 or any of those should be wireless

Zoom tkl extras should drop sometime

Oh what it’s still available to buy?

@modest flume check this out please!

https://keebsforall.com/collections/zoom-tkl

[modest flume]

Ty

These look very nice

[glossy sandal]

Keep in mind it’ll be delivered sometime in 2023 q1

So in any of the following three months

air shipping is faster, sea shipping will take a little longer yadayadayada

[modest flume]

I guess with the keys I do go over the $200 that I said but this works

[glossy sandal]

what type of wireless did you need?

cause this is Bluetooth only, no dongle.

[modest flume]

Yeah BT works

[glossy sandal]

kk!

[modest flume]

Thanks appreciate it

[glossy sandal]

if you need help with the options ping me

[modest flume]

Will do

[slate ocean]

Anyone have nice keycap recommendations? Looking for high profile, full set (at least 100 keycaps)

[glossy sandal]

SA or

[urban panther]

If you're on a budget, Akko ASA keycaps are my go-to

[sonic cape]

for anyone intersted

Drop.com has a sale on the Marvel keycaps

only 39 down from 139

[glossy sandal]

Nice chance to try mt3 for cheap

[glossy sandal]

It came back to me now

do you have an opinion on Grado Labs?

[normal fiber]

is this worth?

[glossy sandal]

Sure

[normal fiber]

also should i spray paint my case lol

im thinking of matching it to that set

or atleast close enough

since i like the color blue

[boreal rivet]

Extremely bright

Not worth it even as a flavour can unless you just really love treble

[glossy sandal]

what does bright mean

[boreal rivet]

It has a high emphasis on treble

Dark is the opposite

[glossy sandal]

I don’t see dark mentioned a lot

is it uncommon?

[boreal rivet]

Yeah most people prefer a slight treble emphasis

Dark is something like the Audeze lcd2 and hd650 though I don’t really hear it with 650

[glossy sandal]

I have learned that earpad compression is bad and Ohm stands are bad

I thought they looked gimmicky

[boreal rivet]

Yeah they’re terrible

Nice aesthetic though

[glossy sandal]

I didn’t even know they were called ohm stands

I like how grado headphones look, they naise

[boreal rivet]

They’re shaped like the Greek letter omega

[boreal rivet]

Yeah nice aesthetics but ass sound lol

[glossy sandal]

Yes I know

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

That kinda goes with most headphones though now that I think about it

Empyrean looks super nice but sounds shit

[glossy sandal]

I like the SR ones

The mesh looks cool

[glossy sandal]

the cheaper HXX headphones look like school headphones

or maybe school headphones look like hxxx headphones, idk

[boreal rivet]

From an engineering and manufacturing standpoint empys are 💯

[boreal rivet]

Hxx?

[glossy sandal]

oh sorry

hdxxx

I knew I was missing something

[boreal rivet]

They just look kinda generic at a glance ig

[glossy sandal]

something like that

[glossy sandal]

why is there no good audio 🐛

[boreal rivet]

Just avoid hifiman

In all seriousness speakers 🙏

[glossy sandal]

I cant!1!1!1

[glossy sandal]

I actually don’t like how this looks

99 looks nice though

[boreal rivet]

Fair it can be too busy for some

[glossy sandal]

it looks like the bottom of a copper pan

[boreal rivet]

Did you know some 99s shipped with mold on them

[glossy sandal]

free snack

in all seriousness though, that’s really

what’s the word

disgusting

[boreal rivet]

Yeah well they suck too so you don’t have to worry about it

[glossy sandal]

that’s so lit, I wonder if I can escape hd6x0 though

[boreal rivet]

There’s hd800, clears, borealis, utopia, auteur and he6

[glossy sandal]

is this a meme

[boreal rivet]

No it’s real and uncomfortable as shit lmao

[glossy sandal]

that shit would weigh me down so much!!

who is buying this

[boreal rivet]

Don’t even know how it sounds because I couldn’t get it to fit on my head

[glossy sandal]

holy fuck man that’s crazy

[boreal rivet]

The same people who are like planar cool new tech must be good!!!

Probably

[glossy sandal]

This shit looks like speakers

on your head

[boreal rivet]

The drivers are ribbons I think

[glossy sandal]

who is coming up with these silly ideas‼️

[boreal rivet]

Oh no they’re amt

[glossy sandal]

does anyone actually like focal aesthetics

[boreal rivet]

Yes

I like utopia v1 a lot actually and the original clear

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

It grows on you over time

Especially for utopia

[glossy sandal]

This one

?

[boreal rivet]

Yeah

Focal speakers are also fire

[glossy sandal]

I meant like the steel pan looking ones

[boreal rivet]

Which ones?

[boreal rivet]

Oh those look quite good too

[glossy sandal]

it looks like a steel pan

[boreal rivet]

I guess lol

[glossy sandal]

I guess it could grow on me but right now it is not doing it for me

why do good looking things sound like shit

[boreal rivet]

Hd800 and auteur look pretty good though, bori less so in a traditional sense but still

[glossy sandal]

man audio is perplexing

[boreal rivet]

Oh yes and Philphone is really nice looking

Phil offers custom paint on it

[glossy sandal]

ok yeah that looks good

I give you that

Phil phone looks good

It looks like a clock

[boreal rivet]

Yeah it’s a audio Technica modded with a foster like driver

[glossy sandal]

wtf mod like tape??

[boreal rivet]

Probably more advanced than that lol

You might know him, he’s friends with some fairly prominent people in the keyboard community

[glossy sandal]

Who

[boreal rivet]

No clue

[glossy sandal]

Huh

[boreal rivet]

That’s just what he said

[glossy sandal]

who are we talking about

[boreal rivet]

Phil

[glossy sandal]

No idea who that is

I hang in a couple public servers

[boreal rivet]

Hm maybe he’s just in private servers

Dude is an og afaik

[glossy sandal]

I’m in a couple private servers, I stay in publics for fun

[glossy sandal]

Oh I thought Phil was a company

that makes a lot more sense

[boreal rivet]

Yeah it’s just one dude

[glossy sandal]

so lit

[boreal rivet]

Philphone is top quality stuff though

[glossy sandal]

he makes them to order?

[boreal rivet]

It’s like the only good bass focused open back

[glossy sandal]

or is it a kit and you make it yourself

[boreal rivet]

To order yeah

[glossy sandal]

not even if you throw money towards that goal

damn

[boreal rivet]

Actually he6 is also a really good bass focused open back

It’s just been discontinued for years rare as shit and basically a ticking timebomb since it’s early hifiman and they don’t offer servicing on it anymore

[glossy sandal]

Does this info just come with time or is there stuff to look for

[boreal rivet]

I learned all of it through google and interacting with people in the hobby

Though the thing with people is that you need to know who to trust and that takes some time

[glossy sandal]

can I trust you

[boreal rivet]

That’s up to you lol

[glossy sandal]

this shut ain’t no game! Damn!

[boreal rivet]

Be open minded and don’t be a dipshit

That’s all you need to do lol

[glossy sandal]

the latter is hard

but I will try

mx what do you use for iems?

or do you not

[boreal rivet]

Symphonium meteor

[unkempt dome]

Phillips fidelio x2hr are kinda dark

[boreal rivet]

I want to sell it though

Don’t use them enough

[glossy sandal]

do you not go outside

[boreal rivet]

I do they’re just a hassle to put on and off

Iems in general are just not for me I think

[glossy sandal]

I wish to try the etymotic

or however you spell that

[boreal rivet]

Though one of the best things I’ve ever heard was a iem

[glossy sandal]

what’d you try

[boreal rivet]

Subtonic Storm

Subtonic is based in Singapore so I got to try out the prototype

It’s amazing

[glossy sandal]

5.2 pence

that’s alot

[glossy sandal]

was it at a convention or similar?

[boreal rivet]

No it was just a regular meetup with some community members

[glossy sandal]

what’d you play to try them

[boreal rivet]

I just asked if I could join

Being not a dick will get you very far in audio

[glossy sandal]

do different extensions and adapters affect sound quality

[boreal rivet]

Objectively it should be negligent but subjectively some think they do

I believe analog cables do change things though having experienced it myself, not enough to care but it does make a difference imo

Best way to think about cables and adaptors is just to not care until you can afford experimenting

[glossy sandal]

that’s alot easier than i anticipated

[boreal rivet]

Yeah because cable memeing gets prohibitively expensive

So it’s really easy to just ignore it if you can’t afford it

[glossy sandal]

they look so pretty though

[boreal rivet]

Yeah people also buy expensive cables for ergonomics and aesthetics

[glossy sandal]

uhhh??

how is a cable ergonomic

[boreal rivet]

The weight, length and wire memory

Oh and durability is also a factor

[glossy sandal]

man this’ll be fun to learn about

how does a wire have memory

oh is it like how it retains its shape?

[boreal rivet]

Yeah

[glossy sandal]

that makes a bit more sense

and the ones that curve around your ear

that’s what it means by keeping that shape

[boreal rivet]

I think most people prefer cables that have less memory

[glossy sandal]

audio is a bit more complicated than I thought

thanks for answering my questions :))

[boreal rivet]

Yeah I learned more from audio than I think I ever will from keyboards lol

Outside of community drama and rumours I guess lol

[glossy sandal]

I will never use the different plastics outside of keyboards

I guess audio has a fair bit more practical use

[boreal rivet]

Yeah you get to learn about EEE

[glossy sandal]

bro isn’t that a chord

[boreal rivet]

And physics if you wish lol

[glossy sandal]

physics??

[boreal rivet]

ill dm you an example

[glossy sandal]

speaking of keyboards, have you owned a custom?

[glossy sandal]

ok!!

[boreal rivet]

oh I dont have nitro

Sound Reproduction The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms by Floyd Toole

[glossy sandal]

send it here and I’ll paste it in dms or something

[boreal rivet]

is an example

[glossy sandal]

oh sound displacement?

and room acoustics?

[boreal rivet]

this book teaches you about how sound behaves in a room and how you you can treat it for better results

yeah

[glossy sandal]

yeah that makes sense

I took a class or two on feng shui and acoustics were something we touched on like once

[boreal rivet]

no, I had one coming but the designer dipped lol

[glossy sandal]

which gb?

[boreal rivet]

its why i'm so wary of group buys

because the runner was a really good dude

[glossy sandal]

speaking of

[boreal rivet]

but he just took too many orders and too much work at once

[glossy sandal]

Charue just left

[boreal rivet]

a TKL version of the lumina

[glossy sandal]

his family in his discord are telling everyone to chargeback

[boreal rivet]

i have no idea who charue is

[glossy sandal]

you should get in on keyboards, it’s very boring :))

[boreal rivet]

the runner also designed baguette66

but you wouldnt know that because enjoy claims its his own design lmao

[glossy sandal]

the baguette is really pretty actually

food themed keyboards usually look like shit

point in case, Mc65

[boreal rivet]

yeah he was really talented

[glossy sandal]

it’s probably well designed because perry designs

[boreal rivet]

shame things worked out the way they did

[glossy sandal]

did you know the guy personally?

[boreal rivet]

yes I used to play cs with him

i dont hold anything against him, dude was just too naive

[glossy sandal]

damn that really must’ve sucked then

have you considered designing your own?

[boreal rivet]

I have but im too lazy

[glossy sandal]

You do mess around in cad right

[boreal rivet]

i'll try designing something compatible with vint switches after im done with audio

[glossy sandal]

speaking of that designer

did they just fall off the face of the earth

[boreal rivet]

yeah

just a very unfortunate series of events

[glossy sandal]

damn

I haven’t seen any issues with gbs recently

maybe the freebird tkl

the bottom case wasn’t flush with the top case and a different color aswell

the colors were off, and some other complaints

[boreal rivet]

I think runners just have more information and case studies to learn from nowadays

[glossy sandal]

sure but everything that’s coming out is so fuckinf boring :((

even 40s are slowing down

[boreal rivet]

the covid boom is disappearing i think

the hobby got a huge boost thanks to it

[glossy sandal]

you don’t interact with the community much huh

just a couple private servers and vint?

[boreal rivet]

no, I dislike the public community alot

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

the ones I sometimes talk in are private

[glossy sandal]

this one is public ?!???

[boreal rivet]

i'm in mechkeys to look at the yearly awards and idb because im in the private channel

this isn't really a keyboard server though lol

[glossy sandal]

I am kidding

mechkeys is scary

There’s too many people

[boreal rivet]

yeah its really chaotic

it was great for me as a cracked up kid

now I see that its really annoying lmao

[glossy sandal]

idb is interesting, I’m not in there though because I don’t really go in vendor servers

[boreal rivet]

its dead anyways

[glossy sandal]

I imagine the private channels are a bit tamer but it’s whatever at this point

[boreal rivet]

i dont think pingu really cares about the hobby anymore

[glossy sandal]

I’m just trying to have some fun with rectangles :))

[glossy sandal]

Dr. Pingu?

[boreal rivet]

oh wait no its pngu

i forgot how his name was spelled

[glossy sandal]

I was confused because dr pingu is a hard ass switch and click mod

[boreal rivet]

keyboard youtubers 🤮

speaking of switch and click

they have some of the worst articles on audio I've ever seen

[glossy sandal]

No idea

I like going there sometimes to argue

but then it gets boring and I risk getting banned :((

[boreal rivet]

read like they didn't do a single ounce of research

dont be a dick in a hobby you want to stay in honestly

[glossy sandal]

Is switch and click the most popular YouTuber?

[boreal rivet]

I'm only a dick here because I dont care about keyboards

[glossy sandal]

I’m not a dick

they were just objectively wrong and they like being confidently wrong

[boreal rivet]

then how do you risk getting banned

oh lmao

[glossy sandal]

yeah big servers have a lot of people

I wonder how many people here are actually competent

I think I’m competent, most people here don’t talk though

[normal fiber]

true

man im so deep into this that im now looking into another mod

the o ring mod

anyone know some good rings i could use

or does it even matter

just any would suffice?

[cunning anvil]

what is an easy to obtain pointer input method for i2c?

[glossy sandal]

This is actually really pretty, I like the fc660 design language

do you know what availability is like

[boreal rivet]

It looks like aftermarket only?

[glossy sandal]

yeah it’s pretty cheap actually

250$ for one

6u only is actually really interesting, it seems I’m locked to domikey because they’re the only ones who make 6u and lots of sets afaik

[boreal rivet]

Mt3 also has 6u bars

[glossy sandal]

I don’t like centered legends

[boreal rivet]

Ah

[glossy sandal]

too loud

does mt3 do blanks?

[boreal rivet]

I don’t think so

[glossy sandal]

wack

I like cherry profile more anyways

[slate ocean]

Does OEM or OSA mean the shape of the keycap?

[glossy sandal]

Yes

It means the sculpt of the cap and whatnot

oem is like cherry but taller, it’s what you’ve used most likely

[slate ocean]

Ah ok, thanks. Do you know any good OSA keycaps? I really like how they look on the keychron site

[glossy sandal]

I think that might be keychron’s in-house profile, let me try to read up on it a tad more

[slate ocean]

Oh that would be nice, thank you, I've been trying to figure out what they are exactly for a couple of hours

[glossy sandal]

I’ll let you know in the morning, it’s 0137 right now

[slate ocean]

Oh no problem, didn't expect a response. No rush

[marble gull]

Kaka

[boreal rivet]

Keychron's are all you get

there is another profile also named OSA but they are not the same

[slate ocean]

Ohhh ok, i was confused about that, ty.

[sonic cape]

finished Severance on Apple Tv+

and instantly had to

buy those Dasher keycaps

[urban panther]

nice

[glossy sandal]

keyboards

[gloomy patrol]

Thock

[glossy sandal]

shut up

[amber tartan]

#JustThockingAround

[daring helm]

is there a nice keyboard for gaming (low latency), good if it has RGB and it is like a slim keyboard, so the keys are not sticking out, up to $80? Im planning on buying a monitor to my laptop, and i just cant get used to the "high profile" mechanical keyboards

is there even anything like that?

[glossy sandal]

So a low profile keyboard

[daring helm]

i guess

almost like a laptop keyboard

[cunning anvil]

like, low profile mx or choc?

[daring helm]

i dont know what these are xD

[glossy sandal]

https://www.keychron.com/collections/low-profile-keyboard-collection

[daring helm]

no i mean like the keys are almost on the same level as the base like in a laptop

[daring helm]

idk if that is it because there is no side view

[glossy sandal]

this yours?

[cunning anvil]

no it was a quick search

i have a choc keyboard for reference

[daring helm]

somethiung like that

not that exact keyboard

[glossy sandal]

lol

[daring helm]

so i guess it has to be membrane

[cunning anvil]

do you want it to be mechanical?

[daring helm]

doesnt have to

[glossy sandal]

the mechanisms in switches need room

there’s pretty slim but they won’t be as thin as you’d like

[daring helm]

i mean its for my 12 y/o brother and doesnt like my custom mech and prefers his laptop keyboard soo xD

[daring helm]

that could probably work

[cunning anvil]

i have a picture of a more extreme side view of a different keyboard for reference

idk what kinda laptop he uses, might be thicker than your modern laptop

[daring helm]

a little bit thicker not much tho

whats the name of that keyboard?

[glossy sandal]

That is a keychron low profile board

[cunning anvil]

this

[daring helm]

okay thanks

[reef kayak]

anyone know what 60% keyboard layout this is? the keyboard is the KIT ADAM, and im not gonna pay double the price for switches and keycaps, but i cant find any keycaps for 60% that match this. can someone help?

[glossy sandal]

That’s 64 key 60%

[blissful dragon]

ANSI

[chrome raft]

rk84 solos

[glossy sandal]

lol

[chrome mauve]

how much of a difference do keycaps do to the acoustics

[signal tinsel]

A lot

[chrome mauve]

and now that's either a good thing or a bad thing

good thing is I can change keycaps

bad thing is I have to buy multiple keycap sets or something to see which one I like the most

[glossy sandal]

A fair bit

taller keycaps tend to have a deeper sound profile

Inverse for shorter

[crimson holly]

material also will affect sound to a slight degree

ABS tends to be higher pitched, whereas PBT goes slightly lower

[boreal rivet]

Don’t waste money for copium

It’s cringe as hell 💀

[glossy sandal]

erm actually it’s called establishing preferences ☝️

maybe don’t buy a set in every profile just to try though

[boreal rivet]

For profiles sure

But for sound hell no lmao

[glossy sandal]

I have established that I dislike spherical profiles

and that I hate uniform profiles

[dreamy spire]

What’s a decent wired keyboard under 200$ that has alotta macros

[gloomy patrol]

pre built? or custom

you can throw together a tiger lite build with that

[dreamy spire]

Ahhh idk

[gloomy patrol]

most customs have via

[dreamy spire]

What’s best

[gloomy patrol]

which means that you can make as many macros as you want

with 200 if you arent in the US i would recommend throwing together a tiger lite build

with jwicks if you want linears, jwk t1s or one of the akko tactiles if you like tacts

then some of the cheaper keycaps like shenpo or mistle

[dreamy spire]

I’m in us

[gloomy patrol]

if you are in the US are you are fine with 60s or 65s you can pick up a bakeneko

[dreamy spire]

Idk anything ab keyboards lol

[gloomy patrol]

ok time to go over layouts

which one are we looking for

tiger lite is a 80%/tkl

bakeneko can either be a 60 or 65

[dreamy spire]

100%

[gloomy patrol]

numpad is a must?

[dreamy spire]

Yes

[gloomy patrol]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39990023094361

[dreamy spire]

How many macros does it have

[gloomy patrol]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4246

[gloomy patrol]

do you know what a remaping software is?

[dreamy spire]

No idea

[gloomy patrol]

the keychon is compatable with a software called via

you can use it to make any key you want into a macro

[dreamy spire]

So like how do macros work

[gloomy patrol]

macros are essentially binding multiple actions to the press of one key

for example i can make a macro to type out hello at the press of one button

[dreamy spire]

Can I make one that is hold left click until pressed again

Or spam e key until pressed again

[gloomy patrol]

ok so you want it to continiously do something until its pressed again

[dreamy spire]

Yes

[gloomy patrol]

not 100% sure since i haven't made those type of macros yet

i think you might be able to

[dreamy spire]

And I need it to be within the keyboard so I can’t get banned for using 3rd party macros in warframe

[gloomy patrol]

@glossy sandal have you made those type of macros before

[dreamy spire]

Been told Logitech but what Logitech recommends me has been outta my price range

My stuff that it’s gonna be used on is on my profile info

[viscid tapir]

anyone knows how long does it take keygem to get back into stock

keep checking for lavender and they are out of stock for months

[amber tartan]

maybe you should join their discord for updates or maybe buy from somewhere else

[viscid tapir]

just did they said they will not have a stock before spring

all eu vendors are out of stock

official store would cost me 60eur with shipping included or 35eur on aliexpress but shipping will be in spring

[amber tartan]

you are SOL then

[viscid tapir]

ah

bs

[glossy sandal]

Nah

I don’t exploit in video games

[viscid tapir]

i guess i will wait until spring

[glossy sandal]

or order overseas

[viscid tapir]

import tax is huge for this

last time i checked

[opaque shard]

It doesn't even show 30% layout...

[clever bolt]

I like full size keyboards

[cunning anvil]

lots of buttons to push

[amber tartan]

lots of buttons to ignore more like

when are you ever going to use a home key

[cunning anvil]

i prefer to push my buttons more often than have more buttons that ill never push

hey

i like the home key

when you gotta get to the start of a line

[amber tartan]

go end or go home am i right

[urban panther]

same

[crimson holly]

i turned my nav cluster into a sound board lol

[unkempt dome]

Home and end key are something I use quite a lot.
F row is totally useless to me tho.

To each their own with the key they use I guess

[viscid tapir]

i also like 75% over 60% i use all function keys and other keys with arrows included

also i like V3 over V1 because it is much more symmetrical

[opaque shard]

I actually use Home and End all the time when coding. But I'm on a 35% keyboard so I have it on a second layer

It is extremely useful to quickly jump to start and end of the line

[gusty ridge]

Can someone give me recommendations towards a board i can actually buy? Every time i see something that looks nice its sold out or group buy.

Looking for a premium 75% hotswap. My only real criteria. I have my switches and caps already I'd be transferring over.

I get lots of recommendations for gmmk pro and the like but id prefer something weightier. I want to be able to kill someone by dropping it on them from 3 feet up

[meager junco]

Monsgeek m1 looks pretty good I’ve been considering buying it

https://divinikey.com/products/monsgeek-m1-75-keyboard-kit?variant=40335603761217

It’s a bit heavier then gmmk pro

[glossy sandal]

Jris75 happening soonish

full aluminum and a brass weight for ya

[glossy sandal]

Pause

Oops didn’t read no gb

Sonnet maybe if you don’t mind spending a lot

[gusty ridge]

ooh this does look nice

i want to consider something premium and extra as fuck, i dont mind spending 3-500 bucks. but like damn near EVERYTHING quality is group buy. and i despise it.

[quasi otter]

never really understood group buy

like whats the difference?

[gusty ridge]

i could do the whole ass bottom in brass on this thing but its an extra 240 bucks

fuck thats tempting

[quasi otter]

Its worth it

[gusty ridge]

brass for the bottom, weight, accent, and plate.

now thats a tank and a half

[gusty ridge]

its this thing the entire custom keyboard industry keeps doing to pretend its still ultra niche while shouldering zero risk and making the customer experience worse for everyone

[boreal rivet]

Interest free loan to the runner, a long ass wait and a higher chance to get fucked over

[glossy sandal]

assuming nothing goes wrong

in simple terms it’s a preorder

[gusty ridge]

basically you get everyone bought in before hand, then go to a supplier and make a limited run of the item. but now that the custom industry has grown to the point this shouldnt be necessary any more and brands should just be able to make products and have stock, they continue to do it to seem exclusive, drive up prices, create artificial scarcity, and protect themselves from their own idiocy

its what has put me off of building for so long

everyone on youtube talks about how this board or that board you can buy right now is a great entry board

okay whats a good premium board

idk lol go see whats on group buy and wait a year

[boreal rivet]

Well said lol

[gloomy patrol]

Cope

[opaque shard]

If you want really premium, make your own

Design the PCB, design the case

[boreal rivet]

Uh huh

But not everyone has the skills or the time to do so

[silent rapids]

Are there any Mechanical Keyboards out there that're Ergonomic / Natural shaped?

[glossy sandal]

I’m full of polyfil

[glossy sandal]

what exactly do you mean by that

something like Alice/arisu?

[silent rapids]

stuffed with fluff? Pooh?

[glossy sandal]

I’ll repeat

Something like Alice/arisu?

[silent rapids]

OG Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard

plenty of keyboards have copied the shape over the last 20 years

[glossy sandal]

Does this work

or do you want a full size ergo

[silent rapids]

I can do TKL? But I need dedicated F-Keys

[glossy sandal]

But we’re on the same page

[silent rapids]

I actually use them regularly

[glossy sandal]

Of that being a shape you want

[glossy sandal]

Something like this

[silent rapids]

it's at least close?

[glossy sandal]

Do you have a budget?

[silent rapids]

I'm shocked it's not something that seems to really exist, enough people buy them.

[silent rapids]

I'd prefer to not spend 400$, but if I need to spend some money, I can.

[glossy sandal]

one second

[silent rapids]

(I'm not expecting a 60$ corsair budget)

[glossy sandal]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q10-alice-layout-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[silent rapids]

interesting, looks promising.

although that FN key in the middle will 110% piss me off.

(Why TF did they put that there)

[glossy sandal]

What you’re looking for is niche to say the least

[silent rapids]

outside of mechanical keyboards, they're easy to find

MS, Logitech, etc. All the major player build them, but they're all membrane.

[glossy sandal]

you can rebind that btw

[boreal rivet]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-5000

👍

[silent rapids]

discontinued 24 years ago. Helpful 😛

[boreal rivet]

ever heard of used market lmao

[glossy sandal]

Also this

https://foxlab.store/products/sand-glass-ergo

It’s a bit more expensive though

[boreal rivet]

wow that is fugly

[glossy sandal]

A fair bit expensive

I think it’s nice looking

[boreal rivet]

how

[silent rapids]

1. I'm not paying over 500$ for a keyboard
2. that honestly looks terrible.

[glossy sandal]

I was close to buying one of these for my next

y’all making me feel bad

[glossy sandal]

I think you might like something more like the 4gt sabre

[gloomy patrol]

Idk whether I shud enable you or not

[glossy sandal]

you cannot

I need a new pc

[gloomy patrol]

I shall not

Go get that pc

What are you working with for the budget on the pc

[boreal rivet]

it looks almost as bad tbh

[glossy sandal]

you wanna fite

[gloomy patrol]

Somehow this is the only bit I like

[boreal rivet]

the proportions look wack

[glossy sandal]

1800$

[gloomy patrol]

The arrows are somehow right but everything looks so off it makes the arrows look off

[glossy sandal]

Give or take

[silent rapids]

this looks much more like a normal natural keyboard

[boreal rivet]

oh my god even the weight is bendy

wtf

[gloomy patrol]

wanna see some ergo keyboards

[glossy sandal]

I like both

[silent rapids]

yes, I want one.

[gloomy patrol]

Are you sure

[glossy sandal]

lord

[silent rapids]

go for it, I'm up for a laugh

[glossy sandal]

if they didn’t like how the q10 looked I can’t imagine an orbital

[gloomy patrol]

Orb isn’t ergo

[glossy sandal]

ok bruh

I mix 40s and ergo too often

[gloomy patrol]

Unibody ergo cope 🤓🤓

[silent rapids]

unibody isn't a requirement lol

[glossy sandal]

you wanna fight

[silent rapids]

jesus people sell the 4GT Saber for over 1K? Holy fuckballs

[glossy sandal]

ok bruh

you posted the extreme split

unfair

[gloomy patrol]

This one is lowk better

[glossy sandal]

I could see some people using these actually

it totally is lmao

[silent rapids]

WTF was that key layout?

[glossy sandal]

ergo shit

[gloomy patrol]

You wanted ergo

I gave you ergo

[gloomy patrol]

Lily?

[glossy sandal]

yeye

[silent rapids]

ergo is still QWERTY
not.... whatever seizure spasm created that key order

[glossy sandal]

🐛

[silent rapids]

QWFPG Key layout? lolwut?

[gloomy patrol]

That’s j the keycaps

It can be QWERTY

[silent rapids]

"Super" ?
These people are confusing lol

[gloomy patrol]

Here you go

[gloomy patrol]

Windows key normally

[silent rapids]

yeah, these are a little beyond what I'd normally go for. And I also imagine they're 400+ buck boards

[gloomy patrol]

p sure this is 3dp

so i can see it being on the cheaper side

[silent rapids]

still gotta buy the custom PCBs et all.

the first brown one was def 3DP

[gloomy patrol]

anyways

can you solder

[silent rapids]

yep

[boreal rivet]

scalpers are rampant in the hobby and community doesn't do anything to stop them

[gloomy patrol]

my vote is something like this but with a tenting kit

[glossy sandal]

No frow

[gloomy patrol]

oh

[silent rapids]

I could deal with building it, but yeah, I really would prefer and F-Row

I'm old, I use it for windows shortcuts all the time.

keyhive has some cool shizz, but none of the board have F-Rows. >.<

[chrome raft]

@tulip sun ive been advised to move here

what switch type looks best to you

[tulip sun]

I see, that's fine sorry for causing that to happen there

but uh..

hmm..

[chrome raft]

nah no worries it seems to be fine

[tulip sun]

ah

oki

hm..

I am honestly unsure

[chrome raft]

I already have what I think is a great starter keyboard option but id like switch and feature input

[tulip sun]

Well if it means anything I plan on using it for gaming

[chrome raft]

dont pay attention to the gaming typing bullshit btw

[tulip sun]

(I don't think it matters but.. I've seen people say it does

[chrome raft]

no it doesnt

[tulip sun]

Ah.. As I figured

[chrome raft]

i mean technically it does but in the loosest sense

its mostly bullshit marketing

keyboards are all your preference

[tulip sun]

In otherwords, we labeled it as Gaming So go buy it instead of our other stuff

for $80 more when its the exact same thing

[chrome raft]

some people prefer the apple keyboards, but they are wrong but its all preference

[tulip sun]

Not a fan of apple

putting it out rn, NOT an apple user.

never. ever.

[chrome raft]

my point was about the keyboard

There are no good spanish ANSI keyboards with 100% for wierdos like me

[chrome raft]

make one

[chrome raft]

i am writting santa for one right now ! its going to be awsome.

[chrome raft]

what even is spanish layout

[tulip sun]

ok i uh.. looked at a couple videos

[chrome raft]

the wird L enter

[chrome raft]

thats just iso with spanish keycaps

[tulip sun]

I'd prolly go for tactile

[chrome raft]

@tulip sun budget, needed features, wants?

[tulip sun]

Budget.. as i said around $70~ish
Prolly go near $100-$120 area tho (i'd needa save a bit more but eh)

I don't really need any features besides a working keyboard..

RGB would be cool to have ig so that's a want

[chrome raft]

sorry cannot link to the keyboard filter says i cannot writte black in spanish

[grave nest]

lol

[tulip sun]

however I don't want a white keyboard if that means anything at all... I'd want a black one

[chrome raft]

VSG is like chinese rebrand

[chrome raft]

https://smile.amazon.com/Keychron-Mechanical-Keyboard-Hot-swappable-Backlight/dp/B08CNBBHQ1?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

Here is your base

this is basically your best option

[glossy sandal]

Hi

Don’t buy either of these

[chrome raft]

he has 70$

[glossy sandal]

120$ is doable

K series is outdated

[tulip sun]

I said I can go more

Just need to save a bit

[glossy sandal]

Here’s a better board

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[chrome raft]

c series is fine BUT also can even be via flashed!

[chrome raft]

EHHHHHH

[tulip sun]

As of rn i only have around $70 but I CAN wait a bit

[glossy sandal]

ISO-ES

[chrome raft]

they need a full board and keychron shipping is literally 20$ :/

[chrome raft]

i mean thats just iso with spanish caps

[glossy sandal]

that’s why there’s a three letter acronym

ISO

[chrome raft]

yup

[glossy sandal]

Kinda easy to point out

[chrome raft]

iso you just need a spanish cap set

[glossy sandal]

You’d need to rebind keys

[chrome raft]

cuz even if you cant reprogram windows can handle it if im not being a dingus

[tulip sun]

[chrome raft]

which has proven harder to find than a unicorn.

[glossy sandal]

Keychron sells iso-es keycaps for that

also taihao

[chrome raft]

honestly id get the c2 as its an upgradable lad and you can experiment with switches on it!

[tulip sun]

hmm

[chrome raft]

they are wierd i dont like them

[glossy sandal]

who?

[chrome raft]

the ones from keychrone

[glossy sandal]

Unfortunate

[chrome raft]

if you want you can even open it up and flash a more customizable firmware

[glossy sandal]

Still worth checking out taihao though

[chrome raft]

super simple or super able to get into the weeds

@tulip sun get the c2 with hotswap browns and white backlighting and maybe get some replacement black keycaps if you want that look

[tulip sun]

hm

I'll look more into that, Thanks

[glossy sandal]

Why brown switches?

[chrome raft]

its what they decided they wanted

for the budget its a hotswap good starting chasis

and these are g pro browns

which actually aren't bad

g pro browns are actually good

[glossy sandal]

I’m aware

[chrome raft]

they deduced they wanted tactiles so 🤷

@glossy sandal whats ur boards?

[glossy sandal]

there’s a scarlet tkl on my desk as of now

[chrome raft]

lovley

[glossy sandal]

black wkl built on aluminum plate mx greys

[chrome raft]

wkl :/

[glossy sandal]

cope or something idk

[chrome raft]

wkl 40s are funny to me

[glossy sandal]

it’s being shipped out soon

I’ve just been lazy

[chrome raft]

what is

[glossy sandal]

the scarlet tkl

It’s a friend’s build

[chrome raft]

ah

whats ur main

[glossy sandal]

I’m just using it because I’ve never tried it

[glossy sandal]

what do you use?

[chrome raft]

bbe+ cobblers+ xda
and
new model f fully loaded

[glossy sandal]

big dill extended

40s

[chrome raft]

huh

its the best board ever

I love it so much

not biased at all tho

[glossy sandal]

do you plan to buy a pochi?

[chrome raft]

I have too many boards no

Ive already designed my perfect board so

this is old and dated and incomplete but yea general idea

@glossy sandal my setup looks something like this

i was sick at the time dont draw conculsions

[crimson holly]

that is a lot of switches lol

wonderful collection though

love the color arrangement of the tubs of switches, particularly the majorly monochrome top row

what are these though? 👀

[chrome raft]

Left is new creams
Right is Oreos

[crimson holly]

oooh

interesting, everglide oreos?

ive been very interested in those, meaning to get them for myself for a while, do you got any particular thoughts or word on them?

[chrome raft]

incredibly meh

[crimson holly]

huh

i c

[chrome raft]

Current photos from a much worse camera that I have to deal with for the next couple hours

[crimson holly]

im also eyeing KNC long pole stems, which are a cheaper alternative to trying something new than full on new switches

so, would you recommend i go with that instead

[chrome raft]

knc?

[crimson holly]

oh its a store

[chrome raft]

ive admittedly been out for a lil

[crimson holly]

huh they're actually named average joe stems lol

[chrome raft]

lol

the oreos are like tkc dfruits and kiwis (t1 style) and id get basically anything else

they literally look cute

[crimson holly]

so yeah i either get everglide oreos, or long pole stems, with the oreos i run the risk of not liking tactiles, and with the stems its a less risky scenario so i might just go with that

i see

[chrome raft]

also I love having bobas in boba cups

lul

[crimson holly]

meta

lmao

[chrome raft]

my pride is the bottom left board in the last image

[crimson holly]

also looked at oreos because of course, absolute dead monochrome setup on my board so it'd be fitting that i got something as such

besides something like....gat ink blacks but that's too expensive for me lol

[crimson holly]

quite pretty indeed, love it

[chrome raft]

its a brand new model f reproduction LOADED to the gills with enough extras to ensure it outlasts me and my son

[crimson holly]

niiiiiice

[chrome raft]

im happy to answer any other questions

[crimson holly]

linears or tactiles?

lmao

[chrome raft]

clickies

[crimson holly]

evil

haha

also rate da build? 👀

gah damn i need a better camera lol

[chrome raft]

looks CLEAN

[signal tinsel]

What happened to the keys

[crimson holly]

hm? they're regular PBT keycaps

if you mean the ones to the right with funky designs, those are artisan keycaps, common adornment for boards

[signal tinsel]

From far away they look like they are magnets dumped into a jar of iron fillings and placed onto the keyboard

[crimson holly]

hah

that'd be a cool concept to design as one

[signal tinsel]

Don't forget to fuse the iron fillings together or it will be a mess

[chrome raft]

@crimson holly go peep my set-up and ask me any questions

[untold orchid]

Imagine ferrofluid artisan keycap

[wraith crater]

getting these as a combo, will it look good?

[shell ingot]

anyone know any keycaps like this but white

[glossy sandal]

These aren’t compatible

[glossy sandal]

What you’re looking for doesn’t exist

[wraith crater]

thought its both just cherry mx profile

[glossy sandal]

Not like that

The keychron v1 has a short shift and 3u keys to the right of the spacebar

These aren’t included in the pudding keycaps

[viscid tapir]

i found similar ones on aliexpress and candykeys

i am also looking for all black with japanese font and i am not able to find them for my keychron

[shell ingot]

Wym

[glossy sandal]

What you’re looking for is black katakana legends on a white keycap

It does not exist

[gloomy patrol]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-biip-mt3-extended-custom-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=969828

Can I have a cookie now

[glossy sandal]

[shell ingot]

Why not

[glossy sandal]

this technically is it

[shell ingot]

Yoo

[glossy sandal]

but it’s not in the same profile nor the same color nor corner legend

[shell ingot]

Astrothocker crazy

I legit just want white keycaps with katakana/hirigina letters without the English letters

[amber tartan]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113857.0

dead IC

LOL!

[glossy sandal]

still waiting on bow cyrillic

[charred garden]

Spray paint

[shell ingot]

No vendors

[amber tartan]

so it doesnt exist then

[viscid tapir]

drop has awesome the lord of the rings keycaps

aliexpress has some hiragana keycaps

[amber tartan]

noxary xrf extras soon if you want overpriced tkl

[glossy sandal]

Charue extras when

[cunning anvil]

so excited

[glossy sandal]

you got them made?