peripherals

[glossy sandal]

the thing with the holes, that’s the stem
thing that holds the stem is the housing, wire is uh wire.

put the stem into the housing, side with the two holes facing the side the wire clips in, guide the wire into the second hole down and then clip in

[dire leaf]

do u got maybe a tutorial cuz i need a pov kinda

[glossy sandal]

https://youtu.be/6Yz-UzTY8_I

[peak warren]

Is this https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/KEYRAZ84607/Razer-Huntsman-Mini-60-Gaming-Keyboard---Mercury-W?qr=GShopping&gclid=CjwKCAiA2L-dBhACEiwAu8Q9YIFxQToXb-pMqO43BvJpua-OY8j7Jd2EIyFLYKFzf-xndDw3Pg-N5BoCT6IQAvD_BwE keyboard good?

[glossy sandal]

No

[peak warren]

Any reason?

[glossy sandal]

overpriced gamer gear

[peak warren]

What’s a keyboard u would recommend then?

[glossy sandal]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v4-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[dire leaf]

thx but now my spacebar sounds horrendous

holy shit my space bar sounds worse

[glossy sandal]

Maybe you modded it wrong

what’d you do to it?

[dire leaf]

i only clipped it and removed the lube on it and i holee mmodded it but i still took it off cuz it wasnt a good bandaid

[glossy sandal]

holee mad is shit

lube was the thing making it sound decent

go lube it dude

[dire leaf]

alright, but couldve clipping caused this?

[glossy sandal]

Not really

[dire leaf]

ah

[glossy sandal]

The point of clipping is that you’re creating an even surface because the part you’re clipping rests on the pcb

So unless you didn’t clip right, should be fine.

[peak warren]

What’s the best sounding switch?

[glossy sandal]

mx blacks

there is none.

[dire leaf]

i removed the lube that the people put on it, so maybe that might be why?

[glossy sandal]

Yes

Stabs can rattle without lube

[dire leaf]

ah

i took off the stabs and put on the switch, and it sounds really good

[glossy sandal]

now tap it on either end of the spacebar

It’ll teeter and totter

[dire leaf]

yea ik

the left shift dont work

the problems keep stacking

[glossy sandal]

Is the pin bent on left shift?

[dire leaf]

Nah, i tried diffferent switches

[glossy sandal]

By not working

Do you mean it’s not registering or the key isn’t going back up?

[dire leaf]

it isnt registering

i think i bricked my whole keyboard possibly

the space bar doesnt register at times and neither does the left shift

[glossy sandal]

you think you might’ve broken a trace?

[dire leaf]

whats that

[pastel drift]

@twilit flare top 10 gaming

[glossy sandal]

the pcb, I’m thinking maybe you damaged it

[dire leaf]

the left shift works but now the space bar is wrecked

[glossy sandal]

what did you do other than take the stabs out?

[pastel drift]

Dam

[dire leaf]

maube

[dire leaf]

nothing

[glossy sandal]

oh, it registers now ?

[dire leaf]

yea

[glossy sandal]

nice

[dire leaf]

the space bar doesnt tho

[glossy sandal]

Re do the stabs

[dire leaf]

alright\

[glossy sandal]

I’m thinking it’s an issue with assembly

[dire leaf]

yea maybe

[twilit flare]

NOOOOO

@pastel drift

[pastel drift]

Imagine pinging me

[twilit flare]

You pinged me kid

[pastel drift]

What’s that

[twilit flare]

Damn they posted a image of the break-in too

[pastel drift]

I don’t get it

[twilit flare]

They got their stuff stolen bruh

[pastel drift]

Rip

[cunning anvil]

soldering smd is pain holy ow

tho tbh had more trouble with the hotswap sockets, melted one :c

[gloomy patrol]

oh damn

sounds painful

[cunning anvil]

they sent smd diodes instead of through hole ;~;

and its my first time soldering in years

didnt have time to wait so i just said screw it and started with smd

[dire leaf]

i watchred a video and i did it properly

[glossy sandal]

cool

[sleek hound]

Is the membrane version of the roccat sova worth it? I saw one used going for about 40 bucks used(in good shape) but not sure since its not mechanical.

[pastel drift]

@twilit flare

[twilit flare]

Why u keep pinging me bro

WHAT @pastel drift

WHAT DO YOU WANT @pastel drift

[pastel drift]

Sup

[twilit flare]

New years in 4 hours

[pastel drift]

Same

[twilit flare]

I moved my PC to a new room and it's loud as fk

If my mom brings my mic idek if I'll be able to talk without waking up the whole house

[pastel drift]

Dang

I want to move it closer to the WiFi but I tho l my bed is in the way

I’ll have to see when I get home

[twilit flare]

Sleep on the floor bed is getting in the way of gaming bruh

[pastel drift]

So true

[twilit flare]

What about just buying a wifi card wouldn't that increase connection

Or buy private router for pro

[main narwhal]

Are you pre tinning

Makes doing those sockets a lot easier

[pastel drift]

Idk what that is lol

[twilit flare]

Ur so L

Does ur computer have Bluetooth

[pastel drift]

Idk

[glossy sandal]

lol

[pastel drift]

Plspls

[twilit flare]

Phil buys 1k+ PC

Doesnt know if Bluetooth or not

https://keyboards.pizza/pages/pizza65-65-top-mount-keyboard-case-made-in-italy @glossy sandal

[glossy sandal]

HAHAHA WTF

[pastel drift]

So true

I think it has WiFi

[amber tartan]

not even the weirdest thing out of the community

[pastel drift]

What’s the weirdest

[gloomy patrol]

This is normal

[glossy sandal]

[glossy sandal]

<@&750150305383186585>

[pastel drift]

Ez

[amber tartan]

bakeneko?

[sonic cape]

psd60

[amber tartan]

#justanothergh60

[sonic cape]

is that a bad thing ?

are these more of ´´notagh60´´ ?

[amber tartan]

its better but low profile yuck

[upbeat portal]

Hey guys is there a way to disable the function of a key on my keyboard but keep it detected by programs,
im trying to use keys such as: insert, pause, scroll lock etc as hotkeys because i dont use them, ive played around with windows powertoys to disable their function but now the key input is not detected
i want it to be detected but not perform their default functions.
any ideas?

[amber tartan]

get a macropad

[upbeat portal]

well id prefer not to since i have perfectly good keys im not using right here XD + im a student so moneys tight

[cunning anvil]

kmonad lol

remap them to some other unused key or something

[upbeat portal]

issue is i need a key that doesnt perform any action or inputs a typed value. but there doesnt seem to be any such value

[cunning anvil]

f13

[chrome raft]

f13-f24

yeah

[cunning anvil]

or if you can try modifier macros

[upbeat portal]

:0

thanks guys

additionally, is there a way to control the scroll lock light? remapping it has disabled its control over the light

[weak pewter]

i made that in 5 seconds in tinkercad

[dire leaf]

if i dont got grease for my stab wire, can i just use normal switch lube?

[amber tartan]

yes

its not the best but it works

[cunning anvil]

is done

[glossy sandal]

are you working the register or something

[fading iris]

Bros doin accounting with that thing

[glossy sandal]

lel

[twilit flare]

How do you make a PCB in tinkercad

[weak pewter]

i mean the render

[twilit flare]

Cool man congratulations!

[boreal rivet]

using tinkercad

[pastel drift]

e

[cunning anvil]

literally a num pad for my accounting bro

ordered some beige caps

thinking might switch the akko red for milky yellow

[amber tartan]

fusion 360 only

[boreal rivet]

inventor>>>

well, solidworks is better than those three anyway

[twilit flare]

what tf are u talking about

[amber tartan]

keyboard/pcb making softwares

[boreal rivet]

3D CAD software

pcb design is done in Kicad, Altium bla bla bla

[sonic cape]

low profile where ?

[fading iris]

Bein stylish as he does his accounting

[jagged raven]

my h doesent register like 99% of the time theres noting wrong with it and i've cleaned it and chhecked for anything under key. it rather puts it or does it more then once in a single press

[amber tartan]

probably a pcb problem

with ghosting

[covert blaze]

I have a Razer black widow v2, I’m having issues with my hair which has gotten trapped underneath the keys and I can’t get it out using tweezers or by hoover, I’m pretty sure I can remove the protective guard which is attached over the keyboard but I’m not sure how

Or should I try cleaning with compressed air

[viscid tapir]

got a new q series keyboard and was just soldering the pcb

but i ahve taken a break and dropped my rubik cube on it

no idea how rubik cube broke the pcb well that was money well spent

second day of new year and broken headphones and keyboard lol

[untold orchid]

as in keychron Q series?

why the hell would you solder it

[viscid tapir]

i mean i just got pcb and i was doing custom case

and i dropped it in the middle

[untold orchid]

so you got a Q series pcb? which is hot swap

[viscid tapir]

yes i was gonna put it in a new case and i have not finished soldering and adding foam so i have taken a break

i knew i was gonna drop something on it sooner or later tho lol

[untold orchid]

i am still asking the question, why the hell are you soldering a hot swap pcb

[glossy sandal]

What is there to solder on a hs pcb

[latent blaze]

it even has leds already right

like there is straight up not a single thing to solder

[native pilot]

i love both of those

pink and white keycaps anyone got any recommendations please @ me

[sonic cape]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004398706266.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.74ea3a65HSSAn8&algo_pvid=b0c9d8d9-757b-4ad8-93db-aeec1dc2c239&algo_exp_id=b0c9d8d9-757b-4ad8-93db-aeec1dc2c239-45&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000029037512135"}&pdp_npi=2%40dis!CZK!1589.85!794.92!!!!!%40211b88f016726890183687472e992e!12000029037512135!sea&curPageLogUid=hiC4FxCBpvxg

[native pilot]

literally perfect thank you !!!

now i just need to buy a white keyboard

:)))

[sonic cape]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004955236075.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.108458a2znwgr6&algo_pvid=ccb0c08d-172f-407e-9d7c-f84666aac655&algo_exp_id=ccb0c08d-172f-407e-9d7c-f84666aac655-12&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000031144627563"}&pdp_npi=2%40dis!CZK!2006.83!2006.83!!!!!%40211b88ec16726891494104507e9861!12000031144627563!sea&curPageLogUid=MaAY16EUXbCM

[native pilot]

why are you so good at this

[sonic cape]

i have a crippling addictiont to browsing aliexpress xd

[native pilot]

haha this is gonna be my first time making a keyboard no idea what im doing haha

[sonic cape]

you looking for something budget

?

[native pilot]

tbh im not to worried about the price im more worried about how i put the thing together lmao

[sonic cape]

if you buy a diy kit

pre lubed switches

and keycaps

its easier then lego

[native pilot]

i was gonna say i watched a video and then this dude started soldering stuff and i was like wot

[native pilot]

how many keyboards do you own!!

[sonic cape]

nah those are just non hotswap pcbs

ehh i have built myself around 6

[native pilot]

ohhhhhh

[sonic cape]

and I have one bought

[native pilot]

whats your favourite one

weird question

[sonic cape]

oh my New Blood tofu

[native pilot]

how much did you spend on that lmao

[sonic cape]

its a basic tofu60

but the switches and keycaps were a bit costly

[native pilot]

oh dam that is one amazing looking keyboard

[sonic cape]

Yeah

[native pilot]

what switches did you go for

[sonic cape]

its my favourite one

gateron oil kings

pre lubbed

[native pilot]

ok this probably sounds stupid

but

where do you buy switches

[sonic cape]

yes

[native pilot]

lmao

[sonic cape]

where you from ?

[native pilot]

uk

[sonic cape]

are you ok waiting for shipping from aliexpress ?

or do you want a local store

[native pilot]

idm waiting at all

[sonic cape]

well then

look up

kbdfans on aliexpress

and kprepublic

on aliexpress

overall aliexpress is your best friend

[native pilot]

ok ok so these might not be the ones i go with but for example so far i have this

what else would i need

[sonic cape]

well

youre all set

😄

keycaps switches and a diy keyboard

what you might want now to tune your keyboard is a lube set

and some tape

[native pilot]

oh ok >:)

[sonic cape]

if you want something more

a custom coiled cable

and perhaps a custom esc key

I just ordered this one

[native pilot]

thats mad is that actually metal

[sonic cape]

yep cnc aluminium

[native pilot]

i already ordered a white coiled cable haha

[sonic cape]

or stamped

thats nice

[native pilot]

thats sick though

[sonic cape]

yeah its just bcs my spending for keebs is

a joke

[native pilot]

i just finished building my new pc i gotta stop buying stuff istg

[sonic cape]

What components you used ?

I just finished upgrading mine

[native pilot]

i got a asus 3070 ti
32gb ddr5 corsair vengeance
rog X670E for motherboard
and a ryzen 7 7000k

i have the list somewhere

[sonic cape]

nice i just finished doing a

ryzen 7 5800x3d

rtx 4080

64gb ddr4

[native pilot]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZD3ppH

[sonic cape]

and a b450 steel legend

[native pilot]

thats the exact parts

oh damm

i mean my old build was old

it had a 1660 ti in it

and the case was really small

[sonic cape]

my old was a rtx2080super

[native pilot]

it always over heated

[sonic cape]

and a ryzen 7 2700

took them and built them into a corsair 4000x

[native pilot]

i just spend alot of money on this and dont really even game that much lol

[sonic cape]

same

ever since i got it i havent even played anything

if you need any help with your keyboard

let me know

[native pilot]

This is what I got atm

Ignore the cables

Lol

[sonic cape]

ignore the mess

[native pilot]

the pc looks amazing

[sonic cape]

i love having all my knifes and

cat treats handy

[native pilot]

not even using your keyboard lmao

[sonic cape]

oh yeah im not

im using my fnatic gaming one

[native pilot]

ofc ofc imma order my ltt screwdriver aswell rn

i love having a job

lol

[sonic cape]

oh yeah same

i have two

and the backpack too

[native pilot]

yk i looked at the screwdriver when it first came out and i was like wait does it come with the bits. cause they also sell bits on the website. so i didnt buy it but now i want it >:)

[sonic cape]

yeah there are some standard bits

with it

[native pilot]

you got the water bottle to

[sonic cape]

yep

i was in canada

from september to december

for studies

so used the lower tax and cheap shipping

bcs im in central europe

so it would be overly expensive to ship it to my home here

[native pilot]

see thats smart

i would never have even thought to do that

[sonic cape]

yeah 😄

it was great recieving it quickly

and also it being cheaper

and the backpack proved its price

i brought sooo much stuff in it

it was like bouldging

it was filled up like 140%

[native pilot]

istg its like $200 for the backpack

[sonic cape]

for EU people its a bit expensive

but its one hell of a backpack

[native pilot]

how much money do you have jesus lol

[sonic cape]

a lot

😄

[native pilot]

clearly lmao

[sonic cape]

but i also have a particular skill

that not a lot of people in my age gap and country have

so companies in certain sectors will pay me a lot to help them

[native pilot]

whats that

[sonic cape]

fluent french and english

in my country

[native pilot]

oh dangggg

[sonic cape]

and be also 22yrs old

so a few companies paid me to help them boost their french market

sales

make a good first impression for their french clients

etc

[native pilot]

i mean once i finish my training and courses i will have more money to spend on my computer

:)

[sonic cape]

you doing graphic design ?

[native pilot]

but i have no idea how you can speak multiple languages i struggle with one

[sonic cape]

its fun but i just do

[native pilot]

i already do graphic design but im training to be a network engineer

[sonic cape]

thats nice

only network thing i can do is

crimp ethernet cables

and change your wifi name

[native pilot]

lmao that actually killed me

[sonic cape]

😄

[native pilot]

i mean tbh its all just servers, routers, switches and then just setting up NAS for people

[sonic cape]

yeah i imagine

[native pilot]

so its one of those things that once you know how to do it its easy

[sonic cape]

i did manage to set up a network switch

and set up my router

[native pilot]

and its all in offices and they dont know how to do any of it so no one is judging me lol

[sonic cape]

but im too scared with all those ip adresses

static ip and mac and whatever

once i preset reset and my house was without internet

[native pilot]

idk what i did but on my like second day i reset a entire server at an office because i enetered the wrong thing

oopsi

[sonic cape]

understandable

[civic tulip]

Okay, so I'm looking for some metal base 65% keyboard arrow keys is important that uses red linear switches. Does anyone have any nice recommendations for me?

[glossy sandal]

Keychron Q2

[untold orchid]

ditch the "red linear switch" and buy some actually decent linear switches

[glossy sandal]

G pro reds are fine

[untold orchid]

oh god no

[glossy sandal]

they’re yellows but lighter

literally no issue with them

[untold orchid]

still a super budget switch, lubed its aight but stock its kinda ass

[glossy sandal]

[untold orchid]

if he doesnt want to lube at all then something like the splash bros switch or oil king is great

[glossy sandal]

Oil King lube job is kinda inconsistent

And splash bros are half silents right?

Bit of an acquired taste

[glossy sandal]

Also g pro reds use the same factory lube application as oil kings

And polished stems

[untold orchid]

eh not rly, its just an all around good linear

[glossy sandal]

I’m saying it’s the switch itself, not my opinion on it

It’s a half silent iirc

Silent bottom out and audible return

[untold orchid]

I think youre mistaken, theyre not half silents theyre speed switches

ofc a switch can be both but these are just marketed as a prelubed linear speed switch

[glossy sandal]

Ah

Got mistaken with another switch

[civic tulip]

I am interested in purchasing a keyboard that has a better linear switch. Do you have any recommendations that meet my criteria and fit within my budget of 250 USD?

[glossy sandal]

Most prebuilts don’t do anything more than red/blue/brown

But the g pro reds on the Q2 are solid, you don’t need to do anything to them.

Also if you don’t plan to do anything to your board, ever.

Leopold is my top recommendation

[untold orchid]

get the bareboned Q2, add switches and keycaps

its super easy to install switches, literally just press them in and ur done

[open crow]

[glossy sandal]

So lit

[unkempt dome]

the durgod fusion I was talking about with non interfering north facing cherry brown with cherry keycaps

[twilit flare]

I'm about to sell this keyboard and everything else fr I haven't found motivation to lube

Why didn't I just get cool gaming keyboard why'd I put myself in debt bro 😭

[twilit flare]

Oooh what monitors?

[pastel drift]

L

[twilit flare]

Look at Hershey's setup doe

And the guy below

[twilit flare]

Messy ah desk tho not gonna hold u bro

[boreal rivet]

you got into debt over a keyboard? 💯

[glossy sandal]

Ain’t no way you’re filing for bankruptcy over a k4

[twilit flare]

K6

[tawdry forge]

Anyone like membrane keyboards?

[twilit flare]

Bold of you to think I have a business to begin with to go bankrupt 🥹

[twilit flare]

Yea

[tawdry forge]

I use the corsair k55

[twilit flare]

Clean

Came with wrist rest?

[tawdry forge]

I want the mechanical keyboards but there alot more expensive for the size I need

[tawdry forge]

Yes

I got it in 2019 so it's a bit different than the current one

[twilit flare]

Yeah especially small ones

O

[tawdry forge]

I need a full size with numpad

[twilit flare]

Since I have limited desk space tkL is ideal for me

[boreal rivet]

Damn, kid moment

[pastel drift]

imagine

[boreal rivet]

Y’all need to stop introducing kids to keyboards

[pastel drift]

nah

[boreal rivet]

It 100% leads to bad decisions

[pastel drift]

nah

[twilit flare]

Mxid raging rn damn

"Stop bringing more people into this hobby!!!" 😡

[pastel drift]

road rage

[twilit flare]

Lol

[pastel drift]

basketball toxic moments

[boreal rivet]

I just feel sorry for you, having almost gone through the same thing when I first entered the hobby 🤷

[twilit flare]

Get dunked on

[pastel drift]

skill issue ngl

[twilit flare]

Why do you feel sorry

It's not that bad

It's not like I broke my keyboard... Yet

[pastel drift]

i think im getting sick D:

[boreal rivet]

You were lead on with the promise of something great and took on a debt when the end result isn’t anything special whatsoever

[twilit flare]

North Carolina did it

[boreal rivet]

Sad, really.

[pastel drift]

fr

oh jev

did you see that ugc dominus?

that was funny

[glossy sandal]

[pastel drift]

ello gas

[glossy sandal]

Hi

[pastel drift]

i got a microphone stand

ezz

[glossy sandal]

So lit

[twilit flare]

What are you drinking? I never had any expectations of the keyboard turning out great or even the idea of me going through with lubing switches. You're overreacting. I bought the keyboard because I wanted to try out something new I entered fully knowing I could fuck it up but that's the point so I can experience it. Don't say you feel bad when in reality you don't give a shit and I don't either lol

[glossy sandal]

[pastel drift]

no wonder you asked me if i needed help for an essay. You type fast

top 10 fast

[glossy sandal]

what are you two waffling about

[pastel drift]

about gaming

[boreal rivet]

Dude is on some copium idk

Just feel bad for him

[pastel drift]

at the end of the day i got the end game keyboard

[glossy sandal]

I mean it just sounds like he was joking about being in debt

just making a funny

[twilit flare]

It's okay gas this dude is daft

Dense

[boreal rivet]

You never know

[glossy sandal]

taking out a loan for a dalco

[boreal rivet]

Children like to make stupid jokes out of serious situations to downplay them

[pastel drift]

Endgame keyboard ngl

it's all gold

[twilit flare]

Endgame keyb

Let's goooo

[boreal rivet]

Now resorting to ad hominem kek

[twilit flare]

Built it 1:1

[pastel drift]

me when old man doesn't take a joke

[twilit flare]

It's a fuckin 60 buck keyboard bro why u putting so much thought into it lmao

[pastel drift]

top 10 gamers ngl

[twilit flare]

Go have a shot of wine grandpa

[pastel drift]

lol

he reminds me of that kid in jailbreak the other day

[twilit flare]

Forbes top 10 gamers of the year

https://tenor.com/view/wakeforest-wakebasketball-acc-deactown-north-gif-24611088

[pastel drift]

i called him an idiot and he said it was against tos and said he was gonna report me

[twilit flare]

Lol

[boreal rivet]

Some advice and pity isn’t really what I’d call overreacting 🤷

If anything, you are with how weirdly defensive you’re acting

[pastel drift]

nah that's overreacting ngl

[twilit flare]

You're giving advice because you're under the impression I was being serious about something. That's overreacting

[pastel drift]

W

so smart

top 10 smart

[twilit flare]

It's not me being defensive I'm just calling you out for your stupidity lol you're gullible and don't understand simple sarcasm

[boreal rivet]

😑

[twilit flare]

I saw a possum outside I thought it was u phil

I was like how'd u find me

[pastel drift]

so mean

[twilit flare]

Any updates on u getting the fast keyboard

What's it called again

[cunning anvil]

is wiring an elite c onto a dead pcb with smd components hard

[pastel drift]

wooting

[twilit flare]

Wooting

Yeah

[pastel drift]

it's coming in febuary

[twilit flare]

U GOT IT

LETS GOO

[pastel drift]

ye

[twilit flare]

W'S

[glossy sandal]

[twilit flare]

Sorry gas

[glossy sandal]

is ok

[twilit flare]

Sound is temporary gaming is forever

[glossy sandal]

I need some sound

[twilit flare]

True

[glossy sandal]

edition xs soon!!’

[twilit flare]

Is that a group buy again

[pastel drift]

i should've used the bugha keyboard but im too lazy to set it up

[twilit flare]

Set what up lol

[glossy sandal]

I can’t decide whether fiio or schiit

[pastel drift]

the keyboard in the picture

[twilit flare]

I thought all u do is plug it in and press crappy RGB key

[boreal rivet]

Depends on what you think is hard ig, probably not a good idea if you’re new to soldering

[glossy sandal]

headphon

[pastel drift]

yea and im too lazy to do that

[twilit flare]

@pastel drift

[pastel drift]

im right here bro

[twilit flare]

I'll do it

Nah

You didn't see

[pastel drift]

ok ill send it to you

[boreal rivet]

Gas did you buy xs based off of the rec of some dude in audio tech

[twilit flare]

Easy

[glossy sandal]

No

I am buying it based on months of stalking audio channes

also speaking to a couple audiophiles

[cunning anvil]

well i just soldered for the first time in years, did 20 smd diodes onto the soldering pads by myself and im feeling cocky, ig the hardest part would be reverse engineering the matrix lol

[glossy sandal]

Closed backs are hard to find

[boreal rivet]

In where? sonic getaway?

Most of the “audiophiles” I know who recommend xs are deaf racists or special exceptions

[bold patio]

Interesting, not me going "all in" with 100€ for a "full" size keyb with mx browns lmao

[glossy sandal]

nah just a couple audio channels in some servers I’m in

[glossy sandal]

wtf!!!

I thought it was good bang for buck

[bold patio]

As my first mechhy that is

[boreal rivet]

Get schiit btw

[twilit flare]

Lol

[glossy sandal]

xamn..

[boreal rivet]

Only good fiio products are the high end ones

[bold patio]

Cherry MX-Board 3.0S

[glossy sandal]

Ye probably gonna buy a magnius and modius soonish?

If all goes well that is

[pastel drift]

Rgb kinda hit ngl @twilit flare

[boreal rivet]

Mahmoud and modish aren’t worth it imo

[twilit flare]

NICEEE

[boreal rivet]

Fucking autocorrect

[bold patio]

I actually dont mind the browns.. they have something to em.. but the best part was just.. the rgb software was unavailable for fucking 1.5 years

[glossy sandal]

Mahmoud 🤙

[pastel drift]

this thing feeks disgusting thi

[twilit flare]

Better than my cynosa rgb

[pastel drift]

and it's not raised so that's bad

[twilit flare]

Giving razer a run for their money

[boreal rivet]

Anyway modi+ and magni+ are the best as a beginner

[glossy sandal]

Browns are lit

[twilit flare]

The typing posture 😭

[boreal rivet]

Magnius is quite bad

And modius isn’t worth the price increase over modi

[glossy sandal]

I see

[boreal rivet]

You’d have to get stuff in the 1k regions for a substantial upgrade over modi magni

[glossy sandal]

What would be a fair option in the price range for modius and magnius

you’re crushing my expectations man!!

[pastel drift]

i want to break this keyboard ngl

i have to push down so hard

[glossy sandal]

What would you recommend then for around the same ballpark as edition xs

[boreal rivet]

Modi magni

[glossy sandal]

Bugha keyboar

[glossy sandal]

Headphone

[cunning anvil]

my first mech was an on sale blue switch logitech 100%, first custom was a corne lol, jumped straight into 40% and i found it fun

[glossy sandal]

you said it wasn’t any good

[bold patio]

In a way, yeah. They sure aint the most smooth, also definitely and very tactile in a sense of one bump and thats it.. id almost describe it as some sort of "bump echo" that you don't feel that much if you don't pay attention.. it kinda gives a feel how how deep you pressed the key ngl.. atleast to me.

[pastel drift]

@twilit flare

[boreal rivet]

Modius and magnius arent

[pastel drift]

im about to play phantom forces with this keboard

[boreal rivet]

Modi magni are step below

[glossy sandal]

I’m talking about edition xs

[boreal rivet]

Oh you mean headphones

[glossy sandal]

[twilit flare]

Ur gonna top frag

[boreal rivet]

I believe in infinite scaling so hd6x0 lol

[glossy sandal]

Damn!!

[cunning anvil]

i hate clicky switches and feel my linears are still too loud, do i need foam?

[boreal rivet]

If you don’t want to subscribe to that then elex ig?

[twilit flare]

I wonder if me connecting my phone to my computer acts as Bluetooth so I can connect my keyboard

[glossy sandal]

I wanted a bit of a step up from hd6x0

[boreal rivet]

I don’t know how much xs costs

[bold patio]

Obviously best headphones are the crushers, 100% legit

[glossy sandal]

xs is 450$

[boreal rivet]

Everything under Arya from hfm is straight trash to me

Yeah elex maybe

Used borealis

Used hd800

[glossy sandal]

I thought hd880s were trash

Or are hd800s a entirely different thing

[boreal rivet]

You mean dt880s?

[glossy sandal]

no hd

[boreal rivet]

Hd800 is good wym?

Who the hell are you talking to lmao

[glossy sandal]

I’m just going off a bunch of reading

is it good?

[pastel drift]

i hate this keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Yes one of the most resolving headphones

[glossy sandal]

I have a buddy who would sell me arya stealth 🐛

[boreal rivet]

Though the treble emphasis is a sore spot for many

[glossy sandal]

where is he

[cunning anvil]

is "thocky" like quiet or is it still loud? i keep hearing the word

[glossy sandal]

thocky is meaningless

[boreal rivet]

I would avoid hifiman until your figure out your preferences

[glossy sandal]

gotta go to a audio store!!

[boreal rivet]

Their tuning is really meh for me

Also if you can, always get speakers before headphones

Speakers are almost always better

[cunning anvil]

if i want a quieter build, what would be the cheapest place to start?

[bold patio]

I personally wouldn't buy any headphones based of other peoples "good or bad", rule of thumb @glossy sandal, id listen to some headphones in sone sort if shop if possible, and then compare simmilar ones amd see what fits.. or find something perfectly flat, and eq to your likings.. but that both only goes so far and well.. take what i say with a cup full of salt

[glossy sandal]

yeah I’ve said I don’t like speakers for obvious reasons

[boreal rivet]

I hear that a well setup pair of 305p (200/pair) can be as resolving as hd800

Your loss then lol

[glossy sandal]

yeah ik :(((

[boreal rivet]

Headfi is a endless search for something speakers can achieve relatively easily

[glossy sandal]

using hd600s plugged into a um2 rn

I don’t think they’re being properly powered

these hd600s aren’t mine but they sound nice

[boreal rivet]

Um2 is behringer right?

[glossy sandal]

think so

Bought this thing ages ago

[boreal rivet]

Ew yeah no

[glossy sandal]

someone recommended it and I was broke and noobie

[boreal rivet]

Motu m2 has a decent hpout

[glossy sandal]

It gets the job done

[boreal rivet]

It’s what crinacle uses for testing iirc

Along with ifi black label or something

[glossy sandal]

I was considering zen dac/zen can but I decided I’d be buying audio for probably the last time in a while

so decided to up the budget to maybe like 300-400 chain 500~ headphones

[boreal rivet]

Zen dac is terrible as a standalone

[glossy sandal]

yeye I’ll be sure to try to seek out audio stores

[boreal rivet]

It gets better with the zen can but still not worth it over modi magni

[glossy sandal]

Isn’t zen can a amp and dac combo?

[boreal rivet]

Ask in the headphones.com server

[bold patio]

I personally went with buds 1 pro for my phone based on recommendations, and while yes, they are probably the most amazing/neutral/true to the music sounding headphones i ever had, they are lacking in other regards of preferences.. and for the price.. im unsure if id do the same purchase again.

[glossy sandal]

huge servers are scary but I’ll try soonish

still just window shopping and gathering info

[boreal rivet]

The people you’re reading about zen dac and shit from are 100% those deaf racists I was talking about

[glossy sandal]

mfw

[boreal rivet]

All they talk about is xs and zen dac

[glossy sandal]

is xs gmmk pro of audio

[boreal rivet]

No

[wispy bronze]

Hey what's a good full keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Just a headphone some incels are obsessed with

Along with 400se

[glossy sandal]

I used he400se for a while before switching to iems

[glossy sandal]

Keychron v6/q6

[boreal rivet]

It’s probably pretty good value if you get them for like 70 bucks

[glossy sandal]

got mine for 90

[boreal rivet]

But really nothing like what those people describe them as

[glossy sandal]

I liked it!!

damn this dive into audio is gonna be deeper than I thought

[boreal rivet]

Do you like them more than hd600?

[glossy sandal]

I mean the hd600s aren’t being power properly I don’t think

I do like the hd600s more when they were plugged into a proper chain though

[unkempt dome]

at some point you just have to stop and enjoy what you have

[boreal rivet]

If you do you might like hfm tuning or just haven’t developed your preferences yet

Indeed

[unkempt dome]

hd600 scale with amp I've heard

[boreal rivet]

I’m building my endgame amp and dipping lol

[unkempt dome]

I would love to build an amp

would probably be overbuilt and cost way too much tho

[glossy sandal]

I would love to build a board rn 🐛

[boreal rivet]

DIY amps are actually super good value

[unkempt dome]

for now I'm happy with my acr pro68

[glossy sandal]

gonna take apart my d84 and mess with configurations prob

oh actually I get to build a acr 75 pro soon

that’ll be fun I think maybe

[unkempt dome]

nice

mine came with some screws loose so be careful when you open the box to not lose some

[glossy sandal]

damn that’s weird

[boreal rivet]

Consider diy sangaku when you want an upgrade for magni

Circuit used to be in a 2k amp iirc?

Can be built for like 500 I think

[glossy sandal]

I have a mackie mixer in my attic somewhere

Wonder if I can get any use out of it

[glossy sandal]

Should I just build that instead first or is it not recommended

[unkempt dome]

box arrived with a dent on the side ... so it was probably brutalized a lot during transport ... i suppose that's why some screw came loose

[glossy sandal]

Akko boards have been weird builds for me

[bold patio]

Ah yes, fedex

[boreal rivet]

I would

Since everyone has to start somewhere

[glossy sandal]

[boreal rivet]

But it’s not exactly a beginner project

[glossy sandal]

This’ll be something to keep me busy for a while

[unkempt dome]

not really ... canada post

[boreal rivet]

You could get a feel for it by building a cmoy first

[glossy sandal]

I’m easily appeased by audio so if I like it I’ll probably never upgrade unless stuff gets really good and really cheap in like a decade or something

[boreal rivet]

The designer Pete millet responds to emails so if you have any questions just ask him

[bold patio]

Huh..but fair enough, you could do that for <insert postal service>

[glossy sandal]

that thing looks so funny

looks like a sampson mic

I like it

[boreal rivet]

Yeah it’s mean to be a super simple little amp

[unkempt dome]

how does it work ? ... you get a list of parts that you source yourself and buy the casing for it ?

[glossy sandal]

Probably better than my um2 lmao

[boreal rivet]

You buy a kit from pete on ebay with the pcb and harder to source components

Then buy the rest on mouser/digikey etc

Assemble using bom

[glossy sandal]

bom?

[boreal rivet]

Bill of materials

[glossy sandal]

oh

[boreal rivet]

If you have questions just dm me

[glossy sandal]

kk

[unkempt dome]

I'll keep that in mind ... thanx
and it sounds better than the magni 3+ ?

[boreal rivet]

Yes

[unkempt dome]

hmmm

tempting

I could just sell my stack

[glossy sandal]

little mint tin thing

[boreal rivet]

Cmoy and altoids tin is iconic

[glossy sandal]

Do I buy a cmoy deluxe

Nah I need the experience

[cunning anvil]

have yall seen the mini altoids tin? even smaller than the regular altoids tin?

i love it and want to shove a tiny computer in there

[glossy sandal]

Altoids small?

[cunning anvil]

yes so cute

[unkempt dome]

raspberry pie maybe

[glossy sandal]

I haven’t bought one in a long time

I like gum

[tawdry forge]

What are altoids?

[glossy sandal]

Mints, but we’re talking about the packaging

Little tin container

[tawdry forge]

Oh ok I've never seen them before

[cunning anvil]

how many keys do you really need even

[glossy sandal]

There’s tap dancing

https://youtu.be/XBV0piKtNjI

[cunning anvil]

ooh

[glossy sandal]

yeye tap dancing is pretty cool

[cunning anvil]

i am too tired to process what tap dancing is from that vid rn

been using a 36 key layout, i think i could reduce it to 34 with thumb combos

[glossy sandal]

I use like 3 layers

actually I use 2 lel

Wait shift counts as a layer

3 layers

[cunning anvil]

i think the map i use has like 7? idk

[glossy sandal]

just buy a tkl it’s so much better!!!! 🐛

[cunning anvil]

bug?

[glossy sandal]

It’s there to let you know it’s satire

[cunning anvil]

i thought thats what the 4 !s were for

and "just"

but i appreciate the explicit warning

[chilly perch]

What is tap dance

[cunning anvil]

i think im getting close to the point where i wanna actually design a keyboard, nothing scratches all the itches for me right now

i feel like itll be a painful experience though

where would be a good place to get like 20 keycaps with multiple symbols on them?

[glossy sandal]

Aren’t those trashcons

[cunning anvil]

trashcons?

trying to think if i want to keep a staggered qwerty around for people who want to use my computer sometimes

[paper otter]

i know this sounds wild but my keyboard is shutting down my pc

[twilit flare]

Loool

[amber tartan]

then dont plug in the board

[paper otter]

i just don't anymore

bro I swear I tried everything

thermal paste

unplugging everything

check connections

viruses

somehow this fucking keyboard shuts down my pc

I'm legit using my old one which is broken

at least my pc doesn't turn off

[amber tartan]

i think this is more of a power issue

[cunning anvil]

my old membrane keyboard had a power button that actually worked

[paper otter]

shouldn't be, at least, i had a beefier RGB one and didn't flinch once

but it was kinda my brothers so he took it when he moved out

i think it's just broken and inputting random shit making it turn off

[glossy sandal]

[glossy sandal]

wawa

[quaint ruin]

I'm customizing a keyboard and need to know what ones are the quietist

[unkempt dome]

silent red

[quaint ruin]

thank you

since its out of stock will the red work fine aswell?

[glossy sandal]

It’ll definitely be quieter than clicky switches if you’re using one now

[glossy sandal]

What’re you buying?

[quaint ruin]

https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/super-90s-by-skeletor-104-key-v3-custom-mechanical-keyboard.html

[glossy sandal]

Interesting..

[quaint ruin]

the keys i have rn are pretty clicky

[glossy sandal]

Yeah should be a step down in terms of silent then

[onyx summit]

blues /s

[glossy sandal]

Who pinged me

[slow horizon]

Hmm.

Trying to look for a keyboard for less than $100, coming up short with Amazon.

[glossy sandal]

what’s your criteria

size? layout? etc etc

In any case, can’t go wrong with keychron v series

[slow horizon]

@glossy sandal so basically, I’m trying to find something that has a numpad, but in a smaller form factor.

[glossy sandal]

So a 1800?

[slow horizon]

I’m new to keyboard lingo, unfortunately.

Something kinda like this.

[glossy sandal]

https://thegamingsetup.com/wp-content/uploads/Keyboard-Size-Guide-The-Gaming-Setup-scaled.jpg

[slow horizon]

Oh okay hold on

[glossy sandal]

This is a really weird layout

Like no boards use this

[slow horizon]

Yeah you know what, an 1800 looks about right.

Transitioning away from a Roccat Vulcan TKL

[glossy sandal]

Keychron V5 is the pretty go to choice for 1800 under 100$

[slow horizon]

Looking for something with a bit more of a click feel so I can tell if I hit the key or not.

[glossy sandal]

Ah

Do you like the sound of clicky switches?

[slow horizon]

The Vulcan was nice, but god if I mistyped so many times cause I couldn’t tell if I hit the keys.

[slow horizon]

It’s more the response of the spring loading that pulses my finger, if that makes sense.

[glossy sandal]

So you like the spring weight of blues?

the weight of the spring as it presses down?

[slow horizon]

Yeah, cause I can feel it when it clicks in.

[glossy sandal]

I think you’re talking about the clickjacket

[slow horizon]

The what now

[glossy sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-switches-gif-25953766

the white bit is the click jacket and that’s what makes the click sound and feel

[slow horizon]

Oh then yeah, basically i just want the vibration it makes when it clicks in

[glossy sandal]

I see

[slow horizon]

Cause I mistype on linear switches like Reds

[glossy sandal]

I understand

A keychron v5 with blue switches sounds like it would be up your alley

89-99$ depending on configuration

[slow horizon]

“Currently unavailable from brand” on Amazon lol

[glossy sandal]

unfortunate

https://keychron.com

You can also buy from keychron direct

It’ll take longer and shipping will be a bit more expensive

[slow horizon]

Hmm

I have no idea what the difference between fully assembled and fully assembled knob mean tbh

[amber tartan]

one with knob

you knobhead

[slow horizon]

[glossy sandal]

Knob

default is left for volume down right for volume up and press down for play/pause

[slow horizon]

Hmm.

[glossy sandal]

You can rebind it to other stuff idk dude “lol

[slow horizon]

Does this seem like an okay board? Out of curiosity.

[glossy sandal]

[slow horizon]

I know it’s not the Keychron, but

I just know for sure I’m not going with Redragon cause my brother had one

I’ll look into the Keychron, I suppose.

Not gonna make a decision right away on it, cause the Vulcan at least still is working properly.

[glossy sandal]

This is probably worse than your brothers red dragon lel

[slow horizon]

For real? Lol

I just wish half of these non-TKL keyboards didn’t cost an arm and a leg.

[rain fern]

Durock t1 is best clicky

you can feel the click but its not as loud as cherry mx blues

[slow horizon]

Let me check it out. Is it on Amazon?

[rain fern]

and boba u4ts are budget but really good

you would need a hotswap board

[slow horizon]

Oh.

Yeah I’m not savvy with Keyboards, as ironic as that sounds.

(But at least I admit it)

[rain fern]

yea than cherry mx blues your best option

honestly

the best budget mech keyboard i can recommend would be the redragon k552

[slow horizon]

Oh boy.

[rain fern]

lmao

its hotswap

[slow horizon]

My brother bought one of those bundles with the keyboard and mouse.

I don’t think it was the k552 specifically

But the keyboard was mushier than play dough.

[rain fern]

redragon sells poo bundles

k552 is cheap doe

and its good for the price

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-Dust-Switches/dp/B016MAK38U/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2EJ5QJBRL3CRI&keywords=redragon%2Bk552&qid=1672738424&sprefix=redragon%2Bk552%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzVFdGVUgwV1M4NVBFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjgwMjcxNDNQRDdXTFlJTlRZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxMzM0NjAxRjRaNzNaSlMxS1Y0JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

[slow horizon]

Oh and it’s a TKL, what I’m trying to avoid lol

[rain fern]

oh gotcha

full sized?

u want

[slow horizon]

1800 preferred.

But full size I can hopefully make work.

[rain fern]

steelseries apex 5 good option

[slow horizon]

I would have gone with the Logitech G Pro if it wasn’t a TKL lol

[rain fern]

more expensive doe

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Apex-Hybrid-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B07ZGDD6B1/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=3H5PJEQVSAQX8&keywords=steelseries%2Bkeyboard&qid=1672738493&sprefix=steelseries%2Bkeyboard%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUjdIUVlPMFFFSlE5JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzU3ODUwM00yNzJYQUhKRzdTSSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODU1NDM3UUVHNDUxT1c1ME1BJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

[slow horizon]

On sale for $69 (nice)

[rain fern]

yes

[slow horizon]

Doesn’t look like there’s any other options available in terms of keeping with the theme of components that I have lol

[rain fern]

https://www.amazon.com/FIRSTBLOOD-ONLY-AK35I-Hot-Swappable-Mechanical/dp/B09JSRKCTM/ref=sr_1_26?crid=1U8Z02WRPAV2C&keywords=full%2Bsized%2Bmechanical%2Bkeyboard&qid=1672738592&sprefix=full%2Bsized%2Bm%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-26&th=1

pretty nice and good price

[rain fern]

whats the theme

[slow horizon]

Well I have a G502.

[rain fern]

white or black

or is it one of those weird ones

[slow horizon]

Black, but I’m just tired of installing keyboard / mouse software on my PC tbh lmao

[rain fern]

then dont lmao

you dont need it

[slow horizon]

I already gotta suffer with Roccat, Logitech, and Corsair fighting each other.

Oh and MSI.

[rain fern]

lmao

[slow horizon]

…and ASUS.

[rain fern]

try razer

[slow horizon]

I will wake the world with my Green switches. Fear me!

[rain fern]

lmao

some razer switches are pretty nice

some are janky

[slow horizon]

@rain fern Honest reason I stopped going with Razer is the jank software.

Synapse would legit cause my PC to crash.

Which was just…

[rain fern]

lmfaooo

never used razer

anything

[slow horizon]

I will say I had a Mamba T.E from them

And it lasted something like 6-7 years.

[glossy sandal]

those are tactile..

[rain fern]

ik

they were talking about blues

he likes the click

[glossy sandal]

yeah, t1s still aren’t clicky

[rain fern]

not what i meant

he likes the click jacket in blues

[glossy sandal]

so tactile

[rain fern]

im trying to explain it like he doesnt know anything

im sure he doesnt know what tactile is

[glossy sandal]

But click jackets and tactile bumps aren’t the same thing

they won’t feel the same..

[rain fern]

still have a click feeling just without the noise

like a brown

[glossy sandal]

click feeling is so broad

there’s a lot more to tactiles than a click feeling

[rain fern]

im not gonna give him an essay on tactile switches

[glossy sandal]

reds pretty much all blend together because they’re meant to be a smooth press down aside from like springs and materials and stuff

[rain fern]

he just wants a recommendation for a keyboard

[glossy sandal]

then why recommend a switch that doesn’t feel like blues

[slow horizon]

I uh… just to poke my head in again, i do go by they.

[rain fern]

mb

[slow horizon]

All good!

[glossy sandal]

in any case, blue switches are your best bet

[slow horizon]

I mean I could forego the numpad again and just go with the G Pro, since it’s on sale for less than $100, if worse comes to worse.

[glossy sandal]

doesn’t matter what manufacturer, they’re meant to resemble each other

[rain fern]

if you want a heavy click kind of feeling blue is the way

slight click, brown

red and yellow smooth

[rain fern]

outemu and cherrys have diff sound profiles

[slow horizon]

Logitech G PRO Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Ultra Portable Tenkeyless Design, Detachable Micro USB Cable, 16.8 Million Color LIGHTSYNC RGB Backlit Keys https://a.co/d/g9GN8U5 this thing.

[rain fern]

yep

should be good if you want a tkl

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Best part is I can get it shipped same day from Amazon.

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obviously a switch with a different housing will sound different

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I can forego the numpad this time around if it means a more comfortable keyboard tbfh

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but they’ll feel similar feel wise

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meh

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g pro kind of expensive for no reason

but it is on sale

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if it’s expensive for no reason then don’t buy it..

it’s just gamer gear

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wasnt saying i was gonna buy it

stating my opinion

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I’m so confused.

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we couldve done this alot faster

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I mean you’re recommending gamer gear and cheap red dragon

why wouldn’t I comment on that

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ok recommend him a pcb and let him figure out how to do it

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Why would I do that

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lets see your good recommendations

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Keychron V3 for tkl, v5/v6 for 1800/full size

no nonsense prebuilts

both are purchasable with blue switches

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pretty sure they want rgb but not sure

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They have rgb lighting.

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It does help me see in the dark.

Also again, just wanna emphasize the they part.

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V3 is on Amazon btw

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mb again

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Gotta try to keep it slightly under $100, cause of tax.

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ones i recommended are good for budget

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Akko 5087s then

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but gastrail prolly knows more

im not crazy into keyboards

just know a few options

they all gonna sound the same if you dont mod them anyway

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It looks kinda similar to the G Pro, oddly enough.

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the keychron?

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The akko

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oh yea it does

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it does, does not feel the same though.

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also hot swap

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I still have no idea how any of that works.

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g pro uses wack proprietary switches and odd keycap sizes

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yea its gross lmao

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hotswap just means it uses hotswap sockets so you can swap switches whenever you want

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very handy if you break a switch somehow

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Hmm.

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or just want a different feel

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If a board needs mods to sound good, it is poorly designed

Atleast in my opinion :^)

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not the board, just the case. but usually cheaper brands use crap pcb so your right

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Now I know how people feel when I try to explain pc components to them.