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ornate ginkgo
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Thanks

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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and wb ❤️

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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Well... the CPUs are shiny 🙂

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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You keep harshing the vibe 😄 Celebrate! ❤️

ornate ginkgo
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I would have to liquidate more assets than I'd like to get the second chip, ram and cooler I'd need

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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I'm building a peak 2017 AMD gaming rig and even now it's running up over $2000

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah, spending the better part of a grand GBP for a platform upgrade is enough for me rn lmfao

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I will need to buy another 128GB DDR4 ECC to get it running all eight memory channels

tulip osprey
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That stuff gets EXPENSIVE

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
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Welcome back!

ornate ginkgo
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Thank youuu

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
ornate ginkgo
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haha thanks

simple tundra
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But jeez, man. How did shopping for one replacement PSU turn to buying nearly a whole PC 😭😭

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
# simple tundra But jeez, man. How did shopping for one replacement PSU turn to buying nearly a ...

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@steel arch can you pin this

dim dust
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@ornate ginkgo

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Don't even think about it. 😂

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Poaching my crew.

ornate ginkgo
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Lmfao

dim dust
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Stay back!

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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But we like winning. 🤷

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So instead I'll just say. We accept new members at any time. 😉

ocean inlet
ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Nice, which one did you go with?

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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I just sold my 3060 Ti, looking to get a 4060Ti or 4070 as replacement

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Nice, when you get two CPUs installed you'll need to do something about VRM temps on dual boards especially. Notice the VRMs are between both professors and share a crappy heatsink. They will get hot and throttle the CPU.

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What I did to mine to keep the temps in check.

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Super micro h11

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
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uh I don't know how I missed it that badly 😅

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ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
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I didn't even know dual cpu motherboards were still a thing (I don't know much about epyc 😔)

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
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Now that you mention it, yeah, that's like 1/3 of the board covered with just memory alone..

ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
# dim dust

This is amazing. Words cannot express how I feel.

ornate ginkgo
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8 channels, 2 DIMMS per channel same as desktop

simple tundra
dim dust
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I think Gigabyte makes one

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but i dont like GB so I wont ever buy it

ornate ginkgo
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Servers that are CPU only or are mainly CPU are the ones with all slots most often. Those with accelerators are like 50/50

dim dust
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Its AsRock

simple tundra
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Ah

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Yeah different motherboards for different server configs

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Makes sense

dim dust
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I only got 1 dual board, wont buy another because of the way the PCIe lanes are split. Screws up the GPU resources and you gotta taskset them on Linux to get the most out of them.

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my other 6 EPYCs are all single sockets.

simple tundra
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Other 6???

dim dust
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I have a few. lol

simple tundra
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Man.

dim dust
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Fitted with 5, 6 or 2 GPUS each.

simple tundra
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Ok I really gotta wonder where this computing power is going to

dim dust
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May 2025.

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When Team AnandTech kicks LTT's butt again in the Pentathlon. 😉

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I would say in 50 days when the next boincgames.com sprint starts, but LTT isn't competiting there.

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Probably can't hang, so I understand why they don't join it.

simple tundra
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😐

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Wow

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That's some dedication

dim dust
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or in 15 days when the next Primegrid Challenge starts

simple tundra
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Are you running all the Epycs at once, though?

dim dust
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Oh, the next PG challenge is CPU. So yeah, they'll be running in the PG challenge in 15 days.

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During the Summer, no. Only during comps.

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During the Winter, they all run. Everything runs. Kitchen Sink, too.

simple tundra
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Bruh

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Installing circuits and finding a way to cool down those babies must've taken some work, jeez

dim dust
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Yeah, I had to spread them out 😂

ornate ginkgo
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With my power costs I couldn't run more than I do

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0.57USD/KWh

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But then I can't work due to disability so that doesn't help

simple tundra
dim dust
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My power is like 0.11 USD/KWh

ornate ginkgo
stark bough
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Took some screenshot during Covid. There was a scare but there was also some optimism I guess?

And an out of context screenshot lol

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ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
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hushed bobcat
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didnt even know they got an update

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yea i uhh

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dont know how to set this up on linux

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wooo

hushed bobcat
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OK i think i got it

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might have to write up a small guide on how to set this up for headless machines....

hushed bobcat
hushed bobcat
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i wonder how this will affect the folding lar systems plugin

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also my main desktop wont fold

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reeeeeeeeee

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... nslookup finds it just fine

hushed bobcat
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so i tried rebooting my pc, now it wont even launch

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reinstalled it and now its atleast in the system tray....

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah I'm still on V7

hushed bobcat
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well i suggest staying there

thick fiber
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Using surprisingly little VRAM

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ornate ginkgo
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@dim dust

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Torque wrench comes tomorrow

hushed bobcat
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They're big aren't they

ornate ginkgo
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Yep

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
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Need some cable extensions for the fans to be able to manage them but this will do for now...

Foldatron 4.0 Beta reporting for service

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dim dust
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Nice setup, all of mine are in mining open frame racks

ornate ginkgo
rich depot
dim dust
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What is it?

ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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😦

hushed bobcat
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Ohh yes you are

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It's windows, the non enterprise versions of windows have a thread limit of 64

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I'm sorry but you need to either pay big $$ for enterprise windows, windows server, or go Linux

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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Creating a second slot with another 64 threads should also work

ornate ginkgo
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Will be moved to Ubuntu once I know shes stable and happy

hushed bobcat
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I moved to Linux mint and she ran

ornate ginkgo
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As far as slots, in V8 you can't define slots.

It technically has a 64 thread and a 24 thread slot, with 2 cores for GPUs. But it only loads up 64 threads

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I'll probably throw Ubuntu on it and see how that fares

hushed bobcat
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I could borrow back the epyc server I built if you really want and do some testing myself

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But I only have access to pro versions of windows

ornate ginkgo
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Like I said I'm running Windows 10 enterprise

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But I'll be installing Ubuntu tomorrow anyway, so will get back to you

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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I think I'm picking up that epyc server tonight 🙂

dim dust
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Well I don't waste my time on f@h. Never been an issue for me and mine 😂

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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Nice

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The setup for FAH 8 on Linux is a bit weird

ornate ginkgo
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Had to order a different WiFi adapter though, but I knew this one was flaky on Linux. But it will come tomorrow

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No it's why this one gets like a megabit on Linux but eh

hushed bobcat
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Kinda my experience with Linux

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If it doesn't work perfect out of the box you're in for a rough time

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah I knew from previously using it that it's dodgy on Linux... The old motherboard had built in WiFi but I just ordered the same as I have in another Linux system. It should come tomorrow

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Archer TX55E - for anyone curious

dim dust
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I've actually hadn't messed with wifi on Linux in decades

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Last time I did was on a laptop that I used for war driving 😂

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Dell i9300

ornate ginkgo
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There's just no way to get a cat5e cable to where it is

dim dust
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Been a while

dim dust
ornate ginkgo
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I have cable, jack's and tools for it, but I would need to throw it over the house

dim dust
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Throw it over the house 🤣

ornate ginkgo
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Cba

dim dust
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Hey honey, just ignore the cables hanging from our roof

ornate ginkgo
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Lmfao

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The joys of living in the middle of a terraced row of Houses

dim dust
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You know, twist it with christmas lights

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and it'll be easier to convince the wife with christmas lights year around lol

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look honey, pretty lights, all year long

ornate ginkgo
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I don't have a wife

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Makes life easier, I don't get "why are you buying more computers" yknow

dim dust
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You guys know a PrimeGrid Challenge Series is right around the corner.

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Though I don't expect LTT to join, but figured I'd mention it.

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You guys can't ever win anyway.

ornate ginkgo
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I'm a folding guy, but maybe some other peeps would be interested in joining

dim dust
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Best way not to lose. Don't join. lol

ornate ginkgo
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Hahaha

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I'll see you at the pent though

dim dust
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I'll see you guys too, if I turn around.

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and look behind me

ornate ginkgo
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Hey, feel free to step over to the folding side if you fancy an actual challenge

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BOINC is not our thing yknow, can't be good at everything

hushed bobcat
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I just like making computer hardware go brrrr

dim dust
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Yeah, I'm not much of a fan of F@H since the BigAdv thing years ago. I was with [H]ard|OCP at the time.

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Though I do run it about once a year for a competition; but F@H has so much funding and participation I'd rather put my hardware and electricity to other projects that have less funding.

pseudo abyss
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I wish BOINC was more user friendly to set up.

ornate ginkgo
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Linux fixed it

dim dust
pseudo abyss
# dim dust What's so complicated about it?

It's a pain in the ass to set up.

Gui is bad.

You have make individual accounts on every single project.

Some buttons in the klient works on some projects, but not on others. Because they do things differently. On one project a setting is in a client, while another its on the website. In some projects some setting does not actually so anything, but its still there.

Some projects are listed but not actually possible to use because they are basically dead. Basically a ghost.

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Just to say some of the problems, cold find more if I wanted to.

dim dust
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I can't think of an easier way to support multiple projects. The alternative would be to install an unique client/software for each and every single DC project out there? Let's be real.

pseudo abyss
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First step could be to not list dead/ghost projects

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Second could be to have all the settings in the klient, and all projects using them. Most of the settings was the same or similar enough that they could be made the same.

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For example settings on how much of the PC it uses, and when it runs settings.

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And if a project have setting that doesn't actually do anything, just gray it out in the client. Don't just have it there and I try it but it doesn't do any thing. And when I Google it says the project to see it doesn't support it.

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It's just shit.

ornate ginkgo
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@pseudo abyss TBF using an account manager like BAM really helps with a lot of these issues...

But having it be "standard" where you just have a BOINC account that uses a API token to log into individual projects would certainly make it easier

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Part of the issue is the limited funding for BOINC so it hasn't really had any major developments in quite some time

dim dust
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dim dust
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The BIONC client is far, far more customizable then F@H. It's not even close.

pseudo abyss
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I do not remember what project it was, but there was def a project where controlling how much cores it used in the client itself did nothing, but on another it did.

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On the one it did nothing, I had to change a setting on their website instead.

dim dust
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That sounds like quite a bug. Kind of like a bug that someone just recently posted about f@h not using the cores available to it when using Windows, but Linux worked fine.

hushed bobcat
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that wasnt a F@H bug that was windows

dim dust
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So Windows is the problem? F@H can do nothing to fix it in their Windows client, because only Microsoft can make a Windows update to fix the F@H client in Windows?

hushed bobcat
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no

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windows can only use 64 threads per individual process on home and pro versions

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enterprise is supposed to work with more, however Spectrums was not activated at the time

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which is what we suspect the issue was

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also windows server works with more than 64

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but thats big money usually

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i had the exact same issue with the epyc system i built earlier this year

dim dust
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Well that's confusing as if that's the problems then the answer to my question would have been yes. Only microsoft can make an update that will allow Windows to use more than 64 cores.

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However, from what I seen, even the Linux client was using TWO instances one running 64 cores and one running 29 cores.

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Which means F@H can't use more than 64 cores.

hushed bobcat
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well its not an update per se its an artificial limit in windows so you have to pay for the more expensive versions

hushed bobcat
dim dust
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Wasn't there two slots? One 64 cores and one 29 cores?

hushed bobcat
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i borrowed the server i built and will be installing F@H and doing some testing myself later today/tomorrow

hushed bobcat
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i could do 16 slots at 8 each

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what i dont know is what youve been asking, is their a client limit of 64 threads

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it could also be an issue with V8 of the client

dim dust
hushed bobcat
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no on windows too

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Only the Enterprise edition of Windows?

hushed bobcat
ornate ginkgo
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So you can set a slot to use more than 64 threads, but it's highly likely you'll be leaving performance on the table. Hence why the new resource manager makes slots of 64 threads max

hushed bobcat
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so by default it will create multiple 64 thread slots?

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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interesting

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i might play around with it and see what slot number gives the highest PPD/PLC

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i remember back in the day you wanted to set the threads at certain numbers

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like 5,11,13

dim dust
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But only on Linux right or an Enterprise edition of Windows?

ornate ginkgo
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Anything with bigger atom counts get thrown at GPU WUs

ornate ginkgo
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So if you give it a 64 thread slot and a 28 thread slot, you'll still only use 64 threads but windows will just share those 64 threads between what's being requested.

FaH will see there's more threads and will try to use them, but the windows scheduler won't allow it

hushed bobcat
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actually i wonder if it would be best to set a per slot thread count to the CCD size on our epyc chips

ornate ginkgo
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A6 WUs worked best with a prime number of threads for whatever reason

hushed bobcat
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ahh A6 i think is what i was thinking of

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i got into folding right at A7 came out

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also i just looked it up and my 7713 has 8 CCD's at 16 threads each

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might be interesting to try 8x16 threads, 4x32 threads, and 2x64 threads

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problem is PPD usually changes depending on the exact WU

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so i would have to let it run for awhile to get any useful data

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah

dim dust
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What version of Windows were you using?

ornate ginkgo
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Windows 10

dim dust
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Home/Pro/Education?

ornate ginkgo
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I'm pretty sure it was enterprise

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Unactivated because I never planned to leave windows on it

ornate ginkgo
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@hushed bobcat just seen update btw, if you try to assign more then 64 threads on the V7 client it gives you a warning about it. The A8 WUs have performance regression over 64 threads

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Also, after a day of F-ing around, I'm neck running the V8 client because I'm not experienced enough in Linux to know how to fix the issue I have with the V7 client

hushed bobcat
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my v8 client still wont work on my desktop at all

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installed v7 over top of v8 and it worked instantly

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v8 client on 2 different linux systems works fine

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also i think the CPU WU's i was getting were a9

dim dust
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Sounds, complicated.

ornate ginkgo
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Im trying to get more accustomed to Linux hence me running that software

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The "easy" fix is just buy a Win10e licence

dim dust
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trying not to learn something new? thats interesting.

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Linux isnt that difficult. Once you get the basic commands down, its pretty easy.

ornate ginkgo
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Basically, the snap package doesn't run in the user space, and I don't know how to make it do that, so it can't access the Nvidia libs

dim dust
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What distro?

ornate ginkgo
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Ubuntu

hushed bobcat
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i didnt install via snap at all

ornate ginkgo
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24.04.1

hushed bobcat
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and its working with a 1080ti in it right now

ornate ginkgo
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And it works...

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No wonder everyone shits on snap

hushed bobcat
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they say the same thing about installing docker via snap

dim dust
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So you're having Nvidia driver issues?

ornate ginkgo
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No

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I'm having snap issues

hushed bobcat
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literally everyone says rip it out and install via the official repository lol

ornate ginkgo
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Once I installed it directly from a .deb it works fine

hushed bobcat
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i was reading about some weird issues with certain hardware on 24

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i think, cant remember specifically

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though for my epyc system i might need the newer kernel

hushed bobcat
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after these finish im going to try with 4 31 thread slots

hushed bobcat
hushed bobcat
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early results are promising

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1.366 mil

hushed bobcat
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interesting, numbers seem to be trending downward

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still better than it was

hushed bobcat
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~1.18mil

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32-33% increase?

hushed bobcat
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early results on 15 thread slots
~1.4mil

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the one at 496k will def go down

dim dust
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LTT is killing it

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
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I'm such a noob

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Just took me 15 mins to get geekbench to run, I'm just an idiot with Linux sometimes

dim dust
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Primegrid Challenge

ornate ginkgo
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Ah

dim dust
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Yeah, it's not looking good for LTT

ornate ginkgo
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Oh well

tulip osprey
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I'm curious if anyone else sees this in the f@h stats.

My overall rank shows my points across 3 teams

However, I don't show in the all-time top 1000, because that seems to only track my points into the current team I'm contributing to.

Is this just a sort of "suck it up" kinda thing?

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ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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On the all-time stats on F@H I'm cleaerly not at 975, lol

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despite my donor page saying I am.

I'm betting that when EOC says I'm at 1000, I'll show up at 1000 on F@H too

ornate ginkgo
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Weird, if you tweet Greg you usually get a reply

tulip osprey
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tweet? like... on X? 😮

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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that was more of a "people use twitter, still?" comment, lol. I don't have an account there anymore.

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah lots of people use twitter

fickle needle
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I managed to appropriate a big pile of Dell rack servers at work (8 of them) and I have rack space and power provisioned, but I’ve been specifically told not to run distributed computing on the lab network, it’s a monkey’s paw

ornate ginkgo
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Why, what is the rationale behind that?

fickle needle
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Power lol, and perceived network security concerns, ultimately I’m not paying the power bill, and I don’t own the racks servers or switches

ornate ginkgo
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Interesting

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You would think if you have power provisioned that wouldn't be an issue

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Security wise, using a vlan or something like a network tunnel type deal would deal with most of that concern

fickle needle
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Meh, my friend has a power outlet on his porch, doesn’t mean he wants me coming over and charging my car on it

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We do have a proxy set up, but frankly I don’t want to jeopardize it by running tasks over it

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I almost wish there was a way to ferry tasks around via a thumb drive, that I could pull off

ornate ginkgo
fickle needle
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Ooooh

ornate ginkgo
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At least for BOINC you can

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Just download them on a client at home using a bunkering technique and copy the WU files to the right directory on the machine you want to crunch them

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I've done it to stack up WUs for events so I can do a mountain of work in advance

ornate ginkgo
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Currently the CPU is not in use, but can't wait to see 96 BOINC threads going

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dim dust
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I thought you got a 128 thread SKU? Why only 96 threads?

ornate ginkgo
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No, you are mistaken, I've always said I got a 7k62

hushed bobcat
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I have the 128 thread part

dim dust
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Ohhh okay, are you only running BOINC on it? No GPUs for F@H or anything?

hushed bobcat
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I've heard there are GPU workloads for some boinc projects?

dim dust
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Yes some projects can utilize GPUs.

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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They probably don't like losing.

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Oh, I don't think TAAT will let that happen.

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lol

normal tendon
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Woah, learned about BOINC from here. This is awesome!

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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^^ two challenges are coming in October for BOINC also 😉

ornate ginkgo
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We don't have a folding leader atm so let me know and I'll talk to the team

dim dust
ornate ginkgo
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Thanks!

ornate ginkgo
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@hearty rampart a pin please?

ornate ginkgo
hearty rampart
pseudo abyss
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I said last time that I may upgrade GPU before the next one, that haven't happened yet.

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Still on my 5700 XT

ornate ginkgo
fickle needle
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Does anyone have hints for BOINC projects that tolerate less than 1.5 gb of VRAM?

ornate ginkgo
fickle needle
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I’ll try to catch them when I can

pseudo abyss
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Unless something changes before I eventually upgrade, I may get an AMD card even if I know it's worse at Folding because of VRAM while gaming.

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shame me again maybe

ornate ginkgo
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I find 70ti class cards have plenty VRAM for my needs

dim dust
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Use this, its pretty accurate to see what each task takes on different BOINC projects.

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Well nevermind, its not working. Python errors.

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I dont really keep up with the "low" VRAM requirements on most projects as all my cards have plenty of VRAM except for some of the GPUGrid tasks which can take north of 16GB of VRAM.

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and I know Amicable Numbers needs like 8GB of System RAM for their tasks per GPU per task.

pseudo abyss
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12GB is not enough for 4k, it just isnt.

dim dust
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Wait till you try 4k times 3 lol

pseudo abyss
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I dont think I will ever do that.
But I have to accept either spending more than I like to, or worse folding performance.

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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I believe only the 4070 Ti Super has 16GB, all the other 4070 variants have 12GB

pseudo abyss
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Yes

fickle needle
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Thanks comrade! That worked a treat, apparently the Moo wrapper project will issue GPU tasks to pretty much anything

runic raft
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Yo is this good or dog

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Try a get into pcs Yk

dim dust
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Depends on what your goals are.

hushed bobcat
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For modern AAA game titles 8GB really isn't enough VRAM imo

dim dust
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If he games at 1080p it will probably suffice. Anything higher than 1080p and I agree. But this is the BOINC/Folding sub forum. So I'm to assume this will be used for one of those and not gaming. Which, it then depends on which project and goals.

honest heath
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dunno if this is the place to ask, but has anyone had experience with using an nvidia p40 for folding? i found one for sale near me for ~200 bucks at a negotiable price which is kind of unusual

ornate ginkgo
honest heath
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cool, thanks for the advice!

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I'm just staring at FB marketplace to see if any good deals come up for cards I can ~~buy for the sake of it ~~ use for a good cause like protein folding!!

ornate ginkgo
# honest heath cool, thanks for the advice!

Happy to help!

Don't get me wrong, if you have cheap power, or free with solar, then it could make sense. But the smart bet would be to spend a little more and get at least a RTX 3000 series card

honest heath
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I just thought the p40 was nifty tbh

ornate ginkgo
honest heath
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fun

honest heath
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found a 500 dollar rtx titan 😭 if only i had the money smh

hushed bobcat
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my 3060ti would do 1mil more ppd than my 1080 while consuming 75w less power

honest heath
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im running a regular 3060, i should prob get it working with folding 👍

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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yea

ornate ginkgo
normal tendon
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Does anyone have a problem with BOINC constantly detecting that the GPU is in use when it isnt and therefore never using the GPU?

dim dust
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Disable suspend when in use.

normal tendon
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I'm using an RX 580, but I'm about to upgrade to a 3060 ti, so maybe the fact that the 580 is old is the reason why it doesn't work

dim dust
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If it's still suspending GPU for "in use" then you didn't disable it.

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So how do you think you disabled it? The BOINC manager or the project's web preferences?

normal tendon
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And it's being suspended for "In use"

dim dust
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You said you disabled it. And now you're saying you didn't disable it? Which did you do?

normal tendon
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Neither of them had the GPU working

dim dust
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Select "Use GPU always" and it wont suspend it anymore for any reason.

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There are two you need to make sure "Run always" is selected at the top as well.

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BOINC will suspend the GPU for two reasons; one - if the CPU is in use, it will suspend the GPU. If the GPU is in use, it will only suspend the GPU. "In use" can be determined by two ways. 1. A % of the CPU (or GPU) being utilized by non-BOINC apps. 2. An exclusive app is open. (Exclusive app is a list of apps you can pick)

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"Run always" and "Use GPU always" will mean none of the above will work anymore and both the CPU and GPU will always run.

normal tendon
dim dust
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Restart BOINC and post the log after it loads up.

normal tendon
dim dust
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Your preferences are set to dont compute and don't use GPU when computer is "in use."

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The config is also ignoring the GPU
20-Oct-2024 13:32:09 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 1 (ignored by config): AMD Radeon (TM) RX 580 (driver version 3584.0 (PAL,HSAIL), device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (3584.0), 8192MB, 8192MB available, 5834 GFLOPS peak)

normal tendon
#

And why's it ignoring my GPU?

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Is it too out of date?

dim dust
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Because BOINC is supid. If two GPUs are present and one is significantly newer than the other then it will ignore the oldest. In this case, the onboard GPU appears to be newer/better (to BOINC) so BOINC is ignoring the discrete GPU.

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You can get around this by placing this line in your cc_config.xml file.

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<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>

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If you don't have a cc_config.xml file then just create that file, place that in it and restart BOINC.

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The "when computer is in use" setting is just that it's still set in your preferences. The screenshot I sent ignores that.

normal tendon
prime bronze
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boing

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whats folding?

torn kite
# prime bronze whats folding?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home

Folding@home

Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project aimed to help scientists develop new therapeutics for a variety of diseases by the means of simulating protein dynamics. This includes the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins, and is reliant on simulations run on volunteers' personal computers. Folding@home is curr...

torn kite
prime bronze
#

oh info about folding, i thought its just some contact link

ashen ice
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didn't folding get solved by ai recently

dim dust
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No

clever meadow
prime bronze
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true

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why isnt this channel still archived?

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seems like its 4 year overdue

ornate ginkgo
north crane
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boinc

tulip osprey
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Oooo! folding month!!

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Signed up! And I got to 50 on the LTT team today, too!

pseudo abyss
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I think I signed up. Dont remember.

tulip osprey
# pseudo abyss I think I signed up. Dont remember.

could sign up again here just in case: https://forms.gle/4XLWijNP6VGz29T56

Google Docs
Folding month VII(2024)

Welcome all for this years spectacular show of folding goodness where we all enjoy the cool weather (RIP down under) and fold for points and glory! But remember, We fold team first, glory second.

The inclusion of a pronoun option is to ensure everyone is being addressed as they would like to be in event blogs. We don't plan to include pronouns...

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
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And seeing as duplicates cause issues every year, I'm certain it can happen again

opal elbow
#

yay folding month!

pseudo abyss
ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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Thanks!

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
# ornate ginkgo There's no requirement to log in to fill in the form afaik

Ah, you're right, there isn't. I was just logged in so I thought there was.

You can do that with google forms, tho. If you make it so people have to log in with a google account, it will then give the option for only one form-fill per person and then if they reload the form, it shows their past submission.

opal elbow
#

So after running for a few months. I think I have a chance at the top 100 this year. Managing to hit 11-12 million a day. Unless everyone else jumped in with an upgraded machine I have some hope

ornate ginkgo
elfin kindle
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the link in the chanel description is out dated

humble rover
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Serves me right for not testing this earlier 😂 Is there no FINISH option on V8?

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The mobile control is nice I guess

humble rover
#

🚨 One hour until folding month officially starts 🚨

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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Yey!

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
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@humble rover you aren't doing very well with these blogs haha

humble rover
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😅 am sleeping when they go up

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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We need to do folding month in January. We've had some really hot weather and I've had to stop folding 😦

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(periodically)

opal elbow
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Yeah 71 today. I was sweating quite a bit last night. ( 71 is very hot for November in northern New England )

ornate ginkgo
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No thanks, January is very busy for me, 12 birthdays, including my own in my immediate family. Then I have my yearly medical things, MRI, blood tests, sleep study, etc

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So January is out of the question

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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So you can't run f@h during January?

tulip osprey
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Sorry, I meant to write "a" folding month, not to say that this one needs to move or anything. I'll tough it out.

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but what about seeecond folding month in February 😉

tulip osprey
opal elbow
tulip osprey
#

Good thing I hadn't put away my portable AC unit

opal elbow
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We did a few weeks ago. Its was 22 the other day when I woke up. . . I dislike the heat

humble rover
dim dust
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
#

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2263-fmvii-day-seven-as-the-sun-sets-on-the-first-week-so-does-it-rise-on-the-second/

Linus Tech Tips
FMVII - Day Seven - As The Sun Sets On The First Week, So Does It R...

My name is Spec and I’m an Alcoholic… One moment, I’ve just been informed it is not actually Sunday and I’m not at AA. So…. anyway… Ladles and gentlespoons, this is the third time I’m writing this blog post. Have to say it’s getting a little repetitive for me. I’ve swapped back to writing the blo...

tulip osprey
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Gooooo me!

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🤣

ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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I wish this was true

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ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
winged stone
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What’s your folding machine?

humble rover
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A single 3080 because the pascal box is offline 🙂

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
humble rover
#

A lot of zeroes on the sheet...

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
simple tundra
#

can't believe I went so long without remembering november was folding month

smh I'm too late to sign up 😔

at least it gave me the motivation to finally set up folding again (been procrastinating for too long)

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
prime bronze
#

fondling gaaang 🔥

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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sorry, what?

tulip osprey
opal elbow
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I’m out here fighting for my life to stay in the top 50

ornate ginkgo
opal elbow
# ornate ginkgo you need more GPUs

There is a plan. Buying a new house this year then dedicated folding server in the new basement. Ima compete for the top 10 one day. Lost too many to cancer not too

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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3 4080's in a standard desktop rig (assuming you can find dual slot 4080's to fit) should get you pretty far up there in the rankings

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I think I was top 20 with a 4080, 3060ti, and 1080ti

opal elbow
opal elbow
hushed bobcat
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It was a big jump from 30 to 40

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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You think you could put 3 triple slot cards on your H11-SSL?

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Theoretically it should be possible

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Though you would need a case with 10 PCIE slots

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
#

I don't even know where I am on the rankings this year

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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I still have the bug in V8 where I can't get a work unit to download

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And I didn't want to reinstall V7

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So my 4080 is idle

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And I sold the 3060ti

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So I'm going on the 1080Ti only this time

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Truly the GOAT of gpus

ornate ginkgo
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That's fair

hushed bobcat
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V8 seems to work perfectly on Linux

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Though it was a pain to get configured via command line

ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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Look mom I'm on TV!

ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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Maybe unnecessary work to do, but I think it would have been nice with a column in the spreadsheet with days of activity until now.

hushed bobcat
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shrug

tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
humble rover
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

Dagnabbit, I cranked yesterday. Thought I'd bump up a rank

humble rover
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

If I maintain this pace, I should be able to pull up out of the 20s before the end of the event 😄

Currently, only TylerD321 appears to be a threat to my place

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
#

Climbed 25 spots yesterday

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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PLUS 2!!

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

I'll have to see if I can remember my forum login

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

okay... logged in, now to find tags

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

ohhh those kind of tags

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thank you ❤️

opal elbow
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I think folding for cancer is hurting my PPD. But I fold for cancer: so screw it

tulip osprey
#

I only fold for Alzheimer's. No idea if other things would be better

opal elbow
#

Kinda the same vibe

hushed bobcat
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i just leave mine on auto

fervent saddle
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are navi gpus supported yet or do i wait for longer to continue folding?

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i think they are, 853k points daily seemingly on my rx 6800

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up to 2.7m

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good to know

hushed bobcat
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they are, but nvidia is way more ppd/watt right now

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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nice, im hoping for top 100

fervent saddle
ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
ornate ginkgo
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I ran a VEGA64 and a 1080 back in the day

fervent saddle
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ok

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hmm do i steal the gpu?

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i mean it's technically my brother's now but only bc i gave it to him alsongside the entire setup

tulip osprey
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I think I need to dig out my RTX A2000 to see if I can get up over 30 million PPD and stay ahead od TylerD321

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Maybe I could use my wife's computer with her 7900GRE to fold at night...

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oh no! One of my machines isn't set to be folding for the team 😮

(My donor points/WU's for Nov are higher than what's showing in the spreadsheet)

timber swift
tulip osprey
#

I have 6 folding machines and 8 GPUs folding, now. I just remembered that I have a system with a 3600 and a 2070 Super, though, so it's soon to be 7 machines and 9 GPUs 😄

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
#

hmmnm.... I do have a laptop with an nvidia gpu in it. A 1650 I think

ornate ginkgo
#

well 800k-1.2m

tulip osprey
#

sheesh... super pesky today how I finally set up my F@H account and get my systems all running the latest client only to have them constantly get logged out...

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is this something that happens often, or is something up today?

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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I'm running v7 on windows and V8 on linux

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I don't get logged out of either

fervent saddle
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so i tell F@H to use full power by setting slider to full, but it does not? my max gpu power is 330w but it only draws 160 and max cpu is 160 but it ony draws 70, what is up? also if i set to medium it uses no cpu all gpu

ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
ornate ginkgo
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GPU is the only sensible option

fervent saddle
#

ok

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how do i set it to only run gpu?

ornate ginkgo
#

Are you using V7 or V8?

fervent saddle
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...how do i check? i downloaded this version a while ago

ornate ginkgo
#

Uhh...

ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
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of the web browser or advanced control?

ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
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ok

ornate ginkgo
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Click on configure, then on slots, highlight the CPU slot and press remove, then save

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fervent saddle
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kk

ornate ginkgo
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V8 has no advanced control app, that's how I knew btw.

fervent saddle
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ah, cool

ornate ginkgo
#

I quite like it on my Linux machine

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It's still got lots of bugs in the windows version

fervent saddle
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ok, seems to only have the gpu as an option, good

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and that's 330w!

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god my machine sounds like a server rack

ornate ginkgo
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You all sorted now?

fervent saddle
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seemingly, thanks!

ornate ginkgo
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Awesome, happy to help!

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BTW, pro tip, set your GPU fans to 100% and within a day you can just tune it out

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When it changes up and down you can't and it will drive you insane

humble rover
hushed bobcat
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oh yea i had those on my CPU cooler in my last build

ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
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i think it's a swft

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forgor💀

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adrenaline maxes out the power limit at ~223w, i used mpt to up the voltage to 1.2v and up wattage to a max of 345w, but unless i have the windows open and a fan sucking out hot air the thing overheats at that much power

hushed bobcat
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@ornate ginkgo looking at the daily stats i didnt start folding until day 9, im not qualified for this event am i?

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said 30 days and the event is 5 weeks

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that means at most you can miss 7 days

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
#

well atleast it has been good for testing my main rig stability

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before the event i swapped my 7950x for a 9800x3d and did a pretty quick overclock/undervolt

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it had been perfectly stable for several weeks, but folding fixed that on the first day

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lol

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so far ive only had 2 hard system freezes

fervent saddle
#

should i update to the newest version of fah?

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or is staying where i am fine?

hushed bobcat
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if you are on windows i cant recommend upgrading

fervent saddle
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ok

hushed bobcat
#

i cant get any WU on v8

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v7 works perfectly

fervent saddle
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sick

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might need to reinstall my v7 but otherwise we good

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it is ANCIENT

hushed bobcat
#

v8 is totally different

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they changed alot, so if you do upgrade sometime in the future be prepared

fervent saddle
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k, i'll probably stick with v7

hushed bobcat
pseudo abyss
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I use v8 fine on windows, but I don't like it's only browser gui

tulip osprey
#

I had issues with the default version (8.3.17) not auto-starting, so now I'm running 8.4.9, and it's pretty sweet!

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It has some good customization

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can drag and drop columns and have wide mode

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You can also look at all your work units

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I especially like how it estimates PPD

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fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
# hushed bobcat

do you just have like a server rack of a6000's crunching numbers or something?!

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22 MILLION

hushed bobcat
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meaning thats 1 card

fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
#

RTX 4080

fervent saddle
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ah

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yeah that'll do it

hushed bobcat
#

power limited to 85%

fervent saddle
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why? too hot?

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or efficiency?

hushed bobcat
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you get 95-99% the performance in folding while pulling 15% less power

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and yes less heat

hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
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ah

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cool

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so how many watts does it draw like that?

hushed bobcat
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when you fold for a long time you start to care about PPD/Watt instead of just bigger PPD numbers

fervent saddle
#

makes sense

hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
#

most for your money(or electricity bill ig) kinda thing

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hold on, 22 MILLION ppd at less than 300w?

hushed bobcat
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RTX 4000 series is really good

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like insanely good

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i have an old 1080 Ti in a Linux machine folding

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it does about 2 million PPD

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and pulls 225W

fervent saddle
#

that is crazy

hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
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i'm gonna try base settings for my card later today, see how many ppd it gets stock

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46th place...

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hmm

hushed bobcat
#

here is the 1080 Ti

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2.6 not bad

fervent saddle
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i wonder if it's genuinely bc of the way the 6800 is or if it's unoptimization of amd cards in general

hushed bobcat
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set at 215W right now

hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
#

since then nvidia just destroys AMD in compute

fervent saddle
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darn :/

hushed bobcat
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you should look at that link i posted

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here are the top 5 cards for AMD

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fervent saddle
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the rank database?

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i was just scrolling on it

hushed bobcat
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as you can see even the top 7900xtx, which is a very good and powerful card, that can trade blows with a 4080 in gaming

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can only manage 5-6 million PPD

fervent saddle
#

yeah, weird

hushed bobcat
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4080 is literally 4x more points

fervent saddle
#

is it really all the cuda cores?

hushed bobcat
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yep

fervent saddle
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wow

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if it wasn't for how ungodly expensive nvidia cards are nowadays, i'd grab a 4080

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seemingly the best i can do is a 4070

hushed bobcat
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according to the database you can match a 7900 xtx with a rtx 4060 Ti Super

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pullling around 165w

fervent saddle
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i'm trying to save for a 7900xt pulse, planning on watercooling it, might have to switch back to team green tho

fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
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its been like this for years

fervent saddle
#

cuda cores go CRAZY

hushed bobcat
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i think its just compute in general

fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
#

you dont really hear about AMD GPUs in the datacenter, atleast as far as i know

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you heard of Intel GPUs?

fervent saddle
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oh those?

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i heard they SUCK

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makes sense, they're built by a cpu manufacturer, ain't perfect first try

hushed bobcat
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actually they are really good now

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for the price

fervent saddle
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they are?

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oh, cool

hushed bobcat
#

over the last year they increased performance in some games by like 400% with driver updates

fervent saddle
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wow!

hushed bobcat
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but i mention this to say dont get one and try to fold on it

fervent saddle
#

does it brick the card or something? or does it just not work?

hushed bobcat
#

https://community.intel.com/t5/Intel-ARC-Graphics/Folding-Home-on-Intel-Arc-Fixable-by-driver-update-or-impossible/td-p/1552038

Folding@Home on Intel Arc: Fixable by driver update, or impossible ...

I'd really like to be able to use my A750 for Folding@home, especially in the winter when I'm paying for heating anyways, so I might as well be doing something productive with the electricity instead of just resistive heating. I am aware that Folding@home requires double precision float support in o...

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Intel ARC GPUs cant do double precision calculations

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so they cant fold at all

fervent saddle
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oof

hushed bobcat
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getting slightly off topic but you should check this out

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atleast the conclusion

fervent saddle
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will do

hushed bobcat
#

fact you can pick one up for 200-$300 is very appealiing

fervent saddle
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i'm conflicted now, do i go back to team green and get something like a rog 4070 super, or stick with red and grab a 7900xt pulse?

hushed bobcat
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cause you could put 2 or 3 in a system for the price of one 4070 or 4080

hushed bobcat
fervent saddle
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right

hushed bobcat
#

i have a pc in the house running a GTX 970, im going to look at 5000 series and depending on the performance either get a 5060 or if the performance isnt that good get a 4060 Ti on the cheap

fervent saddle
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one helluva upgrade

hushed bobcat
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also been hearing about the next gen Intel GPUs

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going to watch that pretty close

fervent saddle
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yeah, gonna stick with red, might not be as good for folding but the gaming's better than a price-equivalent nvidia card.

hushed bobcat
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if they can just make them fold id buy one

fervent saddle
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you are really dedicated to this cause, aren't you?

hushed bobcat
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its fun

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ive been folding off and on since 2007

fervent saddle
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number one: folding is that old?

hushed bobcat
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folded on a PS3 and core 2 duo with 8600 GT

fervent saddle
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number two: YOU'VE BEEN FOLDING FOR LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ALIVE?!

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the dedication is admirable

hushed bobcat
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i stopped for like 12 years

fervent saddle
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fair

hushed bobcat
#

only really got back into it for the COVID research

fervent saddle
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checks out

hushed bobcat
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LTT actually broke folding at home during the COVID research

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i was doing some wonky stuff, hang on i think i have a picture of a setup i was running

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i bought an old dual cpu socket server motherboard and crammed it full of as many cards as i could

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2 of the cards were old mining cards (P106-90) and the one in the middle was a GTX 660 Ti

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that system DRANK power and honestly didnt get a whole lot done, but it was something

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i cant recall exactly but i think that system would pull 400w under full load and put out around 1 mil ppd

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but during the height of COVID you couldnt get any new computer hardware at all, so being thrifty i bought old Pascal series mining cards nobody wanted anymore

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turns out old mining cards were really good at folding because folding doesnt care if you dont have a video output

fervent saddle
hushed bobcat
#

correct LTT hosted a WU server for awhile

fervent saddle
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what happened to it?

hushed bobcat
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pretty sure they dont anymore

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@ornate ginkgo might have some more info but i think they had network or security issues with it on their network?

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im really not sure but i feel like i heard that in passing on one of there videos

fervent saddle
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that makes sense, a 5gig connection directly to them seems a bit vulnerable

ornate ginkgo
fervent saddle
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figures

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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im actually surprised its holding up so well with this event

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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usually we get WU starved

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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very nice

ornate ginkgo
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Also, there are 1.4m CPU WUs outstanding atm, so after the event consider leading your CPU folding if you plan to stop GPU folding, maybe just over night or so

hushed bobcat
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ive been catching up on all the blogs, have we figured out what kev is doing to get 340mil ppd?

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i think its implied hes renting a cuda rack?

ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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AWS huh

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i would 100% do that for a folding event

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except i have no idea how

ornate ginkgo
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He wrote a guide, but published it on his own blog and tried to advertise the blog and got the link deleted

hushed bobcat
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i just did a google search and only came up with some stuff wrtten 4 years ago

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i cant even tell if hes using CPU compute only

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i highly doubt it with those numbers

ornate ginkgo
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Yeah, he's running GPUs

hushed bobcat
#

according to the website a single H100 would be something like $470 a week?

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ohh they have a much cheaper option

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yea at the current rate it would be $58.80 a week

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very true

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however ive been looking into a dedicated folding rig for awhile now

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so ive already been in the mindset of spending probably $2000 on hardware just to fold on

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of course so far i havent had the spare cash to actually pull that off

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but it is something i would like to do eventually

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well at the numbers hes running you would need 11 4090's roughly

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if you power limited them to around 90% that would be about 400 watts per card

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so 4400 watts, plus the rest of the system ( or in this case 2 systems at a minimum)

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so you would need a dedicated 240v circuit (for american setups) plus enough capital that you could buy a cheap car

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we actually did a bunch of testing on this and i found depending on how much power the card had you needed quite a bit of PCIE bandwidth

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atleast a PCIE3.0 slot at 4x

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PCE 4.0 or 8x is much better

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you "could" run several cards off m.2 to PCIE slot expanders

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my setup would have an EPYC CPU with 7 PCIE slots

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each one would be 8x or 16x directly to the CPU

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course if you want 7 cards in 1 system you would have to watercool them to get them down to single slot

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or use remote pice extensions

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as far as i know HEDT is basically dead

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both Intel and AMD

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threadripper would be the king if AMD hadnt made it uselessly expensive

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here is the PCIE layout on the board i would use

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personally i think the best folding rig for numbers, that isnt totally ridiculous, would be an AMD 7950x (or 9950x) with 3 4070 Ti Supers or 4080's

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Spectrum mentioned a few days ago on here that there are no air cooled 4080 dual slot cards, so you would have to do either water cooling or remote mount 1 of them to get 3 on 1 board

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but the power draw would be around 1000-1200w

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which is alot, but doable on 1 power supply and 1 120v circuit in the average american household

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and that would net you somewhere between 60-68 million PPD

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which in this event would probably barely put you in the top 10 contributors

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which considering that system would cost somewhere around $3600-$4000 is kinda ridiculous

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3x 4070ti supers would be roughly 45mil

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plus i think you can squeeze 1 mil out of the CPU

hushed bobcat
ornate ginkgo
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I wish I had more money, would 100% build some rigs and colo them

tulip osprey
tulip osprey
# hushed bobcat AWS huh

There are guides and docker images to fold on vast.ai. I may or may not have just rented two 4090Ds for a day to jump ahead a bit

ornate ginkgo
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I mean there is the middle ground of hosting your hardware in a colo, would be cheaper than paying for the power in most western countries

tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
tulip osprey
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Dagnabbit... TylerD is definitely not "out of gas" like he said he was

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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I'm cheating and using rented 4090s 😄

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just for a few days though

ornate ginkgo
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I have a Quadro P4000, GTX 1080, or some mining card I bought to play with. The 1080 is the highest PPD but the P4000 would be easiest to get running

tulip osprey
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you know... I literally have both those cards as well 😮

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hmmmmmmmmm

ornate ginkgo
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If I had the second EPYC chip I could just throw the card in Foldatron, but the bottom slot doesn't work without the second chip

tulip osprey
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I got an HP Z440 for $55 that could house two cards...

ornate ginkgo
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Partly because I couldn't afford ram, so would only be running half the channels and partly because her phone stopped getting security updates in 2017 and she has had some questionable bank fraud happen in multiple times in the last year

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no idea if related, but yeah

tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
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ayee

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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Wow! I most have had some golden WUs yesterday! 95m points 😮

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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Maybe so it is 5 even weeks?

humble rover
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To make it fair in case some users miss a day or two

ornate ginkgo
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If you ever have any questions then please feel free to tag me.

Orginally it was the month, but I got annoyed with not ending on a full week, so I asked the community to vote on either a 4 week or 5 week event, and well yknow they voted for 5 weeks. So that's what we have been doing for five years

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Same goes for anyone else, if you see a question I can answer, please feel free to tag me

opal elbow
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I hit triple last nears number yesterday!

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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I turned off the 4090s I had rented 🙂 I'll probably be sitting in the mid 30m range for the rest of the challenger.,

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5463 :: 050 :: Statement :: though I'm tempted to rent again to get over 1 billion

hushed bobcat
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ive had my window wide open for the last week, its been as low as 22f outside

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this has been my room temp

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lol

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im legitimately thinking next year i need to get one of those window vent things with a tube (like what floor standing portable AC units use) and just pipe that into the front of my PC

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so it can suck the 20F air straight in, warm it up, and exhaust it into my room lol

ornate ginkgo
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They are pretty cheap too

tulip osprey
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Kinda tempted to rent some gpus again just for a day or so. Then I could crack 1 billion 😄

ornate ginkgo
tulip osprey
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Does the competition end tonight at midnight GMT?

ornate ginkgo
pseudo abyss
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I think it is: (Should count down)
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ornate ginkgo
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https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2291-fmvii-day-thirty-four-this-isnt-the-end-its-just-a-new-beginning/

Linus Tech Tips
FMVII - Day Thirty Four - This Isn't The End; It's Just A New Begin...

I have to say, this event has been one of my favourites, it has gone quickly, hasn’t been particularly stressful, no one’s username broke the script and I have not missed a single blog post, which is not something that I can say about past events. This has been a really great event in all honesty...

hushed bobcat
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been watching the LTT videos and see the thing about AMD's new ROCm stuff

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supposed to be the CUDA AMD equivalent, think FAH will support this? and how much of a boost would this give AMD cards?

tulip osprey
ornate ginkgo
# hushed bobcat supposed to be the CUDA AMD equivalent, think FAH will support this? and how muc...

Yes it's being worked on, AMD HIP support is expected in the first half of next year, (hopefully) and should see significant increases in the speed of AMD cards performing folding at home sims.

It's been in the works for a while, but seeing as it needs an entire rewrite of the Folding-Core software, it has taken some time.

CUDA support for folding was done by Nvidia themselves during the covid pandemic which is why it only took a month or so

hushed bobcat
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nice

humble rover
hushed bobcat
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none for me

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weep

pseudo abyss
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Same, I already have the badges I qualify for. I have a badge I don't qualify for because they changed the limits.

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If there ends up being 10 folding months in total, there should be a badge for 10 events, in my opinion

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Or maybe at 12

opal elbow
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One more for the next badge. And hopefully I can clear 2.5 B in the next 3 months and snag that level

ornate ginkgo
arctic cloak
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WCG is down rn

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and it will be for quite a while it seems

tulip osprey
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I need a t-shirt that says "I folded 1 Billion points and all I got was the 'Folding Event Newbie' badge." 🤣

ornate ginkgo
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And so ends this event, and announcement of the next on in the same blog

humble rover
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🥳 1 of 149!

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dim dust
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I know you guys don't pay too much attention to the BOINC community/events, but a team got caught cheating on a project during a Formula-BOINC Sprint over the weekend.

hushed bobcat
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im a couple days late but we got a shoutout on WAN show

ornate ginkgo
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I did write a pre-event update for WAN show but it didn't get out this year, it happens

crystal parcel
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Hello everyone

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I have a question about using ROCm in Scientific calculation (Computational chemistry, ML/DL, simulation and so on)

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My question is I want to develop the software that can use for Nvidia, AMD, and Intel GPU for easy to use, which learning source should I go for?

ornate ginkgo
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It's like asking someone who uses windows how to code an Operating System, we just don't know, for the most part because we don't need to know

ornate ginkgo
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I just wanted to share my milestone with everyone and anyone I can, so here's a link https://linustechtips.com/status/349944/

Linus Tech Tips
I can't believe I made it this far, b…

I can't believe I made it this far, but step by step, day by day, I think things are gonna be okay. One day was the drink, and the next I had a think. It feels like it's was just a blink. But now I'm sober thanks to my broker. Trading not in financial instruments, in mental medicaments. Thanks to...

frosty drift
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
hushed bobcat
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Link goes to a comment that claims B series supports double precision FP

ornate ginkgo
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p12704 (109k Atoms) - TPF

Radeon VII - 46s

7900xtx - 20s

gtx1070 - 60s

gtx980 - 1m 23s

Intel Arc B580 - 44-45s

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So we are looking at around 1.8m-2.2m PPD @hushed bobcat

hushed bobcat
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I don't use forums at all really

ornate ginkgo
dim dust
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Finally got my 9654 rig to boot. Been running some preliminary benchmarks/projects on it to see what it can do. Loving it so far.

formal stump
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I just upgraded my folding client from 7.6.something to 8.3 on my laptop and desktop.
Now it's saying loading on my desktop in the client when trying to connect to my laptop, and it also hasn't automatically added my desktop to my account like they say it should in the guide.

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How do I get it to A) Connect to my laptop so I can monitor it's folding progression, B), get my desktop to fold and add to my account, and C) Get my laptop to fold on the dGPU when it is enabled for folding in the settings.
Both my devices are connected to the same Wifi network, and are\ on the same user account

ornate ginkgo
formal stump
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Yes

ornate ginkgo
formal stump
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When I logged in this morning though my laptop was showing on my desktop but not the other way.

formal stump
ornate ginkgo
ornate ginkgo
formal stump
ornate ginkgo
formal stump
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And from laptop to desktop

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ornate ginkgo
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Although....

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The V8 client should work regardless

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Have you signed in with a Folding Account on both, not just your name and passkey, but the optional extra sigh in

formal stump
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Would that be the token?
That is autofilled on both

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And they are the same on both

ornate ginkgo
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It's midnight here so I gotta sleep, hopefully someone can help you out? @hushed bobcat @humble rover @pseudo abyss

Anyone familar with the V8 folding client?

formal stump
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Ok, thanks for trying to fix the problem, have a merry Christmas if I don't see / hear from you again!

ornate ginkgo
formal stump
hushed bobcat
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I'll look at it when I get home

hushed bobcat
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it should link with the passkey and token inputted

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might be worth generating a new account token and copying it to both

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then restart both machines

formal stump
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Ok, thanks, I'll give that a try and let you know.

silent juniper
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hello people, i have a question

i am trying to set up folding@home on ubuntu server on a machine that is currently barely being used. It does have a 1660 super that i am fine with to use, but i cant access the settings stuff even after following this guide give or take (editing fahclient to fah-client and using systemctl to restart the service etc)
https://ashpex.net/2020/04/install-and-configure-fah/
but it doesnt work for me

~/ashpex
Install and Configure Remotely control for Folding@home

Folding@home is a distributed computing project started by Stanford University to help understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases. The project uses the idle processing resources of thousands of personal computers belonging to people that have installed the Folding@home software on their systems. In this post I will describe how...

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yep it do be working now

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hushed bobcat
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yea i had problems getting my 8.3 working on ubuntu server

silent juniper
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so once i followed multiple guides and applied a bit of common sense (the name changed somewhere from fahclient to fah-client) It Worked™️

simple tundra
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Welp, somehow managed to reach top 10k. Didn't imagine I'd get this far with only a single 3080.

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and yeah, it really doesn't matter much if you look at the bigger picture, but I like to believe every bit helps.

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dull stratus
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way more than me, lol

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my little plex server has been humming along with folding going since about the time the bread role was made here and I've done a fraction of that but it's just an old amd apu