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languid breach
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I did it

wise ivy
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281

magic meadow
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281

faint zealot
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ill wait for wave 2 bc im broke atm

wise ivy
magic meadow
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269 Nice!

languid breach
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Gonna be closer to 420 Euros

soft cliff
north oriole
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YOLO

wise ivy
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Or some plasma

languid breach
magic meadow
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Gotcha that's way higher then.

wise ivy
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255

north oriole
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I did it

wise ivy
magic meadow
faint zealot
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are all 3 waves tonight?

wise ivy
languid breach
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60 dollars taxes

soft cliff
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all waves are one right after each out till sold out

languid breach
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Hurts so much

stable ridge
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Idk if this is just coping cause I don’t have money but I don’t need the backpack until like august of next year so I’ll wait last wave lol

topaz oak
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everyone epically buying the bag its 345SGD without shipping costs and what not for me

light bramble
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I wa watching the video

languid breach
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My reasoning (which is totally not copium) is that I'm using my backpack literally every single day so it's a good investment

true wing
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206

wise ivy
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206

true wing
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Jinx!

light bramble
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and like, while watching I checked the bag out on the website and saw it go from 606 available

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to 475

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to 309

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They really got me with that sense of urgency XD

wise ivy
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188

timid elk
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175

wise ivy
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175

languid breach
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But yeah, this is big oof

light bramble
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Also Linus talking in WAN show about "I really hope these sell"

pine violet
light bramble
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meanwhile wave 1 about to sell out XD

wise ivy
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162

magic meadow
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151

wise ivy
magic meadow
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141

faint zealot
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wave 2 will def sell out b4 the weekend

soft cliff
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I am thinking Linus is happy he added a 4th wave order, as these are flying, can not wait to see how fast they sell during wan show

wise ivy
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123

light bramble
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Wave 1 Gang report in

wild otter
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I am so sorry Linus I cannot buy this

soft cliff
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I call wave 2 will sell out before Wan show and wave 3 sell out by end of wan show

magic meadow
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101

wild otter
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by the time the rest is out I will have spent $500 AUD!!!

north oriole
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I was like, I can get this instead of a Tumi

magic meadow
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75

light bramble
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I'm not gonna lie it was a genuinely impressive looking bag.

soft cliff
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Double Digits

magic meadow
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Numbers are flying

soft cliff
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How fast are you trying to checkout when you see only a handful left in wave 1

wise ivy
bleak halo
dusty merlin
timid elk
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We missed 69

magic meadow
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57

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F

north oriole
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F

soft cliff
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we all miss 69 lol

dusty merlin
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Ok, own up who bought 2 and ruined the fun

wise ivy
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I kept refreshing and it went from 75 to 68

blazing wave
magic meadow
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Quick someone edit it in dev mode

blazing wave
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gotta go fast

north oriole
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maybe in wave 2

light bramble
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If all 4 waves sell out I think Linus will make his money back just fine XD

ivory breach
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How many left for wave 1

magic meadow
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42

ivory breach
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Lmao

magic meadow
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The best number

blazing wave
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we don't know how up to date that is

faint zealot
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30

true wing
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COME ON

magic meadow
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30 now

ivory breach
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I got mine at about 8k left or so

blazing wave
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could be 0 at this point

wise ivy
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Meaning of life is the LTT backpack

ivory breach
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OOP THEY DROPPIN

dusty merlin
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30

magic meadow
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I got mine at 1534

blazing wave
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got mine at about 9700

light bramble
ivory breach
magic meadow
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9

blazing wave
ivory breach
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TF?

soft cliff
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So Funny that Shopify was video sponsor for backpack they must be doing well with there % fee

dusty merlin
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9.. wtg linus!

ivory breach
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30 to 9

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HELLO?

wild otter
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FUCK IT I GOT ONE

light bramble
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Bro the fact that the 9700 is ALREADY at this point

magic meadow
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It dropped from 141 to 101 earlier lol

ivory breach
faint zealot
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Wave 1 SOLD OUT !!!!!!!

magic meadow
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9987

ivory breach
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Gg

wise ivy
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WAVE 2

ivory breach
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GG

light bramble
wild otter
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IT WAS $488 RFHUIO;ERTGHUILEDRFTGHU

blazing wave
magic meadow
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We still doing countdown lol

dusty merlin
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And we're done

soft cliff
true wing
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Wave 2 is up

ivory breach
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Goddamn

wild otter
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WAVE 1 BAYBEEEEEE

blazing wave
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now we refresh til wave 2 is gone

soft cliff
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F for Wave 1

ivory breach
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You barely made it ong

wild otter
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BARELYYYYYY

ivory breach
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Gg @wild otter perhaps the last buyer of wave 1

wild otter
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I will do a review of it on my channel!

ivory breach
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Nice

normal tendon
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Wabe two boyos

magic meadow
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last sighting of wave 1. rip in pepperoni

ivory breach
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Honestly, gg linum g damn g

wild otter
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how do I know if I have wave 1??

ivory breach
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Order email says wave

magic meadow
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@valid pawn Congrats!

ivory breach
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Example

faint zealot
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LMG wont have to store them in Lab 2, they'll have to pack them and send them out directly from the shipping container

wild otter
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LESSS GOOO LAST WAVE 1

magic meadow
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they can just send me the container and ill take care of them >.>

light bramble
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Linus and Yvonne watching this like

timid elk
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Wave 1 gang

ivory breach
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First batch was supposed to be 20k so the month delay is probably to like spread out workload for sending em out

soft cliff
wild otter
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ENJOY MY MONEY LTT

faint zealot
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when is wave 4 sopposed to ship any1 know?

ivory breach
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I think

soft cliff
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WAVE 4 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY NOVEMBER 10

ivory breach
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Ahh

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Ty

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Its all on the site

faint zealot
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Ty

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wave 2 is flying too

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id laugh and be really happy for them if they sell out wave 4 before or during wan

iron thistle
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that's a nice backpack

magic meadow
soft cliff
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Your ebay listing

pine violet
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Agreed

iron thistle
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So, there's forty thousand units at $249 apiece.

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If we assume a profit margin of 40% that's like four million dollars of profit.

soft cliff
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just under $10Million USD

iron thistle
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Linus can fund his tech habit a bit better now. pogg

faint zealot
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Pays for Lab 2 renovations

light bramble
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So hold on

iron thistle
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Pays for his new house and all the gadgets he's putting in it 😝

echo shell
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Would the LTT bag fit my MSI GE76 Raider(17.3,inch, with the charger?
Laptop dimentions: 15.63"x 10.57"x 1.08" Inches
idk the charger size but it is 240 WAT

light bramble
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When exactly did the bag officially go on sale

languid breach
hot summit
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Around 5 hours ago

echo shell
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it is a big chunki boi

soft cliff
timid elk
iron thistle
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Ah, okay. I just guessed 40% because that seems standard in a lot of business.

echo shell
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but would that big pouch for the laptop hold like 5 pounds?

iron thistle
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Imagine how scary it is to buy ten million dollars of backpacks

echo shell
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*6.4 pounds

hot summit
soft cliff
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I know the center is call the bag of holding but i did not see any warnings about not putting another bag of holding inside, so they could have put all 40k bags inside one and just air shipped the one and save time and shipping cost.....

iron thistle
magic meadow
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Alternatively they could have just used a wish spell.

faint zealot
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@languid breach short cicuit vid showcases the bag really well 5:55 is the timestamp you want for laptops

north oriole
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planning to put a camera bag insert in the bag of holding. hopefully it fits

soft cliff
north oriole
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bases on short circuit it should 😹

faint zealot
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screwdrivers are probably gonna fly much fatser than these bags

stable ridge
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Definitely

faint zealot
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less niche of a product i think

stable ridge
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It’s also more digestible in terms of price

soft cliff
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Just look how happy linus is

faint zealot
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video still has 1/5 of normal views for the channel

soft cliff
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or about a backpacks worth lol

light bramble
stable ridge
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Orange on silver is probably the best bet long term but whatever

magic meadow
faint zealot
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avg of 17.1 bags sold/min since wave 2 started

stable ridge
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I’m curious how bad, or not, it really is

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And not intentionally beaten down ofc, just normal use after a few months how it holds up

magic meadow
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some of the people in the recent ltt office tours got to see it, i didnt :/ I was told it didnt look great.

cobalt adder
stable ridge
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In my head I picture the wear looking cool, and the black setting itself apart from other drivers.

magic meadow
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keep in mind this is second hand but the wear near the tip was pretty typical but there was more on the knurling which was weird.

cobalt adder
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yea

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guess I should have clarified that

soft cliff
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And you know out of 10000 backpacks sold that some had other purchase as well....

cobalt adder
magic meadow
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Didn't ltt have a money breakdown recently lttstore was a pretty big slice.

faint zealot
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dude all you have to do is wathc wan show and they usually have 1-3k messages. (1-3K orders)

ancient python
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30%

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was the one a year ago

faint zealot
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i believe in jan or feb Linus said LTT store brings in 1m a month...however he didnt say usd or cad

cobalt adder
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probably usd. even though they are canadian, almost everything they say is with the US in mind

light bramble
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People like water bottles man

hazy pecan
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sorta salty at paypal tbh

light bramble
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And the PC part shirts are cool enough that you could say they're just an arsty design

soft cliff
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Gotta stay hydrated

light bramble
faint zealot
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when is the huge water bottle sopposed to be released... I will def buy that

hazy pecan
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yeah

light bramble
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But you're in Wave 2?

soft cliff
hazy pecan
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yeah

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better than waiting till it’s out of stock by wanshow lol

faint zealot
soft cliff
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at least it was not the end of wave 4 and then it would have been a very long wait. but F paypal

light bramble
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Know what I want?

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A big LTT blanket

soft cliff
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with LTT Sheets

hazy pecan
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lowkey sorta on me since a short nap turned into 6hr sleep lmao

light bramble
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Just a 20'x20' linus memeface

faint zealot
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that be blurry as hell up close

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i dont think it would scale that well

blazing wave
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idk what resolution it was filmed in

faint zealot
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it appeared to be a basic webcam so most likely 1080p

magic meadow
# hazy pecan

Rip. Who knows maybe some people will cancel and you'll get lucky.

hazy pecan
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ye sorta hoping for that tbh, didn’t miss w1 by that much

faint zealot
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618 wave 2 bags have sold in 40 mins for an avg of 15.45 bags/min

hazy pecan
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that’s like 4k revenue per minute minimum

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dang

feral raft
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they've already spent the cost so it's basically all profit right :^)

light bramble
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Linus is in that theater room right now just having a conniption.

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I imagine he's loving every second of this

hazy pecan
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still have to subtract out the cost from that technically, but yeah since they already put down the order it’s just recouping the investment at this point I think

faint zealot
light bramble
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I'd be curious what their profit margins are looking like with this bag.

faint zealot
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40-50% definitely

hazy pecan
faint zealot
hazy pecan
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gonna get 9.93m back by the time they sell through the first 4 waves

river narwhal
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I literally signed up for notifications on the bag coming out this morning, then got the notification a few hours later

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Perfect timing

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Nabbed an early wave 1 bag

light bramble
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I got in on Wave 1 at the buzzer

hazy pecan
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sorta salty that I slept 20min before launch and woke up only to get memed on by PayPal and miss wave 1 by 9 backpacks

blazing wave
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oof

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wave 2 isnt that far off wave 1 tho

blazing wave
faint zealot
blazing wave
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I'm not some haxxor

sullen frost
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in b4 all waves are ordered by the end of the weekend

faint zealot
blazing wave
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I think like, 5k into wave 3 it'll slow down a ton

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WAN might have a massive boost tho

light bramble
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Bro, nearly 1k orders in what, 1 hour?

faint zealot
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902

blazing wave
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lol originally it was like 1k orders in 10 mins

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~100 in the first 30 seconds

hazy pecan
blazing wave
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that's gotta be an awesome tweet to hit send on

blazing wave
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and if they block bots or smthn

hazy pecan
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omg imagine if people end up scalping ltt backpacks

faint zealot
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They could but why would they when we know theres 40k of them that is planned to ship by year end?

blazing wave
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Someone 100% will

blazing wave
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Impatience is a scalpers best friend

magic meadow
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Hmm. Selling backpack 2499.99$ confirmed wave 1. linusPerfect

faint zealot
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Imagine one of those first 50 is now re-selling it

magic meadow
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I will only use the money to buy more backpacks

blazing wave
faint zealot
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wave 2 1/10 done

feral raft
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Selling backpack 25000 currently in my hands? time to buy out LTT stock?

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oh that actually would require ~$10,000,000

blazing wave
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selling backpack, wave 1, $2,500,000. Serious offers only, I know what I have.

magic meadow
distant cargo
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cant imagine the screwdriver sales

magic meadow
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Now I'm a reasonably priced scalper

blazing wave
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the order fulfilment delay is gonna be...

faint zealot
blazing wave
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something

distant cargo
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i hope they 3pl this shit

blazing wave
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fulfiling 10k backpack orders is already a ton, like 40k screwdrivers on top of that lol

blazing wave
faint zealot
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^^

blazing wave
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I hope they ship the first 200 sooner than the 20th

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would make it a lot more convenient for me for college lol

ivory breach
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Ehh my college starts soon but ima just switch when it showes up lol

ivory breach
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I think lttstore is 2PL no?

vivid stirrup
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Jesus wake up 5 hours later and we are on wave 2, glad I woke up at 11pm for wave 1 lol

ivory breach
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They house their own inventory and just use a shipping company?

blazing wave
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not sure how they do it tbh

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seems like they have a shipping company tho? I don't think I've ever heard an employee say they pack orders

faint zealot
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LMG packs the orders then they give it to a shipping company to ship

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Creative Warehouse is under LMG

blazing wave
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wonder if they were expecting such massive backpack demand

faint zealot
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i dont think so

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i dont think they expected it to be sold out within a couple days - a week

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sales are def dropping but they're still averaging 14 bags/min for batch 2

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thats insane

vivid stirrup
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Do remember some people maybe asleep in Europe and haven't seen the the stock notification yet, I'm only awake as I like to be an hour early rather than late

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And I only got my backpack in wave 1 by luckily waking up for no reason XD

faint zealot
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the back pack god said "you shall wake up and give me your hard earned cash as tribute" or something like that

glacial solar
# faint zealot i dont think so

Wave 3 was supposed to be december. They moved the timeline WAY up because so many people signed up for notifications. I am sure they expected strong demand, though perhaps not THIS fast.

faint zealot
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they did say that there is another video using the bag to tow a car... perhaps tommorrows LTT's video ?

vivid stirrup
blazing wave
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at least not for a bit

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depends how much it spikes after WAN

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I'm super hyped to switch from my PD 30L tho, the LTT bag just fits what I use it for so much more

mortal dragon
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Guys is the backpack realy worth it in terms of quality and sturdyness? Because tax is insane , i pay like 100 bucks more

glossy phoenix
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Now it’s time for the screw driver. 🙂

simple summit
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I'm a little surprised by the sept 20th release, school is usually starting back up early to mid Aug

blazing wave
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nobody can really say "yes or no"

mortal dragon
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i mean i had for 2 years a ali express backpack of 20 bucks, but its falling apppart, so yeah

blazing wave
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not sure tho

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nick made it sound like there's a decent chance of shipping before the 20th

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I doubt they will ship in august tho

mortal dragon
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369 usd is alot tho and i live in the eu zone so yeah,

blazing wave
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up to u

blazing wave
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sounds like because they will ship seperately first, they add a decent amount to shipping

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for me in the US it was $7

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I imagine to the EU it's a lot more

golden citrus
blazing wave
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the increase from having stickers in your cart??

mortal dragon
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373 euro , and no addons

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atleast i havnt ticked them

golden citrus
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74 USD for me for shipping to Sweden 😢

blazing wave
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check your cart to make sure

blazing wave
golden citrus
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Yes.

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and a water bottle, and a tshirt, and a partyshirt :P

blazing wave
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ah

golden citrus
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wasnt gonna order just the backpack

blazing wave
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partyshirt is dope

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so is the water bottle

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I really like their multi-nep shirts tho, kinda sucks they're sold out

mortal dragon
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bo sticker i only see bachpack in cart, but damn 69 usd tax

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49 for shipping

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and then converting to eur…

blazing wave
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is there customs where you're at?

mortal dragon
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yes..

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atleast only faced them once with lbd fans

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ali express never

blazing wave
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oof

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lol if you sort by new on the website the backpack doesn't show up

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also, 1/5 of wave 2 is about to be sold

pliant meadow
mortal dragon
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Because kbd fans didnt state whats inside or something

austere sphinx
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Just had a look at the backpack- after shipping and conversion it comes to a total of $470 AUD. Ouch.

mortal dragon
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Customs opened package

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So yeah

blazing wave
mortal dragon
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Tofu e white , sakura caps

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Gath int lubbed krytox 205

austere sphinx
shy yoke
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Ltt needs to make a led rgb desk pad

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👌

austere sphinx
mortal dragon
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Wait is ltt that bad with shipping ? I mean 49 usd and i have to wait 28 days tho

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With many stores 28 days is free shipping

blazing wave
mortal dragon
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Yeah i like my kb

blazing wave
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that usually just means you're paying for shipping in the cost of the item

mortal dragon
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Tofu is rly nice and heavy

blazing wave
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idk where you are, but shipping stuff across the planet that's backpack sized is expensive af

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like crazy expensive

mortal dragon
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Rhough paint job is bad , its wearing off

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Next time i get no e white

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I could respray it though it's metal

blazing wave
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the one I have is annodized, no issues with the coating yet

austere sphinx
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If I order the backpack now, It will ship Oct 10th. Assuming the 28 day shipping it will be early Nov, and I'll be vacationing in California by then. So shipping is going to be extremely tight

blazing wave
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they'll probably divert or hold it if it's looking like it's really gonna be a problem

austere sphinx
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I can ship it to the Hotel (Was considering it) But If it arrives after my vacation I have no way to actually get it..

blazing wave
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yeah lol

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could risk it and ship it to a friend or something

austere sphinx
blazing wave
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also oops I got warned by the bot for all caps Yikes

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just wanted to be really clear that for legal reasons that was indeed a joke

austere sphinx
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Think if I email / contact LTT they could possibly push my order into the first wave, shipping SEP 20th?

blazing wave
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I really doubt it tbh

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depends when you ordered ig

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how many were in wave 2 when you ordered?

austere sphinx
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I haven't ordered yet, but I'm willing to pay right now if I can guarantee shipping on Sep 20th.

blazing wave
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I really doubt that would be possible

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like I would give that slim to none

austere sphinx
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Well that sucks

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I mean I'll still make contact somewhere, never hurts to try

blazing wave
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yeah I tried too before it was launched lol

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I move in like 3 weeks, and it would be real convenient to have the backpack by then

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they said no 😭

austere sphinx
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Where did you contact? Email? Discord? Twitter?

blazing wave
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email

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they may be able to help u more tho

austere sphinx
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I'll shoot them an email and see what the chances are. If I can't get in the first wave I'll just have to wait until 5th wave

blazing wave
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mine was basically asking if I could pay for expedited shipping when it came out

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thats one long vacation to cali lol

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that sounds dope af lol

austere sphinx
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Thinking, I could order the 4th wave and it'll arrive in December when I'm home...

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I'll see what they say.

blazing wave
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yeah that's ur best bet

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surprised how quickly wave 2 is going

austere sphinx
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Going to be really tight with shipping

golden citrus
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Woke up at 7(1h ago) first thin i did was check email then crawl out of bed like some lazy monster and went and ordered mine :P

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Knew i shouldnt have gone to bed early yesterday

blazing wave
golden citrus
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Dang tax and all uuf

blazing wave
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I’ll have dreams of sugar plums and backpacks

golden citrus
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74 usd for delivery, 109 for tax 😓

blazing wave
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Backpacks full of sugar plums maybe?

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Honestly not entirely sure what a sugar plum is

golden citrus
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Backpack full of saffron

blazing wave
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Bro I’d be rich

golden citrus
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Youd upset the saffron market

blazing wave
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I’d trickle feed it to make sure I don’t throw off prices

austere sphinx
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Debating if I should DM the moderation bot to hopefully get a faster response on this issue, I don't want to let it wait until wave 3, because then it's almost guaranteed to not be doable.

golden citrus
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If my math is correct 12k BPs sold in 8h?

blazing wave
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About yeah

golden citrus
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Neat

blazing wave
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9700 in first wave kinda throws it off

golden citrus
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Yeah 7666 left of W2 when i checked now

faint zealot
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just breached 12k backpack sales

blazing wave
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So yeah 12k

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That’s wild lol

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It went on sale like 7 hours ago I think

faint zealot
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thats 3m in ~10-12hrs?

blazing wave
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Wait I’m a brick

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Wait

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Or am I

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My brain is falling apart rn

golden citrus
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The instock email came at 2356 last night for me, 8h15m ago

blazing wave
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Yeah my brain is too tired to math rn lmao

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Mine came at 4:56pm my time, and it’s 1:11am now

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Order # doesn’t let anyone do anything afaik, but I’m not risking anything lol

light bramble
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I'm gonna bet

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We're going to see bag sales pick up again around midday Thursday

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and the they will SPIKE again on Friday when folks get paid.

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I genuinely think they will sell out before WAN show.

blazing wave
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That seems reallly unlikely to me

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With the current pace, and 25k+ backpacks left

vivid stirrup
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Welp someone put a fake review on the backpack

golden citrus
idle stag
river reef
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Does the backpack come with a warranty or anything like it

idle stag
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They’re usually good about it if you message support and explain what’s going on. I’ve heard it’s usually no questions asked

modest mason
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Is there any news on the screwdriver ? Cause of shipping i might wanna combine order both

muted solar
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I wouldn't mind if you deleted these

foggy sonnet
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Ha your order is identical to mine, same thing here, mine has yet to ship.

foggy sonnet
silent spindle
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My processor hoodie still hasn't shipped i bought it on July 15th ?!??!?

old swan
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BACKPAAAAACK

silent spindle
old swan
silent spindle
minor notch
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living in finland is expensive AF

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only if i could get the screwdriver in same order

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i would save so much money

idle stag
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Seeing that makes my wallet cry

minor notch
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yes. im crying myself....

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thank god there is honey.
"insert ltt sponsor message"

ivory scarab
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I think the only current valid offer is LIMITED TIME OFFER: BUY A WAN HOODIE WITH YOUR BACKPACK AND SAVE $20 OFF THE WAN HOODIE! ADD BOTH TO CART & DISCOUNT WILL AUTOMATICALLY APPLY. VALID THRU SATURDAY, AUGUST 6, 11:59PM PACIFIC

minor notch
#

this better work

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OOH MY GOOOD IT WORKS

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it made it worse crys

barren basin
#

You are paying twice for shipping if you add the wan hoodie so the coupon cancels out immediately. Check the backpavk product desc bottom

ember path
#

some people's children are so desperate to review bomb the bag they're leaving "reviews" of the website, not the product.🤣 isnt there a masterclass by a streamer they could waste their time on instead?

golden citrus
#

hyvää

minor notch
#

nam nam. mureaa

barren basin
#

Yeah for reasons unknown at this moment even the stickers cause you to pay double shipping. Not really free stickers if you pay 20€ for extra shipping since the system assumes it will be sent separately :D

golden citrus
minor notch
#

ooh no.... i failed my swedish

barren basin
#

but afaik they are fixing that as we speak

golden citrus
minor notch
old swan
minor notch
#

im still waiting for that to come out

silent spindle
old swan
silent spindle
old swan
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Ok lol

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Can't wait to wait 3 months

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But I have needed this for a long time so I am excited regardless

peak halo
#

Thank you for this resource 🙏

minor notch
golden citrus
#

ah well as a swede then, you didnt miss much :p

hallow chasm
#

me when backpack is $500 aud if you include shipping and tax 😩 (i will buy anyway 😭)

minor notch
#

sorry for 2 ping

hallow chasm
#

it's okay 🙂

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i bought it

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why did i do that

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haha I saved $8 for using card instead of paypal for exchange rate

deep star
#

Does anyone know if the LTT backpack can comfortably fit a 65% mech keyboard?

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I usually leave mine in the kbd fans carrying case, but I have a tendency of leaving stuff in lecture halls so I need it to fit in my backpack (with case)

rose spade
#

I'm debating on the backpack. On the one hand, it'd probably be the only bag I'd ever need for anything, on the other hand, both my mom and brother have like a bag from Kensignton which is like 50€ (compare that to the almost 400€ for the LTT one including shipping, taxes and stuff 😬)

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Should mention that other one is pretty good too (mostly because it's been on the market since like the Apple G4 iMac)

deep star
#

Samsonite bags are usually $100-150, at least the ones I get. They last about 3 years with moderate to heavy use for me. The main benefit is they come with a 3 year limited warranty and my local third party service center (Southern California) is usually pretty good with honoring warranty.

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Of course the LTT one looks very well padded and that's one complaint I have for every Samsonite backpack I have owned.

tacit oak
#

back pack order confirmd 😄
just in time becaus my bag is on his last days 😛

minor notch
#

but i also bought it

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i would have just loved to get the stuff at 1 time with screwdriver

fallen iris
#

How much do you think the LTT backpack will cost to import to Europe(Austria)? Because customs and duties are not included in the price.

peak halo
#

I’m sad that the video about the backpack pop-up shop is a Floatplane exclusive

zealous meadow
#

just for backpack and shipping

serene cargo
#

Waking up to check the backpack, and they sold through all of wave 1 and a third of wave 2 stock. Wow

weak atlas
#

Is the shipping €100?

zealous meadow
#

sorry

honest shell
zealous meadow
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had a bottle as well haha

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shipping 89US+customs and VAT

honest shell
zealous meadow
#

Cost summary
Description Price
Subtotal 249,99 $
Shipping 49,99 $
Taxes 75,00 $
Total USD 374,98 $

weak atlas
#

Norway here, waiting for the screwdriver before backpack train. Most likely to get it… like February? 😂

honest shell
#

That is just a strait rip off

zealous meadow
#

i´ll go and cry

weak atlas
#

Ah, just paid $80 for shipping a single board game (CMON), so it could be Worse :p

zealous meadow
#

just bought philips hue and corsair icue for 600 bucks so moneys tight x)

honest shell
weak atlas
#

Hehe, the kickstsrter said $20, and then when shipping was starting they said “give me more or no game for you” :p

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But I agree, shipping is getting way to expensive 😦

fallen iris
weak atlas
#

Anyone here bought the big flask? Isn’t 40 onzes like 1.2 liters? That’s weight lifting 😂

serene cargo
#

I've got a black and gold 40oz, it's not all that bad

minor notch
serene cargo
#

As in, I haven't had any issues drinking from it

minor notch
minor notch
#

also

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why cant there be metics also in store

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its hard for us to know wat the oz is in reality

willow tide
#

Wait what happened?

minor notch
#

my order

willow tide
minor notch
#

ye in somewhere....

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1,18294

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for the 40oz

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liters

weak atlas
#

They have launched this year a new and larger one, a massive one 😛

minor notch
#

ye the 1 liter one

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stupid imperial system

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doesnt make any sense

#

feels like its the

peak halo
# willow tide Wait what happened?

An earlier version of the backpack shown in a video back in January had an external pouch for a small water bottle, since replaced by the side zipper pocket

ivory breach
#

I have never seen this chat this active ong

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The day LTT gets a better shipping company its gonna go for Excessively successful YT merch company to Extremely successful clothes company real quick

serene cargo
#

Does LTT outsource their warehousing and order fulfillment? I kind of assumed they did that internally

elder trout
#

Never let them make you pay taxes

pastel lichen
#

half way through wave 2 pepega

elder trout
#

Theyll probably mention it in todays vid and blow through a lot of the remaining stock

pastel lichen
#

europe angry

peak smelt
#

lol, those people don't realize that if there was an EU location the cost of running it would mean that prices would probably end up being more.

pastel lichen
#

i will say it did suck ass to pay 20 bucks for shipping and then another 20 bucks for taxes

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im just spoiled by p much everyone offering free shipping these days

elder trout
golden citrus
peak smelt
#

74 for shipping and 42 for taxes for me, I did get a hoodie and deskpad though. Global supply chains/shipping atm are just super expensive to use sadly.

latent lark
#

Being Canadian, I have to say our internal costs for shipping also don't help. I wanted to send something a little smaller than the backpack seems to be to my European girlfriend through our postal service, and they quoted me $200. For the basic shipping. I'm assuming LTT has better prices, but still. And the other way around, it costs her maybe 40-50€ to send me stuff that is similarly sized... I don't get what Canada Poste has with shipping but it's rough out here 😭

pastel lichen
rich karma
#

Oooof that’s a little rough

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And that’s without tax🤡

golden citrus
#

ah well the one I have for now still does its trick..and it has RGB so I mean.

languid valve
pastel lichen
#

i thought i read something about adding additional items increasing shipping costs anyway @golden citrus

opal night
#

I don't get it... how do people like... live in eu... and don't understand what vat is

languid valve
#

EU people are used to prices listed including VAT

opal night
#

and then they get upset that if they're ordering something from overseas they need to add in vat on top of purchase and shipping price

languid valve
#

the whole "add taxes at checkout" isn't really a thing here

rich karma
#

Well yes it is all included in the price normally

opal night
rich karma
#

Well the site obviously knows in which country I am

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Because it says so at the bottom of the shopping cart

languid valve
#

or, you know, you could just go of geolocation and include it as an estimate or use whatever country you set as your shipping address in your account

pastel lichen
#

or just add at checkout

opal night
languid valve
#

Anyone know what EU customs ID the backpack is? It's either 2.7% or 9.7%...

opal night
#

before that it was normal that package was held back in customs for a week or two and vat was collected on delivery

opal night
#

it still shows you the total before you buy

languid valve
#

That is mostly because chinese shippers lied about the value

chilly tartan
#

Darn I ordered as soon as I woke up

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Wave 2, but at least it's 3-9 day shipping

#

How far apart are the "waves"?

final quail
rose spade
#

Bag + Shipping comes out as roughly 300€. I punched the numbers into an online VAT & import duty calculator, and honestly, it's not as high as I was expecting...
~370€ for orders to Germany. Granted, at this price, there are probably better options out there, but honestly, that's to be expected for a product that almost made it around the globe (wherever it was made in Asia -> Canada -> Germany)
(I should mention, the 2.7% is the EU import duty for bag-like products)

fossil flower
pastel lichen
chilly tartan
#

It sure is a chonky ass pack lol

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I wanna use it for my pc tho, so it'll be chonk no matter what

opal night
rose spade
#

Not necessarily, if you're ordering from a local retailer (in which case it goes Asia -> Europe)
Although, if it's made in China, there's an almost 50% EU tarrif apparently

chilly tartan
languid valve
# chilly tartan How far apart are the "waves"?

WAVE 1 (9,700 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY SEPTEMBER 20
WAVE 2 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY OCTOBER 10
WAVE 3 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY OCTOBER 30
WAVE 4 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY NOVEMBER 10

final quail
opal night
pastel lichen
#

i like the boxy design of the bag

opal night
#

and

pastel lichen
#

looks good af

opal night
#

any profit eu retailer makes it's still suspectable to vat

rose spade
#

VAT in Europe is high in general

opal night
#
  • even if you were shipping within EU it'd still probably cost ~ 20€ to ship
rose spade
#

But it's to fund an overall better living standard 🙂

vast swift
#

I thought the high shipping price was because I ordered other stuff along with the backpack and it said they will ship separately WendyThink

opal night
vast swift
#

or is it 78$ for solo backpack too

rose spade
chilly tartan
#

🙂

final quail
opal night
final quail
#

which is why i am not sure why so many people are bitching about the cost etc. He is following Canadian law regarding taxes and international shipping requirements. So many people are complaining about UK prices...Blame Brexit not Linus...

chilly tartan
opal night
#

and... now think that ltt has to include all potential costs of shipping replacement units to eu

chilly tartan
#

I didn't know wave 1/2 was ~2 month difference

opal night
#

cuz... within 10 000 units you'll have a couple units with issues

opal night
#

you'll have couple units that something happened as they were getting shipped

final quail
opal night
chilly tartan
#

Ok I guess

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The problem is I'm wave 2 not that shipping is slow

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Rip waking up at 8am I guess

opal night
languid valve
#

I don't quite believe the 14-28 days shipping estimate... with the mess global logistics is it might just be on a boat for 60 days . Not LTTs fault though

final quail
opal night
chilly tartan
#

Well obviously they could just launch it at noonish America, since all euros are fucked anyways

peak halo
final quail
chilly tartan
#

Oh fr

stiff epoch
#

did they address the free stuff that adds a ton in shipping?

chilly tartan
#

😕 I woke up at like 3am my time for water and didn't see my email

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That sucks so bad

final quail
#

I get that the vocal minority is being shitty right now. I just hope they decide to switch to verified buyers for reviews.

peak halo
chilly tartan
#

Lol yea u can't even see the original 20 or so real reviews

ivory breach
#

I tried sending a 20 cm x 20 cm x 20 cm box to france and I kid you not I was quoted 250$ for any delivery time within 2 weeks, 100$ for between 2 weeks to a month and then 70$ for "untracked" upto 2 months lol

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Shits whack rn

opal night
chilly tartan
#

Also I think the furthest back pouch, they should have done accordion style instead of a side opening floppy guy

#

Oh well

stiff epoch
#

I am surprised that there isn't an internal side pocket to internal hole instead of the external cable management thing they have

final quail
#

I think the reviews were at 17 before i went to bed and they all looked normal

opal night
stiff epoch
#

a ton of the reviews don't realise that the 360€+ includes tax...

ivory breach
chilly tartan
#

I actually wonder if they launched it at midnight to avoid blowing up their servers

ivory breach
#

It would be refunded

ivory breach
opal night
honest shell
#

They just need to find a good shipping partner

#

Because price+ time is very bqd on this one

final quail
stiff epoch
#

to be fair their custom and duty fees page is outdated

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"LTTStore does not include any coverage for customs or duty fees in quoted shipping costs, or at any point in our checkout or billing process."

#
peak halo
chilly tartan
#

Where the fuck was my email o_O

opal night
ivory breach
#

But i would've seen short circuit and gotten wave two so ye

final quail
chilly tartan
#

That double sucks man

chilly tartan
#

Cos I don't check it every day lmao

ivory breach
#

I saw discord so nabbed wave one with like 8k left or something

#

Ppl went buck wild here

chilly tartan
#

Prob would have been better to just @ the discord for me👺

golden citrus
rose spade
# stiff epoch to be fair their custom and duty fees page is outdated

Yeah, but they also have a seperate page for EU & UK Taxing: https://www.lttstore.com/pages/statement-on-taxes-in-europe-uk-and-norway

opal night
# ivory breach LOL

ye I'm like... shipping company insurance policies are worthless - 3rd party insurance companies are way more reputable in my experience

final quail
#

I signed up for the mailing list right away and got my email at about 301pm pst. but i had already ordered the bag lol. F5 gang rise up...

ivory breach
#

This the only channel I have un muted cus its usually quiet. Not yesterday lol

ivory breach
opal night
#

like normal insurance companies will let you buy insurance on FedEx packages etc

peak halo
stiff epoch
ivory breach
#

Yeah and at checkout lol

peak halo
#

Reminds me, I can turn off notification pings now

chilly tartan
#

Nvm, I did get the email, but my wonderful Google overlords decided this email wasn't important enough for a push notification. Of course aliexpress is always worth a push though....

ivory breach
#

LOL

chilly tartan
#

Damn that rly sucks

#

Hoe big was the first wave, 10k?

stiff epoch
#

9700

peak halo
chilly tartan
#

So they sold like 14k so far then damn

#

And those go out this month?

languid valve
#

none of them go out this month

peak halo
#

All the estimated shipping dates for each wave are on the product page

chilly tartan
#

Oh fr?

stiff epoch
#

all shipping info is on the backpack page

#

including numbers and shipping dates

signal valve
#

It sucks and is shitty the taxes are so high in europe but they can't control that. So giving them a 1 star review over something they can't control is a shitty move imo. You either pay it or not. Doesn't say anything about the backpack or the whole ltt. So be disappointed all you want. It is what it is but stop blaming them lol.

chilly tartan
#

When do wave 1 ship?

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I guess it would be late for uni starting for me no matter what then

final quail
chilly tartan
#

Lmao

#

Ok Oct isn't so bad

languid valve
stiff epoch
serene cargo
peak halo
#

In the ShortCircuit video Linus basically admits it was the addition of the AirTag pocket that delayed the initial release past back-to-school time

chilly tartan
#

It is strange cos he even said that the zipper interlock can be used for cable routing

chilly tartan
#

But they didn't make a little grommet network that would have been neat

stiff epoch
peak halo
#

The good thing about the backpack is there’s no one way to cable manage with that many pockets to choose from

stiff epoch
serene cargo
#

I replied to the wrong comment! I meant about the front hinged pocket

#

Yeah, internal cable management would've been cool

peak halo
#

My old Swissgear backpack has a headphone cable pass-through that I’ve never even used

chilly tartan
#

Using it for headphones lol

#

1999s style

#

U got a tube amp in ur pack back or smth

#

I wish he shoved an sffpc into the backpack to see its fit

ivory breach
#

Even though i have a note 9 its been a while since ive used wired headphones now tbh

chilly tartan
#

I hope and assume I can fit my zs a4

#

Since my current bag can I assume it will fit comfortably

final quail
chilly tartan
#

I've never used a wired headphone in public

#

Embarrassing

stiff epoch
#

I did as a 13 year old xd

chilly tartan
#

Ok sure sure before wireless earbuds existed I guess

stiff epoch
#

yeah xd

chilly tartan
#

Well time to treat this like an aliexpress order and forget I ordered it until October I guess

signal valve
#

time flies

#

will be fine

chilly tartan
#

Only starts flying once u forget it waiting

vivid stirrup
#

I always used wired headphones in public

signal valve
#

wired headphones always get tangled with stuff

stiff epoch
#

in-ears yes

#

full size? only as a 13 year old xd

signal valve
#

how many times i almost hanged myself trying to take of my scarf and the headphones are tangled in them

#

wireless is better

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imo

vivid stirrup
#

I wore razer kraken v2

#

Well good on way home on a bus

#

Got the razer kraken v3 pro wireless for pc gaming now

chilly tartan
#

How many notifis did they say that had?

#

17 hours in only half way thru wave 2 👀

potent ocean
#

I think 60k was the latest number mentioned on the WAN show

honest shell
serene cargo
#

I'd say the backpacks are moving pretty well for being backorders. You'd expect to see spikes after various waves of verified reviews come through

honest shell
#

Still like 15k bags on pre order

chilly tartan
#

Tru

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Ok nvm

serene cargo
#

There's probably a big number of folks who don't want to be early adopters on a $250 bag (plus all the other costs)

chilly tartan
#

If they had 60k notif sign-ups 15k in 15 hours isn't bad

#

They'll be sitting on some inventory tho lol

serene cargo
#

That's probably the plan

honest shell
chilly tartan
#

Well they got like 2 month to sell thru the rest without holding inventory so

stiff epoch
#

360€ including everything

#

not 500

potent ocean
#

They did know that notification signups wasn't a good indicator of actual demand

chilly tartan
#

Ofc they did the math

#

To know the best choices to make based on notif signups

mystic sparrow
#

Yo, is the free tote bag thing still going on?

honest shell
chilly tartan
#

I don't don't so

#

I just saw stickers on mine which I didn't want lol

stiff epoch
chilly tartan
#

(Didn't want the tote either)

honest shell
#

On delivery i will have to pay 70 bucks of taxes AGAIN and around 50 buck of customs fee

stiff epoch
#

nope

#

that is included

honest shell
stiff epoch
#

what do you think taxes are

#

those are the EU taxes you are paying

pastel lichen
#

i didnt get stickers on mine i wish i did but ill prolly buy the neptune shirt when it comes out again

#

so ill get them then

chilly tartan
#

O sure it's 250+taxes wherever u are

stiff epoch
chilly tartan
#

Man Europe must be annoying lol!

minor notch
#

yes

honest shell
#

Ok so that's get refunded nice

stiff epoch
#

you dont even get charged

minor notch
#

but u forget that we get free healtcare and stuff

stiff epoch
#

only if they make a mistake

honest shell
#

So eventually it will be a 400 dollar bag

stiff epoch
#

no

chilly tartan
#

Well

honest shell
#

Same with friends and other people on this server

stiff epoch
#

your 370 for the backpack inlcudes everything

chilly tartan
#

We could fund Healthcare if we weren't busy giving trillionaire companies free taxes 🙃

stiff epoch
#

that is your final cost

honest shell
stiff epoch
#

also included I think

honest shell
#

Nope

languid valve
#

LTT will not do the customs stuff for you

honest shell
#

They are evaluated by the customs agent

#

Not LTT or shipping company

#

Shipping company just collects them

stiff epoch
#

ah k

honest shell
#

So probably 400+ bag for europeans/asians

stiff epoch
#

you can ship with that included

honest shell
#

But not ltt

chilly tartan
#

Sheeesgh

honest shell
#

Too much of a hassle

chilly tartan
#

Ain't no way it's worth 400 lmao

honest shell
#

It is probably a very good backpack

#

400 dollars good idk

chilly tartan
#

I don't think so

#

For me at least, it better be my personal perfect backpack to be worth 400

elder trout
#

Try shopping for photographers backpacks dedbasa

chilly tartan
#

Well ye duh lmao

#

I ain't buying a camera bag lol

elder trout
#

Most of them start around the 250-300 mark and are still made of cheap materials

#

That whole market is a ripoff

#

I hate it

chilly tartan
#

Expensive main stuff always leads to expensive but bad accessories

elder trout
#

My main hope for this bag is good durability. Ive been using an oakley bag thst cost around as much as the ltt bag for over a decade that shows basically 0 signs of wear.

#

Need something a bit less flashy for taking around every day

chilly tartan
#

Sounds like it is quite durable

signal valve
#

if this bag lasts me 10 to 15 years idm paying this much at all. I have had expensive bags that broke after 2 years

chilly tartan
#

I gotta use the jansport for 2 months at uni until the ltt comes 👺 🤓

mystic sparrow
#

Might buy it after the 10 year reviews start coming out lol

haughty prawn
#

!shop

#

k

chilly tartan
#

I do feel like I'm gambling ordering with 17 reviews and no video reviews but

#

Whatever

#

I'll trust ltt ain't scamming me with some fatal flaw

signal valve
#

theya re gonna release a video where they test the backpack

#

also did linus ever scam

chilly tartan
#

No but on their first product I actually want from them, better be good lmao

signal valve
#

have some faith

chilly tartan
#

I just wanna know how big of sffpc case he can fit in there

#

Even better if it's feasible to put my pc and a few notebooks and crap in there

vast swift
chilly tartan
#

Not laptop

peak smelt
chilly tartan
#

Mmmmm

#

Rough volume on that guy?

vast swift
#

oh sorry didn't read correct 😅

peak smelt
#

about 13L

#

the overnight emergency bag vid also shows some good usage with one of those massive jackery batteries.

chilly tartan
#

Oh sick ok

#

Mines decently smaller than that

#

So plenty of room for just shoving in the pc even when my notebooks and laptop are already in there

#

Obviously assuming those extra liters are in the correct directions

royal spade
#

the store be dead

vast swift
peak halo
#

Yellow banana for scale has been out of stock since May smh

chilly tartan
#

Nice nice

solar spruce
#

are the exact dimensions of the backpack listed somewhere that my dumb self can't find

#

or is it just vague liters

vast swift
#

the dimensions of the biggest laptop sleeve are on the store page.. the rest is in litres only

#

and based on the Jackery power banks you can kinda guesstimate the size of the big main compartment

peak smelt
#

Can also estimate based off the 'fits under an airline seat' statement

solar spruce
#

that's exactly what I don't want to be estimating

#

there are exact measurement, respectively boxes in which the luggage needs to fit, which each airline defines

#

I don't understand this at all

#

neither the product dimensions

#

nor the shipping dimension

#

nor weight are listed

#

this isn't how you do e-commerce

peak smelt
#

they are providing a lot more info than others do, also an insane number of product shots.

vast swift
#

but they do show a lot.. a ton of pictures.. a full on video showcasing and stuffing towels and laptops in it.. its way more than your Adidas or hiker backpack gear

#

they give Litres for those as well.. and nothing else

nocturne nymph
#

The Backpack is so cool

peak smelt
#

you can probably just do some reverse calculations based off the external volume if you needed exact figures.

royal spade
#

The backpack comments are like a twter thread rn. good luck support peeps

solar spruce
#

y

#

what's up with the reviews

#

reviewing the "buying experience"?

chilly tartan
#

Ppl are dumb

#

Fanboys

signal valve
#

people 1 starring them because eu taxes for example

#

something they can't do anything about

chilly tartan
#

Well if they really wanted to dump a shit ton of money they could ship straight to euro and have a warehouse there

#

No way that'd be worth it tho

vast swift
#

at least some started to do it on 5-stars so its not "low rated" but its still stupid.. just complain on support channels if you are not okay with it.. why do you flood the reviews.. have to legit go thru 20 pages to find a normal one

signal valve
#

thing is, you either wanna pay it or not. Being bitter and 1 starring them won't do anything except lowering the appeal for the backpack to people who won't bother reading the reviews

barren basin
#

I never understood why non-verified reviews are even allowed thonk

faint zealot
#

Okay so I have a question. If someone paid and and then canceled before it was shipped, does the review still stay there?

vast swift
# chilly tartan Well if they really wanted to dump a shit ton of money they could ship straight ...

its not that simple.. Linus has talked a bit about it on one of the WAN shows.. they would been to establish HQ and register under EU regulations.. or they would need a partner company to take over the stock.. and they would still need to do shipping between Canada and the warehouse in EU.. so the pricing will still be high.. only difference is maybe you get a bit faster delivery and no custom delays.. maybe

chilly tartan
#

Why would u need to ship between the two?

signal valve
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because some stuff is made in canada

chilly tartan
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Mmm I see

vast swift
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screwdriver is assembled there for example

chilly tartan
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Gotcha

vast swift
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some of the shirts are their own print too

chilly tartan
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Surely shipping would be faster once it's chilling in euro tho

royal spade
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shirts are made in cn moved to ca for printing and sold to my limited understanding

barren basin
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I'd rather pay lets say 300€ for the backpack and 15€ for delivery rather than 250$ and 120$ in shipping + tax. But understandably it is not trivial to execute

vast swift
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also I'd guess that sending 3 huge containers to 1 destination is cheaper than splitting them to 2 destinations.. and then what if the EU ones don't sell and you need more for Canada.. need to ship there again

fallen iris
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I really hope that the backpack custom fees are not extremely high in europe.

vast swift
royal spade
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hey weird question. how likely would support be willing to replace a the reusable underwear packaging? I was planning to reuse it but it was ripped in shipping :/

gaunt ice
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I ordered the backpack but my only problem is gonna be that I paid $72 vat, but because the value is over €150 IOSS doesn't work anyway so need to pay VAT and duty when I receive it and then ask for a refund for the $72 so basically some of my money is being reserved fur dumb reasons

vast swift
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chrome night
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lmao so many unhappy people with nonsense reviews not even reviewing the product

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is that what the chat is already about?

signal valve
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mainly yea

vast swift
chrome night
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thought so 😂

livid talon
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It would be nice if here in Asia they'd ship directly from the factory in China, would save loads on shipping. But yeah I added it to cart during wave one and it got over $300

chrome night
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I just checked the site to see 140+ reviews, and thought "what the heck"

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read some reviews and figured what was up haha

gaunt ice
barren basin
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@fallen iris Check if you can handle the customs yourself. I don't know if it is EU or local laws but in here they offer you to handle the customs process yourself and then it the handling fee is waivered by the courier company

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chrome night
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pretty rough

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# fallen iris https://www.lttstore.com/pages/customs-duty-fees i dont think so. But I could be...
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read this

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I sent it for a reason

chrome night
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I'm just happy LTT actually calculate the taxes ahead of time lol

gaunt ice
chilly tartan
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Lmao yea what

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130 spam reviews

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Thats kinda annoying

vast swift
livid talon
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Guessing Kaiser lives in Canada and doesn't have to deal with it irl

vast swift
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and I paid over 500$ for the backpack

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and yet you complain more

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and you didnt even get it

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so

livid talon
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You got robbed

vast swift
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idk man

chrome night
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can't blame LTT for that though lol

gaunt ice
gaunt ice
chrome night
# livid talon You got robbed

I really need and want a backpack, so I also got it at just under $400 USD 😂 I also like what LTT stands for, what they do, and don't mind supporting them

livid talon
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Same in the UK, under 150 is fine over and your hit for import and customs tax

vast swift
livid talon
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@chrome night support them by all means I want to do so too but to pay the cost of 2 for one item? .... Not much sense in that now is there

chrome night
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$250 as a base price is an expensive backpack (Linus has stated so himself multiple times), it's also pretty big, so $50 shipping is pretty reasonable... the rest of the cost can't be blamed on LTT 😛

signal valve
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it's easy, if you don't wanna spend the money don't get the backpack, yet they feel the need to keep saying how they will not get it cause it's expensive rooDerp1

chrome night
livid talon
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20-25 on the shipping is reasonable I think

stable ridge
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400 total is pretty wild. Linus could be inside and I still wouldn’t pay that lol

gaunt ice
livid talon
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@chrome night well fella you must have money to burn.

serene cargo
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