peripherals

[forest pebble]

This one is less colorful but nice

[chrome raft]

They’re the same switch

[stoic tangle]

Banana switches are slightly smoother, louder but deeper sounding, pretty close though

[forest pebble]

Haven't tried splits

[twilit flare]

Did you take these images

[untold orchid]

I cant see a switch being smoother than alpacas ngl

these are literal butter

[chrome raft]

Alpacas are not peak smooth

[forest pebble]

Wym

It's all mine

[jagged raven]

i have an issue withh my keyboard it keeps putting two hh's even if i touchh it lighhtly

see

ahahahha

[stoic tangle]

The switch might be the issue, what keyboard do you have?

I mean clack isn't very descriptive, do you mean higher pitched?

If you want budget switches gateron milky yellow pros are the goto

[trail kite]

g903 has plastic on the sides that feels like rubber
right?
or is it rubber?

cause if it is rubber ill just turn g903 back and get myself g502x

[twilit flare]

What phone

They look good

[pastel drift]

ong

[forest pebble]

P6 pro

[forest pebble]

Yeah sorry google pixel 6 pro

[twilit flare]

Thanks

[forest pebble]

It's doing quite good photo for someone who has no talent like me 😁

The pixel 4a i had before was good also

Not as good though, now I can make keybor pics even on low light

[chrome raft]

Pixel and iPhone are the only valid phones

[normal fiber]

Nuphy air75 good?

It's a reasonable size

Why the hell do people want small ass keyboards

Use your phone keyboard smh

[chrome raft]

Why the hell do people want big ass keyboards

Use layers smh

[stoic tangle]

75% for the WIN

[chrome raft]

75% is just an objectively less useful and uglier form of the TKL

[stoic tangle]

Hard disagree, qk75 is a masterpiece

[chrome raft]

It’s just a 65% but with an extra layer while a 65% is just a 60% for people who bitched about arrow keys

[stoic tangle]

A fair amount of people don't like low profile switches but you maybe be different

[chrome raft]

It’s an unnatural mutation of a keyboard

TKL is natural and ordered, a trim version of the original 100%

[stoic tangle]

I shouldn't have to use two buttons just to arrow around lol

[glossy sandal]

Maybe just learn how to use layers

[normal fiber]

I mean it seems like a pretty good portable keyboard

[normal fiber]

Nah too lazy

[chrome raft]

If you want a 75% get a V1

[glossy sandal]

takes the same amount of work, even less to use a layer on a 65% compared to 75%

[normal fiber]

I'm mostly looking at 75s or tkl

[glossy sandal]

I hold one button and press another which I already am in the general area of and I have the key I want

[chrome raft]

Then for TKL get a v3

[glossy sandal]

It depends how much you’re willing to spend

V3 is a budget board

[normal fiber]

2 in stock and only in blue

Well

[chrome raft]

where are you even lookin

[glossy sandal]

There’s some on Amazon

Some on keychron.com

[normal fiber]

They sell on amazon?

[glossy sandal]

some on newegg(?)

Yeah

[normal fiber]

That makes it a bit more convenient

Gonna check

[stoic tangle]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v1-qmk-via-custom-mechanical-keyboard
V1 has stock

[glossy sandal]

Lowkey

[normal fiber]

1 in stock for v3

Reds

[glossy sandal]

If there’s a 40 v series board I’ll pick it up

[stoic tangle]

There's a Q for fiends like you lol https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q9-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

[glossy sandal]

I know but I don’t like the price tag on something I’ll barely use

[stoic tangle]

Yeah fair

[glossy sandal]

I just hope they don’t use that cursed layout

[stoic tangle]

Are there other cursed 40 layouts?

[normal fiber]

should i only look at reds?

since im a gamer

and it seems like reds are usually favored for gaming

[chrome raft]

you’re new aren’t you

just get the milky yellow pros

Keychron V3 + MYP + Keycap set you like

[normal fiber]

yeah

duh

[chrome raft]

a lot of mainstream switches have colour grades

Cherry Mx, gateron, etc

[normal fiber]

well to be specific

linear

[chrome raft]

Red is the light “gaming switch”, yellow is the better weight linear, brown is poop and black is heavy

Yellow switches are better than reds imo

Get yellow gateron as your first switch

They’re linear

[stoic tangle]

Yeah but it's not keychron prebuilt, unless they're willing to custom build

[normal fiber]

im willing to get my hands dirty if those gateron yellows are good

[chrome raft]

You’re not getting anything dirty

It’s like legos

[normal fiber]

me about to break a switch :troll

[chrome raft]

Get a barebones hotswap kit + gateron yellows + keycap set

That’s what I recommend to beginners

You get that custom feel and customization without going too far down the rabbit whole

You can get one after you’ve built a single keyboard

[stoic tangle]

If you want you can get the prebuilt first since it's barely more expensive. It's hotswap so you can swap them out whenever you want and you keep the keycaps for budget

[chrome raft]

That’s only if you like the keycaps tho

Imo it’s a waste of money

Since I switch out all the parts anyways

Keychron default keycaps are doo doo

Cherry profile double shot is standard and cheap these days

[normal fiber]

where do i look for keycaps then

[chrome raft]

You can get everything from the same suppliers

It’s only 3 parts which I love

[stoic tangle]

Their keycaps are fine, but you can do better. If someone's budgeting they're great tho

[chrome raft]

No need to think about stabilizers or pcb

Barebones + switches + keycaps

Then you build it like Lego

[normal fiber]

cant seem to find them in keychron's website

the switches

unless they are under a differnt name?

[stoic tangle]

No you won't get yellows from them

[normal fiber]

ok

[chrome raft]

Where are you located

USA?

[normal fiber]

yeah

[chrome raft]

Keebsforall.com has free shipping over 15$

You’ll need 90 switches for a TKL which is a bit over 15

https://keebsforall.com/products/gateron-ks-3-milky-yellow-pro-linear-switches

They also sell keycaps

Just find a cheap set you like

No need for GMK

You should look for a way to get a barebones kit you like with free shipping too

[stoic tangle]

If you wanna mix your caps later cannonkeys has bogo keycaps i think

[normal fiber]

if it s v3 then 88 it seems

[chrome raft]

Get 90

[normal fiber]

ok

replacements i guess

[stoic tangle]

Switches tend to come in packs, don't tend to get specific amounts

That too

[chrome raft]

Not on keebs for all

Singular switch for 24c each

Anyways get a couple extra, a keycap set you like and a barebones kit you like

[stoic tangle]

Oh right i forgot, they're neat

[chrome raft]

They might even have custom cables

[stoic tangle]

Cablemod on Amazon has real good quality cables but they're little pricey

[chrome raft]

Scratch that they’re cringe aviator

I’ll stick with Mochi cables

[stoic tangle]

O, I like aviator personally

Useless but neat

[chrome raft]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0527/1368/5177/products/eb263733-c269-420c-872a-fd349e686687_1200x1200.jpg?v=1622086571

I like aviator too

Not coiled tho

[stoic tangle]

Ah, yeah I dunno I like coiled, matched vibes from my headphones too

[chrome raft]

To each their own ig

[normal fiber]

do i need to know compatibility for keys?

these catched my eye https://keebsforall.com/products/pbtfans™-spark-keycap-set-doubleshot-pbt

[chrome raft]

Don’t worry, keycaps like those are MX style and you’re using MX clones

[stoic tangle]

I'd recommend waiting for black Friday since it's so close though

[chrome raft]

Yeah just a couple days

I need to get a new pair of headphones

Either between the DT990 or Hd560s

[normal fiber]

so far what im getting totals to 140

[chrome raft]

For a TKL what you want is a cherry profile

It’s what most prefer

[normal fiber]

i think ill go for the included cable

fancy cable not my thing

[stoic tangle]

Yeah its only aesthetic no other merit lol

What kit did you pick?

[normal fiber]

uhh

v3 + yellows + blue keycaps i found

barebones knob

[stoic tangle]

Oh didn't know they had v3, sweet

[normal fiber]

they barely have any fully assembled

but they do have barebones lol

looks like no one wants to put in the time

[chrome raft]

barebones is the way anyways

if you get a “custom keyboard” prebuilt you’re weird

It’s only like 10 minutes of work and super fun to assemble a easy barebones kit

Also you can pick your own switches and keycaps

[glossy sandal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/775396649295675457/1016534525175681074/output-onlinegiftools.gif

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/mikasa-ackerman-funny-attack-on-gif-20433286

[glossy sandal]

custom keyboards are NOT the way

i hate to sound like a broken record but one is not better than the other, they're just different

[chrome raft]

I mean if you’re already interested in them don’t get a prebuilt keychron it takes 10 minutes and a couple extra dollars to make it smoother or more tactile or sound better and your own

To be fair I don’t recommend anyone get into this hobby

Just get a Logitech tkl, mouse, mousepad , headset and be done with it

[blissful dragon]

could you specify?

[stoic tangle]

I mean people should be allowed to get a prebuilt V3 which would be way better than a Logitech and be done with it

[blissful dragon]

like the most basic logitech TKL or what?

[chrome raft]

I like to have brand uniformity and control everything from a single software

I’m an enthusiast but I kinda wish I was ignorant

Just getting that 200$ Logitech wireless tkl and a GPX and a g pro x headset

I remember the days when I thought the top end razer keyboard was literally the greatest keyboard of all time

I mean it had RGB and said gamer how could it not

so I’d rather be ignorant tbh and just have all Logitech peripherals

They’re not the best but they do just work and there’s no waiting a year for a keycap set or the endless chase for endgame

Also all Logitech set up sounds nice

[blissful dragon]

true

im getting a logitech keyboard, mouse and desk pad

but i think im getting a hyperx headset

[chrome raft]

I’d get a logi one since you got all Logitech everything else

[stoic tangle]

I would still recommend Keychron but if you need the uniformity then yeah

[chrome raft]

But that’s me and my stubbornness

All Logitech and a group buy unique keyboard seems alright too

[blissful dragon]

i want a cheaper keyboard

[glossy sandal]

you get what you pay for

buy junk, buy twice

[blissful dragon]

C1 is like 700 in my currency and that's a lot

[glossy sandal]

stack ya bread g

if you need one asap though, office boards work and are plentiful

[twilit flare]

Lol

[stoic tangle]

Even the C1?

[blissful dragon]

like the logitech one that im going after is 1/10 of that keychron iirc

[normal fiber]

i mean idk there might be some universal rgb software out there for whatever peripherals you may have

[chrome raft]

I believe in buy once buy well

[blissful dragon]

yeah

[stoic tangle]

Sorry V1

[glossy sandal]

c1 is more than v1 selix

[blissful dragon]

huh

[glossy sandal]

also btw, are you stil in hiypo?

[blissful dragon]

uhhh

[glossy sandal]

not you

[blissful dragon]

oh

[blissful dragon]

but i do want a nice mechanical keyboard, so im probably going to get a K120 then save up for a C1

[glossy sandal]

maybe aim a bit higher (for the saving up bit)

[twilit flare]

Wait for Christmas honestly

[stoic tangle]

That's why I fixed it to V1 lol

[onyx summit]

whats the best set of budget pbt keycaps

[chrome raft]

there’s no best set tbh

you could go with a trusted brand like pbt fans I guess

[onyx summit]

good cheap set then

[chrome raft]

Literally any double shot cherry profile set

https://www.keychron.com/collections/cherry-profile-double-shot-pbt-keycaps/products/cherry-profile-double-shot-pbt-full-set-keycaps-white-on-black-wob#

Even keychron has some for cheap

Although I wouldn’t get these coz shipping

[onyx summit]

and i live in canada

so ill probably get fucked in the ass more

are pudding keycaps good

[chrome raft]

noooo

one sec

[ionic briar]

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/polycaps-whale-pbt-keycaps/

[chrome raft]

There’s this in Canada

[ionic briar]

polycaps from local canadian vendor ashkeebs looks good

[onyx summit]

thats more then i spent on my switches

[chrome raft]

Obviously?

Switches are like 25c each

[chrome raft]

I’d get something like this @onyx summit

a lot of keyboard sellers like shockports or mechland have their own basic keycaps

[ionic briar]

or if you want different colors, polycaps on ashkeebs

[chrome raft]

They’re usually doubleshot cherry which is top tier

Only time I wouldn’t get cherry profile is 60% and under

Then I go XDA or DSA

Cherry profile slaps on TKL

[ionic briar]

doubleshot pbt is pretty good for durability
profile wise, its personal preference

[onyx summit]

Are these good https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B098K29294/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=ireviews017-20&camp=15121&creative=330641&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08MDYK7RQ&linkId=b6d825fd2e3ea343bd75186a6355b51b&th=1

[chrome raft]

Nah

What size is your keyboard

[onyx summit]

Full

[ionic briar]

might have below average quality control

[chrome raft]

Getting a proper set is going to be necessary

[ionic briar]

granted, i bought cheaper shine through than this set, but mine comes with spacebar diagonal warp, and after about 10 dismount the stems cracked for all the long keys

[chrome raft]

Don’t try and cheap out on random Chinese brands, even good suppliers have cheap models

https://shockport.com/collections/in-stock-keycap-sets/products/wob-pbt-doubleshot-keycaps

[stoic tangle]

As I said earlier, wait for black friday, you might catch better prices for keycaps

[chrome raft]

https://minokeys.com/collections/keycap-sets/products/epbt-pink-on-black-doubleshot-abs-keycap-set

This is 35% off

@onyx summit

[onyx summit]

Oos

[glossy sandal]

im a bit late buit

[chrome raft]

Don’t cheap out on keycaps and I’d recommend cherry profile

[glossy sandal]

switches should be the least expensive part of any build

imho

[chrome raft]

True

[onyx summit]

See but I have 100 buck

And spent alot on switches

[blissful dragon]

actually i was looking in the wrong website 💀 my bad

[onyx summit]

Hi lux

[blissful dragon]

hi jerry

[glossy sandal]

mistel is on amazon

it's decent double shot pbt

[stoic tangle]

You're good lol

[glossy sandal]

so is shenpo

i prefer shenpo because it's thicker but some people don't like beige

[stoic tangle]

If you're willing to wait you can get double shot pbt for 30 on aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801285924609.html?

[blissful dragon]

aliexpress ☠️

[glossy sandal]

what's wrong with ali express

[onyx summit]

Are they good

[glossy sandal]

decent

some of the best you're getting for the price without getting into vintage stuff

oh actually

[stoic tangle]

If you're staying away from obvious scams you can get great keeb stuff on there

[glossy sandal]

cannonkeys has a sale in 3 days

30$ mystery keycaps

[stoic tangle]

Oh true, I prefer bogo cause I don't wanna risk color schemes I have but for a first set that makes sense

[glossy sandal]

if i get mf hydrangea i will cry

[stoic tangle]

Oh that is not my vibe lol

Pretty but not for me

[onyx summit]

Link?

And is it a set

[glossy sandal]

alphas and numrow are cool but it looks odd otherwise

[glossy sandal]

it's sets yes

[glossy sandal]

https://cannonkeys.com

it's happening 12 am et nov 25

[stoic tangle]

I got sugarplum and minty from mystery, fire sets

[glossy sandal]

i want sugarplum bad

[onyx summit]

I no see

I pc hardware guy

Not keyboard guy

[stoic tangle]

What are you looking for?

[glossy sandal]

he's looking for the 30$ keycaps

like i said, it's available on the 25th. not now/

[stoic tangle]

It meshes so well 😁

[glossy sandal]

what board

is this the gas?

[stoic tangle]

Ye gas67

[elder forum]

[onyx summit]

why

[glossy sandal]

why what

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/whyy-noooo-cat-gif-26020991

[amber tartan]

passed gas

[dense remnant]

would anyone reccomend a keychron keyboard

???

[forest pebble]

Q series yes, V series on tight budget, K pro series if you are on budget and want bt

But if you want entry level custom keebs the Qwertykeys QK75 or Zoom TKL are great value

Cost more than Q series though

And it's group buys

[dense remnant]

well i have no budget but im looking for a 60-65% keyboard thats better thena razer hunstamn mini

[forest pebble]

If you are not familiar with group buys it's like a Kickstarter

You buy first, they use the money to make keebs

[dense remnant]

so the keychron is kinda like a kickstarter?

[forest pebble]

No budget is how much 😁

[forest pebble]

No

[harsh belfry]

keychron are normally the instock ones, ready to ship

[dense remnant]

well lets just go 400

[forest pebble]

They do Kickstarter on new series sometimes but keychron is instock

[forest pebble]

Oh well you can fit some entry level customs in that budget 😁

[dense remnant]

cause i always see a bunch at PLE (my pc store in aus)

[forest pebble]

400aud then

[dense remnant]

yes sir

[forest pebble]

So what would you prefer, 60 or 65

[glossy sandal]

Hi

[dense remnant]

well anythign in that range for size of keyboard

[glossy sandal]

260 usd..

And Australian

[forest pebble]

Yee sticking to keychron i think

[dense remnant]

like i can up the budget to inf but yeah

[forest pebble]

On my way to explain how my keyboard case cost 2.5k USD and there are people buying more expensive stuff 🫡

[dense remnant]

um excuse me tf

[forest pebble]

Nah I think Q2 or Q4 is the format you'll looking at

[dense remnant]

cause someone reccomended the k6 pro

[forest pebble]

It's cheaper indeed, but that one is 100% right

[glossy sandal]

Good if you need wireless

[forest pebble]

Oh 65

[glossy sandal]

Wouldn’t consider it in budget if you don’t care for wireless

[forest pebble]

It's not bad indeed

[dense remnant]

i prefer wired bc no bluetooth on my pc sadly

[forest pebble]

Good

[harsh belfry]

Q2 looks good to with the knob

[forest pebble]

Bluetooth is inferior than wired anyway 😁

keychron Q2 or Q4 then

Q2 is the 65%

Q4 the 60%

[glossy sandal]

Q2 layout is so funny looking

[forest pebble]

I mean it's a 65

[harsh belfry]

Q9 layout is funniest

[forest pebble]

Q9 is sadly Q2 without numrow

[dense remnant]

umm what hell si this

[forest pebble]

Autistic "40%" layout

They could have made something great

But no they made this

I guess it's that way so they have keycaps compatibility

[glossy sandal]

Exploded 65% layout 😭

[glossy sandal]

Wait until you see the iso knob version

[forest pebble]

Exploded is not bad, less cluttered

[dense remnant]

it seems like a kms kinda build

[harsh belfry]

could be worse

[glossy sandal]

the dill

gotta hate it

[amber tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/521617441617346563/869064062720438342/Check-out-these-jiggle-physics.gif

[forest pebble]

What kind of flex is this lok

[glossy sandal]

Yet again, it could be worse.

[forest pebble]

My archnemesis keyboard

[forest pebble]

At least it has purpose to fit base kit

[onyx summit]

Should I tape mod and pe foam mod my gmmk when I replace the switches

[glossy sandal]

Up to you

mods aren’t necessary

[forest pebble]

I dunno, what sound do you like

[onyx summit]

Thock

And how hard is it

[forest pebble]

Of course was stupid of me to ask, every one wants thocc

(not me)

[onyx summit]

What

[glossy sandal]

It’s not that hard

Just follow the instructions

[forest pebble]

Well PE foam sheet would work

[onyx summit]

Is the one in the box pe foam

[forest pebble]

Tape mod would make it louder ?

[glossy sandal]

I have no idea how but I managed to get the tape on TOP of the pcb

stabbed the switches through 3 layers of tape

[forest pebble]

I dunno, is thin whit ish sheet of foam ?

[onyx summit]

Yes

[forest pebble]

Cursed lmao

[glossy sandal]

It’s still on the board

Fully functional

Works like pe foam mod

maybe just feels a bit less soft

[forest pebble]

PE foam is different, different material

[glossy sandal]

gives similar effect

[onyx summit]

Wow tape isn't foam

[amber tartan]

who knew!

[chrome raft]

got an RK84 for my first step into the keyboard hobbyist game

really enjoying the red switches in here

i wanna start tinkering w/ it

[amber tartan]

im pretty sure the rk series is optical switches

[glossy sandal]

It’s not

some of the older versions are soldered switches

[chrome raft]

i don't think so

[forest pebble]

I'm sure I've seen mechanical ones

[glossy sandal]

some of the newer ones are hotswap

[chrome raft]

these are just mechanical hotswap

[glossy sandal]

rk boards sound kinda hollow from what I’ve seen

[forest pebble]

I mean optical are still "mechanical switches"

[glossy sandal]

If you’re going to do anything I’d put something to fill the empty space

[chrome raft]

yeah foam right

ive seen a lot of people add that to their keyboards

[glossy sandal]

if you want?

[chrome raft]

also some are using like

a rubber?

they put it in and wait for it to set

[glossy sandal]

I prefer to use something lighter so it doesn’t compromise sound as much

like polyfil

[forest pebble]

Just take note that hollow isnt necessarily bad but in budget stuff because it's either thin on materials or not done in a specific way to have sound, people like to stuff things so it mask the not nice type of hollowness

[glossy sandal]

the stuff in stuffed animals

[forest pebble]

Polyfill, coton whatever 😁

[chrome raft]

yeah so whatever fills the space

[glossy sandal]

sure

just make sure it’s not conductive

[chrome raft]

don't "thock"ier keyboards use denser stuff

[glossy sandal]

😭

[chrome raft]

i still dont get thock

its just not an appealing sound to me

bro just pulled the thock card

im just not entirely how the density of the material affects the sound and feel

https://tenor.com/view/thocky-thock-keyboard-enthusiast-custom-keyboard-gif-23191651

It’s just basic sound properties, thocc is a deep somewhat muted sound

Different types of materials do that

[forest pebble]

High density absorb the sound

[chrome raft]

yeah i imagined so

[amber tartan]

hes new to the thing give him some slack

[chrome raft]

thats what i thought

Clack >>

[forest pebble]

Tape mod seams to act as a higher frequency filter from what I heard ?

[glossy sandal]

Yeah I’ve heard that a bit

[chrome raft]

Depends on the switch

[glossy sandal]

drowns out the higher pitches

[forest pebble]

Not like it matters since I prefer a nice clack and harmonic sound

[chrome raft]

yeah i was thinking that certain materials would do more with different frequencies/tones

so i've seen tape, foam, cotton, tissues, etc.

[forest pebble]

Coins

[glossy sandal]

There’s silicone pours you could do

[chrome raft]

Noooo

[amber tartan]

concrete

[chrome raft]

yeah that rubber i saw

[forest pebble]

I'm meming kek @chrome raft

[chrome raft]

Ikik

i've seen people just place

fat metal plates

inside

i'm guessing that's just for mass

[glossy sandal]

what kinda keyboard yt

[chrome raft]

Do you want to try out thocc

[chrome raft]

it doesnt seem like something i'd be into

i'm liking the sound of my reds right now

[forest pebble]

On custom keebs we have internal weights, brass or stainless steel for density and cut part of the hollowness sound wise

[chrome raft]

not too loud, but audible

pleasant tone

not high or low in frequency

[glossy sandal]

Actual thought out internal weights are cool but putting metal in your case is jank

[forest pebble]

Well not all board have it, and it's always a matter of an overall solution rather than only the internal weight

[chrome raft]

yeah no they're like, made FOR that keyboard

[glossy sandal]

If you like the sound just don’t mess with it

[chrome raft]

yeah i was just wondering what different mods would do

[glossy sandal]

ah

foaming your boards makes them sound similar

kinda kills sound imo

[chrome raft]

what do o-rings do for the keyboard

[amber tartan]

keycap o rings are crap

[glossy sandal]

o rings on keys or as a mounting style?

[forest pebble]

Keeb concrete

[chrome raft]

not to mount them

just, on the switch

Summon demons

[glossy sandal]

wack

[amber tartan]

o ring on screw holes, meh

[chrome raft]

Make you suicidal

lmao

[amber tartan]

oring mount/ gummy mounts are the king

[chrome raft]

Nah top mount

[forest pebble]

Oh burger oring mod ?

[glossy sandal]

outdated mod to help make silent builds

[amber tartan]

gummy mounts gave birth to gasket mounts

[forest pebble]

Would make it better than tray mount I suppose

[amber tartan]

gummy mounts originated from the ancient kustom legends OTD

[chrome raft]

bro this server moderation is literally 1984

[glossy sandal]

seethe

[amber tartan]

yes, its definitely better, but its lacking in feel

[chrome raft]

can’t even say the name of a specific historical figure

[glossy sandal]

Yeah you can

George Washingmachine

[chrome raft]

oh sorry the orings werent on switches

not a German one with a funny moustache

they were on screw mounts

[glossy sandal]

Oh

[chrome raft]

i misremembered

[chrome raft]

cope

just get a better keyboard

[glossy sandal]

Supposedly helps the typing feel

Makes it softer

makes it flex, if not just a tiny bit

kinda jank though

[chrome raft]

flex?

how would that happen'

[glossy sandal]

keyboards can flex

[chrome raft]

yeah i know

im just wondering how adding an oring to a screw mount would add flex

[amber tartan]

the orings are rubber which can bend and squish

[forest pebble]

I don't see Burger oring mount as a way to add flex, it rather dampens the diffusion in the case

[chrome raft]

yes

wouldn't that just be an inconsequential amount of flex if you screwed it in properly though?

[amber tartan]

no

[chrome raft]

i need to try this

[amber tartan]

because theres 4 screws

[forest pebble]

It's like super marginal

[amber tartan]

burger mounts are barely flexy enough

[chrome raft]

i still don't think the 4 o-rings would add that much flex that it'd be problematic

but id have to try it

[glossy sandal]

kind of a cope thing

to people who want a gasket mount

[forest pebble]

Don't worry about flex 😁

[glossy sandal]

top mount best mount (real 100%)

[forest pebble]

I mean it's not bad, but can't beat top mount

[chrome raft]

Fr fr

Top mount supremacy

is this diagram accurate

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/6116b9604a8e6b639a58a447/1628879206520-0ARJ4J6QZ26O3HHGYOSW/thomas-baart_20190407_KeyboardMountingStylesCheatSheet.png

[forest pebble]

Yes

[chrome raft]

it looks pretty logical

[glossy sandal]

yuh

[chrome raft]

based off what i mreading

cool

i wanna get into keyboards bc it seems fun and relatively affordable as a hobby

Top n bottom are where itx at

[chrome raft]

LOL

[glossy sandal]

Affordable

[amber tartan]

this is a super small amount of mounts, and this is what the names "originally" meant but mounts can change and evolve overtime

[glossy sandal]

[forest pebble]

I have one of my board in sandwich mount and it's quite good, very stiff

[chrome raft]

relatively affordable

[amber tartan]

and names remain the same

[chrome raft]

compared to the other hobbies this server hosts

cars, computers, VR, audio tech

consider picking up the hobby of napping

[forest pebble]

Yee

[amber tartan]

audio tech is on par with keyboards

[chrome raft]

i hate naps

[glossy sandal]

rise and grind

[forest pebble]

Keyboards hobby is like less than cars for sure

[chrome raft]

if you don't nap for long enough then you feel groggy

and i cant nap for long

idk man you seen TGR

[forest pebble]

I dunno what is a normal audiophile expense

5k ?

[chrome raft]

i've seen extreme audiophiles spend tens of thousands

i cannot imagine how you could do that on a keyboard

[forest pebble]

It's not like tgr are everywhere, so price is hard

[glossy sandal]

You probably can’t go over 10k

[chrome raft]

yeah i wouldn't think so

so when i saw affordable

[glossy sandal]

Most I’ve seen was an 8888$ proto Jane

[chrome raft]

im talking about compared to the other stuff here

[forest pebble]

Get OTD 356cl, more than 10k if you ever find a seller

[amber tartan]

"proto" jane

its one and only

[forest pebble]

There are deals done in the shadow

[chrome raft]

jewish keyboard vendors

[forest pebble]

Because it's super rare and it's sold to people knowing each others

[amber tartan]

OTDs are cool for collecting but its outdated

[glossy sandal]

That’s what the seller listed

[forest pebble]

Make sense if you want to be sure if it's a real one

[glossy sandal]

I never looked into it because I don’t really care for super rare boRds

[forest pebble]

Starting at some point in price, you buy for hype, history and rarity

Which doesn't make sense unless you want a collection

[chrome raft]

MOONDROP made a keyboard

[glossy sandal]

We know

[forest pebble]

Who

[chrome raft]

so im just wondering, why isn't hotswap that common for DIY keyboards (as far as i can see, i haven't consumed a huge amount of keyboard content)

[glossy sandal]

It’s super common

[chrome raft]

The audio manufacturer

[forest pebble]

Oh yeah I saw that one

[chrome raft]

feared i'd get this response

[forest pebble]

With integrated dac

[chrome raft]

https://drop.com/buy/moondrop-keyboard-dash

[forest pebble]

It's quite common, until you start going to higher end stuff. Reasoning is more layout support on soldered PCB and in theory better sounds

[chrome raft]

Better sound?

Never heard that one before

[chrome raft]

i see

are there any like keyboard blogs

i'll try r/mechanicalkeyboards

[glossy sandal]

just stalk geekhack

[chrome raft]

geekhack

okay

[forest pebble]

I did but never tried to understand the theory

[glossy sandal]

geekhack you can find a bunch of ics and stuff and go from there

[forest pebble]

But weird but I'd say difference should be quite marginal

IC : interest check

[glossy sandal]

oh yeah

[amber tartan]

geekhack lol

[chrome raft]

GB: great buy

[amber tartan]

Raffle: free keyboard

[forest pebble]

Land of the teethless

[glossy sandal]

Obamus spreading misinformation

[forest pebble]

Win to pay for keyboard

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[forest pebble]

Kek

[chrome raft]

GMK: great motherfucking keycaps

[glossy sandal]

Cherry: undisputed best switch

[chrome raft]

that’s not even an acronym boo

[glossy sandal]

bleh

[amber tartan]

(not me)

[glossy sandal]

what is silly little alex doing there

[forest pebble]

Is that TOP Gamer ?

[chrome raft]

LOL

yes that is the Top Gamer

[harsh belfry]

try to stay on topic

[chrome raft]

bouta say Santa isn’t real either huh

[forest pebble]

Good thing that we aren't 5y olds

[chrome raft]

who’s we

[forest pebble]

Peeps here

[glossy sandal]

I’m atleast 97

[forest pebble]

6h old ar best 😁

[chrome raft]

I’m 8

[glossy sandal]

banned

[forest pebble]

97 years old ?

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/greenscreen-snap-disintegrate-thanos-emoji-gif-22338008

[chrome raft]

97cm

[glossy sandal]

I am not

[forest pebble]

97cm old

I see

[glossy sandal]

don’t you dare lie

I dropped a Mode80 on my legs and they broke

[chrome raft]

ohh you’re the degenerate who’s into the mode80 five head

[glossy sandal]

I literally just said a name

if I say something it doesn’t mean I’m an enthusiast regarding it

[chrome raft]

remember you from that mechanical keyboard discord sever a while back

[glossy sandal]

which

[forest pebble]

Five head ?

[chrome raft]

Literally every word is restricted in this server

[forest pebble]

93cm here

[glossy sandal]

August Dunn

What’s up man

[forest pebble]

Really ? Wtf

[glossy sandal]

Thought I did recognize you

You were so civil when you were August </3

[forest pebble]

He now chooses violence

[glossy sandal]

he got banned thrice

once for praising some not so nice things

another I think he just left

And a third time for ban evading

[chrome raft]

https://tenor.com/view/symphogear-senki-zesshou-symphogear-aahh-anime-chris-yukine-gif-17589807

[forest pebble]

Ban evading lmao

[glossy sandal]

come boost the server again august

[chrome raft]

anyone know of a better way too watch group buys ?

[amber tartan]

use your eyes

[chrome raft]

geekhack is a pain because every time someone comments on a board it gets boosted to the top so you have to look for hours for a new group buy

[glossy sandal]

mechgroupbuys

[amber tartan]

with glasses (optional)

[amber tartan]

mechgroupbuys

jinx tbh

[glossy sandal]

bite me

[chrome raft]

Yes but does MGB handle all new IC AND GB?

[amber tartan]

or just join their discord honestly

[chrome raft]

What about stuff like keycult raffles or Monokei

[amber tartan]

most of them yes

big brands

[chrome raft]

I’m looking for a top mounted 40%

I’ll just join some discord servers

[forest pebble]

Join 40% discord server

[glossy sandal]

did the alish40 not satisfy

[glossy sandal]

40s people are scary

[chrome raft]

40s are inherently superior

They have the same functionality as a TKL when used right and take up less space also you can type very fast since you don’t have to move your hands like at all

[glossy sandal]

You could say the same thing about any layout smaller than tkl

I don’t see your point

[chrome raft]

Yeah but it’s even smaller and even faster

[glossy sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854357047373987844/1043490173473787944/IMG_2211.jpg

[chrome raft]

Anything sub 40% is eh tho because you loose your alphas and then you need to start holding multiple keys for a single command

[glossy sandal]

goodnight august

[chrome raft]

ily cutie<3

[deep charm]

Does anyone know if Keychron does a Black Friday sale?

[chrome raft]

Wait a couple days and find out

[deep charm]

https://tenor.com/view/touche-janelle-carson-the-ms-pat-show-cant-argue-with-that-good-point-gif-25239895

[amber tartan]

you can also wait for cyber monday

on 28th

[chrome raft]

https://youtu.be/E5SpPI3yA5U

[normal fiber]

I feel like they might not since most of their custom keyboards don't allow discount codes

Iirc

[stoic tangle]

It might be built in price changes

[normal fiber]

And plus you can tell if they will because most companies do sales even before Friday itself

[stoic tangle]

They had a sale on Q3 i think for example the other week

Only one way to find out but I'm pretty sure theyll have something

[chrome raft]

When I think about it custom keyboards aren’t even a good deal

Razer peripherals go on sale for 40% off or more regularly

You can pick up their top of the line model for like 120$

Meanwhile you can’t get group buys on sale

Or stabilizers or switches

Nothing really goes on sale so you end up spending like 200$ for a budget custom

[stoic tangle]

I mean I disagree, could get a GAS67, gateron yellows, and cannonkeys mystery keycaps for like 110 and have a leagues better board

[chrome raft]

Maybe I’m just stupid

[stoic tangle]

Razer peripherals can go so low because they're made so cheaply

[chrome raft]

My first custom was supposed to be cheap

The base kit was like 65$

But because I’m a moron I ended up spending like 250 Canadian

[stoic tangle]

Was it the keycaps?

[chrome raft]

30$ stabilizers
30$ lube
10$ tools and film
120$ keyboard barebone
30$ keycaps

65usd + 20usd shipping for the barebones

I think I messed up with the stabilizers and lube

[stoic tangle]

Oh barebones normally includes stabilizers

[chrome raft]

I didn’t need all those lubes and those expensive Durocks

[stoic tangle]

Wait was barebone 85 or 120

[chrome raft]

85usd

120cad

[stoic tangle]

Ahhh

[boreal rivet]

you spent 30 cad on lube?

[chrome raft]

205g0 105 and XHT

[boreal rivet]

and 30 on stabs???

[chrome raft]

stabz are expensive man

[stoic tangle]

But barebones normally include them

[chrome raft]

https://shockport.com/products/durock-stabilizer-v2-smokey-screw-mounted?_pos=3&_sid=14876da71&_ss=r

I could of saved 10$ if I got everything from the same place, I paid 8$ for shipping on the switches and like 3x2$ on mail items

[boreal rivet]

bro got suckered damn

[stoic tangle]

I mean if you wanna upgrade later or want best of the best sure, but I don't think it's fair to say building a customs are always expensive when that's the example, could use what comes with the kit

[chrome raft]

If I got some 205g0 and the switches from shockport along with the switches I could of saved like 20$

I just need to be smarter about it

Now however I do have a lot of spare lube and some tools

So if I want to build my final endgame keyboard I’ll be able to pretty easily

[stoic tangle]

It was an investment to go deeper into the rabbithole 🧠

[chrome raft]

I’m aiming for a perfect TKL

[stoic tangle]

I mean zoom tkl is as good as you can reasonably get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxE6t12K_Uo

I just ordered the kit but assembled edition isn't a bad deal

[chrome raft]

I shouldn’t dwell on my bad financial decisions

It’s only like a quarter grand

Next time I’ll plan it more seriously

[boreal rivet]

if you want something perfect then I suggest you look away from mx

[stoic tangle]

You mean topre? Idk heard it's a love or hate kinda thing

[chrome raft]

Alps?

[boreal rivet]

I mean alps

[chrome raft]

eh I’m fine with MX

[boreal rivet]

wont be perfect then imho 🤷

[chrome raft]

I’ll look into alps just to be sure

To be honest I just wanna get out of this hobby and make a really nice endgame TKL

Don’t care if it costs a grand

[stoic tangle]

I mean nothing is perfect lol, endgame is just a lie to keep people from leaving the rabbithole

[chrome raft]

I’ve got time tho so imma spam as many Monokei TGR raffles as I can

[stoic tangle]

First it's 200, then 500, then 1000, then a keycult

[chrome raft]

Keycult is garbage

Rather have a mode eighty tbh

[stoic tangle]

Smart, but yeah idk I still disagree with the idea of endgame

[chrome raft]

Endgame is just what you like most

I’ll have to be on the look out on geekhack

[forest pebble]

Keycult is overpriced for what it is currently with other offers on the market

Still a nice keyboard though

[chrome raft]

It used to be really good

The mounting is very dated

[forest pebble]

Personally I'm into matrixlab boards

[forest pebble]

Top mount is dated and works kek

Mounting style doesn't need to be brand new or something

I pretty much don't care about link65 mount as an example

But it's nice that it exists

[chrome raft]

Wrong adjective then

It’s doodoo

[stoic tangle]

Top mount works great, lot of people like it in high end boards. I like gasket styles but I can acknowledge the benefits

[chrome raft]

Bottom mount is underrated

It’s like top mount

[stoic tangle]

I, you mean tray mount? That's the worst one lol

[chrome raft]

No I mean bottom mount

[boreal rivet]

bottom mount is top mount but reversed

[stoic tangle]

Oh hadn't heard of it yet

[boreal rivet]

because everything is gasket now

[chrome raft]

gasket is doodoo

[boreal rivet]

there used to be more variety

[stoic tangle]

I like gasket keyboards so I'm happy with the newer boards coming out, but I can see why people miss more variety

What's the benefit of bottom mount over top mount though?

[boreal rivet]

cant hate something when you havent really tried much else 🤷

[stoic tangle]

Not sure what you mean

Like I would stop liking gaskets if I had more different boards?

[boreal rivet]

there is a possibility yes

[stoic tangle]

I don't think so, I don't really want direct metal to metal (or I guess plastic) cause I prefer quieter sound, less stiff typing, and lower pitch. Gasket mounts meet my preferences best

[boreal rivet]

its easy to be objective when you haven't tried things

[forest pebble]

You can do isolated top mount also

But it's all gasket meme lately

Or leaf spring

Where are my stiff board bois

[boreal rivet]

its been gasket meme for the past like

4 years

leaf spring seems to be the next gasket

[stoic tangle]

I have a stiff board, not a fan compared to the gasket board

I'm glad people like stiff boards it's just not for me

[forest pebble]

I know one thing, flex cut PCB is stupid

If combined with leaf spring

And plateless 😁

[stoic tangle]

And hotswap 🧠

[boreal rivet]

anything thats made for extra flex is stupid tbh

[forest pebble]

I think using all tricks in the books for flex is dumb

Pick one

Stay with it

[stoic tangle]

Eh, I think that's a bit too limiting, if they want to experiment with combining techniques that's cool

[forest pebble]

Yeah true

[chrome raft]

I like the menhir prototype mounting a lot

[forest pebble]

That's why I'm thinking of making a board, no foam sandwich mount

Brass plate, maybe alu

[chrome raft]

I don’t like mods

Foam and band aids and what not

[stoic tangle]

Oh you want max stiff lol

[forest pebble]

I'll see where it goes

[chrome raft]

I like the authentic sound of my boards

[stoic tangle]

I like mods, helps people get closer to sound and feel they like without spending hundreds more on trying other boards

[forest pebble]

I think modding is good thing

But some mods are ??

Like holee mod and band aid mod to an extend, but I guess it's up to every one to like mushy

[stoic tangle]

Like silicone mod?

[forest pebble]

Could be a taste 😁

[untold orchid]

Heat shrink mod goated

[forest pebble]

Lubing your stabs properly mod goated 🫡

[untold orchid]

How about

Both

[forest pebble]

But it's hard to do it right i guess

Take stab, make it straight, lube it, works

[chrome raft]

Just lube for me

[forest pebble]

I haven't tried heat shrink mod though, might have a try, i have a sacrificial gmk screw in lying around

Cherry clip ins + C3 Wires combo for me

[untold orchid]

I just got some stab shrinks from keygem

It really works well

[forest pebble]

I have some heat shrink I'll try when I have time

[stoic tangle]

To the person that was wondering about the mystery sale, here is the page, it'll open on black friday https://cannonkeys.com/products/mystery-keycaps

[normal fiber]

Should I also buy lube

And if I do then which

[shy barn]

Just got some key caps

[stoic tangle]

Depending on the switch and your standards you may not need to

[normal fiber]

milky yellow and medium to high

[empty gorge]

Best keyboard no price cap

[normal fiber]

custom

[empty gorge]

Ah

[normal fiber]

do some research and find the parts you like the most

[empty gorge]

Ok

[stoic tangle]

Let us know if you want help with figuring it out

[stoic tangle]

I'd say maybe build it first and if you aren't happy with the sound or it feels scratchy lube them

Kryotox 205g0 specifically

[open crow]

[pastel drift]

pro keyboard

i m still trying to find which one i should get ngl

[twilit flare]

You should get the Razer huntsman mini!

[pastel drift]

should i get plastic or aluminum

[twilit flare]

Joke)

[twilit flare]

Wdym

[pastel drift]

which case should i get

[twilit flare]

Aluminum then

Where's the cool guys

Obama and gastrail

[pastel drift]

fr

selix is here

nvm

oh yea

[twilit flare]

Who's that

[stoic tangle]

Hello!

[pastel drift]

idk

ello

[twilit flare]

Wsp son

[stoic tangle]

I wouldn't simplify it to Alu or plastic, some alu boards are worse than some plastic boards

[twilit flare]

But which one is good

[pastel drift]

dang

[stoic tangle]

Which ones are you thinking

In General, alu is better and costs more accordingly

[pastel drift]

i kinda want a ali keyboard

alu

ez

[twilit flare]

Ali baba keyboard

https://tenor.com/view/jack-ma-make-sense-nod-agree-alibaba-gif-11537987

[stoic tangle]

But yeah it's not a hard rule, some alu boards suck

[twilit flare]

Some of everything sucks

[pastel drift]

i forgot which one someone recommended me

[twilit flare]

Drooling rn

[stoic tangle]

Was it the keychron Q series?

[twilit flare]

I'm not a fan of banana that much but that's a must to try

[pastel drift]

bana splits!

those are hot

damm

idk what you're saying

ngl

[twilit flare]

Switches can be hot

Like hot as in demand

And looks

Yeahh

I need them

But yellow milky is a must for me

[stoic tangle]

There are mechanical switches called banana splits

[twilit flare]

Why are they named that

Long name for switches

Not even an easy to remember name

[stoic tangle]

They kinda look like it

[twilit flare]

What does bakenako mean

Brutal60

[pastel drift]

yes

[twilit flare]

Sounds scary

[pastel drift]

isn't that what he was talking about?

[stoic tangle]

Oh bakeneko, i know neko is a cat

[twilit flare]

He's not dumb bruh

Treat my son with respect fr

Thanks for trying to help him though

[stoic tangle]

Oh thought he said he didn't know what they were referring to

[twilit flare]

He didn't know he was talking about the food

But I'd eat the switch and the food ngl

[stoic tangle]

Gobble em up like cheerios

[twilit flare]

For real

Where's obamus though

Literally the goat

He probably knows the best out of keyboards in the server

I gotta check out alpacas

[pastel drift]

i won squid game

[twilit flare]

I wish I could try out every switch at once

In one store

I FEEL YOU

[twilit flare]

Cap

[pastel drift]

no cap

i got 7,360 money

i wish

if only i wasn't poor

[twilit flare]

Don't listen to him he has more than enough money for a keyboard @chrome raft

[pastel drift]

cap

[twilit flare]

Lubed foam and tape 🥵

WAIT WHAT

Oh yeah you can legitimately lube membrane keyboards too

I might do that

Yooo

Okay thank god

I kinda wanna fix up a old cheap keyboard for fun too

See how it sounds beforr and after

Phil knows how to fix

It sucks how you get banned for simply getting disconnected but it makes sense ig

You're brave for playing comp

[pastel drift]

i need to buy so much stuff for my setup

[twilit flare]

Like what besides keyboard

[pastel drift]

i need headphones, keycaps, microphone stand

[twilit flare]

Damn 4k tho

WHAT ARE U

HUH

How is 4000 fps not good are you being srs

Oh u can't change it?

Downscale it or something

Bruh

Trash monitor

It doesn't but since you play comp yeah

Wealth

[pulsar folio]

That feeling when you buy a premade keyboard just to steal its keycaps

am I in the wrong channel? why is there monitor talk? 😮

[twilit flare]

Wait why

Were the keycaps not sold separately

[pulsar folio]

Yeah, indeed

All white keycaps I could find either looked crap, or was extremely expensive

like €200 expensive lol

oh, or they are only ANSI

[stoic tangle]

Like blank keycaps?

[twilit flare]

Jesus

[pulsar folio]

doesn't help with blank if they are ANSI though

[twilit flare]

I mean I'm sure you could just paint them with 5 dollar paint materials

[pulsar folio]

ahh, LG has some very nice ones, Odyssey G7 is pretty decent too - if you need high refresh rate panels that is

[pulsar folio]

that's an insane amount of work, and would look like shit if I did it

the keyboard I bought costed like €40 😂

ah, I just tried selling my 2x 4k60hz monitors, one of them was failing on arrival, so I ended up taking them both back lol

[twilit flare]

Lol

[pulsar folio]

hell no

[twilit flare]

💀

[pulsar folio]

what screen size are they?

27"?

yeah, no thanks, too small for 4K

[twilit flare]

:(

Money

That's it

[pulsar folio]

Working?

[twilit flare]

Fr

[pulsar folio]

I just bought another Keychron Q3 to have at work 😮

[twilit flare]

1440p 144

[pulsar folio]

1440 240hz

[twilit flare]

1440 240hz I mean

Auto correct

Don't listen to me nozemi knows lol

Rip

[pulsar folio]

well, I was semi-joking 😛

[twilit flare]

70p 60hz final answer

[pulsar folio]

what monitor you get depends on your use case and budget