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If I send u a website can u find me 1 please
any tips for perfectly geting the membrane right so all the keys work normaly
nvm jsut got it after 3 trys
just search for keychron / akko / royal kludge
they all basically do the same thing
Why is the left and an fn key upside down?
And the ⬆️ arrow key
I understand the spacebar, but why the other ones
easier
more ergonomic, i use left alt a lot
right fn is for ease of knowing what to press since I have layers that make use of fn
Ah okay
ah okay
don't have to do it with flat keycap profile ...
I'm fine with any profile as long as it's not oem or SA
XDA caps are cheap and if you can type on flat profile it's actually quite nice
Are you ok with buying clones?
ye
20-40 in what currency then
and is longer shipping time (ie. aliexpress) ok?
ALSO
need to know a few things
Does your board have north of south facing LEDs and what switches are in it
I believe notth
north*
max 2 weeks
and do you know the switch?
Oh
50€ im ok with that aswell
Oil kings still have a tiny bit of interference with cherry caps
Do you have a preferred keycap profile?
Most switches with north facing LEDs actually have lots of interference
not really
What would you recommend if i may ask
Do you prefer flat or sculpted (curved) profiles?
sculpted i think… im not to sure
take a look at this
XDA and DSA are called flat because they have no curvature
sculped means more sculpted to your hand so it's curved
Everything from KAT and above im okay with
ok
You might be able to find some Akko ASA caps for abt 50eur
Can you find em used anywhere?
i wouldnt know
yrs
the moulds are the same for all the caps basically, so they end up having the best designs for the price
since you're ok with clones, and amazon preferred because of shipping times
I've seen this one around and it's decent
Sunzit PBT Keycaps Specificatie 1. Aantal toetsen: 129 toetsen 2. Hoogte: Cherry profiel. 3. Materiaal: PBT 4. Geschikt voor de meeste mechanische toetsenborden, niet geschikt voor Corsair, Logitech, Razer, Sairui mechanische toetsenborden. Opmerking 1. Dit is keycaps, geen toetsenbord. Toetsenbo...
just know it's a complete clone
yea that's based on the Groupbuy Blue Moon
and maybe would you know any switch that sounds similar to the gateron oil kings thats cheaper/same prices
linear
ohh you haven't gotten oil kings
i wouldnt know how to describe
yes.
i only lubed one keyboard so i dont have much experience
mm KTT strawberry MAYBE?
cherry profile keycaps from akko will fit with akko switches
ill take a look at them, thank you so much
right but if aiming for a deep sound like Gateron oil king I don't think akko has anything?
I don't care about sound so I don't know
But why is there a problem if i get cherry profile keycaps with gateron oil kings?
the third row keycap might collide with the switch housing before bottoming
to solve it you just have to put a layer of paper in the stem receptacle on the switch
about 0.003" is all that is neded to solve the issue
ohh
thats nothing
i dont work with inches but i think i grt it
get*
but i dont know if my keyboard is north or south facing
it doesnt matter, gateron oil kings dont have the problem
black inks do
0.003" is 0,076 mm
yes
oil king are long pole ?
no but the back of the switch been fixed so it does bottom out completely
ok
Yes it is out of stock everywhere and i dont know when it it is coming back
If anyone knows any other kb thats around $100 and 75% then lmk
maybe one of the mod line
What is that?
Can you send a link or something
Im specifically trying to get the black and sliver color with silver lubed switches
but it's more expensive than your budget
It is wayy too much and i will have to mod it and do everything which idk how to do that well
why would you have to mod it
yes
But i hav to buy that separately
well yes ...
not much keyboard will come with silver lubed switches
Do u know any other kb then?
Im fine with any other similar switch
I dont know much about kb if u couldnt tell lol
When the heck is akko selling black shine thrus
there's two dents on the back of the switch (not led side) + very tight margins for cherry caps to barely clear it
been 2 or 3 weeks now
Oh wait
They r available?
Lol I haven't been keeping track
Do you think the shine capability will be better than my Amazon shine thrus
Thanks i will look into it
Help
can someone explain how to fix this: when im playing a game, and for example, i move with W forward, i release the key, but it still keeps going, and then i have to replug my keyboard (its not physical sticky keys) i use a hyperx alloy fps pro, BUT i play on a macbook pro
if wire itself came out, take switch out and put wire back in
if the bottom snapped then uh
gg
get some everglide pandas
6.25x U stabilizer is what you need
youll also need to know how to solder
cause hyperx board is not hotswap
Logitech G512 Lightsync Gx Brown Tactile
or
Keychron K8 Wireless Rgb Gater Hot Swap Brown
for the same price
100 bucks
70% programming 30% gaming
I have G512 carbon blue and it has been great. No keys have died yet (which I cannot say about my previous mechanical keyboard). The paint has come off the left control key though and some of the keys are starting to look a little scuffed. I am also starting to think I should have tried Brown keys. The keyboard feels absolutely fabulous, but not the fastest for typing. I do not know the other keyboard.
It is fairly loud too, but I do not really care. I just try to mute myself when I type.
nice
i dont like blues, ill get the brown
tho i never had a mechanical keyboard
only laptops
Yeah I might try brown one day too.
I used to be a very fast typer, but this keyboard slows me down somewhat
How come?
I guess because they are blue? Need to hit them a bit harder feels like
I never thought of that, that a keyboard could slow me down
Have you ever tried brown or red?
They resist being pressed down a bit, almost like typing on an old fashioned type writer
Ive never touched a mechanical one in my life
I think brown are super smooth and need very light touch only, blue is more for gaming I guess? but I am not entirely sure
Btw, is your logitech keyboard wireless?
Quote: So, Red switches are the lightest and easiest to press, followed by Brown and then Blue. Blue switches require a little more distance before actuation, but all bottom out at 4mm. MX Reds are linear and silent, meaning there's no tactile or audible click.
Sounds like Red are even lighter. So Brown may be a good middle of the road
No this is cabled, and I did not need wireless. My keyboard (Carbon) comes with braided cable, it's super high quality. I think that is the difference between this keyboard and the one you are looking at. Not sure why I would need braided cable though lol, I do not see the cable has much wear and tear
honest answer, go look towards Akko if you're into tactile boards
That's the thing, im not "into" anything, ive only ever used a laptop lol
but brown or tactile or whatever they're called
sound like they're good for me
By the way, one downside to this keyboard, I do not think you can replace the switches. So if you change your mind and regret your choice of switches (brown, blue) you cannot swap them out.
yeah, Akko's tactile switches are nicer than Gateron/Kailh brown honestly
Replaceable switches is a huge pro if you can find it, even if one breaks can just buy a new one
something like Akko 5075B, ACR87 or ACR pro 75 would be awesome for the money
they also sell them as barebone kits, so you can add your own switches and keycaps
none of those available
lol
damn
are you in the US or?
nope
so... you're in?
should be able to get it via Epomaker
try searching here
Epomaker also sells on Amazon in multiple European countries
depending on where in eastern Europe you are, could just import it
Nah the site i linked is definitely the only option for me
its like an ebay style site
Think ill go with the G512
I would much rather go with K8 out of the two
way better build quality on them regardless
just get it via a retailer, not Keychron directly
their own CS is a pain
Nah the only way for me to get it affordably is on the black market
someone selling Keychron K8 Wireless Rgb Gater Hot Swap Brown Uk English Bla for 120eur
and something is telling me its the best deal ill find
lmao
oh, I know the pain that is the Serbian market
I'm Dutch, but have a good friend in Serbia
Yeah life is hard without amazon
yeah, one nice thing is that they give you back the difference, and will pay for more if needed
so it's a maximum, not an estimation
So nord are you getting your keyboards second-hand? or are they new? I would be weary of broken or unresponsive keys
oh really
yeah, that's the nice thing about Amazon specifically
They're new, the companies that sell them just operate under the radar
I have had refunds from Amazon too on shipping, nothing so extravagant though
Just the other day I got a notice saying I got such and such back for import fees on such and such items
I bought an iphone 11 for around 500eur a few years back from one of those shops, brand new
i asked for the fiscal bill
or if i could pay with a card
and they we're like
Oh, then it would be around 700eur
oh btw, there's a few people selling an Akko 3087
tax evasion ababy
not as nice as the ACR or 5075, but still a very nice board
Eh, it's a different city, i think the K8 is what ill go with
yeah, K8 is fine
outside of Keychron's CS being a bit weird, they're good boards
I just dont even know if its charging or replacable batteries or whatev
it's rechargeable
all good
and depending on the exact version, it could be hotswap
differs between versions of it
What you do with it doesn't matter much
Keychron is well built, would get that one.
Check the German akko website
its fine, mech keyboards enable customization to almost anything, this is tailored to my coding needs
If you say so ... I would find it annoying
akko set?
Yes
errr
set name?
anywhere I can still buy keyboard interference washer things?
O rings?
So what keyboard do you guys recommend for corsair?
I like their icue program and the current diy style of mechanical keyboard seem a bit too much for me
None
And i like having a numpad
They got nice wireless options?
Aw seems like no media controls
Ig best one for full sized with media controls. Mechanical and wireless.
are gat reds just gat yellows but less smooth?
not really
gat red is gat yellow with a lighter spring
they use the same tooling, so smoothness should be comparable
cause this amazon page is showing me same product
but diff pricing
Amazon.com.au: Keychron k12
this is sold by the same company harris technology, its aluminium brown rgb and is 109 but the rest are around 129?
do i take the risk?
i have mixed feelings about this thing
i wanna throw it away but at the same time i don't
but this will have to go with it
I ordered 2,,bundles...
now I have 2
brah I should've ordered some razer shit
They keys sound like ass
and the enter key has a fucking screech
does anyone here know if the ducky one 3 full size is a good keyboard or if there are better ones to go for(i need full size, mx brown switches and rgb(and white))
best mouse in my opinion is logitech g502 hero, both lightspeed and wired are good.
Thx
keyboard im looking for advise as well zs
Heard it's not bad ... I would not go with cherry switches tho
Bakeneko65 Endgame feel, affordably priced CannonKeys is proud to offer an affordable in-stock aluminum keyboard with great sound and feel. Originally designed by kkatano, the Bakeneko65 is an open-source keyboard featuring an o-ring gasket. An o-ring between the plate and PCB provides friction to hold the plate/PCB
Would go for that maybe
Or just an akko board
what would you do? i currently have a steelseries apex 5 with steelseries blue switches. they feel good but are just to loud. i found that cherry brown are like the blue but without as much noise. is this true and what other switches are nice?
Cherry are not that good compared to other brands and that's it
While clones have improved a lot, I'd be hesitant to say "don't" get them
Why ... they are better 95% of the time
Better how? There's certainly more variety but I've seen them fail far sooner than Cherry...especially early on
There's just outemu base line that is about the same as cherry
Thanks
Better feeling, more diversity, better tolerance, less wobble, better sound
And ... smoother
They have gotten better over the years, but that's mainly due to newer and younger mech buyers that didn't see all the fails and bad batches from the clones
Never had a switch fail on me
Cherry is outdated and overpriced compared to the others and that's about it ... it's like someone getting a corsair/razer/logitech board ... you pay premium for the name and the brand reputation while getting a just ordinary product
Admittedly, it's more Gateron/Kailh/Razer that had more prevalent issues. Outemu has been a bit different.
I wouldn't agree with that analogy. While they are "overpriced," they are a proven and quality brand. I would never compare Cherry to any gaming brand, lol.
Well I would ... corsair still use cherry switches and there's a lot of people that went through here that had their board fail withing 2 years
what brands would you reccomand?
Cherry is a different company altogether, because they're mainly industrial/commercial. They were reluctant to even do things related to gaming. They had set production schedules, and set thresholds and it was hard to get switches back in the day. That and price, are why clones became a thing in the first place.
But along with that, clones were/are still not at the same level in general.
Some gaming brands stay with Cherry mainly for recognition, and because it's a known quantity. Switching to a clone brings a lot of different variables into it.
Come became a thing cause pattent expired
There are some keyboards that hit Amazon, and while 80% are probably fine, there's batches of reviews in there where the switches are the limiting factor and brands like Corsair and such don't want to deal with that. Eventually that will change.
If you don't choose a keyboard with Cherry switches, you could go with Outemu switches. And realistically, Kailh and Gateron will probably be fine nowadays generally.
If you opt for a hot-swap keyboard, and have some extra switches, you'll mitigate any switch that might fail anyways.
Gateron have nice switches if you don't get the baseline red/brown/blue
I would go akko switches or tecsee if you want linear ... bit more expensive than the gateron milky yellow but still worth it
For tactile well akko lavender purple or jelly purple
Let me ask you, dr0ybox, as you seem knowledgeable....do you know any tactile switches over 80cN that aren't impossible to find?
I don't
80cn tactile force or bottom out ?
maybe the clikiez when turned into tactile
Like, heavier than Green/Grey
but those are really expensive
I have Greys right now, but want even heavier.
Also have a Green board, but rarely use it now.
Ya, I was lucky to find them. People don't want heavy so it's been tough. A couple brands made some but they're so rare.
I'll probably have to change out springs as a last resort.
yeah the clickies when you put them in tactile mode have a tactile point over 100g
1 Order = 10x Switches Our long awaited premium clicky switch is finally here! After years of development and countless rounds of prototyping, samples, and delays, what better gift is there than to release the Clickiez on Christmas day? Clickiez™ are offered in two weights: 40g bottom out (73g peak force, 32g actuation
the spring is 75g tho ...
in clicky mode they are supposed to be better than the kailh box navy
some say just to swap the spring of the grey for something heavier
Those might be an option, but ya, might end up with another spring at some point.
Not in a rush, I have a keycap set I'm unlikely to change and aluminum case for my board, and Greys are fine.
Just thinking about a potential next option.
yeah there's always something new to try ... now I want to try grey
my guess would be that they will be too heavy for my liking but I won't know if I never try them
I went from Blue -> Green -> Clears -> Greys.....if Greys never became an option on the keyboard I got, I don't know what I'd be using right now.
I tried other stuff before then, but always stuck with Clears until the Greys. Then I've been much more content with them than anything else.
I tried to many switches to list them all ... some I probably forgot that i even have them
can anyone tell me, is there any switch taht feels like a buckling spring thats a bit sharper and uses cherry stem
“red bull gives you winnnngs”
(not sponsored)
ever heard of the zeal clickies?
i think that might be it im not too sure
see for yourself
i have heard something of zeal, ive also heard of box jades and cealious v2
not that I know of ... never heard of anything like that either ...
clickiez are more like alps switches than buckling springs
kailh box clicky line are just different kind of clicky that use click bar instead of click jacket ... still don't feel like buckling springs imo
Trying to set up keyboard and mouse for xbox. Is it possible to use a laptop as a adapter?
doesn't xbox have native support for keyboard and mouse ?
Not on all games….
wow that suck
Wdym as an adapter
you can’t just use the laptop as an adaptor for you Xbox
You can use the laptop to play games thought
Then you will be able to use keyboard and mouse
Anyone have any recommendations on how to display extra key caps sets they have?
grab a cheapo board and place it onto that
like get a K552 and just remove the cable
Unless you need full size
That's what i was leaning towards but was curious if anyone had other setups. Thanks!
the shine through ones?
Nah
Their normal ones
On the K12
Like it’s smooth and dry
Dk how to describe it
But if u hit ur nail on it when u type
Like u cringe a little
oh yea, those are laser ablated
the caps is rather smooth and the legend might feel like a dip to your fingers
Hi, all,
I want to buy a new keyboard and wondered if the new optomechanical switches are worth over extra features. I'd appreciate recommendations for keyboards/comparisons/thoughts:
Here are my must features:
• Detachable numpad
• Scroll wheels (for audio, optionally for other things, or more wheels for other things)
• Macro-programmable - bonus point for dedicated macro keys
• Full RGB control
• Low-actuation, short-travel distance switches, non-tactile and generally quiet - so something like RX Reds Cheery ones such as the Reds, Silents and Speed
• Good build quality
• Not tall
• Full keyboard
Preferences:
• Wireless
• Comes with a wrist rest/has an accompanying wrist rest
I'm debating with myself whether to buy an optomechanical keyboard, such as the ROG Claymore II (I have the v1 and like it a lot), versus the Everest Max, which has some extra nice features the Claymore II doesn't have such as the LED-screened macro keys and the screen, but its detachable numpad connects via cable rather than locks into they keyboard and is connected physically directly.
Any thoughts?
no one ever says optomechanical, people just call them optical
also most gaming keyboards have meh quality control
can anyone explain why lube is used on switches and what effect it has, thanks
just got myself a keychron k2 k3 with gateron browns, my first mechanical keyboard and it feels great
keychron epicc
protects the switch from wear but mostly to smoothen the travel and makes the sound way less harsh
any brands you recommend?
oh wait... if the keyboard isn't hot swappable then it sounds like a pain
just some light soldering
its not hard to learn
but its a lot more time consuming
they were dumb questions and i got them answered
i dont want people searching for the same question and getting dead ended
waste of their time lol
lube brands
yeah, it sounds like a fun project for later when I have some time to kill
krytox and trybosis is 2 common ones
thanks 🙂
^
That is by far the best lube for switches
And if you want to, lube your stabs with it too
But I would recommend dielectric grease for stabs
If you can get it
But krytox 205g0 is okay if you don’t want to buy the grease
Yeah
One of my friends tried something where he lubed the wire with grease and then the housing and stem with krytox
and it turned out pretty nice ngl
their caps are fine but very unexceptional
which switches are nice to click and pretty quiet
Reds
That doesn't make sense ... click and quiet are the opposite
If you meant tactility then reds are not the ones
Akko lavender purple, boba u4, tecsee purple panda etc.
i want switches quiet enough to not be heard from outside of my room so i can play till 4 am but i also want the clickyness
clickyness as in feel or sound?
feel
uh I guess I'll just use this channel because I'm unsure what other one to use and keyboards seem pretty similar to mice...
whats a decent wireless mouse under $50 CAD (about $35 USD)
You can’t get a decent wireless mouse for under $50 cad
you can get very nice wired mice for under that
is the g305 any good?
I mean it’s not horrible
i like myn
whats a decent cheap-ish wireless mouse then?
There is also the Corsair harpoon wireless which is $49
hm ok
where?
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@prisma mural
I'd personally get teh g305
hmm
Yeah I agree
It’s not the best mouse
But it will do you well
alr
why not?
Well there is just better mice
Oh?
yeah
I used to use an rpi 4 as a desktop pc
turns out is sucks so I build one, but still am using the rpi official mouse and keyboard
no it’s not
no?
Play advanced without wires or limits. Logitech G305 LIGHTSPEED is a wireless gaming mouse designed for high-performance in your favorite PC games. G305 features the next-gen Logitech G HERO optical sensor with 200 to 12,000 DPI sensitivity for competition-level accuracy. LIGHTSPEED wireless tech...
g305 is pretty cheap
ahh
ok yeah
might as well just get that like whats $10 if I'm going to use is for years
also what are your thoughts on the redragon k582?
Eh
don’t get it
Get the k552 if anything
for me its just cheap and it has linear switches which I like (and its full)
alr
get a keychron c1 or 2
id reccomend saving for it over reddragon
but the k552 is a tenkeyless and it’s smaller so you save mouse space
^
Keychron boards are very nice
okay
then you can mod it too
Custom keebs are the best
I prefer thocc
And poppy
not clack tho
thocc?
ahh
is that good?
hm its not cheap tho
Nope
$110 or gateon red
Nice keebs are not cheap
whereas only $55 for the k552
do you have any other suggestions?
I mean like any budget options?
keychrons c1 and c2 are pretty cheap at 40$~
roykludge also has some
nuuuu
rk61
don’t get a royal kludge
Nooooo
rk81 or what ever it is
nooooo
Epomaker has good keebs as well
Everything
Keychron C1 Mechanical Keyboard. Tenkeyless Layout. Connects via wired type-c cable and users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Gateron Switches. 15+ RGB Backlight
I mean Ig RK isn’t horrible
this tells me nothing
but I would never recommend
rk61 is one of the top boards that people get into the hobby with
its a basic board with bt and 2.4ghz
This is $63.76
In cad
I mean it’s not bad
really ugly tho ||just sayin||
I remember it being 40$ on the base c1
whatt, nah man I love the c1/2
bothe the retro and normal
I mean its fine ig but I really hate the esc key for some reason
oh nvm I can just replace it
all is good
they have a differnt key
||get different keycaps||
one that matches the rest
^
bottom you can see it
^
oh diditn see that lmao
okay yeah I'll probably get the keychrom one
well it depends on shipping costs
if its like $40 shipping nty
but yeah it seem pretty good ty @spark hatch @merry wyvern
Np my mans
Then it's not clickiness ... it's tactility
Well, in fairness if they have like a clickbar switch then the click directly translates to the tactility
cause the only tactility they have would be caused by the clickbar
which also means that the bump is relatively sharp compared to sth like Bobas which have a much nicer rounded bump
or sawtooth bump
Same for a click jacket ... but they are not silent and that's what was asked for
Silent with a nice click
Was what was asked
Also I already knew about that ...
G502 Gaming Mouse is the world’s most popular mouse. G502 X PLUS is reinvented and redesigned with the latest innovations in gaming technology, featuring all-new hybrid optical-mechanical switch technology: LIGHTFORCE. Now, incredible speed and reliability, as well as precise actuation are one. Available in black and white colorways.
It’s a regular click leaf but optical?
Doesn’t that just give you debounce problems?
why cant they choose a different way to generate the tactility like almost all other optoelectric microswitches
I think the razer ones use a click leaf too but the plunger is it’s own thing and not the leaf
Steelseries basically has a click bar beside it
Logitech’s just seem the most 
we're both in wooting server :p
We'll know if its good or not when people start/don't mod(ding) them 
silent clickies exist yk
you would just call them sharp tactiles
man you scared me so bad i doze off for a few days
i dont quite understand which ones they are but the stock keys are outemu blue 3 pin
and the gateron yellow 3 pin works with them too
Which ones ... cause it makes no sense, how can you have a silent switch that is not silent cause it makes click noise ...
You tried them in there ?
it was a joke cause it's called "mute jade"
kailh box mute jades
yep
then it's not outemu hotswap socket the you have there
you can fit regular switches in outemu sockets if you file down the pins
...or if you push really hard without popping them out
the pin will bend
I tried it
and you really have to want those switches to file the pins down
better get other switches ... gateron yellow are really not that good compared to other switches availables, they are just real cheap
I have them and tried ... and nope it didn't work
any good full sized keyboard for around 100$ ?
keychron c2
or an akko board
any good mechanical keyboards for 300 BRL or under?
keychron or akko
So I'm looking at getting a Redragon k552, just want an affordable keyboard that size I can swap keycaps on. Anyone able to suggest a good source for keycap sets? I just want cyan and purple keys
Looked at those, don't have the colors I want
on the lower end of quility but if you cant find anything wasd keycaps are fully custom
keychron is like 2x my budget, and akko is 500
gk61
note that its a 60% and its super cheap so QC is pretty much nonexistent, its all plastic as well
apparently it's only available through import websites
dont even know what manu/brand this is
Akko
Any tips for faster typing ?
oh lucky
I have jelly pinks
I did have vintage whites but I sold that keeb
thoughts on the outemu crystal clear switches?
am thinking about swapping them out with some ink blacks
learn homerow and practice
Never tried either, but ink blacks are usually really liked
well I was looking at switches and then I saw the next one up (according to the article) and they were the oil kings and I dont know much just yet but that blacked out switch just looks good to me
Never personally tried oil kings but I've heard good things
Supprised to see vintage whites on the list, I thought they were quite popular
what topre domes should i look for if i want ergo-clear-like tactility?
if any exist?
maybe they are planning to release an updated version?
do those have a similar strength bump?
i assume you mean weight
similar to what
ergo clears. weight is not a concern unless it directly correlates with how strong it feels
then whats a strength bump
ergo clears are cherry mx clears swapped with mx brown springs which is 45gs
heres the chart if you want to know the bump
though its hard to tell wihtout actually using it
people also mention theres a chalking feel to it like most cherry switches
leopold is also 45gs
but the bump is much more noticeable
Didn't think of that, yea that could be the case
just trying to be optimistic about it!
what i meant was: are there any domes, aftermarket or not, that have a similarly pronounced tactile bump to ergo clears or ergo clear clones such as ocean blues, mod-ms or zealio v1s
ck550 v2 is it good?
What’s home row sorry ?
Pretty sure its the row with the F and J keys. You should see a little notch on those keys. You keep your index fingers on those two keys and each finger on the keys next to it.
Some cap sets also have more of an indent on the f and j keys with/or the notch
for touch touch typing, google it. theres websites online to help you rpractice
po
in theory cause I am used to the weight and actuation force of an MX brown couldn’t I just swap the springs on my MX reds to regain that force?
Home row is the line of keys that “asdfghjkl” are on right?
Mx brown and mx red have the same weight, same total travel ... they most likely use the same spring if that's what you want to know
well I am unsure how they can feel so completely different to me though
Domes? You can’t get ergo clear tactility out of a dome. Ergo clears are sort of mid-bump, but domes can’t do anything other than a top-bump.
Well red are linear and brown tactile ... of course they will feel different
I'm not talking about the shape.
So you just want a not so tactile dome?
I am well aware that Topres are a wholly different feel from MX Clears, and I don't know how to explain it
leopolds are p shape bumps
so what would swapping the stem and spring yield result wise?
Not much
The red will become brown and brown will become red if the housing are the same
If the housing are not the same then who knows
I see, so basically some red housed brown style hybrid?
im pretty sure cherry uses the same housing with all their switches (excluding clickys)
only the leaf is different
because the brown has a black bottom side for its housing and thee red had a white/cream look to it
different material
black is nylon
Well if the material is not the same it might change the sound
sounds a little more high pitched yet more solid/robust
Nylon housing tend to be lower volume and lower pitch
which is almost what I was going for as I am not an over all fan of the higher pitch
what is the correct terminology? "thock" wasn't it?
I wouldn't waste time by messing with different kind of cherry switches ... I would just go for something better in the beginning
unless they've changed, Cherry shells and contact leafs are the same on all the switches
Thock doesn't mean anything
just the stem and springs that are different
well I am aiming for more of a low pitched style thud if you wanna put it that way
That's the right way to put it indeed ... thock and clack doesn't mean anything
well a solid sounding thud is what I am going for in that case
I don want the sound of a metallic ping but that could very well depend on the material of the chassis
the classic thock/clack dilemma
Metallic ping depend also on the spring
if you're getting ping from springs you're doing it wrong
I have a board that has MX blue and the only switch that makes a ping is the space bar
Outemu blue have really loud spring ping ... louder than the sound of the click jacket
then again that board is from cooler master so I shouldn't have expected anythhing too great from them
Lots of switches have spring ping and some leaf ping ... it's not user related in any way
also I was gonna get some new switches and I was thinking of either ink black or oil kings
Never tried those
I have some outemu crystal clears in my board at the moment and they feel decent
Haven't tried those either
well let me put it this way, with these crystal clears it woulnd't matter if the led was either north or south facing
For me it never matter ... I don't use the LEDs
I like the RGB on the K77 but that outer LED bar it has I just keep off as it is a bit too bright
I really don't care about rgb
Also don't care about north or south facing
Cause I hate cherry profile
I Just don't use led
I have enough keycaps set to have a wide choice of color and profile
ok from what you have heard what would you have to say about the AKKOxTTC demon switches?
$9 AUD per 10 switches
Inferior to other akko switches from what I heard
Akko Sponge are nice
so if I am going for a low pitched thud what am I most likely to choose?
Tecsee carrot
Knc red jacket
Knc green jacket
Tecsee purple panda maybe
There's probably deeper sounding than those but I don't know them
From what I hear, not many akko switches are deep sounding
hmmm
And if there's any then I don't know them
is it strange to like the look of a low profile switch?
cheap enough that it's not a huge deal if you don't like em lol
ok well I am gonna say this now I can touch type on a macbook like profile for height and activation weight but not the butterfly switch I am referencing the 2012 macbook Pro style keyboard
got 45 for $15Aud lol
well australia is pricy and we have TAX on literally everything
I know lol, I am Aussie
never quite realised how good shopping online was before they added the 10% on everything online too
at the time, regular prices for the switches was like $26 for 45
Qld sketchy tax my guy
I gotta find a place that’ll ship express for a pack of 90
Amazon prime?
yes.
but they're built really well, cs switches generally avoid cherry interference, low stem wobble and are rly smooth
oh also nice springs for their cost
gimme a cheap keyboard without the num key in canada. amazon/canada computers works
how cheap
Cheapest I would get is the redragon k552
I was gonna say the same things
jelly blacks are their deepest, but nothing like other deep switches out there
And yet jelly black are not deep
mhm
Is the dk61e a good budget keyboard or are there better keyboards at that price
its from 1993
just bought it because of the keycaps
those are OG dyesubs
they're pretty rare and can be worth around 100€
just gave them a clean and ye
That's a nice one.
I have to check the ones we have at work. I told the owner he could probably sell the keyboards they have from their old server setup.
There's like 7 or 8 M122s like still wrapped in plastic, and then a couple used ones lying around.
They'd need Soarer's but still solid otherwise.
anyone know which pin is what?
i got Akko CS Vintage Whites 
Bajeal K100, or something from motospeed
the white one is the middle of the switch and the soldered pins are the metal ones
@sleek elk the same but yours is white
no as in, the USB pins
sorry for constantly and reasking, ive been researching and changing my opinion over and over, but this should be the final one
is this a good keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Swappable-Wireless-Bluetooth-Mechanical/dp/B083LFTLLT/ref=sr_1_5?crid=A44PF1VYEX3E&keywords=keychron%2Bk6&qid=1662078887&s=electronics&sprefix=keychron%2Bk6%2Celectronics%2C117&sr=1-5&th=1
ooo nice
well we can both agree on that
gonna build a pc soon and want a new keyboard that supports openrgb because im using a ducky 1 2 mini rn and it sucks
oh yes
Phew im glad I never got a Ducky then.
yeah, actually really bad keyboards
Aluminum makes a louder ping noise when In an un modded keeb
its decent
the 1861st is compatible with qmk but not any model you can buy rn
any openrgb compatible hotswap keyboards youd reccomend other than that one
but if there is foam in between the pcb and the plate then it should be fine
bluteooth is not neccessary as i play games a lot so ill choose latency over looks
Like super overrated
and over used
I think I have one. its alr. I found the sound is kinda inconstant if you care about that. but thats ever tray mount
i mean with some custom keycaps & tape mod they arent that bad
still pretty awful tho
Meh
Glad I dodged a bullet then. I was gonna het one for the longest, but actually kinda forgot they existed.
Same here lmfao
Guess I can go back to pretending they dont exist. 😂
keychron q1, v1 and any akko board are always my recommendations\
that sounds like a great idea!
idk if akko works with openrgb
Same here
I actually don’t know I’ve never tried
dont think it does
not sure, I just like there boards
I have an Akko board so maybe I’ll try it
3061 rgb works
oh well mine won’t work then
🖕 respectfully ❤️
I have the 3068b
sadly no hotswap
Ahah I deserved that lmao
they have support for a lot of redragon using sonixqmk
Oh cool
basically all of them
same
im not gonna buy foam so should i go plastic?
If your not gonna buy foam then yes
definitely go plastic
up to you, ali is just stronger. and can be pingy if not dealt with right
wait i think amazon only has the rgb version in aluminum 💀
because like it said it makes a louder ping noice if there is no dampener
ig ill use polyfill or smth
be the q1 has a pretty good ali case
q series is too expensive
Idk if you can use poly fill for in between the pcb and the plate
then I'd opt for plastic
^
you can
would just reccomend pairing with tape mod
idk it just seems like it would be to difficult lmao
to separate it abit
yeah I think that’s a good idea
keychron kinda pricey tho
OH wait, I didnt read that right, yea nah I wouldnt put polly fill in between plate
mb
Ah all good lol
v1 looks super nice
You can polyfill the case but the in between
It does
It sounds good stock too
But that takes the fun out of it
If your getting into the hobby i would recommend getting something that you have to mod
Okay
Well I don’t think your decision should be made by Whether or not the keyboard supports openrgb
Np
keychron just had too much unneccesary garbag
I still think it takes the fun out of it
You don’t really need to mod that keyboard
I mean besides the switches
yea ik, I thought thats what you were talking about
ill tape it
yeah
maybe lube
Yeah you can do that
Id re-lube the stabs though
Bec they aren’t the best
Like lube clip and bandaid mod
Yeah but you said you have other switches
keychron just over lubes
sad that theres no carbon black version for it on amazon
Ik
i can just spray paint the translucent one if i decide i dont like
Uh sure
but thanks u guys
Np
i can now do my setup for about 2400 bucks
which is perfect
xD

use signal RGB
ew
all of signals effects are pretty ugly and plus openrgb supports more stuff and is free
the free effects are bad
why would I use signal over openrgb anyways
openrgb has same features and more
with wider compatibility
Signal has better UI, but tbh i don't have anything that has software RGB support
I actually prefer openrgbs ui
@merry wyvern yo can u help me find keycaps for the v1?
whta kind you looking for?
backlit, looks similar to the ones keychron ships
this style
but for the v1
if not that color scheme than something similar
and preferably less than 30 dollars
you want key caps the same as those?
similar
but less than 30 bucks
and preferably backlit but at this point idrc
ive been searching for an hour
thats the best I think I can do
hmm, ig ill keep looking
backlight isnt super common in a variety of styles and 30$ is pretty low for keycaps
I cant verify the quility of the caps but those are pretty close
oh, nvm. those are only for 60% boards
i can do 40-50, but it isnt optimal
https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Doubleshot-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0B6PB74G5?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Doubleshot-Mechanical-Keyboard-Matrix01/dp/B0B5GKG924/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1192DQXY6N39A&keywords=75%25%2Bkeyboard%2Bkeycaps&qid=1662085444&sprefix=75%25%2Bkeyboard%2B%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-3&th=1
which would look better with rgb backlight
or the black variants of either
Im the wrong person to ask sorry
ah ok
either is would look ok
https://www.amazon.com/Keycaps-Doubleshot-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B0B49MJ8QG?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1
this would also look really nice
if theres anyone reading the chat that has an opinion on which of the three would look best on rgb id appreciate
on the keychron v1 with translucent plastic
So I may have butchered together a few “experimental” switches
Outemu crystal clears with MX blue spring
MX red with MX brown spring
And lastly cherry MX brown/red hybrid
why lmao
I like the spring from the MX blue so the switch doesn't feel so light weight
because if it feels like I am gonna accidentally double press a key due to it feeling too "light weight" then I am more likely to miss a press by trying to avoid id
(note: this is all personal preference)
plus I wanted to because I had an MX blue that had a snapped stem anyway
Just get heavy tactile then
heavy tactile with a nylon body sounds good to me
you aint experimented yet until youve put a mx brown in a gat ink yellow housing
i call it the taco bell special
because it just look like shit in piss
don't give me ideas
jesus
i ordered keychron k12 but they kept sending me the wrong model so then i just decided to go with an akko keyboard instead
and these switches are like insanely smooth wtf
akko switches are super nice
yea, its insane for the price point
One day I want to get milky yellow gaterons
I got my board and caps
All I need is the switchss
But I don't know where to start since I'm new
I want a light weight but not so light weight it constantly bottoms out
Good sounding
Tactile and is clear or has a hole for a backlight to shine through
all switches have through holes for rgb
but im not sure what you mean by for the backlight to shine through
but heres the whole sheet of switches
recommend you read the actual review of the switch
You'll bottom out anyway
actuation virgins vs bottom out chads
what actually is this lol
these akko switches make my gateron yellows feel like shit
indeed they do


