#folding-and-boinc
hushed bobcat
the VRM's on that card laugh when i fold at 80%
hang on i have a pic of it in my system
he a beefy boy
triple slot
it's been good to me
i can usually get 144 fps at 1440p in just about any game
not Flight simulator though
thats like 50 fps
i think 3090 at 1440p is around 65 fps
its CPU bound
i think they said the GPU was around 80% usage
we need faster processors
the current rumors are its a 15-25% IPC uplift
so that
if a ryzen 5 3600 is 100k ppd then whatever the thread equivalent is (r5 5600?) will be 115-125k ppd
my p106-90's fold around 350k ppd
after the CUDA update
also
i wonder if the floating point improvements will have a bigger effect on folding?
isn't that what folding basically is? floating point calculations?
lapis gulch
my 3090 at 5120x1440p maxes out at around 60 fps on max settings except glass cockpit refresh rate
fierce steppe
@fierce steppe that is pretty insane for a 1080ti, is that at max power or was it taken down a little bit?
@unreal cradle that was at 80% power limit/65°C temp limit I think
timber grove
dam boi
proper fractal
oh hey @fierce steppe
fierce steppe
Just checked, 90% power limit 65°C temp limit, and it was stuck at temp limit (it's hawt here)
fickle needle
got dang GPU folding on Centos/Fedora is a chore
tired crow
A reminder to everyone who has entered the 2020 folding month event. If you have not checked your entry to the event please do so. At the moment we have about 10% of signups that have errors that need to be fixed. You can check the signup sheet here -
If you need a correction made to your signup it should be done here -
Thanks and good luck everyone.
tired crow
Yes and go claim folding badge 🙂
timber grove
how do you claim a folding badge?
tired crow
hushed bobcat
at the rate im going i may be able to get a platinum badge by the end of year
nice goal to shoot for anyway
stark bough
Whats your average PPD during rush?
gilded spruce
Glad I popped in here, I totally forgot to sign up for the folding month (just got my bronze badge the other day and should have a silver by the time the month is over)
Also, anyone else have any issues with F@H only intermittently actually y'know, folding? I find that a pause/un-pause usually fixes it, but still annoying to have it happen and see CPU WU's that have 12h+ ETAs with my 3700X (and consequently ramp the CPU fan up and down every 30-60s)
timber grove
the WU ETA will fix its self just give it time, and your cpu fan ramping up and down is due to the cpu temp@gilded spruce
gilded spruce
@timber grove , not exactly (re: ETA fixing itself). Without pausing/unpausing it it's not continuously folding
The fan is a useful indicator that it's not doing so however as it goes back and forth between idling and folding (despite "folding power" being set to full and to not only fold on idle)
Like, earlier I heard it ramping up and down every 30s or so, saw the CPU WU had a ~14h ETA, after pausing and un-pausing the fans stayed going full speed as it folded and the ETA dropped back down to under 2h where it should be
timber grove
does it do the same thing if you set the folding power to medium?
gilded spruce
Haven't tested that, though like I said it's an intermittent problem that only occasionally shows up on some WUs
It'd probably be easier to narrow it down if it did it every time, but alas
timber grove
put it on medium and see if that fixes it
gilded spruce
I'll leave it there and pop back in if it starts doing it again I guess (which I have a sneaking suspicion it will, sooner or later)
timber grove
ok sounds good
rancid frost
I haven't been able to fold for a while, alas.
Electric bills tightened up after I lost my job and went to commissions only.
next adder
continue folding in your heart
stark bough
if theres power and an internet connection and idle hardware theres a folder.
i might upgrade to VR for star wars squadrons.
so better hardware for folding.
hushed bobcat
win-win
hushed bobcat
970 in the Antec is running a little hot
going to re apply the thermal paste
maybe move it to the bottom slot to get more fresh air (currently its above a P106-90)
rich depot
@fickle parcel I think you are thinking of seti@home
rich depot
You said 'isn't Folding ended'
Now, regardless of the grammar I'm pretty so you were asking if the Folding@home project has ceased operations, to which I was telling you that it was SETI@home that ceased operations, not folding
proper fractal
Another reminder to sign up for folding month if you haven't already. sign ups close on the 9th, and event starts on the 12th
humble rover
Its only for a week nbd
stark bough
School started and people are probably turning off their PC
That or they need power for AC bills
lapis gulch
yea winter is making 100% power targets viable for me now 😆
stark bough
I dont need 3080
timber grove
well that depends
lapis gulch
o damn
stark bough
Dammit. ive been planning on undervolting since feb but never got around to it.
79% power draw
lapis gulch
mmm
lapis gulch
ill try it out after my current wus are done
stark bough
ive been just pushing down power target but not undervolting.
lapis gulch
thats what i did with my 2080 super
but now, it seems that power scales a lil too linearly with boosting for me to bother
timber grove
so is this the 3080 vs 2080?
stark bough
i know i get annoying coil whine at 100% PT
lapis gulch
i see
lapis gulch
id imagine the 3090 should undervolt just as nicely
safe prairie
Is the GPU WUs optimised or something? i am getting ~50k more PPD
Sorry, 500k more ppd
oh, cuda support
old nest
My dream pc is 2500USD
hushed bobcat
I could easily spend $750 just on water-cooling
wild pollen
my dream pc has a thread ripper and 2080 ti
tender maple
I cant even upgrade a computer from a 68k to a 68030
neat bear
What is folding snd boinx
timber grove
@neat bear https://foldingathome.org/
tired crow
At the moment we have a very close competition going on for the number of incorrect forum names and incorrect folding names for folding month 2020. Currently we have 15 people that need to have the forum name corrected and 15 people that need to have the folding name corrected and 1 person that needs both of them corrected. That's 31 people that will be out of the event before it even starts, so once again if you have not checked your event entry please do so now.
Thank you good luck in the event.
proper fractal
Wanna link the signup sheet and correction thread, mark?
tired crow
OK
humble rover
tired crow
Thanks
humble rover
Gotchu
rich turtle
tired crow
proper fractal
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1246433-ltt-official-folding-month-2020-corrections/
@rich turtle thanks den
tired crow
we'll get it right between us all
stark bough
Checks Calendar
month filled up with basically all folding
Guess I wont play games then
brave warren
timber grove
@brave warren no you do not earn money for folding but you can possibly win prizes for folding during LTT folding month. as long as you are signed up that is
proper fractal
can i earn money by flding??
@brave warren not for the ltt team. There's some prizes for folding month (steam keys, amazon money, newegg iirc) but no real money. the curecoin team tho does offer a sort of cryptocurrency
tired crow
stark bough
EVGA bucks is a thing but at least on my setup It will cost more in electricity than what I would generate, and credits exclusive to their store
tired crow
I keep thinking of doing that. You only need to do 300000 points to get the 10 evga bucks so you fold for that it takes like 5 or 6 days then switch back to your normal team.
humble rover
- cries in cdn address *
stark bough
Set a reminder on your personal calendar to redeem points
Or at least bank them
By my calc back in 2017 I think, it would take 7 days worth of electricity to generate 5, and another 7 to get the other half
tired crow
At the moment I'm doing around 7M PPD so I can knock out 30000000 points in 5 days
I'm looking at it as $100 off a GPU upgrade every 12 months.
wintry anvil
How efficient would it be to fold with a Amd threadripper 3990X I'm pretty sure that is the one with 64 cores (obviously i don't have that but i was just curious)
proper fractal
Probably worse than a gpu
Also you only have a few hours to sign up for folding month
rich depot
^^
proper fractal
I'm glad I'm pleasing spectrum
tired crow
Your doing my job for me too 🙂
humble rover
@stuck bramble Add the slot in the advanced client?
stuck bramble
Lemme check
Got it working 😄
This will produce a couple points i think https://bluecrazii.nl/images/WtAcfTFgGm.png
humble rover
Also worth noting task manager doesn't correctly report GPU usage @stuck bramble
timber grove
lol
stuck bramble
Now the webcontrol is broken ugh oh well i dont really need it
humble rover
Only if you want to report data to LAR's database
stuck bramble
It does this https://bluecrazii.nl/images/X7DGFRrghP.png
It just keeps refreshing out of it self XD
Also just in time joined the compo
XD
pc is pulling 800 watt with cpu and 2 gpu's 😂
So happy it runs of cuda now
Cause now pc doest slow that much down
shut halo
bad WU's lately. So smol packages and little points. My PPD went from 2,2M to around 1,5M
carmine sphinx
How old of a cpu can you use to actually complete a WU within an alotted time? I had an old Anthlon 64 x2 5000+ going and the eta was over the allotted time. I had let it go for a full day on the full setting so the timer would have time to compute the actual eta.
hushed bobcat
I think my i5-2500k is pretty close to a day
WU's have various difficulties as well
carmine sphinx
It was also using half the cpu when set on full why was that?
should it not have used the full thing?
timber grove
i think the program has a hard time setting things up for large core count cpus. but you can add in more cpu slots to fix that problem
carmine sphinx
well it was using both cores but not at full percentage like on my modern 3700x
timber grove
8/16 right
carmine sphinx
yes but on the anthlon its only 2 cores
timber grove
so youll need to configure the program to use however many threads the cpu has
carmine sphinx
okay
shut halo
I have set it use up to 14 threads on my 3800X so I have couple threads for gpu and windows stuff
timber grove
i have a 2700x and i have it configured the same way as you kaaos but f@h uses everything
carmine sphinx
well on the older machines I don't use them and I just wanted them to crank out numbers
timber grove
but i do run a lot of stuff in the background
carmine sphinx
like my q9650 and e8400
hushed bobcat
continuing my prep for folding month
replaced the Thermal paste on my GTX 970
10C cooler
with the fans turning 25% slower
stark bough
Yeah I set my voltages and ordered fans
Need to figure out ~~ventilation ~~ Heat distribution
rich depot
the pihole project supports F@H
tired crow
Attention everyone who signed up for 2020 folding month. You only have 2 days left to make sure your entry is correct so if you have not done so please check the signup sheet and make sure there is nothing that needs correcting.
high willow
How old of a cpu can you use to actually complete a WU within an alotted time? I had an old Anthlon 64 x2 5000+ going and the eta was over the allotted time. I had let it go for a full day on the full setting so the timer would have time to compute the actual eta.
@carmine sphinx I had a core 2 duo e6600 going a while back and it was able to complete the WUs within the allotted time, so idk why yours couldn't
It was also using half the cpu when set on full why was that?
is your gpu folding too since apparently it takes up a cpu core for some reason, had this same problem on mine until I disabled the gpu slot
stark bough
Well. time to start spinning up my machines.
hushed bobcat
i'm going to spin everything up the 11th
lapis gulch
when does it start fr again
humble rover
oct 12 midnight bst I think
lapis gulch
ima crank my power limits when it starts
hushed bobcat
my reason is the new week for the Extreme OC points counting starts the 11th
hoping for 4 mil PPD
humble rover
Folding month uses a separate point aggregate
lapis gulch
wait wat
humble rover
Ya its not based off EOC so the timing for points is slightly offset
hushed bobcat
i just want to beat my personal best
humble rover
Its just the update interval
tired crow
For folding month we use a script that pulls the points data form F@H servers at midnight each day.
lapis gulch
is it a concern if the form still says eligible for badge but i have it now?
tired crow
No that's not a problem.
It just a note to let you know you can get a badge if you want one. A lot of people don't know how the badge system works.
lapis gulch
ic thx
tired crow
I can take the note off if youwant me to.
stark bough
Damn I should buy fans but prime day is coming up and I want to keep funds free
brittle coral
man im about to break 1 billion points and i go to look and well you just gotta see the number (contributed to LTT) and how perfect it is xD
could not have checked at a better time 
had to take a folding rig down but it was one of my slower ones at least xD
hushed bobcat
i'm only at 347 million
brittle coral
@hushed bobcat yea i mean i put in a ton of effort to get here plus convincing my step-dad to keep giving me as much free power as he is. i needed some $ to put into other things though so i'm selling some of the parts and keeping others as spare, plus the RAM from one rig is going into the other cause it's also a server now and i need more lol
we just got 1g fiber last week at my house and we were consistently unhappy with the CPU performance of affordable VPS services, so we're rehosting the insurgency server we use at my house on a 3800x instead xD
it was running on a haswell based data center CPU before that with only 6gb of ram dedicated
still gonna feed 2 GPU folding clients but no more CPU folding lol
also might have to up that to 3 GPU folding clients just because
stark bough
rich depot
Attention everyone who signed up for 2020 folding month. You only have 2 days left to make sure your entry is correct so if you have not done so please check the signup sheet and make sure there is nothing that needs correcting.
stark bough
Anyone have any suggestions on a good undervolt on this card? currently stable
just glancing at this one now
sterile kiln
speaking of folding and boinc,
rich depot
don't YA DARE
sterile kiln
lttstore.com has clothes, waterbottles, and even underwear
fierce steppe
Dammit Nvidia. Shouldn't you be making GPUs!
lapis gulch
lul
snow escarp
stark bough
are we rising? Just spun up a smaller machine
shit PPD, normally a DL box/plex server, but at least its putting out something
stark bough
I dont know if its my cooler, setup, or somethign else.
But I'm getting 70-82C on my 3700X wraith prism with just 2 cores running
stark bough
stark bough
Woof. 57%
versed harbor
wait whats a boinc?
humble rover
Distributed computing on the CPU side primarily
versed harbor
damn, for some reason so far i read that as bionic 🤣
humble rover
Bionicles
carmine sphinx
@high willow the anthlon64 x2 5000's gpu in that thing is so old that it does not use it. The cpu use is about 50% on each core.
past thistle
I'm kind of new to computers, can someone explain what folding is to me please?
humble rover
stark bough
7 year old me installing SETi@home on schools computers dreaming that I would be the one credited at finding aliens
teal patio
heh
stark bough
Bah. having a pain in the ass time getting all my clients sync'ed to advanced client.
my i3-8100 does a reasonable amount, but my celeron of the same gen barely puts in 4 digit ppd for i think 16 watts
might just drop it for ppd.
New Nvidia drivers really raising the stakes arent they
50% across the board for pascal iirc.
At this point, I'm wondering if its even worth looking at used AMD cards for this purpose given the new boost
stark bough
hopefully. But Nvidia has the funds and got a big visibility boost during the covid rush
tired crow
Just so you all know the starting stats import has been completed successfully and folding month 2020 is now underway. So if you can crank up your output now is the time.
stark bough
I'm wavering on recruting my 4790 into the fold.
would require a reinstall of the client -.-
Oh good. The configs were still good. Will try to run as long as temps allow:d
is LAr not collecting data on CPU?
i know it could be variable based on core assignment
lapis gulch
so I got a spare 2080 super around, whats the cheapest way to get it up and running? I got parts for another build minus ram and cpu
stark bough
prebuilt office computer with a PSU with enough wattage to run it 😄
stark bough
Should I expect a 2-3x improvement with IPC between a i7-4790 running 2 core and a i3-8100 running 2 core as well? Gap of 4 gens seem to suggest it
Might have to adjust power profiles but I’m getting.
3433 PPD on G4900 (2 Core @ 3.08 Ghz w/ 8.57 W)
31529 PPD est on i3-8100 (4 Corr @ 3.58 GHz 38.68W Package)
9925 PPD est 4790 (2 Physical core @ 3.61 39.94W Draw)
Might have to give it all cores
Might just due to power profiles and 2 cores being disabled but 4790 getting its but kicked.
i3 in an office computer witch custom downblower shroud vs 4790 in a full desktop with a NH-U14S strapped to it
oof. At this point does it seem like even the Celeron gives more PPD/W then the i7-4790?
Data has a lot of holes and variables so far
stark bough
Single core on my 3700x provided est 9837 PPD
Think at this point I’m committing 300-500 Wh right now to folding (Machines running different Tasks other than just folding) (150W of that on CPU only machines only contributing around 200-250k PPD) generating 1,376,665 ppd est.
Finally got around to doing the napkin math on how much CPU folding sucks. Twice the power. 1/5 of the points.
hushed bobcat
@stark bough I happen to have a 4790k
stark bough
How much power draw do you think you’re getting for that 2.5 mil?
Well shoot looks like I’m losing about 30k by suspending my 4790 from folding for a few days
stark bough
What’s Wattage draw on package?
hushed bobcat
thats FAH Core 07
stark bough
I forget is assigning CPU just for thread or cores?
stark bough
So assigning 6 CPU = 3 Core/3thread or will I sometimes get 4 core/ 2 HT or something weird?
hushed bobcat
if you assign 6 threads in the FAH client the system will balance the use of 6 threads
stark bough
Might do that then. 4790 is currently a “web browsing” computer and a part time NAS ever since I pulled the 1070 from it.
hushed bobcat
now if you're a bit weird like me you'll use a program like Process Lasso to force certain threads to be used
on that 4790k i have the last 5 threads assigned to FAHCore 08
first 3 are for the GPU slots
stark bough
Is the 4790k a daily driver for you or a dedicated folding rig?
stark bough
Huh, process lasso looks neat. Maybe sometime next year I can check it out to optimize for folding
stark bough
Every time I get a machine I find a use for it almost immediately
hushed bobcat
since we got bored of those games i moved it to a dedicated folding rig
stark bough
I’ve been meaning to collect some machines to just try new OS and software but there’s always something new to deploy
hushed bobcat
up to 34k PPD on the 4790
this is my main rig
6 threads on an 8700k at 3.6 GHz
stark bough
Still finding it crazy my 8100 can even keep pace with my former daily driver
Got a p106 in both?
hushed bobcat
i bought a lot of 4 p106's for $25 each about a month ago
stark bough
Oh right. I kept on putting that off. There still a supply?
hushed bobcat
stark bough
was it a batch buy for a group discount?
stark bough
what’s power draw per card?
hushed bobcat
exactly 75W
hushed bobcat
you cant adjust it
all you can do is set a power target in MSI afterburner
i think at 80% it pulls 62W?
stark bough
Did you go in and clean out the heatsinks/replace TP?
hushed bobcat
you see the CPU PPD in the previous pic?
i just used my air compressor to blow them out
they run 52-58C under full load
so i felt i didnt need to reapply paste
my GTX 970 in the 4790k rig DID need a thermal paste re-do
dropped temps 8-12C when i did that
with 25% less fan speed
stark bough
I should really look into putting together an 8th gen intel system once zen 3 comes out
stark bough
No wonder 8th gen prices keep dropping every zen iteration 
hushed bobcat
i actually de-lidded 2 8700k's
i cant rememer exactly
but i think it dropped core temps 15C
humble rover
Cheapo 5960Xs are tempting but I know Id never use it
hushed bobcat
stark bough
I know if I ever got a TR I’d try to excuse myself to get ECC
And then a PSU to match it
And then a Mobo
stark bough
Either way I’d probably spend a bit extra on every component just cause it’s TR when a compatible AM4 would do fine
hushed bobcat
problem with AM4 is lack of PCIE lanes
you could probably only run 2 GPU's without bottlenecking
maybe 3
stark bough
Honestly I don’t see myself shoving more than 2-3 cards in there
And the price creep of even thinking I’m putting in 4 cards means more money in the PSU
That 850-1000W PSU I linked looks tempting again.
hushed bobcat
well its more efficient to buy fewer more powerful cards
i wouldn't trust that mining GPU you linked
its way to cheap IMO
stark bough
Yeah.
hushed bobcat
i'd consider the Rosewill i linked to be mid grade
and it was double the price at 100W less output
stark bough
well half the fun is window shopping for “cheap deals”
stark bough
yeah, that’s where you need experience and research to draw that line
Hence why there’s so much hesitation to buy used.
If I had $500 to literally burn. I’d go ahead and try that project though
hushed bobcat
i sent you a link
carmine sphinx
Would a geforce 9 series card still be able to work without the eta going over the time allotted? I had one lying around and wondered if this thing can fold considering two of my other monolithic cards are unsupported by F@H.
hushed bobcat
you mean like a GTX 960?
stark bough
As long as you run it
carmine sphinx
no a 9500 gt
hushed bobcat
no
stark bough
most assigned tasks are optimized for the card used
hushed bobcat
it probably wouldn't even fold on something that old
stark bough
Not even an x
humble rover
Min req is fermi/kepler or newer
stark bough
Well 9500 > 960 
hushed bobcat
i'd say GTX 500 series is about as old as you'd ever want to go
hushed bobcat
...
i gave up folding on a Core 2 Quad
let alone a Pentium 4 lol
actually i stopped folding on an i5-2500k
humble rover
Shifted my phenom iis over to boinc when I stopped folding on them
humble rover
P4 is the min requirement as well
Whether or not projects will use older A6/A7 cores is a different story
stark bough
Yeah and technically you can fart your way out of orbit.
carmine sphinx
well I have gotten it to work on an old 2006 anthlon 64 x2 5000+ cpu to work but after one day the eta was well over the time that they gave that machine to complete the task.
stark bough
Next LTT:
Can we overclock a Pentium 4 so the job completes before its timeout?
hushed bobcat
knowing LTT they'd probably get one of those Pentium D's that turn motherboards black
carmine sphinx
that would be interesting
hushed bobcat
then watercool both sides of the board
stark bough
Then blow up another UPS
Then spend half the energy Bill trying to cool the dang thing
carmine sphinx
Well the p4 line went all the way to 2008 so technicaly you could fold without overclocking.
hushed bobcat
personally i think anything older than 2012 is a lost cause
stark bough
Find an older supported CPU and somehow find a job for it that time to complete surpasses its timeout
Then do every Optomization possible to get it to crawl past the finish line
carmine sphinx
Well my old Core 2 quad q9650 launched in 2008 and it can fold in reasonable times. More like from half a day to a day.
But I intend to use my 3700X and RTX 2070 to get most of my points. Though the only issue is that when both the GPU and CPU are hit with an actual load, my cpu temps skyrocket to 95 C and that is a no go in my opinion, I ordered a Noctua NH-U12A to see if that can make a difference in temps.
hushed bobcat
love Noctua Coolers
mount is especially good
you can also try turning off the turbo boost on your CPU
carmine sphinx
The amd wraith prism is a "okay" stock cooler but if you fold on it without the gpu it still gets up to 87 C.
hushed bobcat
or limiting the threads in the FAH client
carmine sphinx
Yes but I want the full power of turbo.
crimson sparrow
I tried playing with GPU power levels to keep temps in check, turns out, it does 90%+ of the work still at 60% power.
hushed bobcat
keep in mind the AMD Precision boost is supposed to OC until it hits a power or thermal target
so even with the noctua cooler you may hit near the same temps
carmine sphinx
I know it thermal throttles becuase the clock speeds go down after a few minutes in HWmonitor.
hushed bobcat
is it going below base clock?
humble rover
Wraith isnt great for long sustained loads (though its a win for older AMD boards that use the standard retention bracket)
carmine sphinx
not exactly but close to it, so I guess it does not thermal throttle it just keeps the boost from going overboard.
humble rover
Not sure if the 3700X has an eco mode like the 3900X, but its worth looking into
IF you're interested in running it 24/7 that is
hushed bobcat
IMO if you're running 24/7 full load i would turn off any boost
carmine sphinx
I only really wanted to run it possibly 12 hours a day to keep the bills down somewhat.
hushed bobcat
boost is really only meant for lighter loads (gaming) or short bursts
carmine sphinx
okay
stark bough
The amd wraith prism is a "okay" stock cooler but if you fold on it without the gpu it still gets up to 87 C.
@carmine sphinx
I did a paste swap on mine. Still have hysteresis problems on the CPU though with thebTUF
carmine sphinx
Well I intend to just replace the cooler.
hushed bobcat
that does sound bad lol....
i do support the decision to replace the stock cooler, especially with a Noctua
but im fairly certain its just going to Boost higher
so your temps will be similar
stark bough
It’s constantly ramping up and down driving me nuts under sustained
hushed bobcat
probably
stark bough
I’m considering turning off boost or SMT
hushed bobcat
i'd leave SMT on
stark bough
hushed bobcat
you would lose folding performance for no temp gain
because you're still loading every Physical core
stark bough
Was thinking I’d assign more cores to make up for it
Fair enough
Or I could just get off my bum and attempt an undervolt
hushed bobcat
have you tried to power target limit the CPU in windows?
also i've had good luck undervolting Ryzen, but its tedious
stark bough
Yeah. Be been waiting for the talked about utility for it
Since it’s my main computer I emphasize stability
stark bough
Also your teammates
hushed bobcat
only team game i play these days is WoW
but yea when one of the Main tanks goes down it's no good
basically a guaranteed wipe
tardy hawk
@stark bough what gpu is that
tired crow
Once a day
lapis gulch
are u GOTspectrum on the forums?
tired crow
No I'm me on the forums. GOTspectrum goes by Spectrum here
hushed bobcat
top 50 woo!
lapis gulch
lmao oof
fierce steppe
- Spotty. 2,028,917
Not bad for a 1080ti. Cuda go BRRRRRRRRRR
fierce steppe
What are you folding with?
fierce steppe
And you're only 16th?
Damn. Some serious folders this year 👀
lapis gulch
lmao yea
tbf I use my computer so
it aint folding 24/7
some of these people got dedicated folding rigs
hushed bobcat
my 5 rigs are pretty much folding 24/7
1 of those sees very light use
and 1 other i game on every now and then
actually a big patch is coming the 13th for World of Warcraft so im going to be gaming alot more on 1 of the rigs
the other 3 are pretty much dedicated folding rigs
stark bough
I got a feeling I'm going to drop in rank and heat wave is coming up.
Might need to drop out 120W of power in a few days
timber grove
im in not to shabby of a place at 87. tho im questioning where 100,000 point disappeared off to
fierce steppe
They don't use the same timezone as XOC
timber grove
ok
tired crow
The points data for 2020 folding month is collected each day at midnight BST
lapis gulch
is bst gmt?
tired crow
No 1 hour different. It's 8.23 here now
lapis gulch
wait europe practices the time change?
i thought it was only north america these days lmao
tired crow
Nope we do it too
rich depot
@lapis gulch That would be me, but Marknd59 is a massive help for the event this year too!
hushed bobcat
@lapis gulch do you want a breakdown of all 5 PC's?
place 150 😄
rich depot
@stuck bramble Nice
stuck bramble
Also noticed that place 112 doesnt have a name 
rich depot
Yep lol, didn't want to throw them out in case they drop me a message
tired crow
There is more than 1 person that didn't enter a forum name.
stuck bramble
Nice
proper fractal
Time time time?
junior pawn
time.
lapis gulch
@hushed bobcat meh just tell me a general idea of what u got, like gpus and cpu
hushed bobcat
@lapis gulch
CPUs 8700k, 4790k, R5-3600, two E5-2660's.
GPUs 1080 Ti, 970, two 660 Ti's, four P106-90's
PPD yesterday was 4.4 Mil
lapis gulch
o nice
pseudo abyss
There was much more people in the folding thing half a year ago
I think
I forgot to really fold much on Monday
humble rover
We are 1/4 the size according to spec
rich depot
boinc
shrewd dew
tired crow
Points data validation for day 2 of 2020 folding month has been completed. Results will be posted soon.
timber fossil
Ah, man I forget to turn mine back on
humble rover
My 8350 doped out of here with a >1d WU KEKW
rich turtle
I'm not a menace 😦
proper fractal
oh you
storm skiff
dose any one know will the 5G NR cell phones connect yo your y-fi ?
proper fractal
I dose not know if they will connect to y-fi
I would think they can connect to wifi tho
and we aren't the people to ask
A better place would be #public-chat or #networking
lapis gulch
for me its cold enough to get on port royal leaderboards at night
timber grove
its going to start snowing soon
humble rover
Did somebody say ice storm
timber grove
just some snow
proper fractal
Here we're going down to around 5 degrees
which is around 40 I think in farenheit
tired crow
Validation of points data for day 3 of 2020 folding month has been completed. Results will be posted soon.
vapid flame
What is this channel for
stark bough
@vapid flame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-uwljuMp7w
stark bough
from 160 to 124/
had to drop out my cleeron but probably nothing worth writing home about
shut halo
That's a sauna.
stuck bramble
this is as hot as it get for me now
@lapis gulch this but then in netherlands
rich depot
how is that hot it gets over 100 by me wtf
stark bough
thats night time temps
shut halo
the heck. YOu live in a volcano?
rich depot
bro my night time temps are like 90
carmine sphinx
This is why I don't live in the south west.
shut halo
bruh, temp goes down to around 5°c at night
rich depot
im in florida thats why its so damn hot during christmas all the time ittl be like 80 on christmas eve
carmine sphinx
In Michigan in the winter all I have to do is open some windows and that machine will cool down in 20 seconds.
jaunty citrus
eww opera
proper fractal
That's folding related?
zealous spindle
boinc lol
proper fractal
I'm all about the fold bout that fold, no boinc
stark bough
proper fractal
Nice
lapis gulch
Nice
rocky gazelle
What's needed to fold at home? Anything powerful? I have a q6600 machine kicking around that I would t mind bringing back to life.
proper fractal
You can use pretty much anything. As long as it can finish the project in the amount of time allotted, there's no problem. Tho you won't get high scores or anything. You'd probably get a couple hundred to a couple thousand points a day
For comparison my gpu (Vega 56) does about 600k to 1mil ppd
rocky gazelle
What do points do? I'm a complete noob at this. I don't know most of the jargon
proper fractal
Also it's better on a graphics card rather than a cpu
proper fractal
Points are used more in comparing you to others. So for the folding month happening right now, you need 500k points by the end of the event. If you're just interested in helping research, you don't need to worry about them
A gt710 is old iirc and was down the product stack I think. It might be supported, though I don't know
rocky gazelle
It was the second cheapest card at microcenter. Lol my old rig had a Gt210 in it bc I needed hdmi and didn't have it on board. It died when my bro tried to play fortnite. XD so I got a 710 in hope it wouldn't die. Haha
lapis gulch
so I have a WU stuck on send, and im trying to ping the work server since collection is 0.0.0.0 and its not responding
while all the other servers for the other wu respond just fine
timber grove
that will happen from time to time. im not sure on the fix for that tho
stark bough
I cant believe im still at 126
knock on wood.
think i hit the 50 WU count long ago for participation
4.20 I had 364 done for that month
4 thread 4790 vs 4 thread 3700x
tired crow
@lapis gulch what server do your logs say you are trying to upload to. Is it 140.163.4.200 by any chance ?
carmine sphinx
The collection server should not be 0.0.0.0 it should have an actual address unless that specific sever went down...
tired crow
That's why I asked what his log said
carmine sphinx
Okay
lapis gulch
yes it is actually
wheat lynx
i'll take rank 232 😂
dapper pilot
so ive been running fah on my laptop but i cant run it all the time so i want to be able to pause the work unit and resume it later however when i pause it and then close fah it deletes the work unit, is there anyway around this?
proper fractal
Download the advanced client
empty nova
hey guys i need your help im trying to open an app but its not starting i tried to uninstall it and reinstall it but it does not work
proper fractal
Is this folding or boinc related @empty nova
finite palm
humble rover
stark bough
Holy crap no wonder my 4790 was running at 60C.
Rear exhaust fan just died.
noctua fan being a trooper and basically keeping the thing from killing itself this entire time
high willow
F
stark bough
It would also explain why my PPD wasnt as good.
humble rover
The random cancer WUs are the end of me, got booped out of top50 KEKW
stark bough
well. Dropping my 4790 rig out of the race.
hushed bobcat
nearly all my CPU's are out of WU's right now
stark bough
Its overdue for a cleaning anyway
getting hot upstairs too.
I was really hoping october would be a cooler month.
oooff. think the fan bearings siezed.
timber grove
I may try to build a dedicated folding rig for next folding month
stuck bramble
Welp am at a lan atm soo tonight the folding will continue on full power
Atm only have laptop folding away
With around 560K points a day
😂
Main rig does 3 mil a day
wheat lynx
3mil? wow
My cpu just started idling again
wa wondering if this ia happenign to anyone else again
humble rover
One of my cpu slots idled briefly last night but its sorted itself out, not much we can do on our ends
Speak of the devil its idle again KEKW
hushed bobcat
I had 3 CPUs idle yesterday
hushed bobcat
actually all 3 are still idle
1 of them doesn't even appear to be trying to get a WU
humble rover
Mine unstuck after half an hour
hushed bobcat
on my 26 thread CPU it hasn't gotten a WU since 10-17-2020 16:19:32 UTC
so pretty much 24 hours
humble rover
3900x is idle again KEKW
hushed bobcat
i paused and restarted all 4 and 2 got WU's
silent juniper
haha nice
silent juniper
on my dualcore i3
proper fractal
Better than nothing
silent juniper
Keeping steady at 75% CPU usage purely for the folding
proper fractal
I remember on my quad core in my laptop I had it folding. I forgot it was folding and was wondering why it was so slow lol
pseudo abyss
Dam it I had stopped folding for half a day because I restarted my computer for something else and didnt realize
rich depot
@pseudo abyss F
lunar kelp
ill fold on my aws
silent juniper
Hey look it did do something
stark bough
@pseudo abyss what gpus?
huh. still holding 121 despite being on single pascal card.
if i can recruite a second card i could probably crack 100
timber grove
i got kicked out of the top 100
silent juniper
I just use one dual core i3 7100U
stark bough
im using a quad core i3-8100 no HT
stark bough
finally getting CPU units.
silent juniper
168.245.198.125 linus1.foldingathome.org WS 9.6.3 jake 0,00/hr 1 0 Yes Accept 0 0 17.57TiB 13 days 2020-10-20T14:40:29Z
why is it down lol
well, not assigning projects
tired crow
It's not down it's been up and running for 13 days. It's not assigning WU's it's accepting results. Some servers assign WU's and other accept result and some do both. At the moment Linus1 is set get results.
hushed bobcat
finally fixed my broken CPU slots
seems there was a stuck FAH process in the background, the WU for that slot wouldn't delete
I ended up closing FAH completely, force ending the task, and deleting the folder with the stuck WU
rich turtle
I added 1 more 5700 XT.
tired crow
you lie
stark bough
What’s default path for WU?
hushed bobcat
@stark bough C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\FAHClient\work
rich turtle
@tired crow No, I am currently standing.
tired crow
lol
proper fractal
Den is known to lie stand so he probably added 2 more
tired crow
lol
tired crow
@proper fractal I just checked F@H and they show him as still only having 1 AMD GPU but it looks like he add some more NVidia GPU's
I think he is going for a big points score today
tired crow
Well I will know soon 30 minutes before I start to validate todays points.
timber grove
its day 9 right? @tired crow
tired crow
removed I screwed up
timber grove
hmmmmm
the time makes sense but the link doesn't. the link is the same link as yesterday
tired crow
It's 1:30am here I'm 1/2 asleep
rich turtle
Man, the extra XT really did a number.
winter nest
Well i completely blanked and thought this started on the 22nd, jumped into the game last night and boy is this heating up the space. Hopefully it cools down here :). We must be doing a good job because it seems to take awhile to get CPU WUs now
humble rover
Its better than it was on monday, babysitter is recommended if you want to contribute to cpu folding
winter nest
thanks, looks like it may not be so necessary now, CPU is just secondary and at night anyway since I need it during the day to work 🙂
little wedge
Hi i am matthew i am 13 i am level fucker on Fortnite i fuckin hate it so
can i please be banned because i am doing a challange
first to get banned from 5 serveres wins!
stark bough
I was originally going to use my 8100 with Linux since I heard it offers more PPD for folding
Then my folks computer went out and they got my 8100
proper fractal
The person has been banned or kicked @timber grove
I think. They might have just left
sleek cloud
proper fractal
Someone accidentally did it
fickle needle
Mighta just won a Tesla K40 off of Ebay, the question is am I going to be burned at the stake if I just use it for folding XD
for comparison it's built on a Kepler GK110B chip, basically an OG Titan with moar RAM same series as like a 780
worldly sky
Define "burned at the stake"
timber grove
use it for whatever you wish to use it for
stuck bramble
🪜
rich depot
I don't know much about distrubuted computing projects but is it a done thing you can throw all your hardware at it i.e. CPU and GPU or do you have to pick a component to use or does the project you are working on determine that / work best with a CPU - presumably for integer work or GPU for floating point math?
humble rover
@rich depot There are hardware specific projects and you can specify what hardware you wish to donate to the cause. That's not to say in the future, FAH won't utilized mixed-hardware protocols (see: gromacs 2020/GRO_A8)
fickle needle
@rich depot FAH has specific CPU/GPU cores (0xa7 for CPU 0x22 for GPU) that handles the folding, and then it processes based on what slots you define
outside of FAH
BOINC for example, each project decides its own requirements, eg, will it run on CPU only donors, does it need a AMD GPU, Nvidia GPU, does it need Virtualbox installed? etc
FAH is tricky because it does not guarentee work
so if you have an old/unsupported GPU, it will take that slot and route it to a BS work server (usually a local address) and then loops with 'cannot connect to work server' for all eternity
rich depot
@humble rover @fickle needle Thanks guys - last time I tried anything like this it was Seti@home 20 years back
humble rover
@rich depot SETI@home has been sunsetted this year but theres still plenty of projects you can still contribute to if youre interested! Rosetta and WCG in particular have covid-specific contributions though the former is very ram hungry
rich depot
@humble rover ok I will give it a look I have 64GB on my home and work machine so RAM not usually an issue
fickle needle
@rich depot F@H is a great place to start, if you ever want to get more exotic, BOINC + https://scienceunited.org/ has treated me very well
humble rover
Yay spreadsheets
magic granite
Laughs in AMD K6-II
silent juniper
laughs in i3 7100U
10W TDP ftw
wary spindle
I have a 7200u in one of my laptops
bleak sparrow
I have a 10700t 😄
bleak sparrow
running a sff gaming pc in the h1
custom loop with 2080s
chose it for its low tdp
wary spindle
Fair enough
carmine sphinx
T9500 in my ancient laptop.
stark bough
well shit. fucked up.
pulled an all nighter to game, and of course i put on pause instead of on idle
fickle needle
poor thing
stark bough
Power Bill killing me though.
rich depot
@stark bough Just think of Den-fis power bill....
proper fractal
The 5700 is really doing a number on his bill
lapis gulch
hey at least with hardware we get something
timber grove
a paper weight
opal sage
pseudo abyss
Yeah, I will never reach top 100
now I am happy if I just stay in the top 150 🙂
Also happy if I just get the silver badge
I did not realize that LTT team had become number 3 yet
I dont think
Also, on team rank total I am down to 1579
I was much higher than that when the last folding thing was
stuck bramble
82.3Milion atm 😄
humble rover
I think we got to 3 overall during the covid sprint
At the time when we were top weekly producers
stark bough
The definition of gaming:
putting money into machines for a to trigger a dopamine response with a bunch of blinking lights and numbers.
The only difference is the hardware that does it
Going on a trip and I don’t trust my brother to manage my machines so looks like I’m going to power it down over the next few days
stuck bramble
Oof
silent juniper
Would a Zotac GT 610 512MB be a good one for folding?
29W according to PCPartPicker yay
final lantern
silent juniper
Also, once I finally have a non-Intel NUC, can I just throw it in and set it to only fold on that gpu? Will my pc even recognise a separate gpu?
exotic dust
evening, having just seen the video, im so behind the times. i take it this is still up and running.
timber grove
@silent juniper as long as folding@home supports the hardware you want to use you can use it
high willow
does it require OpenCL support
humble rock
Lots of 0's in there. 😦
high willow
yes
@timber grove must be why the rig I tried FAH out with a while ago (c2d 6600, geforce 405) never got a gpu wu
the geforce 405 doesn't support opencl for some reason even though older cards did
quite strange, it's also tesla even though the other 400s moved on to Fermi
humble rover
Core22 has gone through several revisions so I wouldnt be too surprised if theyve moved away from the bare minimum stated
stuck bramble
Got a new chance to become 69
I ma at 70 now
Pc was offline for 5 to 6 hours today
😂
Due to power work
timber grove
oof
high willow
you could alternate months of folding and mining
maybe it would offset the cost
but idk how profitable mining really is anymore
timber grove
mining is still profitable but its better to invest in solar panels
teal patio
move to issaquah
shut nimbus
https://i.redd.it/boovqrvjrvu51.jpg
@stark bough wtf is he doing
humble rover
Homelabbing
timber grove
?
teal patio
pudget sound energy -- seattle city lights both energy companies in the greater seattle area aka king county. move to snohomish county :p
timber grove
ok
how much is the electric rate for pudget sound energy. i tried looking on their website but couldn't find it
teal patio
no idea. 🤷
humble rover
hushed bobcat
i think last month i was around 3500 kWh
stark bough
been wondering. which would be more efficient for PC folding on a 3700x.
6 core on medium profile or 4 core on high?
timber grove
i have a 2700x pulling near 120 watts under full load getting about 70,000-80,000 PPD @stark bough
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timber grove
rip
stuck bramble
So i am complete today and after that its donzo
I am only doing 3.5Milion points a day 😂
timber grove
just fold for a few hours a day
vernal lodge
its funny cause i just start my computer folding on my computer whenever my room gets cold and it gets pretty toasty :)
why not help cure diseases and keep my room warm
stark bough
Same. It’s getting cold. Finally
But I don’t want to run at full rate when not at home
Looks like 124 is as far as I go
timber grove
i hit 2 mill for my 24hr avg
tired crow
humble rover
bless
tired crow
timber grove
is that the web viewer?
hushed bobcat
the folding.lar.systems extension
humble rover
Yes thats the LAR extension
hushed bobcat
used for gathering PPD data on GPU's
timber grove
how do i add that?
humble rover
Latest update was pushed last monday IIRC
hushed bobcat
hushed bobcat
i noticed the updated client doesn't have a sleep mode
humble rover
Yep its a minimal animation mode
hushed bobcat
I don't see any options other than turning the graph on and off
fickle needle
Homedog with the power bill from above has other problems
how do you use that much electricity, /and/ need so much gas
their insulation must suck ass
timber grove
my internet provider went to shit ping 15ms download 1.30Mbps upload 3.32 Mbps. so i can't fold anymore for the time being
proper fractal
Upload being higher than download? That's a first
timber grove
that it is
tired crow
i noticed the updated client doesn't have a sleep mode
@hushed bobcat It's built in now. It's no sleep default the stats box goes to sleep on it's own if your not interacting with the window.
hushed bobcat
@tired crow so it will keep uploading PPD data no matter what right?
tired crow
As far as I know yes, as long as you have the window open it will collect data. I just have a window open all the time and it just gets buried behind whatever other windows I have open.
@hushed bobcat
You can check with LARs - https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1200195-fh-web-client-dark-skin-with-ppd-comparison-by-gpu-wu/
tired crow
As I said I have open in it's own window not sure how it will work if it's open in a tab
My desktop looks like this before I start to do anything
tired crow
Yes he just added that on the last update
stark bough
Yeah the new LAR extension is great
Haven’t had a chance to really play with it though
Oh nice! A CPU database now
Yeah, I feel like a CPU database is far more useful anyway. Given how many people fold on idle rigs
humble rover
The proportion of CPU folders is probably smaller than youd think
Much more useful in boinc where all CPUs are actively tracked
pseudo abyss
Sadly that database do not work for AMD cards because it just puts basically all AMD cards under one
For some reason
stark bough
Doesn’t it pull card info from bios?
pseudo abyss
I have no idea
but 5600(XT), 5700(XT) is lumped together as one
4 cards as one
At the same even the slight difference on Nvidia card get its own place
My 5700 XT is doing about 1,3 mill PPD
humble rover
*laughs in hawaii cards (thousand islands) *
My vega is averaging 900k, wish the early moonshot WUs were still around so it can do 1.4m KEKW
tired crow
It's the way F@H lables the cards the database can only go by the way F@H identifies the cards
hushed bobcat
my 1080 Ti averages 2 mil
stuck bramble
oof
timber grove
thats about what my 2070 does
stuck bramble
What is a P106 again ?
humble rover
1060 or similar
stuck bramble
Ah
stuck bramble
Not bad
Oh gosh
Are the download servers down again ?
Nope they are not
😂
Yet atleast
hushed bobcat
im only having issues with CPU WU's
stuck bramble
I am not running mine 😂
On cpu atleast
Its 24 threads but i dont see the point of that
humble rover
I havent noticed any extended pauses since last week
hushed bobcat
hushed bobcat
yea its bad