peripherals

[ionic briar]

cause how optical switches works is more or less how your camera shutter works

[proper leaf]

they also consume more power

[ionic briar]

unless yours has adjustable actuation point in which case they have some reflective mirror to alter the light

[proper leaf]

but for 130 bucks for a very fast switch

it seems OK

[ionic briar]

i still thing the 60he is the one to go

[proper leaf]

for a premium it is a good price

[ionic briar]

you can adjust the actuation point to wherever you want

[proper leaf]

converted the he61 is 177 usd

vs 129

[ionic briar]

wooting has a usa pricing tho

[proper leaf]

I did not see the us one

[ionic briar]

175 for us folks

[proper leaf]

thats wack af

yeah 175

[proper leaf]

thats cool

I just want to know

the lekker x gateron vs the omnipoints

whats the superior switch

[ionic briar]

they are basically the same thing tbh
ommipoints are also manufactured by gateron
gimme one sec

[proper leaf]

the steelseries uses light and the wooting uses magnets

but both made by gateron

[ionic briar]

@JohnnySins#5437 so technically Lekker is better cause their sensing allows you to put your actuation point in a range from 0.1 to 3.9mm, whereas ommipoint's range is 0.2 to 3.8mm

[proper leaf]

Alright thank you

Now I can blow on my keyboard and it will register

yay

[ionic briar]

No, both ommipoint and Lekker are hall effect switches which need magnet to work

[proper leaf]

one sec

@ionic briar

umm

https://nl.steelseries.com/gaming-keyboards/apex-9-mini?language=english

are they wrong?

[ionic briar]

no they arent, cause its a different switch all together

thats the optipoint

[proper leaf]

oh yeah my bad

[ionic briar]

im talking about the ommipoint seen on the apex pro

[proper leaf]

nevermind

[ionic briar]

and compare that to the lekker

[proper leaf]

optipoint vs lekker the lekker wins ofc

[formal dragon]

[sweet thunder]

Wooting every day

[compact mirage]

is keychron k6 gateron red good?

about to buy it and might swap swtiches with gateron milky yellows later

is the k6 good model tho compared to the others? It was one of the cheap ones

[sweet thunder]

I mean it’s fine

[compact mirage]

any other boards u recommend at that price range?

[hoary ingot]

If I like how the spacebar sounds but don't like how sluggish/sticky it returns, I just need to work on the plastic part of the stabs right?

the stems themselves

[amber moat]

can anyone reccomend a decent quiet-keyed wireless keyboard for windows? After something similar to the Mac wireless keyboard

[feral dagger]

Have you checked the new logitech mx? They look pretty cool but quite overpriced

[amber moat]

thx will look it up

[proper leaf]

lekker ofc

[proper leaf]

keychron c1 is sorta good ig

But Im not sure if its wireless

[urban panther]

just wired

[proper leaf]

Oh ok

[thorny heart]

my gk68 kit is coming in tomorrow

And I bought durox stabilizers

I’m going to need to lube and holee mod it

[spark hatch]

nice

[hasty relic]

I decided on lubing some alpacas for my next set of switches

makes sense because I love the silent alpacas so much...and the normal alpacas with lube just mmmmmmm sound great

[exotic wigeon]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079HQM71L or https://www.amazon.com/Tecware-Spectre-Mechanical-Keyboard-Outemu/dp/B08C6ZVBGW

[spark hatch]

I'd get a keychron or Akko

[urban panther]

So I have a keychron Q3 with some akko switches

I get a lot of double and triple activations

Would the switches or pcb be the one to blame

[merry wyvern]

hm

I would probably say the pcb

But it’s hard to say

You would have to test the pcb with other switches

and vis versa

[spark hatch]

any specific key sor the whole board?

[urban panther]

there's multiple

but wouldn't say "its the whole board"

probably the switches then?

[spark hatch]

id try swapping the switches

[merry wyvern]

Well if it’s not the whole board it still could be the pcb

[urban panther]

Also happens on my V1, also akko switches

[spark hatch]

I doubt you'd have issue like that twice, keychron and akkos qc are pretty good from what ive seen

[latent blaze]

See if it happens on a different computer if you can

[urban panther]

They are on different computers

[pine ravine]

What's a good keybaord that's quiet? (Prefer something around 50$ if possible)

[high sparrow]

heya need inspiration for designing a case

using a split board

the klor by geigeigeist if that helps

polydactyl layout

list things that are ~ this shape ish

so that i can potentially draw inspiration 🙃

[amber tartan]

membrane keyboard at walmart for 5 dollars

[compact mirage]

i jsut got keychron k6 its very good

but more then 50

[graceful siren]

https://amzn.eu/d/5vAhznV how is this ?

[amber tartan]

looks cheap

mystery switches

[cobalt saffron]

Seems like a pretty generic plastic (or mostly plastic) keyboard with nondescript blue switches. I bet it's fine, but I wouldn't expect it to have high quality standards

[amber tartan]

ew low profile

keycaps are weird

is this a mockup

[bitter widget]

Tofu60 with pc plate durock v2 holee moded and lubed and boba u4ts lubed and filmed

Btw the boba u4ts don’t need films

Idk why I decided to put them on

[ionic briar]

you know it when you tried it

[half wind]

does the Logitech G513 have cross switches?

and what are cross switches

[narrow karma]

I need some advice how do the razer purple switches stack up against the razer green switches?

[spark hatch]

I wouldnt get razer

[urban panther]

^

[open totem]

I can't really answer that question, but I do have razer green switch for about 2 years now and I'm getting REALLY annoyed about the noise it make. So if you go for whatever keyboard/switch you want, do not get Clicky one if you get pretty sensitive to noise easily (I did not think I was sensitive but I am so idk if there is anyway you can test it)

[narrow karma]

Im used to the greens myself so haha if they make less noice than the greens il be happy

[open totem]

Oh no, Idk then sorry, I have never tried purple

[unkempt dome]

I wouldn't get a razer keyboard

If you really want a good clicky get something with kailh box white/jade/navy/speed bronze

[merry widget]

silent reds

[open crow]

[molten cliff]

or go optical and not be a mechanical scrub

[exotic wigeon]

Whats a good keyboard under $50?

[elder stone]

might as well go HE at that point

[molten cliff]

Just wear gloves

[unkempt dome]

Topre

Optical is not for me

[random ivy]

What's a good budget mech keyboard for typing?

[amber tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/x9t3ns/epomaker_with_big_apology_and_promises_to_do/

lmao

classic white label keyboards

[amber tartan]

any

everybody recommends keychron here

[spark hatch]

and akko :D

[boreal rivet]

Ass, buy topre

[amber tartan]

not really budget option

[boreal rivet]

Just don't be poor 🤨

[amber tartan]

yeah sure i just got a 600 dollar keyboard set to arrive in december

[boreal rivet]

Dayum who cares bro

[amber tartan]

yummy

rama works

[boreal rivet]

Rama the shithead

[urban glade]

Did you see he had to sell at least 1 of his cars lol

[boreal rivet]

Lmao no, I did see that weirdass rant he posted on insta with the red and black colorscheme

[urban glade]

Lmao

[long obsidian]

lmao

[ocean wharf]

I was just given an Anne pro 2, but I can't get the software to see it. Any suggestions?

[urban glade]

https://getannepro.com/pages/obinskit

[ocean wharf]

that's the exact program I'm running. The software just doesn't see the keyboard. I'm currently typing on it so I know my computer can see it

[urban glade]

strange

its been a long time since i had mine

[hasty relic]

Do y’all have any suggestions for removing stubborn switches?

There are 6 that absolutely refuse to come out

The other 62 came out perfectly fine

Well some of em required a decent amount of wiggling but not to the extent of these ones that won’t budge

I also need to reattach a diode completely but that should be easy

[hasty relic]

Nvm I figured it out. Just took an ungodly amount of pulling

[hardy grove]

Was finally able to upgrade my rk71 with tempest and paper foam and also some gateron pro yellows. This is my first custom keyboard.

Here’s a rough sound test I recorded on my phone

[vital robin]

why don't people make keyboard hubs anymore

[chilly perch]

what is a keyboard hub

[vital robin]

it's a (wired) keyboard with USB ports
so, a keyboard, but with a built-in USB hub

[chilly perch]

oh oh

right? i have no idea

I loved my old keyboard that had 2 like usb 2.0 ports on it

[vital robin]

exactly. they are like, the most genius things

[chilly perch]

now my keychron is all minimalist or whatever has doesn't have anything so its annoying to connect a wired controller

since my pc is like buried under my desk

idk ive had nkro keyboards for a lot of years

[vital robin]

thats quite nice.
I mean, DasKeyboard exist
but they are like $100. and you dont even get backlight for the price

[chilly perch]

yea my kb was $220

ish

[vital robin]

.. I don't know. I think any keyboard over $50 is overkill

[ionic briar]

Launch 75 is a keyboard that has a usb hub

[chilly perch]

Nah going up to like 100 you get noticable changes but yeah when you're at 200 its pretty premium materials and whatnot

[vital robin]

I do think a mechanical can be worth the money, but at the same time good'ol scissor will do the job just fine

[chilly perch]

They are worth it

I wouldn't want to use a membrane keyboard for a long time every day

[vital robin]

I do want deep-travel keys
they allow me to type more delibrately
.. this look decent (?)
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/keyboards/k845-mechanical-illuminated.html
No hub tho. (womp womp)

[nova scarab]

Do you need a hub?

[vital robin]

I sort of need a hub. But if I do, I will (probably) make my own. Or buy one.
The issue is basically if I plug my mouse/keyboard in then I have no spare USB ports.
If I don't, the USB I have is plenty
I can use logitech unifying devices (like I had been for however long), but the problem is they (the keyboard especially) are really not that good

[nova scarab]

There are very few that come with hubs anymore.

I think Logitech makes 3-4 that have a passthrough. Corsair has the K95 I think with a passthrough, and someone already mentioned Das

Das I think is the only actual hub that still exists, and it's 2 ports instead of one if I recall correctly.

The rest will be just passthroughs.

Actually, looks like Das doesn't do hubs anymore either. I have one of their originals in one of my drawers and it was a 2-port.

Their Prime 13 is $129 with backlight and a passthrough

[vital robin]

one of my other wild ideas is to make one myself
The only problem is, I don't have all that much time.

[boreal rivet]

why dont you just use a regular usb hub

[vital robin]

because I think they are stupid
It's a fair argument. But on the other hand, I don't have a good keyboard (literally), either, so ..

[placid lantern]

is this a good buy? im not a keyboard expert but ive heard great things about the analog optical switches from razer and this is the cheapest full size i could find. its the renewed version so it costs less and im also looking to know if amazons renewed is trustworthy

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Huntsman-Analog-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B08Z814Q8M/ref=sr_1_13?crid=ZQFOECGLPFNH&keywords=razer%2Bhuntsman&qid=1662872475&sprefix=razer%2Bhuntsman%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-13&th=1

[unkempt dome]

system 76 launch

https://system76.com/accessories/launch

[amber tartan]

https://i.imgur.com/SwsmCx6.jpg

2 usb + usbc port with a DAC

[ionic briar]

Is that from moondrop?

[boreal rivet]

Nope

The audio circuitry doesn't seem to be anything special

Probably on the same level as your pc output

[ionic briar]

Thought moondrop released another keyboard

[amber tartan]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114688.0

[ionic briar]

Yea, that's just a keyboard with an audio out

[amber tartan]

its also wireless

[ionic briar]

At least moondrop put the internal of the dawn into their keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Very gimmicky

That tiny haptic motor is not going to work out

And the color schemes look like shit imo 💀

[amber tartan]

ai03 already made a solenoid keyboard

[boreal rivet]

That's not a solenoid

[amber tartan]

ik but its a similar thing

[boreal rivet]

But not the same

So what's your point

[amber tartan]

?

[boreal rivet]

What we're you trying to accomplish by mentioning the solenoid board

[amber tartan]

its a similar thing but done better

its also alps switches

[boreal rivet]

Erm ok

So you admit the haptic motor won't work out

[amber tartan]

it probably wont

since this board is already half a year old

yet still no gb est

[boreal rivet]

Right so why mention ai's board in the first place then

[amber tartan]

because its interesting?

im here to make conversation

not justify a products existence

[boreal rivet]

Not really relevant to the conversation at hand though?

[amber tartan]

its a similar topic?

thats how you keep a conversation going?

[boreal rivet]

Is it relevant?

[amber tartan]

yes?

solenoid is similar to a haptic motor

so i mention it

[boreal rivet]

🤦‍♂️

[amber tartan]

but it appears you no longer want to converse so i wont continue it

[urban glade]

just use old kbds

ez

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787142550502506569/1018427865504698398/IMG_0560.jpg

[urban glade]

you just described 99% of the boards on gh lol

[boreal rivet]

Rip lmao

That's just how it is now huh

[urban glade]

yup

theres some cool stuff but rarely on gh

i've been procrastinating making a kingsaver pcb for months, but i finally have switches to build it so i really need to get around to it

[boreal rivet]

Handwire it

[urban glade]

i considered it, i have an aikon spare

but i want to save that for something especially weird

like the early boards where they cut the 60% cluster out of a g80 pcb and shit

[boreal rivet]

Ah fair

I got bored of my rf case so now I'm trying to slowly recreate it in cad

[urban glade]

gl

[boreal rivet]

Ty

[urban glade]

i'm looking for a hangul rf

[boreal rivet]

Having a shit caliper sucks

Gl with that too

[urban glade]

ty lol

yup it rlly does. its been hell trying to measure 356n plate with mine

kingsaver is nice but i wish it embraced the unique layout a bit more

[boreal rivet]

Wdym?

[urban glade]

it uses the wider modifiers of the wang, but other than that its standard tkl layout

http://imgur.com/BFMThmL.jpg

would be cool if it had the same nav cluster as the original

[boreal rivet]

I never noticed that

Pretty cool

That nav cluster is built different though

[urban glade]

its cool heh

i have browns for mine

i dont really expect to like it much, probably too tactile for me

but they were <$1 each so i couldnt resist

[boreal rivet]

Nice

Who'd you get them from

[urban glade]

a friend lol

[boreal rivet]

Makes sense lol

[urban glade]

cptbadass

btw duck ano is genuinely the worst i've seen

worse than all my otds combined

[boreal rivet]

No clue

I'm so out of date lmao

[urban glade]

have the ppl who shit on otd ano just never seen duck??

legit bro the whole thing is oxidising

[boreal rivet]

LOL

[urban glade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/989955235025932349/993605071235457104/IMG_9280.jpg

it should be silver

i cleaned it, water only

and then it looks like this a couple months later lol

[boreal rivet]

Looks nice in its own aged way ngl

[urban glade]

yea

oh theres also corrosion

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/365978565361139722/988440771088777266/A680B63B-98D0-4EFB-BA6F-66A3E8702D7F.jpg

[boreal rivet]

Huh

Sweet

[urban glade]

v scuffed board but still p cool

[boreal rivet]

Are you going to leave the corrosion as is?

[urban glade]

probably

i considered mixing something in resin to make it look metallic

and applying that

but i got it dirt cheap, i think i'd rather just keep it as is

[boreal rivet]

I would've just taken one of those silver sharpies and coloured over it

[urban glade]

some ppl suggested reano but that would cost nearly as much as the board for me - $300 with caps, 2 plates

and a pcb which is beyond saving

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/365978565361139722/988498186417090580/IMG_8945.jpg

[boreal rivet]

Removing the old ano can't cost that much

[urban glade]

afaik theres nowhere that does it well in uk for a fair price

so its pay a lot or pay a lot in shipping to and from usa

[boreal rivet]

Ah rip

[urban glade]

i hadnt actually thought of this, i may give it a try

[distant frost]

why anodize when you could cerakote it instead

[urban glade]

i prefer metallic texture of anodizing, especially with brushed finish

most of my kbds have brushed anodizing

[distant frost]

definitely an old kustoms finish preference. dont see much of that now a days.

personally not my bag but it certainly has character

[open crow]

[spark hatch]

the kb looks alr

what board is that?

[kindred owl]

Tofu

[sacred temple]

Hi! need some rec for a keyboard, I want a new mechanical keyboard and my perfect one would be something like:

1. Low Profile
2. Spanish layout (ISO)
3. Under 200
4. Don't care if it is Wired or Wireless, as far as it have low latency.

G915 should be ideal but is hard to find in Spanish so I think that I have to build one.

[spark hatch]

look at keychrons low profiles

[sacred temple]

I miss click and send the message before ending hahaha.

They dont have ISO in the low profiles ones... 😦

[spark hatch]

yea they do

[sacred temple]

I see, not in spanish... Need to find compatible keycaps in spanish.

[spark hatch]

theres not gonna be any boards (that ik of) that come stock with spanish keycaps you'll just have to get after market ones. if you're worried about compatibility any standard cherry stem keycaps will fit (unless you get the optical switch model)

[sacred temple]

Perfect!

[spark hatch]

you could also look at a nuphy board, but I think they only have 75%

and idk if they have iso

but they make a very nice low profile

[sacred temple]

Great!

thank you @spark hatch

[spark hatch]

np

[sacred temple]

Cant really find a good page with spanish layout for the low profile ones, any advice?

[ionic galleon]

Guys what is best keyboard

[spark hatch]

no best all preferance

what are tyou looking for in a keyboard?

[ionic galleon]

Number pad

Function keys

[boreal rivet]

Realforce 104u

[high sparrow]

Opticals also have same cross style stems no?

My skyloong one does atleast

[chrome raft]

does lubed switches feel heavier than non-lubed

[amber tartan]

no not really

[chilly perch]

Topre bad

[boreal rivet]

Pov: you exclusively use mx

[chilly perch]

Not only is topre bad but the boards they are attached to are all dogshit

[boreal rivet]

Pov: you've never tried topre

[chilly perch]

Here let's swap cables on our keyboards

Oh wait urs is soldered down :-(

[ionic briar]

so what?

[chilly perch]

Garbage

[ionic briar]

also, leopold's topre board has removable cable

[boreal rivet]

implying normal humans have such conversations

[chilly perch]

Implying a normal human would buy a topre board

[ionic briar]

also, you hate stock case?
money's out for some norbauer

[chilly perch]

What

[boreal rivet]

Norbauer overpriced tho

Ugly too

[boreal rivet]

Idk sounds reasonable to me

[chilly perch]

At least that Leopold one has a detachable cable. Good luck hitting f9 in the dark without feeling up ur keyboard tho

Well not f9 that one doesn't have an f Row lmao

Full sized or bust 👺

[ionic briar]

i mean its like 3x the thickness of most gb metal cases?

aesthetic is a choice one, i agree

[boreal rivet]

Eh?

Most of the cost in cnc is machining time

Thinner walls just mean more machining time

[boreal rivet]

Rf rgb lol

[chilly perch]

Back to the cable issue

[boreal rivet]

Mod it 🤷‍♂️

It's like a 5 minute process

[chilly perch]

TBF my current kb is garbage and has useless "rgb"

But I am embarrassed I paid for it, like I would be with an rf rgb

Seems like it'd be more than a 5 min job to mount a usb c socket and connect it to the board

[boreal rivet]

Man I bet your parents would be embarrassed they paid for you, especially with such a close-minded personality

[chilly perch]

👺

[boreal rivet]

Hot glue ez

[chilly perch]

Lol

It ain't closed minded to want standard features on a 250some dollar kb

[boreal rivet]

Again you can buy used if you choose

Being pedantic just makes you look bad

[ionic briar]

and if topre doesnt make sense to you, then dont dump on other for liking topre

[boreal rivet]

Well the guy thinks qmk is the Holy grail so idk

Mans deranged

Qmk is horrible to use

[chilly perch]

Qmk is just the best available it's not perfect

Learn to code I guess 💀

Not like rf boards will help you with that issue

[boreal rivet]

Nah I'm good

Scripting is the most I want to get into coding

[chilly perch]

Right well I personally want to actually control what my kb does

[boreal rivet]

Cool

That doesn't make other keyboards that don't allow you to do that bad tho

[chilly perch]

Kinda makes them strictly inferior

[boreal rivet]

Ehhhh

Objectively in some ways yes

But most people have different priorities when it comes to their keyboard lol

Like idkk

[chilly perch]

Let me be clear obviously I don't actually care what board you use

[boreal rivet]

Keyfeel

And sound as much as I hate to say it

[chilly perch]

Literally no kb has everything I want yet

[boreal rivet]

Hm you do seem really hung up about whether people think topre is bad idk

Almost like you don't want people to use them

[chilly perch]

I don't think it's a wise buy for someone to get a brand new 250 dollar topre board, no

[boreal rivet]

That's fair

That's why I say buy used

[chilly perch]

Sure idk what the used prices are but maybe that's in the realm of reason

If I can get one for like under 150 I'd prob try it once I got money

More than likely I'll dump it quickly tho

[boreal rivet]

Who asked tho

Anyway

China has cheap hhkbs

You can try there

[chilly perch]

Keyboard

[boreal rivet]

Rf104u

[chilly perch]

Board of key

[urban glade]

i bought brand new for £300 ^_^

[chilly perch]

💀💀

[amber tartan]

weird

[sleek bronze]

I want this SOO much

[plain hedge]

Any suggestions for affordable retro mechanical keyboards?

I've found some good ones by IQUNIX but they sell for about $200

Preferably wireless too

[spark hatch]

thats actually pretty neat, im assuming that's diy? or is it a kit

[spark hatch]

keychron and akko

[latent blaze]

akko has a nice one, keychron has nice retro caps,

[urban glade]

just buy a realforce. not wireless but very goood

used realforce so cheap ^_^

[pine musk]

4kg

[chrome raft]

That makes my wrist hurt just lookin at it.

[merry wyvern]

That’s… uhh

slim

[viscid kiln]

who has Corsair keybaord

[urban panther]

what about corsair keyboards?

[spark hatch]

they're bad but what you wanna know about them

[urban panther]

Maybe they're just running a poll

[spark hatch]

maybe lmao

[viscid kiln]

I was thinking k70 Corsair

pls recommend good one

red switch & quiet

[spark hatch]

anything else you want in a board?

[viscid kiln]

[urban panther]

huh

[spark hatch]

that tells me so much ty

budget?

[urban panther]

just get a keychron

[spark hatch]

or akko

[urban panther]

its the inevitable recommendation from this community

yeah akko is aight too

akko seems to have worse product stock

[spark hatch]

keychron c2 for budget, otherwise q series

[viscid kiln]

Budget 180

[urban panther]

I was looking at their stuff and so much is either sold out or not available anymore

[spark hatch]

yea, they have alot of differnt styles tho

keychron you get waht you see

[viscid kiln]

Mr quillsious which do you have

[spark hatch]

I have quite afew boards, but im currently daily driving keychron q1 (v1)

[urban panther]

are a lot of their boards "single production run" or something

[spark hatch]

maybe, I dont know aton about akkos boards. I've just heard they're good

[urban panther]

i use Q3 and V1 daily

they're aight

[spark hatch]

that would make sense if they were

cause they have a shit ton of designs

[urban panther]

I like their designs

[spark hatch]

hows the v1? its just a plastic version of q series right?

[urban panther]

pretty much

its alright

I prefer the higher angle for gaming

than my Q3

but I like the Q3 better for typing

[spark hatch]

ah

[urban panther]

Wish they would do an optical PCB for the Q series

[spark hatch]

that would be neat

[viscid kiln]

which keychron version is the best

[boreal grove]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Keyboard-Hotswappable-Mechanical-821-W1-15US-KR/dp/B08VNT658R thoughts?

i just got it for 20 usd at auction

[urban panther]

For $20? Not bad

[chilly perch]

20 sounds good

thousands of those keyboards were sold in gpu combo pairs and thrown out

[unkempt dome]

Optical pcb really limits the variety of switches you can put in there

[plain hedge]

Annoyingly with Akko, certain styles are very limited to specific switches and keyboard layouts

[unkempt dome]

Their latest keycaps can fit any ansi keyboard size

[plain hedge]

What's the difference between their CS jelly purple and blues?

Also this might sound dumb, but are there any switches that are clicky but not ungodly loud

[sleek bronze]

@spark hatch Yes it is DIY. The files are on github https://github.com/JannikB5825/Shoc
Shoc spaced 75%

@chrome raft Why would it hurt ??

[unkempt dome]

Not in the akko lineup

If you want good clicky kailh box white are about the most quiet of their box clicky lineup

[boreal rivet]

a less loud clicky is just a tactile if you think about it

[plain hedge]

basically 😂

buuuut, without the click at all :(

[unkempt dome]

Well are you looking for tactile or not so loud clicky ...

[boreal rivet]

I guess you could use something like the gmk muting clips

if they even sell them anymore

[plain hedge]

not so loud clicky i guess

[unkempt dome]

Then kailh box white most likely

[boreal rivet]

I wouldn't say that

[unkempt dome]

then what would you say

[plain hedge]

damn, I just found a really good keyboard for £110 ($130) but its not sold in the UK

:(

the nuphy air75 btw

[boreal rivet]

the gmk muting clips lol

clickbar is as loud or even louder than clickjacket

[next hatch]

What is the best keyboard for sound?

[plain hedge]

depends on what kind of sound u want

also the switches

[next hatch]

satisfying

[plain hedge]

you've gotta be more specific than that lol

also it really depends on the switches you choose

[next hatch]

bass sound?

[plain hedge]

ik that MX blues are very clicky

and MX reds are more fluid and smooth

[next hatch]

i use that only

i use mx blue

[plain hedge]

so like a deep thunky sorta keyboard sound?

[next hatch]

yeahhhhhhh

[plain hedge]

hmmm

i remember i had a huge ergonomic keyboard

that had really heavy keys

[next hatch]

oo

[boreal rivet]

Topre

[plain hedge]

so it'd make a very deep heavy sorta sound

[next hatch]

k

[next hatch]

???

[plain hedge]

try checking out retro keyboards
they're hard to come by but they tend to sound incredible

[boreal rivet]

It sounds like that's what you're looking for

[next hatch]

k

[plain hedge]

like a really old heavy looking keyboard

[next hatch]

ok

[boreal rivet]

Lmao

There are alps

Capacitive buckling spring

Non capacitive

Space invaders

[chrome raft]

Steelseries Apex Pro vs Corsair K100

[boreal rivet]

Not really that simple

And beamspring if you want to waste money

Smk as well

All the various foam & foils

Dome with slider

[plain hedge]

just searched them up
they sound really good, i think you'd like them

but they're quite hard to find

[cobalt eagle]

any opinions on black switches?

[unkempt dome]

Neither

[high vine]

personally, I love em, got mx black on my office kb and at home

but needs more force than regular switches - so I mean down to personal preference

[slim glen]

Are these switches any good? Got them for free from Amazon
Ajazz x Nacodex according to the packaging. Jelly Green

[boreal rivet]

why dont you try them out

[slim glen]

Haven't got the tools to put them in my keyboard. This is gonna be my first time changing switches
Currently have a £40 Drevo calibur V2 with outemu blue switches that I've been using for a couple years

Idk what makes a switch good

[boreal rivet]

you could put a keycap on one and just press it

[slow hull]

i was taking pictures for my new youtube video thumbnail for my first ever keyboard build and my cat jumped up on my desk, i dont think this picture could have come out better if i tried

[urban panther]

free is free lol

its a great deal even if they just become a desk/shelf ornament

[unkempt dome]

That drevo is soldered so you'll need a good soldering iron, solder, wick and some flux.

Or you could just get an hotswap board to try them, it will most likely be an upgrade vs the drevo

[slim glen]

Could i use a solder sucker instead of wick? And how important is flux?

How can I tell if a soldering iron is good? I see some kits in Amazon for around £20

[chilly perch]

Highly highly highly recommend getting a pinecil or ts100 if they are available.

[unkempt dome]

Flux is important

Solder sucker are ok but wick is still needed

[cobalt eagle]

use that as a thumbnail

[chilly perch]

Yeah flux is absolutely necessary unless you want to rip up countless pads

[cobalt eagle]

did i get a good deal on getting a mechanical keyboard with black switches, full size and rgb for only 20 bucks

[chilly perch]

If you're happy with the board I'd say yes

[prisma mural]

what is better: a keychron k2 or an evga z20?

ignoring price and stuff

[pulsar folio]

Keychron probably

Keychron specializes in keyboards, while EVGA most likely just found something that they rebranded - first time I hear of an EVGA keyboard tbf

[prisma mural]

here

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_5234&item_id=189231

[pulsar folio]

yeah, I know

idk if that sale is a good one or not, but it doesn't even have a hotswap PCB

I would personally avoid anything that isn't hotswap these days

[prisma mural]

PCB?

those are the keycaps right?

[prisma mural]

so like you can't replace the keycaps?

[pulsar folio]

switches, keycaps can be swapped

[prisma mural]

oh ok

[prisma mural]

tbh I don't really plan replacing the keycaps

but yeah I see what you mean

[pulsar folio]

it's nice to be able to swap the switches if one breaks, as opposed to swapping the entire keyboard

[prisma mural]

oh yeah

true

[pulsar folio]

also in case you in the future decide "oh, I want to try X switch type" and then realize "oh, darn! I need a new keyboard entirely then "

[prisma mural]

yeah I see what you mean

[prisma mural]

also where is a good place to buy switches?

just amazon or smth?

[pulsar folio]

also Keychron make good keyboards, objectively good - not just good for the price 😛

[prisma mural]

ah ok ic

[pulsar folio]

not sure, that depends where you live, but you linked Canada computers, so I reckon https://drop.com/, https://kbdfans.com/, and/or https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/ are good places to check out

[prisma mural]

hm ok ty

[boreal rivet]

https://switches.mx/

here

[prisma mural]

also I'm still kinda undecided on the switch type, what switch is most similar in feel to membrane low-profile switches (like the laptop keys)

[boreal rivet]

nothing

[prisma mural]

ik its very different

but which one is most similar?

[pulsar folio]

idk, probably a low profile mechanical keyboard, maybe with some silver switches?

[prisma mural]

I hear that browns are pretty similar?

[prisma mural]

ah ok

[boreal rivet]

no?

[pulsar folio]

but I have no idea tbf lol

[boreal rivet]

to be frank there is no mechanical switch that feels even remotely like a chiclet keyboard

[pulsar folio]

browns are similar in that they are tactile, but still quite different from laptop keyboards

[boreal rivet]

the "most similar" switch would be so different there wouldn't be a point

[pulsar folio]

yeah, probably

so it's probably better to just gun for something that has the properties you'd want to start getting used to

which again probably depends on what you want to be doing the most

[prisma mural]

hm ok

[prisma mural]

mostly just schoolwork but I also play games and stuff

minecraft, world of warships, sometimes valorant

[pulsar folio]

I've mainly tried blue, red, and brown switches

the options have started booming after I stopped shopping for different switch types 😛

now that I will be buying hotswap keyboards, it's another story, I will personally explore a few options

but all in all, the hunt for "the perfect keyboard" or "the perfect switch" will never end once you begin 😛

so whatever switch you decide to go for will most likely be good enough for you

[prisma mural]

yeah ig thats fair lol

[boreal rivet]

topre and endgame

[prisma mural]

hm ok

[boreal rivet]

its that easy

[pulsar folio]

lots of people like red switches for example, but then again there are so many new options now, like speed silver, which also seems to be a popular pick for more "mainstream" keyboard shopping

[prisma mural]

hm ok

what keyboards have speed silver?

I have like a $100 budget, tbh I don't think that a custom board of smth will fit into $100

[pulsar folio]

Keychron will, which would be a pretty decent foundation for exploring some options later on

and still give you a pretty solid keyboard experience ootb

[prisma mural]

keychron has speed silver??

I thought it was just red/blue/brown?

huh ok

[pulsar folio]

not sure if they do

but red is probably the closest one to speed silver

blue and browns are similar to each other, but blue has a clicky sound (kind of like clicking a pen)

cherry mx brown vs gatreon brown for example isn't the same feeling either

[prisma mural]

so like the only person who enjoys the sound is the person typing?

how so?

[pulsar folio]

which switch you use in which keyboard chassis also affect the typing feel - like the exact same switches feel way different in a different chassi

I have a ducky one 2 tkl and mini, the mini feels much nicer, or used to

my theory is because of the smaller chassis

[onyx summit]

IIRC keychorn is the deployment that ltt uses

[pulsar folio]

I personally hate the sound, but yeah

[pulsar folio]

yeah, they do, a lot of the time

I guess unless people have specific requests

[onyx summit]

or they have there own

[pulsar folio]

yeah

I brought my own keyboard to work xD I could have my boss order one

but haven't been able to find one I want him to order for me, so since I have too many keyboards at home anyway, I was just like "what the hell" xD

same with mousepad haha

[prisma mural]

can we just agree that this is the greatest mousepad ever?

[pulsar folio]

it looks cute

but it's way too small

[prisma mural]

do you get the pun?

[pulsar folio]

not sure I do

unless you meant "too small"

[prisma mural]

no lol

like elephant

and mouse

[pulsar folio]

oh

yeah, that's a nice one 😛

[rich dust]

Spilled a beer on this ages ago, I want to take it apart and clean it up because the space bar doesn't move smoothly anymore. What's the best way to clean it? I'm not a big keyboard person but can I wipe the moving parts with wd40 and get it back to its $50 keyboard state

Do I need to do something special to the stabilizers?

I've got a 915tkl that I use now but I want to take that for the living room since its wireless and switch back to this for my desk so I'm not carrying it room to room anymore

[unkempt dome]

Don't use wd40

It melts plastic

Use isopropyl alcohol or soap and water

[pulsar folio]

Yeah, don’t use WD40, use something like BW-100 (https://www.amazon.com/BW-100-Nonflammable-Electronic-Contact-Upsidedown/dp/B07FNBW47M) instead

[rich dust]

That says no residue. Don't I want the keys lubricated after I get the gunk out?

[pulsar folio]

Maybe, not sure

You could lube them yourself

Regardless I’m fairly sure whatever grease you have in there will have ruined any form of lube that used to be there

So if it was something there, it would likely need to be reapplied anyway

[rich dust]

Yeah, that's the issue, I spilled some beer on there and now the space bar feels bad

[pulsar folio]

Most keyboards are factory lubed though, but I can’t say for certain that there is no form of lubrication or whatever in there that would be affected by BW-100

I saw tronics fix use it to fix joysticks and buttons on Xbox controllers

[rich dust]

It has cherry mx red switches, the soldered kind

I assume they were lubricated

[pulsar folio]

I would personally take the chance with BW-100 anyway

factory lubed keyboard switches are rare, especially in prebuilt keyboards

which keyboard is it?

[rich dust]

G.SKILL KM360 Professional Tenkeyless Mechanical Keyboard, Cherry MX Red, ABS Dual Injection Keycap, (White) https://a.co/d/gCtmvID

This one

[pulsar folio]

I'm fairly confident my assumptions are correct, but since it's your keyboard, and they are assumptions, I won't have you go ahead and do it without having expressed it as such 😛

either way, soldered or not, you can always apply new lube to keyboard switches

tell you what, try some BW-100, if it ruins your keyboard more, I'll buy you a new one worth $50, or ship you one of mine 😛

[rich dust]

Yeah, It's not mission critical. I'll probably give that stuff a shot and get some appropriate key lubricant too

[pulsar folio]

though I won't cover things caused by shorted circuits as a result of fluids

no idea how to lube switches, let alone soldered switches, I just know it's possible - though I think it's not necessary, but more like a nice bonus to un-lubed switches

[rich dust]

Nah, still works fine to push buttons. I won't hold you to it or anything , I've got some other keyboards but this is my only other tenkeyless

[pulsar folio]

it's usually not too much friction in these types of applications, so lubricants aren't really necessary

[rich dust]

Maybe I'll just tag it with a bucket of water and try to dissolve the residue out. I thought all keyboards were lubricated TIL

I've got time to let it dry

[pulsar folio]

I tried water before, and it ended up fucking up the keyboard over time

I would probably try BW-100 long before water

I did let mine dry - guess it could've been caused by the coke spill in the first place

[rich dust]

Ahh, fair.

Yeah, I figured it would be toast after my spill but really it's just the space bar that doesn't move correctly (since I only hit it from the edge and it gets cocked sideways)

Anyway project for tomorrow thx for the help

[pulsar folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvl-S5Z6v5s

here is the video by TronicsFix btw, where he uses BW-100

fairly sure the cases would be fairly similar (between a controller and a keyboard) in terms of lubrication 🙂

[amber tartan]

wait what

your keyboard is not easily openable

i doubt you can clean much

you can spray bw100 in the switches but it wont make your spacebar any smoother

[pulsar folio]

well, if there is sticky grease from dried up beer, I'm fairly sure BW-100 would clean most of it out

or did I misunderstand the properties of BW-100?

[amber tartan]

it probably would help with the cleaning, but it def wont make your keyboard smoother

[pulsar folio]

besides, I would try anything before water pretty much and since you can safely spray BW-100 without worrying about residue or shorts, it can't (from what I understand anyway) hurt

[pulsar folio]

if the "lack of smoothness" is caused by it being sticky, it probably will though(?)

[amber tartan]

idk this is the first time ive seen something like this

[pulsar folio]

same, I saw it for the first time in the video I linked 😛

[amber tartan]

probably try it out

[pulsar folio]

it's kind of like WD-40 for electronics it seems, but instead of needing a way to escape again (such as through a screw hole or whatever), it evaporates, if I understood it correctly that is

[amber tartan]

this cleaning solution looks useful for other stuff anyway

[amber tartan]

wd-40 is lubricant not a cleaning solution

also it destroys plastic

[pulsar folio]

WD-40 is a penetration cleaning utility, with no lubrication fwiw (if anyone were to wonder about it), and it's not particularly suitable for electronics

did I get that wrong? I was fairly sure WD-40 isn't lubricating

WD-40 is oil based, so probably not a good idea to use on plastic - actually take that with a grain of salt, I will have to look it up to be sure that what I'm saying is accurate lol

[amber tartan]

i highly DO NOT recommend using wd-40 on your keyboard

[pulsar folio]

or any electronics

WD-40 isn't for electronics

[amber tartan]

"WD-40 Multi-Use Product is a unique, special blend of lubricants"

[pulsar folio]

yeah, fair - I'll eat my words! 😛

I was just sure I read somewhere it's used for cleaning out dirt and crap in tight spots (it has a penetrating function)

[amber tartan]

i recommend Super Lube 51004 if youre going to lube without disassembling your switches or keyboard

[pulsar folio]

how would that work? basically just applying it down underneath the stem/cross thing where you fit your keycaps?

how effective is it compared to disassembling switches?

also; can you disassemble switches without desoldering them? so kinda use your keyboard as a lube station for the bottom half of the switch? 😛

(now I'm asking because I need to learn more about this, as I'm looking to get my hands dirty with building my own keyboards and what not )

[amber tartan]

press down on the switch and spray it into the switch

[amber tartan]

def not as even as if you lubed it on hand

[pulsar folio]

definitely remember this incorrectly fwiw - or at least, if I read it, I read some bad info... WD-40 does lubricate...
again!; WD-40 is not appropriate for electronics, especially not keyboards (feel like it's better to be safe than sorry, since it came up so many times in here xD)

[amber tartan]

no you cant

[pulsar folio]

ah, shame

[amber tartan]

once you switch is seated into the hole, the top housing is clamped in between them

[pulsar folio]

but yeah, I'm curious to see how well BW-100 will work in their case, so curious that I offered to buy them a new keyboard if it fucked the keyboard more 😛

ahh, I see

[amber tartan]

ive seen people try to yank out the top housing, but they just break the clamp and break the switch

[pulsar folio]

yeah, so a bit random how good of a result you get then? depending on the amount you apply, the angle you apply it at, your switches, etc?

[pulsar folio]

yeah, no, let's not start suggesting finnicky workarounds to circumvent something that's really easy to do 😛 though it does require a bit of practice with a soldering iron beforehand, and it does take a fair bit of time to desolder and resolder switches (although I'm sure someone with a fair bit of soldering experience would do a full size keyboard in 10-20 minutes maybe)

[amber tartan]

keyboard enthusiasts hate unevenly lube switches so superlube is on their hate list, but if you just want your switches a bit smoother, its a great option

[amber tartan]

the amount applied is probably the deal breaker for most

[pulsar folio]

well, if your experience is a regular consumer just buying prebuilt keyboards, that aren't even lubed, I'm sure it'll be miles better than unlubed mass produced keyboards 😛

[amber tartan]

yep

[pulsar folio]

yeah, I can see applying too much will make it "more even" (or rather, get the lube all over), but the experience will probably not necessarily be very good

so my take-away from it is; if you have 0 soldering experience, you have no experience with lubed switches, and want to look into the option, but don't want to buy a new keyboard with hotswap PCB; it's a good route to take to get a taste of what you can do

[amber tartan]

also if you miss you can accidentally lube your keycaps

[pulsar folio]

ah yeah, so you'd probably want to use like q-tips or something to clean it up afterwards

[amber tartan]

heres a video about someone spray lubing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qkcoskdhik

[pulsar folio]

ah, nice, ty! might give it a watch if I remember to after work 😛

I will probably personally just do it the proper way, because I'm going away from non-hotswap keyboards

and/or learning how to (de)solder

[amber tartan]

desolder is the easy part

tbh

[pulsar folio]

yeah, resoldering is the hard part 😛

although I learned that using the right solder helps a ton lol

I used some whack solder, and man was it ever a nightmare, I "rage quit" and threw my soldering equipment in the bin, and went to sleep 😂 (this was somewhat early an evening some time ago)

picked it out of the bin, and tried another solder the next time, and it still was tricky to get the soldering (not on a keyboard) right, but it was actually doable now

[unkempt dome]

The switches are most likely not lube
The stabs usually are slightly lubed

[clear panther]

prob not best to spray lube tho...its just inconsistent which makes it bad

[amber tartan]

i, already said that.

[clear panther]

ah ok

[plain hedge]

right so I'm a bit picky with keyboards

and so far had virtually no success finding a keyboard I really like

the Akko 3068B seems promising, but the customisation is quite limited

and I don't really know If I can afford to hot swap all the switches and keycaps

[clear panther]

what is your price range for a full built?

[unkempt dome]

where do you see the customization is limited ?

[plain hedge]

not much variation in sizes available

idrk much about jelly switches either, but they are hotswappable ig

[unkempt dome]

which variation would you like to be ... it's a keyboard

[clear panther]

jelly switches are higher pitched

and they feel great

but size wise, you can get other sizes of keyboard

not just that one

[unkempt dome]

3068b is a 65% and that's it

[clear panther]

yeah

if you wanted 75% they have the 5075S

tho oos on the akko site

[unkempt dome]

or any other size they have ...

[clear panther]

yup

could also do keychron

[unkempt dome]

sounds like someone is trying to find some reason not to buy

[normal patio]

Hey do you guys know any competitor to the Logitech G513 Red Switch ? Out of stock here, looking for something similar

[craggy island]

any 1 here that own a Logitech g613 for longer then 1 a 2 years, I have a problem the past month that it drains batteries faster then normally.
tried dive-rent batteries but still the same in 5 day the batteries are drained, when in the past i could use it for 1 a 2 months with out to change the batteries.

[pulsar folio]

I ordered these switches:

• Tecsee Sapphire 63.5g
• Durock T1 Shrimp Silent
• Kailh Silver Speed
  I wonder what they are like

[amber tartan]

another T1 model

nice one durock

[pulsar folio]

never heard of any of these switches 😛 apart from Kailh

just ordered some I was curious about haha

[plain hedge]

which ones are tactile?

i know that the pink ones aren't

I think the Jelly Blue and Purples are tactile

but I'm not sure which one's to get

since I haven't got a switch tester

is there a significant difference between the two?

[plain hedge]

the only ones I know are the browns my brother's rk61 has, and razer's awful green switches

[clear panther]

Ocean blue and jelly blue, jelly purple

[plain hedge]

ok thanks

[clear panther]

Both will feel the same except for weight. I recommend the heavier 60g ones

Ocean blues are 60

I think jelly blue may be

[plain hedge]

I wanna specifically know about Jelly Purple and Jelly Blue

[clear panther]

High pitch. Sounds great

[plain hedge]

apparently Jelly Blues are more similar to MX Blues

[clear panther]

Weight wise?

[plain hedge]

sound i think

[plain hedge]

probably

they are smooth from what I've seen

like creamy switch smooth

[clear panther]

They do

They are smooth even without lubing and a bit higher pitch

I have the oceans, CS green and the jelly black

Jelly are a bit of a diff sound but all great

[plain hedge]

hmm, well I really want a set of tactile switches that are smooth and deep sounding

so I'd probably have to hotswap the switches if I do get an Akko keyboard

[clear panther]

If you do a board like the one you wanted, and then hotswap out the switches to something deeper, it gives you a option into seeing you like the higher pitch

I thought it wasn't a bad high pitch

[plain hedge]

from what i know now, the Jelly switches sound great

I just want something that sounds deeper

like straight out of an IBM model M level deep

[clear panther]

I hear ya

[plain hedge]

I had a clunky perixx keyboard before that had incredibly heavy and deep membrane keys

but it required so much actuation force, and they were so loud I hated using them

[narrow karma]

Anyone have any good 75% keyboard recommendations

[versed yoke]

How do i click the little thing between the keyboard and the key on? I’ve been trying to put the two little bumps in the holes on the left but it won’t stay

[spark hatch]

keychron q1/v1 or akko

[open crow]

Wait what ur trying to do?

[short spire]

Anyone know a good 100$ 70% or 65% keyboard whit rgb backlight?

[open crow]

Akko has some good keebs

3068 it was called i think

U like linears or tactile?

[short spire]

whats the difrence?

[open crow]

Linear is without a bump and tactile is with a bump

For gaming i suggest linearfor workstation work tactiles are my fav

[short spire]

Oooo

[open crow]

What switches do they offer with it?

[short spire]

1sec let me check

[open crow]

[short spire]

Akko cs wine whit and red

[open crow]

O i think there both linear

U could search the specs on that website just copy paste switch name

Scroll down to spec list and make lil screen of it

[short spire]

?...

The White is tactile and the red is linear

[open crow]

Search up the switch “akko cs white” and “akko cs red”

[open crow]

O

What switch u using rn?

[short spire]

I dont have a keyboard lol

[open crow]

Oww

What uusing the keeb for?

[short spire]

Gaming

[open crow]

Could u send me screenshot of the spec list on the switches

The white is prob the best one of those two for gaming unless u like a bump

[open crow]

O the whites are tactile

Pretty light switches

I do think the reds would be fine

I do lube the stabs if u can

[short spire]

If i dont lube them will they still be fine?

[open crow]

Switches are fine

But the stabilizers

U wanna lube for sure

205g0 lube and a small brush would be fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usNx1_d0HbQ&t=511s

[short spire]

Are they that bad?...

[open crow]

No

Non lubed stabs are always scratchy and make noise

Its just a thing

Lubing stabs is a quick 15min job tbh

[short spire]

Oh ok

[open crow]

It kinda eliminates 60-75% of the rattle or scratzy noises

If done right ofcourse

[short spire]

Alright

[open crow]

At the accessorie tab in the akko website ucan get some lube (or even a kit) with it

Uill need 1 brush, 205g0 lube, keycap puller, switch puller

[short spire]

Ooo

[open crow]

Does that keeb use plate mounted or screw in stabs?

Might say in the description

[short spire]

Hmm 1 sec

[open crow]

Alr

[short spire]

Plate

[short spire]

I dont see any

[open crow]

Try google keeb name and “ plate mounted or screw in stabs?”

[short spire]

Its plate mounted but i dont see a kit

[open crow]

Nothin?

Rly

[short spire]

Ye Just mousemats and cables

[open crow]

I see

What country u live in?

[short spire]

Norway

[open crow]

Hmm

Does mykeyboard.eu have lube kits or supplies for u?

Without it having too much shipping

[short spire]

Ill check

Well they have lube but No kit

[open crow]

They have the things i say?

[open crow]

These

[short spire]

Nope

Only the lube

[open crow]

Candykeys.com?

Ima sleep u can dm or ping me so i see it trmw

[short spire]

Ok ye but the keycap pullers are out of stock

[open crow]

Get some of amazon

Rest is available there?

Ima sleep now

Gn

[short spire]

Yep

Gn

[open crow]

Alr then i say u have ur self a keeb

[dusty flower]

Could I pay someone here $102948229848 to build me the quietest keyboard in existence

[chilly perch]

The quietest keyboard is no keybor

[dusty flower]

Quietest custom keyboard possible

[chilly perch]

a phone

touchscreen very quietly

[unkempt dome]

The stabs comes factory lubed
You'll be fine if you don't lube them any more than that
Doesn't make a difference if you get linear or tactile for gaming, it's only a matter of preference

[amber tartan]

for 4 dollars

[dusty flower]

That’s not terrifying

[worn cloak]

if that had usbc instead of a, it would almost be useful for a phone or tablet keyboard

[unkempt dome]

I just use my 3068b for my phone

[plain hedge]

aren't they pre-lubed?

[open crow]

stabilizers no, some switches are

but its pretty inconsistent prelube

some companies make the prelube good some are shtit

[unkempt dome]

akko stabs are pre lubed

[plain hedge]

oh, so I'd be all good then if i got an Akko keyboard

[open crow]

yh

[plain hedge]

their jelly switches seem pretty good

but i prefer something deeper sounding

[open crow]

o yh sometimes when they get delivered installed ut its better to lube them urself

[open crow]

u like linears?

[unkempt dome]

it's only preference

[elder stone]

Akko is awesome, still tempted to get a mod003 once I see one in stock somewhere

[plain hedge]

tactiles

[open crow]

o

u could film and lube them

or get diff ones

[pulsar folio]

Crap, Q3 QMK barebone is expensive

€200 roughly here 😳

[chilly perch]

I think I spend 220ish usd on my q6

[pulsar folio]

Yeah, but I have to get switches and key caps on top of the price as well haha

Ugh, guess I’ll just steal the switches off of my Discord keyboard for the time being 😛

[plain hedge]

oh god, nnonono don't do that

that keyboard is apparently awful

[spark hatch]

ofc it is, why would discord know how to make a keyboard

[pulsar folio]

Kono made it, not Discord

[pulsar folio]

it's significantly nicer than anything else I've used though 😮

besides, I'm just taking the switches off (they are just regular lubed brown switches) 😛

[spark hatch]

sorry bad wording, yea ik. its still a shitty board for the price, its wayy to expensive for what you're getting

[pulsar folio]

it's merch though tbf

I will probably just keep it as a decoration piece 😛

[urban panther]

why didn't discord just partner with Drop on a keycap set

[spark hatch]

they still could have done a better job. its a shitty board that they slapped custom keycaps on. If I remember that keyboard is smthn like 60-80$ but the discord model was selling for 200$

[urban panther]

Yeah it's basically a cash grab

[pulsar folio]

it was a donation kind of gig though, to some organization - but yeah, it's just a Kono 84 keyboard, with custom colors and keycaps

[spark hatch]

oh was it? dont remember

still tho. could have teamed with a nicer keyboard brand

[pulsar folio]

think it's also because of the store etc - afaik Kono provides a store as well as building the keyboard(s)

but yeah, I guess they could've teamed up with Drop or something

[spark hatch]

theres a list of better manufactures they could have talked with

its too bad it didnt turn out nice. I was gonna get it. I fucking loved there color scheme and the style of the board

[pulsar folio]

yeah, I like the keyboard as well, but then again I haven't really tried anything besides "normie" prebuilts 😛

but at least I got the keycaps etc now

I was wrong about the store, that's DOTEXE or whatever I think

so not sure why they landed on Kono for keyboards - probably just about money tbh

[unkempt dome]

Drop keyboard quality is only meh ... and those are sold for premium

[pulsar folio]

never bought anything from Drop, just too inconvenient for me 😛

but I don't doubt that for a second tbh

there is a sea of custom keyboard alternatives, because everyone and their mom builds keyboards now

[weary raft]

sup guys

[cunning anvil]

sup

[weary raft]

kibort

[prisma mural]

keychron c1 vs k2 vs evga z15?

[undone cypress]

https://iqunix.store/collections/zx75-series/products/iqunix-zx75-dark-side-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

I bought this I hope it’s insane

[prisma mural]

someone?

[urban panther]

K2 is a bit nicer than C1, but really depends if wireless matters to you or not

Z15 only if it is very very cheap

I think someone got a Z15 for under $20 recently

[prisma mural]

like lets say that their the same price

[prisma mural]

yeah they're on sale

[urban panther]

keychron, personally

[prisma mural]

how come?

[urban panther]

subjective preference

[prisma mural]

ah ok

[urban panther]

[prisma mural]

which one has the best quality?

[urban panther]

having never used any of them, not positive

[prisma mural]

ah ok

[urban panther]

afaik K2 should have better build than C1

no idea about the EVGA

is the K2 same price as C1?

[prisma mural]

yeah I think so

k2 might be a tad more expensive but its only like a $10 difference

[urban panther]

C-series is keychrons super budget
K-series is their midrange/wireless

Q-series is premium custom
V-series is budget custom

[prisma mural]

ah ic

[cunning anvil]

does anyone have experience modifying layouts for miryoku zmk?

i keep getting cmake errors that i dont understand exactly

[nova scarab]

Outside of LTT classifieds, or geekhack, are there good classifieds for posting some items related to keyboards?

[spark hatch]

like keyboard videos? yea theres lots of keyboard guys

[nova scarab]

For sale.

[spark hatch]

oh oops. im not sure sorry. someone else might have an idea tho