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fast void
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What I’m saying is Jake setup Linuses Whole house

Now that he’s not in the constraint of time

He might actually into more tech depth
But it’s ultimately gonna be whatever brings the views

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If people don’t watch he will give you long form tic tok

graceful swan
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Jake should collab and pen test the Tech House

prisma niche
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finally 🥹

round ermine
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I hope your ready for THREE HOURS of discussion on how the tech indutry is SLOWLY TURNING TO CRAP

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Surely that will center you

lilac lintel
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Late wan show today ?

lilac lintel
random trout
lilac lintel
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My bad I got used to early WAN

knotty flint
brittle moon
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Microsoft Finally Admits AI Sucks - WAN Show February 6, 2026

brittle moon
# random trout It's not late?

dan has said a few times its supposed to be 4:30. My assumption is that they are never anywhere near on-time anyway so they dont bother fixing it other places lol

crude sandal
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5pm(ish) is closer to actual start time anyway KEKW

knotty flint
shadow beacon
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Also wan show and new j.cole album on the same day, today is a great day

random trout
brittle moon
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no, 4:30 is supposed to be the youtube (main show) time

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1s lemme find the timestamp where he said that

round ermine
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pre is on

olive bronze
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wait whats the black thing he pulled out of the lid?

alpine girder
olive bronze
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mine is white

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i'm looking at two lids and they're both white

split scaffold
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The fan art I mentioned.

olive bronze
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there should be a special place in hell for people who plan olympics opening ceremonies

rare tartan
sleek kayak
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preshow still going?

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ill join in a bit

rare tartan
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Show just started.

unique raft
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Wait.. a login button in ms-paint ?

lone moth
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It's great

random trout
unique raft
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I think its gone to far..... it reminds me of a time where i was soo pushed out of a ecosystem because it was so painful to do basic things

random trout
unique raft
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Didnt drink mountain dew in years

tulip hatch
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what is it, 7-up sprite?

unique raft
unique raft
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Lol Linus mad rant at 2 hours in about 2.5G networking

cursive tiger
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linus referencing the trump shart wasn't on my wan bingo card

rare tartan
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When mud cables

forest kraken
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Sound advice, Dan 😉 😂

graceful swan
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would pay monthly for floatbook

tulip hatch
woeful crescent
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Get a pet bird and just use IPoAC..

spice oak
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booting the phone into safe mode can bypass the pin

honest spire
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Just got done listening to WAN and at some point Linus mentions that at some point the market will be flooded with AMD Epyc CPU's once data centers start to phase them out. Well I think we will run into the issue other than lack of motherboards like Linus mentioned but by the fact that Epyc CPU's can be vendor locked, I know Dell has vendor locked Epyc's, I'm not entirely sure if Supermicro and Lenovo do it but I know Dell 100% has

cursive tiger
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oh if dell is doing it they almost certainly all are

plain aurora
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…vendor lock?

crude sandal
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A feature on the board that when enabled trips a fuse in the CPU locking it to that vendor's board

plain aurora
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Ahhhh so a dell board will only work with a dell enabled cpu.

Urgh.

crude sandal
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No

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Wrong way around

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The CPU used in that board can only be used on a dell board

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The CPU is not locked until it's been put in the board

glossy lichen
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Hey everyone, just got to the segment of yesterday's show where Linus mentions he's switching all out to Linux for a month.
I'm the developer of a prominent piece of software for using the Elgato Stream Deck on Linux, and they have Stream Decks on the show, and I was wondering what the best way would be for me to highlight this to the team?
It would be so amazing if they used my stuff!

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Never-fucking-mind, pressed play and they immediately say that he'll touch Windows for WAN show :(

fervent rivet
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Hi all! I just saw the recent WAN Show, and I’ve been mulling around writing the organization an email for a while (since I bought your screwdriver and you can probably cross reference the timing on that haha) I’d like to introduce myself and explain how the WAN Show (and LMG) made me a better person. Over ten years ago Linus and Luke taught me (way back in their NCIX days) how to build a computer on YouTube. It ignited a passion in me about technology and just being curious about technology in general. I was just a random high school kid using my summer money to build a cool PC. It had a GTX760 and it was the best thing I’d ever had up until that point in my life. Since then I’ve become a history teacher at a vocational / career technical education school, where among other things, I teach students who want to enter the IT profession (and culinary, automotive, medical etc, I digress). I kept up with Linus and WAN throughout college, but I learned what I needed, and life moves on and you focus on other things. Over the last few years I’ve also used the skills Linus and Luke taught me to become an integral member of a restaurant LLC group, where when more prominent hacking brought Linus Media Group back into my radar.

I recently saw the clip about education (it was actually a clip titled “YouTube’s new changes are huge” ). As a veteran educator of 13 years, plus with a Masters in School Admin this May, I’m considering a PhD in education, in part based on research on how YouTube is done in schools. I think the LMG folks and the things I’m working on in the academic world can merge based on that clip.

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If the LMG folks want to continue this conversation, let’s go, I’m right here haha.

molten quartz
random trout
glossy lichen
potent finch
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the amount of effort Luke puts into raising his birds, they should have one of them host an LTT video

crude sandal
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The stream deck isn't connected to it, it's connected to dan

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And the broadcasting software is windows only

cursive tiger
plain aurora
woeful crescent
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Also its worth letting them know about the StreamDeck tool.. I'm like 70% sure Linus has one of them for his computer at home.. Even if not its something he might want to mention.. Also Elijah streams and I thought he said he moved to Linux recently?

crude sandal
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It's not exactly hard to find these projects

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The top comment on the first Reddit result on google is that guy talking about it lol

woeful crescent
tiny nimbus
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I'm slightly reassured by the claim that the facial recognition (this time) doesn't leave the device that captures it. But only slightly

woeful crescent
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Well last time they said they didn't save the images.. and they didn't lie, it was their 3rd party that saved the images, then got hacked..

tiny nimbus
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Hence the distinction between third-party image processing that happens off-device vs on-device

restive rain
restive rain
spice cairn
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im switching platforms once this shit goes into effect

elder sparrow
tender prism
woeful crescent
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Government Data is a stretch, unless they changed it so you can't just use a photo and NEED to give them ID..

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End of the day this, or something like this, is in the pipeline for much of the world.. for better or worse Gov't are doing it.. I don't like it, but I don't blame Discord for trying to get ahead of it..

crude sandal
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If the government wants verification they need to provide a proper way to verify

trim obsidian
woeful crescent
cursive tiger
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i can comment at least in the case of new zealand because i live here and am familiar with how a lot of the systems here work, but something like tom scott proposed after the online safety act was put into effect in the uk would work here without too many changes needing to be made to existing systems

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there's already a system of digital identity verification, and you could use that in a way similar to how oauth services work to "log in with realme", except instead of providing the actual website with all of the information on your id, they would only need to get a boolean value of whether or not you are of the appropriate age to view that content

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and sure, this could be abused to log on the government side which services are being accessed and when, but i kind of think that's a moot point since that information is being collected by third parties anyway then leaked on the internet

woeful crescent
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Problem is you won't get that in the US, cause for reasons I can't grasp they are terrified of national id, and half the stats will do things differently than the other half the states just because they need to be themselves.. so they won't talk to eachother.. you'd end up with 40 different systems for 48 states (and 2 that just refuse outright) :p

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Also given recent events, like DOGE doing their things, there are justified fears of what Data the Gov't collects and who has access and can use it.. see them using it to try and find immigrants, or state voter records..

versed grail
# woeful crescent Problem is you won't get that in the US, cause for reasons I can't grasp they ar...

There's some other reasons, but the bulk of it is that gun nuts are concerned that such a registry could be used somehow to take away their guns. The guns they supposedly have on hand to rebel against a tyrannous government infringing upon people's rights.

(This is why Real ID, which was initially conceptualized fairly soon after 9/11, only actually became needed for domestic air travel a few months ago)

odd grail
woeful crescent
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Not familiar with it, seems its not available in Canada.. but that sounds like a good system, and for sure I trust Apple with my ID more than.. well.. probaby anyone other than myself.. which is really sad when you think about it lol

odd grail
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They claim not to store anything after verification, too. You scan + tap your passport and take a couple selfies, they confirm everything checks out (notably without government involvement), then issue the ID and delete the data you shared. The ID is then stored locally, in your phone’s wallet and can be used until expiration with zero additional info or usage data being shared with Apple. When you present it, it displays a list of all the data it’s going to share prior to confirmation.

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Google has an equivalent as well, also limited to the US for now afaik. Hopefully both will reach the broader world at some point…

cursive tiger
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we also just don't have nearly as federal a government as the usa, local governments pretty much manage building consents, some transport and utilities like water and rubbish collection, and beyond that basically all decisions are made on a national level because we're a small country and you can do that

cursive tiger
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a lot of other countries also have similar systems, especially in europe, so it makes a lot of sense that apple isn't pushing it too hard internationally

unborn hollow
woeful crescent
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I doubt Discord leadership thinks it’s a good idea.. at least beyond what it’s actually there for, to make it look like they are thinking of the children to politicians.. I 100% think this is just them trying to get ahead of these laws in other countries and keep their name out of the politicians mouths when they talk about the evils on X and Roblox

restive rain
timid ruin
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*enable message reqs. The teen setting disables msg reqs as a default.

restive rain
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the whole point of message requests is to filter unknown users lol, it wouldn't make any sense for teen users to have them force disabled

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Discord is announcing enhanced teen safety features rolling out globally that reinforce its long-standing commitment to creating a safer and more inclusive experience for users over the age of 13.

timid ruin
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At least that's what makes sense to me for a minor. They shouldn't even have the option of accidentally receiving a message request from a rando

restive rain
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the toggle to disable message requests will be age locked, the toggle to disable dms will not be

timid ruin
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That makes little sense, since message requests still pop up as pings (unless notifications are disabled either completely or custom-set). Especially since you're still getting the first line of messages before you can block or accept it. So honestly, as this thing already exists and isn't super useful in "filtering" messages, I find it utterly useless

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It would make a lot more sense that DM's to non-friends are just disabled by default but you can still send friend requests.

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I highly doubt that I have ever received a DM that wasn't a message request first, and came from someone not already on my contact list.

trim obsidian
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The funny thing is the limited version is how it should be by default. 99% of unsolicited DMs are spam messages so send 'em to the spam folder.

tiny mauve
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I have literally 0️⃣ spam DMs 💁‍♂️

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But I'm also in very few servers and I'm pretty sure I have most of them blacklisted for unsolicited DMs

restive rain
brittle moon
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but if you have an older account sounds like they kept it off to preserve old behaviour

potent finch
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LMAO, I literally can't discuss the WAN show on the WAN show chat, thx Mod tools =b

spice cairn
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but FUCKING APPLE had to be a bitch about its rating on the app store

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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children shouldn't have access to chats that allow DM's, voice and video in said DM's

woeful crescent
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I mean, without verifying peoples ages, how do you even prove that the users at 17+?

spice cairn
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the expectation is there

woeful crescent
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Apple can, sure, but what about on Desktop and such..

spice cairn
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its on the parents to actually fucking parent

woeful crescent
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Ya we can't burry our heads and pretend that parents parent anymore..

spice cairn
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like why do i now have to be responsible and baby sit some snot nose kid because little timys mommy and daddy couldn't be fucking asked to figure out how to rise there child

woeful crescent
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Remember when the Phone was in the Kitchen.. on the wall.. with a cord that was 3ft long? And the computer was in a common room, in full view of everyone, and make a racket every time you tried to conenct to the world at large? :p

spice cairn
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i never wanted to have children so why am i now being forced to hand over my life because of stupid kids i don't even know

woeful crescent
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Damn kids

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GET OFF MY LAWN

spice cairn
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for real tho they shouldn't be welcome on Discord like fuck off, go outside or some shit

woeful crescent
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They shouldn't be, but the fact is, without Discord (or some other org) doing the age checks, then they would be.. its just the reality of the world now..

tiny mauve
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Did you go outside much when you were a kid?

woeful crescent
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Saying no one under X age on a site hasn't worked.. well.. ever really.. but now its really a joke without some verification.. which used to be give them your CC info.. I'd rather give a pic of my face than my CC personally :p

spice cairn
tiny mauve
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Bc the way you speak sure makes it seem like "no" is the answer

woeful crescent
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I went outside once.. it was horrible..

spice cairn
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didn't have internet till i was 14

woeful crescent
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Therese this big ball in the sky trying to give me cancer..

spice cairn
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went outside a lot

woeful crescent
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Also for what its worth, I'm also not of the idea that blocking social media for anyone under X age is good either.. There are lots of people who for better or worse get a lot more social benefit out of it.. Not everyone can just go outside and have friends and fun and people that get them..

spice cairn
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anyways i rather have people with children do there fucking jobs as parents then have to deal with this bs. cause you fucking KNOW that they don't actually care either

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its not about protecting kids its about protecting there bottom line

spice cairn
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yeeep

woeful crescent
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But seriously a lot of the laws have that as at least the excuse.. but even on that level is flawed..

potent finch
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we just take every kid at birth and stick them in a featureless cubicle with a nutrient paste dispenser until they're 25, that way they can't be exposed to any objectionable content whatsoever until its time to enter the workforce!

this will respect the child safety laws in every country!

woeful crescent
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Since I'm not a kid anymore, or for a long while now.. I'm down for this.. also would make the mall much nicer experience.. hell I might even visit a theater again!

timid ruin
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But yeah, in Denmark malls are actually pretty okay. In our local mall you mostly run into families with kids tbh. It's really not unpleasant

woeful crescent
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I visit my local mall to get the best Chinese food in town. Go in, order to go, make a hasty exit.

potent finch
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I hear stories from (maybe not Denmark, but maybe within 500 miles or so?) of mothers leaving their kids in their prams outside coffee shops with no fear

timid ruin
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Oh, the food corner is actually pretty pleasant if you don't go there during weekend lunch rush hours.

timid ruin
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It's typically babies that sleep in the prams

potent finch
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i'm so used to mixing up the Nordic countries I just default to being wrong XD

timid ruin
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It's cold, quiet, and people don't cram up the space. Everyone wins.

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But also, people here have giant prams. Like, you have huge cars, but I've seen prams that take up most of the pram space on the bus (and it's designed to hold two normal sized prams or 3 smaller travel buggies).

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And then we swap to family cargo bikes. Those are pretty rad. Cars are for people with too much money (parking space costs are insane, and most street parking is heavily limited to 30min-2hrs range - unless ofc you have a family house and your own garage)

tender prism
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So I'm guessing most people here won't verify themselves on discord. What are the content that we'll be locked out of? I can't imagine theres too many nsfw spaces

shy wadi
# tender prism So I'm guessing most people here won't verify themselves on discord. What are th...

I'm one of them; here's part of a message I composed and then sent to some Discord servers:

So I just heard about the announcement of Discord making it where government issued IDs and face scans are going to be mandatory next month for verification purposes all over the world. Frankly, I don't like it at all. I've never needed to use an ID for internet accounts, and there's no way in hell that I want my personal face scanned - I like my internet anonymity.

...What's worse, I've made friends on Discord. I have chatted with various indie creators, artists, and even YouTube personalities. I am in multiple servers that I value very much as a part of my identity as a person. It's also where I seek the most support, by connecting to people in real time and asking questions, getting help. If I get my account blocked, I lose a big part of that. This is no small thing for me - THIS IS HUGE. Discord has become a part of my life, and it will be difficult to migrate away from that.

...I already have plans to spread out my social presence, so any impact on my Discord account would be less damaging. I'll let you guys know in a near-future announcement what I decide.

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Currently trying out Stoat.

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It's... not verifying my email. 🤔

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I can't see the message, for some reason.

spice cairn
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so which games are you going to use to get around this bs

spice cairn
restive rain
restive rain
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mainly admin abuse & severe right wing stuff, i would do some more research into it though, i dont know the specifcs

restive rain
full oracle
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admin abuse and right wing stuff?

restive rain
full oracle
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i can verify its not a thing

restive rain
full oracle
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well i am one of the developers

spice cairn
spice cairn
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the fuck they mean "alt left"

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fucking insane take by the the first commenter

tiny mauve
slim gale
restive rain
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what if the world ends tomorrow?

slim gale
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then id be dead

restive rain
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yea

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stupid argument to make

slim gale
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its different? why should we be fine with them violating our privacy now

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just because it only blocks some content

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it just sets a precedent

crude sandal
restive rain
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discord can sometimes be dense but they are not stupid enough to fully self implode the app

spice cairn
woeful crescent
spice cairn
restive rain
woeful crescent
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And for what its worth, it was a 3rd party that leaked the DIscord ID's (who didn't delete the info as per their contract).. which doesn't change the fact that theres always a risk, and you can't trust any company to do as they say, but also that it wasn't Discord itself that had the leak..

restive rain
spice cairn
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this isn't about "protecting children" or "making spaces safer" or "catching pedos" its about erasing groups of people because we don't like because they don't live, love and exist the same way as they do. and thats not right

restive rain
spice cairn
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it is tho

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and what makes you think they wont

restive rain
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Well also access to talking in stages but that’s not targeting any specific group

restive rain
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What’s the eye roll for

spice cairn
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don't think they won't push this more and more and more

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cause clearly you have no idea

woeful crescent
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Give how its not live, and we have no idea whats gonna be flagged our how, people saying absolutes about what its going to do on any side are just guessing..

spice cairn
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yeah and thats the scary part

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one of at least

restive rain
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It also is live currently in the uk/aus

spice cairn
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ah so what makes someone deemed as "nsfw"??

restive rain
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And a random group of people outside of that

restive rain
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Only channels/servers/commands

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Ans its things the owners of those choose to indicate

spice cairn
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whats to stop them from just targeting people this why tho

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just because i have and am in a few nsfw servers

restive rain
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I don’t know what you mean by targeting people

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Its all nsfw channels/servers/commands

spice cairn
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sure bud

restive rain
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Its not only select ones

spice cairn
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and no one has ever lied on the internet

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ever

restive rain
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I still have no idea what you are implying here

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It effects every single flagged nsfw channel/server/command you attempt to access

spice cairn
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i can explain things to you... i can't understand them for you

restive rain
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I don’t understand how that applies. Discord is not targeting specific groups with this

spice cairn
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ok bud

restive rain
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It doesn’t matter who you are, if you try to access an nsfw resource you will get age verification

spice cairn
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and nothing bad ever happens ever

restive rain
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??

spice cairn
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gods your thick

restive rain
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Says the one who cant seem to understand something pretty basic and straightforward

spice cairn
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🤣

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are you looking in a mirror?

restive rain
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Do you want to actually explain what you mean

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So i can attempt to understand you better

spice cairn
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its not my fucking job to hand hold you on this kinda shit. you really care do some research try and understand why this WILL effect LGBTQ+ communitis more. get informed on other events around the world

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not more i can do other then that

restive rain
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Im literally open to trying to understand how something that applies to everyone will specifically target one group of people, but you havent explained that clearly.

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Whatever, im off to bed.

woeful crescent
tender prism
tender prism
timid ruin
# tender prism I agree with the first half but I don't think this is about erasing groups of pe...

Probably not the EU, as I earlier mentioned, there's a big fight for online anonymity in the EU. The only verification you need here is for services you would already have provided your personal details when established, such as utilities, educational platforms, work-related stuff, government stuff or banking. Where they knew your personal information before you created an online account. But anything that works with just an email has all personal information as optional (even e-shops technically only need an email or in some cases a phone number). And online stores almost always require to have the guest user option, or need to remove personal information after a short time as per GDPR. So I doubt they would push for age verification using IDs on a platform that is not 100% European and therefore could end up storing personal data.

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A friend of mine has actually gone into details on a verification process that would use government ID online verification platforms that would communicate with any app service and would just send a "YES/NO" response without revealing any information, but that would require the app to cooperate with the specific government on the verification method. Not impossible, but also not likely to happen.

tender prism
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What if it was a verification system only through a government website but that information isn't stored anywhere in discord? This is similar to authentication with a Microsoft account

timid ruin
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Which is what I just wrote

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It's not impossible IF the developers reached out to the separate governments (since probably each one uses a slightly different service)

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It's just less likely given the work they'd have to put in (and probably compliance for the external systems)

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But it's an entirely doable thing

tender prism
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I think it's likely if that's the path to legitimatize the platform

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And coordinating with many different government is very tough and exhausting but the actual code to do this is not difficult. I have implemented it in my career

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You basically call the government's auth API and that API is a black box. It will return true or false whether the user successfully verified or not

timid ruin
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But it's not so different from how 2FA bank authorisation has been integrated into international online shops. It can be done 100%, but it will always be a question for the platform whether they want to get into the legal part early on. If yes, then as you said, it shouldn't be a huge developer work. It's mostly just politics/legal cooperation

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I just often see how private companies rather do their own things instead of trying to do the best thing.

tiny mauve
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Of course! Why wouldn't they? Their own things are always the best thing ||/s||

cursive tiger
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
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sure, i'm not particularly fond of the direction, but right now it has zero effect on me, and as soon as it does have any effect on me then i'll pack up and leave immediately

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but that time may never come, and in that case i might as well enjoy my stay

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if you use the platform differently you'll have a different line, but my line has not yet been crossed, and when it is that will be clear and i will be vocal

timid ruin
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||(reading your other comments, I've missed out on asking whether you turn furral instead of feral...sadge)||

spice cairn
spice cairn
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disguising a political stance with a "were just trying to do the right thing here" is a very well played out tactic by hateful groups against others

shy wadi
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I honestly don't know what Discord's real intentions are. It just seems weird that they're implementing this so loosely. I mean, they could have it where ONLY government IDs are valid, but the fact that they're using some AI software to scan faces of people WITHOUT any ID verification, and then approving them anyway when it passes, not only seems questionable on its effectiveness, but also just plain doesn't make sense.

Is it truly to target certain groups? I can't say for sure because I haven't verified it yet, but I will say this - not only are people upset over this, but it seems that not everyone is subject to the new system; i.e. if they know you're an adult, then no verification is required. (Link below explains this.)

So @spice cairn and @restive rain, you both have solid points. As for me, I'm not gonna lean either way until I can personally find out more on this topic.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/discord-faces-backlash-over-age-checks-after-data-breach-exposed-70000-ids/

Ars Technica

Discord to block adult content unless users verify ages with selfies or IDs.

restive rain
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no way discord is finished imo

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this does not effect nearly enough people for there to be a mass exodus

spice cairn
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yeah but it shows that if they do something shitty that people are willing to look elsewhere

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it sends a message

forest cargo
# shy wadi I honestly don't know what Discord's real intentions are. It just seems weird th...

I like to think they're using the ai facial rec. Because they don't want to drive away everyone by requiring photo ID, but they didn't realize that we wouldn't like that either.
Pessimistic take is that they know people will be livid and leave if they require government id, but they want to make it look like they're doing something to protect the kids, so they put in place shitty easily bypassed ai age checks.

shy wadi
forest cargo
shy wadi
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I mean, they sound pretty similar TBH.

potent finch
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it's funny hearing Linus go "I don't know that much about lip-bu tan's leadership of Intel" as a guy that was immediately shitcanned when he became CEO

and also bringing light to Intel's current failure to adapt to demand for Data Center products

pretty obvious what kind of leader he is

did LBT think I was working in the Digital Camera/ Audio Player division or something? XD

restive crescent
restive rain
woeful crescent
tacit drift
tender prism
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I guess investors were scared Discord was being used by people who engaged in less than ideal activities

tacit drift
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it also helps them collect more data on their users

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I don't like the government angle a lot of mainstream conversation settles on because the government could pretty easily make the link between you and your discord account if it wanted to, without an age verification system

tiny nimbus
spice cairn
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again and loudly so those in the back can hear it... IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN

spice cairn
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fucking useless pos

tiny nimbus
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It’s been web-only for eighty-four two years

spice cairn
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insane

tiny nimbus
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Netflix is still a hold-out, doesn’t even allow its iPad app to launch on Vision Pro

spice cairn
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and how they thought this was going to "replace the smart phone" was such a pipe dream

restive rain
spice cairn
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🙄

restive rain
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🙄

tiny nimbus
brittle moon
# spice cairn it wasn't already???

not only was it not already, they took down an app someone made for the avp that allowed you to watch youtube. even though it followed all terms

spice cairn
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_(\

tulip hatch
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WAN show was better when it was early

woeful crescent
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I prefer it late.. early wans often start while I'm still at work, and I feel like they are generally shorter too as they are early cause they have to leave at a set time..

tiny mauve
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Completely forgot WAN's today

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I might miss it, I wanna move my sleep time earlier to catch next week testing in its entirety

molten quartz
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lmao the AI bot for LLT

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"merch"

molten quartz
brittle moon
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Discord Threw It All Away - WAN Show February 13, 2026

restive rain
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interested to see what they say about this topic

woeful crescent
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Same as most people I'd assume.. Rabble Rabble.. "So you're gonna stop using it?" "Okay lets not talk crazy now.."

restive rain
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lmao

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yea, probably similar to what happened with shitter

woeful crescent
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Agree with the outrage or not, I've seen this story play out before :p

restive rain
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everyone says they are going to switch but none of the other platforms have the engagement or the pull to get people to actually switch, so shitter is still the most used

woeful crescent
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I've seen maybe 3 people say they are gonna switch lol.. most are just "I cancelled nitro".. "I sent a STRONGLY worded email.."

restive rain
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unless they like talking to a wall

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or they are in a small group and can keep the whole group switched

woeful crescent
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Ya I don't actually expect anyone to leave.. I saw people say that when they first did this for the UK, one or two were gone for like a week.. but that coulda been just a long biobreak :p

restive rain
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i also think that this is partly just internet loud minority voice type situation too, I haven't heard a single IRL friend who I know uses discord talk about it at all lol

woeful crescent
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To be fair, ""normal"" people won't notice till the popup happens asking them to do it

restive rain
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and like especially if they are correct that most users wont have to do anything because of the age estimation model i really don't think anyone is going anywhere LUL

woeful crescent
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The Wyze commerical was better :p

restive rain
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based off a data package I have from july and assuming they use the same/similar model to the ads predictions i should be fine kappa

restive rain
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no non no persona is just a limited experiment for the UK, there is nothing to say they are switching everywhere

tiny mauve
restive rain
tiny mauve
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K, thx

restive rain
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normally the package shows up within a week

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depends how much data you request LUL

tiny mauve
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I've requested only the ads data, when it arrives I'll ask for the rest

restive rain
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you can only do it once a month

tiny mauve
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Eh, I can live with that

restive rain
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one issue i got with wan is the mics are always wayyy to sensitive, got to turn my volume down to reduce some of the mouth noise

woeful crescent
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I want Linus to call Wendell.. I wanna see him explaining how to do something in Linux to Linus, and Linus getting more confused :p

woeful crescent
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Creator Warehouse 1, Linus 0

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"I'm not gonna confirm.." "The name is the third word in the description.."

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I think Tatiana loved the photoshoot..

woeful crescent
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I remember Linus doing a video at his house where he even showed off some Anker stuff, saying along the lines of "Dropped them as a sponsor, still love some of their stuff.."

tender prism
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You're yelling at nobody here

random trout
random trout
spice cairn
timid ruin
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"I didn't beat her, I was just being passionate!" llamaLikeThisI

tiny mauve
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FU. I was about to send that

timid ruin
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As someone coming from a family with a history of parental violence based on a parent "just being passionate" I'm not a fan of the "being passionate" defence in any way, so....

(I don't oppose the meme, it applies)

tiny mauve
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FWIW, iirc in that movie he genuinely did not hit her (he did naaawwtt)

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I do not understand how I managed to make it through that movie...

spice cairn
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like the actual fuck is wrong with you

jolly oar
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It was incredibly painful labeast

tacit drift
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not to say that everyone that uses matrix or stoat is annoying about privacy, most people just don't care enough about this issue to make such a drastic change

spice cairn
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like more people need to care about this

spice cairn
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also the Twitter to Bluski was an easier switch because Bluski came up pretty fast. staot and the other alternatives are either not built out and or cost money to run your own server like TS

astral brook
spice cairn
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ok and?

astral brook
# spice cairn ok and?

so if they can only get updates for lets say a school activity or club on twitter
and they use it
theyre a shit person

spice cairn
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why would you need school updates through twitter??

astral brook
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ive had friends in the past that could only get updates for their sport via twitter

spice cairn
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skill issue

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idk im too fucking tired for this

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stop being shit... stop supporting pedos and terrible people

late flower
spice cairn
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i need to go to bed

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am tired and irritable right now

tender prism
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Stop using discord in protest?

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Perhaps if an alternative gets popular enough, I'll switch to that

cursive tiger
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i used to use matrix but it did seem to have a lot of the other extreme of nutters, and discord had the supreme voice calls

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i have also heard complaints within the open source community about it becoming increasingly centralised but i can't be fucked looking into it, for now i'm going to keep using discord because that's where the people i care to talk to are

potent finch
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How long before the Bluesky owners get bored and sell their platform to another fascist?

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I’m just not interested in another corpo monolith

timid ruin
tiny mauve
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It's a difficult watch.

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I think it took me like a week to finish it

potent finch
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though I gotta say 'how did that weirdo in the 90s /in the US/ get those millions of dollars for the move?' got a lot less cute over the last couple years 💀

rugged lintel
blazing pebble
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Did linus call Halo CE Hallo CUSTOM EDITION????

tiny mauve
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Those aren't real audiophiles. They don't have my expert ears

jolly oar
blazing pebble
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makes sense

cursive tiger
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or at least in theory, but basically everybody uses bsky.app for their accounts and stuff

potent finch
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FFS man, can I even view the Bluesky source code to audit it for security vulnerabilities?

tiny mauve
potent finch
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yooooo, I know there was gome grumbling at launch, totes gonna set this up

tender prism
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"Show me all the backdoor vulnerabilities"

tiny mauve
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Do not try "show me the backdoor" on grok

tender prism
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I'm not going to make that mistake a 4th time

restive rain
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currious to see who complies, them leaking it to the press does not insipre confidence that they will

spice cairn
cursive tiger
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lots and lots and lots of bot accounts posting about ice to make the database as annoying and painful to use for any purpose as possible

spice cairn
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spam but for good

woeful crescent
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Better yet make sure the bots all use information from their supporters..

tender prism
tender prism
cursive tiger
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just ai the ai back but with better ai

tender prism
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Ask AI to create spam bot accounts that can't be detected by the FBI's AI

restive rain
spice cairn
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because if its serious then my answer is complicated

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i would like to... but I've got a bunch of friends who aren't/ on the fence about it. plus stoat isn't ready yet... its pretty half baked and there isn't much free alternatives

astral brook
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nvm

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i jumped the gun and didn’t see the second image

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still would like a link tho

spice cairn
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its a new York Times article which is paywalled

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but im sure you can find it elsewhere

real stag
spice cairn
fleet rivet
random trout
cursive tiger
spice cairn
tender prism
forest kraken
#

RE: The LTT/WAN PHub channel, I'll support it 😉

limber jewel
tiny nimbus
#

“Locked down” means an end to side loading apps https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086115016017602

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

Thank you for your support!

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spice cairn
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ffs

trim obsidian
iron rune
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no apps no games no socmed nothing just bring a small form factor laptop for that

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especially no socmed that shit is unhealthy as is

tender prism
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Pretty sure 99% of people never thought about side loading apps. Sad that it'll affect some people heavily but understand that the vast vast majority of people won't be affected nor do they care

restive rain
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youtube algo is down LUL kinda a w ngl

tacit drift
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I have at least five different browser plugins to get rid of the YouTube algorithm so now the only place it shows up is when I use the search bar and it still manages to piss me off

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especially when I’m looking for the answer to which is the best of a kind of product typically made by gibberish dropshipper brand names on amazon

cursive tiger
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
# astral brook android is dead ig

until apple can properly pull off £250 phones i don't see android budging, and quite frankly apple couldn't care less about the low end market

cursive tiger
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google's insane market domination has damn near nothing to do with their software actually being good, it's just by far the cheaper option and works well enough most people will pick it over the alternatives

iron rune
cursive tiger
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fair
i have facebook but only for local community stuff, and also instagram but i haven't used that in years

tiny mauve
tiny mauve
cursive tiger
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yeah i put it in the same category with line and whatsapp

tacit drift
tiny nimbus
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yaaaaay everything is fucked

pcgamer.com/hardware/memory/ma…

"Consumer electronics will see a large number of failures. From the end of this year to 2026, many system vendors will go bankrupt or exit product lines due to a lack of memory. Mobile phone production will be reduced by 200-250 million units, and PC and TV production will be significantly reduced."

I did tell you in December to get upgrading/replacing absolutely as soon as possible: pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/04/ai-…

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limber jewel
brittle scarab
spice cairn
brittle scarab
spice cairn
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I've never sideloaded that's not why im on Android. however i recognize how important it is while also having an open to have systems that are open source

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even if you never intend to sideload this will effect everyone which is the most fucked up thing here

wicked inlet
# tiny nimbus “Locked down” means an end to side loading apps https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/...

They've already confirmed that there will at least be a bypass that is essentially identical to iOS sideloading:
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-security-answering-your-top.html

we are also introducing a free developer account type that will allow teachers, students, and hobbyists to distribute apps to a limited number of devices without needing to provide a government ID.

I remember predicting they'd do exactly this back when the news first came out. Just seemed like the obvious path to ensure the EU would be okay with it, since they've had no objections to the way it's done on iOS.

potent finch
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Gotta give Anker respect, every product of theirs I bought (before the Eufy thing came to light) is still running like a champ

woeful crescent
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Ya Ankers issue was generally how they responded than the products themselves.. even without Eufy, it was bad, but a meaculpa at the start and working to fix it would have left a totally different taste in people’s mouths..

crude sandal
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It's the management that's the issue

potent finch
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ayuup, def not defending management (think LTT covered that pretty well with their plan)

it's just funny that Anker and Nvidia are in that catagory of "hate what the management are doing, but can't really argue with the product"

tender prism
brittle scarab
potent finch
#

It’s also funny that I’ve never been able to successfully boycott one of these charger companies, I have one Anker unit and one Ravpower (remember them? Lmao) and they’re just chugging along, I guess i probably would have been suckered into one of those units with the robot face

brittle scarab
tender prism
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I'll do my boycotting when my mortgage is fully paid off

astral brook
vague garden
#

> be nerds
> look into persona (used by discord)
> kyc (know your customer) service
> used for age verification
> search on internet (shodan)
> find weird server
> image 1
> openai-watchlistdb.withpersona
> openai-watchlistdb-testing.withpersona
> lolwtf
> look inside
> supposed to be behind cloudflare to hide ip
> openai messed up
> not behind cloudflare
> real ip shown
> using google cloud
> lookup cert history
> 2023-11-16 created
> 2024-02-28 gets cert
> 2024-03-04 prod goes live…

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more updates on last weeks topic

tiny mauve
restive rain
vague garden
timid ruin
limber jewel
#

Did any of you get this discord age verification thing yet? It has not prompted me so far

random trout
# limber jewel Did any of you get this discord age verification thing yet? It has not prompted ...

Nope. It's not early March yet.

Beginning with a phased global rollout to new and existing users in early March, users may be required to engage in an age assurance process to change certain settings or access sensitive content. This includes age-restricted channels, servers, or commands and select message requests.
https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally

limber jewel
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Problem solved

mental olive
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I wish the WAN show had a (way better?) mouth click filter 🥀 I seriously cannot listen to it at times

limber jewel
restive rain
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the gain or something on the mics are always way to high

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they need to turn it down

rugged lintel
mental olive
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mouth noises to do with saliva

ember hinge
#

A topic for Wan, LTT should look about what's going on in Spain with soccer. La Liga have the power, by court decree, to force the ISPs to block the IPs of services that use cloudflare and now they won a case to block VPNs like Nord and Proton, all in an effort to stop pirate streaming of games. The problem is that isn't just blocking pages that stream soccer matches, but everything that use cloudflare, people playing online been disconnected at the same time of matches been played, or using any other service unrelated to soccer

potent finch
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alright, maybe I can see where Canadians are coming from

flat carbon
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Security researchers claim Persona, the provider behind Discord's UK age verification 'experiment', performs '269 individual verification checks' on user data, including those for terrorism and espionage

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and of course behind it all is peter thiel

restive rain
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crazy how they couldn't have just used one of the like 20 other companies ACTUALLY ACTIVLY using persona

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like idk Roblox, who is definitely verifying mostly children??

brittle moon
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Gamers Overwhelmingly Prefer Fake Resolution - WAN Show February 20, 2026

round ermine
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Made it in time

woeful crescent
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Preshow is live

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And has been :p

round ermine
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main show aint

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i made it

woeful crescent
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Pre-show best-show

round ermine
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Wait

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This isn't a bit?

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An ACTUAL marriage on the WAN show

glossy apex
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I'm sorry what

iron rune
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absolute cinema

low zodiac
round ermine
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Luke looks so awkward

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Very much "What do I do with my hands?" energy

iron rune
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most scuffed wedding in the world

round ermine
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No, there is probbaly more scuffed

woeful crescent
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The wife must be getting a hell of a honeymoon or second ceremony for this :p

round ermine
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This is an example of Linus's most commited relationship: To the bit.

low zodiac
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Doesn't seemed thrilled

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G rated kiss

stark shell
# round ermine

TRADE OFFER-- You receive: 1 bride. I receive: Fucking with Linus live on WAN

round ermine
brittle moon
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that was crazy

round ermine
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Certainly up there for one of the wildest things to happen on WAN

iron rune
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dan rocking that john wick getup

round ermine
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But yeah I thought the background was Chinese New Year stuff too

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The paper lantern ball things

stark quiver
olive bronze
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not everyone can say they can link their wedding to their family and friends on youtube

abstract mist
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I love that it took linus like 5 minutes to remove his headphones. I love this weird energy 🥰 it’s something I’d definitely do too

knotty flint
formal monolith
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Add in vr hes describing Vrmmos from the korean/jp novels lol

round ermine
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The thing is regarding the iGPU talk

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The performance gap between iGPUs and dGPUs is still the same

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It's just that graphical demands have been platauing

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And now iGPUs are catching up

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This is why GPUs have been aging so well

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It used to be that you needed to get a new GPU every year. Then eveyr two years. Then you could skip a generation

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There have been fewer and fewer major technology releasing in graphics.

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The last major tech to release was Raytracing. 8 Years ago.

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The RTX 2000s were 2018

wicked inlet
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LPCAMM2 should've been a viable option, but I haven't seen it anywhere really. It's specced for 8533 MT/s, even higher than the 8000 MT/s in strix halo systems like the framework desktop

round ermine
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Strix Halo is like, an RTX 3060 in GPU performance?

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Well the 3060 can play all games perfecty fine despite being 6 years old

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But that is still the same 6 year gap that iGPUs have had behind dGPUs for like 20 years

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So no, it's not iGPUs catching up to dGPUs, it's graphical demands platauing and now the iGPUs have reached that.

plain aurora
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thats what i get for background noise

round ermine
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I think Nvidia is keeping Geforce as an emergency back up

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Because AI is gonna crash eventually

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ANd it would be legendarily stupid to put all their eggs into that

#

Pokemon FIreRed is probably the most emulated GBA game

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And is also probably the single most rommodded game in all of emulation

random trout
round ermine
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The Gen 2 games were the GOAT

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My first game was Pokemon Red on a Gameboy Pocket

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And I liked it. Played it a lot

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But Pokemon GOld with my Gameboy Colour is what made me fall in love with Pokemon

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And I played a lot of Gen 3 too, but I went back to my copies of Gold and Crystal more often than with Sapphirewhen I had a GBA

full coyote
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My first pokemon game was violet (got into Pokémon when I was like 14, am 18 now) and tbh I think like gen 7 was my favorite playing through the older ones

round ermine
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Porygon was my favorite Gen 1 mon

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SHame it was useless

dusk basin
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ok catching up... did I just witness a wedding?

round ermine
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Vulpix and Growlithe were different versions

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Luke talking shit on my Porygon pick immediately after I said I loveit

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Voltorb is B A L L

stark quiver
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Confirmed WAN Bingo tiles

forest kraken
tiny mauve
#

Also, Dennis is gone ||😢||, it should be Riley now

plain aurora
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I can’t believe gamefreak hasn’t released the older games pokemon on a switch cart, i so would.

plain aurora
silver fossil
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She’s a bigger nerd than I am and it’s amazing

timid ruin
restive rain
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at least they correctly claim discord is no longer using persona

wanton token
timid ruin
# random trout I have not.

It's an unofficial fan version, that was taken down by Nintendo, but it's still a good one. Classic style, really hard without careful team planning and it's still maintained by the devs (as long as you have the original game files). They have an extra type (nuclear), the whole storyline includes a lot of references to this typing. It's fun.

knotty flint
tiny mauve
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So over the top... I love it

native kraken
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so i was listening to the wan show while driving to work

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and suddenly theres a wedding

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what

shadow beacon
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Lmao the intro of this week's wan is so much funnier with the context that Linus didn't know the decorations were for a wedding and not the Chinese new year

restive rain
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wedding onw an is craaaazy work LUL

cursive tiger
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i can't believe we got a wedding on wan and it wasn't luke and emma

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it is the perfect way to advertise wedding rings though lol

tiny nimbus
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Hope Thorum’s covering the honeymoon too, W business team regardless

tulip hatch
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Digimon is better than Pokemon

woeful crescent
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Dell and their history of over engineering solutions to real problems

crude sandal
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The connector has a potential problem if not used properly? Let's get Amphenol to fix the issue KEKW

spice cairn
restive rain
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and also good thing that its not required to have an account

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its just so impossible for anyone to use facts

spice cairn
restive rain
spice cairn
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i wasn't aware

restive rain
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Thats the problem with these types of posts

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facts dont matter when we got outrage babbyyyy

cursive tiger
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and even if they did keep the whole persona thing as is it's still uk only

spice cairn
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bro shut up

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how do you think any of this is ok

late flower
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here we go again

spice cairn
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idk about you but i rather not let my rights be taken away

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and just because they seem quiet about it... and because they "say" we'll look into different options doesn't mean its over

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why trust those who have shown us that they are not to be trusted

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you all are the types of people who are the real problem here. your the reason why this shit just happens, why they think they can walk all over the rest of us.

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stay mad

restive rain
spice cairn
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even when they back off, be pissed that they even thought about trying to fuck everyone over

restive rain
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wont be very easy

spice cairn
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its not as simple and id much rather Discord go back and fix the good will they've destroyed

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but that keeps loud and constant pressure from EVERYONE

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laying down and just accepting this isn't the right move

tiny mauve
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Man, I can't put into words how much I'd love it if discord made it so blocked messages didn't show up at all...

restive rain
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Might be nice if it was a toggle, but in a real time chat app it could lead to a bit of confusion kappa

maybe a 3 tiered system, blocked & can expand, block & can't expand, and none at all

tiny mauve
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H*ck I'd give them a selfie with my gov ID for it

restive rain
tiny mauve
restive rain
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Fair, discord might not like that for the product though lol, maybe some day

tiny mauve
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I'm almost hoping they make ID mandatory, just so some people decide to hop off for good

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Almost

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I don't want that

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But I'm almost hoping

restive rain
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nahh i would def have an issue if it went mandatory, and would def kill the app lol

tiny mauve
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Cuz fuck me sharks constant ranting is fucking annoying and it's seemingly unstoppable

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At least the topic of ranting has changed recently

late flower
tiny mauve
cursive tiger
spice cairn
timid ruin
# tiny mauve Cuz fuck me sharks constant ranting is fucking annoying and it's seemingly unsto...

I mean, most channels have community rules for behaviour and unnecessary swearing and such, where rudeness and obnoxiousness earns you timeouts or bans. You shouldn't need government ID for moderation, it's just that this server has very minimal moderation that's not related to scammers or bots. So I completely feel you, although I honestly don't mind seeing the blocked messages all over chat. On occasion I unblock something when there's a conversation and the blocked messages seem to be appropriate (I have multiple users blocked for just general tediousness), so knowing there's a blocked message is actually useful. I do appreciate that blocked users can't ping me tho.

wanton token
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Being loud is easy and changes nothing

full coyote
ember hinge
cursive tiger
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in todays episode of america misuses all that money they don't have, ...

tender prism
oblique fossil
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<@&750150305383186585> Please take a look at @spice cairn messages.

Super toxic in violation of Rule 2

And this a repeated thing, just look at the previous messages in the WAN channel.

late flower
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^

versed grail
restive rain
versed grail
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I only heard that Discord was going to partner with Persona, this is the first I'm hearing of that partnership actually being cancelled.

restive rain
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Yea news be that way

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it was first reported on the 14th by Kotaku that it was dropped

versed grail
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Given the global climate, I suppose this is as good an outcome as we could hope for.

restive rain
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A new spoiler channel option. We know many communities use age-restricted channels not for adult content, but for topics people prefer to engage with on their own terms: spoilers, politics, and heavier conversations. We’re building a dedicated spoiler channel option so communities don’t have to age-gate their server just to give members that choice.
i think this addresses one of your concerns if im not mistaken @spice cairn

cursive tiger
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isn't that the sort of thing the channels and roles menu is meant to do ?

versed grail
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Currently, from what I've seen in the servers I'm in, most of them have a bot handling those, I think in this way it can be a feature within Discord itself

tiny mauve
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Just so y'all know: they've uploaded a BTS of DMS' wedding as a FP exclusive.

cursive tiger
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not the honeymoon ?

oblique fossil
spice cairn
tender prism
spice cairn
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yeah thats kinda the problem isn't it

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you all are too comfortable to really "rock the boat" while there are those really suffering from the shit thats taking place

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and until people do start to really rock the boat even tip it over... there wont be much in the way of change

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at the end of the day living in a fascist hell scape isn't living... and its not a world i ever want to be apart of. i say burn it down, fuck your bills and mortgages for those are chains to hold you down from a better world

tender prism
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Oh trust me I'd like to "fuck" my bills and mortgages but I need food, shelter, other basic necessities and many of the amenities that I've been used to

tiny nimbus
spice cairn
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thanks for giving me a reason to NEVER buy an Apple product as long as i live

timid ruin
cursive tiger
#

i mean you can genuinely be both, it's just really difficult

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it takes a lot of patience and effort

spice cairn
spice cairn
tiny nimbus
#

Oh you’re praying for an early WAN, not thankful for an early WAN. Was confused thinking they’d announced something

restive rain
woeful crescent
#

Ya I like Apples system best rather than having to hand over my id to every company that requires an age check.. same was as I do for CC’s using ApplePay..

oblique fossil
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Yep

woeful crescent
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And for all of Apples flaws, and there are many, once they have your data they don’t seem to sell or share it outside of court orders..

oblique fossil
#

I trust Apple the most out other tech companies

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They take security seriously

random trout
#

Idk. I haven't seen Apple's source code so I trust them about the same as anyone else. 🤷

woeful crescent
#

I trust them more due to how little security issues they have had, combined with how big of a target they are.. but end of the day nothing is 100%, it all has risks..

#

But if I’m gonna take risks, I’d go with the one that’s willing to act as the single point, while at the same time having earned the most trust from me.. vs a dozen companies and a dozen middlemen each wanting to see my data and for SURE not storing it or selling it or using it for any shady stuff … right? Right?

tiny nimbus
trim obsidian
random trout
#

I still remember the one time I paid with credit card at a restaurant in the USA about 10 years ago. The wait staff couldn't understand why I needed to come to the counter with my credit card to pay instead of just letting them run my card out of my sight. 😁

Like, 1) no absolutely not - I can't trust that you're not skimming my card and 2) it's against the cardholder agreement...

woeful crescent
#

I mean if I'm being real I assume my data was already leaked at the source, be it gov't or whatever :p But ya shaving as little and possible as much as possible is ideal, again going back to why I like the Apple plan, sure it involves sharing with them, but after that its minimal shared between other parties..

#

That'll come back to bite us if Apple gets hacked, or goes full Evil.. but still I'd rather roll my dice on that than giving dozens of places my data and hoping they ALL don't sell out or get hacked :p

oblique fossil
# woeful crescent I trust them more due to how little security issues they have had, combined with...

Thread 'iPhone and iPad Are First Consumer Devices Cleared for NATO Classified Data' https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-and-ipad-are-first-consumer-devices-cleared-for-nato-classified-data.2478264/

MacRumors Forums

The iPhone and iPad can be used with NATO restricted level classified information after meeting NATO's information assurance requirements, Apple said today. No special software or settings are required.

Apple's devices are the first and only consumer mobile products that have reached this...

woeful crescent
#

Ya Apple seems to really take it seriously.. beyond just parroting words about how much they care..

tiny nimbus
woeful crescent
#

Do No Evil

tiny mauve
#

Hm...
-# LibreWolf is always an option...

real stag
#

That story turned out to be a nothing burger

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lots of legal speak and a bad response from someone from mozilla that caused an uproar

tender prism
#

Welp is that back to windows?

brittle moon
#

also unless im misunderstanding, sounds like they just need to ask the user for their birthday. No face/id scans

tender prism
#

Oh that's not too bad

honest prawn
#

and that is just 1 out of 50 states and not the whole USA!

woeful crescent
#

Ya but then it'll become time to one up/down eachother.. one will demand photo id, the other will ban the OS from even asking your name :p

chilly heath
#

I thought Linus said they were stopping member only videos on youtube? They posted 3 within the past hour. (The next oldest members only video was posted 7 months ago.)

stark shell
#

WAN IS LATE

#

OH NO

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WHAT WILL WE DO?

magic matrix
#

which Youtube channel is going to be carrying WAN going forward?

stark shell
woeful crescent
#

Or maybe someone messed up..

round ermine
tiny mauve
magic matrix
#

im asking which channel is the 2nd one.

tiny mauve
#

Oh

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LMG Clips

round ermine
#

:O they gonna talk about Linux

#

PRESHOW LIVE

tacit drift
honest prawn
#

wouldn't say most important state...... the most blowharted state for sure! and not where they are all hq. ms is up in washington. And think of the kids argument is just the angle they are using to take control away from you and control freedom to information!

tiny mauve
#

Savage Luke

pulsar crane
#

What is Linus Eating ?

round ermine
#

But Linux is easy. I've had no issues with Fedora.

#

But my biggest recommendation to make Linux as painless as possible

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Have an AMD gpu if possible

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I had a 3070 up until like 4 months ago. I had so many little bugs and glitches

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And sleep mode didn't work right so like a third of the time the screen stayed black on wake

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So I had to reboot to fix that.

graceful swan
#

Oh the game They Killed Your Cat is great to flow through while you listen to WAN show.

round ermine
#

And several demanding games had awful frametimes and stutters regardless of quality settings. Marvel Rivals was the worst for this

#

Liuterally every problem has gone away now that I got a 6800XT

brittle moon
#

forgot to send this earlier

The Linux Challenge Is Going… - WAN Show February 27, 2026
tiny mauve
round ermine
#

Yeah

tiny mauve
#

It's still in my old SSD, but I've given up trying to fix it

round ermine
#

Nvidia is still problematice, and I am willing to bet money on that being the reason SteamOS is not official yeat

tiny mauve
#

I could still log via the terminal, but the DE was impossible to log in to

round ermine
#

Cause most gamers have Nvidia GPUs, and Valve doesn't want to release th OS without it being guaranteedfine on Nvidia

#

They do not want to deal with the torrent of people messaging them about their problems on their OS because they have Nvidia cards

woeful crescent
#

Linus needs to chill a bit..

tiny mauve
#

Linus is really butthurt about this

round ermine
#

Oh I have not been able to get the fingerprint reader on my Zephyrus G14 on Linux

graceful swan
#

why aren't they doing this on the show? lol

olive bronze
#

did he install steam as like, an app, or did he install the steamOS?

woeful crescent
#

I forget, this was an OLD Linux challange..

round ermine
#

They used a specific hardware vendor for the shape of the button and that vendor only has closed source drivers for it

woeful crescent
#

Oh wait no it was the App

#

Pre-SteamOS

#

I think it was even at the old house

round ermine
#

ANd nobody have assed themselves to figure it out

olive bronze
#

he's got a point though, just about everything in linux puts out a big nasty warning

round ermine
woeful crescent
#

Ya but THAT wearning is a big one.. sure you get asked stuff before, but being asked to confirm that way.. RED FLAG..

olive bronze
#

but i've installed steam into linux without a problem

woeful crescent
#

You can't really argue it wasn't a RED FLAG.. you CAN argue that Linus is desensitized..

round ermine
#

Distros like Fedora are getting pretty damn easy.

coral breach
#

quick question (mainly for preshow watchers), what should i expect from preshows? i downloaded twitch just because i wanted to see the preshow, first time i see a preshow, first time i use twitch in general.

round ermine
#

But I might be biased, I am an intermediate linux user by now

jolly oar
#

all this Linux talk is a good reminder that I wanted to replace Debian on my surface laptop with Linux Mint

because I don't like GNOME it's poo poo

olive bronze
#

is the preshow on twitch?

woeful crescent
#

Yes

sleek kayak
#

Meme format

round ermine
#

Like, I usually manually edit my fstab file upon fresh install to get my drives just right

#

And I know that could be a lot for some

sleek kayak
#

Also, did linus wake up grumpy today? KEKW

woeful crescent
#

And for what its worth, if its a New OS, and you don't know the "heirachary" or OS warnings, that when you stop on them, and find out.. not just keep on going..

tiny mauve
sleek kayak
tiny mauve
#

So the butthurtedness go back in anticipation of the Linux bros backlash

woeful crescent
#

Luke has had enough.. Linus needs to drop it and move on.

sleek kayak
jolly oar
molten quartz
#

anyone on pre show right now?

jolly oar
#

yes I'm loving it

sleek kayak
#

I am

molten quartz
#

its great

olive bronze
#

yeah they havent run the credits yet

molten quartz
#

the way luke reacted to him talking over him was funny haha

#

XDDDDDDDD
][

#

Holy shit

spark tulip
#

I need popcorn...

sleek kayak
#

I havent seen them argue like this in a while

woeful crescent
#

Yep.. Luke has had enough.. co-owner flex

tiny mauve
molten quartz
#

xd

olive bronze
#

i think linus is in the wrong here

sleek kayak
woeful crescent
#

100%... him getting annoyed at the start, ya, fine, fair.. but that ended 20min ago :p

#

Linus's issue is often that he doesn't know how to move on..

sleek kayak
#

True friendship arguement lol

woeful crescent
#

And this is just one of the rare times the other party is in the room with him

tiny mauve
#

Fuck sake

#

An ad

#

I hadn't suffered through one of these in ages

woeful crescent
#

And thats why I Turbo.. that and I watch a dozen or so streamers..

tiny mauve
#

The horror

sleek kayak
tiny mauve
sleek kayak
#

oof

bronze adder
#

This is deff going to be clipped and talked about for weeks

#

That apology, in my eyes seemed just for public view

jolly oar
#

Dan on the other side of the camera:

woeful crescent
#

Probably, but then again with how well they know eachother, any apology might seem.. forced.. cause both of them would just move on.. rather than do anything formal, much less infront of a camera for an audience :p

tiny mauve
#

Not live on LMG Clips?

olive bronze
#

what does resume the selected even mean?

tiny mauve
#

There's a "resume the selected" button

olive bronze
#

ah

sleek kayak
#

Oh this video isn't out yet right?

#

Tried looking it for on the channel

olive bronze
#

the challenge is just starting, so it will be several weeks

sleek kayak
#

ah okay

round ermine
#

Oh my god stop using pop

#

just use one of the mainstream distros

#

Like Fedora or Ubuntu

coral breach
#

out of all emotes i got the one i least wanted

olive bronze
#

steamOS is based on arch, so if you want to best run steam it might be advisable to use something arch based

round ermine
#

Linus' thirteen reasons why

#

One of them being this Linux curse with how it's eating him

sleek kayak
#

I wish floatplane chat had more emotes

round ermine
#

Cause Bazzite ie better than SteamOS for most machines, and that's fedora silverblue based

olive bronze
#

that is so f-d up

#

i wonder if it had to do with workspaces

#

if he had steam on three work spaces

keen bloom
#

Hello

olive bronze
#

i have an older laptop from like 2013 and i have linux mint installed on it. unfortunately, because of its age, the laptop has like an 920m or something for the gpu, one of those super old ones that barely does anything. but i discovered if i install a kernel newer than something like 5, it completely kills the audio on the laptop because the kernel people randomly decided to remove support for older nvidia GPUs after a certain date. so I have to mod the updater to not update the kernel automatically.

keen bloom
#

how is everyone

#

well in this channel so far

olive bronze
#

they've spent like, over an hour talking about linux

#

its been the year of the linux desktop for like six years

keen bloom
#

does everyone here like the temps im geting i had to repaste my gpu

olive bronze
#

those are extremely low temperatures

keen bloom
#

ikr

full coyote
#

Also thats your igpu

keen bloom
#

yeah ik

#

it was like at 60 or like 63 under load

sleek kayak
#

Speaking of the indiana jones game, I never finished that because I came to game breaking bugs

#

I wonder if it finally got fixed.

keen bloom
#

Omg

#

Thats better than me

sleek kayak
#

Well I'm just watching Floatplane so it's barely doing anything

keen bloom
#

Ah yeah that makes sense

sleek kayak
#

It reaches like in the 70s on demanding games

#

Was playing HSR and GPU is in the 50s.

keen bloom
#

And also I screenshot the wrong gpu with the right temps ... whoops

bronze pilot
#

THERES A 2 LEVEL GO KART PLACE HERE????????????????????

olive bronze
#

it really astounds me how many things LMG has been successful at

sleek kayak
#

Bro what topic are we on

olive bronze
#

i dont think thats what vestigal means

#

he actually mean visceral. visceral is not vestigial

#

visceral means a gut, instinct feeling. vestigial means an evolutionary leftover like our tailbone

#

this is because streameers dont actually work with VPNs even though thats like the major marketing pitch for vpns

round ermine
#

STOP ALL DA DOWNLOADIN

#

They have brought this reference up before

tiny mauve
#

Just got to "eq your throat"

#

I'm uncomfortable

#

How do I talk to HR?

sleek kayak
#

Is there a way to change your username color in floatplane?

random trout
sleek kayak
#

Ah. Would be a cool feature to have

#

Wanted to change my color from orange to blue

olive bronze
#

the color is done through some kind of algorithm based on your username. So "dave" will be a different color than "dav"

#

if you change your username you may have to reload the page

woeful crescent
#

Only thing worse than being unable to change name colour its Twitch, where your name is a different random colour on every browser/device..

#

Oh and chat too, of course

olive bronze
#

its almost as bad on floatplane. users with white background may see different colors than people that force dark mode

woeful crescent
#

More than once streamer ""called me out"" for "changing my username colour" just because I switched from desktop to laptop lol

olive bronze
#

oh that too. if i brought up floatplane in iOS on my ipad it might be different too

woeful crescent
#

Or worse now, I have a MacMini next to my desktop and I often move twitch channels between them depending on my focus..

#

So I might not even move chairs and get different colours lol

#

Though on slow moving smaller channels I now make a conscious effort to manually set my colour..

olive bronze
#

YouTube suddenly hit with searches for “2 cigarettes 2 beers speed run”

woeful crescent
#

So there we go, YT memberships are back.. cause of a change to settings by YT to filter member only videos

olive bronze
#

I used to have a college classmate who owned a security/bodyguard business, and told us he used to be an “enforcer” when he lived in NYC

tiny mauve
#

I dream of the day Linus says "Dan, hit me" and Dan actually gets up and slaps him or something.
Like, I don't want it to hurt, but it would be too funny...

bronze pilot
lusty nova
#

skill diff

bronze pilot
bronze pilot
#

wait this isn't tc2

crude sandal
#

Wait what country are you in

bronze pilot
bronze pilot
crude sandal
#

And that's where you're wrong

spice cairn
bronze pilot
#

Ope never fucking mind I just checked again

#

In my defense

#

This is very much still a developing situation

drowsy ruin
#

Don't respond to that clown. They know absolutely nothing

#

It's why they won't let you leave reactions in their messages. Fucking clown

pastel fox
#

Latest WAN show> "Solid Rabbit Hole"... Rabbit with Constipation?

flat carbon
cursive tiger
woeful crescent
#

I sure they would get the STRONGEST worded email imaginable..

restive rain
#

Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store.
generic enough that it does not seem to require verification of said age

tiny mauve
molten quartz
#

the land of reasonably priced firearms, and extortionately priced pc parts

tulip hatch
#

"I have way too many of my passwords remembered by now" -Linus just Discovering using your brain to memorize your passwords.

#

(Context passwords managers is bad/worse)

blazing pebble
woeful crescent
tender prism
spice cairn
#

microslop

cursive tiger
#

like if someone had access to my bank account that would be bad but if they crack my jbhifi account then oh no they can reserve a set of speakers under my name, whatever will i do

slim gale
#

password managers are bad?!

#

if you use them wrong sure i guess

#

but just make a 8 word master password and memorize that, ezpz

brittle moon
# slim gale password managers are bad?!

iirc the main reason some people are against them is because its a single point of failure and then someone will have access to literally all of your accounts

tiny mauve
#

I just split passwords and 2FA between bitwarden (SH) & KeePass, respectively. Can be slightly annoying at times but I wouldn't remember more than a few PW anyway so I much rather do this. Plus, this way if I'm hacked they'd only have one of the 2 factors either way, so I'd probably have enough time to change PWs of everything I deem important enough to have 2FA for

random trout
#

Oh. Wait. Shit. Uh. Let's talk this through...
https://xkcd.com/538/

random trout
frosty tendon
#

+1 vote for bitwarden

restive rain
#

ive been pretty happy with apple passwords LUL

#

just the occasional issue with the windows extension & app

glad thorn
#

Rip Rtings

mossy socket
rugged lintel
potent finch
tiny mauve
spice cairn
tiny mauve
restive rain