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Jake should collab and pen test the Tech House
finally 🥹
I hope your ready for THREE HOURS of discussion on how the tech indutry is SLOWLY TURNING TO CRAP
Surely that will center you
Late wan show today ?
Steam machine and frame get delayed
It's not late?
My bad I got used to early WAN
It's never late, it's only 
Microsoft Finally Admits AI Sucks - WAN Show February 6, 2026
dan has said a few times its supposed to be 4:30. My assumption is that they are never anywhere near on-time anyway so they dont bother fixing it other places lol
5pm(ish) is closer to actual start time anyway 
Yamaha HS speakers WW choice
Also wan show and new j.cole album on the same day, today is a great day
Pretty sure that's for the pre-show. If it's for the official show start time then yeah they should update it everywhere. 👍
no, 4:30 is supposed to be the youtube (main show) time
1s lemme find the timestamp where he said that
Floatplane is a streaming platform offering exclusive creator-driven shows, tech reviews, and tutorials with high-quality, ad-free viewing on all your devices.
pre is on
wait whats the black thing he pulled out of the lid?
silicon ring, its purpose is providing a water tight seal when you close the lid
The fan art I mentioned.
there should be a special place in hell for people who plan olympics opening ceremonies
That’s the grip on the outside.
Show just started.
Wait.. a login button in ms-paint ?
It's great
Yes, sure, if you need the Ai features. If not... yeah, it really shouldn't be a thing.
I think its gone to far..... it reminds me of a time where i was soo pushed out of a ecosystem because it was so painful to do basic things
# ERROR: Discord Message Quota reached.
Please drink a Mountain Dew™ Verification™ Can™ to continue.
Didnt drink mountain dew in years
never had it at all
what is it, 7-up sprite?
when I was 15 it was nice haha cant beat a can of monster though
Lol Linus mad rant at 2 hours in about 2.5G networking
linus referencing the trump shart wasn't on my wan bingo card
When mud cables
Sound advice, Dan 😉 😂
would pay monthly for floatbook
Nobody needs faster than 0.1G networking anyways
Get a pet bird and just use IPoAC..
I think this is the method that Yvonne paid $50 to remove the pin locked samsung phone https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/other-galaxy-s-series/bypass-screen-pin-without-data-loss/td-p/10429905
booting the phone into safe mode can bypass the pin
Just got done listening to WAN and at some point Linus mentions that at some point the market will be flooded with AMD Epyc CPU's once data centers start to phase them out. Well I think we will run into the issue other than lack of motherboards like Linus mentioned but by the fact that Epyc CPU's can be vendor locked, I know Dell has vendor locked Epyc's, I'm not entirely sure if Supermicro and Lenovo do it but I know Dell 100% has
oh if dell is doing it they almost certainly all are
…vendor lock?
A feature on the board that when enabled trips a fuse in the CPU locking it to that vendor's board
Ahhhh so a dell board will only work with a dell enabled cpu.
Urgh.
No
Wrong way around
The CPU used in that board can only be used on a dell board
The CPU is not locked until it's been put in the board
Hey everyone, just got to the segment of yesterday's show where Linus mentions he's switching all out to Linux for a month.
I'm the developer of a prominent piece of software for using the Elgato Stream Deck on Linux, and they have Stream Decks on the show, and I was wondering what the best way would be for me to highlight this to the team?
It would be so amazing if they used my stuff!
Never-fucking-mind, pressed play and they immediately say that he'll touch Windows for WAN show :(
Hi all! I just saw the recent WAN Show, and I’ve been mulling around writing the organization an email for a while (since I bought your screwdriver and you can probably cross reference the timing on that haha) I’d like to introduce myself and explain how the WAN Show (and LMG) made me a better person. Over ten years ago Linus and Luke taught me (way back in their NCIX days) how to build a computer on YouTube. It ignited a passion in me about technology and just being curious about technology in general. I was just a random high school kid using my summer money to build a cool PC. It had a GTX760 and it was the best thing I’d ever had up until that point in my life. Since then I’ve become a history teacher at a vocational / career technical education school, where among other things, I teach students who want to enter the IT profession (and culinary, automotive, medical etc, I digress). I kept up with Linus and WAN throughout college, but I learned what I needed, and life moves on and you focus on other things. Over the last few years I’ve also used the skills Linus and Luke taught me to become an integral member of a restaurant LLC group, where when more prominent hacking brought Linus Media Group back into my radar.
I recently saw the clip about education (it was actually a clip titled “YouTube’s new changes are huge” ). As a veteran educator of 13 years, plus with a Masters in School Admin this May, I’m considering a PhD in education, in part based on research on how YouTube is done in schools. I think the LMG folks and the things I’m working on in the academic world can merge based on that clip.
If the LMG folks want to continue this conversation, let’s go, I’m right here haha.
Floatbook would go hard
Official contact information is available on https://linusmediagroup.com/
Thanks, I'll think about reaching out
the amount of effort Luke puts into raising his birds, they should have one of them host an LTT video
Well yeah, he only uses the WAN laptop for it's browser
The stream deck isn't connected to it, it's connected to dan
And the broadcasting software is windows only
i'm quite sure the stream decks are plugged into dan's computer which uses a bunch of windows only software that would be really hard to replace without needing to make an entirely new workflow
It’s nothing against Linux, it’s because they have a tried and true way to do WAN that works for them and it’s too “hot” to change.
I’m on windows because Adobe isn’t on Linux, plus I’ve known it all my life etc.
Change comes to a cost. It would be awesome to see wan on Linux but I can see why it’s on windows for sure
Also its worth letting them know about the StreamDeck tool.. I'm like 70% sure Linus has one of them for his computer at home.. Even if not its something he might want to mention.. Also Elijah streams and I thought he said he moved to Linux recently?
It's not exactly hard to find these projects
The top comment on the first Reddit result on google is that guy talking about it lol
https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally .. I wonder if Death Stranding photo mode still lets you bypass this nonsense..
I'm slightly reassured by the claim that the facial recognition (this time) doesn't leave the device that captures it. But only slightly
Well last time they said they didn't save the images.. and they didn't lie, it was their 3rd party that saved the images, then got hacked..
Hence the distinction between third-party image processing that happens off-device vs on-device
the K-ID system has always claimed to be this way
i mean to be acurate the zendesk tickets werent deleted yet, its not that the 3rd party was specifcally saving id pictures lol
im switching platforms once this shit goes into effect
the MOMENT discord asks me for an ID, I yeet it into the trash.
So they get to censor content by default unless you provide your government data to them.
Government Data is a stretch, unless they changed it so you can't just use a photo and NEED to give them ID..
End of the day this, or something like this, is in the pipeline for much of the world.. for better or worse Gov't are doing it.. I don't like it, but I don't blame Discord for trying to get ahead of it..
If the government wants verification they need to provide a proper way to verify
It starts with just the photo and over time you say the photo is no longer sufficient for small batches of accounts. Just enough that people don't realize what is going on but enough that the frog gets boiled anyway.
History has shown this is not the case, see the phub laws enacted in various places.. many places are find just passing a law then throwing up their hands and telling everyone else to figure it out..
i can comment at least in the case of new zealand because i live here and am familiar with how a lot of the systems here work, but something like tom scott proposed after the online safety act was put into effect in the uk would work here without too many changes needing to be made to existing systems
there's already a system of digital identity verification, and you could use that in a way similar to how oauth services work to "log in with realme", except instead of providing the actual website with all of the information on your id, they would only need to get a boolean value of whether or not you are of the appropriate age to view that content
and sure, this could be abused to log on the government side which services are being accessed and when, but i kind of think that's a moot point since that information is being collected by third parties anyway then leaked on the internet
Problem is you won't get that in the US, cause for reasons I can't grasp they are terrified of national id, and half the stats will do things differently than the other half the states just because they need to be themselves.. so they won't talk to eachother.. you'd end up with 40 different systems for 48 states (and 2 that just refuse outright) :p
Also given recent events, like DOGE doing their things, there are justified fears of what Data the Gov't collects and who has access and can use it.. see them using it to try and find immigrants, or state voter records..
There's some other reasons, but the bulk of it is that gun nuts are concerned that such a registry could be used somehow to take away their guns. The guns they supposedly have on hand to rebel against a tyrannous government infringing upon people's rights.
(This is why Real ID, which was initially conceptualized fairly soon after 9/11, only actually became needed for domestic air travel a few months ago)
This is why Apple’s passport-based Digital ID is cool. They’re the issuing authority rather than your local government, it works at just about every airport in the states for domestic travel and is completely transparent about what it shares when you present it. It can also be used by apps for age verification, sharing only an “older than x” flag and no PII.
Not familiar with it, seems its not available in Canada.. but that sounds like a good system, and for sure I trust Apple with my ID more than.. well.. probaby anyone other than myself.. which is really sad when you think about it lol
They claim not to store anything after verification, too. You scan + tap your passport and take a couple selfies, they confirm everything checks out (notably without government involvement), then issue the ID and delete the data you shared. The ID is then stored locally, in your phone’s wallet and can be used until expiration with zero additional info or usage data being shared with Apple. When you present it, it displays a list of all the data it’s going to share prior to confirmation.
Google has an equivalent as well, also limited to the US for now afaik. Hopefully both will reach the broader world at some point…
yeah i would 100% expect it to be received badly there, but new zealanders usually have a very different attitude more in favour of a larger government, and the current systems and policies are most of the way there anyway
we also just don't have nearly as federal a government as the usa, local governments pretty much manage building consents, some transport and utilities like water and rubbish collection, and beyond that basically all decisions are made on a national level because we're a small country and you can do that
yeah this sounds a lot like realme but fully privately owned
a lot of other countries also have similar systems, especially in europe, so it makes a lot of sense that apple isn't pushing it too hard internationally
I doubt Discord leadership thinks it’s a good idea.. at least beyond what it’s actually there for, to make it look like they are thinking of the children to politicians.. I 100% think this is just them trying to get ahead of these laws in other countries and keep their name out of the politicians mouths when they talk about the evils on X and Roblox
First level will be an estimated age via a model, if that can’t determine you will be asked to do on device face scanning or upload an ID to K-ID if you want to access nsfw channels/servers, disable message reqs, view sensitive media, or talk on stages.
*enable message reqs. The teen setting disables msg reqs as a default.
no disable message requests, message requests are on by default for teen users
the whole point of message requests is to filter unknown users lol, it wouldn't make any sense for teen users to have them force disabled
tried to be fancy and mask the link but its blcoked so you get to see the ugly link 
To my understanding, you shouldn't be getting any message requests whatsoever, nor messages, unless it's a contact. If someone tries messaging you they should be getting an error saying that the person has no DMs enabled.
At least that's what makes sense to me for a minor. They shouldn't even have the option of accidentally receiving a message request from a rando
incorrect, dms will still be enabled, they will just filter them all into message requests
the toggle to disable message requests will be age locked, the toggle to disable dms will not be
That makes little sense, since message requests still pop up as pings (unless notifications are disabled either completely or custom-set). Especially since you're still getting the first line of messages before you can block or accept it. So honestly, as this thing already exists and isn't super useful in "filtering" messages, I find it utterly useless
It would make a lot more sense that DM's to non-friends are just disabled by default but you can still send friend requests.
I highly doubt that I have ever received a DM that wasn't a message request first, and came from someone not already on my contact list.
The funny thing is the limited version is how it should be by default. 99% of unsolicited DMs are spam messages so send 'em to the spam folder.
I have literally 0️⃣ spam DMs 💁♂️
But I'm also in very few servers and I'm pretty sure I have most of them blacklisted for unsolicited DMs
yea message reqs are on by default
i created a new discord account a few weeks ago and the default is to have message requests
but if you have an older account sounds like they kept it off to preserve old behaviour
LMAO, I literally can't discuss the WAN show on the WAN show chat, thx Mod tools =b
oof maybe they shouldn't have made this app allow kids on it then... because it used to be 17+ (which i argue is still too early but you get the idea)
but FUCKING APPLE had to be a bitch about its rating on the app store
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
children shouldn't have access to chats that allow DM's, voice and video in said DM's
I mean, without verifying peoples ages, how do you even prove that the users at 17+?
the expectation is there
Apple can, sure, but what about on Desktop and such..
its on the parents to actually fucking parent
Ya we can't burry our heads and pretend that parents parent anymore..
like why do i now have to be responsible and baby sit some snot nose kid because little timys mommy and daddy couldn't be fucking asked to figure out how to rise there child
Remember when the Phone was in the Kitchen.. on the wall.. with a cord that was 3ft long? And the computer was in a common room, in full view of everyone, and make a racket every time you tried to conenct to the world at large? :p
i never wanted to have children so why am i now being forced to hand over my life because of stupid kids i don't even know
no i skipped that
for real tho they shouldn't be welcome on Discord like fuck off, go outside or some shit
They shouldn't be, but the fact is, without Discord (or some other org) doing the age checks, then they would be.. its just the reality of the world now..
Did you go outside much when you were a kid?
Saying no one under X age on a site hasn't worked.. well.. ever really.. but now its really a joke without some verification.. which used to be give them your CC info.. I'd rather give a pic of my face than my CC personally :p
how is that my problem tho?? it should be on the parents to actually fucking teach there kids
Bc the way you speak sure makes it seem like "no" is the answer
I went outside once.. it was horrible..
didn't have internet till i was 14
Therese this big ball in the sky trying to give me cancer..
went outside a lot
Also for what its worth, I'm also not of the idea that blocking social media for anyone under X age is good either.. There are lots of people who for better or worse get a lot more social benefit out of it.. Not everyone can just go outside and have friends and fun and people that get them..
anyways i rather have people with children do there fucking jobs as parents then have to deal with this bs. cause you fucking KNOW that they don't actually care either
its not about protecting kids its about protecting there bottom line
yeeep
But seriously a lot of the laws have that as at least the excuse.. but even on that level is flawed..
we just take every kid at birth and stick them in a featureless cubicle with a nutrient paste dispenser until they're 25, that way they can't be exposed to any objectionable content whatsoever until its time to enter the workforce!
this will respect the child safety laws in every country!
Since I'm not a kid anymore, or for a long while now.. I'm down for this.. also would make the mall much nicer experience.. hell I might even visit a theater again!
Not the Pall Mall tho 
But yeah, in Denmark malls are actually pretty okay. In our local mall you mostly run into families with kids tbh. It's really not unpleasant
I visit my local mall to get the best Chinese food in town. Go in, order to go, make a hasty exit.
I hear stories from (maybe not Denmark, but maybe within 500 miles or so?) of mothers leaving their kids in their prams outside coffee shops with no fear
Oh, the food corner is actually pretty pleasant if you don't go there during weekend lunch rush hours.
That's Denmark. We also don't know what miles are 
It's typically babies that sleep in the prams
i'm so used to mixing up the Nordic countries I just default to being wrong XD
It's cold, quiet, and people don't cram up the space. Everyone wins.
But also, people here have giant prams. Like, you have huge cars, but I've seen prams that take up most of the pram space on the bus (and it's designed to hold two normal sized prams or 3 smaller travel buggies).
And then we swap to family cargo bikes. Those are pretty rad. Cars are for people with too much money (parking space costs are insane, and most street parking is heavily limited to 30min-2hrs range - unless ofc you have a family house and your own garage)
So I'm guessing most people here won't verify themselves on discord. What are the content that we'll be locked out of? I can't imagine theres too many nsfw spaces
I'm one of them; here's part of a message I composed and then sent to some Discord servers:
So I just heard about the announcement of Discord making it where government issued IDs and face scans are going to be mandatory next month for verification purposes all over the world. Frankly, I don't like it at all. I've never needed to use an ID for internet accounts, and there's no way in hell that I want my personal face scanned - I like my internet anonymity.
...What's worse, I've made friends on Discord. I have chatted with various indie creators, artists, and even YouTube personalities. I am in multiple servers that I value very much as a part of my identity as a person. It's also where I seek the most support, by connecting to people in real time and asking questions, getting help. If I get my account blocked, I lose a big part of that. This is no small thing for me - THIS IS HUGE. Discord has become a part of my life, and it will be difficult to migrate away from that.
...I already have plans to spread out my social presence, so any impact on my Discord account would be less damaging. I'll let you guys know in a near-future announcement what I decide.
Currently trying out Stoat.
It's... not verifying my email. 🤔
I can't see the message, for some reason.
well said btw
unless your a furry... and also in the adult LGBTQ+ space which those cross over heavily
Discord making it where government issued IDs and face scans are going to be mandatory next month
incorrect, they are not going to be forced in most circumstances
(unless you want to access nsfw channels or speak in stages)
fwiw ive heard not great things about stoat formally revolt
mainly admin abuse & severe right wing stuff, i would do some more research into it though, i dont know the specifcs
If you dont verify you will be locked out of nsfw channels/servers/commands, unable to disable message requests, unable to disable senstiive content filters, and unable to speak on stages
admin abuse and right wing stuff?
what i heard, you would have to go verify for yourself
i can verify its not a thing
https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/s/lA992ErKmZ
good to know its not a thing
well i am one of the developers
the fuck they mean "alt left"
fucking insane take by the the first commenter
Surely the alt-left/right problem can be solved by trying to rebuild there the communities that you've built on discord instead of simply joining random public servers from the discover page?
while thats all there doing now, whos to say they wont require it later
whatifism
what if the world ends tomorrow?
then id be dead
its different? why should we be fine with them violating our privacy now
just because it only blocks some content
it just sets a precedent
Because it'd be entirely stupid to?
discord can sometimes be dense but they are not stupid enough to fully self implode the app
its not "whatifism" when they've shown they can't be trusted with this shit
You say that.. but I remember digg.
"some content" meaning it greatly effects marginalized groups more then not like the LGBTQ+ community. and you KNOW that is part of the reason why they are pushing this kinda shit
No
And for what its worth, it was a 3rd party that leaked the DIscord ID's (who didn't delete the info as per their contract).. which doesn't change the fact that theres always a risk, and you can't trust any company to do as they say, but also that it wasn't Discord itself that had the leak..
To provide more info it was 5CA working through zendesk age ban related appeals, not the K-ID based system being announced here or actively used in the uk/ aus.
this isn't about "protecting children" or "making spaces safer" or "catching pedos" its about erasing groups of people because we don't like because they don't live, love and exist the same way as they do. and thats not right
I could understand this complaint if it was targeted at more than just access to self flagged nsfw channels/servers/commands
Its not
Well also access to talking in stages but that’s not targeting any specific group
🙄
What’s the eye roll for
don't think they won't push this more and more and more
cause clearly you have no idea
Give how its not live, and we have no idea whats gonna be flagged our how, people saying absolutes about what its going to do on any side are just guessing..
We do know, it’s channels/servers/commands people indicate as being nsfw, anything that currently gets blocked by the content filter will continue to be, and its anyone trying to talk in stages
It also is live currently in the uk/aus
ah so what makes someone deemed as "nsfw"??
And a random group of people outside of that
People can not be flagged as nsfw
Only channels/servers/commands
Ans its things the owners of those choose to indicate
whats to stop them from just targeting people this why tho
just because i have and am in a few nsfw servers
I don’t know what you mean by targeting people
Its all nsfw channels/servers/commands
sure bud
Its not only select ones
I still have no idea what you are implying here
It effects every single flagged nsfw channel/server/command you attempt to access
#the-wan-show message read this again and try to understand it more
i can explain things to you... i can't understand them for you
I don’t understand how that applies. Discord is not targeting specific groups with this
ok bud
It doesn’t matter who you are, if you try to access an nsfw resource you will get age verification
and nothing bad ever happens ever
??
gods your thick
Says the one who cant seem to understand something pretty basic and straightforward
Do you want to actually explain what you mean
So i can attempt to understand you better
its not my fucking job to hand hold you on this kinda shit. you really care do some research try and understand why this WILL effect LGBTQ+ communitis more. get informed on other events around the world
not more i can do other then that
Im literally open to trying to understand how something that applies to everyone will specifically target one group of people, but you havent explained that clearly.
Whatever, im off to bed.
Thanks! This sucks for people who want these features
I agree with the first half but I don't think this is about erasing groups of people. I think they just want to legitimize the platform as a step to go public or sell to investors and some nations possibly in the EU have strict requirements about user verification
Probably not the EU, as I earlier mentioned, there's a big fight for online anonymity in the EU. The only verification you need here is for services you would already have provided your personal details when established, such as utilities, educational platforms, work-related stuff, government stuff or banking. Where they knew your personal information before you created an online account. But anything that works with just an email has all personal information as optional (even e-shops technically only need an email or in some cases a phone number). And online stores almost always require to have the guest user option, or need to remove personal information after a short time as per GDPR. So I doubt they would push for age verification using IDs on a platform that is not 100% European and therefore could end up storing personal data.
A friend of mine has actually gone into details on a verification process that would use government ID online verification platforms that would communicate with any app service and would just send a "YES/NO" response without revealing any information, but that would require the app to cooperate with the specific government on the verification method. Not impossible, but also not likely to happen.
What if it was a verification system only through a government website but that information isn't stored anywhere in discord? This is similar to authentication with a Microsoft account
Which is what I just wrote
It's not impossible IF the developers reached out to the separate governments (since probably each one uses a slightly different service)
It's just less likely given the work they'd have to put in (and probably compliance for the external systems)
But it's an entirely doable thing
I think it's likely if that's the path to legitimatize the platform
And coordinating with many different government is very tough and exhausting but the actual code to do this is not difficult. I have implemented it in my career
You basically call the government's auth API and that API is a black box. It will return true or false whether the user successfully verified or not
Oh, I mean Hungarian government programming is famously simple. It's really just that all govt.s will have their own system integration/layout. Mostly that's the annoying bit.
But it's not so different from how 2FA bank authorisation has been integrated into international online shops. It can be done 100%, but it will always be a question for the platform whether they want to get into the legal part early on. If yes, then as you said, it shouldn't be a huge developer work. It's mostly just politics/legal cooperation
I just often see how private companies rather do their own things instead of trying to do the best thing.
Of course! Why wouldn't they? Their own things are always the best thing ||/s||
i've used whatsapp since i was like 12 lol
parents don't understand exactly what their kids are doing, don't know what's out there and quite frankly most don't have the time to deal with that shit
i went to a mall once
as someone who is an adult lgbtq+ furry i don't use any nsfw channels/ servers on discord (most are age gated with id verification anyway) and don't intend to
also the venn diagram is a circle
sure, i'm not particularly fond of the direction, but right now it has zero effect on me, and as soon as it does have any effect on me then i'll pack up and leave immediately
but that time may never come, and in that case i might as well enjoy my stay
if you use the platform differently you'll have a different line, but my line has not yet been crossed, and when it is that will be clear and i will be vocal
Did you ever return or just got lost and have been wondering there since turning feral when the ||discount|| hunt is on?
||(reading your other comments, I've missed out on asking whether you turn furral instead of feral...sadge)||
it could be all of the above
if they don't have the time and resources to properly parent there children... maybe they shouldn't have had kids
yeah which there inlays the problem here... doing there own thing > the right thing even when its not that hard. but then claiming to "be doing the right thing to protect children" is just a load of bull shit and it makes me not trust there intentions are good at all.
disguising a political stance with a "were just trying to do the right thing here" is a very well played out tactic by hateful groups against others
I honestly don't know what Discord's real intentions are. It just seems weird that they're implementing this so loosely. I mean, they could have it where ONLY government IDs are valid, but the fact that they're using some AI software to scan faces of people WITHOUT any ID verification, and then approving them anyway when it passes, not only seems questionable on its effectiveness, but also just plain doesn't make sense.
Is it truly to target certain groups? I can't say for sure because I haven't verified it yet, but I will say this - not only are people upset over this, but it seems that not everyone is subject to the new system; i.e. if they know you're an adult, then no verification is required. (Link below explains this.)
So @spice cairn and @restive rain, you both have solid points. As for me, I'm not gonna lean either way until I can personally find out more on this topic.
This, too, is interesting. https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/discord-alternative-search-10000-percent-stoat
no way discord is finished imo
this does not effect nearly enough people for there to be a mass exodus
yeah but it shows that if they do something shitty that people are willing to look elsewhere
it sends a message
I like to think they're using the ai facial rec. Because they don't want to drive away everyone by requiring photo ID, but they didn't realize that we wouldn't like that either.
Pessimistic take is that they know people will be livid and leave if they require government id, but they want to make it look like they're doing something to protect the kids, so they put in place shitty easily bypassed ai age checks.
You're probably not wrong; that does sound like what's going on IMHO.
2nd take, or first take?
Um... both?
I mean, they sound pretty similar TBH.
it's funny hearing Linus go "I don't know that much about lip-bu tan's leadership of Intel" as a guy that was immediately shitcanned when he became CEO
and also bringing light to Intel's current failure to adapt to demand for Data Center products
pretty obvious what kind of leader he is
did LBT think I was working in the Digital Camera/ Audio Player division or something? XD
Do you happen to have a source for this?
yes, the discord press release, the faq, and the support articles, and all users in the uk/aus who currently have the age assurance
Get legitimized and recongized by public entities and investors
I guess investors were scared Discord was being used by people who engaged in less than ideal activities
it also helps them collect more data on their users
I don't like the government angle a lot of mainstream conversation settles on because the government could pretty easily make the link between you and your discord account if it wanted to, without an age verification system
Good news for the dozens of people still using their Apple Vision Pro https://www.theverge.com/tech/878097/youtube-apple-vision-pro-visionos-app
"Discord is apparently switching age verification providers to Persona due to the bypasses...
which means everything they said about it being client-side and face images not being uploaded is now false"
again and loudly so those in the back can hear it... IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN
That's a stretch
it wasn't already???
fucking useless pos
It’s been web-only for eighty-four two years
insane
Netflix is still a hold-out, doesn’t even allow its iPad app to launch on Vision Pro
and how they thought this was going to "replace the smart phone" was such a pipe dream
nothing to say they are for sure switching, its only a VERY limited experiment in the UK right now
🙄
🙄
not only was it not already, they took down an app someone made for the avp that allowed you to watch youtube. even though it followed all terms
_(\
WAN show was better when it was early
I prefer it late.. early wans often start while I'm still at work, and I feel like they are generally shorter too as they are early cause they have to leave at a set time..
Completely forgot WAN's today
I might miss it, I wanna move my sleep time earlier to catch next week testing in its entirety
i agree (i live in the uk lmao)
Discord Threw It All Away - WAN Show February 13, 2026
interested to see what they say about this topic
Same as most people I'd assume.. Rabble Rabble.. "So you're gonna stop using it?" "Okay lets not talk crazy now.."
Agree with the outrage or not, I've seen this story play out before :p
everyone says they are going to switch but none of the other platforms have the engagement or the pull to get people to actually switch, so shitter is still the most used
I've seen maybe 3 people say they are gonna switch lol.. most are just "I cancelled nitro".. "I sent a STRONGLY worded email.."
thell come crawlling back when none of their communties switch
unless they like talking to a wall
or they are in a small group and can keep the whole group switched
Ya I don't actually expect anyone to leave.. I saw people say that when they first did this for the UK, one or two were gone for like a week.. but that coulda been just a long biobreak :p
i also think that this is partly just internet loud minority voice type situation too, I haven't heard a single IRL friend who I know uses discord talk about it at all lol
To be fair, ""normal"" people won't notice till the popup happens asking them to do it
and like especially if they are correct that most users wont have to do anything because of the age estimation model i really don't think anyone is going anywhere 
based off a data package I have from july and assuming they use the same/similar model to the ads predictions i should be fine 
no non no persona is just a limited experiment for the UK, there is nothing to say they are switching everywhere
Is that part of the "Request all of my data" package?
Yes, specifically the ads folder, in traits.json
K, thx
I've requested only the ads data, when it arrives I'll ask for the rest
you will have to wait for a month for the rest
you can only do it once a month
Eh, I can live with that
one issue i got with wan is the mics are always wayyy to sensitive, got to turn my volume down to reduce some of the mouth noise
I want Linus to call Wendell.. I wanna see him explaining how to do something in Linux to Linus, and Linus getting more confused :p
Creator Warehouse 1, Linus 0
"I'm not gonna confirm.." "The name is the third word in the description.."
I think Tatiana loved the photoshoot..
I remember Linus doing a video at his house where he even showed off some Anker stuff, saying along the lines of "Dropped them as a sponsor, still love some of their stuff.."
Nobody here was arguing that it was about protecting children....
You're yelling at nobody here
What JSON file did you find this in? Out of curiosity, I'm combing through my Discord data takeout.
Oh Nevermind, I do have that file, and can confirm it's correct... ish. Nice, nice.Traits.json - I won't have that file because I have all the Privacy settings turned off. 🤣
im not... i was just being passionate
"I didn't beat her, I was just being passionate!" 
FU. I was about to send that
As someone coming from a family with a history of parental violence based on a parent "just being passionate" I'm not a fan of the "being passionate" defence in any way, so....
(I don't oppose the meme, it applies)
FWIW, iirc in that movie he genuinely did not hit her (he did naaawwtt)
I do not understand how I managed to make it through that movie...
fuck off
thats not funny
first off theres a difference between text on a screen while making a general statement and like actually beating people
like the actual fuck is wrong with you
I rewatched the Room recently and had forgotten that the first like 30 minutes of the movie is just nonstop awkward lovemaking scenes
It was incredibly painful 
all the important people and all of the important communities are on discord. unless there's a mass exodus switching just dooms you to sit in an echo chamber with privacy fundies. even worse is if half of them switch and now everyone needs to keep track of two different accounts
not to say that everyone that uses matrix or stoat is annoying about privacy, most people just don't care enough about this issue to make such a drastic change
making light of the fact that you need to be ai face scanned and have your ID be stolen in another data leak isn't the best look
like more people need to care about this
if your still using Twitter and not Bluski then your a shit person simple as
also the Twitter to Bluski was an easier switch because Bluski came up pretty fast. staot and the other alternatives are either not built out and or cost money to run your own server like TS
well, no
im not on twitter nor bluesky
but many places still only post to twitter for updates
ok and?
so if they can only get updates for lets say a school activity or club on twitter
and they use it
theyre a shit person
why would you need school updates through twitter??
ive had friends in the past that could only get updates for their sport via twitter
skill issue
idk im too fucking tired for this
stop being shit... stop supporting pedos and terrible people
why are you being so rude about it?
i need to go to bed
am tired and irritable right now
I hate this change but I'm not sure what I can personally do to change it
Stop using discord in protest?
Perhaps if an alternative gets popular enough, I'll switch to that
that's a mad take
i will 100% agree if you have the blue checkmark i have no interest in hearing anything you say, but basically everyone is on twitter whether you like it or not
i used to use matrix but it did seem to have a lot of the other extreme of nutters, and discord had the supreme voice calls
i have also heard complaints within the open source community about it becoming increasingly centralised but i can't be fucked looking into it, for now i'm going to keep using discord because that's where the people i care to talk to are
How long before the Bluesky owners get bored and sell their platform to another fascist?
I’m just not interested in another corpo monolith
I've never watched it, but I heard about the fact that it's so iconicly bad that it has its own fan base. I think I also watched an EWW video on it. That was about all I need to know about the movie itself 
though I gotta say 'how did that weirdo in the 90s /in the US/ get those millions of dollars for the move?' got a lot less cute over the last couple years 💀
Did linus call Halo CE Hallo CUSTOM EDITION????
Those aren't real audiophiles. They don't have my expert ears
Yeah that's the original PC port of Halo 1 before MCC
Oooooooooooh, didnt know that
makes sense
bluesky's decentralisation is the big selling feature, the whole point is that that can't happen
or at least in theory, but basically everybody uses bsky.app for their accounts and stuff
can I operate a Bluesky server? is there a package I can install or a Docker container I can deploy?
FFS man, can I even view the Bluesky source code to audit it for security vulnerabilities?
I think this is it
https://github.com/bluesky-social/pds
yooooo, I know there was gome grumbling at launch, totes gonna set this up
Yikes https://www.theverge.com/tech/879088/dji-romo-hack-vulnerability-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt (archived at https://archive.vn/2zVG0)
Time to run claude on this repository
"Show me all the backdoor vulnerabilities"
Do not try "show me the backdoor" on grok
I'm not going to make that mistake a 4th time
currious to see who complies, them leaking it to the press does not insipre confidence that they will
i think the solution seems clear as day to me
lots and lots and lots of bot accounts posting about ice to make the database as annoying and painful to use for any purpose as possible
Better yet make sure the bots all use information from their supporters..
So are you going to move to a different platform?
Probably but with AI now, it's not too hard to filter those out
just ai the ai back but with better ai
Ask AI to create spam bot accounts that can't be detected by the FBI's AI
ofc google reddit and meta complied
are you genuinely asking or holding out hope? i can't tell
because if its serious then my answer is complicated
i would like to... but I've got a bunch of friends who aren't/ on the fence about it. plus stoat isn't ready yet... its pretty half baked and there isn't much free alternatives
source ?
nvm
i jumped the gun and didn’t see the second image
still would like a link tho
its a new York Times article which is paywalled
but im sure you can find it elsewhere
did i see correctly that stoat is just a direct discord competitor with central login or do they have a model with selfhosting a server like teamspeak?
its open source thats about as much as i know
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/02/apple-introduces-a-new-video-podcast-experience-on-apple-podcasts/
Curious to reactions to this ^ + Spotify updates. How / does this seem applicable for LMG?
Oh neat, they're finally adding what Spotify has had for years. I personally prefer keeping my music / podcast listening and video watching separate, but this is nice for people who don't mind mixing them.
uh if anything at all wan will just be broadcast to yet another platform, i doubt it will change much to speak of
These people want to be treated like real artists?
RE: The LTT/WAN PHub channel, I'll support it 😉
If the add revenue on PH is better, are the earnings from PH premium also better? Floatplane exclusives on PH as well?
“Locked down” means an end to side loading apps https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086115016017602
The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.
If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.
keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.
We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.
Thank you for your support!
1481
799
ffs
Can only side load apps that do not get popular.
at this point i would just not use my phone as anything other than a device to call people
no apps no games no socmed nothing just bring a small form factor laptop for that
especially no socmed that shit is unhealthy as is
android is dead ig
Pretty sure 99% of people never thought about side loading apps. Sad that it'll affect some people heavily but understand that the vast vast majority of people won't be affected nor do they care
youtube algo is down
kinda a w ngl
I have at least five different browser plugins to get rid of the YouTube algorithm so now the only place it shows up is when I use the search bar and it still manages to piss me off
especially when I’m looking for the answer to which is the best of a kind of product typically made by gibberish dropshipper brand names on amazon
nah floatplane exclusives on a certain solo ventilation related platform
you say, on a social media platform
until apple can properly pull off £250 phones i don't see android budging, and quite frankly apple couldn't care less about the low end market
true
google's insane market domination has damn near nothing to do with their software actually being good, it's just by far the cheaper option and works well enough most people will pick it over the alternatives
i only use it for like one server where i play games with friends and this server for tech support purposes
fair
i have facebook but only for local community stuff, and also instagram but i haven't used that in years
Have you considered FreeTube? #NotSponsored
Tbf, discord is more of a messaging platform. If it ain't algo-based it's nowhere near as bad
yeah i put it in the same category with line and whatsapp
I have important programs that depend on me using the YouTube website. going on a private client likely doesn’t fix the problem of AI vids scumming up their SEO, either
yaaaaay everything is fucked
pcgamer.com/hardware/memory/ma…
"Consumer electronics will see a large number of failures. From the end of this year to 2026, many system vendors will go bankrupt or exit product lines due to a lack of memory. Mobile phone production will be reduced by 200-250 million units, and PC and TV production will be significantly reduced."
I did tell you in December to get upgrading/replacing absolutely as soon as possible: pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/04/ai-…
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I guess I wont wait much longer to replace my phone then
yeah good call, better grab something while you can still actually own the software
all because some stupid nepo baby CEO somewhere wanted a slot machine to talk to them like there fucking yes men
sideloading was like the one big reason to stay on android honestly
I've never sideloaded that's not why im on Android. however i recognize how important it is while also having an open to have systems that are open source
even if you never intend to sideload this will effect everyone which is the most fucked up thing here
They've already confirmed that there will at least be a bypass that is essentially identical to iOS sideloading:
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/09/lets-talk-security-answering-your-top.html
we are also introducing a free developer account type that will allow teachers, students, and hobbyists to distribute apps to a limited number of devices without needing to provide a government ID.
I remember predicting they'd do exactly this back when the news first came out. Just seemed like the obvious path to ensure the EU would be okay with it, since they've had no objections to the way it's done on iOS.
Gotta give Anker respect, every product of theirs I bought (before the Eufy thing came to light) is still running like a champ
Ya Ankers issue was generally how they responded than the products themselves.. even without Eufy, it was bad, but a meaculpa at the start and working to fix it would have left a totally different taste in people’s mouths..
You'd sure hope so for how simple they are and the price they charge
It's the management that's the issue
ayuup, def not defending management (think LTT covered that pretty well with their plan)
it's just funny that Anker and Nvidia are in that catagory of "hate what the management are doing, but can't really argue with the product"
I value product quality the most
alienware for sure, the tuf stuff always feels a bit plasticky
It’s also funny that I’ve never been able to successfully boycott one of these charger companies, I have one Anker unit and one Ravpower (remember them? Lmao) and they’re just chugging along, I guess i probably would have been suckered into one of those units with the robot face
lol ravpower is a throwback but yeah their stuff was actually solid
I'll do my boycotting when my mortgage is fully paid off
article it cites is from dec 4 2025
> be nerds
> look into persona (used by discord)
> kyc (know your customer) service
> used for age verification
> search on internet (shodan)
> find weird server
> image 1
> openai-watchlistdb.withpersona
> openai-watchlistdb-testing.withpersona
> lolwtf
> look inside
> supposed to be behind cloudflare to hide ip
> openai messed up
> not behind cloudflare
> real ip shown
> using google cloud
> lookup cert history
> 2023-11-16 created
> 2024-02-28 gets cert
> 2024-03-04 prod goes live…
more updates on last weeks topic
If you replace x.com with fixvx.com or fxtwitter.com we can see the rest of the images in the tweet
in case anyone is confused this is between openai and persona, discord dropped the persona experiment ~4 days ago
53MB of source code leaked from a government endpoint. 269 verification checks. biometric face databases. SAR filings to FinCEN. and the same company that verifies your ChatGPT account.
At that point isn't that mancotting? 
Did any of you get this discord age verification thing yet? It has not prompted me so far
Nope. It's not early March yet.
Beginning with a phased global rollout to new and existing users in early March, users may be required to engage in an age assurance process to change certain settings or access sensitive content. This includes age-restricted channels, servers, or commands and select message requests.
https://discord.com/press-releases/discord-launches-teen-by-default-settings-globally
I just randomly came across this
https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1r8bv8u/realistic_silicone_mask/
Problem solved
I wish the WAN show had a (way better?) mouth click filter 🥀 I seriously cannot listen to it at times
Either my earphones are too bad to reproduce it, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
same
the gain or something on the mics are always way to high
they need to turn it down
the article
53MB of source code leaked from a government endpoint. 269 verification checks. biometric face databases. SAR filings to FinCEN. and the same company that verifies your ChatGPT account.
just mouth clicks
mouth noises to do with saliva
A topic for Wan, LTT should look about what's going on in Spain with soccer. La Liga have the power, by court decree, to force the ISPs to block the IPs of services that use cloudflare and now they won a case to block VPNs like Nord and Proton, all in an effort to stop pirate streaming of games. The problem is that isn't just blocking pages that stream soccer matches, but everything that use cloudflare, people playing online been disconnected at the same time of matches been played, or using any other service unrelated to soccer
alright, maybe I can see where Canadians are coming from
Security researchers claim Persona, the provider behind Discord's UK age verification 'experiment', performs '269 individual verification checks' on user data, including those for terrorism and espionage
and of course behind it all is peter thiel
that experiemnt has been over for 6 days
crazy how they couldn't have just used one of the like 20 other companies ACTUALLY ACTIVLY using persona
like idk Roblox, who is definitely verifying mostly children??
Gamers Overwhelmingly Prefer Fake Resolution - WAN Show February 20, 2026
Pre-show best-show
I'm sorry what
absolute cinema
most scuffed wedding in the world
No, there is probbaly more scuffed
The wife must be getting a hell of a honeymoon or second ceremony for this :p
This is an example of Linus's most commited relationship: To the bit.
TRADE OFFER-- You receive: 1 bride. I receive: Fucking with Linus live on WAN
that was crazy
Certainly up there for one of the wildest things to happen on WAN
dan rocking that john wick getup
But yeah I thought the background was Chinese New Year stuff too
The paper lantern ball things
not everyone can say they can link their wedding to their family and friends on youtube
I love that it took linus like 5 minutes to remove his headphones. I love this weird energy 🥰 it’s something I’d definitely do too
Add in vr hes describing Vrmmos from the korean/jp novels lol
The thing is regarding the iGPU talk
The performance gap between iGPUs and dGPUs is still the same
It's just that graphical demands have been platauing
And now iGPUs are catching up
This is why GPUs have been aging so well
It used to be that you needed to get a new GPU every year. Then eveyr two years. Then you could skip a generation
There have been fewer and fewer major technology releasing in graphics.
The last major tech to release was Raytracing. 8 Years ago.
The RTX 2000s were 2018
LPCAMM2 should've been a viable option, but I haven't seen it anywhere really. It's specced for 8533 MT/s, even higher than the 8000 MT/s in strix halo systems like the framework desktop
Strix Halo is like, an RTX 3060 in GPU performance?
Well the 3060 can play all games perfecty fine despite being 6 years old
But that is still the same 6 year gap that iGPUs have had behind dGPUs for like 20 years
So no, it's not iGPUs catching up to dGPUs, it's graphical demands platauing and now the iGPUs have reached that.
Brother: is there a wedding on WAN today?
Me: Wait what, the background is for the year of the horse
Brother: Noooo a wedding is happening right now
thats what i get for background noise
I think Nvidia is keeping Geforce as an emergency back up
Because AI is gonna crash eventually
ANd it would be legendarily stupid to put all their eggs into that
Pokemon FIreRed is probably the most emulated GBA game
And is also probably the single most rommodded game in all of emulation
For me, there is no replacement. Crystal or bust. ❤️
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-crystal-suicune-gif-9601621893106148658
The Gen 2 games were the GOAT
My first game was Pokemon Red on a Gameboy Pocket
And I liked it. Played it a lot
But Pokemon GOld with my Gameboy Colour is what made me fall in love with Pokemon
And I played a lot of Gen 3 too, but I went back to my copies of Gold and Crystal more often than with Sapphirewhen I had a GBA
My first pokemon game was violet (got into Pokémon when I was like 14, am 18 now) and tbh I think like gen 7 was my favorite playing through the older ones
ok catching up... did I just witness a wedding?
Vulpix and Growlithe were different versions
Luke talking shit on my Porygon pick immediately after I said I loveit
Voltorb is B A L L
😂
Are you adding "live wedding" on the events list?
Also, Dennis is gone ||😢||, it should be Riley now
I can’t believe gamefreak hasn’t released the older games pokemon on a switch cart, i so would.
Yes I was dressed horribly!
Oh she was on board from the start
She’s a bigger nerd than I am and it’s amazing
Have you ever played Uranium tho? 
at least they correctly claim discord is no longer using persona
Was deleted (after we sent all your data to government)
I have not.
It's an unofficial fan version, that was taken down by Nintendo, but it's still a good one. Classic style, really hard without careful team planning and it's still maintained by the devs (as long as you have the original game files). They have an extra type (nuclear), the whole storyline includes a lot of references to this typing. It's fun.
So over the top... I love it
so i was listening to the wan show while driving to work
and suddenly theres a wedding
what
Lmao the intro of this week's wan is so much funnier with the context that Linus didn't know the decorations were for a wedding and not the Chinese new year
wedding onw an is craaaazy work 
i can't believe we got a wedding on wan and it wasn't luke and emma
it is the perfect way to advertise wedding rings though lol
Hope Thorum’s covering the honeymoon too, W business team regardless
Digimon is better than Pokemon
Dell and their history of over engineering solutions to real problems
The connector has a potential problem if not used properly? Let's get Amphenol to fix the issue 
well good thing discord aint using persona then
and also good thing that its not required to have an account
its just so impossible for anyone to use facts
they are tho
They are not any more, the limited uk persona experiment was dropped 7 days ago.
i wasn't aware
Thats the problem with these types of posts
facts dont matter when we got outrage babbyyyy
and even if they did keep the whole persona thing as is it's still uk only
here we go again
idk about you but i rather not let my rights be taken away
and just because they seem quiet about it... and because they "say" we'll look into different options doesn't mean its over
why trust those who have shown us that they are not to be trusted
you all are the types of people who are the real problem here. your the reason why this shit just happens, why they think they can walk all over the rest of us.
stay mad
hop of discord and get on a different platform then, and make sure you cancel that nitro ¯_(ツ)_/¯
even when they back off, be pissed that they even thought about trying to fuck everyone over
believe me im trying
wont be very easy
its not as simple and id much rather Discord go back and fix the good will they've destroyed
but that keeps loud and constant pressure from EVERYONE
laying down and just accepting this isn't the right move
Man, I can't put into words how much I'd love it if discord made it so blocked messages didn't show up at all...
Might be nice if it was a toggle, but in a real time chat app it could lead to a bit of confusion 
maybe a 3 tiered system, blocked & can expand, block & can't expand, and none at all
H*ck I'd give them a selfie with my gov ID for it

I'm perfectly willing to go through the confusion
Fair, discord might not like that for the product though lol, maybe some day
I'm almost hoping they make ID mandatory, just so some people decide to hop off for good
Almost
I don't want that
But I'm almost hoping
nahh i would def have an issue if it went mandatory, and would def kill the app lol
Cuz fuck me sharks constant ranting is fucking annoying and it's seemingly unstoppable
At least the topic of ranting has changed recently
there are ways, but i cant talk about them here and they dont work on mobile
I pretty much only use it on mobile 😔
a bit like someone i could name
piss off
I mean, most channels have community rules for behaviour and unnecessary swearing and such, where rudeness and obnoxiousness earns you timeouts or bans. You shouldn't need government ID for moderation, it's just that this server has very minimal moderation that's not related to scammers or bots. So I completely feel you, although I honestly don't mind seeing the blocked messages all over chat. On occasion I unblock something when there's a conversation and the blocked messages seem to be appropriate (I have multiple users blocked for just general tediousness), so knowing there's a blocked message is actually useful. I do appreciate that blocked users can't ping me tho.
What what are you gonna do to make it stop other than ranting here
Being loud is easy and changes nothing
potential wan topic? https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed discord dropping persona as age verification provider and also persona leak?
in todays episode of america misuses all that money they don't have, ...
You're right but its the convenient move that requires the least amount of energy from the masses
<@&750150305383186585> Please take a look at @spice cairn messages.
Super toxic in violation of Rule 2
And this a repeated thing, just look at the previous messages in the WAN channel.
^
https://fortune.com/2026/02/24/discord-peter-thiel-backed-persona-identity-verification-breach/
🎉 (I think?)
yea this has been posted about already, its like 10 day old news atp, fortune is slow on the pickup 
I only heard that Discord was going to partner with Persona, this is the first I'm hearing of that partnership actually being cancelled.
Yea news be that way
it was first reported on the 14th by Kotaku that it was dropped
https://old.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1rdlx68/getting_global_age_assurance_right_what_we_got/ new news just dropped
Given the global climate, I suppose this is as good an outcome as we could hope for.
A new spoiler channel option. We know many communities use age-restricted channels not for adult content, but for topics people prefer to engage with on their own terms: spoilers, politics, and heavier conversations. We’re building a dedicated spoiler channel option so communities don’t have to age-gate their server just to give members that choice.
i think this addresses one of your concerns if im not mistaken @spice cairn
isn't that the sort of thing the channels and roles menu is meant to do ?
Currently, from what I've seen in the servers I'm in, most of them have a bot handling those, I think in this way it can be a feature within Discord itself
Just so y'all know: they've uploaded a BTS of DMS' wedding as a FP exclusive.
not the honeymoon ?
<@&750150305383186585>
sorry if you already saw this 🙂
huh ok... we'll see how this goes i guess
Hope you're doing well. The world definitely sucks in more ways than one. We got bills and mortgages to pay so we don't want to rock the boat too much.
yeah thats kinda the problem isn't it
you all are too comfortable to really "rock the boat" while there are those really suffering from the shit thats taking place
and until people do start to really rock the boat even tip it over... there wont be much in the way of change
at the end of the day living in a fascist hell scape isn't living... and its not a world i ever want to be apart of. i say burn it down, fuck your bills and mortgages for those are chains to hold you down from a better world
Oh trust me I'd like to "fuck" my bills and mortgages but I need food, shelter, other basic necessities and many of the amenities that I've been used to
Speaking of fascism https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/24/apple-rolls-out-age-verification-tools-worldwide-to-comply-with-growing-web-of-child-safety-laws/
thanks for giving me a reason to NEVER buy an Apple product as long as i live
Woww, what a twist, so you are trying to be a constructive member of society instead of being an angry anarchist? How dare you 
i mean you can genuinely be both, it's just really difficult
it takes a lot of patience and effort
being a "constructive" member of a fascist society isn't being constructive at all
more or less skill issue
Oh you’re praying for an early WAN, not thankful for an early WAN. Was confused thinking they’d announced something
Tbf I think the declared age range api is good, now you are only giving your deets to one company at one point in time and all other companies needing age verif only get your verified age range instead of all your deets again
Ya I like Apples system best rather than having to hand over my id to every company that requires an age check.. same was as I do for CC’s using ApplePay..
Yep
And for all of Apples flaws, and there are many, once they have your data they don’t seem to sell or share it outside of court orders..
Idk. I haven't seen Apple's source code so I trust them about the same as anyone else. 🤷
I trust them more due to how little security issues they have had, combined with how big of a target they are.. but end of the day nothing is 100%, it all has risks..
But if I’m gonna take risks, I’d go with the one that’s willing to act as the single point, while at the same time having earned the most trust from me.. vs a dozen companies and a dozen middlemen each wanting to see my data and for SURE not storing it or selling it or using it for any shady stuff … right? Right?
Yeah praying 🤣
So what I'm reading is bring your own AP - all you need is an ethernet port.
I just assume that any information that leaves my direct control is compromised until proven otherwise. And by this I mean I avoid sharing more than necessary and only on a need to know basis.
I still remember the one time I paid with credit card at a restaurant in the USA about 10 years ago. The wait staff couldn't understand why I needed to come to the counter with my credit card to pay instead of just letting them run my card out of my sight. 😁
Like, 1) no absolutely not - I can't trust that you're not skimming my card and 2) it's against the cardholder agreement...
I mean if I'm being real I assume my data was already leaked at the source, be it gov't or whatever :p But ya shaving as little and possible as much as possible is ideal, again going back to why I like the Apple plan, sure it involves sharing with them, but after that its minimal shared between other parties..
That'll come back to bite us if Apple gets hacked, or goes full Evil.. but still I'd rather roll my dice on that than giving dozens of places my data and hoping they ALL don't sell out or get hacked :p
Thread 'iPhone and iPad Are First Consumer Devices Cleared for NATO Classified Data' https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-and-ipad-are-first-consumer-devices-cleared-for-nato-classified-data.2478264/
The iPhone and iPad can be used with NATO restricted level classified information after meeting NATO's information assurance requirements, Apple said today. No special software or settings are required.
Apple's devices are the first and only consumer mobile products that have reached this...
Ya Apple seems to really take it seriously.. beyond just parroting words about how much they care..
They offed the canary https://infosec.exchange/@dazo/116133378756919378
It’s an old story but it still makes me sad https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/firefox-deletes-promise-to-never-sell-personal-data-asks-users-not-to-panic/
Do No Evil
Hm...
-# LibreWolf is always an option...
That story turned out to be a nothing burger
lots of legal speak and a bad response from someone from mozilla that caused an uproar
Welp is that back to windows?
this is all OSs, not just linux. So windows would need it too
also unless im misunderstanding, sounds like they just need to ask the user for their birthday. No face/id scans
Oh that's not too bad
and that is just 1 out of 50 states and not the whole USA!
Ya but then it'll become time to one up/down eachother.. one will demand photo id, the other will ban the OS from even asking your name :p
I thought Linus said they were stopping member only videos on youtube? They posted 3 within the past hour. (The next oldest members only video was posted 7 months ago.)
which Youtube channel is going to be carrying WAN going forward?
Is The WAN Show late? Yes. How late is The WAN Show? Probably very! See a countdown to when WAN is supposed to start, as well as how late it's been before.
To be fair, the reason was because how YT was pushing them.. and if memory serves, YT has stopped being so aggressive with it, and/or allows creators to opt out of it being shown..
Or maybe someone messed up..
Both, for at least for a while
im asking which channel is the 2nd one.
yea, the single most important state in the union and the site where all of these companies are headquartered
wouldn't say most important state...... the most blowharted state for sure! and not where they are all hq. ms is up in washington. And think of the kids argument is just the angle they are using to take control away from you and control freedom to information!
Savage Luke
What is Linus Eating ?
But Linux is easy. I've had no issues with Fedora.
But my biggest recommendation to make Linux as painless as possible
Have an AMD gpu if possible
I had a 3070 up until like 4 months ago. I had so many little bugs and glitches
And sleep mode didn't work right so like a third of the time the screen stayed black on wake
So I had to reboot to fix that.
Oh the game They Killed Your Cat is great to flow through while you listen to WAN show.
And several demanding games had awful frametimes and stutters regardless of quality settings. Marvel Rivals was the worst for this
Liuterally every problem has gone away now that I got a 6800XT
forgot to send this earlier
The Linux Challenge Is Going… - WAN Show February 27, 2026
Some years ago, when I was dual booting Win10/Ubuntu, I updated the NVIDIA drivers and was rewarded with a login loop. I tried a lot of stuff, but I could never fix it.
Yeah
It's still in my old SSD, but I've given up trying to fix it
Nvidia is still problematice, and I am willing to bet money on that being the reason SteamOS is not official yeat
I could still log via the terminal, but the DE was impossible to log in to
Cause most gamers have Nvidia GPUs, and Valve doesn't want to release th OS without it being guaranteedfine on Nvidia
They do not want to deal with the torrent of people messaging them about their problems on their OS because they have Nvidia cards
Linus needs to chill a bit..
Linus is really butthurt about this
Oh I have not been able to get the fingerprint reader on my Zephyrus G14 on Linux
why aren't they doing this on the show? lol
did he install steam as like, an app, or did he install the steamOS?
I forget, this was an OLD Linux challange..
PopOS, I thinj
They used a specific hardware vendor for the shape of the button and that vendor only has closed source drivers for it
ANd nobody have assed themselves to figure it out
he's got a point though, just about everything in linux puts out a big nasty warning
Not really. If you ust follow the GUI when setting up one of the more well known distros
Ya but THAT wearning is a big one.. sure you get asked stuff before, but being asked to confirm that way.. RED FLAG..
but i've installed steam into linux without a problem
You can't really argue it wasn't a RED FLAG.. you CAN argue that Linus is desensitized..
Distros like Fedora are getting pretty damn easy.
quick question (mainly for preshow watchers), what should i expect from preshows? i downloaded twitch just because i wanted to see the preshow, first time i see a preshow, first time i use twitch in general.
But I might be biased, I am an intermediate linux user by now
Bros chatting
all this Linux talk is a good reminder that I wanted to replace Debian on my surface laptop with Linux Mint
because I don't like GNOME it's poo poo
is the preshow on twitch?
hence why everyone agrees that what happened was a bug.. it was a bug at the start.. the issue is how deep Linus went down a hole to force it.
Yes
But mostly silence
Meme format
Like, I usually manually edit my fstab file upon fresh install to get my drives just right
And I know that could be a lot for some
Also, did linus wake up grumpy today? 
yes
And for what its worth, if its a New OS, and you don't know the "heirachary" or OS warnings, that when you stop on them, and find out.. not just keep on going..
I think its because he had problems again with the new Linux challenge
I didn't realize they restarted it
So the butthurtedness go back in anticipation of the Linux bros backlash
Luke has had enough.. Linus needs to drop it and move on.
Also this is why I'm sticking with windows with debloating tools installed
we need to go further
anyone on pre show right now?
yes I'm loving it
I am
its great
yeah they havent run the credits yet
the way luke reacted to him talking over him was funny haha
XDDDDDDDD
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Holy shit
I need popcorn...
I havent seen them argue like this in a while
Yep.. Luke has had enough.. co-owner flex
When's the last time you had a windows update? My last one was around 2023-10, I believe
i think linus is in the wrong here
Early this month. I've disabled auto updats tho
100%... him getting annoyed at the start, ya, fine, fair.. but that ended 20min ago :p
Linus's issue is often that he doesn't know how to move on..
True friendship arguement lol
And this is just one of the rare times the other party is in the room with him
And thats why I Turbo.. that and I watch a dozen or so streamers..
The horror
dont you have a floatplane tag?
My sub ended today, idk why I'm still as a floatie here
oof
This is deff going to be clipped and talked about for weeks
That apology, in my eyes seemed just for public view
Dan on the other side of the camera:
Probably, but then again with how well they know eachother, any apology might seem.. forced.. cause both of them would just move on.. rather than do anything formal, much less infront of a camera for an audience :p
Not live on LMG Clips?
what does resume the selected even mean?
Start the yt stream
There's a "resume the selected" button
ah
the challenge is just starting, so it will be several weeks
ah okay
Oh my god stop using pop
just use one of the mainstream distros
Like Fedora or Ubuntu
out of all emotes i got the one i least wanted
steamOS is based on arch, so if you want to best run steam it might be advisable to use something arch based
Linus' thirteen reasons why
One of them being this Linux curse with how it's eating him
I wish floatplane chat had more emotes
No. That's not this works
Cause Bazzite ie better than SteamOS for most machines, and that's fedora silverblue based
that is so f-d up
i wonder if it had to do with workspaces
if he had steam on three work spaces
Hello
i have an older laptop from like 2013 and i have linux mint installed on it. unfortunately, because of its age, the laptop has like an 920m or something for the gpu, one of those super old ones that barely does anything. but i discovered if i install a kernel newer than something like 5, it completely kills the audio on the laptop because the kernel people randomly decided to remove support for older nvidia GPUs after a certain date. so I have to mod the updater to not update the kernel automatically.
they've spent like, over an hour talking about linux
its been the year of the linux desktop for like six years
does everyone here like the temps im geting i had to repaste my gpu
those are extremely low temperatures
ikr
Idk what is it under load
Also thats your igpu
Speaking of the indiana jones game, I never finished that because I came to game breaking bugs
I wonder if it finally got fixed.
My GPU right now
Well I'm just watching Floatplane so it's barely doing anything
Ah yeah that makes sense
It reaches like in the 70s on demanding games
Was playing HSR and GPU is in the 50s.
And also I screenshot the wrong gpu with the right temps ... whoops
THERES A 2 LEVEL GO KART PLACE HERE????????????????????
it really astounds me how many things LMG has been successful at
i dont think thats what vestigal means
he actually mean visceral. visceral is not vestigial
visceral means a gut, instinct feeling. vestigial means an evolutionary leftover like our tailbone
this is because streameers dont actually work with VPNs even though thats like the major marketing pitch for vpns
Is there a way to change your username color in floatplane?
Don't think so; I cannot find such a setting. Pretty sure it's randomly generated.
the color is done through some kind of algorithm based on your username. So "dave" will be a different color than "dav"
if you change your username you may have to reload the page
Only thing worse than being unable to change name colour its Twitch, where your name is a different random colour on every browser/device..
Oh and chat too, of course
its almost as bad on floatplane. users with white background may see different colors than people that force dark mode
More than once streamer ""called me out"" for "changing my username colour" just because I switched from desktop to laptop lol
oh that too. if i brought up floatplane in iOS on my ipad it might be different too
Or worse now, I have a MacMini next to my desktop and I often move twitch channels between them depending on my focus..
So I might not even move chairs and get different colours lol
Though on slow moving smaller channels I now make a conscious effort to manually set my colour..
YouTube suddenly hit with searches for “2 cigarettes 2 beers speed run”
So there we go, YT memberships are back.. cause of a change to settings by YT to filter member only videos
I used to have a college classmate who owned a security/bodyguard business, and told us he used to be an “enforcer” when he lived in NYC
I dream of the day Linus says "Dan, hit me" and Dan actually gets up and slaps him or something.
Like, I don't want it to hurt, but it would be too funny...
@latent lake @lusty nova i love tarkov
skill diff
where did he come from
wait this isn't tc2
Wait what country are you in
Guessing Israel, there's currently Iranian missiles incoming due to the war that broke out like an hour after Wan show ejded
I really had to word that to avoid commenting on the geopolitical situation in the middle east
And that's where you're wrong

Ope never fucking mind I just checked again
In my defense
This is very much still a developing situation
Don't respond to that clown. They know absolutely nothing
It's why they won't let you leave reactions in their messages. Fucking clown
Latest WAN show> "Solid Rabbit Hole"... Rabbit with Constipation?
and if a linux distro were to, say, just not ?
I sure they would get the STRONGEST worded email imaginable..
by the looks of it isn't just an input field for DOB enough?
Provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder to indicate the birth date, age, or both, of the user of that device for the purpose of providing a signal regarding the user’s age bracket to applications available in a covered application store.
generic enough that it does not seem to require verification of said age
Still would be better for it not to pass, otherwise they'll definitely try the next logical step
the land of reasonably priced firearms, and extortionately priced pc parts
"I have way too many of my passwords remembered by now" -Linus just Discovering using your brain to memorize your passwords.
(Context passwords managers is bad/worse)
I do wonder if some of his passwords are like 9wuLm12HnM
What would you recommend to save/ remember the 100 passwords many of which have different requirements
soo microslop gets tired of being called out... for slop... that it is
microslop

i use like 20 passwords with different ones for websites i care about a lot and then somewhat shared between accounts i don't care as much about security witb
like if someone had access to my bank account that would be bad but if they crack my jbhifi account then oh no they can reserve a set of speakers under my name, whatever will i do
password managers are bad?!
if you use them wrong sure i guess
but just make a 8 word master password and memorize that, ezpz
iirc the main reason some people are against them is because its a single point of failure and then someone will have access to literally all of your accounts
This ^^^
I just split passwords and 2FA between bitwarden (SH) & KeePass, respectively. Can be slightly annoying at times but I wouldn't remember more than a few PW anyway so I much rather do this. Plus, this way if I'm hacked they'd only have one of the 2 factors either way, so I'd probably have enough time to change PWs of everything I deem important enough to have 2FA for
This. It's why I keep all my passwords in my head. Can't extract passwords from a data bank you can't access. 
Oh. Wait. Shit. Uh. Let's talk this through...
https://xkcd.com/538/
BitWarden, 1Password, or if you are fine rolling your own self-hosted version, Vaultwarden. Never, ever LastPass. Former company LogMeIn lied about selling email addresses on multiple occasions. Earned LastPass and all associated products a permanent spot on my banned vendors list.
+1 vote for bitwarden
ive been pretty happy with apple passwords 
just the occasional issue with the windows extension & app
Rip Rtings
Today, we're launching an important update to our membership program, previously called Insider Access, now simply RTINGS.com Membership.
Facts homedawg, swapped from lastpass after that whole shitshow to 1pass.
To learn more about HONOR phones including the new Magic V6, go to https://honor.com. a big thank you to them for giving me this challenge and sponsoring this project!
Battery life is always a big limiting factor in phones - particularly folding phones that have huge, power hungry screens. And making them thin requires very slender batteries. ...
Microslop PedOS?
the creators of Entice Molest Dispose? never!
H*ck. Yeah.!
https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/32656-motorola-partnership-announcement
Turns out this ended up being ai slop 😭
