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ill wait for wave 2 bc im broke atm

269 Nice!
Gonna be closer to 420 Euros
Wave 2 sales will start within the hour
YOLO
Or both
Gotcha that's way higher then.
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I did it

Congrats
are all 3 waves tonight?

60 dollars taxes
all waves are one right after each out till sold out
Hurts so much
Idk if this is just coping cause I don’t have money but I don’t need the backpack until like august of next year so I’ll wait last wave lol
everyone epically buying the bag its 345SGD without shipping costs and what not for me
I wa watching the video
My reasoning (which is totally not copium) is that I'm using my backpack literally every single day so it's a good investment
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Jinx!
Exactly
and like, while watching I checked the bag out on the website and saw it go from 606 available
to 475
to 309
They really got me with that sense of urgency XD
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But yeah, this is big oof
Also Linus talking in WAN show about "I really hope these sell"
Yikes
meanwhile wave 1 about to sell out XD
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I got the hey did you actually get this call
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wave 2 will def sell out b4 the weekend
I am thinking Linus is happy he added a 4th wave order, as these are flying, can not wait to see how fast they sell during wan show
Wave 1 Gang report in
I call wave 2 will sell out before Wan show and wave 3 sell out by end of wan show
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by the time the rest is out I will have spent $500 AUD!!!
I was like, I can get this instead of a Tumi
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I'm not gonna lie it was a genuinely impressive looking bag.
Double Digits
Numbers are flying
How fast are you trying to checkout when you see only a handful left in wave 1
FUCK
cries in CAD
I missed it too
We missed 69
F
we all miss 69 lol
Ok, own up who bought 2 and ruined the fun
I kept refreshing and it went from 75 to 68
Quick someone edit it in dev mode
gotta go fast
maybe in wave 2
If all 4 waves sell out I think Linus will make his money back just fine XD
How many left for wave 1
42
Lmao
The best number
we don't know how up to date that is
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COME ON
30 now
I got mine at about 8k left or so
could be 0 at this point
Meaning of life is the LTT backpack
OOP THEY DROPPIN
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I got mine at 1534
got mine at about 9700
Madlad
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TF?
So Funny that Shopify was video sponsor for backpack they must be doing well with there % fee
9.. wtg linus!
Bro the fact that the 9700 is ALREADY at this point
It dropped from 141 to 101 earlier lol
YOU ARE SO CLOSE
Wave 1 SOLD OUT !!!!!!!
9987
Gg
WAVE 2
GG
WE WAVE 1 BOYS
IT WAS $488 RFHUIO;ERTGHUILEDRFTGHU
We still doing countdown lol
And we're done
Wave 2 is up
Goddamn
WAVE 1 BAYBEEEEEE
now we refresh til wave 2 is gone
F for Wave 1
You barely made it ong
BARELYYYYYY
Gg @wild otter perhaps the last buyer of wave 1
I will do a review of it on my channel!
Nice
Wabe two boyos
last sighting of wave 1. rip in pepperoni
Honestly, gg linum g damn g
how do I know if I have wave 1??
Check your order ?
Order email says wave
@valid pawn Congrats!
Example
LMG wont have to store them in Lab 2, they'll have to pack them and send them out directly from the shipping container
Ikr
they can just send me the container and ill take care of them >.>
Linus and Yvonne watching this like
Wave 1 gang
First batch was supposed to be 20k so the month delay is probably to like spread out workload for sending em out
LOL missed that on my order email, that was some good planning
ENJOY MY MONEY LTT
when is wave 4 sopposed to ship any1 know?
WAVE 4 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY NOVEMBER 10
Ty
wave 2 is flying too
id laugh and be really happy for them if they sell out wave 4 before or during wan
If you got the last one during Wan show what's your merch message gonna be? .
Your ebay listing
Agreed
So, there's forty thousand units at $249 apiece.
If we assume a profit margin of 40% that's like four million dollars of profit.
just under $10Million USD
Linus can fund his tech habit a bit better now. 
Pays for Lab 2 renovations
So hold on
Pays for his new house and all the gadgets he's putting in it 😝
Would the LTT bag fit my MSI GE76 Raider(17.3,inch, with the charger?
Laptop dimentions: 15.63"x 10.57"x 1.08" Inches
idk the charger size but it is 240 WAT
When exactly did the bag officially go on sale
He said in the video that 17.3" would fit
Around 5 hours ago
it is a big chunki boi
I think goal was said once to be 50% so these waves would be about $5mil profit
I think it was almost exactly 5 hours ago
Ah, okay. I just guessed 40% because that seems standard in a lot of business.
but would that big pouch for the laptop hold like 5 pounds?
Imagine how scary it is to buy ten million dollars of backpacks
*6.4 pounds
We don’t have to imagine, you could kinda hear it in his voice on several of the recent WAN shows!
I know the center is call the bag of holding but i did not see any warnings about not putting another bag of holding inside, so they could have put all 40k bags inside one and just air shipped the one and save time and shipping cost.....
Big brain move
Not to be an LTT fanboy but Linus is awesome, he's like a real person haha. Like on the WAN show it's really just him and a buddy chatting about tech and stuff
Alternatively they could have just used a wish spell.
@languid breach short cicuit vid showcases the bag really well 5:55 is the timestamp you want for laptops
planning to put a camera bag insert in the bag of holding. hopefully it fits
More like the last few months between Backpacks, Screwdrives and Lab 1 - 2 - 1 lol
bases on short circuit it should 😹
screwdrivers are probably gonna fly much fatser than these bags
Definitely
less niche of a product i think
It’s also more digestible in terms of price
Just look how happy linus is
video still has 1/5 of normal views for the channel
I know I plan on ordering 1 of each so 4 (Black on Black, Black on Sliver, Orange on Black and Orange on Silver)
or about a backpacks worth lol
Of course he is. He just made 2.5 million in about 6 hours.
I’m going for Black on Orange 🤞
Orange on silver is probably the best bet long term but whatever
That's what I'm picking
avg of 17.1 bags sold/min since wave 2 started
I hope in the driver video the show off a beaten down black rod variant.
I’m curious how bad, or not, it really is
And not intentionally beaten down ofc, just normal use after a few months how it holds up
some of the people in the recent ltt office tours got to see it, i didnt :/ I was told it didnt look great.
as of doing this math, lttstore has brought in $2,595,500 USD in revenue from the backpacks alone
Really? Interesting
In my head I picture the wear looking cool, and the black setting itself apart from other drivers.
keep in mind this is second hand but the wear near the tip was pretty typical but there was more on the knurling which was weird.
just in back packs right?
And you know out of 10000 backpacks sold that some had other purchase as well....
This has really shown me how successful lttstore.com is
Didn't ltt have a money breakdown recently lttstore was a pretty big slice.
dude all you have to do is wathc wan show and they usually have 1-3k messages. (1-3K orders)
i believe in jan or feb Linus said LTT store brings in 1m a month...however he didnt say usd or cad
probably usd. even though they are canadian, almost everything they say is with the US in mind
People like water bottles man
And the PC part shirts are cool enough that you could say they're just an arsty design
Gotta stay hydrated
Did you still get a bag?
when is the huge water bottle sopposed to be released... I will def buy that
yeah
But you're in Wave 2?
Last mention on Wan Show was they are in the ocean so sometime
I like the non-obvious ones better, like gpu or screwdriver
at least it was not the end of wave 4 and then it would have been a very long wait. but F paypal
with LTT Sheets
lowkey sorta on me since a short nap turned into 6hr sleep lmao
Just a 20'x20' linus memeface
idk what resolution it was filmed in
it appeared to be a basic webcam so most likely 1080p
Rip. Who knows maybe some people will cancel and you'll get lucky.
ye sorta hoping for that tbh, didn’t miss w1 by that much
618 wave 2 bags have sold in 40 mins for an avg of 15.45 bags/min
they've already spent the cost so it's basically all profit right :^)
Linus is in that theater room right now just having a conniption.
I imagine he's loving every second of this
still have to subtract out the cost from that technically, but yeah since they already put down the order it’s just recouping the investment at this point I think
i dont remember exaclty but i knw he said the cost for him on wan and it was in the neighborhood of 4-5m.
I'd be curious what their profit margins are looking like with this bag.
40-50% definitely
They already got 2.6m back from the 9700 w1 and 700 w2 sold rn lol
i know , all im saying is that after wave 2 finishes, LMG will recoup the costs associated with the backpack
gonna get 9.93m back by the time they sell through the first 4 waves
yeah just meant for right now
I literally signed up for notifications on the bag coming out this morning, then got the notification a few hours later
Perfect timing
Nabbed an early wave 1 bag
I got in on Wave 1 at the buzzer
sorta salty that I slept 20min before launch and woke up only to get memed on by PayPal and miss wave 1 by 9 backpacks
this is why you refresh the website every minute for an hour
This is why you get an auto refresher that does it for you every 5 sceconds
I'm not some haxxor
in b4 all waves are ordered by the end of the weekend
they probably will be
I think like, 5k into wave 3 it'll slow down a ton
WAN might have a massive boost tho
Bro, nearly 1k orders in what, 1 hour?
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lol originally it was like 1k orders in 10 mins
~100 in the first 30 seconds
Today we sold more on lttstore than the biggest revenue day we ever had while I was at NCIX.
Linus Media Group has officially surpassed my previous employer's business in every way I can think of and we haven't even celebrated our 10th birthday.
Again, thank you everyone 😊😊😊
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hopefully they will backfill if people cancel/change orders tho
that's gotta be an awesome tweet to hit send on
ya I'm sure they will
and if they block bots or smthn
They could but why would they when we know theres 40k of them that is planned to ship by year end?
Someone 100% will
People who missed wave 1 or 2 and want them faster
Impatience is a scalpers best friend
Hmm. Selling backpack 2499.99$ confirmed wave 1. 
Imagine one of those first 50 is now re-selling it
I will only use the money to buy more backpacks
infinite money glitch real life 2022 (unpatched)
wave 2 1/10 done
Selling backpack 25000 currently in my hands? time to buy out LTT stock?
oh that actually would require ~$10,000,000
selling backpack, wave 1, $2,500,000. Serious offers only, I know what I have.
That's insane
cant imagine the screwdriver sales
Now I'm a reasonably priced scalper
the order fulfilment delay is gonna be...
completley sold out within 2days
something
i hope they 3pl this shit
fulfiling 10k backpack orders is already a ton, like 40k screwdrivers on top of that lol
I have no idea what 3pl means, so I'm gonna go with my best guess of 3 ply toilet paper
close enough
^^
I hope they ship the first 200 sooner than the 20th
would make it a lot more convenient for me for college lol
Ehh my college starts soon but ima just switch when it showes up lol
I think lttstore is 2PL no?
Jesus wake up 5 hours later and we are on wave 2, glad I woke up at 11pm for wave 1 lol
They house their own inventory and just use a shipping company?
not sure how they do it tbh
seems like they have a shipping company tho? I don't think I've ever heard an employee say they pack orders
LMG packs the orders then they give it to a shipping company to ship
Creative Warehouse is under LMG
wonder if they were expecting such massive backpack demand
i dont think so
i dont think they expected it to be sold out within a couple days - a week
sales are def dropping but they're still averaging 14 bags/min for batch 2
thats insane
Do remember some people maybe asleep in Europe and haven't seen the the stock notification yet, I'm only awake as I like to be an hour early rather than late
And I only got my backpack in wave 1 by luckily waking up for no reason XD
the back pack god said "you shall wake up and give me your hard earned cash as tribute" or something like that
Wave 3 was supposed to be december. They moved the timeline WAY up because so many people signed up for notifications. I am sure they expected strong demand, though perhaps not THIS fast.
they did say that there is another video using the bag to tow a car... perhaps tommorrows LTT's video ?
well it literally the perfect bag for my new job so i really excited to use it
I think wave 4 wont sell out
at least not for a bit
depends how much it spikes after WAN
I'm super hyped to switch from my PD 30L tho, the LTT bag just fits what I use it for so much more
Guys is the backpack realy worth it in terms of quality and sturdyness? Because tax is insane , i pay like 100 bucks more
Now it’s time for the screw driver. 🙂
I'm a little surprised by the sept 20th release, school is usually starting back up early to mid Aug
its worth it or not worth it depending on you
nobody can really say "yes or no"
i mean i had for 2 years a ali express backpack of 20 bucks, but its falling apppart, so yeah
I think thats the "oh shit our container got sent to alaska instead" shipping estimate
not sure tho
nick made it sound like there's a decent chance of shipping before the 20th
I doubt they will ship in august tho
369 usd is alot tho and i live in the eu zone so yeah,
up to u
also make sure u don't have stickers or any bonus bin items in your cart
sounds like because they will ship seperately first, they add a decent amount to shipping
for me in the US it was $7
I imagine to the EU it's a lot more
the increase from having stickers in your cart??
74 USD for me for shipping to Sweden 😢
check your cart to make sure
do u have any bonus bin stuff?
ah
wasnt gonna order just the backpack
partyshirt is dope
so is the water bottle
I really like their multi-nep shirts tho, kinda sucks they're sold out
bo sticker i only see bachpack in cart, but damn 69 usd tax
49 for shipping
and then converting to eur…
is there customs where you're at?
oof
lol if you sort by new on the website the backpack doesn't show up
also, 1/5 of wave 2 is about to be sold
Because kbd fans didnt state whats inside or something
Just had a look at the backpack- after shipping and conversion it comes to a total of $470 AUD. Ouch.
whats ur keyboard look like 👀
mega oof
I ordered a water bottle over a month ago, totaled almost $70AUD and I still don't have it.
solution: move to canada
I wish.
Wait is ltt that bad with shipping ? I mean 49 usd and i have to wait 28 days tho
With many stores 28 days is free shipping
nice, I got a lot of the stuff for my builds from kbdfans
Yeah i like my kb
that usually just means you're paying for shipping in the cost of the item
Tofu is rly nice and heavy
idk where you are, but shipping stuff across the planet that's backpack sized is expensive af
like crazy expensive
Rhough paint job is bad , its wearing off
Next time i get no e white
I could respray it though it's metal
the one I have is annodized, no issues with the coating yet
If I order the backpack now, It will ship Oct 10th. Assuming the 28 day shipping it will be early Nov, and I'll be vacationing in California by then. So shipping is going to be extremely tight
they'll probably divert or hold it if it's looking like it's really gonna be a problem
I can ship it to the Hotel (Was considering it) But If it arrives after my vacation I have no way to actually get it..
Friends? What are they 😂
also oops I got warned by the bot for all caps 
just wanted to be really clear that for legal reasons that was indeed a joke
Think if I email / contact LTT they could possibly push my order into the first wave, shipping SEP 20th?
I really doubt it tbh
depends when you ordered ig
how many were in wave 2 when you ordered?
I haven't ordered yet, but I'm willing to pay right now if I can guarantee shipping on Sep 20th.
yeah I tried too before it was launched lol
I move in like 3 weeks, and it would be real convenient to have the backpack by then
they said no 😭
Where did you contact? Email? Discord? Twitter?
I'll shoot them an email and see what the chances are. If I can't get in the first wave I'll just have to wait until 5th wave
mine was basically asking if I could pay for expedited shipping when it came out
thats one long vacation to cali lol
that sounds dope af lol
Thinking, I could order the 4th wave and it'll arrive in December when I'm home...
I'll see what they say.
Going to be really tight with shipping
EU waking up
Woke up at 7(1h ago) first thin i did was check email then crawl out of bed like some lazy monster and went and ordered mine :P
Knew i shouldnt have gone to bed early yesterday
And me going to sleep lol
Dang tax and all uuf
I’ll have dreams of sugar plums and backpacks
74 usd for delivery, 109 for tax 😓
Backpacks full of sugar plums maybe?
Honestly not entirely sure what a sugar plum is
Backpack full of saffron
Bro I’d be rich
Youd upset the saffron market
I’d trickle feed it to make sure I don’t throw off prices
Debating if I should DM the moderation bot to hopefully get a faster response on this issue, I don't want to let it wait until wave 3, because then it's almost guaranteed to not be doable.
If my math is correct 12k BPs sold in 8h?
About yeah
Neat
9700 in first wave kinda throws it off
Yeah 7666 left of W2 when i checked now
just breached 12k backpack sales
thats 3m in ~10-12hrs?
The instock email came at 2356 last night for me, 8h15m ago
Yeah my brain is too tired to math rn lmao
Mine came at 4:56pm my time, and it’s 1:11am now
Order # doesn’t let anyone do anything afaik, but I’m not risking anything lol
I'm gonna bet
We're going to see bag sales pick up again around midday Thursday
and the they will SPIKE again on Friday when folks get paid.
I genuinely think they will sell out before WAN show.
Welp someone put a fake review on the backpack
got paid last week so im happy they dropped it so close to payday
I just realized that two of the 3 star reviews are bogus too. “This review isn’t about the product. It’s about the Website”
Does the backpack come with a warranty or anything like it
They’re usually good about it if you message support and explain what’s going on. I’ve heard it’s usually no questions asked
Is there any news on the screwdriver ? Cause of shipping i might wanna combine order both
I wouldn't mind if you deleted these
Ha your order is identical to mine, same thing here, mine has yet to ship.
Wouldn’t count on it if you want to get in while the current backorders are open
My processor hoodie still hasn't shipped i bought it on July 15th ?!??!?
BACKPAAAAACK
I didn't get one
Like you didn't order one, or you couldn't order one?
Couldn't order one
living in finland is expensive AF
only if i could get the screwdriver in same order
i would save so much money
Seeing that makes my wallet cry
I think the only current valid offer is LIMITED TIME OFFER: BUY A WAN HOODIE WITH YOUR BACKPACK AND SAVE $20 OFF THE WAN HOODIE! ADD BOTH TO CART & DISCOUNT WILL AUTOMATICALLY APPLY. VALID THRU SATURDAY, AUGUST 6, 11:59PM PACIFIC
You are paying twice for shipping if you add the wan hoodie so the coupon cancels out immediately. Check the backpavk product desc bottom
some people's children are so desperate to review bomb the bag they're leaving "reviews" of the website, not the product.🤣 isnt there a masterclass by a streamer they could waste their time on instead?
too late
hyvää
nam nam. mureaa
Yeah for reasons unknown at this moment even the stickers cause you to pay double shipping. Not really free stickers if you pay 20€ for extra shipping since the system assumes it will be sent separately :D
samma fast på finska.
ooh no.... i failed my swedish
but afaik they are fixing that as we speak
You didnt miss much tbh
ooooh nooo.... well i would anyways just oder the backpack so i wont miss it... i would rather ship it with the screwdriver
What country
im still waiting for that to come out
Usa new mexico
I'm in USA and it allowed me to order?
Ok let me rephrase myself i don't want one
Ok lol
Can't wait to wait 3 months
But I have needed this for a long time so I am excited regardless
Thank you for this resource 🙏
i did need to drop off from high school
ah well as a swede then, you didnt miss much :p
me when backpack is $500 aud if you include shipping and tax 😩 (i will buy anyway 😭)
i did it allready toooo
@hallow chasm
sorry for 2 ping
it's okay 🙂
i bought it
why did i do that
haha I saved $8 for using card instead of paypal for exchange rate
Does anyone know if the LTT backpack can comfortably fit a 65% mech keyboard?
I usually leave mine in the kbd fans carrying case, but I have a tendency of leaving stuff in lecture halls so I need it to fit in my backpack (with case)
I'm debating on the backpack. On the one hand, it'd probably be the only bag I'd ever need for anything, on the other hand, both my mom and brother have like a bag from Kensignton which is like 50€ (compare that to the almost 400€ for the LTT one including shipping, taxes and stuff 😬)
Should mention that other one is pretty good too (mostly because it's been on the market since like the Apple G4 iMac)
Samsonite bags are usually $100-150, at least the ones I get. They last about 3 years with moderate to heavy use for me. The main benefit is they come with a 3 year limited warranty and my local third party service center (Southern California) is usually pretty good with honoring warranty.
Of course the LTT one looks very well padded and that's one complaint I have for every Samsonite backpack I have owned.
back pack order confirmd 😄
just in time becaus my bag is on his last days 😛
the pain of living in EU is when u want to buy something from america (continent)
but i also bought it
i would have just loved to get the stuff at 1 time with screwdriver
How much do you think the LTT backpack will cost to import to Europe(Austria)? Because customs and duties are not included in the price.
I’m sad that the video about the backpack pop-up shop is a Floatplane exclusive
went in today to check on backpack, total order will be 500 US

just for backpack and shipping
Waking up to check the backpack, and they sold through all of wave 1 and a third of wave 2 stock. Wow
Is the shipping €100?
sorry
250 bucks and then 21% VAT + customs and shipping
No
Cost summary
Description Price
Subtotal 249,99 $
Shipping 49,99 $
Taxes 75,00 $
Total USD 374,98 $
Norway here, waiting for the screwdriver before backpack train. Most likely to get it… like February? 😂
That is just a strait rip off
i´ll go and cry
Ah, just paid $80 for shipping a single board game (CMON), so it could be Worse :p
just bought philips hue and corsair icue for 600 bucks so moneys tight x)
If you have too much money you could give some to me LMAO
Hehe, the kickstsrter said $20, and then when shipping was starting they said “give me more or no game for you” :p
But I agree, shipping is getting way to expensive 😦
I know but all of this things I pay on the Webpage. Normaly I have to pay extra duties when the backpack gets delivered. I live in Europe.
Had too much, not anymore 😅
Anyone here bought the big flask? Isn’t 40 onzes like 1.2 liters? That’s weight lifting 😂
I've got a black and gold 40oz, it's not all that bad
thats lot of pain man. mine was only later that
As in, I haven't had any issues drinking from it
i bought my backback i try to see if i can just get them same time
i like it got it myself
also
why cant there be metics also in store
its hard for us to know wat the oz is in reality
Wait what happened?
my order
From memory it says 620 ml somewhere?
That's the regular one, 21 onzes
They have launched this year a new and larger one, a massive one 😛
ye the 1 liter one
stupid imperial system
doesnt make any sense
feels like its the
An earlier version of the backpack shown in a video back in January had an external pouch for a small water bottle, since replaced by the side zipper pocket
I have never seen this chat this active ong
The day LTT gets a better shipping company its gonna go for Excessively successful YT merch company to Extremely successful clothes company real quick
Does LTT outsource their warehousing and order fulfillment? I kind of assumed they did that internally
half way through wave 2 
Theyll probably mention it in todays vid and blow through a lot of the remaining stock
lol, those people don't realize that if there was an EU location the cost of running it would mean that prices would probably end up being more.
i will say it did suck ass to pay 20 bucks for shipping and then another 20 bucks for taxes
im just spoiled by p much everyone offering free shipping these days

hi im europe im not angry.
74 for shipping and 42 for taxes for me, I did get a hoodie and deskpad though. Global supply chains/shipping atm are just super expensive to use sadly.
Being Canadian, I have to say our internal costs for shipping also don't help. I wanted to send something a little smaller than the backpack seems to be to my European girlfriend through our postal service, and they quoted me $200. For the basic shipping. I'm assuming LTT has better prices, but still. And the other way around, it costs her maybe 40-50€ to send me stuff that is similarly sized... I don't get what Canada Poste has with shipping but it's rough out here 😭
but are you a mad lad?
the maddest because I am starting regretting not ordering mousepads when I put my order in this morning
ah well the one I have for now still does its trick..and it has RGB so I mean.
and customs value includes shipping...
i thought i read something about adding additional items increasing shipping costs anyway @golden citrus
I don't get it... how do people like... live in eu... and don't understand what vat is
EU people are used to prices listed including VAT
and then they get upset that if they're ordering something from overseas they need to add in vat on top of purchase and shipping price
the whole "add taxes at checkout" isn't really a thing here
Well yes it is all included in the price normally
so... you'd want for Canadians/us people to also see the price containing your eu country vat amount?
Well the site obviously knows in which country I am
Because it says so at the bottom of the shopping cart
or, you know, you could just go of geolocation and include it as an estimate or use whatever country you set as your shipping address in your account
or just add at checkout
that's due to regulations that came into life 2-3 years ago which require abroad retailers that are shipping items to eu countries to collect vat from the customer and then transfer it to customs agencies
Anyone know what EU customs ID the backpack is? It's either 2.7% or 9.7%...
before that it was normal that package was held back in customs for a week or two and vat was collected on delivery
not how the system they're using works
it still shows you the total before you buy
That is mostly because chinese shippers lied about the value
Darn I ordered as soon as I woke up
Wave 2, but at least it's 3-9 day shipping
How far apart are the "waves"?
The site shows when the estimated delivery time is
Bag + Shipping comes out as roughly 300€. I punched the numbers into an online VAT & import duty calculator, and honestly, it's not as high as I was expecting...
~370€ for orders to Germany. Granted, at this price, there are probably better options out there, but honestly, that's to be expected for a product that almost made it around the globe (wherever it was made in Asia -> Canada -> Germany)
(I should mention, the 2.7% is the EU import duty for bag-like products)

It sure is a chonky ass pack lol
I wanna use it for my pc tho, so it'll be chonk no matter what
better options out there... most of which are made in us/china so they're suspected to the same customs etc
Not necessarily, if you're ordering from a local retailer (in which case it goes Asia -> Europe)
Although, if it's made in China, there's an almost 50% EU tarrif apparently
Oh didn't see that
WAVE 1 (9,700 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY SEPTEMBER 20
WAVE 2 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY OCTOBER 10
WAVE 3 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY OCTOBER 30
WAVE 4 (10,000 PIECES): SHIPPED FROM OUR WAREHOUSE BY NOVEMBER 10
Looks like wave 2 is by October 10
and you get the same customs vat % on top of what it costed in Asia
i like the boxy design of the bag
and
looks good af
any profit eu retailer makes it's still suspectable to vat
VAT in Europe is high in general
- even if you were shipping within EU it'd still probably cost ~ 20€ to ship
But it's to fund an overall better living standard 🙂
I thought the high shipping price was because I ordered other stuff along with the backpack and it said they will ship separately 
eh... arguable... there's no perfect solution - both areas have their advantages and disadvantages and comparing them is pointless cuz noone can do so objectively
or is it 78$ for solo backpack too
Absolutely. Shipping big things ain't cheap, so when a retailer offers free shipping on a large product, it for sure isn't free and just included in the prices for their products
They have been very transparent about the shipping
I'm like... someone from eu could try to get someone from us/Canada to get a backpack and ship for them as 'gift ' undervaluing it so there's no vat, cheating on tax forms etc... and you'd probably save like 20$
which is why i am not sure why so many people are bitching about the cost etc. He is following Canadian law regarding taxes and international shipping requirements. So many people are complaining about UK prices...Blame Brexit not Linus...
That wouldn't rly be a shipping thing
and... now think that ltt has to include all potential costs of shipping replacement units to eu
I didn't know wave 1/2 was ~2 month difference
cuz... within 10 000 units you'll have a couple units with issues
FAX
you'll have couple units that something happened as they were getting shipped
that is exactly what it is... The bags are being shipped to HIM first. Also, when they are in they need to deal with shipping 40000 bags, they aren't Amazon. They can't send thousands a day...
I personally know companies that do so... and it's not easy
Ok I guess
The problem is I'm wave 2 not that shipping is slow
Rip waking up at 8am I guess
win for staying up throughout last couple nights
I don't quite believe the 14-28 days shipping estimate... with the mess global logistics is it might just be on a boat for 60 days . Not LTTs fault though
Downside to being in a different time zone. No matter when they dropped some part of the world would get screwed on getting in early.
the drop happened pretty much at midnight for me
Well obviously they could just launch it at noonish America, since all euros are fucked anyways
Yeup basically this
@TimeCluster @linusgsebastian Might ship sooner so all hope is not lost! Trying to be conservative with shipping estimates so I hope we’ll beat it!
and it was 3pm for me. Lucky I live so close to LMG. Not much you can do about it.
Oh fr
did they address the free stuff that adds a ton in shipping?
😕 I woke up at like 3am my time for water and didn't see my email
That sucks so bad
I get that the vocal minority is being shitty right now. I just hope they decide to switch to verified buyers for reviews.
@teddygala @OnlySeasurfer @linusgsebastian Have a note to look at this in the morning. Nothing I can do right this second but it is unintentional behavior. Will either be adjusted or at very least much more clearly communicated. Whatever we decide we’ll look at existing orders as well as future orders
Lol yea u can't even see the original 20 or so real reviews
I tried sending a 20 cm x 20 cm x 20 cm box to france and I kid you not I was quoted 250$ for any delivery time within 2 weeks, 100$ for between 2 weeks to a month and then 70$ for "untracked" upto 2 months lol
Shits whack rn
I think more like 13
Also I think the furthest back pouch, they should have done accordion style instead of a side opening floppy guy
Oh well
I am surprised that there isn't an internal side pocket to internal hole instead of the external cable management thing they have
I think the reviews were at 17 before i went to bed and they all looked normal
once I paid 500$ + to ship something to us only to have them refuse to deliver cuz they couldn't reach the recipient even tho they were at the address and none called the provided phone call... returned the package to EU and broke everything that was inside into several pieces... i'm talking 10mm thick aluminium plates severely bend
a ton of the reviews don't realise that the 360€+ includes tax...
God damn
Yeah the double tax is getting alota ppl
I actually wonder if they launched it at midnight to avoid blowing up their servers
It would be refunded
I thankfully never sent that package
u surprised that dumb people be dumb people
They just need to find a good shipping partner
Because price+ time is very bqd on this one
eh it was 3pm their time. I think it was just when they were ready.
to be fair their custom and duty fees page is outdated
"LTTStore does not include any coverage for customs or duty fees in quoted shipping costs, or at any point in our checkout or billing process."
Customers are responsible for any customs and duty fees, which may be assessed to your order once it arrives in the destination country. LTTStore does not include any coverage for customs or duty fees in quoted shipping costs, or at any point in our checkout or billing process. If you have any questions related to cust
Oh fr?
3pm Pacific still catches a large number of customers
Where the fuck was my email o_O
they thankfully didn't argue with my insurance claim
LOL
Same never got my stock email ngl
But i would've seen short circuit and gotten wave two so ye
it was sent to everyone, but emails to 60000 people never all go at once. Whoever they used for the mailing list would have server fires so they probably sent in waves
That double sucks man
Yeah.
Cos I don't check it every day lmao
I saw discord so nabbed wave one with like 8k left or something
Ppl went buck wild here
Prob would have been better to just @ the discord for me👺
Personally I would have hoped that they could have sent out the email with info like 24h before dropping it
Yeah, but they also have a seperate page for EU & UK Taxing: https://www.lttstore.com/pages/statement-on-taxes-in-europe-uk-and-norway
Statement on double-taxation in the European Union, United Kingdom, and Norway Some of our customers in the EU, UK and Norway have reported being charged for value-added tax (VAT) twice - both at the point of sale and the time of import or delivery. If you live in one of these regions, the following may apply to you. P
ye I'm like... shipping company insurance policies are worthless - 3rd party insurance companies are way more reputable in my experience
I signed up for the mailing list right away and got my email at about 301pm pst. but i had already ordered the bag lol. F5 gang rise up...
This the only channel I have un muted cus its usually quiet. Not yesterday lol
Good to know for future reference
like normal insurance companies will let you buy insurance on FedEx packages etc
I signed up two email addresses for notifs, the first email arrived at 23:05 and the second arrived at 23:13. Bulk emailing takes time
ah good to know. They should definitely mention that on the other page
Yeah and at checkout lol
Reminds me, I can turn off notification pings now
Nvm, I did get the email, but my wonderful Google overlords decided this email wasn't important enough for a push notification. Of course aliexpress is always worth a push though....
LOL
9700
Approx 9,700 because they air-shipped 250 in for the pop-up shop
yeah that sux
none of them go out this month
All the estimated shipping dates for each wave are on the product page
Oh fr?
It sucks and is shitty the taxes are so high in europe but they can't control that. So giving them a 1 star review over something they can't control is a shitty move imo. You either pay it or not. Doesn't say anything about the backpack or the whole ltt. So be disappointed all you want. It is what it is but stop blaming them lol.
When do wave 1 ship?
I guess it would be late for uni starting for me no matter what then
by September 20
Oh yeah, i am not going to buy one because of how much it will end up costing me but i won't leave a bad review just because of that
everyone in the EU is used to have tax included in the price. For us this is a 250$ backpack. For people in the US stuff is always without tax so they know this is more like a 300$ backpack
That feels like one of the features that is for a particular set of people who interact with their bag in a particular way. For me it feels like the prefect feature, but I definitely get how it won't work for a lot of others
In the ShortCircuit video Linus basically admits it was the addition of the AirTag pocket that delayed the initial release past back-to-school time
It is strange cos he even said that the zipper interlock can be used for cable routing
like i said it is what it is 
But they didn't make a little grommet network that would have been neat
routing the cable externally seems really weird instead of doing it internally. Well you can always just place the powerbank inside
The good thing about the backpack is there’s no one way to cable manage with that many pockets to choose from
My MOS blackpack grande has routing like that. To be fair it can be a bit annoying if you ever want to take a cable out
I replied to the wrong comment! I meant about the front hinged pocket
Yeah, internal cable management would've been cool
My old Swissgear backpack has a headphone cable pass-through that I’ve never even used
Using it for headphones lol
1999s style
U got a tube amp in ur pack back or smth
I wish he shoved an sffpc into the backpack to see its fit
Even though i have a note 9 its been a while since ive used wired headphones now tbh
I hope and assume I can fit my zs a4
Since my current bag can I assume it will fit comfortably
I work in sports broadcasting. Those are the only wired headphones I use. XLR. Routing for a cable in a bag would be useless for me.
I did as a 13 year old xd
Ok sure sure before wireless earbuds existed I guess
yeah xd
Well time to treat this like an aliexpress order and forget I ordered it until October I guess
Only starts flying once u forget it waiting
I always used wired headphones in public
wired headphones always get tangled with stuff
how many times i almost hanged myself trying to take of my scarf and the headphones are tangled in them
wireless is better
imo
I wore razer kraken v2
Well good on way home on a bus
Got the razer kraken v3 pro wireless for pc gaming now
I think 60k was the latest number mentioned on the WAN show
"only"
I'd say the backpacks are moving pretty well for being backorders. You'd expect to see spikes after various waves of verified reviews come through
Still like 15k bags on pre order
There's probably a big number of folks who don't want to be early adopters on a $250 bag (plus all the other costs)
If they had 60k notif sign-ups 15k in 15 hours isn't bad
They'll be sitting on some inventory tho lol
That's probably the plan
Uhuh close to 500 dollar bag in Europe and other continents
Well they got like 2 month to sell thru the rest without holding inventory so
They did know that notification signups wasn't a good indicator of actual demand
Yo, is the free tote bag thing still going on?
I have 370 with shipping and taxes
which is definitely not 500 xd
(Didn't want the tote either)
On delivery i will have to pay 70 bucks of taxes AGAIN and around 50 buck of customs fee
Not in europe
i didnt get stickers on mine i wish i did but ill prolly buy the neptune shirt when it comes out again
so ill get them then
O sure it's 250+taxes wherever u are
Statement on double-taxation in the European Union, United Kingdom, and Norway Some of our customers in the EU, UK and Norway have reported being charged for value-added tax (VAT) twice - both at the point of sale and the time of import or delivery. If you live in one of these regions, the following may apply to you. P
Man Europe must be annoying lol!
yes
Ok so that's get refunded nice
you dont even get charged
but u forget that we get free healtcare and stuff
only if they make a mistake
So eventually it will be a 400 dollar bag
no
Well
I ordered 3 times from ltt all 3 times double taxed
Same with friends and other people on this server
your 370 for the backpack inlcudes everything
We could fund Healthcare if we weren't busy giving trillionaire companies free taxes 🙃
that is your final cost
You forget duty fees
also included I think
Nope
LTT will not do the customs stuff for you
They are evaluated by the customs agent
Not LTT or shipping company
Shipping company just collects them
ah k
So probably 400+ bag for europeans/asians
you can ship with that included
Sheeesgh
Too much of a hassle
Ain't no way it's worth 400 lmao
I don't think so
For me at least, it better be my personal perfect backpack to be worth 400
Try shopping for photographers backpacks 
Most of them start around the 250-300 mark and are still made of cheap materials
That whole market is a ripoff
I hate it
Expensive main stuff always leads to expensive but bad accessories
My main hope for this bag is good durability. Ive been using an oakley bag thst cost around as much as the ltt bag for over a decade that shows basically 0 signs of wear.
Need something a bit less flashy for taking around every day
Sounds like it is quite durable
if this bag lasts me 10 to 15 years idm paying this much at all. I have had expensive bags that broke after 2 years
I gotta use the jansport for 2 months at uni until the ltt comes 👺 🤓
Might buy it after the 10 year reviews start coming out lol
I do feel like I'm gambling ordering with 17 reviews and no video reviews but
Whatever
I'll trust ltt ain't scamming me with some fatal flaw
theya re gonna release a video where they test the backpack
also did linus ever scam
No but on their first product I actually want from them, better be good lmao
have some faith
I just wanna know how big of sffpc case he can fit in there
Even better if it's feasible to put my pc and a few notebooks and crap in there
its on page 15 from the 5-star reviews as it was the first genuine review.. hope this helps
Not laptop
cant remember what video exactly but I think he put that DIY NAS 5hdd case in it.
oh sorry didn't read correct 😅
about 13L
the overnight emergency bag vid also shows some good usage with one of those massive jackery batteries.
Oh sick ok
Mines decently smaller than that
So plenty of room for just shoving in the pc even when my notebooks and laptop are already in there
Obviously assuming those extra liters are in the correct directions
the store be dead
on the Ultimate Steam Deck Alex had a Jackery battery in it as well
Yellow banana for scale has been out of stock since May smh
Nice nice
are the exact dimensions of the backpack listed somewhere that my dumb self can't find
or is it just vague liters
the dimensions of the biggest laptop sleeve are on the store page.. the rest is in litres only
and based on the Jackery power banks you can kinda guesstimate the size of the big main compartment
Can also estimate based off the 'fits under an airline seat' statement
that's exactly what I don't want to be estimating
there are exact measurement, respectively boxes in which the luggage needs to fit, which each airline defines
I don't understand this at all
neither the product dimensions
nor the shipping dimension
nor weight are listed
this isn't how you do e-commerce
they are providing a lot more info than others do, also an insane number of product shots.
that's a tougher one as each airline seat varies.. even if its by a few cm or inches.. I get the generalisation, but I am sure on most low cost companies it will be an issue for under the seat 😅
but they do show a lot.. a ton of pictures.. a full on video showcasing and stuffing towels and laptops in it.. its way more than your Adidas or hiker backpack gear
they give Litres for those as well.. and nothing else
The Backpack is so cool
you can probably just do some reverse calculations based off the external volume if you needed exact figures.
The backpack comments are like a twter thread rn. good luck support peeps
people 1 starring them because eu taxes for example
something they can't do anything about
Well if they really wanted to dump a shit ton of money they could ship straight to euro and have a warehouse there
No way that'd be worth it tho
at least some started to do it on 5-stars so its not "low rated" but its still stupid.. just complain on support channels if you are not okay with it.. why do you flood the reviews.. have to legit go thru 20 pages to find a normal one
thing is, you either wanna pay it or not. Being bitter and 1 starring them won't do anything except lowering the appeal for the backpack to people who won't bother reading the reviews
I never understood why non-verified reviews are even allowed 
Okay so I have a question. If someone paid and and then canceled before it was shipped, does the review still stay there?
its not that simple.. Linus has talked a bit about it on one of the WAN shows.. they would been to establish HQ and register under EU regulations.. or they would need a partner company to take over the stock.. and they would still need to do shipping between Canada and the warehouse in EU.. so the pricing will still be high.. only difference is maybe you get a bit faster delivery and no custom delays.. maybe
Why would u need to ship between the two?
because some stuff is made in canada
Mmm I see
screwdriver is assembled there for example
Gotcha
some of the shirts are their own print too
Surely shipping would be faster once it's chilling in euro tho
shirts are made in cn moved to ca for printing and sold to my limited understanding
I'd rather pay lets say 300€ for the backpack and 15€ for delivery rather than 250$ and 120$ in shipping + tax. But understandably it is not trivial to execute
also I'd guess that sending 3 huge containers to 1 destination is cheaper than splitting them to 2 destinations.. and then what if the EU ones don't sell and you need more for Canada.. need to ship there again
I really hope that the backpack custom fees are not extremely high in europe.
you will get your tax back.. you won't pay double
hey weird question. how likely would support be willing to replace a the reusable underwear packaging? I was planning to reuse it but it was ripped in shipping :/
I ordered the backpack but my only problem is gonna be that I paid $72 vat, but because the value is over €150 IOSS doesn't work anyway so need to pay VAT and duty when I receive it and then ask for a refund for the $72 so basically some of my money is being reserved fur dumb reasons
ofc.. it will be better.. but we are talking a multi million venture.. and us EU frogs are probably not as many as we seem to be to be fully worth it 😅
I dont speek about tax. Its about the duty and customs at the border.
I do have one idea for super glue but if it doesnt work Id be heckin sad
really depends on country and custom's agent.. some figure it out that you dont need to pay and some make you pay 
TAX is customs for EU
Statement on double-taxation in the European Union, United Kingdom, and Norway Some of our customers in the EU, UK and Norway have reported being charged for value-added tax (VAT) twice - both at the point of sale and the time of import or delivery. If you live in one of these regions, the following may apply to you. P
lmao so many unhappy people with nonsense reviews not even reviewing the product
is that what the chat is already about?
mainly yea
YEP
thought so 😂
It would be nice if here in Asia they'd ship directly from the factory in China, would save loads on shipping. But yeah I added it to cart during wave one and it got over $300
I just checked the site to see 140+ reviews, and thought "what the heck"
read some reviews and figured what was up haha
I know I need to pay cause for anything where value is over €150 you just have to pay, that's how it works here in Finland, customs says if the store made you pay for VAT anyway you need to get it back from them cause you can't use the IOSS for stuff that needs also duty payment
@fallen iris Check if you can handle the customs yourself. I don't know if it is EU or local laws but in here they offer you to handle the customs process yourself and then it the handling fee is waivered by the courier company
there were 19 legit reviews around 12 hours ago... the rest is just spam
https://www.lttstore.com/pages/customs-duty-fees i dont think so. But I could be wrong.
Customers are responsible for any customs and duty fees, which may be assessed to your order once it arrives in the destination country. LTTStore does not include any coverage for customs or duty fees in quoted shipping costs, or at any point in our checkout or billing process. If you have any questions related to cust
in Norway it's 25% VAT for everything over €30 (and that also includes the shipping costs) 😂
pretty rough
Statement on double-taxation in the European Union, United Kingdom, and Norway Some of our customers in the EU, UK and Norway have reported being charged for value-added tax (VAT) twice - both at the point of sale and the time of import or delivery. If you live in one of these regions, the following may apply to you. P
read this
I sent it for a reason
I'm just happy LTT actually calculate the taxes ahead of time lol
We only have 24% also including the shipping cost plus I'm not sure what the duty % is gonna be, depends on the outer material of the bag
I see that is Finnish rule.. In Sweden if the package is marked as custom fee paid in advance you don't need to pay again.. but sometimes you still do despite that 😅
Guessing Kaiser lives in Canada and doesn't have to deal with it irl
I said Sweden like 5 times
and I paid over 500$ for the backpack
and yet you complain more
and you didnt even get it
so
You got robbed
ahh, no additional fees here I think, just 25% and a €15 fee for processing it - unless it's already handled before it arrives here - so like $75 is what I paid for VAT lol, pretty insane...
can't blame LTT for that though lol
If it's under 150€ it usually works fine, sometimes it gets stuck and need to declare it but if seller will give IOSS number (which LTT store doesn't anyway for some reason) then I don't need to pay again
Here if the outside material is textile duty will be 2,7% and if it's plastic it will be 9,7%, I really hope it counts as textile
I really need and want a backpack, so I also got it at just under $400 USD 😂 I also like what LTT stands for, what they do, and don't mind supporting them
Same in the UK, under 150 is fine over and your hit for import and customs tax
this
they said recycled plastic or something in the vid
@chrome night support them by all means I want to do so too but to pay the cost of 2 for one item? .... Not much sense in that now is there
$250 as a base price is an expensive backpack (Linus has stated so himself multiple times), it's also pretty big, so $50 shipping is pretty reasonable... the rest of the cost can't be blamed on LTT 😛
it's easy, if you don't wanna spend the money don't get the backpack, yet they feel the need to keep saying how they will not get it cause it's expensive 
depends on your financial situation, how much you want THIS product etc
20-25 on the shipping is reasonable I think
400 total is pretty wild. Linus could be inside and I still wouldn’t pay that lol
Yeah, store page says something about polyester and I think wikipedia said polyester counts as textile though, maybe?
@chrome night well fella you must have money to burn.
I'd pay extra to not have a tiny tech man living inside my backpack
and you don't, we get it
its 20-25 for a small package.. its a huge backpack that they probably cannot even compress.. have you tried shipping to NA recently? prices are insane even with normal postage
not really, not like I'm bathing in money, but a lot of things in life comes down to priorities





