tehy use the same lube job
#peripherals
glossy sandal
And polished stem..
Yes
On ks9 yellows
They have the same factory lube application as ks3’s
if anything ks9s are smoother
Because they’re the newest ones
stoic tangle
I believe they're nearly identical but I prefer 5 pin switches in general so I do ks3
forest pebble
Personally my go to switch are MX blacks
Durock pom are nice
Alpacas too
To start with a gateron ks9 yellow is a cheap and good one to learn lubing i think
Or the milky top ones
I don't have tried that much switches on the tactile side (i did start With gat browns and Zealios but switched to linears)
One switch i tried and liked are the gat oil kings
Good options if you don't want to lube, however it's rather on the expensive side i guess
eager lake
Is the wan show up?
glossy sandal
idk
latent blaze
Is the wan show up?
Y u askin in keyboards dawg
forest pebble
Because KEYBOR based 😌
crystal gorge
I’m down to learn to lube 😏 if I need to
Hipyo says the keychron v1 is super good for beginner enthusiasts and on a budget but I think I’ll really like the milky yellows
crystal gorge
Bet
stoic tangle
Yeah tofu60 was good but the market has advanced past it atp
crystal gorge
Alright bois I’m a lil tipsy n ready to get the v1 with milky yellows
Any good places for keycaps?
stoic tangle
Um, well it depends, what kind would you like?
How much time are you willing to wait and what's your budget
crystal gorge
I don’t really have a time frame
I kinda want red and black like itatchi but still okay with other options
Pimpmykeyboard seems pretty okay
Short circuit variant of the k8 was pretty cool I’d also be okay with that. I’m very new so I’m sorry if it sounds very basic lol
stoic tangle
Nah basic is safe, nothing wrong with that. You can spend more time looking if you want to be sure. What's your budget for keycaps though?
crystal gorge
I’m not sure. I think I’m total not more that $150 and I can always upgrade or change later
stoic tangle
Including keyboard kits and switches right?
That would eat half their budget
Yeah that's what I was thinking, if they're fine with the month wait
sonic cape
better options for a sleek 60% cnc keyboard kit ?
I already have 2
but I didn´t find any other similiarly priced options
I also found them on taobao kdbfans for 110usd less then Aliexpress
chinese prices are much lower then AliE
I just dont want to wait for a group buy and most cnc diy kits i found are extremely ugly or horribly colored
sonic cape
bakeneko cnc looks ok
but the tofu has that something special
i know 4 same keyboard are kinda weird but
crystal gorge
I can’t believe I just got Rick rolled for the first time in like 3 years
thorny nymph
ima be honest
membrain keyboard in my opinion are better than machanical
because they have a wayy better thock
glossy sandal
deep geyser
guys i am looking to buy a new fullsized wireless keyboard
my budget is very low around 30$ any tips or recommendations?
fluid igloo
I’d go wired for $30
deep geyser
I’d go wired for $30
I am going for wireless cause I need to carie my laptop around school
fluid igloo
Laptop keyboard?
deep geyser
Laptop keyboard?
no, i mean an external one
fluid igloo
I know that, why not just use the laptop one
deep geyser
I know that, why not just use the laptop one
cause the laptop keyboard layout sucks i have to hit FN for everything like pressing home or pressing alt+f4
deep geyser
Change that in settings
i can't find that option on windows settings for the recaurd i have a lenovo laptop i think v113
fluid igloo
I mean, I wouldn’t buy a whole other keyboard just to alt f4
Plus, you’ll look like a huge nerd carrying an external keyboard
deep geyser
I mean, I wouldn’t buy a whole other keyboard just to alt f4
well keyboards are very important for me i use it to do everything cause i am blind
so it can slow me down if i have to press an extra key and then try to remember all the keys lol
fluid igloo
Oh shit
deep geyser
i can go up to 40 maximum
stoic tangle
because they have a wayy better thock
Cursed sentence, but hey maybe you would like electrocapacitive keyboards, they're like the advanced membrane
stoic tangle
I am going for wireless cause I need to carie my laptop around school
Wired could still work with that unless you don't have ports on your laptop
crystal gorge
Hipyo has a video for a $25 Amazon board he upgraded fin total for $90
Not the best but it’s wireless 🤷🏿♂️
Also any ideas for a itatchi themed caps?
stoic tangle
Also any ideas for a itatchi themed caps?
Maybe the samurai keycaps?
Or this one?
crystal gorge
That ones p coo actually I like that
I can’t find the video that had the link to the $25 board
stoic tangle
That ones p coo actually I like that
You'd have to wait a month and won't be top quality but costs 1/4 what you'd get other places
stoic tangle
I can’t find the video that had the link to the $25 board
You're talking about this but it's wired
https://youtu.be/CfojrBXu1kM
sonic cape
simple colors, no weird shapes, just simple industrial look
sleek bronze
gusty pivot
I can’t find the video that had the link to the $25 board
If you're actually looking for a cheap ass keyboard to play around with, you might look into the Motospeed Ck61. I wouldn't necessarily recomend it, but it fits the price range. I actually bought it just to see, what a keyboard for 25 bucks can do.
forest pebble
Imo the tofu is still a nice tray mount, affordable option. Though qk60 sure is good, Q4 also but you still have the custom keeb experience i guess with the tofu
sonic cape
okay ive decided to give gasket mount a try
with the mojo68
and also PANDAER iquinix
hybrid obsidian
anyone know a problem with gk61 from epomaker where keys 5-9 and the rows downwards from them are dimmed so low they arent visible
and I have tried the reset function
thorny nymph
its my opinion
glossy sandal
yall i need the best gaming keyboard under $50 (gotta have rgb)
“best” 
rapid belfry
what
glossy sandal
What does best mean
rapid belfry
it means most well-rounded
unkempt dome
there's no best ...
best doesn't exist as it will be different as each person is different
hybrid obsidian
honestly bro just wait and save enough money to jump to like 100-150
rapid belfry
Other than best
under $50, preferably membrane, responsive, and quiet
rapid belfry
honestly bro just wait and save enough money to jump to like 100-150
i have my reasons not to
glossy sandal
i have my reasons not to
like what
rapid belfry
reasons that don't matter
glossy sandal
??
rapid belfry
i just want it under $50
glossy sandal
idk a used realforce board
hybrid obsidian
if you absolutely want under 50 then maybe a Apex3 from steelseries
glossy sandal
why membrane specifically?
glossy sandal
if you absolutely want under 50 then maybe a Apex3 from steelseries
uses mechanical switches iirc
and still a meh board
hybrid obsidian
I was just naming something under 50
glossy sandal
o
glossy sandal
why membrane specifically?
@rapid belfry
rapid belfry
why membrane specifically?
quiet, feels nicer, and tends to have a better IP rating
glossy sandal
why are you all so stuck up on IP ratings
rapid belfry
i spill things
hybrid obsidian
membrane makes me wanna puke
glossy sandal
if you spill something on a membrane and it breaks there's no fixing it
rapid belfry
membrane makes me wanna puke
why
hybrid obsidian
one reason is I like the clickiness of my pandas
rapid belfry
fine then but i just want it to be quiet
rapid belfry
quieter than my amazonbasics keyboard and full size or tenkeyless
glossy sandal
you want quieter than membrane?
rapid belfry
well as quiet as can be
hybrid obsidian
Honestly the cherry MV that are on the K60 are fairly quiet
but then again I am comparing them to my pandas
glossy sandal
well as quiet as can be
i would just buy a prebuilt and change out the switches for silent ones
rapid belfry
quieter than this
glossy sandal
oh that sounds loud
hybrid obsidian
I have a 2 keyboard setup until I decide to get the bread to get a full size keyboard from epomaker
glossy sandal
ish
glossy sandal
I have a 2 keyboard setup until I decide to get the bread to get a full size key...
please don't do that
epomaker boards are mediocre at best
rapid belfry
I have a 2 keyboard setup until I decide to get the bread to get a full size key...
whats the point of a two keyboard setup
rapid belfry
true lmao
open crow
hybrid obsidian
I play games that require a lot of keybinds
open crow
What games
rapid belfry
then just get another hand fr
hybrid obsidian
but I really like my 60% for typing and regular gaming
glossy sandal
bro you know what layers are right
open crow
Get a 150% keeb
rapid belfry
but I really like my 60% for typing and regular gaming
i hate 60%
open crow
65%>
hybrid obsidian
For startes im in college for computer science
hybrid obsidian
and then I play games like EFT and modded games
rapid belfry
and then I play games like EFT and modded games
'modded games'
hybrid obsidian
bro you know what layers are right
Yeah I know it has layers but tbh im too lazy to actually do that
hybrid obsidian
'modded games'
like minecraft and other games with a bunch of mods that need keybinds
glossy sandal
but having 2 keyboards on your desk at a time is easier??
hybrid obsidian
but having 2 keyboards on your desk at a time is easier??
maybe because I'm used to it but yeah
rapid belfry
like minecraft and other games with a bunch of mods that need keybinds
how does modded mc need keybinds
like dev mods?
hybrid obsidian
just install a modpack and go to the keybind tab in settings lol
glossy sandal
if you learn to make use of your layers your could even go down to a pain27
hybrid obsidian
Like I said I plan to go to either a macropad or a full size with pandas
rapid belfry
full size
glossy sandal
which pandas
hybrid obsidian
LTC Holy
glossy sandal
hybrid obsidian
what
crystal gorge
i think ive decided on the keychron k2 with the red linears for now
then maybe get milky yellows down the line
been kinda overwhelmed im happy to finally decide on something lol
blissful dragon
what is thock?
stoic tangle
People generally say it's a lower sound but it's so vague don't bother chasing it lol
boreal rivet
this
its pretty much the genesis of the word people use in the hobby 🤷♂️
maybe you weren't around back then or the definition has been warped beyond recognition
sure dude
okay and your opinion affects what the descriptor means?
i see
unkempt dome
That realforce is quite loud ... or it's the effect of the room or something like that ... not really sure
Thock, clack, marbly, creamy and such words don't mean anything ... it's just a bunch of buzzword that people use a lot
Indeed it does ... but I would still really like to try a topre board
boreal rivet
yes, exactly why i feel the meaning has been lost
boreal rivet
That realforce is quite loud ... or it's the effect of the room or something lik...
the upstroke is yes
also nathan's mic then was hot garbage
unkempt dome
Sad ... that really doesn't help with the soundest
boreal rivet
yes, exactly why i feel the meaning has been lost
even your definition of the word doesn't line up with the original one
glossy sandal
whar
full field
Im making my first custom keyboard. do these parts fit?
Thera 75v2(Hot swap)
TX stabilizers rev 3 (7U)
tecsee carrots
gmk red samurai
glossy sandal
Make sure you have the right kitting for the keycaps
And make sure you’re buying 1.2mm stabs
full field
k
full field
k
tropic umbra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodlXpa3qjg&t=26s
My 87u 55g
Dummy does not even know there is nothing to scratch in a topre switch.
boreal rivet
There is friction between the slider and the housing though
tropic umbra
It’s lubed out of the factory
boreal rivet
No it’s not tf
tropic umbra
Yea it has a silicone lubricant on each one lol. It’s not great but the mechanism is robust enough to where it’s fully serviceable.
boreal rivet
Do you mean the factory lubed stabs?
Not a single topre keyboard comes factory lubed on the sliders
eternal wraith
topre is literally where thock comes from but ight
eternal wraith
yo
glossy sandal
if I ship it it’ll go bad
eternal wraith
ok then
glossy sandal
can I send you a Big Mac nft
eternal wraith
man
nfts are cringe
would much rather you send me a piece of paper with a bigmac on it
glossy sandal
eternal wraith
what is that supposed to mean
eternal wraith
idk it’s abstract art
i thought abstract art's definition was defined by its artist
i assume you're the artist
eternal wraith
i thought you were the greatest human being ever 
glossy sandal
I lied
eternal wraith
eternal wraith
work mainly
glossy sandal
eternal wraith
and switch modding
glossy sandal
have you come up with a combination you really like
glossy sandal
I think I have
Cherry nylon bottom and milky top
idk if it’s already been made but I like it
eternal wraith
i tried experimenting with the spring weight on my u4t mx blues
and swapping to a jwk pc top
i think 63.5g is my sweet spot for tactiles
glossy sandal
The bump is just too easy to reach
and it makes it feel unpleasant to me
Any new boards planned?
Freyr soon? 
eternal wraith
freyr is a consideration
but i don't like the stock red alu plate
might get a devastating tkl and cut a custom alu plate for it
eternal wraith
nop but i don't mind
eternal wraith
that is bold
eternal wraith
my endgame would have to be a realforce r2, possibly with sa miami nights and a custom case
big fan of tactiles
glossy sandal
I don’t like real force boards
they look too gamery for me
Maybe I’d buy a hhkb soon
but the pc66 
eternal wraith
they look too gamery for me
glossy sandal
I love the pc66
eternal wraith
ah yes, gamer aesthetic
glossy sandal
<:ch_what:820384697012060221>
The bob or grey ones are fine
But the rgb ones piss me off
eternal wraith
yeah rgb topre is not good
eternal wraith
was going to consider a leopold fc660c
but i have no idea if that has any software like
at all
glossy sandal
Leopolds r cool
I think they use proprietary software
Which isn’t a deal breaker for me
if I can remap keys I’m a happy camper
I just need my media keys
eternal wraith
now i'm wondering if there's any topre companies that be willing to use qmk or via
glossy sandal
does the grail use qmk/via
glossy sandal
ah
boreal rivet
All of the norbs are case swaps
eternal wraith
^
eternal wraith
understandable
glossy sandal
feels good though
eternal wraith
the type of people that buy topre don't really care about the sound
it's a secondary thing
glossy sandal
I mean sound is at the last of my priorities
it’s uh
Aesthetics > Feel > Sound
For me
eternal wraith
i like to balance sound, feel, software and aesthetic
glossy sandal
I don’t really care about sound too much
eternal wraith
because that is what i feel a good keyboard should be
glossy sandal
Unless there’s a really apparent issue
eternal wraith
i guess like
i don't care about if a board has a unique sound to it
if anything it encourages me to collect yk
glossy sandal
just get addicted to audio or something
eternal wraith
?
glossy sandal
I was going to make a joke but i forgot the segue
eternal wraith
lmao
eternal wraith
in-ear fidelity hours
glossy sandal
I asked a question there like once and have never returned
eternal wraith
i was on there for a bit and then i just left
glossy sandal
adios
eternal wraith
never came back to the headphone world after that point
i'm happy with my sennies
glossy sandal
he just got up and left
I think I will buy some closed backs sometime soon
Probably 400-500$ range
glossy sandal
so true oomfie
eternal wraith
oh fuck i didnt even notice elegias were discontinued
glossy sandal
glossy sandal
(one of my followers)ie
Idk the terminology
I just use it as a somewhat ironic term of endearment
glossy sandal
What’s wrong oomfie?
eternal wraith
anyone who uses that term unironically probably listens to 100 gecs
glossy sandal
glossy sandal
yo he playing limp biskit
glossy sandal
idk the genres
eternal wraith
limp bizkit is like
glossy sandal
are you listening to LMFAO
eternal wraith
rap rock
glossy sandal
party rockers in the house
eternal wraith
lmfao isn't pop punk 
boreal rivet
Don’t buy elegias, Ted talk over 🙂
glossy sandal
I will find out
eternal wraith
hewlett packard!!!!
glossy sandal
nothing came up
eternal wraith
not closed back tho so its got shit isolation
glossy sandal
eternal wraith
eternal wraith
probs forever as well
glossy sandal
xamn…
boreal rivet
Good
glossy sandal
I might buy the arya stealths off bleach and rob him
boreal rivet
It’s a shit headphone anyway
eternal wraith
I might buy the arya stealths off bleach and rob him
free headphones!!!
glossy sandal
real !!
boreal rivet
If you are able to, get speakers
glossy sandal
I don’t like speakers
boreal rivet
Then you haven’t heard good ones
glossy sandal
my entire gripe is that open ears leak sound
eternal wraith
not true
glossy sandal
I don’t know what to believe anymore
boreal rivet
They do leak but it’s not actually that loud
eternal wraith
a good portion of open backs do leak sound but there's an exception to everything
ye
boreal rivet
I mean if you don’t want speakers because of the noise then yeah I understand, which is why I said if you could
I hear that well setup 305pm2s can outres hd800
eternal wraith
i appreciate somewhat good audio but i don't care enough to invest thousands of dollars into it
glossy sandal
I’m easily appeased by audio
boreal rivet
I’m too deep
glossy sandal
if it doesn’t leak sound and sounds somewhat decent I’m fine with it
boreal rivet
Currently building an amp lmao
eternal wraith
which is why ive stuck with my HD560Ses + AT2020 + NI KA1 + R1700BTs
it works. sounds great, don't see any other reason to upgrade
yeah.
glossy sandal
Frey what’re you listening to at this present moment ⁉️
eternal wraith
epic
glossy sandal
I like it
eternal wraith
i know nothing about jazz
eternal wraith
oh yeah uh
glossy sandal
i'm just unfamiliar with names
me but with metal
eternal wraith
if i ever get a freyr
glossy sandal
what the fuck is djent
glossy sandal
What color
THE PCB???
I never know what type of shit you be on
Gotta stay on my toes
eternal wraith
i have 5 hours of sleep
glossy sandal
yeah
glossy sandal
sorry for being supportive 
glossy sandal
Frey do you need a hug
eternal wraith
yeah
glossy sandal
okay cool just asking
eternal wraith
do you?
eternal wraith
okay just wondering
glossy sandal
I think it’s like 50° rn
glossy sandal
okay just wondering
glossy sandal
should’ve seen that coming
eternal wraith
christmas present for the server
eternal wraith
yeah
glossy sandal
Or morning
eternal wraith
night
glossy sandal
Idk
eternal wraith
sleep well
unkempt dome
my entire gripe is that open ears leak sound
Put your headphones on
Play music to the usual listening level
Keep playing music and put your headphones on the desk
That's about how loud the most leaky open back would leak sound
forest pebble
I mean you do the burger oring mod and it's not that bad, different experience
I might be biased by my stiff board liking, like i don't like that much the vertex angle i built recently, feel like my 1.2og and 2.0add are better feeling wise
forest pebble
True
A lot of things are in the hobby
Especially once you've stopped looking at the low-end/budget
Like qk65 and stuff
(qk65 more in the budget than low end part but you probably get my point)
chilly perch
game
glossy sandal
he got the game mouse
chrome raft
I mean it's onn sooooo not bad.
cinder anchor
I have a question, the Alpaca Linears state that they will not work with 3-pin hotswap boards unless you clip the 2 extra plastic pins. The PCB I will use has support for 3pin and 5pin support. Will I still need to clip the 2 plastic pins?
glossy sandal
No
A 5 pin board can take both 3/5 pin switches
a 3 pin board can only take 3 pin switches
cinder anchor
thank you @glossy sandal
tender wasp
W
exotic vault
is there a wirelss keyboard that has a good looking fingerprint sensor like on the touch id magic keyboard for m1 macs?
forest pebble
From what I have tried so far, felt like a normal MX black to me, but it's not like I'm an expert, plus it's hard to tell on a switch tester with a shit keycap. I guess we need to wait for some comparaisons inside a keyboard.
Also the one i tried was the prelubed so very hard to tell. But to be honest looked like it was nice as it was.
forest pebble
I mean all things considered they never were that bad, just need to lube them
Sure there are smoother ones, but sound wise it's different
But then what's a good stock switch
On what criteria, because to me, in the hobby prelubing isn't necessary something that make a switch a good stock switch as the preference is to be able to adjust the amount of lube
However a very light prelube isn't an issue
fluid flare
So happy I brought an 60% keyboard instead of a full one
glossy sandal
glossy sandal
However a very light prelube isn't an issue
From what I’ve experienced, if the lube is light you can just do over it
If not, cleaning it is pretty troublesome; I <3 dry switches
fluid flare
Ooof finally done and I love it
glossy sandal
from what little I talked to them, random gk61 clone, outemu greens, pudding keycaps?
glossy sandal
yeah 
glossy sandal
is there a wirelss keyboard that has a good looking fingerprint sensor like on t...
Not really, that seems like an apple gimmick
cinder anchor
are POM stem switches compatible with cherry profile keycaps?
fluid flare
from what little I talked to them, random gk61 clone, outemu greens, pudding key...
its the womier wk61
and its outemu greens/teals? switches
i was right on the spot to order some clickey switches since the reds that were by default suck
🤨 ooof good thing i rdered 9extra switches
i mashed some pins they are more flimsey as i expected i thought the pins were thicker and round
glossy sandal
i mashed some pins they are more flimsey as i expected i thought the pins were t...
Outemu switches are thinner than standard mx yeah
Mostly because they’re meant to fit into outemu sockets
what?
glossy sandal
are POM stem switches compatible with cherry profile keycaps?
Yeah
If it’s mx style stem and mx style keycap, it’ll fit
fluid flare
well all in all i only smashed one beyond fixing so yeah did better as expected
exotic vault
Not really, that seems like an apple gimmick
damn.. it’s not really a gimmick because of windows hello but i guess i’ll ave to stick with a separate fingerprint sensor… thanks tho
glossy sandal
Who said I was talking about hyperglides..
glossy sandal
damn.. it’s not really a gimmick because of windows hello but i guess i’ll ave t...
It seems cool but doesn’t seem worth it for keyboard manufacturers
Since I imagine it’s very complex to incorporate
fluid flare
🤨 its kinda nice that i got the revised version of the womier wk61, since now i have the silicon mat between faceplate and pcb
cinder anchor
If it’s mx style stem and mx style keycap, it’ll fit
is the mx style stem the + looking thing
exotic vault
Since I imagine it’s very complex to incorporate
i don’t mean a button fingerprint, just a keyboard with a fingerpitn onto it would suffice, even if it isn’t a button
glossy sandal
is the mx style stem the + looking thing
Yep
exotic vault
is the mx style stem the + looking thing
multi standard key
fluid flare
Finaly I can throw away my ewaste emergency keyboard
membran keys are so fucking disguting feeling
fluid flare
🤔 i kinda which the pudding keycaps would be difusing instead of translucent
it would make em look better well i needa get some new keycaps anyways since im german and use qwertz instead of qwerty so its super confusing and shifting between english and german layout with shift alt sucks
glossy sandal
pretty sure you would need an iso board, which the k61(?) isn’t.
reminds me of osume keycaps
glossy sandal
i don’t mean a button fingerprint, just a keyboard with a fingerpitn onto it wou...
I’m unsure about the logistics but it still seems unnecessary in a lot of use cases, still interesting though.
forest pebble
If you stay long enough in the hobby you will forget about RGB 😁
fluid flare
🤔 rgb is one of the mst important things for me
forest pebble
it would make em look better well i needa get some new keycaps anyways since im ...
But iso-de isn't the hardest thing to find imo
fluid flare
yeah some hyperx pudding keycaps twenty five bucks lol (okay i need to fix the two key)
and the eight xD
okay 2 and 8 fixed lol
🤨 im kinda suprised how good the stabiliser are even stock i dont even need to mod em they are already perfect they are even lubed prety good
but dang theese outemu greens sound and feel realy great
tender basin
I need help I took my keyboard space bar out and I put it back in but it just won't click
glossy sandal
If you stay long enough in the hobby you will forget about RGB 😁
rgb never was important to me, got a monitor lamp on the way
glossy sandal
I need help I took my keyboard space bar out and I put it back in but it just wo...
Can you elaborate
forest pebble
rgb never was important to me, got a monitor lamp on the way <:Smirking:10151908...
Yeah, having good lighting is more important imo
eager lake
But rgb
forest pebble
In my opinion, like for PC, RGB doesn't make it nicer
chilly perch
Blacklighting underrated by keyboard snobs
forest pebble
I was convinced by backlighting for a while
But having a desk light and using a light in my room is less straining in my experience
Than having backlight on a keyboard
If you have both, well the keyboard back light not that usefull
chilly perch
I've never used a monitor mounted lamp, but I can only imagine the annoying glare that will end up causing
urban panther
I like a basic white backlight on keyboards
forest pebble
Hmmm i don't really have much glare
chilly perch
If only I could get a refund on my keychron, I would immediately
forest pebble
But i also tend to use my room light also
Monitor light is more when I'm working on my desk
What keychron did you got ?
chilly perch
If you don't have a use case for no backlit more power to you but I have had numerous cases where I'd like as many lights off as possibly and a little bit of keyboard legend glow
forest pebble
Those have backlighting (at least q series)
chilly perch
Including LEDs on a South facing design is purely designed to advertise to non- informed people like myself who
urban panther
It would be nice if keychron had no backlighting or just white for a few bucks less
urban panther
Including LEDs on a South facing design is purely designed to advertise to non- ...
Yeah it's dumb
forest pebble
Some model have on K series
urban panther
Some model have on K series
Oops, I meant specifically in Q/V series
chilly perch
Keyboard resell loses a lot of value so there's no real point in me dumping it tho. Besides the leds it's good
forest pebble
I see, i did use a bit the RGB on the Q1, imo worked fine as backlight
forest pebble
Keyboard resell loses a lot of value so there's no real point in me dumping it t...
On low end yeah
chilly perch
I bought pbt shine caps with my board I can not see the letters whatsoever on max brightness.
Unless you have full clear switch bodies idk
forest pebble
Well lately kinda a slump for mid range stuff, but proper nice stuff that didn't ran on hype is doing ok
chilly perch
Even on my boba u4, had clear top and cloudy bottom. It was very useless
forest pebble
I bought pbt shine caps with my board I can not see the letters whatsoever on ma...
Oh yeah for shine through it's useless
I mean, in my opinion it never was meant for shine through anyway
Backlighting ok
chilly perch
No it wasn't
Because they chose South facing
Of yeah by backlit I meant shine thru
forest pebble
Yeah, make all sense to me 😁
chilly perch
Having leds vomit into your kb plate is dumb
forest pebble
It's separate stuff 😁
If find having crisp legends with good contrast better than lighting legends in that regard 😁
But everyone has their taste i guess
(reworded as it was leading to misinterpretation)
stoic tangle
I used to like backlit keys but I realized it was more annoying than a desk light because RGB is pointed directly at my eyes. A soft reflection from desk lamp is less straining
chilly perch
I do need to get myself a lamp
forest pebble
I used to like backlit keys but I realized it was more annoying than a desk ligh...
What i found out too
chilly perch
stoic tangle
And if I have the RGB/computer off, it doesn't look as good as consistently pretty keycaps
forest pebble
And hey, in a way it's better for the environment 😂(not by much)
(since you use a light for the desk)
But during the day all good
forest pebble
I use my keyboard at night with lights off very often. And while coding, hitting...
Skill issue 😂
Nah jk
stoic tangle
I use my keyboard at night with lights off very often. And while coding, hitting...
Yeah i code too, gotten used to parenthesis but still training the others
chilly perch
I dare you to close your eyes and hit f10 first try without feeling up yew kb lol
forest pebble
Maybe look into different spring weight if you mistype to often
Also i found out that your chair height can influence
chilly perch
Yeah I very dislike my switches
forest pebble
So check if positioning differently helps
chilly perch
I need to get more something more tactile but I'm poor rn
stoic tangle
I dare you to close your eyes and hit f10 first try without feeling up yew kb lo...
I mean unless you're in pitch black you can see where the second key in the last function group is
forest pebble
And it's the best for me, so maybe try someone else linear board, with maybe heavier linear to see
Do the same for tactiles
Why not clicky switches
chilly perch
I used to have mx blues. Love em. But then I got my keychron and gat browns. Hate those things.
For a while I used boba u4 at work, I like the force of the keys but hate the mush, horrible
Gat browns might as well be linear
stoic tangle
An unsatisfying tactile doesn't mean you've tried a good linear lol
forest pebble
Since u4 is the silent one
chilly perch
Yeah i will try more when I un-poor myself
Yes i know they're silent I bought them to use at work for a few months
forest pebble
All things considered, light tactile isn't necessarily bad, it's just a preference
Like some people only want slight feed back
And others want it crunchy
(I'm caricaturing ) but the idea is there
Same stuff, the boba u4t has that kind of round tactile peak
Some might prefer it sharper
Personally i quite liked the Zealios v2 feel but i wouldn't recommend the switch for what it is
Durock cerulean good
chilly perch
By saying they are linear, I'm comparing them to only mx red, gat brown, u4, and mx blue. With that context they might as well be linear.
I just don't like them at all lol. Blues awsom except the noise
forest pebble
It's quite a good middle ground as a tactile
stoic tangle
Silent switches always have the pillowed effect to achieve it, unfortunate
chilly perch
And u4 awsom except the extreme mushed bottom
stoic tangle
If you want a budget linear switch to try there's gateron yellow pros
forest pebble
Personally, i prefer to say "light tactile, almost as if it was a linear " 😁, but gat Brown to me still is clearly a tactile switch
Gat yellow good value yes
Or gat black (same shit but heavier)
Those with milky top are also nice sound wise
I mean it's a nice switches, i have my own bias towards tactiles now as i feel like it's just an inferior MX black 😁
But still in my top switches
Plus depending on the batch and when it was made tactility is different on them
Like between retooled, pretooled, hyperglides, vintage ect
Plus the lube job does have an influence
But looked like that hyperglides are more tactile than vintage, but then not all batch are equals
I think I'd need a mad man with a good experience in those switches to know 😁
forest pebble
Yes i have some in my 2.0add Xmas
Very nice
At first i thought about removing them, but I've come to like them
I mean those are lubed
And butter browns so already broken in
Plus as i swap often keebs i think it's négligeable 😁
glossy sandal
I think the general consensus is that after 650k or so actuations it can’t get noticeably smoother
yeah, idk why this place doesn’t like them
probably only been exposed to rgb cherry mx
calm moon
Hello everyone Im new around here and I'm considering buying a mechanical keyboard
I'm a very slow typer
embarrassing slow
a good run for me is in the range of 32 wpm
so you know Im willing to invest in one to try to improve or well try to
but I never had a mechanical keyboard before and I have used a red switch hyperx of a friend of mine
and clacked the switches of a blue one before but that's about it for me a mechanical keyboards
chilly perch
First off you don't need a nice keyboard to type fast. That said keyboard awsom and still a good buy if you want to get one.
calm moon
First off you don't need a nice keyboard to type fast. That said keyboard awsom ...
well that's the thing idk I'm not super sold on one yet Idk how it would feel
I have used a dell sk-8135 all my life
well not all my life but a very significant portion of my life
and every else I have used was worse
so Im tempted
glossy sandal
I type faster on laptop then I do any of my mech boards
chilly perch
me on the macbook keyboard 💀
calm moon
I mean my laptop keyboard is good
it's not out of the water good
it's an Hp elitebook G5 keyboard they pretty sold
but I don't really find them super special than my dell keyboard
that take seems uncomforting
perhaps I may never know how a mechanical keyboard feels like
chilly perch
computer
glossy sandal
so you know Im willing to invest in one to try to improve or well try to
Do you have some parameters?
Or like an idea of what you want
calm moon
no not really
I liked the red more than the blues
that all I ever tried
for like 30 secs
calm moon
Do you have some parameters?
I haven't tried the 60% ones but they look painful ig that's a parameter
I use the arrow key alot
I don't mind a numpad but if I'm paying premium I want it to be portable so not having it is a plus
calm moon
Or like an idea of what you want
actually
getting it local is a massive plus
customs don't play nice here
so I can throw in ones and ask for opinions on it
so the ad listing that got me thinking in the first place
a hyper x alloy origins tkl
I don't even know what switches it has
glossy sandal
So a 65%
calm moon
I think
glossy sandal
getting it local is a massive plus
Unless you have a custom keyboard store near you, there is close to nothing you can pick up close to you
calm moon
not new
but used
I think I can mange
like the hyper x alloy origins tkl I was talking about
Ik nothing about it but that it's marked down a good bit
should I consider it?
I will go pick it up so I can check it so that's no issue
but is it worth the time
crystal gorge
My keychron k2 shipped today bois
thorny nymph
Will Vaseline be any good for lubing a membrain keyboard?
forest pebble
You can lube a "membrane" keyboard in a sense, as long as there are mechanical parts to lube
Some exceptions like topre as an example
But you could also mean the stabs
thorny nymph
I'm lubing it rn
forest pebble
But Vaseline is not a good lube for plastics
It's petroleum based, so id i recall it's not going to end well overtime
thorny nymph
It's petroleum based, so id i recall it's not going to end well overtime
I'm being lite with it
forest pebble
It's not about being lite 😁, chemical reaction are chemical reactions 😁
thorny nymph
forest pebble
I mean could work
thorny nymph
So far everything seems to be just fine
forest pebble
Not recommended long term to use Vaseline if i recall
But i mean, i guess this is the kind of keeb you can afford to replace when it's cooked
forest pebble
Cheaper than my switches 😁
Well my tx stabs sets cost more 😂 (though i prefer using a cheaper combo, cherry clip ins + C3 wires)
thorny nymph
Ngl
I like membrain more
I know there a slight delay with membrain but
I don't notice it
glossy sandal
Is that by choice ?
forest pebble
I don't think membrane has a delay ?
glossy sandal
can we see?
forest pebble
Or it's it tied to your contrôler ?
thorny nymph
Lemme dif out my mechanical keyboard
glossy sandal
I know there a slight delay with membrain but
you sure it’s not just uh, polling rate?
forest pebble
I have a few mechanical keyboard myself 🤣
Imo polling rate kinda bs on keeb especially over 1000hz
Maybe if you are like hardcore OSU player 😁
thorny nymph
It's been collecting dust in my droors for over a year
glossy sandal
I mean standard is 1000hz on most modern keyboards
200hz can also be found
so that’s why I’m assuming
forest pebble
Most people could probably live with 125hz
glossy sandal
Yeah I use 1000hz
glossy sandal
It's been collecting dust in my droors for over a year
Scratchy blues..
forest pebble
I dunno what the hell is that switch but probably not very good indeed
glossy sandal
makes sense you don’t like it since you called membrane better since it had more “thock”
thorny nymph
I have had experience with cherry reds
glossy sandal
rgb cherry reds are horrid
glossy sandal
8000 is just marketing at that point
Yeah, I don’t think anything past 1000hz is important
some people do care (idk who) and buy stuff like wooting
forest pebble
I haven't tried their hall effect switch so i cannot tell if it's objectively good or bad
I do think that some people will take benefit of it
But keyboard input is different than mouse input for gaming
thorny nymph
Btw you don't lube the membrain switches
forest pebble
There are no membrane switches ?
thorny nymph
No there are
forest pebble
Well maybe you can call them membrane switches
thorny nymph
But that's not what you lube when lubing a membrane keyboard
You lube these bottom things
forest pebble
There are not exactly switches
thorny nymph
Ik
chilly perch
its the stem
thorny nymph
Can't really tell on camera since the mics mid af
But omfg irl it sounds soo good
glossy sandal
btw Vaseline is petroleum based
thorny nymph
Ik
glossy sandal
so it can (and probably will) destroy your board
glossy sandal
yeah it’ll deteriorate
forest pebble
It's a cheap one
By the time it's ded
I never checked on the k55 i had of the "meca membrane" parts had stuff that could be lubed
I still have it in a box somewhere
forest pebble
Now that i think about it, the only ever membrane i owned that i could remove caps was the Corsair k55
unkempt dome
So far everything seems to be just fine
Vaseline will eat away the plastic in due time
glossy sandal
they’re well aware, it’s an e-waste board so they don’t care
vital cape
so despite the fact that I jam packed my keyboard full of foam it still has a twang sound to it. The twang is drastically dampened now, but it isn't fully gone. Could it be the foam I am using? I am usign various types of weather proofing foam that we had laying around the house.
vital cape
well that aint happening bc they are all soldered and I really don't feel like desoldering all of them. At least it is considerably better than it was stock.
thanks though
glossy sandal
You could probably use even more sound absorbing foam
but I think it’s negligible difference
boreal rivet
Inject some oil like 105
glossy sandal
true
boreal rivet
Only works if you’re using alps or the plate has the proper cutouts
vital robin
is there a way to have a keyboard key-in unicode character? Or do I have to pick from charmap every time I want to use multiplication symbol?
I remember back in windows xp you can set some sort of software keyboard with different sets and you can use those chart symbols quite easily
chrome raft
anyone know something similar too IFK blacklight
echo nacelle
Should I get holy pandas or 110 ktt Kang whites v3 for 17 pounds on AliExpress
glossy sandal
what
vital cape
not case ping..
outta curiosity, do u think that it was a coimbo of case and switch ping, and while I obviously fixed the case ping for the most part the spring ping obviously remains?
also the entire top half of the switch seems to be mounded above the keyboard, and there appears that there might be a seam between the transparent part of the switch and the black base that is sitting on top of the aluminium plate and what the clear part of the switch seems to be attached to.
Think they could be disassembled?
ember dove
My Akko creams are here and it’s miles better than cheap mk browns clones
Still need to lube which I’ll have to find time to
glossy sandal
My Akko creams are here and it’s miles better than cheap mk browns clones
Akko changed their packaging?
sad
deep geyser
Wired could still work with that unless you don't have ports on your laptop
Yeah but it will get cot somewhere or trip over it plus I can just put my laptop anywhere and I can just use it
stoic tangle
I mean wrapping up most of it would solve that but sure. I was just saying good wireless boards at that price are not easy to find
chrome raft
i feel like akko has gotten a lot better recently
glossy sandal
I mean it’s one of the cheapest long pole switches on the market
that’s a pretty cool thing
glossy sandal
Not sure this is my first Akko purchase
did it come in a mock-up leather box?
Which is made of cardboard
ember dove
did it come in a mock-up leather box?
No but it’s only like 17$ for a 2 pack 
glossy sandal
damn so they did really change their packaging
unkempt dome
Damn
ember dove
packaging doesnt really matter anyway as long as its here safely, and they save some money on selling it to me cheaper then ill take it
glossy sandal
Yeah but Akko packaging was really pleasant
glossy sandal
outta curiosity, do u think that it was a coimbo of case and switch ping, and wh...
I think it’s feasible but it would be hard to get back into working order, since you’d just be using brute force to take apart the switch
vital cape
I think it’s feasible but it would be hard to get back into working order, since...
Yah ive decided thats not really worth it. Especially because I was able to get rid of most of the ping with foam, and to be honest I usually listen to music at my desk anyways which seems to cover up the remaining ping.
Thx for everyone's help though
cunning anvil
do ppl usually like building zmk locally or on their github or what
sonic cape
anyone would take a guess at why my dz60 wont work upon boot ?
and needs to be replugged in order to work
always at login screen it lights up but doesnt type
chrome raft
when you run out of dielectric grease and your stab start to tick 
forest pebble
Never had that issue with dz60, interesting
chrome raft
Do I need to buy a certain keycap set for my keyboard or does it not matter
forest pebble
I mean, most of the aftermarket keycaps will physically fit on mechanical switches that have the MX compatible stem
However, if your keyboard is a 75, 65 (or 1800/96), you need to check the compatibility of the modifiers
In most aftermarket set sold for the custom keyboard hobby his shouldn't be an issue, but for cheaper stuff i don't know, though you definitely have some options that have everything
What keyboard do you want to buy caps for ?
forest pebble
Are rog NX switches MX compatible?
boreal rivet
yes
stoic tangle
And I hate sharp keycaps so I'm trying to get soft edge ones
Not sure what you mean by sharp but if you want more circular try XDA keycaps?
swift kernel
anyone have any recommendations for good wireless tkl or smaller mech keyboards?
gloomy patrol
anyone have any recommendations for good wireless tkl or smaller mech keyboards?
k8 pro
can you solder
swift kernel
no and keychron dont ship to aus on their website for some weird reason
well at least last time j tried to buy one
swift kernel
there are plenty of aus sites that sell keychron keyboards, but not the one i picked out on their site
are there any other brands that are similar to keychron
forest pebble
On another side, is wireless super important for you ? (well i did had a g915tkl at some point and autonomy was good, so not wired often), however i ended up being ok with a cable later on
swift kernel
well i already have a wired one atm and its annoying, plus im trying to build a really clean and nice setup, small pc itx mobo, wireless peripherals etc
so im tryna find a good wireless keyboard thats small too
was thinking steelseries apex pro tkl wireless 2023 but i was hoping there was something closer to custom keyboards that i could get
forest pebble
My fix is expensive, having a nice custom cable 🤣
I did had some coiled cables before, to be honest i don't understand too much the esthetic and practicality
So straight cable and less problems I'd advise if someone would want a custom cable
swift kernel
so... there is no good wireless ones then
forest pebble
What itx case do you want by curiousity ?
swift kernel
because... i dont want a cable
swift kernel
What itx case do you want by curiousity ?
not itx case, matx case but fractal pop air mini
forest pebble
In all honesty, if the typing feel is ok to you the g915tkl was quite practical
stoic tangle
Does AliExpress ship to Australia well? I like nj80, bit smaller than tkl with 2.4ghz reciever
forest pebble
But meh switches to be honest
This is quite a chonker and expensive for someone outside the hobby and the gb has ended a few weeks ago but the class80 had bt support
swift kernel
Does AliExpress ship to Australia well? I like nj80, bit smaller than tkl with 2...
nah
i search it and it comes up usd
swift kernel
ah yes i see it now
but not a fan of that keyboard
is there anything similar to drop ctrl keyboards
cause they are so cool but literally so expensive to ship to aus
swift kernel
not a site
swift kernel
yea
glossy sandal
dull vault
Hey everyone, I’m in the market for a mechanical TKL keyboard with white or RGB backlight. In terms of price I am placing my upper limit at around 140 CAD/110USD, but could go higher if it’s compelling. Doesn’t need to be a gaming keyboard per se.
dull vault
I should add I do want to go with a white theme