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cursive tiger
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you were meant to bake until golden brown, not afterwards...

frozen agate
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Did someone say golden brown?

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Texture like sun?

plain aurora
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Mine is this one

spice cairn
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@frozen agate first of all i don't care if it is "gender free" please don't call me it... cause its not. secondly im not an American citizen however hate has a tendency to spread if you allow things like this to go unchecked... which we are clearly seeing as there been an up tick in a lot of right wing politics all over the world. this shit doesn't just effect me or you... but it effects EVERYONE. 3rd giving money to a company THAT THE OWNER of said company is an issue IS STILL GIVING MONEY TO THEM. its there fucking paycheck, and i don't give a fuck if it all goes back into development... Framework should not be promoting and giving my money to a fucking fascist, racist person PERIOD. pick a different project and different developer i don't care... they just shouldn't have given attention to DHH and Hyperlan. lastly there so much as hasn't even been a fucking mention of it... as someone who's apart of one of the targeted marginalized groups it's VERY important for allies if they really are an ally to speak up... not just went its only convenient to them but all the time. LTT and Linus specifically invested in Framework... he SHOULD know about this and if he actually cared about human rights which he has shown in the past to be all well and good... then he should've at least brought it up on the WAN show. maybe contacted Framework and asked what was going on... encourage them to do better. you, me and EVERYONE has a responsibility here to make sure our own fucking human rights aren't stripped from us. because you know they will the second we allow any sort of tolerance for hate.

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why's that so fucking hard for you people to understand

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its a slippery slope

tiny mauve
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🄱

frozen agate
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In other news heyo NoKi how are you?

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I see ya lurking

spice cairn
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lmao i already blocked you

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so block me if you want but not... your point does not still stand

frozen agate
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Anyone got any more cat gifs?

spice cairn
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the fucked up part is if this was about how women wanted to delete males from the human race because "oh we don't need them anymore we figured out how to repoduce with out them"... EVERYONE would be all up in arms about it.... but because its about fucking marginalized groups no one seems to fucking care

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im not asking for Linus to publicly come out and disown Framework here or anything.... i just want there to be a fucking conversation thats it

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i don't think thats unreasonable when he's LITERALLY invested in said company

maiden shadow
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I’m going to be honest, I don’t think this belongs in this channel. I’ve been avoiding this channel because of this and I don’t think that anything will be gained by continuing this discussion here

spice cairn
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well it was posted in here

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the og headline

spice cairn
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and it is something that they SHOULD talk about on the fucking WAN show because Linus talks about stuff having to do with Framework on the fucking WAN show

frozen agate
tiny mauve
maiden shadow
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It’s been what, 3 weeks now and this is still being discussed here? I think it’s about time to move on for now at least

spice cairn
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why?

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has fascism been stopped? have my rights come back?

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do people not hate others because of the color of there skin or because of who they are and who they love???

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NO?

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then no

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its not time to move on

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cause they haven't

knotty flint
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Right, I've been reading through this and the forums post and it's getting beyond what it's supposed to be about.

why's that so fucking hard for you people to understand

To say this and debate with everyone who disagree with you, the same people who have NO direct interaction or connection to the company Framework is, for the lack of a better word, utterly dumb.
This is causing the opposite effect of what you are saying due to the language, and is actively driving people away from the channel due to your wording and what you're saying. It doesn't help that you're being aggressive towards others as well, which is making people listen to you even less.

knotty flint
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Anyways, ignoring the colorful language and all the debates, more importantly;

Framework should not be promoting and giving my money to a fucking fascist, racist person PERIOD.
(...)
LTT and Linus specifically invested in Framework... he SHOULD know about this

In that case...bring it up on r/Framework or email Framework directly with your concerns? I still fail to see how this can become a WAN Show discussion point, let alone the fact that Linus is unable to do anything about this. He won't approach them and tell them to stop using a software they've invested hours of work to make work with their products. They've mentioned on the WAN Show they'd rather avoid drama or politics unless they are joking about it every now and then, and this doesn't fall into that.

Linus has made it a point that, on more than one occasion, all his involvement with the company is his one-time investment. I can post timestamps from more than one WAN Show where he stated specifically that he doesn't follow what they do (nor would he care if memory serves well) as he only paid them money and that's that.

This concern of yours will go unheard as you're not using the proper venue to voice them. You're attacking people instead of calming yourself and realizing that nobody here works for Framework or the other guy's company. People here lack the interest you do evidently, and you've continued despite everyone trying to move on from the topic. Your best option is to email Framework directly as this was already discussed on the LTT forums, or to bring it up on r/Framework or their Discord if they have one.

What had to be said was already said. Chasing this means you're only chasing drama instead of what you claim to be the betterment of others.

Use the proper channels and email Framework or talk to their community, not LTT's. Move on, thank you.

knotty flint
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Anyways I was opening this channel to say that I forgot to do the chapters and it's already beyond midnight lol.
Welp, it's tomorrow me's problem. Gnite.

frozen agate
spice cairn
tiny mauve
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Affected*

frozen agate
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Plain*

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NoKi, go to bed, you can't argue with them, you'll end up getting nowhere and bashing your head into the wall. Trust me, I've tried

knotty flint
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You've completely ignored the point and continue to self-insert your worries and correcting others instead. Please continue reading.

Your best option is to email Framework directly as this was already discussed on the LTT forums, or to bring it up on r/Framework or their Discord if they have one.
That's all that needs to be said. Nobody here is interesting in this topic anymore let alone NOBODY can do anything here about this. Move on and do what I've mentioned if you are upset and claim it has a huge impact, voice your concerns to Framework and its community. We are not Framework, we are humans like you and others (who are also in the same minority group as you) have voiced differing opinions.
Anything more than this is fishing drama.

full coyote
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just fucking drop the topic holy shit

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people are getting tired of this

brazen osprey
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Why can’t mods step in and do their job ?

knotty flint
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^
Anywho, bed time. r/Framework is active, their email is easy to reach out to. You decide on your next step, Acute Shark.
Gnite y'all.

maiden shadow
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Gn Noki

full coyote
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gn noki

frozen agate
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Gn NoKi

tiny mauve
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I'm annoyed at myself. I watched the VOD but forgot to trim my nails during it.

tiny mauve
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Guess I'll just have 2-weeks-long nails

frozen agate
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Why not rewatch the vod and trim them?

spice cairn
tiny mauve
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It's too fresh, it wouldn't be the same

spice cairn
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this should've been a WAN show topic

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ignoring this won't make it go away

maiden shadow
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<@&750150305383186585> I think someone needs to step in and do something about this before it escalates any further really, they’re just here for the sake of arguing it seems

trim obsidian
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It certainly hasn't made you go away

spice cairn
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no one is understanding me

tiny mauve
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Will see if I have another video podcast on my playlist, otherwise I'll go back to old WANs

frozen agate
spice cairn
frozen agate
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Framework already addressed the issue, that's what the forum post was.

full coyote
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seems kinda interesting

tiny mauve
full coyote
spice cairn
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OMFG you people aren't fucking getting it.... Linus should have addressed this as well because he has invested in Framework

tiny mauve
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Yep

spice cairn
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get the fucking mods in here i don't care... im still going to be upset that no one wants to talk about this on the fucking WAN show

full coyote
# tiny mauve Yep

its a logging library for java, its used in minecraft and alot of other java programs, and it had a RCE vuln that could be triggered by something like a chat message being sent in minecraft iirc

maiden shadow
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Interesting, it is pretty widely used yeah

frozen agate
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Crazy vuln too

tiny mauve
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Damn

spice cairn
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gods you people are fucking stupid

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fucking hate every single one of you

full coyote
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<@&750150305383186585> can this guy get a timeout or temp ban or something

trim obsidian
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Shark, I hope some day you learn that peace comes from within and not from bullying people into your viewpoint.

spice cairn
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yeah <@&750150305383186585>

maiden shadow
tiny mauve
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I've found a couple of Off Menu EPs on the backlog, but I'll add this log4j to the list

spice cairn
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THAT is bullying people

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im trying to speck out about it

odd grail
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Shark, I understand this is something you feel strongly about. However, taking it out on the community is not going to effect the type of change you seek.
You’re welcome to respectfully reach out via the proper channels, but continuing to push the topic in this channel after the community has repeatedly asked to move on is not the way.

It’s time to move on. If you’re intent on getting your message to LMG, you can do so here: https://linusmediagroup.com/contact

full coyote
# maiden shadow That is a crazy vulnerability wow

yeah its crazy, ${jndi:<lookup>} with lookup being replaced with a website hosting specific type of data would cause log4j to pull down data from that url and potentially execute code, and all it had to do was pass through log4j

maiden shadow
odd grail
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It’s time to drop it, all of you

spice cairn
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fine

odd grail
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This isn’t a ā€œget the last word inā€ situation

spice cairn
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yo fuck off with these reactions

spice cairn
full coyote
odd grail
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The log4j stuff is still ongoing? Yikes

maiden shadow
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Yeah that’s the thing, people don’t update their libraries that often. Even when there are severe vulnerabilities. Either because they don’t know about it or cause it’s not up to them

full coyote
odd grail
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Fun stuff

tiny mauve
full coyote
maiden shadow
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Yeah pretty much for both

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I think the affected versions will still be in use for a decently long time somewhere at least

full coyote
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im definitely like that when i run sudo pacman -Syu (i use arch btw) im just like "fuck, i hope this breaks nothing"

maiden shadow
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Updating libraries always feels like a coin flip, will it all still work or will something catastrophically fail

full coyote
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yep lol

maiden shadow
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Like maybe the newest version of one library relies on the previous version of another and not the newest and if you update both to newest it all goes horribly wrong

full coyote
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that fsr4 leak came along with the entire fidelityfx sdk aside from fsr and amd frame gen being essentially removed from the git repo, so the game engine im working on wouldve broke cuz im using some of that stuff

full coyote
vestal breach
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For posterity, the message Linus read during the show this week regarding Sir Ability Toucan

maiden shadow
vestal breach
frozen agate
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So they say

native kraken
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what did i walk into

native kraken
spice cairn
native kraken
spice cairn
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lets just be friends ok

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love is too strong a word

native kraken
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while ur here how far back do i need to scroll to understand whats happening

spice cairn
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don't worry about it

native kraken
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because i clicked here on accident and 1st message was what i replied to šŸ˜‚

spice cairn
native kraken
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guess ima infinite scroll then

native kraken
spice cairn
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go like 3 weeks back

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im not kidding

native kraken
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wait

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this is about the framework thing?

native kraken
plain aurora
plain aurora
late flower
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Looks like epic has a version of their privacy policy that is friendlier for kids to read

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Last Updated: November 28, 2025

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Lol

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Maybe that’s the effective date

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We’ve posted these changes so you can take a look before they go into effect on November 28th:

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Yea

spice cairn
plain aurora
random trout
plain aurora
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I know ideal world etc

real stag
late flower
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I’ve seen a few sites do side by sides

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Or section of legal text followed by summary, section of legal text followed by summary, etc

random trout
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Opting out of Epic Games binding arbitration each time they change the ToS is fun though. I always get a response telling me I "must mail it to an address" despite it being 2025.

plain aurora
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One use of AI for me is getting it to sumonise things for me. It’s not im stupid but some of them are longer than a book

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Also getting it to do YouTube videos to check if I’m being clickbaited

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Not all videos the ones where the title is sus

plain aurora
remote acorn
plain aurora
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yeah they are

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and they know it

restive rain
twin fox
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finally caught up after many months of being two to three episodes behind

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I don't think I've missed a second of WAN show since 2020

trim obsidian
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hehe i'm almost a full year behind. Last episode was the one just before Christmas or just after.

fiery shuttle
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Was listening to the latest WAN show, the segment about data centers using aero derivative gas turbine generators was really interesting as we actually use similar gas turbine generators in my field of work. I just wanted to bring up that they are probably natural gas powered, and not diesel/jet fuel. Not sure where else to put a slight correction like this, since I am unable to listen to the show live.

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Also, my employer recently announced a joint project where they are going to start using the natural gas turbine generators we use in the fracking industry for electric pumps, to actually power data centers in the Middle East, so at first I thought the show segment was going to be about that news šŸ˜‚

mellow onyx
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Windows dropping the windows kernel would be a great move in performance and stability standpoints, but if they chose to use Linux the vendors wouldn't buy licenses. Microsoft switching to Linux and creating compatability layers would be beneficial for pretty much everyone except for them

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I hope Macrohard creates an open source compatability layer or something called walls

frozen agate
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another outage at AWS on the US-EAST-1 region

frozen agate
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oh damn go Mojang

late flower
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ikr

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hoping this is a big enough wave for it to get mentioned on the show

restive rain
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page is taking forever to lead šŸ’€ is it hosted on aws-us-east-1 LUL

late flower
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microsoft is seeing issues across all their services rn

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idk if it's related to aws or not

maiden shadow
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Azure seems generally down as well not just aws

frozen agate
odd grail
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Discord real happy they’re on GCP rn

frozen agate
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Something something bubble

tiny mauve
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Hope it pops. Along with the main reason for it to have become such a massive bubble.

sharp flicker
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At this point its not a matter of if, only when.

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Even the AI bros think its a bubble

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It'll pop

round ermine
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This week's show is gonna be on Halloween

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If Linus isn't in some lame costume, we riot.

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It can't be a good/cool costume.

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It's Linus.

tiny nimbus
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Bets on whether he’ll be wearing The Jensen

karmic cargo
vestal breach
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Looks great

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In fact earlier I thought about the inclusion of the hat and how "I cannot with that" could turn into "I cannot with hat"

tender prism
maiden shadow
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That’s great

regal wadi
regal wadi
brazen osprey
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What does Michael Burry think about AI? The next big thing to short

olive bronze
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early wan... 2:30 - that's what, 5:30 eastern?

late flower
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3 hour diff sounds right, but any time anyone asks I second guess myself

olive bronze
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i didnt say now, they just posted wan show will be at 2:30 PST

late flower
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oh you're east; that makes more sense šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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I thought you were west coast asking about east cost

olive bronze
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no i am in ohio

late flower
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I am in unspecified east coast state

olive bronze
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the early schedule makes me wonder if they will carve a pumpkin

late flower
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sorry staff ppl

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won't happen again

brittle moon
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<t:1761946200:t> (<t:1761946200:R>)

ionic plover
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Bwahahahaha

azure leaf
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Early wan to catch the world series or maybe trick or treating

regal wadi
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Likely will miss wan being 5:30 EST where Trick or Treating starts at 6:00 PM~.

plain aurora
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Good news wan?

ionic plover
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Wanderful

prisma niche
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i’ve really been waiting for this wan show lol

tulip hatch
olive bronze
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more like trick or drink

frozen agate
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halloween parties are a thing and a few of the ones i've been to have had their own "trick or treat" style thing when you show up to the host's place

tulip hatch
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I see. Maybe Cory was going with their kids or siblings. SureHoney

plain aurora
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We had a light party in Auckland yesterday, adults got treats as well (hot dog, hot chocolate, pop corn and candy toss) as well as prizes

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Aftermath of photography šŸ˜‚

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Got sent home with those things above plus a bag of sausages and 4 muffins 🤣

tiny nimbus
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Oh neat, BC is still on DST so only 7 hours behind

tiny mauve
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More like passing out on candy, amirite?

ionic plover
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How I feel after too many

tiny mauve
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Hi everyone, my name is embarrassedshimmeringbelugawhale and I have a mild sugar addiction.

wanton token
plain aurora
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I do some pro bono work if there is a community event etc and if I get some kind of thank you it’s a bonus

tulip hatch
ionic plover
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Early but late, typical

plain aurora
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Is it wan if it happens on time?

brittle moon
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YouTube Is Making People B̶l̶o̶o̶d̶y Mad - WAN Show October 31, 2025

tiny nimbus
tiny mauve
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Its live bois

cursive tiger
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luke looks like plouffe lol

tiny nimbus
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lol Sammy gonna intro

round ermine
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Linus looking beter than usual

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Just copy Bo Burnham's Welcome To The Internet

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WELCOME to the Wanshow, have a look around!

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In the first two Pokemon Gens, there was a trick to the Celadon casino

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One of the slot machines were rigged

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I think the one that was rigged was tied to your trainer ID

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But if you found it, you could easily get maximum tokens to get the Porygon

abstract mist
round ermine
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You could have full on committed to the bit.

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I am certain Linus would have been down for that joke

tiny nimbus
bronze pilot
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did linus just get rick rolled

woeful crescent
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Yes

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It was great

frozen agate
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Dan caught in 4K

digital cedar
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is this where i can ask questions for the wan show ?

frozen agate
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You can ask, they will not answer...

digital cedar
abstract mist
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kek bot deleted my joke 😐

frozen agate
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Discord is entirely unmonitored for the show, best place to ask is floatplane chat or merch messages, failing that youtube chat if you're crazy, and twitch if you want to be ignored harder than the ugly kitten in the adoption shelter

digital cedar
knotty flint
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I had you in the one in September though, Barrington recommended Halloween you to be wearing Gengar lol

rustic shell
knotty flint
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On Christmas WAN Show, do the intro again I'll replace Linus with your Kitagawa cosplay :p

woeful crescent
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From a technical perspective, aircraft have been able to fly virtually autonomously for a while now.. Autopilot and landing assist can really do all the work if nothing is going wrong.. so I doubt AI is gonna replace pilots.. but it might, if done right, make flying even safer.. more layers of checks.. of course it could also cause crashes too when pilots either don't believe what the AI is telling them, or when the AI gets it wrong, as has happened many times already with Autopilot in aircraft now..

uneven goblet
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Has anyone noticed the messy UGREEN AI NAS stuff that happening currently?
For context:
The release was said to be this year (https://nas.ugreen.com/pages/ugreen-ai-nas-feature-introduction), now a few days ago there was an update email regarding the UGREEN AI NAS Timeline (attached as screenshot, received on 28.10.2025), so far so good. I dont mind the extra wait and furthermore a free UPS would be awesome. The same announcement was sent into their discord by an employee (original statement is also attached as screenshot).

Now the weird part starts: I think on the 29.10 or the 30.10 the announcement was quietly deleted from their discord. It was reposted by an Discord Admin (not employee of UGREEN on the 30.10.2025 in the evening) because he felt like the people on the discord should have the same information and it was not communicated to him why it was deleted. It was then deleted again at point in the night of the 30.10.2025 to the 31.10.2025. And today a new statement by the employee was posted (attached as screenshot as well) with the parts about the extended warranty and UPS completely removed. After being asked about why the UPS is missing from the new discord announcement it was said "We will devise alternative compensation plans.". Whatever this means.

As I said in the beginning: I dont mind the extra wait. I was really excited about the announcement and the option to receive extra warranty and a free UPS (This was not only posted on discord by an employee that was to quick but sent out by "UGREEN NAS us@nas.ugreen.com"). For me this just gives a really bad vibe and I feel if something was promised it must be delivered.

I am happy to hear the opinions of you guys!
Happy Halloween!

knotty flint
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<@&750150305383186585> Someone got phished and is spamming in other channels^ Dealt with, ty
(Also make me mod so I can have a banhammer, ty)

bronze pilot
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no make me mod

olive bronze
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$35 for a t-shirt?

round ermine
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I just for my 6800XT this month

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But this actually doesn't effect me cause I am on Linux.

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AMD does not seem to have any control on the Mesa drivers

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Bully the AI bot some more Linus

full coyote
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I believe amd does say that the mesa drivers are the ones to use on linux

round ermine
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Most distrros just use them automatically

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I'm on Fedora and just do not have to think about drivers

full coyote
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Amd did have their own drivers, but they dropped those and just endorsed mesa

olive bronze
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oh the greatest hits shirts are available in tall sizes if that interests anyone

frozen agate
# round ermine I'm on Fedora and just do not have to think about drivers

I think the only major distro which doesn't just use them is Arch when installed raw, but if you install Arch with any of the flavours on top (Endeavour, Manjaro, etc) then we go straight to auto-detecting and installing the drivers for your system on setup

Only reason arch doesn't by default is because you gotta make sure you remember to actually install them manually, which for CLI is just not important

pastel fox
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Is there any "Opt Out" of the new Upscale on youtube? But client side? Eg, have it select the highest not upscaled option

frozen agate
trim obsidian
full coyote
frozen agate
limber jewel
frozen agate
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"Almost nobody"? this seems odd given the immediate response by so many of the people who saw the clip, and how many of them are statistically not going to be from the US....

cursive tiger
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it wasn't a phrase i'd ever heard before the hard r wan show

astral brook
limber jewel
astral brook
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Oh

limber jewel
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Also Linus and Luke discussed where most of WAN show viewers come from before. It is a huge US majority, especially live. Also a lot of people get on the bandwagon if there something to cry about.

trim obsidian
cursive tiger
limber jewel
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After reading up on the words origin I finally understand were it came from and why this is particularily offensive, because it is ment to be differenciated from the original use of the n-word. The north american pronunciation is where the R is emphasized compared to the african version where there is an A at the end. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hard_r

Wiktionary
limber jewel
tender prism
cursive tiger
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or just the north american bubble

woeful crescent
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I'm terminally online and North American and I had no idea what it was before it came up on WANShow :p And even since then I've seen it come up only maybe 2 times since without direct relation to the WANShow incident..

limber jewel
tiny mauve
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TIL the "special offers" (aka ads) thing on kindles aren't a thing here, which would explain why I'd never seen any. That and the fact that I can count on one hand the times I've connected it to the internet in the nearly 8 years since I've bought it. Calibre FTW

late flower
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I use it to read at night

tiny mauve
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I awarded myself with the paperwhite in 2017 after my best reading year: 81 books.
Ironically, I never got even close to that number again, tho tbf it was absolutely an outlier, as I'd never made it past 52bpy before (or since) then.

tacit sequoia
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oh the greatest hits shirts are available in tall sizes if that interests anyone

frozen agate
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if you wont offer a subscription, at least don't show the ads.

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We need to stop encouraging companies to subsidise their products with advertising, and start actually chargin what the device costs.

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if it has ongoing costs, then charge, or give us the option to host the services ourselves

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Price in a reasonable lifetime cost into the price.

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i don't care, but stop forcing ads down my throat. It's like that "telly" brand that sells tvs which have an always on ad-bar

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Direct from Telly's website:

All For Free
So Smart,
It Pays for Itself

All TVs come with ads. It’s time you got cut in. Brands pay for the non-intrusive ad on the second Smart Screen. Those ads pay for Telly. Plain and simple.

So you get a "free" as in money TV, but in order to keep said TV, you get the luxury of always seeing a second screen consuming your power, and having a camera in your home to make sure you're watching the adverts and if you try to do anything about it to stop the adverts they come and repossess the tv because you don't actually own the device, you just give them the luxury of collecting your data and in return you get a tv which is mediocre anyway.

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Why are we encouraging this behaviour from companies?

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I pay for youtube premium because I don't want to see ads. I will keep paying for youtube premium, because I don't mind paying to use a service ad free.

I do not pay for any streaming services, because all of the stuff I want to watch bad enough to care is on youtube. I pay for floatplane to support LMG, I can't afford to pay for shipping to the EU from LTTstore so I don't buy merch more than twice a year if even that much.

I pay for email because I want to use my own domain, and for the hassle of self hosting it is simply not worth it.
I don't want to use gmail because it is free.

I self host gitea because whilst having github is nice, I don't trust that it won't just start advertising to me.

I don't see why everyone is ok with becoming the product all the time and still buying all of these devices.

My new washing machine is a "smart" machine with an app. It doesn't even connect to the wifi because it is not being paired. if it ever got paired, I'd block the device from connecting to my network.

the smart TV we have is connected to the wifi, but because I use pi-hole what tracking it does do is mostly blocked anyway. If I could pay more for a dumb tv, I sure as hell would.

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oops, accidentally ranted the whole chat away, sorry folks

timid ruin
# frozen agate I pay for youtube premium because I don't want to see ads. I will keep paying fo...

I'm actually enjoying this rant, as I agree on most accounts (I generally think like the "average" user cannot afford/set up self-hosting various web services, so I don't ever consider that as widely available alternative - if you can do it, sure, great idea, but not viable for the larger audience).

I, however, feel like the world's advertising is currently super out of hands. You can't as much as leave the house without running into ads, on the street, in the metro, on the highway. They are in your post box from supermarket catalogues to "special offers". And now, that they are digital, they are in your home everywhere.

frozen agate
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A raspberry pi is perfectly good for hosting a surprising amount of things these days, and if you cut off paying so damn much for all your streaming subscriptions you could afford a top spec on in realistically three months ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

timid ruin
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The reason I use adblock isn't because I don't want websites to be able to make money on the side. I'm just sick of the intrusiveness, and often the inappropriateness of the ads nowadays.

timid ruin
frozen agate
timid ruin
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Again, I perfectly agree with that statement

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I'm also wondering whether getting people tech-savvy would just trigger companies to have even less avoidable ways to shove ads down our throats

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So it's two completely valid issue

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But they are for the sake of your original rant, unrelated

frozen agate
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perhaps, but at this point with the level of tech savvy that I seem to be seeing from those in charge of these companies, I highly doubt it could possibly be worse.

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(I will absolutely regret uttering this future into existence)

timid ruin
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I should probably screenshot this now and paste it back in 5-10 years if we're still both around this channel lol

frozen agate
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But, for the sake of argument, I am writing my own software right now, it is designed specifically with security, and as little tracking as is possible whilst still giving me the tools I need to actually debug errors and catch issues.

Basically every single competitor in the space is priced around the same price as what I am estimating that my company is going to be able to charge for the same product.

My company will naturally have a lower revenue because I have personally committed to never selling user data except for the purposes of selling the company outright. Which itself is an option I hope I never feel like I am in a position where I have to take.

If my business plan works, then realistically speaking there is zero reason why my company could not be competetive with the others in the space, and we get to market on our morality and ethics.

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I am fully building my business around trying to be sustainable, and efficient, whilst being a good role model for the change I want to see in the world

crude sandal
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This company is insane

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And anyone that gets one of those TVs is insane

frozen agate
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yes, I am highly aware

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that's why they're such a good example for my rant, haha (I know you were ranting with me, sorry it wasn't clear)

crude sandal
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And I'm ranting with you

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Exact same situation with YouTube and floatplane aswell lol
Netflix and Disney are family accounts but anything else is on Plex because it's not Disney or not on Netflix because Netflix are fucking useless at actually having things

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Like here currently they have back to the future.... 1

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Want to watch 2 and 3? Well fuck you

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And I also pay for gsuit

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Smart applicants with only wifi annoy me greatly. Give me ethernet.

frozen agate
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I pay for spotify too because I simply cannot get comfortable with the youtube interface and frankly the experience on YTM is subpar since they wont split the damn watch histories out into two seperate things.

I don't want music recommendations in the youtube app, I want them in the youtube music app, google, you're sitting on so much money if you win this war, but you keep fucking it up. Basic user experience, so awful to use with YTM :/

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I would drop spotify in a heartbeat if youtube music fixed some of the fundamental flaws it has

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I do not want to be paying the same price for youtube premium and spotify (which is basically what they've achieved here in the UK now thanks to the most recent price rises)

With all due respect. how the hell, can Google afford to run YouTube with the current premium price if Spotify can't afford to run their own basic services with the same amount of money.

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(and yes I know, AI summary, blegh)

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Screenshots from both websites to prove my point:

crude sandal
frozen agate
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And yes, I know I could just stream music from my own personal library, but at the same time, I am not in the financial position where I could reasonably afford to purchase all of the >3000 tracks in my spotify library

frozen agate
crude sandal
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I gave up trying to run my music library in Plex... Can't even buy half of the stuff

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I didn't but any of it to be clear pirateLinus

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But even if I wanted to, half of it wasn't available

frozen agate
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oh, I am absolutely not above the seven seas myself, but for the sake of the argument, it is simply not viable financially these days, media is so expensive

crude sandal
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The stuff I couldn't torrent had to be ripped from youtube

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I recently bought a copy of dire strait's on every street for mum since her car has a cd player and it was $15nzd

frozen agate
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considering the fact that that's NZ, that is surprisingly cheap compared to what I expected, but still probably quite expensive. I have no context for the strength of NZD vs GBP

crude sandal
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Also got the new Mumford and sons for her and it was $27

crude sandal
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economy is in the shitter

frozen agate
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gotcha, so that's about £7/CD for a Dire Strait's CD

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which, again, not awful

crude sandal
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fine for a single cd

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But if your playlist is very varied and you want to buy every album on it at once... Bankruptcy time KEKW

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If you can even get everything

frozen agate
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hehe... you're telling me

according to my last.fm history I've scrobbbled tracks from no less than 6,721 individual albums

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if I wanted to buy the CD for every single one of those albums at once it would cost me £47,047 presuming that I could find all of them, and I paid the same amount (£7) per album

crude sandal
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Can you check something on Spotify for me?

frozen agate
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sure

crude sandal
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Is Mumford and sons's wilder mind album on there?

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It disappeared from YouTube and only the singles from it are available

frozen agate
crude sandal
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Hmm

frozen agate
crude sandal
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Wait can you check if it's on YouTube? Might be a weird region thing

frozen agate
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seems like a region thing

crude sandal
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Yeep everything except the singles on that list aren't available

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Weird

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YouTube really should name and shame instead of being vague about why it's not available

frozen agate
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also, side note, I know this is probably not topic worthy, but can we please give some credit to android for this feature:
https://medium.com/justeattakeaway-tech/live-updates-and-progress-notifications-for-android-16-at-jet-b0c87eab17b4

I now need to pin this article somewhere that I can keep safe because I will no doubt end up using this API in my app when I finally make it lol

Medium

Android 16 introduced a new notification template specifically designed to help users seamlessly track user-initiated start-to-end…

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(image for people who cannot or do not want to read the article)

timid ruin
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And we decided to just continue the Hungarian pricing instead of switching over to the Danish pricing

crude sandal
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I started paying for a YouTube premium family plan just so I didn't have to hear the ads when dad was watching stuff on the tv

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For a couple years my account identified as American so I could be on a friend's plan KEKW

timid ruin
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Yeah, with Spotify, it only changes region if your bank is from the same region.

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If I ever close that account, I will have to transfer the Spotify (and Netflix) subscription(s).

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But until then, my Duo is only €7,95 or Ā£6,99 as opposed to the UK's Ā£12.99

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I find that this price gap is insane

woeful crescent
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late flower
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I can't change playback sspeed

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only option in the menu is "normal", the custom slider doesn't change, holding space shows "x2" but video continues at x1, and shift + > doesn't do anything

frozen agate
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works for me

late flower
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must just be a skill issue local issue

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thanks for checking

frozen agate
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definitely seems like a skill local issue

tiny mauve
woeful crescent
mellow onyx
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Linux has improved significantly since the previous linux challenge, are there any plans on this right now?

woeful crescent
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Literally comes up almost every WANShow..

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Linus is waiting/hoping for a formal SteamOS release to install on anything.. for better or worse thats the distro he seems set on using..

trim obsidian
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A friend of mine insists it will never happen because Steam won't want to support all the possible hardware combinations and such.

woeful crescent
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Fairly sure Valve said releasing it for anyone was the plan.. but wouldn't surprise me if they give a list of generally supported hardware and say "beyond this point, here be dragons.."

timid ruin
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"...or bitcoin farms."

(just connecting the previous topics rooderp )

late flower
cursive tiger
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and i mean sure, you're meant to pay your tv license but they can't do anything about it if you don't, and it's also just a very reasonable price to pay considering what you get in return anyway

tiny nimbus
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The most thought provoking article I have read this week:

A Norwegian bus company wants to know if their buses could be abused by China in the case of war.

So they drive two buses deep into a limestone mine to isolate them from the internet and forensically investigate how they work.

In the mine, investigators discover a Chinese kill switch which could destroy all Chinese buses.

In Denmark, that is 57 percent of the bus fleet.

Source (Danish):

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forest cargo
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I'd love to see this discussed on wan show. It's an ad blocker built on ublock origin that gives advertisers false click-thrus so they are charged by the host of the website, but they never actually make an impression on the users. It's a great way to support creators without tolerating the cesspool of advertising.
https://adnauseam.io/

A browser extension that clicks on every blocked ad to fight advertising surveillance.

late flower
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so that's fraud?

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isn't that equivalent of websites faking clicks?

tiny mauve
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NGL, I don't mind that. Wasting ad money sounds like a great idea

restive rain
cursive tiger
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i like the way the url cuts off

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like yeah guys it's a huge problem, germany figured out the rat

late flower
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This video is by two different channels? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNgD1kg3U14 Is this new or am I stupid.

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woeful crescent
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Its not new, but how they show it on YT was recently updated

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I first saw it a week or two ago when The Fat Electrician did a video that had another creator credited too..

trim obsidian
cursive tiger
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i've been seeing it for a good month or two

tiny nimbus
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I started seeing it with the #TeamWater campaign where you had ā€œMrBeast and Mark Roberā€ and vice versa, couldn’t properly add those videos to a playlist for a while

trim obsidian
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Maybe it is a staggered roll out for either creators or users. I only within the last couple weeks got the new ugly UI - but I really like that I can pop out the playlist in fullscreen mode. Very much dislike scrolling down is a thing in fullscreen again though.

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Oh and the 3 recommends instead of 9 - it's just a lot of wasted space and potential.

brazen osprey
woeful crescent
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I saw both creators names shown before I got the new UI.. so they weren’t tied together..

jolly oar
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wait what were those images that just vanished

tiny nimbus
tiny nimbus
cursive tiger
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imagine it's just registered to some po box in the middle of nowhere

restive rain
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not me placing a $100+ order a few days ago only for there to be a special spend >100 have a chance to win something promo now šŸ’€

plain aurora
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Murphys law

novel cedar
cursive tiger
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idk that this is really tech related

tiny nimbus
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It really is WAN Show related because Linus keeps gushing over Lina Khan on the show every chance he gets

woeful crescent
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Ya I give it a pass, and I'll be shocked if Linus doesn't mention it in at least passing on Friday..

slim tundra
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OMG. Got a response from Linus the man himself on x/Twitter. Made my day!

random trout
random trout
tacit sequoia
tiny nimbus
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I like how the reply in question would probably get someone Warshipped

frozen agate
tiny nimbus
spice cairn
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something something Epstein island

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what is with billionaires and doing weird things with kids

round ermine
spice cairn
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ngtl i used to watch every WAN show... but ever since a few weeks ago.... just haven't felt like it anymore

real rover
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I hate living in Sask and realzing everywhere else had DST so all my shows are going to be even later

magic matrix
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I used to watch every WAN show but the I took an arrow to the knee

real rover
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I just like them because it's something to look forward to on a friday night living in the middle of nowhere. I don't really care about the tech space nearly as much as I did 10 years ago

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Mostly because 10 years ago I lived with my mom and now I have a whole house worth of bills and can't afford tech šŸ˜›

tiny mauve
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I'd've bought my own city by the second B

restive rain
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you win some, you loose some, oh well

real rover
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They need to start this shit soon, I just realized I was vibing to winnie the pooh jazz in the youtube tab.

sonic gyro
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end of streak?

brazen osprey
real rover
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lol not even close

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They've been a fuck load later than this

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It's only 5:22pm in vancouver

gloomy imp
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Lmao I’ve never caught a wan show and wanted to buy something on the same day I gotta come up with a good question for my merch message

real rover
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Tell them they lost the game

sonic gyro
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Wan Show streak.

real rover
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Like I said, it's only 5:30 in vancouver. chill lol

woeful crescent
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It was early last week.. they gotta makeup for that this week..

gloomy imp
oblique ruin
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guys I need the WAN show I am 2 beers in and it hasn't started yet. this isn't going to end well 'hic

real rover
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you've got 10 more in ya

oblique ruin
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path of exile is a good way to pass the time

hardy ether
oblique ruin
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guys can you be my wan show bell icon? i dont want notifications for everything lol

split geyser
woeful crescent
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Excuses

split geyser
woeful crescent
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Because they are smart and don't monitor twitch chat..

brittle moon
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always funny once every few weeks they get to be more than an hour late and a bunch of people freak out like its not normal

real rover
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most people don't give a fuck about streamer drama and talking on it is a waste of time

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most streamers are narcissist pieces of shit

woeful crescent
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Streamer Drama can be interesting, but I don't get why people need to take one piece of drama and demand answers from everyone else on the platform..

stray coral
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I feel yukki. I actually logged into twitch to get the discord because of how late the show is.

real rover
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it's only an hour and a half late the fuck yall talking about

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for long stretches of time it's been over 2 hours late consistently

woeful crescent
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Ya 4hrs is where I'd get worried..

brittle moon
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we're barely past the upper end of the standard deviation of lateness lol. this happens every few weeks. idk why people keep freaking out

stray coral
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Then I am going out for diner. Ya'll can start the show without me then.

potent finch
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It’s official, the skull from the last WAN show has possessed Luke and Linus

real rover
stray coral
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Usually no... .but I live where they live hahaha

real rover
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Congrats?

stray coral
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I'll be writing a stern letter and leaving it on the door for sure

real rover
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A lot of people live in the Vancouver area

honest spire
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I mean there is a floatplane series called "why is wan late", this is normal lol

gloomy imp
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I’m curious what the excuse is today tho lmao

hardy ether
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last week they were stupid early

real rover
hardy ether
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screwed my night

stray coral
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Ya I'm used to it... Basically needed to know if anyone knew if I had time. I'll watch the Toobz video later. Have fun waiting nerds!

junior ridge
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weird flex - it's 4 in the morning for me

woeful crescent
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I generally don't care, but I do wish if they knew ahead of time that a show is gonna be early (or late, but most of the late ones are shoots running long and such), that they would let us know early.. Like if they knew the Halloween show was gonna be early a week early, tell us, not a couple of hrs..

real rover
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That would be nice but I think it's so chaotic there a lot of the time that all they'd be able to say is "it'll be late" which most already expect

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like they can't say it'll be an hour late because then another 40 minute crisis might happen

woeful crescent
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Ya as I said I really don't expect it for late shows, early ones would be nice..

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Theres been several times they clearly knew the show was gonna be early but either didn't say anything and just started early, or announced it was gonna be early like an hr before.. :/

real rover
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I think the why is wan late series is their attempt at softening the blow

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for sure the early ones have caught me off guard, I just assumed I missed something

honest spire
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I'm suprised they do so much on Friday's because doesn't LMG have Friday off or shortened work days? I remember something about it on floatplane

woeful crescent
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Nope.. at least not generally..

real rover
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Maybe some of LMG

woeful crescent
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Friday is generally one of the bit shoot days, its normally when they do the Extreme Tech Upgrades for one..

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Linus takes Monday off.. well.. off/works from home..

real rover
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I've worked in offices where leaving an hour early on fridays was normal, and others where it was crunch time within the same companies

oblique ruin
honest spire
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Ah "... a four week initative..." so they might not do it still, but IDK

glossy apex
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I wonder when it'll start

oblique ruin
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im not getting laid tonight until wan show is over so lets get the show on the road guys

warm summit
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LMG stands for Liquid Metal Gaming

teal terrace
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Is Wan Show starting soon?

hardy ether
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lol, no one knows

oblique ruin
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linus doesn't know either

long scarab
oblique ruin
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The WAN show is currently late by 2h 9m 28s

hardy ether
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twitch has topic

brittle moon
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The Louvre Password Was ā€˜Louvre’ - WAN Show November 7, 2025

long scarab
oblique ruin
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Oh Schnap

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getting my lub3 out

woeful crescent
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""might""

long scarab
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<t:1762570800:R>

oblique ruin
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guys path of exile global chat doesn't care the wan show starts in 17 minutes. they are dropping F bombs at me

hardy ether
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live

glossy apex
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And we're live

real rover
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if you say so

oblique ruin
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lies

hardy ether
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old topic on floatplane

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"live"

long scarab
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f

glossy apex
woeful crescent
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That was quick...

real rover
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I closed all my other stuff

long scarab
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it was dns

oblique ruin
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w00T

lilac lintel
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What’s up chat, happy fridays

oblique ruin
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did linus just pronounce the louvre as loov ra

woeful crescent
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Yep.. probably doesn't remember hearing the word before..

real rover
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I highly doubt that he speaks fluent french

woeful crescent
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He understands it I do believe, but its not something hes used regularly since he was in his teens..

real rover
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probably just to specify that it was spelled out like it's spelled in french since many viewers don't know how it's spelled. The vast majority of people in NA have heard of the Louvre and know how it's pronounced lol

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That's like a basic trivial pursuit question from the 80s

woeful crescent
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There has been lots of times I've heard a name/word but when I see it written down it doesn't connect, at least not fast enough lol

real rover
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I promise you linus knows it's "luve"

formal monolith
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missed it how are they getting a house thought he didn't want to take a house up?

woeful crescent
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Hes been talked into it, cause doing it performs to well.. and its not pratical to do it at his house anymore because we get a 40min video, but it ends up with his house being a mess for weeks..

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Also hes not gonna take some affordable housing or something and jack up prices and rent it out or something..

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But I forget what he was looking for, either farther out or something.. it was a few weeks ago they talked about it..

lilac lintel
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Has Linus considered odoo yet lol

plain aurora
woeful crescent
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Thought the power went out for a second there for them lol..

tiny mauve
restive rain
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wanted to cop some of the throwback designs

tiny mauve
potent finch
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that's nuts, can you really not have electronics in a checked bag in Canada?

maiden shadow
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You can, did you not finish listening to that segment? The only thing you can't have is batteries in checked luggage

potent finch
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that's kinda wild, here in the states there's a whole ass website breaking down what you can and cannot take

timid ruin
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Batteries are generally not allowed in checked luggage, since the pressure and temperature control in the luggage area isn't really as good/necessary, which can cause batteries to swell up and leak out. Battery acid is fairly corrosive and could potentially cause damage to the airplane. So yeah, not a Canada specific thing. I'm pretty sure it's an IATA requirement, and most major airlines are operating under IATA regulations.

maiden shadow
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Yeah pretty sure most if not all countries/airlines ban batteries in checked luggage

plain aurora
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Tbh that guy was on a power trip. I’ve had gear in my checked and any battery’s in my carry on.

tiny nimbus
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  • ā€œI would like to speak with your supervisorā€
  • ā€œI am the supervisorā€

My next question might have been ā€œwell you must report to someone and I’d like to talk to them because your opinion is bullshit and I’d like a second opinionā€

lilac lintel
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Idk if anyone shares this fear with me, but I fear if I put my electric toothbrush in my checked luggage, it’s gonna get confiscated

plain aurora
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I had my whole camera and we are talking body/lenses in my checked, with the batteries in my carryon with their protection on

woeful crescent
crude sandal
tiny mauve
limber jewel
timid ruin
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Smaller lithium batteries are generally fine tbh. They mostly look for either normal single-use AA/AAA batteries and anything like smartphone batteries and above.

brazen osprey
late flower
versed grail
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I'm pretty sure Linus Tech Tips is not his legal name. I think I'd recall a dBrand segment if that were the case.

spice cairn
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unless thats what THEY wants us to think

plain aurora
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tbh... i wouldn't put it past them to pay for a name change

late flower
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I just thought it would've been a corporate card

brittle moon
late flower
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oh

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I'm going insane

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šŸ’€

brittle moon
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different light angle (there arent numbers that are only visible at an angle)

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i assume its one of those cards where the actual numbers are just printed on the back

plain aurora
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It’s actually really common mines like that

brittle moon
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i know my bank does it but i dont look at other peoples cards often so idk šŸ˜„

plain aurora
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I like it, the old style made it hard to read, this one is dead easy

crude sandal
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Yeah the new visas don't have the numbers stamped into them

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Everything is on the back

tiny nimbus
torpid grail
frozen agate
brazen osprey
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this may be worth discussing on the show since they cover nvidia anyway https://finance.yahoo.com/news/softbank-unloads-nvidia-stake-5-065809827.html

Yahoo Finance

Founder Masayoshi Son has been unwinding positions to pay for a plethora of AI projects, from Stargate data centers with OpenAI and Oracle Corp. to robot manufacturing sites in the US. The Nvidia exit coincides with a growing debate about whether spending by big tech firms like Meta Platforms Inc. and Alphabet Inc. — expected to surpass $1 tr...

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start of the bubble?

cursive tiger
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i think the bubble started long ago

trim obsidian
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Right now they're desperately trying to make sure that they can all survive by owning pieces of eachother. I am not sure it will work.

cursive tiger
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no that'll just mean if one goes then the whole thing will tumble down even faster

crude sandal
crude sandal
trim obsidian
brazen osprey
frozen agate
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reading the topic and it's kinda like this:

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(I agree)

crude sandal
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Canary in the coalmine

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A bank wouldn't get rid of a supposedly good investment for no reason

frozen agate
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You are forgetting that this is SoftBank

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not exactly renowned for their impressive track record of good financial choices

frozen agate
woeful crescent
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I’ll take one of each plz

frozen agate
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I am going to be so in debt by the end of 2026

frozen agate
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Under the hood, you get not one but two AMD chips along with 16GB of DDR5 RAM: The CPU is a six-core AMD Zen 4 chip with up to 30 watts of headroom and 4.8GHz boost, while the graphics are a semi-custom discrete AMD RDNA 3 ā€œNavi 33ā€ GPU, with 28 compute units, up to 130-watt TDP, and 8GB of GDDR6 memory. These are unusual components for a gaming PC, but they might work well together!

While the former sounds a lot like the entry-level AMD Ryzen 5 8540U laptop chip, right down to its two big cores and four small ones, there’s no direct equivalent to that GPU: the closest are AMD’s Radeon RX 7700 and 7600 mobile parts, which have almost exclusively appeared in external graphics cards (with two notable exceptions) and offer similar or better theoretical performance to the PS5 Pro’s graphics.

While I didn’t have time for robust testing at Valve’s headquarters, my first impressions were promising. On a 4K TV, the demanding Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark averaged a smooth 65fps at medium settings with basic ray tracing turned on, while being upscaled to 4K from a native 1080p output using AMD’s FSR 3.0. The benchmark never dipped below 58 frames per second, and when I took the controls for a spin in one of the more demanding regions of the game, the lowest I saw was 55fps in a quick firefight. It looked nice and crisp from about 9 feet away.

The prototype didn’t do nearly as well at native 4K — just 24fps average — but consoles generally don’t play the most demanding games at native 4K, either. I also benched with the same 720p settings I use to test every handheld and saw a solid 131fps, though the low resolution looked pretty ugly on a 4K TV!
-# Source: The Verge

cursive tiger
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it's 15x15x15 cm which means it's not using a standard itx motherboard which i don't love

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but otherwise it does seem quite nice

tiny mauve
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It displeases me that they made a cube and didn't call it a cube. Like, what's the point of making it a cube then?

woeful crescent
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Its a Linux Console.. I'm fine with it not being just a PC..

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Especially since they are making the OS available for you to build a PC and run it.. so if you want upgrade paths, thats an option..

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If they are smart though they can sell it at a low(ish) price, makeup for it on their game sales like console co's do..

odd grail
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Saw someone calling it the GabeCube

woeful crescent
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If I get one, I'll need one after-market part.. a Borg Cube case mod.

frozen agate
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I am not against this community name

brittle moon
woeful crescent
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I've never done VR, so the Frame, maybe, if the price is right.. but I've been considering building a system for my TV for a while now, especially since SteamOS..

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So if the price is right it'll be very tempting..

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And if the price is right, AND Konami finally gives us a PC port of Metal Gear Solid 4, I'll have no reason to have a console anymore šŸ˜„

brittle moon
woeful crescent
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4/500 would probably be a buy from me..

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Like, a preorder buy lol

brittle moon
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im still caught up in the excitement of the announcement, so idk for sure. but if the frame released or opened preorders today for <$1200 i almost certainly would have immedietly bought it lol (i've actually been saving some money the past year or so just in case)

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but im glad they didnt, becuase that means i can sit on it some more and decide if i actually want/need it, and that i dont get caught up in the excitement lol

woeful crescent
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Ya I'd be hard pressed to justify spending $1k+ on VR.. not without solid experience, which is of course what I lack with it :p

brittle moon
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ive been doing vr since quest 2. got the psvr2 when they released pc support, but the bluetooth issues with it are so annoying

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i do beat saber for exercise, and i like 3d movies. plus occasionally some vrchat with friends

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i'd also want to hear how good the streaming compression actually is with the frame. A big reason i got the psvr2 was because its wired

woeful crescent
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Only VR I ever did was like an hour playing Eve Valkyrie.. Which was fun but also painful with first gen vr and needing glasses lol

brittle moon
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ah yeah ive got perscription inserts for my psvr2. in the ltt video linus said valve is working on first-party perscription inserts, but it sounded like those wont be available at launch

wanton token
frozen agate
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You see, my issue with VR: I refuse to buy something which I know I will immediately want to upgrade if I like the experience, but I also don't want to drop lots of money on finding out if I like the experience....

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(and before it gets suggested, the nearest location with any VR headsets where I could reasonably try it out is a three hour train ride from me and that alone would make it cheaper to actually just buy a headset and have it shipped to my house)

flat carbon
mossy socket
patent dagger
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If you guys are still looking for the refrigerant for the super cooler machine I would be able to get it for you

late flower
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:o

limber jewel
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Well the russian robot can fall like Bezos already 🤣

frozen agate
woeful crescent
fervent wasp
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Cannot wait for DBrand to start doing skins for the Steam Box... especially if they are Hellraiser related. You opened the box, linux came

frozen agate
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another good fit would be Destiny

brittle moon
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borg cube skin would be cool

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(the classic design, not whatever tf the picard s1 design was)

brazen osprey
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Steam Box needs a Se7en skin

frozen agate
wanton token
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i kinda wish steam machine can reach msrp of 500-600 cad

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so i can just have one as a linux machine that i can also bring around for some gaming

trim obsidian
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Would say too much but 500 cad is like 300 usd isn't it? IMO max price for anything with 16gb/8gb is $399. It really really needed to be 12gb 192-bit on the GPU or even better 16gb 256-bit. And then they can offer a 16gb/512gb and 32gb/2tb option but then also have a freakin barebones kit!

wanton token
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i personally think it would sell pretty well at around 350 to 400 usd price range (for base model) but im not that hopeful for the price point since even base lcd steamdeck is 500 cad, and i feel like it would probably hit a simillar price point as base deck oled

woeful crescent
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Ya, I'd love >$500, but I don't actually believe it will be.

plain aurora
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If it was under 500, would seriously be considering it

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I need to watch the video on it

woeful crescent
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Under $500 I'd buy it without a second thought.. it would legit replace my consoles.. I have an Xbox to mostly play Fable 2, and I have a PS3 just for Metal Gear Solid 4.. and while the deck struggles with the latter, the SteamMachine should have the horsepower to handle it..

cursive tiger
timid ruin
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At the very least I would like to buy the controller. I have a remapping software for PC, but the Xbox controller I have is a poor replacement for mouse. With the Steam controller it would make sense to use my laptop remotely (which is much desired with a baby), but using a wireless mouse goes only so far - a controller would be able to switch between being a mouse and being a fully mapped game controller.

That said, if we will eventually get a large TV in the living room, the Steam Box would be the most practical console option (we only have Nintendo Switch and it's not gonna be phased out, since I play a lot of Nintendo specific games...but I'd love to play PC games, well, not on PC!)

frozen agate
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WRT the GabeCube, I will almost definitely be trying to get hold of one unless the price is massively off the mark. It'd be great for a homelab lol

cursive tiger
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yeah i suspect they'll sell a lot of gabecubes for non-gaming reasons

tiny nimbus
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Not an Anker shitpost 😭

odd grail
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They've been doing a fair amount of that lately

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But this one is a banger

crude sandal
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Nothing from anker will ever be a banger

odd grail
#

I certainly don't want my powerbanks making any bangs

limber jewel
cursive tiger
limber jewel
frozen agate
limber jewel
spice cairn
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this weeks old now but like

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the windows search is such a fucking joke xD

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i did this twice

round ermine
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dbrand plz

spice cairn
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yooo

round ermine
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For those that don't know, that is what missing textures look like in Source engine games

spice cairn
tender prism
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I'm hearing $800 USD for the steam machine. This isn't confirmation, just analysts expectations

plain aurora
ionic plover
spice pollen
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There's a title already?

olive bronze
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my new wan hoodie arrived

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thats got to be a record.... one week?

ionic plover
#

The Valve Secret was held but not by all, many leaks were around

olive bronze
#

and technically it shipped on tuesday, the 11th. So 3 day delivery?

woeful crescent
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The only major leaks I saw was the Controller, and that was actually leaked a while ago in Valves own code, and included the render of the design..

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I'm sure there was more bit didn't get much traction due to lacking the same degree of proof..

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Like, we knew a new VR headset was in the works for a while..

olive bronze
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it's risky to leak company secrets. you risk a company not inviting people back for media events

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but you have to know it might happen so if a media event was held like, 3 weeks ago, valve was ready at that point for potential leaks.

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and leaks come from other sources, they can come from manufacturers, like the people doing the assembly

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with phones, you have case manufacturers that are given the specs or dummy phones

woeful crescent
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Not to mention someone walking out with one of the phones from the factory in China.. again..

olive bronze
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i watched an apple video last night where a guy was talking about items Apple will ship next year and i dont know where he gets his information

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but theres often been apple leaks where people didn't know everything about the new product

ionic plover
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There are some who just like AI will hallucinate products and time passes and they forget they ever said that

olive bronze
#

waaaa! I want Linus & Linus signature too!

real rover
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New anno dropped 2 days ago so WAN is going to be 5 hours late

olive bronze
woeful crescent
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Well that is a pleasant surprise.. LTT was the sponsor for Zip Tie Tech's latest video..

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Would be nice to see them continue to do that for stuff which isn't competing coverage, and among other former staff where it makes sense..

olive bronze
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i just now watched it

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ok from everything i've seen, the steam frame might take over the VR market

woeful crescent
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As always, depends on price.. but Valve is really in the best place to be in, they don't need hardware margines like others, since they will also get a cut of (most) game sales played on those devices..

olive bronze
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its going to be more than the deck, but i dont think it will have a premium price. its basically a wearable steam deck

woeful crescent
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I know they said with the GabeCube that it will be priced like a PC not a Console, but lets hope they round down not up..

olive bronze
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the thing is, the VR customers are 100% willing to drop $1000 on a product no questions asked. The Steam Frame is going to put people out of business.

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console people don't have the budget, so its quite possible they will have much higher margins on the Frame than they will the new box

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oh wow. if a Steam Frame user has the Steam Controller, the controller is depicted directly in your Steam Frame.

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man they are building an integrated system for sure

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man putting the battery at the back of the head strap is brilliant for balance

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i wonder how many media people valve had to their place the week they were doing this

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or if this was filmed at a con

ionic plover
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Linus says in the first look that they were invited at Valve

olive bronze
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i'm watching a Tested video now but i've seen no fewer than five or six different people cover this

ionic plover
vestal breach
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Did the Floatplane live chat just break?

hoary fjord
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Floatplane chat died for me

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I feel lost

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and sad

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haha

bronze adder
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Is my floatplane chat the only one that can't see history

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Oh good two messages before me I'm not crazy

cerulean iron
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I need something to listen to right now I’m so bored

real rover
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reddit was getting internal server errors earlier and my bank's been down for debit purchases for 2 days, maybe some big network provider is having issues

round ermine
hoary fjord
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@real rover Tell the Chinese to hack after the wanshow is over

real rover
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Damn my whenplane vote is going to be wrong in 15 mins

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it's all I have to live for

ionic plover
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Did the cat run over the keyboard again and ruin the chat

olive bronze
#

is your chat frozen too?

ionic plover
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yes

hoary fjord
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Mine is always wrong. I choose "Early".

real rover
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Oooh starting soon hopefully

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thumbnail is made

cursive tiger
olive bronze
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i have a prediction for valve, after these three products drop

hoary fjord
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hope the stream on floatplane isn't broke too.

cerulean iron
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Oh i forgot valve dropped stuff excited to hear about it today

olive bronze
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i think valve will drop an even more scaled down version, targeted as a direct competitor to roku/ fire stick

hoary fjord
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I even re-launced floatplane in Firefox, didn't help šŸ™‚

cerulean iron
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I just want steam Os

wet dock
bronze adder
ionic plover
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tried Chrome and Safari, both same

olive bronze
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i also predict valve will run their streaming stick off of the snapdragon chip so they can get nice bulk discounts from qualcomm

hoary fjord
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IE5?

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maybe if we refresh all that the same time it will come back

bronze adder
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It's giving if we all flush at the same time we can get rid of the clog

olive bronze
#

the loading users button seems to be broken too

bronze adder
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Rip Floatplane

hoary fjord
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the boat/plane sank

real rover
#

youtube scheduled for 8.5 mins from now

olive bronze
#

ok i loaded the YT version

ionic plover
#

Chat is back

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Live

stark quiver
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just died again

crude sandal
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Got the notification but can't log into the app KEKW

hoary fjord
#

broke again

bronze adder
#

So they went live

ionic plover
#

yep

bronze adder
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and chat doesnt owkr

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work

olive bronze
#

chats not back for me but the video is up

bronze adder
#

Linus just hates us

ionic plover
#

Chat diead again

bronze adder
#

😄

stark quiver
#

Luke does a concern āœ… for the bingo already lmao

ionic plover
#

our best people is on it

stark quiver
olive bronze
#

who?

hoary fjord
#

It's one person that identies as a them

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identifes

bronze adder
#

Welp guess this might be my new chat for the pre show

gentle bear
#

New floatplane chat

real rover
#

Login button on bingo card does nothing

stark quiver
hoary fjord
#

The chat is quite garbage

real rover
#

ah ok

hoary fjord
#

link it to an irc or something

stark quiver
# real rover ah ok

Adding in scores, leaderboards, discord integration and a moderator dashboard. For now we're on an older beta

ionic plover
#

Butter-Chicken Braces

bronze adder
#

Our head CTO is on it lmao

olive bronze
#

i would totally go for LTT on IRC

bronze adder
#

"Our people are working on it" Isn't everyone off on the fridays there now

hoary fjord
#

they could but an interface for it on floatplane

stark quiver
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tfw me posting the bingo killed chat

hoary fjord
#

Chronfied broke it!

bronze adder
olive bronze
#

OMG to show you how old I am.... when I was on IRC we called it... I Repeat Classes

ionic plover
#

no chat today

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youtube chat is on

stark quiver
bronze adder
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hahaha

brittle moon
#

They should bring up discord chat /j

stark quiver
#

Eww he has Twitch chat up, why not the discord?

olive bronze
#

yes discord us

bronze adder
#

much more tame

stark quiver
bronze adder
real rover
#

Not doing fb pre-show anymore I guess

ionic plover
#

New Store stuff

gentle bear
hoary fjord
#

Twich chat sucks man

bronze adder
#

I have no desire to log on to twitch

woeful crescent
#

Linus.exe has crashed and has stopped working

bronze adder
#

Not the feet cam rofl

olive bronze
#

i opened twitch and muted it because i am getting echos from different feeds

gentle bear
#

Linus is done

ionic plover
#

We know

graceful swan
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my cheeks hurt lol

native relic
#

feet cam

vestal breach
#

Chat may be broken but it's making for an hilarious preshow

hoary fjord
#

Twich chat going nuts

round ermine
#

I've never heard Dan this happy before

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He is CACKLING

gentle bear
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Lvl 11!!!!

bronze adder
#

Luke almost in tears

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then screaming hype train

round ermine
#

ONE BELL RING PER LEVEL

valid nacelle
#

Man I just love not being able to see floatplane chat if I watch on my iPad

bronze adder
#

Well its broken

gentle bear
#

It’s dead rn anyway

hoary fjord
#

It's broken

bronze adder
#

so you miss nothing

valid nacelle
#

That good to know lol

gentle bear
stark quiver
brazen osprey
#

Why is this not the official chat for the podcast

stark quiver
#

idk why that sent as a reply sorry

gentle bear
ionic plover
#

Natural Hype Train, no sugar added

cursive tiger
#

all natural organic twitch right here

bronze adder
#

Dan "we could bring it back"

gentle bear
ionic plover
#

Facebook?

round ermine
#

Anything but Kick

bronze adder
#

Floatplane is boring with no chat

round ermine
#

Time to glaze valve for 90 minutes

olive bronze
#

does twitch not get video?

bronze adder
gentle bear
#

RGBeanie

round ermine
#

LINUX MAN

gentle bear
#

Poor Luke

olive bronze
#

valve is in washington? so its barely a hike for linus to go down there

jolly oar
round ermine
#

3070 was $500, and matched 2080ti raw performance. Shame they gave it low VRAM so it's already struggling at 1440p

wicked inlet
#

hopefully those IR illuminators are compatible with ToF, since that could enable body tracking on a whole different level from vive trackers

bronze adder
#

Linus has never heard of rechargable batteries

olive bronze
#

beyond like, laptops and phones, the only people that use rechargable AAs are the people who vape

bronze adder
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I use them for my mouse, my xbox controller back when I used it and anything else I needed it for

woeful crescent
#

Ya I used to use rechargeable batteries, but I got to the point where I need so few, I just get disposable and don't need to think about charging them, having some charged, etc..

bronze adder
#

It would last hours in the xbox controller

woeful crescent
#

My Xbox controller I got the rechargeable pack..

olive bronze
#

i used to buy them for my gf who vaped

woeful crescent
#

Its really the ONE thing that I could use enough to make me seriously consider the cost of buying more batteries..

frozen umbra
#

RIP floatplane chat?

olive bronze
#

when did floatplane start their own chat?

#

yeah they're some people on twitch

bronze adder
#

FLOATPLANE chat is back!

wicked inlet
#

li-ion 1.5V AA rechargeable's are a good choice for voltage picky electronics

neat walrus
round ermine
#

They should show this chat instead

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We're cool. Ish.

olive bronze
#

wooo chat is back!

bronze adder
#

Did it just die again

olive bronze
frozen umbra
#

Oh I think chat died again lmao

neat walrus
bronze adder
#

I think it died my last message i see is from CountCampsALot

olive bronze
#

oh i think it may have died again

woeful crescent
#

My complaint isn't that it has AA batteries in the controller, its just I wish (or maybe they do) have a port on it to allow you to charge batteries inside of it..

rare tartan
#

GG’s everyone lol

bronze adder
#

Someone predictied it

neat walrus
woeful crescent
#

If they have/had a USBC port or something to allow charging without swapping, I'd like it even more..

ionic plover
#

darnit it came back to life and died again

solemn zenith
#

howdy friends,

Floatplane including chat is having issues. AJ is working on a hotfix, but it's up and down.

As well if you're on the beta site, that is also having issues viewing creator pages (including the livestream page). So we'd recommend using the stable build to watch for now (not beta.floatplane.com)

sorry for the issues! we'll get them all sorted for next week

frozen umbra
#

Konrad typing up a storm

neat walrus
#

Page doesn't load at all in Chrome. Might have something to do with session rather than browser idk.

bronze adder
#

Chat was up for two frames now it's borken again lol

ionic plover
#

I was not even able to push one message

neat walrus
frozen umbra
#

Ayy I'm blue now

olive bronze
#

shift-refresh, still no chat

tight mauve
#

is this watermark new, or am i just oblivious?

woeful crescent
#

Its been around a few weeks

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Since Sarah made the image :p

neat walrus
olive bronze
#

yeah doesnt he have a cute naame

woeful crescent
#

Sir Ability Tucan

ionic plover
#

on the left side of the screen

tight mauve
woeful crescent
#

Next to the chain

neat walrus
#

Oooooh

olive bronze
#

what stream? its not on floatplane

bronze adder
#

Is there a way to become blue without linking accounts

woeful crescent
#

She did it off stream during WANShow

olive bronze
#

ooooh i see it now

#

i wonder if they 3d printed it

woeful crescent
#

A couple weeks ago, forget exactly how many..

willow gull
#

Now the technichromatic jackets gone from the US store?

neat walrus
ionic plover
neat walrus
bronze adder
woeful crescent
#

Linus mentioned it and Sarah drew the image and sent it, then Dan spent like 20min playing with it on the overlay lol

neat walrus
olive bronze
#

i can barely see it

woeful crescent
#

You could probably search tucan on the reddit sub and that will bring up the week it happened..

olive bronze
#

oh right isn't Toocan something? i cant remember the name they gave it

bronze adder
woeful crescent
#

Sir Ability Toucan

olive bronze
#

lol

woeful crescent
#

Hence the hat

olive bronze
#

by summer valve will have sold so many of these new devices no matter the price

round ermine
#

The most I would pay would be the highest end steam deck price

cursive tiger
#

i don't think valve is getting any more than like $500 for those specs

round ermine
#

I predict $699 USD

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A part of the problem is that if they go to cheap, bad actors are gonna abuse that.

Remember when PS3s were bought in bulk to build a super computer?

bronze adder
#

I see it being just around 899 for the steam machine

round ermine
#

Valve would just lose money on that

neat walrus
#

But is it going to run Windows?

olive bronze
#

i think $700 is the price point for the machine, and the frame will be maybe $150 more

woeful crescent
#

If they are worried about mass sales from a company or something, just pull a SteamDeck Launch.. Require a Steam Account, with minimum hrs played, and put limits how many.. at least for a while..

neat walrus
#

They said the Deck would have perfect support for Windows, but last I checked it was unstable.

olive bronze
neat walrus
olive bronze
#

it runs windows games.

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it will run pretty much your entire steam library

neat walrus
#

So it's a more expensive Xbox that doesn't run all Xbox games?

olive bronze
#

no it will only run games that have pc ports

#

its a significantly more powerful steam deck with like, a 5060 in it

neat walrus
#

Well you just convinced me that if anything it should be significantly cheaper than an Xbox.

woeful crescent
#

I will be amazed if it doesn't run Windows without much issue, I mean its legit PC Hardware..

round ermine
#

It's being advertised to console people