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@frozen agate first of all i don't care if it is "gender free" please don't call me it... cause its not. secondly im not an American citizen however hate has a tendency to spread if you allow things like this to go unchecked... which we are clearly seeing as there been an up tick in a lot of right wing politics all over the world. this shit doesn't just effect me or you... but it effects EVERYONE. 3rd giving money to a company THAT THE OWNER of said company is an issue IS STILL GIVING MONEY TO THEM. its there fucking paycheck, and i don't give a fuck if it all goes back into development... Framework should not be promoting and giving my money to a fucking fascist, racist person PERIOD. pick a different project and different developer i don't care... they just shouldn't have given attention to DHH and Hyperlan. lastly there so much as hasn't even been a fucking mention of it... as someone who's apart of one of the targeted marginalized groups it's VERY important for allies if they really are an ally to speak up... not just went its only convenient to them but all the time. LTT and Linus specifically invested in Framework... he SHOULD know about this and if he actually cared about human rights which he has shown in the past to be all well and good... then he should've at least brought it up on the WAN show. maybe contacted Framework and asked what was going on... encourage them to do better. you, me and EVERYONE has a responsibility here to make sure our own fucking human rights aren't stripped from us. because you know they will the second we allow any sort of tolerance for hate.
why's that so fucking hard for you people to understand
its a slippery slope
š„±
I'm gay, I know a slippery slope. Point still stands.
Please move on. Thanks.
Next reply will be a block.
In other news heyo NoKi how are you?
I see ya lurking
lmao i already blocked you
so block me if you want but not... your point does not still stand
the fucked up part is if this was about how women wanted to delete males from the human race because "oh we don't need them anymore we figured out how to repoduce with out them"... EVERYONE would be all up in arms about it.... but because its about fucking marginalized groups no one seems to fucking care
im not asking for Linus to publicly come out and disown Framework here or anything.... i just want there to be a fucking conversation thats it
i don't think thats unreasonable when he's LITERALLY invested in said company
Iām going to be honest, I donāt think this belongs in this channel. Iāve been avoiding this channel because of this and I donāt think that anything will be gained by continuing this discussion here
and it is something that they SHOULD talk about on the fucking WAN show because Linus talks about stuff having to do with Framework on the fucking WAN show
Sidenote: this breed is such a scam. I never heard or read anything about them actually doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Itās been what, 3 weeks now and this is still being discussed here? I think itās about time to move on for now at least
why?
has fascism been stopped? have my rights come back?
do people not hate others because of the color of there skin or because of who they are and who they love???
NO?
then no
its not time to move on
cause they haven't
Right, I've been reading through this and the forums post and it's getting beyond what it's supposed to be about.
why's that so fucking hard for you people to understand
To say this and debate with everyone who disagree with you, the same people who have NO direct interaction or connection to the company Framework is, for the lack of a better word, utterly dumb.
This is causing the opposite effect of what you are saying due to the language, and is actively driving people away from the channel due to your wording and what you're saying. It doesn't help that you're being aggressive towards others as well, which is making people listen to you even less.
Anyways, ignoring the colorful language and all the debates, more importantly;
Framework should not be promoting and giving my money to a fucking fascist, racist person PERIOD.
(...)
LTT and Linus specifically invested in Framework... he SHOULD know about this
In that case...bring it up on r/Framework or email Framework directly with your concerns? I still fail to see how this can become a WAN Show discussion point, let alone the fact that Linus is unable to do anything about this. He won't approach them and tell them to stop using a software they've invested hours of work to make work with their products. They've mentioned on the WAN Show they'd rather avoid drama or politics unless they are joking about it every now and then, and this doesn't fall into that.
Linus has made it a point that, on more than one occasion, all his involvement with the company is his one-time investment. I can post timestamps from more than one WAN Show where he stated specifically that he doesn't follow what they do (nor would he care if memory serves well) as he only paid them money and that's that.
This concern of yours will go unheard as you're not using the proper venue to voice them. You're attacking people instead of calming yourself and realizing that nobody here works for Framework or the other guy's company. People here lack the interest you do evidently, and you've continued despite everyone trying to move on from the topic. Your best option is to email Framework directly as this was already discussed on the LTT forums, or to bring it up on r/Framework or their Discord if they have one.
What had to be said was already said. Chasing this means you're only chasing drama instead of what you claim to be the betterment of others.
Use the proper channels and email Framework or talk to their community, not LTT's. Move on, thank you.
Anyways I was opening this channel to say that I forgot to do the chapters and it's already beyond midnight lol.
Welp, it's tomorrow me's problem. Gnite.
Gnight NoKi sleep well! And thanks for the stamps
i don't care? im not arguing for them... its not about them and its not about just me either... choosing to ignore this isn't someone just "disagreeing" its WRONG. plane and simple, and im getting fucking upset and pissed off with thee amount of push back here. im literally effected by these things directly... so therefore its something i feel strongly about
Affected*
Plain*
NoKi, go to bed, you can't argue with them, you'll end up getting nowhere and bashing your head into the wall. Trust me, I've tried
You've completely ignored the point and continue to self-insert your worries and correcting others instead. Please continue reading.
Your best option is to email Framework directly as this was already discussed on the LTT forums, or to bring it up on r/Framework or their Discord if they have one.
That's all that needs to be said. Nobody here is interesting in this topic anymore let alone NOBODY can do anything here about this. Move on and do what I've mentioned if you are upset and claim it has a huge impact, voice your concerns to Framework and its community. We are not Framework, we are humans like you and others (who are also in the same minority group as you) have voiced differing opinions.
Anything more than this is fishing drama.
Why canāt mods step in and do their job ?
^
Anywho, bed time. r/Framework is active, their email is easy to reach out to. You decide on your next step, Acute Shark.
Gnite y'all.
Gn Noki
gn noki
Gn NoKi
I'm annoyed at myself. I watched the VOD but forgot to trim my nails during it.
Rip
Guess I'll just have 2-weeks-long nails
Why not rewatch the vod and trim them?
i disagree here im not chasing anything... i just see this as a bigger deal then people seem to think it is. why's that such a bad fucking thing? i don't understand as well as Linus SHOULD know when the company he gave money to is now using said money to support shitty people. like its not that much to fucking ask
It's too fresh, it wouldn't be the same
<@&750150305383186585> I think someone needs to step in and do something about this before it escalates any further really, theyāre just here for the sake of arguing it seems
It certainly hasn't made you go away
no im fucking not
no one is understanding me
Will see if I have another video podcast on my playlist, otherwise I'll go back to old WANs
She says, arguing...
cause i still care and want to seem them do better
Framework already addressed the issue, that's what the forum post was.
github has a video podcast on the log4j/log4shell situation talking with a maintainer of log4j
seems kinda interesting
I've absolutely no idea what that is. It's a contender.
what log4j is?
OMFG you people aren't fucking getting it.... Linus should have addressed this as well because he has invested in Framework
Yep
get the fucking mods in here i don't care... im still going to be upset that no one wants to talk about this on the fucking WAN show
its a logging library for java, its used in minecraft and alot of other java programs, and it had a RCE vuln that could be triggered by something like a chat message being sent in minecraft iirc
Yep, was pretty big news
Interesting, it is pretty widely used yeah
Crazy vuln too
Damn
<@&750150305383186585> can this guy get a timeout or temp ban or something
Shark, I hope some day you learn that peace comes from within and not from bullying people into your viewpoint.
yeah <@&750150305383186585>
That is a crazy vulnerability wow
I've found a couple of Off Menu EPs on the backlog, but I'll add this log4j to the list
im not bullying people.... peace can't come from within when others are trying to hunt your kind down
THAT is bullying people
im trying to speck out about it
Shark, I understand this is something you feel strongly about. However, taking it out on the community is not going to effect the type of change you seek.
Youāre welcome to respectfully reach out via the proper channels, but continuing to push the topic in this channel after the community has repeatedly asked to move on is not the way.
Itās time to move on. If youāre intent on getting your message to LMG, you can do so here: https://linusmediagroup.com/contact
yeah its crazy, ${jndi:<lookup>} with lookup being replaced with a website hosting specific type of data would cause log4j to pull down data from that url and potentially execute code, and all it had to do was pass through log4j
Well itās good at least that it was identified, I guess before bad actors decided to exploit it too far cause I havenāt heard of it being actually used
Itās time to drop it, all of you
fine
This isnāt a āget the last word inā situation
yo fuck off with these reactions
thank you... looks like i can't relay on here to send the message so i'll do so there
yeah, crazy thing is according to what was said on the podcast 25% of log4j downloads are affected versions still
The log4j stuff is still ongoing? Yikes
Yeah thatās the thing, people donāt update their libraries that often. Even when there are severe vulnerabilities. Either because they donāt know about it or cause itās not up to them
yeah, github put out a podcast with one of the log4j maintainers 5 days ago, some crazy things were said there lol
Fun stuff
people donāt update their plugins that often
Can confirm. I update nothing unless it's not working or I want a new feature.
or it works and their scared updates will break it
Yeah pretty much for both
I think the affected versions will still be in use for a decently long time somewhere at least
im definitely like that when i run sudo pacman -Syu (i use arch btw) im just like "fuck, i hope this breaks nothing"
Updating libraries always feels like a coin flip, will it all still work or will something catastrophically fail
yep lol
Like maybe the newest version of one library relies on the previous version of another and not the newest and if you update both to newest it all goes horribly wrong
that fsr4 leak came along with the entire fidelityfx sdk aside from fsr and amd frame gen being essentially removed from the git repo, so the game engine im working on wouldve broke cuz im using some of that stuff
that sometimes isnt a huge deal, like upgrading from 6.5 to 6.5.1 for that dependency probably wont break anything
For posterity, the message Linus read during the show this week regarding Sir Ability Toucan
woah thats you
But sometimes it may very well be. You just never know till you try
Allegedly
So they say
i love you too
what did i walk into
i love you too

I love you too
while ur here how far back do i need to scroll to understand whats happening
don't worry about it
because i clicked here on accident and 1st message was what i replied to š

guess ima infinite scroll then
I love you too
is it
I have a ton of pictures of two kitties i am designing a calendar for to help fundraise for their care, they live at my local pools.
You are a treasure, hope you sleep well!
Got an email with this in it. https://legal.epicgames.com/en-US/epicgames/young-player-policy
Looks like epic has a version of their privacy policy that is friendlier for kids to read
Last Updated: November 28, 2025
Lol
Maybe thatās the effective date
Weāve posted these changes so you can take a look before they go into effect on November 28th:
Yea
hey that's my birthday
Can we make this like a global thing for all things including for adults, I struggle reading the full versions 
I'd love this, but we'd need lawmakers in every country to be on board. Companies don't usually like to change things in ways that benefit consumers unless their hands are forced.
I know ideal world etc
reads pretty well ngl. would love for this type of non legal summary to become standard
Iāve seen a few sites do side by sides
Or section of legal text followed by summary, section of legal text followed by summary, etc
The side by side comparisons showing exactly what changed with an explanation of what it means for me are my favorite. Fact is, if I feel like I need a lawyer to understand your Terms of Service, you have already failed me.
Opting out of Epic Games binding arbitration each time they change the ToS is fun though. I always get a response telling me I "must mail it to an address" despite it being 2025.
One use of AI for me is getting it to sumonise things for me. Itās not im stupid but some of them are longer than a book
Also getting it to do YouTube videos to check if Iām being clickbaited
Not all videos the ones where the title is sus
Car
huh?
- Cat are cute
working
heading home after a good days work
nap time

Yep.
finally caught up after many months of being two to three episodes behind
I don't think I've missed a second of WAN show since 2020
hehe i'm almost a full year behind. Last episode was the one just before Christmas or just after.
Was listening to the latest WAN show, the segment about data centers using aero derivative gas turbine generators was really interesting as we actually use similar gas turbine generators in my field of work. I just wanted to bring up that they are probably natural gas powered, and not diesel/jet fuel. Not sure where else to put a slight correction like this, since I am unable to listen to the show live.
Also, my employer recently announced a joint project where they are going to start using the natural gas turbine generators we use in the fracking industry for electric pumps, to actually power data centers in the Middle East, so at first I thought the show segment was going to be about that news š
Windows dropping the windows kernel would be a great move in performance and stability standpoints, but if they chose to use Linux the vendors wouldn't buy licenses. Microsoft switching to Linux and creating compatability layers would be beneficial for pretty much everyone except for them
I hope Macrohard creates an open source compatability layer or something called walls
another outage at AWS on the US-EAST-1 region
oh damn go Mojang
yooo what
page is taking forever to lead š is it hosted on aws-us-east-1 
microsoft is seeing issues across all their services rn
idk if it's related to aws or not
Azure seems generally down as well not just aws
indeed it is
Discord real happy theyāre on GCP rn
Something something bubble
Hope it pops. Along with the main reason for it to have become such a massive bubble.
At this point its not a matter of if, only when.
Even the AI bros think its a bubble
It'll pop
This week's show is gonna be on Halloween
If Linus isn't in some lame costume, we riot.
It can't be a good/cool costume.
It's Linus.
Bets on whether heāll be wearing The Jensen
I like the odds of saying "yes"
Looks great
In fact earlier I thought about the inclusion of the hat and how "I cannot with that" could turn into "I cannot with hat"
But make sure the costume is also PC or else we riot too
Thatās great
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I saw this and I wouldn't put it past Michael "Searge" Stoyke was part of that considering he's the one created Minecraft Coder Pack.
What does Michael Burry think about AI? The next big thing to short
early wan... 2:30 - that's what, 5:30 eastern?
it's 12:26 here rn
3 hour diff sounds right, but any time anyone asks I second guess myself
i didnt say now, they just posted wan show will be at 2:30 PST
oh you're east; that makes more sense š¤¦š»āāļø
I thought you were west coast asking about east cost
no i am in ohio
I am in unspecified east coast state
the early schedule makes me wonder if they will carve a pumpkin
<t:1761946200:t> (<t:1761946200:R>)
Bwahahahaha
Early wan to catch the world series or maybe trick or treating
Likely will miss wan being 5:30 EST where Trick or Treating starts at 6:00 PM~.
Good news wan?
thought of that im going to skip going out today only so i can watch the wan show lol
iāve really been waiting for this wan show lol
is it "ok" for adults to go trick or treat over there? Pretty sure people find it distastefull to beg for candy if you're already a teenager over here
more like trick or drink
halloween parties are a thing and a few of the ones i've been to have had their own "trick or treat" style thing when you show up to the host's place
I see. Maybe Cory was going with their kids or siblings. 
We had a light party in Auckland yesterday, adults got treats as well (hot dog, hot chocolate, pop corn and candy toss) as well as prizes
Aftermath of photography š
Got sent home with those things above plus a bag of sausages and 4 muffins š¤£
Oh neat, BC is still on DST so only 7 hours behind
Passing out candy.
How I feel after too many
Hi everyone, my name is embarrassedshimmeringbelugawhale and I have a mild sugar addiction.
that sounds like a great time
It was, the kids loved it.
I do some pro bono work if there is a community event etc and if I get some kind of thank you itās a bonus
Oh, to not get your house egged? lmao
Early but late, typical
Is it wan if it happens on time?
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Damn it, Lukeās wearing The Jensen
Its live bois
luke looks like plouffe lol
lol Sammy gonna intro
Linus looking beter than usual
Just copy Bo Burnham's Welcome To The Internet
WELCOME to the Wanshow, have a look around!
In the first two Pokemon Gens, there was a trick to the Celadon casino
One of the slot machines were rigged
I think the one that was rigged was tied to your trainer ID
But if you found it, you could easily get maximum tokens to get the Porygon
secret lab headrest turned the right side up. FINALLY
frick i shoulda done this
You could have full on committed to the bit.
I am certain Linus would have been down for that joke
You did great, glad I caught the pre-show 
did linus just get rick rolled
Dan caught in 4K
is this where i can ask questions for the wan show ?
You can ask, they will not answer...
gotcha
kek bot deleted my joke š
Discord is entirely unmonitored for the show, best place to ask is floatplane chat or merch messages, failing that youtube chat if you're crazy, and twitch if you want to be ignored harder than the ugly kitten in the adoption shelter
yeah i don't feel like paying $ just to ask a question, ill figure it out on my own then.
If only I knew you were doing the intro, would've included you in the intro animation, darn.
I had you in the one in September though, Barrington recommended Halloween you to be wearing Gengar lol
yaa i saw! very nice suprise hahaha and me being on the show was like literally last minute planned
On Christmas WAN Show, do the intro again I'll replace Linus with your Kitagawa cosplay :p
From a technical perspective, aircraft have been able to fly virtually autonomously for a while now.. Autopilot and landing assist can really do all the work if nothing is going wrong.. so I doubt AI is gonna replace pilots.. but it might, if done right, make flying even safer.. more layers of checks.. of course it could also cause crashes too when pilots either don't believe what the AI is telling them, or when the AI gets it wrong, as has happened many times already with Autopilot in aircraft now..
Has anyone noticed the messy UGREEN AI NAS stuff that happening currently?
For context:
The release was said to be this year (https://nas.ugreen.com/pages/ugreen-ai-nas-feature-introduction), now a few days ago there was an update email regarding the UGREEN AI NAS Timeline (attached as screenshot, received on 28.10.2025), so far so good. I dont mind the extra wait and furthermore a free UPS would be awesome. The same announcement was sent into their discord by an employee (original statement is also attached as screenshot).
Now the weird part starts: I think on the 29.10 or the 30.10 the announcement was quietly deleted from their discord. It was reposted by an Discord Admin (not employee of UGREEN on the 30.10.2025 in the evening) because he felt like the people on the discord should have the same information and it was not communicated to him why it was deleted. It was then deleted again at point in the night of the 30.10.2025 to the 31.10.2025. And today a new statement by the employee was posted (attached as screenshot as well) with the parts about the extended warranty and UPS completely removed. After being asked about why the UPS is missing from the new discord announcement it was said "We will devise alternative compensation plans.". Whatever this means.
As I said in the beginning: I dont mind the extra wait. I was really excited about the announcement and the option to receive extra warranty and a free UPS (This was not only posted on discord by an employee that was to quick but sent out by "UGREEN NAS us@nas.ugreen.com"). For me this just gives a really bad vibe and I feel if something was promised it must be delivered.
I am happy to hear the opinions of you guys!
Happy Halloween!
<@&750150305383186585> Someone got phished and is spamming in other channels^ Dealt with, ty
(Also make me mod so I can have a banhammer, ty)
no make me mod
$35 for a t-shirt?
I just for my 6800XT this month
But this actually doesn't effect me cause I am on Linux.
AMD does not seem to have any control on the Mesa drivers
Bully the AI bot some more Linus
Yeah they dont
I believe amd does say that the mesa drivers are the ones to use on linux
Most distrros just use them automatically
I'm on Fedora and just do not have to think about drivers
Amd did have their own drivers, but they dropped those and just endorsed mesa
oh the greatest hits shirts are available in tall sizes if that interests anyone
I think the only major distro which doesn't just use them is Arch when installed raw, but if you install Arch with any of the flavours on top (Endeavour, Manjaro, etc) then we go straight to auto-detecting and installing the drivers for your system on setup
Only reason arch doesn't by default is because you gotta make sure you remember to actually install them manually, which for CLI is just not important
Best i can do is a gif.
Is there any "Opt Out" of the new Upscale on youtube? But client side? Eg, have it select the highest not upscaled option
Yes open the video, then hit the settings cog, quality, and select the one that is not marked as upscaled I think
The extension tweaks for youtube is great. I have it set to 480p when windowed and 1080p when fullscreen. They will likely update if the upscale is separate from normal, I'm sure they'll have a way to disable it at some point.
this reminds me of the first time i installed arch when i forgot to install wifi drivers lol
I think I forgot to set up the package manager lol
Looks like Linus is not the only one who doesn't know what Hard R means:
p.s.: Almost nobody outside the US knows what it means
"Almost nobody"? this seems odd given the immediate response by so many of the people who saw the clip, and how many of them are statistically not going to be from the US....
it wasn't a phrase i'd ever heard before the hard r wan show
This is the first time i have ever seen this site wow what is 9gag
Meme site that has gone to sh*t like most of them...
Oh
I am 35 from europe, have been on the internet since I am 13, mostly on English speaking servers, forums, watching a lot of English stand up comedy etc. I have never heard the term "hard R" before the Linus incident. It is US slang that is not very common in Europe.
Also Linus and Luke discussed where most of WAN show viewers come from before. It is a huge US majority, especially live. Also a lot of people get on the bandwagon if there something to cry about.
Same here. I still insist it should mean what Linus thought and not what the rasists think.
there's also a lot of au/nz viewers for how many total people live here but we also tend to get a lot of american media compared to the rest of the world so it would make sense that lots of people here might have heard of it
After reading up on the words origin I finally understand were it came from and why this is particularily offensive, because it is ment to be differenciated from the original use of the n-word. The north american pronunciation is where the R is emphasized compared to the african version where there is an A at the end. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hard_r
I did not have Patrick Gelsinger bulding a christian AI on my sunday bingo sheet
Terminally online people with no social skills think the rest of the world knows or cares about their slang
or just the north american bubble
I'm terminally online and North American and I had no idea what it was before it came up on WANShow :p And even since then I've seen it come up only maybe 2 times since without direct relation to the WANShow incident..
I like the approach that amazon has with their kindles. You pay 20⬠more or less for the device weather or not you want ads on the lock screen.
If you accept ads you get the hardware a bit cheaper. If not you pay full price
TIL the "special offers" (aka ads) thing on kindles aren't a thing here, which would explain why I'd never seen any. That and the fact that I can count on one hand the times I've connected it to the internet in the nearly 8 years since I've bought it. Calibre FTW
kindle paperwhite is really convenient for me
I use it to read at night
I awarded myself with the paperwhite in 2017 after my best reading year: 81 books.
Ironically, I never got even close to that number again, tho tbf it was absolutely an outlier, as I'd never made it past 52bpy before (or since) then.
oh the greatest hits shirts are available in tall sizes if that interests anyone
hear me out, if im paying that much for a "smart" fridge, and you feel the need to advertise to me because im clearly costing you so damn much you can justify the hit to your image
charge me a damn subscription.
if you wont offer a subscription, at least don't show the ads.
We need to stop encouraging companies to subsidise their products with advertising, and start actually chargin what the device costs.
if it has ongoing costs, then charge, or give us the option to host the services ourselves
Price in a reasonable lifetime cost into the price.
i don't care, but stop forcing ads down my throat. It's like that "telly" brand that sells tvs which have an always on ad-bar
(context link: https://www.telly.com/)
Direct from Telly's website:
All For Free
So Smart,
It Pays for ItselfAll TVs come with ads. Itās time you got cut in. Brands pay for the non-intrusive ad on the second Smart Screen. Those ads pay for Telly. Plain and simple.
So you get a "free" as in money TV, but in order to keep said TV, you get the luxury of always seeing a second screen consuming your power, and having a camera in your home to make sure you're watching the adverts and if you try to do anything about it to stop the adverts they come and repossess the tv because you don't actually own the device, you just give them the luxury of collecting your data and in return you get a tv which is mediocre anyway.
Why are we encouraging this behaviour from companies?
I pay for youtube premium because I don't want to see ads. I will keep paying for youtube premium, because I don't mind paying to use a service ad free.
I do not pay for any streaming services, because all of the stuff I want to watch bad enough to care is on youtube. I pay for floatplane to support LMG, I can't afford to pay for shipping to the EU from LTTstore so I don't buy merch more than twice a year if even that much.
I pay for email because I want to use my own domain, and for the hassle of self hosting it is simply not worth it.
I don't want to use gmail because it is free.
I self host gitea because whilst having github is nice, I don't trust that it won't just start advertising to me.
I don't see why everyone is ok with becoming the product all the time and still buying all of these devices.
My new washing machine is a "smart" machine with an app. It doesn't even connect to the wifi because it is not being paired. if it ever got paired, I'd block the device from connecting to my network.
the smart TV we have is connected to the wifi, but because I use pi-hole what tracking it does do is mostly blocked anyway. If I could pay more for a dumb tv, I sure as hell would.
oops, accidentally ranted the whole chat away, sorry folks
I'm actually enjoying this rant, as I agree on most accounts (I generally think like the "average" user cannot afford/set up self-hosting various web services, so I don't ever consider that as widely available alternative - if you can do it, sure, great idea, but not viable for the larger audience).
I, however, feel like the world's advertising is currently super out of hands. You can't as much as leave the house without running into ads, on the street, in the metro, on the highway. They are in your post box from supermarket catalogues to "special offers". And now, that they are digital, they are in your home everywhere.
A raspberry pi is perfectly good for hosting a surprising amount of things these days, and if you cut off paying so damn much for all your streaming subscriptions you could afford a top spec on in realistically three months ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
The reason I use adblock isn't because I don't want websites to be able to make money on the side. I'm just sick of the intrusiveness, and often the inappropriateness of the ads nowadays.
As I said, as a tech-minded person you're not wrong, but Miss Smith in the old people's home down the road has no idea what you just said. And there's way too many people like her. So again, your point is valid, it's just not applicable for the majority
then we clearly need a new point of focus: why is it not applicable, how can we make it applicable....
Tech illiteracy is half of the issue that we're facing, and half the reason why these companies keep getting away with it
Again, I perfectly agree with that statement
I'm also wondering whether getting people tech-savvy would just trigger companies to have even less avoidable ways to shove ads down our throats
So it's two completely valid issue
But they are for the sake of your original rant, unrelated
perhaps, but at this point with the level of tech savvy that I seem to be seeing from those in charge of these companies, I highly doubt it could possibly be worse.
(I will absolutely regret uttering this future into existence)

I should probably screenshot this now and paste it back in 5-10 years if we're still both around this channel lol
But, for the sake of argument, I am writing my own software right now, it is designed specifically with security, and as little tracking as is possible whilst still giving me the tools I need to actually debug errors and catch issues.
Basically every single competitor in the space is priced around the same price as what I am estimating that my company is going to be able to charge for the same product.
My company will naturally have a lower revenue because I have personally committed to never selling user data except for the purposes of selling the company outright. Which itself is an option I hope I never feel like I am in a position where I have to take.
If my business plan works, then realistically speaking there is zero reason why my company could not be competetive with the others in the space, and we get to market on our morality and ethics.
I am fully building my business around trying to be sustainable, and efficient, whilst being a good role model for the change I want to see in the world
"all TVs come with ads"
No??
tv channels have ads and free/dirt cheap streaming services have ads.... To cover the cost of running them and content licensing...
This company is insane
And anyone that gets one of those TVs is insane
yes, I am highly aware
that's why they're such a good example for my rant, haha (I know you were ranting with me, sorry it wasn't clear)
And I'm ranting with you
Exact same situation with YouTube and floatplane aswell lol
Netflix and Disney are family accounts but anything else is on Plex because it's not Disney or not on Netflix because Netflix are fucking useless at actually having things
Like here currently they have back to the future.... 1
Want to watch 2 and 3? Well fuck you
And I also pay for gsuit
Smart applicants with only wifi annoy me greatly. Give me ethernet.
I pay for spotify too because I simply cannot get comfortable with the youtube interface and frankly the experience on YTM is subpar since they wont split the damn watch histories out into two seperate things.
I don't want music recommendations in the youtube app, I want them in the youtube music app, google, you're sitting on so much money if you win this war, but you keep fucking it up. Basic user experience, so awful to use with YTM :/
I would drop spotify in a heartbeat if youtube music fixed some of the fundamental flaws it has
I do not want to be paying the same price for youtube premium and spotify (which is basically what they've achieved here in the UK now thanks to the most recent price rises)
With all due respect. how the hell, can Google afford to run YouTube with the current premium price if Spotify can't afford to run their own basic services with the same amount of money.
(and yes I know, AI summary, blegh)
Screenshots from both websites to prove my point:
Basically because google is a cloud company, their cost of running YouTube is lower than if someone else tried, because they already own the datacenters and don't have to pay retail cost
And yes, I know I could just stream music from my own personal library, but at the same time, I am not in the financial position where I could reasonably afford to purchase all of the >3000 tracks in my spotify library
(I know, cloud stuff is fun to work out prices on to be honest... great fun dealing with it all, lol)
I gave up trying to run my music library in Plex... Can't even buy half of the stuff
I didn't but any of it to be clear 
But even if I wanted to, half of it wasn't available
oh, I am absolutely not above the seven seas myself, but for the sake of the argument, it is simply not viable financially these days, media is so expensive
The stuff I couldn't torrent had to be ripped from youtube
I recently bought a copy of dire strait's on every street for mum since her car has a cd player and it was $15nzd
considering the fact that that's NZ, that is surprisingly cheap compared to what I expected, but still probably quite expensive. I have no context for the strength of NZD vs GBP
Also got the new Mumford and sons for her and it was $27
1 pound is $2.31nzd right now
economy is in the shitter
fine for a single cd
But if your playlist is very varied and you want to buy every album on it at once... Bankruptcy time 
If you can even get everything
hehe... you're telling me
according to my last.fm history I've scrobbbled tracks from no less than 6,721 individual albums
if I wanted to buy the CD for every single one of those albums at once it would cost me £47,047 presuming that I could find all of them, and I paid the same amount (£7) per album
Can you check something on Spotify for me?
sure
Is Mumford and sons's wilder mind album on there?
It disappeared from YouTube and only the singles from it are available
Hmm
if you want the CD, Spotify have a listing for it but idk if it is available in NZ:
https://shop.spotify.com/en/artist/3gd8FJtBJtkRxdfbTu19U2/product/wilder-mind-deluxe-cd
Wait can you check if it's on YouTube? Might be a weird region thing
seems like a region thing
try this link for youtube: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leeJGPlTaouSGwxNulTPh15Da-lEqC66A
Yeep everything except the singles on that list aren't available
Weird
YouTube really should name and shame instead of being vague about why it's not available
also, side note, I know this is probably not topic worthy, but can we please give some credit to android for this feature:
https://medium.com/justeattakeaway-tech/live-updates-and-progress-notifications-for-android-16-at-jet-b0c87eab17b4
I now need to pin this article somewhere that I can keep safe because I will no doubt end up using this API in my app when I finally make it lol
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That's.... expensive. I mean, ok, I'm kinda cheating by still using my Hungarian bank to pay and using my mum's address as billing information, but it was simply because I started my subscription there and when I moved, I changed to Duo to cover my SO's sub, since he needed to cancel his US sub anyway.
And we decided to just continue the Hungarian pricing instead of switching over to the Danish pricing
I started paying for a YouTube premium family plan just so I didn't have to hear the ads when dad was watching stuff on the tv
For a couple years my account identified as American so I could be on a friend's plan 
Yeah, with Spotify, it only changes region if your bank is from the same region.
If I ever close that account, I will have to transfer the Spotify (and Netflix) subscription(s).
But until then, my Duo is only ā¬7,95 or Ā£6,99 as opposed to the UK's Ā£12.99
I find that this price gap is insane
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I can't change playback sspeed
only option in the menu is "normal", the custom slider doesn't change, holding space shows "x2" but video continues at x1, and shift + > doesn't do anything
works for me
definitely seems like a skill local issue
Fwiw, while Qobuz has started banning accounts from using qobuz-dl, nicotine/soulseek will always be a thing (it's p2p), and it has a lot of stuff you can't find on (at least public) trackers
Linux has improved significantly since the previous linux challenge, are there any plans on this right now?
Literally comes up almost every WANShow..
Linus is waiting/hoping for a formal SteamOS release to install on anything.. for better or worse thats the distro he seems set on using..
A friend of mine insists it will never happen because Steam won't want to support all the possible hardware combinations and such.
Fairly sure Valve said releasing it for anyone was the plan.. but wouldn't surprise me if they give a list of generally supported hardware and say "beyond this point, here be dragons.."
"...or bitcoin farms."
(just connecting the previous topics
)
Ever noticed you're getting way more typos on iPhone lately? You're not going crazy - it's iOS.
"tv channels have ads" brits laughing in bbc
and i mean sure, you're meant to pay your tv license but they can't do anything about it if you don't, and it's also just a very reasonable price to pay considering what you get in return anyway
The most thought provoking article I have read this week:
A Norwegian bus company wants to know if their buses could be abused by China in the case of war.
So they drive two buses deep into a limestone mine to isolate them from the internet and forensically investigate how they work.
In the mine, investigators discover a Chinese kill switch which could destroy all Chinese buses.
In Denmark, that is 57 percent of the bus fleet.
Source (Danish):
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I'd love to see this discussed on wan show. It's an ad blocker built on ublock origin that gives advertisers false click-thrus so they are charged by the host of the website, but they never actually make an impression on the users. It's a great way to support creators without tolerating the cesspool of advertising.
https://adnauseam.io/
NGL, I don't mind that. Wasting ad money sounds like a great idea
this sounds more unethical then just blocking the ads outright
i like the way the url cuts off
like yeah guys it's a huge problem, germany figured out the rat
This video is by two different channels? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgD1kg3U14 Is this new or am I stupid.
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Its not new, but how they show it on YT was recently updated
I first saw it a week or two ago when The Fat Electrician did a video that had another creator credited too..
It's a new thing where channels can collaborate and it shows up in the feed of people subscribed to either.
i've been seeing it for a good month or two
I started seeing it with the #TeamWater campaign where you had āMrBeast and Mark Roberā and vice versa, couldnāt properly add those videos to a playlist for a while
Maybe it is a staggered roll out for either creators or users. I only within the last couple weeks got the new ugly UI - but I really like that I can pop out the playlist in fullscreen mode. Very much dislike scrolling down is a thing in fullscreen again though.
Oh and the 3 recommends instead of 9 - it's just a lot of wasted space and potential.
Yeah itās the same as instagram collaboration more or less
I saw both creators names shown before I got the new UI.. so they werenāt tied together..
Posted them by mistake on here #lttstore message
imagine it's just registered to some po box in the middle of nowhere
not me placing a $100+ order a few days ago only for there to be a special spend >100 have a chance to win something promo now š
Murphys law
idk that this is really tech related
It really is WAN Show related because Linus keeps gushing over Lina Khan on the show every chance he gets
Ya I give it a pass, and I'll be shocked if Linus doesn't mention it in at least passing on Friday..
OMG. Got a response from Linus the man himself on x/Twitter. Made my day!
Ah yes, like most companies in North America that don't want to be found... š
I still have more hope for a GTA VI release date than I do for Star Citizen.
Wow, I'm so happy for you!
I like how the reply in question would probably get someone Warshipped
Kinda want to install AdNauseam after reading this https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/bombshell-report-exposes-how-meta-relied-on-scam-ad-profits-to-fund-ai/
Posting this here too for the fellows that don't use reddit
Title: Is fast chargin killing your battery? A little is the answer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/s/KYNULMil3B
āChrist, what an asshole.ā https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-school-palo-alto-shut-down/
something something Epstein island
what is with billionaires and doing weird things with kids
ngtl i used to watch every WAN show... but ever since a few weeks ago.... just haven't felt like it anymore

I hate living in Sask and realzing everywhere else had DST so all my shows are going to be even later
I used to watch every WAN show but the I took an arrow to the knee
I just like them because it's something to look forward to on a friday night living in the middle of nowhere. I don't really care about the tech space nearly as much as I did 10 years ago
Mostly because 10 years ago I lived with my mom and now I have a whole house worth of bills and can't afford tech š
Imagine being that rich and having neighbours... What a loser
I'd've bought my own city by the second B
m,an i really should have just waited a week for all of these deals š such a stupid move lmao
you win some, you loose some, oh well
They need to start this shit soon, I just realized I was vibing to winnie the pooh jazz in the youtube tab.
end of streak?
lol not even close
They've been a fuck load later than this
It's only 5:22pm in vancouver
Lmao Iāve never caught a wan show and wanted to buy something on the same day I gotta come up with a good question for my merch message
ask them about the thing
Tell them they lost the game
Wan Show streak.
Like I said, it's only 5:30 in vancouver. chill lol
It was early last week.. they gotta makeup for that this week..
Of course the thing how could I forget
guys I need the WAN show I am 2 beers in and it hasn't started yet. this isn't going to end well 'hic
you've got 10 more in ya
path of exile is a good way to pass the time
https://apnews.com/article/ruter-yutong-china-norway-electric-buses-931f3dbdab3f82402da68cbcb31f856b nothing to see here...
guys can you be my wan show bell icon? i dont want notifications for everything lol
it was halloween, thats why it was early
Excuses
ask them why the keep ignoring chat when asked about Hasan dog
Because they are smart and don't monitor twitch chat..
always funny once every few weeks they get to be more than an hour late and a bunch of people freak out like its not normal
most people don't give a fuck about streamer drama and talking on it is a waste of time
most streamers are narcissist pieces of shit
Streamer Drama can be interesting, but I don't get why people need to take one piece of drama and demand answers from everyone else on the platform..
I feel yukki. I actually logged into twitch to get the discord because of how late the show is.
it's only an hour and a half late the fuck yall talking about
for long stretches of time it's been over 2 hours late consistently
Ya 4hrs is where I'd get worried..
we're barely past the upper end of the standard deviation of lateness lol. this happens every few weeks. idk why people keep freaking out
Then I am going out for diner. Ya'll can start the show without me then.
Itās official, the skull from the last WAN show has possessed Luke and Linus
I don't think they care if you watch lmao
Usually no... .but I live where they live hahaha
Congrats?
I'll be writing a stern letter and leaving it on the door for sure
A lot of people live in the Vancouver area
I mean there is a floatplane series called "why is wan late", this is normal lol
Iām curious what the excuse is today tho lmao
last week they were stupid early
Is The WAN Show late? Yes. How late is The WAN Show? Probably very! See a countdown to when WAN is supposed to start, as well as how late it's been before.
screwed my night
Ya I'm used to it... Basically needed to know if anyone knew if I had time. I'll watch the Toobz video later. Have fun waiting nerds!
weird flex - it's 4 in the morning for me
I generally don't care, but I do wish if they knew ahead of time that a show is gonna be early (or late, but most of the late ones are shoots running long and such), that they would let us know early.. Like if they knew the Halloween show was gonna be early a week early, tell us, not a couple of hrs..
That would be nice but I think it's so chaotic there a lot of the time that all they'd be able to say is "it'll be late" which most already expect
like they can't say it'll be an hour late because then another 40 minute crisis might happen
Ya as I said I really don't expect it for late shows, early ones would be nice..
Theres been several times they clearly knew the show was gonna be early but either didn't say anything and just started early, or announced it was gonna be early like an hr before.. :/
I think the why is wan late series is their attempt at softening the blow
for sure the early ones have caught me off guard, I just assumed I missed something
I'm suprised they do so much on Friday's because doesn't LMG have Friday off or shortened work days? I remember something about it on floatplane
Nope.. at least not generally..
Maybe some of LMG
Friday is generally one of the bit shoot days, its normally when they do the Extreme Tech Upgrades for one..
Linus takes Monday off.. well.. off/works from home..
I've worked in offices where leaving an hour early on fridays was normal, and others where it was crunch time within the same companies
thank you
Ah "... a four week initative..." so they might not do it still, but IDK
I wonder when it'll start
im not getting laid tonight until wan show is over so lets get the show on the road guys
LMG stands for Liquid Metal Gaming
Is Wan Show starting soon?
lol, no one knows
linus doesn't know either

The WAN show is currently late by 2h 9m 28s
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The Louvre Password Was āLouvreā - WAN Show November 7, 2025
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guys path of exile global chat doesn't care the wan show starts in 17 minutes. they are dropping F bombs at me
live
And we're live
if you say so
lies
f
And it's over
That was quick...
I closed all my other stuff
it was dns
w00T
Whatās up chat, happy fridays
did linus just pronounce the louvre as loov ra
Yep.. probably doesn't remember hearing the word before..
I highly doubt that he speaks fluent french
He understands it I do believe, but its not something hes used regularly since he was in his teens..
probably just to specify that it was spelled out like it's spelled in french since many viewers don't know how it's spelled. The vast majority of people in NA have heard of the Louvre and know how it's pronounced lol
That's like a basic trivial pursuit question from the 80s
There has been lots of times I've heard a name/word but when I see it written down it doesn't connect, at least not fast enough lol
I promise you linus knows it's "luve"
missed it how are they getting a house thought he didn't want to take a house up?
Hes been talked into it, cause doing it performs to well.. and its not pratical to do it at his house anymore because we get a 40min video, but it ends up with his house being a mess for weeks..
Also hes not gonna take some affordable housing or something and jack up prices and rent it out or something..
But I forget what he was looking for, either farther out or something.. it was a few weeks ago they talked about it..
Has Linus considered odoo yet lol
ngl... when i found that out i was like "well.. you might as well take the stuff, we just let you in"
Thought the power went out for a second there for them lol..
Always wait for WAN to buy stuff. Unless you bought it last WAN, in which case, shit luck.
yea it was sat/sun of last week š
wanted to cop some of the throwback designs
Around 3 million, in fact.
that's nuts, can you really not have electronics in a checked bag in Canada?
You can, did you not finish listening to that segment? The only thing you can't have is batteries in checked luggage
that's kinda wild, here in the states there's a whole ass website breaking down what you can and cannot take
Batteries are generally not allowed in checked luggage, since the pressure and temperature control in the luggage area isn't really as good/necessary, which can cause batteries to swell up and leak out. Battery acid is fairly corrosive and could potentially cause damage to the airplane. So yeah, not a Canada specific thing. I'm pretty sure it's an IATA requirement, and most major airlines are operating under IATA regulations.
Yeah pretty sure most if not all countries/airlines ban batteries in checked luggage
Tbh that guy was on a power trip. Iāve had gear in my checked and any batteryās in my carry on.
- āI would like to speak with your supervisorā
- āI am the supervisorā
My next question might have been āwell you must report to someone and Iād like to talk to them because your opinion is bullshit and Iād like a second opinionā
Idk if anyone shares this fear with me, but I fear if I put my electric toothbrush in my checked luggage, itās gonna get confiscated
I had my whole camera and we are talking body/lenses in my checked, with the batteries in my carryon with their protection on
Its broken down in Canada too.. but that can't stop someone on a power trip from ignoring the actual rules out of ignorance or malice..
There is here in Canada too..? https://www.catsa-acsta.gc.ca/en/what-can-bring
If you were going out for dinner you were going to miss half the show anyway 
Just... travel with an analog toothbrush then?
Checked mine for several travels to the US and other countries. It was never an issue
Smaller lithium batteries are generally fine tbh. They mostly look for either normal single-use AA/AAA batteries and anything like smartphone batteries and above.
Thereās this thing called a carry on bag
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F1EmHSs2vps?feature=share this short has several numbers visible on the card. is it a fake?
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I'm pretty sure Linus Tech Tips is not his legal name. I think I'd recall a dBrand segment if that were the case.
tbh... i wouldn't put it past them to pay for a name change
I just thought it would've been a corporate card
no numbers are visible. Just "LINUS TECH TIPS" (I assume a company card)
different light angle (there arent numbers that are only visible at an angle)
i assume its one of those cards where the actual numbers are just printed on the back
Itās actually really common mines like that
i know my bank does it but i dont look at other peoples cards often so idk š
I like it, the old style made it hard to read, this one is dead easy
Yeah the new visas don't have the numbers stamped into them
Everything is on the back
TIL Amazonās attempt to buy iRobot was actually scuppered by the regulators https://www.theverge.com/news/817536/irobots-revenue-has-tanked-and-its-almost-out-of-cash
Doesnt help with the recent thing that came out about roombas
Come on bro...š
good.
it actually looks kinda like the card is bent in the top left corner, possibly a printed cardboard one, though hard to tell with the gloss on the waves in the second screenshot
this may be worth discussing on the show since they cover nvidia anyway https://finance.yahoo.com/news/softbank-unloads-nvidia-stake-5-065809827.html
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start of the bubble?
i think the bubble started long ago
Right now they're desperately trying to make sure that they can all survive by owning pieces of eachother. I am not sure it will work.
no that'll just mean if one goes then the whole thing will tumble down even faster
You mean start of the popping?
No that's exactly what has caused the bubble
disagree. I'd accept helping to sustain the bubble, but it is in no way what started it since the bubble was very firmly already there.
Youāre right. I worded it wrong
Canary in the coalmine
A bank wouldn't get rid of a supposedly good investment for no reason
You are forgetting that this is SoftBank
not exactly renowned for their impressive track record of good financial choices
Stop what you're doing, Valve just did a media embargo for three new things:
Replacement for Valve Index: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/steam-frame-specs-availability/
Replacement for Steam Machines: https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-hands-on-preview-specs-announcement
Replacement for Steam Controller: https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/controllers/steam-controller-specs-availability-hands-on/
Iāll take one of each plz
I am going to be so in debt by the end of 2026
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The prototype didnāt do nearly as well at native 4K ā just 24fps average ā but consoles generally donāt play the most demanding games at native 4K, either. I also benched with the same 720p settings I use to test every handheld and saw a solid 131fps, though the low resolution looked pretty ugly on a 4K TV!
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it's 15x15x15 cm which means it's not using a standard itx motherboard which i don't love
but otherwise it does seem quite nice
It displeases me that they made a cube and didn't call it a cube. Like, what's the point of making it a cube then?
Its a Linux Console.. I'm fine with it not being just a PC..
Especially since they are making the OS available for you to build a PC and run it.. so if you want upgrade paths, thats an option..
If they are smart though they can sell it at a low(ish) price, makeup for it on their game sales like console co's do..
Saw someone calling it the GabeCube
If I get one, I'll need one after-market part.. a Borg Cube case mod.
I am not against this community name
if i were to get one i would totally do this
but i probably wouldnt get one, as i have no need for a steam console since i already have my desktop computer. If anything, i would get the frame and maybe the controller, both depending on price which probably wont be for sure until theyre released next year
I've never done VR, so the Frame, maybe, if the price is right.. but I've been considering building a system for my TV for a while now, especially since SteamOS..
So if the price is right it'll be very tempting..
And if the price is right, AND Konami finally gives us a PC port of Metal Gear Solid 4, I'll have no reason to have a console anymore š
i heard people speculating around $400-500 mark for the console, but idk if thats based on anything.
and the verge said valve is targeting less than index ($999) for the frame
im still caught up in the excitement of the announcement, so idk for sure. but if the frame released or opened preorders today for <$1200 i almost certainly would have immedietly bought it lol (i've actually been saving some money the past year or so just in case)
but im glad they didnt, becuase that means i can sit on it some more and decide if i actually want/need it, and that i dont get caught up in the excitement lol
Ya I'd be hard pressed to justify spending $1k+ on VR.. not without solid experience, which is of course what I lack with it :p
ive been doing vr since quest 2. got the psvr2 when they released pc support, but the bluetooth issues with it are so annoying
i do beat saber for exercise, and i like 3d movies. plus occasionally some vrchat with friends
i'd also want to hear how good the streaming compression actually is with the frame. A big reason i got the psvr2 was because its wired
Only VR I ever did was like an hour playing Eve Valkyrie.. Which was fun but also painful with first gen vr and needing glasses lol
ah yeah ive got perscription inserts for my psvr2. in the ltt video linus said valve is working on first-party perscription inserts, but it sounded like those wont be available at launch
i mean its using custom chips already with soldered components so i think standard pc parts is out of the window a while ago
You see, my issue with VR: I refuse to buy something which I know I will immediately want to upgrade if I like the experience, but I also don't want to drop lots of money on finding out if I like the experience....
(and before it gets suggested, the nearest location with any VR headsets where I could reasonably try it out is a three hour train ride from me and that alone would make it cheaper to actually just buy a headset and have it shipped to my house)
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If you guys are still looking for the refrigerant for the super cooler machine I would be able to get it for you
:o
The first Russian "humanoid" robot powered by artificial intelligence stumbled on stage during its debut walkout in Moscow on November 11 and landed face down. Named AIDOL, the robot attempted to raise its right arm and wave to the audience but appeared to lose balance and fell face down on stage.
#robot #russia #ai #humanoid #fall
Well the russian robot can fall like Bezos already š¤£
Elon has watched too much minority report
oh hey, it learned from it's ancestors to successfully imitate the Soviet state!
Cannot wait for DBrand to start doing skins for the Steam Box... especially if they are Hellraiser related. You opened the box, linux came
another good fit would be Destiny
borg cube skin would be cool
(the classic design, not whatever tf the picard s1 design was)
Steam Box needs a Se7en skin
i kinda wish steam machine can reach msrp of 500-600 cad
so i can just have one as a linux machine that i can also bring around for some gaming
Would say too much but 500 cad is like 300 usd isn't it? IMO max price for anything with 16gb/8gb is $399. It really really needed to be 12gb 192-bit on the GPU or even better 16gb 256-bit. And then they can offer a 16gb/512gb and 32gb/2tb option but then also have a freakin barebones kit!
like 350
i personally think it would sell pretty well at around 350 to 400 usd price range (for base model) but im not that hopeful for the price point since even base lcd steamdeck is 500 cad, and i feel like it would probably hit a simillar price point as base deck oled
Ya, I'd love >$500, but I don't actually believe it will be.
If it was under 500, would seriously be considering it
I need to watch the video on it
Under $500 I'd buy it without a second thought.. it would legit replace my consoles.. I have an Xbox to mostly play Fable 2, and I have a PS3 just for Metal Gear Solid 4.. and while the deck struggles with the latter, the SteamMachine should have the horsepower to handle it..
or the orange box which comes with all valve games
At the very least I would like to buy the controller. I have a remapping software for PC, but the Xbox controller I have is a poor replacement for mouse. With the Steam controller it would make sense to use my laptop remotely (which is much desired with a baby), but using a wireless mouse goes only so far - a controller would be able to switch between being a mouse and being a fully mapped game controller.
That said, if we will eventually get a large TV in the living room, the Steam Box would be the most practical console option (we only have Nintendo Switch and it's not gonna be phased out, since I play a lot of Nintendo specific games...but I'd love to play PC games, well, not on PC!)
WRT the GabeCube, I will almost definitely be trying to get hold of one unless the price is massively off the mark. It'd be great for a homelab lol
yeah i suspect they'll sell a lot of gabecubes for non-gaming reasons
Not an Anker shitpost š
Nothing from anker will ever be a banger
I certainly don't want my powerbanks making any bangs
Minecraft dirt cube would be an obvious skin too
what about those power banks they had to recall
Fuck i have one of those speakers...
It's from 11 months ago, but checking can't hurt
Mine hasnt blown up yet š
this weeks old now but like
the windows search is such a fucking joke xD
i did this twice
dbrand plz
yooo
For those that don't know, that is what missing textures look like in Source engine games
I'm hearing $800 USD for the steam machine. This isn't confirmation, just analysts expectations
Tbh that original product is so stupid and insane, it deserves it.
- a iPhone user
I can see a Companion Cube design
There's a title already?
The Valve Secret was held but not by all, many leaks were around
and technically it shipped on tuesday, the 11th. So 3 day delivery?
The only major leaks I saw was the Controller, and that was actually leaked a while ago in Valves own code, and included the render of the design..
I'm sure there was more bit didn't get much traction due to lacking the same degree of proof..
Like, we knew a new VR headset was in the works for a while..
it's risky to leak company secrets. you risk a company not inviting people back for media events
but you have to know it might happen so if a media event was held like, 3 weeks ago, valve was ready at that point for potential leaks.
and leaks come from other sources, they can come from manufacturers, like the people doing the assembly
with phones, you have case manufacturers that are given the specs or dummy phones
Not to mention someone walking out with one of the phones from the factory in China.. again..
i watched an apple video last night where a guy was talking about items Apple will ship next year and i dont know where he gets his information
but theres often been apple leaks where people didn't know everything about the new product
There are some who just like AI will hallucinate products and time passes and they forget they ever said that
waaaa! I want Linus & Linus signature too!
New anno dropped 2 days ago so WAN is going to be 5 hours late
either that or 90 minutes long.
Well that is a pleasant surprise.. LTT was the sponsor for Zip Tie Tech's latest video..
Would be nice to see them continue to do that for stuff which isn't competing coverage, and among other former staff where it makes sense..
i just now watched it
ok from everything i've seen, the steam frame might take over the VR market
As always, depends on price.. but Valve is really in the best place to be in, they don't need hardware margines like others, since they will also get a cut of (most) game sales played on those devices..
its going to be more than the deck, but i dont think it will have a premium price. its basically a wearable steam deck
I know they said with the GabeCube that it will be priced like a PC not a Console, but lets hope they round down not up..
the thing is, the VR customers are 100% willing to drop $1000 on a product no questions asked. The Steam Frame is going to put people out of business.
console people don't have the budget, so its quite possible they will have much higher margins on the Frame than they will the new box
oh wow. if a Steam Frame user has the Steam Controller, the controller is depicted directly in your Steam Frame.
man they are building an integrated system for sure
man putting the battery at the back of the head strap is brilliant for balance
i wonder how many media people valve had to their place the week they were doing this
or if this was filmed at a con
Linus says in the first look that they were invited at Valve
i'm watching a Tested video now but i've seen no fewer than five or six different people cover this
Did the Floatplane live chat just break?
Is my floatplane chat the only one that can't see history
Oh good two messages before me I'm not crazy
I need something to listen to right now Iām so bored
reddit was getting internal server errors earlier and my bank's been down for debit purchases for 2 days, maybe some big network provider is having issues
@real rover Tell the Chinese to hack after the wanshow is over
Did the cat run over the keyboard again and ruin the chat
is your chat frozen too?
yes
Mine is always wrong. I choose "Early".
that would be 100% dead on arrival
i have a prediction for valve, after these three products drop
hope the stream on floatplane isn't broke too.
Oh i forgot valve dropped stuff excited to hear about it today
i think valve will drop an even more scaled down version, targeted as a direct competitor to roku/ fire stick
I even re-launced floatplane in Firefox, didn't help š
I just want steam Os
same
I also switched browsers twice. I even tried out Windows Explorer š
tried Chrome and Safari, both same
i also predict valve will run their streaming stick off of the snapdragon chip so they can get nice bulk discounts from qualcomm
It's giving if we all flush at the same time we can get rid of the clog
the loading users button seems to be broken too
Rip Floatplane
the boat/plane sank
youtube scheduled for 8.5 mins from now
ok i loaded the YT version
just died again
Got the notification but can't log into the app 
broke again
So they went live
yep
chats not back for me but the video is up
Linus just hates us
Chat diead again
š„
Luke does a concern ā for the bingo already lmao
our best people is on it
Reminder to play WAN Bingo > https://wanshow.bingo/
who?
Welp guess this might be my new chat for the pre show
New floatplane chat
Login button on bingo card does nothing
Yeah we're mid re-write right now
The chat is quite garbage
ah ok
link it to an irc or something
Adding in scores, leaderboards, discord integration and a moderator dashboard. For now we're on an older beta
Butter-Chicken Braces
Our head CTO is on it lmao
i would totally go for LTT on IRC
"Our people are working on it" Isn't everyone off on the fridays there now
they could but an interface for it on floatplane
tfw me posting the bingo killed chat
Chronfied broke it!
Ah so your link was malicious haha /s
OMG to show you how old I am.... when I was on IRC we called it... I Repeat Classes
What do you mean putting sudo rm -rf /* in the link breaks Floatplane? /s
hahaha
They should bring up discord chat /j
Eww he has Twitch chat up, why not the discord?
yes discord us
facts bring up the discord chat
much more tame
How? Floatplane chat is broken and twitch chat flies by so fast he'd miss it lol
Just highlight your message or donate big lmao
Not doing fb pre-show anymore I guess
New Store stuff
Twich chat sucks man
I have no desire to log on to twitch
Linus.exe has crashed and has stopped working
Not the feet cam rofl
i opened twitch and muted it because i am getting echos from different feeds
Linus is done
We know
my cheeks hurt lol
feet cam
Chat may be broken but it's making for an hilarious preshow
Twich chat going nuts
Lvl 11!!!!
ONE BELL RING PER LEVEL
Man I just love not being able to see floatplane chat if I watch on my iPad
Well its broken
Itās dead rn anyway
It's broken
so you miss nothing
That good to know lol
https://wanshow.bingo/ The WAN Show Bingo spreadsheet is live and ready to go, website is up and we're working on an entire re-write in the backgroundš https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-huteUOIdrdnFxeUordzzrTtByXimysT65ui96JZOM/
Why is this not the official chat for the podcast
idk why that sent as a reply sorry
They probably donāt remember weāre here
Natural Hype Train, no sugar added
all natural organic twitch right here
Dan "we could bring it back"
Oh wow my stream is super delayed I just heard that
Facebook?
Anything but Kick
Floatplane is boring with no chat
Time to glaze valve for 90 minutes
does twitch not get video?
and LTT store
RGBeanie
LINUX MAN
Poor Luke
valve is in washington? so its barely a hike for linus to go down there
Yeah they're over in Bellevue
3070 was $500, and matched 2080ti raw performance. Shame they gave it low VRAM so it's already struggling at 1440p
hopefully those IR illuminators are compatible with ToF, since that could enable body tracking on a whole different level from vive trackers
Linus has never heard of rechargable batteries
beyond like, laptops and phones, the only people that use rechargable AAs are the people who vape
I use them for my mouse, my xbox controller back when I used it and anything else I needed it for
Ya I used to use rechargeable batteries, but I got to the point where I need so few, I just get disposable and don't need to think about charging them, having some charged, etc..
It would last hours in the xbox controller
My Xbox controller I got the rechargeable pack..
i used to buy them for my gf who vaped
Its really the ONE thing that I could use enough to make me seriously consider the cost of buying more batteries..
RIP floatplane chat?
FLOATPLANE chat is back!
li-ion 1.5V AA rechargeable's are a good choice for voltage picky electronics
Floatplane doesn't even load for me.
wooo chat is back!
Did it just die again
did you refresh?
Oh I think chat died again lmao
Many times.
I think it died my last message i see is from CountCampsALot
oh i think it may have died again
Same lol
My complaint isn't that it has AA batteries in the controller, its just I wish (or maybe they do) have a port on it to allow you to charge batteries inside of it..
GGās everyone lol
Someone predictied it
Tried a different browser. Page loads, chat doesn't.
If they have/had a USBC port or something to allow charging without swapping, I'd like it even more..
darnit it came back to life and died again
howdy friends,
Floatplane including chat is having issues. AJ is working on a hotfix, but it's up and down.
As well if you're on the beta site, that is also having issues viewing creator pages (including the livestream page). So we'd recommend using the stable build to watch for now (not beta.floatplane.com)
sorry for the issues! we'll get them all sorted for next week
Konrad typing up a storm
FYI I get this on stable:
{
"code": "messaging/token-subscribe-failed",
"message": "Messaging: A problem occured while subscribing the user to FCM: <message?> (messaging/token-subscribe-failed)."
}
Page doesn't load at all in Chrome. Might have something to do with session rather than browser idk.
non-beta still not working
Chat was up for two frames now it's borken again lol
I was not even able to push one message
Maybe an accidental deploy to stable š
Ayy I'm blue now
shift-refresh, still no chat
is this watermark new, or am i just oblivious?
Huh? Where is that?
yeah doesnt he have a cute naame
Sir Ability Tucan
on the left side of the screen
left edge, at least at the start of the show
Next to the chain
Oooooh
what stream? its not on floatplane
Is there a way to become blue without linking accounts
She did it off stream during WANShow
A couple weeks ago, forget exactly how many..
Now the technichromatic jackets gone from the US store?
Sure just blue yourself.
No. They did not.
I feel like that guy from arrested development
Linus mentioned it and Sarah drew the image and sent it, then Dan spent like 20min playing with it on the overlay lol
Tobias.
i can barely see it
You could probably search tucan on the reddit sub and that will bring up the week it happened..
oh right isn't Toocan something? i cant remember the name they gave it
Yes Tobias!
Sir Ability Toucan
lol
Hence the hat
by summer valve will have sold so many of these new devices no matter the price
The most I would pay would be the highest end steam deck price
i don't think valve is getting any more than like $500 for those specs
I predict $699 USD
A part of the problem is that if they go to cheap, bad actors are gonna abuse that.
Remember when PS3s were bought in bulk to build a super computer?
I see it being just around 899 for the steam machine
Valve would just lose money on that
But is it going to run Windows?
i think $700 is the price point for the machine, and the frame will be maybe $150 more
If they are worried about mass sales from a company or something, just pull a SteamDeck Launch.. Require a Steam Account, with minimum hrs played, and put limits how many.. at least for a while..
They said the Deck would have perfect support for Windows, but last I checked it was unstable.
in theory. the steam deck runs windows. but this wont ship with a windows license.
Runs it poorly. I mean if it can only run a single OS reliably, how is it different from a console?
So it's a more expensive Xbox that doesn't run all Xbox games?
no it will only run games that have pc ports
its a significantly more powerful steam deck with like, a 5060 in it
Well you just convinced me that if anything it should be significantly cheaper than an Xbox.
I will be amazed if it doesn't run Windows without much issue, I mean its legit PC Hardware..
It's being advertised to console people

