#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 90

humble rover Nov 18, 2021, 1:47 AM

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GPU significantly higher return, CPU projects currently can span several days and may not be ideal (both target important science goals obviously)

thick holly Nov 18, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Thanks!

hushed bobcat Nov 18, 2021, 4:30 AM

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in terms of PPD GPU's are way more efficient

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however in the sprit of F@H there are projects that can only be done on CPU's

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so if possible its nice to do some folding on the CPU

timber swift Nov 18, 2021, 3:32 PM

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As a PSA, anyone who did not sign up for the Folding event on the Forum by Nov 5th will not have their points tracked for the event.

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1380289-ltt-official-folding-month-2021/?do=getNewComment

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humble rover Nov 18, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Oh no I didnt sign up

scenic summit Nov 18, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Mine isn’t as cool 😔

hushed bobcat Nov 18, 2021, 7:44 PM

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man i want one of those

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or maybe a 4U version than can hold 8 GPUs

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and put some cheap P106 or P104 mining cards in it

scenic summit Nov 18, 2021, 8:12 PM

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It’s really really loud even by 1u standards.
It hauls ass with 4 a100

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They do make a 2u that holds 8 GPU

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/GPU-Server/G292-2G0-rev-100

GIGABYTE

G292-2G0 (rev. 100) | GPU Servers - GIGABYTE Global

Supports up to 16 x single slot GPU cards3rd Gen. Intel® Xeon® Scalable Processors8-Channel RDIMM/LRDIMM DDR4 per processor, 24 x DIMMsIntel® C621A Express ...

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Or 16 single slot in 2u

hushed bobcat Nov 18, 2021, 11:02 PM

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i would rather it be 4u 8 gpu

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so i can use any GPU i want for one

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and it should be quieter

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i dont really care about the density

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its just a home rack after all

humble rover Nov 18, 2021, 11:03 PM

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Some of those rosewill builds come out pretty decently lol

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One day ill put a rack in the basement and take advantage of cold canadian nights, networked storage would be a huge plus for me

hushed bobcat Nov 18, 2021, 11:04 PM

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its amazing

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humble rover Nov 18, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Jealous at all the US/EU server deals that I always see, then I remember the power bills lolol

hushed bobcat Nov 18, 2021, 11:07 PM

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the average draw from my rack isn't terrible

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it may be a little more now

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i changed one of the servers to a dual socket system

scenic summit Nov 19, 2021, 5:40 AM

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It’s mad watching this thing go all out on WCG

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I can’t seem to get it to fully load tho

drifting latch Nov 19, 2021, 9:14 AM

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scenic summit It’s mad watching this thing go all out on WCG

wow holy shit, I wonder what day I'll be upgrading to something at this level

livid wedge Nov 19, 2021, 2:41 PM

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New servers 😊🤤

humble rover Nov 19, 2021, 3:39 PM

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scenic summit It’s mad watching this thing go all out on WCG

How is that even a thing lol have you checked your % cpu usage preference?

scenic summit Nov 19, 2021, 4:15 PM

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humble rover How is that even a thing lol have you checked your % cpu usage preference?

Yea, I think I’m just finding bottleneck somewhere else in the system?
It floats 85-90% and uses 30-40GB of RAM lol

humble rover Nov 19, 2021, 4:41 PM

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That is very strange considering its a per-thread basis. Never seen something use more ram than chrome other than when we were doing rosetta haha
Cant say ive had issues loading up my 3900x, albeit in eco mode

scenic summit Nov 19, 2021, 8:25 PM

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humble rover That is very strange considering its a per-thread basis. Never seen something us...

3900x = 12 cores, 3995wx = 64 cores I think it may be a tdp limit thing

humble rover Nov 19, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Oh thought that was a screenshot under load lol mb

proven marlin Nov 19, 2021, 10:56 PM

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hmmm, depends on BOINC project. Some can require a bit of RAM per unit being crunch

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I know my 1950X loaded up gets quite RAM hungry on certain projects

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haven't tested the 5800X yet with BOINC; still tuning that toasty boi

scenic summit Nov 20, 2021, 7:10 AM

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I guess it isn’t too far from 100%
but I’m so used to seeing 100% across the board.

humble rover Nov 20, 2021, 2:03 PM

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That makes more sense lmao

hushed bobcat Nov 21, 2021, 9:09 PM

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https://foldingathome.org/2021/09/27/covid-moonshot-wellcome-trust-funding/?lng=en

Folding@home

John Chodera

COVID Moonshot funded by COVID-19 Therapeutics Accelerator to rapid...

We’re thrilled to report that the COVID Moonshot has been awarded a $10M grant from the Wellcome Trust on behalf of the World Health Organization (WHO) Access to COVID Tools…

rich depot Nov 22, 2021, 12:09 PM

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tmmyAngry

thick holly Nov 22, 2021, 12:51 PM

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So happy that when you install the new client it fixes the viewer issue.

hushed bobcat Nov 22, 2021, 2:00 PM

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yea, i think they fixed that sometime last year

thick holly Nov 22, 2021, 4:21 PM

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I am behind the times.

humble rover Nov 22, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Wait, people use the viewer??

hushed bobcat Nov 22, 2021, 4:56 PM

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pretty sure they use it once for like 1 min

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then never touch it again

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unless they want to show someone else

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i think the devs even said thats why they took soo long to fix it

humble rover Nov 22, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Haha true

hushed bobcat Nov 22, 2021, 4:56 PM

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not really that important and they had more important things to do

rich depot Nov 23, 2021, 12:34 PM

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:I

lost relic Nov 23, 2021, 7:50 PM

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:b

vital kettle Nov 26, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I have a question.

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For Folding@Home, is there a way to permanantly disable GPU usage?

humble rover Nov 26, 2021, 7:53 PM

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vital kettle For Folding@Home, is there a way to permanantly disable GPU usage?

Don't fold on full power, or remove the GPU slot

vital kettle Nov 26, 2021, 7:55 PM

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I already removed the GPU slot. My concern is that when I restart my computer, despite saving the setting of only having the CPU slot, it doesn't carry over through the restart and it tries to use the GPU again.

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I'm asking this because the Vega 8 iGPU in my laptop is not powerful enough to complete the tasks it's given.

humble rover Nov 26, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Odd, I dont remember that behaviour when I had multiple gpus in a rig but c'est comme ca

Anyways @vital kettle

You can disable automatic GPU reconfiguration during restart:

Start FAH so all GPUs are configured.

Delete your iGPU slot.

In FAHControl's Other_Client_Options of the Configure + Expert tab Add "gpu" with the value "false"
If you ever need to configure a new GPU, you'll need to temporarily remove that option, but that's not too likely on a laptop.

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=36781#p348817

Folding Forum • View topic - Client keeps re-adding specific unwant...

vital kettle Nov 26, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Ok, thank you.

thick holly Nov 27, 2021, 1:03 PM

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I am freaking out. I can't find my name on the team page but I signed up and it says my wu's are going to LTT. What did I do wrong?

thick holly Nov 27, 2021, 1:37 PM

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nm someone helped me find the correct page to search.

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timber swift Nov 30, 2021, 1:41 PM

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For anyone who wants to find their Folding Stats, here is the Team page.
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=223518

EXTREME Overclocking

LinusTechTips_Team Team Summary - Folding@Home Stats

F@H stats team summary for LinusTechTips_Team. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!

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You can use the side menu on the left to search XOC (ExtremeOverclocking) by user name to narrow it down to just your stats as well.

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If you're on the LTT Forums and have requested a Folding badge for your profile, your badge will also double as a link to your folding stats.

young burrow Dec 1, 2021, 2:24 PM

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what is this channel for?

spare widget Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 PM

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young burrow what is this channel for?

Discussion about Folding

humble rover Dec 1, 2021, 4:35 PM

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young burrow what is this channel for?

https://lmg.gg/folding

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young burrow Dec 1, 2021, 4:53 PM

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thanks

timber swift Dec 3, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Correct. You get a badge on your Forum account.

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https://linustechtips.com/topic/1069238-fh-and-boinc-badge-request-thread-last-update-2021-nov-29/?do=getNewComment

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F@H and BOINC Badge Request Thread [Last Update: 2021-NOV-29]

Since the primary two mods responsible for badge assignment duties (Whiskers and myself) haven't been around much in recent months, we've had a bit of a chat behind the scenes and thought we'd try something new. Instead of you having to try to figure out which mod to write a PM to in order to get...

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You have to meet certain total point milestones, defined in the OP of the thread I linked.

humble rover Dec 3, 2021, 2:59 PM

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You will be elligible for the points badge, but you may have missed the threshold for the events badge

timber swift Dec 3, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Event badges are separate from Point Milestone badges too

hushed bobcat Dec 4, 2021, 2:29 AM

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i think this is my 3rd event

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so hopefully ill get rid of the newbie badge

humble rover Dec 4, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Oh ya this deffo gets me out of newbie badge pls give mods 🙂

fickle needle Dec 4, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Does anyone have any experience running BOINC or other distributed computing project if for whatever reason you can’t use the proprietary Nvidia driver?

humble rover Dec 4, 2021, 2:59 AM

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Nope no idea but i'd imagine youd need cuda support somehow

fickle needle Dec 4, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Lame

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It’s gotta be possible, AMD cards fold fine without CUDA XD

hushed bobcat Dec 4, 2021, 6:24 AM

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pretty sure AMD cards use OpenGL for Folding at Home

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its possible the open source nvidia drivers would work

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only way to know is to try

fickle needle Dec 4, 2021, 6:54 AM

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lol, OpenGL?

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welp, FAHClient says 0 about OpenGL

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lol

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there's my answer, my GPU only supports up to OpenCL 1.1 and 1.2 is beeded

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so without CUDA i'm lost

humble rover Dec 4, 2021, 11:58 AM

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Wait what card are you even trying to use lmao

fickle needle Dec 6, 2021, 2:35 AM

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550 Ti

hushed bobcat Dec 6, 2021, 4:21 AM

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i thought the 500 series ended with the 560?

fickle needle Dec 6, 2021, 4:31 AM

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I mean, I dunno what it has to do with anything, but I have a 560 Ti and a 570 within arms reach XD

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my point isn't that I expect to grab any ancient piece of hardware and expect it to fold, I just think it's crazy that my ability to fold is limited to the proprietary driver

humble rover Dec 6, 2021, 4:34 AM

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Eh what else can you do if the cores are programmed specifically for a newer version of openCL

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Seems people have had luck rolling back to older drivers but ymmv

bronze spindle Dec 6, 2021, 8:49 AM

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/ac

dull flame Dec 6, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Hello. I'm having some kind of a problem with GPU utilization while running F@H. Some time after starting the client (usually after WU is done) Utilization Limit turns on and memory clock drops to 5002. And from that point on only way to turn off that limit while folding is to reboot the PC. If I launch the game everything is fine and it turns off as it should. Turns off even for F@H Viewer thing. Card is RTX 3080 FE

safe swan Dec 6, 2021, 1:50 PM

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dull flame Hello. I'm having some kind of a problem with GPU utilization while running F@H....

could that be the miner prevention thing in nvidia driver?

dull flame Dec 6, 2021, 1:51 PM

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safe swan could that be the miner prevention thing in nvidia driver?

Probably not. Card isn't LHR and mining seems to work fine

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Are there any way to test that?

safe swan Dec 6, 2021, 1:53 PM

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dull flame Probably not. Card isn't LHR and mining seems to work fine

I think even if its not LHR they did a dirty in the driver

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https://www.xda-developers.com/nvidia-geforce-drivers-reinstate-ethereum-mining-limitations/

xda-developers

Kunal Khullar

NVIDIA releases new drivers to resintate mining limitations on RTX ...

NVIDIA has released new GeForce Game Ready drivers that once again introduce the Ethereum mining limiter on the RTX 3060. Read on!

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there was a beta driver where they accidentally unlocked it

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you could see if that makes a difference

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470.05 beta

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would need to do DDU to uninstall first

dull flame Dec 6, 2021, 2:14 PM

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safe swan https://www.xda-developers.com/nvidia-geforce-drivers-reinstate-ethereum-mining-...

I don't think that related, since ETH miner does not have any problems with utilization limit and, by the looks of it, performing as it should. I'm getting around ~80MH/s with 60% power limit and everything else at stock.

Anyway, probably good idea to clean install drivers

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I'm thinking it probably windows or driver related. Also found some old thread suggesting to increase virtual memory size. Now waiting to see if that helps

safe swan Dec 6, 2021, 2:31 PM

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I mean you could try it anyway and see if it makes it faster for mining too

dull flame Dec 6, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Looks like increasing virtual memory limit may have worked. So far without being utilization limited.

safe swan Dec 6, 2021, 7:40 PM

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dull flame Looks like increasing virtual memory limit may have worked. So far without being...

cool

obtuse frost Dec 6, 2021, 8:27 PM

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dull flame Hello. I'm having some kind of a problem with GPU utilization while running F@H....

I have the same thing with my 3070ti fe and increasing the memory clock didn't work. I've wrote a little batch file that disables and re-enables the device which fixes the memory clock lock without needing a reboot; you can do it manually in computer management but I like 3 line batch files that save me from wasting 5 seconds compared to doing it through that. I haven't found anything in event logs so I can't set it to auto run the batch file - I just run it when I notice it's locked which is every few days

dull flame Dec 6, 2021, 8:40 PM

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obtuse frost I have the same thing with my 3070ti fe and increasing the memory clock didn't w...

Dunno how it is even related, but so far increasing swap file size seems to work for me. It still may be coincidence tho

dull flame Dec 8, 2021, 8:22 AM

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So far folding without being stuck on the limiter. Looks like it is safe to assume that increasing windows virtual memory thing has worked

hushed bobcat Dec 8, 2021, 8:34 AM

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interesting

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i increased that a long time ago for a modded minecraft pack i had

hushed bobcat Dec 8, 2021, 11:17 AM

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so i never ran into that issue

toxic wing Dec 10, 2021, 1:20 AM

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does folding @ home work on brave browser

humble rover Dec 10, 2021, 1:21 AM

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Probably

toxic wing Dec 10, 2021, 1:22 AM

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i havent folded in a long time and it isnt really working i might just reinstall

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oh nvm it is waiting for work i think

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is the gpu going too once it finds work?

humble rover Dec 10, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Yes

toxic wing Dec 10, 2021, 1:23 AM

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ok thanks

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i dont think it works for brave just has me stuck here

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chrome was good right away though

toxic wing Dec 10, 2021, 1:44 AM

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is it normal to take a long time to find jobs? nothing yet. set to supporting all disease

toxic wing Dec 10, 2021, 2:01 AM

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oh i found the isue i had it to only run when im on idle

plain patio Dec 11, 2021, 4:52 PM

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tacit hemlock Dec 11, 2021, 5:05 PM

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plain patio

nice

plain patio Dec 12, 2021, 2:05 PM

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plain patio

Thinkpad

grizzled jay Dec 12, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I'm 69th... NICE

humble rover Dec 12, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Ive been going for 69th all event D:

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Also thats one day out of date lol

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Less than 4 hours until they call it

hushed bobcat Dec 12, 2021, 10:05 PM

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oohh

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i thought it ended on the 7th

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oops

humble rover Dec 13, 2021, 12:08 AM

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🏁

placid goblet Dec 13, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Another joins the Fold

humble rover Dec 13, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Madlad flexing the 690s

placid goblet Dec 13, 2021, 11:57 PM

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They do their job

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Funny number, Fold, and Minecraft

humble rover Dec 14, 2021, 12:45 AM

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Ofc when folding month ends

azure elk Dec 14, 2021, 12:49 PM

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Nice

timber swift Dec 14, 2021, 1:09 PM

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wHOA 2.5M on a 1080??? You're making my 1080ti jealous!

azure elk Dec 14, 2021, 1:18 PM

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I turned on FAH, but it's not detecting the GPU.

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I'll have to dig into that one.

azure elk Dec 14, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I think I have all the GPUs and all the cores running now. It looks like the stats aren't updating quite yet.

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The FAHControl UI reports the GPU is disabled, but FAHClient is definitely maxing all of the GPUs out.

humble rover Dec 15, 2021, 1:15 PM

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https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/article.s?articleId=750

Open-source software from OpenPandemics - COVID-19 helps the resear...

The OPN team is developing open-source tools that help improve the predictions run in WCG and benefit researchers worldwide.

azure elk Dec 15, 2021, 1:39 PM

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I had a few minutes this morning to fix my FAH setup on linux:

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It's correctly detecting everything now and properly using the GPUs

azure elk Dec 15, 2021, 2:23 PM

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First time I've run FAH on a 3090, it's crushing it.

hushed bobcat Dec 15, 2021, 10:52 PM

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whats your PPD?

placid goblet Dec 16, 2021, 2:18 AM

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hushed bobcat whats your PPD?

Answer: Yes

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 2:18 AM

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lol

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interesting

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according to the LAR systems database the 3080 Ti actually has more PPD than the 3090

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hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 2:43 AM

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man i wish i had the money to build a dedicated folding rig

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or you know, if parts were even available

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 8:05 AM

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I should have kept my 3070

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@hushed bobcat 13,872,233

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I'm also running linux.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 8:14 AM

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ahh

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i was looking at overall avg ppd

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if you just look at linux ppd then the 3090 is top dog

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Yeah, it crushes through work units pretty fast.

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temps are holding pretty decent

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:32 AM

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yea i'd be comfortable running that 24/7

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doesnt look like you're using a limiter

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personally i run all my cards at 80%

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:35 AM

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YOLO

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:36 AM

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YEET

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:36 AM

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what I need to do is get one of those optical cables so i can rack my workstation down in the basement.

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This is an old pic and things have changed in this rack, but I want to rack my workstation here

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I swapped out that Juniper ex2200 for a EX4800 and a QFX3500

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:39 AM

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azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:39 AM

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Nice.

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I have three of these racks in my basement.

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Just full of servers and storinators

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:39 AM

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i plan on re-doing the network cables

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Yeah, my racks are a mess.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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make it cleaner

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i dont think i could afford a Storinator

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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I want to put my workstation in the rack and switch it to 40GB Fiber

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Yeah, they were pricey, something like 22k each

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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good lord

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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Yeah. It's like 1.1PB of storage.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:40 AM

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everything in my rack put together would be like 3-4k

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im up to 40TB

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:41 AM

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I think all my crap is about 150K

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:42 AM

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last year i built a folding rig

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:42 AM

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hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:42 AM

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for the COVID sprint

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:42 AM

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I have to say, i love the storinators.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:42 AM

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ill link my 2 storage servers

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nothing compared to yours of course

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i call this one the SuperNAS

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:44 AM

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I built this guy early this year to do some testing.

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It would have been fun to test FAH on this.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:44 AM

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whats the bus bandwidth on those slots?

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:45 AM

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1x

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:45 AM

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it would be terrible

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Does FAH use much bandwidth?

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I wouldnt think it does since it is just doing a mathematical calculation

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:45 AM

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from my testing you need a minimum of a PCIE 3.0 4x slot

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its passing data between the GPU and CPU

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thats why you need a couple threads open on your CPU per GPU

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:46 AM

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ok, yeah, that probably would be terrible

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:46 AM

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i bought some old mining cards for folding

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P106-90's

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i found they were using PCIE 1.0 or 2.0 4x

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:46 AM

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yeah, at one point this rack had a 3090, 3080, 3070, 3060 ti, 3x1080ti's, and 3x1070s

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:47 AM

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and according to MSI afterburner were almost maxing out the PCI Bus

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what i wasnt able to determine is if you need much more bandwidth for more powerful cards

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i had GTX 660 Ti's, GTX 970's P106-90's and a 1080Ti

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and only the 1080Ti seemed to use slightly more bandwidth

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if you could find some of those breakout cards that use PCIE 4.0 and the higher end USB maybe that could work

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personally im looking at a GPU Shelf from gigabyte

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/GPU-Server/G492-Z52-rev-A00

GIGABYTE

G492-Z52 (rev. A00) | GPU Servers - GIGABYTE Global

Up to 10 x PCIe Gen4 GPU cardsDual AMD EPYC™ 7003 series processor family8-Channel RDIMM/LRDIMM DDR4 per processor, 32 x DIMMsDual ROM Architecture supporte...

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like this, except you know something i could actually afford

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:50 AM

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haha

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I stopped using my mining rack after i was done with my testing.

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That's a pretty awesome rack.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:52 AM

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the SuperMicro 2U GPU chassis are actually quite affordable

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i can get one for $200-350

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:52 AM

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I had 4 GPUs in my workstation at one point, but it was just way too hot.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:53 AM

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but im pretty sure you can only reasonably put Teslas in them (because thats what they were designed for)

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perhaps Quadro's

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they will fit 4 GPU's though

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:53 AM

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nince

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I wanted the EPYC for my workstation, but they were too expensive

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:53 AM

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https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/2U/2029/SYS-2029GP-TR.cfm

2029GP-TR | 2U | SuperServers | Products | Super Micro Computer, Inc.

The SYS-2029GP-TR GPU system is optimized for AI, deep learning, and/or HPC applications with support of the latest GPU interconnect technologies including NVIDIA® NVLink™.

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you know 1st gen epyc is actually pretty cheap on eBay right now

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:54 AM

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Yeah, I wanted the 64-core

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:57 AM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/165178337015?hash=item26756566f7:g:ZNsAAOSw-91g-xan

eBay

AMD EPYC™ 7401P P/N PS740PBEVHCAF | eBay

AMD EPYC™ 7401P. We're confident in our goods and services. so we can assist you with your concerns. There's no problem that we cannot solve. Default TDP / TDP: 155/170W.

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look at that

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:57 AM

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nice

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:57 AM

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24 core / 48 threads for $300

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if you're willing to buy from china ive seen the 32 core for a little more

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:58 AM

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is that compatible with SP3r2?

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:58 AM

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right now my newest server is Xeon V6 i think

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one is V3, and one is V2

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so pretty old stuff

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 9:59 AM

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azure elk is that compatible with SP3r2?

they revised the socket?

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i have noticed quite a few Supermicro server boards wont support all 3 generations of EPYC

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if any

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Yeah, it's a different rev, looks like its the same size, but there are some pins disabled....

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It looks like the TR4 will prevent an SP3 from working

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:00 AM

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yea i was pretty sure you cant run threadripper in sp3 boards

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:00 AM

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It might work...

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:00 AM

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you might like one of my servers

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:01 AM

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But I don't think you can use EPYC in the SP3r2 TR4 boards

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:01 AM

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azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:01 AM

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nice

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:02 AM

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and yes, it does have IPMI

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i dont recommend it

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ASRock Rack's support IMO has been terrible

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you remember the bug with AMD CPU's and Linux?

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right after launch

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something about the random number generator and encryption

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:04 AM

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I've been with Intel until just earlier this year

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:04 AM

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well basically if you ran a Ryzen CPU on Linux it would kernal panic

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unless you disabled something in Linux

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Yeah, Ii saw a lot of the kernnel patches for that

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:05 AM

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kind of a problem

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well a fix also had to be applied to the CPU Microcode via a BIOS update

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it took ASRock Rack over 6 months to actually push the update...

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so that means a server class motherboard could not run ANY linux based OS properly

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since its launch up to about 8 months later

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https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X470D4U#Download

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you see the launch BIOS was on 3/8/2019?

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that bug wasnt fixed until the AGESA 1.0.0.3 Patch ABBA

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which was on 12/11/2019

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ohh something else thats annoying,

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you need to be careful buying Epyc CPU's used

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if they are put in a Dell server they are locked to Dell for life

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meaning you cant put that CPU in ANY other motherboard but a Dell

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:11 AM

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nice lol

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I like my board, but there is one annoyance.

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One of the nvme slots shares an io port with one of the NICs

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At some point, I'll add a SFP+ 10G PCIe card to overcome the issue

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:14 AM

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i put a 10G card in between my 2 NAS's

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Intel X540 i think

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:15 AM

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My Storinator has 2x10GB SFP+ cards in a LAG

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:15 AM

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unfortunatly i can only get about 2.5G out of it

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:15 AM

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Then I have 2x10GB SFP+ in Trunk mode between my QFX and EX switches

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:16 AM

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https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/new-firmware-update-reportedly-solves-ryzen-3000-boot-issues-linux.html

Guru3D.com

New Firmware update Reportedly solves Ryzen 3000 boot issues Linux

We don't talk about Linus a lot, as the install base is small and not really the PC Gamers domain, however as it turns out Linux users have had Boot issues with Ryzen 3000. A problem that is now conf...

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I tried Link Aggregation

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didnt really work

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all it did was use 1 for Recv and 1 for Send

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to be fair i probably had it set up wrong

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:17 AM

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yeah, LACP can be a bit annoying at times.

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I've had more luck with using LACP on higher end switches like Cisco and Juniper.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:18 AM

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i have a 1st gen Ubiquiti

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but ive been trying to move to 10G

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its still just too expensive for me

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I like the Ubiquiti Wifi stuff, I have a Dream Machine and a couple UAP Nano HD APs

rich depot Dec 16, 2021, 10:19 AM

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lol the article says we dont talk about linus a lot

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:21 AM

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haha, lame

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Linux is the only thing worth talking about 😉

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Linux fights me

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but thats a story for another time

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actually its several stories

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:23 AM

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I've only ever run Linux on my personal machines.

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20+ years

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:25 AM

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im a gamer/power user

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i had tried ubuntu on a whim but that was about it

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:26 AM

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I'm a software engineer/embedded developer.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:26 AM

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i only really tried learing linux when i build my first NAS

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unfortunately due to a combination of

using Windows my entire computer life
having absolutely no instruction or anyone i could turn to for advice (im the main computer nerd in my circle)

My experience with Linux has been like getting kicked in the nuts over and over

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:28 AM

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You get used to the last one.

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lol

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:29 AM

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to be fair, most of my problems were with FreeNAS

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which is FreeBSD, which i think is loosely based on UNIX

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due to 2 events i will probably never even try Arch based systems again

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if i can possibly help it

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i almost gave CentOS a shot

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but when i realized i dont know the package manager on CentOS i switched to Ubuntu Server

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and then was immediately disappointed when 6 hours after i completed the install and setup of the server

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it required a reboot to install an update...

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(i should note the entire reason i switched to linux at all was because i was tired of Windows 10 rebooting whenever it wanted when i had servers running in the background)

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:36 AM

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Linux is pretty stable.

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Here is one of my machines....

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10:36:42 up 377 days,  9:48,  1 user,  load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:37 AM

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woo

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beats my record

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i think this is my all time record

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Here's me record for Windows

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well Windows 10 anyway

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its possible i beat this on a Windows 7 machine, but i dont have any pictures of it

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meanwhile my stupid ESXi box can barely make it a week without crashing....

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though i think i have it figured out

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:43 AM

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I just realized, we completely hijacked the folding channel to talk about random things lol

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:43 AM

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well i mean

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we did throw in some GPU rigs for folding....

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and the racks we would put them in...

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:44 AM

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And in summary, this is why you should fold with Linux.

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Alright, we made it full circle, we're good.

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:44 AM

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lol

rich depot Dec 16, 2021, 10:44 AM

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what is folding

azure elk Dec 16, 2021, 10:44 AM

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....

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lol

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:45 AM

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well one of my tests did involve swapping a win7 system to linux and folding on it for 6 months straight

rich depot Dec 16, 2021, 10:45 AM

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i loathe apple swipe type

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:46 AM

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rich depot what is folding

https://foldingathome.org/about-2/?lng=en

Folding@home

Folding@Home

About - Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases.…

rich depot Dec 16, 2021, 10:46 AM

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ahhhh i know what this is

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i just didn't know that was the name for it

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:46 AM

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TL:DR we "donate" our hardware to crunch numbers for medical research

rich depot Dec 16, 2021, 10:47 AM

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yes i remember now thank u

hushed bobcat Dec 16, 2021, 10:47 AM

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👍

azure elk Dec 17, 2021, 1:52 PM

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The two 30 series and thread ripper are doing pretty good on FAH so far.

midnight smelt Dec 17, 2021, 8:04 PM

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i have a question.. GTX460, should i use ArchLinux To Fold, or Windows?

humble rover Dec 17, 2021, 9:13 PM

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midnight smelt i have a question.. GTX460, should i use ArchLinux To Fold, or Windows?

If you're comfortable with it, linux offers slightly higher ppd

midnight smelt Dec 17, 2021, 10:18 PM

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alr

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thx

proven marlin Dec 18, 2021, 12:20 AM

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azure elk You get used to the last one.

ah yes....the good ol, continue kicking until ya love it (probably explains by slight derangement as I work as living on a RHEL system)

proven marlin Dec 18, 2021, 12:22 AM

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hushed bobcat which is FreeBSD, which i think is loosely based on UNIX

BSD is just special as is. I just warn, don't get to the point ya have to fight a netApp controller (especially if said controller is like nah fam, ain't my drives)

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 1:27 AM

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My Linux numbers are awesome atm

vital kettle Dec 18, 2021, 5:30 AM

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My poor laptop... It's gonna be toasting for that long.

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But, this is for the sake of making cancer research more efficient

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 12:30 PM

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nice

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I may need to change out my hardware configg a bit, my case is ggetting too hot

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 1:03 PM

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azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 1:19 PM

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My PPD seems to fluctuate between 14mil - 14.3mil.

vital kettle Dec 18, 2021, 1:31 PM

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Looked at the log and it seems to be doing a percent of the project (which is 10 million steps total) every 34 minutes.

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 1:36 PM

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nice

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Later today I am going to add an 8-core ryzen and a 3060 ti to FAH

vital kettle Dec 18, 2021, 1:43 PM

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And the project in question...
https://stats.foldingathome.org/project/18402

Folding@home | Statistics

Folding@home Statistics

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 1:48 PM

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cool

vital kettle Dec 18, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Just figured out that the 34 minutes per 1% I mentioned is what the Estimated TPF is for.

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I feel like my brain just expanded once more. 😆

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 3:06 PM

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lol

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Temps are still staying reasonable

unreal star Dec 18, 2021, 3:38 PM

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What is folding and boinc

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Platforms that allow home users to setup their computers to do scientific research.

unreal star Dec 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Oh

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I shouldnt be here then

azure elk Dec 18, 2021, 3:39 PM

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Folding at home client accepts jobs, your compute runs algorithms for protein folding and sends the results back to researchers.

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Keeping the temps down seems to boost the ppd a bit:

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humble rover Dec 18, 2021, 11:47 PM

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unreal star What is folding and boinc

https://foldingathome.org/about-2/?lng=en
https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/BOINC-Berkeley-Open-Infrastructure-for-Network-Computing

Folding@home

Folding@Home

About - Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases.…

WhatIs.com

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) ...

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing)? This definition explains what the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure is and how it facilitates volunteer computing efforts.

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But yeah trimming power limits and giving a slight OC is a nice boost for ppd, at least on pascal cards

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I doubt you'd want to keep it near max draw on ampere anyways\

rich depot Dec 19, 2021, 10:21 AM

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i dont think hes on pascal

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wow i'm late that was a whole day ago

azure elk Dec 19, 2021, 11:40 AM

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yeah, im on ampere

rancid frost Dec 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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I've been quiet for a while, but I'm continuing to work.

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My PSU has been upgraded from 850W to 1000W for increased stability, and I average a little over 2mil PPD.

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The system is so stable, I can run a VDI for my work from home even while folding on CPU and both GPUs.

hushed bobcat Dec 20, 2021, 2:44 AM

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i play video games while folding

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my FPS is defiantly lower, but its rarely unplayable

rancid frost Dec 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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More powerful games can strain it a bit, but most games I play these days are pretty lightweight.

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I'm perfectly happy playing SoR4 over the net with my buddy.

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Or celebrating the holiday season with VA-11 HALL-A for the millionth time.

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 11:44 AM

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I've been running FAH for almost 5 days. Crushed through 228 WUs and earned 68,586,070 points.

vital kettle Dec 20, 2021, 1:15 PM

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100,000 more steps, and it'll finally be done...

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 1:30 PM

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The 3090 can get most jobs done in around an hour

vital kettle Dec 20, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Just... wow. Is this with CUDA enhancement as well?

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 1:38 PM

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I am just running NVIDIA Driver 495.29.05 and CUDA 11.5.

vital kettle Dec 20, 2021, 1:52 PM

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My job's finished and sent.

vital kettle Dec 20, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Oh my God...

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 2:19 PM

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boom

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I managed to creep up to 564th place after folding for 5 days

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(for the month of december)

humble rover Dec 20, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Anything between 300 and 500 is quick progress because those ranks all stopped or are doing minimal work

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Above 500m is where a bunch of regulars are

azure elk Dec 20, 2021, 5:46 PM

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I am doing around 15mil ppd a day, i think i should be in the 400s in a another day or 2

placid goblet Dec 21, 2021, 3:52 AM

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Meanwhile I'm proud of my 500K PPD with 4 GPUs

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And there are people doing WUs in an hour

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I spend a day per WU minimum

hushed bobcat Dec 21, 2021, 7:49 AM

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placid goblet I spend a day per WU minimum

keep in mind WU's have a time limit

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if you exceed that limit the results will be thrown out

rose tundra Dec 21, 2021, 3:46 PM

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I started on single core machines lol

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that PPW

hushed bobcat Dec 21, 2021, 11:03 PM

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i remember folding on the PS3

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i just wish i could remember the PPD

humble rover Dec 21, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Google says around 1k ppd, which is far surpassed by even a pi cluster in todays folding

hushed bobcat Dec 22, 2021, 2:04 AM

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ohh wow

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i didn't think it would be that low haha

icy elbow Dec 22, 2021, 9:47 AM

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we're currently trying to heat as little as possible becasue there's a shortage on wood pellets, so i'm doing this for heating my room right now

hushed bobcat Dec 22, 2021, 11:02 AM

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ooh pellet stove, never seen one in person

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what CPU is that? 16 threads is quite a bit

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5950x?

proven marlin Dec 22, 2021, 7:49 PM

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finally cold weather show up here

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will probably fire up the big boi for some crunching soon

humble rover Dec 22, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Its unsettling how theres almost no snow around the great lakes... pain

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Question, how effective would a GTX460 and a C2Q at 2.5ghz be? Aka how many tasks would it push a day?

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Or points, or something-

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Using archlinux, and well, going full blast

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 12:04 AM

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id assume the c2q would get around 3-4k ppd

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 12:04 AM

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I might have time to set that up tomorrow. There is only a small problem. I wouldn't want to waste resources on a X env, so, id need to somehow controll it via the terminal, or well, somehow get access to the webcontrol

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 12:04 AM

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just going off the fact that my c2d 6600 got around 1500

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Hm.. i still have a lot of laptops that are capable of win xp sp3 and higher

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So, could fold on those too

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And desktops are also existant here

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 12:05 AM

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midnight smelt I might have time to set that up tomorrow. There is only a small problem. I woul...

could you configure it in x, and then drop to terminal when you’re not using it

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Unpreferred..

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Id like to just turn them on, and let it fold

proven marlin Dec 23, 2021, 12:52 AM

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humble rover Its unsettling how theres almost no snow around the great lakes... pain

yeah, even for Florida, this is quite late for some cooler weather to show up

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I just hope we get a week or two of a decent freeze.....otherwise, be another nasty year of the bugs again

humble rover Dec 23, 2021, 12:55 AM

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midnight smelt Question, how effective would a GTX460 and a C2Q at 2.5ghz be? Aka how many task...

Thats pushing on nearly too old lol
GTX460 ~40k
C2Q ~2k

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/overall_ranks

GPU Folding@Home PPD Overall Ranks Database

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 1:01 AM

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humble rover Thats pushing on nearly too old lol GTX460 ~40k C2Q ~2k https://folding.lar.sys...

As a space heater it works. And i would be using Arch, without any unnessesary resource usage

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And well, it can actually game.

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But well, going to winter, i noticed that the temps in my room are at like.. 17C which is too low for my taste. So i would turn the heating off completely, and just blast that thing

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How much would a "AMD Radeon HD 8280E graphics" push?

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Or some Geforce 8400M G 128mb?

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Or a AMD Turion 64 X2,
Celeron M something (very old, 32bit, single core, 1.1GHz(

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Like, i have a loot of old hardware just waiting to be used

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If anyone in this project could make use of a i286, completly headless, i might be an option-

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Or a CDTV (yeah, k, the last two things i meantioned are too crazy

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 2:01 AM

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midnight smelt Or some Geforce 8400M G 128mb?

that would be useless
i don’t think it even supports that anymore

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Very possible.

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 2:02 AM

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as for the cpus they might work, but whether any of the ones listed could even finish a single work unit in the allotted time is up for debate OMEGALUL

humble rover Dec 23, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Graphics cards older than fermi are not supported by current FAH cores

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 2:04 AM

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at that point the cost in power both to you and the environment vastly outweighs the small benefit of folding with that hardware

hushed bobcat Dec 23, 2021, 2:28 AM

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keep in mind what Dogecode said, if you cant complete the WU in the time allotted the results will be thrown out

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i have 2 660Ti's that get trounced by P106-90's that i got on eBay for $25

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of course i understand the desire to keep using old hardware that still works

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but when you actually need to get work done in a reasonable time there comes a point when the old stuff needs to retire

midnight smelt Dec 23, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Well, space heater, as i said.

high willow Dec 23, 2021, 2:43 PM

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the Turion and the radeon 8280e would be the only ones id even attempt to fold on
I folded successfully on a mobile core 2 duo, so I think most things with 2 cores should manage, not that theyll be fast
as for the celeron M idk, that’s an old 1c1t cpu

humble rover Dec 24, 2021, 2:04 PM

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https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/article.s?articleId=753

Volunteers donated over 2 million years of computations

While we work hard at the transition, we would like to thank everyone that made it possible

vital kettle Dec 25, 2021, 7:22 PM

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humble rover https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/article.s?articleId=753

Oh wow.

fickle needle Dec 31, 2021, 10:16 PM

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midnight smelt Like, i have a loot of old hardware just waiting to be used

There are two of us!

midnight smelt Dec 31, 2021, 11:36 PM

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fickle needle There are two of us!

the more the more powerful.

fickle needle Jan 1, 2022, 12:56 AM

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i've been able to fold on a GTS 450, so a 460 should be fine

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frankly i've never checked on the PPD other than just making sure it can complete assignments by deadline XD

placid goblet Jan 1, 2022, 7:05 AM

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fickle needle There are two of us!

Make that three, I have my Pentium III Katmai system run BOINC

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Takes about 10 days for 1 PrimeGrid task

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But it doesn't do much else

high willow Jan 1, 2022, 7:08 AM

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lol

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wonder if you could use a pentium II

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wouldn’t be practical ofc but neither is a pIII

fickle needle Jan 1, 2022, 7:24 AM

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lol

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i had two P4 machines CPU folding, but I finally retired them

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they were tanks

placid goblet Jan 1, 2022, 8:52 AM

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high willow wonder if you could use a pentium II

I think as long as they have SSE you can

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Don’t remember if P2’s had SSE

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Yeah P3 Katmai minimum

rich depot Jan 1, 2022, 10:41 AM

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ligma

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sorey wrong thing

untold valve Jan 6, 2022, 12:52 AM

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im gonna throw my questino into here

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anyone here know a thing about the memory market (on the supply side) had some questions about next year and 10 year horizon ... there is supposed to be an oversupply of DRAM that should cause ASP to drop by a few percent in H1 but idk how robust that will be given how strong the demand has and will continue to be

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know its ont folding related but thought ppl in here would know

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plz @ me

placid goblet Jan 6, 2022, 3:36 AM

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untold valve know its ont folding related but thought ppl in here would know

Ask in #tech-chat-1 , this is a F@H + BOINC + WCG (which is probably part of BOINC I'm not clear on that) channel

lament crest Jan 6, 2022, 8:48 AM

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you can BOINC me all night

hollow ember Jan 7, 2022, 6:56 AM

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It's cold tonight so I fired up F@H for the first time in a long time. So long in fact that I remember it warming the office it was in by a substantial amount but in a more open environment it's barely even warm.

midnight smelt Jan 7, 2022, 8:58 PM

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hey guys

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i need a bit of help on linux here

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ArchLinux, to be accurate

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i installed the foldingathume aur package

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and also did the configure thingy

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enabled and started the uh.. systemd services

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aka foldingathome and foldingathime-nvidia

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but it is not utilising my GTX460 if i see this right

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[custom@FAHServer foldingathome]$ nvidia-smi
Fri Jan  7 22:00:10 2022       
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 390.147                Driver Version: 390.147                   |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
|   0  GeForce GTX 460     Off  | 00000000:01:00.0 N/A |                  N/A |
| 40%   27C   P12    N/A /  N/A |      0MiB /   962MiB |     N/A      Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                               
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                       GPU Memory |
|  GPU       PID   Type   Process name                             Usage      |
|=============================================================================|
|    0                    Not Supported                                       |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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doesnt look like its doing anything to me.

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ive installed those drivers

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are the lib32 nessesary?

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currently getting the two lib32 ones too

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also id like the client to fully use everything in that system

midnight smelt Jan 7, 2022, 9:41 PM

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sooo

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windows it is ok

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 8:10 AM

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I'm quite stumped on how to fold with a CPU AND a GPU. My setup right now is a FX 965BE and a very old GPU but still good enough.. a Radeon 5770. How do i enable my F@H to use both up? Running on Windows 10. Also using 16GB of DDR3 RAM. It's a old system and I upgraded from 7 to 10 on this rig. Better to use it up anyway than let it gather dust.

golden river Jan 16, 2022, 10:18 AM

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errant belfry I'm quite stumped on how to fold with a CPU AND a GPU. My setup right now is a F...

dont use the web thing use the software you cant use the service option as it only support CPU if gc arent use by default you can ad em manually

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:32 AM

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Which software?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:32 AM

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i think he means the advanced client

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what power level do you have it set to?

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if its on light it wont use the GPU i think

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:32 AM

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That's what I'm using but it won't let me use my gpu. And maxed out

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:33 AM

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can you post a snip of it?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:33 AM

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I can try.

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:33 AM

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windows key + shift + s opens up the snipping tool

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personally i like rectangular snip mode

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once you take the snip you can just cntrl + v into discord

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:34 AM

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That's the problem. Even If I max it out.. my gpu is still disabled

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:36 AM

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?

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i know thats the problem, im asking you to post a shot so i can help diagnose it

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:37 AM

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One moment

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Just have to download discord

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:38 AM

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ahh your're on mobile?

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so i need this

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and this

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:41 AM

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hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:41 AM

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hmm

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ive never seen it say disabled before

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system info tab please

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:42 AM

#

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where?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:43 AM

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next to status tab

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errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:43 AM

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ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:43 AM

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i blanked out my user name

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:45 AM

#

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:46 AM

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well its detecting the OpenCL device

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:46 AM

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yeah

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:46 AM

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can you show edit on your GPU slot?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:46 AM

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where?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 AM

#

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 AM

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oh ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 AM

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Configure - Slots - click on GPU - Edit

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:47 AM

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got it

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hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:48 AM

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yea that all looks good

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:48 AM

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so why is it not enabled?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:49 AM

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what driver are you using?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:49 AM

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the latest for my 5770

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its a old card

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hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:50 AM

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15.2

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hmm that meets minimum

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what happens when you right click the slot?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:51 AM

#

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I clicked Fold and nothing

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:52 AM

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did you just install folding on this computer?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:52 AM

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yes

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:52 AM

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reboot

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:52 AM

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I rebooted like 3 times

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Rebooting now

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Still disabled

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:54 AM

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delete it and re add it

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:56 AM

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still disabled

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:56 AM

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this is probably unrelated, but you said in your original post you had 16GB of RAM, but the system info page says 8GB

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:56 AM

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I'm using the 64 bit Windows

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:57 AM

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? that doesnt matter?

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if it was 32-bit you could only use 3.5

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:57 AM

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Sorry. force of habit

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How can I fix that?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:57 AM

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what does task manager say?

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errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:58 AM

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that's weird. I could have swore it's 16GB

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Lemme confirm in BIOS

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:58 AM

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also, i would like to see a snip of every step of you adding that GPU slot

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if you dont mind

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:58 AM

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it says 8GB in my task manager as well

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I know there's 16 in here

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 10:59 AM

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kk, just wanted you to be aware

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a system that old would be unlikely to even support 16GB of RAM

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well its DDR3....

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DDR2 systems usually topped out at 8GB of RAM

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 10:59 AM

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Yeah it's ddr3

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What the? It says 8gb too in bios

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:00 AM

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i would physically check the RAM

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:01 AM

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It's 4x4 ram

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:02 AM

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sounds like you have a hardware problem

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not sure if its related to your GPU slot issue, but its not good either way

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:03 AM

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They're all seated

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Do I have a dead ram stick?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:04 AM

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it could be several things

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memory controller

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slots themselves

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or the RAM

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:05 AM

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Well I haven't fired the pc up in a few years

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:05 AM

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but 2 sticks going bad at the same time would be super weird

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ahh a few years

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i would pull the RAM in pairs and see what the BIOS says

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:05 AM

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Do I need to get a new set of ddr3 if that is even possible?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:06 AM

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i think you can still get DDR3

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actually with the silicon shortage it may be easier than getting DDR5 right now....

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:06 AM

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Ok. I need to figure out which set to take out

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If I recall.. the black slots should be out right?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:07 AM

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its determined by motherboard manufacturer

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:07 AM

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It's a gigabyte

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:07 AM

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also the generation

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in modern systems you actually want to populate the furthest slots first

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but older systems the nearest slots are first

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usually

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:08 AM

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Ok. It says 4gb

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That's odd.

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:09 AM

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boot it up with the RAM out and see what the BIOS says

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:09 AM

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Ok

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All 4 sticks?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:09 AM

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no just 2

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:09 AM

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Ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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wont boot without something....

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https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-8gb-240-pin-ddr3-sdram/p/N82E16820231314?Item=N82E16820231314

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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I made a mistake. Apparently it's 4x2

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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btw you can easily get DDR3 still

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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So it's 8gb ddr3. My bad

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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well that would do it lol

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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Lol. I have been working on this thing for a few hours..

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:10 AM

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no worries

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i once bought RAM to upgrade a system, and when i went to install it turned out to be the wrong RAM

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:11 AM

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Dang

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Well my ram is corsair xms3

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:11 AM

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i mean i used it in another system, so i didnt waste the money

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but still i had to buy more ram to upgrade the system i wanted to upgrade

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having 96GB of RAM is cool though

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:12 AM

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Lol

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So I need to find at least 16 or so?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:12 AM

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no

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as long as you arent running out its fine

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i just wanted to mention it incase you actually had a hardware issue

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:13 AM

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Ah ok

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So how can I fix the gpu being disabled?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:13 AM

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if you can find another 8GB super cheap i would pop it in

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but the system is too old to really be worth investing money in

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i would like to see every step of you adding the slot

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:14 AM

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Okay

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:14 AM

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i found a few cases of this happening

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:14 AM

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Just waiting for it to boot up

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:14 AM

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but you arent going to like it

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:14 AM

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oh dear

#

#

SO... DID I DO IT WRONG?

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oops cap lock was on. sorry

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:19 AM

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yes

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:20 AM

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dang it

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:20 AM

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well

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i like to set the slot options when i make it

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:20 AM

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can you show?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:20 AM

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it should work like you did it

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so when you add the folding slot

#

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here

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click Add

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:21 AM

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ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:22 AM

#

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:23 AM

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ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:23 AM

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add these 2

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save the slot and reboot

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if that still doesnt work then we'll have too get a tad more drastic

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:24 AM

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didnt work

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:24 AM

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ok

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so the other times ive seen this happen were on Linux

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

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wait

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

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but it was always the same

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

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theres a new value

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

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ohh?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:25 AM

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one sec

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name: paused. Value: True.

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:26 AM

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try to fold on the slot then?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:26 AM

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i changed it to false and saved then reboot. it changed back to true

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:27 AM

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click the big fold button

#

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that should force every slot to start

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:28 AM

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no change

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:28 AM

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ok so back to what i was saying

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:28 AM

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ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:29 AM

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when this happens on Linux its always the same problem, either Folding at home isnt installed properly or the drivers arent installed properly

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:29 AM

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Hmm

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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my recommendation at this point is to fully uninstall Folding at Home, DDU your Graphics driver, and reinstall your Driver and Folding from scratch

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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well Windows 10 installed the drivers correctly

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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no

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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Ugh. that far?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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thats not good enough

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also i told you that you werent going to like it lol

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:30 AM

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lol

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Finishing the WU now..

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since it'll be wasted if I uninstall

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:31 AM

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as a matter of fact, i predownload the offical drivers, unplug my PC from the internet, THEN DDU and reinstall the drivers

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:31 AM

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Oh okay

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lemme find the drivers

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:31 AM

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i HAVE had issues using DDU and when the PC reboots Windows immediately tries to download new drivers

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i had to DDU again....

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ohh and i assume windows is fully up to date?

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what version are you on?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:32 AM

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Yeah

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Windows 10.

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:33 AM

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version

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errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:33 AM

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where?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:34 AM

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search for About

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errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:34 AM

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20H2

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:35 AM

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woa

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no

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get that up to date

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:35 AM

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ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:35 AM

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thats over a year old

#

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i was going to say you should be on 21H1 MINIMUM

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:36 AM

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its looking for updates

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downloading now

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ok.

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ddu..

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got them

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:39 AM

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let windows update before you try the whole DDU thing

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:39 AM

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yeah need to restart

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:39 AM

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it will probably take several steps of checking and rebooting

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:39 AM

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brb

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I didn't know I was running a older version

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:40 AM

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well you did say its been a while since you used the PC

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it probably would have caught up eventually

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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Well it was windows 7. I had to rebuild the pc

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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we're just trying to force the issue a bit

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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And thankfully the 10 works with the 7 key

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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yep

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my personal PC was Windows 7

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actually it was Upgraded directly from 7

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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Ok. So run ddu now?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:41 AM

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which... broke some things

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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Or uninstall f@h?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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what win10 version are you on now?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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The latest

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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21H2?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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21H2 yep

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:42 AM

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sweet

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uninstall Folding at home

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unplug your pc from the internet

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reboot in safe mode

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DDU

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install the latest AMD drivers

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:43 AM

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Hmm how do I uninstall f@h?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:43 AM

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reboot again

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:43 AM

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It's missing the uninstaller

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:43 AM

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errant belfry Hmm how do I uninstall f@h?

add remove programs?

#

what?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:43 AM

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Checking

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Ah found it

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:44 AM

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that sounds like Folding at home isnt installed properly....

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:44 AM

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All gone now

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Disconnected from wifi

#

Unplugged the wifi adapter lol

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Safe mode...

#

Where Is that...

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:46 AM

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yea its a pain on 10

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:47 AM

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There we go. Found it lol

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:47 AM

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Press Windows logo key + X on the keyboard.
Hold the Shift key while clicking Restart from Shut down or sign out menu.
Select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings >Restart.
After the PC restarts, a list of options will be shown. Select 4 or F4 or Fn+F4 (following the on-screen instructions) to start the PC in Safe Mode. If using the Internet, select 5 or F5 or Fn+F5 for Safe Mode with Networking.

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:47 AM

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Ok

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In safe mode now

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Clean and ?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:49 AM

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the recommended one

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:49 AM

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Ok

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:49 AM

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Jays 2 cents uses clean and nothing

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then manually shuts down

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though i think thats mainly when he swaps GPU's

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Yeah

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Restarting now

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15.7 is the latest driver

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That's what I downloaded

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:51 AM

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Folding at homes site says 15.1 is the minumum, so you're good there

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BTW this is my last idea, if this doesnt work i throw in the towel

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:52 AM

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Lol

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There's a beta driver but it's risky

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:53 AM

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dont go beta

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:53 AM

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Yeah. Too risky

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Installing the driver now

#

Rebooting now

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Now what?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

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so drivers are installed?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

#

Yep

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

#

and you rebooted

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

#

Yup

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:55 AM

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hook back up to the internet

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double check windows is up to date

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and reinstall Folding at home

#

might want to reboot after the install just in case

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:56 AM

#

Checking for updates now

#

What the

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15.201.1151.1008 is the driver version

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 11:59 AM

#

shrugs

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 11:59 AM

#

Ok

#

still disabled

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:03 PM

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other than reinstall windows thats all i got

#

you did reboot after the folding at home install right?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:03 PM

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rebooting now

#

This is a fresh install of 10

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:05 PM

#

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/

AMD GPU Folding@Home PPD Rank Database

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:05 PM

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Yeah still disabled. I think it's fine for now

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:05 PM

#

curiously the 5700 series isnt on this list

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:05 PM

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That's probably why

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:06 PM

#

i see the 5600 and 5800 series

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:06 PM

#

I'll look for a newer card and go from there

#

Wait what?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:06 PM

#

#

the PPD is horrible though

#

a raspberry Pi could probably do more

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:07 PM

#

I deleted the gpu. It's now running on all 4 cores

#

I'll look for a newer card. I have a roof 580 8gb but I'm gaming on that one

#

Rx

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:08 PM

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heres a tip

#

old mining cards actually make decent Folding cards

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:09 PM

#

Oh?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:09 PM

#

i bought a lot of 4 P106-90's for 100$ during the folding sprint of 2019

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each one will do like 250k PPD

#

and only pulls 60-75 watts

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:10 PM

#

For real?

#

So it'll be like a upgrade for this system?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:10 PM

#

P106-90 is roughly the same as a 1050 Ti

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:11 PM

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I have a 750 non ti but I'm saving that one

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:11 PM

#

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:12 PM

#

Looking into a 1050 ti now

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:12 PM

#

they are about 150-$200 used

#

they were $100-150 before covid...

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:13 PM

#

Canadian?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:13 PM

#

USD

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:13 PM

#

Damn

#

Canadian dollar is high.

#

Guess I'll be folding on the cpu for a while until I get some money

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:14 PM

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for reference

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https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/amd/folding_profile/cypress_radeon_hd_58006800

Radeon HD 5800/6800 Folding@Home PPD Performance

F@H Radeon HD 5800/6800 performance as of 1/15/2022. Averages across all projects PPD:35,843 - Work Units Per Day:0.49, performance history and more.

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HD 5800 is around 35k PPD

#

dont know what the power draw is

#

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/brands/nvidia/folding_profile/gp107_geforce_gtx_1050_ti_2138

GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Folding@Home PPD Performance

F@H GeForce GTX 1050 Ti performance as of 1/15/2022. Averages across all projects PPD:355,786 - Work Units Per Day:3.40, performance history and more.

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1050 Ti is 355k

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:15 PM

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Wow that's a big difference

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:16 PM

#

P106-90 is 277k

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:16 PM

#

I found a 1050ti near me. Asking how much for it

#

It's a msi

#

How good is a 7950?

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:17 PM

#

HD 7950?

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:18 PM

#

Yup

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:18 PM

#

260k

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:18 PM

#

So still up there

#

It's 100 bucks for this card

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:18 PM

#

i mean its better than what you have

#

my card does around 2.5mil...

#

a threadripper CPU will do quite a bit

#

and i think you can get the first get stuff cheap used

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

Hmm

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:20 PM

#

ok its less than i thought

#

a 1950x is 128k ppd

#

2950x is 252k

#

so the same as that 7950

#

those are still pricy though

#

on Ebay only the first get stuff is cheap

#

well i say cheap

#

the 1950x is 350-450 USD

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Ah ok

#

I best get to bed. Good night

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

the 1920x is like 100

#

night, sorry we couldnt get you fixed up

errant belfry Jan 16, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

It's fine . We didn't know my card wasn't supported

#

But my cpu is. 965be

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 12:24 PM

#

well the folding website says the 5700 is the minimum

#

but its possible that info is out of date

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 9:37 PM

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decided to take up folding at home again bc otherwise my pc is just going to waste, anyway about the downloads I need, do I need all three linux packages?

humble rover Jan 16, 2022, 9:39 PM

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desert lynx decided to take up folding at home again bc otherwise my pc is just going to was...

You can run without the viewer, but you must install the client and control packages

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 9:39 PM

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thx

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 9:50 PM

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humble rover You can run without the viewer, but you must install the client and control pack...

do U use folding on linux urself?

humble rover Jan 16, 2022, 9:51 PM

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I dual boot Linux so it's not always on

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 9:53 PM

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ok well do yk anything about getting python-gtk2 and python-gnome2 bc they seem to be defunct

hushed bobcat Jan 16, 2022, 9:54 PM

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The instructions on the website should work right?

jaunty solstice Jan 16, 2022, 9:54 PM

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what is boinc

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 10:01 PM

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hushed bobcat The instructions on the website should work right?

I didnt really see any instructions just downloads

humble rover Jan 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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What distro of Linux are you on

humble rover Jan 16, 2022, 10:12 PM

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jaunty solstice what is boinc

https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/BOINC-Berkeley-Open-Infrastructure-for-Network-Computing

WhatIs.com

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) ...

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing)? This definition explains what the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure is and how it facilitates volunteer computing efforts.

jaunty solstice Jan 16, 2022, 10:13 PM

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oh i see

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ok thanks

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 10:14 PM

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humble rover What distro of Linux are you on

ubuntu 21.10

humble rover Jan 16, 2022, 10:15 PM

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Ah F@h is hit or miss with 21 but if you can install python2 it might still work

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 10:16 PM

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k

desert lynx Jan 16, 2022, 10:17 PM

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humble rover Ah F@h is hit or miss with 21 but if you can install python2 it might still work

prolly dont have those gnome elements of python either bc Im really on kubuntu

fickle needle Jan 17, 2022, 4:34 AM

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aka, why I still run F@H on 18.04 LTS

humble rover Jan 19, 2022, 2:58 PM

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ayooo space heaters

humble rover Jan 20, 2022, 1:36 PM

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https://twitter.com/foldingathome/status/1483860491541884932

Folding@home (@foldingathome)

🚨NEW OMICRON SIMULATIONS🚨
Omicron isn’t the first scary #SARSCoV2 variant, and it probably won’t be the last. We’re starting new simulations of the #demogorgon Spike to understand why omicron is so good at evading immunity, and aim to automate simulations of future variants. https://t.co/fBEZQY69VR

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https://twitter.com/foldingathome/status/1483860612908302336

Folding@home (@foldingathome)

The spike protein is big so if you want to contribute your GPU to these simulations (project 17257), make sure:

Your GPU has more than 4GB of Memory
You have a GPU newer than an NVIDIA Species-4 (~GTX 660) or AMD Species-5 (~R9200/Radeon 7900)!

errant belfry Jan 20, 2022, 3:12 PM

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So I went ahead and swapped out my Radeon 5770 for my gtx 750 2gb non ti and got it to fire up after ddu and all that jazz.

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I'm now folding on cpu and gpu.

sudden pike Jan 21, 2022, 1:49 AM

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ok

rich depot Jan 27, 2022, 4:06 PM

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errant belfry I'm now folding on cpu and gpu.

dont crack it

rugged elk Jan 28, 2022, 3:02 AM

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hushed bobcat

userbenchmark KEKW

main grove Jan 28, 2022, 3:56 PM

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random question what is Folding and boinc

placid goblet Jan 28, 2022, 6:49 PM

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Folding@Home is a way for you to donate CPU and GPU power to researchers

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BOINC is the same thing but they don't use the same servers and aren't run by the same companies/researchers etc.

humble rover Jan 28, 2022, 7:16 PM

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main grove random question what is Folding and boinc

https://foldingathome.org/about-2/?lng=en
https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/BOINC-Berkeley-Open-Infrastructure-for-Network-Computing

Folding@home

Folding@Home

About - Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases.…

WhatIs.com

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing) ...

What is BOINC (Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing)? This definition explains what the BOINC distributed computing infrastructure is and how it facilitates volunteer computing efforts.

main grove Jan 29, 2022, 11:13 AM

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humble rover https://foldingathome.org/about-2/?lng=en https://whatis.techtarget.com/definiti...

thank you

humble rover Feb 8, 2022, 4:55 PM

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https://worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/article.s?articleId=756

Preliminary results are exciting

As you know from previous updates, the data volunteers have provided the OPN1 team with have led to the purchase and testing of just over 350 molecules against 3 distinct protein targets. And the results they're getting from collaborating labs have been fantastic, the team has about half a dozen tentatively active compounds against each target they've pursued.

Once validated, these tentative positive results decrease the OPN1 team demand for computational resources (at least in the short term) but increase the wet lab work. Again, these results have to be validated, and additional characterization is required. However, as this followup work is completed the cycle will wrap back around: the design of future simulations will be optimized by leveraging the information gathered so far to hone in on what works and expand the set of active molecules.

OpenPandemics - COVID-19: February update

Preliminary validation of WCG results are very promising.

lone wolf Feb 8, 2022, 6:11 PM

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humble rover ayooo space heaters

That's some pricey electricity

finite jolt Feb 22, 2022, 9:53 PM

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<@&750150305383186585>

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its everywhere

marble tide Feb 23, 2022, 7:29 PM

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finite jolt <@&750150305383186585>

what was it

humble rover Feb 23, 2022, 7:31 PM

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marble tide what was it

Something about testing a game they made idk

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Nice to see they still remember FAH exists

finite jolt Feb 23, 2022, 7:35 PM

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marble tide what was it

Spam link

sage lintel Feb 24, 2022, 2:07 AM

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is it normal for it to say "Connecting to your Folding@home client" and spike to 100% cpu usage

hushed bobcat Feb 24, 2022, 5:55 AM

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this really makes me want to get one of those GPU server chassis and fill it with older cards of that type

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it seemed really efficient for folding

placid goblet Feb 24, 2022, 6:10 AM

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The CMP cards?

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That seems smart tbh

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Get a bunch of 30/40HX cards or whatever their name is

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Toss 'em in some systems

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Fold ~~and quintuple your electricity bill~~

hushed bobcat Feb 24, 2022, 6:12 AM

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well my point is they seem to do alot of work compared to the power they draw

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i have done folding on the older mining cards

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like the p106-90

slim mortar Feb 24, 2022, 6:18 AM

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Should I only install the FAH Client for Ubuntu Server?

hushed bobcat Feb 24, 2022, 6:19 AM

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its been too long

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but i feel you need 1 more thing?

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actually do you need the client to remote access it?

slim mortar Feb 24, 2022, 6:28 AM

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Yeah

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Wait

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No

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Told me to go to the config file

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@hushed bobcat I'm assuming I need fahcontrol?

hushed bobcat Feb 24, 2022, 6:37 AM

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yea i think thats the only one you need?

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its been 2.5 years since i messed with FAH on ubuntu

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and that was desktop not server

slim mortar Feb 24, 2022, 6:45 AM

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I'm not gonna bother since there is barely any information on this that I could find

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I tried removing it but the client is still running

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Never mind I just killed the processes

hushed bobcat Feb 24, 2022, 7:08 AM

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i remember starting and stopping it was a bit of a pain

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honestly windows just seems better for folding

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sure it reboots by itself every week or 2

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but because folding saves progress it just picks up where it left off

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as long as you have it set to login automatically and start folding at home

warm junco Feb 24, 2022, 7:39 PM

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I am so lost, how does it say 81989 points per a day but I havent seen my points go up even once?

humble rover Feb 24, 2022, 7:42 PM

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warm junco I am so lost, how does it say 81989 points per a day but I havent seen my points...

PPD is an estimate of your return if you crunched units for 24h, your profile shows you have just started so it won't immediately reflect the full total

warm junco Feb 24, 2022, 7:43 PM

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humble rover PPD is an estimate of your return if you crunched units for 24h, your profile sh...

Ahhh got it, thank you! I was getting concerned nothing was being counted

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oh damn the dark mode extension even tells you when you're eligible for a badge? That is awesome!

sage lintel Feb 24, 2022, 11:40 PM

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i cannot get the web control to work

warm junco Feb 24, 2022, 11:53 PM

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sage lintel i cannot get the web control to work

If you have a adblocker or a privacy extension white list it

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I had the same issue

sage lintel Feb 24, 2022, 11:54 PM

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I don't think it's that

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Because I can't get to it on my phone either

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That might be because my phone isn't a whitelisted ip though

warm junco Feb 25, 2022, 1:36 PM

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I need some help, its being a pain, how do I switch it from my CPU to my GPU?

humble rover Feb 25, 2022, 3:39 PM

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Switch what? Work unts? You would have to add/remove slots in advanced client view

zinc rivet Feb 25, 2022, 11:13 PM

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warm junco I need some help, its being a pain, how do I switch it from my CPU to my GPU?

A) for what? B) wdym

warm junco Feb 25, 2022, 11:25 PM

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zinc rivet A) for what? B) wdym

For folding, its using my CPU but I would rather want it to run on my GPU instead

placid goblet Feb 25, 2022, 11:28 PM

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In Windows search type FAHControl

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Something like this should pop up

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Click Configure and then Slots

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Select the slot that says cpu and click remove

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Then click add and select GPU

warm junco Feb 26, 2022, 1:11 AM

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got it, thank you!

tame saddle Feb 27, 2022, 10:29 AM

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Nice video about the A100
https://youtu.be/zBAxiQi2nPc
Need Team LTT to join this Project: https://training.lczero.org its about Machine Learnin for chess, basicly a more advanced alpha zero.😄

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hushed bobcat Feb 27, 2022, 11:19 AM

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That class if GPU is pretty expensive

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Even the pascal ones really aren't cheaper than regular graphics cards

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Atleast from me little bit of research

tame saddle Feb 27, 2022, 6:17 PM

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I was also thinking Linus can use this as a Benchmark for at least nvidia cards in the moment, to see their ML performance.

molten adder Feb 28, 2022, 10:09 AM

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What is folding?

humble rover Feb 28, 2022, 1:23 PM

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molten adder What is folding?

https://foldingathome.org/about-2/?lng=en

Folding@home

Folding@Home

About - Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases.…

maiden flower Mar 3, 2022, 3:38 AM

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i got a boinc docker container and its just not getting jobs anymore? what could this be?

humble rover Mar 3, 2022, 3:39 AM

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Check the projects you're subscribed to, to see if they currently have jobs available

finite jolt Mar 4, 2022, 1:20 PM

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tame saddle Nice video about the A100 https://youtu.be/zBAxiQi2nPc Need Team LTT to join thi...

Its already obsolete with amds new data center gpus

tame saddle Mar 4, 2022, 6:40 PM

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How does the amd's data center gpu compare vs the nvidia hopper?

placid goblet Mar 4, 2022, 10:11 PM

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Hopper isn't out yet afaik so I have no idea