lttstore

[undone copper]

I've had my bag for a year now, with near daily use for 6-8 hours a day, and it's still almost brand new looking

[topaz siren]

I really wish I could say the same. I'm lucky if I am at 1/4th that level of usage, and it looks like a cheap knock off 😭

I had a bestbuy employee ask to see my bag cause he recognized it, and when he looked at it, even he commented on how severely the shape seems to have been lost. That made me notice it much more, and yeah...

[undone copper]

Can you take a picture of the bottom of your bag? preferably laying it flat on the back of the bag

[topaz siren]

the bottom looks perfect honestly

[undone copper]

Could you humor me regardless?

[topaz siren]

The bottom looks

It's just those HORRIBLE creases 😭

[undone copper]

My guess is that repeatedly creasing in that manner has led to it being more pliable in that direction

[topaz siren]

Even completely empty, it leans so far forward it almost falls over. And it has literally nothing in it

I think I can 3D print a little structure at the bottom to at least help somewhat with the forward lean

I WOULD get the bag of holding, but its just so expensive for what it is. That little thing is half of what I paid for this whole bag 😅

actual physical wear and material wise, this bag is an absolute BEAST. I think it could outlive me. My issue is the frequent falling face down and sinking in makes me not want to continue using it, if that makes sense

You can see how bad the creases are on the inside from that angle as well

I am looking more at the design, and the issue I am having has nothing to do with the panel material. The structural weak spot is below the zipper. I just put a glass dish thats near the perfect size, inside, and now it stands up no problem. It also still opens just as easily and doesn't inhibit the flex of the dome

@undone copper

so if that bottom section was just a little more structured or reinforced (below the zipper where no bending is needed) this issue would be solved

I am probably gonna 3D print an insert that serves a similar function. Thats kinda why I came in here, to see if anybody had made something like that to solve this

You can see how it almost completely gets rid of the crease there, and also helps the bag sit up vertically now

It also allows it to open perfectly fine still

I'm gonna reload everything with this dish inside and see if it can stand up

it stands up perfectly now

[topaz siren]

you have basically no creases

See here. It makes a massive difference

I'm gonna design a 3D print to reinforce the bottom so it doesn't fall over so easily

granted, thats with nothing inside, so its the worst possible case, but even with a decent amount inside, it falls over always

ok. If I make a design that works properly, I will share it in here for anybody that needs it

[undone copper]

this is almost identical to how my bag looks after a year of use

[reef tusk]

Even with all your tea equipment woah

[jade linden]

Im still waiting for my backpack to arrive 😅

[near comet]

They must have chosen walking as the delivery method

[fringe monolith]

Soooo, it's 30th Jan. Truespec cable launch when?

[rocky wolf]

During Wan show hopefully

[fringe monolith]

Damn, so will be whilst I'm asleep. (UK)

[rocky wolf]

Yeah sadly. Im uk as well. Sometimes the links are available at around 12am

[fringe monolith]

I'm just hoping they're not too expensive

[pine bay]

its also possible they'll release it earlier in the day (like 11am their time, but this time isnt based on much) or right before wan show

[rocky wolf]

Isn’t it usually 6pm uk time for shadow drops?

Iirc thats when Black Friday/lime day deals start

[pine bay]

if im doing my conversion correctly, thats 10am their time so would make sense

[peak halo]

With quantities of each SKU in the first batch being “limited” they might prefer to launch later in the afternoon, closer to WAN - guess we’ll see

Or they just prioritise those who signed up for the drop notification email (as well as those who check Whenplane)

[rocky wolf]

I just hope ill be awake for when it launches

Depending on price im planning to buy a few.

[pine bay]

oh that reminds me i should set it to check for new products more today. normally it only checks every 3 hours

[peak halo]

Is it a manual override when you know it’s a “big” Friday or other day of the week tabled for a launch

[stuck torrent]

I foresee some eyeball popping prices akin to the screwdrivers when they first launched. Not inappropriately priced for what they are, but people anchored to dollar store prices (and qualities) might be yelling.

[pine bay]

i just set an extra cron trigger that runs more often during a specific day

[pine bay]

iirc linus said at some point that they will not be cheap

[rocky wolf]

I think that was in one of the amd ultimate tech upgrades

[peak halo]

Cheap, on spec, durable, one of these doesn’t fit the other two

[rocky wolf]

What do you guys think they’ll be priced at?

[peak halo]

Apple pricing, if not more

Smaller batch quantities and all

[rocky wolf]

Im guessing $24.99 for the cheapest one

[hollow spruce]

UM

how is no one here talking abou thte FP exclusive?????????

[undone copper]

which one

[hollow spruce]

Floatplane precision driver

im ngl i saw the title and thought it was a full size driver

oh my god there is floatplane on the case too

[undone copper]

i don’t see it

[hollow spruce]

https://www.floatplane.com/post/VsG01d4fbh

[pine bay]

people talked about it in the floatplane channel when the video was released

[hollow spruce]

fair, but its also merch so

[pine bay]

fair 😄

CABLES ARE HERE

https://www.lttstore.com/collections/ltt-truespec-cables

US
A -> C from $17
C -> C from $22

[pine bay]

yeah looks like the collection isnt on the global store yet, but the cables themselves are

[fringe monolith]

Actually about the price I thought.

[pine bay]

and i just got the email

[hollow spruce]

wait

those are cheap

actually

yeah i'd say so tbh

for what they are anyway

i think its broken

or idk, like every c to c is 29.99 cad for me

[pine bay]

on the us store, most of the c to c cables are $26.99 except for the 480mbps ones that are <5m which are $21.99

[rocky wolf]

Aye decent prices

So many sizes holy

[hollow spruce]

I mean i know that the most of the price is probably the ends but

im surprised

[fringe monolith]

Is it meant to say the wattage next to the speed?

[pine bay]

its not in the metadata for the variants, but it probably should be in there I agree

[rocky wolf]

Says in the description

[pine bay]

are they all 240w then?

[rocky wolf]

Id assume so if it says 40gbps

[pine bay]

not all of them are 40gbps tho

[rocky wolf]

Ltt may have made an oopsie with the clarity

[pine bay]

looks like they added wattage to the title

woah some variants are already sold out on the us store

[stuck torrent]

I don't think I currently need them, but if any applicable cable of mine show even a hint of being flaky these will be my go to for replacements I reckon.

[paper mirage]

I ordered 2 from the Global.. 3m A-C, and 2.5m C-C.. balance of speed and length..

[near comet]

How useful is a 10cm cable even, that's so tiny

[paper mirage]

To someone who wants cable management, very.

Like to an external HDD next to the comp, or otherwise connecting a device that doesn't need range..

[near comet]

I guess so

[paper mirage]

The cable from my monitor to my webcam is one I replaced with a much shorer one..

I mean I'm not paying $30 to do it, but if it was say your MacMini to a USB NVME Drive, then maybe you want a short high speed cable

On my old OG G4/Intel MacMini I had externals using Daisychain FW cables, each cable was not even 10cm, just long enough to go from one drive to another.. so clean.. apart from the 5 power bricks.. but that was another issue 😄

[near comet]

Yeah my desk has a number of cables, but most are for power bricks

[neon coral]

FUCK

Had a truespec cable in my cart and my bank declined the transaction bc it's technically international and now that I've gotten it approved the longer length is out of stock

[rocky wolf]

Damn they’re selling out quick

[neon coral]

Yea

Legitimately before I got the page up, the 1m cable was gone

The 70cm is gone now too.

[paper mirage]

This is what you get for knowing they were gonna drop today and not staying up all day hitting refresh :p

[neon coral]

Fr :/

[near comet]

They all are still in stock on the global store it seems

[pine bay]

times like this make me really miss the days when we could see how much stock was left

[fringe monolith]

I'm waiting on my friend to get back to me to see if he wants to split shipping

[neon coral]

ANOOO

Don't wait

It'll be gone

Unless you're global

[fringe monolith]

Uk

[neon coral]

Then you're probably fine

[near comet]

Idk on the global store all lengths of both cables are still there

[neon coral]

Ahh

Man.

Was gonna be so good for my x-real glasses too

[pine bay]

floatplane video out about the cables

[pine bay]

it looks to be formatted like a normal ltt video (and its not marked as fp exclusive) so i assume it'll be out on youtube shortly

[neon coral]

Lmao we've peaked. Paying for the chance to watch an ad for a product unironically.

XD

Well I was able to get a 1ft cable :/

Mostly useless for my glasses tho :/

[vestal plinth]

https://youtu.be/OT_iyvOy0Tk\

[neon coral]

LMAO I clicked the notification for it so fast it still said it was private XD

[vestal plinth]

i think they double uploaded or something

[neon coral]

Riley's song for the end is so peak

[near comet]

And the one at the start too

[fringe monolith]

Well, 2m and 2.5 c-c are sold out on global, both went out of my cart when I went to checkout

So yep, all c-c cables are 240w capable

[crimson mist]

Welp there goes my pay

Also petition to rename this channel from lttstore-merch to lttstore-products

[fringe monolith]

Yes, checkout chats now, not merch messages

[neon coral]

Yes

[paper mirage]

I wish they did some USB C/A->B cables.. especially long ones, I'd love to replace the one to my monitor, as its streached to the limit lol

[neon coral]

Give them another few years. That's the truespec equivalent of the transparent screwdriver

Same with HDMI/DP

[green holly]

Shiiiit I'm an hour late and they're mostly gone

[crimson mist]

They're gonna make the most popular cables unfortunately the B cables are not as popular!

Thinking of it from a business/manufacturing view

[near comet]

They weren’t lying when they said limited stock

[crimson mist]

Was not waiting for wan show to make a checkout chat, those cables are going FAST

[pine bay]

https://www.lttstore.com/products/floatplane-precision-kit-pro

[neon coral]

WHAT

Omg

Yes

[hollow spruce]

i hjave a couple of 10cm cables because I have a ugreen 200w thing under my monitors with like 8 USB C ports on, I only need super short cables for it

[hollow spruce]

do LTT just hate my wallet or what

or i should say do they love it

[neon coral]

Lol

[rocky wolf]

Now thats actually so cool

[hollow spruce]

I have spent an UNGODLY amountof money in the last 6 weeks but.... fuck

[rocky wolf]

Also cables selling out quick af

[neon coral]

They love your wallet, hate your bills, and wish your paycheck was higher even more than you do

[hollow spruce]

i already have a regular precision driver + kit

[neon coral]

Lowkey wasn't expecting them to drop before wan show

[hollow spruce]

after shipping & tax that floatplane kit to the UK is 116CAD

[neon coral]

OOF

[rocky wolf]

Same here otherwise i would have resubbed to floatplane to buy it 💀

[hollow spruce]

I don't think I can justify it

i'd rather buy an orange prismagic driver

i want that so bad

or do i do both

I really really shouldn't bc im possibly about to buy a house

but

they are pretty

[neon coral]

Lmg's really not doing much to mend that relationship with iFixit with this product XD

[hollow spruce]

prismagic and floatplane precision kit is 225CAD after shipping + tax to UK

[night arch]

wow those cables sold out fast

[neon coral]

1m was gone by the time the site loaded

Deadass

[night arch]

yeah i think i'll wait for the restock

[near comet]

That was my first thought too

[leaden carbon]

I got an out of stock notif on the purchase page so I went back and picked a new length. When I went back to purchase the new one also ran out in the 30s it took

Gonna be funny to see this on WAN launching the product with zero stock

[near comet]

Maybe they held some stock back to release during wan

[leaden carbon]

Possibly.

[night arch]

how much you want to bet they stocked like, thousands of them and sold out in minutes

[lime fossil]

Tens of thousand per sku

[near comet]

Maybe they’ll share how much they stocked during wan

[night arch]

i was surprised at the pricing, very competitive

i was expecting twice that

[neon coral]

I'm surprised the lengths were all similar pricing

[lime fossil]

The 1m 40gbps 240w is likely the coolest

[hollow spruce]

i think the pricing is GREAT

[lime fossil]

Finding the fast data and high wattage is hard

[near comet]

The main cost is likely the connector not the cable

[neon coral]

I've paid more for a 3' 40gbps cable from anker (pre shipping)

[winter frost]

did 10 of the cable options sell out? why are they unavailable?

[night arch]

yeah thats why i am going to wait for restock, i would prefer the length i want

[green holly]

Really hoping the lead times aren’t crazy on these lmao

[leaden carbon]

Lol I had some pretty bad sticker shock at the price, cant imagine double. At least I only needed three

[near comet]

Yes they did

[obtuse moon]

Gonna buy one just for the few games I play that I use a controller

[winter frost]

holy buckets

[night arch]

i think most every sku sold out

[winter frost]

penguin video: but why?

[hollow spruce]

I think im gonna yolo order prismagic orange and floatplane precision

fuck it

might wait for wan show though, i've had like 6 orders in the past but never ever sent a merch message

[stuck torrent]

They love our wallets but wont sell us one. So it goes.

[lime fossil]

Floatplane precision? What's that?

[hollow spruce]

https://global.lttstore.com/products/floatplane-precision-kit-pro

If i buy it i can keep it pristine bc i will just use my regular precision set at work lol

[midnight tendon]

Pretty bad experience as a canadian shopper on lttstore.. You'd think being canadian, linus would have the site set up to work for by default.. Seems they only tested it for americans...
Step 1: Click cables link in "4 years to makes this" video
2. Okay i see the products, it says USD but thats fine ill pay in usd if I have to. No signs of region/currency selector on the screen anywhere, scroll down a while, still nothing. Fine, add to cart lets go.
3. Added, it's just regular shopify stuff, my info pre filled, good. But it says this particular product can't be shipped to canada. like what?
4. Very confused, go back and try the screw driver which im pretty sure canadians have ordered.. Same thing.
5. Tecchy approach: Change lttstore.com to lttstore.ca .. For a second it redirects to some other url, but its so fast it and cant see what it was, before it goes back to lttstore.com as if nothing happened. No change to currency or shipping restriction
6. Look harder in the usual spots .. top right is where most sites put it, like aliexpres which the channel has many videos on, and imo has the best experience for switching currency/region.. Not there but there's a login, so i figure i can enter my canadian address tehre and it would set me up right... Well floatplane login, very weird. and shopify (Which is a bit confusing ,because i have a "Shop" account, not a shopify one, shopify accounts would only be for merchants, but i click it anyways and it easily lets me log in put in the address.

7. Canadian address saved in there and i click shop and it links me to:
8. https://www.lttstore.com/?country=US&shop_sign_in=true
9. Great jorb.. Even harder trying to make me american or believe you only serve american customers.
10. Now what??? By this point most users would have given up im sure. But eh im a computer engineer, surely there's a way!
11. Scroll down further, paste many advertisements and junk.. Then finally there it is, super hidden bottom left region selectors. geez. its like they want non americans so to give up.
12. Still broken: screenshot:

[near comet]

You need to go to global.lttstore.com

[lime fossil]

Thanks might have to snag a few

[midnight tendon]

yea i figured it out and got hte order in .. Just posting feedback how awful the process was

even after reaching global.lttstore.com, it than pops up a warning im on teh wrong site.. literally the message that should be on the regular lttstore.com that would help avoi this lol

[near comet]

The region select is at the bottom of the page

[green holly]

The auto detection probably thinks you’re in the US for some reason

[midnight tendon]

yea very bad placement

im fine being auto detected as an american. Just should be a less painful process to switch it

not that they have any reason to . My IP detects as canadian just fine everywhere the last cpl years

[green holly]

Icons at the top/in the hamburger menu might be nice

[hollow spruce]

personally id be pretty offended at being called an american but

[midnight tendon]

well having that warning message not be bugged and displaying on the wrong site would be the easiest fix. Hopefully that one doesnt take 4 years too lol

and yea the region seletor belong at the top, not burried under a bunch of slow-load adverts

[winter frost]

when did LLT merch become Hotter than Pokémon Center exclusives?

[lime fossil]

Offended for being called amazing? That's weird. Some folks are shy I guess

(Please note I am making a joke. It's mandatory to make jokes these days as things are so wild, we all need to get laughs where we can)

[open vapor]

the cables sold out (in the sizes I want) fast!

[near comet]

Yeah that’s a weird break in the detection. It prompts me to change region when I go to the non global store

[midnight tendon]

personally i get why they block canadian customers from the usa site, but id rather just being able to buy from it. Avoid some taxes heh (if its under $200, cusma imports are cheaper than paying canadian taxes)

[molten prawn]

Anyone know if they're willing to combine pending orders to save having to ship twice if you contact them? I just put in an order for a tshirt yesterday, but I won't bother support if it's a waste of time.

[near comet]

Well different warehouses fulfill American vs global orders

[molten prawn]

Linus said on WAN they were doing a smaller initial launch of cables and would restock at some point.

[near comet]

Generally during these busy shipping periods they don’t tend to do it even if you ask from what I’ve heard and even normally they don’t either

[leaden carbon]

Historically they have declined to merge shipping costs, especially during sales. The price apparently helps offset losses

[midnight tendon]

yea no idea how they are detecting it. IP is the norm, but i dont they are using that. You can check someones browser region, but thats also unreliable especially for gamers, since anyone wise leave thats to default (US-English).. cuz otherwise it just causes bugs with the stupid french canadian keyboard layout (and nothing else relevant uses that setting anyways)

[leaden carbon]

You might get em in one box, but I wouldnt hold breath on recovering shipping costs

[molten prawn]

No sale, just their dysfunctional product release cycle. But good to know, I won't waste making them read an email.

[near comet]

I haven’t heard of other companies combining shipping either

[hollow spruce]

I dont think they will do that

its just not feasible efficiency wise i assume

[midnight tendon]

would be more effecient for him to get rid of his customer support staff and just use AI/canned responses.. But it exists, so worth a shot id say

[molten prawn]

Depends, some smaller companies do. I'm no expert, maybe it's not a feature of order management systems, but I would think a company like LTT (which as far as I'm aware still uses people to pick items and package orders) would benefit if their system aggregated parallel orders that haven't been picked yet into a single list. Still, not really a complaint, small company logistics are what they are, just wanted to poll the masses before clogging them with another email.

[hollow spruce]

update: wallet sad

[indigo rover]

what is peoples perfect cable length? i typically get the longest cable i can and wrap the extra with a cable tie

[neon nexus]

i like 5 foot or 10 foot

but i got the 14.5 ones instead of 16 foot ones because they are still 21$ instead of 26$

[fringe monolith]

I've had them merge shipping for me a couple years back. I had ordered the screwdriver, then took advantage of a black Friday deal. I contacted support, but said it in a way that to save them sending 2 packages. They refunded me on lot of shipping and bundled it all together. But I did have to place 2 separate orders

[hollow spruce]

if the longest 40gbps cable was still in stock i'd have got one just because but longest was 40cm i think

not intereted in that short 😄

[leaden carbon]

Had to sketch out a lil diagram to be 100% sure I got all the cables I need

[green holly]

Bunch of lengths back in stock (us)!!!

just got my order in for most of what I wanted

@night arch

@leaden carbon

[hollow spruce]

doesn't appear to be the case on global 🙁

[leaden carbon]

I'm happy with the 3 20cms I got, but thank you. Short is probably good for my ingest application anyway

[green holly]

Ah lol, was scrolled way up. I see your diagram now, perfect application.

I probably should've graabbed some short lengths too but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[leaden carbon]

I am curious what the bill of materials looks like for something like this. Is the above market cost mostly validation?

[broken magnet]

Holy crap, the ltt cables are actually like hella cheap imo

[leaden carbon]

That's odd. I saw prices of 26usd

[leaden carbon]

Didn't really have time to check if I was on the us site

[green holly]

US pricing has tariffs built-in, where applicable

[leaden carbon]

Ah, thanks orange man

Still not a bad deal to get guaranteed max performance, at least wrt the cables themselves

[green holly]

Agreed. I set my expectations for pricing a bit higher than what they went with, so I came out pleasantly surprised :P

I was expecting $30-35

[slow pulsar]

are we going to change the name of this chanel now that LTT no longer sells merch

[green holly]

...a valid point

[toxic shadow]

huh?

what do you mean by that

[hollow spruce]

Linus has in the past said they make more than "merch". It's not just a t shirt with an LTT logo on it, etc. They are fully fledged products that they sink a lot of RnD into and are ground up designed by the team usually

He seems to feel quite strongly about it lately lol

so much so, renaming merch messages because it's not merch

ngl, that feels a bit silly but I understand it being more than merch. But that was a harmless term

[toxic shadow]

ah

yeah, I only have the screwdriver and shirts cool to see they make their own blank shirts instead of just printing a design on a basic gildan shirt

[jade linden]

I cant unsee that monitor tilt 😭

[slow pulsar]

omg

my problem with tailored lengths is you are screwed if you change your set up

[paper mirage]

Thats why you buy a bunch, of every length!

[rocky star]

Hi

[paper mirage]

Also lets be honest, most people barely change their setups, even as they upgrade over the years, same general positions for everything.. there are exceptions, like me, who likes change, but for most it'll be fine

[green holly]

I did a desk upgrade more recently than my last PC/tech upgrade

I should really get a new monitor…

[paper mirage]

I hear Plouffe has one of those

[twilit silo]

does the 40gbps cables support pcie tunneling

[slow pulsar]

they are USB and not thunderbolt so probably not

[twilit silo]

usb 4 does

[slow pulsar]

news to me

[paper mirage]

If its part of the USB Spec then from the sounds of it, it should support it.. but best to ask, either via support or get their attention during wanshow..

But as they showed on the video, the USB spec is huge so I have no idea whats in it lol

[twilit silo]

it's an optional part of the usb spec

[elder kite]

Is the floatplane screwdriver really supposed to ship separately

[vague juniper]

Was gonna splurge on cables, a prismagic driver and the floatplane precision kit.

Aaaaaaand everything I wanna get is sold out except the Floatplane precision driver...

I always hit this issue - and I end up buying nothing, because the shipping+import cost for EU shipping makes it too expensive to make multiple orders :/

first world problems.

[elder kite]

I'm curious if floatplane precision would have shipped separately for you

In the US, it says it would ship separately no matter what I do

[vague juniper]

can't say - as the out of stock for all cables (2x3different ones) and purple and turqoise prismagic is out of stock.

that would've been another issue if that happened

[elder kite]

(you could select a random product for test purposes)

Just not finishing the checkout

[vague juniper]

I'll check!

[elder kite]

But either the precision isn't ready to ship yet from US warehouse, or it's shipping from canada

It doesn't tell me which

Otherwise I see no reason it would be a separate shipping item

[vague juniper]

Uhhh no it looks like it'd ship in one order from what I can see.

[elder kite]

The shipping isn't too bad if that's going all the way to Europe

[vague juniper]

There'll be import fees on top of all that too

[elder kite]

For me, I then assume the floatplane driver is shipping from canada 🤔

[vague juniper]

Just makes it unfeasible for me to pay that kind of shipping+taxes+import fees

twice.

if I were to only get the floatplane precision

which is all they have in stock of what I wanted

[elder kite]

I already missed most of the cables I wanted to I think I'm just getting floatplane driver since it ships as its own thing

Hopefully regular transparent continues to be stocked by the time more cable stock is available

[vague juniper]

well with sub $10 shipping I'd do it too

[elder kite]

It is done

I don't need a transparent driver

I already have an orange/black one

[vague juniper]

I don't have one. Have been holding out for the Purple one mainly all this time

[elder kite]

And I realistically don't need cables at this time

[vague juniper]

and when I knew cables were coming soon tm, I held off a little more - to save a bit on shipping

now I get none of it xD

I am just that unlucky with these things,

but it's a first world problem at the end of the day.

[near comet]

Channel name change 👀

I think

[fringe monolith]

Damn, that was a quick turnaround.

[tall birch]

Ah man the floatplane precision kit looks dope. But I like my numbered precision driver from the pop up launch more, heheheheh

[fringe monolith]

Yes, I know it probably won't get shipped for another couple days, but damn, CW is on it

[fringe monolith]

I wish I lived in Canada for moments like this

[paper mirage]

My order just shipped too \o/

[proper shell]

So what exactly is different about the Floatplane driver from the normal precision driver?

[paper mirage]

Colour

epeen

Makes you 0.07% more attractive

[proper shell]

You've piqued my interest, but not enough to justify the purchase since I already have the precision driver and kit (which I have used a grand total of 0 1 time)

[valid crane]

God dude, they sold out of all the good cables already

That was lightning fast it feels like.

[indigo rover]

looks like they did it in waves cause they sold out then came back in stock

[valid crane]

Hmm what do you mean?

How many “waves” happened

[indigo rover]

when they launched earlier today they were all in stock then sold out then hours later were back in stock

from what i saw 2

ive been refreshing the page since launch

[valid crane]

I wish they sent out text notifications instead of email

When it restocked

[green oak]

Texting can cost money etc.

[dim zenith]

You mean in BC

You say that till you see the prices

[paper mirage]

BC is very affordable, as long as you live where the people aren't 😐

[left quest]

Are the 20 Gbps and 40 Gbps USB-C to USB-C cables that LTT sells compatible with Thunderbolt 4 / USB 4 speeds?

I have a Thunderbolt 5 eGPU dock and another multi-port USB 4 / Thunderbolt 4 dock and would like to have extra cables on hand for them. Would LTT's cables work with them?

[vague juniper]

Think they've said they only promise the speeds and charging capacity but not gonna swear by that.

[left quest]

Linus did mention the USB4 spec in his video so I was wondering if it would be compatible, and also if it might be backwards compatible with Thunderbolt 3 too

[vague juniper]

directly from WAN

[left quest]

huh interesting, since C-C passive cables that report USB 3.0 speeds on PD 3.0+ should be able to handle Thunderbolt speeds on USB4 hosts. But may not be backwards compatible without the Intel alt mode on Thunderbolt hosts

[elder kite]

Can they update the store page with actual specs 🥺

[paper mirage]

I assume the only specs they promise are the speed and power delivery..

Everything else is "should" or "mileage may vary" ..

[elder kite]

Does DP alt mode capable mean "it will work" or "your mileage may vary" 🤔

[paper mirage]

I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt, but my understanding is that as long as its a USB3 speed cable, and the ports support DP Alt mode, then the cable doesn't matter.. Its not something special that needs to be done to the cable itself..

So the 480mbps cables would be a nogo, but the 40/20gbps should..

[stuck torrent]

My knowledge of what is based on the physical cable, what is based on the physical ports, and what is based on what is digitally being asked for/sent has never been super clear to me. "Optional" specs make everything crazy. I hope theres a timeline where we end up with USB 5 or something, which is just called "USB 5" and it does everything without any optional maybes, but I suppose that might be asking for too much.

[paper mirage]

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[stuck torrent]

Yeaaahhhh, its a hard problem. But we're currently in a mess where like 5 of the competing standards have the same name >.<

[paper mirage]

Linus talked about not getting the cables USB certified because it seems all it does is let them use their confusing branding in the cable video..

[proven island]

I wonder if the cables will be dust-magnets. Anytime I deal with silicone, they end up dusty and kind of annoying to clean

[paper mirage]

Life hack, buy LTT Cables, hang them around your house, never dust again..

[nimble pewter]

I hope they restock fast, I was too slow to get a new C to A cable for my car

Also fuck you Sony for still using USB A on your head units

[paper mirage]

Linus said on WANShow, aiming for March.. they have the cable already which saves them from it being June..

[nimble pewter]

I hope I don't throw this cable out the window in frustration before then

[paper mirage]

Just order a bunch of small cables and some A-A or C-C female adaptors to chain them together..

[undone copper]

DP Alt mode means it works

[left quest]

I'm familiar with the USB PD spec. That's only true if the cable supports PD 3.0

otherwise it has to expose the DP and TBT alt modes if it's PD 2.0

** actually this is for Thunderbolt Alt mode / USB 4 data ^^

for DP, passive USB 3 cable works fine as well even if PD 2.0

[gaunt crow]

just ordered very excited

my carplay cables have been failing after like a month for like forever no matter what cable i buy

so hopefully this doesn’t

[hollow spruce]

What ass cables were you buying before???

[hollow spruce]

Fuucckk I forgot to order pozidriv bits AGAIN

[narrow aurora]

I would kill for a 40gbps/240w that has a built-in monitor

Guess I could just use a monitor+cable, still would rule out the cable but not sure if any monitor also meets spec

[fringe monolith]

Wait, I just realised, when I ordered the cables last night, I wasn't prompted to add anything from the bonus bin? Has that finished now?

[nimble pewter]

The bonus bin doesn't always have items in it

[low reef]

Close Enough? picture taken on a desk not on a floor

[delicate kite]

I always see Linus kinda talk shit about how USB has optional standards that no one follows...

But he didn't actually disclose if the new cables have all of those optional standards?

How can we check to see if these new cables include all the optional stuff

[hollow spruce]

What kind of stuff are you wondering?
They purposely didn't pay for USB certification because its so vague, costs money and difficult to understand

[hollow spruce]

sheesh i ordered exactly an hour after you and i still got nothing

(which is fine!!)

my last order was done about the same timeframe though as yours was

[lunar compass]

Bonus bin was discontinued (for now) because of tariffs.

[delicate kite]

All that stuff

Do these cables have all of those

[hollow spruce]

this is the only extra info we have

[delicate kite]

This screenshot is from an ltt video where Linus is complaining about USB 4, so I would imagine they would add all that stuff to the cables

[hollow spruce]

I get what you're saying but Linus isn't advertising these as a USB 4 cable

they are 40gbps, 240w cables. The extra stuff (dp alt mode, thunderbolt) is not certified, but Tynan states should work

I think like half his reason for not making these "USB 4" is because the standard is such a mess

also unless im mistaken that screenshot is about device capability, not cable

[delicate kite]

I mean I understand not wanting to pay for the certifications, that was what he was saying. You're basically just paying for a poorly named logo

I just want to make sure that outside of getting certified, it still has full capability

[lime fossil]

Surprised there's still no JIS bits offered to go with either screwdriver

But we get PZ? What? How does that make any sense

[viscid shell]

Those standards are things the device manufacturer decides if the device supports. So long as the cable used is capable of the rated speeds and power delivery specs, it's up to the devices to support things like DP Alt Mode.

We recently switched to Dell monitors that have USB-C docks with Ethernet built-in. We've already had people who've found a way to break the plugs off the ends so I acquired some affordable USB-C cables that don't list anything beyond speed and PD spec. They work just fine with our Thunderbolt capable laptops and older DP Alt Mode laptops. 🤷

[viscid shell]

Perhaps... Pozidriv is more common than JIS? At least, I've seen Pozidriv in the wild more than JIS so... My biggest problem is I can't find anyone who makes short versions of 1/4 inch bits except LTT. I'd love to buy a full bitset but only if they're short bits that fit in the handle.

[undone copper]

JIS is almost entirely a japan exclusive afaik

[lime fossil]

But electronics there's o many Japanese made/designed electronics which is where you see JIS

PZ? You see it in.... Uhhh ikea stuff?

Cant recall seeing it anywhere else (other than EU designed junk work related, which I doubt many folks here encounter)

[hollow spruce]

PZ are quite common in EU

[small narwhal]

Where the fuck are my cables

[undone copper]

sold out

[small narwhal]

G'damn

Ad was out for only a day

Really struggling with the LTT store recently
All the good stuff sells out way too fast
I can't afford to keep doing separate orders for individual items so I just don't end up buying anything at all
I really wanted the floatplane screwdriver but there's nothing else to ship it with - everything is just sold out constantly
Would love to get it with a floatplane hoodie, some cables, the gold pin, super soft hoodie, wan hoodie v3 but they're all sold out
I don't think I've ever seen any of those items in stock together at the same time

[stuck torrent]

I was thinking that the inconsistent stock availability is probably having some unfortunate side effect on their metrics. I'd love to buy the cat/gamer underwear for example, but I havent done so despite it being in stock in my size, but I haven't done so because I also want to get coloured blank tees in my size which are out of stock. It'd suck if theres a lot of people in a similar boat and the business people conclude "yeah the cat underwear was a flop" or something.

[paper mirage]

US Store started to sell out in minutes.. Linus said they really underestimated demand.. but they have more wire, so restock should be in March..

For a new product catagory they didn't want to get loads of stock at the start and find there wasn't demand..

[undone copper]

the demand is really high, so it's almost impossible to keep up

[nimble pewter]

Cables aren't what decide the compatibility of these things

You just need a good cable

[pine bay]

Yeah it’s odd that they completely removed them

They weren’t even completely sold out I’m pretty sure

[tawdry condor]

Thought I was having a glitch when I opened the website, do we have any idea why?

[pine bay]

I don’t

[nimble pewter]

Guessing some issue came up that'll be fixed when they're back in office on monday

[faint star]

found the quote from the USB-C spec (appendix F.2.4) that explains thunderbolt behavior for cables that don't have a Thunderbolt VID from Intel. Modern thunderbolt devices are supposed to work in proper thunderbolt mode for a passive USB4 gen 2 (20Gbps) and USB 4 gen3 (40Gbps) cable. They just aren't allowed to claim "“Compatible with Thunderbolt™” without a Thunderbolt VID (USB4™ Thunderbolt3™ Compatibility Requirements Specification section 6).

If the Intel/TBT3 SVID of 0x8087 is not returned in response to the Discover SVID command, the cable is a
Non-TBT3 cable.

If a Non-TBT3 cable’s Product Type is Active Cable, it shall be regarded as not compatible with TBT3, and
TBT3 Discovery shall exit.

If a Non-TBT3 cable’s Product Type is Passive Cable, the USB Highest Speed field in the cable’s Passive Cable
VDO shall determine TBT3 functionality and speed. If USB Highest speed is “USB4 Gen3” or higher, the cable
shall be regarded as a TBT3 capable cable at Gen3 performance. If USB Highest speed is “USB 3.2 Gen1” or
“USB 3.2/USB4 Gen2”, it shall be regarded as a TBT3 capable cable limited to passive Gen2 performance. If
USB Highest Speed indicates “USB 2.0-only, No SuperSpeed”, TBT3 Discovery shall exit.

Note: Legacy TBT3 platforms may not recognize USB4 Gen3 or higher passive cables that don’t also include
the TBT3 Passive Cable Discover Identity VDOs. When this happens, the USB4 Gen3 or higher passive cable
will still function but will only be used at Gen2 speeds.

Ofc as always, words in the spec are one thing and reality can be another. ymmv

[robust kestrel]

personally im just waiting for some in depth 3rd party tests of the cables to come out on some other youtuber's channel that goes over everything and really tests to see whats possible and whats not. i mean i feel like there has to be someone who will do it

[paper mirage]

I donno of anyone that does dives into Cables.. I think we'll get more subjective reviews based on people using them with devices known to work, and seeing if the cables do-don't..

But since most USB and TB specs work around "if the cable is good enough" I expect anything not needing a TB Chip to work..

[robust kestrel]

im just waiting to see pcie tunneling for egpus and such working with my own two eyes

[paper mirage]

And thats wise.. I might have ordered mine day one, but I'd never suggest anyone else buy something on launch day with no reviews or or testing..

[robust kestrel]

yeahh, i mean, shit. for the price, even for just 40gbps and 240w pd, a cable that long is pretty damn good. but i got 240w pd cables and cables for 40gps that are short. a long one would just be convenient

[paper mirage]

Thats what I got, 3m USB A-C, 2.5m C-C.. the balance of length and speed.. and from there I'll decide if I want more down the road..

[faint star]

In theory, thunderbolt devices could have their firmware updated to no longer require the TBT3 VDOs from the cable's emark IC, but that relies on a vendor maintaining a product lol

[devout hatch]

Yeah, I was so sad that I couldn't get any.

I was going to purchase like 10.

Well labeled and good quality cables are hard to come across.

[paper mirage]

It sucks, but I 100% get why Linus didn't order more.. a wrong decision could have ended up with them having stock for years.. But at least they were smart and are ready to "quickly" build more..

[jade linden]

I think they really thought they were going to be a niche product because it was ""expensive"" and maybe they also thought no one cared about good cables

[paper mirage]

Yep and thats why Linus was cautious.. cause it very easily could have gone that way..

[hallow chasm]

Maybe the prices were wrong that's why it gone from store?
Otherwise idk why anyone would call them expensive or why they are gone from the store

[paper mirage]

They are gone from the store cause they are sold out I assume

They were almost sold out of all lengths by WANShow.. all that was left at the start of WAN was the 2 longest and 2 shortest

[hallow chasm]

I still don't see why it would vanish from the store completely

[paper mirage]

Maybe someone found a way to trick it into letting them place an order for soldout sku's or something?

But the prices weren't wrong, linus went over them on wan.. even if one sku got the wrong price both prices were very close..

[hallow chasm]

Hmm okay weird

[jade linden]

Because they seemed like great value

[hallow chasm]

Well I will just have to wait

[paper mirage]

I think the diff was like $5 between the ones that just did USB2 speed vs Highspeeds..

Cause there was no diff in price based on length

[hallow chasm]

Yeah it was and the 5m was also the higher price

[paper mirage]

Didn't see that, but that was a USB2 speed if memory serves and I only looked at the higher speed ones.. I orderd 2.5m c-c and 3m a-c..

[hallow chasm]

Yeah the 480mbps 5m was higher price than 4.5m etc

Somehow they always come up with products I am looking for but don't expect at all

[paper mirage]

I hope they do extension cables in the future too.. cause for some reason almost every USBHub doesn't just put a USBC in port 😐 I know why they didn't initially, theres no actual standard for them and such.. but I think having a female end sku would be nice, especially for some of my cases..

[hallow chasm]

I still can't believe how not expensive they were

I got a really fancy expensive usb hyb that is externally powered with usb c ports but it was way overkill money for it

[vestal plinth]

yeah, anyone who complains about the price

obviously knows nothing about cables

these cables are actually fairly priced

hell, they're cheaper than some anker and ugreen stuff

[paper mirage]

Sort ones were pricy, but the medium-long was much more affordable vs other offerings.. since despite length not being a major factor in cost, other companies charge more due to perceived value (and to make up for selling short ones cheap)..

And the long high speed ones are flat out great value

[vestal plinth]

i think in ugreens case, they also make niche cables, i.e display port to hdmi, and other stuff like that, they take lower margins on those, and higher margins to c-c cables, since c-c cables are generally easier to sell

[hallow chasm]

I'm just excited to replace my car cable that I slammed into my door 8 times but still somehow it works fine charging

[paper mirage]

Why even have one long enough to reach the door? :p

[hallow chasm]

Can't believe it took me 8 attempts to close the door before realising the massacre I created

[vestal plinth]

lol, yeah, i was gonna say, a 1 meter cable is enough for a car

[hallow chasm]

Idk it came with my car adapter lol

[paper mirage]

I just picture him plugging in an electirc car to a USB charger..

[hallow chasm]

HAHA

[viscid shell]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1qssfli/ltt_truespec_cables_delisted_from_the_store/

[hallow chasm]

Ah okay so it was this then, but it wasn't a trick just an issue so that means it was probably all out of stock when I was looking anyway

[hollow spruce]

a few people in the replies are reporting similar issues on their own shopify instances, so its not specific to LTT

[viscid shell]

This. And looking through /r/Shopify and /r/ShopifyDev ... It smells like Shopify made some kind of change to an API that didn't go smoothly for people. But that's just my observation; the API changes could be completely unrelated to the inventory issues.

[hollow spruce]

either way, they clearly fucked something up 😄

[vestal plinth]

https://youtu.be/_2bRZEk6nzU

[fallen zodiac]

hmmm, dumbo here whats wrong with taking backorders on potentially successful product? some legal concern or is it because with such amounts it cannot be guaranteed by the March/etc times mentioned in the past?

[hollow spruce]

are you talking about cables here? the issue wasn't that it was a back order, its that the store was showing them as in stock

[stuck torrent]

Linus is broadly uncomfortable taking your money when either you don't know with confidence what you're buying (new product lines), or he doesn't know with high confidence that the supply timelines will be what they say. The latter has historically been rather difficult. (He made some comments on it rather recently on reddit if you care to dig into his exact wording.)

[paper mirage]

Backorders lead to a lot of extra work as people cancel them or keep contacting support over why X hasn't shipped yet because people don't read and/or are impatient..

So Linus would just rather wait till they have stock to sell stock.. even if personally I'd be fine doing backorder/preorder/etc

[fallen zodiac]

interesting because it would effectively create artificial scarcity as you can't predict how many will sell when stock appears, so you would by default manufacture less of them, and then cycle infinitely repeats

[paper mirage]

Smaller runs probably have a higher cost per-product than larger runs.. so they are probably doing small runs, get an idea, then scaling up to as large as they think they will need for some timeframe (like a year)..

[stuck torrent]

I'm pretty sure the business team is very pro preorders since it can be great for stuff like that, but Linus is pretty commited to his stance and he's the final say. He's wiggled a bit on established product categories (i.e. shirts), but for new stuff like the cables its a calculated dice roll on how much to stock and whats skus specifically.

[nimble pewter]

They have only taken backorders in the past when the product is ready but they don't have it in their warehouse yet

Shirts is a different story since they've already got the blanks and they're printed locally

What they've done with the cables makes sense, they've got the rolls of cable and all the ends ready, they're just not fully certain of what lengths people want more so they haven't committed to making all of them

[paper mirage]

Also backorders just add overhead.. which is something I think LMG struggles with as it is..

Especially in cases like this where while Linus has an idea when more will be ready, there is no set date, and its not all up to him as there are 3rd parties involved, like the one that does the testing for the higher speeds..

[livid talon]

Quick one, where did the magnetic cable management and new cables go from the store?

[viscid shell]

... #lttstore message

[livid talon]

Can you give a tldr please, in work and Reddit is blocked on the network

[stuck torrent]

they're out of stock and shopify was having issues allowing people to place orders for out of stock things, so they removed them from the store for now

[livid talon]

Ahh ok thanks, what about the magnet cable management?

[stuck torrent]

It's still there and mostly in stock on global site at least.

[livid talon]

Cheers found them

[stuck lily]

Not able to access the new cables

wondering what lengths the cables will be offered

[paper mirage]

Here is part of a list.. looks like the USB A-C one, but C-C is very similar but with better speeds at the shorter lengths..

But ya lots of options.. so if you are looking to build around a specific setup thats available 🙂

[subtle folio]

Side bar

Has anyone else had issues with the transparent screw driver and the racheting system locking up when trying to use it?

[undone copper]

YES!

Someone else with this issue!

I have a standard black driver, and a transparent one, never had an issue with the black one, but it's a problem fairly often with the transparent one

[subtle folio]

Ok so I'm not going crazy and I'm not trying to be that person just feeling out for different stories

I have my black shaft screwdriver and it sounds different compared to the transparent one

[undone copper]

Genuinely how i felt about it

I'd like to know what the result is if you'd be so kind

likely the number of pictures

[subtle folio]

And it got taken down again

[paper mirage]

Weird I've seen people post pics here before

[subtle folio]

I'ma try only then I guess?

Wasn't trying to break any rules but ok

[subtle folio]

I'll keep you updated and see what happens

It was locking up hard till I had to shift it to the other direction

[maiden sapphire]

Mine does that too

[subtle folio]

The black shaft screwdriver sounds more subtle sounding

[paper mirage]

For what its worth my transparent screwdriver has been as flawless as my solid colour one..

[subtle folio]

Worth more than you think imo

Thank you 🙂

I've been wanting an LTT screwdriver since the release and saw the ProjectFarms review and head to head match ups on the LTT mega pro drivers when he drop that video I know I'm fairly new to the server but I've been following Linus for a few years now

[paper mirage]

They are quality screwdrivers.. the worth is subjectable of course, not everyone needs an expensive screwdriver, but they aren't $5 chinese ones with a LTT Logo glued on either :p

[subtle folio]

That's fair lol Ive munched through screw drivers and wanted a decent driver for a change now I could afford it

[paper mirage]

I suggested a bunch of people get them when they had the mystery driver deals clearing out the noctua and retro stock.. at those prices it was a no-brainer for someone needed a reliable driver.

Ya my view was I spend once and never again.

(hopefully)

[subtle folio]

I got my little brother a OG bookbag from LTT and it's best quality bookbag I've seen

[paper mirage]

I use the Commuter Backpack daily, its been fantastic.. Nothing I've got from LTT has been a letdown quality wise.

[subtle folio]

I might've received a faulty unit cause I wasn't using it for anything out of the normal and I wanted to send a few photos of the recent pictures but the bot is saying I keep sending too many photos it can result in a ban so I mean

It's all good

The black shaft racheting system is definitely quieter in comparison

[pine bay]

they removed them from the store because apparently shopify was letting people place orders for them even if they didnt have stock available.
You can view them on the whenplane (unofficial) archive though, if you're just wanting to see what lengths were available (and some of which will probably be available again once the shopify issue is fixed).
If you expand the "Product Metadata" dropdown, then look in the "Options" section, it lists the kinds that were available
https://whenplane.com/lttstore/products/ltt-truespec-cable-usb-type-c-to-c (c to c)
https://whenplane.com/lttstore/products/ltt-truespec-cable-usb-type-a-to-c (a to c)

[hollow spruce]

def seen a few people have this

reach out to support

[green holly]

You're seeing that message because you don't have a role. If you grab a role via the instructions in #welcome, you'll be able to post more photos at a time. That limit is there because of the recent volume of bot spam, and is automatic -- it isn't considered an "infraction," so no need to worry about a ban or anything. I know the wording is kinda scary :P

[digital ravine]

my noctua driver had the same issue and support gave me a free replacement black/orange driver, i'd imagine they got you in this case

[smoky scarab]

Does anyone know if https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/fidlock-magnetic-sternum-strap/ will work with the ltt backpack? It looks basically identical to the one they used to sell on the site but I was wondering if anyone had some insight?

[hollow spruce]

hoping my orange prismagic doesnt have that ratchet issue 😄

[subtle folio]

I just logged into LTT forum and it turns out my account has been active since 2022 lol I gotta figure out how to link them now

Thank you for that btw

[green holly]

NP

You can link 'em here: https://linustechtips.com/settings/login/?service=14

[subtle folio]

Sweet lol I'm green now

I couldn't remember if I had an account then I logged in using google

[subtle folio]

Right rules sorry for the ping

[subtle folio]

They couldn't replace it with the same noctua screw driver I'm assuming cause the limited drop was finished right?

[digital ravine]

yea, no more stock, but still plenty happy with the normal one, especially cause the noctua was a mystery color purchase and slightly cheaper

it still works has a fixed driver, the ratchet mode just bugs out and slips

[subtle folio]

Ahh I see but you still have the noctua one you probably just don't use it as much

[subtle folio]

That answered that lol

Just testing but here's what my transparent screwdriver looks like

Everything looks normal

[slow pulsar]

i still wish they had a green transparent one

[subtle folio]

Glow in the dark

Even a collab with dbrand for glow circuit style imprint inside the mold of the handle and it actually glowing

That way you could retain the same surface material while having a cool aesthetic of glow circuit

Transparent screw driver with a glow circuit twist

[restive vector]

its also a diff plastic

[subtle folio]

Is there a confirmation of that somewhere I would like to read into it

[green holly]

Transparent

Standard

[subtle folio]

I see the differences and I can see the differences in structural integrity

That's probably why I'm having these issues now

Tritan is a natural clear material that's normally used for water bottles and other products of that nature

But it's a strong material

[green holly]

Yeah it’s what Nalgene uses IIRC

[subtle folio]

Its interesting that they beefed up the delrin on the transparent one

I wonder if the transparent driver can be polished lol

[green holly]

I’ve found that the standard driver gets a sheen as it wears

Haven’t used my transparent enough to know if it wears similarly

[subtle folio]

I was looking at the reddit post of a black shaft being used for 2 years

Definitely has a shine to it lol

Transparent was made to be the work horse I've been wanting the black shaft screwdriver since release so I'ma just cherish it 😆

I'm just hoping that support gets back to me cause it would lock up on me randomly and the selector for the drive looks scratched up bad but it's barely been 2 weeks of getting it and I haven't used it heavily till yesterday

I wish it was the cryoteal I ordered

[subtle folio]

Wait is this material sheet public or just server information

[green holly]

I pulled it from the product listings

Under “product information”

[subtle folio]

Gotcha

Thank you for coming in clutch jawa 🙌

[vague juniper]

probably because the ABS - as it happens the same with ABS keycaps for keyboards.

[green holly]

Makes sense

[oak cairn]

Is the screw driver good?

[tall birch]

I think so.

I've used it more to put together IKEA furniture than building PCs lol

[dim zenith]

I got one coming gonna use it in my trade on the water

see how it holds up

[subtle folio]

It's worth buying

[pine bay]

cables are back

[valid crane]

I see that too, when it says "WE FOUND MORE!' does that mean orders before will ship sooner?

[pallid cosmos]

Yes. Look at project farms review of screwdrivers

[paper mirage]

I know my order from the opening hours are already on the way.. so I assume they were conservative in how many of each they listed as available in the first place.. LMG has a habbit of finding extra stock of their product lol

[valid crane]

interesting mine havent gotten an update email nor a tracking number so I guess I'm waiting till march

[paper mirage]

I should say mine are shipping from-to Canada..

But ya I got the shipping notification Friday Night, and the carrier got it in their hands today.

[smoky scarab]

Does anyone know if https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/fidlock-magnetic-sternum-strap/ will work with the ltt backpack? It looks basically identical to the one they used to sell on the site but I was wondering if anyone had some insight?

[green holly]

Highly recommend grabbing a Pozidriv bit set btw, if you’re using it to assemble IKEA furniture. They use it pretty widely, and you can mostly get by with Phillips but will have a better time with the proper bit.

[orchid depot]

What length to get hmmm

[rocky wolf]

Aint got many choices

[wispy yarrow]

... Do those C-to-C cables have indicator lights on them?

[nimble pewter]

No

That's a hole

And the copper shielding behind it

[wispy yarrow]

Weird that it's on those and yet not the A-to-C ones, even on the C end.

[nimble pewter]

It is though

Look at the actual photos not the render ones

[dusk timber]

is there any information to when we can buy the cables?

[green holly]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1quffbv/update_on_the_truespec_cables_launch/

[peak halo]

Why not lean into the meme by renaming this channel #lttstore-dot-com

[undone copper]

there's a guy in my theater that i harass by constantly telling him "lttstore.com"

[brazen sentinel]

Is a TrueSpec 40Gbps USB-C to C the same as a Thunderbolt 4 cable?

[shut kernel]

no

[subtle folio]

@undone copper support got back to me asking for a video

Finally sat down and made a video fingers crossed

[vague juniper]

if that's of any help. what Tynan said during friday's WAN show.

[brazen sentinel]

That's great. Thanks. Will definitely try one and see.

[faint star]

the only caveat is that old devices from the thunderbolt 3 era that didn't/don't receive firmware updates won't operate at 40Gbps, however they should still function at 20Gbps

[frail wind]

What is this docket

Is this LGA 1700

I have no clue

[brazen sentinel]

I have a dock to which I connect 3 different laptops, one of which is a M4 MBP. Its cable is getting old, and since it's critical for work I absolutely need to have 2 at all times

[faint star]

if it's a thunderbolt 3 dock that was released before thunderbolt 3 was brought into USB4, then check if you can get firmware updates for it. They may have updated it to allow 40Gbps operation without a thunderbolt VID. Originally, thunderbolt 3 only allowed 20Gbps operation when a thunderbolt VID was not present in a passive cable's emark IC.

If it's thunderbolt 4/5, then you're good and none of this matters. Even if it's thunderbolt 3 and never got a firmware update to change the behavior, it'll still work at half bandwidth (20Gbps).

[crisp falcon]

I don't get how their TrueSpec cables are cheaper than some of the Anker ones I bought. Step up Anker.

[devout hatch]

Can anyone that has gotten their cables already and own calipers please measure the thickness of the USB C connecter, I want to see if I want one for my mouse along the rest I'll get later on.

[thorn helm]

What manufacturer did they partner with for the cables ? Can’t seem to find that info anywhere. And yes I watched the announcement video

[nimble pewter]

For reasons obvious to people that know, manufacturers for things are generally not disclosed publicly

[devout hatch]

Has anyone use their commuter backpack as a personal item during a flight btw?

I just realized it is pretty close to the dimensions allowed.

[jovial rose]

So i just purchased this cable for my Wooting 60 v2. And a day later they posted this tweet. I think ill cancel and get the LTT one.

[devout hatch]

[devout hatch]

Reddit confirmed this for me.

[thorn helm]

Just seems odd since they were praising them heavily. Why not give a shoutout?

[nimble pewter]

Because that's not how the world works

[devout hatch]

lol

[nimble pewter]

Ew snake oil cables

[final quest]

nojoke, these are my vr charging station cables I got from AliExpress.

Doesn't mean they're bad (wouldn't have gotten more then), tho 1000% not their own creation.

and to be clear, the first cable like that I got around 6 years ago.

[lime fossil]

Yeah and it's been fine for delta and American for me. The full size bag also has been allowed on delta for me, but I don't trust it, some of the smaller regional jets the full size gets a little tetrissy to fit under the seat.

[jovial rose]

Aesthetic. Its a custom cable for a keyboard. I usually buy Lindy or use stock. But the stock one is very stiff my 80he daughterboard usbc is a bit lose because of it.

[lime fossil]

Commuter I've not had that trouble with, but have stopped bringing it as I use a laptop bag instead which holds my stuff better, namely the need for multiple laptops, while retaining semi convenient access to at least one of them... Which the ltt bags kinda don't do at all

Good luck taking a laptop out on a plane from either ltt bag

[lime fossil]

Because that's a good way to lose a partner

[nimble pewter]

Yeah no I'm not commenting on the looks. The wording they use and the fact that the cables have any issues at all running keyboard or mouse

It's shit covered in glitter

With an absolute shit price

[jovial rose]

Yeah its stupid.

[nimble pewter]

Burn the snake oil salesmen to the ground

[final quest]

I find it funny that I have the same cables in multiple and they talk stuff like "designed to do X blah blah"

they just buy them in bulk themself lmao.

[near comet]

I don't think your cables should be talking :P

[crisp falcon]

Bu-bu-bu-but our HDMI cables are GOLD plated. Pls gib monies

[nimble pewter]

These AliExpress slop resellers probabky don't even know what makes a cable good

[final quest]

that at least has some truth to it.

Gold plates less contact corrosion etc, tho still does dog poo to quality.

[final quest]

to be fair, AliExpress doesn't mean it's crap, they aren't trash for me + it's just a marketplace, so you don't exactly resell off Ali but from the manufacture themself.

What I find funny tho is that I know how cheap I can get them myself compared to how expensive they are in reselling...

[nimble pewter]

You missed the word right after AliExpress there

[final quest]

for 3-4 euros I actually find them shockingly good in quality, metal housing etc.

for charging great, but that's it.

[deft mulch]

Are the true spec C to C cables any good?

[nimble pewter]

are you an LLM trying to get information?

[final quest]

thing is, the cables aren't this bad, they just aren't good either, in this case just extremely overpriced, which is sad.

[nimble pewter]

If they ain't up to spec they're shit

Manufactured waste

[final quest]

for the money I'm unsure on what to expect, for charging I like them a lot ngl

as for spec, Noone even knows what they try to hit, not being advertised as 2.0 even

1.1 they definetly hit no issue

[deft mulch]

Yes

[final quest]

so to that I disagree

[nimble pewter]

Disagree all you want, it's true

[final quest]

they aren't sold as anything highspec, just usb, so for all I know it's 1.1, which works at all, charging works, even qc and that's fine

to the manufacture I don't throw anything, to resellers telling bullcrap I do.

[final quest]

powerloss f. e. is even lower than most other cables I got, hence why I actually do not dislike them

[nimble pewter]

I don't care what they're sold as.
They're out of spec USB cables. They end up in the world, unlabelled and unable to do what you'd expect them to do.

This is the entire reason the truespec cables exist

[final quest]

how do you want to know it's out of spec?

1.1 surely not.

and cause they aren't advertised as anything higher I don't expect them to do anything more.

which is precisely why im quite happy with them, they do what I expect them to, in cheap, better than some others you'd get on Amazon, ngl

what I just find sad tho is those getting reselled as something they just aren't fulfilling, in expensive.

[lunar wigeon]

IMHO I went to global shop can we get lenghts in global units where 99% world uses not the so called "freedom units" where they took them out of ass.

[nimble pewter]

iT's nOt oUt oF sPeC bEcAuSe uSb1.1 eXiStS

Stop it.
It's a USB cable currently being manufacturered. It should be able to meet USB3.0 at least.
It is manufactured waste.

[final quest]

I wanna know any 3.0 cable on cheap, lol.

[nimble pewter]

They're literally in metric

[final quest]

if I just want a cable to charge stuff I'm not planning on spending 10+eur on it.

if I want something to use my external nvme or whatever I get something actually good and no snake oil resold bs.

[lunar wigeon]

well not quite but i have to go in to each one to get metric

[nimble pewter]

[lunar wigeon]

okok now i saw 😄

[final quest]

lmao

[lunar wigeon]

tho brackets seems my eyes follow much more

[final quest]

btw, even truespec cables arent all 3.0+.

[nimble pewter]

In the stupidly long ones.... Where it's basically impossible to do more than 2.0 in a passive cable

[final quest]

personally I'm quite happy that there are cheaper options for things where it just plain doesnt matter. important to me is clear communication on what it is.

[nimble pewter]

Which is entirely acceptable

[final quest]

then don't be like "anything not 3.0+ is manufactured waste".

[nimble pewter]

They're also Clearly labelled

[lunar wigeon]

prices are reasonable, tho out of stock 🙁

[nimble pewter]

Context is important

[final quest]

that's the thing, I expect labeling to be true. When it doesn't promise anything - I don't expect any meaningful performance. And fitting pricing.

which is why I f. e. heavily dislike cables falsely claiming some fictive speed or being a blue housing while performing usb1.1. all while mostly still not being cheap.

[nimble pewter]

Again, that's the problem. you know the price and where you got it. Someone else using it doesn't, and it's not labelled. It has USB C so people will have expectations and will then be disappointed

[final quest]

which imho is the fault of the reseller.

the manufacture doesn't give false promises (tbh no promises to anything other than being usb at all, aka 1.1).

on c to c cables I'd get what you're talking about. on a to c, tbh - I don't.

[nimble pewter]

Also the spec doesn't allow 1.1 on C so yes they're out of spec

[final quest]

I found out they actually did get the manufacture to produce c to c. Didn't actually realize that. Sorry bout that. Yea should fulfill 2.0 at least with being clearly sold as that (not being 3.0+)...

[nimble pewter]

Doesn't matter what end the C is on if it has it at all it has to be 2.0 or higher

[final quest]

usb be like
sike, 1.0 is now 2.0 low speed, 1.1 is 2.0 full-speed and 2.0 is 2.0 high-speed

to be clear I'm not entirely sure if that's actually true and changed like that, but honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it's not just a joke but true... Supposed to have been in 2003.

Holy crap they seem to actually have done that. Which explains why in type c theyre just talking about 2.0.

jup, the older speed classes are legit part of 2.0 now. You simply cannot make the random crap usb does up.

that usb 2.0 now can be applied to anything that's 1,5mbit/s all the way up to 480mbit/s is just comical.

and that's also why my 2.0 usb isolator doesn't work with 480mbit/s. And not even lying with the spec... lol

[smoky elk]

USB C is just a connector.
It can be any spec inside the wire.

USB 2 is very common in "high power" cables, since you can have fewer, but thicker, wires to support 100W of charging or whatever.

To get a high wattage (100W+), high-speed usb 3 cable? (IE: 20+ gb/s) you're going to pay a very significant premium

For some work setups, I went out of my way to buy a few: USB C to Mini USB B cables

because the device used Mini, and the new laptop had a line of USB C plugs

[jade linden]

After 70 days of waiting 😭

Not their fault I guess

[hollow spruce]

ngl im surprised you didnt come to that conclusion already 😄

[jade linden]

For south america thats normal shipping times lol

My max wait for an item in-stock was 5 months for a book

[paper mirage]

5months? Did they have to plant the tree first, before getting the paper?

[green oak]

what is even going on? i saw steve belching out more nonsense on mute.

[paper mirage]

?

[green oak]

gamers nexus

was it to do with the cables?

[paper mirage]

I'm not aware of any new drama..

But I don't watch GN anymore.. not just cause of his LTT stuff, but I got tired of his general rants and such..

[green oak]

i unfollowed a twitch streamer because they had steve on blast for an hour, saw something about cables wasnt sure what was going on

yeah

this twitch streamer is not a tech space person, so they had no idea what the actual context was, so yeah nope

i want 2 smol cables for my mac mini. thanks much

[paper mirage]

I miss his reviews but I clocked out after a few times where mid review hed stop and go on some rant about a specific way the marketing phrased something and the like.. Like, I get it, it might not be accurate, I don't need 10min on it..

[green oak]

mhm

[paper mirage]

I got my cables on the way, I expect to be happy, and expect to buy more down the road..

[green oak]

i wish i could get the grass skin from dbrand for said mac mini, but its only like handheld stuff it seems

[paper mirage]

I love my MacMini.. great value..

[green oak]

yes. was like $350 certified. last gen intel

[paper mirage]

Ahh I got the M4..

[green oak]

anyways, glad there wasnt a steve rant about the cables.

[paper mirage]

There might be, but if hes gonna rant he sould wait till people have them in hand :p

[green oak]

nice. i needed the expanable ram - upped it from 2x4gig to 2x16 gig before the ai scam bubble of course.

sigh

[paper mirage]

But I'd rather he not.. both Linus and Steve need to forget the other exists..

[green oak]

agree

linus has that adhd/on the spectrum personality which can get hyperfocused & sometimes he looses sight of things, but this not the channe lfor that. gonna go see what the situ is for US cable availability

[paper mirage]

Probably not much.. but restock in March hopefully(tm)

But the sort lenghs were low demand so they might still be available.. I ordered mine from Global 10-15min after Launch and only just got my stuff in before they were sold out 😄

[jade linden]

I think for me it was the constant negativity. I mean, I appreciate the work GN does, exposing bad behaviour and stuff, but you really get tired of it

[thorn helm]

Invite him on the wan show to hash it out in person like adults. They’re so transparent, right ?

[paper mirage]

I don't think that would be a good idea for either of them.

[smoky elk]

Exposing bad behavior is good.

But Steve goes on vendettas and loses any form of objectivity.

[smoky elk]

Dear God no. Let's not and say we didn't.

[smoky elk]

Linus I think wants to never acknowledge Steve again. But I don't think Steve will ever let it go.

[paper mirage]

Every few months Linus will make a thinly veiled common on WAN.. so while he might know better, both live rent free in eachothers minds..

[daring jackal]

my cable is now delayed till mid april :\

[paper mirage]

Was it ordered later in the day? Probably one of the victims of Shopify making up their own quantity..

[daring jackal]

yeah

$10 gift card for future orders tho so i guess thats neat

[paper mirage]

It sucks, but congrats on forcing Linus to do a preorder!

[daring jackal]

lol

[marsh bramble]

Just got my gift card. Just wow. Wish more merchants were this good. First the carabiners for my ltt backpack and now this. 👍

[crisp falcon]

I have been using an LTT Threadripper pillow as my main pillow for a year and a half or so now. I fucking love this thing. I'm so glad I have another thread ripper pillow and an intel one still in the box. I'm so sad they got rid of them. 10/10 pillows. I have MANGLED the stuffing in this pillow into all sorts of interesting shapes, still great.

[crisp falcon]

Funny thing about their giftcards is LTT doesn't even see any of the money until you actually buy something with it.

It's their shopping platform (Shopify or whatever)

[jade linden]

Because of mentioning the carabiners, I would think they received a gift card for free (probably because of the recent cable purchase error?), instead of buying it for no particular reason

But yes what you said is still true
-# I think I heard it on WAN

[vestal plinth]

https://youtu.be/eZg1_7wvsF4

[crisp falcon]

Yeah somebody asked it on WAN once. Technically they don't see the money until you actually buy something. Instead Shopify or whoever has it. We're all giving Shopify interest free loans, lmao

[jade linden]

Also im very sad because they didnt have in stock one of the items I bought :/

So they cant replace it 😭

[green oak]

So.. what exactly is going on with the cables?

I wanted two of the shortest A to C

[viscid shell]

There's a pinned message in this channel with a link to the subreddit where they explain.

TL;DR: there was a Shopify inventory "thingy" but also... people bought the cables REALLY fast.

[green oak]

Hmm on mobile i don’t see pinned stuff 👀

[viscid shell]

Yeah you have to dig for it. Discord is silly like that on mobile.

Here we go - quick link to the message with the reddit link: #lttstore message

[green oak]

Oh, I don’t use that site but I’m glad I’m able to read it anyway

I was about to send a link to my partner for something she can get me for Valentine’s Day & the store page was 404’d

If I’m able to get the external drive enclosure that I want. I will probably get a C to C cable also.

That probably has to wait for a bit though cause I just bought a monitor

[nimble pewter]

Gonna be a little while before the restock so just send her the gift card page

[pine bay]

huh yeah i didnt know that but i searched it up and sure enough they said that in 2022
https://whenplane.com/history/show/2022/04/15/transcript?find=do not show up on my sale report in the Shopify dashboard does that mean Shopify holds the gift card money or do they send it to us uh I believe that they hold it until it's used okay so then#match

[green holly]

I don’t believe Linus was correct about that

[pine bay]

nick said that, not linus

[green holly]

Regardless, it isn't accurate :P

Businesses wouldn't let that fly.. it'd be disastrous for cashflow

[pine bay]

i'd assume shopify has public documentation on this somewhere, i just cant search for it rn

[stuck torrent]

https://community.shopify.com/t/does-gift-card-purchase-revenue-get-deposited-immediately/260225 this seems to cover it. Linus(/Nick?) probably looking at the daily sales number and not realising that the money does show up despite not being considered revenue.

[subtle folio]

Heyo

Out of curiosity does anyone know what's in the line up for the mystery screwdriver rotation?

[unkempt seal]

a while back it was mostly noctua. but no idea now. usually mystery is a mixture of stuff we can’t get rid of or we have too much of or to little of.

[subtle folio]

Noctua would be cool but what are the chances of a prismagic one probably slim to none right

I wouldn't be opposed to a custom color one I wish I could get a purple/green one

Sorry for the ping

[unkempt seal]

yeah i highly doubt that they will put a new release in a mystery bin. but you never know.

no worries

[subtle folio]

Do you have a ballpark of what's left? Cause I highly doubt for a noctua one

[slender atlas]

Well there aren't any available on the global store, but it's probably the special colourways they did (green, pink, yellow etc) that are in there now. Pretty sure they ran out of the Noctua ones a while back

[hollow spruce]

I think its out of stock because they have no colour ways they want rid of rn

idk what us site has in stock

different DC so

[digital ravine]

not sure if your in US or worldwide, but i guess theyre out of noctua in the US atleast as they couldn't replace mine

[subtle folio]

I'm in the US

[digital ravine]

id guess is a mix of black, orange or retro then.

[subtle folio]

Gotcha

I appreciate yours and MajorGiants input on this

[worldly totem]

How often does the ltt backpack go on sale and for how much? I'm going to be in the market for a new backpack soon and don't want to order and have a sale pop up a week or two later

[tall birch]

Usually it's just during big sales like Lime (Prime) Day or for the Christmas season, and it's usually the backpack with some items bundled with it rather than a flat discount

It's a great bag though! I got the commuter backpack and it has served me well

[digital ravine]

yea i can't recall if it's actually gone on sale, just bundled with other things for the same price

[worldly totem]

Works for me. I'm kicking myself for not picking up one last year

[stuck torrent]

I do wish the various mystery things included the pool of possible things or things that ever were possible. I understand it's mostly to do with what they have random stock of and odds would fluctuate, but it's not always clear if certain things are 100% excluded, or when/if things are added to the pool. If they were to for example do a 'mystery sweater', it wouldn't be clear if hoodies are included (or vice versa if a mystery hoodie could include unhooded things) since they're all the same category in the store, but also kinda different things. Or when applicable if premium/luxe variations of products are excluded or if people could get extremely lucky, etc.

The current mystery options are fairly narrow, but at the same time who knows if one could have randomly gotten a mystery prismagic on launch, or if they're excluded now or only be added to the pool later, or how that works.

[hollow spruce]

As others have said I don't believe it's ever gone on sale directly. I bought the WAN backpack on lime day and I got a free K70 RGB TKL with it

The free shipping swayed me more than the keyboard though if I'm honest

I don't think they tend to do major sales outside if lime day and black Friday. There was the ship storm thing last year but that was a rare situation. I'd say you're safe to buy

[subtle folio]

@undone copper got a good update

So instead of getting another transparent screwdriver I asked for a mystery one

[dusk hemlock]

Two new colors of the Super Soft Hoodie are up on the store

https://www.lttstore.com/products/super-soft-hoodie

[devout hatch]

Istg every time I order a product, you guys drop a variant I like even more.

[devout hatch]

Damn, did shipping go up?

That is not happening for the time being then.

[nimble pewter]

Have you not ordered since the store split?

[devout hatch]

No.

Wait, nvm.

I have.

[devout hatch]

Anyone know what pants those are?

[devout hatch]

I lied ig.

Hopefully MCM sticks to my desk good.

[devout hatch]

Would support even know if I hit them up?

[devout hatch]

Nice.

[near jetty]

Yeah I wanna know what pants those are too

[unkempt seal]

wouldn’t surprise me if they are an upcoming product

[hearty harbor]

Anybody know if USB A -> B and USB C -> B Cables are planned, this is used for DJ equipment, looking for a good durable cable

[unkempt seal]

and yeah i too would have loved to known more colors were coming. would have been nice to have multiple colors instead of multiple grays. oh well.

usb b is not used a lot compared to usb a/c. so probably not. but haven’t seen any official news about it

[hearty harbor]

most digital audio equipment has USB B ports, it's actually really common

[hollow spruce]

but compared to A & C it is not lol

[nimble pewter]

a lot of newer audio stuff uses C anyway

a-b cables usually aren't very problematic either

I'd say not enough of a market for them to bother

[hollow spruce]

woooooo my prismagic and floatplane precision kit is coming Monday

this is by far the quickest delivery yet

ordered on the 30th, arriving on the 9th

10 days

[near jetty]

just ordered my floatplane driver yestersay

or maybe the day before I forget

[hollow spruce]

idk why i bought it i already have the regular precision kit

but oh well

[reef tusk]

easy. blue.

https://klipy.com/gifs/blue-da-ba-dee-1

[jade linden]

thick lines, but cute!

[subtle folio]

I want it to last and believe it or not it was printed at .15 resolution

[jade linden]

what is .15 res? .15mm?

[hollow spruce]

the line width on it looks bigger than i would expect

but im not sure how much of that is being exacerbated by translucent filament

[subtle folio]

yea .15mm

[subtle folio]

i started with .2 for the first layer for better adhesion then the rest is .15mm and very low part cooling and its going at about 100mm/s with accelerations

low part cooling for better transparency

[kind moat]

Not quite Noctua brown and beige but it's what I had on hand

[subtle folio]

That looks sick

[kind moat]

Thank you!
Not sure about the rules, can I post the link to the model?
It's a remix I did

[subtle folio]

I wish I found a print in place model instead of using screws

I would love this model if you wouldn't mind if anything without the noctua logo

But it saying black shaft cause I managed to snag a black shaft screwdriver

[kind moat]

I might try to remix it as a print in place but I actually like the screws, gives me the option to replace it if something happens

https://www.printables.com/model/1580673-lttnoctua-screwdriver-case
That's my remix but the original one is linked in there

[subtle folio]

The logo is such a pain to press fit lol

[kind moat]

I used a BT to print it in one go, no way I'm gonna do it in separate prints

[subtle folio]

I don't have a multicolor printer unfortunately

[cosmic forge]

I looked for a while a couple weeks back but without luck... is there any case out there that has a normal size screwdriver + shaft extension? I only found those with space for a stubby too and I don't want a case that's bigger than necessary lol

[near jetty]

just bought the super soft hoodie in blue

i have never measured myself this much before

[subtle folio]

Stupid question but who uses their screw driver as a fidget spinner lol

[jade linden]

I like having fidget stuff (not necessarily a spinner) in my pens. So I guess that, if I, instead of a pen, used a screwdriver, then yeah sure I would like that

[subtle folio]

Do you have a LTT screwdriver?

[jade linden]

I have been waiting for one for more than 70 days lol

bought it for cyber monday 😭

[subtle folio]

What???

Which one did you buy?

[jade linden]

mystery + commuter backpack

south america shipping things

:C

[subtle folio]

😭

I got my black shaft and transparent screw driver in about 3 weeks

Wow

And I got a mystery screw driver coming in soon as a replacement to my transparent one

[jade linden]

The order got lost, and they no longer have replacements for the black/brass scribedriver, which annoys me A LOT

[subtle folio]

Black/brass?

[jade linden]

the colors

scribedriver, not screwdriver

[subtle folio]

You got a picture of it?

[jade linden]

the pen

[subtle folio]

Oooo

[jade linden]

My order of things I cared about was Backpack > Scribedriver >>>> Screwdriver 😭

And now they dont have scribedrivers 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[subtle folio]

Oof

So have you been in contact with support?

[jade linden]

yeah yeah

its either a refund or replacement item for the same price :/

And they do have the silver/brass but its so much uglier imo, also it doesnt combine with my rotring 800 mechanical pencil

A lot of things have been going wrong for me lately 😩

[subtle folio]

I mean wouldnt it be better to just get the refund and wait for the next best thing?

[jade linden]

As I said, bought it for cyber monday. There they have free shipping. Otherwise, shipping to south america is $90

[subtle folio]

Oh Jesus

[jade linden]

yeah..............

[subtle folio]

I mean they could accommodate with free shipping voucher/coupon code for your next purchase if you ask

[jade linden]

And today I finished listening to WAN show and Linus said like "if you want an item from the store, buy it NOW, because we cant make another batch of 4000 items just so you can buy one", no shit, thats what I did as soon as I saw that pen 2 months ago, and now I got no pen 😭 , I am so frustrated and sad about it........

[jade linden]

I asked something like "hey, could you send the backpack + screwdriver and the pen in different shipments? I wanted the backpack by march and its been more than 2 months, but I also want the pen, so could you send it once you have more stock?"

but that was a no 😭

[subtle folio]

So you could ask for your refund plus a free shipping voucher/coupon

Cause it sounds like your scribedriver mightve been stolen

[jade linden]

yes it was

the thing is, if I ask for a refund, I might not ever find another good deal of the commuter backpack + screwdriver

so I would be wasting money anyways

And I need that backpack

[subtle folio]

Idk what to say then lol

[jade linden]

I travel 5 hours a day to university and to work, and my current backpack sucks

If I am travelling this much I want to at least be as comfortable as I can

(I take the public transport)

[jade linden]

Yeah... At one side, I am like "at least I wish they gave me a compensation, like, "hey, you can replace a scribedriver for a 50 cad item instead of a 40 cad because you have been waiting for your stuff for +2 months"", but at the other side, I understand that they already lost a bunch of money with my free shipping twice and a bunch of expensive items

[subtle folio]

I was sad when they refunded my cryoteal driver so I know where you're coming from

[near comet]

The packages should at least be insured for losses as long as they declare the right value for them

[nimble pewter]

You know they can refund individual items in an order, right?

[kind moat]

Like this one? https://www.printables.com/model/714677-ltt-screw-driver-holder-40-bits-with-extension

[cosmic forge]

I must be blind omg 💀 feel like I scrolled all of printables, haha. Thank you so much!

[kind moat]

@subtle folio well... I ended up working on it.
Can anyone confirm that the new Prismagic screwdrivers are the same dimensions as the regular ones?

[undone copper]

all the drivers are the same dimensions

[hollow spruce]

we made it

what happened to the fancy screwdriver boxes 😄

cutting costs eh?

thats /s btw i do not care bc its just packaging

[reef bridge]

Is there any way to safely remove the bit-carry-part of the transparent screwdriver? So I can fit a light ring beneath it

[near jetty]

oh i never noticed a purple/silver precision driver

[slow pulsar]

Think it’s the floatplane one.

[near jetty]

I think the floatplane has a blue body and blue cap

unless his camera just turned it purple for some reason

[hollow spruce]

funny you should say this, i sent it to a colleague off site and he thought it was purple too. Along with his colleague

my camera must have got weird with it 🤷

but yeah, its the floatplane one

[elder kite]

Yeah this happens
At one point our dog had a leash that, in most lighting, would show up purple in photos

It was not purple

[hollow spruce]

Must just be the lighting in my office. I'll see if i can reproduce it tomorrow

was on my 16 pro max so hardly a shit camera ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pine bay]

it looked a little purple in the fpx of luke seeing it too so

[elder kite]

It's definitely just a white balance thing or something

[hollow spruce]

ny office lights got changed 6 months ago and im still salty about it but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the hue of the light was way better before

[paper mirage]

https://i.imgflip.com/ajp4dz.jpg

[near jetty]

haha im glad I'm not insane!

[hollow spruce]

this was what i got back from a colleague

as soon as i saw that i was like oh i definitely see it

[near jetty]

i think you're just covering up an accidental leak of a new precision driver colorway!!!!

[serene matrix]

Is the AI for support email down? Usually I get a auto reply saying thank you for submitting and that it will be reviewed

[elder kite]

The bits also have a gold hue

[hollow spruce]

so what we've established is my office is just not good for taking photos of precision screw drivers

I don't even have a window bro

IT always get the shitty office

[jade linden]

Nerds don't need sunlight
-# /s

[hollow spruce]

the ONLY upside is I have aircon

a big ceiling unit aircon that is all for me

its overpowered as fuck for the room, it can cool it in minutes lol

[reef tusk]

Aircon over window any day tbh 🤣

I got window no aircon

[vestal plinth]

backpack proving itself once again for travel

[brittle violet]

nice

[prime kite]

what's your experience travelling with it by a plane? I'm planning to take it with me as a carry-on but i'm not certain if it would fit the description due to its size because it exceeds the limit for some airlines (wizzair through which i will be booking a flight with - 40Hx30Wx20D cm). did you need to purchased the additional space?