#lttstore

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raw cairn
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If you want to be friends with linus he seems to be hiring. Probably a better chance of building a relationship that way, than defending him in the chats.

peak smelt
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I am not defending, mearly stating facts rather than speculation

raw cairn
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I am not defending, nearly stating facts rather than speculation - wilde22beest

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Now they're having to replace whole pieces of the backpack because of defective parts. You think theyd do that without a warranty agreement?

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No, theyd do it as the customers came to them individually.

hushed sonnet
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I could see them providing a user serviceable carabiner. The old needing to be cut with pliers, but a new bring interchangeable so someone could even use a different top or use a lock

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Can think of a few designs to make this functional

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Whether they’d actually hold up can’t say though

raw cairn
peak smelt
raw cairn
peak smelt
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Anyway, backpack quality seems super good, over the next week I should be able to compare in person to a peak design and a nomad branded ones

bitter ravine
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Treat people with respect this isn’t a shouting match

raw cairn
bitter ravine
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I’m saying u immature af

peak smelt
raw cairn
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Dudes sayin warranties bad. It's just weird.

raw cairn
onyx drum
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Honestly i was just reporting the issue that reddit post brought about. But who cares if they are not meant for security? that is like car manufacturer claiming because the city is grid locked you don't need cruise control. Like yeah i don't just plan to use the car in the city, that is why I bought a dam car. (FYI this happened to me today it was fun to hear that dude say it). PS i will buy the dam backpack regardless i just want to know if i can replace the carabiners if they brake.

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Also someone please ask for the box dimensions and weight so we can get quotes from mail forwarding and currier services.

raw cairn
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Spend 250usd on a backpack? That peice that broke off wasnt important, stop talking about it.

onyx drum
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thanks i miss the reply. sorry i asked again.

chilly tartan
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I havent been reading chat, so can you easily DIY replace the pulls?

raw cairn
chilly tartan
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right, idk how they are constructed anyways

raw cairn
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Well in the pic it looks like youd have to replace the whole zipper pull

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I assume theres gona be some bag replacements coming.

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Thank god for warranties amirite

chilly tartan
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yea is that possible

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like youd have to cut the metal or smth

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and then how do u get a new one on?

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how are the constructed in the first place?

peak smelt
raw cairn
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Well getting the pull itself off wouldnt be bad, just bend till it breaks. But getting a new one on isnt really doable without replacing the whole zipper mechanism

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It's sad because those zippers do look like higher quality.

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For 250usd youd think itd be alright.

onyx drum
raw cairn
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It's a really weird spot for the pull to break.

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Youd think the whole hinge on that thing would pull off before it snaps at that spot.

onyx drum
raw cairn
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I wonder if some sideways motion stressed it out

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My carabiners all broke the same way, but only cuz I'd constantly fiddle with them.

peak smelt
onyx drum
raw cairn
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It is kind of funny that in a recent ltt video linus mentions how amazing the bag is and how it's made of good materials

chilly tartan
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godlike mats

peak smelt
raw cairn
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The only backpacks I've had problems with pulls breaking off are my 20$ backpacks in highschool

chilly tartan
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i mean they dont break offfff

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just become useless for their entire purpose

raw cairn
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Tru there it still a hunk of metal on there I guess. 8/10

raw cairn
onyx drum
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The zipper pulls are an oversight but really a common one. i 1000 do not blame them for it

peak smelt
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From my short time with the backpack irl to make it snap like in the pic you would have to put an uncomfortable/unreasonable amount of force onto it for a zipper pull. It's not meant to be hung by it.

raw cairn
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Common oversight...

chilly tartan
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I mean idk ur designing a product from scratch (i think) i feel like you'd extensively test every component individually

onyx drum
raw cairn
onyx drum
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its a gold mine

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many stuff mentioned here helped me decide on this backpack

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not for photography but for general use.

raw cairn
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I bet every single other option had a warranty before being sold

onyx drum
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i have looked at direct action and tasmanian tigger but they dont compare for civilian use, other brands have similar prices but are not really a fit for my general use. (university, work and ocasional day trip). For me warranty is mute. I cannot claim it since i am buying from the armpit of the world. Shipping crap back is a no go.

peak smelt
onyx drum
chilly tartan
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The point of a warranty is to stake finances on your good product

peak smelt
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Like it's been said most warranties are not worth the paper it's written on

chilly tartan
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Yeah its cos the system is fucked as hell

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Doesn't mean you shouldn't do it

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Seriously, imagine if EVGA (rest in piece) just said "just trust us, we take care of our customers"

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Do you think it would have taken them to 2022 to give up

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or wayyyyy earlier

raw cairn
chilly tartan
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(your company should go under if you release crap products)

peak smelt
stuck torrent
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I feel like theres some fraction of this chat engaging in straight faced satire, some engaging in intentional trolling, and some genuine feelings, and it's darn near impossible to tell whats what. I think the warranty horse is dead though, everyone has formed their opinions and expressed them various times over the past month or two.

onyx drum
# chilly tartan Seriously, imagine if EVGA (rest in piece) just said "just trust us, we take car...

Warranty stuff is up there when considering anything, but most important is this community. The asepticism here is what keeps the product honest. If Linus was a cult I would not consider his stuff. There are tons of photo backpacks out there that are made to the cult followers and I rather stay away from that. I like that we can talk how the zippers are shit so now I know I should be gentle with them, to be honest i have to save for this backpack. so i am still looking for community feedback. I would like Jerry to try and purposely brake the dam thing just to see what to expect.

chilly tartan
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YEah

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I wish they gave out bags to some ppl to do things with

raw cairn
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Please stop trolling

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You're giving me "barely old enough to download discord" vibes rn

chilly tartan
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give a bag to optimum tech to put sff pcs into

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and give a bag to literally anyone on the planet who has the time to just fuck with it and make a video

onyx drum
raw cairn
onyx drum
# chilly tartan give a bag to optimum tech to put sff pcs into

yeah i would watch that to kill some time. I wonder why they did not sent any backpacks out like with the screwdriver. I guess other creators also are having issues justifying making a video about something so banal and expensive. Or maybe this is some logistics crap.

chilly tartan
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i dont like banal

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makes a mess

onyx drum
raw cairn
bitter ravine
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r u here to do anything besides shitpost lmao

raw cairn
bitter ravine
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not the slam dunk you think it is.

raw cairn
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Lol its picture perfect.

subtle jetty
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tbf I probably won't effectively use the carabiners

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it's also the only thing to grip on over the zipping lead so I get it

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if there's gonna be a user replaceable option, I'd go for the fashion statement option

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"TMB" trust me bro nylon grip loops or something

chilly tartan
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I won't make use of the carabiner either. Which makes it entirely worse if it ends up breaking even tho I don't use it

charred sphinx
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Is this normal wear for the ltt mousepad? Had it maybe 2 months

lime fossil
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That doesn't seem normal

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But you also seem to have it at the edge of a desk where you also seem to have had sharp things scrape

charred sphinx
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That is what I’m dinking

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Every once in a while I’ll stab the edge of my desk out of having unprescribed adhd

bitter ravine
charred sphinx
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maybe just somthing im doing?

bitter ravine
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does the edge of the mousepad regularly rub against anything in your current setup?

charred sphinx
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not really

molten prawn
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Is that where the arm-rest of your chair would hit the desk or something? It looks like it's been rubbed away in just that spot. Definitely not normal wear, shouldn't happen on its own.

charred sphinx
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the weird thing that is directly in the middle where the sticting starts and ends no where else on the mousepad is it frying to this degree

lime fossil
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Again it appears you have sharp objects by the desk

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Odds are sharp thing cut it slightly and that has now expanded

charred sphinx
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like what THE AIR

lime fossil
charred sphinx
bitter ravine
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it is not $50

lime fossil
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Thought hey were 30usd?

bitter ravine
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yes they are

lime fossil
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But in any case seems it may have been cut. Then since it was loose rubbing up on it w bit has expanded it

charred sphinx
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you know when shipping is 20 dollars it turns into 50

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so no its not just 30 dollars

bitter ravine
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are u in eu?

lime fossil
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Things near the edge of a desk are rubbed by your arms and stomach often and so can cause some wear in situations like this

charred sphinx
bitter ravine
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shipping aint 20 in us

lime fossil
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Doesn't matter

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Bigger thing imo is figuring out why it's failing

charred sphinx
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WOW you are all wrong!

bitter ravine
lime fossil
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Wow I already said the bigger thing is figuring out why it's failing

charred sphinx
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maybe i just need to get a plastic mousepad idk since it seems like most mousepads dont hold up to my "abuse" as everyone calls it

rose spade
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You already had tried the GN ModMat? Not that I ever had either, just heard that it's more intended for being abused, rather then the LTT Desk Pad, which is more just a big mouse pad...

charred sphinx
rose spade
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The Modmat, not the Mousemat. Two different things. Although, now that I check pricing, yeah, not even close in pricing 😬

from $100.00

charred sphinx
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spendy sad

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third of what i spent on my 3070 man

bitter ravine
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god damn thats a lot for a mousepad

charred sphinx
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if only it looked this good

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also cat for scale

bitter ravine
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wtf

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did u get

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the ultra massive one

rose spade
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Never been the kinda guy to use a mouse pad. The only reason I use one now is because of Logitech's Power Play mat, and I'm just using the one that was included

charred sphinx
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1200mm*700mm

bitter ravine
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2 feet x 4 feet god damn

charred sphinx
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COUGH COUGH

rose spade
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I was thinking of replacing the included mousepad with one from GN or LTTstore, but they all seem to only offer mouse pads that are larger then the powerplay mat, not ones that match the size ;-;

charred sphinx
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what size is the powerplay mat?

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13.5 x 12.6 x 1.7"??

rose spade
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34cm x 28cm

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Roughly

charred sphinx
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american moment

rose spade
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The GN ones are smaller, while the LTT one is bigger then Powerplay

charred sphinx
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man commited tax fruad to get this juicy mousepad!

bitter ravine
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im not sure how to process this review

charred sphinx
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im not sure either!

molten prawn
# rose spade 34cm x 28cm

They do 30x30 and 40x30, which is pretty close. I'm not sure if 34x28 is a standard size, but if not you probably won't find an exact size match.

runic osprey
peak halo
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I got a burgundy one, feels a bit light but I’ll have to wait and see how it handles the cold

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The new non-AA T-shirt blanks slap though

runic osprey
peak halo
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I do also have a much more insulating 66° North beanie I can fall back on in emergencies

stiff wren
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I see Maker's Muse is a man of culture

candid fern
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I assumed it was my fault because it said do not use in dry machine.

raw cairn
near osprey
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Just had my backpack replaced for almost the same issue (latch didn't break off, but had enough play for it to become unusable) so hopefully they come up with a more permanent solution

blazing bay
blazing bay
candid fern
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I only used it once

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now its basically a swimmer's cap lol

blazing bay
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They might. I think that technically falls under negligence on your part since it says not to but idk

chilly tartan
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Imagine being blue

lime fossil
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Mandatory song lyrics

blazing wave
runic osprey
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Our product dev game is just getting better all the time.

If only our containers would land tho...

chilly tartan
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Who would thought it's so hard to move some damn boxes

candid fern
hushed sonnet
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Imagine a double sided carabiner zipper solution. Cut off the old and clip on the new

candid fern
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But if it's a manufacture defect, I'd want another one

chilly tartan
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unless im misunderstanding double sided carabiner

hushed sonnet
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Perhaps you’re misunderstanding or I used poor wording lol

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I’ll make a quick picture

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Behold my glorious drawing skills

lime fossil
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So a typical S biner

hushed sonnet
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Sort of

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Except one end is really small

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Really really small because it has to go through the hole in the zipper

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Then again something like this might just be a better solution

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This one also looks interesting

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Would love to see one with a solid hole at one spot for potential luggage locks

tidal chasm
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water bottle aqiured

vivid stirrup
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staff bants love it

chilly tartan
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Oh sure

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If ur just doing carabiner then i think a bendable metal ring + carabiner makes plenty of sense

peak halo
bitter ravine
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Damn we aren’t allowed to use external stickers

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I have a sticker that says Skill Issue that I was gonna reply with, guess not

elder trout
raw cairn
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If you continue to talk about it I'm going to have to get a mod in here.

onyx drum
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Expensive Edition CPU pillow just got delivered. I am very pleased lol

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Probably gonna be sleeping on this with how comfy and firm it is

ripe crane
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Arrived yesterday! It feels and looks great, the plastic for the lid doesn’t feel super sturdy tho, especially with how heavy it gets when filled.

vivid stirrup
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Noice

onyx drum
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What’s the current status on backpacks? I know it’s going to be a while until Wave 3 ships out (mine) but I would like to know how far it’s gone so far.

candid fern
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The rest is stuck at Canada ports due to people going on strike

onyx drum
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Nice and not nice

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That’s for wave 1 right?

potent ocean
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Yup

raw cairn
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Unions are cool. But good employers dont need them right?

worthy talon
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will a 16" laptop not fit at all in the ltt backpack?

peak smelt
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some people have put 17 inch ones in, depends on how big the bezals are and the thickness. I have had no issues with a 15.6 metabox/clevo laptop.

worthy talon
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ok thanks 👍

peak smelt
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Also I think someone recently had issues fitting a 17 inch one though, I think they posted pics if you scroll up enough.

raw cairn
peak smelt
chilly tartan
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Backpack wen

candid fern
floral schooner
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Im jealous

chrome night
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Looks like I’m being charged again for customs for the backpack 😂

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What an absolutely terrible system… if you’re forcing retailers to collect VAT, at least handle it properly lol

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Fairly sure it’s on Norway system and not LTT anyway

honest shell
vivid stirrup
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just to make it worse

raw cairn
bitter ravine
timid elk
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Little less

bitter ravine
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well yea its 9700

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but not anywhere near 7500

hushed sonnet
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He’s specifically said he’d feel like he failed as a boss like he wasn’t hearing employees concerns that they would feel they’d need to organize.

bitter ravine
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hes saying the companies have failed

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as good employers

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thats literally the whole point

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his point is not that unions shouldnt exist

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its that they shouldnt have to exist

bitter ravine
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bro u the reason people have to put advisors in videos that this isnt real legal advice

raw cairn
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I think this guy wants to work for ltt

lime fossil
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Yep. If a union is needed the place likely isn't somewhere you should work

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The folks running it have become evil and aren't worth helping by working for em

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Unsure why this is merch tho

raw cairn
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@bitter ravine not merch buddy

lime fossil
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I only have zobiahs side of this conversation btw. It seems they're talking to a troll I blocked

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So might be missing some context

bitter ravine
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Meh they say pretty much what you would expect for a troll

lime fossil
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Actual merch talk. Still refreshing stuff hoping to hear about the shop jacket restock

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And about JIS and gamebit being added

potent ocean
lime fossil
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Oh and a short showing the screwdriver going into each shop jacket pocket would be funny

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I hope they do it

candid fern
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If we're back to merch news it looks like black shaft orders will come a week or two after the date posted for first wave

raw cairn
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So you dont have to do it for free anymore

bitter ravine
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thats some fine projection skills u got there

fervent river
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am i stupid or is there no way to change your lttstore account email adress?

hushed sonnet
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Had that with a few Shopify stores. I haven’t tried on LTT but on another I couldn’t change it

raw cairn
chilly tartan
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Why did his name go white

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my phone must be bugged

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thot my boy candy man got banned

bitter ravine
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We all wished the same

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It’s a glitch with mobile that has to do with assumptions or some shit that idr

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Basically like if it goes to load when it doesn’t have the correct packet

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It just stays white for a bit

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Without their nickname either

molten prawn
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I think it happens when the user profile can't be fetched. It also happens on Desktop to me occasionally.

bitter ravine
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Never seen it on desktop

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It’s especially prevalent when you click on a mobile notification, cause it thinks it already knows that information

raw cairn
bitter ravine
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genuine question

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Why are you here

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Is being an extremely mild nuisance to others fulfill your lifelong dreams

raw cairn
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Extremely mild. Lmao

bitter ravine
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I pity you

raw cairn
chilly tartan
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I dont wish he got banned

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tyranny mooment

raw cairn
solid prairie
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Why are you the way that you are

raw cairn
solid prairie
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Stop with the straw man

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We all know that ain't the problem

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And stop bringing warranties up we're over that

raw cairn
bitter ravine
raw cairn
sonic oar
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Anyone else get a small refund on their LTT Backpack?

main summit
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Same

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Don’t know why tho

sonic oar
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Are you wave 1?

main summit
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Yes

sonic oar
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Me too

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Maybe that has something to do with it

main summit
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I’m assuming for the Delay they haves us some money back

near osprey
main summit
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Oh

sonic oar
peak halo
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Double shipping because backpack shipped separately from everything else

onyx drum
candid fern
chrome night
candid fern
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It also has absolutely nothing to do with merch

chrome night
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That’s true, I didn’t even look into the context tbf 😛

raw cairn
bold ledge
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Why did I get a $6 refund?

bitter ravine
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some other people mentioned that they got a partial refund because they were charged for stickers that were supposed to be free

solid prairie
bitter ravine
solid prairie
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will do

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im baited too easily

peak smelt
wheat wagon
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can we get the handle design for the screwdriver i want to try to design something similar

bitter ravine
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i think they said they were semi open to the idea for repairability reasons, but didnt really see any way for a consumer to repair so didnt feel the need

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but that was like

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months ago in an off comment

stuck torrent
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Technically you were charged for shipping on the stickers, rather than strictly being charged for the stickers, but same idea. Was a day one hiccup.

wheat wagon
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i would say this is decently close

raw cairn
wheat wagon
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why

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i didnt copy it exactly

raw cairn
hushed sonnet
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It’s not like people couldn’t 3D scan their driver when they get it

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Or create a mould of it

bitter ravine
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yall

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pls ignore them

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this dude only here to antagonize lmao

wheat wagon
bitter ravine
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bingo

wheat wagon
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ok

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noted

bitter ravine
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theyve been being obnoxious for like

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probably 12 hours straight

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and doing similar for days

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im honestly surprised by how little of a life they have

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probably got fired recently and doesnt know what to do with their time

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

chilly tartan
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yall toxic

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just shill the backpack & call out the shills

wheat wagon
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if i wanted to ask for the cad of the screwdriver would I do that here or through lttstore support?

hushed sonnet
hushed sonnet
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The best you could get is a 3D scan from the@community probably

raw cairn
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itd be cool if they did tho

hushed sonnet
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In fact a 3D scan might be better. Since the handle is made of multiple pieces with individual cad files for each likely. Why they wouldn’t just toss that out there

foggy valley
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So what’s up with the sticker refunds? They were free with my backpack so I’d never expect a refund for something I never paid for in the first place, feels like they might be losing quite a bit of money for no reason

potent ocean
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They accidentally charged extra shipping for some of the orders that had stickers

foggy valley
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That makes more sense

chrome night
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let the wait begin! 😛 just sent a support request for the double charged VAT pogg

keen shard
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ltt waterbottle too good just had to get another

lyric turret
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Out of curiosity, anyone know if they are still on track for backpack and scewdriver?

fading lily
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I was fortunate and received my wave 1 backpack. My wife is still waiting for hers. Taking it in its first plane ride today and have to say it so far exceeds all of my lofty expectations. I kept just putting more and more and more stuff into it until I ran out of stuff before it ran out of space.

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Headphones, two laptops, switch with extra controllers, notepad, 40oz water bottle, dnd starter kit, huge bag of chargers and connectors and stuff, mouse, raincoat, and other stuff I’m not remembering.

coarse sage
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Be interesting if that fits under the seat

fading lily
thorn berry
fading lily
fading lily
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So far super happy with it.

lyric turret
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Im really hoping they ship by oct 10. although i am at the end of the wave

fading lily
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Thanks!

dusty merlin
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Do we have any update on if the next backpack shipment left the port?

chilly tartan
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Let us know if it does genuinely fit under the seat when slightly bulging

fading lily
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I will awkwardly remove it from the overhead and place it under the seat in front of me mid flight for science!

chilly tartan
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Lmaooo

peak halo
lyric turret
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AYY.

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So its should be pretty close

bitter ravine
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well i mean

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its just whenever the strike ends

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  • like 3-5 business days
candid fern
lyric turret
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Hmm

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I see

chilly tartan
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They already got all the orders worth of stock at the port 🥴

lyric turret
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So im a little lost on whats keeping it at port? guess im missing that part

bitter ravine
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the fact that

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oh

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i mean a boat cant just leave a port

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people have to help a boat leave a port

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so if the boats wanted to leave and unload elsewhere

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they would need people to help them

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aka the employees on strike

lyric turret
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Ah i see

dry bolt
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There are a lot of good youtube videos out there explaining what's been happening for the last few years at major shipping ports, but the simple breakdown is, more stuff on boats which in turn is piling more stuff up at ports, taking longer to offload, taking longer to move and taking longer to get out. Worker shortages, driver shortage and more stuff means things take longer to arrive and move out of ports. Supply chain issues is exactly that, every backup compounds how long it takes to move something to the next step in the shipment process

hushed sonnet
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Basically if you were looking for a solid job, you’re probably guaranteed one on a dock even once the strike ends.

bitter ravine
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i meannnn

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people dont go on strike for no reason

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so im not sure its a solid job...

hushed sonnet
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That is indeed true

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But I guess I mean secure job

bitter ravine
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uh

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no

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the whole point of a strike

hushed sonnet
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In that hard to lose

bitter ravine
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is that they normally fire anyone who complains

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so they cant fire everyone

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so everyone complains

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you dont have job security

hushed sonnet
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Not quite.

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Strikes aren’t just that. It’s also when a company is paying too little and the once way to increase pay may be to hand together. Or for working conditions where concerns just aren’t being met.

bitter ravine
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thats not a contradiction to what i said..

hushed sonnet
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Strikes make them heard. Being fired is only one risk, but certainly not the only thing leading a strike. You can complain and not be fired.

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You just may not be listened to either

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The strike forces them to listen

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You’re acting as if getting fired is the only reason to strike together. Because you said if you complain you get fired.

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I’m posing the alternative that they might just not listen to anyone who complains. So they strike to force the employer to respond

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Because being real you don’t just fire anyone when you’re in very heavy need of manpower.

solid prairie
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This is my take as well

vivid stirrup
chilly pier
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does anyone know if they started sending screwdrivers for the people at the pop up shop?

idle stag
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Did anyone else get both styles of lid with the 64oz bottle?

frail gulch
idle stag
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Sweet! This was the first bottle I had ordered that came with both so it threw me off a little bit

vivid stirrup
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I prefer the old lid for tea, the new for water

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So getting both is awesome

raw cairn
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Normally you cant even fire people if they're in a union, its alot of effort for the employer to go through that process.

bitter ravine
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im not saying people go on strikes because complaining gets you fired

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im saying

raw cairn
#

Even harder if it's a union in the public sector.

bitter ravine
#

people want to complain about things

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and find that they cant

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so they have to join with others

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to be heard

raw cairn
#

Yeah that's a union

bitter ravine
#

the origins of strikes are that they cant fire everyone

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if everyone complains about an issue

raw cairn
#

A strike is just a mechanism they can pull to force the employers hand. A union is what protect people from being mass fired.

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Not the strike itself.

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Strikes only happen if the employer hasent negotiated an agreement/contract with the employees

hushed sonnet
raw cairn
#

Or in extremely rare cases, as an act of solidarity if the employer overreached.

raw cairn
hushed sonnet
#

I was part of one. However I switched careers.

bitter ravine
#

strikes are what lead to the creation of unions

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it was literally people saying

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you cant fire all of us. gives us rights

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thats literally just a fact

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i dont know how this is confusing to you

raw cairn
#

Its gona be rough because its public sector, they have refused pay increases for 7 years. Hard to negotiate with the gov when they can legislate whatever they want.

raw cairn
hushed sonnet
raw cairn
#

That's why you see all these little starbucks locations creating unions and then going on strike for pay/benefits.

hushed sonnet
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Since it’s hard to fire someone in a union even if they’re complaining

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And it’s not just because of strikes. Unions have dues which give them money to fight legally on the rights of an employee even if the rest don’t strike

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The whole point of union dues

raw cairn
#

Well not me, but other ppl who've done the thing

hushed sonnet
#

Nice cover lol

raw cairn
#

Nah lol fr, had a dude flood a whole basement. 300k in damages to a public building (our tax dollars if ur canadian). Not fired.

Infact, because of his seniority, he got promoted when a new position opened like months later.

hushed sonnet
raw cairn
solid prairie
#

Bruh

raw cairn
#

Ye

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Lol

hushed sonnet
#

To be fair, once in a while mistakes do happen. Unless you can prove it’s a common thing with someone it can be hard to justify firing an experienced person based on a single instance of lapse of judgement

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Like the accident has already happened. Not much firing will do to rectify it

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At least that’s how I see it

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If it’s a clear problem individual then yes, fire them, but lapses do happen

raw cairn
#

Yeah but when it's almost half a million in damages. Idk man, my old jobs would have for sure let me go and I would have completely understood.

hushed sonnet
#

Firing them can just cost the company even more money if the person is experienced and they need to them find someone new

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Like there’s “punitive” firing, and there’s constructive firing

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Punitive firing just isn’t the best route all the time if it was a clear single lapse in judgement

candid fern
#

How is this merch related?

hushed sonnet
#

I believe Linus has said similar.

hushed sonnet
# candid fern How is this merch related?

We’re talking about unions and how they’re holding back the ports and how unions keep people from getting fired with all the port workers striking which are holding up backpacks and other stock

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Clearly

solid prairie
chilly tartan
#

Fuuuck tha unions

raw cairn
hushed sonnet
#

I don’t think they said union bad. That’s a bit puttting words into their mouth

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And mine considering I never gave an opinion necessarily on whether they were good or bad technically

bitter ravine
#

well i mean

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u declaring boatyard work a solid, secure, job

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was definitely an opinion

raw cairn
bitter ravine
#

Apple gonna gonna apple

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yet i wouldnt call being a factory worker a solid secure job

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with them

raw cairn
#

You know how much more money itd cost in downtime and rehiring and retraining? Just give them the 5% or whatever they're asking.

That's how the negotiations go down, and typically it works in the unions favor.

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When it's a public sector union it can get hairy tho. Like I said earlier, it's hard to negotiate with the government if they can just sign laws to do whatever they want.

bitter ravine
#

that not something accomplished by the union

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thats something accomplished by the strike

raw cairn
#

Usually theres a collective agreement signed by both parties.

lost raven
#

Does anyone know if I have to pay additional customs when I let it ship to the EU?

#

Like after ordering

raw cairn
lost raven
#

I already paid via PayPal, do I have to pay more after it arrives in Germany?

raw cairn
#

I remember seeing screenshots with VAT on them for you guys. But idk if that was through the seller or some shipping app.

lost raven
#

Hm

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I don’t know, the paperwork is a real pain

raw cairn
lost raven
raw cairn
bitter ravine
#

i think thats something where you just contact customer support

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and they cancel it for you

lost raven
bitter ravine
#

uh

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how long ago

lost raven
#

Yea I was too fast ordering I only saw that shipping already delayed a lot cause of screwdriver

lost raven
#

09.01

bitter ravine
#

you emailed the correct address, and they still havent responded?

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in a month?

lost raven
#

They did

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Instantly

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But I feel sorry for now canceling after I changed shit twice

bitter ravine
#

oh

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welp

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im not sure theres a way to cancel without going through support

#

so u either gonna have to or just keep the order lol

raw cairn
#

Fr tho if it isnt shipped yet then it should be okay

lost raven
#

Can I ping staff here?

molten prawn
#

They'll tell you to contact support.

raw cairn
bitter ravine
ocean slate
#

Anyone own the workshop jacket and do metal working with it? I need something for some grinding and mild welding amongst other workshop duties

solid prairie
#

Seems to be ideal for that from the way Alex uses it

lime valley
#

Water bottle paradise. Though this order continues my trend of never getting the free stickers in my order 😀

lime valley
willow tide
#

Question: how hot (or not) can the LTT hoodie be washed at?

jagged orchid
willow tide
#

WAN one I guess (current variants)

jagged orchid
#

Website says: "Machine wash cold with like colours. Lay flat to dry. Iron low. Do not bleach."

coarse sage
#

Cold wash and tumble dry on low heat 👍

hushed sonnet
#

Really don’t think Linus should advertise the driver on other channels until they’re out of backlog tbh

chilly tartan
#

Preorder

candid fern
#

Backorder

upbeat loom
#

Been daily driving the shortcircut hoodie for a few months and am loving it. Just got the trust me bro tshirt a week or two ago and I love the fit and feel of the tshirt. Wish I got one in black while it was available though.

fossil flower
steel tiger
#

I just want me screw driver D:

vale birch
timid elk
#

Is that for backpack

raw cairn
lime valley
#

@fossil flower I did have it in my cart and it's on my invoice. Idc tbh, was never gonna use them. I just always get unlucky with the stickers. I'm more concerned about the scuff on the one bottle but if it bothers me enough I'll judt contact support but I'm really not picky lol

chilly tartan
#

What were the pop up issues

#

Oh nvm on the screwdriver

raw cairn
bitter ravine
#

didnt they make the announcement to committing to replacing all of those BEFORE the TMB warranty

chilly tartan
#

I don't think so

raw cairn
#

Pop up shop was late august. Warranty was mid august

#

Might be wrong tho, can look for urself.

bitter ravine
#

i mean its not particularly ironic cause they 100% wouldve replaced all pop-up shop units

#

but alr

opal night
#

any updates on the delay?

peak halo
#

ShortCircuit sweatpants let’s goooooooo https://www.lttstore.com/products/shortcircuit-sweatpants

chilly tartan
#

More durable than the backpack zipper! 🤣

raw cairn
idle stag
#

Well dang

molten prawn
#

How did that happen?

idle stag
#

Honestly I’m not even sure. I went to take a drink once I got to work and I got wet from it

#

I just got it yesterday too so I already messaged support. I’m not really expecting a replacement but it would be nice

#

I think I may have tightened it a little too much

thorn berry
#

Looks like a hard impact, tbh I'm hoping these other lids I have fit the ltt bottle

molten prawn
idle stag
#

I already have two other lids from the other bottles I ordered and the old style that they threw in with this one so it’s not end of the world if I don’t get a replacement

violet river
#

They're late again lol

raw cairn
eager lily
idle stag
#

The lids from my other bottles haven’t done anything like this so I’m assuming manufacture defect plus tightening a little too much got to it

raw cairn
idle stag
#

Especially only in day two 😂

raw cairn
#

Unless you're superman or some shit

thorn berry
raw cairn
#

Imagine talkin down on warranties.

#

Like they're bad or some shit.

raw cairn
# thorn berry

Yikes man, if ur that upset about the warranty u could just not inquire about it when ur ltt merch breaks

raw cairn
#

Not very nice my guy. Not sure why you're so hostile towards me and warranty claims.

thorn berry
#

Not sure why you feel the need to sit in here every single day saying goofy crap like "good thing you got a warranty now" as if the bottles had no warranty before a few weeks ago. If you like GN so much why not sit over there and talk about how great their warranties are?

raw cairn
#

Who said I like GN?

#

Listen, ur a fanboy of ltt. I like ltt too. Why r u so pissed about GN or warranties? Ur confusing my dude.

thorn berry
#

Nah, I don't care that much either way. It's just weird you sit in here and anytime someone mentions an issue with any product you're like "oh good thing you have a warranty now"

eager lily
#

it is a good thing that we have a warranty now

thorn berry
eager lily
#

idk about that but im just saying its a good thing that we have a warranty

raw cairn
#

We all have to make sure hes okay or else were in trouble

raw cairn
bitter ravine
#

"crapshoot"

bitter ravine
candid fern
#

Poor guy

bitter ravine
#

it basically boiled down to "if theres a problem, we'll fix it"

#

but like

#

people wanted their guarantee

#

so now its guaranteed in writing

peak halo
#

Less than 10,000 black shaft screwdrivers available for backorder

warm pond
#

In the description of the SC sweatpants it says TASTEFULLY PLACED ORANGE ACCENTS
This is a mistake, right?

floral schooner
onyx drum
#

Welp wan show says titanum zippers are in

warm pond
floral schooner
#

oh, are they cutting it off at wave 8?

warm pond
#

that he didn't say. Just said "less then 10,000"

raw cairn
#

When people dont want warranties you know theres other motives.

raw cairn
bitter ravine
#

can you go 10 minutes without projecting

raw cairn
#

what am i projecting? lmao

bitter ravine
#

your obsession with warranties, primarily

#

that is like

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months old news

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nobody cares

#

move on

#

you have your warranty

raw cairn
#

huh? lol saying good thing you have a warranty, isnt anything to be upset about man.

#

idk why youre so defensive, its really cringe lmao

pliant abyss
#

what if they made gpu bodypillow

bitter ravine
#

where is luke bodypillow

bold ledge
glacial solar
# floral schooner oh, are they cutting it off at wave 8?

I think the black ones were never directly counted in the waves. They said they would be made to order, so they probably just waited a bit to see how many orders they would get, then ordered the total from the factory plus an extra 10k to account for any stragglers who wanted one.

chilly tartan
#

Warranty

stable ridge
subtle jetty
#

maybe there should be a rule about general flaming lol

#

leme just make you angry with edgy pepes and other memes, and words like "cringe" "yikes"

#

followed by why you are doing something I don't like in this chat but I pretend everyone doesn't like you

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so that I can "cope" that I got called out

potent ocean
stable ridge
#

Ik hes goofy

vivid stirrup
#

Any updates on backpack delivery bois

#

It's screwdriver season too

chilly tartan
#

my understanding is every wave should be getting into their buildings within the next few weeks

bitter ravine
vivid stirrup
#

Jk but I hope it comes soon my bag is on its very last legs lol,

#

Not buying a temp one tho

opal night
#

eh... should just make thicker backpack carabiners from fibre reinforced plastics - ltt really seems in need of a dedicated material engineer - for both testing/feedback/design as well as examination of 3rd party products

candid fern
#

It's nice that they're going to fix them all moving forward and send out a zipper replacement kit to those who have gotten them

#

Tbh I'm not even going to use the zipper replacements unless I need to.

#

I don't plan on putting any load on my carabiner zippers. It's not what they were supposed to be used for.

plain fern
#

The thing was vary fragile to sideways loads. It's not designed to be pushed in that direction, but it is very reasonable to expect it to get loaded in that direction by someone using it without babying it

#

It's a shame the original part didn't work out, I'm happy with their response

opal night
plain fern
#

I'd be happier if the backpack was on my back though

opal night
plain fern
#

Video suggestion, channel superfun goes to the docks

#

Colton can get un-fired if he finds one of the shipping containers with backpacks in it

opal night
opal night
#

but making the design less brittle by increasing flex range would probably make the most sense

plain fern
#

Or going with a different design altogether

chilly tartan
#

are they swapping teh part?

opal night
opal night
chilly tartan
#

they ill replace before shipping?

plain fern
#

The backpacks are already made they said they aren't sure if the rest of the backpacks will get zipper pulls swapped at warehouse, or if they'll send the replacement pulls and the tool with every backpack

opal night
opal night
#

tbh

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if i recieved one with a swap out kit

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i'd probably keep it with the inital ones

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cuz

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rarer 😉

chilly tartan
#

mines already gonna be late AF i'd rather just have a fixed one

plain fern
#

Or, remove the initial ones, and keep them in a commemorative box

opal night
plain fern
#

I expect they'll send replacement pulls and the plastic tool in the shipping package to diy

opal night
molten prawn
opal night
#

and now it seems it's gonna be multiple times every week for multiple hours in public transport... cuz reasons ... and don't wanna deal with public parking

plain fern
#

Once the tool is made, it's probably cheaper to make a bunch of it than to spend man hours swapping themselves

#

Unless they have significant concerns about warranty claims by user error with the diy kit

opal night
opal night
plain fern
#

They gotta do the math and guess

opal night
#

keep in mind... ur talking ~ 10-15-20k units

#

rn they can limit that 10-15-20k to ~ 5k people

#

issue is with eu customers etc

plain fern
#

Lol, international cross shipping, that sounds more like refund territory on a package this size than actual rma

chilly tartan
#

I cant wait to be forced to repair something i spent $250 on poooggggg

#

preorder btw

opal night
plain fern
#

Backorder, and you're free to cancel

chilly tartan
#

preorder, and ive been thinking about it every day lmao

plain fern
#

Then Maybe that makes the most sense. the backpack is not a limited edition item. If you change your mind in a year, or want to wait for a Rev2 if that happens, there should be stock available

opal night
#

tbh

#

simplest solution is like

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teath that lock the top of the carabiner from moving sideways whenever it's not pushed in

plain fern
#

It would still be a fragile peice that could break while in the open position

#

And machining parts that aren't flat makes things harder/ more expensive

opal night
plain fern
#

It would definitely be better, but I don't know if good enough

opal night
#

talking by how like this works but could be reversed (inside/outside) on the top part of the lock to keep the mechanism relatively the same

plain fern
#

That is 2 piece construction. can't tell how the ltt pull is made

plain fern
#

I've got some really nice one piece carabineers (not for climbing)

#

These look like they used a cutoff disk to separate the metal into 2 flat maring surfaces

#

Putting any form of notch mating would be really machining intensive

opal night
# plain fern Putting any form of notch mating would be really machining intensive

Disclaimer: Do NOT hold/pull the backpack by the carabiner! Always use the straps!

I’ve owned the backpack for a few days and only realized this issue because of a post on the LTT subreddit, which can be found here: https://bit.ly/3C8yc5J

Hope this helps in some way!

#LTT #LTTBackpack #linustechtips #backpack #manufacturingissue #carabiner

▶ Play video
plain fern
#

Oh, thanks for that

#

Yeah, they could have added that feature reasonably to this style

chilly tartan
#

oh wtf

#

the opposite tip of the latch should have a notch that slips into the fixed part

opal night
#

i'm not blaming them tho - they could've overlooked it

plain fern
#

Teething issues for a cool design 1st edition

opal night
#

personally i'm not a big fan of the traditional carabiner design

plain fern
#

Sadly, it's attached to a 250$ backpack the size of a carry-on

opal night
#

i've seen multiple attempts at improving it

chilly tartan
#

They even stamped their name onto those things 💀 lol

opal night
#

and unscrewing piece that caps off the entrance

#

both slower to use.. but basically same cost while majorly improving durability

plain fern
#

Well, if you look closely

#

He stamped his logo on the part that doesn't break

opal night
#
  • such part.. probably a 3rd party design that they just purchased cuz it's not efficient to do all of it yourself
#

add the logo, choose exact dimentions and color

#

and don't bother with ~ choosing a spring manufacturer, exact alloy code, all machining partners etc etc

chilly tartan
opal night
#

one big question i have with the backpack.... will there be a nice spot to store my kindle

chilly tartan
#

in the laptop pouches maybe

opal night
#

you can open on a train

#

without opening the whole backpack etc

chilly tartan
#

mmmmmmm

#

not sure

opal night
#

ye me 2

chilly tartan
#

Huh, LTT short about whats in his bag. Does he actuall use a pebble for audio control?

#

Feel like someone could easily make a product that bluetooth connects to control music

opal night
chilly tartan
#

hmm'

opal night
#

why? cuz there's no real user base

chilly tartan
#

tru

plain fern
#

Some product I desperately wish existed, is a Bluetooth button set to tag hazards, and confirm / deny existing hazards in Waze. Something we could visor mount

#

Tapping through layered touchscreen menus on Android auto is a horrible idea

chilly tartan
#

That would be so nice

plain fern
#

6 buttons in a grid. 2 are confirm / deny for when a warning pops up, the other 4 are dedicated preset buttons, that could be remapped, but take 1 press to add something to the map.

I'd pay $49 for that

chilly tartan
#

Yeah that would be rly fcukin useful

#

I wonder how that goes on in the software side, if its possible to interface with those apps

#

or how bluetooth works in general

plain fern
#

It would be possible if the Waze API Allows it. I don't know if it does

#

But I think there's a modded Waze apk with jbv1 integration, to sync up with radar detectors

chilly tartan
#

If its open enough to sync with radar detector then it must be capable of that

plain fern
#

Probably. It looks like wzsabre doesn't need root

#

Waze themselves should sell it

chilly tartan
#

ngl would be a pretty cool little project

molten prawn
# plain fern Waze themselves should sell it

Or just find some way to make it better for free. They only have the feature to improve the platform, but there’s no chance I’m reaching across my car while driving past a hazard to hit the stupid button on my phone.

plain fern
#

Physical products cost money, and profit is incentive

#

I'm imagining on par with a garage door opener on the visor, but for Waze reports

chilly tartan
#

yeee

molten prawn
#

True, but you’re also crowdsourcing the data as it is. Personally I wouldn’t want to pay them money for a device allowing me to make their platform better for them, particularly when a UI change would have the same effect.

plain fern
#

It's different though, touch screens need you to look at them

#

I'm buying the ability to keep my eyes on the road while participating

#

I'd pay up to $50, I'd love if it was $20, and existed

#

My main point of comparison, is the Spotify car thing

molten prawn
#

I think they should just add voice control personally. If Siri can write complex texts for me I figure they can probably figure out a dozen phrases.

plain fern
#

It has voice control

#

But it sucks

#

And doesn't work in Android auto yet

chilly tartan
#

software problem 😳

plain fern
#

And I would still prefer to have buttons on my visor

hard thorn
#

any updates on wave 2 backpacks?

#

like shipping and stuff

#

preferably with a fixed carabiner lol

molten prawn
#

I believe wave 1 is still incomplete, so soontm

hard thorn
#

F

molten prawn
#

If the new zipper pull solution is imminent they may even hold some orders to fix it.

#

I don’t think they’ve given an official plan for that yet though. Only that they’d likely fix unshipped bags rather than sending a kit once that’s available.

fringe monolith
#

Got a quick question for any fellow Brits regarding LLTStore ordering. Once a package arrives into the UK, does anyone know which parcel courier handles it to your door? DPD, UPS, Parcelforce etc.

peak sable
#

Examples I ordered a few shirts which was a small package and it was delivered by evri

#

i currently have a 64oz big water bottle which is currently on its way to me and in the US atm the tracking for that days Royal Mail Tracked 48 once in the uk

#

Hopefully if what i hear first 3k screwdrivers are being shipped in the next week i should be able to say how my driver is coming

fringe monolith
#

So hopefully my driver, 21oz and 32oz bottles shouldn't be handled by Evri (Hermes). That's great news

peak sable
#

so good news just rechecked my 64oz bottle tracking to find "Friday, September 30, 2022 10:36 PM
United Kingdom

Customs Cleared"

#

Hopefully i should get that this week hopefully before a trip to Europe on Friday

fringe monolith
#

Damn, that was quick

peak sable
#

Just over 2 weeks is pretty quick yes. Normally its 3-4 weeks in my experience

peak sable
# fringe monolith Damn, that was quick

@fringe monolith I had a replacement Bottle lid shipped in warranty due to a breakage which LTT shipped via DHL and Evri delivered to my house. 3 weeks exactly door to door for that one recently

vivid stirrup
#

Noice

peak sable
#

So also just reviewing my LTT order history when I ordered my backpack I also added SCREWDRIVER T-SHIRT which I have now recieved that was also sent from LTT via DHL and Evri in the UK. So hopefully for us UK folks if it goes from Canada to UK with DHL its 14 days for a shipment but if its Asendia it takes more like 3 weeks

fringe monolith
#

Cool, thanks for the info Chris, much obliged

peak sable
#

all of this is within the 14-28 days that ltt state when buying so all good

fringe monolith
#

I was just more worried about it being Yodel or Evri, but now I know the shipping times. I just hope I get my driver by Christmas, ships out by 10th Dec, so it will be touch and go

peak sable
#

Looking forward to getting my RGB hoddie with my driver also on that order for the winter

raw cairn
molten prawn
#

this guy lmao

chilly tartan
#

I didnt know you could bend up the YKK zipper thingy even once

#

I figured they would snap immediately

raw cairn
#

poor quality zippers

#

scarey

molten prawn
weak meadow
#

Any updates on the black shaft screwdrivers?

sand breach
#

He said last night there’s like 10000 of them left or so? I think

#

Somewhere around there

viral plank
#

Have they made an announcement regarding the backpack zippers? I'm not sure if I missed their announcement

stray epoch
hard thorn
#

I can't really sit through 2 hours of unedited content lol

#

WAN show just doesn't work for me

chilly tartan
#

They said they were like

#

planning on sending current owners a kit with tools to replace

#

and then for future backpack ships they are gonna swap them with something else

#

but they dont know what pull they r gonna swap

hard thorn
#

Ah good

#

Sounds like it's under control then

#

Pretty scary when your 300 dollar backpack has bad carabiners

stray epoch
#

Yeah they’re shipping a kit with a new carabiner (yet to be determined which design, they showed some candidates), and also a normal zipper pull so you can choose what to replace it with

#

They’re also coming up with an injection molded tool that can be used to do a one-time install of the replacement

chilly tartan
#

solid job

peak smelt
chilly tartan
#

Idk i mean

#

you design a custom carabiner (in some unknown capacity) you'd think he'd just sit there and toy with it, pulling it in different ways dont u think

raw cairn
#

good thing we have a warranty tho

chilly tartan
#

👺

raw cairn
raw cairn
chilly tartan
#

Their argument was that they didnt test for that since the carabiner is meant to connect to the other carabiner, not really anything else

#

But idk man i can very easily imagine grabbing the zipper and accidentally only pulling on the lever and busting it

raw cairn
#

It seemed almost brittle from the pictures I saw

chilly tartan
raw cairn
#

Oh wow theres a video.

chilly tartan
#

wtf

#

is linus's finger completely fucked up?

#

it looks like he lost the tip of his finger at some point

#

unless im a moron and thats just a bandage or something but it doesnt look like it?

#

ok im probably fake-newsing unless it was very very recent thats just a bandage or something weird

chilly tartan
stuck torrent
#

I think he's made some comments along the lines of "yeah the jerry rig everything knife is sharp, can confirm" regarding the state of his finger.

chilly tartan
#

oh rly? lol

stuck torrent
#

Nothing too crazy, he didn't have to undergo some sort of yakuza dishonour ritual or anything like that.

chilly tartan
#

lmao

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I just couldn't tell where the bandaid started

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i had no idea what was going on there

potent ocean
raw cairn
bitter ravine
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damn we can’t use external stickers

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I would very more like to reply To a message with a donowall sticker

subtle jetty
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lttog should be the only sticker you'll ever need

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or whatever these are

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emotes

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same thiiiing. just one's bigger

bitter ravine
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i mean

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even under that

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you still need

raw cairn
bitter ravine
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you are

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August 8

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this year

raw cairn
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Yeah and even I knew this

bitter ravine
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good for you.

raw cairn
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Lol

bitter ravine
raw cairn
chilly tartan
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warrant

raw cairn
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y

sullen frost
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There needs to be a discord sticker of Brian the Electrician

raw cairn
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briiiiaannnn the electrioooonnn

sullen frost
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Lol yeah lol

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Catchphrase song

raw cairn
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has he been in anything recently?

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feel like its been years

chilly tartan
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I think the air conditioning video

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No nvm theres a diff newer one but i think its 2020

raw cairn
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i coulda swore it was a server installation

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or something

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where something caught on fire

chrome night
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used the backpack today while commuting, pretty nice 🙂

raw cairn
chrome night
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I find it fine tbh

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I mean, it's not a small backpack, so if all you need is your laptop and a charger, you probably don't want one

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it's also not designed for that, it's designed to carry a fair bit of stuff

hot hemlock
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LTT Screwdriver balloon when?

gaunt ice
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My TMB shirt arrived, feels nice and soft material. Mystery cable ties were purple. I like the color so pretty happy with that.

robust patrol
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Was the screwdriver delayed?

stray epoch
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I don't think so

vivid stirrup
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The screwdriver gets its rachets air shipped and manufactured in canada

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So they will go out faster than backpacks

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"Apparently" don't take everything I say as truth as its hearsay

lime fossil
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Thought screwdrivers we're ahead o schedule somewhat

raw cairn
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I hope they get an agreement soon.

bitter ravine
raw cairn
candid fern
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And the target date is oct 20th

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So they are supposedly ahead of schedule

raw cairn
shy yoke
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How big is the gap on the zipper clamp for the carabiner zipper?

molten prawn
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The gap between the part that closes and the carabiner body? Not big. Not sure how exactly you'd measure that, but my fingernail just barely fits.

shy yoke
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You’d use a caliper

near osprey
lime fossil
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kinda excited to get the screwdriver. just still wish there were JIS and gamebit

candid fern
lime fossil
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yeah but nearing in step

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which at least i read as like wave 3ish probably will be roughly on par

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a week or two is nearly on par to me

shy yoke
near osprey
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oh, I thought you meant the latch and the body, gimme a sec

raw cairn
# shy yoke This area is .46mm?

Yeah and were gona have to bend it up and put the new peice in and bend it back. If they snap it will be up to ltt customer support to decide if you did it too much.

near osprey
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Can't stick the calipers into it so might be slightly off but at the largest gap, seems to be around 2.23mm

shy yoke
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Cuz the expensive ti carabiner Linus showed off was literally something that I was looking at, and there are some d links and the screw in rod might, just might slide in without the need to bend the zipper

chilly tartan
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idk about those flexible titanium carabiners

near osprey
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same, like I get that they won't break with lateral pressure but considering how much they flex, it seems like anything linked to them would slip out easily

shy yoke
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This is from a company that makes those carabiners, the rod on the bottom unscrews, and if it’s thin enough, could be a good base to open up the option of modularity

near osprey
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they're kinda ugly IMO, not a fan

raw cairn
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Had to bend it back to its regular position

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Seemed like the same problem would still apply to the titanium ones as the garbage ones that were on there originally

shy yoke
peak halo
chilly tartan
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Yeah the titantium ones didnt seem to have much off-axis strenfgth anyways

peak halo
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My new 40oz water bottle is facing its first real test on a humid day in Jamaica

raw cairn
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Then had to bend it back to its regular position. Lmao

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It seems like hes picking style over function

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Which is somewhat why they're in this situation to begin with

chilly tartan
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lol

raw cairn
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I'd get the clip if I gave a shit but I laughed out loud when I watched it.

peak smelt
raw cairn
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the spring style it had only worked for the open close method intended, but just sort of bent if pushed from side to side

peak smelt