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I think they just put you in the original wave but not the same position
that is so sad
i hope
But kinda crazy how a 6 day difference lead to a month delay
All the wave 1 bags are chilling in the port right?
I think so
So I read this as they was cancelling wave 1 and going straight to wave 2 lol don't read when you just woke up
6 Week. Not day
if they come out with a “trust me bro shipping” shirt i’ll flip. and i’m not sure if i mean that in the love it or hate it way
technically its not ltts fault the port went on strike
yeah i know. i’m just saying it would be low key hilarious. but best to keep controversy down
linus has never been controversial ever, why start now
/s
Oh I did actually get the E-mail. It was marked as spam by Gmail
put the creators logos on the creator edition screwdriver
Nice!
2 more to go.
No idea who will get yellow, but I'm hoping Jerry rigs gets light blue
I wish they'd sell the white one
DHL plzz 😭
fr just say “part of wave 1” cuz i saw some really late order people with backpacks in hand on reddit
It’s honestly as if they matched up the “xxxx of 9500” backpacks with the people who ordered the xxxx’th backpack
I got 2299/9700 and I was in the first 1500 shipped, so not sure that lines up.
Meanwhile I'm from New Zealand and it's using a swiss airline
bruh what
@peak halo
No clue. I assume they didn’t pack the containers in any particular order.
Thank tech tip man
roughly i am 1200 orders into Wave 1 for screw driver do we know yet when they will start shipping wave 1?
By oct 20th so still got a while
Andif you wanted to get a feel on when that wave will start. Notice each wave is like 10 days.
At this point screwdriver wave 1 and backpack wave 1 ship out at the same time in 2 different orders...
Yeah, that box is a chonky boy with lots of air pillows
The number on the box seems to match up with the manufacturing, not the delivery
@chaschuky999 @linusgsebastian I honestly don't know... I assume they may have marked the boxes during assembly or something and just grabbed at random. Sorry I can't offer more clarity there :(
"arrived Aug 4 ETA Aug 28. arrived Aug 10 ETA Sep 20" is what I was talking about. the 6 day difference in arrival lead to a month delay in the port
Im reading that table the opposite way
I’m fairly certain wave 1 arrived at the port all at once
And the containers unloaded and order are what’s holding it back
The left is the ETA. The right is the actual arrival. Notice how they're kinda scatter shot? That's the point the table is trying to get through
At least that’s how I’ve interpreted such so far
The 2 containers you mentioned have nothing to do with the delay beyond demonstrating that container unloading is quite random
I could be misreading it. But that's how I've read it
I get that. I just mean that all the containers of wave 1 I thought are on the same ship. There’s just no determining if they’re on the top or bottom, so no knowing what order they’re in.
(my posts were directly to Ryan's comment not gertraic. Just now reading Gert's)
I wouldn’t say the container loading is random. It has to do with whats on top and accessible first. The loading part before the ship was sent is the process where it’s most random
Sure sorta kinda
Point is any any case the first container may not be the first to actually leave
Correct
The contents of the first container may not be for the first orders either
There's some degree of randomness involved unfortunately. Is what it is
I’m fact it’s more likely the first container and the first units are the last to leave.
Since they would have more likely been first loaded
Yep quite often the case as first thing loaded is buried
However it does so depend on how they arrived at the Chinese port to be shipped. I doubt they were basing what containers contained product if they all arrived at the same time. Containers still have pallets in them. And the pallets would have been what was loaded so it truly is random actually
I’m going back and fourth on this lol. Just the more factors I think of make it more random as I think of them
Lol
Yep.
Again I like to remind people to think of ordering stuff with larger shipping operations involved as being like ordering at a sit down restraunt, not a drive through
You ordered first but other people may be served before you for a million different reasons you don't see
You generally will be served sooner if you order sooner though. Just don't get grumpy if someone later gets theirs first for whatever reason
Real pre-order moment
It sucks, but welcome to 202x. I've had weeks of delays for m.2 ssd backorders from amazon too, on established products that just sold out. you hope they're accurate and built in enough buffer time, but any date they give is advertised as an estimate.
Yep. And there's been a lot of shipping snd production issues world wide
Some microcontrollers I was using before have been on back order for over a year now
not necessarily on DHL, usually a shipment is registered way before it's sent, and when it's actually handed in, it might be some delay too - so who even knows what the actual status ever is
here is mine for reference
I'm guessing sometime by tomorrow it'll be updated
well im in Sweden so who knows
Mines still a month after shipping
Norway here 😛
did they say they were emailing wave 1 people who hadnt shipped yet about the delay?
Wooop
i remember linus mentioning it in wan show but i never got an email
Can I ask what's Norway unique for
@bitter ravine yes. I got my email last night
My screwdriver is wave 5 😅
Hey everyone,
Unfortunately, we have to share some bad news today. Due to a large number of port delays in Vancouver we are going to miss the September 20 ship date for the remainder of wave 1 backpacks.
We're just as disappointed as anyone to deliver this news. At this point, all we can offer is total transparency on what has happened so far. Shipping delays are familiar in our business, and we allocated what felt like an appropriate buffer for those expected delays - our first shipment of backpacks was supposed to arrive by August 28, and we felt that 3 weeks (plus a few days to ship the backpacks out from our warehouse) would be enough to cover any standard delay, given current market conditions. Unfortunately, 3 weeks was not enough in this case as we're seeing delays of over 6 weeks on this first shipment of backpacks. Here is the series of updates we've received from our shipper over the last few months:
Port appointments and updates can be somewhat random in this industry, so we were hoping that adjustments to other shipments would cause backpacks which were meant for subsequent waves to arrive prior to this group, which would then be used to fill wave 1 orders. We have received 2 containers of backpacks so far (which have been shipped out to the first 3,000 wave 1 customers), but we're still waiting on the bulk of these shipments as all active vessels are experiencing port delays.
As more containers arrive, you will still be the first shipments out the door from our warehouse. Holding your place in line here will still be the fastest way to get your LTT backpack. Based on current estimates, we expect to have all wave 1 backpacks shipped out in early October, assuming that currently posted delivery schedules hold up.
We sincerely apologize for the delay here, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working to expedite the process on our side.
Someone posted the full email earlier. Basically sorry, we did everything we could, but ports are screwed and we'll get it to you as soon as we possible can but that might be early october.
Or theres a fresh transcript.
Some people did find the email in their junk filters so check there.
I likely won’t receive that email because my order was “edited” into wave 1
Might be a slow rollout of the emails too. Although theres nothing person specific in there so as long as you know the state of things it doesnt really matter.
ye
tbf i also didnt get an email when the backpack actually dropped even tho i signed up, thats y im like 7000...
i know they have my email right tho cause its my account login for the store site
Thanks ltt store for not putting my clearly labeled apt number on my deliver to
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ This is some amateur sh*t
Aww I was looking forward to this sept 20th ship date but completely understand with the way that logistics is currently, delays are quite common
My tmb warranty shirt just randomly showed up today I never even got a shipping notification
Bummed they sold those for such a short time
Wouldve been funny to get along with a screwdriver
yikes cant wait to see how they try to figure out shipping to my college dorm
same
my dorm has a dedicated package area
so you just ship to that address and then they email you if a package with your name on it arrives
mine too, but if they dont put a number on it then it might be a massive pain in the ass
ah
hax
im in Wave 1 on backpack and screwdriver and got no emails about that
Do u know roughly where in the wave u are
Cause I think like 1/3 were able to ship
how do i know ?
Uh
Someone posted a while back about what your order # corresponds to but idr rn
When you went to pre order, it probably said something like “2300 in wave 1”
Do you remember something like that
I reccomend not sharing your exact number for order #’s in general
well then
I was around 33.5k order #, so you around like 5500 inside the wave
hmm
wave1 is aprox. 326xxx - 336xxx
so wave 2 aprox 336xxx - 346xxx
Credit: majorgiant#6969
lol
whoops I should've prob pinged @vale birch
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Unfortunately, I don't think Marques knows how to use a ratchet screwdriver
Finally
I just bought two of those. I'm pretty excited.
It's been 12 days since my order with "3-9 day shipping" was made and it's still "unfulfilled" what do I do
What did it have in it?
Water bottle won’t ship until screwdriver ships with it
oh
waterbottle will ship with the screwdriver, backpack will be its own thing
How do I know which wave of backpack and screwdriver I am
You’re wave 3 of backpack most likely
From the order number
Considering the order contains both a backpack and screwdriver
It’s on the product pages I believe
10 days vs 20
I got in at the beginning of 2 I believe
I am either end 2 or really early 3
And port delays are less likely to affect screwdriver since it’s mostly manufactured in Canada
I'm really early 4 for screwdriver
Considering the time they’ve given, I might expect screwdriver waves to start shipping a few days early each
The date they’ve given is I believe when they plan on having every order shipped for that wave. And considering each wave is 15k units it probably means they’re planning on shipping 1500 a day or something akin to that
If they were doing consistent daily shipments
Just because that’s a ton of orders to process for any shipping department
Especially combining screwdrivers with other pieces of orders unless they’ve done that ahead of time which is entirely possible and probably likely.
Because just to think. If they were shipping a consistent 1500 a day, 8 hour work days, but including weekends as working days, that’d be a driver packed and ready to ship every 20 seconds.
That’s over a 10 day span
I fully expect screwdrivers to start shipping early
Because remember, while these are drivers alone they’ve still got other orders to send out in that time too. And pair a screwdriver with incomplete orders they’ve had sitting about
Shipping is going to be very very busy over that time span for them
Mkbhd screwdriver same as Jay's 2 cents by the looks of it
hard to tell with color differences but they look pretty similar
yeah lmao
I clicked thru the vid it was p funny watching him 2 hand spin the driver and never use the ratchets
He uses it /once/ at 12:30... boggles
Question, Linus has mentioned backpack V2 will have a different mechanism for the lounge strap. Will this version be released next year?
don’t think it’s working on any official timing yet
Gotta sell another 16k before a v2 lool
yea, i doubt it would have any timeframe. I think Linus said that the bag was made for what he wants and he is happy for now and the development timeframe for any revisions are probably going to be long as well.
Also I dont think they 'need or want' to sell out of them completely, its something they have said they want to hold in stock long term (Also said they were happy with the current sale rate)
466 screwdriver left in wave 6
It's really no where close to coming . It's just a thought right now
Has anybody had any luck cleaning their large desk pads? Do you just hand wash it in the tub with dish soap?
i dont own a ltt one but with mine i just put it in the tub, i have my shower over my bath so used the shower head to rinse it down. i didnt use soap there wasnt much need to
Due to a recent increase in people washing RGB pads this way... THIS VIDEO IS FOR STANDARD CLOTH PADS ONLY. Do not wash anything that has electrical components like this.
Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions last time. I'll do an update video if there's a better way at some stage, or if this method turns out to cause problems... so far so go...
anything new guys?:
381 screwdrivers remaining in wave 6
It has arrived!
Shit
backpack
Noice
When mine ships it will take a month to get to me
Comes with 2 free LTT air pillows
Can't wait to get mine stupid strike
do u own an sffpc 🙂
No, but if I did, it could probably fit in the backpack 😁
What's a sffpc?
small compoter
I have yet to see anyone put their case in a ltt bag
Which is the sole reason i want the bag lmao
sff = small form factor
When you're the IT, photographer, & game supplier of the family going to visit the folks for the weekend.
We'll see how it all fits + clothes
The laptop JUST fits into the laptop sleeve.
A second bag is agood option
Yeah, a clothes bag will be need, but the backpack is way better than the laptop briefcase thing I was trying to jam everything in before
Honestly the main things I'd expect to be trouble is the headset and controll3rs
Everything else likely will be comfy. Visually guessing anyway
Yeah, I'm not sure the best was to fit the Quest yet
thank you. then yeah in in wave 1
Easily fits all that. Not much room left for clothes & toiletries though, but really good for all my tech.
Packing tip for the Quest
Since someone was asking earlier, do you happen to have an SFF computer / case you can try shoving in there?
No, I have an ancient monster of a desktop tower
Noice
Give it a go
For science
Honestly, if anyone has something like an Xbox series x on hand, that's a pretty good analogue for an SFF case
A note on the back compartment. If you have the max size laptop in there plus a tablet /w a case on it, the back zipper is hard to close. I took the tablet out of the sleeve. The 3 back sleeves really can only hold 1 laptop or three thinner tablets/notebooks. There's not much play in the sleeves
The feel on your back when wearing the backpack is ***so good! ***
I've had camping packs that don't feel this good
Lol, the tower is bigger than the backpack. It could fit 3 3090s... maybe the backpack can fit in the PC 😆
Was thinking the same thing. PC tower shipping box.
Thatll be a bulging fit if it does fit
So that laptop pocket
it has that accordion to open up more, but you cant actually fit anything in there that bulges right
since its more of a hinge than a big pocket?
im surprised that rear-most pocket doesnt have much give
it looks like a screwdriver would make the back bulge out
Not sure how to explain or show. The sleeves have give and play, but not at the sides with a full size laptop pushing against the outside edge
Notice the tightness of the zipper in the second image and where I'm pointing, it's really tight
What laptop you got
it's not because of the thickness i believe. it's due to the width barley fitting
ASUS ROG Scar 17
Just seen mkbhd is giving away his creators edition screwdriver
(Just watched the video I'm super behind rn)
the width is putting tension on the edges and that's pulling the rest of the sleeves tight and the zipper
This may be a non-issue for anything <17"
I may just put the laptop in the main compartment and not in the sleeve and put the tablet in the sleeves.
tbf they did say for 17 inch YMMV, but maybe woulda made sense to have some more give
Good thing about the laptop I want
One of the senior team members has one so I can test fit before I buy
17" fit VERY tight.
I have one of those 12” MacBooks so it’d be easy enough to store it even in its padded sleeve
14 inch lenovo thinkpad i hope will fit just fine
absolutely!
really waiting to get mine to see how it can handle a sff pc
would be sick if it has enough room for me to fit all my LAN shit besides monitor
It's got play in the thickness, it's just the width is the limiting factor in this situation
because of the width pulling the smaller sleeves tight, It felt iffy to put the tablet in the sleeve in front of the laptop. Was putting more pressure on the laptop than I'd like. But again <17" should be fine
yup... put my usb-c charging cables in there
maybe one day i get my bag too 
this pic makes SFF case look promising
yeah, the front compartment is very roomy
I’ll have to pay for onward shipping of my bag at this rate. Got screwed over
can you get them to change the addr?
Justice for jc
Changing the address is what lost me my place in line
yea
Not buying the bag a third time just to change it back
The quest & water bottle fit with tons of room
imma be one of these last mofos to get the bag lol, end of wave 2 cos i got a addr change
hmmmmmmmm
Looks like my case could fit in there pretty tightly
Honestly think it's unfair that jc doesn't get his wave 1 backpack
I don't rly know his story
He should stay in the same wave shouldn't he?
But probably get moved to the back from what I've heard
This is the story
Oh that sucks
want to clarify... the 17" width of a laptop isn't the limiting factor of that laptop sleeve. I should have said the depth is the limiting factor. The laptop I have is 11" deep and is causing the stress. Just fyi.
Ok
Any Plans on the ltt backpack PC Video?
Aka a itx case (test) that fits inside the backpack for Transport.
Probably will regret my case choice for my upcomming nr200p lc build if they make such a Video...
Im curious to see how it works for me. my laptop is a little under 11 so probably not an issue. but i carry 2 laptops currently. 1 school and 1 work and with my situation i transport both everywhere.
Good chance the seccond goes in the bulk pocket with notebooks and such. thats more or less what im currently doing
Yeah, you'll probably have to put 1 in the main compartment and 1 in the sleeve, but the one in the sleeve should fit fine if <11"
Holy cow that 64oz water bottle looks massive
Honestly as long as you don't have the other pouches bulging to the brim and you make sure to cover the sharp corners, your case should be fine.
Sadly, even kevlar can wear away over time, so I'd definitely just keep the sharp corners either covered or maybe look into a bag that can fit over the sff for travel. (Hides it from prying eyes, too.) Kinda like a travel pouch with strings that slips over. Nothing fancy.
Yeahh you really wouldn't want to put one of those sharp cnc metal cases right in there
I should look for some kind of bag like what my dt 700 pro x came in
Idk what the material is, a pretty thick foamy sort of bag
i wouldn't put anything sharp in it without protection. The back section is all canvas material, which is pretty tough, but the roomier front section that would fit a sff has a silkier material on the front that would probably rip easier
dimensions hopefully help @chilly tartan
np
My case will fit but actually tighter than I thought. The important axis is 5.2 inches in my case, looks like the bag is roughly 5 inches ish, with some squish I'm sure it'll fit
yeah, it could probably go to 6" if you don't have anything stiff in the back compartment or front pocket. I have that repair case in the front and battery pack in the back so was stiff
I cant even put in text the excitment i have for the backpack. mine is large and fits for the most part, but not in a way that i want it. also not the most comfortable or sturdy
im at like end of W2, but that likely means it ships within 2 weeks or so
I'd be careful thinking it'll be shipped on time
Wave 1 is severely delayed its not clear if the port issues will be worked out by the time wave 2 is arriving (if wave 2 isn't already arriving)
Dang, i didnt hear about any delays. i heard of the initial issues they had, but they also said everything would still ship on time cause they had a little wiggle room in
Unfortunately they blew past the buffer they had. Wave 1 is expected to be out the door early Oct. They didn't comment on later wave
Same, unfortunately
Sad, i want it soo bad lol
maybe screwdriver is doing better, if so at this rate ill get that first
oct.10 vs 20
but if 10 is at delay and 20 is early. you never know
My other half asked me what do I want for Christmas I said go halves with on an LTT bag, she didn't say no. I was shocked
Look into a neoprene cover. You can get them sized exactly for your case then just slip it right in and not only is it padded slightly, but then it won't hurt the bag interior
I have an NR200 I'm 99 % sure it won't fit
I'm too lazy to unplug all of my shit to try it though
Booo
Nr200 7 inches wide, no way
Kinda boxy imo
very boxer
oh yea that must be what my headphones carrying bag is made of
Where would i get a custom sized neoprene sleeve? I could always learn to sew, lmao.
Wonder how many backpacks fit on a pallet
Can't be that many
How many backpacks can fit in a backpack. 🤔
Just google how many pallets fit in a shipping container
Then divide number of backpacks by pallets
Is it exactly 1500 per container or do u figure they keep some extras for warranty stuff
Idk if theyy're using stacked pallets or extra tall pallets
I think it’s exactly 1500 per container, they withheld some from their air shipment for warranties, they don’t expect to need very many
Whos supposed to be britain here? 
The choice of spelling on the backpack box
I blame Britain for any countries that they taught the wrong form of english
only thing britons do right is defence
I’m thinking of getting a water bottle. Recommendations on size? I need to drink more water
I have both the small and medium, ive found myself using the smaller one more often but I have water refill stations everywhere. If I was out the whole day then medium one
I like the medium one for me I only fill it to 1-2 times a day. The newer bigger size seems that it would weight a lot when its full, but it depends on your use.
I think the new chungus water bottle should come in a blue bottle with white lettering... just saying. 😉
Sorry, been gone all day. Your best bet is to either find a local seamster or check Etsy. The latter shouldn't be too hard, as a lot of people who call neoprene covers will accept custom orders. But if you want to do it yourself, look up "scuba fabric" (or neoprene scuba, neoprene fabric, etc.). It comes with the light fabric cover over the neoprene, which you want for easy sliding.
It's not too expensive. Like $5 or so a yard. But good luck!
thankx
I just got my RGB hoodie and I'm in love
Buckpuck
My under $150 order eu vat payment thing (IOSS) seems to have failed, at least I got a pre offer from postal services to declare to customs for me 😦
Just sucks that I wouldn’t have to do that if they provided us with the IOSS number which they don’t
Isn’t it an issue with Shopify and shopifys integration with different customs offices since that’s how their payments are handled?
As in not an LTT issue directly
Customs for countries aren't necessarily all that transparent
And can vary wildly country to country
Even shipment to shipment regulations may change or the person processing he paperwork is just grumpy that day and says no
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I haven't had that many IOSS issues either, like my post office tracking will usually show customs already paid well ahead of the package actually getting here, I did have a problem with one Amazon order shipped from Jersey but the seller gave me IOSS number so I was able to provide customs with that and the process worked like normal and I didn't have to pay anything extra
Pretty much everything with out system is automated but it requires the package to come with the correct information or if it's missing for some reason seller can still provide it to customer who will declare package with info and it works, sometimes I doubt anybody even sees most of the declarations
For me the shitty thing is that the Finnish Post Office will charge me extra 2,9€ handling fee for the manual declaration which I wouldn't have to pay if the system worked as intended or if I was able to provide the IOSS number
Yeah lmao he's right that thing is way oversized
pog
excellent
who has the yellow one
Light Red - Sara Dietschy - https://twitter.com/saradietschy/status/1570620445321494529
Red - JayzTwoCents - https://youtu.be/XyqGa4DZeKU
Red x2 - MKBHD - https://youtu.be/ltD4TVN9wAY
Yellow - ?
Cyan - Quinn Nelson (SnazzyLabs) - https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1568371889676120064
Light Blue - JerryRigEverything - https://youtu.be/NCe4WpoA03Q?t=120
Blue - Joel Telling (3D Printing Nerd) - https://twitter.com/joeltelling/status/1567942062359871488
Purple/Pink - Addie (EpoxVox) - https://twitter.com/EposVox/status/1569571158797737984
White - Jeff Geerling - https://twitter.com/geerlingguy/status/1567552944064630785
I am wondering if gamers nexus got a driver
Perhaps it’s a case of GN didn’t ask for one? They were asking for those who would like a creator edition to ask on twitter
It is also the case that GN sort of has a competing product.
I know that much. Just trying to figure what the relationship between the two is right now.
Dunno
I'd bet Steve never asked for one, I'm sure they would have sent one if he asked. The yellow one does intrigue me though. Assuming it's yellow for the creator color
I’m wondering though if it’s because they’re reviewers and so receiving a driver could skew the approach they’ve been trying to take as LTT being like any other company. If it’s due to the recent warranty fuffle.
I guess I'm confused at the concept of ppl asking for creator editions
I assumed ltt picked out ppl they liked, and asked them if they want one
Do we rly think sara dietschy asked for an ltt creator edition driver
I strongly suspect GN got a screwdriver in at least some capacity, even if it wasnt a special creator edition if he didnt want one. The decision to treat LTT like a company rather than a tech pal was a professional decision, and not some sign of personal beef between steve and Linus. Even in the unlikely event there was beef, linus would not want to deal with public drama around denying GN a CE screwdriver.
Linus and sara were recently in chats cuz of the lab naming thing, so screwdrover could easily have come up.
They've done video before haven't they
I don’t think it has to do with personal beef at all. More about audience perception.
So I'm not surprised she got one. But I find it hard to believe that creators went and basically applied for a driver
If audience seeing them as having a creator one skews the potential relationship in the eyes of the audience right after Steve would say they’d take a less biased approach following the warranty discussion
Also considering they sort of have a competing product. So featuring LTTs driver on the channel would be odd
Or it being a factor of the two
Aye, which is why it might make sense GN if didnt want a CE driver. Theres just the other half of the audience who sees "no gn edition?! Ltt and gn are at war, all the other big tech tubers got one!!" So its hard to win.

I am thinking it would lead to that perception yes. I don’t think it has anything to do with that, but the factors leading up to this certainly can cause people to see it like that.
They probably bought one anonymously because they dont trust these fast tracked ones to not be hand picked or something.
Or just didn't feel like asking for a special one? As that doesn't really do anything for them
Well the creator ones certainly are technically hand picked
Ooh shiny we got a special one... That is a one off so we can't truly review it... That cost a fair bit to make... That may be seen as favoritism...
Just where's the benefit?
Would be a cool keepsake if you're friends or fans to a degree. But doesn't really make sense outside of that
I mean mkbhd is giving his away
But yeah his is literally sponsored, gn wouldn't do that except maybe a charity auction
No clue who that is ngl
Marques Brownlee
Wouldnt surprise me if the yellow one went to a floatplane creator
Have we heard anything about the gold controller (ABC book?) plushie Sarah had in the what phone do people have floatplane vid?
No. It's more of a quality control test. Lol
Its literally what reputable reviewers do
How?
Uhh.. ...lol
The special ones are one offs with zero relation to the general production
This
Uhh... I'm not sure you understand what one offs mean..

When you send products to review sites you 100% tripped check everything before sending it out. Most reputable reviewers buy anonymously to check the quality control.
You just said they are one offs just 1 message above lmao.
the creators are one offs
Heyoooo
i think linus said they cost a fortune compared to the gp ones
Yes that's what I said.... Why are you disagreeing?
Again I think you misread what I said before
Please slow down and reread
I'm not you're disagreeing with yourself. What
Slow down reread or stop pinging me
Lol I cant tell if this guys memeing or what
You said they're one offs and it shouldnt matter, then say they arnt one offs in the very next comment. Weirdge
Reread. Don't misquote me please
The point of a quality control check is to buy it as if you're anybody off the street. Not a review site. If you cant understand that then lmao bro idk what to do for you
what does that have to do with the creator set though?
Zero as I said. A creator edition is worthless to reviewing basically
It all stemmed off my comment where I said he probably didnt want one because he wanted to buy one anonymously to test quality control.
This guy then said CE ones are the same and it shouldnt matter. Then said they're one offs. Then said they arnt one offs.

Exactly. 🙂 thanks for agreeing with me.
Nope not what i said
Please reread and dont misquote me
Such as this comment
I dunno if this was posted here already, but the mid-blue (I still prefer to call it GN colored) one recently appreared on a JerryRig Video:
Even geratric agreed with me but you didnt understand...
Im curious if they will wear faster as the colors are untested

You didn't understand me. Go away now
Honestly it shouldnt matter. You dont tend to palm turn a ratchet driver much
That does look pretty cool
You cant tell me to leave because you cant handle the idea of testing quality control
Lmao
ngl I wish there was an official blue color. I honestly prefer it over the orange...
You open it with your sweaty oily hand a lot
Go away. You need to read better before worrying about qc
Qc your reading skills first
Also isnt the older a diff color
Yikes this guys pissed he got bashed
Highly doubt they make it but would definitely want it
Also would finally be a good quality tool that's no just pinkified garbage
it totally is the gn color :(
Thanks for the support. The guy who we were talking to raged out and blocked me after explaining how quality control testing worked.
updated to the latest peeps
maybe more colored ones went out to other creators now 🤔 since 2 red ones went out to jay and marq
ill be honest i think there is more but you wouldnt show the same red one twice
i would be surprised if dawid didnt get one, linus has talked about him a lot with respect, and hes canadian
Who is gettin the pee driver?

The plastic pieces individually cost more than a whole production screwdriver
Can't think of any yellow techtubers
I believe that’s what he said. The colored plastic bits cost as much to make as they would sell a whole screwdriver for basically
This guys weird
neither can i the closest i can think of is austin but thats orange so yaknow
Correct that was stated on wanshiw i believe
Any chance barnacules gets one maybem
Dudes kinda shifted lanes so not sure if he counts for this sorta sphere
Hmm I went to a meeting and missed a healthy chunk of keyboard warriors lol
yea kinda crazy how important scale of quantity is
You know what'd be funny? If they made two of every color xD
Technically…
I would bet they did based on how those molds came out
Probably kept the other ones for their own testing and color examination
maybe steve really did get a blue one and he put it in his personal tool box at home and looks at it fondly each night 👀
He does more than just looks at it

Oh you know he's screwing it then
it might be a shot in the dark, but had anyone order lttstore stuff from Turkey? if yes, did you experience any customs issues?
I wish the rachet clicks would say ltt store dot com as you spun the rachet
Might be Der Bauer
Would make sense why it hasn't been seen yet either since he's based in germany
Klein's tools are fantastic, enjoy!
Has there been any word on more bit options though?
PZ bits are coming but very far out as Linus didn't realise there was a demand.
hmm wait a minute
the creator drivers... there's not a green one
ohh right, because it's not a creative color
OMEGATROLL
backpack wen
backpack why
backpack to travel & put my pc in
same i hope im in the next 1500 as it takes a month to get to me
I am in the next 17000
Has anyone purchased the scrunchies? I’m seeing in some of the reviews that they don’t last at all.
This was yesterday, half of wave 7 has sold already in a day. what caused the spike? mkbhd video?
Wave 7 was only 7000
Wave 7 was supposed to be the last wave but they added more
plus reasonable for christmas tbh
but are you in the centre? and can i have a favour?
No warranty on those sry.

Just buy your own? You dont need ltt brand ones
Eeeeeeeee.
I am excited.
Now i'm curious if there are scrunchies with a warranty xD
Bottle
Ussualy scrunchies are so cheap it never matters....how much are the ltt scrunchies?
I just got my backpack
It's something coming from a got who carried a briefcase before
What?
I think he meant "from a guy who carried a breifcase before". Idk if that's an extra qualifier for how good the backpack is or what.


jerryrigeverything's and snazzylabs' screwdrivers are the same color

They also made 2 red one's so
Hey, just wondering if there are any reviews of the backpack out?
a few
I like mine so far. Pretty much as advertised.
I'm just happy I finally have some measurements telling me my sff pc will fit
Mostly I'm looking for a bag comparrison I guess. The bag looks fantastic but I don't know enough about this class of bags really to make an informed decision
Yeah, that’s fair. I just got mine because it hit my checklist in terms of keeping its form factor and quality.
Oh, and supporting what LTT is going for too. But, I’ll use it like once or twice a month. I work from home now.
I would honestly love to support LTT but I also want the best bag for my money. I've never bought based off brand without a lot of experience in the past and I am not going to start now. I've been buying Osprey backpacks for hiking and travel for years now because I have personal experience telling me they are fantastic. They don't really do a tech every day bag though. LTT is a new name in the space and if I don't do my due diligence I'll kick myself later.
If I could see it in person it would also be a different matter
It was fairly easy with the screwdriver, I saw a couple of reviews and liked what I heard and it seemed like good value if on the higher end of things.
Am slightly annoyed though by having to pay in USD though I have to say
I may have gone a little overboard with the 64oz LTT waterbottles....
bah, 410 after tax and shipping..... I wish.....
oh damn!
hello
my name is tequila
i just wanted to onow if the backpack will ship today, magic mirror on the wall.
cause like

Was the black and orange with silver shaft not available to order till now?
Email bot must have gotten confused and sent out a boat load of emails again
I got the same thing haha
I got the same thing too lol
Same
I just got a email too
They really need to sell the screwdrivers 😅
But did you know that screwdriver is now available to buy?
I also got the restock notification for the waffle long sleeve at the same time. Must have been a glitch on their side.
LOL I am pretty sure that the screwdriver can be ordered
Damn. I would’ve ordered the waffle with my driver. Will they combine orders if you ask
such an awful name lmao
Though I don’t wanna burden them with another ticket
Just to think that I’m under a month it’s looking like they’ll have sold 100k screwdrivers
Unsure if they’ll hit that metric but it’s close
im surprised they sold that many
Sorry under 2 months
Right?
When did it release again
No 1 month I’m just a dummy
bruhhh
i literally JUST got my notification email
saying the screwdriver is available
i never got an email for the backpack at all
just happened to be on
Idk why this time I got a push notif to my phone this time but Gmail didn't give me one for backpack
Not lienus fault for that but very annoying
i got notification for both and still got a screw driver one today
wheres the dude that tracked the ltt screwdriver stock
i wanna see it after jayz posted
Woo let's go
That was quick!
I'm in Canada
It's simply a Canada Post away
No needs for borders
Tbh i would have wanted the home version of the ~2l
But circuit board will do the job
I just hope that its not the same paint as the gold bottle
The fading is REALLY bad
Clip it to the outside?
I mean it should still fit in the bag. Just not the water bottle specific pouch right?
Yeah I had that today
I still don't like the idea of water filled container being inside a general purpose bag
Clip it to the outside since there's no outside pocket
When are we updating the existing lineup to 42 oz and 69 oz respectively?
Good thing nobody asked tho, so atleast theres that
I think a raspberry pi or similar sized board would fit through the opening.
Let's goooo
Itd be like those old bottles that ppl build boats in
backack
that phone hurts my eyes
Best part i use it every day
Hopefully the gold won't fade to much on the circuit water bottle
Loving these new shirt colors
I guess I am really lucky. I've had my black and gold 40oz bottle for a long time now, and it still hasn't faded.
Same.
Btw how exactly do you add a photo to a review?
I wish the indoor hoodie would restock
IIRC they had to find a new supplier for it
Oof....
@amarcucci @linusgsebastian Soon!! We're working on production now with a new supplier
Btw is there currently any shirt that's using the new fabric?
I have been avoiding any of the American Apparel
These are all OOS unfortunately :(
But I’ve been seeing reviews on random black shirt designs that mention receiving in-house shirts
Since i have your attention, just want to confirm, does the gold paint in the circuit design has the same fading issue as the gold on black design?
I’m just a mod :P
No worries lol
I am getting a replacement via support but yikes
Ouch
Mine’s still fine after.. lemme check
2 years 2 months
I think they’ve changed the ink a few times since then
V1 of the ~1l bottle lasted me until i lost it in the metro system
And that was 3 years
V2 did not last me 4 months
Welp
Hopefully circuit won't hurt me lol
🤞
If not I'll just wait for the ~2l home version
That’s a nice color combo
I'm kinda impressed that they added the old lid design with the ~2l bottle tho
..at the same price too
One thing i love with the bottles lids tbh
The indentation is the perfect size for a tile tracker
Yea got a decal on top of it
I just don't know what to do with all these stupid power warts
Vhb tape my friend sadly
Oh well
I am just waiting for someone to make a custom power supply for most retro console to make them USB-C compliant
I dropped my water bottle today and the lid broke
$11 shipping for a $6 lid 🥲
If you contact support they will likely send you a new one. Might just take some time for them to get through tickets
i had reason to contact support recently, replies were practically instant
i think the "long reply time" is just a jic thing
they are very responsive
they've been on a mega grind over the past month trying to grind through the backlog, with a separate team working on fresh stuff. Sounds like they're probably pretty much through it by now though.
this was mine with 4 months use
Yikes,
have any of you considered doing something like a clear car wrap on it to preserve the paint?
Hey screwdriver just dropped or at least I just got the email for it yesterday lol
that wasn't supposed to be sent out
That's unfortunate...the gold on black one was the one I was just about to buy
I've used the same gold and black one since v2 came out with no issues, so mileage may vary.
I definitely put my bottles through the ringer though
I'd think you'll be fine based on where the paint is worn off those, mine has wear in similar places I've dropped/bumped it.
I hike, bike, woodwork, metalwork, run, repair, snowmobile, ski, etc.
Ah okay. I may still get one then. $45 isn't that bad of a deal
Even if the design wears off
Especially given that these Hydro Flask ones are $40 WITHOUT shipping
If you're not dragging it along things I'm not sure how the type of wear they showed would happen. The only wear I have to the gold paint seems to be specific dings rather than universal fading.
I'd be curious too. My best guess would be the oils from fingers reacting with the printed design
It's crazy, I had one before the LTT bottle and it was no better quality and cost more.
I only went with Hydro Flask because it was the only brand I felt I could trust, despite the absurd price...so many others had fake metals/plastics etc after being tested
Definitely a good brand. LTT being on par for less is interesting though.
Do you think the 21oz is the way to go, or the 40oz? 40oz means I could replace these two and just carry around one water bottle a day, which sounds really nice.
But for my bike/backpack, I'd still need one of the hydroflasks because the LTT 40oz one wouldn't fit
I burn through my 40oz personally. Sounds like you'd need to keep one of the hydroflasks either way though? (either to fit in backpack/bike where the 40oz can't or to supplement the 21oz running out), so it's really six of one, half dozen of the other.
That's fair. I'll probably end up getting the 40oz then and just keeping one of my current ones in my backpack holster thing. I drink a ton of water, and going somewhere to refill it is obnoxious
Got my 64oz it’s rather large lol
Cat in shipping box for scale?
Fits in the backpack fine. Heavy but fits. Doesn’t fit in the bottle holder but it won’t go anywhere lol
Fits with steam deck too
That's a lot of water
Can confirm that the ~2l bottle had holded ice for 7h straight with water going in
I left my 40oz filled with ice over night and the lid off the other day. Ice was still frozen ~8 hours later.
I’ll usually drink 2x40oz a day. If not three. Don’t have access to good water at work so having a full 64oz for work is going to be awesome.
man the feel of a freshly cleaned LTT mousepad ❤️
Guess its time to get a new one, this one has bit the dust
did u run it over??
Bro
How the heck did you manage that?
I've crushed a bottle before while snowboarding
but not that bad
It was left on the back of the truck at work and fell off in the road, and stayed there for 6hrs till we got back from the job and thats how I found it
Gonna upgrade to the new 64oz bottle so that’ll be nice
Cargo shorts are listed on the store, they look nice.
Anyone know if the moth on the 64 oz bottle is larger than the others?
It's the same cap/lid
thats for screwdriver
Dude I’m stoked for my 64 ounce bottle to come in!
wondering if the 64oz bottle will fit in the backpack, looks like it wont
Not in the bottle pocket
The 40oz is a tight fit
Been happy with the backpack so far though
Have some minor complaints. The zippers are very stiff, but hoping those break in a bit and get smoother.
im in on the 2nd wave for backpack, can't wait. but i go through a 40oz pretty quick and i want a 64 but if it doesnt fit in the backpack i might not
right
I got the other two pockets pretty stuffed too
Going on a trip in the morning 😄
The 64oz is a chonky boy
Important to note, the 21/40oz pocket will fold up flat against the side of the bag, so keeping a 64oz in the big pocket takes up no more room than if the dedicated pocket fit it.
I'm thinking of doing a "Duplicolor Clear Top Coat Engine Enamel with Ceramic" as soon as I get mine.
how bad would it be to just get industrial sized clear heat shrink...
No idea but the clear paint I'm gonna do won't change the hand feel much unless I go super heavy. I have some 3m clear rubberized spray too but it's not the best for abrasion resistance.
I'm in the second wave for the screwdrivers, but cost me $192(£170) for 2 screwdrivers to get it here to the UK. Was going to order the backpack but no way I can justify $360(£332) for a backpack, shame really as I really would like to buy quite a few bits from the store.
https://youtu.be/laqpfQ8-jFI?t=786 Missed opportunity!
It's easy to consider Quantum Computing very far away, but in reality there are millions upon billions of quantum circuits being run every single day on Quantum Computers readily available in the cloud. You can sign up today to access one. But what really is the goal here? IBM Research invited me to their Quantum research facilities in New York ...
my trust me bro tshirt will be here this week yaaay
I spotted one in the wild yesterday
I've never seen LTT mercy in the wild before
I have never ever seen any ltt merch in the uk at all just me rocking it
Been to Sheffield, Leeds, Bradford, Halifax, nothing
i mean go to like a tech/video game conference for consumers you will probably see some people rock it
went to a video game conference here in BE and saw a few peeps with it
Nope nobody, when I worked in fast food people thought the swacket was weird cuz it has reflectors on it
Plus I don't really go to conventions, last few I went to was super boring, not dissing anyone's likes or anything just never got into them tbh
backapck
Has anyone gotten a response back after sending in their info for the replacement screwdriver?
No idea
I've got a few friends who were also there, and got no response so I'm wondering if thats the same across the board
They are backlogged to fuck and the popup screwdriver shop will make it worse too
Ngl they need more customer support employees that also do other stuff after sorting through the backlog
Does anyone know if wave 2 backpacks is now underway since wave 1 ended on the 20th or is there still delays
And if there are delays at port do we know which port?
How could they have screwed up the timings so badly
What port is it?
Idk I have no idea I just saw the news report that was shared
I think it's only rachets that come from china
Most manufacturing is done in Canada
Ah
Yes so idk how the rachets are being shipped
I was looking up the messages and the boxes used to display number x of 9700 but someone sent a photo of x of 10000
OK so all the shipments are coming out of order
So some of the wave 2 are coming before the wave 1 backpacks
Rachets are sent via plane
No boat, no port, no delays
Got my bit holders printed all ready for when my driver ships to me, hopefully in time for Christmas
Dam I like the LTT logo
That's sick
gimme yo numba
How do you figure this? I have 8175 of 9700 in wave 1
Had mine for 2 weeks now
Surely they wouldn't ship that far out of order. If they're rationing shipments like that, there'd be no point in ordering early to get in wave 1 vs wave 2, etc. if they ship out of order anyway
Love that idea. Might do that if I order a 64oz one, but the problem is I use that pocket for my iFixit kit and tape measure and other such goodies
The number in your box was the number that it was made, not the number that has been shipped
The backpacks are loaded on to the ship in an unpredictable order. And then unloaded in an unpredictable order. The number on the box is for the backpack manufactured at the factory. Not when it was shipped
Fair enough
All of wave one was on a single ship basically, and unloading is slow and unpredictable. They have said that when pallets for wave 2 arrived they’d fulfill wave 1 before 2
port of Vancouver, also its been mentioned its been one of the worst ports in the world over the past year or 2 (which they tried to account for).
If i buy something now, will it combine with my (not yet shipped) screwdriver and save money on shipping (vs waiting till later on?)
prob ships separately
They’re being air shipped
What about this bit holder?
anyone gotten their 64oz water bottle yet
When you find a use for grandma's old denchers 😂😂😂😂
Let me know how it be, I might get one for summer
Thanks, its a remix of a remix of that one you posted
anyone out there got the 69th backpack? I mean no reason, just think it's a really nice number
it is two digits long and the numbers look nice too
i want the backpack but i have one problem. How large and how heavy is the package?
product page has this
Thanks, that seems to describe the backpáck. Not the box it comes in. I need to know the size and weight on the shipping so i can get the total cost. I use a currier that is 1000% cheaper and safer than LTT direct shipping to my neck of the woods, so i need the shipping package dimensions and weight.
looks like box is 2.5kg #lttstore message
Is that a forwarding service?
yes, for central america mail is never getting here. It gets stolen in the way very often so its best to use a currier. Also mail adress is not required. Home adress is not the same as mail adress here.
I may want to use one for my address too, which do you use?
Its a local service that uses DHL for shipping. rates are in weight and package dimensions, i very much doubt its active outside my country as its a very small place with a single location in the capital.
Cool
Anyone taken the LTT BP on a flight yet? I have my doubts on it fitting under the seat without a decent amount of smushing
I was first 100 orders and have mine.
Hello,
is there anybody with LTT backpack willing to share some tips?
I am most curious on how you solved your straps from dangling. As I am really slim...I have those straps pretty long around my waist. Thankfully the design and placement of them makes it stay from my hands when walking and it's not even visible all that much (especially as I wear darker shades).
But still. I am coming from XD Design backpack(s) and those had like a elastic ring:
Nothing to solve its the same as my other backpacks 6” of excess. You could just use a hair tie or something to make it similar to your photo though.
I was hoping that I missed some hole where you can put the excess.
So far...velcro is a great solution if you can't find elastic loop or make one yourself.
Out of curiosity can the 64oz water bottles fit inside the backpack bottle holder?
Nope, the 40oz is a tight fit already. But it will fit in the main pocket just fine.
Maybe even a zip tie from
store.com
Packing for a work trip and funny enough i think the backpack is a tad to small
I know they have those pockets for laptops, but my macbook and gaming notebook (16 inch and 15.6 inch) wont fit at the same time
And it def wont fit 17 inch if its thick
To fix this in a future revision, if those sleeves were a bit bigger, that would help a lot
they never said itll fit a big 17 incher to be fair
My 15 wont fit with another
but i think it would have been better if it can fit multiple 15 inchers at least
And it bearlu fits
It can fit 2 macbooks with ease
But only 1 gaming laptop
Ill write a review after trip
Hmm maybe my 15 inch took that a bit liberally
Its bigger than the 16 inch macbook
It still works with some effort
well i wouldnt expect nearly anything to fit in a case really
I tried without case
oh ok
Case is because no pocket
i see
I guess it is smaller
rite
So i guess just bigger
😔
I have been using for a few weeks now 
I was able to fit 2 14” and a 13” MBA but its a tight fit though. really wish the sleeves had a little more wiggle room. My current issue is the lack of small external compartments I didn’t realize how many I had on the Ogio.
What's the update on wave 1 backpack?
yeah I kinda miss the external compartments
but I did have a bunch fail on my old one
as far as im aware we still waiting on the strike to end or smthng
I hear the carabiner zippers are hot garbage, truth?
Looks to be that way. Reddit has some people claiming the carabeneer pulls are weak to lateral force!
Big sad
In looking at it, I'd probably end up just replacing with paracord in my preferred color if LTT doesn't come up with a revised pull, assuming I had one break.
Just collected Backpack 278 of 300 aparantly from the post for me, from the first wave of 1500. Hopefully this gives people an idea on the time for Aus shipping.
Think I’ll receive my backpack this week 
Does it include a note or something? Since you know which backpack number you received
just opened my box (seemed to be wrapped in patch up tape from some solid dents and rips in it but bag was not damaged). The main zips seem study on mine with no play or wiggle in them.
it says it on the side of the box haha
Oh, nice
mine just arrived, the box is 34cm x 50cm x 26cm and can confirm the 'gross weight is 2.5kg.
I have my box of swag 🎉
Box weight and dimensions https://twitter.com/nicklmg/status/1554988958169194496
Take it from Linus https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1573087120042135552
My mystery T-shirt turned out to be the old GPU one which I’m happy with
so why is the lttstoretest.myshopify.com password locked?
Looks like he doesn't have anything in the screwdriver pocket
Were they meant to be security locks? I was under the impression they were simply meant to hold the zippers together but let you feed a cord from outside the bag or something without them separating
Not for security
wait are you saying you ordered 300 backpacks??
What's going to reach my front door first, the Wave 1 LTT backpack I ordered, the 6 packs of Hydrox cookies I ordered, or the new CoD for some reason???
probably the cookies
definitely cookies
but still
those are just the icings on the cake of content that October is spoiling me with
if it's not candy, it's being a total gamer
GAMING
Probably because they’ve collected what they needed to
thats awesome because i want one DX
they just dont do xxl mystery
we got delivered on the same day twinsies
The sweatshorts are so comfy
I KNOW RIGHT
My box arrived ten days ago but I only landed in Toronto yesterday
I had both LTT and Tesco shorts on holiday, the ltt was good and comfy, pockets deep, love them both some both have flaws and good points too
oh ;-; i got mine in uk today
Weirds me out slightly that the pockets on the sweatshorts are different depths and zippers
trust me bro, components, keyswitch and the waffle im wearing to work tomorrow to try it
I’ll be wearing my RGB Hoodie to the gig tonight
noice, i want more hoodies but no need for them atm
i mean i want wan hoodie, rgb hoodie, stealth 2.0 hoodie, inside hoodie teal
Which makes sense as 2X is the most common USA size
Any backpack news
Lots… it seems
Actively monitoring this situation with the carabiner zipper pulls on our backpack. Engineering is working through some ideas for upgraded replacements (hopefully user serviceable) and I'm getting on a call with our supplier tonight. We'll have a more official update this week.
216
oh the zipper things are failing?
yeah
damn
they break easily with off-axis force
how are zippers user-servicable? could I replace them with ones I want regardless of LTT's potential replacement program?
can u take them off and put new ones on? no idea how zippers work lol
Seems like they’re hoping to have a user serviceable fix
How does that work?
No idea
If it's just the pull that needs to be replaced, that should be doable. The slider has a hook shape that holds the pull, it should be possible to remove one pull for another.
If the issue is with the slider, I'm not sure, I've never replaced one on a zipper before
cant wait for my backpack, my one atm is chaos
It's the pull thing
the latch on the carabiner pulls break
im gonna wear that T shirt into work
I cant stand the fact that he actually tried to brand "just trust me bro"
anyone asks me, ill just point to my tshirt
jej
The shirt was in poor taste, especially at that timing
But come on, it's kinda old news already
just recieved the trust me bro tshirt today XD
Good thing everybody was afforded a warranty through public outcry.

becoming evident it was very necessary lmao
better watch out of lienus dies tho, cant leave dem kids with the burden of warrantly claims
It's almost always necessary. It's just the people blinded by linus who didnt think it was.
I go to every pop up shop just to try and figure out which deodorant he uses.
I think hes an old spice user.
lol
Nah, people seems to be interested in what numbers it says on the side of the box, so that was what mine said
Like order number?
My order was within the first 1k
For that to happen I rekon they put a fair bit of effort into it or tried to hang something with it... My backpacks pulls are pretty solid with no wiggle side to side.
Think the issue is that if you look through this channel you will see the tmb is more effective than any warranty in reality (for example the gold paint on drink bottles)
Yeah I like warranties incase things are defective. I dont like relying on if som1 is feeling helpful that day.
I think somewhere between your trolling and negativity you have lost the point. But yea if that's the case of prefering a warranty there is one now so you can move along, right?
I mean you quoted me. If you think I'm trolling then why ask the question.



