peripherals

[glossy sandal]

I like pretty keycaps instead of pretty lights

[uneven shuttle]

so do you use white backlights then or no backlight

[glossy sandal]

none

[knotty vector]

whats that?

[glossy sandal]

I have a monitor lightbar

[glossy sandal]

open source reprogramming software for keyboards

[eternal wraith]

VIA is RGB/key-mapping software for a lot of custom keyboards

[uneven shuttle]

Not as cozy though

[glossy sandal]

I like it a lot more though

[uneven shuttle]

Needs compatible hardware right?

[glossy sandal]

and my keycaps don’t allow for shine through

[glossy sandal]

yes

[eternal wraith]

yep

[knotty vector]

ohh cool, imma look at that then.

[glossy sandal]

it probably doesn’t support your current keyboard btw

[eternal wraith]

you need a keyboard that supports it

[glossy sandal]

Frey are you my missing brain cell

[knotty vector]

i have a 20 buck membrane keyboard atm so i dont think so either lol

[glossy sandal]

ouch

[eternal wraith]

perhaps

[knotty vector]

yup

[eternal wraith]

😳

[glossy sandal]

come back

[eternal wraith]

gas i have a question

[knotty vector]

as an 15 year old who doesnt have alot of money (and if i did i dont think my parents would allow me to buy a 100/200 euro keyboard), it was one of the cheapest things i could find

[eternal wraith]

understandable, i was in the same situation as well

used to own a g213, now i own a custom built aluminium ergo board

[knotty vector]

was that any good?

[wintry quest]

The only disappointing thing about via is the lack of lighting features I feel it is totally capable of having such as choosing the color of the led for each individual key or running the rainbow effects with 2 or 3 colors of your choice instead of the entire rainbow

[eternal wraith]

g213? it was alright

[glossy sandal]

shoot

[eternal wraith]

yeah via is kinda limiting in that regard

[uneven shuttle]

(this is why i like icue sm)

[eternal wraith]

do i make my whole setup (and consequently, my main keeb) filled with rgb or no-rgb

[knotty vector]

the main part for me is if has per-key rgb, if is membrane or mechanical is less imporant

if it is mechanical its an plus but if its not that important

[wintry quest]

Well since via is open source I guess I can try to add those features to via myself even though it will be scuffed. I can also try to see if I can do anything through the pure hell that is compiling custom QMK and VIA firmware but that would be different for every keyboard so It would only fix it for my Keychron q2

[eternal wraith]

@glossy sandal currently deciding between a ymdk wings with mw heresy and mx blue frankens, or a tofu65 acrylic with modded mx blacks with cxa wob

[wintry quest]

Plus bad firmware will brick my board and I will have to disassemble it to press the reset button on the pcb so I probably won’t go the firmware route but maybe I can do it by modifying via

[uneven shuttle]

speaking of per key backlighting, does anyone know how it's done electrically? Do they use the same serial ICs rgb strips or do they have one diode matrix per primary color

[glossy sandal]

I would take the tofu

[eternal wraith]

so rgb?

[glossy sandal]

sure

I like the tofu so yeah!

but no cxa pls

[eternal wraith]

cxa looks good

imo

[glossy sandal]

I don’t like centered keycaps so I may be biased

[eternal wraith]

sounds like bias

[glossy sandal]

yeah

[eternal wraith]

i may go with the wings then

because

funny int plate board

[chrome raft]

From the switches?

[glossy sandal]

Plate

[eternal wraith]

gassy trail 😳

[glossy sandal]

hi

[uneven shuttle]

I don't think using organic anything is very smart

[urban panther]

lol

isn't coconut oil a solid at room temp

[uneven shuttle]

oh that was ages ago

so is candlewax, still works for lubricating drawer rails

[dusty jungle]

I wish corsair keyboards were available on my country in iraq
All they have is the stupid redragon keyboards literally or an expensive 200$ keyboards

[proven tartan]

Are the Logitech light speed keyboards good?

[latent blaze]

not really, they are super expensive and not close to as good as similar boarda at the price

imo

[vital robin]

does anyone know how does a n-key-rollover keyboard work (in the key "polling" side)

[torn viper]

DROP MT3 KEYCAPS ARE BOGO FREE
https://drop.com/all-communities/drops/MT3BOOGOO

[unkempt dome]

I would take a redragon over a corsair board any time of the day

[dusty jungle]

I tried the switches horrible

[unkempt dome]

I have one and it's quite better than the corsair I've tried

[dusty jungle]

This is my friend keyboard

Redragon

No joke I prefer this one

[dusty jungle]

Im glad you found what you are looking for

[unkempt dome]

redragon is not what I was looking for tho

[dusty jungle]

Im glad you like it lol

[dusty jungle]

The portion in the dark after he installed foam under it

[narrow temple]

does anyone know this keyboard https://www.happii.dk/Tastatur/DELTACO-GAMING-mini-mechanical-keyboard-DE-Tastatur-Tysk-Sort/3073628

[viscid tapir]

is this worth

buyin

[viscid tapir]

i bought it

lol

[knotty vector]

what makes brown switches different? isnt it like just blue's but then more silent?

or am i missing something?

[atomic linden]

yes it is blues but without the added click and i think they're a lot less tactile than blues

[knotty vector]

can you explain further?

Idk if it is possble

[atomic linden]

what didn't you understand?

[knotty vector]

I know explaining things that you can feel is hard to do but
what do you mean with tactile?

[atomic linden]

the bump you feel at some point during the keys travel

for example on reds the keys just go down smooth without any bump but on tactile switches (blue,brown) there is a difference in force required to push the key down at some point

here is force curve for mx brown

[knotty vector]

oh yeah that makes some amount of sence

thank you!

[atomic linden]

got it from here: https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/learn/mechanical-switches

[viscid tapir]

brown feels like blue instead of red but is not loud

some people say it feels scratchy but i really like the tactile bump

[boreal rivet]

its actually quite nice

like a linear but not boring as shit

[pulsar folio]

it can I guess, but apply some lube and problem solved

it also depends on which browns you get

had much better experience with Gatreon than Cherry MX

[viscid tapir]

I have gotten original keychron ones now

[pulsar folio]

aren't those Gatreon?

[viscid tapir]

It was only sold with those hahah

No v1 is keychron q1 is gateron

[pulsar folio]

Iirc Keychron also have their own switches as well

ahh I see

[viscid tapir]

Idk never tried them not sure how they feel

[pulsar folio]

Keychron is awesome ngl, I hope they keep expanding their selection, but stay true to what they're doing

[viscid tapir]

Blue are often too loud red too linear for me hahah

[pulsar folio]

and never compromise on quality no matter how big they get

try Corsair keyboards with red switches, oh man, is that ever a bad feeling

you press keys just by looking at it the wrong way

with browns you at least have to push the key 😛

[viscid tapir]

i just like that tactile bump you get

because you have a feeling your pressed something

[viscid tapir]

V1 or K2

hmmm

[viscid tapir]

I have ordered it already

Thinking i should cancel an order would appreciate advice

[viscid tapir]

I did cancel the order and i will probably get k2 instead of v1

Or which one would you guys recommend

[glossy sandal]

I would rather have the V1

I think the K2 series is outdated

[viscid tapir]

I thought it is the other way around

But how was the quality

[open crow]

V2 >

[glossy sandal]

?

They’re the same thing

Only difference is layout

[open crow]

So?

V2 >

[viscid tapir]

I like design and layout of k2 way more than v1 but how is the quality

It is more narrow has more feautures has less old fashioned designed

[glossy sandal]

wdym by more features

[viscid tapir]

Idk i have noticed that they sell more keycaps for it and is wireless which i do not care a lot for but it is nice to have if needed

Also i have noticed you can get it prelubed and with aluminium case

[glossy sandal]

Keycaps are better, I like the switches better, better stabs and qmk/via functionality

[viscid tapir]

What i have noticed about v1 is tha keycaps are like more narrow than wide and square as on k2

And layout is a more spread out

[glossy sandal]

I don’t really enjoy that, it’s just the top case and it sounds pretty lackluster

[glossy sandal]

you do know the keycaps are interchangeable right?

They’re the same layout, one is just spread out

[viscid tapir]

But they cost as much as a keyboard and are not that common

Also all i have noticed tend to be in more narrow circular shape

[glossy sandal]

Yeah that’s OSA profile keycaps

vs oem

[uneven shuttle]

i have one of those it's perfectly adequate

[viscid tapir]

Yes i find those a little too narrow

When i type my fingers slip off

[glossy sandal]

Which ones?

[viscid tapir]

The ones that are more narrow

The ones compared to flat ones

[uneven shuttle]

it's the same board as the ganss alt61 and the royal kludge rk61 fyi, you might find more reviews like that

[glossy sandal]

So oem?

the ones on the K2?

[viscid tapir]

V1

K2 feels more comfortable hm

[glossy sandal]

Have you tried either?

[viscid tapir]

Friend has it

Yes

[glossy sandal]

so what do you have to compare it to

[viscid tapir]

I tried v1 and k2 for a little while

I have cheap redragon keyboard dragonborn model

It has a shape like most akko ones i really like

Very square and flat keycaps

[glossy sandal]

xda?

[viscid tapir]

I am not sure about the name

[glossy sandal]

ASA profile

They’re scooped

[viscid tapir]

They are like flat cubicals maybe a little scooped

But i am not a fan of circular ones like narrow like cones

[glossy sandal]

So SA?

[viscid tapir]

Like cones feel a little uncomfortable when i rest my fingers when i play games

[glossy sandal]

Akkos ASA is their version of SA

[viscid tapir]

Oem

No not sa

[glossy sandal]

Akko keycaps are ASA (SA)

Keychron k2 uses oem keycaps

[viscid tapir]

Yes akko one i had

It had same as k2

V1 is asa there right

Not a fan of this

[glossy sandal]

keychron uses OSA

their version of SA

For the V1

[viscid tapir]

I just like square ones

Like the most flat squares

[glossy sandal]

So OEM

[viscid tapir]

Maybe i eould prefer k2 over v1

Pretty sure oem

[glossy sandal]

it has less features I’d say but if it’s what you’d like

don’t let me stop you

[viscid tapir]

I do not care about like customization

I use third party programs

I just plug and use

But how is build quality

[glossy sandal]

third party programs?

[glossy sandal]

ehhh, pretty standard tray mount board, sound will be inconsistent and so will feel, it sounds kind hollow out of box, the finish is fine it’s a soldered usb-c which I’m not of

[zenith swallow]

WK61 or RK61?

[narrow temple]

can i mod that keyboard because im getting it for christmas

[eternal wraith]

Keychron V4.

[uneven shuttle]

Mod how

[narrow temple]

make it sound better

[uneven shuttle]

It sounds alright already imo

I think the best sound mod is swapping the switches themselves though and these are soldered

[narrow temple]

what switches do you have in the keyboard?

[uneven shuttle]

Can u be more specific about what you want to do

Content brown

[narrow temple]

i can try

[uneven shuttle]

U can stuff it with polyfil and put o-rings under the caps i suppose

[narrow temple]

have you had any issues with it?

[uneven shuttle]

Sometimes i forget what the fn hotkeys are?

Also there's no volume adjust shortcut but i solved that with autohotkey

[narrow temple]

that shouldnt be a problem for me

but thanks

[uneven shuttle]

The keycaps feel pretty cheap, and get quite greasy over time

but like just take them off and rinse them

[narrow temple]

cant you just switch to some other keycaps though

[narrow temple]

btw where can i find a review about the keyboard?

[uneven shuttle]

Yeah they're standard cherry mx stems

https://www.inet.se/produkt/6100606/deltaco-gaming-tangentbord-mekaniskt-rgb-60-content-red

uhh wait that's in swedish sorry

[narrow temple]

wait i didnt notice i was using a deltaco offic keyboard

thats alr

[uneven shuttle]

It's very easy to disassemble, the screws are on the underside as opposed to underneath the keycaps

Also don't bother with their software it's pretty worthless

[narrow temple]

i wont

i dont really rgb in the keyboard

[viscid tapir]

Which keyboard would you recommend then i like the design of k2 more than v1

For about the same price tactile wired or wireless i prefer wired

[narrow temple]

well okay thank you

[viscid tapir]

Would k2 be the best choice for oem or any other like k8

[viscid tapir]

I was gonna get v1 but v1 has that key design which i am so not a fan of and the spread out keys

[zenith swallow]

costs too much in canada

[eternal wraith]

how much?

[zenith swallow]

$130

[eternal wraith]

130 cad?

[zenith swallow]

rk61 is $55 ~sale

yeah

[eternal wraith]

id still go with the v4

[zenith swallow]

and its not white :>

[eternal wraith]

rk boards are not good

paint :]

[viscid tapir]

what would be better keychron akko rk for the same price

looking for a keyboard with oem keycaps

[unkempt dome]

Perosnally i would go akko

But they don't have oem profile keycaps ... it's mostly asa or cherry

[glossy sandal]

oem is very similar to cherry

just taller

[unkempt dome]

indeed ... and I don't like either

[glossy sandal]

I like both

cherry a bit more

[distant frost]

cherry poggers

oem doesn't look as nice imo

[unkempt dome]

cherry is probably the profile I like the least of those I tried

[distant frost]

hmm, you a dsa fan or something?

[glossy sandal]

probably uniform profile fan im guessing

[distant frost]

dsa do be a uniform profile

[unkempt dome]

dsa and xda

[glossy sandal]

that’s a yes then

[distant frost]

noice, I don't like how small the touch surface is on DSA, but XDA is a great time

[glossy sandal]

have you experimented with other layouts?

Since it’s a uniform profile

[unkempt dome]

not really

I just like the feel of them

[glossy sandal]

I don’t really like scooped keys so same

cherry is my thing

[unkempt dome]

I only have one keyboard that came with cherry profile

[distant frost]

cherry supremacy

[glossy sandal]

I’ve been meaning to salvage an old board for cherry caps

[unkempt dome]

used it for quite some time just to try to like them

[glossy sandal]

would be good fun

[distant frost]

all the cherry profile I own are GMK sets

[glossy sandal]

I own some cheaper ones and like 3 sets of cherry

And like 2 sets of keychron oem

[distant frost]

keychron making some cool colorways now, and some fancy boards

[glossy sandal]

I like their new keycaps

Though I don’t enjoy scooped keys I like how they sound on the new keychrons

They’re mediocre compared to standalone keycaps but they’re pretty good for prebuilt keycaps

[distant frost]

yeah fair.

[glossy sandal]

there’s also my personal nuance of not liking centered keycaps

[distant frost]

what do you mean centered

[glossy sandal]

oh sorry centered legends

[distant frost]

oh yeah, centered legends really gross, even on spherical profiles like SA or DSA

[glossy sandal]

Too loud for me

much prefer the simplicity of top left

[jade mirage]

Is it easy to foam a ducky keyboard?

[glossy sandal]

I’m unsure

you’ll wanna check out a disassembly guide for your board and go from there

[viscid tapir]

do they not have similar to redragon like very square flat ones

[viscid tapir]

i actually like akko but none hot swappable are ever in stock

[unkempt dome]

redragon use oem profile from what I know

[viscid tapir]

i thought akko has eom like redragon

[unkempt dome]

no they have asa, asa low and cherry

[viscid tapir]

i have messaged keychron to uncancel my order i will try theirs from V1 rather than K2 ones and see how it is

[eager lake]

I really like this keyboard

[chilly perch]

Sammy

[boreal rivet]

buttermilk chicken enjoyer 👌

[glossy sandal]

the bun is floating

[pine musk]

second pic is old

[dim wasp]

hey I'm working on my first custom board, I need something to transmit my keyboard wirelessly, preferably able to interface with data positive and negative from usb 2

[chrome raft]

is the keychron k14 good for just productive work

[opal whale]

what would be a similar alternative to logitech g500s? something similar in terms of weight class which is 170g with adjustable weights, preferably above 147g

[wind oyster]

Hi does anyone have any good budget recommendations for a wireless low profile mechanical keyboard that isn’t like keychron for example? Like it can be below $50 if that exists.

Or are all low profile keyboard under $50 wired

[still moat]

So I got my cheap little $30 CAD mechanical keyboard.

It's 60% size with blue switches that I don't recognize

They feel fine and got the click

[unkempt dome]

save more money ... you'll have a hard time finding anything good and low profile for that price ...
the only ones I think about are from nuphy ... you can check them out if you want, but they are more than 50$

[unkempt dome]

well that's normal, blue switches are made do click ... usually the brand is written on the top casing so you can check there if there's somethin written / molded / engraved

[peak pelican]

i need a keycap set for 61% that is cheap any recommendations?

[still moat]

Ok so these switches are Jixian

Those any good?

[fluid flare]

🤨 ooof i just brought an super cheap keyboard mouse combo since my old keyboard was broken and i dont wanna buy batterys every 3 days for my spare one and dang the quality is worse as oem e-waste periphals

[unkempt dome]

no idea, never heard of that brand ...

[fluid flare]

🤨 its prob as good as my old one which broke the switches were dunno which brand but super cheap well at least not terrible

[still moat]

This is the keybaord I bought https://www.amazon.ca/Portable-Mechanical-Keyboard-MageGee-Backlit/dp/B092CHWH1D

It was on sale last week for like $29CAD

I got it now, it's full mechanical with these Jixian blue keys

Feel like Cherry Blues, but the click is higher pitched

The LEDs are only in light blue, and I can cycle between a handful of effects.

Each key in individually lit

[fluid flare]

it prob flexes like crazy?

[still moat]

Actually no, it's solid

[fluid flare]

🤨

[still moat]

It's thick though

[fluid flare]

well not all cheap china keyboards are bad

[still moat]

That's probably why

The outer plastic casing is deep and thick

[fluid flare]

well i ordered some 40bucks keyboard on aliexpress as well ^^ all plastic caseing but full blown rgb even the clear case glows and got hotswap keys lol

and like all the reviews i saw it seems with some small mods an prety great keyboard

but dang i hope it arives soon using membran sucks realy hard

[glossy sandal]

Wormier board?

[glossy sandal]

Jixians are pretty much an outemu clone

I have some, they work, they sure are a switch

[fluid flare]

yeah the womir wk61

[glossy sandal]

Knew it

It doesn’t flex much, it’s a tray mount

[fluid flare]

🤔 i ordered some outemu green/teal's? as well

[glossy sandal]

I don’t really buy outemu switches

Not much of a upgrade

[fluid flare]

they only had the purple variant with browns or blues only reds

and i hate reds

[glossy sandal]

So you wanted a heavy tactile

decent

[fluid flare]

the greens i ordered use an higher force to activate

i wanted that feel and clickyness as well as harder to press basicly

[glossy sandal]

thy aren’t clicky

I don’t think

They’re tactile

[glossy sandal]

How much did you buy them for?

[fluid flare]

and i have as backup the ones from my dead board as well, i need to desooder em tho

[fluid flare]

70for 12bucks

[still moat]

My main keyboard is still my G513 with brown switches

[fluid flare]

kalih or gaterons would be double the price

[glossy sandal]

Decent

[fluid flare]

its more like 20 bucks for 35

[still moat]

This G513 has Kalih browns

[fluid flare]

so i thought im trying the greens first and if i dont like it i get my soldering iron and revome the blues on my old broken one

since the pcb is dead the switches should be still fine

🤔 well since im bored and have to much time i may grease* the outemu greens

[glossy sandal]

grease?

[fluid flare]

but one thing is for sure i hate red switches no matter what brand

some bad ones almost feel like theese fake mecha membran

[glossy sandal]

so you just don’t like light linears

[fluid flare]

nope ^^ ooof i still remember the sharkoon skiller mech i had it had kalih reds they were so senstive i needed to lightly touch em and an key stroke got registered

[glossy sandal]

@fluid flare

[fluid flare]

🤔 like if you are used to clicky blues and like it you will never wanna touch other type of switches again

[fluid flare]

yes i corrected it?

[glossy sandal]

grease

Like dielectric grease?

[fluid flare]

yeah some key switch grease dunno if prob some cheap ones

[glossy sandal]

Don’t use dielectric grease btw

it’s way too thick

it’ll make your switches sluggish

[fluid flare]

🤷‍♂️ im a starter with cheap switches im not gonna get like 20bucks the tube grease

like more like key greasing starter kit grade where all you need is in an amazon 15bucks bundle

🤔 well i think one mod on the wk61 i ordered will prob be easy

stabilizer i think its one of the easiest mods

[unkempt dome]

dielectric grease can and most likely will prevent click jacket switches from clicking due to it's thickness ...

[fluid flare]

🤔 hmmm then i prob wont but i will needa grease the stabilizer most likely i dont want clickyness but no rattle

i mean its a spacebar and not a (rattle)snakebar

[latent blaze]

you want to use lube like krytox 205g0 or tribosis 3204 3203

also you really dont need to lube clickies, in fact I recommend against it personally

unless you are doinga l light layer just on the rails or something

[unkempt dome]

even 205g0 will be too thick for click jacket ... you really have to barely put any on them or else the click will just be muted af or non existent

[latent blaze]

yah

[unkempt dome]

I would probably try gpl105 for click jacket switches

[latent blaze]

or something like trybosis 3203

[unkempt dome]

indeed

[latent blaze]

though as long as they arent super scratchy or pingy you probably dont even need to spend all that time lubing them in the first place

[unkempt dome]

I usually don't bother with lubing switches

[fluid flare]

🤔 well i just want the best quality keyboard thats sub 100 bucks but since i dont like spending tons of money on peripherals

[neat pivot]

you ever get this? i’m thinking about getting this same keyboard

[placid lantern]

i just got one free from a friend

despite peoples dislike for razer the keyboard is actually pretty okay

the sound is kinda bad though

[neat pivot]

im probably gonna pick up the purple switch version instead of the analog version

[placid lantern]

the rgb software is actually kinda cool too

idk why people bad mouth it so much

[placid lantern]

is it the v2 or no?

[neat pivot]

yea it's still the v2 but it doesnt have analog switches im pretty sure

which people seem to hate the analog switches so

[placid lantern]

among the keyboard enthusiast community people seem to have a dislike for razer, which i experienced much lecturing about how bad razer is

[placid lantern]

ok well the v2s have sound dampening and stuff so it would probably sound much better. you should also go find reviews on youtube or something and look for any complaints people have had

[neat pivot]

picking it up. ebay has a refurbished deal for them at $74

[placid lantern]

alrighty cool

[opal whale]

??

[glossy sandal]

idk 💀

this is a keyboard chat, idk anything about mice

[opal whale]

haha ur right sry but i assume keyboard also includes computer peripherals or accessories

[glossy sandal]

I would ask in #tech-chat-1

That’s a really heavy mouse though

rhat you’re looking for

[opal whale]

i used to use a something around 110g mouse but then i switch something with around 70, then i realized my aim was shaky and off, ik the trend nowadays is to get the lightest mouse possible or even wireless with low latency but im a skinny guy and i have a skinny arms and hands thats why i needed a heavy mouse for more stability for me personally

[glossy sandal]

Yeah I understand, I use a basilisk for the shape but I also really like the weight on it

extremely light mice aren’t my thing

especially since I don’t need all that glide, seeing as I play on 8-16k dpi

[opal whale]

i see

[fluid igloo]

What the

[glossy sandal]

problm?

[latent blaze]

Do you at least put game sensitivity way down?

[opal whale]

absolutely ye

[latent blaze]

makes sense then

technically more accurate polling or somethin that way right

[opal whale]

theres more accurate polling? or did u mean higher polling rate?

[latent blaze]

It wouldnt change polling rate becz it doesnt get changed by dpi, it would be more accurate because it would actually communicate slight movements with the pc whereas low dpi just wouldn’t acknowledge a super small movement

at least thats how i understand it

not a really noticable difference regardless

[glossy sandal]

I play most games at like

.45-.60

so make of that what you will

[opal whale]

i thought dpi doesnt matter tho according to linus but i guess what u meant is that u think i should get a higher dpi mouse or something?

[latent blaze]

you should never buy a mouse based on dpi, it makes no real world difference its just a thing where i think technically theoretically it would be slightly more responsive to have dpi on max and in game sens on low instead of ingame sens on normal and dpi on normal

[opal whale]

oh i see gotcha, thats an interesting insight

[latent blaze]

the mouse skates, deskpad material, weight, sensor and switches make a MUCH bigger difference than dpi could ever dream of making so pay attention to that

[opal whale]

ye thats true, i am looking at those instead of high dpi numbers that most high end mouse are trying to advertise these days

[latent blaze]

yep

keep in mind shape and size and how it relates to the size of your hand

[tame arrow]

anyone know some different keycaps for the RK ROYAL KLUDGE RK61

or anwhere to buy keycaps in australia

[deep charm]

I’ve never built a keyboard before & was wondering if this channel was an appropriate place to ask questions?

[glossy sandal]

yup

[eternal wraith]

i mean, there aren't many other keyboard channels here so yeah

ask away

[glossy sandal]

ooh frey you got this?

I’m kinda busy rn

[eternal wraith]

you responded first

but ight

i can take over

[glossy sandal]

nah

you got it

[eternal wraith]

[deep charm]

I was wondering if these were compatible: https://kbdfans.com/collections/pcb/products/dz60rgb-hot-swap-custom-keyboard-pcb https://kbdfans.com/collections/case/products/60-bamboo-case?_pos=4&_fid=f00153ab7&_ss=c

[eternal wraith]

yep

[glossy sandal]

Yep

[eternal wraith]

same mounting posts

[deep charm]

Ooh yay

[glossy sandal]

btw you still need a plate

[eternal wraith]

ye

[deep charm]

My 2nd & last question is: does this only come with the 1 wire? https://kbdfans.com/products/gmk-screw-in-stabilizers Other stabilizers specify that they come with 60

[glossy sandal]

Don’t buy these

[deep charm]

https://kbdfans.com/products/60-pc-material-plate is the plate I chose

[deep charm]

Stabilizers?

[glossy sandal]

No just these specific ones

[eternal wraith]

don't buy that, that's JUST the wire

and yeah

gmk stabs are bad

[glossy sandal]

Check out tx

okay bai Frey

[eternal wraith]

cya gas

[deep charm]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-stabilizer/products/cherry-screw-in-stabilizer and https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-stabilizer/products/cherry-original-pcb-stabilizers are the other 2 compatible stabilizers they list on the PCB’s page. Are they also bad?

[glossy sandal]

Cherry clip ins gud

[eternal wraith]

clip-ins good but that's a lot for em

[glossy sandal]

where are you based?

[deep charm]

Ooh really?! How much do they normally go for?

[glossy sandal]

Cents

[deep charm]

🇨🇦

[glossy sandal]

Ashkeebs stocks tx stabs I’m pretty sure

[eternal wraith]

this is usd i think

[deep charm]

Oh so even more expensive

[deep charm]

Is Ashkeebs a website?

[eternal wraith]

yeah, 15 cad for em is a reasonable price for cherry clipins

and yeh

[glossy sandal]

https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/tx-stabilizers-rev-3/

[deep charm]

Thank you!

[eternal wraith]

ashkeebs is a site

[glossy sandal]

Yep

Canadian vendor

[deep charm]

Oh sick

[glossy sandal]

You’ll wanna get 6.25u 1.6mm

[eternal wraith]

gas i thought you were busy

stop procrastinating

[glossy sandal]

sorry

It’s 0154

[deep charm]

I think the TX stabilizers are out of stock

[glossy sandal]

I’m busy but not really

Here ya go

https://minokeys.com/collections/tools/products/tx-stabilizers

Another Canadian vendor

would also get switches from here to save on shipping

black/white doesn’t matter

[deep charm]

Are all switches and all key caps compatible? Assuming I go with popular brands for switches like gateron/cherry

[glossy sandal]

If the keycap has an mx stem and the switch is an mx style switch

They will work

[eternal wraith]

okay i'll just go then

[glossy sandal]

nooo

[eternal wraith]

gas seems to be doing fine

[glossy sandal]

Frey I have to go soon

stay

[eternal wraith]

[deep charm]

The cross lookin stem right?

[eternal wraith]

yuh

[glossy sandal]

mhm

[deep charm]

Awesome! Thank you both so much!

[eternal wraith]

gas carried

[obtuse hound]

would be a fun series to do the diy split ergo mech keyboard builds https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/

*edit: sorry plouffe missed the rule on pinging staff

[eternal wraith]

pretty sure you can't just randomly ping LMG staff

[delicate hazel]

Is the Steelseries Apex Pro TKL worth it? If not do you guys have any recommendations? Gonna use it mostly for gaming

[eternal wraith]

only gaming keyboards i would personally endorse would be the wooting boards

since they have features which are actively beneficial in gaming scenarios that most, if not all gaming keyboards lack

specifically analog mode

but, i'm afraid tkl is not in stock atm

[obtuse hound]

rip i missed that rule, thanks for letting me know

[eternal wraith]

okay

np

[delicate hazel]

What's a wooing board?

[ionic briar]

Wooting is a Netherland based keyboard brand

[eternal wraith]

^

[ionic briar]

https://next.wooting.io/

[deep charm]

Analog keyboard?

[fluid igloo]

Lekker switch lol

[dusk cairn]

Has anyone here got a Higround keeb?

[ionic briar]

Yes

Traditionally cherry switch are considered to be digital.
Their construction in principle is just like your light switch, there are only 2 states: on or off

Wooting uses switches that operate using the hall effect
It allows then to precisely track the exact position of the switch, thus analog capable

[torn birch]

osu! cheater board

[chilly perch]

how cheater

[humble stream]

not sure if anyone would be able to help me with this but I am planning on moving my pc around 15ft away from my set up however I have a keyboard that uses a micro usb cable. If I bought a 15-20ft micro usb cable would that cause any latency issues with the keyboard?

[glossy sandal]

probably not

I use a usb hub which is like 10 ft

which is connected to my keyboard(s)

I don’t feel any noticeable latency

[humble stream]

hmm alright I play valorant somewhat competitively so just wanted to make sure there was very minimal latency ty for ur help @glossy sandal

[glossy sandal]

[turbid kayak]

Guys what switches does the hp gk100 have?

[glossy sandal]

Blue switches

aka clickys

[queen mesa]

custom case keeb

[urban panther]

Hydro dipped?

[queen mesa]

yessir

i went for a marble look

[urban panther]

Looks clean

Gonna get a matching wrist rest?

[queen mesa]

nah, I would want a wooden wrist rest to fit the rest of my setup

\

[open crow]

What keeb?

[queen mesa]

heavily modded budget havit keyboard

iirc it was like 20$

[open crow]

O alr

What switches?

[queen mesa]

kailh reds

lubed with 205g0

[open crow]

Nice

What stabilizers?

[queen mesa]

ty

[queen mesa]

durock v2 holee bandaid and vaseline modded

[open crow]

Nice

Soundtest?

[queen mesa]

total keeb was like 50$

ill get it

its rlly quiet mb

[normal fiber]

are wooting keyboards worth?

my eye is on their HE full size

60 feels weird

[vernal venture]

Why no love for the AEK64 in the Mac Keyboard video?

[boreal rivet]

Based

Also because plouffe is your average keyboard enthusiast who’s stuck at the peak of the dunning Kruger curve and doesn’t really know shit

[sweet thunder]

Not wrong

Didn’t even mention clickiez

Alps leaves in mx switches

[boreal rivet]

Been thinking of getting some but at those prices I might as well buy actual alps

[unkempt dome]

Clickiez are really interesting ... but damn they are really not affordable

[boreal rivet]

Man this iPhone autocorrect is starting to get annoying

[sweet thunder]

To be fair it’s the only switch from zeal worth its price sorta

[boreal rivet]

True

[sweet thunder]

Plouffe is a little better in some ways

I don’t think he’s as far up cherry mx’s ass as most

[undone cypress]

best hot swappable full size keyboard??

[glossy sandal]

be more specific

please

[boreal rivet]

I feel like that’s just because he’s pretty much an amateur in the hobby, he’ll get peer pressured into it eventually.

[sweet thunder]

Keychron Q6 I guess

[deep charm]

Does anyone know of a site that sells 100% mechanical keyboard parts? I love my 100% keyboard & don’t want to give up my numpad or the nice space that comes with it

[undone cypress]

My friend wants a new 100% keyboard. Right now he’s using an ancient corsair k70 and it’s super loud. I want to build him his first keyboard and surprise him with it as a gift.

[glossy sandal]

i meant more specific as in what does "best" mean

[undone cypress]

IDK tbh maybe reliability and build quality

[boreal rivet]

Realforce

R1 casing isn’t exactly the highest quality but they are absolutely reliable

R2 and 3 probably has better cases

[undone cypress]

their god awful logo ruins the keyboard lol

[boreal rivet]

Looks good to me 🤷‍♂️

[past vortex]

"It is worth noting that the linear optical axis of RAZER has a very high consistency (95.58%), but the force increases too much when the corners are pressed (similar to the problem of Polestar's cyber axis)" 👀

[sweet thunder]

Yeah that’s called binding

[boreal rivet]

Makes sense, the bloody switches felt pretty wobbly

[wide vale]

Hey! I need help in upgrading my keyboard, I currently use G915 , but I want a new one which uses Type-C, any suggestions?

[glossy sandal]

type c what

type c to the pc or type c from the keyboard

[wide vale]

charge the keyboard using a type c

my g915 uses a microusb charger

[glossy sandal]

so you want a wireless keyboard

which uses a type c connection

[wide vale]

yes

[glossy sandal]

size?

[wide vale]

not TKL because i need the numpad

[glossy sandal]

so full size

[wide vale]

yes

[glossy sandal]

budget?

[wide vale]

dont think i have

i dont have a limit so give me the best hahah

[glossy sandal]

do you mind waiting?

[wide vale]

yeah

[glossy sandal]

or do you want it asap

[wide vale]

dont mind waiting

[glossy sandal]

when i say wait

i mean wait

a while

[wide vale]

a year? sure i can wait

[glossy sandal]

like months to years

oh okeah then

[wide vale]

my keyboard works perfectly

[molten trail]

Anyone else just type with their wang?

[glossy sandal]

wang?

[glossy sandal]

you mind 1800?

and does it have to be wired?

[wide vale]

1800 usd?

[glossy sandal]

i do not

[molten trail]

Wait hang on

[glossy sandal]

1800 form factor

[wide vale]

i prefer wireless

[wide vale]

not sure whats that

[glossy sandal]

so it isn't a requirement

[molten trail]

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/alienware-low-profile-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-aw510k-us-int-qwerty/apd/545-bbcl/pc-accessories

That is my keyboard

I like that one

[glossy sandal]

ive tried this

[molten trail]

I like how low profile it is

[glossy sandal]

the low profile switches are fun, but they get annoying after a while

[molten trail]

They're not for everyone

[glossy sandal]

yeha i dont like reduced travel that much

[molten trail]

My whole setup is Alienware so I thought I would continue the theme

[wide vale]

yeah i will go with 100% full size

[glossy sandal]

especially when it's that much like in a low profile switch

[glossy sandal]

so again, is it a requirement?

[wide vale]

yes

[glossy sandal]

okau

[wide vale]

sorry for my english also , english isnt my native

[glossy sandal]

it's fine

do you mind pink or blue colors?

[wide vale]

pink would be great!

[glossy sandal]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/one-piece-wano-country-5108b-mechanical-keyboard/

[wide vale]

i dont mind also white/blac

woah

[glossy sandal]

there's also purple

https://en.akkogear.com/product/kuromi-5108b-plus-mechanical-keyboard/

[molten trail]

My keyboard on my Alienware laptop

[glossy sandal]

personally i don't like it but im glad you do

[wide vale]

the pink one looks good, why did you ask me if i can wait? because it takes time to ship?

[glossy sandal]

no

[molten trail]

Purple looks very pretty

[glossy sandal]

because there could be upcoming group buy keyboards that would take a lot of time to fufill

[wide vale]

oh

[glossy sandal]

but i skimmed a little and didn't find anything that fit the criteria

[wide vale]

which one to choose

[glossy sandal]

btw, this might be on amazon if you wanna save on shipping

[molten trail]

You get 15% off your order when you sign up to their newsletter!!

[glossy sandal]

one is tactile and one is linear

id say linear is probably the most inoffensive type of switch so go for that (jelly pink)

[wide vale]

col

cool

[glossy sandal]

this also is hotswappable so if you have any personal nuances with the switches being too light or whatever, you can swap them out

[wide vale]

nice, not sure im gonna do that cuz im afraid to ruin it haha

[glossy sandal]

you just use the included switch puller but i guess you dont need to worry about that now

[glossy sandal]

like ares suggested, keychron q6 is a solid move

keychron q series is pretty sturdy, i built one and it didn't have any reliability issues, and if there is keychron stuff is pretty easy to return

[undone cypress]

Perfect

[glossy sandal]

do keep in mind it's wired only

did you need it to be wireless?

[wide vale]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/jk-girl-5108s-mechanical-keyboard/
hows this? or the one you showed me is better?

[glossy sandal]

this isn't wireless

[wide vale]

oh

[boreal rivet]

I love Wangs

Wangs 👌 https://deskthority.net/wiki/Wang_725-3770

[pseudo kiln]

Hello, new to looking at Keyboards.
I'm coming an all-Mac history with their great but membrane based keyboards, to a Logitech MX Keys,
and I was really happy with it. Until a friend came along and lent me his 122 key Model M, and I fell in love with the feel.

So I started looking and then i realised wow, the world of keyboards is massive, and maybe Plouffe was onto something.

So now that I know there are options, I thought why not go for the best! I think I've narrowed down what I want to:
96% layout (more mouse room)
wireless
backlit
mechanical (as close to buckling spring as possible)
preferably with numpad
reprogrammable and moveable keys like with Via
and slim. (avoid use of a wrist rest (wrest?))

I've found the Keychron K4 V2 which fills almost all requirements, except for the slim factor.
I notice their slim keyboards don't include a 96% layout, like the K4V2.

Does anybody have suggestions?

TL;DR: Wanting suggestions for slim, wireless, backlit, 96% layout mechanical keeb

PS. Feel free to ping me, otherwise I won't see it

[untold orchid]

Get a switch tester

Ofc it wont give the exact same feel as it would on your board

But helps a lot with choosing

[pseudo kiln]

oh that's ok, I'm pretty sure I'll end up with Blue switches,
I'm mainly looking for the actual board at this point.

[untold orchid]

"Blue switches" yeah just get the tester lol

If you like clicky there are so much better options than cherry/gateron blues

[pseudo kiln]

oh ok! Hadn't really considered, that, thanks!

[urban panther]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-cs-snow-blue-gray-switch-45pcs/

These seem interesting

[tender basin]

What's better the drop entr or the keychrone 2k?

[glossy sandal]

I think clickiez may fit the bill for switches

Of course if budget isn’t an issue

[chrome raft]

opinions on oil kings?

[open crow]

Mweh

Mweh they could use some lube

[chrome raft]

ok i’ll live them ig lol

lube*

[open crow]

Alr

[chrome raft]

so i have k2 but i can’t tell if i should get a new case it’s a little ping’e

[glossy sandal]

Decently priced

They also use diff top housings so it doesn’t matter which orientation you have them in, they won’t have any cherry profile interference

[chrome raft]

ye

[glossy sandal]

Other than that, polished stem is pretty cool

The factory lubing is kinda a hit or miss though so it’d be better to just lube them all

[chrome raft]

i hear the bottom out force is way lower than spec too

it’s whatever

[glossy sandal]

The ones that are well factory lubed are great but there’s a ton of variations (atleast there was in my batch)

I cherry picked cause i wasn’t lubing

[chrome raft]

i hear a lot about gateron yellows i don’t really understand

[glossy sandal]

what about them?

[chrome raft]

like people really like them but they seem really similar to reds tbh

mby a little smother

[glossy sandal]

They’re literally reds

just different spring weight

[chrome raft]

ah ha

my friend has Tealio V2

chefs kiss

[glossy sandal]

I’ve heard some people talk about leaf ping with those

[open crow]

Mweh

[chrome raft]

i did idk still is

it’s whatever

[glossy sandal]

Spring ping?

Lube your switches

yeah?

It’s not like imma leave it

But I wouldn’t buy zeal switches anyway

Maybe just clickiez

fascinating discovery

[chrome raft]

lol

i wana try tangerines

meh

fair but they are pretty lmaoo

oki

ooo

that’s a good price

next purchase

[chrome raft]

o

sorry i had to walk lmao

[leaden folio]

How can i disable the G keys on a G613 - I cant install the software due to a locked down environment

i had to raise a ticket for the Microsoft mouse and keyboard center to be installed to turn off the silly buttons on the left side of the dock mouse they have me use in the office - my M600 f2 key died, so this g613 was a spare

maybe i'll go up to the local store and grab a cheap corded one if i cant stop miss hitting the G keys

[ember dove]

Ordered Akko cream yellow

Hopefully they’re the profile and sound I’m looking for

[open crow]

[glossy sandal]

[spark hatch]

are cream yellows new? dont think iv'e heard of them before

though I havent been paying nearly as much attention to keyboards as I had previously

[spark hatch]

ah gotcha

[warm orbit]

whats ur guys opinion on redragon k552

[glossy sandal]

keyboard/10

tray mount tkl, meh stabs, pretty bad keycaps, outemu sockets and switches.. I don’t think very highly of it

I would rather save up and buy something like a V3

[weary kraken]

Hey I'm trynna upgrade my keyboard and I found this website, is it any good? keep in mind i'm not trying to spend a fortune on a new gaming keyboard https://shopgalactica.com

[forest pebble]

So basically they sell an rk61 ?

[warm orbit]

its not even mine lol its my sister's
she goes to dorm so i can use it 5/7 days

whats the closest thing to "good and cheap"

[exotic sun]

alright i think i am finally getting sick of my mecha membrane razer ornata v2

[glossy sandal]

The click isn’t as cooo anymore ?

[exotic sun]

yeah, also TKL is causing a lot of hand strain for me

[glossy sandal]

You might like 75

[stoic tangle]

I Stan 75 %

[exotic sun]

75% looks great but i am scared that if i do build a custom keeb i will get sucked into the hobby

[glossy sandal]

Oh hi selix

[glossy sandal]

Do it

[chrome raft]

i want to swap my stabs, i’m thinking novelkey cherry plate mounts. anything else i should consider?

[stoic tangle]

Hello!

[stoic tangle]

There's a 75% chance of that happening

Just buy it and never look online again, it's all temptations

[glossy sandal]

Meh

really subpar board

I would buy a gas67 instea

[glossy sandal]

Durock plate mounts are decent, so are cherry plate mounts

It’s cheaper

It’s like 27$ lmao

aliexpress

[exotic sun]

say that directly to the 0 euro and 0 cents in my banking account lmao

[exotic sun]

cheap sketchy chinese sellers my love <3 (except now the import tax is so high that it makes no sense to import anything)

[glossy sandal]

it’s like the equivalent of Asian Amazon

[glossy sandal]

how much is import??

[exotic sun]

20% vat plus however much sometimes gets added on (i dont remember how much exactly but it was enough to the point where i dont import basically anything from outside the EU anymore)

[glossy sandal]

Interesting

[stoic tangle]

Seconded

Asides from unfortunate import

[chrome raft]

k2 hotswap sry

[chrome raft]

kk

[indigo beacon]

Guys, I’m looking for a solid mouse, for WoW any suggestions?

Unlimited tbh

I’ would love a mouse with like 4-6 buttons on the side

If that’s even a thing 😅

[urban panther]

Naga pro, Scimitar Elite

[bronze finch]

Does anyone by any chance have the firmware file for the Corsair K70 RGB MK2?

[rocky galleon]

Guys

Is there a difference between the apex pro tkl and apex pro mini

Other than the size

[sweet thunder]

Don’t think so

Probably should just get a wooting

[knotty vector]

does anyone know a somoewhat good but buget tkl mechcanical keyboard?

https://shopgalactica.com/products/keyboard-galactica-60-mechanical-keyboard?variant=42704140697767
i found this one that i like but its 60% and i do want function row

[eager lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/674238284762841089/1037663276387012658/IMG_0564.jpg?width=1185&height=889

Took me two hours to replace all the springs

I love sprit's springs

[knotty vector]

altough it isnt 80% i do like the x79

[crystal gorge]

A lot of people recommend the keychron boards but are they actually good for gaming? I don’t do comp fps but I still want low latency

I was looking at getting the k8 with the linears unless there is a better 3rd party switch that’s not super expensive

[stoic tangle]

Gaming improvements are exaggerated really, no keyboard will make it better. Anything with a cable or 2.4ghz reciever has good latency. Keychrons still recommended as an easy to pick up brand of boards
That being said 3rd party switches can definitely feel and sound better in general if you're interested

[valid sigil]

Would anyone be able to recommend a good keyboard? Here is the list of features I'm looking for:
*low profile design - LP keycaps and switches
*linear illuminated switches (RGB is preferable, otherwise plain white LED's are fine)
*full double-shot keycaps, no pad printing (must NOT have hollow cross-form if cherry stems)
*standard bottom row
*full size standard layout

[eager lake]

Closest I can think of is this

https://www.logitechg.com/en-my/products/gaming-keyboards/g913-low-profile-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html

Otherwise, gotta build one yourself like I did

[valid sigil]

Where would I start? Where do I shop for the parts I'm looking for? I know it'll be expensive but it would be something that I intend to use for a loooong time.

[eager lake]

There are servers in which you can join. I'm in the KBDfans server, you can check for stuff there.

For myself, I built a 12x5 preonic

Acrylic preonic set

• preonic V3 pcb
• brushed aluminium top plate
• screws
• acrylic case

Kailh box white switches

• 205g0
• 1.0mm steel balls in well
• sprit design 50g springs for box switches

Additional modifications

• preonic foam from taobao above the pcb
• foam for dampening below the pcb
• my own usb-c cable
• durock gold-plated clear stabilizer for spacebar (with 205g0)

Keycaps

• XDA keycaps from pimpmykeyboard
• ordered a gb of ePBT superstar in Q1 (arriving in Q2,Q3 2023)

[valid sigil]

I'll check it out. Thank you for the help! 👍

[eager lake]

It can be a rabbit hole if you're not careful, especially the keycaps which may cost hundreds per set. But non-clone keycaps usually have impeccable quality.

[crystal gorge]

Thanks man and yeah I would be interested in 3rd parties I just don’t have a whole lot to spend atm

[eager lake]

Oh, and also https://keyboard.university

[stoic tangle]

Well if you want best smoothness at the lowest budget, gateron milky yellow pros are 27 cents each I think

But there are better ones at higher prices

[latent blaze]

Keychron k5?

Keychrons included reds are pretty solid, no need to switch swap imo esp if on a budget

[valid sigil]

That looks like a great keyboard! I'll have to get aftermarket keycaps from Pulsar. The pulsar low profile keycaps, at least from the pictures, look like they are made well.

[latent blaze]

keychrons are great

[valid sigil]

What's the software like? Is it easy to set the RGB lighting? ICUE crashes if you look at it funny...

[rancid rose]

Hello peeps need an opinion on what is a good, cheap 60% with removable switches and wireless (something like a rk61)

[sonic cape]

anyone could double check that this pcb will fit this plate?

had issues before so just need someone to confirm it for me

[sweet thunder]

I mean yeah that plate looks like a standard 60 plate and the PCB looks like a standard 60 pcb

[glossy sandal]

That looks like a pcb mounted stabilizers holes for the pcb

I’m unsure if you’ll be able to use them just like that

Since those are stab cutouts on the plate

[sonic cape]

yeah I want to use pcb mount stabs

[glossy sandal]

btw why are you doing this like this

Why not buy a kit

[sonic cape]

Because kits have a single declared value

and thus you are forced to pay customs and fees

if you ship multiple pieces from multiple sellers the sellers usually declare smaller value and thus you pass customs without fees

its a bitch to pay customs on a 400usd kit

[boreal rivet]

the chinese usually underdeclare no matter what it is though

unless you arent buying from them

[sonic cape]

KDB fans doesnt

[boreal rivet]

hm they used lol

i guess

[sweet thunder]

Probably got caught

[sonic cape]

KDBfans love to value the full price and then you get slaped with customs

[sweet thunder]

Or someone snitched

[boreal rivet]

probs

[sonic cape]

Yeah they told me

that they have to do it

especially for Canada

since the knife and whatever ban here in 2019 all items are more chedcke

checked then ever before

especially metal etc

[sweet thunder]

CBSA is a dumb org

[sonic cape]

yeah im here only for studies

until christmas

then back to europe

already built 4 keyboard here, i should stop

but im bored as hell

[sweet thunder]

Europe isn’t much better for buying stuff

Arguably worse

[sonic cape]

in europe i usually use taobao

they have pretty clever routes via Wegobuy

[sweet thunder]

I thought taobao was only for China

[sonic cape]

you get to declare your own value and fuck customs

yeah I use middlemen

[sweet thunder]

Oh you’re using like a forwarder

Yeah

[sonic cape]

wegobuy or superbuy

they have very clever ways to screw customs

[sweet thunder]

Yeah if they get caught they just rename themselves probably lol

[sonic cape]

and Aliexpress has many warehouses in EU

so returns are smooth

and shipping is super easy

[boreal rivet]

how is the conversion rate for wegobuy?

[sonic cape]

what do you mean ?

[boreal rivet]

superbuy has ass conversion rates

like yuan to usd

[sonic cape]

its a bit cheaper

superbuy is a bit premium dont know for what reason

wegobuy is a clone but a bit cheaper

and you get to ship much more counterfeits

and items superbuy bans

[boreal rivet]

lmao

[sonic cape]

pandabuy is even better

theyre new though

i just use it for stuff i like but dont wanna pay retail for

like gmk clones or supreme accesories haha

[boreal rivet]

pandabuy looks pretty good

[sonic cape]

yeah they launched this year i think

and i heard the CS is good

but they emphasized that counterfeits are a think for them

like if you need to ship fake balenciaga

use them 😄

[crystal gorge]

I watched a short circuit and plouffe was talking ab gateron being p good.

[sonic cape]

I have oil kings and milky yellow

they are

milky yellows arent the best of the best

but oil kings are something else

[stoic tangle]

Milky yellows are the budget kings but yeah I've heard oil kings are worth it if you have the money

[glossy sandal]

g pro yellows are pretty good

having polishedr stems and all that

ks9s

[boreal rivet]

Imagine needing a forwarder for Taobao

[glossy sandal]

How so?

?

What makes the ks9 bad?

[crystal gorge]

The oil kings are like $60 through the keychron website. If I’ll never have to lube them like it says in the description then it’d be worth it imo

I’m new to keyboards but ik I don’t like clicky blues and the browns to me kinda feel like a membrane board

[glossy sandal]

Keychron is smoking crack

60$ is alof more than you should be paying for oil kings

[crystal gorge]

This is why I’m happy to have discord 😅

[covert elbow]

Would you spend 200 dollars on a keyboard

[glossy sandal]

Depending on how much you’re buying, it shouldn’t excede 70$

[glossy sandal]

I mean I’ve spent like 400$

So yeah

Or actually, I would spend more

[covert elbow]

like 3 years ago I got a apex pro

[glossy sandal]

cool

You’re satisfied with it

[crystal gorge]

It’s 110 switches but I only want a 70% keyboard

[covert elbow]

I also got an anne pro 2 like a year ago

[glossy sandal]

you don’t need all that then

You only need 90

Maybe even less

[crystal gorge]

Okay bet thank you

[covert elbow]

isnt 90 without num pad

[glossy sandal]

yeah

70% is about 81~ keys

I don’t remember specifics

Probably less

[glossy sandal]

70% doesn’t include a numpad

[glossy sandal]

btw, why oil kings?

They’re a fine switch, but why not something like gat pro yellows

[crystal gorge]

It was what selix had recommended earlier

[glossy sandal]

I mean they’re fine yeah, but do you want them?

[crystal gorge]

A better version of the milky yellows

[glossy sandal]

That’s not..

They’re two different things

Oil Kings are not upgraded milky yellows

[crystal gorge]

I have to watch videos on them tbh. Ik a lot ab computers and sound but peripheral‘s I am basically brand new to

[glossy sandal]

I feel like there’s a very sharp learning curve when it comes to keyboards

But after that initial first hurdle it gets a lot easier to digest

[crystal gorge]

I thought I would maybe start with milky yellows bc I searched around and that’s the most recommended linear that I have seen

And they aren’t too bad price wise

[glossy sandal]

They sure are a switch

I don’t really like them stock, they 99% need lube; but if you don’t wanna lube, pick up pro yellows

they’re same price point, only difference is they’re prelubed

same lube job as gateron oil kings

[stoic tangle]

Oh I wasn't trying to push the oil kings sorry, I was just agreeing with someone that oil kings are considered to be better than gateron yellows but they better be at the higher price ha.

There are several better switches if you have the money, I'm using gateron black ink v2s. Milky yellow pros are an amazing starting switch though, and you'll have a good comparison point

[crystal gorge]

Nice I’m going to watch some videos and prob order some tomorrow

I didn’t think you were pushing the oil kings I think I had just read it out of context lol

[stoic tangle]

My favorite keyboard YouTubers were Glasses and Hipyo tech, but there's more informative channels too

[forest pebble]

Personally i quite like the quality of AndyVNguyen content, shoobs stuff is nice too.

Though i find myself not watching that much keyboard related content on YT

[stoic tangle]

I like shoobs cursed builds, but yeah after seeing enough there isn't too much new. Mostly became background videos