peripherals

[sweet thunder]

Yeah I have one

[swift forge]

lol, TKL first, then 100%, then 60%

[swift forge]

No more Amazon stock ;-;

good while they were hotswap

[sweet thunder]

Only 2 switch types available tho

They were struggling to sell the old optical analog boards until it blew up in the fortnite scene

[jaunty arrow]

Does someone know any budget keycaps similar to red samurai's or deep forest keycaps?

Preferably similar to deep forests cuz smt like thag would fit my keyboard much better

If anyone has any suggestions tag me

[sand scarab]

I just modded my keyboard a bit more and holy fuck does it sound good

Gateron Optical Yellow (Switches and strings lubed) + tape mod + a bunch of cotton balls under the pcb

GK61/SK61 from Epomaker

[random sleet]

Wow... that's basically therapeutic! Complete keyboard noob (still have a membrane keyboard) but even to my untrained ear that sounds amazing!

[sand scarab]

Thank you, I am a noob myself this is my first mechanical keyboard. It was a learning curve to test out what sounded best but the end result is very satisfying to type on.

Do you plan on getting involved in the keyboard modding community?

[random sleet]

I don't have the money rn, and there are other things I need first like a good chair

but I do find it interesting so definitely something for the future

[pliant mortar]

Ok so idk if this counts as part of keyboard but is it ok to customize your mouse plate?

I wanna make a custom painted one but I wanna know if it's safe

[sand scarab]

The bottom of the mouse?

[pliant mortar]

No the plating for the top of one for a Bluetooth mouse

[sand scarab]

https://imgur.com/a/wKKEGfr

Check out this dude guide on it

[pliant mortar]

Ty

[languid crane]

logitech mx keys mini, apple keyboard with touch ID or keychron k2?

[swift forge]

Keychron

[languid crane]

Look really good tbf

[latent blaze]

Anyone know of a keycap set that goes with the northern lights deskpad? I preferably dont want shine through legends

[sand scarab]

https://www.amazon.ca/Akko-Double-Shot-Mechanical-Keyboards-Collection/dp/B08Z34XDLW/ref=asc_df_B08Z34XDLW/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=578878455010&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7372026588828578748&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061021&hvtargid=pla-1277039505731&psc=1

[latent blaze]

I will keep those in mind but if there is any that have some more of that like Caribbean green color i like that

[sand scarab]

https://krakenkeyboards.com/products/merry-mint-keycap-set-kraken-keycaps

Pretty cheap too

35$ usd

[latent blaze]

thanks, these look neat, depending on profile and price might mix and match both sets tbh

[unkempt dome]

https://www.amazon.com/YUNZII-Keycaps-Mechanical-Keyboards-Collection/dp/B0919VBQHY/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?crid=16XYB4N8YJ9PK&keywords=eva+keycaps&qid=1659652921&sprefix=eva+key%2Caps%2C370&sr=8-9

[sand scarab]

Damn these look sick for a halloween themed keyboard

They kinda remind me of my shoes I got a while ago

[unkempt dome]

That's the latest set I got

[sand scarab]

Can you show pics

[past vortex]

That’s some neon genesis evangelion vibes.

The strange thing is some times their measurements are less then the shorts. And that’s with the overhead of button, case, screen, and game. But I don’t know how many times they test. Like shorts people test many times and have a range. With the averages time. It would be interesting to see them test both at the same time. I think the shorts people are testing in us now.

[swift forge]

good point

thats because they've just updated their methodology

used to be raw data, perhaps they've gotten rid of some variables such as monitor input lag to calculate it now

like the latency for the Superlight used to be 9.5ms wireless

its now 3.5ms

there are still mice they have which they haven't done the new measurements on yet

like the ASUS ROG Keris

[river ermine]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B09H6KFY97/ref=twister_B086S1CFG9?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 @swift forge

does it have a software?

answer.

now.

[plucky nebula]

Custom build gat yellow id87 light I think

[sand scarab]

Did you lube the space bar

[plucky nebula]

Yes

It sounds better in person

[sand scarab]

It sounds good tbh

I have the same switches

[plucky nebula]

Keep in mind first build

[sand scarab]

Yes that is my first build too

What did you mod on it

[plucky nebula]

I tried to Baind-aid mod it didn’t work the one where you put tape under the stabs and I lubed all the switches + stabs

Do you want to see something

[sand scarab]

😂

[plucky nebula]

Rattle

[sand scarab]

Ah i lubed my switches and the spring too. Applied a tape mod on the back of the pcb and on the top of the keyboard so the keys don't rattle (where you push in the keyswaps. I also added some cotton under the pcb

[plucky nebula]

Nice I won the base for free

YouTube giveaway

[unkempt dome]

It's in the box right now

[sand scarab]

No problem

Is there a way to lube my stabilizers without desoldering

My stabilizers aren't visible like in normal boards

[unkempt dome]

If they aren't visible then probably no

[sand scarab]

Ah that sucks man my space bar makes such a loud noise

Someone with no experience in soldering could do it without breaking something you think?

[unkempt dome]

Yes, just need to get a better soldering iron than one from the dollar store and watch some video ... and use flux for best result

[chrome raft]

bruh what its not even hard

i went from dell office keyboard to planck

i know tons of people that never modded a prebuilt

[unkempt dome]

Well good for you

[hardy grove]

almost nothing can make me like steelseries again after experiencing their customer service for 2 times. The fact that i even needed support 2 times.

cheap indian companies do like doing that stuff

added to the list

gonna look that up

[jaunty arrow]

But like bruh fox racing is a company that makes bike parts and accessories how the hell did they come up with stealing thier logo and putting it on keyboards 🤔🤔😐😐

[chrome raft]

can anyone recommend me a hotswap keyboard for 70-170$ budget

I am particularly interested in a 100%

but I am willing to drop lower for potential performance

[latent blaze]

Its over budget if you get 100% (195) but the keychron Q series is good https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q6-qmk-custom-mechanical-keyboard

if you want to go cheaper the keychron V1 (75%) is pretty good

or if you are set on 100% keychron K10

its worse than the keychron but still good, at around 90$ the rk96 is 96% and pretty solid https://rkgamingstore.com/products/rk96-96-layout-mechanical-gaming-keyboard

[cosmic vine]

Anybody got a good macro pad recommendation? I just need something simple for mic mute, switch audio outputs, and maybe a couple more things

[chrome raft]

thank you

erm does the rk96 have a black variant

and is there any loss to using wireless over wired in keyboards?

[latent blaze]

there is, you have to click the drop down that says white currently

If you are using 2.4 its basically no difference but if you use bluetooth then i wouldn’t recommend playing competitve or fast paced games on bt

Also, brown switch means tactile so there is a little bump when the key actuates, red means linear so its a smooth consistent motion down the whole keypress, and blue means clicky which makes an audible click sound as well as having a strong bump like a tactile

[chrome raft]

what switches do you recommend?

[sand scarab]

It's really personal preference

[chrome raft]

what switches do you personally recommend

[sand scarab]

I like the gateron optical yellows

Budget king

[chrome raft]

I mean between the three options the rk96 has but thanks for the input

red/brown/blue

[sand scarab]

blue = really annoying clicking sound imo

[chrome raft]

i have them now

[sand scarab]

red and brown are pretty good

[chrome raft]

blue is actually cancer

i am using a condenser too

[sand scarab]

I'd go for browns

[chrome raft]

the background clicks are unbearable

yeah i was considering browns too

[sand scarab]

Yeah blues are cancer if you're gaming and someone is sleeping in the same room

CLACK CLACK CLACK CLICK

This is my lubed gateron yellow switches

They are more close to the browns than the red I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong

[chrome raft]

i think so as well

[unkempt dome]

How can the yellow be closer to brown than red ...

[rich storm]

either those are some real bad linears, or some real bad tactiles lol

[unkempt dome]

I know ... but that doesn't tell me how yellow and brown are alike

[chrome raft]

closer

not close

[unkempt dome]

Still ... it's weird thing to say

[cunning anvil]

starting to think i should use miryoku in qwerty mode first before jumping straight into colemak-dh miryoku

i never use my qmk board lately because i always wanna type fast

[swift forge]

uhhh yes

[latent blaze]

They are closer to reds no contest, yellows are linears, reds are linears,

[past vortex]

That’s an interesting point. I haven’t seen any data comparing windows VS raw. Like is it same, slower, or faster.

[swift forge]

By raw I mean clicking the switch with the finger cover on by means of a solenoid, using a mic to pick up the sound of the click, timing when the sound of the click is registered

I think it’s a little more complex than that though

[latent blaze]

well what are you doing with the board? Just gaming or are you also typing a lot or doing work etc

[swift forge]

Most testing is done on Windows

[latent blaze]

Just gaming you cant really go wrong with reds but i would recommend lubing them honestly

i have the tactiles, they arent too strong but not so light you cant feel it

personally i like the browns on the rk board for the price

(I have the rk84

Keychron K10 has the Allu frame with browns in stock tho if you tryna spend the extra like 10-20 bucks

[swift forge]

From what I’ve just read @past vortex RTINGS used to measure how long it took for a signal to be registered by the PC, now they just test for when the mouse itself sends out a signal

Because the former methodology meant you’d have to factor in stuff like monitor input lag

They now use a USB sampling device for their latency measuring

Over a camera

[latent blaze]

if youre going wired get the k10 but i think its only BT so if you tryna go wireless go rk96

IMHO

[chrome raft]

everything really

[chrome raft]

wired is fine thank you

[latent blaze]

Have you tried tactile?

[chrome raft]

I do not know what that is

[latent blaze]

alright

if you’re doing some typing on it i personally think the browns are a pretty good all rounder so I recommend them

[chrome raft]

I do some

but its only casual user sort of writing

discord, browser etc

[swift forge]

Is speed a focus or accuracy?

ie are you a discord mod sending out important announcements or a casual chatter

[latent blaze]

y’know thats a really good question for switch preference i somehow never thought about that

[chrome raft]

honestly I am not sure

[swift forge]

Well are you a discord mod of any sort

[latent blaze]

though tactiles wont significantly lower typing speed

[swift forge]

Or a staff member of a server

[swift forge]

Nah, but linears are pure speed

[chrome raft]

well yeah but like

does it matter that much

[latent blaze]

do you need to write essays or reports for school or work on it?

[chrome raft]

well yes sure

[swift forge]

Depends on your experience with switches

[chrome raft]

but I can press backspace like two times

and undo any mistakes

I don't really care about that

[swift forge]

If you’ve been typing for quite a while I’d opt for linears, middle ground are Tactiles

[chrome raft]

I do gaming as well

[swift forge]

What genre

[chrome raft]

all

I am not a pro player of any sort

[swift forge]

Well that tells me a tactile and hotswap board will do the trick

[chrome raft]

right

[latent blaze]

personally, i feel like if you arent lubing them id go for tactiles at this price range/switch class

[swift forge]

Since a pro player would probably settle for a dedicated gaming board and typing

[chrome raft]

a pro player would use whatever their sponsor gives them

[latent blaze]

yup

[swift forge]

That depends

I know quite a few COD pros prefer custom gear and actually don’t use gaming headsets

Mostly open back stuff

keyboards tend to be customs made by fans too

[swift forge]

Also tournament scene vs practicing at home

[chrome raft]

i think ill try to go for the keychron k10

with either brown or red switches

i may get an energizer or something first though ngl

[swift forge]

Beanz will fill me with beans for this, but Keychron is great for typing but high latency for gaming

[chrome raft]

ill just use it wired

[swift forge]

Although, you can overclock polling rate in QMK or something to improve that

[swift forge]

High either way, but if you’re not pro nor trying to be one it’ll be ok

not like 20+ms

Just over 10ms

[chrome raft]

im using a steelseries keyboard right now

it cant be worse

a hybrid one at that

[unkempt dome]

You need to have really weak finger for that to make a difference tho

[unkempt dome]

No it doesn't

[unkempt dome]

Doesn't matter what you do with the keyboard ... switches are preference and that's it

[chrome raft]

i disagree on that part

gaming on buckling springs

[unkempt dome]

I gamed on buckling springs for years

Never had any problem with that

Also we're talking about mx anyway here

Cause it was the topic ... red vs brown it doesn't matter at all

[chrome raft]

oh I wasn't debating that

I just wanted to hear what switches people liked

[unkempt dome]

Buckling springs

[chrome raft]

thanks

[unkempt dome]

Lots of people here really like topre

[chrome raft]

are there hotswap buckling spring switches

[unkempt dome]

Never tried topre tho ... I wish I had money for that

[chrome raft]

is that even possible

[unkempt dome]

No it's not ... the switch is part of the keyboard structure

Lately I really like the red jacket ...
And before that akko lavender purple

[unkempt dome]

My project for today

Redragon k552
Akko sponge
Neoprene case filling
Tape mod

[still pond]

whats a good white keyboard

[untold totem]

Can someone help me with my keyboard I cant use certain keys for some reason ita not my key bord its something to do with my PC and I dont really know what to do my keyboard is a brand new key bord from razer

[swift forge]

what keys are you trying to use, and what operating system are you on

if its scroll lock, pause, insert, delete on the homepad - those aren't designed to work with macOS

print screen doesn't work on Apple computers as well

[past vortex]

look at this glorius testing https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RK4y1s7zk It's so over engienred. the whole bed raises and lowers, and they move the hole keyboard to test keys.

[spark hatch]

looks good

[pliant mortar]

im gonna show my keyboard and how it sounds let me know your opnion

[past vortex]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12C4y1H7fH?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
their mouse tester in inaction 👀

[past vortex]

do you have a link to their new testing?

[swift forge]

I can link you the methodologies page; with regards to knowing their testing system from before, it's only oral information now since that article is long gone

[spark hatch]

stereotypical membrane

[pliant mortar]

what?

[spark hatch]

thats a membrane keyboard

[pliant mortar]

oh yea

[swift forge]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/changelogs/0-8-1
This is the old methodology they used.

[pliant mortar]

i got it when i first got my pc

[swift forge]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/changelogs/1-1
This is their current testing for latency

[stuck tulip]

Any budget mouses with tonnes of programmable keys?

[unkempt dome]

thanx ... it's my diagnostic keyboard so I won't be using it much unless I have to ghetto rig something

it does feel way better than when it had the outemu blue

[spark hatch]

ah I see, yea im sure its much better

[unkempt dome]

yes totally ... but still not as good as the stock 3068b

[spark hatch]

yea but thats a totally different price bracket and if you already had it laying around might aswell make it nicer to use

[unkempt dome]

k552 was one of my first mechanical keyboard

[past vortex]

hu, seems like it's behind a pay wall, so no clue what their new test method is.

[swift forge]

nani

you get three free reviews

and, how I manage to get an infinite amount? Apple iOS/macOS glitch

once you're out of the freebies, double press home button or close safari on macOS

[past vortex]

I don't know, like I click on them,a nd they're all blurred out.

[swift forge]

on iOS, go back to the last free mouse review, refresh

on macOS, refresh once you're back on that mouse tab

[swift forge]

which one?

the links to the reviews?

[past vortex]

all the ones on the page you linked to

[swift forge]

are you on Android

Rip

[past vortex]

it's all 'Get Insider Access for pictures & test results'

[swift forge]

I'll send a ss rq

ignore the second latency point, idk the latency before this update

second image is the current update

first, the previous one where the GPX's latency was 9.5ms wireless

rn its latency is measured as 3.5ms over USB receiver wireless (second method)

[past vortex]

everything I see is high speed camera. 🤷

[swift forge]

could be both high speed camera and the USB capture

video filmed by high speed camera

but the actual data given by the usb device

[swift forge]

This was their previous methodology. You can see this critic wasn't too happy with it for the same reason I thought it flawed.

written October 18, 2021

the current methodology was implemented May 30, 2022

and the SRAV graph for sensor accuracy deviations was added very recently, 5 days ago on Aug 01, 2022

Done before you asked

tangled cables @past vortex

been like this for 1 1/2 years now

[past vortex]

I hope linus hunts you down, and pimps your house with intel. 😉

[swift forge]

He already made a statement about how difficult it'd be to hand over LTT to family members as CEO if he dies, probably won't risk his life for it

I have a steel table that can make quite the impact and resulting imprint on his forehead

though it'd be a regretful death, since I watch daily his channel's videos

also, he wouldn't kill a child if he has one too, would he?

I'm adolescent

[past vortex]

like if they're mesuring the diffrence between, 2 to 3. that seerms promising. But if that's what they're doing, they don't make it clear that's what their doing, and there no specs of the device. Like if it's usb 3.0, 8000 hz, running at us, extra.

[tribal jackal]

what affects a keyboards response time? is it the switches? if yes then whats the best possible choice? i hsve a keychron c1 and i been interested in replacing the gat browns it has

[swift forge]

Polling rate can play a factor too

[eternal wraith]

switches don’t affect a keyboards response time unless for some reason the conductive pads or hotswap sockets are failing

at worst, they’ll worsen your reflexes because switches are preference

but yeah, main factors are usb polling rate, firmware and hardware on the pcb itself

[oblique sky]

scuffed sound test plus u can hear me deafening pressed the keybind on accident

and dw the dog wont judge u

[sacred temple]

Hi!!!

Need some recommendations, want a TKL low profile ISO keyboard. For Gaming and productivity, I really dont care if it is wired o wireless.

[unkempt dome]

check if keychron have something that fits your needs ... I'm pretty sure they do

[languid crane]

stuck between logitech mx keys mini and the mechanical mini

[past vortex]

well some switches activate at the top of the strokes, bottom of the stroke, or some where in between. More travel time, the longer it takes to activate. D bounce can cause latency as well.

[unkempt dome]

So, in the heat of battle, you can easily not bottom out switches?

[past vortex]

you only have to bottom switches if you want to. 🤷 Ether way you have less latency.

[unkempt dome]

Not significantly tho

[sweet thunder]

Or just get wooting switches and set the actuation wherever and have it reset wherever

[rich storm]

that new wooting board is so enticing. I cant justify another KB tho

[sweet thunder]

Just sell your current kb

[rich storm]

the second I pick one to sell, Ill immediately regret it, I know it

[mighty veldt]

Does anyone know where i can get the akko 75B plus. In silver and black with white or sliver lubed switches? I dont know much about keyboards but it seems to be out of stock everywhere. Also if there is another similar keyboard then i will def check it out. My budget is around $100 USD

[unkempt dome]

You checked their website and also amazon ?
And also epomaker website ?

Check their mod line in DIY section ... might be something there for you

[sacred temple]

No ISO layout for the K1 in Spanish or us english

[unkempt dome]

Us english won't have iso

Look for iso UK layout

[warm trellis]

should i get the rk68 or the keychron k2

[latent blaze]

Are you planning to use it wireless and are you planning on using rgb or just a solid color or no backlight

[languid crane]

Is anyone using the keychron k2 v2 ?

[warm trellis]

wired and rgb

so ima guess

the rk8

[latent blaze]

well depends on whether the extra cost of the k2 matters to you at all

[latent blaze]

rk68 has better wireless support and is a great budget board with better rgb software but the k2 is a better board overall esp if wired

rk is still a great board so if the extra 20-30 that the k2 costs matters to you id go for the rk

[warm trellis]

costs matter so rk it is

[latent blaze]

plus you can spend the extra money on lube, better switches, keycaps, stabs etc etc

im typing on an rk84 as we speak and i love it :)

[untold totem]

im on windows 11 and the keys are v esc x z c r t f g and control

[autumn raft]

Finally got a new one 😅

[swift forge]

How’d you type them rn

[languid crane]

has anyone got the kechron k2 v2

[latent blaze]

why do you ask?

[languid crane]

thinkink of buying, wondering how good it is to type on ?

@latent blaze

[latent blaze]

well its a good keyboard for the price

i have the rk84 which is a bit cheaper and usually the go to budget 75% pick for me

though the k2 is also very good so you should look at sound tests to find which you prefer, the switches wont be drastically different as both use similar switches

[latent blaze]

wired or wireless? RGB or no RGB?

also up to looks of the keycaps if you arent swapping them out

personally though id say the rk84 is better but they are somewhat similar in “performance”

[elder stone]

eh, it's just that RK's QC is crap

I'd rather spend up a bit to get something like an Akko PC75B/5075B

[latent blaze]

Not really…

Plus pc75b is pretty loud stock

rk84 is basically the best budget board full stop

[sand scarab]

akko keyboards are amazing and their designs/art is really dope

[spark hatch]

they're art isnt all original\

they are nice tho

[tribal jackal]

thanks, so if i ever want to get a lower response time, i have to buy a keyboard that has it

[eternal wraith]

if it’s advertised to have a higher than average polling rate, it probably does

then again anything higher than 1000hz in a keeb is not worth it

[swift forge]

Optical switches usually have faster response times

[eternal wraith]

^

[tribal jackal]

but replacing a kb with mech switches to optical isnt possible right?

[ionic briar]

Nope

Cause how they registered a keypress are different

[languid crane]

white backlight and maybe brown or red swicthes

[sand scarab]

I tested my keyboard responsiveness on a website while simultaneously trying to hit a key as fast as I can I get 64ms on average and some close to 12ms

It's an optical keyboard

[languid crane]

for anyone with any logi bolt comptatible devices - do you use the logi bolt ot bluetooth to connect to your device and why ?

[coral obsidian]

I am looking for a white mechanical keyboard for a build. Do you guys have any recommendations?

[urban panther]

budget?

[coral obsidian]

@urban panther : Quality 🙂 I'll pay for it.

[urban panther]

aight, thousand dollar keyboard rec time

[valid crown]

its time to buy a model F

[granite thicket]

any recommendations on nice gaming keyboards?

[swift forge]

That’s the amount of debounce time registered by the computer

I’ve used those websites before, always pretty high; most accurate measurement = tap the key as quickly as you can

I assume you casually pressed a key once, then tapped it

[urban panther]

Any razer or corsair with optical switches
I personally prefer light, linear opticals for FPS gaming

[swift forge]

Wooting HE series beats that a long way

Glorious GMMK 2 is also a good choice @granite thicket

[granite thicket]

thats gonna be better then any razer/logitech out there?

[swift forge]

Yes

By a long way

[granite thicket]

@swift forge What would you say are the main differences between the two?
I have a razer blackwidow chroma v2 and i feel like its pretty ok but was curious if there was anything better

[unkempt dome]

Razer used to be really robust, heavy keyboard and their old cherry switches were not that scratchy ... but now I don't know... I think they decided to just cut corner everywhere and give up on build quality

Something like the gmmk will just feel way better and it's not even considered that good nowadays

One thing I can say about my blackwiddow stealth 2013 ... it was feeling/build quality was way better than the Anne pro 2

[granite thicket]

so what would you say would be a good upgrade from the blackwidow chroma v2?

[unkempt dome]

In the low cost side royal kludge
Kemove

If you want a bit more premium keychron and akko

Better than that it's probably group buy stuff territory and such which I don't know much about cause I'm not rich

[granite thicket]

so something like this? https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k5-ultra-slim-wireless-mechanical-keyboard

[unkempt dome]

Yes ... but personally I would not go with low profile but that is up to you

If you want more premium it's the Q series from keychron and the mod and acr series from akko

[sand scarab]

In theory could I just cut a full keyboard and just take the numpad out?

[unkempt dome]

you're better be buying a separate numpad ...

[swift forge]

You’ll want to use that wired for gaming

Personally I feel if it’s only for gaming you’re better off with a Glorious GMMK 2 or Wooting 60HE

They come feature packed for the purpose, Wooting having adjustable pre travel, the ability to map multiple functions to one key, tachyon mode enabling very low input latency, online website for customising software (instead of a bloatware app)

[swift forge]

The HE are also Hall effect optical switches

If you decide to type normally on the 60HE, optimum tech says it beats his custom in terms of acoustics

[vestal pike]

does any other company sell buckling springs other than unicomp?

[cunning anvil]

ahh qwerty is slightly weird after even just a bit of use with another layout

[sweet thunder]

Hall effect and optical are different switch types

You mean Hall effect analog switches

[swift forge]

Mb yes

But do Hall effect digital switches exist?

or are those just normal Hall effect switches

[sweet thunder]

Hall effect is always analog. I suppose there is a way to implement the sensor in such a way that it’s got a small enough sensing range to effectively behave like a “digital” switch

You can also get analog out of optical

[swift forge]

Just not as accurate, I’ve heard

Like the unstable implementation on the Razer Huntsman V2 Analog and Huntsman Mini Analog

[sweet thunder]

I’m not familiar with the huntsman other than it’s measuring light intensity and converting that to analog

[swift forge]

Reviews say it’s not worth more than a try

Since optical is a lot less accurate than HE

[sweet thunder]

But wooting’s old analog switches were optical too and pretty good

Their switch was a lot more complicated however

[swift forge]

Well always gotta be a reason why they switched to Hall effect

[swift forge]

^

The Wooting One was a hotswap board compatible with other optical switches tho

Perhaps the complexity was why they switched

[sweet thunder]

The stems had a couple refractors on them that redirected the laser to different parts of the sensor, and they were able to map the different areas to different analog levels

[swift forge]

Too many variables, too many possible troubles

Water spill, switch killed

[sweet thunder]

I mean their HE is hot-swappable too

[swift forge]

But only with Gateron X Lekker switches

[sweet thunder]

The old one was also only hot swappable with their own switches

[swift forge]

Well at least they had two variants of optical

Clicky and linear

Now you only get a teal stem linear

[sweet thunder]

They had manufacturer issues with the flaretech switches and later batches were kinda rough

[ionic briar]

they could jam a click leaf in if they want

[sweet thunder]

Could yeah

Bring back alps

[ionic briar]

clickiez proved that its possible in the mx footprint

otherwise they could ask kailh to make a click bar version

[sweet thunder]

Well it does have a very different top housing

It’s also not the first Mx compatible alps switch

[swift forge]

Well they stopped with the Wooting Ones production

All this is likely just a pipe dream now

[sweet thunder]

Yeah it didn’t sell well

Until after they were sitting on dead stock for a year and it blew up in fork knife

[swift forge]

I would’ve bought it tbh

I wonder with the dead stock, if the employees just customised it with some manufacturing gear and made the remaining TKL boards into Hall effect switch compatible ones

for their own usage

[sweet thunder]

You can’t

They never made a TKL HE PCB

[swift forge]

Well that’s why it’s only for the employees

Just revamped the inside of the remaining Wooting ones

possibly they did that, I cannot confirm

Nor endorse the idea that they never tried this

[sweet thunder]

I’m 99% sure they didn’t

The tooling costs wouldn’t have made sense to make like 5 PCBs

The whole development of the Lekker switches is pretty well documented in their discord

They went full size first with the Lekker because the wooting 2 optical, a full size, sold a lot better than the wooting 1, which was a TKL

The original manufacturer for the Lekker switch actually pulled out which is where gateron comes in

Which is interesting because gateron also makes the other Hall effect switch, omnipoint, for Steelseries

[swift forge]

It’s Hall effect??

as in Omnipoint

[sweet thunder]

Yes

[swift forge]

💀

[sweet thunder]

However their sensing isn’t as precise and their software sucks

[swift forge]

Welp I mean, the only thing you can really do with Omnipoint is adjustable pretravel

and it’s a mechanical switch as well

so you have debounce

[sweet thunder]

No it’s just Hall effect

There’s no debounce because there’s no contact leafs

If Steelseries were actually good they could implement a lot of wooting’s software features into their board but nah

[swift forge]

Steelseries marketing for HE switches - longer lifespan than mech, adjustable pre-travel, lower key press latency

Wooting - four commands to one switch, adjustable pre-travel, instant reset, tachyon mode

[sweet thunder]

I think they did it that way to make it easily understood for normies

[swift forge]

I mean the four commands to one switch thing kinda already screams low press latency in its own

Like how else would you be able to rapidly activate four commands on a single key

Press it at different angles? She trippi-

[swift forge]

I think their strategy was to expensively price the Apex Pro to earn enough to implement the other features Wooting did

With some residue to fund new projects

Or build confidence by seeing the size of the customer audience for Omnipoint switches and start a poll on Reddit or somewhere to ask whether Wootings features could be implemented

But they made the price too high initially and it was seen as a luxury

[sweet thunder]

Good theory, except all they’ve done for the omnipoint 2.0 is slightly more accurate sensing and 2 actions per key press. Even razer copied the 2 actions per key press a lot sooner.

[swift forge]

Plus the practicality was seen as “not really” by most users

[swift forge]

Yessiree

Wooting - Lets max out the Hall effect

the one thing Steelseries did wrong with the Apex Pro in my opinion was to give it a 100% format

In which case you could just normally map macro keys with 20 extras as options

[sweet thunder]

there is a TKL

[swift forge]

but the Wooting 60HE is endgame, as the compact layout is essentially virtually doubled with the mod tap and 4 per key function mapping

If every key were set to 4 functions, you’d have 240 total or more (haven’t bothered to count the exact No of keys on a 60%)

[sweet thunder]

steelseries also recently launched a 60%

[swift forge]

With Omnipoint?

[sweet thunder]

yes

[swift forge]

But that’s wireless and even more expensive

[sweet thunder]

its not competitive from a features standpoint

[swift forge]

Wireless could be a pro

But the 60HE is a universal gasket, so you could mount any 60% board on top of it and put the Lekkers in that

[sweet thunder]

but your average consumer is more likely to recognise steelseries than it is to recognise wooting

[swift forge]

Wooting is defying that rn

[sweet thunder]

i hope so

[swift forge]

With my statement I was referring to initial strategy, btw

Pretty sure it was 100% first then TKL version release

[sweet thunder]

no the full size and tkl released at the same time

[swift forge]

Welp either way not effective in terms of HE implementation

Wooting bested Steelseries here mainly because of the mod tap functionality (Apex Pro Mini vs 60HE)

tap a key for one function, press and hold for another

This is especially useful in a compact board as secondary functions tend to require FN + (insert key) to activate on many other boards like the Razer Huntsman Mini, Logitech Pro X TKL and the Apex Pro Mini itself

And no one wants to need to press two keys for one function if there’s a board which can do it with only one key just pressed differently but not enigmatically

[sweet thunder]

mod tap has been around in QMK for several years at this point

it is nice to see them bring more stuff from the hobbyist side of things

[swift forge]

Relating to your point, is Steelseries GG more widely known or QMK?

lol

No mod tap in steelseries software = L

[sweet thunder]

GG is pretty new and quite a lot worse than just the old steelseries engine

[swift forge]

And for the record, Glorious Core is the software for mice

[fading flame]

any good keybaord under 50 USD

shipping to india

[sleek elk]

Bajeal K300 / K100, its hot swappable, just buy your own switches its from aliexpress/banggood, i made min into a $400 keyboard

[harsh timber]

guys what do you recommend for a first DIY keyboard ? (Full size if possible)

also i forgot I am in Japan so I need a JIS keyboard ...

[river ermine]

@swift forgegermany. pretty dang cheap like 60 euros. keybaord linear rgb (with software) dosent need to be hotswappable. im also looking for a decent like 20 euro or 10 mousepad. desk size and maybe a decent mouse like 30 euros but bluetooth

[hardy grove]

https://www.amazon.in/Mechanical-Keyboard-Certified-Anti-Ghosting-Functionality/dp/B08HVMHYHY/ref=sr_1_1?crid=S6CDO4IUHDN&keywords=hermes+e3+optical&qid=1660073875&s=electronics&sprefix=hermes+e3+optical%2Celectronics%2C182&sr=1-1 Does this keyboard really support analog like input like the more premium optical keyboards or is it just a marketing scam type thingy?

[swift forge]

If you want good quality analog buy the Wooting 60HE

I don’t think mechanical switches can ever do analog as accurately

[hardy grove]

i actually tried doing that

but its unvailable in my country

[hardy grove]

im just looking for a little bit of that functionality for GTA online driving

i am aware it is quite hard to control and is a bit of a gimmick

[thorny hound]

hey I wanna switch from a membrane keyboard is keychron K8 a good choice to switch to as my first mechanical keyboard?

[swift forge]

Sure is, if you want to go down the enthusiast rabbit hole and have a bit more cash you could opt for a ducky one 3, around 8 different switch options

Then you can use hotswap to your advantage and experiment with other switches from other brands other than Cherry MX which is stock

[ionic briar]

like contact switches?
or you mean optical switches

[broken totem]

I just acquired an old dell keyboard and it actually sounds pretty nice other than the spacebar which sounds like it probably has some bad stabilizers or smth =

Oh yeah and I'm just gonna hope none of it's glued or soldered because yeah I might take it apart for a tape mod

If/when I get proper tools ofc

[sand scarab]

Use some grease for the stabilizer

A toothpick and a bit of grease on it if it's hard to reach should do the trick

a tap mode makes the sound deeper

[broken totem]

Yeah actually do you want me to send a sound demo

[sand scarab]

sure

[broken totem]

I wanna share how crappy the spacebar is to everything else

[sand scarab]

let's do it

[sand scarab]

jesus why is the space bar so big?

[broken totem]

Idk man

It's an old keyboard lmao

Like super old probably like 15+ years

[sand scarab]

Here have a listen to my spacebar

[broken totem]

Nicee

[sand scarab]

it's not lubed or grease it's soldered unfortunately

can't reach the stabilizer

[broken totem]

oof

Still sounds pretty good I mean I'm new to the whole "liking the way keyboards sound" thing

[sand scarab]

some people take it to the extreme

I just hate a keyboard that's loud asf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8acVR69RYTk

^ like this

[broken totem]

Yeah I like the quieter, softer sounding keyboards as well.

[safe tiger]

how much does a keychron q1 generalyl go for on the market

USD

[cunning tundra]

hi, im thinking of buying a corsair MM300 extended mouse mat, just wanted to know if its worth

[swift forge]

What DPI do you play at?

[cunning tundra]

for shooting games, i play at either 250 or 500

[swift forge]

25- 💀

[cunning tundra]

yes

[swift forge]

do you prefer control, speed or a little bit of both

[cunning tundra]

botg

both

[swift forge]

Zowie-GSR-se

lemme see how expensive the mm300 is, brb

[cunning tundra]

its 30 usd

i think

[swift forge]

do you need an entire deskmat?

or just enough to move your mouse across the entire surface

whats the budget, btw

[cunning tundra]

yea

budget is below 40 usd

im poor

😭

[swift forge]

https://www.amazon.com/FNATIC-Performance-Gaming-Control-Surface/dp/B09JCPPZ6R/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2ASUH9TLOL01G&keywords=Fnatic+Dash&qid=1660114973&sprefix=fnatic+dash+%2Caps%2C337&sr=8-2
Enjoy a good mousepad for the price

[cunning tundra]

how about the mm300 tho?

[swift forge]

its decent

but fnatic is an esports org themselves, so

[cunning tundra]

aight

thx

[swift forge]

what mouse do you own?

this is a control pad, but rated for a "fast glide"

so you might need to use more finger strength to start/stop mouse movement

[cunning tundra]

g502 heeo

hero*

[swift forge]

Is it heavy in your opinion?

[cunning tundra]

its alright

[swift forge]

what type of surface would you rate your current mousepad?

[cunning tundra]

bro i dont even have one 💀

[swift forge]

or before it started making you drunk

[swift forge]

oh-

[cunning tundra]

im playing on a wood surface

[swift forge]

ah

[cunning tundra]

but my hands are sweaty so

my hands tend to get stuck to the table 💀

[swift forge]

Could couple that pad with grip tape tbh

just adjust your sensitivity if you find the pad with a little too much friction

[cunning tundra]

ok

[swift forge]

might take a few days or so to get used to it

[cunning tundra]

aight

[storm vortex]

yo, I happen to own a rk 61 and want to mod it

I've been looking at the tecsee carrot switches and I really like the way they sound

this is the part where you tell me if I am stupid and need to buy something else or not

[unkempt dome]

Carrot are quite good and if you get them on sale then go for it

[cerulean copper]

buy silent switches
put in keyboard
press on key
sound
what a scam

[chrome raft]

I believe you can change weight

[swift forge]

Lightest weight is still >100g

[chrome raft]

if you get used to it it will be light enough

I have 90g mouse

and its great

[swift forge]

Logitech G703?

or G403

[chrome raft]

some cheap neon m10

[swift forge]

Once you purchase the Logitech GPX you can never go back

Also, it’ll start to be a pain in the ass if you happen to have something like a wrist injury

At that point only true statistics saves you

[chrome raft]

if I upgrade my mouse,I'll probably go with razer

[swift forge]

Don’t

Their software is a pain in the ass

[chrome raft]

I'm on strict buget,as pays in my country are small

[swift forge]

There are far better budget mice

[chrome raft]

I've bearly changed colour of my keyboard

[rich storm]

so this is obviously the high end of the market, but the viper v2 pro feels like a cheap toy compared to the superlight

[swift forge]

Unless you’re talking the Viper Mini

G-wolves has the Skoll Mini, or SKS

Same price

[chrome raft]

is G402 Hyperion any good?

[swift forge]

And lighter than the Superlight

[swift forge]

Not bad

[rich storm]

doesnt g-wolves have a pretty spotty qc history?

[swift forge]

although ♻️

[swift forge]

No

Not anymore at least

The skoll mini blew me away tbh

[chrome raft]

I might get that one and later upgrade to G305 hero

[swift forge]

You get a detachable cable (wired mouse though), tin box for storage, grip tape, spare feet

[chrome raft]

but this one is still working,so in few months

[swift forge]

A high quality mouse

With a PixArt PAW 3389 sensor I believe

or 3360 I forgor

[chrome raft]

first search

[rich storm]

I cant do tiny little mice

superlight seems to fit me perfectly

[chrome raft]

I am 14

so small hands

[chrome raft]

razer really does have issues with software

[swift forge]

I am 13; 5’9

Big hand go brrr

[chrome raft]

I was just setting up synosa v2 keyboard

impossible

[chrome raft]

nice

[swift forge]

Last time I came into contact with razer synapse was a demo PC at a tech store

[chrome raft]

I came in contact 2mins ago

[swift forge]

Tried to set up the Razer Blackwidow V3, to no avail

Kept bugging me with ads, privacy policy, ts and cs

[chrome raft]

they have some "win stuff"

you can use razer cortex on phone by installing apps,watching adds and doing some other stuff

to get silver and if you get 150,000 silver you get some mouse

[glass tundra]

Hello. I have a question about switches. I'm new to mechanical keyboards (I've been always using membrane) and I'm looking for a good type for me. I'm a writer, I write a lot: essays, RPG master games schematics, etc. I write some things in Visual Studio Code. I also play games, but not that much. I've heard to avoid Outemu switches and go with Gateron switches. Red are good for writing a lot or it's better to use blue switches? Or brown? What would you recommend in this case? I don't have a possibility to test them (unfortunately)

[rocky crescent]

Gateron switches are really good when youre getting into keyboards, i had the same issue with you and i didnt know what do get, obv it will all come down to preference but since u game and type a lot id imagine that you would also be a linear lover

i would recommend gateron yellows

i have the yellows and the browns, the browns just have that tactility which im not a fan of but the switch isnt bad

but the stock gateron yellows will feel really really nice if ur new to mechanical keyboard

blues are honestly too obnoxious, theyre really common for newcomers because the click is kinda the staple of mechanical keyboards?? if u get what i mean

they will feel nice if youve never had a mechanical keyboard but after a while you would find it way too loud and obnoxious so its better to go for the linears

[astral spire]

anyone experience with the mountain everest max keyboard?

on youtube its all positive

[rocky crescent]

damn that keyboard

[astral spire]

but when going and searching reviews from individuals they say customer service is bad and some just arrive dead

[rocky crescent]

do you stream?

[astral spire]

nope

just want a nice keyboard

[rocky crescent]

ehhh wouldnt really go for that keyboard if u want a nice one

its popular because of its macros and all that other buttons

really good if ur a streamer

but for its price tag wouldnt really go for it

unless you love the accessibility that it provides

[astral spire]

there isnt much choice
i want a TKL that is hotswappable (prefferebly mx blue out of box) and from a decent brand not some aliexpress shit

if you got any suggestions im open to it

i really dont have much use for the macros tbh

[sweet thunder]

Keychron q3

[chrome raft]

Maybe logitech?

[unkempt dome]

Type or switches don't matter, it's preference

[chrome raft]

I like membrane quite a lot

mechanic is quite good but membarane I've gotten used to

[unkempt dome]

Membrane or rubber dome

[chrome raft]

rubber

quite silent

and responsive

[glass tundra]

Thanks for the fast replies ❤️

[placid linden]

Not bad for $6 at a goodwill. Nice upgrade over my stock HP keyboard

[astral spire]

Don’t like their g pro keyboard design

And I think that’s only one with hot-swappable switches

Keychron seems a good option just not in stock where I live

[chrome raft]

razer maybe?good keyboard,sh!tty software

[astral spire]

Razed has hotswap??

[chrome raft]

I think there's one

RAZER BLACKWIDOW

[astral spire]

🤔

[chrome raft]

https://www.razer.com/gaming-keyboards/razer-blackwidow-v3-pro/

[unkempt dome]

Razer ... shitty software, shitty keyboard

[chrome raft]

I don't like software,but keyboard is good

[ionic briar]

meh, i would rather buy a wooting two he for the same price

[chrome raft]

Linus here says its one of best under 75$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S-U5f140-U

[ionic briar]

but its not 75 usd?

[chrome raft]

under

[ionic briar]

yea
the blackwidow v3 you linked is 230 usd

also, the one featured in that video is the ornata which is a hyper tactile rubber dome with a click leaf to make you feel good for buying a rubber dome keyboard with gamer rgb features

[chrome raft]

right,different currencies

lol

[ionic briar]

you didnt even linked the only razer board featured on the source video

what

[chrome raft]

its in description

[ionic briar]

then whats the point of the blackwidow v3 then?

and if we talk about the ornata, i have given my opinion
its a rubber dome board trying to be a clicky alps while appeals to the edgy gamer with the lightning

the value you got from the board is fucking shit.

have fun with rubber dome deforming and ghosting on you later on its lifecycle

if we talked about the video itself, all the options featured ranging from "its brand name its good" to "barely acceptable"

[unkempt dome]

Linus is not much a reference for keyboard tho ...

I would take a rosewill, redragon or royal kludge any day before razer, logitech or corsair keyboards

[astral spire]

No the main brand keyboards ask to much for brand rather than product

Okay so what about a
ducky one 3 rgb tkl

Or Royal kludge rk87 2022

My keyboard currently has shit stabilizers and I chose the wrong switches and it’s all soldered shit and don’t feel like wasting time on it

[urban panther]

the keyboard arena has changed significantly since this video was released

[chrome raft]

As per recommendations,I got logitech mouse (G402 Hyperion Fury)

[hollow creek]

Hey people, i have a logitech G710+ and the windows key stopped working for me? any tips?

[chrome raft]

Switch may have died,how old is it?

[hollow creek]

maybe 3 years, but the right windows key dosent work either, and i cant find any solutions for it online

[chrome raft]

unplug and plug back in?

[hollow creek]

lol thats the 1st thing i did

[chrome raft]

have you tried using their app to restart it?

[hollow creek]

no i dont have the app for it, maybe ill try that

[hollow creek]

nothing in the software

i found it, the keybpard has a gameing mode that disables it

[unkempt dome]

Ducky one 3 is decent from what I heard

Royal kludge can have spotty quality

[obsidian fossil]

4 years old k70 with red switches for 25 bucks gud?

its the rapidfire one

[urban panther]

As long as its working and not super gross, its a great find for $25

[obsidian fossil]

it has a lot of dust but it works and sounds super good

i don't like how the space-bar sounds tho is there a cheap way i can change the sound?

[urban panther]

maybe look for k70 mods on youtube?

[obsidian fossil]

i think ill put some foam in the case and fully restore it

[sweet thunder]

Keychron Q3

[jaunty arrow]

ayo quick question can i tape and foam mod any mechanical keyboard or only hotswappable? cuz i wanna test how a cheap mechanical keyboard would sound modded

[lost berry]

Tape and Foam should be fine with any keyboard. Just make sure your foam isn't conductive or it may short the PCB

[rich storm]

so long as you can get to the underside of the PCB. Lots of cheaper boards like to hide screws under rubber feet that get destroyed if removed

[lost berry]

A pair of tweezers should do the trick, but you still might need some glue

[jaunty arrow]

Ill just use some super glue i think it should be fine

[swift forge]

Is the keyboard hotswap?

and if it’s full size, isn’t there another on the right/left side of the kb

[swift forge]

Decent buy

[hollow rain]

which one o fthese are better? i dont quite know the difference
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/cherry-mx-3-0s-rgb-gaming-keyboard-black-mx-red-silent
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/cherry-mx-3-0s-rgb-gaming-keyboard-black-mx-brown-switch
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/cherry-mx-3-0s-rgb-gaming-keyboard-black-mx-blue-switch

[swift forge]

None of them

What’s your budget

Red is linear, typically lower actuation force but no click or bump just a direct bottom out ahead

Brown feels like linears with stones in them, moderate to low typing resistance

Clicky has an audible click and feels tactile, higher typing resistance than MX Browns or MX Reds if we’re talking Cherry MX

[hollow rain]

id like under $200 and i dont want wireless

[swift forge]

What currency? Saw a German thanks somewhere in #build-a-pc, suppose you mean euros

Or do you mean USD?

[swift forge]

For just gaming or more purposes?

Sorry if this is quite inquisitive, just going through the stuff that gives accurate suggestions

[hollow rain]

AUD

[hollow rain]

i wann abe able to type for school or work as well as game well, and because ive never had one before, id like RGB lol, never had anything RGB before

if it helps, i am currently using a Lenovo KBBH21 keyboard at/for work and used to use HP keyboard that came with hp pavilion 7975 PC

back in 2000s

[past vortex]

what brand of mouse do you use?

[swift forge]

Glorious GMMK 2

if its available somewhere in aus

[hollow rain]

use a $5 mouse i bought years ago, it's decent

[past vortex]

what's your budget?

[hollow rain]

anything that doesnt have this part bunched up?

[hollow rain]

for keyboard $200 AUD. for mouse, idk, $20AUD?

[swift forge]

The GMMK 2 does... 96% layout

theres a 65% as well

[swift forge]

$20 AUD... 💀

[hollow rain]

wait doe sthe 96 mean keys take up 96% of the board?

[swift forge]

I was going to suggest the Wooting 60HE but i just found out its $275 NZD my side so not that much more affordable your side

[swift forge]

96% size

so, bunched up numberpad, no home pad (the part above the arrow keys)

[hollow rain]

ahh found the right one https://www.mwave.com.au/product/glorious-gmmk-modular-rgb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-gateron-brown-ac18971

[swift forge]

a mouse for $20 AUD, it'd be your lucky day if you can cop a G-wolves Skoll Mini SKS

it goes for $50 NZD usually

[hollow rain]

ohhh, so 100% is what i would be looking for..

[swift forge]

thats full size yes

[sharp hatch]

Is Logitech g710 a good keyboard?

[swift forge]

If you're willing to wait two to three months for it, how about a Wooting Two HE exceeding your budget by $40

[sharp hatch]

Compared to a Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse?

[swift forge]

Buy something else

what's your budget

and what currency

[sharp hatch]

My budget is 50 usd?

[spark hatch]

rk61

[sharp hatch]

Send link

[spark hatch]

google it

[hollow rain]

$70AUD, dude does AUS have a tax for these now or something? lol

[hollow rain]

linus tech tips vid?

[sharp hatch]

There’s a lot

[sharp hatch]

Which keyboard?

[hollow rain]

there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGFZK6Ru28o

[spark hatch]

theres alot of configs

https://www.amazon.com/RK-ROYAL-KLUDGE-Ultra-Compact-Multi-Device/dp/B08G4P7KZQ

but threre

[hollow rain]

and this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S-U5f140-U

[swift forge]

Pulsar Lunar Alloy TKL, or the Royal Kludge RK61

[sharp hatch]

Those are some outdated vids

[hollow rain]

theyre somethin to go by

[spark hatch]

^

[swift forge]

not anymore, they're trash quality in 2022 ngl

[spark hatch]

tehy always werer

[hollow rain]

what i mean is, theyre good to use and look at the newer ones o fthem based on the vid and review

which of these mice would you guys rate?
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/technology/gaming/gaming-mouse?cm_mmc=Google:SEM:Always_on:RP|Technology|Computer+Accessories|Gaming|||Brand|SE|BRD|&s_kwcid=AL!12073!3!558084963770!b!!g!!officeworks gaming mouses_kwcid=AL!12073!3!558084963770!b!!g!!officeworks gaming mouse&gclid=CjwKCAjw0dKXBhBPEiwA2bmObc0uKYnPI_6enWjLoR1SZn7WEI-ClbQ2OJQGIY1Bt0GDJEucDheyXhoC7M8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[swift forge]

quality of his grammar = quality of those keyboards

[swift forge]

save up and cop this if you can 🙏

[spark hatch]

^^

[hollow rain]

it's good?

[spark hatch]

yes

its very goood for the price, used one for years

[swift forge]

very durable, great weight, great package all in all

and you get good software and pog performance with that one

G HUB is mildly irritating, but not like Razer Synapse where its a pain in the ass

[hollow rain]

that vs the one you recommended, which woul dbe better?

regardless of cost

[swift forge]

for the package, the G-wolves would be slightly better in terms of hardware

because it comes with a tin collectable/storage box

grip tape, and extra mouse feet

like the Logitech Pro X Superlight does, but even higher quality

the cable is also detachable so its easy to use third-party ones

for the G-wolves Skoll Mini

its software-less though, iirc

and a honeycomb mouse, so if you prefer heavier and not holes in the mouse body, Logitech G203 👈

also the Skoll Mini, like its name is a mini mouse

so much smaller than the G203

[hollow rain]

not too fussed on weight, but if the gwolf one is better and had detachable cord, that might be more preferred. better long term

[sharp hatch]

I need a good mouse and keyboard

Budget is $50

Doesn’t need rgb

[hollow rain]

you US right?

lastly just curious, the cord here detachable for this keyboard?
Glorious GMMK Modular

[sharp hatch]

Yes

[swift forge]

GMMK 2 yes

GMMK, not so sure

[swift forge]

for both a mouse and keeb... not much I can do

[hollow rain]

dont you guys have tech speciic stores where you can check out keyboards? like test the ones within a price range out that are on display?

like best buy?

[swift forge]

Micro Centre

Best Buy

yep they do

[hollow rain]

i would probs say that's @sharp hatch 's best bet really?

[sharp hatch]

Ok can you tell me if the one I have is good or not

It’s a Microsoft brand one

I can’t get specs for another while tho

[hollow rain]

hard to tell, isnt there a lot of microsoft keyboards?

[stuck plume]

My keyboard is; pulsar PCMK TKL with circular matt black keycaps and EVGA speed linear switches. Switches could do with replacing but the rest is perfect.

(sorry about dirty mousepad.)

[unkempt dome]

Keychron K line or akko

[hollow rain]

thanks ill check it out

[unkempt dome]

Outdated video

[hollow rain]

yeah but i mean to use that video to look at those brands and simlar newer editions fo the recommended ones and see if theyre good enough or better

[swift forge]

That looks better than I thought it would imo

[stuck plume]

It looks amazing with the RGB on too. Sadly no RGB software ATM so I can't use custom configs, only my last-used RGB config or any presets. Still cool though. The RGB software is nice too! Not very buggy, only sometimes crashes or goes out of sync so when it does that, animated RGB will look stuttery, but no other bugs! They're usually simple fixes too like closing and opening back up the app or unplugging and re-plugging in the keyboard.

Also you can get the keyboard as a kit or I think if you go on their website you can get it pre-made with switches and everything. I got it off Amazon though so I had to get switches myself but I had the keycaps just lying around off a cheap, other mechanical keyboard.

[swift forge]

Preassembled is the Pulsar Lunar Alloy TKL, barebones and BYO switches and keycaps is the PCMK

[stuck plume]

Ohh ok.

Still.

[chrome raft]

That keyboard reminds me of typewriter

[hardy grove]

What elmers glue does to a blue switch

Also I’m sorry for that earrape💀

[stuck plume]

It's not though

[latent blaze]

circular keycaps tend to do that

[stuck plume]

I only like them because they feel nice under my fingers.

[zinc iris]

anyone else like me where they love the feel of oem e-waste keyboards from the late 90s and early 2000s, like old dell and hp pack in keyboards

yep, same reason I chose a 15 year old hp over a logitech g5100

[stuck plume]

Oh ok

[zinc iris]

which I for some reason own 2 of despit me pretty much never using them

[proven grove]

thoughts on HyperX Alloy Origins Core Gaming Mechanical Keyboard ? i want a tkl keyboard

[ionic briar]

aint bad for 70 usd

[stuck plume]

Lemme check

[proven grove]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hyperx-alloy-origins-core-tkl-wired-mechanical-tactile-aqua-switch-gaming-keyboard-with-rgb-back-lighting-black/6412548.p?skuId=6412548&fbclid=IwAR1jLdzYqogslpAA40yzsNV5WRAnuo6S7V0_1_ZEsANZpEBAIXmcvLCpEJY

[stuck plume]

Yeah. It's customizable and everything.

[proven grove]

look at this is it 49?

or do i have to be a best buy member

[stuck plume]

You can replace the switches too.

I'd suggest getting the linears though.

[ionic briar]

really?

[proven grove]

whats the difference

[stuck plume]

Yeah. Thankfully..

Or mabye it's not hotswap and amazon lied to me.

[ionic briar]

def not hotswappable

they uses through hole led which sits on top of the switch housing

[stuck plume]

Do you really not know the difference between clicky, tactile and linear switches? Man I spotted a non-keyboarder.

[ionic briar]

so unless they also do hotswap led socket, its prob soldered

[stuck plume]

That's pretty normal for switches though.

[proven grove]

man thats why im asking not everyone is

[stuck plume]

You could literally take 2 seconds to look it up.

Infact it's literally in the name of the switch.

[proven grove]

whats linear doe

[stuck plume]

It's in the name. It's linear all the way down as you press it.

Therefore it's the most quiet out of the three main ones.

Tactile has a click sorta like clicky but it doesn't make a noise.

Clicky has a clicky feel and it makes a click noise when you press it.

[ionic briar]

tactile has a event in its travel that increase the resistance that you need to overcome

[proven grove]

ic, ive been using this redragon k552 for a couple years now and its pretty loud

[ionic briar]

clicky is tactile but comes with an audible sound to let you know that you have actuated

[stuck plume]

It's why tactile has a clicky feel though.

It's literally the same as clicky except it doesn't make any noise.

[solemn forge]

i modded blue tacktiles that much there quiet

[stuck plume]

Andrew Tate is a terrible person.

[ionic briar]

they all have an event where the resistant to make the switch actuated increased but then dropped after you overcome
i would say that event fits the definition of tactile

it gives a feedback to your fingers

[solemn forge]

me or andrew tate

[proven grove]

any other suggestions than the hyperx one?

[stuck plume]

I just said Andrew Tate.

[solemn forge]

ok

[stuck plume]

The one I went with, pulsar PCMK TKL. Then again it doesn't come with switches or keycaps so youll have to buy your own and do more research.

The RGB software is really good too if you decide to use it.

[proven grove]

i mean i would but im looking for a finished keyboard atm

[stuck plume]

Then just buy a Logitech keyboard at that point.

[proven grove]

which tkl one

[swift forge]

Pro X TKL is hotswap; but that’s just about where the pros end

I have one rn

Build quality is 💩

Onboard mapped commands only work with software open

[stuck plume]

Any of them depending on what additional stuff you want; such as a LED screen with volume wheel.

[ionic briar]

oh keychron v1 could be one

[swift forge]

Pulsar Lunar Alloy TKL

That the finished version of the PCMK

It’s soldered switches, but you can mod it otherwise

[proven grove]

will check them out, thanks for the suggestions

[stuck plume]

Well that's stupid. The original PCMK has hotswap.

[swift forge]

That’s barebones though

You get no switches and no bitches

Unless you cash out for your own choice of switches and caps

[stuck plume]

??? Yeah but they could easily just use the same board between both of them!

[swift forge]

Pulsar sells the Lunar TKL for $49

If that’s not good, what about the EVGA Z15

[stuck plume]

Infact that would save them money!

[swift forge]

Full size, hotswap

Kailh speed switches

[stuck plume]

I mean I guess.

[swift forge]

It did save Pulsar the money

Using outemu switches

[stuck plume]

Yeah but they could have used the exact same board for both.

Wait can't you convert a non-hotswap board to hotswap using the things?

[swift forge]

Nani

[stuck plume]

The little hotswap holder things.

Cuz technically that's the only difference between a non-hotswap and hotswap board is those.

Atleast physically.

[swift forge]

confused screaming are you referring to the switch/keycap pullers?

[stuck plume]

No.

The things below the board that hold both prongs on the switches.

Where the soldering would go on a non-hotswap keyboard.

[ionic briar]

yes
using a thing called millmax socket

but those are a PITA to soldered onto the pads

[unkempt dome]

Can always use outemu hotswap socket

[sharp hatch]

I need a keyboard and mouse better than my Microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse 850

Budget is $50 usd

[sharp hatch]

Is there one better?

[west tulip]

Is Fantech MAXFIT67 good?

Guys?

[spark hatch]

rk61 and save for a logitech g305 or g205 (same mouse but wired)

[swift forge]

G203*

[spark hatch]

oh mb

yea

[pulsar folio]

Anyone know of custom keyboard cases that supports either a display or something along the lines of what stream deck is? Preferably a TKL sized one (mostly concerned about left to right width)

I’ve tried quite a few keyboards, though just prebuilt one, and the one I stuck with has always been Ducky One2 Mini… I have the Ducky One2 TKL too, but it just didn’t feel the same to type on regardless of the switches being the same… guessing it has a different sound profile because it’s a larger/different chassi

[glass tundra]

@rocky crescent Hi! I've bought keyboard with Gateron Brown switches and I find them very comfortable for fast writing stuffs. I was gaming too (mainly to test them), and they're much better than my old keyboard with a "chocolate design" (where my Right Shift was not working properly for some time). Keyboard works smoothly and nicely. I'm going to test other types of switches (if I have a chance), but I'm in love with brown! Thank you so much for your information ❤️

[proven grove]

i wanna change the keycaps on my redragon k552, any suggestions

[urban panther]

akko makes some decent keycaps

[unkempt dome]

yes totally ...
I also found some nice ones on amazon and ebay

[proven grove]

looking for 87 ones

87 keys

[unkempt dome]

there's a lot of set that can suit any keyboard size

most akko set does

[proven grove]

will they fit or are there specific sizes i should know about

[unkempt dome]

it's specified on the selling page usually

[sand jewel]

guys

i need help..

Looking for a keyboard in around 6000 INR budget

75.35 USD

[spark hatch]

Rk61 or keychron c1

[sand jewel]

Well Brown or Blue switches?

[spark hatch]

Personal preference

[sand jewel]

i don't game too much but i have a lot of typing work

[spark hatch]

Do you want tactile or clicky

[sand jewel]

Clicky ig

[sand jewel]

is this not 75%?

[spark hatch]

You never told me you wanted 75% but no niether of those are 75%

[spark hatch]

https://media.steelseriescdn.com/blog/posts/a-guide-on-gaming-keyboard-switches/63d6e74f9a8a4dbaaae6dcaed0b76479.gif

[sand jewel]

well still can live without arrow keys

well nice options dude unfortunately i reside in India 😂

thanks anyway

[spark hatch]

Keychron has an Indian website but I'm not sure on there pricing

And royal kludge might be on amazon?

[sand jewel]

they are

at double the rates

xD

[spark hatch]

ah yikes

[hardy grove]

look at something from HUO JI, they rebrand e yooso keyboards and are the only hot swappapble keyboards i could find in my budget which was also 6000 INR

the g413 has romer g so i suppose you dont want that anyways

this one fits your budget almost perfectly