#folding-and-boinc | Linus Tech Tips | Page 83

forest sapphire Jul 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I was kinda blown away by it

rich depot Jul 1, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Fair enough, have a good stream

hushed bobcat Jul 1, 2020, 8:37 PM

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RTX Voice, discord streaming, and NVENC streaming all use cuda

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If you fold while doing any of those the programs get very unhappy

brittle coral Jul 1, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Yea ive found that if im in a game and folding RTX voice will shit the bed

forest sapphire Jul 1, 2020, 9:22 PM

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haha

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yeah I don't really use RTX voice

brittle coral Jul 1, 2020, 9:24 PM

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you def want to if you have the ability lol

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the difference is huge if there's any background noise

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i always have fans and stuff going audibly on mic cause of how hot it is and no AC in my room yet

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i say yet because im fucking over it and im getting the AC i own out to use and finding parts for the window kit lol

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i punched a hole through the wall to run an extension cable from the garage into my closet cause my family i live with has been ignoring my pleas for years

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I fucked up a customer project yesterday because it was to hot to think and i haven't had tech support customers come to me in ages so im pissed xD

forest sapphire Jul 1, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Yeah I have used it and saw LTT video about it.

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I don't have a lot of background noise here

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But I can say that I will be getting an AC if the temps are gonna stay around 90 degrees or more for too long

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especially working from home and not being able to go into the office

hushed bobcat Jul 2, 2020, 2:11 AM

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I use RTX voice so I can use Voice Activity instead of Push to Talk

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it cuts out my breathing and any random noises my desk/chair make

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:28 AM

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oh now that is cool

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YEah my buddy needs to start using that lol

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 6:17 AM

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@fierce steppe this is what I am referring to:

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fierce steppe Jul 2, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Go to the log and see what it's doing

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Well I just removed the slot and added it back lol

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Its like it got stuck

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cause now it doesn't have a work server assigned to it

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Yeah I think the server just got stuck.

timber grove Jul 2, 2020, 7:10 AM

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can someone help me out please

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limpid pilot Jul 2, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Try searching folding@home in the windows search bar and run what shows up. I think you have the control software running but fahclient isn't running (which is what actually does the jobs)

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 7:39 AM

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@forest sapphire That's what it looks like when it is trying to download a new WU. Do you have a slot saying ready and a work queue slot saying downloading ?

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Like this ? If you do that is normal

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rich depot Jul 2, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Uh... no bueno

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forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@tired crow ahh okay. I will have to remember that then. But i have had it sit there for quite some time attempting to download. longer than I would think to be acceptable.

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 3:47 PM

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@forest sapphire Couple of things you can try. 1) set the flag client-type - advanced 2) setup the babysitter script -

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https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1181338-foldinghome-babysitter/

Linus Tech Tips

Folding@Home Babysitter

Creating a place to discuss the Folding@Home Babysitter script It has been noticed that pause and un-pausing slots that are stuck in a waiting status looking for work has improved the clients ability to connect and download work units. Thats where the Babysitter script that @d...

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Yeah it happens like once a day. usually while I am sleeping lol. So that isn't a bad idea. But will this correct the attempting to download part?

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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sorry first image was bad lol

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this is what I am seeing now

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Setting advanced opens up late stage bata WUsthat gives you a biggr pool of WUs to draw from

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yeah I don't have an issue with getting WU's

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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How F@H works is each time it trys to get a WU and fails the time until the next try increases

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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My machine has been busy all week

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 4:36 PM

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\that last screen cap show a 14min wait for the next attempt

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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yeah i pasued and started

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it was able to pull it now

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and it is folding

tired crow Jul 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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The Babysitter script checks that time and when it gets too long it resets it

forest sapphire Jul 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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ahh okay cool

marble quartz Jul 3, 2020, 4:51 PM

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sad

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hype is over i guess

rich depot Jul 3, 2020, 7:57 PM

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We see this happen every summer anyway, this is our weekly points, look at how much higher the points still are compared to pre COVID levels!

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@marble quartz

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Been playing with my 1080 seeing what I can do with a 75% power limit, I think it's going pretty well

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marble quartz Jul 3, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I see

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well the graph of previous summer looks flat in comparison to this lol

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i guess who wants to have a space heater running mid summer anyways

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although it doesn't really feel like summer yet over here in Germany

rich depot Jul 3, 2020, 8:10 PM

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It looks flat because the changes are so minor, for instance look at this, red is folding month 2018, blue is folding month 2019. These were 10-20x more than the normal production at the time. Just for reference

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proven marlin Jul 3, 2020, 8:58 PM

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yeah, the temps are plenty toasty down here in southeast Alabama and panhandle region of Florida. Lovely smack you in the face high humidity 95-98F/35-37C. xD Though, I will soon be going somewhere that makes Florida temps look a bit tame.

hushed bobcat Jul 4, 2020, 1:50 AM

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I'm hanging in there

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interesting

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my PPD on the 21st, 24th and 25th is pretty much my Estimated PPD

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so my max theoretical output

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i really need to get that dual xeon server back online

rich depot Jul 4, 2020, 4:12 AM

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o boi

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brittle coral Jul 4, 2020, 6:46 AM

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so with my water loop

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my 2080ti is able to hit 2.8m ppd

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now that its stable and in a 16x slot

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+220 core +200 mem

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gonna let it run to 10% on this WU to make sure it doesnt error (usually does within 1-2% if its not) and then switch to timespy testing for gaming OC profile xD

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im going for at least 2100 on core which would make it basically angel tier silicon if it goes above that easily lol

lunar quartz Jul 4, 2020, 10:58 AM

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What exactly is this channel for, idk what folding and boinc is

rich depot Jul 4, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Please see the pinned messages for context

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Its basically using our compute resources for other research facilities to use for their own simulations and calculations that would help solve and find cures for various diseases, and now, focused on finding cures for COVID 19

undone dust Jul 6, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Heyo

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Top 50 Solo

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brittle coral Jul 6, 2020, 5:28 AM

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soooo, at 2040mhz core and 7000 mem clock this is what a 2080ti can do 😆

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forest sapphire Jul 7, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Well folding on my system and playing COD MW2 I can still pull 100FPS on ultra settings

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3900x with a 2080ti is a nice setup lol

silver wing Jul 8, 2020, 9:21 AM

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@undone dust Seems to be a mistake in your Team info though 😉

empty island Jul 8, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Is it normal for the gpu performance utilization limit to be true and gpu load be 100% while folding because it says the only limiting thing is utilization?

rich depot Jul 8, 2020, 12:51 PM

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@silver wing agreed

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@empty island On task manager you need to look at CUDA for team green

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It's called compute for team red GPUs

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You need to select it from the drop down arrow, see here

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empty island Jul 8, 2020, 12:55 PM

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the cuda graph shows 99% - 100% usage and in hwinfo, gpu core load is 100%

rich depot Jul 8, 2020, 12:56 PM

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My GPU has been tuned for the best folding efficiency and as you can see, most things sit idle

empty island Jul 8, 2020, 1:01 PM

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I usually have it on when I'm playing games, but now and again I just let it run with nothing else open
I use rtss to cap the games at either 30 or 60 fps so that it can fold faster

brittle coral Jul 9, 2020, 1:24 AM

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i normally just let my game compete for resources and if it isnt getting enough i pause F@H

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seems to work pretty well

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also i broke 3 million PPD on some WU on my 2080ti with the current overclock o_O

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has anyone else here ever seen numbers that high for any work units?

rich depot Jul 9, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I do this too Faxon

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@brittle coral I'm getting 1.6m on a 1080, thats just COVID moonshot work units

pallid cedar Jul 9, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Don't worry the second wave will hit in a few months and we'll all be folding like crazy again.

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I jest ofc 🙂 I hope it doesn't. The LTT team's monthly score is still insanely high relative to anyone but the unaligned.

forest sapphire Jul 9, 2020, 9:19 PM

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@brittle coral Yeah I do the same thing. Fro the most part I can get most games to hit 100fps while folding.

brittle coral Jul 9, 2020, 9:26 PM

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lol i didn't realize @rich depot

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last night i was getting 3.3m on some of those WU xD

rich depot Jul 9, 2020, 10:02 PM

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@brittle coral You can also get really shitty Moonshot WUs that tank your PPD

brittle coral Jul 9, 2020, 10:06 PM

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i have mostly been yea

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right now i have another

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1.5m

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usually theyre 1.3

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when my 2080ti was in a 4x slot theyd go as low as 700kppd

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@_@

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thats 1070 non TI territory

rich depot Jul 10, 2020, 4:03 AM

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halp folding wont connect no matter what i do and now im going into depression help........

hushed bobcat Jul 10, 2020, 4:14 AM

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@brittle coral

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hushed bobcat Jul 11, 2020, 12:53 AM

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wow 13416 is a real beast of a WU

fickle hinge Jul 11, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Meh :v

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umbral steppe Jul 11, 2020, 12:18 PM

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So how would F@H work with a PCIe Xeon Phi, nowadays these are pretty cheap, often coming at less than $100

midnight dust Jul 12, 2020, 12:42 AM

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How would the Tesla K80 do in F@H

rich depot Jul 12, 2020, 1:34 AM

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My F@H doesn't want to turn on

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i will try re installing it

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yeah didn't work

severe warren Jul 12, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Hey guys. I wanted to ask if my gpu should be at 100% while folding or not

hushed bobcat Jul 12, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Yes 100% is normal

severe warren Jul 12, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Ok becuse I see it's only at 80% most of the time

dusky thicket Jul 12, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Who is helping the big cactus with boinc?

fringe solar Jul 12, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@midnight dust that's not the best card, why?

rich depot Jul 12, 2020, 5:05 PM

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@severe warren what do you mean by set it at 80%?

crimson sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 7:46 PM

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So, I've been folding since March. it's been alright mostly, but I get the occasional crash. I just use my GPU for folding, but it feels like my overclock isn't even stable for that. The GPU folding is NOT cpu intensive work, and there's 4 cores to do the job, and a good air cooler to spread out the heat. Yet, I get the occasional crash when I leave a work unit to run overnight, what gives?

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I can't decide if I hate these 13416 WUs or love them. Depending on the unit I fluctuate from 1.2m PPD all the way up to 4.7m PPD

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@severe warren 80% is not uncommon to see. Also it depends on the tool you are using to measure that percentage. Task manager has several different things it can look at when it comes to GPU usage, and MSI Afterburner is decent but not always 100% accurate. I see a lot of 80-90% usages on my cards depending on the work units and the tool measuring it so I'd say you are probably fine.

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@crimson sparrow Sometimes even a minor overclock can be unstable in just the wrong way. If you are having stability issues like that I'd say the best bet would be to disable all overclocks for a few days and see if you continue to have issues. Last year sometimes my 7700k @ a measly 4.8ghz would also cause issues while folding even though I wasn't doing CPU folding. The CPU with Nvidia cards has enough calls going to it constantly that it can cause issues and crash the WU or potentially even the entire PC. At least that's my experience in Windows.

rich depot Jul 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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@crimson sparrow Could be the GPU causing the crashes, OC'd?

crimson sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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@humble rock Thanks, that seems to be my case too.

brittle coral Jul 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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@severe warren its more common to see that with a 2080ti or similarly high performing GPU ive found, also AMD cards seem to fluctuate a lot more as well in transient load

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@humble rock i hate them xD i like consistency

crimson sparrow Jul 12, 2020, 10:36 PM

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No GPU overclock here, temps are within <75C too

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Speaking of AMD cards, does anyone know the average PPD of a 5700 non-XT?

brittle coral Jul 12, 2020, 10:36 PM

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seeing 4.3mppd is cool on my 2080ti but i feel like theres so many of them it's slowing down my entire farm over all

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uh it should be around 650k-1mppd id wager relative to what my 5700xt did

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maybe 1.1

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i saw my 5700xt hit 1.3 a few times lol

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yeah, I'm getting hit pretty hard with my cards. I should be doing about 6m PPD but I'm only seeing like 4.5m to 5m on a good day.

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Ah, 1.1m. That's an alright number, not too shabby

brittle coral Jul 12, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i have a farm which when it was full of cards could hit peak 10m ppd thats run as low as 3-4m ppd on days i let it fold all day

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no interruptions

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they're terrible xD

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most of the time expect to be around 800k i'd bet on the 5700 tbh

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mine was usually around 900k-1m

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it was slower than a 2060 on avg

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:38 PM

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They make me sad for sure. I love seeing that 4+m PPD number for a single card though

brittle coral Jul 12, 2020, 10:38 PM

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nvidia seems to do better for folding for sure

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I wouldn't mind just those WUs if you know what I mean

brittle coral Jul 12, 2020, 10:39 PM

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hahaha right

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my card is overclocked +220 on core on my 2080ti so it could prob hit like

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idek

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a lot more than 4.3 if you're seeing 4.3 on a 5700xt

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er non xt

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Nah, I'm seeing 4.3 on a Titan V

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My 5700 isn't folding. It's just sitting there collecting dust

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I've only got Titans folding, lol. Some of them are so inefficient, but it's fun having them do something instead of sit on a shelf.

severe warren Jul 12, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@humble rock ok becuse i have 2 1060's and 1 1050 running on my 3 rigs and i still get around 70-80% usage on all of them

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by the way i saw the usage in task manager

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i just checked my 1060 rig and its only at 30% usage for the gpu in task manager

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i dont know why its so low

humble rock Jul 12, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Which graph do you have selected?

brittle coral Jul 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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@humble rock none of those i dont use task manager to monitor GPU, on AMD I sometimes use the driver software but otherwise I use afterburner

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it lumps all GPU use into a single loaded or not % so you see a real accurate % of GPU loading, AMD's driver is similar but it will show more variability as well as load spikes and slows during computation. i never actually bothered looking closely at if this lines up with what's reported in afterburner but im gonna check rn lmao

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@humble rock it does indeed line up with wahts reported in afterburner

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afterburner seems to have a more accurate graph

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hwinfo also reports it in real time but doesnt have graphing so i don't bother checking there either, its reporting 50-100% utilization range tho on AMD

humble rock Jul 13, 2020, 12:27 AM

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I was asking Imperium since he wasn't showing correct usage in task manager. Was just wondering which graph he was looking at figuring that might be why he was seeing such low GPU usage.

severe warren Jul 13, 2020, 2:59 AM

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@humble rock sorry for the late reply but it was on the "copy" graph but when i switched it over to the "Cuda" graph it showed 98-99% usage

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is Cuda the right graph im suposed to be looking at?

brittle coral Jul 13, 2020, 3:07 AM

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@severe warren yea for folding. if you're trying to measure multiple kinds of use simultaneously the only way to do it is in afterburner or hwinfo. Ive been trying to benchmark not just the impact on gaming but the raw gpu uses impact from RTX voice, and the only way to measure that kind of use is in afterburner with the graph lol

severe warren Jul 13, 2020, 3:37 AM

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ah ok thanks for the help

rich depot Jul 13, 2020, 5:30 AM

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I use Windows Taskmanager to Monitor. Because Darkmode u know. And I can reduce the diagrams to just show me them by doubleclicking.

rich depot Jul 13, 2020, 5:52 AM

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...u know?

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young heath Jul 13, 2020, 5:59 AM

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dude restart your pc lol

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almost 5 days uptime

severe warren Jul 13, 2020, 6:04 AM

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lol yea

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i try to restart my rigs every 2 days

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it gets insanely slow after u dont restart

hushed bobcat Jul 13, 2020, 6:11 AM

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@young heath @severe warren

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lol

rich depot Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Uehm, it's just almost only 5 days. I recently restarted it.
Usually I let it on for around 100 days between reboots.

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btw, that screenshot was at idle. 😅

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Speaking of processes...
6 Discord
67 Chrome
7 Steam
6 WhatsApp
5 Runtime Broker
82 svchost
So if I assume one program equals 6 tasks and divide the remaining chrome processes into my tabs, one tab is 2 tasks.

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severe warren Jul 13, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Gawd damn

hushed bobcat Jul 13, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Usually I go a month between restarts on my main PC

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servers and stuff go 3-4 months between restarts

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my uptime record that i got a screenshot of

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brittle coral Jul 13, 2020, 9:38 AM

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my last windows 7 install i think i went over a year without rebooting it at one point, and over 2 months of online time in teamspeak as well lmao

humble rock Jul 13, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Same, I reboot my machines as little as possible. My work machine routinely hits 100 days uptime and my personal machine at home can do longer than that. Windows Updates disabled and OS upgrades disabled as well so I don't have to worry about those automatic restarts.

hushed bobcat Jul 13, 2020, 3:51 PM

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You have upgrades disabled in 10?

humble rock Jul 13, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Yeah

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Don't need that shit downloading and installing randomly.

rich depot Jul 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I've got them disabled too

hushed bobcat Jul 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I've tried but the best I can do is defer updates for a month

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Which I think they are removing

rich depot Jul 13, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Windows 10 pro?

old schooner Jul 13, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Same , Windows 7 was pretty good at turning that off.

distant rapids Jul 13, 2020, 10:12 PM

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anyone using unraid here?

hushed bobcat Jul 13, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Yea I use Pro

brittle coral Jul 13, 2020, 11:24 PM

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yay my 5700xt is back in action full time

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my friend got his 2nd 2070 super RMA returned today (first one EVGA sent was bad)

swift condor Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 AM

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evga sent me two bad cards for RMA and had to pay shipping each way.... that was the last evga card i will ever buy

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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@brittle coral what PPD do you see on that Navi card?

brittle coral Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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900k-1.3m ideally but practically speaking less cause moonshot and other slower WU c ropping up more recentely

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@swift condor did you ask them if they'd pay shipping on sending it back? my buddy asked and they issued him a shipping label, he only had to pay for the shipment to them the first time

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some companies will even hook you up with a shipping label if you ask if you're not far from them, on the first go. corsair issued me one for my PSU

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Can anyone here check some maths for me regarding power cost?

brittle coral Jul 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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i mean isnt it generally basic math for that? but yea lol

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I'm just doubting myself, I have a variable tarrif, for 7 hours per day it is 9.1p/KWh and for the remaining 17 hours it is 21p. If my usage remained perfectly the same, my average cost of power is 17.43p/KWh right? @brittle coral

brittle coral Jul 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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yea sounds about right

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Thanks, trying to get a new fixed rate supplier but don't want to end up paying more cause I fucked up somewhere on the maths along the way

brittle coral Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 AM

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i struggle with math sometimes without breaking shit down

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i break it up into segments yea

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you say you spend 17hrs at 21p

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so i add 21p 17 times

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then i add another 9.1 7 times to that total, and divide by 24

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i think?

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i get 17.529167 this way, rounded to 17.53

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it may be roundabout but it works lol

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breaks it down into bite sized bits

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Thats pretty much exactly how I did it too

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Although I broke it down to percentages and did that, 7/24 is 30%, so did 9.1 x3, 21 x7, total divided by 10.

brittle coral Jul 14, 2020, 8:19 AM

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you lose a bit of precision doing that weay

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thats why my value came out higher

tired crow Jul 14, 2020, 8:20 AM

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@rich depot Don't forget about the daily access charge. Some times you can find a tariff that has a slightly higher daily charge and a slightly lower KWh charge sometimes that can work out a bit better depending on your usage.

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 8:22 AM

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@tired crow I currently have no standing charge, but because my power usage is as high as it(1.2KW minimum), having a standing charge with a cheaper per unit cost should work out cheaper. Once I find a tariff I will do the maths in full to be sure.

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Doesn't help I have a first generation Smart meter and most power suppliers can't support the unit. But it is too new to be replaced. sigh

tired crow Jul 14, 2020, 8:25 AM

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My Smrt meter doesn't work half the time any way it's had no conecttion for about the last 3 weeks

rich depot Jul 14, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Well if mine does that we'd be screwed as there is no way to add credit on it otherwise

hushed bobcat Jul 15, 2020, 8:09 AM

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havent seen that for awhile

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interesting

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it seems instead of a bare IP its using a DNS for the assign servers

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and 4 different ones at that

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they must be trying something new

tired crow Jul 15, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I noticed that early today when I was waiting a little while to get a WU

solemn mulch Jul 15, 2020, 1:22 PM

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havent seen that for awhile
@hushed bobcat Its ok

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it'll get a WU

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ussually my gtx 1660 ti when its asking for WU it'll respond like that

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and eventually get a WU

stark bough Jul 15, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Time to get an upgrade

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10x = $1

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rich depot Jul 15, 2020, 6:00 PM

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i just realized that running FAH for an entire night after an oc is a suprisingly good way to test it

hushed bobcat Jul 15, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I agree

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Running fah while gaming is even better

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If your PC can handle that it can handle just about anything

severe warren Jul 16, 2020, 12:00 AM

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yup its a really good way of testing stability on a overclock or just seeing what ur pc can handle and what it cant.

stark bough Jul 16, 2020, 5:10 AM

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@rich depot FAH is just competitive Validation.

dusk hound Jul 16, 2020, 10:04 PM

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bruh thats almost a steal

stark mesa Jul 16, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Time to get an upgrade
@stark bough Good deal - running that now - is very nice

trail night Jul 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Just keep folding

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harold

solemn mulch Jul 17, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Lol

vale dirge Jul 17, 2020, 11:28 PM

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What does #folding-and-boinc mean?

vestal heart Jul 18, 2020, 1:44 AM

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boinc is a distributed computing platform, folding is short for folding@home, which is a protein folding simulation that uses the boinc platform.

rich depot Jul 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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@vestal heart Folding@Home doesnt use anything related to BOINC. They tried a good time ago but the system was not really compatible with folding

next goblet Jul 18, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Using folding@home to test CPU overclock huh

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I always test in something => other things crashes, so It's like one has to test in everything for a long time to make sure it really is stable

remote dawn Jul 18, 2020, 5:48 PM

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What does #folding-and-boinc mean?
@vale dirge Your computer will help with scientific research simulations. Collectively, folding at home is now more powerful than any other supercomputer once people found out they can help solve COVID 19.

vale dirge Jul 18, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Ok ok, i don’t have the hardware power for that

hushed bobcat Jul 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@vale dirge pretty much anything desktop made in the last 6 years should be fine. What are you trying to fold on?

vale dirge Jul 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I’ve only got a dell laptop

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I’m not trying to with my current system

hushed bobcat Jul 18, 2020, 11:02 PM

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That's probably a good idea with laptops. Usually they can't thermally handle a sustained high load.

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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hey just out of curiosity has there been anything in the news about research done on F@H that resulted in any breakthroughs or progress in better understanding covid? just curious to see what progress has been made. I'm sitting here having just come back from getting tested cause i have conjunctivitis and a low grade sinus infection (the latter is common for me but the former is less so), and it made me wonder just what kind of results may have been published so far.

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 3:26 AM

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You can see updates on the FAH twitter page

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ahh thats where they're hiding them

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i never go on twitter

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the only time im on twitter is when my politically active friend links tweet chains from people talking about various issues, saves me the pain of sifting through all the awful comments lol

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@brittle coral For more in-depth stuff you can go here too https://foldingathome.org/papers-results/

Folding@home

Folding@Home

Papers & Results

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 4:59 AM

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yea thats more my style

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xD

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im super ADHD so sometimes summaries are better but when i find that perfect balance for a bit i will zone out on some technical level medical studies for a bit

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my doctors frequently haven't read as recent of data as I have xD

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man, hadn't noticed but i broke 500m (rank 46 all time on team)

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my numbers tanked for a bit without my 5700xt but now everything is back up as often as possible lol

hushed bobcat Jul 19, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I'm close to breaking into the top 300 on the team

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 8:57 AM

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@hushed bobcat Nice!

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 2:09 PM

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it this points per day norm

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tired crow Jul 19, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Any number of points can be normal all depends what hardware you are using.

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Ryzen 7 2700x and gtx1080 ftw hybrid from evga

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CPU at 4.16ghz sustained no issues 75c

tired crow Jul 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Acorrding to https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall a gtx1080 should give you around 887,851 PPD that looks about spot on.

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Not sure about the R7 2700x I don't fold my CPU

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yeah, CPU frosting is mostly pointless imo

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Most of the CPU WUs have a GPU counterpart these days

unreal coyote Jul 19, 2020, 6:19 PM

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what is this chat for?

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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For folding and boinc, obviously /s

unreal coyote Jul 19, 2020, 6:20 PM

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the hell is that

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 6:21 PM

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It's basically people donates their computer time to help act as a virtual super computer for medical or scientific research

unreal coyote Jul 19, 2020, 6:21 PM

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ah

rich depot Jul 19, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yeah

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@floral girder it's on the lower end of normal, depends on the work unit. a 1080 should be at that value at minimum most of the time but there's some WU right now which will tank your output as well, from the covid moonshot project. they have wildly varying WU for that project which could swing anywhere as low as half the standard PPD for a given card to as high as 50% greater than average PPD. I've seen my 2080ti go as low as 900kppd working on moonshot WU to as high as 3.8mppd, when its supposed to average like 2m-2.8m with the overclock I have on it. I feel like your current number is kind of low for a 1080 but my 1070 sits around 650-900kppd usually, occasionally going above 1m, and the 1080 is a fair bit faster than that, averaging above 1m typically from what i've ready

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 9:59 PM

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@brittle coral ok looks like I’m getting about 890,000 ppd now cpu and gpu I’ll keep an eye out if it goes up on a different work load thanks

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And is it normal for cpu to be at 75ish utilization

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brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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wat

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thats super weird lol

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normally if it hits a thread it'll hit it 100%

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Maybe it bc i changed it from 8threads to 16 and haven’t restarted? I did that to make the computer a little more useable

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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i guess that the cores arent usually exactly 100%

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but

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you shouldn't need to restart but that could affect it for sure

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Ya I guess

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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this is my 2600

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i have 6 threads set plus its feeding 3 GPUs with a thread each

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er its only feeding 2 now nvm

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when you tell it to run 100% tho it generally runs 100%

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near it anyway

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Ima restart F@H brb

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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shouldn't matter

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if it needs to restart it will restart the process while its running

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if you adjust it by enough it will even dump the WU

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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So after pausing an ending F@H and restarting it still at 70ish utilization so maybe when the WU finishes it will go to 100%

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And ur gpu is it using cuda only right??

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:37 PM

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yea

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and thats possible that its the WU

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true 100% shouldnt happen it will be in the 90s

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if you are aiming to have the rig be useable tho, being in the low 90s to high 80% range should be fine tho

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Before I was seeing 91

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:38 PM

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just keep in mind the GPU does shuffle data around from time to time

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i like having 10% overhead for system cause thats about what my RGBed up system uses at idle

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7-10% lol

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Same razer crap and rgb stuff adds overhead

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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corsair here lol

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i dont touch razer stuff

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all my perhipherals are logitech and that software has like 0 overhead lol

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its just icue eating most of it

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it seems to use more CPU the more LEDs you throw in and im also running an AX1200i right now

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but thats gonna change

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ive been having intermittent issues with mine like many ppl have

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prob gonna get a 1300 G2 from EVGA to replace it

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:42 PM

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You need all that wattage for Gpus

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I have a 650 from evga

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No issues at all

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@brittle coral thanks for the help/input and evga is the way to go for psu my 650 had no issues it’s from evga

brittle coral Jul 19, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yea i don't need a 1300w PSU

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but

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i like having one

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never know when i might want to dual gPU a rig or test something wild

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the issue is to do with their digital circuitry in the AX1200i in particular

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the others have some issues too tho

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it's just ridiculous and im gonna go back to a not fully digital unit again based on what kingpin recommends for stability. he uses the 1600w G2 and while it's not the exact same platform as the 1300w, they're built very similarly

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also its only $250 and in stock, for a 1300w xD

floral girder Jul 19, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Cool I don’t think I will need anywhere that much wattage ever and $250 is not horrible

brittle coral Jul 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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yea the idea is to have the PSU not need the fan to spin up ever

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i pull about 500-550 under load max

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with an overclocked 2080ti

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3900x

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4 sticks of ram and 11 fans and a D5 pump (D5 takes 35w), plus all the RGB. i actually need to test how much all the RGB draws lol

hushed bobcat Jul 20, 2020, 2:43 AM

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im a fan of the Seasonic Prime series PSU's

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mostly Corsair peripherals here

tame canopy Jul 20, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I have a 1200w P2 I hope it's enough for my upgrade in Sept

brittle coral Jul 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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@hushed bobcat i have a prime 1200 in my 3 card folding rig

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wait sadface its 2 cards now

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the 1060 3gb died

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idk if i can fix it, it stops showing up in windows after a period of time and crashes WU as well from it

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havent tried using it as a primary display adapter yet in a test bench

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also i finally figured out what was up with my RAM not hitting 3600 properly consistently

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for some reason it wasnt accepting my SOC voltage before or i didn't touch it when i thought i did

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upped it a tiny bit and boom

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dgaf 3600 all day no errors

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guess i gotta go tune my 2 other rigs now

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3800x i know can do it fine, 2600 may not be quite so happy xD will have to see how it does. def seems to help folding performance a bit even if not a ton, some WU more than others

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the 3GPU rig is actually using the 1200 nvm i swaped it, there is one with a 1070, a 980ti, and a p106-100 (1060 6gb) miner. poor little 8350k doesnt have any time to run its own threads lol

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i had 2 3GPU rigs, one running on a focus 850w using less power hungry GPUs, and another with the more hungry ones inc the 980ti, and i had to pull the 1060 3gb from the less hungry one

floral girder Jul 20, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Ima just put my username and link just cus https://stats.foldingathome.org/donor/96911466

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Oh and @brittle coral cpu is at 98and some utilization so I think it was just the wu

wraith echo Jul 21, 2020, 1:53 PM

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F@H keeps erroring out on my Unraid server with this error: WARNING:WU00:FS00:FahCore returned: FAILED_3 (255 = 0xff) Can someone point me in the right direction please?

hushed bobcat Jul 21, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I would delete the WU so the client can grab a new one

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Also check your OC

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It might not be stable

rancid frost Jul 22, 2020, 12:54 AM

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https://foldingathome.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/ETrKE-mXQAAwVhd-960x740.jpg

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This kinda rules.

rancid frost Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Is there a way to set a time when the client Finishes?

solid loom Jul 22, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Afaik no it only gives you an ETA only

dry widget Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 PM

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is F@H the best folding software to use? I'm running a club at my school next year to make a beast of a computer for research of COVID and stuff

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also, does it support SLI?

spring jewel Jul 22, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Just did a quick little search and it looks like SLI dosent really do anything to boost performance as each GPU is identified separately and will each be given their own job https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1167853-sli-mode-for-folding/
@dry widget

Linus Tech Tips

SLI mode for folding?

Hello everyone, I have recently added 2 GTX 960s I had laying around to my main system to fold on in addition to my main graphics card. My question is if I should be running these cards in SLI to get maximum folding performance or if I should run them independently, if it even...

hushed bobcat Jul 22, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Yes if you are folding make sure SLI is disabled, It can actually cause problems if its turned on

strange panther Jul 22, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Hey guys, how's it going

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Is everything folding alright?

rancid frost Jul 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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129,227,351 as of this morning.

hushed bobcat Jul 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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My stuff all looks good

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@rancid frost is that your rank in the project?

rancid frost Jul 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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That's my current point total.

hushed bobcat Jul 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ahh

rich depot Jul 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I have no idea what my point total is, I would probably look at it sometime @rancid frost

lusty quarry Jul 22, 2020, 7:27 PM

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guys, does folding make my like trash pc slower?

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if im using it while working and stuff

hollow grotto Jul 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@lusty quarry you can turn it on so that it’s only being used during idle

lusty quarry Jul 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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ok

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thanks

brittle coral Jul 23, 2020, 12:09 AM

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@hollow grotto @lusty quarry it only will run during "idle" when the monitor goes to sleep, to be clear. If you set your system itself to go to sleep at the same time as well, your rig may not fold at all (you generally want to disable sleep when you install F@H)

lusty quarry Jul 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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ok

unreal rapids Jul 26, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Why do both my GPU's only show barely 1% utilization?

unreal rapids Jul 26, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I found out apparently Task Manager doesnt tell you the whole story when it comes to your GPU. I download GPU Z and its showing the GPU cracking it out.

cursive dew Jul 26, 2020, 5:37 AM

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task manager usually show over utilization I think

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And even though you might crank up computing, if your 3rd is not utulized

hushed bobcat Jul 26, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@unreal rapids

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you can kinda use Task Manager to see utilization while folding

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just need to change one of the Windows to Cuda or Compute

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GPU-Z is defiantly a better choice though

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my favorite is MSI Afterburner

fading stone Jul 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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They should create folding-bitcoins as compensation with public progress log

hushed bobcat Jul 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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They have that

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It's called Curecoin

fading stone Jul 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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To show what proteins etc they’re mapping

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Oo nice

hushed bobcat Jul 27, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Basically you get paid for points earned

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EVGA also has something similar

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You can get money off from EVGA products including gfx cards

fading stone Jul 27, 2020, 9:41 AM

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So many opportunities here.. been studying R, an nih.gov I was reading said they figured out how to use R to analyze MRI slices for fractal patterns in blood vessels then flag anomalies as potentially cancerous

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Also Xeon phi etc is maybe very useful down the road

stark bough Jul 27, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Evga looks nice to run but only if electricity doesn’t have a cost. For me $10 “credit” doesn’t make sense in summer due to AC costs

hushed bobcat Jul 27, 2020, 12:58 PM

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This is true

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I did some math and with my power cost I would spend almost double what a new gfx card costs in electricity

stark bough Jul 27, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Spending $9-$22 (Due TI variable TOU/WU and not including wear.
4 days of straight folding gets me $5, and not gurranteed $10 with my current efficiency per a watt

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Plus maintenance, and those dust particles off your mobo and bearing you know will never come out

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I run things 24/7 so I have an air purifier to control dust but that has cost too in terms of not only cleaning, and fans, but electricity and replacement filters

rich depot Jul 30, 2020, 9:30 AM

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The big guys doing a call to action for folding! https://youtu.be/Kxx-4Vhb0-Y

https://youtu.be/WRv2EP1PDoo

YouTube

FoldingAtHome

Lisa Su - President and CEO AMD

▶ Play video

YouTube

FoldingAtHome

Huang Jensen CEO Nvidia

▶ Play video

tired crow Jul 30, 2020, 10:33 AM

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I hope F@H has a lot of new work ready to go or the WUs are going to dry up again.

rich depot Jul 30, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I'm starting the early planning stages of Folding Month 2020, please read this post for more details. https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/902973-folding-community-board/?do=findComment&comment=13873063

Linus Tech Tips

Folding Community Board

kind steppe Jul 31, 2020, 2:06 PM

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📎 2000.jpg

rich depot Jul 31, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Well, Folding at home isn't working

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Or hasn't been working for over 3 months

hushed bobcat Jul 31, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I haven't had much issue

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Just a couple bad WU here and there

rich depot Jul 31, 2020, 9:58 PM

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But, thing won't connect to service

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It just won't even show the Icon

rancid frost Jul 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Might have to reinstall.

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Mine's been acting up recently too.

rich depot Aug 1, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I might have to uninstall and then install

slender urchin Aug 1, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Folding on 4 computers rn!

main ether Aug 2, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Great, keep it up!

slender urchin Aug 2, 2020, 9:55 AM

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tbh two of them are kinda garbage

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but

silver narwhal Aug 2, 2020, 10:27 AM

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who knows why my gt1030 kept grinding heavy units but my 1070ti always got nothing? two different pcs btw

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the 1030 would overshoot deadlines by almost 6 hours everytime

rich depot Aug 2, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Just the limited number of very small WUs floating about atm @silver narwhal

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As for why your other machine is sitting idle, you got the client on there fully updated? Good internet connection? Yknow the usually IT support stiff.

silver narwhal Aug 2, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Same network

rich depot Aug 2, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Interesting

rapid lodge Aug 2, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I was folding with my EVGA 1080 FTW yesterday and started to get weird artifacting. Turns out this is an OG card without thermal mod/BIOS update.

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it was doing over 1M PPD though!

floral girder Aug 2, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I’ve never had issues with my 1080 Ftw guess I don’t have the OG card

rapid lodge Aug 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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you can check the serial to see if you have one with the thermal pads pre-installed by EVGA or not

hushed bobcat Aug 2, 2020, 7:24 PM

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i find it odd that EVGA cards are known for crapping out while folding... and EVGA has a folding team where you can earn credit to by gfx cards....

grave field Aug 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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just for argument's sake, what is this channel meant or?

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i see a lot of "folding" and "boinc" stuff. but what is this "folding" and "boinc"?

rich depot Aug 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics to a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins, and is reliant on the simulations run on the volunteers' personal computers

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stole from wiki cause I'm sick of writing it out tbh

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Should mention i'm folding team leader, BOINC is similar but does many other fields of science

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@grave field

rapid lodge Aug 3, 2020, 1:21 AM

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They aren't known to crap out while folding. The first few months of the GTX 1080 ACX3.0 cards, they didn't have the best cooling for the VRM. They offered a free VRM thermal pad kit, and a vBIOS update for the card, so it'd ramp the fan up more aggressively

grave field Aug 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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@crude yew so folding and boinc is pretty much like.. body science and doctor stuff?

crude yew Aug 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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?!

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@grave field

grave field Aug 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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oh

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fuck. sorry

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i meant to ping the other guy

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Haha

grave field Aug 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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i just typed "@crude yew" and hit enter

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fuck

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i didnt mean to ping u again

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sorry

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yes, basically all the clients act as nodes in a virtual super computer

grave field Aug 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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what?

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i returded

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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It does science shit

grave field Aug 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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now ur speaking my language

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Helps to find cures and whatnot to illnesses like cancer and covid

delicate relic Aug 3, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Is there any way to fold on mobile

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I have 3 iPhone 11s

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I need to put them to good use

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Sell the Iphones and guy a couple GPUs is my suggestion

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And afaik folding on an Iphone would be against apple TOS, much like coin mining was

frozen peak Aug 3, 2020, 6:49 PM

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there is another app that does distributed computing on phones
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/mobile/dreamlab

Help COVID-19 and cancer research with DreamLab | Vodafone

Join a connected UK to take the fight to COVID-19 and cancer while you sleep - on our free, secure app.

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for both iOS and Android

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if you do plan to use in, point a small fan at your phones as they'll get toasty

rich depot Aug 3, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I haven't folded for a while

hushed bobcat Aug 4, 2020, 3:26 AM

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still going strong here

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well strong for me

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my power bill doesnt like the estimated 850 kw/h a month

tired crow Aug 4, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I don't like my power bill either and my 2 systems are using about 450 kw/h a month

rich depot Aug 4, 2020, 12:59 PM

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@tired crow I just don't look at my power bill...

tired crow Aug 4, 2020, 1:04 PM

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@rich depot I don't either but she who must be obeyed does and reminds me.

rich depot Aug 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Hahaha

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I've swapped provider, just waiting for it to kick in, should be a 20% reduction... which means I can get another card right?

tired crow Aug 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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I just got 2 x 2060 supers for my R7 1700 system to replace RX 580 and RX 590.

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My PPD has gone up a lot in the last day

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Got to be ready for folding month.

rich depot Aug 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Nice!

spare garden Aug 4, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Guys, can I get custom solutions from AMD?

rich depot Aug 4, 2020, 1:21 PM

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@spare garden Custom solutions?

spare garden Aug 4, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Yeah

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Custom CPUs and GPUs

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@rich depot

rich depot Aug 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I mean, if you have millions in dev money and are planning to buy a few million units then possibly

ruby pond Aug 4, 2020, 11:24 PM

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@spare garden PepeLaugh

delicate relic Aug 5, 2020, 6:52 AM

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@frozen peak thanks

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I’ve done 100 calculations already on each phone

frozen peak Aug 5, 2020, 6:54 AM

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nice

rich depot Aug 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Gonna do some folding on a RTX 2070. Haven’t been folding for awhile lol.

hushed bobcat Aug 6, 2020, 3:50 AM

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RTX is good for folding

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 11:06 AM

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NICE!!!! Good to have you back baby!

unborn lily Aug 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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what is folding?

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics to a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins, and is reliant on the simulations run on the volunteers' personal computers

stole from wiki cause I'm sick of writing it out tbh

Should mention i'm folding team leader, BOINC is similar but does many other fields of science

chrome nebula Aug 6, 2020, 11:40 AM

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So im too smol brain to help here

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 2:01 PM

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@chrome nebula Not really, all you do is install a program and run it for the most part

chrome nebula Aug 6, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Oh

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yep

timid skiff Aug 6, 2020, 2:51 PM

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So how does folding work?

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You just download and run a program, and it calculates protein folding and the such to help cure... something?

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Basically

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You do need to add the team number and sign up to get your passkey, but they send you no emails other than your passkey

west inlet Aug 6, 2020, 3:49 PM

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@rich depot did you know that can gain crypto with folding

hushed bobcat Aug 6, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Alot of ppl I talk to seem to think Folding is more complicated than it is

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At least the part about setting it up

stark bough Aug 6, 2020, 3:58 PM

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“You ever been infected by a virus”

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“Well no..”
“Yes you have, well it’s kinda like that”

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@west inlet How??

west inlet Aug 6, 2020, 4:04 PM

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imma allowed to post a link here ?

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or better

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just google

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banano mining

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you will fold with team banano

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a cryptho actually a fork of nano

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and has discord

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a large community and many ways to gain

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i also got RTX2070 and i am going to try folding again lol

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 4:13 PM

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oh lol nice

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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@west inlet You know that whole thing got crushed under it's own weight because it wasn't worth it right?

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If you're folding for money, 1. you're doing it for the wrong reasons, 2. it will never profit or even come close to break even

hushed bobcat Aug 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Curecoin or EVGA credit are alternatives.
But Spectrum is right its not the point of Folding nor is it profitable (unless your graphics cards and power are free)

ionic sluice Aug 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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How is folding@home after inital covid hype?

stark bough Aug 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Curecoin or EVGA credit are alternatives.
But Spectrum is right its not the point of Folding nor is it profitable (unless your graphics cards and power are free)
@hushed bobcat
That’s typically the case for kids who already have the hardware but don’t pay the bills.
Once you involve money into something competitive it changes the whole dynamic

rich depot Aug 6, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@ionic sluice Still much better than it was before it, we are seeing the gradual downward trend we was expecting, we are making as much in a day, as we were in a month a year ago.

stark bough Aug 6, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Plus it’s hot

wicked solstice Aug 6, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I tried to run folding on my mom's old laptop that has 4 gigs of ram and a 3rd gen i3,

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the estimated time for 1 task was 30 hours

kindred stag Aug 6, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Yep. Old systems often take a long time. I have an older i5 laptop now beyond my normal work rigs, and it occasionally is over a day for a WU and occasionally down to about 5 hours. Luck of the draw on what the work unit is.

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Same thing when I crank up the old Xeons in my servers, which I normally slice up in 4 core chunks. Most WU's are about 6-8 hours that it gets handed, but some are as little as 2 and some are 20+. In the end, the score system helps even all that out, so you're producing similar PPD (points per day), no matter if it is 1 long WU or several shorter ones.

wicked solstice Aug 6, 2020, 11:31 PM

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that computer was very loud so couldn't have it keep running, so sadly had to take it down

kindred stag Aug 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Yep. Hard to keep the servers cranked full blast too, since they're in the house. I generally only run them flat out for events, while I keep a few cores going on random stuff most of the time, especially in winter.

wicked solstice Aug 6, 2020, 11:40 PM

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sadly, wish i could of helped for a great cause

stark bough Aug 7, 2020, 1:44 PM

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I’m planning on spinning up the heat in 4 months. Just don’t want it right now

stark bough Aug 8, 2020, 3:50 AM

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if anything, "when idle" tends to be really conservative.

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but thats just my experience.

hushed bobcat Aug 8, 2020, 4:05 AM

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When idle seems to be basically when your screensaver would turn on

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But I've never used it myself

gaunt wasp Aug 8, 2020, 4:30 AM

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The day of the tropical storm coming through my area I decided to leave my folding computer off after the power went out a few times for about 16 hours. Aside from that and some cleaning breaks & a RAM troubleshoot, it’s been online & folding for months on end.

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Planning to keep it folding. 👍😷✊

stark bough Aug 8, 2020, 5:18 AM

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anyone folding on a 3700x?

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think im hitting a bottleneck with PPT. IU never got around to tuning.

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split barn Aug 8, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@hushed bobcat
That’s typically the case for kids who already have the hardware but don’t pay the bills.
Once you involve money into something competitive it changes the whole dynamic
@stark bough

This is err...kinds true in my case. I'm a pharmacy student that got stuck at my parents' when Texas shut down. My 3600 and 2070S have been running unless I've been using the system for classwork, gaming, or servicing it. Due to the way my power plan works when I get back to my apartment, my roommate and I are constantly targeting a specific usage rate every month to qualify for a rebate on our bills. Folding actually helps us meet those targets and gets us our rebates :)

The EVGA program has effectively paid for one of the biggest upgrades I did this summer, which was converting my already-cool-but-noisy FTW3 card into a FTW3 Hybrid (i.e. I slapped a 120 mm Aio on the card).

I don't think the program will ever get me to the point where I can afford to slap a second card into my system, let alone upgrade to Ampere, but we'll see.

stark bough Aug 8, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Yeah, well if the dorm means you dont have to pay for utilities, it works. i actually considered paying my 1070 that way back in 2016

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it works better as a team i guess, but you're still limited to roughlty $10 a month through EVGA.

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if the math worked out id totally do it though

brittle coral Aug 9, 2020, 9:09 AM

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@stark bough only 3.8ghz on a 3700x at peak? damn

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ive been busy just came back to check this out. on my 3800x this is what ryzen master looks like

stark bough Aug 9, 2020, 9:10 AM

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I’m hitting PpT. Maybe if I under volt

brittle coral Aug 9, 2020, 9:10 AM

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idk why you'd hit PPT and not be higher tho

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yea why is your PPT only 88w

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i don't THINK i changed mine but my PPT is set to 142w

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getting 4.1 boost

stark bough Aug 9, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Everything is still stock. I legit never got around to increasing things

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Except for XMP

brittle coral Aug 9, 2020, 9:11 AM

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yea

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always a good call to start

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my CPU is only sitting at about 78w as well

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i think i increased some of these values tbh

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wait no i cant have

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i havent touched ryzen master since before i put the 3800x in this rig, it had the 3900x thats in this rig now before xD

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so it is all default afaik

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i tried resetting my stuff and yea 142w is my stock PPT

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im only hitting 69% of it as well

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i might have some things in the bios tweaked that allow this tho

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idk

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all i know is it's hitting decent speeds and temps are not awful lol

tight cobalt Aug 9, 2020, 2:07 PM

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nice

west inlet Aug 9, 2020, 2:53 PM

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@rich depot mine for fun when i don't use the card , it doesn't bother me as it's a secondary card , but i want to know if i can break the card ? what's the difference between mining/folding and gaming with the card ?

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if gaming all day won't break the card , so mining is same right ?

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75° max

solid anchor Aug 9, 2020, 7:13 PM

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It is all abouy temps and voltages. High on either for long duration is bad

rich depot Aug 10, 2020, 1:35 AM

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@west inlet This isn't the channel to talk about mining btw.

hushed bobcat Aug 10, 2020, 10:10 AM

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@west inlet Folding and Mining are considered a higher overall load than gaming
Because even the most intense games have periods of down time (menus, loading screens, etc)
Folding is 100% 24/7 (assuming you can get enough Work)
On some graphics cards (and laptops) that has caused premature failure due to power delivery devices not being able to handle that much current 24/7 with no breaks.

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even with that said i've had 4 graphics cards and 3 CPU's folding since March and I plan on continuing to fold as hard as possible until a cure for COVID is found

west inlet Aug 10, 2020, 1:59 PM

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thank you for answering , you made it clear

stark bough Aug 10, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Folding/mining is a harder test of your overall build than gaming. If you ever heard of the term validation, this is it

rich depot Aug 10, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@hushed bobcat I had a 980ti that folding from launch till last year, still going strong in a friends rig

stark bough Aug 10, 2020, 10:06 PM

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YEESH

solemn mulch Aug 13, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Is everyone FAH viewer still showing 'Demos' and 'connecting'?

stark bough Aug 13, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Finding viewer is broken by default. You have to roll back to a good version, I forget which, to make it work

solemn mulch Aug 13, 2020, 3:04 AM

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ok thx

rich depot Aug 13, 2020, 10:27 AM

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@stark bough I believe it was fixed in the newer releases of the client

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Can confirm, 7.6.13 has a working viewer

hushed bobcat Aug 14, 2020, 8:39 AM

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7.6.13 is working for me as well

rich depot Aug 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Watching this Screenshot...
We really need to get down our light pollution... More directional lights on streets..

silver narwhal Aug 14, 2020, 9:35 AM

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my physics teacher in high school happened to be the author of the light pollution atlas

rich depot Aug 14, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Light pollution is by far the largest restriction for astronomy on earth. Even more than the starlink satellites.

hushed bobcat Aug 14, 2020, 11:55 AM

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I saw a video on light pollution, was very interesting.

stark bough Aug 15, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Average person: Looknat that civilization

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Me: Light Pollution

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I have a neat video on the subject but I’m on mobile

trail night Aug 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I got a build that its only for Folding, And I am about to update the Nvidia drivers, since its only for folding should I do the Studio Drivers? Or the Game Ready Drivers? Ping with answer thank you!

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❤️

hushed bobcat Aug 15, 2020, 12:23 PM

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@trail night You don't need latest and greatest for folding. You want stability so you don't send a bad WU.
Studio all the way for me

trail night Aug 15, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Thanks So Studio it is!

trail night Aug 16, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Can Anybody help me to add the Clients so I can see al my pc's folding In one ?

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I tried already but does not seem be working

tired crow Aug 16, 2020, 3:25 PM

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@trail night https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/990176-howto-remotely-access-your-folding-systems-part-1-fahcontrol/

Linus Tech Tips

HOWTO: Remotely Access your Folding Systems - Part 1 FAHControl

Theres been a few posts lately where people have been having issues accessing a Folding Rig from another Computer using the Advanced Control client. Couple of important points. Even on your local machine Folding is divided between two parts. The Server which manages folding th...

tepid roost Aug 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I noticed the server LTT hosts for F@H is almost full according to https://apps.foldingathome.org/serverstats. Does anyone know if they're planning on doing anything about this or if they're aware?

tired crow Aug 18, 2020, 8:57 PM

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@tepid roost It fills up and emptys out all the time don't worry about it.

tepid roost Aug 19, 2020, 11:00 AM

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@tired crow ah ok didnt know that! Thanks for the answer 🙂

plucky hamlet Aug 19, 2020, 3:18 PM

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If anyone is looking for really cheap compute power for folding at home or boink you can get 3 gb gtx 1060 equivalents for less than 30$ after taxes and shipping on ebay right now

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P106-90. There is a seller with about 1000 of them and accepted my offer for 4 for 25$ each. They don't have a display out so you need a secondary display out but they would be good to put as a second compute card in a daily rig that you run f@h on

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 8:59 AM

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@plucky hamlet can you link me?

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DM. Need to confirm the guy

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https://www.hardwaresecrets.com/seeking-the-best-performance-per-watt-for-folding-home/

Hardware Secrets

Gabriel Torres

Seeking The Best Performance per Watt for Folding@Home - Hardware S...

We tested several video cards to see which one provides the best performance/watt ratio in order for you to get a high score at Folding@Home and, at the same time, not going bankrupt with the increase in your electricity bill.

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WOW. blast from the past.
2008

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https://www.hardwaresecrets.com/seeking-the-best-performance-per-watt-for-folding-home/5/

Hardware Secrets

Gabriel Torres

Seeking The Best Performance per Watt for Folding@Home - Page 5 of ...

We tested several video cards to see which one provides the best performance/watt ratio in order for you to get a high score at Folding@Home and, at the same time, not going bankrupt with the increase in your electricity bill.

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https://greenfoldingathome.com/category/gpus/

Green Folding@Home

GPUs – Green Folding@Home

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well, winter is coming...

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LUL

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 9:58 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/pW1Ar9c.png

Imgur

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https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34240

Folding Forum • View topic - Top GPUs for Folding@Home

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Neat. a chart for PPD by card. now all i need is a PPW

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2060s/1070 seems to be the best for $/PPD/PPW

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 10:48 AM

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@stark bough here you go.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iauimDyaUS0jnpeYqRNbM2uub-ASvS1OEz2yEUNJgls/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

GPU PPD per kWh

Sheet1

GPU,PPD millions,Card Power Draw (watts),Daily power Usage kWh,Points per kWh,Daily cost @ $0.17 per kWh,Cost per 1m PPD,Annual Points millions,Annual power cost
Tesla T4,TU104GL,1.058,70,1.68,629762,$0.29,$0.27,386,$104.24
RTX 2080 Ti Rev. A,TU102,3.219,250,6,536500,$...

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And the answer is 2060 super

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Ah. i need to edit that so I can plug in my daily cost.

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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It gives the daily costs

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 10:50 AM

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as in $0.1897 per KWh

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good chart though. source?

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I was reading that a used 1070 is close to a 2060 S but cheaper to acquire.

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 10:52 AM

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It give the daily power usage so just do it for your power cost. My cost is .17 so thats what I used for the sheet

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 10:56 AM

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oh is this your data?

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sorry im drifting in and out right noiw

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Yes the PPD data comes from https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall I looked up the specs for power draw. I was trying to figure out what card to upgrade to so made the sheet up. Seeing as how I had done it all I decided to share it to help out other lookimg for the same kind of info.

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I ended up getting 2x 2060 supers. If you set the power limit to 80% you drop the power draw down to around 130w with no real difference in PPD.

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Oh. nice. seems to match up with what i read. So for the most part its extrapolated based on Power draw and PPD?

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wonder if you could add a column for 'rough market price' for these too

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PPD/Average $ maybe?

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Can't really do that as the cost of cards changes to much to fast.

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I did make up a sheet that had that info but it covered a lot less cards.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jOPiKELHoxBwrJZvTsAccPLkJ657kr1CD3K9EvO3XSk/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

gpu total costs

Sheet1

GPU,Cost,PPD millions,Cost per 1m PPD,Card Power,Daily power,Points / kWh,Daily cost @,Cost per,Annual Points,Annual power,Total cost / 1m,Total cost per 1m,Total cost per 1m
Draw (watts),Usage kWh,£0.17 per kWh,1m PPD,millions,cost,points after 1 year,points after 2 ...

stark bough Aug 20, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Can't really do that as the cost of cards changes to much to fast.
@tired crow
Yeah I figure I'd start with 'most efficient' and narrow that down to 'best value' and come up with a short list.

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If i was better at writing code id probably automate it or something.

crimson spade Aug 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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What is this chat?

tired crow Aug 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Like the title says talk about folding and boinc 🙂

plucky hamlet Aug 20, 2020, 2:07 PM

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@plucky hamlet can you link me?
@stark bough
Just search P106-90 on ebay there are tons of listings

split barn Aug 21, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Good morning guys.
My current folding/workstation rig is sporting an R5 3600, 2070S on a B450 Tomahawk (NON-MAX). My PSU is an EVGA 850 G+. I'm really tempted to get an old 980Ti or older card that make at least another 100K PPD for $99.99 or less. Would it be worth it? I've mentioned this before, but my electrical plan requires me and my roommate to hit a certain kWh to receive a rebate on our bill monthly...

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Or maybe I just need to chill my upgrade bug 😅

split barn Aug 21, 2020, 10:05 AM

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....on further investigation, I don't think my board would be too supportive of this 2nd GPU idea

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📎 Screenshot_20200821-050627_Acrobat_for_Samsung.jpg

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Since I have a WiFi PCIe card, I'd need to plug it in to the 2nd or 3rd slot because a double slot card would easily block the 5th slot. But it explicitly says that by doing so, I'd make the x16 4th slot run at a max of x2 speed....

rancid frost Aug 21, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Looks like you need a riser.

hushed bobcat Aug 21, 2020, 1:26 PM

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It should still work, but you may be limited on higher end cards

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You may want to keep it to something like a GTX 1050 Ti to 1060, or P106-90

split barn Aug 22, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Perhaps.

crimson spade Aug 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@tired crow idk what folding is

tired crow Aug 22, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@crimson spade Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for disease research.

crimson spade Aug 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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What does it take to run it?

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Cause my PC isn’t very good

tired crow Aug 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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https://foldingathome.org/home/

Folding@home

Folding@Home

Front Page - Folding@home

crimson spade Aug 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Thx

rich depot Aug 23, 2020, 9:46 AM

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I can now announce that Folding Month will be held in the month of October!

The sign up sheet and thread will be posted in the first weeks of September.

If anyone has any prizes they'd like to donate please do feel free to let me know.

stark bough Aug 23, 2020, 1:35 PM

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I need a cheap folding rig now

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linusKappa

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Actually I want to get a used card for a room heater

hushed bobcat Aug 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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just doing some power experimenting with my 1080 Ti

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looking at the power consumption differences between using Power Limit% and Negative Core Clock offset in MSI Afterburner

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seems like Power Limit is way more efficient

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i can get about a 30W decrease in power consumption at roughly the same clock speed

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Estimated TPF seems to be about the same as well

rich depot Aug 23, 2020, 9:47 PM

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@hushed bobcat Most of us who 24/7 fold with multiple cards have been plimiting for some time. 70% limits on my cards as standard

stark bough Aug 24, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Just curious if anyone else here is looking at used folding rig setups/sales.

hushed bobcat Aug 24, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I keep an eye out for graphics cards

hushed bobcat Aug 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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@rich depot do you happen to know how to limit power on Ubuntu?

plucky hamlet Aug 25, 2020, 3:51 AM

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@stark bough I'll keep beating this drum. P106-90s on ebay. 30$ a pop for a card in between a 1050ti and a 1060 3gb

tired crow Aug 25, 2020, 7:16 AM

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@plucky hamlet Actually the P106-90 has the lowest PPD of those 3 cards. P106-90 - 218K PPD, 1050ti - 246K PPD, 1060 3gb - 398K PPD

stark bough Aug 25, 2020, 8:12 AM

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problem i have with those is of course no video out. I;m planning opn deploying them in some cheap prebuilt or some used hardware from under $150 and literally use it as a microatx space heater.

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also needs to serve as a 'part time parsec client'

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expecting too much. maybe.

rich depot Aug 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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@hushed bobcat Head over to the folding community board and ask Gorgon he will know the answer, I only use Ubuntu on mobile devices

hushed bobcat Aug 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I just got a lot of 4 p106-90's for $175, they will be used as a second card in 3 systems

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In 2 of those systems they will replace GTX 660 Ti's

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I'm expecting 2-3x PPD with less power draw

plucky hamlet Aug 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

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@plucky hamlet Actually the P106-90 has the lowest PPD of those 3 cards. P106-90 - 218K PPD, 1050ti - 246K PPD, 1060 3gb - 398K PPD
@tired crow
Mine gets about 260k. There are a two different versions one has less shades than a 1050ti

stark bough Aug 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I’m tempted to nab one but I don’t have a “spare rig” to plop them in.

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Kinda reluctant to put them in my daily driver.

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How much power draw on these?

plucky hamlet Aug 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Yeah I wouldn't

stark bough Aug 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

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probably spent like 18 months sucking construction dust in a warehouse by a hydroelectric dam I bet

plucky hamlet Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

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How much power draw on these?
@stark bough
60-80W depends on how much you can get vcore down on them

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probably spent like 18 months sucking construction dust in a warehouse by a hydroelectric dam I bet
There is a reason they are 30$

stark bough Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

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yep, was watching a few vids on them

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Too bad they aren’t half width, I might have had a box for them.

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I got a spare core v1 or whatever the mini itx variant is for it. Was wondering if I could piece together a room heater box for one. WiFi only for flexable placement

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Should be able to run it only on iGPU and run it as basically a daughter card, right?

hushed bobcat Aug 25, 2020, 4:16 PM

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you mean run windows on the iGPU and folding on a p106 card?

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if so then yes that should work fine

hushed bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Current - Min - Max - Average

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pretty tight voltage regulation IMO

wind arrow Aug 26, 2020, 6:24 AM

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12 volts as fuck

hushed bobcat Aug 26, 2020, 6:25 AM

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this is folding for 51 hours

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some gaming

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just noticed this

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so the slot has failed

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but is somehow still running

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and the estimated PPD is 5x higher than a 660 Ti can put out

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I think its confused lol

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log looks fine

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ohh

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i was looking at the WU and log from slot 2

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slot 1 is the one that failed

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well it has been folding for 53 days straight

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maybe it needs a reboot lol

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i deleted and re-made the slot

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seems to be working now

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if not then ill reboot

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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that moment when you leave all your computers folding over night and wake up all hot and eww

rich depot Aug 27, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@dusky seal in the recent heatwave here in the UK I hit over 40C in the house due to folding... But... The proteins must flow!

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:40 PM

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lmao, i had a r7 2700x, two xeon x5660's, and my two laptops (6 core i7, and quad core i7) and my ac just couldn't keep up XD

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outside my room was an icebox

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:44 PM

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i put most of my folding rigs in the basement

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:45 PM

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i dont have a basement.... would be running them there if i could

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would be able to run my two other servers too

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(only has one outlet in reach and i dont want to max out 6 xeon x5660's on one outlet....)

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wish my desktop was more stable.... the 5700xt is not very stable so if i try to fold with it my system crashes

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:47 PM

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my 1080 Ti would crash occasionally, i fixed that by power limiting it to 85%

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i power limit it to 75% and limit the clocks to 1950 MHZ and it will run for about half an hour maybe a full hour if im lucky

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i've been running mine since April

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:49 PM

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its a mix of crappy amd drivers and the fact that i should probably reinstall windows...

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:49 PM

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only stopping folding to game

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PSU might be unstable as well

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:49 PM

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i also use this for dev work so a lot of my paths are messed up

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I had a friend who had issues with his PC folding

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:49 PM

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psu is not out of the question XD

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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turned out to be a bad power connecter adapter on the GPU

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https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/evga_600_pl_2816_lr_powerlink_cable_management_adapter_1488612936_1299072.jpg

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one of these

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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https://static.bhphoto.com/images/multiple_images/images500x500/1479838654_IMG_713056.jpg

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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pardon the mess XD

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that's my psu

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:51 PM

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fan failed?

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:51 PM

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yerps

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its an evga 750 gold

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but with a cheapo case fan slapped on top so the fan doesnt turn on and squeak like a beach

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fan does work.... just squeals the whole time

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probably a flat spot on a bearing

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and its bad enough that even my deaf self can hear it with my hearing aids on from two rooms away

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:53 PM

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wd-40 😛

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:53 PM

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tried that and im pretty sure it made the sound worse

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i had the psu open, i should have just soldered a new fan in

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also have a fractal design 850 platinum but... DOA

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have to contact fractal design and get it replaced

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 4:54 PM

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i run Seasonic in everything except my SuperMicro Server Chassis

dusky seal Aug 27, 2020, 4:54 PM

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could do the same with evga, just didnt think a gold 750 was worth the whole warranty bs

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i tend to run evga or seasonic

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up until now evga has been super reliable, the fan was probably more of the place i had it sittings fault, the case has a bottom air draw on it for the psu and idiot me put it on a carpet

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so the dust and lack of airflow probably killed the fan

stark bough Aug 27, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Anyone have any thoughts of buying one of those B stock EVGA PSUs for a side mining rig?

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Been wondering if I should look for old 7/8 gen prebuilts, build a new web browsing terminal with a mining card, or just build a new $500 rig.

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Trying not to dead end myself, I’ll probably use it for blue iris after my run

hollow dagger Aug 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Should I run it on my MacBook Pro 13inch?

acoustic oracle Aug 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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i dont think so

hushed bobcat Aug 27, 2020, 8:39 PM

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7th or 8th gen intel doesn't sound that old

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i would recommend a 3rd or 4th gen server motherboard so you can populate 4 slots with graphics cards

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they also have onboard video so you can run 4 mining cards on one system

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if you want to do some CPU folding you can get a dual socket board

stark bough Aug 27, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Overall my budget is $300 for now just to set up

hushed bobcat Aug 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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you could get a motherboard and CPU for that

stark bough Aug 28, 2020, 8:49 AM

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ooof. messed up the units.

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lowest one was on 'remote parsec/idle'

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6.08 KWh is whole day GPU folding.

tired crow Aug 28, 2020, 9:22 AM

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My GPUs are using a total of around 13kWh a day.

stark bough Aug 28, 2020, 9:39 AM

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https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fforbes-finds%2Ffiles%2F2019%2F02%2FLifesmart-1500-Watt-6-Element-Wood-Infrared-Portable-Heater-.jpg
playing around with build 'ideas' for winter.

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anyone know of any cases that legit look like space heaters, or can pass for one?

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It would be funny if someone could get around the "no space heaters allowed in the building" with a computer loophole.

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https://i.pinimg.com/236x/cf/20/f9/cf20f9df234289cf09968634ee77a384--computer-build-gaming-computer.jpg
RIP the c70

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91H0gOXDbJL._AC_SL1500_.jpg

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seems like 'lan party cases' would be the best cases as a 'space heater alternative/folding rig'

wind arrow Aug 28, 2020, 4:20 PM

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thats pretty expensive wowie

gritty cosmos Aug 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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We need a cooler master h100 v2
That fixes all the problems the first one had and includes a window side panel lul

stark bough Aug 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Are micro ATX lan cases still being designed? Man I missed out on some of Corsairs cases

frozen oxide Aug 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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ye

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though most of the time if someone really wants a portable case for bringing to LANs they go straight to ITX

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the trend in ITX cases that can also support 3-slot GPUs is a good one

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tu150, NR200, NZXT H1, ncase M1, k77 v2 in order of ease of acquiring and price sorta 😛

stark bough Aug 29, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Yeah the 3 slot I’ve seen but still kind of rare

hushed bobcat Aug 29, 2020, 11:47 PM

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just got my P106-90s

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they appear to be a tad "strong" lol

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curious as to what the actual number will be

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im expecting around 200k

hushed bobcat Aug 30, 2020, 1:01 AM

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not bad

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hmm

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i cant get a p106 to show up in another system

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i think its because the companion graphics card is too old

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GTX 660 Ti

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i've tried several drivers from 452.06 to 398

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452 drivers should work

lunar quartz Aug 30, 2020, 2:29 AM

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What do you get from doing this sorta stuff?

hushed bobcat Aug 30, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Helping find a cure for various diseases

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Including COVID

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Other than that it's kinda fun for me

marble quartz Aug 30, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Space heater

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But a useful one

sweet shard Aug 30, 2020, 11:06 PM

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i can fold paper

stark bough Aug 31, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Can you fold while you sleep?

gritty cosmos Aug 31, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Yes

rich depot Aug 31, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Folding month 2020 is live!!!!!!

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gilded spruce Aug 31, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh cool

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Anyone else wish there was a way to configure F@H to just finish the current WU and not start another? I sometimes will set a shutdown timer on my workstation here and let the WUs finish if they're close to being done (or even if they're not), but I know sitting on a WU for a few hours while the computer is off doesn't exactly do wonders for one's PPD

spring jewel Aug 31, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Dosent the finish button do exactly that? It finishes your current WU without downloading a new one

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hushed bobcat Aug 31, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Yea hit finish

gilded spruce Aug 31, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Right, but it finishes it right there, not "let the WU proceed to 100% completion then stop and pause"

hushed bobcat Aug 31, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Finish does let the WU complete though?

frozen peak Aug 31, 2020, 11:28 PM

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gilded spruce Sep 1, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Huh. I could've sworn I'd tried using it before and it went to wrap up the WU on the spot and grabbed a new one.

hushed bobcat Sep 1, 2020, 2:06 AM

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i've only seen it wrap up a WU and move on if the WU fails

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and that has nothing to do with "Finish"

gilded spruce Sep 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Yeah, that's probably just what I'm thinking of rather. I mean it is Arch, and it has a habit of needing to be rebuilt after updates to deps and I forget to do that.

untold dome Sep 1, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Whats the most important parts for DeepLearning Rig?
I know the fist thing ofc will be the GPU, I mean the part that most often cause bottleneck.

hushed bobcat Sep 1, 2020, 8:36 PM

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the P106-90's like WU 13422

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260k Estimated PPD

stark bough Sep 3, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Damn. trying to bank energy credits right now. might have to bow out this run

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oh. Oct 9. Yeah thats doable.

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was about to say would be nucking futs to fold during a heat wave.

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any cheap/reasonable half width cards to shive in an optiplex?

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currently using them as nodes.

hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 3:22 AM

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quadro cards come to mind

stark bough Sep 3, 2020, 3:49 AM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gFv6s_ANrI0/maxresdefault.jpg

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I got one of these. I leave it as a plex/parsec client. got it for $130 or so.

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the quadro line confuses me so much.

hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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@stark bough https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nvidia-Quadro-P1000-4GB-4-Mini-DP-Used-Reapplied-Thermal-Paste-No-Addapters/313204940290?hash=item48ec781e02:g:oC8AAOSwZfBfSIc9

eBay

Nvidia Quadro P1000 4GB 4 Mini DP - Used - Reapplied Thermal Paste-...

Nvidia Quadro P1000 4GB PCI-E 3.0 x16 4 Mini DP - Used - Reapplied Thermal Paste. Condition is Used. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. No Mini DP Cords Tho You MUST BUY ADAPTERS.

stark bough Sep 3, 2020, 5:15 AM

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think i was looking at that earlier. How does it bench compared to the p106?

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or any 10 series cards for that matter?

hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 5:16 AM

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p1000 is the 10 series generation

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its about the same as a GTX 1050

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so maybe 100-150k PPD?

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or half to 2/3 of a p106-90

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you'd be better off getting p106-90's, taking the boards out of the cases, and screwing them down to 2x4's

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lol

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or putting them on boxes

grave abyss Sep 3, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Guys i got this weird issue with rx580 4g, So I started FAH for a days and I notice this strange habit of my gpu, So when the gpu folding at 0.10-12%.The whole just stopped and than start folding again. I’m not sure if my card didn’t have enough memory or something.

hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 6:46 AM

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unlikely that its a memory issue, folding doesnt require much VRAM.
check the logs in the advanced client, its more likely that your WU are failing due to an overclock

stark bough Sep 3, 2020, 7:49 AM

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@hushed bobcat
Was thinking of just building out a microATX box out of used hardware, use it 40 days out of the week for whatever i need it to, then running folding when I want the heat.
https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-otis-1-0-build-your-own-intel-qsv-hw-transcoder/4845

serverbuilds.net Forums

[Guide] OTiS 1.0 - Build your own Intel QSV HW transcoder!

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was planning on using this guide. havent commited to any hardware config at this point. just a general form factor and that its mostly going to be headless.

deft sierra Sep 3, 2020, 3:58 PM

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the only purpose of ryzen apu + MX 350

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topaz flame Sep 3, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Finally got the A100 rig up and online 🙂

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hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Oh wow

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I searched around for awhile and could never find definitive proof that you could even fold on GRID cards

topaz flame Sep 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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it can in fact be did 🙂

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Got the DGX A100 racked up and using some folding for a burn in 😛

proven ruin Sep 3, 2020, 9:54 PM

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i am pretty new at this, how do i exactly join a team?

hushed bobcat Sep 3, 2020, 10:03 PM

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When you set up the client you can put in a team number

proven ruin Sep 3, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Ah- alright thank you ^~^

finite vale Sep 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I just started F@H

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Estimated points per day: 1 million.

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Hopefully it will get higher when i upgrade my GPU

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I'm running a 3800x OC'd to 4.3 all cores on 1.25v & a GTX 1070 with a slight OC

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:55 AM

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all my PC's together are around 3 mil PPD

finite vale Sep 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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I imagine a RTX 3080 would significantly improve my numbers. I'll find out at the end of the year.

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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i bet a 3080 by itself would be 4mil+

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@topaz flame whats the PPD on each of those GRID cards?

proper fractal Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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A 3080 will definately be more than a 2080ti

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 5:41 AM

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@hushed bobcat not totally sure, the web interface seems to be missing some of that info and I am off the VPN atm.

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the mac F@H client is oof so im at the mercy of the web UI

proven ruin Sep 4, 2020, 6:31 AM

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My pc ppd will possibly be lower than it should as my gpu is kinda dying, but i will let it do as much as possible

rich turtle Sep 4, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Gonna finish this up and get it rolling for folding month.

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topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:51 PM

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@hushed bobcat 09.04, 6am 1,157,891 30

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1.1m an hour so far

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30 WU's completed

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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26.4 Million PPD a day?

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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if I am able to get WUs consistently

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i assume thats total for the system

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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it was

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https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=238525

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I shutdown the other DGX node a few days

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had to make room for this one 😛

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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holy crap

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i didnt even see the 248 cores you have for a CPU LOL

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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annnnnnddd last night I fogot and left docker running in a terminal and not backgrounded

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dual epyc

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(so that run of F@H didnt go super long :P)

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:54 PM

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if you split those into multiple slots you should get more consistent WU's for the CPU's

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also by my math your GRID's are probably around 2.7-3mil ppd each

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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im interested to see where it goes

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I do have to make some ML stuff work for a nerd so idk if it will get all the GPUs all the time

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but for now just making sure its 'stable' 😛

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:57 PM

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how much power is that server sucking down?

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:58 PM

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its in my lab so I dont have the PDU instrumented 😦

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its on the list but... that list is long lol

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id guess around 5kw

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 3:58 PM

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i just looked up and each GA100 has a 400W TDP

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so there is 3,200 right there

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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6.5kw it the top end

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:00 PM

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epyc's are 225W each

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so just CPU's and GPU's are around 3725W

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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its a thicc boi

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:01 PM

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271lbs...

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:02 PM

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last one as a bit heavier

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and look at that power 😉

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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my 2 NAS's probably dont weigh much more than 100lbs together

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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the DGX2 we ended up using a lead battery lift to get it in the rack

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as the server lift limit was stated at 300~

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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rack must be beefy to handle that much weight

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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yup

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We also have to be fairly power dense

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10kw is oof

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:13 PM

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those 2 together would take all the power from my home backup generator 👀

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:17 PM

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and then I have a DGX1 to throw in the mix just to push you over lol

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hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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that last one is probably more power than every PC and server in my house put together

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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its what a majority of my F@H has been done on

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ahh xeon v4's

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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DGX2 was being used and the DGX A100 showed up literally this week

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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the server cpu that just wont die

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 4:21 PM

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lol tbh they are usually not CPU bound

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they are strapped together via a k8s cluster in prod mode

hushed bobcat Sep 4, 2020, 4:33 PM

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that last sentence officially went past my knowledge lol

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i vaguely understand what a cluster is

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also I just looked up how much a DGX2 costs

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wow

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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lol yeaaaahhhh

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Joys of corp budgets 🙂

stark bough Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I’m getting to the point where all this dabbling in networking and tech as a hobby is now starting to actually look like a career

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Back in 2009 my folks were like “don’t bother, it’s a hobby but any real jobs you’ll get outsourced. There’s no job security.”
2020 Whats job security?

topaz flame Sep 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Kubernetes

stuck escarp Sep 5, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Stare

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i with i had stuff that powerful

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other then my main rig i'm stuck with a pc i purchased from the library for $40 that uses an i7-2600 and a media pc that was thrown together using old parts i had after upgrading

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for this next folding even i'm going to have it use my 2070 super, 1070 and my little 610 in my makeshift server pc

hushed bobcat Sep 5, 2020, 2:13 AM

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That's quite a bit of power

stuck escarp Sep 5, 2020, 2:42 PM

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well got stuff up and running again, my little 610 is having trouble starting but i'm hoping it's just a hiccup on there end and my 1070 and 2070 super are cranking

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i only have my cpu running at half on my main pc and disabled on the other two PCs

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lets see how much power it is taking

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AmatsuWhat

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it's actually using a full 650 watts

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that's the highest I've ever seen it

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if the power were to go out the UPS would die in 3 minutes

upper sequoia Sep 5, 2020, 9:42 PM

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lapis gulch Sep 6, 2020, 3:53 AM

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@topaz flame o.o how much ppd are u getting per a100?

topaz flame Sep 6, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Hard to say at this point as I end up stopping the container from time to time if I am doing some training that I dont want to take forever

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when WU are proper im over a million an hour

rich turtle Sep 6, 2020, 2:46 PM

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That's every 3 hour though, right?

lapis gulch Sep 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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huh from 8 a100s id expect more

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https://folding.lar.systems/folding_data/gpu_ppd_overall according to here a titan rtx gets 3 mil ppd

wind arrow Sep 6, 2020, 6:33 PM

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wait the dgx thingy uses 10 kilowatt ???

hushed bobcat Sep 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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thats max possible power draw

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pretty sure sustained power draw is less

topaz flame Sep 6, 2020, 7:56 PM

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yesterday i didnt run for a full day, maybe 70%

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I may need to roll a new F@H container

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i did build it right at the start of the pandemic

hushed bobcat Sep 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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hmm considering that I do 2.5-3.0 PPD with a 1080 Ti, 970, 2 P106-90's and a 660 Ti (plus a few random CPU's)

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your numbers seem really low

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just one of your cards should match or even beat my total producion

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would it be possible for you to look at CPU and PCIE slot utilization while GPU folding?

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my 1080 Ti uses 25-30% PCIE bandwidth on a 3.0 x16 slot

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i think a 2080 Ti uses 5-10% more than that

topaz flame Sep 6, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Let me flip over to my work rig so i have access an I can post up info about CPU info, not sure whats going to give me percent of PCIe traffic.

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with JUST F@H running this is what nvidia-smi looks like

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earlier it was mentioned I should bust up the CPU into more 'slots' but im slightly unclear how to do this properly

topaz flame Sep 6, 2020, 9:44 PM

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oof getting FAHControl on a Mac is a PITA