peripherals

[glossy sandal]

Would you settle for black?

[cobalt eagle]

i made my final decision then

[zenith swallow]

i dont really mind if its black but most of my setup is white so i'd prefer it

[cobalt eagle]

im getting the MSI Vigor GK50

[glossy sandal]

you can get a keychron v3

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v3-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40256628490329

[latent blaze]

https://kprepublic.com/products/womier-87-k87-mechanical-keyboard-80-87-tkl-pcb-case-hot-swappable-switch-rgb

this an option

[zenith swallow]

:o white :)

damn thats nice

any rgb?

[glossy sandal]

Do note that Kprepublic has 30-45 day shipping

[zenith swallow]

ye there is nvm

[glossy sandal]

What’s wrong with rgb?

[zenith swallow]

na im good with rgb

[latent blaze]

true but depends, dont know how it is to cad tho

[zenith swallow]

just said nvm cuz i checked it rn

[glossy sandal]

probably even worse LOL

Get stuck in customs for like a couple days

[zenith swallow]

btw where do you guys get keycaps from?

[latent blaze]

theres also the ducky one 3 but its 110USD

[glossy sandal]

My next set will probably be gmk

[latent blaze]

usually aliexpress

[glossy sandal]

But as of now I’m typing on 21kb green Cyrillic

[latent blaze]

divinikey is nice too

[zenith swallow]

the gmmk is 50% off rn

[glossy sandal]

for a reason lol

it’s kinda bad compared to everything out rn

[zenith swallow]

rlly?

[glossy sandal]

yeah

[zenith swallow]

been some time since i checked out keyboards lol

been lookin at hardware since i just built my first pc recently

[glossy sandal]

I can probably guarantee you won’t hate the keychron

[latent blaze]

keychron v3 is great

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=5679 if you stumble upon an extra 20$ this is great, again though, the keychron will not disappoint

also white

[loud nova]

Keychron are basically king of the bfyb hill

[robust lake]

is there any good keyboards that are cheap, preferably 15$usd

[glossy sandal]

objectively good?

no

buy an office keyboard and stack your bread

or buy a used cheap one

idk who would sell one though

[robust lake]

does lenovo have office keyboards that arent there laptops

[glossy sandal]

Buy an mk270 or something lol

[wild sundial]

most office places have a ewaste pile/box/room tbh most of the things in there is perfectly usable if u want something for free (if they allow it) got hundreds of gigs of old ddr3/4 ram out of old work stations being phased out at my old firm and since it's going to a ewaste recycler anyways they didn't mind me taking the ram lol

[glossy sandal]

you could go to a recycling center or similar yeah.

[wild sundial]

no hdd/ssd storage tho which is understandable for data security

sorta unfortunate since that would have been free 50+ tb of storage for my nas

[glossy sandal]

By preferably do you mean you can spend more?

[robust lake]

i could but i have 15$ usd rn but my keyboard doesnt work some times

[wild sundial]

if ur in the us and can stretch ur budget by 5 u can pick up brand new ones

https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards.html?filters=price_0-20

[glossy sandal]

yeah that’s what I suggested, a mk270

That’s about the most common office keyboard I know of

you could probably find a functional one at a secondhand store though.

[wild sundial]

lowkey might have a few keyboards I can actually just mail over for free lol

shipping stuff out tomorrow anyways so I could actually

[glossy sandal]

[opaque shard]

Sometimes I don't understand the appeal of expensive traditional keyboards

Traditional keyboards are just fundamentally poorly designed, and the expensive ones just wrap that in a nice plastic

[boreal rivet]

Clout, sound(lol) and familiarity with traditional layouts

[opaque shard]

Yeah, I suppose people just don't want to learn how to use more efficient designs

Which is fine I guess, but at that point I'd just get whatever is cheap I think

[boreal rivet]

well how good a keyboard is isn't simply defined by the layout

[pulsar folio]

how good it is, and how good it feels are also two different things 🙂 many variables here, both objectively and subjectively

though most of these variables are pretty nerdy, so not relevant for the "average joe" 😛

[boreal rivet]

why did you assume I meant that?

[pulsar folio]

I didn't assume anything

I just elaborated on your message with my personal experience with keyboards ^^

you quite simply meant that a keyboard's quality isn't defined by the layout 😛

[boreal rivet]

indeed, your message sounded like you assumed I meant feel also affects quality and tried to correct me on it

[pulsar folio]

no no, there was nothing to correct

I just elaborated with some things to consider when you want to determine whether a keyboard is good or not, for you(r use case) ^^

[boreal rivet]

👍

[pulsar folio]

the only thing important with layout is probably ergonomics, other than that it's all preference

[cosmic fox]

speaking of layouts, I really don't understand the appeal of these cut down keyboards, if I was making a custom keyboard, I'd be adding keys not removing them

[untold orchid]

mouse space

and also macropads exist

and ofc aesthetics as well

Like here's how I have them

[cosmic fox]

mouse space? is that just because the desk is also too small?

[untold orchid]

no, its that you dont have to spread your hands to have the same amount of space, you aim better with your hands closer to each other and also its more ergonomic

but for people that dont game its more about the aesthetics

[cosmic fox]

at work I have my elbows on the desk and the full size keyboard is so far from the mouse that you could fit a TKL in between

[untold orchid]

that sounds awful

[cosmic fox]

it's actually relaxing to sit that way, I would feel cramped if they were closer together

[untold orchid]

maybe short term

but long term that just sounds like backpain

kinda like a super soft chair might be comfortable for a while but after some time you get back pain if you sit on it all day

there's a reason why all ergonomic chairs are firm

[cosmic fox]

never had back pain sitting that way, and I've been sitting that way for nearly 20 years

It's a sit/stand corner desk and my elbows are at 90 degree angles, but my arms are out wide and like 40 to 50 degrees out from the body instead of straight down

my home setup is more cramped, but my Corsair K95 Vengeance and mouse have plenty of space even on the coffee table.

[latent blaze]

People dont need the extra keys so they would rather have more desk space

Also cheaper 80% of the time

At least

[cosmic fox]

I think the only 3 keys that I don't use that often on my keyboard are the Scroll lock, Pause Break and maybe the Print Screen keys

I use everything else

even use probably about 40 to 50 of the 54 macros available

[oblique moon]

Was wondering if any french perople were around here, and struggling (as I am) with finding FR layouts keycaps

[latent blaze]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/france_shopping_guide/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf try this

[oblique moon]

Thanks !

I'm thinking blank set and sharpie atm

[untold orchid]

if I can find nordic layout keycaps easily there definitely should be a ton of FR layout ones

[latent blaze]

honestly i see more nording than fr caps

dunno why

[opaque shard]

Absolutely. It's just really diminishing returns on improving the experience when the actual functionality of the keyboard is at like 2/10. Adding extremely nice keyswitches to it would bring it up to like a 3/10, so I just don't see the appeal personally

[oblique moon]

Sorta found what I was looking for. wasdkeyboards makes custom printend keycaps... You select what you need/want and they fab it.

[ivory heath]

Are there any mint low profile switch manufacturers? I’m not a huge fan of Gateron, but that’s what this comes with

[weak pewter]

Gateron is very good, but I think kailh makes some as well

[ivory heath]

Kailh has been my go-to brand for the last few months that I’ve been into the hobby

[weak pewter]

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=862

Here

[ivory heath]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-wrestling-gif-18129362

[weak pewter]

10 switches for 4$ not bad

[ivory heath]

Novelkeys has the Kailh Boxes, 36 for $10.80. The last time I said that, someone was very surprised

Can’t remember who

[weak pewter]

I got my 90 gat milky yellow pros for 20$

[ivory heath]

Gat dam

[weak pewter]

Pre lubed with 205g0 as well

[ivory heath]

I haven’t made it deep enough to lube my stuff but I have a bottle and some brushes laying around for when I get bored.

[weak pewter]

Bag lube is easier and faster

[ivory heath]

Yeah. I’ve seen mixed opinions on doing it in a bag but ultimately if it gets the job done it shouldn’t matter

[latent blaze]

Bag is pretty much only for springs, you kinda gotta hand lube the stems and housing

[onyx summit]

So how long does hand lubing take

[latent blaze]

not too long, less than a minute per switch if you get a decent pace

[full river]

Looking for a keyboard similar to the the lenovo thinkpad keyboards, (assuming low profile) and my budget is £50 and would prefer it to be wired, anyone got suggestions?

[flint cypress]

Thoughts on gateron yellow pros found 130 of them in box for $15

[glossy sandal]

gud

[eternal wraith]

very good price for em

normally theyre like 25-30c a switch

[glossy sandal]

lol

[opaque shard]

I think this design is gonna be pretty cool

[glossy sandal]

what’s the layout gonna be?

I can’t imagine running standard qwerty on something like this

[opaque shard]

I'm using a slightly modified Colemak-DH. Regular layouts won't fit because it's not a perfect grid

[glossy sandal]

interesting

part of why I avoid ergo boards like this is because I’m used to standard ansi qwerty and am a bit stubborn to learn a new one

[opaque shard]

Like 99.9% of the rest of the world

I just happen to be interested in ergoboards

[glossy sandal]

I’ve reached where I’m content (100~ wpm) so I don’t need a new layout

ergo boards are cool but I still abhor ortholinear

[opaque shard]

Nobody learns a new layout to type faster, that is not their purpose

[glossy sandal]

I’ve been meaning to get an Alice board soon

[glossy sandal]

reduced finger travel yeah?

[opaque shard]

Yeah, it's mostly a comfort thing

[glossy sandal]

yeah I don’t mind moving my fingers around about a board

It’s like a game of ddr

[opaque shard]

Less effort to type, but not really any faster. I'm like 10% faster on this at most, and I'm a slow typer at like 60 WPM

[glossy sandal]

I find qwerty comfortable for me

I usually keep my hands on either side of the board, I never learned touch typing

[opaque shard]

How do you know if it's comfortable if you never properly learned anything else?

[glossy sandal]

Because I don’t find it straining and quite fun to maneuver the board

[opaque shard]

Compared to what?

[glossy sandal]

though if I were to learn I would probably choose workman

[glossy sandal]

nothing really, but it feels comfortable to me without anything else in regard

[opaque shard]

Alright, sounds weird to state preference when you haven't given yourself any alternatives

[glossy sandal]

somewhat but I’m content with qwerty

[opaque shard]

Yeah, I'm not gonna make you switch, but it's not like you have an actual preference. You just don't have any choice

[glossy sandal]

I didn’t say I had a preference though, I just said I was content with qwerty

anyways though, what do you plan to do with the board?

looks like a corne

[opaque shard]

Just gonna solder in the keys, glue some cloth under it, add a mount plate and use it as is

[glossy sandal]

Coolio

[opaque shard]

Ah fuck, I forgot I don't actually have enough of these keys lying around

[glossy sandal]

what switches are those btw

[opaque shard]

Choc Mini

[glossy sandal]

they don’t look like standard choc

oh

interesting

this is a 40?

[opaque shard]

They're a few millimeters lower than Choc

It's got 30 keys in total

[glossy sandal]

so what is that

alphas, space and two mod keys?

oh I’m missing one key

[opaque shard]

Alphas, space, enter, tab and backspace

[glossy sandal]

Which ones the layer key?

[opaque shard]

They're hold-taps on all thumbs. 4 layers in total of you include the base layer

[glossy sandal]

qmk magic at work

[opaque shard]

ZMK but yes

I'd use QMK but it has shit BT support still

[glossy sandal]

</3

you dont plan to run this wired?

interesting

I’d probably lose one half somehow lol

[opaque shard]

It's completely wireless, with USB-C charging

[glossy sandal]

who are you getting this made by?

pcbway?

[opaque shard]

I usually use JlcPcb but was thinking of trying out PcbWay

[glossy sandal]

They got a good reputation

[prisma mural]

is 85 wpm (my top speed) good?

[torn saffron]

I want a way to use one of the logitech dongles tbh

So I get wireless with low latency ;P

[glossy sandal]

Woah Logan

What’re you doing here

[gloomy patrol]

oh hi logan

[gloomy patrol]

better than ave

[cobalt eagle]

why is one of black switches making lightly clicky noises

does it mean the switch itself is broken?

or is it not good attached to the board

[glossy sandal]

Which key?

[cobalt eagle]

FN

[gloomy patrol]

as long as the switch registers a keypress when clicked its not broken

[glossy sandal]

hmm

is this a prebuilt?

[cobalt eagle]

yes

does it have to do something with the spring inside of it

cuz i also feel an extremely light click

its almost unnoticeable tho

[ionic briar]

Could be spring crunch yeas

Or leaf crunch

[eternal wraith]

it's above average for sure

[stoic onyx]

Thought it be cool to show off my new keycaps

[forest verge]

hey there, any keyboard recs? going for a clicky one, if possible with cherry mx blue, either tkl or 100%

budget is 90+

[forest verge]

not really sure what a proper budget is for a good keyboard like this

[stoic onyx]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

this tkl keyboard is 72$ usd

Gateron blues

[chilly perch]

Feeling like i should try to sell my Q6

[stoic onyx]

not cherry but still clicky

[prisma mural]

Keychron is good

you could maybe get a razer tournament edition or something like that too

don't remember prices, I think they're around $120 or so

oh nvm its $180 cad

uh

I think that the HyperX alloy origins core is pretty good

its like $100, if you live in the us proably

I personally use the Keychron k2, I really like it

[eternal wraith]

gateron k8 pro better.

v3 even better if you dont mind losing wireless

[stoic onyx]

Just checked it out. I agree as well

QMK/VIA is very worth/nice to have

[deft gale]

I was just looking at the K8 the problem is they are out of Brown switches.

[stoic onyx]

if you like tactile, maybe check out boba u4t or T1 switches

[deft gale]

I found that you can buy them on their site for $10 for 35, so for $119 you can get the barebone and enough switches to make a full size keyboard.

The issue is they are also all out of black keycap sets.

[stoic onyx]

[deft gale]

I honestly don't know what I like. The only mechanical keyboard I've used is the Model M, and I love it but I need to use earplugs when I'm around it.

I'm going to get a switch tester tomorrow.

[stoic onyx]

nicee

yeah honestly, def look into other switches that are not cherry xd

[deft gale]

The budget is about $100 because the hospital will buy me a Steam Deck for $650, and I have another $100 to spend on something else. I can make up the difference, but if I had money to buy things the hospital wouldn't be buying it for me.

[stoic onyx]

pog

[deft gale]

I honestly don't know what pog means.

[stoic onyx]

its just a way of saying wow

or nice

smt like that hehe

[deft gale]

Considering the hospital has been paid (let me check)

[forest verge]

also this is probably a very dumb question, but cherry mx blue is the same as clicky blue switches right?

[stoic onyx]

yes

cherry mx blues are clicky switches

anything that has "blues" are probably clicky switches

[deft gale]

over $410,000 by my insurance, over the past two years, and over $10,000 by me, buying me a Steam Deck is the least they can do.

[forest verge]

thank you and sorry for any dumb questions

[stoic onyx]

its not dumb. we all start somewhere

[deft gale]

I can't find anything online comparing the sound of brown and clear, but because clear needs more actuation force for the same distance I think it's going to be louder?

Anyways, with a budget of ~$100 give or take a bit, is there another wireless 10 keyless mechanical keyboard someone can suggest? The hospital has to buy directly from the vendor so I can't just go grab switches from one place and caps from another, etc.

[stoic onyx]

if you're going for quiet and tactile, you can check out the Zilents v2 switches

they're pretty good after its lubed

[deft gale]

I need an entire keyboard

[stoic onyx]

o I see

kk

Like frey said, the keychron k8 pro is pretty good

[deft gale]

I can buy multiple things from the same site, though the less the better.

[stoic onyx]

its about 100$ i think

[deft gale]

The problem with the K8 is that they are sold out of the brown version.

They weren't two weeks ago.

[stoic onyx]

oh whoops i see

[deft gale]

I have no way of knowing when they will be in stock, and I'm being admitted in three weeks.

[stoic onyx]

Maybe checkout Epomaker's tkl section https://epomaker.com/collections/80-keyboards

there are some that are not too expensive and have browns i think

[deft gale]

I actually despise 10 keyless, but it's more portable, and I can key an external keypad later.

Why do websites do this?

It takes so long to sort through each one of these and figure which is needed and which is not

[stoic onyx]

if u want portability, maybe checkout 60%

or 40%

they're much smaller

[deft gale]

Nope, can't deal with those.

I need a full size keyboard, 10-keyless is acceptable only because I can glue a magnet to the side of the keyboard, and glue a magnet to the side of an external keypad, and stick 'em together.

What's the difference between the EPOMAKER 87 and the GK87/87s?

https://epomaker.com/collections/80-keyboards/products/epomaker-skyline-87-kit?_pos=2&_fid=3037a4056&_ss=c&variant=39858239799369

https://epomaker.com/collections/80-keyboards/products/epomaker-gk87-kit?_pos=1&_fid=3037a4056&_ss=c&variant=31895652204617

There is no consistency on these pages, it seems to me one has BT5 and one has 5.1 and that's it

God damn it, they don't have simple all black keycaps

I just want simple, double shot, pbt white on black backlit keycaps.

How is that asking for so much?

Newegg has nothing either

Best Buy is also useless.

Looks like a keyboard is not in my future.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/Gaming/Gaming-Keyboards/PBT-DOUBLE-SHOT-PRO-Keycap-Mod-Kit/p/CH-9911060-NA

Will these fit on the Keychron

[stoic onyx]

Yep. It will fit

[deft gale]

I don't like them, but they might be my only option

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1290202353/104pcs-pbt-double-shot-keycap-set-plain?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=double+shot+pbt+black+keycaps&ref=sr_gallery-1-23&pro=1&sts=1&organic_search_click=1&variation0=2807793036

I wish the pictures were clearer

Never in my life have I used Etsy.

Oy it's from Sydney. Won't get here in my lifetime.

and $16 shipping lol

[unkempt dome]

https://www.amazon.ca/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-RK96-Mechanical/dp/B0B2NZXGBW/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3IARVNDVMVZH8&keywords=rk84&qid=1666217319&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjY1IiwicXNhIjoiMi42OSIsInFzcCI6IjIuMjAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=rk%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-8&th=1&psc=1

Maybe that

For those pacman fans
https://en.akkogear.com/product/pac-man-5108s-mechanical-keyboard/

[past vortex]

I ducked up on the soddering iron, and usb no works. -.-

[chrome raft]

red keyboards smexy

everything I own is red

here’s my current and best keyboard

[zenith swallow]

GMMK or RK61?

[wispy oxide]

Would love to see LTT do a review of higround keyboards.
https://higround.co/collections/basecamp-series

[median grove]

Just a year ago 120 was the fastest I could do-

I've practiced 10-25 minutes every day for about one and a half months now (and every once in a while over the past year)

[onyx summit]

Crys in 90-100

[open crow]

nice

[hearty verge]

damn

me rn

😭

in the 60 second speed test my fingers start becoming shaky after 40s

smh

idk how to deal with that

[ionic briar]

<@&750150305383186585> you guys forgot to clean this up

[harsh belfry]

ty bot missed it

[hearty verge]

what was it

[gleaming crown]

is it possible to fix the switch?

sorry for moving the camera so fast

[chilly perch]

is it hot swap

[pulsar folio]

yes

if it's hotswap, you need to take it out and look at it, maybe just replace it

if it's not hotswap, you'll have to desolder it

[onyx summit]

school fight camera man

[onyx summit]

also easiest way to lube stabs

[unborn forum]

I made a linux only script that allows you to turn your extra keyboard (or any buttons on your current keyboard/mouse)

https://github.com/sebastiansam55/uinput-macropad

I'm currently using with a numpad for macros (text output for common phrases) and with my logitech mx master 3 to remap back/forward buttons to be copy/paste and the hscroll wheel to be the left/right allow keys

[eager lake]

Would anyone help me figure out if this particular style of macro keypad is ortholinear or staggered?

[chilly perch]

Sir

[eager lake]

Yeah?

[chilly perch]

It cannot be classified

[eager lake]

Alright

[glossy sandal]

That’s

That’s.

[eager lake]

That's

[glossy sandal]

That is

It is.

[past vortex]

mono 🤣

[eternal wraith]

Yes.

[exotic wigeon]

any opinions on the km360?

[deft gale]

I'm very "traditional." I have things on keyboards that really matter to me, most of it involves the text. I love this Logitech keyboard, but I've hit a ceiling with my typing speed.

Red switches feel like my rubber dome, but less loud, probably just because of the construction of the base and the keys.

I got an acrylic 12 key tester.

The tester came with this cool ring.

[deft gale]

For one, all caps is criminal. The first letter of every word should be capitalized, nothing more. Secondly, all secondary character must be stacked vertically, not horizontally. Things placed side by side is wrong. Numbers on the num row should always be below their shifted counterparts. All the functions need to be properly written out, same with the secondary functions such as num-pad 3 being Pg Dn. Idealy text is top left aligned, though center left aligned is acceptable with some fonts. The characters such as the carriage return symbol or the shift symbol must be present, idealy bellow the text.

The right key button needs to have the proper icon.

Also, if at all possible, the keyboard should be black with white text. Clearish is fine if you have a white backlight. Nothing but white is acceptable.

At this scale, RGB white is acceptable, though for a room light RGB white is not cohesive enough.

If I were to buy the K8 for example, eventually I would need to replace all the keycaps.

You see how they don't have the Prt Scr/SysRq; Scroll Lock and Pause/Break buttons?

I can only accept that because I wouldn't be the one paying for the keyboard, and it basically gets me a free platform.

That's the only way I can rationalize myself into buying that keyboard given the atrocious design choice.

And as I mentioned, I need to buy an external numpad too, before it can replace my desktop keyboard, but it's okay to use it without a numpad when it's wireless like at the hospital or in bed.

[chrome raft]

oh

[deft gale]

I love that reaction.

[glossy sandal]

[eager lake]

Kibod

[deft gale]

'The hell is that?

It's missing two thirds of the keys!

[velvet vault]

dumped my drink on my keyboard

its all taken apart

and drying now

lets hope it will be fine

[deft gale]

What drink? Not all drinks were created equal.

[eager lake]

Kibod

[sleek bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026629414785654926/1032911747679526952/IMG_20221021_090214.jpg

keeeeeeeeebs

[glossy sandal]

Atleast it’s not a 40

[formal karma]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-saul-goodman-my-gif-25351358

[high sparrow]

Ahh another ergo split degen

Let's goooo

[cunning anvil]

does crkbd count?

i stole the up arrow and the fn keys from my logitech

[cunning anvil]

i have a 40 D:

whats wrong with a 40

[glossy sandal]

ortho 40s scawy

[cunning anvil]

technikable

happy Halloween ig

[coral zinc]

Requesting help about lubing, key switches (I understand that's personal preference) and stabilisers.
Since I live on a shitty island called Cyprus, only a handful of European websites deliver to me so I need help picking from what's accessible to me.
(I wanna build on a Keychron Q6 Knob, you can change my mind if you'd like.)

[narrow temple]

damn nice keyboard

[untold orchid]

Keygem doesnt ship??

[coral zinc]

I've been on that site before, they don't have stock or have listed some stuff I have

[untold orchid]

Keygem has a ton of shit

[coral zinc]

Doesn't have Keychron Q3/Q6 listed and out of stock on Gateron Oil Kings

[untold orchid]

Not many boards but switch selection and modding supplies are the best there is

[coral zinc]

Stabilisers and Lube, I have no idea on so I can't say anything about those

[untold orchid]

They have hundreds of switches

Why settle for oil kings if nobody has them

[coral zinc]

Idk lol, I only decided a few hours on the switches

Didn't know it was a worldwide shortage on them

I did notice they were on shortage on the sites I'm looking at

[untold orchid]

If you want linears maybe go for alpacas or something

[unkempt dome]

oil king are just really popular lately so that's probably why they're out of stock

[chrome raft]

hi

im a beginner to building keyboards

Any tips?

[untold orchid]

Buy a hotswap, soldering isnt worth it for anyone but the hardcore enthusiasts

[cunning anvil]

definitely my favorite one

[autumn raft]

[latent blaze]

Any budget?

[chrome raft]

tbh I don't know what a good budget is and what is cheap/ expensive

i just want to build a good 65% keyboard

[unkempt dome]

how much do you want to pay is what beanz wanted to know ... cause you can get one good for about 100$ ... can find cheaper and also can find way more expensive ... budget is important to know there

[narrow temple]

how much did it cost?

[cunning anvil]

i think all of it was like 300 USD?

[latent blaze]

damn what board? Most 40s i see are between 50 and 120

[cunning anvil]

uh technikable from boardsource, pcb + aluminium case was i think around 150

[ember dove]

just curious but does anyone here have any recommendation on a decent sounding prebuilt?

currently rocking the rk84 and after trying some kb in a shop it sounded way better but i forgot the brand name exactly

its like along the lines of keychron/gmmk/or some smaller brand

the rk84 im using atm is just sounding like cheap plastic after trying those and im kinda over the all black "gamery" aesthetic and trying to go something like this https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=8802

i know i can swap out the keycaps but i just want a prebuilt that's gonna perform way better than my reds rk84 for now and im down to swap keycaps down the line

[fluid igloo]

Any good mechanical TLK keyboards from a widely available brand

[narrow temple]

im using a membrane keyboard

[plain lion]

Thoughts on the SteelSeries Apex Pro (2023)? I'm the kind of dude to go custom or go with something like Keychron but I'm really tempted by SteelSeries's lower response time and software-adjustable actuation etc. How does it do as far as actual typing experience? Pretty much anything of its class is an upgrade from this horrible mushy membrane HyperX Alloy Core RGB but I want to know how it stacks up

I'm tempted by the Corsair K70 Pro Mini Wireless too as the white version looks gorgeous, it's fast, and it has hotswap

[narrow temple]

is there a good 60 procent keyboard out

[plain lion]

there is

there are

several

[narrow temple]

i have been looking and came across a deltaco gaming keyboard?

[plain lion]

a what

[narrow temple]

i dont know lul

deltaco

[latent blaze]

So what layout and budget you looking for

Also sounding “good “ is extremely preference based, some like quiet some like deep some like high some like loud

[narrow temple]

thock is something i think sounds nice

[latent blaze]

at around 60-70 gammakay k61 and kemove snowfox

[latent blaze]

Iquinix f60 is rly good at 160

[narrow temple]

im broke

[latent blaze]

How broke

ilovbee i61 is 30$

[ember dove]

id say tkl is my preferred type, and the "good" sounding is more of a thock than a click clack

[narrow temple]

no money thats how broke i am

[ember dove]

i want it to sound more muted/heavy, from thicker keycaps in general

like gmmk glorious type of "thick/heavy" sounding

[latent blaze]

deltaco keyboard

[narrow temple]

deltaco keyboard tf

[unkempt dome]

Gmmk is not that thick and heavy sounding from what I've heard

Like my 3068b sounds deeper imo and I've done nothing to that board besides swapping and lubing the spacebar stab

But I guess that the gmmk sounds deeper than the k552 ...

[ember dove]

my rk84 is probably the cheapest it can ever sound

sure its not like custom built level but ive wanted a more muted board for a while now and now that ive tried the others

im just trying to find which suits my wants

[latent blaze]

try shoving some pe foam in it

[ember dove]

ill give it a try but i doubt it can do much considering it's also like cheap browns

[latent blaze]

Youd be surprised

i have an rk84 also

[ember dove]

is there any specific like listings i can refer to on amazon?

im from asia so ill have to find something at my local online retailers for them

[latent blaze]

which region? theres big differences between se asia east asia and the rest for keeb stuffs

[tawdry silo]

Totally new to custom keyboards, but since I spend 8+ hours/day by my computer I'm looking into investing in one, and I've spent a few days going through the introduction thread to try to get a grip on how to proceed, and what I need and what style/flavor I think I want, but I've had a hard time finding especially a case and pcb that fits my want/need. A somewhat heavy Contoured/Sculpted fullsize RGB with hotswappable switches. Most vendors I looked at (AnotherSuperSociety list linked from the thread) doesn't have fullsize, nor a Contoured/Sculpted one. Any tips on where I could find something like that? Located in EU, but shipping from the US wouldn't really be a big issue (proxying by a friend if direct shipping isn't available).

[ember dove]

im sea

[latent blaze]

Case Club Customizable (PE) Polyethylene Foam 16" x 12" x 1.5" https://a.co/d/e96uDTl just look for “pe” or Polyethylene

[latent blaze]

can probably get some on ali-express for cheap then

amazon has shit pricing,

[ember dove]

alright ill take a look

i just need a product to reference

and i assume i need to cut these foam to fit in the little grooves underneath the keycaps?

[latent blaze]

yeap

[ember dove]

alright i thought i needed those like precut foams to fit underneath the pcb

so for rk84 modding all i really need is just foam, lube, tapes and all those other stuff? 🤔

[cunning anvil]

where would be the best place to look for a cheap ortho hotswap? i don't really wanna solder

[latent blaze]

sorry for late reply, but yeah, the included stabs are ok so if you have extra get some tx or durock plate mounts. but not neccesary

[unkempt dome]

Tape mods usually makes it more quiet too ... might want to try that

[latent blaze]

What % layout? i might eb able to help.

heres an ortho 40% split soldered board for 18 https://www.littlekeyboards.com/collections/helix-pcb-kits/products/helix-pcb-kit

[cunning anvil]

any, im just looking for Ortho hotswap tbh

[latent blaze]

well, pcb kit not board technically

byo switches and caps

[cunning anvil]

would i have to custom the case?

[cunning anvil]

soldered meaning i have to solder myself?

[latent blaze]

yeah

OH

I MISREAD

nvm

Lmao

i thought u wanted TO solder

[cunning anvil]

lol yeah though i guess i should do some soldering at some point

i wanna do some Arduino style projects and I'm sure it'd be helpful to grab a kit for that anyways so

maybe ill look for a soldering one

[latent blaze]

for hotswap theres the bm40 and bm43

[latent blaze]

I just finished soldering a board so i got soldering on the mind

nice skill to have as a tech enthusiast

idk many otho keebs that arent 40% so if you want a bigger layout i cant help

sry

[cunning anvil]

idm 40s lol

if i did a 40 i kinda wanna build one from scratch

they're always 4x12, where's all the 4x10s lol

[latent blaze]

bm40 is a 4x10!

You can get just the pcb and build from there

[cunning anvil]

oo

it looks like 4★12 with middle merged on the site

[frank scarab]

im trying to assign a hotkey to google however when i try use it, it doesnt work is there any reason to this

[unkempt dome]

not sure if the akko alice can be counted as an ergo board ... but it sure is not standard

[still moat]

So I am currently picking between three different really cheap 60% mechanical keyboards, and I am wondering if anyone here knows anything about them.

https://www.amazon.ca/Black-Shark-Mechanical-Keyboard-Programmable/dp/B09S62FYF1/

https://www.amazon.ca/Portable-Mechanical-Keyboard-MageGee-Backlit/dp/B092CHWH1D/

https://www.amazon.ca/Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Backlit-Portable/dp/B09JS2H1NH/

I am a broke college student right now, and my deskspace is tiny at the room I am renting on weekdays, so I need something small, cheap, and passable for typing and gaming on instead of my laptops keyboard.

[coral zinc]

Something's off about this list

[latent blaze]

https://a.co/d/4Cgmxez this one better

[still moat]

Need amazon.ca

[still moat]

Also at that price I would like a wrist rest.

[wheat island]

What is the price range for a custom tactile tkl keyboard

[still moat]

Oh it also doesn't have prime delivery in Canada. I'm not paying $80 total for that.

[latent blaze]

bruh whys it 80$ on amazon ca

its 25 in us

[still moat]

$60 CAD with $20 delivery

So yeah, Not getting it

At that cost I might as well get the Redragon K530

[unkempt dome]

That ?

https://a.co/d/27Jeyew

Not sure it's any good tho

[latent blaze]

Looks like outemu sockets

[unkempt dome]

Check this out! https://a.co/d/ap61E4f

[latent blaze]

for 50$ that’s unfortunate

[unkempt dome]

Also that

Yes it's outemu socket

Well it's cad price

[latent blaze]

Yeah stiol

The yooso looks pretty solid

Really good 60% boards that i know at least kinda start at 60$ USD with the exception of the i61, i dont know any good boards in the cad market unfortunately

[unkempt dome]

Well there's plenty on amazon.ca but are they good ... pretty sure you get what you pay for

At least those two you can put some akko or boba switches in there

The yooso would be my pick just cause of the price ... you don't lose much if it's not that good ... you can always mod it if you want to

[ionic haven]

I diffused the led pass through on my everglide aqua king switches with a precision cut piece of frosted opaque vinyl using my wife's circuit machine. Love how even the light distribution is now 😎

[chilly perch]

How is that possible

What about the key stem? How is ur lighting that good

[ionic haven]

I ran the frosted vinyl across this section of switch where the led shines through from the bottom. Doesn't make any contact with stem or keycap on down press. Having my wife's circuit machine helped a lot as I was able to have pre-cut sections that perfectly fit that specific area of the switch.

[chilly perch]

Huh, wow

That's really cool

[hasty grotto]

The Drop Control Keyboard is total garbage. Can't believe LTT advertises it.

$250 down the drain 🖕

[ionic haven]

Ya man, it's a terrible release. Shoulda checked r/mechmarket they are going for super cheap. They did a really bad job diffusing the LED border on the Drop Control. Then the major issues with the disconnecting issue really sucks also lol. Replace the stabs with Durocks and do the holee mod. Also StupidFish Foam will help reduce the ping if you care about these types of things.

[full field]

I have a question

For a hot swap keyboard, do I have to solder it?

[chrome raft]

no

[full field]

So, I just put it in to the pcb?

[chrome raft]

hot-swap keyboards have hot-swap sockets that you put the switch into

[full field]

Ok

[cosmic musk]

Lucky lol I recently had to do a replacement for one of the switches in my non hot swap board. It took hours to sort out technical difficulties, the metal contacts and tracks came off and I nearly shorted out the whole thing permanently

[forest verge]

Hey lads, any rgb keyboard recs? budget is 100+. For switches I'd want kaihl box pinks or if I gotta cherry mx blues

[twilit flare]

Considering upgrading from a razer cynosa to a huntsman TE

idk if google is messing with me but apparently some gamestop nearby is selling it for $38

[nova nymph]

hey, have any of those hall effect or optical switches meaningfully made it to market? I'm looking for a keyboard for my lab at work which will be immune to fine metal dust but is somewhat nice to type on... I have a K840, and getting lots of malfunctions after only 4 years in a relatively clean corner of the lab (yes I tried cleaning it).

basically any decent quality IP(water/dust resistant) rated choices?

[unkempt dome]

kailh box switches have IP rating

[sweet thunder]

A Wooting Hall effect board would probably work

Or get one of those waterproof membrane things

[sonic cape]

just finished this beauty

and these two

[winged cosmos]

I kinda rlly want the scope rx bec the ip57 rating

[glossy sandal]

what the hell are you doing with your board?

do you spill drinks often or something?

[vital robin]

is an ergo keyboard worth it?
I guess it is highly dependent on your posture as well
(typing away at the Logitech 644297)
https://support.logi.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360025260614--Product-Gallery-Cordless-Desktop-Comfort-Laser

[glossy sandal]

wdym worth it

[vital robin]

because like they are a lot more expensive than a non-ergo
especially a mechanical one, if there exist any at all

[glossy sandal]

not really...

you can look at something like the keychron q series, there is both a "regular" layout option and an ergo (alice) option

and they're both around 10-20$ of eachother

but to answer your question though, that's up to you, if you think you would enjoy a ergo style board then buy one.

[vital robin]

Well. If I have zero keyboard I might get a Microsoft Ergo (for $40) or a K350 (looks trippy tho)
.. hm the keycron K10W isnt that terribly expensive.
THe Q8 is $200 tho and it does not even come with a numpad

[winged cosmos]

i need working LCTRL and windows keys cause them on my g815 might have died

right ones do but i prefer using left ones

[vital robin]

how did they manage to die before, idk, wasd or E?
I highly doubt that the switches are actually dead

[winged cosmos]

lights only work on them still

ot rgb

[glossy sandal]

you know that's a preference right?

the board im typing on doesn't even have arrows

if you want a numpad you can get a q5/q6

[vital robin]

well, but you can't habe a ergo with a numpad attached to the side
Now granted, such keyboards (by microsoft and logitech) are absolutely immense, and so I can see how people will dis... aah ... prefer one without numpad. so the size will be a little bit more manageable
However the counterargument then befcome "It's already a ergo"
yea but the KB will .. the PCB is going to be the same however which is good

[glossy sandal]

like this?

https://www.mechgroupbuys.com/keyboards/What in the ** Board

'

[vital robin]

well, except the numpad is not on the left like a freak

[glossy sandal]

you'll be hard pressed to find options that accommodate\ that

this one is uhh

650$

[vital robin]

yeah. which is why I am increasingly inclining on making my own. With a USB hub as well
hence my PCB discussion

[glossy sandal]

you can try if you want lol

i think it'd just be easier to just buy an ergo like the q8 and buy an external numpad

then to go through the whoe manufacturing proccess

[vital robin]

the wiring (and usb port usage) is going to be absolyte [_] however
manufacturing isnt insanely difficult. PCBs you can get for dirt cheap
and for the chassis I can just 3D print
I do need ribbon cables to connect the PCB tho. yeah manufacturing could be a pain
but I think it's worth it

[glossy sandal]

if you think it's worth it to make a 1/1 keyboard which satisfies your needs

coolio

[glossy sandal]

also how is the wiring gonna be a pain?

it's 2 wires

[vital robin]

well, for a "split" ergo there will be at least 3 PCBs (since PCB can't flex)
so you must find a way to connect them together, and also MUX-ing the keys
Granted I can just use parallel-to-serial shift registers (not unlike 74HC165 I used earlier) and so I will only have a serial and a clock (and a chip-enable), but the point still stands

[glossy sandal]

what..

[vital robin]

yeah but your keyboard won't have that "lump" in the middle then

[glossy sandal]

oh you're looking for a board with curves in the middle

like a corne?

[vital robin]

yeah
and I am surprised that this don't have a cone
||.. for $200?!||

[chrome raft]

anyone know how to use synapse 3

[glossy sandal]

so if i am to understand what you're sayingf

you'd want something olike this?

[vital robin]

ok how about
https://secure.logitech.com/assets/14299/14299.png
except it's now mechanical

this is what I am using and I wouldn't complain (at all); they are even wireless and the dongle can take a mouse as well (have to find separately)
except that Logitech no longer make these, and the one I have started to show signs of age

[latent blaze]

https://www.mechmap.tech/keyboard-picker-alicelike see if you like anything on here

[vital robin]

they are flat(?) and they don't have numpad
price is not terrible otherwise

[bold patio]

I know you said kinda no to the "make my own kb".. but if its just for the ribbon connectors.. you could use normal wires too

[boreal rivet]

You won't find one that isn't flat fyi

[vital robin]

actually; I remember LTT did a review on a two-piece "split" ergo with inner kickstands so you can arrange them to form a "hump"
It probably costed around $300-$400, but the point stands

[boreal rivet]

Im saying you won't find one that's shaped like your logitech example lol

And is one-piece

[vital robin]

not convinced. but either way it is probably way too expensive than what I am willing to pay for

[boreal rivet]

Maybe once you learn more about the hobby you will be

[vital robin]

it's more down to the time for manufacturing rather than raw material cost
switches aside

[boreal rivet]

Something like what you're thinking of is far too niche and annoying to assemble for both the consumer and manufacturer

[vital robin]

yes; as a matter of fact even non-ergo keyboards (such as the one I showcased) is massively complicated
It's one of the reasons the Microsoft Ergo 4000 sell for $399

[unkempt dome]

Maybe that ... but no numpad

https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

[vital robin]

yeah I think this is the one LTT reviewed... no?
yeah I think so. the 3-key cluster and PointStyk/Trackball/Trackpad module is removeable

[unkempt dome]

Haven't seen that review

[vital robin]

Hmm. indeed I cannot find one from LTT
BUT I can almost swore I seen it somewhere. Maybe simply from others
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ultimate+hacking+keyboard

[unkempt dome]

I was meaning that I don't watch much ltt keyboard review

[vital robin]

They did make one for the ... ? ergodox EZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LALQsqZP1nA

[boreal rivet]

That's just because it's EOL and sellers are trying to flip remaining stock to collectors lmao

The new version costs 60 bucks or something

Membrane rubber domes are not particularly complicated to manufacture at all, it's why you don't see mechanical versions of these Microsoft ergo like keyboards

Sure the design process may be complicated but once tooling is manufactured, everything else is easy

There is a good example of why one-piece mechanical keyboards with a built in hump are expensive to manufacture but I can't remember what it was called

[vital robin]

yeah but you don't need to take them apart to know how the old one is massively more complicated (at the benefit of slightly longer lifetime and looks)

[boreal rivet]

How so is the old one "massively more complicated"?

[vital robin]

the construction. The keycap/shaft assembly is split into 3 pieces but also the frame
screwed to a plastic frame with a ring for function keys screwed from the top and the back plate from the bottom
3(? 4?) different piece of rubber dome, etc, etc
round, keyed shafts with angle of key different for different keycaps
it took me 40 minute or so to disassemble. Unfortunately it have a bad membrane so about 20% of the keys don't work

[boreal rivet]

Doesn't sound that complicated though

Seems about right for a membrane rubber dome with that shape

[vital robin]

the point is that it could be simpler. And smaller
the logitech have a two(? three?) piece key-cap assembly "snapped" into the top "frame" with a see-thru shield plastic weld. 1-piece rubber dome (and a separate rubber key strip) backed by 2 stamped metal pieces
a lot less screws and generally simpler construction

[boreal rivet]

It's only natural that manufacturing processes advance over time no?

The keyboard you are talking about is very old, it's construction could've simply been a product of manufacturing constraints at the time

[glad current]

I need some keyboard recommendations plzz Prefered to be full size but open to getting some 60% ones too

idc about price

[sweet thunder]

Could get an Odin if you don’t care about price

[glad current]

Cant Justify spending THAT much money on one lmao, i decided on the akko 3098S 1800 compact

[cunning anvil]

what are recommendations for quiet ootb switches, choc and mx?

[glossy sandal]

I’ve been looking at haimu heartbeats

[opaque shard]

Keyboard manufacturers: Tilts the keyboard slightly
Same keyboard manufacturers: "This is peak ergonomics"

[sonic cape]

i just bought pre-lubed oil kings and they are pretty silent in a well moded tofu60

tape moded, silicon layer, plate foam, and some case foam

overall they´re just the perfect balance

[glossy sandal]

I feel that’s too specific to be of any advice

[cunning anvil]

hmm, also looking to get a keyboard with arrow keys, numrow that may or may not also be the fn row, tkl.
particularly want one thats qmk programmable

but i dont want to solder so idk if that clashes with the qmk requirement too badly

[forest verge]

hi, been struggling with choices for a keyboard.
some1 recommended me build my own keyboard, going for a black purple theme so he recommended me to get the keychron v5 as a base, GMK for the keycaps, and for my switches I went with kaihl pinks.
I'm still a bit unsure about it though, this worth the ~150 dollars?

[glossy sandal]

wtf lmao

[glossy sandal]

There are other things besides gmk

If you’re in the US I would check out Cannonkeys, novelkeys, etc for more affordable stuff

I don’t see the point of buying a V5 and throwing gmk on there

[forest verge]

he probably went for the gmk first love due to the colors

[forest verge]

no i'm dutch so like

[glossy sandal]

oh ok

Do you need iso-de layout?

[forest verge]

what's that? sorry if that's a dumb question

but i know really little about keyboards

[glossy sandal]

Nordic layout

nordic keyboard layout

With characters like Ä, Ø etc etc

[forest verge]

Probably won't need those

[glossy sandal]

ok do you use iso or ansi?

[forest verge]

ISO

[glossy sandal]

ok cool so do you plan to switch to ansi?

Because the keychron V5 is ansi only

[forest verge]

nope, i guess no keychron then

also i'll be back in a bit, gotta eat

[glossy sandal]

yeah sure, ping me if you come back

[brazen brook]

Now I want to buy a Logitech MX Mech Mini, would be worth it?

[forest verge]

@glossy sandal I'm back

[glossy sandal]

Hi

So iso right?

[forest verge]

Yeah

[glossy sandal]

keychron sells an iso version of the q series

[forest verge]

I got an iso keyboard rn and seeing anso I like iso a lot more

[glossy sandal]

Keychron Q5

[forest verge]

aight, i'll cop that then

oh wait nvm ouch

even the barebone is 175

[glossy sandal]

It’s a little pricier though

[forest verge]

and i'd still need to get keycaps and switches if i go for the barebone one

[glossy sandal]

Yep

Iso keyboards are harder to get

since most boards use ansi

[forest verge]

is there anything cheaper or would that just dip into "bad" quality keyboards?

[glossy sandal]

Q series is pretty bang for buck

I can see what I can come up with

[forest verge]

alr

[glossy sandal]

Do you care about size of keyboard?

[brazen brook]

I want to buy a Logitech MX Mech Mini

Is it worth it?

The problem is that I can't do any of those

[forest verge]

kinda

would want either a tkl or 100%

[brazen brook]

The question was primarily of it's quality and format

[glossy sandal]

Would you settle for 75%?

[forest verge]

hold on give me a second, let me see what it looks like

[glossy sandal]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-v1-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard-iso-layout-collection?variant=40279356538969

[brazen brook]

I already heard how it sounds in it's Quiet Tactile version

[forest verge]

Is there any option for even anything like tkl?

I like keys like prtn scrn, especially with lightshot

if there aren't that's fine

[brazen brook]

I think it's perfect for me

But at CLP$155.698... Is it worth it?

(USD$160~)

[glossy sandal]

You know you can rebind right?

you can make any button on your keyboard do anything (in reason)

not as of late

[brazen brook]

Oh

[glossy sandal]

gmmk pro is kinda overshadowed with good reason as of everything else coming out

[glossy sandal]

That’s up to you lol, to me personally it looks like an apple keyboard

and it probably feels like one too

[forest verge]

yeah, just that i'd still like to see if there's any type of option for tkl or 100%

if there isn't i'll probably have to go with the 70%

[brazen brook]

I would maintain my chinese TKL Clicky mechanical keyboard, but I want one that has better quality

[glossy sandal]

that or uhh butterfly

I’m unsure but I don’t really like any of those really low profile boards

[brazen brook]

This is the one I currently have (Old photo, tho)

[glossy sandal]

I thought it was a low profile one?

ah

I don’t like the travel on those so I avoid them

Chocs have been getting my attention though

[forest verge]

besides this, the switches and keycaps are fine right?

oh wait that's a fully assembled one

[glossy sandal]

the keycaps are a bit odd because you’re buying 110$^ keycaps and a 80$ board

I think the actual board should be the most expensive thing

[glossy sandal]

You can swap them out

[forest verge]

fair, just looking for something different for the keycaps, i'll take the keychron there as base and i'll keep the kaihl pinks

but i'd want something purple as the keycaps

[glossy sandal]

I’d check kbdfans

They ship internationally

For that price I’d just get a Q1

[forest verge]

any other places where i could get keycaps? kbd has like, 1 kit with purple keycaps and it's like 5 of the keys are purple and the rest are black

[glossy sandal]

How so?

wha

It’s a 75%

Same as the gmmk pro

and comes with an optional knob

yeah I like it

Also q1 has better stabs out of the box and doesn’t have issues with aftermarket stabs, I like that compared to the gmmk pro

[forest verge]

so expensive holy shite

its just that i dont think i got that much to spend on a keyboard

especially not when I also need keycaps and switches

I mean I use a g213, not even an actual proper mechanical board

nor am I a fan of the switch sounds

What cheaper just prebuilt keyboards do you rec? stuff like the apex pro is too expensive

~100-120?

if needed i can go a tiny bit higher

they're mech domes

ah

I'd go for either cherry blues, or kaihl box pinks/whites

like those types of sounds

doubt ill go for a cherry blue, wayy too loud

like the sound though

i mean yeah

i'm dutch so

[unkempt dome]

Purple
https://en.akkogear.com/product/provence-keycap-set127-key/

https://en.akkogear.com/product/periwinkle-very-peri-keycap-set-197-key/

https://en.akkogear.com/product/kuromi-keycap-set/

[tender basin]

Can someone please help me pick a keyboard for my PC?

[sonic cape]

whats your budget ?

You want loud, silent ?

full size or smaller one

rgb or no rgb

wireless or wires ?

[sweet thunder]

Well you said you didn’t care about price

[fluid flare]

🤔 lubeing some outemu greens worth it?

[vital robin]

there must be a place for you to buy generic keycaps right?

[fluid flare]

amazon or in super cheap with long delivery aliexpress

🤔 should i buy replacement stabilizer or mod the ones that will come with my keyboard

[vital robin]

how do the current ones suck

[fluid flare]

its an cheap keyboard so i think so the reviews are somewhat mixed

🤔 and will be my first customizable keyboard my old one which i destroyed accidentally with some coke today was garbage quality prob did myself a favor with killing it with coke lmao

🤨 weirdly enough the keyboard was in sale like it seems

so lucky

i was kinda forced to buy extra pack of key switches tho since the purple one i wanted only was available with red switches and i hate red's

[lethal crescent]

whats the best gaming keyboard can get for 50$?

ONLY mechanical pls

[open crow]

Already got it?

If not check akkogear.de

[vital robin]

I think reddragon was reviewed and is somewhat decent

[sonic cape]

if USD get a rk61

Royal Kludge 61 is very decent and nicely upgradeable and modable

[cobalt eagle]

how long does it take for ABS keycaps to wear out

so lets say i use my keyboard for 2-3h a day

[uneven shuttle]

Any scathing indictments against the corsair k65 mini or should i buy it on half-off sale

[boreal rivet]

Mostly depends on how disgusting your fingers are

[wind ether]

What are y'alls opinion on the Keychron K10?

[lethal crescent]

Do blue, brown, or red switches sound the best for there click, i want loud ones

[ionic briar]

best click huh
kailh box clicky series

or zeal clickiez

if you are going with older boards then find one with alps skcm blue or buckling spring

[lethal crescent]

So blue switch?

[errant wigeon]

Right now I'm leaning towards buying the Keychron K8 Wireless but if anyone has some good or bad history with it I would love to know
Link: https://www.keychron.com/collections/normal-profile-keyboards/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018252955737

[chrome raft]

the o ring on my bakeneko came undone and i have no idea how to take this apart to fix it

[fluid flare]

oring?

arent they supposed under the key caps

[fluid flare]

nah only ordered yesterday but well 48€ it was the cheapest i could find it for and if it got hot swap so why not even with extra key switches it was cheaper as on other sides

[glossy sandal]

Just pick it up dude

Pcb and plate are friction fit, just lift

[vital robin]

ABS is fine, but they break down when exposed to UV. Also they are not the most resistant against grease or whatsnot
Then you have PBT caps which I assume will last a big longer, however they react to heat not unlike PET. so if you are that person that throw your keycaps into dishwashers, yeah maybe not do that.
for 3D printing I guess you can also try ASA and PETG which are great plastic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybutylene_terephthalate
(you idiot iPad client I want to delete embed link bruh let me do it)

[lost berry]

Put simply, they probably won't "wear out" per say,

ABS Keycaps are known to shine after use.

It'll probably take around four months at 2-3h a day in my experience to see noticable shine, but you'll probably see a little bit before that.

[cobalt eagle]

Is the shine a bad thing or good thing

And where can i find keycaps for my msi GK50 i want the exact same ones

[sonic cape]

i always thought i´m the only one who uses aliexpress as the primary source for custom mech keyboard components

[near pewter]

hey

where should i ask about mice

[pulsar folio]

my Ducky One2 Mini is fine, but I'm not sure that one is ABS or not

bought it like 2 years ago or so, probably used it on average 10-15 hours a day over that period

[fathom bobcat]

do u need to lube switches again after some time?

[pulsar folio]

yes

[fathom bobcat]

generally after how long?

[pulsar folio]

wouldn't know, not even sure there is a good answer to that

probably depends on type of lube used, and how much is applied

probably depends on the environment too, like humidity and temp, as well as use

[fathom bobcat]

oh btw can u lube with like coconut oil lol or will that dmg switches

[pulsar folio]

that I don't know

but I would just buy some switch lube

[fathom bobcat]

ok

thnx

[chilly perch]

Yeah u definitely want real loob

[chrome raft]

this oring goes around the plate and pcb

[glossy sandal]

2-3 years is a good estimate

Though your mileage may vary

[glossy sandal]

Please don’t

It will rot

[versed brook]

3d printing my own keyboard

we will see how it goes

[glossy sandal]

what pcb did you base it around?

[unkempt dome]

No, use the proper lubricant for switches

[vital robin]

do not use cooking oil as they will "go bad"
I have tried lithium grease on membranes and they seem to work fairly well
for mechanical maybe something a little bit more runny, but not too runny

[fathom bobcat]

well coconut oil is used to lube all sorts of stuff(like door hinges) and its quite runny

also whats a good company for switch lube

[vital robin]

but the problem is coconut oil is organic
I usually try to look for synthetics

[fathom bobcat]

ok

[vital robin]

you can buy dedicated keyboard grease, because, well, keyboard makers sell them. Corsair, maybe
but they would likely not come from your favorite lubricant manufacturer (e.g., Lucas, American Grease Stick?)

[unkempt dome]

Krytox 205g0
Trybosis 3203
Super lube ptfe oil for spring and ptfe grease for switches

Dielectric grease for stabs

Don't use any petroleum based product

[umbral verge]

Cockk switches ???

[fluid igloo]

Cockk switches???

[spice sail]

[errant wigeon]

Does anyone have some alternatives to the Keychron K8. Im looking for a tkl with similar build, but slightly lower price tag and different coloring

k8 for reference: https://www.keychron.com/collections/keychron-wireless-keyboards/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

[loud dew]

any recommendations for a good sub €100-€150 tkl keyboard?

I'm in the EU so I don't think I can order the K8 🥲

[gusty ridge]

Counter question, are there any shops that sell uncompromising already built boards and actually have stock? Id love a real premium feeling full package but have zero interest in building it myself or waiting a year for a delivery. Budget up to around 500 if its genuinely worth it.

[latent blaze]

What layout? What sound profiles do you like? Everything with this hobby is preference, one mans endgame dream board could sound and feel disgusting to you but a random amazon board for 80$ could seem like it was handed to you by the gods. Regardless, https://www.mechmap.tech/themap this is a solid site that showcases some good boards in different layouts, doesnt have much in the super high end though (4-500) pretty much no fully in stock instant ship boards at that price tho

aftermarket is prob the best place to look

keycults really the only thing i can think of rn that expensive stock

but they are insanely limited edition

[gusty pivot]

I just backed the MelGeek Pixel on Kickstarter. Pretty excited, seems like a fun keyboard.

[glossy sandal]

Keychron ships to most eu countries

also if you’re buying K8, why it spring for the K8 pro?

[loud dew]

not looking forward to shipping my keyboard back to the US if it would break

[glossy sandal]

It ships from China

Not the US

Keychron is based in China

[loud dew]

oh

even worse, ship to china XD

[glossy sandal]

I don’t really see an issue

[loud dew]

was hoping to buy something that sells a bit more local

so I could easily return it if anything were to happen

[glossy sandal]

and are you expecting problems out of the gate?

[loud dew]

not necessarily

[glossy sandal]

K8 pro is decent for the price

Won’t be doa, keychron has a decent reputation, especially when it comes to budget boards

also keychron shipping is pretty fast so idk what the concern is

[loud dew]

I've been thinking about it, and I think I may just order the same HyperX Alloy Origins Core again, loved it, but spilled a drink on it a year ago, and it decided to stop working now

[glossy sandal]

weigh your options if you must

[loud dew]

the hyperX one is full alluminium, has multiple different switches to choose from, pretty clean font, etc

[glossy sandal]

I have my dislikes about it but if it’s what you like I can’t tell you otherwise

[loud dew]

what are your dislikes, if you don't mind sharing?

[glossy sandal]

shabby build quality, horrendous font and mediocre keycaps, also hotswap functionality (not mx), propriety software and hate the look

and some others I can’t think of right now

[loud dew]

keycap quality I agree on, but those can be swapped. gamer aesthetic is gone once you set the leds to white

I've seen fonts that are way worse on keyboards, it's not that bad to me

build quality isn't shabby, it's full alluminium

I agree that it's sad you can't switch the switches

[glossy sandal]

Aluminum ≠ Good build quality

There’s good plastic and poorly done aluminum

[loud dew]

agreed

[glossy sandal]

I just don’t like it for some other personal reasons but if you like it then don’t let me deter you

[loud dew]

but I don't agree on it feeling bad, the frame feels very good to me

[glossy sandal]

have you tried anything else? curious

[loud dew]

I've had a variety of keyboards in the last ten years

One of my mates had a K8 actually, but I just get kinda anxious when I know I can't simply return a product if any flaws would come up

I had a couple of razer keyboards, weren't the best at the time, although I kinda digged some of the newer ones they offer rn

haven't dived deep inside the smaller keyboard brands, but they're not easily available in my area

[glossy sandal]

Where are you from?

[thorny heart]

my first mistake after building my keyboard was don’t buy keycaps and keyboard kits off of amazon

[latent blaze]

amazon is only good for budget boards like royal kludge and keychron with good shipping price and time

[unkempt dome]

Akko also sell on amazon

it's not cause it's from amazon that it's necessarily bad

[fluid flare]

i dunno sometimes you can find some budget gems on aliexpress

like the womir wk61 i ordered for example 48€ it got hotswap good build quality it even has an silicon dampening mat

🤔 to be fair most stuff amazon sells nowadays is like straight from china with huuge marketing lies and tag massaker so im trusting in terms of hardware aliexpress kinda more

🤨 ooof its gonna be so hard to get used to the new layout.... from qwertz with öäü to none of em which i actually use quite often and the worst the enter is way smaller as i used to lol

🤔 hmmm by the way is it worth it to retrive the kalih blue switches from the keyboard i killed sometime ago?

[open crow]

What switches?

Get a lubing kit for the stabilizers

[viscid tapir]

is this worth

tho

[coral zinc]

Is there anything I'm missing, that I should get ?

[true wagon]

lttstore.com screwdriver for the stabs

[coral zinc]

I'd like my keyboard this year

[glossy sandal]

Switch opener

[crude current]

anyone know good custom keyboard (a quiet one) to 100$ and low price ship to Poland?

[fluid flare]

Outemu? I think Reds as default but hot swappable so basically any you want

I for myself ordered some outemu greens since I don't like reds

[open crow]

[uneven shuttle]

Is this normal???

The pinging noise i mean

[glossy sandal]

That just sounds like spring ping

lube your switches and it’ll go away

[uneven shuttle]

bruh im not gonna desolder and open 70 switches you're insane

im just tryna play video games not become a mechanical scientist

[glossy sandal]

well to answer your question

It’s normal

[uneven shuttle]

It pings so much though

[glossy sandal]

What board?

[uneven shuttle]

Corsair k65 mini

[glossy sandal]

yeah assuming this uses cherry springs

[uneven shuttle]

I have another board which cost me like half as much and it has ZERO ping

[glossy sandal]

That’s normal

[uneven shuttle]

It does

[glossy sandal]

Cherry springs are garb

[uneven shuttle]

Lol aight

[glossy sandal]

You could put something in the case to help mute it but like

you said you didn’t wanna get technical

[uneven shuttle]

Mhmm some kinda foam ig

[glossy sandal]

What board?

[uneven shuttle]

I can get technical but not too fiddly

[uneven shuttle]

kinda crappy chinese board

[glossy sandal]

A membrane?

[uneven shuttle]

No browns

Ofc membranes wont ping they have no springs

[glossy sandal]

case can also cause ping

[uneven shuttle]

Content brown switches

[glossy sandal]

That’s why I suggested opening it and stuff foam in there

polyfil is probably what I would recommend since it doesn’t change the sound too much

[uneven shuttle]

well

I want the sound to change
So like

[glossy sandal]

(the stuff in stuffed animals)

[uneven shuttle]

Ooh

[glossy sandal]

to what?

[uneven shuttle]

Well, less pingy obv

[glossy sandal]

don’t say any buzzwords please

[uneven shuttle]

The actual mechanical sound im cool with, quite clacky

[glossy sandal]

just use polyfil then

it’s not too dense and gets rid of some ping

[uneven shuttle]

aight cool

I'll try it

[late quail]

Any gaming mechanical keyboard silent to suggest? I need a new one

[wintry quest]

There is no such thing as a gaming keyboard because nothing would actually benefit you when gaming. The only exception would be the wooting keyboards with lekker switches since they are Hall effect it’s a really cool keyboard that actually has gaming benefits so I would review looking at that

[eternal wraith]

k65 mini very bad.

source: i own one

[uneven shuttle]

ok elaborate?

@eternal wraith

[eternal wraith]

overpriced, sounds bad, kinda featureless

[uneven shuttle]

I got it for about half price so I'm happy w that

[eternal wraith]

that's good

[uneven shuttle]

How do you mean featureless?

[eternal wraith]

i mean that it doesn't really offer anything novel for the price it's at

[glossy sandal]

100$ gamer prebuilt no hotswap functionality

[eternal wraith]

exactly that

[glossy sandal]

Hi frey

[eternal wraith]

hello gas

[uneven shuttle]

Im a bitch for icue though, all my rgb things run through it (not all of it is corsair though lmao)

[glossy sandal]

sorry I didn’t rate that sound test

My data is poor rn

[eternal wraith]

icue is fine for lighting customisation but i don't like how it's a memory hog in my case

[glossy sandal]

I don’t like most proprietary softwares

[uneven shuttle]

this rgb strip runs off an arduino lol

[glossy sandal]

They like to run in the background

[eternal wraith]

i'm a bigger fan of open-source stuff like VIA

[glossy sandal]

true !

[eternal wraith]

for RGB

[uneven shuttle]

Yeah that's why i stick to one ecosystem

[glossy sandal]

I don’t have any lighting aside from maybe a monitor lightbar so idc

and a couple keyboards I guess

But I turn off rgb either way

[uneven shuttle]

welp, i have the taste of a ten-year old kid

[eternal wraith]

i want to not use rgb but it always draws me in

pretty lights...