#peripherals

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finite mica
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is that good

chrome raft
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i mean

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there are better ones

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for cheap

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keychron / akko for example

finite mica
chrome raft
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any tips for perfectly geting the membrane right so all the keys work normaly

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nvm jsut got it after 3 trys

chrome raft
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they all basically do the same thing

merry wyvern
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And the ⬆️ arrow key

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I understand the spacebar, but why the other ones

chrome raft
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more ergonomic, i use left alt a lot

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right fn is for ease of knowing what to press since I have layers that make use of fn

merry wyvern
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Ah okay

chrome raft
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and up arrow inverted makes it easier to press

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just slide

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not lift

merry wyvern
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ah okay

unkempt dome
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don't have to do it with flat keycap profile ...

chrome raft
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and i don't like flat keycap profiles

unkempt dome
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damn you're not lucky then

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I really prefer flat to any other profile

fiery bane
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I'm fine with any profile as long as it's not oem or SA

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XDA caps are cheap and if you can type on flat profile it's actually quite nice

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Are you ok with buying clones?

wanton geyser
fiery bane
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20-40 in what currency then

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and is longer shipping time (ie. aliexpress) ok?

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ALSO

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need to know a few things

fiery bane
# wanton geyser ye

Does your board have north of south facing LEDs and what switches are in it

wanton geyser
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north*

wanton geyser
fiery bane
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and do you know the switch?

wanton geyser
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yes

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Gateron oil kings

fiery bane
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Oh

wanton geyser
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50€ im ok with that aswell

fiery bane
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Oil kings still have a tiny bit of interference with cherry caps

wanton geyser
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why??

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what would be good then

fiery bane
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Do you have a preferred keycap profile?

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Most switches with north facing LEDs actually have lots of interference

wanton geyser
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What would you recommend if i may ask

fiery bane
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Do you prefer flat or sculpted (curved) profiles?

wanton geyser
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sculpted i think… im not to sure

fiery bane
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take a look at this

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XDA and DSA are called flat because they have no curvature

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sculped means more sculpted to your hand so it's curved

wanton geyser
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Everything from KAT and above im okay with

fiery bane
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ok

fiery bane
wanton geyser
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yeah i seen them but the ones i like are 60

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60+

fiery bane
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Can you find em used anywhere?

wanton geyser
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i wouldnt know

fiery bane
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ok for the record

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XDA is the cheapest keycap profile

wanton geyser
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yrs

fiery bane
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the moulds are the same for all the caps basically, so they end up having the best designs for the price

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since you're ok with clones, and amazon preferred because of shipping times

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I've seen this one around and it's decent

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just know it's a complete clone

wanton geyser
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ohh yes

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iJ also found that one

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i*

fiery bane
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yea that's based on the Groupbuy Blue Moon

wanton geyser
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and maybe would you know any switch that sounds similar to the gateron oil kings thats cheaper/same prices

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linear

fiery bane
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ohh you haven't gotten oil kings

wanton geyser
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switch

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not yet

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im buying them straight after my vacation

fiery bane
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what kind of sound are you after

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are you gonna lube the switches on your own?

wanton geyser
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i wouldnt know how to describe

wanton geyser
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i only lubed one keyboard so i dont have much experience

unkempt dome
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cherry profile keycaps from akko will fit with akko switches

wanton geyser
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ill take a look at them, thank you so much

fiery bane
unkempt dome
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I don't care about sound so I don't know

fiery bane
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well

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hm

wanton geyser
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But why is there a problem if i get cherry profile keycaps with gateron oil kings?

unkempt dome
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the third row keycap might collide with the switch housing before bottoming

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to solve it you just have to put a layer of paper in the stem receptacle on the switch

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about 0.003" is all that is neded to solve the issue

wanton geyser
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ohh

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thats nothing

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i dont work with inches but i think i grt it

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get*

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but i dont know if my keyboard is north or south facing

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it doesnt matter, gateron oil kings dont have the problem

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black inks do

unkempt dome
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0.003" is 0,076 mm

wanton geyser
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yes

unkempt dome
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oil king are long pole ?

wanton geyser
unkempt dome
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ok

mighty veldt
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Yes it is out of stock everywhere and i dont know when it it is coming back

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If anyone knows any other kb thats around $100 and 75% then lmk

unkempt dome
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maybe one of the mod line

mighty veldt
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What is that?

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Can you send a link or something

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Im specifically trying to get the black and sliver color with silver lubed switches

unkempt dome
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but it's more expensive than your budget

mighty veldt
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It is wayy too much and i will have to mod it and do everything which idk how to do that well

unkempt dome
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why would you have to mod it

mighty veldt
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OH IM stupid

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I just have to put the switches and keycaps

unkempt dome
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yes

mighty veldt
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But i hav to buy that separately

unkempt dome
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well yes ...

mighty veldt
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Yea thats a problem for me

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But ill look into it thx

unkempt dome
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not much keyboard will come with silver lubed switches

mighty veldt
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Do u know any other kb then?

mighty veldt
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I dont know much about kb if u couldnt tell lol

unkempt dome
chilly perch
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When the heck is akko selling black shine thrus

fiery bane
unkempt dome
chilly perch
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Oh wait

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They r available?

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Lol I haven't been keeping track

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Do you think the shine capability will be better than my Amazon shine thrus

mighty veldt
sly orbit
unkempt dome
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Dead

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Replace the stabilizer

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Or try to glue it maybe

cerulean lava
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oh that stabilizer is ko'd for sure

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how does that even happen

sly orbit
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can someone explain how to fix this: when im playing a game, and for example, i move with W forward, i release the key, but it still keeps going, and then i have to replug my keyboard (its not physical sticky keys) i use a hyperx alloy fps pro, BUT i play on a macbook pro

zinc egret
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My first every custom built keyboard

sly orbit
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what spacebar stabilizers do i need for a hyperx alloy fps pro

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?

fiery bane
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if the bottom snapped then uh

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gg

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get some everglide pandas

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6.25x U stabilizer is what you need

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youll also need to know how to solder

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cause hyperx board is not hotswap

fleet plume
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Logitech G512 Lightsync Gx Brown Tactile
or
Keychron K8 Wireless Rgb Gater Hot Swap Brown
for the same price

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100 bucks

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70% programming 30% gaming

prime idol
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I have G512 carbon blue and it has been great. No keys have died yet (which I cannot say about my previous mechanical keyboard). The paint has come off the left control key though and some of the keys are starting to look a little scuffed. I am also starting to think I should have tried Brown keys. The keyboard feels absolutely fabulous, but not the fastest for typing. I do not know the other keyboard.

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It is fairly loud too, but I do not really care. I just try to mute myself when I type.

fleet plume
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nice

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i dont like blues, ill get the brown

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tho i never had a mechanical keyboard

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only laptops

prime idol
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Yeah I might try brown one day too.

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I used to be a very fast typer, but this keyboard slows me down somewhat

fleet plume
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How come?

prime idol
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I guess because they are blue? Need to hit them a bit harder feels like

fleet plume
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I never thought of that, that a keyboard could slow me down

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Have you ever tried brown or red?

prime idol
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They resist being pressed down a bit, almost like typing on an old fashioned type writer

fleet plume
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Ive never touched a mechanical one in my life

prime idol
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I think brown are super smooth and need very light touch only, blue is more for gaming I guess? but I am not entirely sure

fleet plume
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Btw, is your logitech keyboard wireless?

prime idol
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Quote: So, Red switches are the lightest and easiest to press, followed by Brown and then Blue. Blue switches require a little more distance before actuation, but all bottom out at 4mm. MX Reds are linear and silent, meaning there's no tactile or audible click.

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Sounds like Red are even lighter. So Brown may be a good middle of the road

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No this is cabled, and I did not need wireless. My keyboard (Carbon) comes with braided cable, it's super high quality. I think that is the difference between this keyboard and the one you are looking at. Not sure why I would need braided cable though lol, I do not see the cable has much wear and tear

elder stone
fleet plume
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but brown or tactile or whatever they're called

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sound like they're good for me

prime idol
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By the way, one downside to this keyboard, I do not think you can replace the switches. So if you change your mind and regret your choice of switches (brown, blue) you cannot swap them out.

elder stone
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yeah, Akko's tactile switches are nicer than Gateron/Kailh brown honestly

prime idol
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Replaceable switches is a huge pro if you can find it, even if one breaks can just buy a new one

elder stone
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something like Akko 5075B, ACR87 or ACR pro 75 would be awesome for the money

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they also sell them as barebone kits, so you can add your own switches and keycaps

fleet plume
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lol

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damn

elder stone
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are you in the US or?

fleet plume
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nope

elder stone
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so... you're in?

fleet plume
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Eastern europe, not that it matters i guess

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non-US

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Market super limited

elder stone
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should be able to get it via Epomaker

fleet plume
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try searching here

elder stone
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Epomaker also sells on Amazon in multiple European countries

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depending on where in eastern Europe you are, could just import it

fleet plume
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Nah the site i linked is definitely the only option for me

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its like an ebay style site

elder stone
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ah, Serbia

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explains it

fleet plume
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Think ill go with the G512

elder stone
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I would much rather go with K8 out of the two

fleet plume
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Really?

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It's not the pro version

elder stone
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way better build quality on them regardless

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just get it via a retailer, not Keychron directly

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their own CS is a pain

fleet plume
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Nah the only way for me to get it affordably is on the black market

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someone selling Keychron K8 Wireless Rgb Gater Hot Swap Brown Uk English Bla for 120eur

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and something is telling me its the best deal ill find

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lmao

elder stone
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oh, I know the pain that is the Serbian market

fleet plume
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you do

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your name sounds slavic

elder stone
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I'm Dutch, but have a good friend in Serbia

fleet plume
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Yeah life is hard without amazon

elder stone
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well, amazon import is actually pretty solid

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but generally expensive for Serbia

fleet plume
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Was trying to buy a 1500 dollar PC on amazon

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it was like 2300 with shipping

elder stone
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yeah, one nice thing is that they give you back the difference, and will pay for more if needed

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so it's a maximum, not an estimation

prime idol
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So nord are you getting your keyboards second-hand? or are they new? I would be weary of broken or unresponsive keys

fleet plume
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oh really

elder stone
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yeah, that's the nice thing about Amazon specifically

fleet plume
prime idol
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I have had refunds from Amazon too on shipping, nothing so extravagant though

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Just the other day I got a notice saying I got such and such back for import fees on such and such items

fleet plume
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I bought an iphone 11 for around 500eur a few years back from one of those shops, brand new

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i asked for the fiscal bill

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or if i could pay with a card

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and they we're like

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Oh, then it would be around 700eur

elder stone
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oh btw, there's a few people selling an Akko 3087

fleet plume
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tax evasion ababy

elder stone
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not as nice as the ACR or 5075, but still a very nice board

fleet plume
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Eh, it's a different city, i think the K8 is what ill go with

elder stone
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yeah, K8 is fine

fleet plume
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if you think its good compared to the Logitech

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wireless is a big bonus for me

elder stone
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outside of Keychron's CS being a bit weird, they're good boards

fleet plume
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I just dont even know if its charging or replacable batteries or whatev

elder stone
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it's rechargeable

fleet plume
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nice

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This is great

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Now im definitely going for it

elder stone
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all good

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and depending on the exact version, it could be hotswap

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differs between versions of it

unkempt dome
unkempt dome
chrome raft
unkempt dome
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If you say so ... I would find it annoying

unkempt dome
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Halloween is coming

urban panther
unkempt dome
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Yes

urban panther
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errr

urban panther
unkempt dome
fiery bane
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anywhere I can still buy keyboard interference washer things?

urban panther
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O rings?

onyx summit
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Oh ya what's a set of cheap pbt keycaps

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Very cheap

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I kinda like the keychron look

cold turtle
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So what keyboard do you guys recommend for corsair?

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I like their icue program and the current diy style of mechanical keyboard seem a bit too much for me

onyx summit
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None

cold turtle
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And i like having a numpad

onyx summit
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Keychron c2 better then corsair keyboards

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Or ducky

cold turtle
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They got nice wireless options?

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Aw seems like no media controls

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Ig best one for full sized with media controls. Mechanical and wireless.

rocky crescent
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are gat reds just gat yellows but less smooth?

ionic briar
rocky crescent
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ah ok

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im so confused rn

ionic briar
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they use the same tooling, so smoothness should be comparable

rocky crescent
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cause this amazon page is showing me same product

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but diff pricing

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this is sold by the same company harris technology, its aluminium brown rgb and is 109 but the rest are around 129?

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do i take the risk?

crimson rock
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i have mixed feelings about this thing

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i wanna throw it away but at the same time i don't

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but this will have to go with it

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I ordered 2,,bundles...

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now I have 2

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brah I should've ordered some razer shit

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They keys sound like ass

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and the enter key has a fucking screech

vagrant blade
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kt reds vs cherry reds

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(@ me if you know of any difference)

white light
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does anyone here know if the ducky one 3 full size is a good keyboard or if there are better ones to go for(i need full size, mx brown switches and rgb(and white))

peak locust
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Anyone knows a very good keyboard in between €100-300

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And mouse up to around €100

white light
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best mouse in my opinion is logitech g502 hero, both lightspeed and wired are good.

peak locust
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Thx

white light
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keyboard im looking for advise as well zs

unkempt dome
unkempt dome
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Would go for that maybe

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Or just an akko board

white light
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what would you do? i currently have a steelseries apex 5 with steelseries blue switches. they feel good but are just to loud. i found that cherry brown are like the blue but without as much noise. is this true and what other switches are nice?

unkempt dome
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Cherry are not that good compared to other brands and that's it

nova scarab
unkempt dome
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Why ... they are better 95% of the time

nova scarab
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Better how? There's certainly more variety but I've seen them fail far sooner than Cherry...especially early on

unkempt dome
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There's just outemu base line that is about the same as cherry

unkempt dome
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Better feeling, more diversity, better tolerance, less wobble, better sound

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And ... smoother

nova scarab
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They have gotten better over the years, but that's mainly due to newer and younger mech buyers that didn't see all the fails and bad batches from the clones

unkempt dome
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Never had a switch fail on me

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Cherry is outdated and overpriced compared to the others and that's about it ... it's like someone getting a corsair/razer/logitech board ... you pay premium for the name and the brand reputation while getting a just ordinary product

nova scarab
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Admittedly, it's more Gateron/Kailh/Razer that had more prevalent issues. Outemu has been a bit different.

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I wouldn't agree with that analogy. While they are "overpriced," they are a proven and quality brand. I would never compare Cherry to any gaming brand, lol.

unkempt dome
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Well I would ... corsair still use cherry switches and there's a lot of people that went through here that had their board fail withing 2 years

white light
nova scarab
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Cherry is a different company altogether, because they're mainly industrial/commercial. They were reluctant to even do things related to gaming. They had set production schedules, and set thresholds and it was hard to get switches back in the day. That and price, are why clones became a thing in the first place.

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But along with that, clones were/are still not at the same level in general.

nova scarab
unkempt dome
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Come became a thing cause pattent expired

nova scarab
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There are some keyboards that hit Amazon, and while 80% are probably fine, there's batches of reviews in there where the switches are the limiting factor and brands like Corsair and such don't want to deal with that. Eventually that will change.

nova scarab
# white light what brands would you reccomand?

If you don't choose a keyboard with Cherry switches, you could go with Outemu switches. And realistically, Kailh and Gateron will probably be fine nowadays generally.

If you opt for a hot-swap keyboard, and have some extra switches, you'll mitigate any switch that might fail anyways.

unkempt dome
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Gateron have nice switches if you don't get the baseline red/brown/blue

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I would go akko switches or tecsee if you want linear ... bit more expensive than the gateron milky yellow but still worth it

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For tactile well akko lavender purple or jelly purple

nova scarab
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Let me ask you, dr0ybox, as you seem knowledgeable....do you know any tactile switches over 80cN that aren't impossible to find?

unkempt dome
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I don't

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80cn tactile force or bottom out ?

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maybe the clikiez when turned into tactile

nova scarab
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Like, heavier than Green/Grey

unkempt dome
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but those are really expensive

nova scarab
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I have Greys right now, but want even heavier.

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Also have a Green board, but rarely use it now.

unkempt dome
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those cherry grey are quite niche

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that's probably why nobody made some similar

nova scarab
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Ya, I was lucky to find them. People don't want heavy so it's been tough. A couple brands made some but they're so rare.

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I'll probably have to change out springs as a last resort.

unkempt dome
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yeah the clickies when you put them in tactile mode have a tactile point over 100g

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the spring is 75g tho ...

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in clicky mode they are supposed to be better than the kailh box navy

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some say just to swap the spring of the grey for something heavier

nova scarab
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Those might be an option, but ya, might end up with another spring at some point.

Not in a rush, I have a keycap set I'm unlikely to change and aluminum case for my board, and Greys are fine.

Just thinking about a potential next option.

unkempt dome
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yeah there's always something new to try ... now I want to try grey

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my guess would be that they will be too heavy for my liking but I won't know if I never try them

nova scarab
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I went from Blue -> Green -> Clears -> Greys.....if Greys never became an option on the keyboard I got, I don't know what I'd be using right now.

I tried other stuff before then, but always stuck with Clears until the Greys. Then I've been much more content with them than anything else.

unkempt dome
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I tried to many switches to list them all ... some I probably forgot that i even have them

lilac radish
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can anyone tell me, is there any switch taht feels like a buckling spring thats a bit sharper and uses cherry stem

merry wyvern
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red bull gives you winnnngs

vital orchid
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(not sponsored)

foggy socket
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i think that might be it im not too sure

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see for yourself

lilac radish
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i have heard something of zeal, ive also heard of box jades and cealious v2

unkempt dome
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clickiez are more like alps switches than buckling springs

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kailh box clicky line are just different kind of clicky that use click bar instead of click jacket ... still don't feel like buckling springs imo

stable edge
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Trying to set up keyboard and mouse for xbox. Is it possible to use a laptop as a adapter?

unkempt dome
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doesn't xbox have native support for keyboard and mouse ?

stable edge
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Not on all games….

unkempt dome
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wow that suck

merry wyvern
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you can’t just use the laptop as an adaptor for you Xbox

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You can use the laptop to play games thought

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Then you will be able to use keyboard and mouse

wispy oxide
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Anyone have any recommendations on how to display extra key caps sets they have?

fiery bane
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like get a K552 and just remove the cable

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Unless you need full size

wispy oxide
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That's what i was leaning towards but was curious if anyone had other setups. Thanks!

rocky crescent
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the keychron keycaps feel so.....

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weird idk

ionic briar
rocky crescent
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Nah

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Their normal ones

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On the K12

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Like it’s smooth and dry

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Dk how to describe it

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But if u hit ur nail on it when u type

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Like u cringe a little

ionic briar
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oh yea, those are laser ablated
the caps is rather smooth and the legend might feel like a dip to your fingers

chrome raft
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Hi, all,
I want to buy a new keyboard and wondered if the new optomechanical switches are worth over extra features. I'd appreciate recommendations for keyboards/comparisons/thoughts:
Here are my must features:
• Detachable numpad
• Scroll wheels (for audio, optionally for other things, or more wheels for other things)
• Macro-programmable - bonus point for dedicated macro keys
• Full RGB control
• Low-actuation, short-travel distance switches, non-tactile and generally quiet - so something like RX Reds Cheery ones such as the Reds, Silents and Speed
• Good build quality
• Not tall
• Full keyboard

Preferences:
• Wireless
• Comes with a wrist rest/has an accompanying wrist rest

I'm debating with myself whether to buy an optomechanical keyboard, such as the ROG Claymore II (I have the v1 and like it a lot), versus the Everest Max, which has some extra nice features the Claymore II doesn't have such as the LED-screened macro keys and the screen, but its detachable numpad connects via cable rather than locks into they keyboard and is connected physically directly.

Any thoughts?

amber tartan
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no one ever says optomechanical, people just call them optical

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also most gaming keyboards have meh quality control

random sleet
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can anyone explain why lube is used on switches and what effect it has, thanks

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just got myself a keychron k2 k3 with gateron browns, my first mechanical keyboard and it feels great

chilly perch
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keychron epicc

amber tartan
random sleet
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oh wait... if the keyboard isn't hot swappable then it sounds like a pain

amber tartan
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its not hard to learn

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but its a lot more time consuming

amber tartan
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ok

cunning anvil
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they were dumb questions and i got them answered

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i dont want people searching for the same question and getting dead ended

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waste of their time lol

random sleet
random sleet
ionic briar
random sleet
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thanks 🙂

amber tartan
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i rec the krytox 205g0

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but watch some vids if you wanna get in depth

merry wyvern
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That is by far the best lube for switches

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And if you want to, lube your stabs with it too

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But I would recommend dielectric grease for stabs

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If you can get it

amber tartan
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stabilizers require thicker appliances

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but 205g is fine

merry wyvern
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But krytox 205g0 is okay if you don’t want to buy the grease

merry wyvern
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One of my friends tried something where he lubed the wire with grease and then the housing and stem with krytox

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and it turned out pretty nice ngl

urban panther
cobalt eagle
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which switches are nice to click and pretty quiet

unkempt dome
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That doesn't make sense ... click and quiet are the opposite

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If you meant tactility then reds are not the ones

Akko lavender purple, boba u4, tecsee purple panda etc.

cobalt eagle
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i want switches quiet enough to not be heard from outside of my room so i can play till 4 am but i also want the clickyness

spark hatch
cobalt eagle
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feel

prisma mural
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uh I guess I'll just use this channel because I'm unsure what other one to use and keyboards seem pretty similar to mice...
whats a decent wireless mouse under $50 CAD (about $35 USD)

merry wyvern
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you can get very nice wired mice for under that

prisma mural
merry wyvern
spark hatch
prisma mural
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whats a decent cheap-ish wireless mouse then?

merry wyvern
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There is also the Corsair harpoon wireless which is $49

prisma mural
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hm ok

merry wyvern
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It’s okay

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Oh wait it’s on sale

prisma mural
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where?

merry wyvern
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it’s $69 regular

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nice

merry wyvern
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@prisma mural

spark hatch
prisma mural
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hmm

merry wyvern
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It’s not the best mouse

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But it will do you well

prisma mural
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alr

spark hatch
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why not?

merry wyvern
prisma mural
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rn I'm using the official rpi mouse

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so anything will be an upgrade lol

merry wyvern
#

Oh?

prisma mural
#

yeah

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I used to use an rpi 4 as a desktop pc

#

turns out is sucks so I build one, but still am using the rpi official mouse and keyboard

merry wyvern
#

Dang

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The rpi mouse is not nice lol

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The g305 isn’t under $50 btw

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@prisma mural

prisma mural
#

really?

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oh yeah

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its like $60 tho

#

so its not terribly expenive

merry wyvern
#

no it’s not

prisma mural
#

no?

#
spark hatch
#

g305 is pretty cheap

merry wyvern
#

Yes it’s $60

prisma mural
#

ahh

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ok yeah

#

might as well just get that like whats $10 if I'm going to use is for years

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

don’t get it

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Get the k552 if anything

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

Okay but get the k552

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Unless you need the num pad

prisma mural
spark hatch
#

id reccomend saving for it over reddragon

merry wyvern
#

but the k552 is a tenkeyless and it’s smaller so you save mouse space

merry wyvern
#

Keychron boards are very nice

prisma mural
#

okay

merry wyvern
#

then you can mod it too

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Custom keebs are the best

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I prefer thocc

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And poppy

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not clack tho

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

Yes

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thocc

prisma mural
#

hm keychron isn't cheap

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oh ic

merry wyvern
#

There better sound test

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That is thocc

prisma mural
#

ahh

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

it’s nice

prisma mural
#

hm its not cheap tho

merry wyvern
#

Nope

prisma mural
#

$110 or gateon red

merry wyvern
#

Nice keebs are not cheap

prisma mural
#

whereas only $55 for the k552

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

Not that your gonna like lol

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Or should I say that your wallet won’t like

prisma mural
#

oh 😦

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rn my wallet is kinda hurting from the 6600xt and some other stuff

prisma mural
merry wyvern
#

uhh

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lemme see

spark hatch
#

roykludge also has some

merry wyvern
prisma mural
#

usd right

spark hatch
merry wyvern
#

don’t get a royal kludge

merry wyvern
spark hatch
#

rk81 or what ever it is

merry wyvern
#

nooooo

spark hatch
#

I've had no issues

merry wyvern
#

Epomaker has good keebs as well

merry wyvern
prisma mural
#

broo everythings like $100 or so

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okay maybe not rk

spark hatch
# prisma mural broo everythings like $100 or so
Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android

Keychron C1 Mechanical Keyboard. Tenkeyless Layout. Connects via wired type-c cable and users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Gateron Switches. 15+ RGB Backlight

merry wyvern
#

I mean Ig RK isn’t horrible

spark hatch
merry wyvern
#

but I would never recommend

spark hatch
#

rk61 is one of the top boards that people get into the hobby with

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its a basic board with bt and 2.4ghz

merry wyvern
#

In cad

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I mean it’s not bad

prisma mural
#

yeah

#

ig yeah

spark hatch
#

I like my c1 and 2

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I swear they were cheaper tho

prisma mural
#

really ugly tho ||just sayin||

spark hatch
#

I remember it being 40$ on the base c1

spark hatch
#

bothe the retro and normal

prisma mural
#

oh nvm I can just replace it

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all is good

spark hatch
merry wyvern
spark hatch
#

one that matches the rest

merry wyvern
spark hatch
#

bottom you can see it

prisma mural
spark hatch
#

oh diditn see that lmao

prisma mural
#

okay yeah I'll probably get the keychrom one

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well it depends on shipping costs

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if its like $40 shipping nty

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but yeah it seem pretty good ty @spark hatch @merry wyvern

merry wyvern
#

Np my mans

unkempt dome
fiery bane
#

cause the only tactility they have would be caused by the clickbar

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which also means that the bump is relatively sharp compared to sth like Bobas which have a much nicer rounded bump

ionic briar
#

or sawtooth bump

unkempt dome
#

Silent with a nice click

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Was what was asked

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Also I already knew about that ...

sweet thunder
#

It’s a regular click leaf but optical?

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Doesn’t that just give you debounce problems?

ionic briar
#

why cant they choose a different way to generate the tactility like almost all other optoelectric microswitches

sweet thunder
#

I think the razer ones use a click leaf too but the plunger is it’s own thing and not the leaf

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Steelseries basically has a click bar beside it

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Logitech’s just seem the most BirbHuh

swift forge
swift forge
fiery bane
amber tartan
#

you would just call them sharp tactiles

hardy grove
#

man you scared me so bad i doze off for a few days

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i dont quite understand which ones they are but the stock keys are outemu blue 3 pin

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and the gateron yellow 3 pin works with them too

unkempt dome
unkempt dome
fiery bane
#

kailh box mute jades

hardy grove
unkempt dome
#

then it's not outemu hotswap socket the you have there

amber tartan
#

you can fit regular switches in outemu sockets if you file down the pins

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...or if you push really hard without popping them out

unkempt dome
#

the pin will bend

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I tried it

#

and you really have to want those switches to file the pins down

#

better get other switches ... gateron yellow are really not that good compared to other switches availables, they are just real cheap

amber tartan
#

nah the full black nylon gat yellows are pretty slept on

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ks3s

unkempt dome
#

I have them and tried ... and nope it didn't work

empty minnow
#

any good full sized keyboard for around 100$ ?

spark hatch
#

or an akko board

blissful dragon
#

any good mechanical keyboards for 300 BRL or under?

spark hatch
thin narwhal
#

So I'm looking at getting a Redragon k552, just want an affordable keyboard that size I can swap keycaps on. Anyone able to suggest a good source for keycap sets? I just want cyan and purple keys

unkempt dome
#

Amazon

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Akko

thin narwhal
#

Looked at those, don't have the colors I want

spark hatch
blissful dragon
amber tartan
#

note that its a 60% and its super cheap so QC is pretty much nonexistent, its all plastic as well

blissful dragon
unkempt dome
#

Those switches will be discontinued

#

Get them before it's too late

amber tartan
#

dont even know what manu/brand this is

unkempt dome
#

Akko

languid crane
#

Any tips for faster typing ?

merry wyvern
#

I have jelly pinks

#

I did have vintage whites but I sold that keeb

craggy jacinth
#

thoughts on the outemu crystal clear switches?

#

am thinking about swapping them out with some ink blacks

amber tartan
unkempt dome
craggy jacinth
spark hatch
spark hatch
eternal wraith
#

what topre domes should i look for if i want ergo-clear-like tactility?

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if any exist?

amber tartan
#

leopold

#

ig

urban panther
eternal wraith
amber tartan
#

similar to what

eternal wraith
#

ergo clears. weight is not a concern unless it directly correlates with how strong it feels

amber tartan
#

then whats a strength bump

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ergo clears are cherry mx clears swapped with mx brown springs which is 45gs

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heres the chart if you want to know the bump

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though its hard to tell wihtout actually using it

#

people also mention theres a chalking feel to it like most cherry switches

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leopold is also 45gs

#

but the bump is much more noticeable

spark hatch
urban panther
#

just trying to be optimistic about it!

eternal wraith
dark junco
#

ck550 v2 is it good?

languid crane
chrome raft
#

Pretty sure its the row with the F and J keys. You should see a little notch on those keys. You keep your index fingers on those two keys and each finger on the keys next to it.

merry wyvern
spark hatch
light nexus
#

po

craggy jacinth
#

in theory cause I am used to the weight and actuation force of an MX brown couldn’t I just swap the springs on my MX reds to regain that force?

craggy jacinth
unkempt dome
craggy jacinth
sweet thunder
unkempt dome
eternal wraith
sweet thunder
#

So you just want a not so tactile dome?

eternal wraith
#

I am well aware that Topres are a wholly different feel from MX Clears, and I don't know how to explain it

amber tartan
#

leopolds are p shape bumps

craggy jacinth
unkempt dome
#

Not much

#

The red will become brown and brown will become red if the housing are the same

#

If the housing are not the same then who knows

craggy jacinth
#

I see, so basically some red housed brown style hybrid?

amber tartan
#

im pretty sure cherry uses the same housing with all their switches (excluding clickys)

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only the leaf is different

craggy jacinth
#

because the brown has a black bottom side for its housing and thee red had a white/cream look to it

harsh belfry
#

stem is different on cherry style switches

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housings stay the same

amber tartan
#

black is nylon

craggy jacinth
#

so in theory will stay the same almost

#

minus the stem colour

unkempt dome
#

Well if the material is not the same it might change the sound

craggy jacinth
#

sounds a little more high pitched yet more solid/robust

unkempt dome
#

Nylon housing tend to be lower volume and lower pitch

craggy jacinth
#

which is almost what I was going for as I am not an over all fan of the higher pitch

#

what is the correct terminology? "thock" wasn't it?

unkempt dome
#

I wouldn't waste time by messing with different kind of cherry switches ... I would just go for something better in the beginning

harsh belfry
#

unless they've changed, Cherry shells and contact leafs are the same on all the switches

unkempt dome
#

Thock doesn't mean anything

harsh belfry
#

just the stem and springs that are different

craggy jacinth
#

well I am aiming for more of a low pitched style thud if you wanna put it that way

unkempt dome
#

That's the right way to put it indeed ... thock and clack doesn't mean anything

craggy jacinth
#

well a solid sounding thud is what I am going for in that case

#

I don want the sound of a metallic ping but that could very well depend on the material of the chassis

amber tartan
#

the classic thock/clack dilemma

unkempt dome
#

Metallic ping depend also on the spring

harsh belfry
#

if you're getting ping from springs you're doing it wrong

craggy jacinth
#

I have a board that has MX blue and the only switch that makes a ping is the space bar

unkempt dome
#

Outemu blue have really loud spring ping ... louder than the sound of the click jacket

craggy jacinth
#

then again that board is from cooler master so I shouldn't have expected anythhing too great from them

unkempt dome
#

Lots of switches have spring ping and some leaf ping ... it's not user related in any way

craggy jacinth
#

also I was gonna get some new switches and I was thinking of either ink black or oil kings

unkempt dome
#

Never tried those

craggy jacinth
#

I have some outemu crystal clears in my board at the moment and they feel decent

unkempt dome
#

Haven't tried those either

craggy jacinth
#

well let me put it this way, with these crystal clears it woulnd't matter if the led was either north or south facing

unkempt dome
#

For me it never matter ... I don't use the LEDs

craggy jacinth
#

I like the RGB on the K77 but that outer LED bar it has I just keep off as it is a bit too bright

unkempt dome
#

I really don't care about rgb

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Also don't care about north or south facing

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Cause I hate cherry profile

craggy jacinth
#

so you're a blackout style person?

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in regards to colour scheme of course

unkempt dome
#

I Just don't use led

#

I have enough keycaps set to have a wide choice of color and profile

craggy jacinth
#

ok from what you have heard what would you have to say about the AKKOxTTC demon switches?

unkempt dome
#

Overpriced for what it is

#

Not that nice feeling

craggy jacinth
#

$9 AUD per 10 switches

unkempt dome
#

Inferior to other akko switches from what I heard

harsh belfry
#

Akko Sponge are nice

unkempt dome
#

I don't like them that much

#

Prefer lavender purple and purple jelly

craggy jacinth
#

so if I am going for a low pitched thud what am I most likely to choose?

unkempt dome
#

Tecsee carrot
Knc red jacket
Knc green jacket
Tecsee purple panda maybe

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There's probably deeper sounding than those but I don't know them

craggy jacinth
#

ok anything CS jelly?

#

what about matcha greens?

unkempt dome
#

From what I hear, not many akko switches are deep sounding

craggy jacinth
#

hmmm

unkempt dome
#

And if there's any then I don't know them

craggy jacinth
#

is it strange to like the look of a low profile switch?

harsh belfry
#

cheap enough that it's not a huge deal if you don't like em lol

craggy jacinth
#

ok well I am gonna say this now I can touch type on a macbook like profile for height and activation weight but not the butterfly switch I am referencing the 2012 macbook Pro style keyboard

harsh belfry
craggy jacinth
harsh belfry
#

never quite realised how good shopping online was before they added the 10% on everything online too

harsh belfry
craggy jacinth
#

I gotta find a place that’ll ship express for a pack of 90

harsh belfry
#

Amazon prime?

craggy jacinth
#

Gotta fill this thing up

#

Cause the num pad is all reds and the rest is clears

fiery bane
#

but they're built really well, cs switches generally avoid cherry interference, low stem wobble and are rly smooth

#

oh also nice springs for their cost

steep briar
#

gimme a cheap keyboard without the num key in canada. amazon/canada computers works

amber tartan
#

how cheap

unkempt dome
#

Cheapest I would get is the redragon k552

merry wyvern
spark hatch
unkempt dome
#

And yet jelly black are not deep

spark hatch
#

mhm

autumn raft
vagrant sandal
#

Is the dk61e a good budget keyboard or are there better keyboards at that price

merry wyvern
#

That’s ancient

#

it’s honestly a nice cap set though lmao

autumn raft
#

just bought it because of the keycaps

#

those are OG dyesubs

#

they're pretty rare and can be worth around 100€

#

just gave them a clean and ye

merry wyvern
#

nice

#

they look very nice

nova scarab
# autumn raft its from 1993

That's a nice one.

I have to check the ones we have at work. I told the owner he could probably sell the keyboards they have from their old server setup.

There's like 7 or 8 M122s like still wrapped in plastic, and then a couple used ones lying around.

They'd need Soarer's but still solid otherwise.

sleek elk
#

anyone know which pin is what?

sleek elk
sleek elk
merry wyvern
#

@sleek elk the same but yours is white

sleek elk
merry wyvern
#

Oh shit idk then

#

lmfao

vestal cosmos
#

sorry for constantly and reasking, ive been researching and changing my opinion over and over, but this should be the final one
is this a good keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Swappable-Wireless-Bluetooth-Mechanical/dp/B083LFTLLT/ref=sr_1_5?crid=A44PF1VYEX3E&keywords=keychron%2Bk6&qid=1662078887&s=electronics&sprefix=keychron%2Bk6%2Celectronics%2C117&sr=1-5&th=1

merry wyvern
#

I’d say that’s a solid choice

#

but change the switches

vestal cosmos
#

yeah ofc, i have ice candies

#

gaterons suck xD

merry wyvern
#

ooo nice

merry wyvern
#

No

#

Blues suck

#

I’m general

vestal cosmos
#

well we can both agree on that

#

gonna build a pc soon and want a new keyboard that supports openrgb because im using a ducky 1 2 mini rn and it sucks

merry wyvern
#

oh yes

vestal cosmos
#

does the aluminum frame make a big enough difference?

#

or should i go plastic

chrome raft
#

Phew im glad I never got a Ducky then.

vestal cosmos
merry wyvern
#

Aluminum makes a louder ping noise when In an un modded keeb

vestal cosmos
#

the 1861st is compatible with qmk but not any model you can buy rn

vestal cosmos
merry wyvern
#

but if there is foam in between the pcb and the plate then it should be fine

vestal cosmos
#

bluteooth is not neccessary as i play games a lot so ill choose latency over looks

merry wyvern
#

and over used

spark hatch
# spark hatch its decent

I think I have one. its alr. I found the sound is kinda inconstant if you care about that. but thats ever tray mount

vestal cosmos
#

still pretty awful tho

merry wyvern
#

Meh

chrome raft
#

Glad I dodged a bullet then. I was gonna het one for the longest, but actually kinda forgot they existed.

chrome raft
#

Guess I can go back to pretending they dont exist. 😂

spark hatch
merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

idk if akko works with openrgb

merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

dont think it does

spark hatch
merry wyvern
#

I have an Akko board so maybe I’ll try it

merry wyvern
#

jk

#

I’m just playin

vestal cosmos
#

3061 rgb works

merry wyvern
#

oh well mine won’t work then

spark hatch
merry wyvern
#

I have the 3068b

vestal cosmos
#

sadly no hotswap

merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

they have support for a lot of redragon using sonixqmk

merry wyvern
#

Oh cool

vestal cosmos
#

basically all of them

merry wyvern
#

I don’t have a redragon and never will

#

ever

spark hatch
#

same

vestal cosmos
#

im not gonna buy foam so should i go plastic?

merry wyvern
#

definitely go plastic

spark hatch
vestal cosmos
#

wait i think amazon only has the rgb version in aluminum 💀

merry wyvern
#

because like it said it makes a louder ping noice if there is no dampener

vestal cosmos
#

ig ill use polyfill or smth

spark hatch
#

be the q1 has a pretty good ali case

vestal cosmos
#

q series is too expensive

merry wyvern
spark hatch
merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

i wish there was a good option

#

lmao

spark hatch
#

would just reccomend pairing with tape mod

merry wyvern
spark hatch
#

to separate it abit

merry wyvern
#

yeah I think that’s a good idea

vestal cosmos
#

keychron kinda pricey tho

merry wyvern
#

not all of them

#

the v1 and v2 are nice and properly priced

spark hatch
#

mb

merry wyvern
#

Ah all good lol

vestal cosmos
#

v1 looks super nice

merry wyvern
merry wyvern
#

It sounds good stock too

#

But that takes the fun out of it

#

If your getting into the hobby i would recommend getting something that you have to mod

vestal cosmos
#

v1 doesnt have openrgb

#

oh wait

#

wait

#

uhh

#

yeah it doesnt

merry wyvern
#

Okay

vestal cosmos
#

wait

#

v1 does support via

#

i think i can port qmk

merry wyvern
#

Well I don’t think your decision should be made by Whether or not the keyboard supports openrgb

vestal cosmos
#

you found a good keyboard for me

#

thx

merry wyvern
#

Np

vestal cosmos
#

keychron just had too much unneccesary garbag

merry wyvern
#

I still think it takes the fun out of it

#

You don’t really need to mod that keyboard

#

I mean besides the switches

spark hatch
vestal cosmos
vestal cosmos
#

maybe lube

merry wyvern
#

Id re-lube the stabs though

#

Bec they aren’t the best

vestal cosmos
#

lube the stabs

#

switches are factory lube

#

mb

merry wyvern
#

Like lube clip and bandaid mod

merry wyvern
spark hatch
vestal cosmos
#

sad that theres no carbon black version for it on amazon

merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

factory

merry wyvern
#

Ohh I see

#

I’d still re-lube them

#

If you want to spend the time doing it

vestal cosmos
#

i can just spray paint the translucent one if i decide i dont like

merry wyvern
#

Uh sure

vestal cosmos
#

but thanks u guys

merry wyvern
#

Np

vestal cosmos
#

i can now do my setup for about 2400 bucks

merry wyvern
#

oh alright

#

if you need to

vestal cosmos
#

which is perfect

merry wyvern
#

Ping me

#

I’ll be more than happy to answer as long as I’m not doing something haha

vestal cosmos
#

xD

merry wyvern
vestal cosmos
#

all of signals effects are pretty ugly and plus openrgb supports more stuff and is free

sleek elk
#

tru tru

#

Signal is free tho

vestal cosmos
#

the free effects are bad

#

why would I use signal over openrgb anyways

#

openrgb has same features and more

#

with wider compatibility

sleek elk
#

Signal has better UI, but tbh i don't have anything that has software RGB support

vestal cosmos
#

I actually prefer openrgbs ui

sleek elk
#

haven't used either for like 1 yr

#

i dn't have anything thats RGB Sweat

vestal cosmos
#

@merry wyvern yo can u help me find keycaps for the v1?

spark hatch
#

whta kind you looking for?

vestal cosmos
#

backlit, looks similar to the ones keychron ships

#

this style

#

but for the v1

#

if not that color scheme than something similar

#

and preferably less than 30 dollars

spark hatch
#

you want key caps the same as those?

vestal cosmos
#

similar

#

but less than 30 bucks

#

and preferably backlit but at this point idrc

#

ive been searching for an hour

vestal cosmos
#

hmm, ig ill keep looking

spark hatch
#

backlight isnt super common in a variety of styles and 30$ is pretty low for keycaps

vestal cosmos
#

i can do 40-50, but it isnt optimal

#
#

or the black variants of either

spark hatch
#

Im the wrong person to ask sorry

vestal cosmos
#

ah ok

spark hatch
#

either is would look ok

vestal cosmos
#

if theres anyone reading the chat that has an opinion on which of the three would look best on rgb id appreciate

#

on the keychron v1 with translucent plastic

craggy jacinth
#

So I may have butchered together a few “experimental” switches

Outemu crystal clears with MX blue spring

MX red with MX brown spring
And lastly cherry MX brown/red hybrid

craggy jacinth
#

I like the spring from the MX blue so the switch doesn't feel so light weight

#

because if it feels like I am gonna accidentally double press a key due to it feeling too "light weight" then I am more likely to miss a press by trying to avoid id
(note: this is all personal preference)

#

plus I wanted to because I had an MX blue that had a snapped stem anyway

unkempt dome
#

Just get heavy tactile then

craggy jacinth
#

heavy tactile with a nylon body sounds good to me

amber tartan
#

you aint experimented yet until youve put a mx brown in a gat ink yellow housing

#

i call it the taco bell special

#

because it just look like shit in piss

craggy jacinth
rocky crescent
#

jesus

#

i ordered keychron k12 but they kept sending me the wrong model so then i just decided to go with an akko keyboard instead

#

and these switches are like insanely smooth wtf

spark hatch
#

akko switches are super nice

rocky crescent
#

yea, its insane for the price point

hasty relic
#

One day I want to get milky yellow gaterons

onyx schooner
#

I got my board and caps

#

All I need is the switchss

#

But I don't know where to start since I'm new

#

I want a light weight but not so light weight it constantly bottoms out

#

Good sounding

#

Tactile and is clear or has a hole for a backlight to shine through

amber tartan
#

all switches have through holes for rgb

#

but im not sure what you mean by for the backlight to shine through

#

but heres the whole sheet of switches

#

recommend you read the actual review of the switch

unkempt dome
amber tartan
#

actuation virgins vs bottom out chads

rocky crescent
#

what actually is this lol

#

these akko switches make my gateron yellows feel like shit

unkempt dome
#

indeed they do