r/hardwareswap perhaps? @nova scarab
#peripherals
urban glade
R/mechmarket
There’s a mechmarket discord server too , not affiliated with the subreddit
amber tartan
r/mechmarket is super overpriced
rarely ever find a deal worth buying
most just use it to trade boards
boreal rivet
More just rampant flipping
pulsar folio
You didn’t think to share these cmake errors with us? Perhaps that’s a good place to start if you want help…
cunning anvil
You didn’t think to share these cmake errors with us? Perhaps that’s a good plac...
i figured it out, my b
turns out documentation was in fact complete and im just dumb
civic iris
how bad is the HP gaming K100?
pulsar folio
turns out documentation was in fact complete and im just dumb
I tend to always skip the important parts of documentation, and then keep complaining about how bad said documentation is - to only realize I'm the culprit 😂
pulsar folio
how bad is the HP gaming K100?
you're probably better off buying something else... I can't even find it for sale in Norway... what does it even cost?
civic iris
sorry i meant K300
it costs around 12.5$ here
its the cheapest keyboard with rgb backlit here lol
pulsar folio
it costs around 12.5$ here
that price tells you to run the other way ngl
pulsar folio
its the cheapest keyboard with rgb backlit here lol
no, just no - please don't! 
if you're on that tight of a budget, you shouldn't even think of lighting, let alone RGB
civic iris
yeah thats why im asking how bad is it
pulsar folio
not only will the RGB probably be very bad, it will also be what eats up almost the entirety of the costs of manufacturing the keyboard 😛
you can probably compare it to a keyboard that comes with a prebuilt home computer from Dell etc, just with cheap RGB added
civic iris
was thinking about getting TUF keyboard
pulsar folio
if you want good and affordable keyboards, look at Keychron
they're good keyboards, not good for the price, just good! 😛
civic iris
my budget is pretty limited
the keyboards im looking at are the tuf one and coolermaster MK110
pulsar folio
so how high can you stretch your budget?
also; do you really need a full size keyboard? (not usually gonna help price to buy smaller keyboards though fwiw - just asking to help you find the best buy you can for the money you spend)
civic iris
thailand
pulsar folio
ahh, idk where you're best off buying from then tbh
I have some spare keyboards xD some I could consider giving away, but shipping to Thailand is probably too expensive for it to be worth
civic iris
yeah its kinda expensive
pulsar folio
judging off of their website, Keychron's cheapest keyboard is $49
pulsar folio
you'd probably want to look for a local retailer
otherwise, I've been really happy with my CoolerMaster keyboards - I was like "wtf? keyboards from CoolerMaster? can't possibly be particularly good..."
and man was I wrong, I liked my CoolerMasters way more than any Corsair or Razer keyboard I've owned in the past
here is the cheapest I could find btw, see if you can find that from a Thai retailer 🙂
civic iris
gotcha
pulsar folio
C2 is the same as the C1, just with numpad btw ($5 more expensive)
holy crap, shipping alone estimates to $200 if I were to ship from Norway to Thailand (with DHL) 😂
may as well just buy a plane ticket and fly down with it at that point lol 😂
ah, it seems I can find shipping for ~$40 - much more reasonable
had to check out of curiosity xD
plain hedge
so how high can you stretch your budget?
Well, I'm looking for a keyboard that's within about £100 ($120)
wanted to get the Nuphy Air75 and the case, which would have set me back $130
plain hedge
but it only sells in the US, so shipping it would cost even more
pulsar folio
Well, I'm looking for a keyboard that's within about £100 ($120)
Keycrhon is a pretty good pick then I'd say - they come with hotswap PCBs, so you could do a decent bit of customization after the fact too
could also just buy new case, PCB, etc, and carry over the switches and keycaps from your Keychron, if that's what you wish down the line
personally I didn't love the keycaps on my K6 Wireless, but I guess that's more of a preference kind of deal?
also keycaps are probably the easiest place to start with customization for a keyboard anyway 🙂
amber tartan
started off with pudding caps now ended in BoW
shy python
can someone send me a link on amazon for gateron blue optical switches with transparent top?
spark hatch
100 to 150 on keyboard
look at keychron and akko
spark hatch
no
indigo prism
Idk anything much about lubing so will it work ?
spark hatch
if you want to lube them just lube them properly
unkempt dome
what kind of oil ?
spark hatch
if you really want ive seen people put super thin oil into there switches
like 2 drops of oil, 1 on each side
spark hatch
yea dont do that
unkempt dome
clearly not a good idea
indigo prism
Won’t that lube it tho
unkempt dome
no it will gunk the switches
shy ridge
In a pinch, I would recommend sewing machine oil, or electric hair clipper lube oil.
spark hatch
if you're very lazy* in a pinch just wait to get the proper stuff and do it right
shy python
destroys keyboard Feelin lazy rn
spark hatch
lmoa
unkempt dome
Super lube and dielectric grease are about the only thing that I know won't damage the switches/stabs in the long term
spark hatch
^
indigo prism
*destroys keyboard* Feelin lazy rn
Lol
pulsar folio
Are Cherry MX Red Hyperglide any good?
nocturne creek
Heyjo what’s about the razer huntsman mini?
open crow
Heyjo what’s about the razer huntsman mini?
Mweh no
nocturne creek
Why?
open crow
Why dont u wanna go custom? @nocturne creek
snow summit
my H key is functioning like my tab key for some reason
urban panther
Htab
wheat island
any good around 60 dollars tkl keyboards?
onyx summit
This a good deal cad btw
plain hedge
This a good deal cad btw
dang that's a steal
welp shame its being sold only in Canada
:(
undone jay
This a good deal cad btw
yo wtf thats a great pricing
civic iris
is this worth it
unkempt dome
for 10$ it's worth it
civic iris
for 10$ it's worth it
ty
amber tartan
xxl in my case
washing machine
civic iris
i got it
narrow karma
washing machine
that doesnt break it and how many degrees?
unkempt dome
would do cold water
narrow karma
so a cold wash or could i soak it in a sink?
open oracle
i know this is keyboard chat but can it be mouse chat for a sec?
cat decided she didnt like my mouse and threw it off my desk and it broke
anyone have suggestions? look in the $50-$60 USD range
wireless is a must, and a dpi button
open oracle
swapping between sensitivities on the fly helps in a lot of the games i play
chilly perch
Probably not
open crow
swapping between sensitivities on the fly helps in a lot of the games i play
What game u play?
open oracle
fps mostly, different weapons feel better at different dpi's
open oracle
csgo, apex legends, overwatch
open crow
U dont want to i shift mid game tbh
Its gonna fuck up ur gameplay since u ill be switching every time
But g302 would be fine tbh
open oracle
so g305s since the g302s dont come in wireless flavors
open oracle
yee think im gonna get the g305, everyone seems to be suggesting it,
posted the same thing in multiple discords and half of everyone said the same thing
open crow
Yh pretty solid mouse
thorny ember
I have a weird keyboard issue I just noticed
some of my F keys only seem to register when pushed simultaneously with another key
its very strange
gusty pivot
This other key just so happens to be the FN key?
open crow
Haha imagine…
open crow
What key u need to push for it to work?
thorny ember
I only just noticed it because I recently returned to World of Warcraft
any key
if i push F1 and F2 they work
pushed alone they dont
open crow
U sure or is that only with a game?
thorny ember
no its in any application
open crow
Download Via software or use the web and check with the keytester
thorny ember
i dont know, i dont have any other applications that i typically need them
open crow
Has it worked before thats what imasking
thorny ember
i guess i never tested the keys
open crow
I do say contact keycron or where u got it from
Amazon might just give u a new keeb
If u got it there
thorny ember
yeah i've had it a few months i doubt they'll return it
gusty pivot
Have you tried opening it and looked at the switch?
open crow
I had my g502 for 6 months and a key broke and i got a new one next day
thorny ember
why would it be the switch if they work when pressed with something else
gusty pivot
yeah i've had it a few months i doubt they'll return it
Depends on how long warranty is.
open crow
Where u got it from?
gusty pivot
why would it be the switch if they work when pressed with something else
Fair. But maybe it's not pressing another key, but just applying some extra force on the keyboard. Having a look might help.
open crow
If that doesnt work contact the place u got it from
Ask for new one or let them try to fix it
Ima sleep
thorny ember
ok plugged in old keyboard and it doesnt have this issue
thats odd
ok i will contact keychron
wheat island
any good keyboards around 70 usd? tkl preferred
thorny ember
any good keyboards around 70 usd? tkl preferred
wired or wireless?
wheat island
wired or wireless?
I would rather it be wired but whatever is fine
thorny ember
do you want it to be rgb?
keychron has a really good selection
i'm sure the problem i am having is a fluke
i recommend hot-swappable switches in case you ever want to replace any in the future
is it a keyboard you'll use for explicit purposes? Like is it just gaming? Or is it general purpose use with some gaming
urban panther
any good keyboards around 70 usd? tkl preferred
Checkout Keychron K8/k8 Pro
Or akko has some decent stuff
wheat island
is it a keyboard you'll use for explicit purposes? Like is it just gaming? Or is...
Gaming, school, maybe coding. A lot of typing
I know the general thing about keyboards just not what to get
urban panther
Is wireless much worse?
It supports wired and bluetooth
wheat island
Aah cool
urban panther
If you can push the budget for the k8 pro, I would recommend that
but the regular k8 is still good
wheat island
How much diff
wheat island
What is general base
urban panther
urban panther
They also sell select skus on amazon
thorny ember
if its a general use typing use, don't get optical switches. tend to be more typos.
ionic briar
i would say get the one that feel heavy enough for your fingers
that is what leads to typos, accidental actuation cause the switches are too light
urban panther
if its a general use typing use, don't get optical switches. tend to be more typ...
can't say i agree with this in the slightest
thorny ember
well not personal experience, just reviewers...
urban panther
I get more typos on very light switches, but nothing to do with optical/contact based
thorny ember
its been a few months since i was shopping. potentially switches might have changed
ionic briar
more often than not its the weighting that throws ppl off, as most optical switches have pretty light spring
urban panther
yeah opticals marketed at gaming tend to be light with short actuation distance
but there are also countless contact based switches with similar parameters
but you can get gateron opticals in a variety of flavors
I wanna try some optical gat yellow or black
thorny ember
generally most of the keyboard reviewers i've watched have said they get more typos when using the gaming-oriented switches
urban panther
that would make sense
ionic briar
yea
those are really light
urban panther
I do prefer super light opticals for gaming (fps)
thorny ember
my current keyboard is gat reds
ionic briar
like gateron optical yellow actuates at 35gf
urban panther
most of my linears have been MX speed silver or corsair OPX (which are tuned quite like mx speed silver)
right now I am on akko matcha greens
thorny ember
like gateron optical yellow actuates at 35gf
for gaming or general use?
ionic briar
for gaming or general use?
an example of how optical switches have pretty light spring
unkempt dome
generally most of the keyboard reviewers i've watched have said they get more ty...
Gaming oriented switches is just some marketing bullshit anyway, you can game with any switches ... it's only a matter of preference for the user
unkempt dome
most of my linears have been MX speed silver or corsair OPX (which are tuned qui...
Cause they are ... corsair probably didn't want to pay for the cherry name and they sourced their switches elsewhere
ionic briar
Cause they are ... corsair probably didn't want to pay for the cherry name and t...
opx is optical tho?
its just that they are tuned to feel like speed silvers
unkempt dome
Yes indeed they are tuned the same as speed silver
idle citrus
idk if this goes here
but my macs key is kinda stuck
as in, it still moves, but only if i press down harder than the other keys
with normal typing force, it doesn't depress
onyx schooner
Help
Brand new everything everything good but this slot
The top right pin slot for f5 (left) is sunk in just so slightly
I'm pretty sure that's why it doesn't take 2 snaps to insert and why it doesn't work
Should I open the back and push a little bit but how do I open it
Fl esports mk870
Alright yup that's the problem
I got a small right angle object and the thing that holds the pins is lose so both the pins wiggle but not the other slots
amber tartan
your sockets are falling out
onyx schooner
your sockets are falling out
ok how do i fix
amber tartan
unless you have a solder pen you cant fix it
just put tape over it for now
itll help
tape as in the hot swap socket
ionic haven
Any recommendations on a cable for my KB that would vibe with my setup.
Top or Bottom?
Open to any other suggestions. Thanks!
mossy cypress
bottom connectors look cleaner
boreal rivet
Top or Bottom?
top
sweet plank
Top or Bottom?
I like the bottom one more, the black/gray balance is more significant, besides what @mossy cypress said, connectors look cleaner
unkempt dome
Bottom
nova scarab
Any recommendations on a cable for my KB that would vibe with my setup.
Bottom
Props to another blank set. Shame they aren't easier to acquire in color variety. But I'll probably stick with mine for a good while.
rotund scarab
Top or Bottom?
The darker one looks better. Bottom.
ionic haven
@nova scarab pics of your keyboard?
Thanks for all the recommendations everyone. Ya I think the darker does look better the more I look at it.
amber tartan
wouldve paired amazingly with gmk stealth
except its stuck in delay hell
they promised soon though
ionic haven
That is a really nice cable I like the little hits of gray on the connectors, it might disappear too much on my desk though when I run the lighting dim. Most of the time when in the room it's night time and I only have the LED strip in the crown molding and behind the 3D panels running at like 15% brightness. So having a cable that pops out more would be better.
nova scarab
<@413141926544670742> pics of your keyboard?
latent blaze
Any recommendations on a cable for my KB that would vibe with my setup.
Bottom everyday
shy python
I got ks 22 gateron blue switches for my optical hotdwappable
keychron k8
and they sold the ks 22 ones on their store as replacement ones
But I just CANT get them to fit?
jagged pewter
anyone know what to do when ur steelseries apex 5 randomly stops working
shy python
what are good budget keyboards that arent keychron
preferably id want them to have actual hotswappable switches
(I can only replace my broken switch with some propritary shit they no longer sell)
jagged pewter
my keyboard hs been in use for about a half year and today it suddenly stopped while my pc was on, ive used it almost every day for the last half year without issue, fac reset doesnt work, neither does firmware and i cant see it in the steelseries engine because it doesnt connect
what do i do
buy a new one?
unkempt dome
preferably id want them to have actual hotswappable switches
Keychron have actual hotswappable switch
unkempt dome
Well it's hotswappable with other optical switches
urban panther
Well it's hotswappable with other optical switches
As long as is designed for that optical socket. There are multiple competing optical sockets for some reason (I think cause everyone sort of decided to try optical, instead of cloning an existing design)
unkempt dome
They use gateron optical which is the most common one
Shouldn't be that hard to find replacement switches
Also how many optical socket is there ... probably not that many
urban panther
Also how many optical socket is there ... probably not that many
yeah there's a couple, but not that many
unkempt dome
And the other are probably not that popular specially if you have to replace switches for a keychron board
shy python
Well it's hotswappable with other optical switches
it onlt works with keychron optical switches
which are out of production
or atleast you cant buy them on their site because they are always "Out of stock"
chilly perch
lole
shy python
So spent 10 extra for nothing
After being angry il prolly still get another (cheaper) keychron keyboard
ENSURED its 3/5pin compatible
I have to decide between Gateron Brown and Blues
and idk which I should do
chilly perch
do u want click or borderline linear
urban panther
reds OOS?
shy python
Ye
urban panther
do you want loud or not
shy python
and I dont want to import a red one since US customs does not take kindly to US products
*Chinese
I wanna try a quieter one since the blues are LOUD
urban panther
get the browns
shy python
k
urban panther
is it hot swap?
shy python
yes It is 59 dollars
retro style (because its cheaper and looks nicer) and is 3/5pin compat
urban panther
yeah you can get some decent linears or better tactile later on
shy python
I think the blue switches are louder than like
conversation sound lol
I should send a sound sample my old kb is just LOUD
urban panther
I believe everyone should have a clicky board in case you need to seek revenge on a coworker or something
shy python
I believe everyone should have a clicky board in case you need to seek revenge o...
TRUE
I just annoy anyone I get into VC with
unkempt dome
or atleast you cant buy them on their site because they are always "Out of stock...
Out of stock doesn't mean out of production
Like just check on amazon you'll find plenty of gateron optical switches
urban glade
Lubing switches is fun
unkempt dome
you cant use gateron optical switches
You tried them ?
amber tartan
Lubing switches is fun
are those browns
urban glade
are those browns
Vintage browns ya
amber tartan
oh ok
viscid tapir
hello guys what would be a good mechanical keyboard for about 150 eur
i prefer cherry mx brown
i can only find blue and red
really hard to find brown all in black or red color and preferably 75% in size
unkempt dome
Why cherry brown ...
Check leopold if you're really set on cherry switches ... they might have 75%
Or varmilo or durgod
viscid tapir
idk i am welcome to switching to new type of switches
i just like brown so much it is tactile but not annoying like blue and not linear like red
but not neccessarely cherry switches any switches just the type of brown you know tacticle but not loud as blue
i really enjoyed trying THE UVI keyboard it had those browns but so soft like really soft it was almost as keys were line almost flat
i was looking at ducky and keychron
i am not that into rgb or gamer design i prefer minimalistic all black no colors maybe shades or red samurai design but i cannot find any
hard to find any product in europe almost any product i look at is not being available
plain hedge
hard to find any product in europe almost any product i look at is not being ava...
either that or they're sold in the US :(
viscid tapir
either that or they're sold in the US :(
agree sadly shipping so expensive from US to UK with all the import taxes
viscid tapir
either that or they're sold in the US :(
we have so many gpus and now there are no monitors and keyboards hahah
plain hedge
we have so many gpus and now there are no monitors and keyboards hahah
Amazon's UK website hardly has any variety when it comes to keyboards
u jus have to pay a crap ton of money for shipping if u want a nicer keyboard
viscid tapir
Amazon's UK website hardly has any variety when it comes to keyboards
yes i usually buy from DE or UK and it is all out of stock
viscid tapir
u jus have to pay a crap ton of money for shipping if u want a nicer keyboard
you pay almost as same for shipping than a product and it is mostly chinese products
plain hedge
yes i usually buy from DE or UK and it is all out of stock
or jus not available outright
the variety is very smol
u just have to go to specific company websites for good keyboards
and then u realise ur going to have to get it shipped
viscid tapir
or jus not available outright
the variety is very smol
we got a coupon for 150 eur and i was looking for some good 75% keyboards and i cannot use it anywhere
viscid tapir
and then u realise ur going to have to get it shipped
i remember buying from steelseries some products they did send them from denmark
urban glade
also hard disagree on lubing switches being fun
Ro59 just evaporates so I don’t have to be careful with layer thickness
brazen aspen
Ro59 just evaporates so I don’t have to be careful with layer thickness
Ooo that sounds much nicer, I need to find some ro59 to try out
amber tartan
Ro59 just evaporates so I don’t have to be careful with layer thickness
if it evaporates why lube in the first place
urban glade
if it evaporates why lube in the first place
i mean the excess evaporates. a layer cures onto the plastic. it means you cant really overlube so you dont have to put as much concentration in to prevent overlubing'
amber tartan
is this new keyboard tech i havent heard of yet
urban glade
no its years old
its a dry lube
so it barely affects sound
so its not what most ppl want, but i like it
boreal rivet
Mostly used on alps since regular greases and oils don't work well on those
I think people just do wax boil now though
urban glade
Mostly used on alps since regular greases and oils don't work well on those
yeah. you have to be especially stupid to torture yourself with doing it on mx
boreal rivet
urban glade
Ty
exotic wigeon
are outemu browns any good
amber tartan
no
unkempt dome
Meh
boreal rivet
oh but muh preference!
amber tartan
just bad taste in general
boreal rivet
yeah but if its vintage browns on a kustom its okay
amber tartan
yes blow me
boreal rivet
damn you really showed him huh
viscid tapir
what switched would you guys recommend for someone who is looking to buy a keyboard for like 150 eur or 200 eur i do enjoy brown but i am open to trying new
chilly perch
better tactiles
not sure what models in particular but im on browns rn and want to try something with more of a pronounced bump
viscid tapir
i have been using brown for several years because they are tactile but not as loud as blue
i like a low pressure like i tried uvi keyboard it was super soft it had a click but not too loud
spark hatch
what switched would you guys recommend for someone who is looking to buy a keybo...
akko has some nice tactiles. or I really enjoyed kenetic labs penguins
viscid tapir
thank you for the recommendation just looking for a good brand of switches are they available in europe
spark hatch
pengions are based on ergo clears which are a similar to browns, they just have a heavier bump
spark hatch
thank you for the recommendation just looking for a good brand of switches are t...
akko is a german company if I remember correctly. should be easy to get those
viscid tapir
interesting well i am looking for 75% keyboard mostly all black that would be available in europe i will for sure check them out i do like tactile and with low or soft pressure points i know some are very rough or loud
hard to try any since i am from slovenia not many choices other than cheap gaming ones or ducky
spark hatch
ah
spark hatch
get a second keyboard? or wheer to get the keycaps of the second picture?
viscid tapir
either first of all i would like to get all black that is quality build and keycaps of second that would fit or maybe second if it is actually good
i have been trying to search but i could not find the second one
i like the aesthetic but most importantly i would go all black 75% with something similar to cherry mx brown but better
spark hatch
for the keyboard id look at akko or keychrons boards
if you cant fidn that keycap set you could try making it on wasd keyboards
viscid tapir
interesting i hear keychron is good but i only found gray with orange esc
spark hatch
they make custom keycaps. they're decent quility and I haven't had any issues with them. but they keycaps are alittle thin for my liking and if you use rgb it'll shine through the plastic
spark hatch
interesting i hear keychron is good but i only found gray with orange esc
the Q series and v series are good
on a budget c series is pretty good too
viscid tapir
nice i appreciate it i will check it out
yes i am not that much into rgb myself more into design and quality
urban panther
I kinda wish the Q/V boards had a white backlit only pcb for a few bucks less
I don't see any value with RGB south facing LEDs, since most shine through caps are optimized for north facing
viscid tapir
i only like rgb if it comes with it to light it in a specific way if not i do not care never use rainbow
i just make my pc very low light blue
spark hatch
I kinda wish the Q/V boards had a white backlit only pcb for a few bucks less
I just dont use rgb
viscid tapir
would you prefer switching from brown to any other
urban panther
I just dont use rgb
I don't on my keychrons
viscid tapir
sadly keychron has no all black or black and red keycaps
spark hatch
would you prefer switching from brown to any other
personally yes, but if you dont mind browns its not a must
viscid tapir
interesting which tpye would you prefer
spark hatch
I personally like akko jelly blacks and kenetic labs penguins
viscid tapir
what kind of style is that
spark hatch
switches are all preference tho. so take what I use as a grain of salt, you gotta do your own reserch on what you think you'd like
spark hatch
what kind of style is that
jelly blacks are a box stem linear and penguins are a ergo clear tier tactile
urban panther
Ahhh
viscid tapir
i agree well i was thinking of going linear red or blue but red has no click and blue is too loud brown just seems like a nice middle ground and i am used to them
urban panther
No win key 
viscid tapir
i would try linear but i do not wanna waste money for something i would not later prefer
terse vessel
No win key <:grimacing:355075220585054209>
The left* diamond key acts as a windows key
spark hatch
do you have a tech sotre near you?
you could get an idea of what they're like if you whent to a tech store and tried sample units on display
viscid tapir
i am from slovenia we have nothing here hahah only logitech and redragon
i did try some blue and red in shops
i did find red so smooth but i did not use it for a longer time
spark hatch
you could still get an idea of what reds blues and browns feel like from logic and dragon
viscid tapir
i feels very responsive i am wondering if i would miss click
urban panther
It's a shame so many of the interesting custom boards are too small
Even tkl is hard to find
terse vessel
It's a shame so many of the interesting custom boards are too small
It was hard to find one for the HHKB but nature of topre
spark hatch
i feels very responsive i am wondering if i would miss click
reds are pretty light, jelly blacks are abit heavier linears
I personally find reds hard to type on, they're nice for gaming tho
viscid tapir
yes i hear black needs more force but is also linear
i would like ones that are softest
like lowest pressure force needed
i tried uvi keyboard which was so soft
terse vessel
Have you tried topre with ultra light domes?
Can be ridiculously light to actuate
But they have a tactile bump if that's up your alley
viscid tapir
i have not i would check them out sadly there is almost no private tech companies here that would let me try them
i like low profiles from logitech that are mechanical
i really like that tactile bump but not too loud
i do like to have it very responsive because when i type i hate it when keys are too hard and i miss out letters because i tend not to press too hard
unkempt dome
what switched would you guys recommend for someone who is looking to buy a keybo...
Akko lavender purple
Boba u4
Tecsee purple panda
Kailh box burnt orange
Halo true
unkempt dome
not sure what models in particular but im on browns rn and want to try something...
Check just above and remove the kailh box burnt orange cause they have a more rounded bump
Can add to that list durock t1
unkempt dome
i feels very responsive i am wondering if i would miss click
Yes most likely with something as light as red
Heavier linear are less likely to induce miss click
rapid basalt
If any keyboard enthusiasts would like to assist me in scouting out a new gaming keyboard please dm 😅
chilly perch
O yea i tried boba u4 for work they type like shit but i do like their bump
open crow
I like the boba u4t more tbh
chilly perch
wanted the u4 because they are quiet. They sure are quiet, but they feel fucking gross
rapid basalt
If any keyboard enthusiasts would like to assist me in scouting out a new gaming...
Please
unkempt dome
wanted the u4 because they are quiet. They sure are quiet, but they feel fucking...
Then u4t
chilly perch
I'll check em out
boreal rivet
U4t aren't silenced fyi
gloomy patrol
If any keyboard enthusiasts would like to assist me in scouting out a new gaming...
whats the budget like
what parts are you looking for
chilly perch
I think i overestimated how silent i need when i was at work
I got u4 to be completely silent, i think its honestly quieter than the dell membrane they gave me
rapid basalt
whats the budget like
I'm looking for something not expensive (probably around 130aud) mechanical switches, good build quality and RGB backlight. Hopefully an aluminum chassis and not horrendous key caps
Also 60% and I play fps
gloomy patrol
I'm looking for something not expensive (probably around 130aud) mechanical swit...
Ok you aren’t rlly gonna get a good alu keeb with that money
Oh god uh my advice is to save up for a keychron v series board
Best you can get on a budget
rapid basalt
Ok you aren’t rlly gonna get a good alu keeb with that money
Alub?
rapid basalt
Aluminum
oh then not
k6 wouldve been good but i couldnt find any in stock or at the same price with reds
gloomy patrol
k6 wouldve been good but i couldnt find any in stock or at the same price with r...
The v series boards are way better than the k series ones
rapid basalt
The v series boards are way better than the k series ones
oh, I was looking actually and found some, can I link them? (amazon)
gloomy patrol
oh, I was looking actually and found some, can I link them? (amazon)
Go ahead ig
rapid basalt
Go ahead ig
gloomy patrol
Pass on both since v series is a thing
rapid basalt
Check out the keychron au site
they have an au sitre
gloomy patrol
And well worth it
gloomy patrol
they have an au sitre
Yes
gloomy patrol
mhm
rapid basalt
which one specifically because to me, they're all almost the exact same
besides some design, maybe different switch
||@gloomy patrol thought i might ping you||
golden python
asking for a keyboard as a replacement for my mk270 set that broke, no i don't want a 90 dollar mechanical thing with cherry this and outemu that i just want a better kb
gloomy patrol
which one specifically because to me, they're all almost the exact same
all teh v eries boards are the same other than the layout
as long as it is v1/2/3/4 it is fine
rapid basalt
all teh v eries boards are the same other than the layout
theres like 2
rapid basalt
rapid basalt
what ever layout you like best
60-75%
gloomy patrol
let me link you the one im talking about
rapid basalt
only the fully assembled is available ;-;
gloomy patrol
were you looking for a kit?
rapid basalt
im not in a rush though
gloomy patrol
yea I would wait for a restock
rapid basalt
were you looking for a kit?
no no i don't know whether buying parts is cheaper or fully assembled
gloomy patrol
no no i don't know whether buying parts is cheaper or fully assembled
in this case its chaper to get the fully assembled
rapid basalt
in this case its chaper to get the fully assembled
out of all these, you are suggesting I get the v1
nvm theyre like really expensive
i might as well buy more storage 😅
gloomy patrol
its only $10 above your budget
gloomy patrol
out of all these, you are suggesting I get the v1
i mean the others are way above your budget so
still recommend saving up a bit for a v1
rapid basalt
still recommend saving up a bit for a v1
its in the budget? Am I looking at aud
gloomy patrol
its in the budget? Am I looking at aud
you said the budget was 130 aud?
gloomy patrol
I'm looking for something not expensive (probably around 130aud) mechanical swit...
^^ fits the budget right?
rapid basalt
how long usually do i wait
rapid basalt
^^ fits the budget right?
yeah, but how long am I expected to wait usually
for restock
Its less gaming, more enthusiast, no backlight as I usually play in the dark
lmao i need that rgb light
glossy sandal
yeah, but how long am I expected to wait usually
Keychron restocks fairly often
glossy sandal
asking for a keyboard as a replacement for my mk270 set that broke, no i don't w...
do you want the same size?
golden python
do you want the same size?
numpad is fairly useless
glossy sandal
I need a number
golden python
below 60
rapid basalt
Keychron restocks fairly often
Cool hopefully for Australia site to
golden python
don't tell me they're gaming keyboards
glossy sandal
don't tell me they're gaming keyboards
No?
Maybe the k552 can be qualified as such but they’re fairly docile
golden python
thanks for the help im getting another mk270
rapid basalt
Keychron restocks fairly often
Do you have any idea for something similar but with RGB backlight
glossy sandal
Do you have any idea for something similar but with RGB backlight
Keychron has backlight
south facing rgb..
rapid basalt
south facing rgb..
What
glossy sandal
Oh sorry forgot this isn’t a keyboard server @gloomy patrol invited me
It has backlight
rapid basalt
Keychron has backlight
Oh I'm blind tysm
rapid basalt
You can also buy a V4
I can't find it but it's probably expensive
glossy sandal
Oh I see, Australian keychron doesn’t stock the V4
rapid basalt
Oh I see, Australian keychron doesn’t stock the V4
Aw shucks
gloomy patrol
Oh sorry forgot this isn’t a keyboard server <@727630875143176232> invited me
Hm
Oh yea
glossy sandal
this is decent
Totally useable
this is a good fallback if you’ve exhausted all your options
rapid basalt
https://www.ple.com.au/Products/654540/keychron-v1-rgb-75-hot-swappable-mechanic...
I don't think brown is good for gaming
boreal rivet
Doesn't matter
boreal rivet
You'll be bottlenecked by your skill before a keyswitch is detrimental to your performance LOL
glossy sandal
yeah
if you buy a new keyboard and get better it’s placebo or your last one had something seriously wrong
rapid basalt
Because of the bump
rapid basalt
You'll be bottlenecked by your skill before a keyswitch is detrimental to your p...
LMAO that broke me a little
rapid basalt
if you buy a new keyboard and get better it’s placebo or your last one had somet...
I'm just used to linear
glossy sandal
I'm just used to linear
Yeah that’s fine but unless a switch is like 150g I don’t see it being a huge change
rapid basalt
Yeah that’s fine but unless a switch is like 150g I don’t see it being a huge ch...
Wait so should I get the brown switches it wait till restock
rapid basalt
Currently using red dragon fizz 60%
rapid basalt
You can buy the v1 later or the Akko now
I'm not that rich
glossy sandal
?
glossy sandal
“or”
glossy sandal
You’re fine, + if you get tired of linears the board is hotswapple so you could put in any you want
rapid basalt
You’re fine, + if you get tired of linears the board is hotswapple so you could ...
Wait you mean if I get sick of tactile?? Because brown
glossy sandal
No
rapid basalt
And I have spare reds
glossy sandal
If you get sick of the linears in the Akko
You can change them out
Or in the keychron aswell, you can do so for both.
rapid basalt
Oh ok I think I'm getting the v1 unless you think smooth thock is worth
glossy sandal
Oh ok I think I'm getting the v1 unless you think smooth thock is worth
what is smooth thock 💀
rapid basalt
what is smooth thock 💀
I have no idea lmao. But apparently jelly pink is smooth
And some called it thocky
rapid basalt
fr, im not much good in peripherals so forgive me 😅
glossy sandal
but yeah I guess the Akko sounds “thocky” whatever that means lol
rapid basalt
So is it worth to get the akko because of their switches?
glossy sandal
uhhh
gloomy patrol
And some called it thocky
most of that is keeb dependent
glossy sandal
I’ve tried their switches, they’re decent I guess?
gloomy patrol
and thock is capitalist propaganda
glossy sandal
Astro be quiet sound is not an equation now
gloomy patrol
:sadcat:
glossy sandal
So is it worth to get the akko because of their switches?
I mean I would get the keychron over the Akko because of a bunch of things but that isn’t really an option as of now, so just think about it and buy whichever appeals to you the most
Both of them are solid boards
rapid basalt
I mean I would get the keychron over the Akko because of a bunch of things but t...
I can wait since I'm not Ina rush and I think it looks nice. However if you think the switches for akko is worth then I'll get that
glossy sandal
they're good but i wouldn't buy the akko over the keychron for that reason alone.
boreal rivet
sound chasing is beta af
boreal rivet
fr
so much talk about thock but they refuse to see the solution and literal genesis of the term in front of them lol
glossy sandal
sound chasing is beta af
I don’t see anything wrong about trying to get a sound you like
but sure? if you like hating on things people want
boreal rivet
I don’t see anything wrong about trying to get a sound you like
you'll understand where I'm coming from the longer you stay in the hobby
glossy sandal
…
I’ve been in the hobby long enough to be jaded to terms like thock and clack and marbly and whatever, I don’t care about people chasing those sounds anymore, I just help achieve them
chilly perch
keyboard
chilly perch
i like my keybord
boreal rivet
I’ve been in the hobby long enough to be jaded to terms like thock and clack and...
almost there
glossy sandal
almost there
I get it, you’re bitter to hear terms thrown around left and right, I just don’t get bashing on people who use those terms and like what they entail
chilly perch
glossy sandal
it’ll get the job done
chilly perch
eventually a brave soul will make my perfect keybor
with some god darned north facing rgbs
glossy sandal
why do you seek north facing rgb?
chilly perch
for dark night gaeming and codering with no light
glossy sandal
and how do north orienting leds help with that?
chilly perch
because
1 sekond
this camera is VERY generous on how well the keys are lit
the leds are on max setting and they shine through like garbage
let me be clear, i knew these keys would not shine through well
but it is bad nontheless
boreal rivet
I get it, you’re bitter to hear terms thrown around left and right, I just don’t...
close but no cigar
glossy sandal
I can’t really relate as I don’t use rgb but sure?
chilly perch
from where i actually sit, i basically get raw LED shining straight into my eye, south facing is stupid and makes no sense
boreal rivet
im just disappointed in the direction this sound bs has pushed the hobby in 💀
glossy sandal
I mean thock is all but phased out at this point
boreal rivet
marbly isn't much better tbh
glossy sandal
There’s a few stragglers but if you talk to anyone who’s been in the hobby for more than like 3 weeks they’ll think thock and things like it are over saturated
boreal rivet
if you want to throw around sound descriptors just get into audio
glossy sandal
Hence why I don’t use those vague descriptors
I use low pitched and high pitched, I just ask people to link me a video of what sound they want; granted sound tests aren’t accurate but it’s a good guideline
glossy sandal
if you want to throw around sound descriptors just get into audio
Keyboards are expensive enough lol
boreal rivet
I use low pitched and high pitched, I just ask people to link me a video of what...
low pitched and high pitched are the most vague descriptors i've seen someone use for a keyboard LOL
glossy sandal
low pitched and high pitched are the most vague descriptors i've seen someone us...
not really but sure? low pitched is pretty universally understood, as is high pitched but what the hell does creamy mean
glossy sandal
icky
thorny nymph
Put paper in my keycaps to get my keyboard to thock
amber tartan
this is the worst soundtest ever
thorny nymph
Why is that?
amber tartan
constantly switching cameras, bad microphone quality and you didnt show what it was like without paper
amber tartan
probably not
thorny nymph
unkempt dome
https://www.amazon.com.au/Epomaker-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Keyboard-Programmable/dp...
Anne pro 2 is really outdated now and it was not that good to begin with, not when there's the kemove snowfox ... now both are outclassed by keychron and akko
Thock and clack doesn't mean anything, it's not a proper and accurate way to describe a sound
viscid tapir
Akko lavender purple
Boba u4
Tecsee purple panda
Kailh box burnt orange
Halo tr...
nice thank you are those like the ones that have quality for that price but wondering what style are they are they like cherry mx brown sorry i have not had a chance to try them
viscid tapir
Yes most likely with something as light as red
Heavier linear are less likely ...
yes i like to type in a very soft and fast way i hate thumping hahah i was thinking i might try going to red but i really enjoy my brown with click but not loud click like blue
prisma mural
would it be a moderately ok idea to replace the WASD keys on my keychron k2 (brown switches) with cherry mx speed silvers or reds?
amber tartan
it would be ok but its not morally ok
prisma mural
ah ic
prisma mural
just say you dont like browns
I have them for regular work and stuff
I want a hybrid keyboard if that makes any sense
prisma mural
just say you dont like browns
I don't love them?
amber tartan
no
prisma mural
oh
prisma mural
just say you dont like browns
how come?
amber tartan
I want a hybrid keyboard if that makes any sense
i think you just game
amber tartan
so you do
amber tartan
because theyre bad
prisma mural
I don't like them for gaming
amber tartan
why dont you like them
prisma mural
shoot g2g
unkempt dome
nice thank you are those like the ones that have quality for that price but wond...
Nothing imo is as bad as cherry brown ... those are barely tactile and they are scratchy ...
unkempt dome
yes i like to type in a very soft and fast way i hate thumping hahah i was think...
Brown don't click tho
viscid tapir
Brown don't click tho
no i like that bumb but no sound of click
viscid tapir
Nothing imo is as bad as cherry brown ... those are barely tactile and they are ...
this is why i prefer brown over blue i like the bump but no loud click tbh
harsh timber
guys I am new to the keyboard thing (always had used some standard logi or microsoft keyboard).
I have some view on the Keychron K8 hotswap.
Since I am used to membrane keyboard feeling, does the RED switch will feel weird ? or should I use brown (i don't want to hear a click).
(I would choose the hot swap version so I can easily change switch in the future if needed)
amber tartan
membrane keyboard feels like tactiles
so go brown
even though real tactiles feel a lot stronger than browns
harsh timber
ok i will check the brown feeling at a local shop thanks for the advice
harsh timber
also i've heard some have an alluminium frame. how can I know which one have it ?
amber tartan
most come with aluminum but thats for advanced modding
your keychron doesnt have that kind of modding
harsh timber
ok
glossy sandal
that’s like asking Samsung vs Apple
They make so much stuff there’s no clear answer
viscid tapir
brown mechanical switches
viscid tapir
prebuilt whole keyboard
glossy sandal
Gateron browns ig
You’re not getting a world of difference
Since they’re both rgb housings (which suck)
viscid tapir
just wondering if i am already buying
i do not care for rgb myself
was gonna get a keychron
but they are all gray
glossy sandal
Which one?
glossy sandal
what
glossy sandal
It’s a bit meh compared to the V1
viscid tapir
do you know if there is any european shop that has a good stock
viscid tapir
yea they are mostly out of stock except for colorful ones
i was also looking at akko ones
how are their switches
looking for tactile but not as loud as blue
and like the ones that have low pressure requirements
glossy sandal
So light tactiles
unkempt dome
gateron or kailh
Kailh
unkempt dome
looking for tactile but not as loud as blue
Tactile won't be as loud as blue ... blue are clicky switches
Tactile are tactile and that's it ... they don't click
glossy sandal
Kailh
On a prebuilt (aside from a few exceptions) different brands don’t really matter, it’s all the same rgb housing trash
amber tartan
gateron or kailh
if tactile or linear, gateron has a better collection, for clicky kalih is best
kalih also has great tactile options
(gateron im including some rebranded ones)
glossy sandal
even though real tactiles feel a lot stronger than browns
real?
browns are tactiles lol
amber tartan
different tactiles have different profiles
browns is known for being extremely weak
glossy sandal
light tactiles are very real
amber tartan
if youre into light tacts be my guest to use browns
but there are other great options
glossy sandal
I’ve been looking into buying pewters
Also I don’t really like light tactiles but they have a place and a following
glossy sandal
I don’t really read list
I actually try stuff out
And light tactiles definitely don’t deserve to be called “fake tactiles”
amber tartan
said most people regretting their purchase
glossy sandal
So like meetups aren’t a thing?
amber tartan
?
glossy sandal
You don’t have to buy everything you try
amber tartan
you mean like testing keyboards?
glossy sandal
just meet someone who has
amber tartan
sure if you can find one localized near you
viscid tapir
if tactile or linear, gateron has a better collection, for clicky kalih is best
interesting well i like tactile but not loud
viscid tapir
if tactile or linear, gateron has a better collection, for clicky kalih is best
i ws also checking akko but idk what type each is they have different colors
glossy sandal
i ws also checking akko but idk what type each is they have different colors
Just link the ones you’re interested in
viscid tapir
Just link the ones you’re interested in
just trying to find all black 75% size with tactile buttons with click but low sound and low pressure
viscid tapir
Just link the ones you’re interested in
hard to find any all black all they are with color and i am not a fan but i accept black and red like japanese samurai style or black and white
spark hatch
just trying to find all black 75% size with tactile buttons with click but low s...
what was wrong wit keychron?
viscid tapir
what was wrong wit keychron?
nothing i am just looking for all black not gray and orange
spark hatch
just get new keycaps
viscid tapir
just get new keycaps
they cost as almost as much as a keyboard
spark hatch
where you looking?
you can get sets for like 20$
amazon has caps, kenetic labs, drop.com, akko
glossy sandal
just trying to find all black 75% size with tactile buttons with click but low s...
So like a keychron v1?
glossy sandal
Mobile data sucks
pulsar folio
Need to find out which switches I want to go for
glossy sandal
What is it?
pulsar folio
What is what? Something else or my keyboard?
pulsar folio
didn't get the knob one
pulsar folio
yeah
pulsar folio
not sure, my first time building a pretty much custom keyboard 😮
glossy sandal
say, why have I see so many keychron q series boards
pulsar folio
I need to get some more switches for it first, I got some lubed lynx switches from gatreon atm, but gonna need some more of that or some more of something else
glossy sandal
Does Linus plug keychron a lot?
pulsar folio
I got a 36 pack, so filled the rest with the brown switches from my Discord keyboard
glossy sandal
I haven’t a slight idea seeing as I don’t watch Linus
glossy sandal
I got a 36 pack, so filled the rest with the brown switches from my Discord keyb...
😭
pulsar folio
because they're available
pulsar folio
it's also really good, supports both qmk and via
glossy sandal
?
pulsar folio
keychron's stuff
glossy sandal
Keychron doesn’t own qmk/via..
But if you mean keychron’s boards, yeah the entire q series supports qmk/via
spark hatch
I think they miss read
spark hatch
v series also has via doesnt it?
glossy sandal
it does
glossy sandal
who even ever said own?
read that as qmk/via being keychrons stuff
pulsar folio
idk how, but oh well, it happens 😛
viscid tapir
So like a keychron v1?
yes i was actually gonna get it if it would be all black and white or black and red
glossy sandal
you can buy a barebones and get whatever keycaps and switches you want
pulsar folio
that's what I did
pulsar folio
still unsure if I'll get some other keycaps or stick with the current ones, and I'm not sure what switches I want 😮
viscid tapir
So like a keychron v1?
i wish i could get like one of theses
glossy sandal
That’s GMK Bushido unless I’m wrong
unkempt dome
On a prebuilt (aside from a few exceptions) different brands don’t really matter...
It clearly matters as they will feel way different from each others
glossy sandal
So you’re saying a gateron brown will feel worlds different from a kailh brown
unkempt dome
And from cherry brown yes
glossy sandal
When they’re both meant to resemble a cherry brown
unkempt dome
They still feel different
glossy sandal
so near identical spring weight and bump shape doesn’t mean anything
unkempt dome
They are not near identical tho
spark hatch
gaterons bump is differnt, its actually noticeable while cherry's bump is practicaly non existant
glossy sandal
Pretooled cherry or?
unkempt dome
Kailh bump is really sharp compared to cherry brown
Spring is also heavier
spark hatch
and? kailh is still heavier
glossy sandal
Im saying kailh and gateron browns will feel similar
spark hatch
they do. they're resambling the same switch, they still feel differnt though
they cant copy design 1 to 1
glossy sandal
Obviously not but picking between then two I’d still go gateron
spark hatch
you've lost me, werent you saying they all feel the same?
unkempt dome
i ws also checking akko but idk what type each is they have different colors
it's an information that are really easy to find on akko website
glossy sandal
you've lost me, werent you saying they all feel the same?
They will resemble each other yes but there is minor differences
both being brown clones
viscid tapir
idk i am just looking something with click but not too loud i am open to new switches
from now i have only used cherry mx brown
i tried blue too loud and i tried red too smooth
75% in size all black maybe a little red on it and very low pressure
unkempt dome
With click means clicky switches
Meaning blue, green, box white/jade/navy/pale blue, clickiez and such
They have a dedicated mechanism to make noise
Like a click jacket or click bar
What you probably want is tactile ... those don't click, they don't have a click mechanism ... they have a tactile bump and that's it
urban panther
Are these any good?
It's probably very cheaply made and meant for kids
Just trying to be realistic about that type of product
hollow rain
Yeah that's fair. Expected it, but hoping, just in case
glossy sandal
Star Wars keyboard?
pulsar folio
I also got some cherry mx red hyperglide switches yesterday and man were they scratchy and very not premium feeling
I bought a pack of glorious lynx lubed switches, and man are they by far so much better feeling
ionic briar
damn, the tooling is already that worn out huh
pulsar folio
Although for me I kinda don’t like typing on them, it kinda feels like they are a little sticky and spend some time going back up, but idk
They’re linear switches though, and I’m used to tactile (brown mostly) switches
glossy sandal
I also got some cherry mx red hyperglide switches yesterday and man were they sc...
cherry switches are poor feeling stock, this is widely known
almost required to swap springs and lube + film
you really get what you put into cherry switches
pulsar folio
cherry switches are poor feeling stock, this is widely known
Yeah, I just got a little “excited” and dropped my brain in the shopping cart for a moment 😛 only bought like 10 though
pulsar folio
almost required to swap springs and lube + film
I might look at doing this type of stuff later on, but having spent like €400 already on the keyboard it’ll have to wait a little 😅
glossy sandal
I’m picking up some hyper glide blacks later
pulsar folio
I really like gatreons though, feels pretty good ootb usually, at least in my (limited) experience
glossy sandal
yeah that’s pretty much the general consensus
pulsar folio
I ordered some other switches too to try out, was some kailh ones
Among other things
urban panther
Akko is nice
glossy sandal
they blow a lot of other switches out of the water if you’re willing to put in the work
glossy sandal
Akko is nice
Akko is nice but they’re so damn light lol
pulsar folio
Kailh Polia is one of the ones I ordered for testing out
urban panther
I've only tried lavender and matcha
pulsar folio
Durock T1 Shrimp Silent is another one I ordered to test
glossy sandal
Matchas are one I haven’t tried
urban panther
35g bottomout is insane
Well don't get those next time lol
glossy sandal
I own the lighter version of the lavenders, ocean blues
glossy sandal
Well don't get those next time lol
yeah I don’t know anyone who would buy switches that light lol
urban panther
I like that style for gaming TBH
glossy sandal
miss-presses all around
pulsar folio
I got some prelubed glorious panda switches too, hoping I’ll like them 
urban panther
Light linear optical is best for fps (for me)
pulsar folio
What is optical really? Is it a switch type that fits in a hot swap PCB?
glossy sandal
No
urban panther
So I just keep 2 keyboards at my desk now
glossy sandal
Opticals rely on lasers while mechanicals rely on pins and stuff
you could make the argument that opticals are somewhat faster but that’s moot at this point
urban panther
Free from double click
glossy sandal
?
I’ve never ran into an issue with double clicking in keyboards, mechanical or not, just mice
urban panther
Thought it was common tbh
glossy sandal
checked in the server history of a keyboard related server
All mentions of double click are from mice
odd
pulsar folio
I've had keyboards that register two presses when I press once, but that was Corsair's keyboards with red switches (Cherry MX I believe)