the-wan-show

[woeful crescent]

Welp, hope the Americans get all their LTT Merch during Limedays.. he who shall not be named has announced a 35% Tariff on Canadian Goods starting Aug 1st.. facedesk

[glossy latch]

So i know this is odd, but the WAN Show caused me to fix my sitting posture. I was sitting in a chair that wasn’t made for someone in my caliber. Cut to 2023- Vancouver, Canada. I’m riding public transit to Surrey before hopping a lyft to The Office. I get in line for my tour, wait about 20 minutes, then finally walk into The Office. The first stop? Shortcircuit set- but who cares about that! Next was the WAN Show set. I sit in the “old” 2020 black and gold Secret Labs Titan chair that Linus had on set at the time. It felt pretty decent, but I didn’t have enough time in one. Fast forward to last week, my old RAZER chair I got at a shipping damage store for $80 in 2020 almost snaps at the base (due to wear and sitting on one side of the chair). I’ve got a bit of spending money, SL has a sale going on and they have become the chair partner of the WAN Show. So I bite the bullet, order the chair, then wait the 2 day shipping time and receive it today. Took about an hour to put it together- but as soon as it is? I simply sit down and feel my back release. That razer chair, the way the seat bent into my thighs causing me to get several different cushions, it all just floated away. This chair feels worth the cost so far and will update this as I live with it.

[daring chasm]

So, excuse me but I'm one of those weird Europeans who's supposed to be asleep right now...... wasn't the WAN show supposed to start a while back or have I missed something?

[timid ruin]

Honestly, my SL chair was often the only chair I was able to tolerate during pregnancy, apart from sitting on the couch with like 3 pillows. I just got a footrest upgrade after having the base chair for about 4 years now (also, it's the only gamer chair I've found that really does small size), and it's really worth it, apart from the assembly complication (the small chair is a bit shorter, so the legrest is a bit tight fit, despite having a matching sizing).

[timid ruin]

You're off by a day, friend. It's only Friday morning here - Thursday evening in Canada. Try tomorrow the same bad time, same bad channel.

[daring chasm]

Yeah I was about to say.....

Uhm

Yeah

[timid ruin]

Yeah, go to sleep, I'll do the same lol

[daring chasm]

I only just found the website with the countdown and was like:"hold up"

[timid ruin]

confused Danish sounds

[daring chasm]

Not all Europeans are Danish

There are some who are Dutch

[timid ruin]

Your ø speaks for you tho. No Dutch would dare using it. The power is too great.

All they can bring into a fight is Brugge

[glossy latch]

just from sitting in it for an hour i just feel so much better, it’s the right height- i actually have a lumbar support, and it leans back on the actual chair vs just the back.

[timid ruin]

Yeah I feel you. I was surprised how good it was. I got it when I moved to full HO at my previous workplace, and they've required me to have a fully adjustable and full lumbar support chair for work and safety, or else I'd have had to borrow one of the ergonomic office chairs and take it home/back to the office by taxi. Our work and safety advisor actually passed my chair as appropriate, despite being very harsh on most gaming chairs as inadequate for office use.

[twin fox]

did you know that Røde Microphones is not Danish, but Australian

[timid ruin]

I mean, we have the original Zealand, you have New Zealand...what's the difference really

[twin fox]

good point

[timid ruin]

I also wonder how you pronounce that, something tells me not quite the same slightly choke-on-the-tongue way

[twin fox]

I think they just want you to pronounce it like ‘road’, but at least here in Finland we call them rö-de

[timid ruin]

That's adorable. It's literally just a single gargle sound of a lakrids stuck to your throat before your life's pickled herrings roll down in front of your eyes

[twin fox]

I've made the same mistake a few times... one time I went as far as to tweet at Linus before taking a second look at the calendar

[timid ruin]

(as an expat in Denmark, I frequently struggle with pronunciation. Finnish was so much easier. You only ever need to know how to say "Niin" )

[twin fox]

noniin, I'm here
noniin, please stop
noniin, how long does it take
noniin, wow
noniin, well crap

[timid ruin]

niinkö niin

[twin fox]

no niinpä niin

[daring chasm]

Brugge is in belgium

[timid ruin]

Oh, the wholesomeness of Finnish one-word conversation. I miss it.

[timid ruin]

Yes. But that's the Flemish name. And the pronunciation is almost as bad as most pronunciation in Danish

Flemish is technically Dutch if you ask anyone else but the Flemish and the Dutch

[daring chasm]

Theyre just south-netherlands really

[timid ruin]

Exactly. Also, most other countries just call the city Bruges after the French name. A rare occasion where the French pronunciation is the reasonable one

[plain aurora]

I have a SL chair for many years. When I’ve had gluten (I have coeliac disease) it’s the only chair I can use. It’s amazing and a few days into having that chair my back stopped being so sore and now my back is fine.

Are they pricey? Yes. Worth it!

[glossy latch]

AND RECLINER

it’s literally cheaper than getting both the good office chair and a good recliner

[timid ruin]

Also, there's very few options in the market if you don't want to have a PU upholstery. After 4 years using the fabric one, the only degradation I had were the arms, where the PU started peeling off, so I now bought the plush cover one. It's a little weird at first, but I expect it to last.

[nova zodiac]

Hello does anyone know if the wan show will talk about the recent switch drama about banned devices and pre-owned switch 1 titles?

[brittle moon]

we never know what theyll talk about on the wan show until they do

[nova zodiac]

Thank you

[plain aurora]

dude, my nana gave me her eletric recliner. I went to a friends house with a manual... its not the same....

hhahaha
but yeah i would love to get a new one when i get under 100kg one of those cool coloured ones, i went with fabric and it does show its age but its a 2020 model so its expected but its not broken on me except for going up and down.

[crude sandal]

Would be showing its age much less than fake leather

[cursive tiger]

norway enters the room

[inner idol]

Any LTT viewers also watch LGR?

💿 The coasters just keep on flyin'... 💿

[timid ruin]

Hungary exits the room

[woeful crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-austin-powers-dutch-gif-10931343

[tiny nimbus]

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/07/chatgpt-made-up-a-product-feature-out-of-thin-air-so-this-company-created-it/

[marble frigate]

Flashback when my friend had a parallel port external CD burner, lots of coasters back then (and $5 a pop for Verbatim ones 😭)

[olive bronze]

any known time differences today?

[olive bronze]

this is inferring that in the future, companies could show their product directly to AI and say, this is my product, how could it be improved? What features could I add?

[woeful crescent]

I wonder if Linus will address what happened with the Herman Miller Desk ShortCircuit..

[tiny mauve]

I was about to watch when it was removed...

A good man later shared it on reddit tho

[woeful crescent]

I watched it.. nothing stood out as being an issue, appart from being hosted by a guy thats been fired..

[thorn bane]

I have a feeling that Dbrand has something to do with this. I'm calling it now

[plain aurora]

It might be the treatment he was talking about on wan a few weeks ago

[thorn bane]

But could he get Dbrand to sponsor it

[glossy latch]

dbraces

[jolly oar]

Yeah he said on a recent wan show that he was getting braces

[brittle moon]

Google Is Selling Fake Products - WAN Show July 11, 2025

[tiny mauve]

It's live boys

[turbid shoal]

(preshow)

[woeful crescent]

No sound?

To cover up how Linus is talking I assume..

[turbid shoal]

dan did a thing

[woeful crescent]

And its back..

Linus does not look happy :p

[tiny mauve]

This will be annoying.

Just, like, have good and uncrooked teeth naturally

[cursive tiger]

i'm seeing so many comments of "why does he need brackets his teeth are fine" if he's got the bite blockers on clearly his bite is way off, which is something you don't see but it will affect him anyway

[thorn bane]

Does twitch get pre show?

[tiny mauve]

Yes

[woeful crescent]

Everyone except youtube gets it..

[keen isle]

or floatplane?

[thorn bane]

Does that mean you can get it for free?

[thorn bane]

We get it

[tiny mauve]

Yes

Iirc Facebook even gets the VOD

(Including the pre-show, that is)

[thorn bane]

Why doesn't YouTube?

[tiny mauve]

They use the pre-show to try and fix any problems before going live

So the larger audience only gets the clean and (less) good part of the show

[cursive tiger]

email leaked lol

[turbid shoal]

full live

[tiny mauve]

The awkward silence while waiting for it to resume

[abstract agate]

im glad me and luke are struggling to not laugh as much

[willow gull]

When did the not a hot dog shirt drop? It’s out of stock in short sleeve?

[abstract mist]

https://tenor.com/view/ineed-money-grills-shining-goldteeth-gold-gif-4514894

Could have made something like this but write dbrand on it

Lothleth thcaling.

I love linus

[formal monolith]

oh they do harm it ive always wondered since it seems like it would suck

[cursive tiger]

lmfao i fell off my chair

[olive bronze]

man i can't stand looking at the two of them in the ugly sea-foam shirts

[real rover]

weird thing to care about

[olive bronze]

its like a color trying to be scrubs but failing

[patent pulsar]

​​whats wong with linus mouth

[olive bronze]

he got braces

[lost jungle]

3d printed ones lol

[plain aurora]

Yeah would be interesting to hear how the 3d printed braces go

[lost jungle]

to be fair i would have chose that too its too cool not to have 3d printed ones lol

[olive bronze]

he cant close his mouth

[cursive tiger]

no he can, he jutht can't theal

[plain aurora]

Does this mean he can only say hi like stitch does?

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-disney-stitch-hi-hello-gif-3562358

[formal monolith]

wan means something?

[unborn dagger]

"You bathtard."

[thorn bane]

Are we doing gift cards merch Messages?

I'm buying a lot tonight just for one merch massage

[bronze adder]

Hey there mentioning my link!

[tiny mauve]

You're doing merch massages? I'll take a merch massage. I had to move some heavy stuff today and didn't always lift with my back (the proper form)

[thorn bane]

If Dan sees this, I'm sorry. My merch messages weren't going through. Now you have 3. Sorry

[quartz thicket]

IMO the issue with stop killing games is they are campaigning for a vague outcome without offering either clear guidelines (i.e. a proposed law), nor are they offering a suggestion for how to create that outcome, so it translates roughly into "stop doing this wide variety of things that makes me feel a certain way" - which is not actionable feedback for the industry.

[random trout]

While you're not wrong, they've addressed this during numerous videos. It's deliberately broad because it first needs to get the attention of people with the power to enact actual change. Once it gets the attention, then the lawmakers and legal entities can come to the table to write the actual laws.

Don't get me wrong; I wish it were simpler than this... but these are gubbermints we're talking about. 🤣

[quartz thicket]

This approach gives me hearburn because there wer evague complaints about companies tracking personal data, and how we have popups on every single website about accepting cookies.

[random trout]

Agreed. The whole cookie consent / GDPR thing is a bit... annoying? Cumbersome? Like, I want people's data protected... but not at the expense of clicking through multiple UI/UX popup modals just to view the homepage.

[quartz thicket]

I think we are on the same page, my biggest fear is that EU law makers won't understand a nuanced topic that is debated by individuals that fully understand the problem and industry, and will do something by passing a law that makes the movement go away but doesn't solve the problem or enrich anyone's lives.

[random trout]

🤣

[cursive tiger]

"foot clothes" is an interesting way to phrase it

[stark shell]

I posted this in the FloatPlane chat, but as the show was going Youtube pushed new video control interface on me. Not a fan.

[sleek leaf]

I'm a little behind on WAN show, but I just had a thought regarding "custom" screwdriver colorways... What if every month, or every OTHER month there was a short run of different colours. There'd still be limited variations, and you'd have to wait for the combo you want to pop up, but it might be a compromise that simplifies logistics somewhat?

[round ermine]

Wow that was a short one this week

[crude sandal]

It was almost 3 hours long

2 and a half for youtube

[tiny mauve]

Another day, another shitty YouTube update.

Freetube has had some problems with YouTube's IP blocking recently, but using it solely as a playlist+subscription manager and MPV (with a boatload of cache enabled) + yt-dlp (with the POT provider plugin) as the player is still a much nicer experience over using the yt website.

[timid ruin]

Whilst it's far from perfect, it's something . Sadly, like everything in a democratic electoral body that encumbers several very different cultures, it's slow, complicated and has to satisfy a LOT of different countries, who couldn't even agree on what time they want to keep as perpetual time (choosing between two options of either summer time and standard time) whilst long elected almost unanimously to stop with the back and forth of clock setting.
Yet, EU lawmakers certainly are working on things that then also benefit the rest of the world. I just wish other countries/federations with similar impact would also do their share, so it would all be more speedy and effective.

[timid ruin]

I actually believe there's a current notion to add an addendum to that legislation, so that the "Reject all" option would have to be included at an easy to spot place without having to go through a list of stuff. Naturally, it won't exclude the option for sites to tie consent to free use and are otherwise offering paid usage.

[quartz thicket]

That type of addendum would be an improvement but they could dream bigger. ‘Reject all’ can be the mandated default without user input. The current state of all business webpages is malicious compliance plain and simple. We have no reason to believe that game developers and publishers wouldn’t do the same without a very specific framework to operate within.

[timid ruin]

Again, it's an electoral body of multiple countries with very different local legislation. Creating fit-for-alls is not simple, and a ton of bureaucracy is involved. It is what it is, not ideal, but, again, something . I voted to bring the Save Games initiative to the table, this was the most I could do at this time, it is also something. Meanwhile everyone is welcome to come up with better options in their respective countries with their respective elected government. Criticizing is always easier when someone is a passive bystander.

[cursive tiger]

people are already having enough trouble trying to explain how something like this would work in english, now imagine trying to get the same message across, not just in spirit but to the letter, in twenty-something other languages, all with their own different vocabularies and expressions and suddenly you come a tiny bit closer to understanding how big an undertaking this is

in other words, it'll take a while but let them cook

[ripe fulcrum]

Linus really be talking like:

🤓

[crude sandal]

luke and linus seem to have forgotten the colton interview story has already been told in a video

https://youtu.be/ZjJUVsmjIj4?t=322

[inner idol]

or maybe the B-roll of Linus destroying a keyboard

[tender prism]

This

[trim obsidian]

They should make reject all automatic for do not track

[timid ruin]

I mean, the Ghostery add-on has that function. Legally speaking, it's not that simple, but making it compulsory for users to have the easy opt-out choice is reasonable enough to expect in Europe.

We'll see when that ruling will come to effect

[spice oak]

Well LTT just got some feed back that they need bigger sized shirts for their merch 🙂

Ran into someone who works at LTT, nice guy. And he'll pass the message on for me 🙂

[crude sandal]

They've already got the message multiple times... It's unlikely to happen. not enough buyers past 3xl to justify adding so many more skus to the store

[plain aurora]

They've had that feedback for years

[warm pivot]

If someone needs bigger than a 3XL they need to invest in a Gym membership not an LTT shirt

[timid ruin]

Well, but they typically need to wear something for the gym (at least most gyms do a certain dress code), so the LTT shirt still takes priority here

[woeful crescent]

https://bsky.app/profile/radiodeadair.com/post/3ltssif6dlc2c

Nash (@radiodeadair.com)

The fucking head of fucking XBox Graphics used a fucking "AI" slop image to hire new engineers but couldn't tell that the fucking screen on the fucking monitor is facing backwards.

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Bluesky · Jul 13, 2025, 2:15 AM

[restive rain]

just reading the image is even funnier because it looks like a team making graphics for xbox is hiring

[warm pivot]

Shirt will be a self reward for losing weight

[muted gale]

Potential WAN topic, given recent discussion on Texas and how it would get implemented? (I know I already posted it on Reddit, but thought it worth sharing here too) https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditSafety/comments/1lzt65t/verifying_the_age_but_not_the_identity_of_uk/

[woeful crescent]

https://bsky.app/profile/markhurst.bsky.social/post/3ltwqfffpfc26

Mark Hurst (@markhurst.bsky.social)

Some places will have to start rationing water - to enable AI slop.

"A data center like Meta’s, which was completed last year, typically guzzles around 500,000 gallons of water a day. New data centers [will] require millions of gallons of water a day"

Gift link:
www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/t...

-# Their Water Taps Ran Dry When Meta Built Next Door

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Bluesky · Jul 14, 2025, 3:48 PM

[spice cairn]

shiit here we go, water wars over some fucking AI data centers

[woeful crescent]

Hear me out, build the Datacenters on upstream of Hydroelectric dams, or next to the ocean for tidal power projects..

[frozen agate]

the issue isnt for powering them

it is for cooling them down

seawater cannot be put through a cooling loop, it is too corrosive

you need freshwater, which, the ocean is definitely not a good source of

[woeful crescent]

Could do a heat exchanger though

Something something Linus Pool Cooling

[frozen agate]

at the scale of a datacenter it is difficult to do in a way which wouldnt affect local wildlife

but not impossible

[woeful crescent]

Gotta be easier (for all parties) than a datacenter in areas without water.. Sure if they pass it on to the locals its not their problem, but it'll be someones.. and comes with the risk that the local governments either cut off the taps or skyrocket the costs..

[cursive tiger]

just build all the datacentres in lake baikal then

i do find it pretty silly they build them in the desert though

[limber jewel]

Cotton shirts in the gym? I dont know

[timid ruin]

It was more of a sarcastic slap for the smart<donkey> body shaming comment than an actual realistic idea tbh. Being more forward generally just leads to more rudeness.

Also, I used to train in cotton shirts back when I did martial arts, both linen and cotton are actually ideal for absorbing sweat, since both are washable at a higher temp. Then again, I'm no gym rat

[inner idol]

I pretty much read that as The LockerGnome Daily Report verifying the age of British redditors

...uh, I don't think Chris Pirillo is verifying British redditors' ages there, much less all by himself.

[woeful crescent]

https://bsky.app/profile/metr.org/post/3ltn3t3amms2x

METR (@metr.org)

We ran a randomized controlled trial to see how much AI coding tools speed up experienced open-source developers.

The results surprised us: Developers thought they were 20% faster with AI tools, but they were actually 19% slower when they had access to AI than when they didn't.

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Bluesky · Jul 10, 2025, 7:46 PM

[inner idol]

AI is doing nothing to help developers in this regard

Like, it's doing something, but it's not quick enough to be as fast as they think it is, when it isn't.

[spice cairn]

TLDR: AI is shit

[novel cedar]

No videos since WAN show on Friday?

What am I supposed to do with myself

Crossing fingers a video drops later tonight

[tiny nimbus]

There’s been two new videos on ShortCircuit and two new TechLinkeds since WAN

[tiny mauve]

I gotta say, losing one of my daily lunch videos was annoying but perfectly acceptable given the circumstances, but the lack of a release schedule since the drama will likely forever be a little frustrating to me.

Even if it was a constantly changeable schedule, where the times were more of a goal, I'd still prefer it to the surprise of a new video whenever I open up my sub page.

[tiny nimbus]

I don’t have that problem with my 100+ subscriptions

[tiny mauve]

The amount of subs is actually part of the problem for me. Because I hate excessive notifications, I can't turn them on for channels that release shorts¹, so I sometimes I won't realise they've released a video until a couple of days later because they got lost in the organised chaos of my sub page

¹ I actually only have them notif on for 3 channels: Michael Reeves' annual video, SmarterEveryDay and Stuff Made Here, both short-less and somewhat sporadic channels.

It's very much a me problem, but how dare they not attend to my needs above everyone else's?

[high thistle]

There you go

[novel cedar]

Called it!

[novel cedar]

Thx lmao

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/apples-€143-billion-irish-tax-break-case-is-officially-over-113755771.html

[bronze adder]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/cars/technology/2025/07/10/hertz-ai-to-scan-for-damage/84526617007/

This is like how Amazon scans its delivery drivers vehicles before and after each shift to detect damage and hold drivers accountable, the same technology is now making its way to consumers. Hertz is now starting rolling out Ai powered scanners to nickel and dime customers for the smallest signs of wear and tear. Will this be the downfall of rental companies? Why should I get charged for wear and tear, don't I pay for that?

[trim obsidian]

Get the insurance or else machine

[tender prism]

We need more prompt engineers

[bronze adder]

There will be just no good news this week. https://fortune.com/2025/07/16/delta-moves-toward-eliminating-set-prices-in-favor-of-ai-that-determines-how-much-you-personally-will-pay-for-a-ticket/

[spice oak]

normally I wouldn't post something like this here~~, but since Linus was on this tv show~~ https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/cbs-cancel-late-show-stephen-colbert-financial-decision-1236464356/

[trim obsidian]

wrong show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybLi25Q8Fw

[plain aurora]

😦 going to miss meanwhile and other skits man

[plain aurora]

The show you linked is the one that is getting axed.

[trim obsidian]

No, the one I linked is the NBC competitor to the CBS show you linked.

[plain aurora]

Oh I can’t believe I mixed those two shows

Late show has been going since 93, so it’s sad to see it go.

[trim obsidian]

They'll probably get cheaper / less controversial staff and be back.

Perhaps with a different name tho

[plain aurora]

Hoping he starts his own channel

[spice oak]

oops, sorry 🙂

[spice cairn]

honestly the Colbert report with Stephen Colbert was a better show

watching both that and the Daily show with John Stewart back to back was amazing

especially during the writing strike back in the mid 2000's

[woeful crescent]

I hated Colbert Report.. its actually the reason I didn't stick with the Late Show after Letterman left.. Colbert was too.. over the top.. there.. and I couldn't seperate it and take him seriously..

I miss watching Stewart --> Letterman --> Craig

[olive bronze]

theres a ton of avenues out there. whether he goes youtube, patreon, roku, hulu, hbo, colbert will land on his feet and take most of his staff with him

in the meantime CBS will probably do say, a conservative panel show or something, hoping Skydance Media thinks its more acceptable

[olive bronze]

if nothing else CBS has just given a subscriber base to whoever Colbert chooses to go with

[plain aurora]

Yeah I don’t buy it’s financial reasons tag, def has some political reasons why it’s going off air

[keen bloom]

Gen Z goes to bed at 9

[wind hound]

lies

[olive bronze]

It is, but it's shortsighted. They eliminate an expensive show for 5 minutes of a stock bump, but it sacrifices their customer base.

[plain aurora]

Big time. I am a kiwi so don’t get their cable here but I’m a sub to his YouTube channel

[olive bronze]

I visualize Colbert walking into the boardroom with a stack of papers, saying "These are all offer letters. HBO, Roku, Hulu, AppleTV. Tubi for god's sake. Which one should I sign? They're all offering more than what I make here. Give me a reason to stay here." walks out.

[stark quiver]

I bet this will be a topic this week considering how much they both love Civ lol

Down from C$97.99 to free

[olive bronze]

free? where

[stark quiver]

Epic games store

[stark quiver]

Other than the new Tony Hawk remaster, I haven't paid for a single game on Epic lol

[olive bronze]

not a lot at least. sometimes they have good sales

[tiny mauve]

6*
AM, that is.
Though I did go to sleep at 9 yesterday. Also AM. But that's because I completely lost track of time playing around with docker after I removed every single container because I realised Plex was still installed and I could not get it removed or to stop running for some reason.

Also, surprising Colbert got axed, it was the least 💩 of all the late shows. The odd times I watched it when he was nerding out on LotR were pretty decent. And anyone that can recite the Nicene Creed from memory deserves respect imo, took me ages to memorise it

[plain aurora]

Colbert and some of the team that goes with him. I get the feeling it’s family. (Workmates become family)

[thorn bane]

I actually forgot WAN Show is tonight

[olive bronze]

ugh everyone and their brother must be trying to watch the new episodes of Strange New Worlds. I can't get it to load

[shadow beacon]

I hope they fix the crooked ass background so we don't see the poll holding up the wan background on Linus's side

[thorn bane]

I don't watch, (I listen after) but I can see why that would be annoying

[shadow beacon]

I can hear why you don't watch

[olive bronze]

i watch most of it then sometimes i leave early and watch the end from my ipad in bed

[thorn bane]

Our internet is so bad, I can't stream lol. I sometimes send in a merch messages and see if Dan saves it for later. If so, I just leave and go back tomorrow

[olive bronze]

about a year ago my internet company offered a new wireless router and i didn't even ask for it

[thorn bane]

Cool beans

[olive bronze]

i suspect they were hedging in case they wanted to offer a more expensive tier they could just flip a switch

[inner idol]

Remember when Linus and Luke played Decart's Oasis?
Well, now there's this Mirage thing they're doing, and I tried it with a Dazzle as a webcam, feeding it footage from the VHS release of Monkey Trouble.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Decart/comments/1m3eq48/i_ran_monkey_trouble_through_the_mirage_thing_and/

I wonder if we'll see Linus and Luke react to what Mirage can do with their own webcams on their WAN Show laptops.

[brittle moon]

i watched them yesterday, they were good

[rain sleet]

Why late again Linus

[woeful crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/letter-kenny-wayne-dont-fuck-with-tradition-katy-gif-14523336

[brittle moon]

Am I Going To Jail? - WAN Show July 18, 2025

[hasty eagle]

Why late did he get his teeth removed

[stark quiver]

He got the blocks removed on monday yee, he hosted a Techlinked Monday and his voice was already back to normal

[hasty eagle]

Whoa nice

I assume the door lock video was filmed prior to that

[real rover]

Did they stop doing pre-show on fb?

[round ermine]

Preshow is live

Floatplane and Twitch

Boy, the room has changed

[novel cedar]

Yeah

[round ermine]

Also, a high-quality remote host???

[novel cedar]

Really good stitching work

[round ermine]

Heresy

[novel cedar]

Man it looks good

[brittle moon]

crunch labs wan show

[hasty eagle]

Dan Arnetts

[novel cedar]

Oh yeahhhhhhhhh

Luke's at OpenSauce

Oh, I think Luke and Dan

Also, not to jinx myself, but has anyone else gotten a mid-roll ad on Twitch preshow yet?

Usually it would've hit by now, when I first open the stream or something

I haven't gotten any video ads yet (just ones in the sidebar for makeup?)

[stark quiver]

chip time

[jade python]

Beat me to it 😂

[woeful crescent]

They need to get Dan on Mic..

[novel cedar]

Yeah, how are they gonna do merch messages?

[woeful crescent]

I mean Linus can hear him so I assume they can pipe his audio to us if they want too..

[olive bronze]

what do you mean Luke is using his computer right there!

[plain aurora]

they just changed the set to make it two toned

[novel cedar]

We're doing it!!!

Damn, beautiful

[olive bronze]

lol that almost worked!

[novel cedar]

Their best take

"Fuck it, we'll do it live"

[sleek kayak]

that was the best intro ever

[woeful crescent]

The first two tries on preshow were the best takes.. then they started overthinking it :p

[sleek kayak]

Perfect reaction about Grok...

[round ermine]

All PS2s are backwards compatible.

FIrst gen PS3s had PS2 compatibility

And I think they removed PS1 in like the final model of the PS3

[plain aurora]

As far as i know, PS2 can do 1 and Ps3 can only do backwards if you get a certain model, 5 can do 4

[woeful crescent]

PS3 can do 1 on all versions if I'm not mistaken..

[plain aurora]

thats why i got the 5 when i could because i got it for a open box price in a pawn shop

[round ermine]

It's not really an issue of PS4 games not running on the PS5 in the same way because they both run on x86

[woeful crescent]

And PS3 can do 2 on the early Fat ones

[round ermine]

So porting as it has been traditionally known is basically dead

[plain aurora]

The PS3's backwards compatibility varies by model. All PS3 models can play PS1 games. Some early PS3 models (60GB and 20GB "fat" models with 4 USB ports) have full hardware-based backwards compatibility with PS2 games, while later models use software emulation with varying degrees of success.

[round ermine]

It's why PC versions got so consistently good at around 2014

It's not so much porting as it is just applying a different console license and treaking some graphics that the PC version gets the full range of

With no changes to the code to run on the different processors

[inner idol]

Am I the only one who thinks Linus' braces are cool?
Like, honestly neat, no mocking from me here!

[plain aurora]

he sounds much better than last week

[olive bronze]

does anyone here understand this powerpack thing?

is that only on the international store?

[random trout]

Correct. Powerpacks only available on the Global store.

[olive bronze]

ah the curse of living in ohio

[round ermine]

I mostly blame the AWFUL name change

FOr Intel's current gen being a flop

People think i5/i7/i9 for the branding

Why the hell do motherboard makers do so many models of the same damn chipset

I get formfactor differences

But why is there like 4 ATX Z890s from the same brand

The B580 basically matches the 5060 in performance

With more ram

And usually cheaper

Just get that instead

[novel cedar]

Something is up, haven't gotten a SINLGE ad on twitch this whole show

Wonder if Colton finally disabled them

[bronze mist]

i cant get into floatplane everytime i try to watch live i get kicked to login, but i can watch all the other videos no problem

[sleek kayak]

I still can't think why Intel gave up such an iconic brand for something worse which literally killed their repuation

[novel cedar]

Loving this dog collar idea

[sleek kayak]

Has Luke been using the new Nothing headphones?

[woeful crescent]

I love my nVidia Shield.. but GOD any time it gets a sniff of power it takes over my reciever and tv :p

[bronze mist]

now i want some miss vickies salt and vinegar chips

[inner idol]

HDMI CEC, probably

[woeful crescent]

Oh for sure..

[inner idol]

unless it's taking over the power supplies of both the TV and AVR, and slightly robbing them of the power they need

[woeful crescent]

Its not.. its CEC..

Warship is moody about my comments on nVidia :p

But ya, Linus has mentioned a couple times now that the Shield is bad for being posessive where CEC is involved..

[plain aurora]

CEC is a pain in the ...e. My PS5 does it randomly

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theverge.com/news/709836/ring-police-video-sharing-police-axon-partnership

[tiny nimbus]

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/18/a-surveillance-vendor-was-caught-exploiting-a-new-ss7-attack-to-track-peoples-phone-locations/

[inner idol]

NVIDIA probably needs a small group of dedicated Shield personnel who care about this stuff, but I can only imagine that their business, add-in, OEM, AI, and other financial revenue paths probably couldn't be barely spared to patch the CEC issues.

Shield needs some dedicated super-geeks or fanboys that work underneath the NVIDIA umbrella the same way Toonami works under Warner Bros. Discovery.

A passion project that is maintained alongside normal Adult Swim work

Shield needs to be a passion project with more dedication and support

[woeful crescent]

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Ana Valens | 🔞 (@acvalens.net)

VICE's owner Savage Ventures has requested the removal of my Collective Shout articles. This is due to concerns about the controversial subject matter—not journalistic complaints

Effective immediately, I will no longer contribute to Waypoint. I suggest letting VICE's owner know if this upsets you

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[flat carbon]

that story will probably be making the rounds on more major networks the next few days journalists are already asking to interview them

https://web.archive.org/web/20250719204151/https://www.vice.com/en/article/group-behind-steam-censorship-policies-have-powerful-allies-and-targeted-popular-games-with-outlandish-claims/

the OG article

thankfully wayback machine got it

[trim obsidian]

Now if only shareholders in these companies were to sue the board for not keeping their responsibilites to shareholders instead of terrorists in mind.

[inner idol]

Savage Ventures doesn't seem to be aware of the Streisand effect

It happened with Vox Media back in 2019

It also happened with Google in 2024, when YouTube pulled the original official LTT upload of De-Google Your Life: Part 2

History is basically repeating itself.

[woeful crescent]

https://xcancel.com/jasonlk/status/1946069562723897802

[restive rain]

i was just so lost and confused while reading this

im am not big on the vibe coding

like why would you want to do that

i saw someone else on reddit bring up a great point: what other industry could you just full on show up your first day with no experiance and it would be seen as fine to "vibe it out" using ai 💀

[woeful crescent]

https://mastodon.social/@stevefenton/114884309428927834

Steve Fenton ➜ (@[e-mail])

There's a vibe coding thread where developers are having an epiphany: maybe they should keep old versions of their code around, just in case their latest inspired hack turns everything into digital spaghetti.

Congratulations—they've just discovered their first professional software delivery practice: Version control. That's from 1972.

Next week, they'll revolutionize development by inventing "testing" after their app crashes in production. Again.

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[random trout]

Um, I mean, this is what "Version Control" is for... And if your version control system can be hosed with one line of code AND you have no backups / disaster recovery plans, you're doing Dev Ops entirely wrong.

[restive rain]

I mean you don’t keep your DB in version control

I think the real learning lesson here is don’t give llms which don’t give a fuck about any instructions full read/write access to critical systems

[woeful crescent]

You also don't give Randos full access to the DB, which includes AI's..

Or at least should include AI's

[random trout]

Well, yeah, that too. 🤣 You also need multiple environments. Using your prod environment for anything other than debugging is a recipe for disaster. Dev, QA, and pre-prod all need to exist separately in an ideal setup.

[timid ruin]

If it's GxP, pre-prod isn't even necessary. In pharma we just do Dev, QA and Prod, where Dev isn't GxP controlled (since it is really a playground), but both QA and Prod are - so nothing happens without several signatures of different departments validating the changes first. And it's not only an expectation - the system doesn't let through anything, since it's a system level process.
But non-GxP, I can see how Pre-prod could make sense, although I feel like that's just a fancy QA.

[inner idol]

vibe coding...

You all watch Chris Pirillo?

[restive rain]

no

[inner idol]

Looks like OpenAI's Andrej Karpathy coined the term

I think how Chris Pirillo was to vibe coding is like how The X-Files and Gravity Falls were to "trust no one" and "ackin' so cray-cray".

Why reinvent the wheel?

[tiny mauve]

I've been vibe coding since before LLMs

Never took the time to learn Python, so I just keep throwing shit at the IDE and see what sticks

And I haven't written any C, the language I actually learned, since 2022, because I hadn't used it for a couple of years by then and when I needed to code with it again... well, the amount debugging I had to do for just the simplest stuff that I had completely forgotten about was utterly ridiculous

[gilded quail]

So will the whole shebang with IronMouse be covered on the next WAN Show?

Completely understand if LMG or Linus himself can't due to either not being on topic specifically with tech or if there's some type of executive investment into VShojo from anyone at LMG.

[woeful crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwLbGcUMy6g

Its tech adjacent enough that I could see them covering it, could also see them not..

Might be interested to get Linus's view on streamer agencies..

[gilded quail]

My own perspective: I'm shocked that there isn't any sort of union for VTubers yet. Though I'm not shocked, a lot of VTubers that are popular currently are from Japan, which isn't quite known for workers to unionize due to culturual differences when it comes to how they prioritize group think compared to the West which tends to be more individualistic and are more critical of the people who are in charge of their workplace.

I've heard that there's some inherit trust fans of VTubers have with the VTuber agencies, which comes down to the honor system. Where they just have to trust that the agencies are treating their talent well.

There's a lot of parallels people have drawn over the years between VTubers and WWE wrestlers, so I'll just leave this here for anyone who's curious: https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/wrestling-union/

I know Linus, as a member of the LMG executive board, has his own perspective of unions. But I do inherently disagree with him on how unions are a reflection of your overall performance as a higher up.

Just so I don't go on, I'll just say this: Unions shouldn't be seen as the workers having a disdain for their high ups. More so an agreement between the two parties on what conditions should be met while the workers work for the high ups.

(Also if Linus is reading, no hard feelings for you personally, just my own opinion from personal experience.)

[woeful crescent]

I never got the impression Linus "hates" unions.. he just says that if one is needed (at LMG) then he feels he failed.. He's said before that they have been necessary.. obviously in cases like this, people are being failed.. that said not sure how much a Union would help, given the cross-borders issues, and how many people out there would stream without caring, I think one would have limited over all benefit.. Now maybe connecting themself to SAG or something might have more teeth.. but even then, SAG can't stop Twitch or YT from letting people stream that aren't members, so agencies would just back those people..

[gilded quail]

I never really thought that Linus had hatred for unions overall. Again, I view it less of an indication that you failed as a leader and more so a type of agreement that would allow workers to benefit from having required needs met; while giving the leader in question a tangible list of requirements for them to fulfill. Almost think of it like a contract.

I doubt that Linus would view signing a contract for work as a failure on his end to go through with his promises and expectations. It mainly just highlights to him what his workers need in order to fulfill their work obligations. Obviously the requirements should be within the realms of possibility given the context of what's bring brought to the table by the leader and workers.

And to highlight again, I get Linus' perspective. I have my own struggles with not taking criticism and expectations that you have to fulfill personally. But, as someone running a large operation like LMG, it's at the benefit of his workers and himself to outline the terms of work when it comes to employees at LMG.

(Also not to say he isn't, just a general statement to highlight my own perspective on the importance of unions.)

[inner idol]

What does this potentially mean for human VTubers?
https://youtu.be/LyCCEpRXkuY

and by human VTubers, I mean human-puppeteered VTubers.

Compared to human-puppeteerd VTubers, I bet AI VTubers like Bloo is probably veering towards the AI slop domain rather than the toys that some of these AI tools were meant to be right now.

Who knows if these AI VTubers would either get slapped by YouTube's attempt to crack down on a chunk of AI slop (like Linus mentions here) or would wiggle their way around the barriers that YouTube might put up.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x4wqYlsJo4g

[inner idol]

And, my main YouTube channel and viewing channel got removed by YouTube within an hour.

I think this has to be part of a wave of mass YouTube deletions that is designed to punish bad actors but punishes everybody.

I'm appealing both of them, because I think they removed my channels by mistake, robbing me of 10 years of history.

[plain aurora]

What the they just deleted without a chance of you saying anything?

[inner idol]

Yeah

It sucks!

They removed my main channel thinking there were scams, spam, and deception, which isn't true.

and they removed my viewing channel, which is older than the main channel, because they think it's circumventing policies, when it wasn't.

It really does seem like Google doesn't want users like me to be on YouTube anymore

so they are on an AI-powered quest to erase and eradicate users with no remorse or regret whatsoever.

[plain aurora]

That’s one of the reasons why I abandoned my one

I didn’t want to put all that time and effort into something that can be misunderstood and taken away

[inner idol]

It's really gross that YouTube regularly participates in this type of egregious activity.

I just discovered that this happened yesterday.
https://www.theverge.com/news/711158/youtube-removed-thousands-of-channels-tied-to-chinese-and-russian-propoganda-networks

My channels were never tied to propaganda networks from China or Russia, but I wonder if this is blowback from this ban wave.

Also, the article I showed is from the same The Verge whose parent company went nuts over six years ago over the "How to Build a PC" video that went viral for how bad it was, YT creators cringed at it in reaction videos that were popular, strikes were issued, the original video was pulled, backlash happened, the Streisand effect went in full gear, it was a nightmare.

https://ppc.land/google-dismantles-9-800-channels-in-q2-2025-coordinated-influence-operations

[keen isle]

i knew your channel a few years ago, but that sucks :(

[inner idol]

It is absurd how YouTube just lets its AI run loose on something like this.

[inner idol]

You probably might remember a few logo or trailer uploads, telecast emulations, test boxes, or sorta meme-y videos like the LTT Remix I did in early 2019 in light of the Nitroblast video "Luke Sports Tips" that was highlighted on the WAN Show that talked about the whole Vox Media/Verge saga and BitWit (among others).

[keen isle]

The first half of the sentence i remember but the second half, i didn't know that!

[woeful crescent]

https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/vtubers-join-ironmouse-in-quitting-vshojo-amid-500k-charity-scandal-3229379/ yep..

[inner idol]

VShojo is truly looking like the WWE of VTubers

The VTubers tied to VShojo might as well have been called "independent contractors" by whoever's the Vince McMahon equivalent at VShojo

and who really wants to be an "independent contractor" or employee (more accurately) for either of the two?

No one, based upon what we see here.

[neat kiln]

Company is cooked

[woeful crescent]

Yep, but if they already cashed out that might be the worst result..

[tender prism]

I think vibe coding can work for smaller tasks or projects but if you're dealing with large requirements and projects around enterprise code, then I think that's where you'll have trouble even knowing if what the LLM gave you was correct and you'd need an actual developer to verify each process

[brittle moon]

I’ve used some llm assistant tools, but only a few times. Useful for small things I need to write but don’t feel like writing. I usually end up fixing it anyway, but it gets me started at least

[tiny nimbus]

I expect Luke will have a whole segment talking about Open Sauce on the next WAN, but I enjoyed this shot of Dan holding a giant transparent screwdriver (from Geerling’s vlog https://youtu.be/95Ec_XZBFMU)

[spice cairn]

[inner idol]

This is definitely true.

The things Chris Pirillo and some of his peers vibe coded were small "toys" like a virtual theremin I dinked around with on my phone last week.

You can't really vibe code something monolithic enough to be polished by traditional coding.

It's easier to vibe code a toy with AI rather than a full operating system, for example.

[tender prism]

You really can't. You need an experienced engineer verifying each step of the process, correcting mistakes themselves, adding pieces themselves.

At that point, you still need software engineers because Claude and Chat-GPT are just glorified personal google assistants, boilerplate and auto-complete tools. They're still useful in that sense.

[inner idol]

That is true.

[pastel fox]

I just watched the Indian PC Roast video. And why the hate of small mouse spaces? I have a 1200mm LTT Deskpad and I use 10x10 cm space for my mouse commonly 😄

4 cm is enough to go across the full screen with mouse acceleration (which I'm pretty used to)

[inner idol]

Maybe some people like using wide mouse spaces with the same acceleration when it comes to FPS games?

At the same acceleration settings meant for a small space, it certainly is overkill for productivity.

(outside of Blender with similar infini-cursors to FPS games)

[pastel fox]

I played COD a lot with this small mouse space, was totally fine. (Not pro level by any stretch of the word tho)

[inner idol]

I guess it's so they can more the cursor farther, like a 270 or 360 degree spin or something?

To each their own

[plain aurora]

He was basically comparing to his preference.

[woeful crescent]

Given the topics of the video the answer is so simple.. small monitor, small mouse area.. duh :p /s

[spice cairn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1m7qex3/itchio_seems_to_have_straight_up_wiped_all_adult/

this is MASSIVE

[spice cairn]

they literally delisted/ just removed a BUNCH of adult content here

im... im like super upset that this shit keeps happening

these payment processors NEED TO FUCK OFF

and the kinds of "Christian" right wing groups that push and support this kinda censorship as well

https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-content

fucking cowards

all this read as... "we bent our knees to daddy visa and mastercard"

[inner idol]

The "Christian" and Christian subsets need to run their own itch.io-like thing rather than interfere with itch.io themselves.

[inner idol]

Patreon and Jordan Peterson all over again.

[inner idol]

and I do say both.

Heck, why can't there be a Jewish itch.io-like thing?

[inner idol]

itch.io is looking more like a Pamblr... Tumbreon... crowdfunding blogging monstrosity?

itch.io did not need to pull a Tumblr, nor a Patreon, but it happened.

Heck, even the timing is familiar.

[plain aurora]

there is a trend... "okay we will bow down when questioned" throughout companies atm

[inner idol]

and my YouTube channel being terminated before this due to their AI thinking I spammed or circumvented preceding this,
reminds me of Vox using copyright strikes on--and risking shuttering--BitWit and ReviewTechUSA, among however many others, over the whole Verge PC building video that was so badly made. That took place after the Jordan Peterson/Patreon fiasco.

Patreon bowed down when questioned like itch.io did six years later.

and of course, they both overlaped two different terms of the same president, Trump.

[spice cairn]

im actually seething mad right now

[inner idol]

and you probably should.

Because history is repeating itself and no one is learning anything,

[spice cairn]

WHEN WILL THIS END

when does it stop

[inner idol]

because either no one lives long enough to see the pattern,

or they're too blind to see it.

[spice cairn]

what do i have to do... who do i have to do it to for it TO STOP

[inner idol]

This quote from Adventure Time: Stakes lives rent-free in my head because of all this turmoil.

"Everything repeats over and over again. No one learns anything, because no one lives long enough to see the pattern, I guess."
-Marceline, 2015

Even Chris Pirillo uttered this phrase in 2016, that also fits this whole ordeal well:

"Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat the mistakes they made in the past."

But I'd go far and say that even those who do remember, may not be remembering correctly, or are too clouded, overpowered, or stuck-up to change their ways.

[restive rain]

I mean did you expect them to just not and be unable to process any payments?

It makes sense that itch.io does not want to gamble if the payment processors threats of being unable to continue processing payments are legit

More people would probably be mad that they can’t buy/make any money then the people mad that their nsfw game just got deindexed

[flat carbon]

https://twistedvoxel.com/itch-io-removes-adult-games-books-no-longer-downloadable/

spreading

[spice cairn]

don't try to defend what there doing please

its not a good look

just because it isn't you... or hasn't effected you in anyway doesn't mean they won't come for you in the future

a lot of indy devs who make adult games... with queer and kink content make there living off of this site

[restive rain]

I don't agree with what the payment processors are forcing steam and itch to do, I can however recognize that both of these companies are kinda fucked in their options if they are taking the threats of these payment processes seriously.

[spice cairn]

like Linus said last WAN show... for valve i don't think so

itch.io is smaller yeah. but because valve capitulated so easily... this is now the result

there's there's a precedent set for this

[restive rain]

I don't think them going after itch is a direct result of valve bending so easily

[spice cairn]

and those implications are NOT good

[spice cairn]

how do you not think it is? its the same ass group

[restive rain]

there is nothing to say that if valve didn't comply they wouldn't still just shift focus to itch

[inner idol]

Steam, Patreon, itch.io,
who's next?

Ko-Fi?
Kickstarter?
Redbubble?

There's too many Jordan Petersons ruining it for everyone.

[spice cairn]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/401

US fair banking act

im not a citizen nor do i live there

but like those that do should push for this

particularly section 5 should be relevant to this

[inner idol]

I do admit the USA should greenluella Magi Madoka Magica.... what?

Sorry. Having a buella Magi-..... derp

Puella Magi Madoka Magica brainrot alert!

My biggest weaknesses are anime, Blu-ray, Sony,
...and Cartoon Network. (who has yet to air Madoka Magica on Adult Swim. ...but they should.)

[brazen osprey]

i can't get into newer anime. hand drawn animation >

[inner idol]

Say what you will about former Pixar director/exec. producer John Lasseter, but his statement from 2009 here still checks out.

2D animation being the "scapegoat of bad storytelling" could explain as to partly why hand-drawn animation in the mainstream in US cinemas fizzled out and became a niche.

I betcha all those TV show movie adaptations--including some quality bangers like The Powerpuff Girls Movie, Recess: School's Out, The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, and The Tigger Movie (not technically a New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh movie, but it is a Disney Television Animation-produced DisneyToon movie, leaning closer to the ethos of the 1966-1974 Pooh featurette continuity, so... kinda counts but kinda doesn't?)--either underperforming at the box office, sometimes being mid or garbage to critics and/or moviegoers, or just flooding the cinema space probably also contributed to 2D's mainstream decline in cinemas,

all this, on top of the stiff competition from CG animated movies, especially from the big-wigs like Pixar, DreamWorks, and eventually Blue Sky, Sony Pictures Animation, and Illumination later on.

And of course, the stiff competition from live-action movies of the same era.

For example, Hey Arnold!: The Movie and The Powerpuff Girls Movie opened the same summer of 2002 (May to July in this case) as six particular high-profile movies that season; Men in Black II, Austin Powers in Goldmember. Lilo & Stitch, Spider-Man, Stuart Little 2, and probably the most high-profile of them all, Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones.

Not a particularly good time to release a TV film adaptation, especially for a show as then-popular as The Powerpuff Girls.

And of course, Paramount and Nickelodeon's superb TV film adaptation that year--The Wild Thornberrys Movie--competed in the same holiday season as The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers and Paramount's own Star Trek: Nemesis. (which was also a TV film adaptation of sorts being part of a TV-originated franchise)

28 Days Later also opened in the domestic UK cinemas at the same time in late 2002, but it wouldn't "infect" the worldwide market and "rage" on until Fox Searchlight got ahold of the worldwide rights and released it in the Summer of 2003.

By then, both that and Finding Nemo would've been gobbling up the 2003 summer B.O.

especially eating away at 2D TV films like Rugrats Go Wild and original 2D films like Disney's Brother Bear

Also, Treasure Planet definitely suffered a beating at the same 2002 summer as Hey Arnold! and Powerpuff.

Ice Age being a surprise March 2002 hit didn't help either.

[tiny mauve]

Although probably not intended, the way you introduced this quote and the one above makes it seem like you think this it's an entirely new concept introduced by those two sources

[inner idol]

...even though it's not

and I'ms iNGS sorry for not clarifying it too soon.

iNG'S?

Got sidetracked by Techmoan's video on Yamaha iNG'S karaoke system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ehl1aFQnpQ

Sorry for not clarifying it too soon.

...and getting sidetracked rather easily.

[woeful crescent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1174696738938957864/1398011694697021480/image.png?ex=6883cf59&is=68827dd9&hm=32dd4d4e7fe43a68976529a29c0d993c8e726c3a2d75fd0f8964a07dcb67cb48&

Welp, at leat hes owning up to it.. sorta.. now its time for a full accounting to see how many cars and yachts VShojo got for their execs..

[spice cairn]

https://bsky.app/profile/iantos.bsky.social/post/3luondx46tk2v
https://bsky.app/profile/iantos.bsky.social/post/3luordmldas2v

Iantos (@iantos.bsky.social)

Maybe we could find out.

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Collective Shout, the group that took credit for bullying Mastercard into recently censoring more platforms, stated that apparently it took them ~1000 phonecalls to convince them to give them what they wanted?

We got like way more people than that don't we?

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Iantos (@iantos.bsky.social)

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IF you decide to contact these companies, be it phone, email, or whatever, be polite and friendly. The customer service people are not responsible for their business' policies, and they deal with enough shit as is.

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Bluesky · Jul 24, 2025, 5:09 AM

i feel like they also bring this up on the WAN show tomorrow as well

[novel cedar]

Any floatplane $5 peeps not able to watch the newest video?

[brittle moon]

yeah

[novel cedar]

Is that intentional?

[brittle moon]

i dont think so

[brittle moon]

its fixed now

[novel cedar]

Thx

[inner idol]

Heck, how many yachts and cars Vince McMahon got from WWE, if we wanna keep the VTubing/pro wrestling analogies going

Vince probably had more than the VShojo execs, since he's been in the corporate side of the pro wrestling scene for so long.

...way too long.

also, RIP Hulk Hogan, speaking of WWE.

Linus Wrestling Tips would be funny to think about.

I wonder how Luke would do in a cage match...

[thorn bane]

Whats a good WAN Show episode to share? I want to introduce my friend to it

[tiny nimbus]

It’s a long one but an all-time classic https://youtu.be/lh8Zdyy3zTQ

Also this one https://youtu.be/4QUzf-J0w_o

[inner idol]

If your friend is interested in historical or pre-Dan, pre-merch messages, pre-After Dark WAN Shows,
Here are some classics:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzu1-VM7y6g
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBNNQWO-qw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JnZM9VY86_w
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f8sXQ6JsNu8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2PDj-my6_kA&pp=0gcJCccJAYcqIYzv
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1v7H0NJwEw

Notable highlights include "okay Google, don't play music!", the Vox/Verge copyright strike scandal, Mack Weldon sponsor spot shenanigans, the first WAN with Riley, and Intel being undignified and jealous of AMD and their Ryzen/Epyc/Threadripper prowess.

[thorn bane]

Thanks

[thorn bane]

I don't think I've heard this on before

[brazen osprey]

The one where they grew a pair and didn’t censor the swearing https://www.youtube.com/live/B1lfVm7JMFk

[thorn bane]

Yeah... But it's not the best for a introduction show. It's my personal favourite tho

[inner idol]

It's a one-off, and not a normal WAN Show, so not the best starting point

This classic WAN makes a good historial WAN entry:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9mfxb428x2I

I love how Linus screams "What are you talking about!?" and "Figure out who the real enemy is!!" over the Xbox Adaptive Controller's joystick accessory and a tweet Linus did that pissed off people

[thorn bane]

Right. As he said, it's a real bad first show. Just like the Trust Me Bro scandal would have been a really bad is first impression on LTT and LTT Store

[thorn bane]

I actually haven't seen it yet

[inner idol]

People thought he mocked disabled gamers when he mocked plastic molding as a cost-saving measure on a PDP Xbox-ified Wii Nunchuk for the Adaptive Xbox Controller

https://x.com/LinusTech/status/1098018294215241728?lang=en

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

Good job Microsoft. You invented the Wii nunchuk!

X · Feb 20, 2019, 12:35 AM

Long ago when LTT's Twitch channel allowed community clips, I (otherfileslikeslttwan) clipped the part with Linus raising his eyebrow before screaming in that episode.

[inner idol]

Agreed.
You don't want to try to pique people's interest in something with controversy

[thorn bane]

Yes.

[inner idol]

...unless they're interested in "I used to think you were cool" cynical & snarky attitudes,
but it's basically the whole "misery only loves company" argument at that point

People want to be around others who are happy about something, not upset, angered, etc.

To use an example, you don't want to use a modern Dymo label maker (the mechanical ones, not the electronic ones) to give a first impression of the label makers, you want to use a well-maintained 60s or 70s or even 80s one for that.

A good first impression beats a poor first impression at any time.

Minds are hard to change with a poor first impression, while a good first impression is more open to stuff.

Quality matters.

[thorn bane]

They have no idea who LTT is.

I hope this is good https://youtu.be/lh8Zdyy3zTQ

[inner idol]

also this one too https://youtu.be/4QUzf-J0w_o

oh wait, that's already mentioned

At this point, we're just doing the west coast feed encore rn

[thorn bane]

It's a girl, so manybe not.....

[tiny nimbus]

I hate this new Discord feature so much https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/brits-can-get-around-discords-age-verification-thanks-to-death-strandings-photo-mode-bypassing-the-measure-introduced-with-the-uks-online-safety-act-we-tried-it-and-it-works-thanks-kojima/

[inner idol]

It's kinda funny looking at Sam's expressions

the header image almost makes it look like he's trying to eat the phone.

[woeful crescent]

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tea-app-breach-exposes-72000-selfies-id-photos-and-other-user-images/

[woeful crescent]

Wait till the Discord data breach happens, all those selfies taken for the UK, and we find out 80% of them are Sam Bridges..

[trim obsidian]

pretty sure discord gets nothing - they use a third party oath

tho I could be wrong and confusing it with another site like the hub

[spice cairn]

still got that honey pot out there

[abstract mist]

that 3rd party service can get breached too

[trim obsidian]

yeah and that's worse since the larger surface area of multiple services worth of users.

[heavy glen]

Didn't a bunch of drivers licenses get leaked this morning on 4chan?

Edit: I now realize it's the same app

[abstract mist]

where wan show?

[restive rain]

omg the 8 bit breadasurus shirt looks so cute

its like the google dinosaur game look

[random trout]

Everyone ask where WAN show, but does anyone ask how WAN show?

[woeful crescent]

Why WANShow..

[harsh crane]

Wanshow is a noshow

[brittle moon]

Slow Internet Is Good For Consumers Actually - WAN Show July 25, 2025

[woeful crescent]

Preshow Live

[sleek kayak]

great timing to walk into lmao

[woeful crescent]

They ran Fiber to every house that has Powerlines running to it in at least my part of Nova Scotia.. and I'm very rural.. as in I remember being on a Party Line..

And I went from Dialup, flakey LTE (unstable at best), and a 1.5/0.25Mbps Point-to-Point wireless interent, to https://i.imgur.com/v4gICxg.png..

[formal monolith]

we just got fiber here in rural nice going from 20(10-15) down 5(.5-1) up to 500 down whatever up

[woeful crescent]

Ya day it was installed it was 500 down, then a month or two later to Gigabit, and now 1.5 Gigabit..

I got the extended Warranty on my Alienware laptop (condition of 0% financing) and it saved me, they swapped the charger twice, battery, and a next-day tech to bumblefuck nowhere to swap the motherboard (and anything else if they decided it was needed) when battery and power brick didn't fix its not charging issue..

And for the price of an expensive device, warranty can be worth it.. but I don't get it on everything..

[sharp light]

Just got my town from cable to fiber this summer.

[woeful crescent]

Clean the Cobwebs DAN

[cursive tiger]

lmao what even is this show

[woeful crescent]

Something we all ask, every show.. often times more than once..

[west vapor]

I didn’t understand the chicken joke

[high island]

this is definitely one of the more unhinged literally anything goes wan shows

[woeful crescent]

Carbon monoxide Poisoning?

Or just stoned..

Jury is still out..

[high island]

yeah..... lukes also just gone

[inner idol]

That Proton sponsor spot is funny

It almost looks like Sherlock Linus is kidnapped to a weird death

[trail bone]

im from london england, i just checked the hub.... omg it has actually come through.... when did this happen?!

not fun lol

people have become too dependent on "ai", i was having an argument with someone and they sent me a screen shot of their chat gpt that said i was factually wrong but every response they gave me was a simple copy paste. People are loosing the ability to think for themselves

and the inability for them to form their own opinions was insane

[inner idol]

Algorithmic complacency at play

AI is breaking the way we think

I highly recommend watching this Technology Connections video about the topic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA

[trail bone]

ouww thank you for the video, i'll give it a watch now

i feel like critical thinking is slowly dying

[crude sandal]

Slowly? It's been very quick

[azure jackal]

I got a very same same image

[plain aurora]

Very very quick, I know people who just don’t know how to do it within a few weeks now. People now call me smart

I am. But it’s because I’ve worked hard on my soft and hard skills. I can’t imagine using ai for basic stuff, maybe writing cover letters that’s about it

[jolly oar]

tangentially related to the current wan topic

[plain aurora]

I read a story on not always right last week on how a guy didn’t want to use a unisex toilet just encase he got a woman pregnant by using it.

So I can believe AI thinking that would be normal

[inner idol]

Critical thinking is a very important thing that shouldn't ignored.

[brittle torrent]

I’m trying to critically think about how I’m gunna get my music libraries synced between my devices, I wanna get my music sorted out and figure out the best way to get accurate album art lol

[inner idol]

Chris Pirillo put it bluntly in 2017:

[brittle torrent]

I’m gunna use that quote lol “what in the advertisement is going on”

[inner idol]

This was when Chris was responding to someone talking about avocados and drug cartels in relation to South American "blood avocados", not the stereotype of vegans eating the avocados in terms of occasional shortages in late 2017 in the USA.

Chris mentions to buy ethically sourced avocados, and that avocados are not a vegan-only thing or a millenial thing. Everybody eats them.

Vegans aren't eating any more of them than anybody else.

[brittle torrent]

I hope a lot of the sales of the switch are people trying to jailbreak it

[plain aurora]

4 months ago I brought a folder full of cds.

I keep meaning to rip them and add them to my offline collection. I got the software just need to do the actual work.

[brittle torrent]

What software are you gunna use? If it’ll help you sort the music and get accurate album art then id be happy to look at it too

I use foobar2000 to rip, I don’t remember if it gets album art

[plain aurora]

I’m just waiting for someone to come and collect their marketplace purchase then I’ll run home and look at the program

I’m sure it’s not that it’s a better one that does high frequency rips

[brittle torrent]

High frequency rips?

[plain aurora]

Bit rare

Rate you know the best you can get from the cd

[inner idol]

16-bit

Sampling rate of 44.1khz

[brittle torrent]

So like, ripping as high quality audio as you can from the CD with better error correction, things like that?

Yeah maybe I should rip my CD’s in better quality, all I did was rip them as MP3

It actually might just be better for me to rip highest quality on my PC, then make a bunch of MP3’s to throw on something like my iPod to save on space on that, then make a playlist of songs I actually know/like and throw those on my phone

It’ll take a long time cuz I have about 8000 songs lmao the folder has 8729 files in it but I’m sure a few of that is album art files n stuff

[brittle torrent]

Ye ping me when you have the chance, ill be out walking the dog for a bit

[plain aurora]

Yeah I pretty much asked pilot chat and they gave me the software which is free.
Legal free.

Will ping ya when I do 🙂

[inner idol]

Copilot recommended good software?

Lemme guess... Exact Audio Copy?

[brittle torrent]

Legal free. The best kind of free

[plain aurora]

That that that!

[brittle torrent]

Oh nice lmao

[inner idol]

Nice!@

VWestlife uses it

and I watched him for almost 14 years

I almost types 124 years

[plain aurora]

It’s such a good name I just can’t remember it lol😅

[inner idol]

if only YouTube existed in the 1900s

[brittle torrent]

EAC. Not to be confused with anticheat lol

[plain aurora]

It even when you rip it gives you a option of cd art

Okay I’m getting cold and tired 😂

[brittle torrent]

Sold. Thank you so much lmao

[plain aurora]

Not a problem, I just realised why I stopped.. I need a new external drive

[inner idol]

EAC has been around for over 25 years IIRC

[brittle torrent]

1997 I think

[inner idol]

Yeah, uncompressed CD rips take up a lot of space

[brittle torrent]

1998*

[inner idol]

EAC is as old as me!

Wow

[brittle torrent]

Lmfao niiice, I’m a 2003 model

[inner idol]

I didn't realize 30 days ago was EAC's birthday

Happy belated 27th birthday, EAC!

[brittle torrent]

Happy birthday

Ye I’ll give it a download, so it doesn’t say explicitly if it does on the website but it asks you after the rip if you want to add album art to your rip?

[random trout]

I did this way back in the day, then I re-ripped my entire collection in FLAC using EAC.

[brittle torrent]

Yeah I’m gunna do the same after I walk the dog, a lot of my library is in MP3 but I should remember that I can convert to MP3 for devices that I wanna save space on lol

[plain aurora]

either before or after the rip

[unborn dagger]

I tried using Luke's prompt from earlier and got these...

even tho I've been nice to the AI overlords 😔

[crude sandal]

Screw the clankers

[brittle torrent]

so i went to rip a CD, entered the metadata and then selected to rip uncompressed (i also need to figure out how to select flac instead of wav even though im sure i set that up before) but the metadata doesnt go to the track, is there something i need to do?

[plain aurora]

i think that part needs to be done manually.... let me see

ah this will help ya https://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_Metadata_Options

[brittle torrent]

so does this just put metadata into the filename instead of putting the metadata into the metadata of the file? or is it supposed to create a separate file that has all the song metadata in it?

[plain aurora]

not sure, mine is set up to add the artist and song title

[brittle torrent]

i see. cuz what im trying to see is if it will put in the metadata into the file like if i were to do it here:

[random trout]

Don't think WAV files support metadata. Rip as FLAC and you're good.

[brittle torrent]

oh okay. i couldve sworn i set it to rip as FLAC too so thats something i was wondering, but i was like screw it cuz theyre both lossless lol

[brittle torrent]

okay, im gunna give this another go, i think it rips as a WAV but then converts to FLAC, so lets try this out

it ripped into WAV again, im gunna try making it ask me what format i want it to rip to

[random trout]

You may need to configure an external encoder to get it into FLAC

[brittle torrent]

alrighty ye ive just wrapped my brain around the fact that FLACs are compressed but lossless lol, so im just going through the lossless options here. as for actually ripping them im trying to see if it rips as WAV first and then converts to FLAC. but either way i should be fine with the older FLAC converter that gets downloaded right?

aha! we got it bois n gals

[wanton token]

wtf

i have not asked openai any of those questions (except studies)

[unborn dagger]

[wanton token]

i removed vulnerable as prompt

[brittle torrent]

a dog in a cowboy he!

[wanton token]

certainly a sentence of all time

also ("dataser"."acmantic(cxt:focused")

[wanton token]

also "Generate an imags"

[rotund rain]

what the heck is up with this lol

[plain aurora]

Wonder what data set it’s learning from

[keen isle]

"Usor" "ChatCPT"

[rotund rain]

I wonder that too. I feel like it might have something to do with the system prompts i have configured. Thats what I'd imagine atleast

[surreal sparrow]

The "why are we all here, to suffer" data set, looks like lol

[spice cairn]

was there a gas leak on the wan show set this week... cause they really unhinged this past show

[spice cairn]

i feel like its worse with Linus having braces cause he seems to slur his words more now because of them

so he kinda sounds like hes a little drunk sometimes... even tho hes not and that kinda funny

[frozen agate]

A quick update from NoKi:

Lost access to all of my accounts and probably discord's soon to follow.
Had 2FA, offline passwords that I manually make up & update every 3 months, no VPN or pirated stuff, no malware or suspicious program activity, no funny files or links clicked at so no way to get session tokens...Can't even go on Reddit or YT to write this lol.
Timestamps are gonna be delayed I guess.

Best of luck to NoKi getting their stuff back, thanks for your service in the meantime

[unborn dagger]

Goodness me why is it so anxious lmao

[ebon forge]

is it far fetched that lets say we stream and record the audio through stereo mix and use an AI service to create timestamps?

[tiny nimbus]

wtf, did NoKi get SIM-swapped or something

[inner idol]

I bet it's the session token attacks or 2FA fatigue attacks all over again

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGXaAWbzl5A

Honestly, nothing changes.

[tiny nimbus]

“no way to get session tokens”

[plain aurora]

Woah that is insane

The stress he must be under must be insane

[tiny nimbus]

Did the wide camera on the WAN Show set get knocked off-centre a couple of months ago, and could Dan please pan it back to the right a little at the next opportunity

[delicate tulip]

true

[grizzled coyote]

I am fullly on board with the extra unhinged WAN last night. That was great.

[tiny mauve]

Have you, perchance, had a fair bit of trouble with HA?

Also, is that burnt fish?
Also², stop smoking, your baby needs you.
Also³, cute fake baby.

[tiny mauve]

Sleep deprivation + ADHD is always fun. One shouldn't need alcohol or caffeine to be fun, but with that combo you really don't need it.

[tiny mauve]

Gotta improve those numbers bro

I needed to do very little metadata editing on them, but that's because I like sailing. Yarrgh.

I still edit a lot of its metadata though, but that's because I'm a monster who manages playlists et al. with tags in the files themselves.

[tiny mauve]

As for this, I keep the highest quality files (lossless or not) in a folder, and I convert all of them to opus 192kbps and send them to another folder (or just copy the original, if not lossless).
The HQ folder is streamable via Jellyfin, and the folder with lossy files is syncthing-ed to my phone. A 256GB SD card can handle the entire library after the conversion.

[brittle torrent]

Holy fuck

[gleaming idol]

Oh, hell🙃

[tiny nimbus]

So Ars has an article about Meta getting sued for seeding terabytes of adult content but Warship doesn’t like the P-word in URL slugs, in any case I hope it gets discussed on the next WAN

(Downloading and seeding said content on BitTorrent to train its AI, of all things)

[tiny mauve]

Facebook seeded the p*** but not the books? Absolute pieces of shit

[unborn dagger]

haha get it? it's a thread--like, a chat session

i'll see myself out

[bronze adder]

Where are the cushions they use on the WAN show from?

[crude sandal]

Wickedcushions

[bronze adder]

Thank you, I wish they selled them.

[tiny nimbus]

iirc Wickedcushions sponsored last year’s CES coverage, but the WAN Show versions were a one-off for the show

[brazen osprey]

I feel like Jake is a better cohost cause he actually pushes back against Linus on certain topics

[woeful crescent]

All hosts have their time and place.. except Colton..

[tiny mauve]

Didn't you send this exact message a couple of days/weeks ago?

[crude sandal]

Good, I'm not going crazy, they seem to have deleted the previous one

[crude sandal]

You seem to misunderstand the point of WAN

[tiny nimbus]

Aaaaand they’re gone

[timid ruin]

Maybe he'll be back in a few weeks/months and will let us know why Jake is a better cohost in his opinion.

[spice cairn]

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/05/kids-online-safety-act-will-make-internet-worse-everyone

hey uhh this could effect science as well

not to mention everything else on the internet

[tiny mauve]

affect*

[spice cairn]

buh why you pinging me just to correct my grammar

[flat carbon]

https://www.engadget.com/entertainment/youtube/youtube-is-turning-over-age-verification-to-ai-185634150.html

[plain aurora]

I can see my friends in their 20s been added to a teen account

[spice cairn]

bruh wtf... so like cause i watch a few to many hot wheels casting reviews I GET AGE BLOCKED???

i hate current year

[small portal]

google has my "ID" and they know im "18+" when really im 16

there facial age verification literally took me holding a photo of some old man on google on a tablet lol

[spice cairn]

lol

[small portal]

there is one company that did have my passport though

(roblox (i like shouting at kids over voice chat and i also had a thing with roblox oauth and for your oauth to have good usage limits you needed an id linked))#

[strong ledge]

Yeah im 20 and it said i was 15 lol, didnt realise i was that young xD

[plain aurora]

Tbh people think I’m in my 20s when I’m 40 next year. Photo evidence doesn’t go far

[strong ledge]

Its weird tbh, i thought everyone would like know but im getting like asked where my parent is sometimes

[plain aurora]

Yeah it’s a struggle, I think my friends are younger than they actually are

[strong ledge]

yeah its really weird tho like i have a job, and yet me and my friends are still like teenagers playing around with our phones software and such

[cursive tiger]

why are you*

[timid ruin]

I mean, most people in their 30's are just overgrown teens anyway

[frozen agate]

For those who look younger than they are....
Try facial hair if you are a dude, sorry ladies I got nothing to help you all

[keen isle]

https://x.com/TeamYouTube/status/1950269965925261483

TeamYouTube (@TeamYouTube)

Creators: starting today, we're updating our profanity monetization policy to better align w/ updated standards in advertising & to address your feedback

Strong profanity in the first 7 sec is now eligible to earn full ad revenue

More info & background: https://t.co/vT3mNe1nsg

X · Jul 29, 2025, 6:59 PM

[tiny mauve]

I've been told it makes me look younger bc I can't grow shit.

[frozen agate]

rip

I've been growing my moustache for almost 2 months now and honestly it is coming in nicely, quite happy with it, haha

[tiny mauve]

I just get a bunch of sparse pubes

[frozen agate]

you're meant to grow the hairs on your face, not hot glue them 😉

[tiny mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/bonjour-fake-mustache-gif-5029870

[inner idol]

Hot glue is meant for things like cardboard and glitter and craft stuff, not your face, not GPUs, etc.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rQjitKpJvyQ

The GPU in the Xbox 360 was infamous for overheating and the solder joints can break

Hot glue is not what you should use for stuff like that

[frozen agate]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-milk-ned-flanders-mustache-got-milk-gif-3474875

[frozen agate]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-meme-gif-1852791965001335176

[tiny mauve]

If we're being artistically literal, it is also not meant for books. Fucking modern books with their ridiculous HMA's spines. Even when they're actually sewn and not perfect bound (the absolute worst type of binding, its basically trash, quite ironically), they're still really shit. Like, bind the book so it can fucking lay flat if I want it to. I don't want to keep holding the pages down so it doesn't close on me...

[inner idol]

Hot glue is extremely limited in its usefulness, and this also proves it

Hot glue doesn't work for hair, GPUs, and books.
Sarcastically making book readers who have been burned too many times,
fueling the cynic in some of them when distrust is high,
mocking the enshittification in snarky remarks,
while others have no vent and pure rage,
some go too far and demand a beating,
and the forgotten art of the disclaimer.

Hot glue when used like this is like the abuse of AI to me.

Before AI slop, there was glue slop!

[frozen agate]

I cannot tell, but did I actually trigger someone over mentioning using hot glue on hair as a sarcastic remark?

this seems like the most polite crash out in history, minus the reaction text and the punching gifs...

[inner idol]

"readers" as in book readers, because of the book binding thing

[frozen agate]

im just not sure why that is even relevent to a channel about The WAN Show....

[mellow wedge]

watching last week wan show got me interested, what is your internet cost and speed?
I'm paying $43 canadian dollar/month for 400mbps up and 50mbps down, so in actual usage I get like 50mb/s download speed.

[flat carbon]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/australia-widens-teen-social-media-ban-youtube-scraps-exemption-2025-07-29/

[high kelp]

Like $198 USD for 1 gig and cable TV

[tiny nimbus]

I have two, 500/76 full-fibre with landline for £37/mo and 22/3 satellite for £19/mo

https://mastodon.social/@campuscodi/114938405719303949

Catalin Cimpanu (@[e-mail])

This cyberattack on a Luxembourg state-owned internet and postal service provider caused an insanely large outage on Friday:

-40 flights were delayed after airline staff had to manually check luggage after airport systems went down
-Residents had to visit fire and police stations to request aid
-Home and work internet and phone connectivity were out for hours

luxtimes.lu/luxembourg/post-lu…

Mastodon · Jul 29, 2025, 8:28 PM

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.404media.co/uk-users-need-to-post-selfie-or-photo-id-to-view-reddits-r-israelcrimes-r-ukrainewarfootage/

[tiny nimbus]

https://mastodon.green/@gerrymcgovern/114942092480271439

Gerry McGovern (@[e-mail])

Texas AI centers guzzle 463 million gallons, now residents are asked to cut back on showers

"Amidst severe drought in Texas, a clash emerges as AI data centers consume millions of gallons of water daily. Microsoft's Stargate campus leads this surge, raising environmental concerns. Data centers in Central Texas used 463 million gallons in 2023-24 alone, enough for tens of thousands of homes."

economictimes.indiatimes.com/n…

We are only at the very beginning of all this.

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Mastodon.green · Jul 30, 2025, 12:05 PM

[bronze adder]

This is crazy to me. Wasn't it last week where they tried to loosen the Ai Regulations when it seems like there never were any.

[spice cairn]

imagine being told to stop taking a shower because some asshole billionaire's data center needs that clean water

like... what the fuck are we even doing here world

[cursive tiger]

brilliant, have fun breaking the education system ig

[tiny nimbus]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/07/google-tool-misused-to-scrub-tech-ceos-shady-past-from-search/

[bronze adder]

This whole week has been a nightmare. Nothing good is happening, with IDs being required everywhere

Age verification coming to every single thing in the US is a nightmare:

It’s reminding me of the nine most terrifying words in the English Language “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help”

It will only be a matter of time before you have to get a new ID similar to the real ID in the states but now it’s a digital ID

[cursive tiger]

specifically a license for breathing

[random trout]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-3525115

"Hey, you got a permit for those guns?"
"I've got your permit right here..." pew pew pew

[hearty wave]

I was watching the WAN vod (didn’t catch it live this week) and tried out the prompt that generates a picture of you. Needless to say, I think it might have gotten a little bit confused

[flat carbon]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/after-the-uk-online-age-verification-is-landing-in-the-eu

[shadow beacon]

U know how Linus mentioned changing names at some point, he should change it to latenus

[woeful crescent]

Sadly its Linuth for now..

[shadow beacon]

We'll sort off, that bug is mostly patched in the latest patch notes they removed the bite blocks in the front lmao

[brittle moon]

YOUTUBE UNCENSORED - WAN Show August 1, 2025

[shadow beacon]

YouTube now allowing swearing in first 7 seconds W

[round ermine]

Preshow live

[turbid shoal]

lmfao

[formal monolith]

I hate vaguely mentioning something I think I know what the main word there talking about but no idea what the other worse words are

[round ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-bucket-team-fortress-tf-gif-15812649

[white fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hot-chili-peppers-bucket-bucket-man-buckets-dance-gif-1507159980429632196

[woeful crescent]

Dan failed his age check..

[vernal elk]

https://tenor.com/view/blubby-maurice-cattywampus-maurice-blubby-cattywampus-bucket-gif-21369115

[lucid socket]

Bru my fucking YouTube channel and google account needed to get age verified and the hole account is disabled and I needed a credit card or an ID to reaviate which I don’t have a ID or credit card and I am 13 and didn’t give me the suggestion for parental control so I put my mom’s credit card with permission and solved it btw my mom made a hole argument about it 😭

I hate fucking google 🤬🤬🤬

[plain aurora]

I got so excited for another unhinged uncensored WAN like before

[vernal elk]

The account I log into my YouTube with is so old I had to get an invite to set it up. If YouTube asks me for verification, I’ll dump my YouTube premium immediately

[lucid socket]

I don’t have YouTube premium I have a YouTube channel and if I delete my account I lose all my subscribers

[plain aurora]

There’s a video of me on YT… I don’t look like a teenager

[timid ruin]

I mean, I'm pretty sure the idea was that accounts that show an activity that would prove its owner not to be underage (such as being created long enough that makes it impossible to be owned by a child) are being verified in their own rights. I also think they're connected to a Google account, which normally has some amount of age verification data connected to them, even without payment information.
Back in 2007 I created a secondary FB account for silly reasons, but it has enough social activity and data that I have never had to verify the bogus person behind it. It's been sitting ducks for ages, never cared enough to delete, but it's like passing all system checks and FB at this point just considers it legit, whereas about a quarter of my friends and acquaintances had to, at some point, verify their identity over the years (especially when married women had to change their names which can no longer happen without ID verification - which is why I have never updated my actual account to match my updated last name)

[trim obsidian]

You have premium so you've already doxxed yourself - no need to ask for what they already have.

[stark quiver]

lmao going exactly 50/50 is amazing

It went 50/50 until dan toon it down at 150/150 votes lol

LOL

[mighty pawn]

I didnt know they went to a coldplay concert lmao

[opaque briar]

Hey! Is there a list of links somewhere? I would like to find that chinese AI driving video

[brittle moon]

there is not, but dan sent it in chat when they were talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcJnNbm-jUI

[opaque briar]

Thanks! I managed to miss Dan's link

[turbid shoal]

audio isssues

[lucid socket]

Bru 💀

[old blade]

he seems sad about it

[lucid socket]

Crazy 💀

Like all the hate was for nothing

But when Linus mentioned a is making a OF in a video

[inner idol]

Doxxed yourself and given yourself death threats as well

In other words... Gamergate never dies/stays

Fate/stay night never dies

[plain aurora]

So glad I waited till it was discussed on wan, I was going to watch that movie because Linus was in it lol

[flat carbon]

https://kotaku.com/mastercard-denies-pressuring-steam-to-censor-nsfw-games-2000614393

mastercard straight up lying and valve calling them on it

Updated: 8/1/2025 4:18 p.m. ET: In a statement to Kotaku, a spokesperson for Valve said that while Mastercard did not communicate with it directly, concerns did come through payment processor and banking intermediaries. They said payment processors rejected Valve’s current guidelines for moderating illegal content on Steam, citing Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7.

“Mastercard did not communicate with Valve directly, despite our request to do so,” Valve’s statement sent over email to Kotaku reads. “Mastercard communicated with payment processors and their acquiring banks. Payment processors communicated this with Valve, and we replied by outlining Steam’s policy since 2018 of attempting to distribute games that are legal for distribution. Payment processors rejected this, and specifically cited Mastercard’s Rule 5.12.7 and risk to the Mastercard brand.”

[spice oak]

that rule needs to go

[trim obsidian]

Yep. Payment processors should have no say in transactions unless a court ruling has been involved.

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theverge.com/news/717649/google-goo-gl-url-shortener-links-backtrack

[random trout]

See I find this funny / ironic. On one hand, I can understand not wanting to be associated with dangerously illegal things (drugs, weapons, terrorism, etc.), but thinking your brand will be damaged because I bought a smut game or magazine with your credit card will damage your brand? "LOL" Trying to control how I use a credit card for payments actually makes me think less of their brand and want to ditch them. But hey Mastercard and VISA, if that's what you want, be my guest...

[flat carbon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

in action

CC companies cave in to whiny fringe religious group that was no doubt pestering them and now suffering the blow back with a much much larger number of people bitching at them now

[random trout]

Yup. It's like when companies have a data breach... Sure, if you reveal too much, you might expose your secrets, or worse, sheer incompetence. But if you share too little about the breach or outright lie, I'm never ever going to use your services again.

[woeful crescent]

https://fortune.com/2025/08/02/tesla-autopilot-crash-jury-trial-verdict-243-million-shock-waves-industry/

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/ObviousRises/status/1951788933383348651?t=VoDnMs8ncLI9aZYS-9X7jg&s=33

MR. OBVIOUS (@ObviousRises)

BREAKING: Zoomers cannot adjust their Nvidea graphics cards settings on their gaming PCs anymore because they aren't 18 thanks to the Online Safety Act.

X · Aug 2, 2025, 11:35 PM

[novel cedar]

Use Nvidia Control Panel like we did in the good old days

[spice cairn]

gotta get them game ready drivers tho

[plain aurora]

What the cat? that is actually insane

there shouldn't be a age limit on drivers.

My first PC i was 11

[rain girder]

that Grow A Garden thing is really making me sad
like
Grow A Garden being the most popular game in the moment, out of all games?
i have tried the game yesterday to see what was crazy about it, and it's really nothing
like it's just not that good of a game, and there are many similar games on Roblox with a similar goal
I don't have anything wrong with Roblox, It's a good platform, but that game doesn't deserve the hype. It's really sad to say that Grow A Garden at a point in time was more popular than AAA games like GTA V.

[plain aurora]

It’s money, people don’t have the money to invest in the games or want to invest money so they go for games with less resistance. I agree with you, I pay for the ones I play and invest in the systems to play in.

[rain girder]

Oh yeah, didn't think of that.

[plain aurora]

Esp if the majority are teenagers playing on mobile

[spice cairn]

https://items.gog.com/freedomtobuy/index.html

[plucky apex]

WAN approved listing

[plain aurora]

Some of those games are surely at least 16+ 😆

[plain aurora]

Sold to me 🤣

Tbh it does sound like a good basic daily driver

[cursive tiger]

lol i just visited the page 10 seconds before it ended

[spice cairn]

noic

[cursive tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QsOXGVP36qI don't tell luke

[inner idol]

It's the same thing that happened with Patreon and Jordan Peterson.

With the same Streisand effect in action

MasterCard and Visa are in the same position as MasterCard and Visa over six years ago

and the same position as Vox Media back then

treating Steam and itch.io today as if it was Patreon back then

Suppose that makes those smut games the same thing as Jordan Peterson by the basic common denominator of history repeating itself?

Where's a Kyle & Lyle when you need them?
I smell that this could lead to renewed YouTube content copyright ID claim strike nonsense, roping Nilay Patel back into a sequel that nobody asked for.

[random trout]

I can hear Nilay sighing heavily over humanity's stupidity. 🤣 Every few podcasts they cover a topic that I can tell just makes the lawyer side of them go "yikes, not this again - have we learned nothing?"

[inner idol]

Exactly.

Like, is there going to be yet another peh-dough-file ring to follow that and make comments on a video get the video demonetized again?
Is YouTube gonna be slapped with COPPA again by the end of the year?

I truly feel that this could set a precedent of history repeating itself non-stop so much that 2025 is just doing a "Greatest Hits" of the worst of 2019 and 2020 for no reason at all.

Speaking of, I wonder if LMG ever bought the paiwan.ca and jordanplane.com domains after all these years...

or more accurately, Floatplane for jordanplane, and Private Internet Access for paiwan.

We don't need more Streisand effects creating a hunt for the 2019 flops and why we should learn the right lesson from them.

Humanity is supposed to learn from the past mistakes, but usually doesn't learn,
and when they do, humanity sometimes learns the wrong lessons instead.

[random trout]

I just hope someone somewhere with some amount of power and respect calls out all this crap before we reach a point of "error: phone locked. allotted time bank used up. To unlock, please drink one Mountain Dew verification can."

[plain aurora]

Honestly as a full grown adult i am getting seriously concerned about the direction things are going, we are going too far one way instead of a great balance. Too much power is being handed over. GPUs shouldn't require a age requirement to update. AI shouldn't be used to decide a persons age. Payment providers are suddenly having a "faith" and choosing what platforms can and can't sell. What's next? LTT start selling knock off discord clothing?

one day we are going to buy something and we would need to prove beyond ID that is legit, that we are truly worthy of that thing.

[flat carbon]

https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/03/mastercard-denies-pressuring-game-platforms-valve-tells-a-different-story/

[tiny nimbus]

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:cak4klqoj3bqgk5rj6b4f5do/post/3lvlrcdbtic2s

Mike Masnick (@mmasnick.bsky.social)

This whole story is insane. Tesla apparently did everything it could to avoid providing the data it had about its Autopilot crash. This is just a snippet and there's a lot more. electrek.co/2025/08/04/t...

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[real stag]

none of that counts as hindering of discovery?

[high thistle]

Tape to Tape is on sale on Steam

[mossy socket]

Go getit.

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.techdirt.com/2025/08/04/didnt-take-long-to-reveal-the-uks-online-safety-act-is-exactly-the-privacy-crushing-failure-everyone-warned-about/

[flat carbon]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Desperate-measures-to-save-Intel-US-reportedly-forcing-TSMC-to-buy-49-stake-in-Intel-to-secure-tariff-relief-for-Taiwan.1079424.0.html

[frozen agate]

This is the most Wendell thing Wendell ever didn't Wendell

[tiny nimbus]

lol Amazon’s take on War Of The Worlds has a 0% score on Rotten Tomatoes

[plain aurora]

Hahaha they have been pushing me to play it on my tv Home Screen etc etc. I know they are desperate to get views on it.

[inner idol]

Review bombing, perhaps?

I mean, The Emoji Movie started at a 0% on RT, but then climbed up to 6%.

[plain aurora]

The emoji movie isn’t that bad but isn’t that great I would say it’s more 10-30% at best

[inner idol]

I wonder what War of the Worlds 2025 would climb up to after this...

[plain aurora]

Great background noise

[inner idol]

11%? 16%?

Maybe the 9% that Fantastic Four got a decade ago?

[twilit spear]

Is there a whale lan chat?

[jolly oar]

there's a discord but I don't think it's available yet

ie you can join but there aren't any channels to post in

[twilit spear]

Thanks!

[keen isle]

<@&750150305383186585>

Alright, thank you

[tiny nimbus]

🫠

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-05/sonos-acknowledges-very-low-number-of-overheating-roam-speakers

[plain aurora]

[tiny nimbus]

Let Me Google Archive That For You https://archive.vn/gIlNU

[plain aurora]

Woahhhh I’m surprised they are not legally required to do a recall. Very.

Sounds like some protection that would have cost them nothing to add was missed out on.

[plain aurora]

My sennheiser headphones got hit with a power strike while i was charging them. Abit melted but still working well (i got them tested of course!)

[drifting creek]

Planning on buying a desk pad and a merch message. how does that work? Do i do it through ltt store or floatplane.

also any recommendations on pads? looking at the WAN show one.

[tiny mauve]

Through lttstore. Just add something to your cart and during the WAN show (or any other livestreams) and when you go to your cart there should be a text box for you to write a merch message. Then just complete the purchase and Dan will respond to your message or curate it for Linus and Luke.

[spice cairn]

https://share.google/dOWmWSLm11GV78qsy

uhh

yo the fuck is with the EU lately... they've been cool up untill now

who... who let thee Americans touch the EU

Annnnnnd theres the rub

_(\

"someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN" ffs getting tired of this kinda bs

[tiny mauve]

They've been trying to get this through for a while

[spice cairn]

it seems like its been gaining traction

[tender prism]

Soooo Dennis appeared on a Jeremy Ethier video. Is he still with LTT? Haven't seem him in a while

[tiny mauve]

Nope

[spice cairn]

[tiny mauve]

He left a little while ago

[tender prism]

Thanks! I didn't know that

[tiny mauve]

A little before Alex and Andy iirc

[flat carbon]

https://thisweekinvideogames.com/news/zoom-platform-games-payment-processor-rules-could-lead-to-further-delistings/

A few days after ZOOM Platform posted its statement, a representative told GamingOnLinux that they expected delistings to grow, and that, in discussions at ZOOM Platform, titles like “Grand Theft Auto, Duke Nukem, and Saints Row were described as potentially at risk.”

“In the course of our discussions with the payment processors, going over the content contained within games on our store, including the Duke Nukem franchise, we were made aware of loosely defined language, rules from credit card companies, that could include Duke Nukem’s portrayal of women.”

“When we pressed for more details, given that such language cast a wide net, we were told that Grand Theft Auto, and similar titles such as Saints Row, could very well fit this description.”

Regarding its initial published statement, ZOOM Platform said that “with the advent of the UK’s Online Safety Act, the potentiality for censorship is vastly increasing. We simply wanted to share this information, so that the public would be informed.”

[spice cairn]

[inner idol]

Someone send this to Clint Basinger of LGR, quick!

The fact that ZOOM Platform is basically becoming yet another Tumblr with the payment processor shenanigans of Patreon is showing how the late 2010s is just being spewed on us over and over again, because we never ever learn.

I smell another Vox Media/Verge copyright strike, another peh-dough-file YouTube ring, another blitzchung, COVID-25, and just a repeat of the worst of 2019-2020-onwards as it keeps looping and looping every 5-6 years

"Everything repeats over and over again. No one learns anything, because no one lives long enough to see the pattern, I guess."
-Marceline, Adventure Time: Stakes, 2015

[spice cairn]

hey maybe this news might make it to WAN show...

kinda upset that they didn't talk about the ich.io stuff when that news happened

[inner idol]

They should've talked about it in the same style they talked about the Patreon Jordan Peterson stuff when that news happened long ago in January 2019

[tiny nimbus]

It’s even worse than I thought https://youtu.be/2fhLdREPEF4

[ornate quest]

might be an interesting wan show topic, Canadian government taking a huge L on the environmental protection front https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bzTacdlpR8

[woeful crescent]

LTT has brought up Edison Motors many many times 🙂 what’s one more? 🙂

[ornate quest]

and it means more poeple will know about it and some change might actaully happen

[shadow beacon]

If only wan was at this time 😔

[inner idol]

The Canadian Government might be doing this red tape blocking thing as their take on the Vox YouTube copyright strikes from 2019, especially with the timing being so soon after Steam and itch.io having their Patreon moment, where payment processors look at them as if NSFW games were the Jordan Peterson of those platforms.

I'm sure the Streisand effect is going to happen again like what happened years ago with Vox.

[ornate quest]

the nsfw thing might have just been solved

trump just signed a eo "illegalizing" it

[inner idol]

which echoes other eo's like with social media in 2020

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr9fNW1Ng2k

[brittle moon]

I Agree With Trump - WAN Show August 8, 2025

[round ermine]

Immediately take that title out of context.

Make it about the most heinous Trump quote you can think of

[pale canyon]

You don’t gotta hand it to ‘em

[olive bronze]

does anyone know where luke is broadcasting from?

[abstract mist]

can someone please tell Linus to flip that secret lab head pillow? it's upside down for ages now

literally unwatchable

[tiny mauve]

He knows it. That's why it's still upside down

[burnt furnace]

uhhh what

[high thistle]

Have they talked about Whale LAN yet?

[olive bronze]

negative

[brittle torrent]

edmonton represent lol i was so excited to see him there

Linus Sebastian not gay confirmed lol

[flat carbon]

udio has much better examples of AI music then that

[olive bronze]

not admittedly. not today, at least.

[vast mason]

How can I send a message for the guys to respond to?

[brittle moon]

merch messages. in the cart on lttstore, you can write a message that will be sent to them after you check out. its only there when theyre live

they might respond to it, or more likely dan will write a text reply that appears at the bottom of the screen

[woeful crescent]

So Linus used Altavista, but did he use altavista.digital.com?

[brittle moon]

(about the instagram story thing)

[simple mango]

I decided to donate Rp20,000 to Linus. He didn't even notice 😭

[stark quiver]

It's common knowledge he doesn't do super chats or twitch bits, he has a talking point about merch messages literally every show

[crude sandal]

Superchats are ignored because the YouTube dashboard doesn't show them properly and YouTube hasn't fixed it in years

Twitch stuff is also ignored because twitch sucks

[random trout]

They don't do Superchats - they do Merch Messages, where you can send in a message if you buy something from LTTStore.com during the WANShow.

[arctic fossil]

What plugin lets linus zoom in on webpages like that?

[stark quiver]

touchscreen, just pinch and zoom

[arctic fossil]

oh