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Yeah it should start in the next 15ish minutes or so, not sure where you are, I just remember it’s usually about 1:15am for me in the UK
Does BC not do DST?
timeanddate.com says that parts of BC are not observing DST in 2021. https://www.timeanddate.com/time/change/canada/british-columbia
I learned something today. Mission accomplished
I feel like everyone should either abolish it or participate. I don't fee like the latter is possible in places that never had it.
It should be abolished, outlawed and setting your clock to anything but blinking 12:00 should be illegal.
1 VCR to rule them all
I mean, I get that it is easier for people's perception of time to have 7AM look the same outside based on the position of the sun... but as far as logging goes, everything should be in UTC+-0 for simplicity
I don’t think the LTT gang are in the areas that don’t use it looking at the exceptions
Yes and it should be 24 hour style time too. None of the AM PM garbage.
Lol, nope. They are just perpetually late.
Luke’s bird probs running the show today
Friggin PST/PDT, get lost with that stuff.
Agreed. 24H time format is an international standard.
It's bad enough that most Americans (and Canadians, I guess) don't know the difference between PDT and PST, and say PST when they mean PDT.
Luke's bird 2022
you should all switch to GMT+0 and commit to night-dwelling
it might ruin your whole society, but it'll make it easier for me to post super chats
They dont even have to be night-dwelling. Your office hours just become say... 2am to 10am.
@sonic jackal hold my beer
This would make that country song "shift work" entirely irrelevant
i'm not saying there aren't downsides...
Downsides are a myth.
Downsides are fake new bc they're impossible
Bread is pain
(if you get this reference we should be besties)
when's the show? (sorry if this has been asked 1 million times already)
Anyone's guess, as usual 😉
69 o'clock probably
Nice.
Aren’t downsides just the happy things for people on the other side of the equator?
I didn't get the reference.
Too bad. I guess we can't be best friends...
fuck sake
Although I like your profile pic
Going to get a coffee
Lmao
Thank you for your sacrifice
- bows *
Also I gotta say, as silly as we're being in here atm, it's quite refreshing having positive energy in chat. Spending too much time in public-chat lately

Not yet. I prefer Twitch anyway. It's generally like 30-45 seconds ahead of YT, at least for me
the show hasnt started yet. They dont go live on YT until the show 'starts'
I prefer YT because my smart TV doesn’t have a twitch app if thats even a thing
They just yak on on Twitch for a period before the show starts properl
Is it just me or is the audio a little low?
it's just you
ok i get it now
OK.
havent watched live before
actually no, you're right, it is a bit low, I had volume all the way up
yeap, peaking about about -20db on my playback.
twitch volume max, windows default device (voicemeeter input) volume at 100, and all my levels in VM set at 0db.
okay, they're talking about starting... ;p
Wrong link
but its live
... apparently
no, that was the right link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_DOqdyZEG0
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My stream froze and they had some real derpy faces.
For the record, it's a song by Steel Panther. You have to watch the music video for the reference (Sarah Silverman). Please forego looking them up if you are offended by lewd content.
Minutes That WAN show is late https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_cgJfX-wLIOirEYsTlE9bMl5eBahHNklIqdNgVeyVZw/edit?usp=sharing
doesn't know how to use own website
lololol
I think it has to be determined instead of determent
we could use a lateness dataset to determine the average time it is late (or use a neural network incorporate other factors)
then we minus that time from the start time and spam COLTON FIRE LINUS that time before 
or just make a predictive bot for how late
yes, yo are right my fellow dutchman. thanks it has been changed
Can I have the Luke's bugged face x3
I'm a little behind on the VODS for wan show, have they talked about the shenanigans going on with freenode?
Not sure if it is worth reporting on. But I made a post on LTT forums about a current, repeatable, and ongoing exploit being used on Walmart.com for high-demand items by 3rd part sellers. I have tried reporting it to Walmart. But they don't seem to care, would really like this exploit fixed. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1341611-repeatable-walmart-website-exploit-being-abused/
Not sure if anyone will care. But there is currently a web security flaw on Walmarts website that allows 3rd party sellers to bypass inventory verification on products and change the price of items on the final validation screen. How does it work? First the seller lists items for way above MSRP, ...
screw Walmart, should close the place down
Wow, that is a really toxic conversation thread
right?
i dont go on the forum very often anymore but i expected better from our ltt brothers
Okay wow, that is - that is unusually very toxic for a forum thread
Even the mod that chimed in had a pretty toxic and bad take. Apparently people scrambling as fast as they can to buy an Xbox not expecting to get ripped off with a bait and switch at literally the last second on a supposedly legitimate website like Walmart are "bad people"...
Lmao got a Walmart ad at the end of the thread 😂
But I completely agree with your take OP, really confused why people are so toxic on that thread...really seems like they're all super salty at...idk, people that take the time out of their day to try to buy hard-to-get items from retailers?
for perspective, i look at the numbers multiple times at every step when checking out in a super ocd anxiety way and i in no way think someone is dumb for not noticing it at the very last second on the last page when its said the right amount on multiple other pages/steps 😄
the people saying that i bet dont even look at the final step
and would just as easily fall for it
especially when stock runs out in a matter of seconds many times
The Walmart....... They're watching......
is WAN show 50 minutes late or am i being a dumb dumb
They run on metric time which doesn't recognize DST time changes
If you like, I can share a derpy screenshot from last week's show when my stream buffered. Looks like Moe when he pauses a video and makes a derpy face
Dying for someone to caption this.
makes sense, although I dont believe metric time is a thing
Not, it's not. I was just poking fun at how stupid changing clocks is. Lol
we on
For real? I can't find it on twitch or YT.
its live twitch
Just got the notify. Thanks peeps
Nope, no PCIe 5.0 on AM5 contrary to what Linus said just now: https://www.techpowerup.com/282532/amd-socket-am5-an-lga-of-1-718-pins-with-ddr5-and-pcie-gen-4
Oh yay, it got a correction!
A reliable source with AMD and NVIDIA leaks, ExecutableFix has shared some interesting bits of early information on AMD's next-generation Socket AM5. Apparently this will be AMD's first mainstream-desktop socket that does away with pins on the processor package, shifting them to the motherboard, in ...
lol, so I actually have both and more of the dual-socket/slot boards he's talked about in my garage right now.
I have an A8N-SLI, An ECS K7S5A, and an ASRock 939-Dual SATA2 just lying around.
lol last weeks wan just posted on floatplane XD
he got reminded thats why
PCIe 6.0 is going to be the real game changer
solid gold motherboard?
252GB/s at 16x, forward error correction
The crazy thing is they're going for a PCIe 6.0 spec in 2022
Couple that with the DDR5 standard including ECC
I think we will see overall desktop system stability improve drastically
Interestingly even though PCIe 4, 5 and 6 are all coming in fast succession, a google search for "PCI Express 7.0" returns basically nothing.
we are like on the edge of a cliff with a global fascist government, its pretty scary, and the pandemic has been good cover for lots of nefarious agendas
And yet in nearly every country 50% of people will vote for these groups.
its upsetting to say the least -_-
PCI-SIG might announce PCIe 7.0 this year. PCIe 5.0 was announced in June 2017, PCIe 6.0 was announced in June 2019
So if that 2 year cadence continues...
That's pretty quick for such a significant signalling protocol and change.
testing, tooling, and other backend tech making these newer bits of hardware possible are largely responsible
And IT people everywhere rejoiced
hey Linus I am in the market for a new gpu i need help and i am in australia so i cant do the verified actual gamer program pls help
eh? There's no shortage of cards here, you can get them if you want them. What are you after?
there is
the prices are up gods ass
and if i take pc part picker and put them on australia there were no good graphics card
That's the wholesaler's pricing.
'no good graphics cards' - what are you after? I was literally able to buy both a 3070 and 3080 the other day if I wanted one, and was standing in front of a shelf of 20 actual 3060 and 3060Ti cards the other day in Centrecom - cards, not just empty boxes.
we still have a shortage i look a rtx 3060 was 700 dollars a month ago now its 1200
lol no it was not.
pc part picker
the rtx3060 was never 700 in Australia.
no. Just ... no, stop making shit up.
Firstly, that's 400 USD. Ex-tax. And then, they were always slightly more in Aus, even the 3070s.
And that's FE prices, which NONE of the third-party cards matched.
Officially, Nvidia has confirmed to Kotaku Australia that the RTX 3060 has a MSRP of $529 in Australia, and $NZ609 in New Zealand.
Scorptec literally have stock of 3060s right now.
i'm in sydney
We have this thing called AustraliaPost.
prices are different
no, they really aren't.
So your whinge is basically that you can only get a card from retaillers in Sydney when it's the distributors who are charging more on a product which has had its pricing increased since its launch months ago?
it is a global issue
No. A gt710 WAS that price years ago.
thank u ik
Your complaint is like having a sook that the Nintendo Switch is still/now 469 when you could get it in December 2017 for 339.
this guy knows what i am talking about
seriously people are buying (sold listings ebay etc) gtx 770s for more than i could of flipped a 10 series card last year 😅
bro why would i want a switch ur the one who has a sooty profile pic
yes - I can sell my 1070 today on eBay for more than I paid in October 2016
Course I'm not going to do that it makes more than my power bill from mining on it.
ull be a scalper
i know people that want to that... except they would then need another gpu in xD
lol, that's not what scalping is, holy crap man.
dont be a miner
brb
So basically your whinge comes down to "I don't want to play the market price for products".
no more scrapyard wars 💀
scrapyard wars?
they used to bang for buck builds haggling for bits and competing for best... though now would be hilarous/sad
yeah lmao
oh you mean like Swap Meets?
theyd be getting like gtx 580s in 2021
because everything else would be too expensive 
no its a series ltt did
like a pc build-off
who can build the best pc
was looking forward to another one
ah. I've seen a few of those I think, just didn't recognise the name.
or spending 1k plus for a meh build
linus read my super chat about the discord rebrand 
but idk why theyd cancel it outright
just wait till after the shortage
they just think the format has expired
I'd like to see a "junkyard" Scrapyard wars; they have to buy only broken components (cpu with bent pins, graphics card with dead video out) and they have to fix them and build in the budget (new caps, solder, etc).
though now would probably interesting for the wrong reasons
but it hasnt
they could do so much
like now they could do an ultra low budget one for example
see what you can get for like $100 or something
lga1155 and stuff would be in that area
intel iGPU. RIP 
uk minning bust
help me i need a new gpu for my first build
as in economically or the one they found?
and yeah many do at this point :/
then perish
i think it has ben establoshed previously they ignore this 99% of the time
but we all need a gpu
oh i just joined
ye superchats seem to be the only way to get on
even then not really
they get a lot not all a read, and youtube forgets a few
and forget about twitch, floatplane is poss only way in a way
they also I think now with verified actual gamer only use that for fairness
if you need a new gpu I'd highly suggest buying used and staying in the low low end, the prices arent too inflated there
or getting a cpu that has an igpu
hmmm. dead?
its aud
no way you get one of those for 120 aud
i succeeded in getting a 470 for someone last year and it wasy very very dead.
u sure
its either dead or a scam
or both :/
yeah its dead
Is there an audio only version of the wan show?
imma just get a 1050ti as a placeholder
sometimes sellers list either dead ones (for parts), or just have no clue what their selling (in my case was that)
like more podcast style
that may do quite well for a games
i think they complain about the itunes version somehow existing so yes???
do you gotta pay for that
¯_(ツ)_/¯
just put it on youtube and switch tabs 
Dont think its live though if thats what your after. Twitch had audio only i think as a general setting
nope 1050ti is minimum 299 aud
I want to have a podcasting app so i can just do other stuff on my phone whilst i listen to wan show

thats insane
like I said youve gotta go ultra low budget gamer
Twitch audio may be best though notifications are garbo so generally gave up xD
yeah but i wanna go team red and not many good cpus from amd have igpus
i like the R5 240
great price to performance in its bracket
like the $10-20 usd range
its great compared to other things around that price like the hd 6450
when your going budget dont worry too much about intel or amd just whichever gets u cheaper
They do... But also heard they wrre being scalped to be not good value so actually new intel ones are somehow better!. And AMD new ones will probably be in short supply with silicon issues rn
imma just stay with the gtx 750 in my laptop
3600
is cheap
No integrated yeah but is decent
You could get the cpu part of the build but for thst would need some el cheapo gpu to go with..but the 750 may be easier to get by with 😒
jeez even the rx 460 is going for like $100+ usd
theres an oem looking rx 550 for $84 usd
The Radeon R5 340X is a cheap GPU that seems to have avoided super inflated prices, but there is probably an obvious reason for that. I paid just £20 ($28) for this graphics card and today we're going to see if it can actually play any games.
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1:33 Fallout 4
2:35 Fortnite
3:32 GTA V
4:36 Overwatch
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340x might not be too bad either
at ;least its a display out! but doubt if its better than a 750 if thats the aim (EDIT yeah probably no contest is worse)
Can anybody tell me what video is Luke referring to when he says "You should watch it" ?https://youtu.be/27DE26j5n8w?t=3897
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Yeah that seems to be the one. Thanks!
I think the next WAN show should test out Discord's Stage Channel, since luke and linus already use Discord for the show
yea
Doesn't support screen sharing or camera, so currently not possible.
Jesus, the bot is sentient!
Always has been
Please Canadian skynet, fix the pings for wan show going live...
Also here wondering just that
late as always
LMG wan show paper launch!!!!
usually for good reasons but still annoying 
naw im good with it i just got home from work i usually miss the first half anyways
Live on Twitch
Live on YouTube!
when they change to the sponsers the luke and linus avatars lose the beards...
advertiser friendly
'Nvidia doesn't manufacture anything' Linus, you're a dumbass
nobody makes anything by that logic
Apple doesn't make iPhones
GM doesn't make cares
Tim Hortons doesn't make double doubles
well his take is not wrong for msrp
If you think Linus is a dumbass for his take, you should take a look in the mirror lmao
His take is good, but salty gamers saying "NVIDIA didn't literally GIFT me a card so I'm pissed."
NVIDIA doesn't owe you anything
NVIDIA is not indebted to you
yeah I mean compare to the 3090 price atm if you can get one that 3080ti wasn't bad for that price
They're running a business, and the $1200 price tag aligns pretty well with the current market
Exactly. 3090's are going for $2200-3000 USD right now
3090 performance for $1200-1400? Sign me the F up
and clearly making a 3080 from the bad 3090, that's losing money no?
"But, it's only 10% faster than the 3080 at 2x the price!"
No, it's 2x the MSRP. Go find a 3080 at MSRP. I dare you.
The whole argument is so dumb lol
Frankly, Steve's take was ass cheeks. Steve doesn't understand the current market.
no it's making money out of a chip that would be scrapped if they didn't make anything out of it and it can't qualify to make a 3090
just because he's right doesn't mean his point isn't dumb
You simply can't get a 3080 at MSRP
I have no idea what's going on
that point he made about MSRP. every other industry has this figured out
They'd be losing money if they didn't do something with it. They'd be losing even more money if they just dropped it to a 3080 price.
I mean..... isn't the Ti about the same price as the scalped 3080s?
Less
3080's are going for $1500-2000 right now.
my online retailer in EU has a lot of amd graphic card in stock while the nvidia are gone pretty fast but the 6700xt are at 2.5-3 times the msrp and the 6900xt can go to 2700€ or 3300$
I think I saw a 3080 for $2200 earlier today
yikes
exactly ... cutting them down further to make 3080 would be kinda dumb if the chip can do better than 3080 but not enough for 3090
I don't even care about Nvidia... I just want someone to give me a damn AMD card that's on the same level as my 1060
I'll buy it fucking used, I just want to get rid of my 1060
worse part is the retailer pricing is high not just the scalper prices
I wouldn't say it's that high when buying direct
rx580, rx5500xt ... look for those
mid range graphics card seems to have disappeared
you need to go for older card for that
They're all in the $1000s <_>
of course ... cause price are crazy right now ...
look in your local market, not on ebay
I saw some 1660 super at crazy price too and new
I bought a 3060 off the EVGA queue for $450 and could sell it for $900 right now easily
same
@woeful charm How?
the whole market is f'ed and people don't seem to understand that
Because that's what they're selling for
but here with exchange rate it as about 625 $
Oh..
I'm still in queue for a 3060 from evga, I would buy an 6700xt but the price is ridiculous
600 is still way too much
who wants a last Gen AMD card XD
processors are pretty close to msrp at the moment
My exact card going for over $1000
Someone who wants to fucking yeet their Nvidia card
And not a "buy it now" sale, either. People are BIDDING on that
I fucking hate Nvidia
That's how big the demand is
trust me, whatever reason you hate Nvidia for, you'll have the same problem with AMD XD
exactly. AMD isn't any different
Nvidia sucks on Linux
I've tried literally everything to get it working
Remember when they said that their cards wouldn't be a paper launch? 😂
Linux sucks for most things
besides hacking lol
I've been using Linux full time for about 2 years now
Works fine... other than my GPU being a complete ass-hat >_>
AMD drivers on Linux run alot better than Nvidia
@twilit finch i'm rocking a GTX 970 in Debian 10, hmu later and i'll give you some tips
Considering Nvidia doesn't even support Linux >_>
it's def doable
I'd buy the 3080 Ti for MSRP if it was available
I used linux for 4 years back in the days ... like 15 years + ago ... i had mandriva back then
the 3080 was at 725€ at launch msrp that's crazy
My laptop's got an intel apu and it runs a hell of alot better than my desktop with a 1060 6gb >_>
I expect GPU prices to continue to go up as computer part prices increases get passed on to the consumer
You can thank the chip shortage for that
yup
Which is unfortunate
Couldn't be happier with the VAG Program. It's the only reason I was able to get a 5900x and 3070 to build a much needed new rig. Big thanks to the LTT and Float Plane teams
even with the shortage you know the different companies are making lots of money from that
it's worldwide well almost
Well of course. Demand is up
I'm obviously not an expert, but I'm pretty sure it is/was world wide. If you can purchase from lttstore you could get one
It is?
Demand is high with supply being extremely low, prices are gonna go up and companies are still gonna make money
The margin is less
you have to pay the shipping and maybe some taxes when it arrives depending on your country
Are they still doing it?
Oh..
I'm not sure they have any supply right now
Idk if I can even get it in the US... I think they got them damn tariffs from the last administration still in effect
I was too slow twice on the quizz to buy a gpu and I missed the video with the cpu one
new ones are coming too 😬
MORE TARIFFS?!
US tariffs aren't LTTs fault though lol
I know.. don't remind me
I'm still pissed off about that
New product stock or?
I had a simple order from Ali jump up from $5 to $40 because of the tariffs -.-
hmm you can't use the name of the president in chat that's weird
@amber stirrup I don't think you can send links
You can't?
Oh, sure can't
I can't say the current presidents name lol
I was filtered
Not supposed to talk about politics I think is why, so it's filtered
but yeah good that guys name and tariffs
So sadly I have my doubts the tariffs will go away which absolutely sucks
Yeah.. especially with the way they were thrown into effect -.-
do the government make money out of it ? ... if yes then it most likely will stay for a while sadly
I don't think they do.... it actually cost businesses more money
Because all the goods being imported gets hiked
Which is literally everything in the US
the tech companies have been using cheap oversee labor for years or decade and suddenly it became a problem
who is getting the cash ...
Companies pay tariffs to the government... Also, think this is starting to get too political
Exactly
Yeah tariffs are basically a tax
indeed
Pretty much.. since nearly everything that gets imported comes from overseas
yeah tax is like a bad word in the US for some reason...
Basically sales tax payed by the company instead of you
but of course it gets passed on so you pay it anyways just in the price
But then the companies pass the tax onto the consumer, so it's like a special extra tax they don't tell people about
Yep, beat me right to it
we're used to tax here ...
haha yup
I have no qualms about taxes.. I have issues when we throw just random ass tariffs that no company is going to pay for anyway, and it'll just get forced onto the costumer to pay
it will never make those big companies make things in western countries instead, everything would be way more expensive and less profitable for them
This
Which makes them even more not want to make jobs in the country
yeah basically it just screw us
And like.. Can you really blame them companies for it??
Like, I've been just trying to start my Etsy shop, but shipping costs so damn much
I can't even ship <_>
well I feel like people buy at whatever price for a few years so a lot of stuff has at a big price increase
I can't even open the shop because of it too <_>
My current GPU is currently selling on ebay for what I bought it for new which is stupid
a corporations job is to generate revenue. not provide us luxury products at cost
Same
@amber stirrup mine is selling way over what i paid for it
If I can find another GPU.. I'd be really tempted to sell mine xD
I have a HD5500 not sure I could sell that one^^
I'm not planning on upgrading until supply goes back to normal because I don't need an upgrade as much as others
Same..
Mine is still great I just would like RTX
But I wish my 1060 worked better with my OS >.<
5700xt 0day @ msrp ....... pro invester i wish i had bought a pallet
Linux?
Yeah, running Manjaro KDE
haha I run Linux as well
If only Nvidia cared...
FOMO has been brought to higher levels by smart phones sales. Show me a good phone that allows you to add whatever type of computing/graphics you want as incremental upgrades.
Yeah it's a big pain
Because it works fine, other than the screen tearing on my browser
Even got alot of my games working on Linux with either native support or Proton
oh it's an hd5770 I have on a shelf....
I have almost everything working as well which is neat
Oh lmao
I just found a Radeon X300...
The one that used to be ATI

heh graphic cards used to be wild
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This ancient ass card
well that used to be mid range graphic cards for 250-300
I saw an AGP graphic card new on amazon not that long ago
Like, I want my main GPU to connect itself to the VM (pass through the GPU basically)
And have the ATI card act like a buffer in case the main one doesn't passthrough properly
Thats the issue I've been having.. for some reason the system won't let go of the nvidia card
even when running sudo and all
I find it funny people think NVIDIA would pay people to give good reviews of their products when it's not like they can sell more of their cards anyways
Lmao
yeah the nvidia card sell very well review or not
Yeah
The idea with the spare card is to have the system hook itself to that card, hence letting go of the nvidia card
And then the nvidia card can finally move itself over to the vm
Problem is.. I have absolutely no idea how to do that 
gloowww
watching videos of what people do with unraid, not sure I could do that even if it would be nice to have only 1 computer running to 2 vm
What cpu where they talking about when they kept saying the f word?
I have no idea
those 2 amd apu looks pretty interesting
Lmao, Harmony looks like ios
harmony actually uses android from what I saw
ios skinned android as might as well xD
Lmao @void pelican It does?
yes but that involves citing the source/providing the updates, plus android has weird things where the branding needs licencing?
amazon does uses android for fireOS
they can still comply with some of the licenses by stick a few statements in place.. except i'm not sure if that works in the eyes of the tariffs things that helped cause this...?
well apparently not using google services is the fixing the problem but that's weird anyway
that does a large chunk of the user facing stuff, thought they and amazon would semi want to reimplement things with their apps anyway
well android is open source so you can apparently use it if you want it, LineageOS for smartphone feels a lot like what HarmonyOS is but we'll see
the difference there is they are more open about it, not "yeah we made dis ofc" xD
Doesn't mean what Google is doing doesn't have issues though https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
well making something cost money so I can understand that
Google cant really do what they did here though https://www.cnet.com/news/alibaba-google-just-plain-wrong-about-our-os/
So yeah they can just copy
Its not open though probably, especially if they are just pretending its some new shiny thing
Alibaba appears to have
https://github.com/alibaba/AliOS-Things
As helps comply plus get the market attention of try this. (EDIT nah just iot version)
when it's only used in china, it's usually pretty hard to make them stop using a copy of what you made but if it's sold worldwide that's different, I actually have a huawei phone and it's good for what I use it for but I can't stop using google services for sure
I'm still confused about why Huwaei was banned
Because of potential ties to the Chinese government
I still don't get the big deal....
Mainly because, it's not like the US doesn't make companies put in backdoors in their products so they can peer into it >_>
Because then US and China are not on the best terms right now and allowing them to have phones here and allowing them to access peoples data could be a security risk
those are private companies not foreign nations
I know, but still
but still what? Would you let the enemy have info on what you're doing?
I can understand having it were state officals can't get them
They already got the data anyway... Facebook sells data to literally anyone
And then with the Equifax databreach.. most people are already screwed from that because whoever got access to that now has everyone's social security numbers
Thats just like saying we're screwed already so why even try
I guess it's like.. "What more could they possibly get?"
Allot more
It just feels really one-handed, because they still have Russian companies working in the US
It feels sudden too considering we've been trading with China for decades at this point now, and hadn't had any major blow ups
Well, im not going to get into politics here but allowing foreign nations to have private information on US citizens will end in disaster.
Congress was taking precautions
I guess like, I feel like if they're gonna do it with one country, then why not do it to all of them?
And even more puzzling... they're not even making US companies stop interacting with China
Actually.. doing that would have the added benefit to bring (some) jobs back
Don't you think they could get that info anyway if they really wanted to? Don't anyone remember russia hacking the fricken planet in the beginning of the pandemic?
Also they don't need to tap your phone if you just install an app that a lot of people use (tiktok) and map general trends/behaviour that way if they want that.
Okay, let me explain it in simple terms: Imagine every chip you use in your networking infrastructure and mobile phone infra in the country has some kind of packet that it looks for, that you don't know about, but if it sees that packet it tells the whole device to shut down or even just fry itself. That's why.
Like, I get why but what I don't understand is why China specifically
Like, why China is such a big deal.. when there are other countries to look out for too
You don't see why a foreign government that's posturing as a potential enemy not ally might have some reason to want to neutralise an enemy as a first strike?
The difference in scale of China versus any other country is significantly bigger.
Russia don't have chips in everything.
Yeah but, Russia also has multiple hacking group, that have caused damage
And they don't even have to make devices to cause damage!
They also don't have home-made components in every piece of critical infrastructure.
That relies on them being able to get access to information to attack those devices.
Then that's a problem with business in general, they need to stop relying on foreign entities on making their stuff
yes. but it's cheaper. one day they'll learn their lesson.
🤷🏾♀️ Then they got to take an L on that price in order to 'keep things safe'
But that still don't even guarantee minimal security... when a group can just go and breach into the system anyway
But everyone just wants to completely brush Russia to side and not even address the fact they house the most black-hat hacking groups...
Like what @sharp spruce said earlier.. Russia were the ones who did the cyberattacks back in the beginning of the pandemic
It's a bit counter-productive just attacking one problem and ignoring every other issue
Like, people constantly say "The issue with cybersecurity is China! And if we get rid of China then all of our problems will be solved!"... but that ain't at all the case, not even remotely close
Yes it does reduce the potential for something disastrous.. but that don't completely resolve the issue
It just feels like there's such a hardcore push on China, that every other problem either gets put on the back burner or just entirely ignored
I noticed something in today's wan show 
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I do want to point out, aliyun means "ali cloud" meaning it's possibly closer to chromeos than android itself
luke looks so happy i this thumbnail, what a wholesome guy
ikr
"happy" isn't exactly how I'd describe that look lol
it's more of an "OH GOD DOES EXIST"
There should be LinusOS
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Just food for thought
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LG exited the mobile phone market.
Their phones were actually unique and good. Sony makes worse phones and still didn't quit.
still no wan show ? any ideas
This is normal. If they started now they'd be early from their typical start time
They should make the WAN show notif through discord actually work. Like maybe they can just @ the WAN Notifications role when they're about to start.
^ this
Are luke and Linus trying to set a new record for wan show lateness or is it cancelled today?
WAN where
they changed the title to the current date so probably not cancelled
Linus is online
They are late because Linus was still trying to figure out how to say GN was still wrong about the new cards
finally live
Ayy they’re live on fp
just live on twitch
hi everyone!
hello
hi
yea noice
fp gang
thats what makes it good
EXACTLY
lol
It's not for everyone
Personally I think it's great entertainment for Friday night beers
Would be awesome if this was some master plan that someone at best buy thought of to do some weird bait switch thing with the bots so the REAL cards are available for normal folks
time to install Windows 11
Any chance you wanna comment on who the tesla plaid is actually for after reading this
https://www.norwegianamerican.com/norway-teslas-biggest-market/
and considering that norways most sold ev at the moment is the audi e-tron
and its a country with 5 million residents, but more than 1000 porsche taycans..
Seems like they might just be who the plaid is for..
LOL
LMFAO 


Arey yaar
Ye mera first time heh
On linustech twitch right
Someone
When does it start

I watch it in floatplane

It's "live" on twitch right now - probably the pre-show though.
live on floatplane
live on yt
nice pfp
yup
Anyone else interested in an hardware up cycling idea?
Especially given the global "silicon shortage"

Linus and Luke are so out of touch
'has anyone had a services that added ads into content people have paid for' uhhh, either you idgits watched cable?
and for my two cents, announcing a product you never intend to sell is fraud, Nvidia execs should end up in handcuffs over this
i can see your point of view 🤔
though my point of view on the quest thing was I wasnt a fan of the gloating like we are all stupid and didnt also think facebook was going to do this. many of us dont care as much about ads in freee games, like on android.... and ios 😄
its the whole reason they are so willing to sell us the hardware so damn cheap compared to other products. also I just assume we will root the quest and put in ad block like we do on phones 😄 it is android after all
or we just block them on the network before it makes it to the headset
all that said, these things will all make it into an LTT video at some point haha
When you install windows 11 get into the windows insider program to receive updates'
This is the only way to do so if you want to get the full version of windows when it releases
a) I know zero people that actually have cable TV
b) adding ads into something people paid for under the impression that it would not contain ads...
good luck doing that when the ads and content both get served by the same servers
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Actually ads are normally served from an external source
They usually are, but Facebook could easily make the ads on Oculus come from their content servers if people are blocking on a network level. Then you either have ads and content or neither
you dont need to block a whole domain 😄
you can actually get most ads with blocking the right cards (symbols and extensions)
Good luck doing that without a rooted Quest. Blocking anything past the first / of a url on a network level won't work with HTTPS
Just a little treat for you.
@hollow minnow you're a dork, they want it, in a gaming rig
they legit laughed at two seperate people for just showing links to the card
It's à friend Who just recieved it, and he still miss a few components beacause he waited to have the card
=b
I wonder if they will cover windows 11 and how first Gen Ryzen and anything 7700k or older is not technically supported lol
anyone know what the usual start time is for the show on FP?
Not sure, I mostly watch the vod now
Actually Windows 11 is really weird in what it supports. I think that theoretically you could vm 11 on an unsupported cpu, as 11 does run in a vm
new here on discord, is there a betting pool on how late the wan show will be?
I would never take those odds
I believe FP and twitch start at the same time, youtube starts when they actually start, I believe so they don't need to go back and edit the vod
I have wondered why someone doesn't start the twitch thing umm predictions? When its supposed to start, kick off a predictions for how late will it be
ah I was just curious. It's already almost 1:30am here and I like watching this live when I can
or falling asleep to it
Yeah, unless linus is on vacation XD i think thats the only one that was on time i've caught over the last year
start time thing currently says 17:00 PT which was 22 mins ago, so could start sometime in the next 40 mins 
i for a while have estimated it around half past now
but sometimes they are an hour or so late
especially last month or two i think
given there have been the really delayed days, linus like 1.5-2 hours late 
discord pinging other than here or eventually for youtube has been broken as well
yeah, i'm inconsistent but if people are hanging around I've tagged this chat when they go live on twitch
if your just hanging around not doing anything you can catch before they go live that it will be soon, since linus usually updates the stream title before going live
i half wish we would be allowed to ping here (well Wan Notifications) until they fix the bot xD
is that actually still around? i didn't see the channel glancing at the server today
hmm they have deleted it in the past few weeks (it has been broken for half a year except for january poss)
a few weeks backs the notifcation role thing changed so it had to be renabled i think but yeah the channel itself seems gone
Can someone ping me when twitch stream is live?
not happy wioth the newest season on fortnite
title updated!!!
#the-wan-show Going live on Twitch
live on twitch
to be fair, twitch chat proves time and time again, its full of trolls 
growls from under bridge
I love Linus' and Luke's sarcasm
except now they tangent ofc xD
lmao yeah
@elfin crow
WHERE DA STRAWPOLL
i cant post link :(
dont do it
ok
ah lin k gets nuked. sad sorry
so wheres the link in my dm to the win11 dev release?
tysm, i m attendin it from the start
tysm
so many people in twitch chat giving suggestions when he is only looking at floatplane really XD
You know how u can't install windows 11 on bare metal; I did, sorta worked and then interrupt storms ruined everything
nah its the goldeneye maps
Linus: Taking shots every chance he can at Vancouver's housing market.
I have a good idea for a story. Dell for monitor support is demanding I use a Mac or Alienware to test their gaming monitor in order for support
dammit, i thought it was friday
it is tho
tomorrow WAN show yeeeeeeeee
Surprised to see an LTT video when i looked at youtube, really rare they post one on a wan show day
friday releases are sponsored videos, like a product showcase
ok so I haven't really been able to watch the WAN show live, when does it usually start (UTC time)?
I want to say they usually arn't much latter then umm 1AM UTC
At least its more often its starting around then then now
ok, thanks a lot
yeah I noticed lol
i recommend a LMG staff member read stream chat
trying to be covert about it - the more people know the worse it gets
wait what just happened to the WAN show
I was watching live and now it says this video is private
i also got that
maybe he showed some private info?
oh. i have gotten that on a mc live stream before so idk
hmmm
maybe
he was showing his new house
nothing happened, dont look into
so maybe he showed the address by accident or something
and by address I don't just mean the WAN address
he may have
aww crap I was in the middle of watching and it went private
nothing happened
what the heck I live my entire life looking forward to next friday's WAN show
what am I supposed to do now?
I was watching youtube, pausing as needed, now gone. lol
This is what I get for not being able to watchit live lol
We need a recorded version. Does anyone have a screen recording?
Something was released that wasnt meant to be released, that's all that is really needed to know.
it will be re-released with the private info censored
ok is it coming back?
most likley
it must be about his new house because that's what he was talking about when it went private
I really hope he didnt accidentally show private information
Why is the Wan show private?
read chat lol
Dont worry about it, it will be edited and re-released
how?
funny
damn now I got to wait to watch WAN show
I look forward to drinking and watching it every friday
yeah sorry
I just decided to hop on and poof
I was going to watch it live but finished another stream first.... And literally though "well I'm not going to miss anything, they have never killed a wan sow before"
i just wanted to hear about the kitchen desk
i was on the microsoft tech guy topic
I hope linus is OK
yeah
lmao
hopefully
maybe he showed LTT's IP address by accident (192.168.1.1)
I had just gotten to the part about W11 system requirements
dont ask.
some one probably used the photos to find the address
Stop talking about it?
Something was released that wasnt meant to be released, that's all that is really needed to know.
just pretend it didn't happen
No need to talk about it.
@gaunt zinc why what happened?
Time to buy a new house
Nothing happened stream busted
I lack the ability to pretend
@gaunt zinc deleted my message
Exactly. If we say what happened people will probably start searching for it.
It's not Linus's PII discord channel tho
The internet is great, isn't it folks.....
what the heck is PII
😦
Why what happened?
Any idea how long until it continues?
see #the-wan-show message :/
they will probably have to edit it and then release it
The VOD is removed for a good reason. Linus is likely being yelled at by Yvonne right now. Don't ask for recording of it, it will be released later with PII removed
"dont ask"
"why, what happened"
LMAO
Rack knows more then us. we should listen to them and just wait for the stream to come back
idk if the stream is going to be live again
Something was leaked in the stream and they need to edit it out before they make it public again.
maybe he accidentally showed full nudes of him changing out of the LTT underwear
from lttstore.com
Let's hope there arent any dicks out there
Rack let me ask if people in FP told him, because thats the only place he would have seen other than staff
Wishful thinking
Good one
They ended the show for tonight but they may release a censored/edited version.
damn
I am so mad that I delayed watching the stream
guess I'll have to listen on apple podcasts when they upload later in the week
yeah I was delayed too
Hopefully they do, I wasn’t watching live
I wonder if it will come out on Android Podcasts
That’s probably why Yvonne was calling him in the stream.
It itsn't too big of an edit, a re-released vod might be up by later tonight
when does the gif version of the wan show hit
I didn't know they uypload to soundcloud and android podcasts
It's friday night. There may not be anyone in the office to do the edit until monday
well that's what overtime is for
whats android podcasts? You mean Google podcasts or smg else
idk man I don't use no google products
I was making fun of the phrase "Apple Podcasts"
Google is buttcheeks
its the kind of edit you can literally do with youtube's build in tools so
if it is just a simple cut. anyone could do that
what there is apple podcasts
7 clicks in premiere Pro. And we all know how fast linus' pc will render that shit
and I watch the WAN show on that
no that would be more like iOS podcasts
The real reason is simple - he clearly didn't want Madison knowing where he lived otherwise she might carpet bomb the entire building with googly eyes before he moved in.
oh true
Keep in mind they also need to upload it to FP, not just YT
sorry but I don't even know what floatplane is
haha yeah "googly eyes" look like the other thing
I just watch it on youtube
o tru
did Linus leak his new address? Pepega
yeah 192.168.1.1
i will watch the rtfm show while i wait for the wan show
No place like 127.0.0.1
Something was released that wasnt meant to be released, that's all that is really needed to know.
AHHHHH I'm so mad I missed it.
Isn't it 123 sesame street?
why we talking about this again?
@hidden dew 🤓
hopefully not the leaked info
well what else are we going to talk about
Luke's moustache
Has wan died
yeah fat media
went 127.0.0.1, then 192.168.1.1 came along and told me to pay rent
oh shit
I just saw someone's comment disapear
but good thing I have nvidia shadowplay
I'm going to see what it said
both aare wrong, the real address is 0.0.0.0
Oh that's right
the address it 911
All of it. I literally though the though process of... I'm sure delaying watching it won't make a difference.
I was even thinking I wounder how many people record there device constantly just in case?
yeah like I said shadowplay is always recording on my computer
always watching
mike wazowski
Unfortunately it'll be out there now, once you broadcast something on the internets and all that...
But only in games. No?
no desktop too
I bet he showed off new merch. Colton will surely fire him
^
he may have caught it before the it showed on stream because of delay
At least it's not as bad as leaking card info.
They will contain the release as much as they could, anyone abusing it or releasing it again is just a bad person
I really hope he didn't leak his real address, that would cause so many absolute weirdos to make his life difficult
Either way. I still missed up until that point 😭
Anyone go to Youtube and see they were broadcasting, only to get "This video is private? It had appeared in the side bar of another video, but I got that when I clicked on it.
Just know that if anyone says the information that was leaked here they will likely get an immediate ban
yeah mellchanb
I guess there not coming back tonight lol
we've been typing for the past 15 minutes about that
@lean perch that happened to me
Ah, I guess I missed the chat. Anyone know what happened?
I would've liked to hear what they were talking about for Windows 11
Are they on Floatplane right now?
@gaunt zinc even if they didn't actually leak the info? That's odd
I'm still undecided whether or not to upgrade
best not to worry about it
I can imagine the conversation going right now with Yvonne, something along the lines of "Right, we're selling the solid gold controller and buying somewhere else!"
He leaked something he shouldn't have.
well this is a good time to set up storage backup
As they should...
Oh, okay.
the VOD will be up at a later time
Linus dropped the stream and it broke. That's the official response. Lmao not really.
So I guess no WAN Show tonight then.
No, the stream is done for tonight as Linus had to go early
I came here because I couldn't find an official response.
that's ok
you know what's funny? they talked about the saying "everything stays on the internet" being not true
ironic
lol
he could save other data from being deleted
Oh that's funny
but not himself
There not even on twtich
btw stream chat handled it horribly i only noticed bc so many people were yelling about it, i would rather have not known
Yt obviously
oh boy
Twitch
yeah I was going to guess twitch
lol yeah on twitch someone was yelling with highlighted msgs that we shouldn't draw attention to it
D: twitch chat is unmatched
He will probly tell us next week whet happened, if it's contained by then.
YT was telling it too
Yt and twtich is down
It's just that painful feeling of missing out. Not knowing wat other know due to a poor return on a gamble. I couldn't care less wat was or wasn't leaked. I live on the other side of the planet.
Twitch chat has gone subscriber only
what the heck
one of those was me but i just wanted everyone to calm down
YAY
i got so used to watching the vod that i forgot the chat existed
I got it on the Steam Sale
@keen siren same
Runs excellent on my PC
all I hope it that linus is OK
RDR2: 50% fun, 50% boring
got it during the steam sale too
Sounds like Rockstar
someone called me kitten on discord recently
why did i read that as r2d2
hahaha
same lmao
Because Star Wars is life
Plankton
1% evil
99% hot gas
R u n
I have a 3700x and an EVGA FTW 3080, thing runs BALLS HOT when maxed out
I've been reading your name as Cat OS
I mean similar, 3900x and a MSI Gaming X Trio 3080
I'd accept the crazy GPU demand if the game actually looked premium
I'm playing at 4K/60 tho
I wish I had money that wasn't worthless
TPM doesn't protect against data theaf from hackers. And my pc data is the least worrying thing for a burglar to steal. But it increases the chance of me losing my precious photos.... So why force drive bit encryption if I don't need it.
wait what
yeah many people do
dont update to win 11 simple
There's probably a lot more valuable data on your PC than you might think. If you're not running full disk encryption in this day and age you're kinda nuts.
i cant use tpm to begin with so it doesnt matter to me at the moment
I have a feeling Microsoft will still backtrack on some of the hardware requirements
Linus had a really good response about Win11s requirement about TPM, hopefully that will be up at some point.
But I want performance improvement
Just never connect to the internet and you can never get hacked
^
Ok, so this weekend there is an air show in my area with both the Blue Angels AND Thunderbirds
What value?
You’ve got till 2025!
What happened with the wan show, the video was removed from YT
How does one make a ghost disk with this data encryption TPM thing in the way
Heaps of value on mine but I still haven't turned it on
yeah
I wish I could say that I didn't have to update to Win 11 when it's available. Since I work from home, I have to deal with requirements from my job, which includes timely updates of Windows.
Problem - I am in legacy Windows 10 right now.
I'm an idiot tho
I have a slightly old z97 system, it has a TPM slot but im probably not gonna upgrade too soon, win 11 doesnt really add anything i want
Information was released that was not meant to be released.
We don't discuss local, in person things here. This is a TECH CHANNEL.
i cant to begin with
@keen garnet which z97 do you have? I have one too
time flies....
it's an asus Z97-P
Yep, so don’t wait too long 👍
i hope that is true for the gpus....
I'll have to upgrade to Win 11 rather quickly because of what I do, even though I don't like some things about it (that centered taskbar for one).
Oh. I have the asrock z97 extreme 4.
Idk if it has a TPM slot or whatever but if you z97 has it, I suppose mine could too
can't you move it to the left in settings?
Anyone know if 1660 would have problems with Secure Boot? I heard some NVidias won't run with it enabled
Like what?
Not sure, I haven't looked too much into it just I do know they removed some taskbar settings.
i think it is limited with the home version
I'm 99% sure I saw a video, I think from Windows Central that showed you can move the taskbar if you want
Just had a look on asrocks website, looks like there is a tpm header on that board: https://www.asrock.com/mb/intel/z97 extreme4/
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Hmm I'll have to take a look.
Eh if it isn't an option a program can prob change it
I saw a video of w11 running on a core 2 duo laptop. It's not like systems can't handle w11. The devices MS deems not worthy will just be locked out by software/TPM
Do you have a phone? Does it have a password on it? What about cloud backups? Are you logged into those same services on your PC? What about your email address logins? How much data is contained in being able to log in to every site you have by forcing password resets etc?
