lttstore

[mighty wedge]

Multiple screwdrivers for different sets of bits is the equivalent of “reloading” your gun by tossing out the one you don’t need and take out a new one

[wet ledge]

isn't that how torg guns work though? ;P

oh no that was tediore wasn't it?

[hushed sonnet]

In every video gaem it's quicker to switch weapons than reload lol

[mighty wedge]

TRUE

[wet ledge]

not mgs.

reloading is instant if you just unequip and requip. which is faster than switching. 😛

[mighty wedge]

therefore instead of getting bit holders to reload, just switch to your secondary screwdriver

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[wet ledge]

i gotchu fam.

[hushed sonnet]

This bitset is what I'm thinking about is a good solution

still clamshell but very tight

[wet ledge]

way too lacking in modularity. i can see linus being like me and wanting to maintain the modularity.

[mighty wedge]

You can probably fit screwdrivers in this

[wet ledge]

um my guy...i used to work with a guy who had a screwdriver bandoler.

[hushed sonnet]

There's a small toolbag I'm eyeing, but it feels ridiculously expensive. a clamshell bit set would not fit

[mighty wedge]

Genius

[hushed sonnet]

a clamsheel might fit looking at it actually probably, however it would take an unneeded amount of space

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ZCB5SS2/

[wet ledge]

my toolbag basically just looks like one of those old leather doctors bags with 4 huge side pockets and 2 massive end pockets then the one massive internal pocket.

[hushed sonnet]

I've got some large toolbags for my drill/impact and a mess of tools. But this little bag would be very ideal for a mobile toolkit

[wet ledge]

i tend to use it only in transpo though, once on site i just transfer everything to my cargos and toolbelt/apron combo.

basically the bag is just to make me more comfortable while riding in whatever boss i have at the time's vehicle.

[hushed sonnet]

yeah see I could never enjoy things hanging from my body when I was an apprentice. even now I don't enjoy backpacks and prefer messenger bags with handles

If I came into some money I'd likely buy that bag

Perfect mobile toolkit size

[wet ledge]

lolz so you wouldn't like something like this then? https://www.amazon.com/Custom-Leathercraft-5021-Impact-Holster/dp/B0047O3U6Q/

[hushed sonnet]

absolutely not lol

[wet ledge]

ever since my homeless days i actually prefer to just have as much of what i need on my person at any given time as possible.

[hushed sonnet]

I actually prefer that as well. but in a way that I can grab anything at a moments notice. Generally my stuff doesn't leave my side. It also just isn't hanging on me. I'm considering a backpack if they make a lighter design for me. I've liked some of those backpack/messenger combos on the market

[wet ledge]

aren't holsters and cargo pockets more "at a moments notice" than messenger backs and backpacks?

[hushed sonnet]

Technically, but when things on me are getting snagged on everything due to how I walk, and throwing off my balance they generally slow me down more than me having control of something in my hands

I've got a 14 inch gaming laptop that I carry, but actually considering replacing it as a carry device with that GPD Win Max 2 linus recently shared if I can scrape the funds

Potentially decreasing the size of my bag, but everything inside still providing all functions I want

[wet ledge]

last time i had a job site computer it was actually a pocketCHIP. 😛 been thinking about digging it out and putting it back in my kit. 😛

[pastel lichen]

Estimated delivery

Friday, September 09 by 7:00 P.M

[vivid stirrup]

Back to the uk today wooop

Hopefully the screwdriver doesn't get released hahaha

[onyx drum]

What do you mean?

[runic folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA this seems well done 🙂 dunno if posted before. 🙂 They really put the LTT screwdriver trough its paces 😄

[vivid stirrup]

This was when the screwdriver went live 8pm uk time when linus said it was going live wednesday

I was getting on a plane early hours to go on holiday

[coral raptor]

on merch messages, how does the scale work?

[onyx drum]

And the more relevant question: how many bananas do I have to buy to fit the Bee Movie script in a merch message?

[coral raptor]

ecks dee

[mint apex]

Did anyone's tracking link for the LTT Backpack update in the past 4 days? 🙂
Thanks

[peak halo]

Project Farm vid link count (in this channel): 7

[potent ocean]

This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

[peak halo]

Project Farm vid link count (in this channel): 8

[lapis coyote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

MAKE THAT NEIN

[peak halo]

Project Farm vid link count (in this channel):

[potent ocean]

Soooonnnn: https://twitter.com/geerlingguy/status/1567379771574685696

Jeff Geerling (@geerlingguy)

Video uploaded. Blog post written. Time for bed.

Tomorrow morning when they're published, that's about 4 months of effort (through a bit of a trying time, health-wise) poured into reviewing a YouTuber's screwdriver lol.

Likes

157

Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 5:10 AM

[vivid stirrup]

Another screwdriver review

[pastel lichen]

arriving on the 9th

[south horizon]

TMB shirts haven’t been printed have they?

[mint apex]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-tantrum-angry-kid-not-jealous-gif-17444307

[peak halo]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1452616-pozidriv-bits-for-ltt-screwdriver/?do=findComment&comment=15547281

[sullen frost]

Last night and this morning

[mint apex]

I am from Europe, so I'll have to wait for a plane I guess.

I don't think ships are used between US and Europe for this.

[hushed sonnet]

Oh shoot. That Jeff geerling guy is also from St. Louis

[little hemlock]

Updated chart tracking screwdriver stock (times in EDT)

[timid elk]

My bag shipped for real this time

[hushed sonnet]

Would someone have the list of people For the poll of potential people sponsored by LTT?

[royal prawn]

So I put in a ticket for my ltt store order that the wrong water bottle was delivered and I havent heard back for now over a week. My ticket number is 47611. I just wanted to see about exchanging it before the return policy is up. (Reposted here)

[halcyon horizon]

For the screwdriver, my confirmation mail say wave 4 and my order number is 414*** wave 3 on the web site, do I trust the confirmation mail or the web site ?

[timid elk]

I would guess website

Because of black shaft ones you might have ordered one then but got moved up

[peak halo]

It’s not iJustine because Linus said the YouTuber was male

[hushed sonnet]

I know that much. Also gonna take a stab and say absolutely not the slow mo guys

For one he was talking about a singular person lol

[timid elk]

I want it to be Tom Scott so bad but it’s probably not him

[peak halo]

I did not know Henry Cavill was a (popular?) YouTuber

[foggy valley]

One day we'll get that MCM collab

[hushed sonnet]

Wasn’t there something between LTT and unbox therapy in the past or am I thinking of something else

[timid elk]

Jerry rig everything maybe

[halcyon horizon]

That make sense thx

[hushed sonnet]

I doubt it would be jerryrigeverything because the audiences overlap so much and they’re trying to get new people in I feel, however it’s possible considering their collaboration

Not sure that Adam Savage takes sponsors. Unsure

[timid elk]

Doubt it’s mkbhd

[hushed sonnet]

Hacksmith would be a very interesting one with potential I feel. There’s less overlap than many of the others and it could reach wide

[timid elk]

That’s my second choice in who I want it to be

[hushed sonnet]

It’s going to be someone who regularly uses tools likely

But not necessarily building computers

[timid elk]

They said they don’t build them but might have in the past and hacksmith built the gaming pod and built one for that

[hushed sonnet]

But their focus definitely isn’t PCs

[timid elk]

Exactly

And they still deal with tech

[chilly tartan]

What the hell would ltt do with Tom Scott

[hushed sonnet]

A quick look at Tom Scott doesn’t give me the vibe that he’d build a computer with an LTT screwdriver as a spoksorship

[lime fossil]

What products use PZ?

[timid elk]

I don’t know I just would like e that colab

[lime fossil]

I have bits for it but never seen it in the wild

[chilly tartan]

He has videos where he does stuff where he's completely out of his element. But. I'm p sure he can work his way around a computer screwdriver

[hushed sonnet]

If LTT were trying to capture the tool using crowd, I gather Hacksmith is more likely

[timid elk]

Same

[hushed sonnet]

Sponsorships have to do with reaching new people, and the right people

[timid elk]

I was just saying I wanted it to be him

[hushed sonnet]

Hacksmith is my vote

Looking through them all now

[peak smelt]

from that list if they got Adam Savage to like it then that would be a pretty massive endorsement... like think of all the people not all that familiar with YT but know of Mythbusters

[chilly tartan]

There's some overlap with all of those channels ofc

[hushed sonnet]

I get that. And it would be a good sponsor. I’m just not sure Adam would take that kind of sponsorship, as I’m not familiar with him having done anything like that in the past.

[chilly tartan]

But Adam savage is way more crafty than ltts reviews and occasional crafts

[hushed sonnet]

He doesn’t strike me as the person to take that and yeah he’s much more craft

If he took a sponsor, building a PC I’m not sure would relate to his audience as much

[peak smelt]

Adam loves his tools and maker gadgets

[chilly tartan]

Veritasium seems like a pretty bad bet. All his videos are borderline documentaries

[hushed sonnet]

He does, but if he were going to take tool sponsorships, you don’t think other tool manufacturers have tried sponsoring him in the past?

I’ve not seen him take any. He may have, but I haven’t seen that precedent

[chilly tartan]

Imo best bets are jerry rig, slow mo, or smarter every day

[hushed sonnet]

None of those aside from jerry seem likely

[timid elk]

Why would you think it’s slo mo guys

[chilly tartan]

Then Adam, hacksmith, and unboxer

[hushed sonnet]

Unless it’s on the slomoguys second channel

I put Hacksmith at the top.

[timid elk]

Same

[chilly tartan]

They've done some slow mo garbage before with their framerate stuff but I think it's unlikely

Actually

Hacksmith seems like a good bet

They build pretty bonkers shit

[hushed sonnet]

Hardware unboxed seems unlikely since Linus said the person they’re sponsoring typically doesn’t focus on computers

I put smarter every day as a no

[peak smelt]

quickly looking through his channel there are a decent number of 'tool/equipment showcases/reviews' for new products, some seem sponsored

[peak halo]

Pozidriv screws are commonly used in construction and in electronics

[hushed sonnet]

I don’t recall any of his videos being sponsored. He just shows off one of his favorite tools. I watch him semiregularly

[lime fossil]

Such as? I dont see em

Or if I havei don't realize. They're normally marked with slots/ dashes right?

[peak smelt]

DJI Mics and Meta VR headsets being 2 that I saw

[chilly tartan]

Was this collab poll just a general collab

Or specifically about the driver

[peak smelt]

Sponsored collab

about the screwdriver

[chilly tartan]

Mmm ok

Well then

[hushed sonnet]

Sponsorship for someone to build a PC with the screwdriver

Specifically building a PC with an LTT screwdriver

[timid elk]

I thinks it’s probably either hacksmith or Adam savage

[chilly tartan]

Gotcha

[hushed sonnet]

I can’t see Adam savage being the one

[lime fossil]

Adam would fit the high expense I think they said it took

[hushed sonnet]

Also how Linus reacted to his name on Wan

[lime fossil]

Didn't they say it was the most expensive sponsorship yet?

[chilly tartan]

Adam seems like a weird pick but yeah it would be a wide audience

[ivory scarab]

Don't think it's Adam Savage's Tested, haven't seen any sponsors on the channel

would be cool to see tho

[hushed sonnet]

I see Hacksmith as very likely

[timid elk]

I just feel he’s really the only other option

[hushed sonnet]

I think there’s 3-4 more likely people than Adam

And considering he said it was on the list

[peak halo]

Shallower than standard Phillips/crosshead screws, with added grooves for better grip

[chilly tartan]

Hacksmith seems likely but sponsoring them to just build a pc or something seems so loser

[hushed sonnet]

It would be a Hacksmith pc

[lime fossil]

I also like how there's multiple people asking for PZ bits on the forums but no JIS what's up with that

[ivory scarab]

Hacksmith, Unbox therapy or Tom Scott are likely

[hushed sonnet]

I don’t see Adam building a PC in general. He focuses on crafts and props

[lime fossil]

Please not unbox therapy. That would be sad

[timid elk]

Definitely not Tom Scott no matter how bad I want it to be him

[hushed sonnet]

He can build a PC, but I don’t see him doing it for his audience

It’s not inbox therapy

[chilly tartan]

Imo Tom Scott would be boring and probably have more audience overlap than many of the other options

I'm sure he knows well how to build a pc

[lime fossil]

Adam and hacksmith are the least overlap likely

[ivory scarab]

the Tom Scott plus channel might be were it goes,

[hushed sonnet]

Tom Scott didn’t seem like a targeting tool users when I took a glance

[chilly tartan]

Oh yeah of course

It wouldn't go on main cancel

Channel

[hushed sonnet]

Like the point of a sponsorship is to reach an audience that Will actually use your product

[lime fossil]

I don't think it is Adam. But would like to hear his thoughts on it. Dude knows tools

[potent ocean]

all of Tom's channels are too wide in target audience, IMHO

[hushed sonnet]

My bets on Hacksmith

[peak halo]

I think Linus said the sponsored YouTuber would be using the LTT driver to build a PC, so it only fits on Tom Scott Plus if Tom’s collabing with another personality

[chilly tartan]

Tom has some random collabs on the 2nd channel for shit like blacksmithing with whatever his name is YouTube
But I still don't think it's him

[ivory scarab]

Hacksmith is probably the most likely, they could make a pc case themed around Batman or thors hammer etc and build the pc in it

[peak smelt]

I feel the way it was talked about would mean it should be on some ones main channel otherwise I don't think Linus would have said it was the most expensive one.

[chilly tartan]

True

[hushed sonnet]

If they were going after an audience, an audience that uses machined metal, a YouTuber that doesn’t regularly build PCs. But an audience that uses tools. Hacksmith

[chilly tartan]

Getting on Tom Scott's second Chanel definitely wouldn't be so expective

[peak smelt]

making a d rop proof PC case haha

[chilly tartan]

Gotta agree with hacksmith

[ivory scarab]

not sure what slow mo would be recorded when building a PC lol

[hushed sonnet]

They have a second channel where they do some equipment stuff but can’t see it being that expensive

[peak smelt]

the fire when building in an NZXT H1 ?

[potent ocean]

Alec Steel!

[lime fossil]

The explosion at the end as they break the driver

Film that slow

[chilly tartan]

Maybe they can film linus dropping the screwdriver at 40,000fps

[timid elk]

Maybe they could slow mo how the it works on the inside but that’s not what Linus said it was about

[hushed sonnet]

This didn’t sound like a direct collaboration. Sounded like a sponsorship on a main channel

[plain fern]

Channel superfun with the slowmow guys

[hushed sonnet]

What point would it be to have them on an LTT channel. They’re trying to reach a new audience with this sponsorship. This isn’t a collab

[plain fern]

They keep the camera pointed at Dennis so that they can capture the exact moment he realizes he screwed up

[peak halo]

Henry Cavill curveball

[plain fern]

Which, the next superfun is probably Linus vs Dennis wrestling

[hushed sonnet]

Linus is smart. A sponsorship has to make sense to the audience

[chilly tartan]

Who is Henry

[hushed sonnet]

Considering everything he’s said, only Hacksmith actually makes sense at this point

[peak smelt]

Superman

[ivory scarab]

A sparring match is planned for them

[peak halo]

The Man From U.N.K.L.E.

[chilly tartan]

Neither of those mean anything to me lma9

[peak smelt]

Clark Kent?

[ivory scarab]

The Witcher

[chilly tartan]

oh

like hes literally an actor

[peak halo]

The Witcher

[chilly tartan]

This alone suggests its 100% not him lmao

[peak halo]

Sherlock Holmes (in the Enola Holmes films)

[peak smelt]

yea, but him and his biceps built a PC and it was good

[ivory scarab]

an actor and a massive nerd, almost missed his audition to play superman because of a WoW raid

[chilly tartan]

😎

[peak smelt]

legit such a cool story to hear about

[ivory scarab]

and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3aBzQa6m0

[chilly tartan]

It would be funny if jerry rig everything had the sponsor and just scratched and rips it to shreds

but i also doubt that he is the sponsored guy

[hushed sonnet]

Where would his sponsorship go though

[timid elk]

Light scratches at a level 6 deeper at a level 7

[ivory scarab]

hence why very unlikely to be him, since he doesn't have a channel lol

[peak halo]

No indication of when the sponsored video was coming out

[peak smelt]

Zac will probably do that anyway at some point... would not make a good sponsored video though I feel, not really showcasing its abilities

[wet ledge]

hey i know it's not LTT merch but linus is always touting it and you just mentioned it... is the jerry rig everything knife a great buy over just keeping my standard carry gerber collapsible knife? the biggest boon i've seen is the quick change blades?

[hushed sonnet]

It’s a knife

[chilly tartan]

it just looks like a razor blade knife to me

[timid elk]

It is sold on ltt store

[potent ocean]

Why does LTT sell it?

[ivory scarab]

sold out on lttstore.com

[peak smelt]

yea normal razor blades can be used, its fairly slim compared to other foldable ones at hardware stores... I got the silver and clear ones, clear is a fair bit lighter if you care about that

[wet ledge]

find it hard to believe it'll be slimmer than the gerber knife.

[timid elk]

That looks super uncomfortable to hold

[hushed sonnet]

Knives are a bit harder to innovate on. I’d say it’s a standard utility blade merch item

[peak smelt]

I am not sure as I dont own any of that brand but its similar/ slightly slimer thickness to a Leatherman.

[wet ledge]

surprisingly not that bad.

[potent ocean]

I thought the same about screwdrivers too 🙂

[hushed sonnet]

Standard screwdrivers yeah. But ratcheting screwdrivers have a bit more that go into them. Actual moving parts

[chilly tartan]

i didnt even know there was a market for ratcheting screwdrivers

[potent ocean]

what about folding knives then?

[wet ledge]

my guy, you know a new standard in bit comes out every year right? they are only successful every 5-10 years though. 😛 i think the last major step was the posidrive though.

[hushed sonnet]

The part of the knife that moves is the hinge

[chilly tartan]

i sure know ive never thought i needed one

[peak smelt]

yea the Jerryrig knife is pretty solidly built, handle is pretty ergonomic and the button press to release the blade hold means its super fast to flip round or replace

[potent ocean]

https://twitter.com/geerlingguy/status/1567513468969914368

Jeff Geerling (@geerlingguy)

Trust me, bro: You don't want to miss this review of the @LinusTech screwdriver: https://t.co/PwiPfaeIsy #LTT #YouTube #Tools

Twitter · Sep 7, 2022, 2:01 PM

[chilly tartan]

oo

exciting

[wet ledge]

can't say i've heard of jeff geerling.

[chilly tartan]

hes cool

he does DIY server raspberry pi kind of stuff

[hushed sonnet]

I get it’s probably a decent knife if you’re using a knife all the time, but for a utility knife blades will always run out and blades are what you need most of the time

[potent ocean]

Jeff is big in the open source world, he did a bunch of Raspberry Pi and Ansible work

he's recently pivoted to YouTube

[chilly tartan]

I didnt know any of his work before utube

[wet ledge]

indeed. i've got 3 blade dispenser/disposal boxes that i work my way through at any given time. but if the jerry rig knife would be a significant upgrade i'd happily switch platforms. cause yeah the blades are a dime a dozen and the same across all knives the platform can bring something to the table.

[gaunt ice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40dncKq38s

It's out

[wet ledge]

someone just linked that. 😛

[chilly tartan]

2nd

[gaunt ice]

We should aim for at least 5 tbh

[chilly tartan]

oh good he actually did a real world ish pc build

[timid elk]

I actually bought the Amazon basics screwdriver like 2 weeks before the ltt screwdriver launched and it’s really is super surprising how not bad it is

[peak smelt]

only 4mins in but yea he is talking more about the ergonomics than Project farm so that is good.

[chilly tartan]

oh he scratches them up too

[wet ledge]

he's saying pb swiss is good? wasn't that basically across the board the worst one on Pfarm?

[chilly tartan]

I skipped thru the video but I think the only part he said was good is that it doesnt have slop in the locked position

[timid elk]

No project farm said it was the best

[wet ledge]

in all the tests it seemed like it kept messing up unless i'm really remembering wrong.

[wet ledge]

thats what i remember form pfarm too.

[chilly tartan]

jeff recommended one of the cheaper ones for the money

[timid elk]

Yeah it had the best bit locking force magnet strength and the play in the locked position

Yes he said if money doesn’t matter that the pb Swiss was the best but he recommended the ltt screwdriver for most people

[wet ledge]

jeff did or pfarm did?

[chilly tartan]

pfarm

jeff recommended either the LTT for supporting the channel or the williams for budget

[wet ledge]

i really don't remember that. he seemed to only like those 2 thigns about it.

[timid elk]

Oh sorry I thought he said pfarm

[wet ledge]

i remember at the end pfarm was saying that screwdriver came down to exact needs so he couldn' recomend any.

[little hemlock]

pb swiss had the best overall score (lower was better), but you're right that pfarm said his screwdriver rec came down to one's needs

[wet ledge]

i'mma have to rewatch cause i'm pretty sure that the pbswiss only performed well in 2 categories.

[little hemlock]

These were the results from the pfarm vid. Lower score is better

[chilly tartan]

it was only bad in back drag

[wet ledge]

it was middle of the road in most tests, my bad.

that's ont really what you'd call a solid stand out. and bit retention is like 99% of it's good score.

[timid elk]

No it’s better then average in most tests

[wet ledge]

dude. the first 4 charts it was legit in the middle of the screen.

[hushed sonnet]

What? It was the best across the board aside from one test I believe

Perhaps we’re all remembering wrong lol

[glossy phoenix]

Both PB Swiss and LTT did great, just in different categories.

[hushed sonnet]

PBSwiss backdrag was bad

[wet ledge]

ok well woops, ok it wasn't best on 1,2,3,4 but was on 5,6,7 2 of which are magnets.

[hushed sonnet]

Not ideal for tech

[glossy phoenix]

Yup exactly, I think that’s why pfarm not giving a recommendation was smart. Let you pick what categories and pricing matters to you.

[wet ledge]

in 2 of the categories the pb did ok in where it wasn't top scorer it took 3rd place, in the other 2 it took lower half... personally i'd call that a bad driver...

especially the whole weight thing, you don't realize it now but that extra weight is gonna give ALOT of wrist fatigue.

[glossy phoenix]

Everyone cares about different stuff and has different usage of the tool, that’s why pfarm tests many things and gives you the data to decide what you want. 🤷‍♂️

[wet ledge]

even with that it's hardly a "if money isn't an issue get swiss" like someone was saying above.

[glossy phoenix]

Yeah I’d agree that’s a bad assessment, but maybe they were just projecting their needs / not thinking about how diff ppl use it. Lol

[wet ledge]

the 2 things it's best in is magnets, where LTT is far cheaper and does about as good, and not being a ratcheting screwdriver.

in every other category it got handily beat by both megapro and ltt. so if money isn't a concern go ltt seems to be the real answer. (unless you REALLY REALLY need a ratcheting screwdriver that isn't a ratcheting screwdriver[maybe you want a modular one but don't like ratchet] and/or really really need uber uber strong magnets)

i'll say in my personal experience over almost 4 decades that very few people fall into those parenthasis though.

[glossy phoenix]

Personally my take was recommend Megapro to most, LTT being an upgrade option if money is no issue. Then PB Swiss you need to care about those specific areas a lot and money not be part of the equation at all.

[wet ledge]

i think nearly EVERYONE who is interested in what the pb is good at would just buy a box of fixed drivers.

oo reload time is a good category to evaluate for modular drivers.

[little hemlock]

I posted the results above, what you're saying is just not correct.
PB driver was 1st place in 3 categories, 3rd best in 2 categories and 11th best in 1 category
Overall it performed the best out of all the drivers, but also cost twice as much as the LTT driver
If you have an anti-PB bias, that's what I would complain about, that LTT is almost as good and half the cost

[wet ledge]

there were 2 categories where it scored around 11th best. i tried posting all the tests but the bot got mad.

and no i don't have an anti PB bias. i'm evaluating the categories based on how much they will impact the job site. the magnets are not significantly better than LTT enough to make it the standout best, the being best at not being a ratcheting screwdriver isn't even a valid category if you don't want a ratchet you'll use a fixed driver, weight in almost all applications is a huge deal and it's the category it did the absolute worst in. and it was below LTT in the other two categories for twice the price as you said. heck it's below megapro for 4 times the price.

[wet ledge]

i think you should rewatch te vid though cause no what i said isn't wrong. the first 2 tests it took 3rd place, the second 2 tests it took somewhere below the middle point, then it was top dog in 3 tests.

[timid elk]

No there wasn’t

[wet ledge]

if i recall it was weight with bits and weight without bits, which are disperate categories about as much as the 2 magnetic ones.

[plain fern]

personally, the PB without the bit storage would be a hard no for me

the pb with onboard storage could be interesting

[wet ledge]

my current ratcheting driver has no storage it's not the worst thing ever especially if you are rotating across more than 12 bits on the job site, but yeah there's something to be said for not having to reach into your cargos to grab your bitbox.

[plain fern]

but not sure if they made any notable sacrifices to add that

bare minimum, I want 1 philips and 1 slotted head

[wet ledge]

i'll say balance is gonna be all wonky, that loading mechanism is so weird.

the way they sit proud out of a flap i mean.

4 decades and i still can't figure out why anyone still buys flathead screws... they aren't even cheaper so it's not that. an din every metric they underperform philips, torx, pozidrive and even to a small degree robertson.

in construction sites i've worked when i've asked the boss it always seems to come down to "that's what the code calls for" >.<

[plain fern]

flathead screws only make sense when you want to match legacy appearances

the only flathead screw I want in my life, is the one I made with a dremel after I stripped the original head

[lime fossil]

Where in the code are flatheads required?

[wet ledge]

if you want to match legacy appearances couldn't you use a spanner drive so it still has that slotted aesthetic but without the risk of cam out?

[plain fern]

I'm talking about stuff like old cabinetry and crap

[wet ledge]

if i recall it was in decking. though when i was fixing my own deck i was told it was torx so that seems to have changed thankfully.

[plain fern]

mainly screws < 1.5" long

[lime fossil]

(I still need to pick some electricians brains about a really really dumb setup I need for a convention floor demo I'm making sometime)

[lime fossil]

Square was the norm for decks till torx patent came up . Haven't seen slotted in a while there

[plain fern]

oh, key benefit of slotted, really easy to clean rust / paint out of the head

I still hate them, but sometimes that issue does come up

and it is nice to just clean out the slot with a knife, or the screwdriver tip, and get to work

[lime fossil]

Cross flathead hybrid seems far better for that

[plain fern]

*and then I cam out anyways

[wet ledge]

see that's what i'm saying, i'd totally buy a spanner driven screw with a fake flathead channel(basically the spanner bit is resessed to not be as noticable) to prevent cam out. yeah i get the screws not that long...and that's the problem, i still after all these years have cam outs even on first turns...

[plain fern]

I think that for flatheads, what I really need is an impact screwdriver

[wet ledge]

where you at? in midwest US it was flathead>torx never robertson.

[plain fern]

the manual kind

[lime fossil]

US south and east primarily

[plain fern]

take your time, line up the head perfectly, and get that one good whap in to break the screw loose

[lime fossil]

Didn't check decks too many other places lol

[wet ledge]

honestly the only place i eversaw robertson here in south dakota was in some cabinets in a moble home i was living in.

[lime fossil]

I've only ever seen em used in decks or drywall

[wet ledge]

and annoyingly none of the hardware stores back then carried robertson so i had to order it from a specialty website.

[plain fern]

the krieg pocket hole kits use robertson

pretty popular

[lime fossil]

Those don't exist

You just borrow a buddies buddies copy made from one

[wet ledge]

nah not pocket hinges. it was like vintage style exposed hinges. 😛

[lime fossil]

You only need 1 pocket hole jig to make another good one

And once you have that... Just yeah lol

[wet ledge]

honestly i have never done pocket hinges...if i get into an owning situation though i'm planning to do alot of hidden hardware, pocket hinges, strait up blind pocket doors. 😛

[plain fern]

but they sell their screws and bits separately, and even saving money on their overpriced plastic jigs, still some benefit to using their consumeables

[vivid stirrup]

Back in the uk on unlimited data about time

[little hemlock]

The image I posted is literally from the video
Here's the timestamp: https://youtu.be/845HUaWYSQA?t=1254

[onyx drum]

does ltt sell stress cubes

[wet ledge]

... and the stuff i posted is LITTERALLY from the video too. I'm not just fast forwardign to the part with arbitrary weighted scores that back up my example but the actual data graphs from earlier.

[little hemlock]

The categories, as defined by pfarm himself, are expressed in that table
In a single category he said the driver was 11th
Stop denying reality

[wet ledge]

i'm honestly done entertaining you, you've spent the last half hour with nothing to say but 1 second of a multi minute video ignoring the rest of the video entirely and calling me an outright liar for citing the rest of the video.

[little hemlock]

I'm done arguing with someone who refuses to be wrong even when shown irrefutable evidence that they are wrong

Blocked

[wet ledge]

not all the earlier charts got colated into that. watch it again.

[royal prawn]

thank you!

[timid elk]

He didn’t count the wait as a category

I agree that it should have been and it would have lowered the score of that driver

[wet ledge]

during testing he did, when he colated teh data at the end he didn't. which is actually just odd since weight is actually going to be one of the things that will impact your enjoyment of a tool the most.

just because you don't put it on the final chart doesn't make it "not a category" that's all i was trying to expess to mr blocky mcblockerson. that if you actually watch the whole video the driver performed worse than it did in the final chart.

judging the whole video by the final weighted chart is about like judging an article by the clickbait headline. i wasn't proved objectively wrong because i was taking the video in it's entirety after repeat viewings.

[timid elk]

He never meant for it to be a category he weighed it so people would know if it bothered them not for it to count in the final say of each driver

[wet ledge]

if you measure something it's a category regardless if you score it or not.

[timid elk]

Ok did you order a screwdriver

[wet ledge]

planning to when i have the free capital. finances are tighter since my wife passed.

[timid elk]

Sorry for your loss but you made you decision on what driver you liked the best in the video this whole conversation was stupid to begin with we all know that the ltt one way outperformed in the price I’m not denying that all we are saying is that the pb is not bad if your not worrying about the price

[wet ledge]

honestly while i'm getting the LTT screwdrive i wouldn't say it way outperformed by price. remember the megapro was always neck and neck with it. ultimately my reason for tipping to the LTT screwdriver are 1) supporting LMG, 2) the smaller bits and the benefits they bring, 3) that backturn force is DIALED IN. (you have no idea how annoyed i've been that when doing electronics work my ratchets have basically all been fixed drivers.)

[lime fossil]

The low back turn is a major feature to me as well

One of the most annoying things when using a racheting driver is being unable to use it a large portion of the job because it doesn't actually ratchet till it's nearly done putting it in

[rough orchid]

this... one handed putting in a router into a rack, I'm hoping that nice backforce will work well for racking gear. and supporting LTT.

which means I'm also rather excited about the magnet too. holding up big fat rack mount screws will be nice

[split marsh]

The one thing that stands out to me for the screwdriver is the short bits. Personally the screwdriver would be PERFECT for me if the bits where standard size, making the handle a little longer. To retain balance you can extend the shaft a little bit too.

At least for me, that would make it perfect for my uses

[little hemlock]

my understanding is that LTT can use standard 1/4" bits from other manufacturers
It just can only fit 6 in the handle and those bits would have to be purchased separately

[blazing wave]

Got my backpack today

It indeed holds things

Quite well

[chilly tartan]

You can use normal length bits

[ivory breach]

Still waiting on mine to shippppp

The bag

[lime fossil]

Still waiting for word on future bit sets

Or if I really should start practing my grinding

[chilly tartan]

So how is the bulkyness of it

[raw cairn]

Lemme write that down.

[golden citrus]

WHAT? it hold things?..better cancel my o-

[candid fern]

It's too big.

I honestly don't like how big it is

It's more of a travel bag than an everyday backpack .

[chilly tartan]

Thats what i suspected the whole time

[daring remnant]

Mine is waiting at home and my philosophy on the size as far as it being everyday goes is that for my job, the amount of things I need to carry around, etc. it will be perfect

[chilly tartan]

which is exactly why they might have been better off that they missed the back to school season, there would have been a lot of dissapointed 12 year old linus's with a gigantic ass backpack

i mean if ur daily driving 25+ liters worth of stuff yeah i guess it doesnt matter

[pallid vector]

How long does it take support to respond at the moment? I sent them an email over 2 weeks ago concerning an order issue then followed up last week and still haven't heard back from anyone. Not sure if there is a better way to contact besides email.

[chilly tartan]

soontm?

[daring remnant]

Soon™

I've had quite varied response times from them, from 1 business day to a couple weeks

[raw cairn]

It seriously looks like its holding tons of shit. If I was to steal a backpack, that would be the one.

[pallid vector]

Yeah, I've been cutting them some slack because of two back to back pre sales but hoping it didn't get lost in the abyss

[mild plinth]

have you guys heard of lttstore.com

[daring remnant]

All the LTT Backpack owners have become prime victims of theft

[mild plinth]

best merch ever

[daring remnant]

no

[mild plinth]

you're missing out, they recently released a screwdriver

[chilly tartan]

screw

[raw cairn]

Yeah...kind of. If I owned one I'd be extra careful, but still.

[chilly tartan]

oh yea

[raw cairn]

It's just thief bait

[daring remnant]

Glad they made that little tracker pouch ig

[mild plinth]

how is it thief bait tho

[daring remnant]

Beeg

[raw cairn]

Empty or not, it looks like its str8 filled to the brim with shit.

[mild plinth]

yeah but arent you gonna hear the "BZZZZPT"

[raw cairn]

You steal the whole bag, not the contents

You deal with the contents after you've gotten away with the bag

[daring remnant]

Grab and go, it's the perfect theft

[raw cairn]

I mean, that's how I've always seen it go down.

[daring remnant]

Even has straps to carry it

[mild plinth]

i would laugh my ass off if you grab it and steal it and you get home to find out its empty

[chilly tartan]

oh yeah, how heavy is it empty?

[mild plinth]

thats a good question

[chilly tartan]

it has a lot of material it seems like it might be heavier than a lot of other bags

[mild plinth]

cant you like squish it a little to make it look like theres less stuff in it

[chilly tartan]

I also wonder if it creases if you try to do that

[daring remnant]

3.7lbs looks like

[chilly tartan]

hm

I have no concept of how heavy that is lmao

[mild plinth]

take a gallon jug

and fill it half way

[chilly tartan]

ok so pretty heavy compared to my current much smaller, floppy bag

[daring remnant]

I'd imagine yeah

[mild plinth]

i think so yeah

my bag is like 15-20 pounds though

[daring remnant]

A foot deep is hilarious

Love it, I'm the prime target because I love grossly oversized gadgets

[chilly tartan]

I cant imagine wearing that to some busy show floor

[daring remnant]

And carrying everything with me

[chilly tartan]

shit would double my depth

[mild plinth]

my bag carries both of my laptops, both chargers, shit ton of papers, fidget toys, snacks, etc

i have the campus essential bag

[pallid vector]

I'm just happy I'll be able to put my 17" laptop in Backpack.

[mild plinth]

i have a shitty school chromebook and an actual laptop

[daring remnant]

I can't wait to stuff like 8 Chromebooks in the big pouch. Will be perfect for moving them around

[candid fern]

I put in a ticket on August 3rd, got a response August 23rd. For reference

[mild plinth]

dang my message was deleted

[daring remnant]

Was it caps ig?

[mild plinth]

yeah

[daring remnant]

I saw it disappear

[mild plinth]

did you atleast see the message? lol

[daring remnant]

Really though, you throw some battery banks in there and you could just run a computer from it

[pallid vector]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll wait a bit longer.

[mild plinth]

dude

[daring remnant]

Stupid heavy and impractical, but hilarious

[mild plinth]

entire portible computer

with 74 3080s

[candid fern]

For reference, I brought the bag to work with me today. It's way too big for a daily trip to work. All of my co workers said it looked like I had a cooler on my back lol

But I'm also traveling to Las Vegas this weekend and I plan to pack it to the brim for the weekend. Which is what I plan to use it as. A travel bag.

[daring remnant]

I said battery banks, not city sized power grid

[mild plinth]

for running crysis on max graphics

[mild plinth]

just hook it up to a power company, all good

[daring remnant]

Seems like a perfect travel bag and a terrifically overspecced day-to-day

[mild plinth]

UPS

just long enough to change plugs if you're quick

[blazing wave]

When did yours arrive?

It’s certainly large, but it’s about the same size as my old bag

Depends what your job is and what you need to bring with you every day

[raw cairn]

But now I got a 250usd bag to flip.

[daring remnant]

Mine arrived earlier today

[raw cairn]

It's honestly, probably worth more than 250usd on the open market. Because of supply issues.

[chilly tartan]

you aint flipping it for shit

if you are patient there will be 20,000 in a warehouse lmao

[blazing wave]

You could 100% sell it for more than 250 rn

[raw cairn]

U dont think som1 would cancel their order to get it shipped to them immediatly?

[blazing wave]

Not much, but cotton is right

[chilly tartan]

I very doubt that

[raw cairn]

You have a whole army of fanboys frothing for it.

[blazing wave]

People are impatient, getting it now vs getting one in two months is worth $50 to some people

[raw cairn]

I gaurantee it's an easy flip

[chilly tartan]

thats true, maybe i am underestimate how culty the ltt ppl are

[daring remnant]

Quite culty

[raw cairn]

In 3 months? Naw goodluck but right at this moment, yeah for sure

[chilly tartan]

Could you fit an sff pc case into the first/section section?

[blazing wave]

With almost every product that’s in high deman with low supply it can be flipped

[chilly tartan]

Seeing how it accordions open, but zips like normal, it looks like it'd fit but im not sure

[blazing wave]

maybe

[chilly tartan]

im actually kinda worried due to how the sections are spaced

[blazing wave]

I could try putting my sliger sm580 in there at some point lol

[candid fern]

I think last week on Friday.

[chilly tartan]

Yeah sm580 is about 2x the size of my pc

[blazing wave]

Wow yours was fast af lol

You in canadia?

[raw cairn]

[blazing wave]

I misspoke, mines a 560 not a 580

What case you use?

[candid fern]

San Diego.

[chilly tartan]

zs a4 v3.2

so your case is like 1.3x bigger

[onyx drum]

Does anyone know if they will stop making the backpack and screwdriver after each of the waves are done? Or will there be more after all the waves are sold out? Or once they’re gone they’re gone? Money is tight and I just wanna make sure of the time frame I have to get them.

[stuck torrent]

they aren't a limited time item other than the black shaft screwdrivers.

[chilly tartan]

I think they intend on keeping the products going for years

hopeful of course but thats what theyve said

[onyx drum]

Ok. I kinda figured that. But I just wanted to ask in case I missed something somewhere. Thanks!

[limber laurel]

"we plan to make hundreds of thousands if not millions of screwdrivers" was mentioned in their video when they talked about the aluminum molds

[chilly tartan]

Anyone know if an airtag will fall out of the airtag pocket is shaken upsidedown?

or even just turned upsidedown

[candid fern]

In my opinion, I don't think backpack will get enough traction for another run. Linus needs to order backpacks in 30,000 orders and I don't think the items is hot enough for him to purchase and sell without having to store them all at his facility.

Alot of the backpack sales were immediately right at launch. Since then it's been a very slow drip.

[limber laurel]

(which could also mean you could still grab a "wave 4" backpack past Christmas)

but worst case, its just a backpack- you need it just as much as you "need" a high end GPU

[candid fern]

I will happily buy the small version of backpack

If / when it comes

[chilly tartan]

Yea theyve still got 15k to go

[limber laurel]

in other news; do these people not understand they were buying a product with an expected ship date of 9/20

[chilly tartan]

still no reviews

[molten prawn]

Unfortunately it's impossible to completely idiot-proof anything.

[raw cairn]

I ordered mine a week ago and I havent even got a tracking number. Dog company.

[limber laurel]

heres your tracking number: not shipped yet

[blazing wave]

I think it almost certainly will get another production run. Keep in mind they’ve sold 25k backpacks in a month. Yes it just launched which gave a spike, but that’s still a lot of demand

[raw cairn]

Unacceptable.

[candid fern]

Yeeahh idk about that

It's not like a hoodie or a sweater

30,000 backpacks is alot especially if they sell like 50/day

[blazing wave]

I haven’t kept track, but how many have they been selling per day lately?

I was also under the impression minimum order quantity was 10k

[candid fern]

Like 50/day roughly

[chilly tartan]

Yeah wait

[blazing wave]

I’m pretty sure for backpack the orders are 10k

That’s why each wave is 10k

[chilly tartan]

Even if they can do order of 10k

How are they going to warehouse 10k at a time

of those gigantic ass boxes

[blazing wave]

They’d probably put the containers outside?

[peak halo]

Each 10k backpack order is also a “seven-figure bet”

[blazing wave]

It is, but if they’re selling 50 a day, that’s still near 20k a year

[molten prawn]

I'd expect them to be more likely to expand creator warehouse such that they can store more product, rather than abandon the work they did to bring it to market after they sell out. I can't imagine they'd stock more than the 10k minimum order quantity though.

[chilly tartan]

stocking more than 10k when you already hold 200 days worth of stock obvi no

[blazing wave]

I’d be very very surprised if they didn’t order more backpacks down the line

They already invested all the money for R&D

Now it’s when they get their return

[daring remnant]

So I don't even have my work gear on hand but I've already filled most of the backpack

[worthy prawn]

I think Shopify got a little bit confused. Says my backpack went to Australia and back in just a few hours 😆

[vestal kiln]

I can't lie, $250 for a backpack is a bit daft, but alas you are paying for the brand name

[daring remnant]

Very true

[vestal kiln]

I've used the same £50 backpack for 15 years, still going strong

[daring remnant]

How scrutinizing should I be of the reeeeeally fine details?

[vestal kiln]

Very, you paid $250 for it

[molten prawn]

I legit just saw the same thing on twitter. If that's not you too what a coincidence lmao https://twitter.com/JLichtefeld/status/1567531251086540800

[vestal kiln]

If I paid $250 for a backpack I'd expect everything to be damn near perfect

[worthy prawn]

Nah that’s not me 😅

[daring remnant]

I've had it for only a couple minutes and the finish on the zippers is coming off?

Was this mentioned at all

I know they changed the color because of possible wear, but this is a bit dumb

[vestal kiln]

Damn, I'd contact them

That's some garbage QC

[molten prawn]

WA, OR, shipping is getting very confused with the just over the border states...

[daring remnant]

And if I really wanted to nitpick, a small thread from the orange lining is poking through on the front pouch

[vestal kiln]

Shame too, those zippers are quite interesting

[molten prawn]

Definitely contact support. The finish shouldn't be wearing.

[vestal kiln]

I won't lie

If I was going to pay $250 for a backpack I'd get a victorinox

[vestal kiln]

You should be covered under warranty

[daring remnant]

Very true

[vestal kiln]

Such wear can't really be done by the user

[daring remnant]

The actual, written warranty

[vestal kiln]

If they don't honor their warranty

It's an easy call to your credit card company

Like if it was $50-100 I'd tell you pipe down, but $250 is a lot of money

If they expect to go up against premium brands, they should expect to have the same quality

[chilly tartan]

yikes

major susly

Chat filter strikes again blocking the weirdest of words

I think they respond quickly for backpack specific stuff

did for me at least

[vestal kiln]

I mean if they don't respond quickly just call your cc company and have the charge reversed

[chilly tartan]

Dropping confidence in my order day by day lmao

This chat is dangerous

[vestal kiln]

If you say "Hi I ordered a backpack and it arrived with physical defects & support isn't responding to me so they're not honouring their warranty" you'll get your money back damn near instantly

So long as you don't use some garbage cc

And well, if you buy online without using a credit card - then you're an idiot

[chilly tartan]

🤡

A lot of those financial help guys are really dumb about that

credit cards are really valuable tools as long as ur responsible enough to not go nuts with it

[vestal kiln]

It's fine, CC companies are more than happy to chargeback bs transactions

Hence why any smart company wants to honour their warranty to the best of their ability

Because if they don't, they'll just get chargebacked into oblivion

[chilly tartan]

have their runescape moment

[vestal kiln]

You won't pay fees for chargebacks

That's the whole point of paying a credit card

[chilly tartan]

I dont think its that big of a deal if LTT bans you from their store after not accepting responding to a warranty claim

[vestal kiln]

CC companies can charge such interest because consumers enjoy various protections

So long as you don't use some garbage CC company

AmEX is good from what I hear

I'm not talking about banks

I'm talking about credit cards

Different things

And who cares if the retailer bans you? It's the ltt store

It's not like it's amazon

I'd rather be banned from their store than pay $250 for a defective product, lol.

[stuck torrent]

They're [ltt support] backed up a ton right now but everyone who has eventually received a response has appeared to have come away happy, so finagling with chargebacks or whatever seems like overkill. it's my understanding they have the vets slowly chiselling through the backlog, and some extra help handling new tickets, which is why in some cases more recent things end up ansnwered before older tickets.

[vestal kiln]

Ofc, chargebacking is a last ditch resort

But if he doesn't get a response

Then absolutely do it

^

Support is usually good across the board on smaller companies like lttstore

Because they know that consumers will chargeback if support isn't helpful

Companies like Amazon don't care because they don't fear chargebacks

Nobody is going to get their Amazon account banned

[stuck torrent]

Sure, just a matter of understanding the massive backlog existing right now, and how they've got the tickets broken up. If it was a less reputable company or there was no indication as to why there was delays, seeing a more recent ticket answered or getting no response for a couple weeks might be "wth they're actively ignoring my ticket! I'm gonna chargeback them so hard they shall know my fury!", but here we have explanations.

[chilly tartan]

I just want the bag to stuff my sffpc and peripherals in 😢

[daring remnant]

And it will be absolutely perfect for that

I just think I got unlucky

[chilly tartan]

probably

[daring remnant]

I really hope so at least

Ticket is in, I've had decent experience with support in the past so we'll see how it goes

They even offered to honour the discount on the WAN Hoodie when I asked after missing it when buying the backpack (I didn't take them up on it though)

[raw cairn]

Warrranttyyyy

[ember path]

https://youtu.be/l40dncKq38s

[ivory breach]

👀

[vestal kiln]

The LTT screwdriver is nice

[keen plaza]

I look like an idiot with my Jansport. Wth is taking so long

[chilly tartan]

what for

I use a jansport at uni 🥴

[vestal kiln]

But I can't justify paying $80 for it when a PB Swiss driver costs around the same (or even less...)

[keen plaza]

It's all droopy cuz I got a giant metal water bottle sagging it down

[inner marsh]

The lack of a bit holder kills it for me. That and I don't care about bit retention, since nothing I do is going to jam a bit into a screw and get it stuck. So the LTT wins out for me.

[keen plaza]

Screwdrivers are free. Just stash them in the lumber yard so when you drive in to pick up your order they're waiting to be stuffed into your glove box

[inner marsh]

Also the one that costs the 'same' as the LTT one doesn't include any bits. The one with bits costs twice as much.

which is crazy lol

but people will buy what they want to buy and I think 95% of people had made up their mind.

when the PF video came out, there wasn't a huge surge despite the good review. people already made their decision.

[keen plaza]

Ltt screwdriver looks nice and narrow

I have a husky and it is indeed. Not great for dexterity

[inner marsh]

No gnurling, no bit holder, the difference in back force, etc. I hear a lot of 'this screwdriver for the same price' when there's so many differences between them and use cases. It's more like 'here's another screwdriver for the same price that does different things better and worse' so just buy the one that fits your needs.

And if I hear one more ranting review about Snap On I might pull my hair out. Every review I've seen in recent months, the Snap On gets beat out and the comments devolve into, "But they come to your place with a van!" lol

[chilly tartan]

Linus

[inner marsh]

Though I should add that there's nothing wrong with Snap On tools. Just that it always seems to devolve to the warranty rather than the quality or performance of the tool and /that/ part is annoying to me. In fact, I think their torque wrenches are still some of the best around.

[blazing wave]

Here’s the solution to that problem, don’t even need to contact support

[inner marsh]

lol

[vale blaze]

true

[chilly tartan]

U won't be able to cut it entirely gone

[inner marsh]

Kinda like buying a monitor where there's millions of pixels and if 1 is dead, unless you buy some extra 1 pixel warranty thing, they won't help you. Has to be at least a dozen or something before they replace it. But yeah, for something that small, I'd get some small scissors, clip it, and then tuck it. You can warranty it if it makes you feel better, though. Just seems like a lot of trouble.

[vale blaze]

yep

[hushed sonnet]

For a backpack issue like that, it just means the excess thread is wasn’t completely cut after being sewn.

[inner marsh]

If you check the reviews for their backpacks (and even Booq and others) for the same price, you'll find people sharing pics of defects they had to return for.

There's not a product on earth that's going to be 100% perfect. Hell, Tesla can't even get the lines of their body panels to match up for $80,000.

[chilly tartan]

If you bought a $1200 monitor would you be ok with a dead pixel

[inner marsh]

Of course not. But the manufacturer of the panel will give you the middle finger over 1 pixel unless they have a specific 1 pixel warranty, of which I think maybe only alienware does that?

they usually say a minimum of 5 is needed (asus) or up to a dozen.

otherwise they deny your rma

[chilly tartan]

So you're not okay with manufactured issues, but dont think they should honor returns

[inner marsh]

Though, funny story. After about 5 months, my Dell monitor... suddenly had a boot print in the screen.

[inner marsh]

I believe I said that, if they think it's worth the effort, they can certainly return it via warranty or they can clip it and tuck it. I didn't say anything about the second half of your statement there. That's your words.

[chilly tartan]

You make it sound like you don't like how monitor companies dont care about a few pixels, and ltt should follow the same guidelines

[inner marsh]

Nope, there was a topic shift when I was talking about the pixels thing. I was talking about how no product is perfect, from monitors to Teslas, and some manufacturers won't even warranty small things. That in no way says, "I don't think manufacturers should warranty small things and LTT should follow the same guidelines."

And at the start of the entire thing, I said if they think it's worth the effort, they can warranty it.

In fact, part of having things returned reveals defects and things that can be fixed for future revisions, etc., so there's nothing wrong with it. But there's also a reality that even with every alternative screwdriver and backpack that's been recommended by people instead of the LTT one, each one you can find reviews with pictures of defects and faults.

[chilly tartan]

from the perspective of a consumer who thinks $250 is a hell of a lot for a backpack, i dont care if its worth their effort, it should be expected that they handle issues like that

[inner marsh]

Tell that to Booq, Victorinox, and other expensive bookbag makers with the same issues (or worse in some cases, with massive staining issues)

[chilly tartan]

Yeah, thats exactly why I have historically bought cheap backpacks

TMB tho

[inner marsh]

sure, we expect things to be great for the amount we pay, but not everything that comes off the line will always be perfect. some things will fall through the cracks. even with HDDs and GPUs, they have expected failure rates

there's always going to be a failed percentage of any product, sadly.

from candy to cars

We've got an Asus gaming monitor upstairs that had two or three dead pixels in it and they denied our RMA. That was fun. Thankfully Dell RMA'd the boot print that appeared, lol. That one I couldn't exactly live with.

[raw cairn]

Oh thank god nvm. I didnt see the context.

I thought the scissors insinuated something else

[molten prawn]

They had issues with the zippers as well, otherwise yes, a hanging thread wouldn't be much to bat an eye at. #lttstore message

[sullen frost]

at least you don't have a weird no-name brand lol

my bag should arrive Monday 🙏

[blazing wave]

It’s a string my guy, it’s not even your backpack. A lot of shirts get strings coming off of them over time, weirdly I don’t angrily email the company about it every time.

[blazing wave]

Ah I hadn’t seen that, I think that’s probably just standard wear and tear tho no?

I mean it’s a part a zipper with constant metal on metal wear and is barely visible. If the entire coating started coming off then I’d say there’s merit to warranty the bag

[molten prawn]

If it had been used a bit I'd say yes (the gunmetal finish was chosen over the black because when it wears it still looks good, not because it's unable to be damaged), but he said he had just got the bag and only used it a few minutes? If true I'd assume that was factory damage.

[blazing wave]

Mine looks pretty similar to what he posted, I’ve used it all day today. I think that area is just really prone to wear because the forces on it

Doesn’t effect the functionality of the bag at all

Every time you open/close the bag there’s a lot of force between two metal surfaces, gonna lead to wear

[daring remnant]

I can see what you're getting at and I definitely had a bit of a gut reaction as this is really one of the first times I've bought a more premium product. The fact that I hadn't even used it for more than 10-20 minutes and under a dozen open/closes is what really got me.

I can understand that it will wear overtime, but I didn't expect it to be instant. Not angry or upset just wondering about options. (Yes I know scissors will work for the string and that it's a non-issue functionally, I just don't enjoy that it's quite visibly striking and a defect)

[blazing wave]

Yeah I always try and keep my “new” stuff looking perfect for as long as I can lol

I fully intend to moderately abuse this backpack to put it through its paces tho

If the coating starts coming off in a more visible way that’s what I’d be annoyed by

[plain fern]

if you're curious, and it's not a dealbreaker, you can always submit a support ticket asking if it's normal

[copper oracle]

my god the littlest things going for warranty lol weirdos

just dont buy expensive things u cant afford

[limber laurel]

cant wait for these people to RMA their new phone for having fingerprints on the screen, 10 minutes after opening it

that said the zipper wear, while slightly concerning seems only slightly worse than the store images

[copper oracle]

r they ykk zippers

[limber laurel]

https://i.gyazo.com/39b0024e4237b9f538b4d290e917fbb1.png

[copper oracle]

ah

[limber laurel]

that said, I'm pretty sure that is the zipper tape + slider body; then the interlocking pull tabs are their own thing

[copper oracle]

hmm

[limber laurel]

considering how the other zippers have "YKK" and the interlocking ones have "LTT"

[copper oracle]

i see

[limber laurel]

but this is also all on rubbing surfaces that are ~3-5mm wide and cant be seen from any reasonable standing distance + be hidden under the slider body

imo its like the people that buy a sports car luxury offroader, but refuse to ever drive it because they cant let their baby get dirty

[copper oracle]

haha

[limber laurel]

you bought an expensive utility- use it and dont be afraid to beat it up

[copper oracle]

ya clearly meant to be used daily but i can def see ppl doing that

its big enough to be my small luggage on short trips

i wfh so i dont need to use it everday

and i need a new laptop bag as well

so basically 2.5 in 1 bag for me

[ivory breach]

This right here

[limber laurel]

just pull the senior engineer meme and work outside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBbt_HKXfXM

[copper oracle]

haha hmm

o ya id use it as my sports gear stuff too but i dont want to stink it up soo that stays with gym bag

[chilly tartan]

I've never had a bag with those carabiner zipper things

Doesn't seem like a bad idea but u guys well see if I ever use it

[candid fern]

I think when the PF video came out, the # of units available dropped by 1k instantly

1 k is alot of sales in 1 day

[vestal kiln]

Tesla is not the benchmark for quality in cars at all, they're known for shit quality

Was thinking about buying a model S a few years back

Sat in one... I realised how shit it is

[vestal kiln]

There's a PB Swiss with a bit holder, and it costs about the same as the LTT

[minor notch]

WATER BOTTLE IS A SCAM

my drink been cool for 24h

[vestal kiln]

Isn't that like the point of an insulating water bottle?

[lime fossil]

didnt they sell like 40k in day one?

thats obviously initial rush but still wild stuf

[mild plinth]

how good is the backpack?

[blazing wave]

So far, very good

[vestal kiln]

It's nice

But nothing super special

Have a buddy who bought one

[mild plinth]

is it worth the big price?

[blazing wave]

Depends what you use it for

And your budget

I had a peak design 30l, and the LTT bag works a lot better for what I do

[mild plinth]

i dont have a lot of money rn but i have 2 laptops, a bunch of snacks, chargers, fidget toys, papers, backup medication, etc and i can barely fit anything else in it

[blazing wave]

It’s definitely a good bag for multiple laptops

Best I’ve seen

[mild plinth]

if you were to fill it up all the way and carry it around how heavy do you think it might be?

[blazing wave]

Depends if you fill it with lead or feathers

[mild plinth]

a mixture of both

[blazing wave]

I mean, it’ll weigh just as much as any other bag you put the same volume of lead/feathers into

[mild plinth]

thats assuming the bag itself isnt heavier than the previous bag

[blazing wave]

The bag itself isn’t very heavy

[mild plinth]

thank god

now if you push down on the front does it compact or does it always look like its full?

[blazing wave]

It’s pretty much always gonna look like a cube

You could push in the front maybe

But it likes to be a cube

[mild plinth]

we shall put it in minecraft then

the lttstore mod

featuring giant backpack

[blazing wave]

Put a screwdriver on the crafting table lol

[mild plinth]

hell yeah

add computers to minecraft

lets put it together

oh we need the LTT Screwdriver, good thing its in my LTT backpack with infinite storage

[hushed sonnet]

Not the same volume. Feathers take up a lot more space than lead if you try and make the weight the same

[blazing wave]

That was my point, feathers are significantly less dense than lead so what matters to determine the weight of the bag is what you put in the bag

That’s why I said put the same volume of feathers/lead, not the same weight.

[lime fossil]

tried putting a baseball bat in the backpack?

[blazing wave]

Nah I’ve only put a basketball bat in mine

[lime fossil]

silly question. but like how much could fit of one maximum

with the rest of the length hnaging around around the zippers or whatever

silly but oddly helpful question for me lol

[blazing wave]

I would try but I don’t own a baseball bat

[lime fossil]

if youre asking why its not all that ucommon ill have a couple inch diameter pipe on me or something, so curious how much whacking of folks id do lol vs how much would fit diagonally in the bag

[blazing wave]

I just literally don’t own a baseball bat lol

[hushed sonnet]

I mean it depends on the length of the bat too

[chilly tartan]

Can you not ping mod

<@&750150305383186585> idek if these vids are nsfw but there's a video in all the chat rooms so I imagine they can't be good

Esp the one in pc hardware I'm not gonna click on in class lmao

[lime fossil]

which is why i am asking about how much of the bat would fit.

can I fit 10in? 20? 30? whats the diagonal volume of the big pocket basically

[onyx drum]

If you calculate the diagonal based on the sizes for inner and outer dimensions using trusty ole Pythagoras, you get something between 19.5 and 22.8 inches.

[lime fossil]

gotcha gotcha. thanks buddy. so likely a smidge smaller than Id like but possibly usable

[vestal kiln]

I don't know

I looked at my friend's backpack

It's nice, but I'm not really it's better than other backpacks in the price range

Carabiner zippers are brilliant though... nice for carrying rackets if you don't want to carry a proper racket bag

[lime fossil]

the trust me bro warranty is what makes it worth it /s

[willow heath]

yes xD

[vestal kiln]

hahahaha

I remember that

Honestly the only lttstore product I'm not a fan of is the driver

[lime fossil]

wish they had kept the shirt orders up for while screwdriver launched

[vestal kiln]

Thing costs more than a bloody pbswiss

And pb Swiss tools are the rolls Royce of tools

[lime fossil]

does it? its $70 compared to the $150 or whatever of the pbswiss

the back force is what tipped me over the edge personally. excited to see if it realy is that low

[vestal kiln]

Yes

The pb Swiss ratchet is like $60

$50 for a stubby

There's a pb swiss with an integrated bit holder that's a bit more, I think like $70 or $80

[lime fossil]

as again one of the most frustrating things with a ratchetting driver imo is being unable to actually have it ratchet for most of the insertion

[vestal kiln]

I saw that video of the comparison of all ratchet drivers

Not sure where he got the $140 for the pb swiss

[lime fossil]

showing $88 for me right now

thats USD

and the back force in reviews... yeah

different use/need

$134 USD for the one with bits

$134 is model without storage in the handle

idk whats going on with it. not a tool i need so dont much care in that regard

[pallid isle]

anyone know how long the support queue is? i submitted a ticket 9 days ago and haven't gotten a response 😦

[peak halo]

Was about 3,000 tickets at the weekend

[pallid isle]

boo hiss

[golden citrus]

neat - got the package of the stuff i ordered when getting the backpack..now to wait for the backpack.

one complaint. the water bottle is an intel socket.

boo. intel. boo ( /s )

[chilly tartan]

Lol

[lime fossil]

whens backpack v2 thats bigger Kappa like a 25 to 30in sorta diagonal would be nice

[blazing wave]

He’s referring to a different lineup of pb Swiss tools that I haven’t seen anyone test

So he has no real idea what he’s talking about

[lime fossil]

ah makes sense

I will admit that I didnt understand the screwdriver at first either

pretty sure i said as much in this very server. a computer building specific screwdriver, thats just silly to me

[blazing wave]

I believe this is the one he’s referring to:

https://drpd.cc/tool-shop/bits-accessories/bit-drivers/pb-swiss-insider-pro-ratchet-w-10-bit-magazine/

[lime fossil]

but the actual features of it seems like a good overall use

[blazing wave]

Seems like he’s assuming “well this one also has the name pb Swiss printed on it so it must be just as good”

[lime fossil]

would like confirmation they are gonna be offering more bits at some point though so I dont have to take a grinder to standard bits to fit 12

[ancient python]

Got my bag yesterday, funny enough first impressions werent as good as I was expecting, but the more I use it, the more I like it

Its very non-conventional

Funny enough it isnt as big as i thought it might be, but the square shape gives plenty of room. Most of the pockets I was use to having on the outside are on the inside

Something that should be highlighted much more is the fact is made from recycled bottles, thats super awesome

[inner marsh]

The thing about that PB Swiss is you can't even find it for sale other than ebay. They haven't actively produced it in a while, apparently. So sure, it exists and the MSRP was similar, but you either have to pay above MSRP for new off ebay or go with used. I'm also not a fan of having to unscrew stuff to remove bits. The whole point of getting a ratcheting screwdriver was so I didn't have to do that motion, lol.

Edit: It's probably why PF didn't test that version. You can't get it anywhere and I doubt he'd use a used tool in his testing. The next closest, with bits, is that $144 version.

[candid fern]

Interesting. I like my bag. I hate how absurdly boxy it is

I would definitely like a v2 that is smaller so I can use that one as an everyday bag

As it stands now, I would not take backpack with me anywhere unless I'm traveling for several days

[cobalt adder]

This bag feels amazing

[raw cairn]

I own it and I hate it

Also take my emoji for ur pfp if u want

Since u seem to like that person

[chilly tartan]

Did u actually get one

[blazing wave]

I give it a 0% chance cotton candy dong master bought one

[chilly tartan]

From what I can tell, at least half of reviews of ppl that actually have the bag have concerns that I am concerned about, like it being boxy as fuck and not usable as a daily bag

[blazing wave]

I mean, how is it not useable as a daily bag?

That’s what I use it for

[narrow trench]

fr

[chilly tartan]

Because its massive and is dorky as hell

[blazing wave]

“Dorky as hell” sounds like a you problem

[narrow trench]

what even is dorky lol

[chilly tartan]

All of my co workers said it looked like I had a cooler on my back lol

[blazing wave]

Ok and?

[chilly tartan]

And I guess thats a good thing?

Also im kinda annoyed theres still no videos of people even just fucking around with the bag except for the original LTT videos

[blazing wave]

If you care about someone thinking a bag looks dorky, that’s a you problem

[narrow trench]

i mena, if you dont like it. dont buy it. buy a different bag

[narrow trench]

bcs its super new

[chilly tartan]

eh, 300ish have had it for weeks and 1500+ are arriving over the span of the last week or so

[blazing wave]

Only ~2000 are in consumers hands lol

And most people are probably using it

[chilly tartan]

Right well

it would be nice to have more video reviews

you'd think the first 2k, the most fanatical ltt fans would be the most willing to do it

If i get mine any time soon, i'll be sure to do like a 30 second video of my shoving my pc stuff into there and showing how much room is left over

speaking of, how is the port issue doing any nick L updates?

[ancient python]

So bag isnt actually that big if thats your concern

Yes its a tad boxy, but a fully loaded bag looks similar

Im waiting on review until after my trip

[chilly tartan]

Also a thought i just had

I wonder how many ppl ordering LTT screwdriver have never used a ratcheting screwdriver for pc parts

cos i dont own a ratcheting one, if i bought one i would try it out with the amazon basics first

[ancient python]

Valid

[arctic smelt]

waiting for mine to arrive

[ancient python]

I also wouldnt be to worried about it looking out of place at office

[chilly tartan]

I dont carry enough stuff to bring mine to work but

work would prob be fine cos everyone at my place is a mega nerd

but school i wouldnt be bringing to classes

[narrow trench]

why not?

its pretty stealth

it doesnt scream: LTT TECHTIPS TECH TECH TECHHHHHH

[ancient python]

It looks fairly high end if thats a concern

[narrow trench]

ooh for it to get stolen

[plain fern]

Sew the pocket shut once the airtag goes in

And wire the airtag to a glitter bomb

[little hemlock]

The battery will need to eventually be replaced, unfortunately

[chilly tartan]

Another reason for a video

How easily does the airtag fall out of the pocket?

[little hemlock]

No idea, I'm guessing not easily but can test when it arrives. It's designed to stay upright all the time anyway because of the boxy shape, so unlikely to fall out because the bag tipped over
And if it's really a concern, you can always keep an airtag in a different zippered pocket

[chilly tartan]

Which totally defeats the purpose of it

[ancient python]

It wont fall out from what i can tell

Even if it does, its still in the bags main compartment

[candid fern]

It's big.

80 lb golden retriever for scale

[willow tide]

It needs to scream TECH TECH POTATO then

[inner marsh]

I love the look of it.

[candid fern]

If you're a student rolling into class with a laptop and a notebook or two it's definitely oversized.

[inner marsh]

Highschool and such, I guess? College? Doesn't seem like an issue.

Though, I'm going by my own memories of my college.

I had a laptop backpack, but I hated always struggling to fit enough stuff without putting pressure on the laptop.

[cloud fable]

Dunno if this has been posted here or not but the LTT screwdriver did amazingly.
https://youtu.be/845HUaWYSQA

[little hemlock]

yes, it has been posted 🙂

[ancient python]

I guess im use to very large bags

I guess schools dont use textbooks as much, i assume e-readers make more sense

I use to have 3 textbooks and a few notebooks, which took up some space

[candid fern]

Wow this is the first time that this LTT screwdriver review has been posted here ever even though its been out for 4 days.

[peak halo]

I subbed to Project Farm, turned on bell notifications for that one video (and the one before it), shared the link in here almost as soon as it went live then immediately unsubbed

[chilly tartan]

im sure you'll be getting them on your notification page for multiple days!

[vestal kiln]

It's a good video

Not sure where they got the price for the pb Swiss driver though

I bought my pb Swiss a few years ago

And I paid like £50 for it lol

[inner marsh]

Yeah, that's why I love the look of that bag. Having 1.5 to 2" thick books, three or four at a time, plus notebooks and laptop and anything else...

[onyx drum]

I'm gonna get the screwdriver after I buy some things I need

like a 3070 and 12600K

[candid fern]

All of the FE cards are best buy are getting delisted today

they already de-listed the 80 and 90 fe's

[onyx drum]

That’s insane

Why the hell?

[acoustic musk]

assembled one billy bookcase and the anodized coating is already coming off of my #2 philips... tbh i would've preferred if these weren't anodized at all, especially since the shaft isn't

[onyx drum]

Damn, that sucks

[chilly tartan]

They said that it comes off super fast

Or maybe that was a review i dont remember

youd have to ask their sales people

im sure it isnt for any durability feature

[ancient python]

In the video i think they mentioned it

[glossy phoenix]

Yeah I think it was a bad call todo, thankfully it’s just bits.

[ancient python]

The bits were selected before the shaft change

Tbh i would like a non black bit set in future to match the silver shaft

[stable ridge]

I’d probably just throw them in a sandblaster to remove all coating lol

Assuming that wouldn’t damage the bits (I don’t see why it would)

[candid fern]

the bits are black because of the black shaft

and then the shaft didn't stay black, it became silver

gib silver bits

[chilly tartan]

v2 moment

[solid prairie]

Make colour coded anodized bits like the pb Swiss ones but shorties

[lime fossil]

color coded by size would be sweet

but more importantly a few more types are needed

[vestal kiln]

Honestly I'm not a fan of the short bits

Annoys me that the bits from the ltt driver can't be used in others

[raw cairn]

Oh wow that's tru.

[candid fern]

Wow this is the first time this has been posted here ever.

[chilly tartan]

lol

[pastel lichen]

There's no need to thank me 😌

[raw cairn]

Wow I've never seen this video, so informative. Very nice

[lapis coyote]

Wow i never seen that video

Anyways

You guys seen this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=845HUaWYSQA

[blazing wave]

I feel like we’re reaching r/AlzheimersGroup levels

[tough sail]

This is so funny to me that I had to share it 🙂

... funnier because I ordered him a screwdriver for Christmas last week, which should arrive a few days before Christmas.

[near osprey]

can't say I'm super impressed with how well the Backpack stands up on its own

the material is definitely pretty sturdy and it stays upright the longest of any bag I've seen, but without anything in the middle pocket, it still buckles and falls over within 5 minutes

also, the tolerances of a couple of the carabiner zippers seems off, with one of them moving side to side enough for the latch to completely miss the rest of the carabiner

[chilly tartan]

💀

[ivory breach]

wdu mean by this

[chilly tartan]

I assume he means the 'door' on the carabiner, whatever its called, wobbles side to side

my guess

[ivory breach]

interesting

[ivory breach]

Oh I see now

makes sense

[floral schooner]

are you able to tighten the screw, or is it not like that?

[near osprey]

It’s a rivet

[ivory breach]

[floral schooner]

ripp

[chilly tartan]

lol

🤡

[simple summit]

Oof

[chilly tartan]

more promising day by day

[near osprey]

fwiw, those are the only complaints I have so far and the rest of the bag seems really well built

considering it’s a new product, I’m willing to give LTT the benefit of the doubt for growing pains, but we’ll see what happens with the support ticket I filed

[honest flame]

Screwdriver, orange or black?

[potent ocean]

Why not both?

I couldn't decide either, so I bought a driver for me wife... asked her which one she wanted... and I got the other one

[honest flame]

Because I don't need 2 :p

[peak smelt]

1 for home, 1 for the car... that was my justification haha

[rose spade]

I was on team all black at first, but watching the two reviews of the LTT screw drivers, the orange cap kinda grew on me and messaged support to get my order changed

[honest flame]

I first was all-black too, including shaft, but the coating durability made me switch to silver shaft, but I'm still debating black vs orange handle now

[rose spade]

Yeah, no. I wasn't a super fan of the glossy black shaft to begin with, so I went silver shaft right from the get-go xD

[vivid stirrup]

The dark blue ltt screwdriver been given to 3d printing nerd

https://twitter.com/nicklmg/status/1568064919979032576?t=At6-tEo3r6eM92U9MjZMcg&s=33

Nick Light (@nicklmg)

Yeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss it looks so good!

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[subtle jetty]

when will LTT keycaps be a thing

[arctic smelt]

Prolly never

[onyx drum]

iirc Linus recently stated that its very unlikely since this is a quite saturated market segment with lots of enthusiast-focussed brands/products

[subtle jetty]

I suppose so. I'm no entrepreneur, but seeing the custom keyboard section at MicroCenter was really bizarre

I have a feeling it may be a more mainstream thing down the line

[arctic smelt]

Ooo gamers nexus screwdriver

[hushed sonnet]

So do we know where every color coded driver went then yet?

[rose spade]

That one mid-blue one very much looks like GN colors (the one posted above is the dark blue one), so I wouldn't be surprised if GN get's one at one point. Although, they do have their own screwdriver set, so I dunno

The black/white one really could go to anyone, but my best guess rn is Unbox Therapy or Jerry Rig Everything, as Black/White are their main brand colors

[hushed sonnet]

I’m sure Jerry will be one

[rose spade]

But as major just said, we'll see in due time

[hushed sonnet]

Though I wouldn’t say a ratcheting driver is handy for phones

Precision is best

[rose spade]

Btw. the cyan one really looks like Dave2Ds main color scheme, so I think that he'll be getting that one