lttstore

[vivid stirrup]

i got the notification on both my emails sucessfully but image corrupt on both

(1 personal and 1 work due to unknown release)

[chilly tartan]

I got the email but I think Gmail doesn't push notifications me for promotions or something

[vivid stirrup]

Idk much about Gmail tbh lol

[chilly tartan]

I never configured it

[vivid stirrup]

I always used outlook since it was hotmail

[chilly tartan]

I just see email pushes sometimes

Having so many emails is annoying

[vivid stirrup]

True

[chilly tartan]

Ohhhh wait no

That must be why

I only seem to get push notifications on real name accounts but I think I did the notif on one of my others

[vivid stirrup]

Oop

[chilly tartan]

Lmao

What are the odds they do another revision after these 40k or even more?

Obviously lienus would never admit live that they are working on revisions since it would probably at least somewhat slow sales on the current version

[chrome night]

Gmail is terrible, hate it, but also haven't found much better alternatives :/

it's ridiculous how they rewrite the outgoing email headers before they're sent from Google's SMTP servers

it's also ridiculous how you can't use regex or some other good standard for inbox filtering

such a disappointing solution from such a capable provider, guess they just don't give a shit

[chilly tartan]

I almost exclusively use email for password resets and account activation links

Almost never need to go back to search for something

This not counting the work or school email that is

[chrome night]

well, it's not even necessarily for searching...

just for filtering mail straight to deleted for example

[chilly tartan]

Oh yeah I just dont

My inbox of my older emails mostly are absolutely full of garbage that gets thru Gmail filters

[chrome night]

like I got like 20 obvious spam mails a day for like 2 weeks, supposedly from DHL, could've caught every single one with a simple regex and deleted them straight away

[chilly tartan]

Just various versions of this

[chrome night]

but inbox is fine, outgoing email, that's another problem... having email "aliases" is impossible, unless I only want to receive on them... because Google will rewrite the mail headers to include your Google account, and then the email will land in spam... (this is a Google Workspace thing mostly tbf)

[chilly tartan]

This is the current version I get about 1 a day I don't bother to report as spam

And there's always different scams coming and going

[blazing wave]

Pretty sure I’ve seen a number of things saying they can change it, if it’s been like a really long time since you sent in the ticket I’d reach out to nick on twitter

Any company releasing internal support policies would be how to destroy a business 101

[chilly tartan]

No not very long

I did it on Saturday so not even an entire work day yet

[raw cairn]

Or just have a good public policy to begin with

[potent ocean]

The conversation about the warranty is getting a little old now, not gonna lie. Seems like it just goes in circles. May be we should all just wait for the public warranty?

[chrome night]

nah, not old yet! I think people are fine to be a bit concerned, but I also think Linus has handled it well now - after all they aren't shipping before end of September, so until then you should be able to cancel your order if you don't like the warranty either the one they said they'll publish, or the "Trust me bro" words warranty 😛 what do you think?

[potent ocean]

I kind of disagree, if you back-ordered before a warranty was created, you knew that a warranty didn't exist, and are fine with that.
Being concerned is fine, but this circle of "trust me bro" vs "a grown up warranty" is just tiresome, and has been addressed on the WAN show already

[plain fern]

Speaking of warranties

How many people are planning on waiting for V2 of the TMB Guarantee shirt

With full backpack warranty screened on the inside

[serene cargo]

I don't have enough patience to wait for the eternity between last week's WAN show the release of that theoretical TMB shirt

[chilly tartan]

Do people actually wear that kind of stuff

[plain fern]

People actually wear pants that say "juicy"

"trust me bro" is very wearable on a t shirt

[chrome night]

I was mostly just trying to be annoying on purpose but yeah, I get what you mean - I do expect them to release the warranty retroactively though

[chrome night]

sure, why not? if it wasn't taking an eternity and some more, and VAT, expensive shipping etc, I'd have bought more of the meme-like stuff already 😂

[blazing wave]

They’ll definitely release it retroactively, I agree with him that if you ordered it without a warranty, you bought that product, LTT didn’t force you.

[chilly tartan]

How did the warranty shit start up?

[blazing wave]

Reddit

[chilly tartan]

Someone asked on Twitter and lienus blew it up?

Ah reddit

[blazing wave]

Nah

People on Reddit were like omg $250 no warranty reeeeee

[chilly tartan]

I'm guessing most of the ppl complaining hadn't ordered yet

[blazing wave]

Which got 10k upvotes and hit the front page of Reddit

[blazing wave]

I suspect they never intended on ordering in the first place

As Linus said on WAN, cancellations have been in the dozens

[chrome night]

yeah, personally getting a warranty case handled would be an insane PITA in the first place, so not too important to me specifically 😛

[chilly tartan]

Well obvi

[blazing wave]

People that bought the bag don’t care

[chilly tartan]

When have cancelations ever corresponded to public outrage

[blazing wave]

It was also hyper isolated to Reddit for like a week

Then at some point a bunch of people started coming in here

[chilly tartan]

I don't think there has ever been a case where a company does a bad and outrage actually financially impacts them

Boycotts literally do not work

[blazing wave]

Why would it be a PITA? Legit asking not like rhetorical

Silence is typically the best option as has been shown by like 99% of YouTuber controversies

David dobrik had crazy backlash for like a few months

And he just dipped the internet for a while, now he’s back getting millions of views a vid

[chrome night]

because I live in Norway, and shipping it back to Canada would be a huge hassle

[blazing wave]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t make you ship it back tbh

[chrome night]

but I guess LMG is the kinda company that would pay the shipping costs and what not, though we don't know that for sure yet I guess

[blazing wave]

My workshop jacket was defective on one of the pockets and they just gave me a full refund and let me keep the jacket

[chrome night]

depends on the problem I guess, but if it's some sort of manufacturing problem, it would make more sense if I shipped it back and they fixed it while sending me a new one or something(?)

oh, nice

I guess this is the type of thing a written warranty is important for 😂 some more clarity

[blazing wave]

Might be different if they had stock of the jacket, but I kinda doubt it. The logistics of repairing the defective product then probably having to sell it as B stock would make it not worth it

[chrome night]

personally I would see it as an investment into keeping my customers happy, happy customers tend to come back, because they trust they will be treated fairly, even though I might be more expensive than my competitors

also more importantly, happy customers recommend to their friends and family etc, or even buy as gifts

so I would almost be willing to bet that long term, it would be more profitable

[blazing wave]

I’d say I’m pretty happy with a free jacket lol

[chrome night]

yeah, and now you're not afraid to go back and buy more from them, because you know if something isn't as it should be, they will handle it one way or another

[blazing wave]

Ye, to me what support actually does is wayyy more important than anything on paper

Because most warranties have extremely vague wording on purpose

[chrome night]

you essentially need to be a lawyer to deduce it, and even then it's tricky

if something says "10 year warranty", you'll just have to believe that's it, and basically consult with the warranty ToS before doing basically anything with the product 😂 usually it's not too bad, but there are certainly companies exploiting this for all they can

[chilly tartan]

Having things in wording is important so when you do get fucked by a warranty claim you can at least go to reddit and say wow they said I could get it warrantied but they screwed me

Except it is quite useless since u can just complain to reddit anyways

Written warranty for legality is pointless

[chrome night]

not pointless, but it's not necessarily important

[blazing wave]

Look at the shitstorm of people on Reddit complaining about not having a warranty on a product almost none of them bought

[chilly tartan]

It is pointless

Nobody is gonna sue

[chrome night]

I mean, any serious company has a written warranty anyway

[chilly tartan]

And if ltt does you dirty, you can complain, written rules or not

[blazing wave]

It’s an advertising tactic, not a consumer protection

[chilly tartan]

Agree on that tho

[chrome night]

without a written warranty, it's going to be hard to take them to court, so as consumers, we'd definitely want the warranty written in case we wanted to take them to court

[chilly tartan]

Nobody is gonna take them to court period

It just doesn't happen

[blazing wave]

No matter what, the odds of going to court are about 1/10000000

[chrome night]

I would gladly take Gigabyte to court if they refused the RMA of my 3080, just for the sake of giving them some shit in return

[chilly tartan]

Hope u got a solid job

[chrome night]

doesn't cost more than like $200 or so to take someone to court here 😛

and Norway's consumer laws enforces 3 or 5 year warranties for generally anything sold in Norway (whether it's 3 or 5 years depends on what type of product it is)

[blazing wave]

It costs you missing work, the headache of doing it, presumably international court shit makes it more complicated

[blazing wave]

It’s imported so I’m pretty confident that doesn’t apply

[chrome night]

I would see it as a challenge, and an experience 😛

it does definitely apply, I bought it from a Norwegian retailer

I RMAd my dead 970 like a month before it hit 5 years old, got a full refund 😂

[chilly tartan]

Maybe u can sue the retailer

[blazing wave]

LTT isn’t a Norwegian retailer?

Ohhhh you’re talking gpu I’m a brick

[chrome night]

they first sent me a 1060, and I had bought a 1070 Ti, so I asked if I could get my money back instead, and they were "sure"

oh yeah, I was talking about the Gigabyte thing

never had to RMA it though, fixed it myself with new pads and new paste 😛

effectively voided warranty though, even the Norwegian consumer laws thing

[blazing wave]

I hope to never have to deal with a US tech companies warranty department

[chrome night]

but in the case of the backpack, or anything else bought on lttstore, Norwegian consumer laws don't apply

[chrome night]

lol yeah, if I wasn't in Norway, and didn't buy the GPU from a Norwegian retailer, I would never even think about court 😂

[blazing wave]

I have never, ever, heard someone say “yeah I RMAd X, was super easy and fast”

[chrome night]

any company would bury you financially long before you can win any case

[blazing wave]

In the US*

Idk abt other places as much

[chrome night]

lol yeah, perks of being Norwegian I guess

[blazing wave]

I just get my stuff from microcenter with an extended warranty

They’re crazy generous with warranty stuff

From what I’ve read, I could bring in my 3090 that I waterblocked (if it bricked) and they would replace it

[chilly tartan]

Really I think nobody cares about lttstore written warranty is because only ltt fans buy from the store. Nobody is going to the store and saying wow, I am going to check the warranty policy to ensure if my bag breaks in a month I can get a new one

[chrome night]

I would suspect in the case of an RMA, it'd be easy and fast with them?

[chilly tartan]

Which yeah as cringe as it is, is exactly what lienus said

[chrome night]

probably just a "hype train" started on Reddit by some clowns that aren't really fans 😂

[chilly tartan]

"Just trust me bro" or don't buy it

Definitely alienates non ltt fan shoppers

[chrome night]

yeah, in Norway I buy from retailers I trust to handle an RMA appropriately 😛

[chilly tartan]

But there's like, 4 non ltt fans buying bags

[blazing wave]

I had a prebuilt PC from them (in house brand) die on me within a year of getting it, hadn’t bought the extended warranty but it had a year warranty by default. They replaced it with a newer system worth abt $150 more than the old one

[chilly tartan]

I never extendo warranty

[blazing wave]

Was a 1k machine so that was a pretty decent amount of the price

[chrome night]

yeah, that's the kinda company I bought my GTX 970 from 😛

that company is shit by comparison today, but their customer service is still as good as far as I'm aware

[blazing wave]

I do on important/high failure rate/annoying to get parts

[chrome night]

but they're so big now, they basically own the market in Norway, they can almost do whatever and get away with it... such as fake discounts etc

[chilly tartan]

I bought a bstock gpu with pretty limited warranty in January lmao

Didn't give a fuck

[blazing wave]

Got it on my GPUs cus I got them during the peak of the shortage pretty much (march 2021). Would’ve taken wayyyy too much effort than it was worth to get a new one if it broke

[vivid stirrup]

holy shit this chat is BOPING

[chrome night]

I bought my 3080 for insane price on the second hand market here 😂 (my previous 3080, I sold it lol)

[chrome night]

nobody forced you to be here 😄

[chilly tartan]

I saved so much money scalping a 60ti FE and then buying a bstock 70ti

[blazing wave]

MCs policy was if you had the extended warranty, you got first dibs on any card that came in

[chilly tartan]

Worth it

[chrome night]

as long as you get the receipt, you can get the 5 year warranty claim still though

[blazing wave]

They would text you what they got that day then you would decide if you wanted one of them

[chrome night]

I bought a 3070 at MSRP, and traded it along with my old computer for the 3080 😛

[chrome night]

that's actually amazing!

[chilly tartan]

I spent in total about 540 on the 70ti which isn't even a very good deal. In January it was pretty good tho

[blazing wave]

Got all my cards for MSRP, can’t stand scalpers

[vivid stirrup]

its not a bad thing tbh its good and i like being here, i can get screwdriver updates, and once its released ill be gone like the dark at dawn

[chrome night]

because the receipt I got with the second hand 3080 I bought had 3 of that 3080 on it, and this was peak period of bad stock... 3080s costed like $2k upwards... retailers literally didn't give a shit

[blazing wave]

Made it super worth it during the shortage, I didn’t want to deal with any RMA stuff then

Would’ve been a nightmare

Ppl were waiting months

[chrome night]

haven't been any screwdriver updates in #lttstore while this convo took place, so no worries 🙂

[vivid stirrup]

k bed then lol XD

[chrome night]

yeah, that's why I repadded and repasted my 3080 effectively voiding my warranty, because money back, or it being stuck in some warehouse of ages was not an alternative - didn't have a spare GPU either

this along the fact that Gigabyte shipped unusable 3080s from factory in the first place is one of the arguments I'd put a lot of weight on if it was an RMA ending up in court

[blazing wave]

Doing that under MC warranty doesn’t void it from everything I’ve read

[chrome night]

but under Gigabyte warranty it would, I'm fairly sure

[ivory breach]

So like lanyards n stuff pretty cool colours eh

[chilly tartan]

I think I want to get the screwdriver, not rly sure tho

[blazing wave]

1000%

[chrome night]

speaking of, anyone happen to know if I'll void my warranty with ASUS if I waterblock my 3080 ROG Strix?

I know MSI tend to allow it

[blazing wave]

Manufacturer warranties are terrible in the US, wish we had more laws about it

and that companies would abide by the laws that do exist

[ivory breach]

Ive had pretty good luck with NZXT warrentys tbh like no bad experiences even though ive had quite a few with the products themselves lol

[blazing wave]

Friend of mine got a 6900xt from asrock, they shipped it without a “warranty void” sticker, and it broke

They denied it and just sent it back (denial due to stickers is illegal in the US)

[blazing wave]

There’s probably some stuff about it on the forums or smthn, I have no experience with asus cards/waterblocking them

From a very basic google search, sounds like as long as the damage isn’t from when you’re installing the cooler, they honor their warranty

[chrome night]

lol, thought ASRock was a decent company

[chrome night]

yeah, assuming you return it with the stock cooler - was basically what I found as well

[blazing wave]

https://www.asus.com/us/support/Article/925/

Basically says “warranty stays in place as long as you didn’t break it”

[blazing wave]

So did my friend lol

[chrome night]

oh well, ASRock is basically a niche in Norway 😂

got a crap ton of other manufacturers for GPUs though

maybe even ASRock tbf, in all fairness I haven't really looked for ASRock GPUs

[blazing wave]

I’ve had Asus and MSI cards

[chrome night]

I did look at mobos once

[blazing wave]

Both have held up really well

Current card is MSI

[chrome night]

yeah, afaik MSI, EVGA, and ASUS are usually the 3 you pick for best reliability overall

my strix card has been great

I need my LTT screwdriver though, so I can waterblock it

[blazing wave]

Mines a gaming X trio, had it air cooled for a while then finally made my custom loop, both its worked awesome

[chrome night]

I want a custom loop in my PC too, I just need to decide on a PC case

LTT PC Case when!

[blazing wave]

Lmao

I have a Corsair 5000X

Absolutely awesome to build in

[chrome night]

yeah, one of the best cases on market atm afaik, alongside a few others

[blazing wave]

I’ve had it for about a year now, and a lot of stuff is just really convenient

[chrome night]

I have a Define 7 XL, and the airflow in that is less than optimal because of the solid front panel, and limited vents on it

[blazing wave]

Removable filters etc

Only issue is once the loop is filled that boys a chonker

[chrome night]

I looked at the 1000D because it looks so ridiculous and awesome at the same time, though it might be a little too big xD I mean, Linus can almost move into it

mine is already almost a two person job to carry around 😂

and I only have an aio in there

no HDDs either

[blazing wave]

5000x alone is 30.51 pounds

Then add dual 360 rads and a lot of liquid

Starts to add up

[chilly tartan]

Loop a small form factor case 😈

[chrome night]

it sure does

[blazing wave]

The one PC building mountain I’ve yet to climb

[chrome night]

I've actually considered building my own desk PC, and looping that

[chilly tartan]

I'll never do it

No interest

[chrome night]

I wouldn't do an all glass top, I would do glass over certain areas, or a certain area, to show off what I want to show off

[blazing wave]

SFF custom loop is no bueno

[blazing wave]

or you could make your desk out of radiators

[chrome night]

lol yeah, but no, too expensive 😂

radioator desk on lttstore.com when?

[blazing wave]

Probably cost so much money

[chrome night]

would be fun if they auctioned off some of the fun projects they make that could actually be used 😂

though I guess most of it is so janky it's not really possible to sell

[blazing wave]

I bet they’ll do something like that at some point

Probably a pop up tho

[chrome night]

yeah, I need to move to Canada tbh

[blazing wave]

Cus eventually you start running out of space even in a warehouse (and your second warehouse)

[stuck torrent]

They have occasionally listed random stuff on the store that was presumably old tech equipment they weren't able to sell locally, although it was hundreds or thousands of dollars for niche tech gear

not like their unique build stuff though

[ivory breach]

I remember seeing the black magic camera on the store for a while lol

[chrome night]

presumably they take most of the stuff apart again though, and repurpose stuff in other projects

[blazing wave]

Yeah, some of it is too niche/modified to repurpose if I had to guess tho

[chrome night]

yeah, and I guess if they advertised it, someone would buy it for whatever just to get their hands on unique stuff from LTT 😂

[blazing wave]

I think it was stuff that was actually just super valuable

I think that one cpu Linus dropped being listed on there I think

[chrome night]

yeah, I don't think they ripped anyone off 😂

[blazing wave]

It was like a 10k CPU that he dropped and bent a bunch of pins on

[chrome night]

but then again if they sell camera equipment etc, it generally is going to be expensive, because they do use expensive equipment

lol that's very rip

can bend them back I suppose, but very ehhh

[blazing wave]

Yeah, probably why it didn’t sell lol

I think they stopped selling the one off stuff to make the site more professional/legit

[hasty bridge]

has anyone else’s ltt backpack shipped yet

[stuck torrent]

I get the impression they do flip a lot of stuff on facebook marketplace or the like because thats just a sensible way to go about things and get stuff to a home that'll actually use the product.

[chrome night]

also more fair, they probably got a lot of shit for doing "unfair" sales 😂

[chrome night]

nobody's backpack has shipped yet afaik, they start shipping towards end up September, don't they?

[hasty bridge]

oh I didn’t know that

[stuck torrent]

theoretically first wave is only going out as of sept 20th

although in practice i suspect it'll be a week or two sooner.

[blazing wave]

Was gonna say that implies someone’s has shipped lol

[hasty bridge]

💀

[blazing wave]

Yeah the earliest backpacks are the 20th

[chrome night]

Shipped from our warehouse by September 20
it says by, so I guess it'd be possible

[blazing wave]

Sounds like it could be earlier by a decent amount

All depends tho

[chrome night]

it sounds like they are expecting a shipment from their manufacturer to be coming in around that time, or few days before

[blazing wave]

I should be in the first shipment they send out, nick said I was ~#80

[chrome night]

no clue what I was, but wasn't like I had to be in a hurry to order

a lot of people probably was like

[hasty bridge]

I ordered prob within the first hour

[chrome night]

when they saw the VAT and shipping costs

[hasty bridge]

yeah the shipping costs had me kinda livid tbh

[chrome night]

think I ordered within the first 15 minutes

[blazing wave]

Pretty sure they’re expecting it earlier, the 20th is their “oh shit something went wrong” just in case date

I had finished my order in the first 60 seconds pretty sure lol

[chrome night]

yeah, and then they need some time to process it before they process the outgoing process I would guess

[blazing wave]

Got the email it was in stock after I placed the order

[chrome night]

lmao, nice

[hasty bridge]

too much processing that I couldn’t process in that sentence

[chrome night]

I saw the email randomly as I jumped in bed, as I generally check my email before I go to sleep 😛

[blazing wave]

While trying to process your sentence we encountered a processing error and will be terminating the process

[chrome night]

and now the process can hopefully start with blank sheets to process what the previous process failed to process, because of too many processes in my message about logistics processes

[subtle jetty]

I saw the email go out and immediately I purchased

who needs warranty, bro :)

[onyx drum]

my friend got his mousepad

[chrome night]

nice 😄

I've been considering one too, but ugh, shipping time/costs and VAT makes it kinda ehh for me

[narrow trench]

Mouse pad bigger then the desk

[blazing wave]

I think you’re well within deskpad territory there lol

[onyx drum]

lmao

[chilly tartan]

Literally covers the entire desk lol

[onyx drum]

i think it was more of a small table

[chilly tartan]

Everything not covered by TV and consoles at least

[blazing wave]

Even covers some air desk just in case

[onyx drum]

i want one for myself now tbh

[blazing wave]

Big fan of the lack of mouse and or keyboard on it lol

[onyx drum]

its simple

i think it would look better if he put the xbox how it was supposed to sit

and remove the books

[subtle jetty]

i have a desk that's entirely also a mousepad

I wouldn't recommend eating on it lol

[chrome night]

I ordered a custom sized mousepad for my 160x80cm desk, don't use it atm though

so inconvenient to take it off to clean lol

[onyx drum]

i need a new one

[chrome night]

regardless of eating on it or not, it'll eventually get dirty

[onyx drum]

i have a small one i got at five below lmao

[chrome night]

using a mangled Logitech POWERPLAY atm, but have some 900x400mm ones laying around as well

I have too many mice, keyboards, and mousepads

actually no, not enough 🙈

[onyx drum]

give me a mousepad or two

[chrome night]

ngl, I might've considered that if you lived close by lol

cba shipping some old dirty mousepad

[strange tangle]

Anyone know where Riley and Linus got the big keyswitch they are pictured with for the Keyswitch T-Shirt?

[chilly tartan]

Yeeeeahh backpack order is canceled

[final quest]

I would love to Cover my whole desk but its 30cm x ~135cm.

[plain fern]

1200x300 and invoke "screw it close enough"

Or 1500x600 and the power of knife compels you

Option c, get a correctly sized desk

[stuck torrent]

I don't think theres one exactly the size of the logitech powerplay mat which is slightly unfortunate if I don't want to go all knifey on things. Could just flop over top the back thing and have a bulgey bit i guess, but that sounds less than ideal.

[final quest]

Actually id love to do so, Buuuut how to i make proper edges? Its surely layers and stuff - so it would Break All together if id leave it.

[ivory breach]

Lighter

[final quest]

Not possible, i have a bed and below it is my custom desk - hard to explain

[ivory breach]

And like melt the edge

[plain fern]

I have no idea how well it actually works

But Linus did do a mouse mat+jerryrig knife bundle

[final quest]

Does it work? Im sure its Rubber and not even sure if theres much plastic in it.

[plain fern]

Advertising you could cut it 4 ways

[ivory breach]

Its synthetic+ rubber after all so hold a flame near it and "melt/burn" it sealed

[plain fern]

I assume the end result was at least borderline useable

[ivory breach]

Bottom layer is rubber, edge and top surface ks synthetic

[final quest]

Rubber does nothing under a Lighter wont seal at all, the rest does, if its plastic.

[ivory breach]

If you HAVE to cut it then that is the best option unless you have a sticking machine and sow a border in

[final quest]

Synthetic could also be something not meltable.

[ivory breach]

Stitching*

[plain fern]

Also, you can go big

[ivory breach]

Thats what the short man did lol, csnt think of anything else

[final quest]

If i Cover my whole dest i have to cut, if i wont Cover it fully i wont have to cut it.

[final quest]

Linus showed it?

[plain fern]

1500x700 or bigger, you get some wiggle room if you goof on the lengthwise cut

[final quest]

I hope the knife gets back in Stock and i just get that size lol

If i do decide to cut, where id have to know if its meltable, i mean i can also use hot clue, but that would Look like sheet.

[plain fern]

Cut side against back of desk

[stuck torrent]

Iirc there was some discussion on the forums about this topic (in the merch section), so you might get some insights there as well if you want to dig a little.

[plain fern]

And I'd recommend on the side farthest from your mouse

[final quest]

I even have a hard wood edge to push against on the back and right, so that wont be an issue

Still would Look like crap.

[final quest]

That wont be possible.

Cause the sides where id cut would be on the right and top

Thats my desk btw (old pic), left side hangs in the air.

[plain fern]

Well, there would be a fair bit of buffer

My concern was cut right next to mouse movement, and friction encouraging unsticking

Also, lol. Nice Kobayashi pic

[final quest]

Thats literally an non issue

[final quest]

Thx

If i use hot glue i use it so hot its like water, bonds with practically everything and you cannot get it off like at all. Especially fabrics.

My concern is the Looks of it xD

But man a custom cut to size deskpad for my weird shaped desk would be dope...

[plain fern]

Wonder if you could cut away rubber while leaving surface intact

And then tuck surface under the edge

[final quest]

The idea doesnt Sound too Bad, but too complicated

Might consider it when i actually cut it and i realize the layers arent bonded at all (but they will)

[potent ocean]

https://twitter.com/linusgsebastian/status/1559085286843248640?s=21&t=W9Vv64qzxcgJ_0QJdMy2PQ

Linus LinusMediaGroup (@linusgsebastian)

@DinuD11 Hoping for August but my schedule is pretty packed (with vacation time lol) so it might not happen til Sept.

Twitter · Aug 15, 2022, 7:51 AM

Screwdriver timeline

[raw cairn]

Nice. Cant wait till see the paperwork

[chilly tartan]

Typical lobus

Late for everything 😢

What's the warranty on the screwdriver 🤓

[raw cairn]

Wow bro wow. Can u please stop bringing it up? Hes promised to have a written policy soon. GOSH

[chilly tartan]

Lmao

[raw cairn]

[plain fern]

I know Linus ain't snap on, and he doesn't have a tool truck that's doing the rounds in every state, but their orange handled screwdriver is the closest comparison that comes to mind, and they have limited lifetime warranty.

What do y'all think is a fair written warranty, not counting the unwritten TMB?

Personally, i think 5 years would be fine

[raw cairn]

Anything would be better than manufacturer defect coverage only.

Or the 30 day + keep the packaging return policy

[chilly tartan]

Idk how u even break a screwdriver

But I feel like you could easily get away with 5 years and have negligible warranty claims

[plain fern]

Actually, just had a better idea

Warranty should last 7 years and 1 day

#friendlycompetition

[chilly tartan]

I guess it's prob easier to break an ltt driver than ifixit or something

Ifixit has nearly no parts but ltt has the ratchet

[plain fern]

And i think there's rubber ovenoulding on the expensive screwdriver

[chilly tartan]

But if strapon can do 7 years surely lienus's super driver can do 7 too

[plain fern]

Which is a very damageable part

[chilly tartan]

However

[plain fern]

Snap on is lifetime, beve sturk is 7 years

[chilly tartan]

Strapon has probably been selling their exact model of driver for years and years, they know from actual retail use how long their drivers last

With large sample size

[plain fern]

And snap on has economy of scale, confidence that they will never run out of inventory, worst case they'll upgrade you to the replacement, since they'll always have a ratcheting screwdriver

[raw cairn]

Well, a basic handle one, the handle can crack or spin and break off in its entirety.

If it's a ratchet one, the gears could just snap and its gg

[chilly tartan]

I feel like it'd be really hard to torque the driver to death

Bits would break before that

But ratchets can definitely be torqued to death

[plain fern]

I was wrong. LTT screwdriver handle isn't overmoulded, but I'm curious about the "edm soft touch finish"

[raw cairn]

Yeah pretty tru. U need to have a legit crap plastic handle or something for it to snap internally

[plain fern]

Also, Linus is going hard on the magnet in the tip. If a magnet is a dud, that's a key feature mangled

[chilly tartan]

Ifixit drivers are all metal, even if you had their old model with a hole for using a pry bar type of thing. I think bits would break first

Magnet is nice

I do want to driver but I might wait for a while

[plain fern]

The bit loader, and the little forks that hold the bits, are an easily damaged part probably

[chilly tartan]

It'll be sick having a nice big ratcheting driver that works with all my ifixit bits

[plain fern]

Ifixit actually has plastic handles on their cheap kits now

[chilly tartan]

Eww

I got a pro tech toolkit a while ago, very good

[plain fern]

The one with the 'sim removal pin' in the spinny cap

Only on the small bit driver though

The 1/4 hex driver is still metal af

[chilly tartan]

The pro tech toolkit is definitely the buy

That with the ltt driver will be very epicly

[plain fern]

Speaking of screwdrivers, anyone else tired of rubbery parts in fixed handle screwdrivers?

[chilly tartan]

Rubbr can be better for gripping ig

[plain fern]

Was at the homeless despot yesterday morn, and didn't see any sets that looked palatable

Can be, but it can also peel, get nasty, interact poorly with a bunch of chemicals

And i feel it rubs inside of hand wrong way pretty often

[chilly tartan]

Yeah

Very tru

[plain fern]

Where did the old wiha "powerhandle" drivers go

[chilly tartan]

No idea

[late void]

discussion almost a year ago about the price of the backpack:

[chilly tartan]

Lol

[raw cairn]

[plain fern]

They forgot the merch tax

[chilly tartan]

Can't forget the supposed month delay to add a airtag pocket

[raw cairn]

It can pull a truck

Stronk

[chilly tartan]

🤓

[raw cairn]

Pulling trucks not covered under warranty

[chilly tartan]

If they pull a truck they should do it live and pull an elon

[raw cairn]

Yeah have it just shred in half

[chilly tartan]

Would be so fucking funny if it just ripped in half

[raw cairn]

Linus just goes, huh.

[blazing wave]

They’ve had this for years

Was it one of their driver sets?

Or was it like a kit for repairing some specific thing (like an iPhone screen repair kit or smthn)

[blazing wave]

Lol it costs more than that just to physically produce it, people are just accustomed to massive scale

[late void]

my essential kit is plastik screwdriver but a more expensive kit i bought has metal screwdrivers

[blazing wave]

Interesting

I have the pro tech and manta, both are all metal drivers

[raw cairn]

[blazing wave]

Got an iPhone 6 screen repair kit a few years ago and it came with one of the plastic ones

[raw cairn]

Thousands of backpacks. Me small scale

[chilly tartan]

Is manta the big boy driver set

[raw cairn]

Me smol

[plain fern]

The minnow has plastic handle

I think moray might also have plastic

And i can't name any ifixit kit without thinking of the j2c ad

[blazing wave]

It’s the one with a big driver and a small driver

[blazing wave]

40k units is tiny compared to other companies

[raw cairn]

40k units.

Ahuh

[north oriole]

ltt back pack is still cheaper than a tumi 😄

at least that's what I tell myself haha

[raw cairn]

Like, the actually reasoning is higher quality materials and designs. But the cope of small scale doesnt apply here

It looks like a solid backpack.

[blazing wave]

Ltt is at microscopic scale compared to like, Herschel

[raw cairn]

Yeah, nobody is comparing them to best in class in terms of scale.

Ur fighting a ghost

[potent ocean]

They are, this thread started with the idea of the backpack being expensive

Scale was brought up, as LTT can’t rely on economy of scale to bring the price down

[chilly tartan]

I guess I got a long while to contemplate if I should re-order or not

[north oriole]

off topic since LTT screwdriver is coming, I guess ifixit won't be sponsoring in the future?

[blazing wave]

I think they probably will

I think ifixit kits and LTT screwdriver have distinctly different purposes to a degree

Obviously a screwdriver is a screwdriver

But ifixit kits tend to lean towards small electronic repairs

[chilly tartan]

Also like

Ltt driver costs as much as some of ifixits best kits

Talk about niche

[blazing wave]

A high quality screwdriver isn’t super niche

Snap on and other companies have been doing it for years

[chilly tartan]

I don't know one person irl that has a snap on doe

[blazing wave]

Do you know mechanics?

[chilly tartan]

What

I'm not a mechanic

[raw cairn]

The guy I quoted brought up scale

[chilly tartan]

All my friends are either NEET or networking guys

[elder kite]

neet?

Near earth extra terrestrial?

[chilly tartan]

Not employed, in education, or training

Lol

[raw cairn]

The avg discord user

[chilly tartan]

☠️

[blazing wave]

Yeah saying that LTT doesn’t have the scale to make it cheaper, at scale the cost per unit goes down. LTT can’t rely on massive scale for cheaper units.

[blazing wave]

That’s who would own a snap on screwdriver, it’s people in trades that can’t have it fail

[raw cairn]

N...no.

It's because of the warranty

Pretty ironic youd mention snap on

It's part of the reason they're so exspensive and have such a strong loyalty base.

But uhh. Yeah, that's kind of the crux of this whole drama.

[chilly tartan]

😵‍💫

[raw cairn]

[chilly tartan]

I just love warranty

[chrome night]

I have 2 iFixIt Pro Tech Toolkits and 1 manta set(?) (the set with a big and a small driver) - will still get the LTT screwdriver

one of the differences is the fact it's a ratchet screwdriver though

[chilly tartan]

Ofc

I think it's a pretty good match up since the ifixit bits will work with lienus driver

[chrome night]

yeah, they should, but more than that, the LTT screwdriver is bigger, sometimes that's better

but then again I've also bought some Würth tools, which is basically some of the most expensive brands you can get

they are expensive because their target audience don't care what it costs, they just need their tools to work at all times, and as long as that's the case, they pay whatever

spiraling out of context

[raw cairn]

Banned

[chilly tartan]

Back

[chrome night]

pack

[chilly tartan]

Mmm how long does ltt take to refund

Says refunded but it ain't in my money

[chrome night]

how do you have money in your money? 😮

it does take up to a week I guess, and it's not on LTT either, it's just the amount of time the banks take to transfer money sometimes - especially if it's across countries

usually happens within 24 hours though (or a business day)

[raw cairn]

Probably because shopify

[chrome night]

does shopify process the payments though?

whatever bank LMG uses has to transfer to whatever bank Rugg uses, so there will be some delay regardless of what software you placed an order through

international transfers take some extra time usually, at least does to/from Norway, maybe it's better elsewhere, idk

[vivid stirrup]

Bruh

[chrome night]

wym bruh?

[raw cairn]

Not sure, but isnt that mainly the whole point of their buisness? Storefront and payment processing?

Never used it, so idk

[chrome night]

usually you integrate with a payment processor such as PayPal or Stripe

[raw cairn]

I'd think shopify would do that, deals with that crap so lmg doesnt have to

[chrome night]

I would guess it's like a config area where you fill your API keys for whatever payment processor(s) you want to use, I don't remember seeing anything in particular on lttstore 😮

eitherway it doesn't really matter much, it would still take up to a week worst case, though I haven't had this stuff take over 48 hours before I think, after the store handles it that is

[split bluff]

I had resent the mail and still haven't heard back. Currently it has been 2 weeks and still haven't heard anything from the support team...

[chrome night]

yeah, it seems they have some work to do on their support system, though afaik they aren't currently that many working on answering support tickets

[split bluff]

Mmmh

I guess I'll just wait

[chilly tartan]

Hmmmmmm not sure if I should reorder

[vivid stirrup]

Why maybe September 😭

[chilly tartan]

Waiting until early Nov kinda a lot

[potent ocean]

That’s like next month

[vivid stirrup]

2 month for me 🙃

Takes a month to ship

[balmy storm]

I felt so lucky to get my shipment in 2½ days

got squeezed onto a direct flight from Seattle to Phoenix

[vivid stirrup]

I'm uk so 😋

Couldn't find the tea gif I wanted so this will have to do

[raw cairn]

Sorry to hear my dude.

[vivid stirrup]

I'll live with no screwdriver

[balmy storm]

I'm a little disappointed he floated MSRP at like $70

[chilly tartan]

I think price has been known to be uppy for a while

[candid fern]

I'm buying multiple screw drivers lmao

Orange black to stock
Orange silver to use
Black on silver for my fiance
And black on silver for my friend

[blazing wave]

Mention nick on twitter, he’ll probably get you help pretty fast

[split bluff]

Alrighty will do

[potent ocean]

South Africa here… so like 6 weeks shipping

[vivid stirrup]

i feel you bro

takes 4 weeks to get to the uk and is delivered on the 5th week

[potent ocean]

Also the excitement of not knowing if the package will ever arrive

It’s about a week to get here, then 5 weeks stuck in customs

[strange tangle]

My support ticket has been in the system since the 26th of July with no response. My constellation shirt is peeling where the size label is.

[plain fern]

Just think of it as a rogue Galaxy

[sullen frost]

Hey what’s up fellow backpack friends

[cobalt adder]

Trust me Bro

[sullen frost]

I trust Linus, been following him (his videos, not him) for years

So excited for backpack

The one I’m using right now is lame, and so look forward to this. Other backpacks out there just didn’t seem to suit my needs

[sullen frost]

They should add a backpack sticker

[chilly tartan]

I am backpackless!!

[native lance]

Requesting Anthony plushie.

[blazing wave]

Bet the 2023 set has one

kinda hilarious the 2022 set has a screwdriver sticker, when the screwdriver still isn’t out yet

[blazing wave]

I think something went wrong with their email system at some point, there’s been a number of people in here with extremely long waits

Mention nick on twitter and he will probably get it sorted

[potent ocean]

I thought that I had a screwdriver sticker in the 2022 set, I’ll check

Yup, I have that sticker

[ivory scarab]

og sticker pack also has a screwdriver sticker

[chrome night]

I have 0 stickers 😦

didn't even pick the free stickers when I ordered from LTT store

neither time haha, but I don't really care that much for stickers - they'd end up in a drawer or something collecting dust

[chilly tartan]

Fr what do you do with stickers

I guess if ur that type u could put them on ur laptop or smth

Like people do with cringe programming languages

[serene cargo]

Can't put stickers on my work issued laptop 😦

[chilly tartan]

The only time I've ever wanted I apply a sticker is I think it'd be kinda funny to put all the Intel Nvidia corsair badges on the front of my pc like old ass computers had

But I did not do that

[peak halo]

Oof, I regret visiting the forums after two weeks away

Also two weeks without a response from support

[chilly tartan]

Rly?

They responded to my request to cancel order in 1 or 2 business day

[ivory scarab]

at an old job we would stick the stickers from builds on our vacuum cleaner, thing had about 20 intel inside stickers at one point

[chilly tartan]

Haha

Shoulda put it on the oven

Or water heater

[peak halo]

At my former job they had a habit of throwing out all of the little packs of documentation that came with new Macs, so I ended up with boxfuls of Apple stickers

[chrome night]

do you want some more? I have a few laying around

I'll ship them to you if you pay shipping 😛

I should have anyway, I may have thrown them away, can't remember

[strange tangle]

I did, but haven't heard back yet there either:

[blazing wave]

Follow up on twitter, might’ve been lost in the sea of notifications last week

I think something broke with their email system during the 22nd-27th ish

Cus there have been quite a few people in here and on twitter

[strange tangle]

I went and sent a new email mentioning my former ticket #, so hopefully I will get a response soon.

I love my constellation shirt, but the letters are falling off where the size label is

[blazing wave]

Does that rlly do anything?

[chilly tartan]

Linu S

[blazing wave]

FABR
ENCHINE O

🗑

[stuck torrent]

That's the sort of thing that I strongly suspect the TMB warranty covers, that most other businesses likely would just kinda shrug off.

[vivid stirrup]

thats usually due to sweat tbh it happens with my converse

[peak halo]

I’m assuming these are the new LTT cable management products Linus has been taking about for months? https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0nEMESialfx-5aQKqk3tEbX6GLakPa2J

[stuck torrent]

that+I think there was kind of a frame thing mentioned in the creator warehouse video thing iirc.

[brave latch]

Hello, I would like to ask a question about the WAN Hoodie in regard of the size. I asked support my question the 21th of July (42174 just in case) and I think that they have too many questions as I did not yet get an answer. So I'm asking here because maybe some owner can help 🙂
Is it a big sized hoodie ? Is the size L good for these measures :

• Shoulder: 122cm ~48in
• Chest: 109.5cm ~43.3in
• Hip: 95.5cm ~37.6in or do I need an XL size?
  Thanks ^^

[bright ginkgo]

Just got mah first ever LTT merch!!

[bright ginkgo]

To answer your question I'm wearing the large and I have a 45" chest and it fits snug but not tight so it's still comfy and well fitting, the shoulders have some extra room in them so your shoulders should be fine for the large size, my hips are 39" so considering I can still zip it up and not be constricted I think if good to go with large

[bright ginkgo]

I actually really want this in conjunction with the secretlab magnus desk

[vale birch]

did anyone else get a small refound on there backpack orders?? so i order the backpack wave 1 and picked the GPU poster card. and today a fewhours ago i got a 19.99$ refound, any ide why?

[dry bolt]

double charge on shipping because a glitch added extra shipping on the free item

[vale birch]

well shipping to Sweden so it was already high , it was 65$ and tax was 79$ so i dident know that :l

[sand breach]

yikes

[vale birch]

oversea shipping am i right 🙃

[ivory breach]

Yeeeup

[peak halo]

I remember Linus talking on WAN about a unit sized for holding up power strips - hope it fits UK-sized strips which are often twice the size of US strips

[chilly tartan]

What is a cable management arch

[peak halo]

A C-shaped device that sits on top of cables to hold them in place. A lot of similar products use Velcro or glue to attach to a surface

[chrome night]

I spotted an LTT water bottle today, at work 😮

someone working for one of the other companies in the office building had one

perhaps he's in here too

[sullen frost]

if I see someone with LTT merch where I work, that would be amazing

[brave latch]

Thanks a lot for your answer 🙂 I have 2 more: How long since you first get it ? Will you say it's comfy ? ^^

[elfin steeple]

Ah man that sucks, I had to log a ticket today as my barely worn WAN Hoodie zip doesnt move

[elfin steeple]

I take mine to work to

[blazing wave]

Thought this was a mirror pic at first and was thoroughly confused

[blazing wave]

I don’t have the WAN hoodie, but I have the short circuit hoodie which afaik is identical other than print. I’ve had mine for a while, and it holds up well. Quite comfortable but the hand thumb hole things get a bit annoying sometimes.

[light bramble]

Backpack sales have slowed down quite a bit haven't they

[scenic spire]

The warranty "scandal" has made a few people nervous. Expect them to pick up when the formalised warranty is live and the social media heat has died down.

Also, it's a $250 backpack. Most people are not used to paying that kind of money for a backpack. It can take a while for people to justify that kinda expense, especially in this economy. I am confident it'll be worth it personally, but if your last back pack was $50... You're probably gonna wanna see some more 3rd party reviews.

[subtle jetty]

wave 2 slowed down a bit until the very end of it before wave 3 hit

[light bramble]

what scandal?

I mean I watched WAN show but like

Like sorry LTT isn't Samsonite putting these out

[blazing wave]

Not really, if anything wave 3 has sped up a bit I think

Either way, they’ve sold all their stock through to November at this point, so they’ve got plenty of time to sell them

^ships october 30th but that means ur getting it in November

[light bramble]

I was Wave 1

[blazing wave]

Same

[light bramble]

me gusta big bag

Especially now that I have an iPad Pro in addition to my DSLR

[scenic spire]

Hence the "scandal" was in quotes

[blazing wave]

LTT keycaps wen

Need to match my desk pad

[chrome night]

Same, I just didn’t bring it for lunch, it sat in my office 😛

[final quest]

Omg please

But on the other Hand, the K70 uses some weirdo Layout...

[chrome night]

get a proper keyboard!

jk 😛 or do i?

[final quest]

Give me a keyboard with simelar feel, full size, Media Buttons and volume wheel (or knob) including Mute Button.

And also mx silver or something close enough not romer-g

Then i might Switch.

[chrome night]

well, people have their reasons for using what they do, I'm not gonna sit here and say K70 is a bad pick for you 🙂 at the end of the day, if you like it, you like it

[final quest]

I simply didnt find a keyboard that would suit me better lol

[chrome night]

I just hate it so much and think it's so darn expensive for what it is, that's why I made the joke that wasn't so much of a joke haha

[final quest]

Though id love type c...

[chrome night]

I keep going back to my Ducky One2 Mini for some reason, but I do like media keys

idk why people are so adamant about a numpad though, it does have its uses, but most people don't really need it 😮

[final quest]

Expensive? I paid 120 Euros - thats pretty fair for that much i get, gimme something that costs less and is just as fine.

[chrome night]

Keychron? 😛

missing media buttons though

it's at the end of the day a matter of which compromises you can live with

[final quest]

I use it always, numbers, small calculations, sometimes for hotkeys etc.

[chrome night]

yeah, fair, I just found the number row to be sufficient for me, even when using a calculator

[final quest]

I hate it lol

[chrome night]

I hated it in the beginning too, but what I hated more was my mouse constantly hitting my keyboard 😂

[final quest]

Keychron doesnt even give me lights xD

[final quest]

Skill issue

Use 20k dpi and move your mouse 1mm for 3 turns ingame

[chrome night]

nonetheless an issue/inconvenience to me

I had the problem while using desktop as well

but does the K70 use that weird of a layout? I can't recall anything too off with it

[final quest]

Long Story short, for the things i need and want the K70 mk2 was the best choice for me, cannot find anything better.

[chrome night]

I have 2 K70 kbds at home collecting dust

I have the mk1 I think though

[final quest]

The keycaps are a bit different, forgot the changes exactly but not normal sizes for some Keys

[chrome night]

yeah, you don't have to justify your purchase to me tbf, at the end of the day all that matters is that it works for you ^^

[chrome night]

ahh, specifically for the mk2 or all of the k70 revisions?

[final quest]

The thing is - for the price i also simply dont know anthing better.

[final quest]

Idk, believe its for all k70, maybe even corsair in general idk

May also only be the K70 mk2 - who knows

[chrome night]

yeah, that I can definitely see as a valid argument, I did really like the volume wheel on my K70, as for media buttons, that's available on other keyboards too with competitive price, but the volume wheel!

[final quest]

Other things i specifically need, 1khz polling rate (8khz is even for me useless - wont get into more Detail here, but has to do with debounce), the lighting, per key rgb is nice, but realistically i only care for anything thru key rgb cause readability in the dark and stuff.

[chrome night]

I've used my StreamDeck for media buttons, and my Ducky One2 Mini has volume adjustment with fn + ,/. keys - sufficient for me, at least enough to not bother with a K70 😮

[final quest]

The rest was already told, so fact is, i couldnt even find anything else that would fit me like at all xD

[final quest]

You say the K70 is expensive but use a ducky and a steam deck...

Lol

[chrome night]

not really an argument tbf 😛 I have like 8 keyboards lol

including a K70 (well 2 I guess, so 9 kbds, but one is broken)

[final quest]

Lets just say we are different.

[chrome night]

it's expensive compared to what you get imo, but I don't have the same reasons you do for considering it, hence why it to me is expensive - I could find alternatives that are competitively priced and would be far better pick for me

[final quest]

Btw i am actually thinking about making my K70 mk2 type c, its not hard at all, but only Problem is that id loose the Extra USB Port...

[chrome night]

we established that already tbf 🙂

[chrome night]

don't need to lose the extra USB port

[final quest]

Repeat, Name me something where id get more for my money.

[final quest]

I do.

[chrome night]

I took apart my mk1, because I wanted to use it for practice, by removing the cable and making it detachable like most keyboards are these days

[final quest]

I could put in a hub or even a custom pcb with hub but if i dont i lose the Port.

[chrome night]

so to keep your keyboard as a USB hub, you'd need to fit a USB hub module into the keyboard, wire one of the up to the PCB and the other to the extra USB port

[chrome night]

yeah, exactly

[final quest]

The K70 mk2 has 2 Sets of usb wires in the big ass tether to the PC.

[final quest]

Yea - i wont.

[chrome night]

yeah, think all of the K70s have that, so annoying imo

yeah, then you'll lose a USB port 😛

[final quest]

Dont get me wrong, making a custom fit pcb for that with hub on it etc would be nice, but - too much effort. And too high price cause im only building one and would have to order the pcb.

[chrome night]

but if you're serious about being open to alternatives, you could always ask in #peripherals, and someone would probably help you find something that could possibly be suitable, but it may also just end up with K70 being the only viable option with regard to what you get for your money

[chrome night]

lol yeah, you're talking about $120 for K70 and not finding alternatives that are in the same price category - sounds to be like you're considerate of how much you spend on a kbd, so a custom PCB etc sounds like way too much money 😛 idk how much it'd cost exactly, but it'd be significant

could probably buy 2-3 K70s for the same price at the end of it, especially if you factor in the time you spent getting there

[final quest]

Bout 25-30 Dollars for 5, cause ordering one literally isnt cheaper.

[chrome night]

at that point you may as well explore other custom keyboards I think

ahh, okay, cheaper than I thought

[final quest]

Including cost for typ c Port, hub and parts id may need including assembly (i wont solder a hub IC by Hand - no Chance) i would maybe end up at like 40 just for that gimmik.

[chrome night]

LTT keyboards, switches, keycaps, chassis when!?

custom cables too!!

yeah, it would be a hassle, so unless you consider it fun to do, it's probably not worth it 😛

[final quest]

Id actually thought of a custom keyboard, but i wont find something that could replace my K70 - so either 60% it is or complete custom. And also much more expensive than the K70...

[chrome night]

and also; yeah, StreamDeck is expensive for what you get, since we visited that topic - though at the time I bought, there wasn't really any alternatives to it

[chrome night]

yeah, main reason I hate K70 is the sound profile it has while typing and the feel of the red switches - it just feels so cheap (I paid nearly $200 for mine tbf, hence why I said it was expensive)

[final quest]

Designing a pcb and stuff is fun, but i dont see that much of a benefit when i could as well just put in a small type c Breakout and hot glue it in.

Heck i could even Design and 3d Print a custom bracket.

[final quest]

Mine feels Hella Solid and i just like the silvers, and the Sound is pretty cool for me.

[chrome night]

yeah, definitely, I'm not sure what I will end up with - I will modify my K70 😛 maybe I'll go crazy and make it wireless or wired, and a USB-C port (with or without hub)

but I have too many projects, so I get nowhere

[final quest]

I have too less projects lol

[chrome night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1008296587044335687/IMG_8891.jpg

like this one

I'm working on integrating the POWERPLAY charging pad into my desk, so I can just whatever mousepad I desire on it, and it'll be entirely seamless

[final quest]

Okay not really, im planning a 8x8 rgb led cube all with lcd control etc, and also a small pico to put between a keyboard and PC for ugh stuff.

[final quest]

Watch out with distance.

[chrome night]

LTT desks when!? I remember the Paradise desk on Kickstarter, cool concept!

[final quest]

Its really limited and the efficency gets less with more distance.

[chrome night]

yeah, iirc the mousepad included is 2mm thick, I've seen people use 4mm too, will just be slower charging

I won't put anything else between though, so it should be good

[final quest]

Thats not quite how it works - but close enough lol

The Powerplay is also great for playing without battery.

[chrome night]

yeah, fair, but it will work at least 😛

without battery? as in just powering the mouse entirely with the charging pad?

[final quest]

Yes.

The reason for Powerplay...

[chrome night]

oh cool, didn't even know that it would work with battery taken out 😛

[final quest]

Thats how i got to know about it.

[chrome night]

I did manage to power the charging pad directly off of a USB cable though, so I don't need the other part of the POWERPLAY hub

[final quest]

But i dont know if simply getting the battery out works.

[chrome night]

maybe I will attempt at one point haha

I bought a few of their mice (2 of them were second hand though) to potentially mod or for parts to mod some other mouse

[grand parrot]

Lmao
Shipping price caught me off guard today ngl

[chilly tartan]

Can't decide if I wanna reorder backpag or not

[brave latch]

Thank you for your answer and duly noted for the thumb hole things 🙂

[serene cargo]

Go ahead and reorder the backpack. What's the worst that could happen

[blazing wave]

I recently got a gmmk pro, definitely more expensive than the k70, but probably has a decent amount of the features you want. No numpad tho.

You can buy separate numpad modules, pretty sure GMMK is making one pretty soon too

[final quest]

Definetly not doing that, would be like double the price of my K70.

Let alone me being practically unable to sell it lol

Id also have no issues in using some Chinese hotswap Board, as Long as the Chip is somewhat decent (which would allow me to Flash some custom Firmware in the worst case).

But i dont see any benefit, besides finally having type c.

[blazing wave]

only real reason to go custom is for the custom aspect, exactly what switches you want with exactly what profile/material keycaps etc ¯_(ツ)_/¯

At the end of the day seems like you like your k70 a lot, so no real reason to switch

[final quest]

I never wanted to also xD

I am a heavy custom dude though, but without getting full custom (with my own case and pcb etc) i wouldnt get a keyboard i really want - the K70 rn is pretty much perfect for me - just the cable annoys me a lot (being big and stuff).

[glossy phoenix]

It’s already up for pre-order, but $129.99 USD. Kinda nuts price for a num pad imo. Lol

[blazing wave]

Yeah I had only seen the announcement post lol, went to check it just a minute ago and saw the price

[final quest]

It has rgb, slider and (i believe) a knob though

[blazing wave]

Yeah

knob

[final quest]

But wild considering i paid 120 for my K70 mk2 with silver Switches...

Also can someone help me out? I was sure the k70 has a non-standart keycap layout/size but i cannot find anything about it... I was thinking about getting new ones for some Level of customisation.

[blazing wave]

Looks like it is OEM?

Not sure but that’s what a guy on Reddit said

[final quest]

OEM just says its non-standart - but what interests me is what changes there are actually

Well yea i might Look more around lol

[chilly tartan]

Worst thing is I waste $300 because I never end up using the bag

[final quest]

Just sell it then.

If its in the time where its not that easy to get it fast it surely gets Sold fast.

[blazing wave]

Pretty sure OEM is a profile

[final quest]

Thats not the Layout im talking about...

Thats Profile, like shape of the actual keys, but i dont care about that like at all xD

What needs to fit though is the size of the keycaps, like f. E. When the spacebar is slightly larger and the keys around it more narrow, stuff like that yk

[blazing wave]

Ah I was confused what you were talking abt

A lot of keycap sets will come with alternatives in case your keyboard is a bit different, hard to say with Corsair tho cus they may throw in some extra funky stuff

Is this a k70?

[final quest]

Yes it is

[blazing wave]

That’s @dawn dune’s keyboard

[final quest]

Also, having non-shinethru keycaps on an backlit Board looks horrible to me qwq

Though the keycaps themself Look dope, well White isnt my color, but the Design yk, pretty nice tbh.

[chilly tartan]

What

[final quest]

Your backpack.

[chilly tartan]

"The time where it's not that way to get it fast"

I'm already not getting it fast myself

Just not sure what you mean

[little hemlock]

over 19000 backpacks left in waves 3 and 4. Should be able to buy one whenever you're ready, until that stock runs out, and then who knows how long until you can get one

[chilly tartan]

I really kinda doubt that it will be very easy to resell a bag

Now, to anger some people. Is the warranty transferable? 😈

[blazing wave]

It’s pretty common for high end bags, peak design has an entire second hand section on their website

[chilly tartan]

Mhh maybe

[blazing wave]

I could sell my everyday 30L for about $250 on their marketplace, bought it for $300

High quality bags last long enough to be resold

[chilly tartan]

Definitely a wee bit more popular of a brand than lttstore.com

[final quest]

Look at the subscribercount from ltt. I guess they are fairly popular.

I am really sure reselling the ltt backpack wont be much of an issue - if people do like it as much as Linus tries to tell us it is.

[blazing wave]

Yeah I really doubt there’d be much of an issue reselling it

If 20k people have bought a new one at full price, a pretty good number would buy a moderately used one for slightly less price

[chilly tartan]

Fair enough

[dawn dune]

[chilly tartan]

I will wait a while since 3rd wave is gonna sell super slow anyways, and prob re-order

Maybe if wave 3 sells slow enough I could even see reviews before ordering

[dawn dune]

Correct.

[chilly tartan]

Rly wish they seeded reviewers with bags btw...

[dawn dune]

I found a layout online after digging for forever. It's saved in my Chrome and I'm at work at the moment.
I think I can pull up my bookmarks on my phone but it'll take me a minute to check them all.
Most are simply uncommon sizes but are included in stuff like the NovelKeys_ keycaps set Chas showed on my keyboard outside the spacebar.

[chilly tartan]

Does it actually fit on a plane.. I'd like to know

[dawn dune]

@final quest https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/1v77uz/custom_keycaps_for_k70/

Actually took me seconds. Lol. Bookmarks bar, then had search and I just put K70. Sick.

[candid fern]

https://youtu.be/I1rCEL9uGwk?t=8311
Linus literally said in the last WAN show that he is not even remotely worried about backpack stock.

If they continue to sell about 50/day for the next 2 - 3 months

the backpacks will sell at a comfortable rate

He also expects that as the holidays come, sales will go up due to well.. holidays

[final quest]

You dont know what im talking about lol

They are selling in waves, not like "its there in 2 days". If someone wants the backpack really Bad, theyd buy it for near full price second Hand just to get it fast. Thats the thing im trieng to tell...

[chilly tartan]

What holiday is coming up

Christmas is 4 months away, 2 months after the 4th wave

[chilly tartan]

I assume they intend on having stock on hand after the waves are done

[candid fern]

Wave 4 is Nov 10, Thanksgiving is November. Christmas is 1 month away from November.

[chilly tartan]

Ok only 1 I guess

[candid fern]

Linus isn't worried and you guys shouldn't be either

[chilly tartan]

I not worried about anything

Just can't decide to order or not

[potent ocean]

Why?

[chilly tartan]

Because I'm not convinced it's that great of a bag and I don't know if I would use it enough to make it worth it

[chilly tartan]

Is it really 50 a day??

[candid fern]

from what I've seen, they seem to be selling about 50 - 150 per day

[chilly tartan]

Every day goes by I wish I coded up a quick tracker

No point bothering now but I wish I did that on day 1

Even at 150 a day that puts them to sell out only like a week before wave 3 drops

[potent ocean]

Valid point, may be wait a bit before ordering? It’s lot of money to be on the fence about

[chilly tartan]

I'm gonna wait

Hopefully wave 1/2 will deliver before wave 3 ends, I'd love to see more reviews and videos

[potent ocean]

I get the feeling that wave 1/2 are going to be late

https://twitter.com/nicklmg/status/1559604162689523713?s=21&t=mf1hcBLXKSqXkK1WHSuYVw

Nick Light (@nicklmg)

@titanreceiver88 We'll share more info as soon as we feel like it's "solid" enough to provide an update

Allocated an extra 3 weeks beyond their expected arrival for Wave 1 (on what is supposed to be a 4 week shipment) and yeah they're now projecting that we probably won't hit that. Pretty wild.

Twitter · Aug 16, 2022, 6:13 PM

[chilly tartan]

I remember someone saying that the backpack is so big it actually doesn't fit at certain airline seats which is a real lame thing

Due to its size it would be a good option for travel for me

[chrome night]

I hope screwdriver comes out in time for me to reach out to support for them to merge the orders into one shipment, if possible 😮

[chilly tartan]

Cos it is way too big for a school type of bag

[potent ocean]

Surely you store it above the seats?

In the overhead luggage

[chrome night]

I'll be taking the bag on an airplane in December, assuming everything goes according to plan

[chilly tartan]

I can't tell if I'm stupid I don't get what this tweet means

The shipment is late but they planned on giving it extra time. But it's really late?

[potent ocean]

If you follow the thread, he is worried about the ports, and seems to imply that wave 1 might arrive at LTT after they had planned

Despite building in 3 weeks of leeway

[chilly tartan]

Damn

I'm sure everyone will be super happy at that

[potent ocean]

Yup, seems it’s not “official” yet

[chilly tartan]

There was zero way in hell they were ever going to hit back to school what was linus talking about when he offhandedly mentioned that in the first look store video

[chrome night]

not a huge deal to me personally if it ends up being the case 😮

[potent ocean]

This bag seems terrible for school use

[chilly tartan]

Absolutely

[chrome night]

that was a long time ago though lol, a lot can change in that time

[chilly tartan]

No no I mean the vid from 2 weeks ago

[chrome night]

yeah, probably not ideal, unless you're bringing a laptop and also lugging around all of your books at all times 😛

[chilly tartan]

Go to the airbag pocket timestamp and he says "... the thing that delayed the backpack past the back to school season" they were never going to hit that

[chrome night]

he specifically said they wouldn't hit back to school time though, but he was hoping it wouldn't be too long after... he also said that if you wanted it for when you got back to school, you had to make damn sure you were in wave 1 for there to be any chance of that happening 😛

[chilly tartan]

Even if they wanted to

It's a bad bag for school, way too bulky

I just want it to carry all my pc/gaming stuff besides monitor. And for travel

[chrome night]

yeah, I will just fill it up with my on the go tech stuff

like my laptop, powerbank, iFixIt kit, LTT screwdriver etc

[chilly tartan]

Yeas

[chrome night]

eventually I'll get a portable monitor or two too

[chilly tartan]

My current bag is slightly too small and way too weak fabric to hold my pc and keyboard and controllers

[chrome night]

of course it will also carry my LTT waterbottle

I got a $30 bag off of Amazon, it's not great, but it's not terrible either 😛

[chilly tartan]

Good for school though, and it'll be nice to have a second bag I don't need to dump everything out to bring my pc somewhere

I think it's very goofy the water bottle thing is on the inside

I don't really bring a water bottle with me anyways but, kinda wack

[chrome night]

wym kinda wack?

[chilly tartan]

I've never seen a bag personally that has water bottle holder on the inside

[chrome night]

same, but I like it

it's not a hiking backpack, so I don't need it to be that easily accessible

[chilly tartan]

Better as a wine bottle holder 👺

[chrome night]

perhaps I should just use my hiking backpack for travel backpack, and cancel my LTT backpack order

[chilly tartan]

Probably is big enough for alcohol bottles lmao

[chrome night]

yeah, I don't buy alcohol, so I won't get to try it out 😂

[chilly tartan]

😎

[chrome night]

actually, I have like 4 bottles of wine here at home

got them for free at work like 4 years ago maybe? can't even remember 😂

[chilly tartan]

Nice

Yeah for sure gonna wait for some more customer reviews

They should definitely do a live stream tug of war with the bag and see how quickly they trash it

[chrome night]

I think they are planning on some video content where they among other things try to tow a car with it

iirc Linus hinted at that in one of their videos

[chilly tartan]

Better not be fp only lmao

[chrome night]

oh yeah, it will be another new fp sub for LTT Store Premium

[final quest]

You do know you can just put your hicking backpack full of stuff into the bulky storage Part of the ltt backpack and at the same time use the rest of the ltt backpacks storage?

I feel like this might be patched soon though.

[chrome night]

[chilly tartan]

He's too smart

[blazing wave]

How else am I supposed to stay hydrated all day every day??

[dawn dune]

Either the 21oz, 40, or soon upcoming 64oz waterbottles available from LTTstore.com

[blazing wave]

Good point, nothings stopping you from filling the 64oz with wine.

[dawn dune]

[blazing wave]

Actually, for peak efficiency you could probably fill it with the optimal mixture of ethanol and methanol.

[dawn dune]

Whatever floats your goat.

[blazing wave]

https://twitter.com/linustech/status/1560394497040691200?s=21&t=Vb3SCp1U2aPep-FD5yyFWg

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

Here is the finalized language for the LTT Backpack Limited Lifetime Warranty

The TMB Guarantee

Likes

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2022, 10:33 PM

[formal zenith]

So what scenario would get you a repair 2-3 years down the line providing you didn’t notice it right away

[blazing wave]

If it’s something caused by a deficiency in the bag, it’s intentionally vague because LTT (and every other company on this earth) don’t want to get absolutely fucked down the line.

[formal zenith]

Yeah seems fair enough

[chilly tartan]

I know many companies do it, but why is it called lifetime?

[formal zenith]

I’ve only ever made warranty claims on clear manufacturing defects or part failures that showed up relatively quickly

[chilly tartan]

It's going to take you a lifetime to notice a manufacturing defect?

[formal zenith]

Lifetime of the bag not the human that owns it

For instance a poorly installed rivet might not be immediately obvious but if it fails earlier than expected they’ll probably replace it

[chilly tartan]

Non transferable 😎 lfg

[formal zenith]

That’s true for most products through

[chilly tartan]

Maybe

I got no clue

Oh wait I read wrong

Or copy of original proof of purchase

I guess that is potentially transferable(?)

[formal zenith]

Yeah but no one selling it on eBay is going to share that

[chilly tartan]

True ig

[subtle jetty]

now that the bag has something written, all that's left is shipping the bags

right?

[peak smelt]

Well for them to actually receive their first bulk order

[blazing wave]

Sounds like the first container is estimated at about 2 weeks out

[blazing wave]

Because lifetime sounds better than “reasonable amount of time bag will last in your use case”

• ppl read lifetime and assume it’s their lifetime

[chilly tartan]

No. I see

It's not rly manufacturing errors but rather if it doesn't last as long as it should

[blazing wave]

Guy in nicks replies is complaining it doesn’t cover him ripping the bag lmao

[stuck torrent]

tbh they probably would cover it if you actually did hit up support about how you accidentally ripped and were sad, but rage tweeting about a lack of formal coverage is not the play.

[blazing wave]

They’d do something most likely

Not sure if they’d give you a new bag tho, that’s a pretty big sacrifice for someone else’s fuckup

[stuck torrent]

I suspect it's pretty resilient to ripping in actual practice so it's moot for non-malicious people not actively attacking their bag.

[blazing wave]

Yeah odds of it ripping accidentally/quickly seem pretty low

[subtle jetty]

I accidentally ripped my bag towing my car like Linus said I could do with it

new bag pls

[sullen frost]

Is there LTT towels by any chance

Like, a towel with the LTT logo embossed in the fabric

[viscid shell]

A quick search for "towel" on lttstore.com indicates there are indeed towels.
https://www.lttstore.com/products/towel

[sullen frost]

Awesome thanks

[blazing wave]

As far as LTT products go, the towels are ranked lower on my list ngl.

[sullen frost]

I Hope to get more LTT merch in the future. The Wave 1 backpack was my first

[blazing wave]

Most of their stuff is really good, towel is legit the only thing I’d say is sub-par

[sullen frost]

Been following the channel for over 5 years, I forgot when. Now that I’m making good income, I want merch

[blazing wave]

And that’s not to say it’s a bad towel, just doesn’t live up to my expectations for LTT products/price

[blazing wave]

Water bottle, workshop jacket, and desk mat are probably the best things I’ve got from them

Everything else is great, but those are the top 3

[stuck torrent]

The towel is 'fine', but only so instead of everything else being basically the best ___ I own. They're kinda thin instead of maximum poof like I might want from a towel.

They are very vibrant though, which exceeds most of the alternatives I've interacted with.

[blazing wave]

Agreed

Also kinda pricy imo

[idle stag]

I’ve been on the fence about buying them and I’m glad I saw this first!

I agree that they’re kinda pricey. That’s what’s stopped me from buying them

[subtle jetty]

I'm no LTT product connoisseur

maybe I'd get the water bottle at some point

[idle stag]

Oh the water bottles are 10,000% worth it

[blazing wave]

Yeah they’re just not as good value wise, you can get similar quality towels for a decent amount less

[heady wolf]

I hate to knock on the new backpack but based on the pics, here are my thoughts. The problem I have with this and every other backpack on the market is storage space. Every pocket is so minimalistic and if you have a thicker laptop and a bunch of accessories to go with it, you do not have enough room for it all. I have been stuck with my Targus backpack from 2008 because every backpack lack actual usable STORAGE. Who needs to store a lot of the small stuff you have pockets for? I want to be able to carry multiple thick external hard drives, cables for djing, possibly a dj controller, my Alienware from 2014, chargers, ect. I don't know many people that carry both a laptop and a tablet or 2. This seems over engineered for the price and storage capacity seems very lacking on the pics. Not saying what it is is a bad product but you didn't really think what the market really needs when designing this. You just made what would be trendy and sell and slapped your name on it. I was hoping this would be a product for people that actually DO WORK with their backpack for that price. Heck I would pay it if it had the same storage capacity as my old Targus backpack I can no longer get. Maybe even pay more. But you made a product for the trendy Starbucks wifi user and that is disappointing.

[blazing wave]

I got some of their hats during the 4 for the price of 2 a while ago those are some really good hats

[blazing wave]

I carry two laptops and a tablet, also there’s literally the one massive pocket, not sure what you mean by everything on it being so tiny and micro-organized? The main compartment is pretty much entirely open.

[idle stag]

Yeah I’m usually kinda iffy on spending more than $7 on a towel

That would be helpful for me because I carry a Microsoft surface and an iPad with me now a days

[blazing wave]

Not sure if you’ve read reviews or seen the short circuit on it, but the main pocket is quite large

[heady wolf]

It is large for what they sell today. But still small compared to what my old Targus backpack is

[blazing wave]

What’s the specific targus model?

[heady wolf]

Idk. I've had it since like 2008. The model number isn't just sewed in

[blazing wave]

Pic?

[heady wolf]

Quick search it is TG-TXL617

[blazing bay]

Water bottle and Beanie are the easiest recommendations imo

[balmy storm]

Has anybody bought the blue swim trunks?

[gleaming halo]

Alright so I have never bought anything from LTT store before.

What is a good thing to start out with?

[balmy storm]

I went with a mystery t shirt and mystery cable ties for my first purchase. Next will be a water bottle and something else

[gleaming halo]

Also, I don't know why, but I thought the backpack was like $1500.

And I was thinking, oh that's a great deal.

Then I went to LTT store and.. yeah. It's not.

Maybe I'll start with an LTT water bottle.

[balmy storm]

I really want the short circuit hoodie but it's still 100°F minimum every day out here

[balmy storm]

I didn't zoom in on your all-Walmart setup in the other channel but do you have a need for the LTT mouse pads or desk pads?

[gleaming halo]

Nah, I don't need them.

[idle stag]

Mystery water bottle was my first purchase

[gleaming halo]

torn between white and black ltt bottle or stealth

[blazing wave]

That boy do be a chonker lol

[heady wolf]

It is big but actually works well for what I use it for

[balmy storm]

Didn't even know that was being sold

[onyx drum]

I get that all you have to go on is pics and reviews, but it’s weird that you have such harsh criticism for the design intent and capacity of the backpack when you haven’t actually experienced it’s functionality or capacity. Maybe you can tell by looking at it, but to me it seems more spacious and practical than any bag I’ve had

[balmy storm]

They could fit a 17" laptop pretty easily plus a SteamDeck in a chonky case so I also think that the storage space looked pretty ample

and the laptop had a dedicated sleeve

[blazing wave]

Unless the dimensions I’m finding are wrong, the targus one is 2,542 cubic inches, and the LTT one is 2,803 cubic inches

I’m tired and not great at math tho so lemme check some stuff

[balmy storm]

2,803 Canadian is only 2,164 in American freedom units tbf

[idle stag]

Yeah it’s a 21 ounce V1 bottle so it still comes with the old lid but hey, it’s $10 cheaper

[blazing wave]

I think my math has gone wrong somewhere

[balmy storm]

Yeah noticed that it was the old lid, I would want the new lid so I might as well pay for the full price one

[blazing wave]

Not sure how tho

[blazing wave]

Both were measured in freedom units don’t worry

[idle stag]

I ended up just buying another lid off Amazon because I wasn’t a fan of either of the LTT offerings at the time but I do enjoy the new one now

I’ve bought another bottle since then that came with a new lid 😅

[blazing wave]

I think the dimensions on the website may just be rather generous, as they come out to ~45L where the listed external is 35L