#peripherals
twilit flare
Ohhhh
pastel drift
Overpriced
glossy sandal
?
twilit flare
What's up?
glossy sandal
you can do that exact build
pastel drift
Oooo tofu
twilit flare
Wdym
pastel drift
I wanted to get one
pastel drift
Too bad
twilit flare
Lol
pastel drift
Noob
twilit flare
Tofu case?
pastel drift
Ye
twilit flare
Just lube some milky yellows
I might
twilit flare
I'll see how the keyboard would sound like
glossy sandal
thatās the case you should get 
pastel drift
What case?
pastel drift
Damm
glossy sandal
since you like the tofu
pastel drift
I donāt
twilit flare
Bruh
glossy sandal
glossy sandal
I like the tofu case but it feels like shit
pastel drift
Same with a pc
twilit flare
pastel drift
What case should I get then
twilit flare
That one
pastel drift
Real
twilit flare
You don't need a case for pro
glossy sandal
What case should I get then
GAF 910
twilit flare
Wdym fake lol
glossy sandal
you mean clones?
twilit flare
Oh
pastel drift
From Ali express
pastel drift
I never know where to buy them
twilit flare
Ngl bro I wanna make that keyboard cardboard doesn't sound so bad
glossy sandal
If theyāre talking about the clones
pastel drift
Canāt find
glossy sandal
Those are clones of drop astrolokeys
glossy sandal
what board
pastel drift
The one you said
glossy sandal
oh the GAF 910
pastel drift
Ye
glossy sandal
You canāt find it
pastel drift
Whatās that?
glossy sandal
thousands?
pastel drift
iirc
glossy sandal
if I remember correctly
twilit flare
Smh phil
pastel drift
Idk how much I would spend for a keyboard
twilit flare
This man tryna help you :(
twilit flare
Yeah 150 sounds good if you're making one
pastel drift
W Nossta
glossy sandal
I wouldnāt go that low for a custom
glossy sandal
maybe around 250~ for a custom
twilit flare
Yeah 150 is bad budget
glossy sandal
gives a lot of breathing room
pastel drift
Hot
twilit flare
Suffocating
glossy sandal
you could make one for less but it kinda becomes limited under 200$
glossy sandal
waht
pastel drift
For moneys
glossy sandal
so do you want to build a board or not
pastel drift
For some rupees
glossy sandal
I literally cannot tell
pastel drift
Yes
twilit flare
Gastrail should you worry about the pcbs or does it not really matter
pastel drift
Pcbs for plumbing
glossy sandal
You should
twilit flare
I thought they were all basically the same thing same task
glossy sandal
hotswap/solder, stab support, layout support, software support, etc etc
thereās a lot to it
twilit flare
Ohh
pastel drift
Iām sorry
twilit flare
Dw I won't hurt you this time
glossy sandal
glossy sandal
I guess you could say that
twilit flare
Damn
twilit flare
No
pastel drift
Pro case
twilit flare
U don't need a case honestly
pastel drift
True
glossy sandal
Case is probably the most important sound wise
pastel drift
Exactly
glossy sandal
but actually functionally the pcb is the most important thing (unless youāre handwiring or something)
twilit flare
Hand wiring looks difficult as heck
pastel drift
60 switches
twilit flare
Lol
pastel drift
Got some more 65% keyboard to recommend?
twilit flare
One slip up and it's over
glossy sandal
idk
pastel drift
Wait whatās cheaper? 65 or tkl?
glossy sandal
got a budget?
twilit flare
It varies
glossy sandal
where are you based
pastel drift
What about you Nossta
twilit flare
China
pastel drift
where are you based
American
glossy sandal
not you nossta
pastel drift
L Nossta
twilit flare
What about you Nossta
Ur budget is like double mine š
pastel drift
Common L Nossta
twilit flare
I was answering for him he's lying
glossy sandal
sure
glossy sandal
guess you could say that about uhh
twilit flare
Lol
glossy sandal
Bongoneko
pastel drift
Bro 150
twilit flare
Lemme see what that even looks like
pastel drift
There goes all my money
twilit flare
U got $50 for everything else loll
pastel drift
I think I can make it work
pastel drift
Lol
glossy sandal
you could do less but you sacrifice more the lower you go
twilit flare
Keyboard gonna cost more than my gpu
twilit flare
you could do less but you sacrifice more the lower you go
Yup
twilit flare
Doesnāt take that long
Exactly
pastel drift
Gotta buy a 3D printer for 30x the price
pastel drift
Ong
glossy sandal
Mcdonals
pastel drift
Yes
glossy sandal
Awesome
pastel drift
Fr
pastel drift
Nah
boreal rivet
just use jlcpcb or something for 3d printing
twilit flare
What's the best keyboard mod for thocky
boreal rivet
Cement
elder forum
gilded sedge
Iām thinking of getting the gmmk2 but I wanna know your guys opinion on it and if I should or not
deft wadi
Why are extremely quiet optical or mechanical gaming keyboards so difficult to find? The Huntsman V2 seems to be the quietest keyboard I have been able to find especially since they pack foam into it which helps dampen the sound. Are there any of there keyboards with similar acoustics to the Huntsman V2 with Red Switches out there?
boreal rivet
get some silent reds and then dump cement in the case
stoic tangle
Not cement, but yeah your best chance are silent switches
deft wadi
I was looking for something stock out of the box.
stoic tangle
It's not what most people are looking for so not many people sell to it. I'm there with you I had to make my own
untold orchid
Why are extremely quiet optical or mechanical gaming keyboards so difficult to f...
Buy any board ever made, put in U4 bobas and its more silent than anything razer has ever created
stoic tangle
No, just, no
stoic tangle
Buy any board ever made, put in U4 bobas and its more silent than anything razer...
Preferably hot swap so you don't have to solder, and gazzews boba gums if you prefer linears
boreal rivet
dont forget the cement
gilded sedge
dont forget the cement
thonk
untold orchid
I'm tempted to cnc a case out of thick steel and make a board that weighs like 20kg
(my friend works at a shop that has a cnc capable of carving steel)
viscid tapir
what is some rest for wrist i could get for v3 in eu like cheap one all black and plastic
spice raptor
I am keybored of my keyboard
Im wondering, does anyone know of any clicky switches that have really short travel and pre travel?
preferably compatible with MX Keycaps
glossy sandal
idk
unkempt dome
kailh speed bronze
open crow
I am keybored of my keyboard
Im wondering, does anyone know of any clicky switc...
Why clickies?
stoic tangle
I mean technically low profile keyboards are as short travel as you can go
forest pebble
Yeah indeed, however sound like ass
So I guess cherry MX speed silver
Better compromise
stoic tangle
I think they've gotten better, but bad reputation at this point
forest pebble
Or kailh ones
I was going to say maybe he doesn't care about sound as much as I do so might not be relevant
forest pebble
I have a concrete case
Sounds like ass, well not that bad overall but quite hollow imo
But not the good kind of hollow
I guess it's because it's not alu or brass
twilit flare
Loo
boreal rivet
Nah you gotta pour it in a case not make one out of it š¤
twilit flare
Rookie mistake smh
stoic tangle
If you wanna look at cannonkeys keycaps they have bogo till tonight
pastel drift
Whatās that
glossy sandal
boreal rivet
Buy One Get One (free)
pastel drift
JOMKIZ Keycaps,132 Keys PBT Keycaps Set Constellation XDA Profile Dye Sublimation Customized US Layout Keycaps for with Cherry MX Switches Mechanical Keyboards https://a.co/d/dvx4F7w arenāt these like hundred dollars now
ionic briar
JOMKIZ Keycaps,132 Keys PBT Keycaps Set Constellation XDA Profile Dye Sublimatio...
Well, this is knockoff/clone caps
pastel drift
Damm
queen bough
is the rk61 a good gaming keyboard?
glossy sandal
Itāll do what you need it to
queen bough
Itāll do what you need it to
whats a better alternative? for under $100 cad?
queen bough
Do you care about the wirelessness of the rk61?
I ws planning on getting the wiredd one w/ red switches
glossy sandal
If you donāt care about wireless look into the keychron v4
Much better bang for buck board imo
queen bough
Much better bang for buck board imo
its $120 on amazon whereas rk61 is only $77. Is it worth the $50 diff?
glossy sandal
Iād say so
Though itās about 90$ on keychron direct
Itās a bit of a markup on Amazon
Wait itās 80$ on keychron direct, big markup on Amazon..
queen bough
Wait itās 80$ on keychron direct, big markup on Amazon..
link?
queen bough
thats usd tho
queen bough
yeah
glossy sandal
Oh you werenāt talking in usd
Yeah itās worth the 37$ (50$ cad) price increase
latent blaze
Wait itās 80$ on keychron direct, big markup on Amazon..
tbf keychron shipping is quite the markup compared to amazon lol
spice raptor
Why clickies?
i like clicky
glossy sandal
tbf keychron shipping is quite the markup compared to amazon lol
Itās 15$ for me
latent blaze
amazons free
forest pebble
Rookie mistake smh
Ahah sorri concrete too low end material for me to care, I just bought a concrete case on a whim because it was cheap (like 120ā¬) and had a dz60 lying around
harsh anvil
I just built a pc and i'm thinking of building a keyboard. Should I?
forest pebble
I just built a pc and i'm thinking of building a keyboard. Should I?
Yes
Consoom pls
harsh anvil
How do i get started
forest pebble
What size and layout you want
forest pebble
Depends if you get an hotswap or soldered board
Imo soldering isn't as scarry as it looks like.
Layout wise try to think what's the most important
Do you need physical arrows ? Function row ? Numpad
harsh anvil
not the numpad
harsh anvil
ill go do some research
forest pebble
But if you prefer a TKL I'd understand
harsh anvil
and come back later
forest pebble
Run away as fast as you can
You don't want him to join the sect of custom keebs were your collection is worth several time your pc build ? š
glossy sandal
Iām saving his financial dreams
granted, weāre better than #audio-tech but weāre still bad
forest pebble
Yeah I'm am still afraid of audio stuff
forest pebble
I don't know how much it goes on their side
forest pebble
For what youāre getting
Hmmm I dunno, as an example I'm satisfied with a simple hd6xx and someone could be satisfied with a keychron Q3
boreal rivet
An easy way to skip through most of audio is get a pair of main monitors + sub
forest pebble
And then you can pay extra for different stuff , doesn't mean it's useful for you
forest pebble
An easy way to skip through most of audio is get a pair of main monitors + sub
I see, personally I don't have speakers
boreal rivet
Hmmm I dunno, as an example I'm satisfied with a simple hd6xx and someone could ...
Iām talking more about rare stuff like OTD that sell for thousands
forest pebble
Take a keyboard like a Jane or Jane V2, it's more about what it represents than the keyboard quality itself, sure it's nice but not worth his price if you are looking keyboard wise
boreal rivet
It just represents a really nice keyboard for its time that was artificially limited
forest pebble
Brand new too
Yeah but it's not comparable, we are comparing to an object that was made during a certain period of time, limited quantity and started a movement in custom keeb
boreal rivet
OTD didnāt start shit
forest pebble
When I say start a movement
boreal rivet
People outside of Korea barely cared about them until recent years
forest pebble
I speak of integrating design elements
I was also speaking of Jane at the same timz
Personally otd aren't stuff I'm Interested in, if I can try a 356cl I'll try out of curiosity but other than that
boreal rivet
Thatās what so absurd, people are willing to pay thousands for a keyboard simply because it inspired many others after it even if subjectively itās average in current times
forest pebble
I mean some buy cars for that reason, watches etc
boreal rivet
I can buy a hd650, a vital part of high end headphone history brand new for 300usd brand new and it still competes in the current market
boreal rivet
Iām not judging by rarity or collectibility btw
I judge solely on usability and most of these hyper rare keyboards are simply average in the current market
These prices are just a product of unhinged flipping going on for close to a decade now and have pretty much no correlation to the productās rarity or historical significance outside of the flippers using it to justify their prices
And because itās been this way for so long, newcomers think itās fucking fine to pay 3k for a goddamned keyboard
Significant or not
boreal rivet
Sure but it's a mass-produced product by a company
Letās take the LCD-R for example then, relatively low volume, less than 500 iirc
forest pebble
Well it's supply and demand, you have a low count of unit and quite some age, most who already got one don't want to sell or sell in private
I guess lcd-r no one wants it ?
boreal rivet
Despite being a fairly novel design that sounds great every time I see one come up for sale, itās usually around msrp, why? Because flipping in audio is extremely frowned upon, in no world would you see a limited headphone go for over 300% itās msrp
forest pebble
I mean no one's force you to buy an otd š, there are plenty very good cheaper board
boreal rivet
There is simply no justification for janes or OTD to cost the way they do
The people who think otherwise have literally just been brainwashed into thinking so
forest pebble
I don't see the point, it's a rare old custom keeb, they cost that much because of demand
Personally I won't buy a Jane or an OTD, but I get why you would for your collection
boreal rivet
I mean no one's force you to buy an otd š, there are plenty very good cheaper b...
Thatās not really the point but yeah obviously
Thatās also the same mentality that got such boards to the current price theyāre at
The keyboard community simply condones flipping by not acting on it
forest pebble
Well you just don't buy it and it's fair
Personally I just buy aftermarket in some servers
deep pivot
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v4-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?var...
Thats a banger
forest pebble
V4 is a nice cheap mech board indeed
twilit flare
Yeah v4 looks sexy
twilit flare
TKL or 40%
40%????
twilit flare
40% > 60 65
No.
chrome raft
So stop coping and go all in and learn to use layers
TKL is iconic and the best for typing
40% is best for gaming and general use
chrome raft
Donāt get 100% except if your job doesnāt request a numpad
twilit flare
But very expensive
chrome raft
Not necessarily
twilit flare
I'm just getting the v4
chrome raft
Group buys are expensive but keychron is a good alternative
twilit flare
What's ks3
chrome raft
Milky yellow pros
twilit flare
Oh hell yeah
I was looking at milky yellows I was just about to say
What size is the v3
chrome raft
Tkl
twilit flare
Hm
chrome raft
But if you like 60 the v4 is good too
You can use those bottom right 4 keys as arrow keys
twilit flare
Yeah
chrome raft
If you donāt use right Ctrl or alt
twilit flare
Idk if I really use arrow keys but I'll see
chrome raft
By holding down caps lock you can use the number keys as function keys
Thatās my preferred 60% layout
chrome raft
I mean you canāt
twilit flare
What
chrome raft
But with QMK you can
twilit flare
Oh
chrome raft
Like itās not by default lol
You canāt use the bottom right as arrow keys by default
Iām just saying for 60% you can configure them as arrow keys and configure caps lock to start a new layer with function keys
Makes the 60% format more viable
twilit flare
Is it easy to switch the layout back and forth
chrome raft
Yeah just press a key
chrome raft
Itāll be like holding down shift
To have a CAPITAL letter
But itāll be caps lock and like the number 4
twilit flare
Well I'll see if I'll get the v4 or maybe I'll go keyboard shopping first in person
Because y'know you can actually feel the keyboard first
chrome raft
Keyboards like Logitech and what not usually have tray mounting
I donāt think you can feel good quality keyboards, only mainstream stuff
Itās not like thereās a keychron on display at best buy
The V series by keychron also uses tray mounting which doesnāt really have any give or bounce or anything
twilit flare
Logitech is cool too right
chrome raft
Yeah if youāre into that itās alright
twilit flare
Some dude was defending Razer hard for some reason
As if they were the best gaming company
I mean I have Razer products myself but that's because they were cheap at the time
chrome raft
Eh I like the idea of having all your peripherals from a certain brand
So like if you have a razer mouse and headset Iād understand getting one of their keyboards
Theyāre not bad per say; theyāre still mechanical after all
But for the price? Unacceptable compared to custom builds
However custom builds are still expensive like I paid more for lube than most people pay for their office keyboard
My stabz cost more than my first mechanical keyboard lol
The one my mom got me from Amazon for Roblox
pastel drift
W
stoic tangle
TKL or 40%
Nope, complete disagree, 75% > tkl. Barely anyone uses those extra keys and you can reprogram function keys to them if you need to. Efficiency
chrome raft
Nope, complete disagree, 75% > tkl. Barely anyone uses those extra keys and you ...
Maybe so, but the TKL is so much more iconic and beautiful. The 75% looks like a fat 65%, a base 911 with 40k worth of options. The TKL is so much more versatile, you can easily add an entire numpad with those keys you donāt use on the top right and only for 5% more.
stoic tangle
I, a numpad with that cluster? How? Why?
chrome raft
I mean what looks better?
stoic tangle
I don't like blocky 75s to be fair
chrome raft
The exploded is just a TKL cope
Same size at that point
Just get a TKL and be a TKL GMK supremacist
stoic tangle
That looks clean and I will hear nothing else š¤
Doesnt have a block of wasted space on the side
chrome raft
That looks clean and I will hear nothing else š¤
TKL is objectively the best and more versatile
I like 40% because I hate myself
pastel drift
Tkl is hot ngl
twilit flare
My stabz cost more than my first mechanical keyboard lol
Jesus lol
The most I'm doing is MAYBE lubing switches
pastel drift
And the other one was good
chrome raft
I was doing a budget build based on a 45$ base kit and I ended up spending 250 Canadian dollars
stoic tangle
I mean i Like tkl, getting a zoom TKL actually. But 75 will always have my heart
twilit flare
And foam mods š¤¤
pastel drift
Which one was it jev?
twilit flare
I was doing a budget build based on a 45$ base kit and I ended up spending 250 C...
LMAO
pastel drift
65 I think
chrome raft
Ok so look the 45 kit was hole though so I ended up needing help which cost me 20$ assembly and 20$ shipping
Then lube, stabz and switches all cost 30$ cad each shipped
twilit flare
Holes in the pcb?
chrome raft
And then 10$ for tools and films
chrome raft
250cad for a budget keyboard -_-
twilit flare
No way
pastel drift
Gold edition
chrome raft
Nah bro the belle delphin keyboard is the goat
pastel drift
Dolphin
twilit flare
250cad for a budget keyboard -_-
I'd say concert to usd but that's still high
"convert
chrome raft
Well I didnāt technically overspend
chrome raft
I did spend about 10$ useless in shipping coz I bought everything separately
pastel drift
I bought cat keyboard
twilit flare
Sell it
pastel drift
Bet
chrome raft
However I do have some lube and tools left for my next builds
twilit flare
However I do have some lube and tools left for my next builds
Oh you build keyboards regularly?
chrome raft
pastel drift
I wasted my 180 on the microphone
chrome raft
Objectively the best keyboard
twilit flare
YOOOO LOL
twilit flare
I'ma end up spending more than my gpu if I ever build custom keyboard
pastel drift
So what?
stoic tangle
I'ma end up spending more than my gpu if I ever build custom keyboard
Than your whole PC*
stoic tangle
This is a dangerous rabbit hole
pastel drift
Ong
pastel drift
Dang
chrome raft
Idk why but Iām pissed about my custom build
chrome raft
Like how can I spend 250$ and it kinda makes sense
pastel drift
Bro just make a roblox game and get popular then get rich then dev x it
twilit flare
Roblox hearto
chrome raft
Ah well I guess i still have the tools and lube left for my endgame final build
twilit flare
Final mouse too
chrome raft
Im waiting for an update on the GPX
pastel drift
Ooo final mouse
twilit flare
Oooh
pastel drift
I wanted one
chrome raft
They better have USBC next gen
twilit flare
Im waiting for an update on the GPX
Ok what
pastel drift
So expensive though
twilit flare
*on what
chrome raft
G pro super light x
chrome raft
Final mouse has bad build quality
twilit flare
Logitech is better in mice than keyboards
stoic tangle
Why do people buy final mouse btw
twilit flare
The hype
chrome raft
Flex
twilit flare
The hype idk about flex
twilit flare
TRUE
I remember him saying that
Okay well what I learned is never build a keyboard or you'll go in debt
But tiny mods like foam and lubing are okay
stoic tangle
If you're strong enough buy one and erase any trace of it from your internet so you don't get tempted for more
chrome raft
Yeah just mod your current keyboard
twilit flare
If you're strong enough buy one and erase any trace of it from your internet so ...
But the videos will definitely temp me for more so I'll have to leave YouTube
It's an addiction I was up 3 hours one night looking at keyboard videos
pastel drift
Same
twilit flare
Belle Delphine keyboard
pastel drift
Lol
chrome raft
Iām still looking for my endgame keyboard
twilit flare
stoic tangle
Iām still looking for my endgame keyboard
Don't, endgame is a lie
twilit flare
Iām still looking for my endgame keyboard
Gmk! Jkjk
stoic tangle
A neverending dream
twilit flare
There's no such thing
chrome raft
I think I wanna go with a classy top mounted TKL with a GMK set and heavily modified cherry blacks
twilit flare
I lost my school id bro @pastel drift
pastel drift
Damm
twilit flare
I can't use fast lane no more š¢
pastel drift
Imagine
twilit flare
Theres 2 lines one for id and no id
stoic tangle
Gmk seems overrated these days, crazy expensive, abs, manufacturing problems, long wait times
twilit flare
It is but maybe for beginners?
chrome raft
Yeah but itās the gold standard and worth the wait on special builds
twilit flare
Later though guys I gtg
pastel drift
Cya
stoic tangle
Yeah but itās the gold standard and worth the wait on special builds
If they're the only ones with the color scheme you want sure, but other companies have surpassed them at better prices like NK and cannonkeys
chrome raft
Nothing beats GMKās ABS processing at quality tho
Theyāre so smooth and have perfect lettering
stoic tangle
Maybe some years ago but not anymore, like the two I said. And dye sub pbt is a better compromise, less high pitch, won't shine instantly, great longevity
chrome raft
Clack >
twilit flare
Maybe I could tyedye a keyboard case
stoic tangle
How so?
twilit flare
I have no idea how they do it but ik it'll be some blueish color
A purple ish hue maybe
If I get my keyboard I'll be sure to send a clip of it here
Depending if I mod it
pastel drift
imagine
frosty adder
Does anyone know of a nice mechanical numpad with arrowkeys? Got myself a nice 60% board that I love to death but I'm missing arrow keys for coding
novel timber
Does anyone have recommendations for types of foam to put between the pcb and plate? I was thinking of poron, PE or dimple foam.
pastel drift
@twilit flare can help you
pastel drift
Does anyone have recommendations for types of foam to put between the pcb and pl...
^
twilit flare
I CANT
pastel drift
Yes
twilit flare
Does anyone have recommendations for types of foam to put between the pcb and pl...
Maybe PE foam but that might be too staticy I have no idea
stoic tangle
Does anyone know of a nice mechanical numpad with arrowkeys? Got myself a nice 6...
I don't think any have built arrow keys written into them already but maybe you can get one that support qmk to reprogram it?
chrome raft
Does anyone have recommendations for types of foam to put between the pcb and pl...
yeah, none
twilit flare
Idk why I said static I don't think foam does attract static
frosty adder
I don't think any have built arrow keys written into them already but maybe you ...
There is the Scorpius 32 which is being sold as new old stock for $120 and the Teenii which is a clone going for 40, but they look alittle bulky and cheap to me
frosty adder
I don't think any have built arrow keys written into them already but maybe you ...
That is a good suggestion
chrome raft
Does anyone know of a nice mechanical numpad with arrowkeys? Got myself a nice 6...
Reprogram your bottom right 4 keys (alt, ctrl, fn, fn2) to arrow keys
forest pebble
Allow me to introduce chonky 65
chrome raft
Allow me to introduce chonky 65
forest pebble
I dunno how wide It is
chrome raft
I dunno how wide It is
forest pebble
So quite wide š
Matrix IM+ meta (75%)
Class65 (65%)
Matrix 2.0add Xmas (TKL)
chrome raft
Whatās the one at the bottom?
chrome raft
Oops
chrome raft
Looks nice
My next build will be in December and itāll be a 40%
Hopefully will update you when itās done
forest pebble
Oh which one
chrome raft
Alish40
forest pebble
Oh it's a kit that you have to solder diodes and stuff, very nice have fun with that
forest pebble
Oh I see
chrome raft
Iām not a big soldering guy so i didnāt wanna mess with it
forest pebble
That would have been the occasion to raise the skills š
But you got it millmaxed or you will solder switches then
novel timber
yeah, none
Why none?
forest pebble
Does anyone have recommendations for types of foam to put between the pcb and pl...
Depends on what you are looking for and what case you have
So also the mount
novel timber
So also the mount
I don't know how to explain it but it mounted by little plastic standoffs that are screwed from the top go into the board
forest pebble
As an enthusiast I'd say no foam is better but you need good cases for that. As a mod for a cheaper board, depends on what do you like
Dampening noise or making it more poppy
I'd say poron dampens more than pe
And pe makes that marbly sound
What keeb is it ?
novel timber
Keychron k8
It has an aluminum plate
And I've installed unlubed boba u4ts and light case foam
forest pebble
Yeah, so you want to add plate foam and or PCB foam ?
Lubing boba u4t springs will reduce the unnecessary spring ping noise
novel timber
Yeah, so you want to add plate foam and or PCB foam ?
I thought those were the same thing
forest pebble
I'd recommend bag lubing the spring with 105
novel timber
Lubing boba u4t springs will reduce the unnecessary spring ping noise
I'm planning on doing that just waiting for some time off
I thought the foam went between the pcb and plate?
forest pebble
Maybe don't touch the stem as lubing tactile stems is not the easiest for beginners
forest pebble
I thought the foam went between the pcb and plate?
You can indeed, at first I thought you were mentioning the PE foam sheet mod
It's a very thin layer of PE foam (or poron) where it's sandwiched by switches and PCB
novel timber
Maybe don't touch the stem as lubing tactile stems is not the easiest for beginn...
I've already experiment and lubed extra u4s. I've light lubed the railed light lube spring bottom and spring housing. And I've managed to keep the tactiltiy while maintaining a consistent sound
forest pebble
Yeah rail only and you should be good
novel timber
You can indeed, at first I thought you were mentioning the PE foam sheet mod
Oh no just something between the pcb and plate
forest pebble
You'll have to cut a 1.5mm ish foam I guess
novel timber
I was thinking this
forest pebble
And make holes
novel timber
RunJRX Poron Keyboard PCB Foam 87 Layout,Poron Switch Pads 120Pcs and Keyboard Sound Dampeners for Custom Keyboard, Black, RJ-091 https://a.co/d/8rZ2N6P
Although idk if the price is justifiable
forest pebble
I see
Well if you don't want to bother cutting yourself it's understandable š
You might have to adapt and pierce some holes and etc
novel timber
You might have to adapt and pierce some holes and etc
Mhm but I wont mind doing that
forest pebble
Yeee
novel timber
Would you say that type of foam would work?
forest pebble
The switch cutouts is the annoying part
novel timber
Yea very tedious
forest pebble
Poron for silencing yes
novel timber
And pe for a more thocky marbly sound?
forest pebble
Well PE sheet on pcb
I'm not sure pe pads are worth your time, but if you have thin PE foam sheets (from packaging stuff) around
novel timber
Well PE sheet on pcb
What would you recommend for a more I guess more of a thock.
forest pebble
Cut one, PCB size, tape it on sides and put switches to make holes in it
novel timber
Cut one, PCB size, tape it on sides and put switches to make holes in it
Of the pe correct?
forest pebble
Yee PE foam would work for what you are looking for
stoic tangle
As an enthusiast I'd say no foam is better but you need good cases for that. As ...
As an enthusiast I disagree, a keyboard is premium if it doesnt NEED foam but that doesn't mean no foam is better
novel timber
Yee PE foam would work for what you are looking for
Alright great. Also is pe foam conductive? I don't wanna shock my pcb lol
stoic tangle
Nah people use it all the time in mods
novel timber
Great. Thank you so much
forest pebble
As an enthusiast I disagree, a keyboard is premium if it doesnt NEED foam but th...
I am not saying that it's not premium with foam š
novel timber
Thank you to you as well @forest pebble
forest pebble
I'd say, it's better without but it's opinionated, preference
Plus if a design works well without foam
You can add what you want according to your liking
I didn't develop much my reasoning since I was focused on helping him š
stoic tangle
Yeah, it's great when you can do nothing and still have good sound, my preference is still foam though but neither objective
forest pebble
My point still is that ultimately you need a good case design to work without foam to begin with, foam helps you hiding some flaws
novel timber
Sorry last question is dimple foam the same thing as PE foam?
forest pebble
Is dimple foam Polyurethane foam ?
If yes I have no experience in using it, it's different
It's non conductive
(electrically )
novel timber
Got it thanks
wind radish
So is this channel for people doing like keyboard kits or does it include suggestions for purchases of already made stuff?
stoic tangle
Both, though I generally encourage building, like pc building
What are you looking for though?
Preferred layout?
wind radish
Hehe I'm not really into building my own keyboard quite yet... and I like a full sized one, probably mechanical. Would be nice if I could do individual RGB but I think a backlight would be ideal for working in the evening so I don't need to put the room light on š
stoic tangle
I would suggest considering losing the numpad, most don't really use it, can save you money, and desk space
What's your budget though?
wind radish
Well I know some of the better ones go for like $200.... but less is also better and I won't entirely shy away from building your own stuff just I've never really soldered anything or whatever before but I'm willing to learn hehe
stoic tangle
Oh premium board are in the thousands lol, but yeah you can get metal keebs around 200
And the hobby has gotten much easier, there's hotswap boards that don't require soldering at all, you just take our and plop in switches and it works
For easy to get value, keychron tends to be default, here's their budget 100% https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40320324960345
wind radish
Cool I guess that's better too because if say your S key breaks you just get a new S key instead of a whole new keyboard
stoic tangle
Well you could desolder and solder in a new switch on other boards but yeah hotswap is much less of a hassle
wind radish
Yeah desoldering from what I've seen can be a huge mess
stoic tangle
There's also 1800, which is more compact while keeping numpad https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v5-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard
stoic tangle
Yeah desoldering from what I've seen can be a huge mess
It can be fun, a project essentially if you like trying new things but I will almost always avoid it when possible lol
Oh they have their metal version at 200 if you want a more premium material https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39990022963289
wind radish
Cool Though I think that v5 one looks a little... off.. just the way the number pad and arrow keys are mushed together
stoic tangle
That's fair, I'm more used to boards smaller than both ha
wind radish
Yeah well I grew up with full size keyboards hehe... small keyboards are for laptops
stoic tangle
I grew up with full size too, still have a g910 somewhere, but when I tried smaller I couldn't go back
wind radish
The tenkeyless ones might be doable... I got one of those one handed gaming keyboards hehe
stoic tangle
The tenkeyless ones might be doable... I got one of those one handed gaming keyb...
Been meaning to try one those
wind radish
I bought a cheapo one Reddragon brand for like $30 to try it out š
forest pebble
For 200 I'd say the Q3 with reds had some clack, I'd advise force breakmod on it, not sure if tape mod is necessary
Changing the case foam might not contribute much for your needs
worn storm
How is the latency on keychron boards these days?
stoic tangle
I bought a cheapo one Reddragon brand for like $30 to try it out š
I don't think those are hot swap if you want to upgrade it though
stoic tangle
How is the latency on keychron boards these days?
Anything wired is too little latency for humans to notice
If you mean wireless, 2.4ghz keyboards are essentially as good as cabled, bluetooth not as good though
worn storm
Yea, BT aint great. That said you can definetly notice questionable debounce, IIRC glorious had that issue with the first GMMK Pro firmware.
Was just curious if there were any measurements out there, enthusiast keyboard reviews usually focus on non-performance stuff unless its egregious.
stoic tangle
Cause like I said, unless there's something glaringly off like that defect, anything coiled and latency are not concerns. No keyboard will really "perform" better unlike a mouse where accuracy and higher poll rates can kinda matter
wind radish
Probably not but I wouldnt expect it from a discount made in china brand hehe.
deep orbit
Anyone here to help me out
I am having some trouble with my stabs
And I can't figure out what the issue is
The space bar is sticky but idk why even when I have it open Infront of it
vague torrent
Hey guys, my current keyboard stopped working and I'm looking for a new one, not sure what to get tho, the last time I bought one was like 7 years ago, so I don't really know what's out currently, any recommendations?
stoic tangle
Well, what layout would you prefer? And what's your budget?
stoic tangle
The space bar is sticky but idk why even when I have it open Infront of it
I'm not sure what you mean by open in front of it
vague torrent
Well, what layout would you prefer? And what's your budget?
Size wise, something like what ive got already, so full size and for budget, about Ā£150 or under.
stoic tangle
I'd recommend considering a keyboard without numpad, costs less/lets you get better board, saves desk space too and they're rarely used. Do you just want a prebuilt or want to do custom?
vague torrent
I'd recommend considering a keyboard without numpad, costs less/lets you get bet...
prebuilt. I sort of agree about the numpad but im just so used to it at this point that i kinda want one..
stoic tangle
Well the budget go tos are keychron so this should fit that https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40320324960345
Black friday is soon too so maybe they'll have a price drop
vague torrent
I also shud have mention that I'd like it to be quiet, tbf tho, most keyboards are quieter than what I have currently.
stoic tangle
Prebuilts don't tend to do quiet unfortunately, though doing linear/tactile will be much better than clickies
If you want most quiet though you can custom build with silent switches, like gazzew boba gums or u4s
vague torrent
I see, thx for that I'll have a look around and see what's what
stoic tangle
Sure, let me know if you want help with picking custom parts, but research/videos helps
forest pebble
Bakeneko is nice (at least the 60% one is cool )
open crow
normal fiber
cant decide, which one should i get?
https://na.wooting.store/products/wooting-two-he-full-size-analog-keyboard
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=39888143810649
https://www.qwertykeys.com/collections/qk75?variant=43464537473267
https://nuphy.com/products/air75?variant=39572201635949
big embed moment
stoic tangle
If you have the patience and money, qk75
chrome raft
@vague torrent I know you said full size but Iād recommend TKL
If youāre in the USA keychron has some suppliers with free shipping
glossy sandal
i could probs do half a year at most
10-12 weeks
chrome raft
You could get a barebones V3 and some switches and keycaps from the same supplier
Itāll be like building lego
normal fiber
10-12 weeks
3 months not bad
normal fiber
im still new but heard some parts like keycaps can go up to a year
normal fiber
im still new so im going for interesting keyboards
as im not fucking up my first impressions to mech
chrome raft
@vague torrent you could even add a cheap custom aviator cable since keychron sells those for like 15$
normal fiber
typing this from a membrane logitech
normal fiber
jabberwocky <:Smirking:1015190851284111400>
now that looks like a learning curve if ive ever seen one
a steep one
normal fiber
my mind refuses to learn new things for some reason
chrome raft
You donāt have to learn anything new
gaunt carbon
does anyone know whats the best coiled usb c cable for keyboard
chrome raft
Itās just an Alice layout
chrome raft
does anyone know whats the best coiled usb c cable for keyboard
Custom one
I like Mochi cables
If youāre looking for a cheap mainstream one theyāre all bad
But at least keychronās is cheap
Glorious is even more mainstream but itās pretty expensive
Could get a custom one at that price
glossy sandal
does anyone know whats the best coiled usb c cable for keyboard
They all do the same thing
Only difference is cosmetic
gaunt carbon
Is gunmjo pro good?
chrome raft
I donāt even know what that is
gaunt carbon
šš
glossy sandal
I mean, itās a cable
gaunt carbon
Ok ill get a mochi
glossy sandal
Itāll do what a cable needs to do.
gaunt carbon
Ik i just want the best prolly overthinking it
glossy sandal
DogeMods are pretty cool
And they have awesome customer service, guy is really down to earth
chrome raft
You can contact him on instagram if you have any questions
Anyways if thereās a Black Friday sale Iām thinking of picking one up
gaunt carbon
Thx for your help @chrome raft @glossy sandal
chrome raft
Just think it over first
You could get a better keyboard for that money
Depends if you have or havenāt built it yet of course
gaunt carbon
I just have a huntsman mini
chrome raft
ohhh
Yeah then modding is the best option
Cable, maybe some lube or foam and you basically have a brand new keyboard
Except if itās not hotswap
So just cable and maybe new keycaps if you want
When the old ones wear down and you want a custom touch
hehehe dog
glossy sandal
Itās just an Alice layout
Southpaw Alice layout 
chrome raft
Wait those skeletons are from the beserk anime?
glossy sandal
gaunt carbon
Cablemod pretty cheap and looks good
And whats the difference between usb type c and micro usb is one better than the other?
pastel drift
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0015/9268/8699/products/base.138_1200x.png?v=1...
Looks like toby fox dog
chrome raft
And whats the difference between usb type c and micro usb is one better than the...
Get usb C
Not only does the razer huntsman mini run on USB C so you donāt really have an option but its 200000x betterthan micro b
chrome raft
You should always follow the rule of cool
Get the smallest keyboard and the biggest aviator cable
I think Jesus said so
normal fiber
Get the smallest keyboard and the biggest aviator cable
the single key keyboard
vague torrent
Thx man ill check it out, appreciate it!
chrome raft
the single key keyboard
Truly the biggest gigachad move
spice raptor
the single key keyboard
Zero Key Keyboard
deep orbit
I'm not sure what you mean by open in front of it
I opened my keyboard up cause I thought I would be able to tell what's causing my spacebar to be sticky,but I can't figure it out...
It's a plate mounted one
twilit flare
Zero Key Keyboard
Actually cracked
twilit flare
I opened my keyboard up cause I thought I would be able to tell what's causing m...
Did you check the spacebar stabs
deep orbit
I don't see anything wrong with it
twilit flare
Hm
deep orbit
Where can I send pics?
deep orbit
Ahhh,I'll give it a try
@twilit flare
When I press the key,it just gets stuck all the way
twilit flare
It might be the switch itself idk
pastel drift
lol
twilit flare
Phil
pastel drift
ello
twilit flare
Help him
twilit flare
His spacebar broke
pastel drift
how?
deep orbit
I sent some pics above,it gets stuck all the way in
And I have to physically pull it back up
pastel drift
maybe it's your stabs
pastel drift
try that
untold orchid
If the stab wire is even slightly bent it will be sticky af
twilit flare
Fr
pastel drift
i beat the top 10 guy in the second race
twilit flare
i beat the top 10 guy in the second race
W keyboard
untold orchid
Take the thing apart and put the wire on some real flat surface
twilit flare
What's his name do you remember
twilit flare
Take the thing apart and put the wire on some real flat surface
What wire
Or do just mean the rod
untold orchid
The stab wire, its not a rod lmao
pastel drift
i can shadow play
twilit flare
I'll need a diagram
pastel drift
he had a pizza car though
twilit flare
he had a pizza car though
Oh like the Pixar truck
deep orbit
pastel drift
no like it's an actual pizza car
twilit flare
Bandaid mod time
pastel drift
take off the metal piece and put it back on
boreal rivet
Bruh ive been calling it a rod lol
botįø£ names are correct in their own way
twilit flare
botįø£ names are correct in their own way
Thanks man
twilit flare
botįø£ names are correct in their own way
@untold orchid
untold orchid
take off the metal piece and put it back on
Take it off, lay it on a flat surface to see if its 100% straight, then put it back in
pastel drift
ong
twilit flare
Write this down deviant
pastel drift
all i can do for now is watch youtube and play some nitrotype
twilit flare
all i can do for now is watch youtube and play some nitrotype
Fun
I get like 1mil a day lmk if you need cash
pastel drift
im already at a mil
twilit flare
https://tenor.com/view/futurama-bender-bend-doblador-gif-20053760
It's bent?
twilit flare
im already at a mil
Rich asf
wooden ember
It's bent?
yeah you can see the bend
deep orbit
Ok so,now I made it flatter than my gf,I'll try it again and let you guys know
twilit flare
I'm blind then lol
twilit flare
Ok so,now I made it flatter than my gf,I'll try it again and let you guys know
Flatter than phils mom
Onb
I had to do the same thing with my membrane keyboard so you can imagine how painful that is
deep orbit
Ok so now it does come back up but not all the way
wooden ember
Ok so,now I made it flatter than my gf,I'll try it again and let you guys know
look how bent that biatch is
wooden ember
problem is, it could be bent upwards too
pastel drift
i need to clean my keycaps
wooden ember
you need to use a newer (and probably better quality) stab set
pastel drift
i kinda want to get new keycaps for my board
twilit flare
Do it
wooden ember
everglide plate mounts or novel keys
wooden ember
clones are fine
deep orbit
you need to use a newer (and probably better quality) stab set
I definitely do wanna get a better keyboard than a Chinese factory built ultra budget one but it takes time to arrive and I need it rn for my school work and spacebar is really useful when typing a lot
chrome raft
everglide plate mounts or novel keys
neither, Durock v2
chrome raft
Durock has better tolerances last I checked
The wires are way better too
Staebies >
wooden ember
owlabs > *
twilit flare
I definitely do wanna get a better keyboard than a Chinese factory built ultra b...
Best advice is just rebinding the spacebar if you need it that much
wooden ember
I definitely do wanna get a better keyboard than a Chinese factory built ultra b...
what's your budget for a keeb anyway?
i'm sure there's way better ones, even a keychron
deep orbit
I have a decent budget but I live out of nowhere,and delivery takes forever
wooden ember
a keychron should fit in his budget
chrome raft
Theyāre not good
twilit flare
š¢
wooden ember
they aren't great that's for sure
chrome raft
Especially compared to group buy keyboards
wooden ember
but they work good
twilit flare
I've been looking for keyboards all week just for them to be called garbage
wooden ember
and they can be made better with mods
twilit flare
I'm never gonna find a keyboard bro
chrome raft
Nah for mainstream theyāre better than logo and razer and whatever else
pastel drift
lol
twilit flare
and they can be made better with mods
What mods should I do
twilit flare
Nah for mainstream theyāre better than logo and razer and whatever else
Okay that's good enough better than razer
wooden ember
foam, tape mod, lubing, better stabs
chrome raft
What mods should I do
Force break
wooden ember
better switches
pastel drift
what's that?
twilit flare
foam, tape mod, lubing, better stabs
Bet
deep orbit
Sometimes they don't even reach me,this one time I ordered a razer mouse and I got a empty box so I am hesitant to buy anything expensive online
chrome raft
Keychron has bad tolerances and itās not like theyāre custom made. The only way they become viable is with a shit ton of mods
twilit flare
Why better switches I'm already gonna lube them
pastel drift
yooo jev
wooden ember
force break is adding tape in between the top half and bottom half of a case to reduce metal to metal or plastic to plastic sounds when typing
chrome raft
I donāt like that, using foam and painters tape and shit like that bothers me
pastel drift
what if i put my cpu coller on another fan outlet?
chrome raft
If my keyboard has to have mods to be good itās not a good keyboard
wooden ember
If my keyboard has to have mods to be good itās not a good keyboard
thats a terrible way to think
chrome raft
The only mod I do is lube
glossy sandal
Hi
twilit flare
So is force break and lube good enough
chrome raft
for a keychron?
pastel drift
what's force break?
twilit flare
And ofc new switches
wooden ember
depends on what you want from your mods
twilit flare
for a keychron?
Yeah
chrome raft
q series?
wooden ember
what's force break?
twilit flare
what's force break?
He just explained it š
pastel drift
hot
twilit flare
I can't tell the difference
chrome raft
Oh you donāt need force break for that
twilit flare
Oh
chrome raft
In fact the V series is pretty nice
twilit flare
No taping up my vict- I mean keyboads
pastel drift
i should mod my apex pro
chrome raft
Itās a basic tray mounted system