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tacit pebble
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In a world where state actors are actively encouraging us to start using encrypted services, it is depressing to see a country that typically makes better moves than us Americans in terms of privacy lead an attack on our privacy.

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No one should sugar coat it and call it as it is, an attack on privacy

woeful crescent
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The hope is that removing the encyption has the same effect on pushback that Linus wanted to happen by not selling iphones at all..

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I doubt it will, but Apple is good at marketing, them telling every iOS user that your Gov't actions just made you less secure would have an effect, if they decided to go on the offensive..

tacit pebble
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Meanwhile the Feds in America have been actively putting out disclaimers encouraging American citizens to use encrypted services and engage in privacy practice referencing the recent Chinese-state linked hack on the US Treasury

tacit pebble
woeful crescent
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Also lets see how the push for encryption continues in the next few years in the US..

tacit pebble
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Yeah, not to be political but I severely doubt this administration gives a flying jay about privacy

woeful crescent
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I think they care a lot about privacy.. which is why a bunch of randos have access to just about everything.. so happy to not be American atm..

tacit pebble
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but thats what is beautiful about the internet. Open source encrypted services will always exist even if they are "regulated". Someone, somewhere will still develop it

tacit pebble
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Don’t ask me where it was originally, but I saw a snippet that essentially summarizes as “Dennis did a really good job up charging sponsors for high production ad reads for Channel Super Fun, so we put him in charge of upcharging sponsors for high production ad reads everywhere else”

tacit pebble
timid ruin
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I highly doubt the EU would ever do it, considering that currently there's an active transitioning for private information to have encrypted means to be accessed and every such information online is now required an MFA , if it didn't already have one. A lot of countries are currently rolling out govmnt digital solutions this year for this exact reason. Plus GDPR is both an EU and local government level law around here. The UK has never adapted it as a local thing, they just followed it as part of the EU until...well, we all know the history.

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So yeah, I'm not too worried about that hypothetical

woeful crescent
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In the last decade or so the world has changed enough that I no longer make optimistic assumptions..

timid ruin
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It's more of an educated deduction based on current events than just an optimistic assumption shroog

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But to each their own

tacit pebble
tacit pebble
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That and all the antitrust focus they have put forward too.

dense panther
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Who has written about the development perspective and self sighting of PUBG

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tacit pebble
timid ruin
# tacit pebble Yeah. I agree 100%. I am not British so I have no stake other than: it looks lik...

Fun fact: I was living in Leeds at the time. Next day at work all the British people looked at me with pity and some asked "aaawww, what will you do now?". And I smiled and said "what I'm not the one who is in trouble, I actually have options to go to". And then they went "oh, I guess it's true...".
But my brother and his family have a secondary UK citizenship, and they were looking forward to eventually move back, I'm not so sure about their outlook now mrllamaFeelsBadMan

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timid ruin
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But it also gives both of us a lot of perspective

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Yeah, mosh pit seating in the US is not a fun ride at the moment -_-

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Country spent a quarter-century wrapping itself in self-affirmation about how good of a job it did last millennium and seems to have backed right into the mistakes it was praising itself for dodging

tacit pebble
# timid ruin Yeah, it doesn't sound fun. My partner is American, but I asked him back when we...

I would say most North Americans are relatively under travelled, at least not outside of NA itself. Most Americans who have travelled to other continents generally do hold the opinion America is behind in a lot of aspects in terms of the day-to-day quality of life amenities. I get SO much flack for saying it though. e.g. Our car centric infrastructure hurts us and we would be better for it to have more options other than vehicles, but that opinion is often met with hostility and misinformation about the real world application of these things in day-to-day life.

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To me it speaks volumes to the amount of control American corporations in the narratives and opinions that are held here in the States. We would much rather just say "We are the greatest country in the world" and plug our ears when something is factually better in another country

tacit pebble
# last current Country spent a quarter-century wrapping itself in self-affirmation about how go...

Fr, some of the people giving creed to the idea we are somehow better than everyone else feels stuck in the 80s. I WANT America to be better, but that would mean giving way to social safety nets and investing taxes into things the individualist American would decry that it is somehow communism when it has nothing to do with that. the McCarthyism still runs strong in America, even if we dont want to admit it

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McCarthyism is a component of it, but generic American exceptionalism “we’re #1 because we say we are” is not just red scare leftovers.

timid ruin
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I think the main issue lies in the misunderstanding how the USA isn't really a country in the traditional sense, more of a federation. States do have vague liberties (but some are very firmly defined) and in general it all ends up being super confusing and often even controversial (honestly the whole DC vs Maryland situation is simply mind-blowing for me). So technically when you're moving states, which isn't uncommon, you're also adapting to a slightly different system every time. Yet you're also expected to treat it all as a single entity, since, well, in a sense it is.

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But yeah, it's a bit more complicated, than just treating it as a single country, yet it is also vastly different from how the EU operates

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tacit pebble
novel cedar
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Yes, we do not go to other countries nearly as often as our European friends

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But also, we have practically every climate within our borders

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novel cedar
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Remnants of so many cultures throughout our states

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You won’t meet a Celt in Europe

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But we have still have Native American tribes you can talk to today

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novel cedar
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Oh no, absolutely

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But while this is by no means their glory days

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We’re not sending them on trails of tears anymore

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So when that’s your baseline

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I wouldn’t say making life harder

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But yes, we do have many more obstacles than their should

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*there

tacit pebble
novel cedar
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Yup

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I also feel that America, being the destination of so many for so long, enjoys the ability to host so many sites and destinations inside her that to explore “distant lands thousands of miles away” is fulfilled by cities on her own shore

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novel cedar
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Yes, British universities outlast even the Aztecs and their capital

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I certainly value traveling and exploring cultures

tacit pebble
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tbf you could attribute that to European colonialism having destroyed the Aztecs and not that Aztecs actually disappeared or werent good enough to keep existing

novel cedar
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Oh, I meant to phrase that differently

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Oxford, I believe

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Celts in Europe are a bit weird in the sense of it’s not a well-defined ethnic group, but more just a glue of common spoken language. Like, Ancient Britons are Celts. “Celt” is more like Native American than Navajo, in terms of umbrella

novel cedar
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Is older than the Aztec society itself

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But when a family from North Dakota wants to explore a new place and travel, you have Cape Canaveral, Detroit, LA, NYC, the Texas metro

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And of course, most of the popular media (by revenue) features these cities, showcases their landmarks

tacit pebble
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Ahhh I see, sorry i am not meaning to be confrontational, but yeah in general, I guess I am spiteful of the American exceptionalism. There are components, like earlier, McCarthyism is one I feel is more prevalent than many would give credit for. Another is that Americans are not travelled. Like you mentioned, we could just go visit other American cities, but a city on the West Coast is marginally different and mostly culturally the same in say, Washington, take Seattle for example, than Dallas. Sure, Dallas is very highway centric and not nearly as green as Seattle, but at the end of the day, the Starbucks and McDonalds are up the street and the oversized Walmart Parkinglot without a native plant in sight are up the street whether you are in Rural Appalachia or in suburbian sprawl American generic city #47

novel cedar
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I agree Texas is a highway hellscape, and that Seattle is more similar to NYC than London is to Moscow

last current
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I tend to find myself pointing out this fun fact a lot - Arizona’s almost the size of Poland, and it and New Mexico together are bigger than Spain. xD

novel cedar
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But also, that’s what happens when you share a language with everyone

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Like Dublin and London

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(I feel as though the majority of Dublin does NOT speak Gaelic)

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It’s just different enough, with unique sites and sounds

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To be a fun place to visit, go explore, and learn

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But also has enough familiarity to you and you share a sense of camaraderie that you’re all Americans

tacit pebble
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I honestly think a larger component is that our social safety nets are disgustingly bad. Sure, our size and culture facilitate a homogenous experience where it makes it difficult to see other perspectives. But I think the expendable income, despite higher wages, I would place many bets, is lower than say the average western European. I see that metric used a lot, American wages being higher on average on a technicality than our Western Euro or East Asian democratic counterparts, but what I would bet is that expendable income plays a huge role due to Americans having to individually front the cost of many of these safety nets.

novel cedar
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I feel as though it’s a balance, that a mix of both is good

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Our expendable income is greater, by the numbers

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But also, our houses are bigger

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Our cars too (and more dangerous)

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Our electronics are cheaper

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Especially adjusted for PPP

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But, of course it depends if you want to be part of the Norwegian Oil Fund or get a 5090 for a few hundred dollars less adjusted for purchasing power

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Electronics being cheaper is probably subject to change.

novel cedar
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This is very true

tacit pebble
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e.g. the expectation to lease or even buy a $20k, $30k+ car fresh out of high school or have a family that could afford that ability. If we want to go to university, we HAVE to have access to a vehicle which in no world is a cheap expense. Most families require multiple functioning cars to be able to function and earn income. I found being in European language classes that my European classmates were WAY more mature when I was in high school, like independent, had trade or vocational training lined up, were already travelling on a weekend basis where my American peers were relying on their parents to do EVERYTHING. I found the same travelling in East Asia. Generalizations set aside, those kids are way more independent overall. The same things I said that were true about the euro students and what I saw being in Asia were true. Self reliant. Able to participate in activites, not rely on parents for everything.

novel cedar
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As for university and public transportation, any big city college will get you by just fine

This also doesn’t invalidate your argument though

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Phoenix begs to differ

tacit pebble
novel cedar
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I’m Northeast, so I’m SPOILED by American standards for public transit

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I will live and die by the subway

tacit pebble
novel cedar
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Alas, NYC subway has to run 24/7/365

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No downtime

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No breaks

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So, I respect Tokyo’s capability

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But we do a lot with round the clock service

tacit pebble
# novel cedar I don’t know how far we can make judgements on this. Since Ancient Greece the ca...

Oh we can't. But the facilitation of education and vocational training does not seem up to par, and I cannot imagine that these skills are suddenly going to appear. Last I checked, a lot of industry in the US has been continously outsourced and what we have had has been on the chopping block of solvency multiple times. E.g. Obama having to bail out American car companies after the crash of 08, which SAVED the American car industry outright.

novel cedar
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Also, while I am from NYC, I do understand this is not representative for the not 322mil Americans who don’t live in NYC

novel cedar
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But yes

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GM and Chrysler did

tacit pebble
# novel cedar Also, while I am from NYC, I do understand this is not representative for the no...

Yeah, its systemic. And ofc I know that NY's is world class, even if it does appear to be old and behind the times, NY had Europeans help with it and actively still do. I clarified I cant speak for the east coast because I have never been. Just that, people who have experienced both Tokyo's and NY's, in general would probably still side with Tokyo at the end of the day. I would say, Kansai region is a closer analogy though to NY. It's an older system, it isnt nearly as complex, and the populations are more closely alligned. Just as an aside/beside the point. genuinely curious how people would compare both

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Maybe this is different in Europe but it surprised me just how little market penetration the US auto industry has in SEA. You’d think something would be popular out there but it seems like that stopped being a thing even in AUS when Holden kicked the bucket. I’d see signs advertising Stellantis stuff but no one driving them in Taiwan. Teslas were common though.

tacit pebble
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SEA is a complex region and a lot of geopolitical factors at stake there. I can see Taiwan, for example, having interest in the American products but Thailand has a lot of factors to not be in favor of western product.

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But maybe the autoindustry thing comes down to jsut the sheer size of our vehicle preference here. We dont make very many small vehicles

novel cedar
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And the small vehicles American companies make

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They don’t sell here!!!

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I yearn for the day

tacit pebble
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me and you both

novel cedar
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Ford sells their European work vans

last current
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All I want for Christmas is a Ford Yaris xD

novel cedar
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In the states

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Yup

tacit pebble
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tacit pebble
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I could easily tie that back into our conversation of exceptionalism here and how our car industry has convinced nearly every American another highway is the method and not, say, yknow, a domestic rail system that isnt solely for freight

tacit pebble
novel cedar
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We do freight rail very well here

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And the northeast does have passenger lines

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NEC, took it to work every day for a few years

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All owned by Amtrak

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Is wonderful

tacit pebble
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Yes. I do appreciate that about the US. I went on a deepdive about the transition to the highway only system we prefer here. I remember reading metrics like 100,000k+ miles of rail have remained abandoned since the 1900s

novel cedar
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This is true

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But also, we have to remember what killed the rail industry

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Building 100,000 miles worth of rail worth abandoning

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But the 1920s, so much of the country OVERBUILT on rail

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That it killed the industry as a whole

tacit pebble
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I think more factors killed the industry, but yeah. I agree. I recall reading that the car lobby had lobbied the federal regulating bodies and that played into the death of the passenger rail industry. Taken with a huge grain of salt again, because I am not as educated as I would like to be on this particular topic, but I do remember having read that the margins for operation of passenger rail were so high that a lot of companies just stopped doing it due to said regulations

novel cedar
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I don’t think it was just the car lobby

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Increased regulations on all industries were felt across the country

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We were soaring high for decades on the fruits of the Industrial Revolution

tacit pebble
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(the Interstate Commerce Commission, that is the body I was thinking of)

novel cedar
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And then had to figure out how to make everything safe now that it was invented

tacit pebble
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From Wikipedia "With the proliferation of a system of highways built and owned by the state, operated at a loss and were not restricted by the requirement to make a profit, trucks began to eat away freight traffic and automobiles (and later airplanes, which were also subsided by the state via airports, air traffic control, etc.) devoured the passenger traffic."

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That is tragic.

novel cedar
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Agreed

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But also, I don’t think I’d trust a United Airlines air traffic control

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Net neutrality but with 300 lives at risk every 6 minutes

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And now, passenger rail is state owned effectively by one entity, Amtrak

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Yes, they are required to make a profit

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But

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It happened eventually

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PANYNJ owns and operates all sorts of rail infrastructure in the NYC metro area

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And they’re a government entity

tacit pebble
# novel cedar But also, I don’t think I’d trust a United Airlines air traffic control

I am not sure I totally understand. I place trust in the FAA, since, yknow, those guys HAVE kept American industry very safe. Albeit, there is misinformation out there, last year was not statistically different with the exception of the Blackhawk incident than the previous 10 years for example. But JFK definitely does throughput like 300 people every 6 minutes. I think I am misunderstanding the United Airlines point

novel cedar
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With your comment about subsidies from the state for ATC

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And airports being run by governments rather than companies

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I wouldn’t trust companies to run an airport

tacit pebble
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Ahhh ahh, okay, I see. An operator that is motivated by profit is not going to be safe as a government operator who's sole job is to keep people safe

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FAA isn’t a company, it’s a government agent and we’re seeing in real time the last couple months what happens when you start to kneecap it

tacit pebble
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And the reason airlines like UA can be safe is because the government demands that they do, lest they meet some hefty regulations

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I understand now what you meant by that

novel cedar
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Yeah

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I don’t think I can really fundamentally change hearts and minds over discord

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But just

tacit pebble
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1000% with you. The FAA layoffs makes my blood boil

novel cedar
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I saw the well traveled Americans think we’re behind comment and had some thoughts on the matter

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I think we do a lot of things very, very, very well, and simultaneously have room for improvement

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Hopefully my points have been reasonable

tacit pebble
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I understand that the issue is for sure a very much more complex issue than what I had portrayed at face value but I still hold at heart that we are behind. I experienced better in countries whos economies we consider to be worse or at least not the size as ours perform better for there people, even in blatant oligarch forward capitalist countries that make even American capitalism look like the good guy (South Korea) and still do better in terms of public amenities

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But your approach is much more friendly than calling me a dirty commie, which...I have been called this month...

novel cedar
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tacit pebble
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I have always called my self a little more centrist, center left, if you will. Since I feel safe mentioning that here. But I have felt ousted and even made out to be an enemy by my right wing counter parts, even in by my own childhood best friends. The kind of misinformation and the propaganda being spun against my point of view does make me feel incredibly displaced in my own country

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I do find the 2am bunch-of-disgruntled-Americans-grumbling chats to be cathartic when they don’t devolve into slapfights. I think it’s fair to remember that in polite conversations you aren’t looking to “win”

tacit pebble
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I have been called a Jew shill by someone I would never expect it from since the coming of this administration (I am not btw), I have been called a dirty commie by a non-friend right leaning acquiantance, and I have been given the cold shoulder by my own friends for my views since this administration. SO I cant help but feel that there is media overtaking of certain points of views that is convincing people of these things on enmasse

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novel cedar
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My pleasure

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I’m just a Democrat who fits firmly within the bounds of contemporary politics

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Make the country better, give Americans more freedom to be things and do things, give other countries more freedom to be things and do things

tacit pebble
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My best friend said my views aren't all that valid since, my education from university was "bought out by the woke agenda" and cited, I kid you not, Joe Rogan

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SO that is the bar I feel like I have to work with these days. I just think this adminstration is incredibly hostile. I don't think right leaning people in general are hostile like that, but I DO feel that the hostility IS permeating the right point of view in a clear manner that is progressively more hostile over time rather than getting better like I expected going into this administration

tacit pebble
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The right wing “sphere” sees the 2nd Trump admin as a revenge tour so it doesn’t surprise me the hostility has gotten worse, not better

novel cedar
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No country ever can be, there’s always a new high to pursue

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Always a new civil rights bill to sign

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A new way to recognize gender minority marriages

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A new way to help countries less fortunate than us

tacit pebble
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Mmm like slashing huminitarian AID 😭

novel cedar
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And, if rather than absolutes we’re talking about ranking, we definitely have come out on top in certain points

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If I were a baby boomer, there’d be no better place to live than here during my generation’s youth to middle age

tacit pebble
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Freight is one of those, I used to believe was awful but it is specifically passenger rail with a few exceptions. I think we still, in general, do offer great civil liberties. I feel proud that my Korean partner's parents were able to come here and build their American dream buy running a sustainable business here. Things like that, which, last I checked, western European countries are typically not known for their welcoming nature in that particular regard

novel cedar
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Yup

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American entrepreneurship is unrivaled

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American technological innovation is pretty top tier

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Don’t forget DARPA licenses ASML their tech

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And TSMC would be nothing without ASML

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And that Tim berners Lee would have no internet, not TCPIP, no Personal computer to work with to make the WWW

tacit pebble
# novel cedar American entrepreneurship is unrivaled

I hope it remains this way, to be honest. I mean, we can point to obvious foreign turned American entrepreneurship. I am NOT a fan of Elon but if there is a demonstration of the American dream (granted he was a trust fund baby who drove to school during apartheid in a Rolls Royce but that aside) it would be him.

novel cedar
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Yup

tacit pebble
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I have been concerned about brain drain from our nation, and I do not know if the American outlook on education is necessarily a positive one

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I’d point more towards the people he bought out and muzzled from calling themselves founders but to each their own

novel cedar
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At least until a few weeks ago

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Our grants are the biggest

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Our facilities are some of the best

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Our pay is the highest

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novel cedar
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Absolutely

tacit pebble
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Or even just the facilities at the university I am going to attend or the previous one i have attended who have relied on aid to be able to sustain fantastic amenities

novel cedar
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And at least he’s still alive

tacit pebble
# last current I’d point more towards the people he bought out and muzzled from calling themsel...

I understand your anger and for the sake of the mods and the conversation, I have muted some of my stronger opinions for sure. You are welcome to DM if you need to vent LOL. I am not looking for an echochamber by no means but I am very angry about some of the things that have been said about me because of the current administration. My education being invalidated because of the woke agenda is a current admin rhetoric 1000% and the conspiracy theories being backed by it, or at least, validated by the current admin is astoundingly concerning to me

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Layoffs from federal agencies is being fueled by conspiracies and the moves to outright block the information dissemination is disgusting to me. But that is as far as I'll go to voice a stronger stance

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Would you believe me if I said I’m also being polite about my opinions? xD

tacit pebble
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Yes

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Like I said, for me, its the things i have been called which have left an awful taste in my mouth about the rhetoric of the current admin. it speaks volumes on the path they want to forge. I dont even want to get started on the attorney general strong arming, or the clear breaches of constitution that are blatant but I digress

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Anyway, the new hoodie looks neat :D

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in 3 years if schools survive students will not be affected by covid anymore

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we hope anyway but .... internet brain drain is less predicable

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flint zealot
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True enough but I do hope we can get this handled one way or the other ... Even if people don't want to force vaccines

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Brain drain from Canada to America?

drifting creek
# tacit pebble My best friend said my views aren't all that valid since, my education from univ...

I've experienced quite a bit of waryness at best, and resentment at worse for promoting post secondary education. I'm all for trade schools, community colleges, and universities. But when it comes to the internet, I feel like theres a bit of a "dunning Kreuger effect" in that anything worth knowing is easy, its just a matter of commitment, effort, and using the internet to make up for whatever you 'dont know'.
Resentment of instutional knowledge and 'experience' that isnt either blue collar or finance.

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Healthcare for one. But I've seen it especially in tech now.
"I enjoyed my time in college but it wasnt worth the cost"

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I think Linus mentioned that hes open to his kids pursuing a college education but not holding them to it, as Yvonne got a degree but Luke and Linus are both dropouts.

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Plus over time the value of it is seen as decreasing, which leads to the second point, should a government be involved in making higher education affordable?

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novel cedar
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Wild thing for someone from roblox to say

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Linus mentions on WAN show that, at least in his sense hes okay with paying taxes, as long as he gets a return/value to say

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We've come quite a bit from "Coders and hacking culture can fix the world"

lament galleon
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why are the smart ones always the dumbest

drifting creek
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"evolution is about becoming the best"
"Money is a form of evolution"

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My guess is a sense of unlimited growth and self percieved importance.
Once you have 'everything' and manage a sucessfull buisness why not seek to run entire regions

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lament galleon
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Or that you were able to talk some sense into him

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some people aren't beyond saving

inner idol
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I presume the same--as the far-right would call it--"woke agenda" is the same level of "woke" as "You're such a misogynist!" in YU-NO's US English dub by Funimation in 2019

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and also that the meaning of "woke" seems to almost be overshadowed by what could be called "far-right slang" instead of its true meanings it originally had

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War Thunder (just kidding!)
URL for reference was omitted, so just look up "Funimation Alters YU-NO Dialogue “You’re Such a Misogynist!”" for more context on that)

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It was part of what some critics would say was Funimation's "politically-inclined leftist agenda" and the distributor "altering dialogue to pander to feminists and those who don’t even watch anime", which dated back to as early as 2015, probably as a reaction to the climate since Gamergate in 2013-2014.

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To be fair, if the company (now known as Crunchyroll, LLC since 2021) also offered a straight dub that's close to the original source material, alongside what I'm gonna call the "woke dubs" for both YU-NO, Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid and a few other titles said to have been affected by this, the backlash would've been... lessened?

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I dunno. I know ADV Films did that with their dubs of Oh! Super Milk-Chan over two decades ago, but that was probably because they could, and ADV wasn't in a climate as sensitive and what-it-is as Funimation was a decade later.

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I'll just say that it's complicated and I'm probably not as, uh... qualified to talk about some of these things as much as anyone else, per se

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There's probably some political historians and anime localization historians who could explain this a heck of a lot better than I could

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I mean, Funimation did get some mentions on The WAN Show in the past, when Crunchyroll was ending Funimation NOW, effectively taking away users' access to digital copies on Funimation NOW, and also not doing anything like transferring Funimation NOW licenses to matching YouTube (Google Play), Apple TV (iTunes), or whatever licenses

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so, it's... kinda-WAN-related

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and Crunchyroll was even mentioned earlier on The WAN Show in March 2015, and sponsored Linus Tech Tips in 2016 on a Zotac GT 730 video, years before Sony Pictures acquired them (and predating Sony's Funimation buyout in 2017)

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but yeah, I'll just say this,
If you want to have a purist-friendly dub, whilst also wanting to do a dub that panders to the casual viewers & feminists, go for it as long as you offer both (along with literal translated subtitles for the original Japanese audio, too), and not just the latter only.

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I know it's relatively old hat, but the basic point remains. It's always good to have options.

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Being able to pick-n-choose

timid ruin
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And now something completely different:
Finally redone and framed LTTstore.com mrllamaLUL
(Sadly no longer available, but it's a really nice puzzle set nevertheless ❤️ )

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tiny mauve
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Please note: I don't watch YouTube on my browser, idk if it's still as shit on Firefox as it used to be

brittle moon
#

i watch youtube in firefox all the time. no issues.
I also have youtube premium tho so i don't need to worry about them throttling me because of adblock

frozen agate
#

I have been using firefox exclusively as my only browser for everything except development (compat testing with chrome / edge), since roughly 2018.

I have never had any of the issues people complain so much about

brittle moon
frozen agate
#

pretty much this ^^

my biggest issue with the browser turned out to be a windows bug related to boot image corruption (gonna happen on a 2 year old install eventually), and a reinstall of windows fixed the problem

timid ruin
#

I think I had some issues with some captcha, such as the one ASUS ROG Elite uses, and that was something where I needed to disable every extension and the built-in Enhanced Tracker Protection, and then I had like a 20% chance of getting the login to work, so I just used Edge. No other major websites had any issues (only like, very old, weird encryption ones, and only on occasion, so yeah, not YT or Twitch or such).

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Also been on Firefox since my Linux days from around 2010 and on Firefox for Windows since 2015

marble frigate
#

Using Firefox since v0.7 and never had a reason to switch

tacit pebble
lament galleon
#

In the sense that you have to enter your birthday to buy a game on steam

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Otherwise idk, does anyone check those anymore? We don't really have game boxes to put them on in 2025.

tacit pebble
woeful crescent
#

Probably biggest issue for them is on the mobile side and parental controls.. also might affect advertising and such too..

lament galleon
#

they have a book to play by

round garden
#

.

elfin cloud
#

also announced 2 new laptops i think

frozen agate
#

Framework 12 is the new laptop, other is a refresh of the 13 iirc

bronze pilot
#

I don't understand why the framework 12 exists

#

Why not add a touch screen to the 13?

lament galleon
#

It's a 2-in-1. Personally I wouldn't pay the extra price for that over a normal laptop (same with a touchscreen, I hate them in laptops, though I assume for that they could just offer two versions with different screens).

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So my assumption would be it's a split market.

bronze pilot
lament galleon
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I think it'd be an entirely redesigned chassis regardless

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and they ended up on 12" for whatever reason

bronze pilot
#

i mean they could just sell a touchscreen verison of the 13"

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like they are doing with the 2.2k display and the 2.8k display

lament galleon
#

I think that's a different issue though

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Like yes, agreed. But for the 2-in-1 I think it has to be a seperate product regardless of size.

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'cus it's not as simple as laptop + touch screen

bronze pilot
#

I just realized cam't you 3d print the framework 12 chassis

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since it's TPU

lament galleon
#

oh I'm sure

#

it's framework

bronze pilot
#

full diy now

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holy shit the hx370 main board is 1500 cad alone

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thats how much i paid for this 7640u laptop

runic pasture
#

presumably the framework 12” is going to target chromebook/lower end windows laptop market share

lament galleon
#

that's an interesting thought

#

it didn't occur to me they might nerf the hardware

outer gorge
#

nirav said something about the target audience being high school students right?

frozen agate
#

I believe so, yes

plain aurora
#

If i needed another laptop for basic stuff, i would def buy it

#

but silly me became a graphic designer so....

tiny mauve
#

Do only ASCII art and it won't be a problem.

plain aurora
inner idol
#

The amount of graphic design clients for ASCII art are probably very, very low

timid ruin
#

What are the statistics on this? ASCIIng for a friend Kappa

plain aurora
#

already lost a boatload of clients to canva

inner idol
plain aurora
#

so yeah, plus other "canva artists" have taken over and are doing it for much cheaper than those of us who have more costs going on to pass on, luckily photography hasn't been inpacted too much yet

tender prism
frozen agate
#

I think nvidia's Q4 earnings call is going pretty well

neat kiln
lament galleon
#

I feel like if you're buying a framework you have to be trusted to be able to read "touchscreen" in the product name

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like I know they make it easy, but it's a DIY product

plain aurora
#

tbh i would be surpised if they didn't offer two screens, one touch and one without touch

crude sandal
#

They basically made the perfect laptop for schools lol

last current
#

They’re definitely targeting the “high end Chromebook” market with the 12

#

The stylus is neat, could be handy to use as a drawing tablet for school digital art classes or something.

plain aurora
#

tbh for most students that need a basic windows machine and don't mind spending a decent amount of money to last them, that would be a good deal

woeful crescent
#

Something for Linus to swoon over on Friday

leaden wadi
#

This only gets more and more real every year

frozen agate
plain aurora
#

I’m getting there. Playing through the Spotify archives till I get to current.

IMG_0435.png
frozen agate
#

Results of the AMD RX9000 series stream today:

| GPU          | CUs | VRAM (GB) | Boost (MHz) | Peak TOPS* | TDP (W) | MSRP (US) |
| ------------ | --- | --------- | ----------- | ---------- | ------- | --------- |
| RX 9070      | 56  | 16        | 2520        | 1165       | 220     | $549      |
| RX 9070 XT   | 64  | 16        | 2970        | 1557       | 304     | $599      |
| RX 9070 XT** | 64  | 16        | Unknown     | Unknown    | 330***  | TBA       |
| RX 7900 XT   | 84  | 20        | 2394        | /shrug     | 300     | $899      |
| RX 7900 XTX  | 96  | 24        | 2498        | /shrug     | 355     | $999      |

* Peak AI TOPS using INT4 with sparsity
** Partner exclusive
*** confirmed max of 330w, tuned by partners

Both cards will have HDMI 2.1b and DP 2.1a, and use 8 pin PCIe power connectors unless the partner decides to not use those

Edit: Launching on March 6th
Edit 2: replaced TBP with TDP, because im dumb, also added semi-complete RX 7900XT/X entries for comparison sake

tiny nimbus
tiny mauve
#

About time. I hated it.

#

Bring back MSN Messenger

lament galleon
#

RIP the contacts I haven't talked to in years. Guess that's gonna be forever now :/

tiny mauve
#

I changed schools at the same time MSN was brutally murdered. I lost touch with everyone from my first school. 😢

lament galleon
#

I love when multi-billion dollar corporations slowly ruin services and eventually kill them off.

spring ether
#

MIcrosoft offering console repair parts and full guides through iFixit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOHl3EPtGPs

YouTube
TronicsFix
I Built a BRAND NEW Xbox Out of Parts - Here's How I Did It!

I Built a BRAND NEW Xbox Out of Parts - Here's How I Did It! I bought the parts needed to build an Xbox Series S myself. All the parts I bought were new OEM parts so this video should end with a fully working Xbox Series S - if everything works how I think it will.

►Tools & Parts I Use (paid link): https://www.amazon.com/shop/tronicsfix
►Tronic...

▶ Play video
timid ruin
# tiny mauve About time. I hated it.

It used to be really good until Microsoft purchased it. I have like 15$ on my balance from the time I worked for the tech support of the initial Skype company, I guess that's gonna be down the toilet now, not that it was my money jebaited

olive bronze
#

any word on different wan schedule today?

frozen agate
#

nothing out the ordinary

olive bronze
#

thanks

tiny nimbus
#

At this rate I’d just bookmark https://whenplane.com, it’s usually the second place that gets updated when something abnormal happens schedule-wise. (Discord is almost never the first place)

olive bronze
tiny nimbus
#

I have Twitch notifs for the LinusTech channel enabled, so I usually get pinged (in the dead of night because I’m fast asleep) when the pre-show starts. If the show’s ever early enough for me to watch it live then I’ll often find out from a post in the YouTube channel’s Community tab

frozen agate
#

European moment

tiny nimbus
#

It only really comes in useful for the pop-up build streams during the week

novel cedar
#

When modmat?!?

tiny mauve
#

Tf. I left twitch open to know when it started and it didn't autostart

#

Outrageous

keen bloom
#

Linus Gym Tips, lets goo!

tiny mauve
#

Who's this Toby (Tobey?) Finklestein (Finkelstein?)?

novel cedar
#

Does anyone remember that video ~3-4 years ago LTT released that included that photo sharing website that you could just enter in any string and it would find a random photo?

round ermine
#

Man, I really do not like that shirt

#

It's two different designs, horribly combined and clashing

tight mauve
#

on the labs blog post, if i have the tab open, switch to youtube, watch want for a bit, then switch back and scroll, the scroll action takes a while to happen 🤔

#

after that can just scroll no problem

#

probably browser issue

tiny mauve
tight mauve
# tiny mauve

lol, it is actually a chromium thing, tested across chrome and a few other chromium based browsers while firefox seems to be fine

#

not going to bother checking with servo or ladybird

wary dew
#

anyone got a link to the video they mentioned about correcting what they said about the placebo effect?

tight mauve
#

i think thats the video

wary dew
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thx

tight mauve
#

also i make no claims to if its legit, the contents of it, etc. havent watched it

wary dew
#

I have reiterated some of the stuff they said. so i feel obligated to correct what i said🙄

#

i guess i should have verified it first

red compass
#

🤓 I loved red alert/generals/c&c
I still play them. Got the re-release for $15 years back from BB

tight mauve
#

what was linus agreeing to, but not going to say?

brittle moon
tight mauve
#

ah, makes sense (also thanks)

brittle moon
#

yw 🙂

#

yacht is dead

woeful crescent
#

Trator Linus.. Shoulda taken them to Canada Wonderland rather than USA :p

lament galleon
#

not tech yacht

#

gone too soon 😔

jolly oar
woeful crescent
#

But... 🎶 Everyone loves Marineland 🎵

#

Except the person who sung that.. she hates them

spiral trout
#

did they talk about mozilla changing the tos?

lament galleon
#

they said on preshow they probably won't because it's boring

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(idk if they ended up talking about it anyway, I haven't been live)

tight mauve
#

its after dark, so done with topics (unless it is a merch message)

woeful crescent
#

Basically they said Mozilla did a bad job bring up the TOS change, and then did a worse job responding too it.. but its not a big deal to them cause its no different than most other browsers.. but they didn't dive into it deeply.. just in passing..

spiral trout
spiral trout
last iron
#

I'm probably too late in any event, but is it possible to ask questions for the WAN show here? I was hoping to ask if LTTStore would consider applying the current sale to orders including those items which are still waiting to ship since December because of the commuter backpack delays? It's painful to see something I paid $100 being sold for $40 when mine remains undispatched sadlinus

spiral trout
turbid shoal
#

that ending lmao

last iron
spiral trout
spiral trout
spiral trout
#

on twitter

#

since support was swamped i believe

last iron
#

next week I will just buy another offsite bag and add a merch message asking them to discount my previous offsite bag that shipped after the sale started pirateLinus

empty plover
#

Damn, the vod on youtube is too long for auto generated subs

#

Rip

random trout
empty plover
#

Ahhh interesting, I didn't know that. Thank you

brittle moon
empty plover
#

Any idea who from Shopify was in studio with the awards?

zealous spire
#

4.25 HOUR WAN SHOW

#

yoooo

frozen agate
#

anyone else notice the 1,000,000 order milestone sticker says 100,000?

image.png
#

nevermind, that is the 100k order milestone box, lol, my bad

woeful crescent
last current
#

Active cooling for the 12VHPWR is probably necessary xD

forest nymph
#

Regarding 5:41 of the latest WAN show: Linus, I thought you said that in the case of prices like $549 and $499 you were gonna call them $550 and $500 respectively.

I understand you wouldn't do that on lttstore.com, because you're actually trying to sell stuff there, but when reviewing products or reporting on pricing, it would be nice if you kept up that commitment.

PS: I tried to comment this under the video (even without mentioning lttstore.com, to make sure I don't end up in a URL filter), but the comment got removed immediately.

woeful crescent
#

I think it depends on context.. if reporting a MSRP then they go with the actual number.. when doing a general build or something they go with the rounded number.. Plus I could see Manufactures getting bent out of shape about "incorrect pricing"..

#

Hell could even be part of the agreement for them getting seeded stuff to test for embargo day..

rose sleet
#

Hi

last current
woeful crescent
#

lol

untold ivy
random trout
woeful crescent
#

I give the benefit of the doubt, I think it WAS tested, but tested under ideal conditions, not real-world tests, so the fundamental flaws never became apparent..

frozen agate
#

speaking of fundamental flaws

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you'd think with all the stories of the connectors failing when stressed at an angle

#

sapphire would have used their logic and put the connector facing the exit point from the shroud

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instead of offset by 90 degrees.

random trout
woeful crescent
#

Testing real world is one of those things that just about every group that does testing has to learn once.. cause they come out with the idea of the perfect repeatable test that will save everyone so much time, and they forget people are iditiots, both the users and the ones making the parts they are plugging in..

cursive tiger
last current
#

Most GPUs are

lament galleon
#

Once you're a 4 slot card I guess you can put the connector wherever you want without worrying about space XD

#

fr though, AIBs finally using their AIB status to make a design change that makes sense? wild.

crude sandal
#

4.5 hour wan show woooo

tacit pebble
# random trout IMO, testing in a vacuum isn't real testing - if you're not testing X thing unde...

As a non-engineer who works more in creative fields, your line of thought still makes way more sense than the approach "testing in a vacuum". I don't use my $$$$+ camera equipment in perfect conditions, it can be 110F+ day here in Dallas, or a monsoon season in Kyoto, Japan, and I would still have expectations that my camera would still function as advertised at the end of the day. They say it is weather sealed, it better be damn weather sealed. IF it says it has better XYZ, it better god damn have better XYZ. The perfect testing conditions are the most extreme conditions you expect your consumer product to go through. So to think that the 12VPHWR power connector somehow slipped through the cracks in rather mundane, as expected conditions are somehow melting, or at minimum malfunctioning at said conditions says everything. I don't think there is any benefit of a doubt to give as Ryoken was saying considering that nearly every malfunction reported so far have largely not been user error, and down to literal manufacturer inadequacy.

plain aurora
#

the prices these cards are selling at, they can't be testing in the vacuum, this is a price range where its right to expect top performance, just like with my camera. I would expect the card to run the way it advertises, any less or any power issues, its at fault of the designer and builder of the card, not the end user.

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now if i was to push it beyond its designed capabilities i can understand problems.... but right now team green is harder and harder to want to support and i'm begging AMD to come out with a solution that works well for those of us on Adobe.

drifting creek
last current
#

I'm... so tired

plain aurora
#

I had to read that over and over. I feel for Americans. I’m tired for you guys over here in nz.

last current
#

Yeah, it's just... as much as I want to complain there's not much to be done about the tailspin right now. Kinda in the "made the bed, now lie in it" stage until all this starts to make things untenable for people...

timid ruin
#

...and then the modern definition of Google Doctor emerges llamaLikeThisI this is quite sad.

tiny mauve
#

I wouldn't be affected by this anyway since I'm not a yankee nor do I live in yankeeland, but I'd love if it meant I don't have to pay my psychiatrist 360 bucks every other month just to get my ritalin prescription.

last current
#

Hopefully something happens to make it easier on you. I'mma just sit here in the mosh pit at loopyland until further notice. xD

terse plank
#

googling "how to get AI to hallucinate its way into prescribing me shrooms"

timid ruin
#

Just go hiking with a mycologist, you'd probably have a faster and quicker success rate jebaited

lament galleon
# drifting creek

Dw, I'm sure it'll do better than United Healthcare's 90% failure rate :/

woeful crescent
limber jewel
#

At this point the safest way to store media seems to be printing it out in binary.

last current
#

Rip your disks to digital then 3-2-1

odd grail
#

Another W for VHS gang linusKappa

ebon bridge
#

Waited till Noki uploaded the timestamps for the recent WAN Show
Was just curious what was there in the bonus bin items, and right now only the sticker packs and the ABCs of gaming is available
Could anyone tell what was available before?

odd grail
#

Controller ornaments

brittle moon
# ebon bridge Waited till Noki uploaded the timestamps for the recent WAN Show Was just curiou...

https://www.lttstore.com/collections/fus
I think everything here was in stock at the beginning of the sale other than the water bottle misprint

LTTStore
FUS (Bonus Bin)

Products placed in this collection will appear on the Bonus Bin in the cart. Products in this collection will have their product form altered with a notice that they are a free item and that there can only be 1 of them in the cart, all other standard product form rules apply. If there is already 1 FUS item in the cart

#

actually, it looks like the gpu ornament sold out the day before the sale started

#

and both animal sticker packs a few days before that. So mainly the book, dead pixel sticker sheet, and the controller ornaments alongside the normal 2022/2023 sticker packs

ebon bridge
ebon bridge
brittle moon
#

yw 🙂

lament galleon
lament galleon
coral patio
native kraken
neat kiln
#

Last week was a long wan huh

lament galleon
#

It was glorious

woeful crescent
restive rain
#

discord ipo could be interesting

frozen agate
#

That is not a stock I would consider buying.

#

But, prepare for ad-pocalypse and monetisation guru

trim obsidian
#

I mean I wouldn't even pay for Discord so why would I think it's a good investment? haha

restive rain
#

it also just seems like a bad time in the markets for an ipo

frozen agate
#

Well, theyre not bankrupt

restive rain
#

true

frozen agate
#

Even defense contractors are struggling for share price at the moment

brittle moon
normal pike
#

Serious question: With so much of the business LTT is based on reliant on technology and hardware sold in USA, is there consideration of setting up a USA branch for reviewing usa tech to avoid the tariff issues of operating in Canada? Obviously this assumes the Tariffs last and won't just be cancelled in time;

restive rain
#

and would also be a pain since all thier testing equitment and people are in canada

true bison
normal pike
#

Also to be clear saying this as a Canadian myself, its not that i want the show to expand into USA just that it might become the only realistic way financially to review products if Tariffs across the world be it china or usa or any other nation increase the price of importing electronics;

#

If the products are sponsored/sent for review for free that's probably less an impact of course. this is mostly in cases when they have to buy products out of pocket to review them;

true bison
normal pike
#

words are hard lol;

plain aurora
#

sounds crazy but in the grand scheme of things, LTT is a very small fish

crude sandal
crude sandal
woeful crescent
#

And even in those cases how many of the products are actually made in the US, and not Asia?

last current
#

There’s almost nothing that forgoes a step in SEA, and unless a lot of additional intermediary steps move into the US to support the semiconductor fabs that are currently there I don’t see that changing.

tiny mauve
wind hound
#

first world budget take

crude sandal
last current
#

Intel does have their fabs and I do believe that includes packaging for their silicon so… Intel CPUs probably count. GPUs almost certainly go overseas for board assembly though

woeful crescent
graceful swan
restive rain
normal pike
#

Matrix having the added benefit of e2e encryption;

tiny mauve
#

Wasn't there some drama with Matrix? Something about not being actually federated or smth?

#

But unless the enshitification gets really bad I'd imagine they won't actually move this server to an alternative

frozen agate
restive rain
frozen agate
#

It was dead long before that

restive rain
#

true

frozen agate
#

See also literally all of the hacks and attacks

novel cedar
#

Linus probably will have a lot to say tomorrow regarding availability and pricing rug pull for 9070

plain aurora
#

my brother got a hold of the XT version this morning at 3am NZT and the price went up by almost $100 after he ordered it and went out of stock.

restive rain
#

damn

plain aurora
#

only 30 at the price he paid

#

the thing is the market has said to the GPU makers that we will pay the higher prices.

last current
#

GPUs are leaving shelves as fast as they can be put on them, price be damned, by someone. Maybe not persnickety gamers buying a card, probably computer-heavy business ventures buying pallets.

plain aurora
#

hence the market has said to the makers here charge us this much, we'll pay!

#

which for the rest of us sucks

#

NZD

#

ladies and gentleman, presenting almost the cost of my camera gear.

last current
#

eBay is probably the best spot to shop for GPU (singular) at this point, not to pay scalpers for this year’s card, but to pay scalpees for almost-same-performance last year’s card

plain aurora
#

ebay isn't really a thing in NZ

#

what's AMD's last one? last gen?

last current
#

7900 XTX

#

would be the top spec of last gen.

#

7900 GRE / XT is +/- 9070, XTX is +/- 9070 XT

plain aurora
#

trade me has nothing hmm

#

around 1.4k NZD brand new

last current
#

Maybe you can talk an Aussie on Gumtree to chuck it across the strait?

plain aurora
#

my aunties are clueless about technology lol

#

but man this is tempting

#

cards ugly but meh

last current
#

Card goes in a box and you don’t look at it ever. At least I don’t; busy looking at the monitor xD

plain aurora
#

xD

#

so i can kinda see it

#

it will all work out 🙂 the 2070 still has life, i just want to replace it before it dies if it dies suddenly, i have a 5800x and well... that doesn't have a graphics card

inland tusk
manic merlin
inland tusk
#

Disguising?

hardy sapphire
#

if they come out

manic merlin
manic merlin
manic merlin
hardy sapphire
#

🤷

inland tusk
#

Yeah, I was just confused by your use of the word "disguising".

manic merlin
#

i meant disgusting but i clearly can't spell

#

also that's not even a good word for it haha

#

i just don't like it

fallen stirrup
#

I would love to hear them discuss this Zeus gpu from bolt graphics that claims to be able to beat a 5080, though the performance they suggest beats the 5090, they claim to be capable of full path tracing at 120 fps in 4k with no ai fake frames somehow.... Very bold for a startup coming out of nowhere.

#

I bet either it's totally bogus or if by some insane miracle it does anything close to these claims that Nvidia buys them out before they can go to market.

jolly oar
#

they'll crowdfund some money and then vanish off the face of the earth

fallen stirrup
#

I agree. But still curious to see what they are going to say at GDC

pale hamlet
#

Would anyone else be interested in a segment about dumb phones? There's been a trend in young people switching to dumb phones in order to take back their day. Id love to hear what Linus and Luke have to say about it as people who are extremely dialed in to the tech scene.

odd grail
#

It’s been brought up on WAN a couple times I think

#

Most recently, there was the discussion sparked by the app that dude made that requires literally touching grass to access social media apps

inner idol
#

Linus also ran out of the set for a bit to bring a piece of grass to the WAN set

#

but I think that grass touch was related to the AMD and Valve PR nightmare involving Counter-Strike 2-related VAC bans due to the messy way AMD's AntiLag Plus was made

olive bronze
#

any word that wan will start at an unusual time today?

hot ruin
#

How often does Wan show start at a european friendly time? For me it usually starts at 2AM and I would love to watch it live sometimes

tiny nimbus
tiny nimbus
olive bronze
#

says 2 hours 51 min

#

man i was just looking at pizza delivery and like half of the places near me offer anchovies as a topping

#

that's just criminal

#

geez what is it with pizza delivery anymore, i have to order on doordash?

frozen agate
lament galleon
#

(they have historical stats)

lament galleon
bleak gorge
brittle moon
#

title and thumbnail!

#

Lies, Damned Lies, And Then MSRP - WAN Show March 7, 2025

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woeful crescent
#

Once if Luke picked up a proper mic this week :p

#

Live

keen bloom
#

We live!

solar glacier
#

Found my fix for the spotty FP stream!

image.png
#

Had Youtube stream playing PiP on top of the FP viewport so I have the stability & realtime CC of the YT stream while having FP chat

restive rain
#

damn thats a thick side bar

tiny mauve
#

If you haven't already, I'd recommend you get the coordinates and window size (sharex is probably thre easiest way) and add a zone for it in powertoys

#

(For the pip, ofc)

olive bronze
#

this morning i admitted to my therapist that I spent $189 on LTT merch last week

#

but i got free shipping

#

is linus' voice deeper than normal?

keen bloom
#

I dont think so?

round ermine
#

Innertia is basicaly the force that will leave you when you hit something solid

#

How much of that force would go into the thing you hit, to move it back in kind.

#

So... Knockback?

#

That's how I think of it

#

Remember when Linux stole that tri-monitor laptop

olive bronze
#

havent we seen multiple screen laptops before?

lament galleon
#

I think there was one that basically had one of those dual folding monitor attachments built in

#

There was definitely one with a small (but functional) screen above the keyboard, and that one that was a foldable with all screen and you could either cover the bottom half with the detachable keyboard for 'laptop mode' or separate the keyboard for bigger screen shenanigans. I think Linus did vids on those.

wanton token
#

real miku stan

tiny mauve
tiny mauve
#

Edit: removed bc I'm pretty sure I said something wrong, it wasn't really passing the Fourier analysis when I reread it but I can't pinpoint what's wrong and I don't feel like going back to my dynamics book, the trauma is still too recent (<3 Lagrangian mechanics tho, ya beauty)...

wet hatch
#

Dan Show?

wanton token
cursive tiger
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"i'm bi" — luke

solar glacier
tiny nimbus
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Wonder where Linus had to be to make this week’s show one of the shorter ones

spice cairn
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probably the airport

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that's my guess anyways

plain aurora
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Bye…. Bye…..bye bye … I was laughing as they closed

stoic sonnet
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Inertia is an innate property of matter defined by its resistance to CHANGES in motion whereas Momentum is a quantification of that object's motion at a given time

terse plank
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an entire generation of Americans quietly yelling INERTIA IS A PROPERTY OF MATTER BILL BILL BILL BILL at the WAN Show this week

woeful crescent
spice cairn
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wtf

last current
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Today in “people are assholes”

spice cairn
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how do these kinds of people exist in a workplace and get away with this shit

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like the fuck

woeful crescent
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Well, hopefully the "get away" part will resovle itself soon.

spice cairn
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yeah

lament galleon
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Yeah, but like, how does it happen at all?

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I can't imagine something nearly that blantantly problematic occurring anywhere I've ever worked and not resulting in immediate action.

woeful crescent
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Well you see, people are trash.. for further research check the news, or the internet. You can extrapolate from there. 😐

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And when they get power and money, it deems that doesn't lower their urges to be trash..

cursive tiger
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most people are great, but it only takes a very small majority to screw everything up, and also to cause others to act in ways they normally wouldn't

terse plank
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It's Ubisoft so the answer is, once again, that Yves Guillemot is a piece of shit

spice oak
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I was looking forward to the Dan show

karmic cargo
frozen agate
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Surprised it's not posted yet

lament galleon
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Tbf, rights being a detriment to american consumers is the current stance of the government. So who knows 🤪

trim obsidian
frozen agate
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Yeah

woeful crescent
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I wouldn't put too much thought into it, its got a decade or more of legal battles to go

obtuse hollow
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Have they talked about the AI that the LLT store support uses? Im curious what they are using for this. I work in support and want to learn more about it

lament galleon
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They mentioned it when it was new and how it's basically just there to answer easy questions before passing it off to support, and that it wouldn't be replacing real people as support. I don't recall if they said what they were using though.

inner idol
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Easy questions make sense for a good AI model, while more complex questions would warrant LTT Store staff chiming in to help

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AI cannot replace humans, but augment them

plain aurora
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could it be salesforce? the cloud logo one?

spice oak
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More like having a FAQ page that doesn't require you to search for the question you want an answer to, the AI searches it for you

lament galleon
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Seeing as no one ever searches the FAQ anyway, seems like a win ¯_(ツ)_/¯

obtuse hollow
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Oh it can for sure help. I just wanted to know what they were using because I think it can get very good at solving common issues. Or at least triaging them for staff.

tiny nimbus
plain aurora
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Did they do a spotify thing? i hate e-waste

frozen agate
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No

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A bug stopped it casting properly

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"bug"

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It's being patched at some point, supposedly

lament galleon
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Google killing products intentionally and on purpose in the same article? Typical.

plain aurora
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A bug, hmm I “see”

lament galleon
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The "bug" is someone forgot they set a fixed 10 year certificate with no plans to update it. Unless they intentionally let it expire to kill the product off, which obviously isn't a bug.

plain aurora
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Yeah I had to deal with a piece of software that had that feature. It was a current one that a lot of churches used for their services. On a Friday night a certificate expired and the software wouldn’t run. That company had to run into work late on Friday night and work throughout the night to get it to work again

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It’s subscription based and a lot of us had to warn our pastors. I was up early on a Sunday morning to get it patched. (Friday American time/Saturday nz time)

crude sandal
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Pretty easy to forget that the cert was only valid for 10 years tbh

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The people that decided that probably don't even work there anymore and didn't set any sort of reminders

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Also kinda a "holy shit people are still using this thing" moment

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We have two.... Because my parents are cheap and refuse to spend money to improve their experience

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We got them in 2016

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They are horrible and slow now

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Youtube randomly cuts out back to the home screen

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Sometimes when casting wan it cuts out

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Or disconnects from my phone but keeps playing

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And then cuts out

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So it's played like 30 minutes that my phone doesn't know about then I have to guess where it was up to

lament galleon
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They don't know how long those would be sold. And it's a Google product, not a startup. (granted that doesn't mean shit when they kill projects left and right)

lament galleon
crude sandal
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Knowing what the Chromecasts are meant to be, this isn't surprising at all

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No doubt google doesn't put much effort into these and doesn't really want to make them at all
They're first party devices to show what google/Android tv can do

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Just unfortunately they end up being overall the better devices for the price so everyone buys them

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The Nvidia shield is too expensive and no one else really bothers trying properly

lament galleon
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They sold them for 9 years with 3 generations. I don't think google should be able to pull the "we didn't mean for it to take off" excuse.

crude sandal
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And I'd guarantee more effort was put into the 3rd gen and onwards lol

lament galleon
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And yeah, they do happen to be a better option for the price. Whoops, sucks to suck google, you accidentally made a good product for once.

crude sandal
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First gen was basically nothing, 2nd gen was when it actually became something

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So once again, this isn't surprising at all

lament galleon
crude sandal
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10 years is a long fucking time for a device like this

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The people that are still using them are suffering, as I described above

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Please go buy one of the newer Google tv ones

lament galleon
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Oh, sorry, not until 2024.

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2022 was the most recent model release which added google tv stuff

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before they switched to the google tv stick thing

lament galleon
crude sandal
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You say that as if they're not fixing it

lament galleon
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they had 2 models that were "chromecast with google tv"

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before comitting to the tv streamer

lament galleon
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Shouldn't have happened to begin with IMO.

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What is the certificate even for?

crude sandal
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I'd imagine they have to update the home app first to allow insecure connections and THEN update the firmware with the new cert

lament galleon
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^ prolly

crude sandal
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Everyone always forgets about them when they're working kekw

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That reminds me I need to update mine

lament galleon
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Well yeah... but every device you own handles updating that. Why would this particular device need a 10 year static cert?

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It was connecting to the internet and everything.

lament galleon
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but they were all on secure servers that needed manual intervention for various reasons

tiny nimbus
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Alternate headline

iRobot may be iDead in iYear

lament galleon
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Aren't there a million generic robot vacuums now? Doesn't surprise me.

tiny nimbus
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Always thought the Amazon deal had gone through, apparently it was abandoned after regulatory intervention

lament galleon
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Amazon doesn't need to own more random products for no real reason ngl 😂

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I mean as someone who doesn't own one, idrc. But it's so random.

tiny nimbus
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The big thing about Amazon owning iRobot would have been to acquire indoor maps of customer’s homes

lament galleon
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Yeah

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but I'm sure iRobot already sells that

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Every smart product people choose to buy is already a vector for privacy invasion. Idk if it matters which company owns the smart vacuum mapping your house and shipping that data off to god knows where.

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(Ideally none would have the data offsite, but I doubt iRobot commits to keeping it on device? I genuinely don't know.)

tiny nimbus
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We all know about Eufy, just waiting for some kind of RoboRock scandal now

minor horizon
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i wonder if there is any way to flash mine to be fully local

tiny mauve
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iRobot to me is just a Jon Bellion song

cursive tiger
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lol shots fired, take that apple

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barren lintel
minor horizon
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NOOOOOOO

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welp guess the roomba is going out the window

last current
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Leave the door open and it’ll leave automatically :D

tiny nimbus
trim obsidian
timid ruin
random trout
inner idol
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Did y'all know that there was a VHS release in South Korea?

plain aurora
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Recently it was the 20 year anniversary of the Robots movie

inner idol
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41 years of Nausicaa

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Only seven months before The Terminator gets its anniversary

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Both films released in 1984.
I consider Hayao Miyazaki and James Cameron oddly fitting contemporaries to each other

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They've had at least four films come out the same year as each other.
1986 had Castle in the Sky and Aliens

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1989, Kiki's Delivery Service and The Abyss

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and 1997 with Princess Mononoke and Titanic

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The latter two both also have IMAX releases in their history,
Mononoke is later this month from a native 4K restoration,
whereas Titanic had AI filters on top of its 4K scan (and presumably 4K DI they filtered) and some other things (and a 3D high-framerate conversion to boot)
(and there was also the 2012 3D conversion too, but anyways...)

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Miyazaki has been fairly open about AI being a "slap in the face" to what he considers the human touch,
whereas Cameron finds it a neat toy that had been used in the newest prints of his older movies as he busily works on the next Avatar movies

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Delaying the Avatar sequels a tad bit would probably help in having native 4K HDR prints with AI usage being toned down a tad, so it can look closer to video while still appealing to filmic purist videophiles.

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Though there is something to be said about those transfers opening the doors to other studios following in his footsteps

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the 2K-to-4K upscales that Jaws 3, The Sugarland Express, and Wallace & Gromit: A Matter of Loaf and Death had were subject to scrutiny and criticism due to what I would consider haphazard usage of these AI tools, instead of using some tender love & care on those tools and keeping it judicious.

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If done correctly, AI filters (I.e., upscalers, patchers, etc.) can work out well, but as of right now, it has been abused and beaten like an axe instead of judiciously & sparingly used like a scalpel

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David Fincher's use of AI in Se7en is an example of it done right.

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You don't have to be an AI fanboy or a "tech bro" to see the advantages, as well as drawbacks, those tools have.

placid dagger
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I hope Linus and Luke cover this in the next WAN show instalment

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Following on from last week's discussion about rebates, and limited time MSRP's

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it's explained what really happened in the video

inner idol
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This reminds me of the CD price fixing scandal of the 90s and 2000s in a way

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Is this esentially NVIDIA and AMD's GPU equivalent to what happened with record labels and record stores in the 90s?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD_price_fixing

CD price fixing

Between 1995 and 2000 music companies were found to have used illegal marketing agreements such as minimum advertised pricing to artificially inflate prices of compact discs in order to end price wars by discounters such as Best Buy and Target in the early 1990s. It is estimated customers were overcharged by nearly $500 million and up to $5 per ...

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"...illegal marketing agreements such as minimum advertised pricing to artificially inflate prices of compact discs in order to end price wars by discounters such as Best Buy and Target in the early 1990s."

placid dagger
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MSRP-gate

inner idol
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CD-gate's 25th? 30th? anniversary

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MSRP-gate Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

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When you have greed, no one learns lessons from decades ago

placid dagger
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AMD misses the opportunity of a century to smite nvidia

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smdh

real stag
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ai and ryzen chips get more margin. my current theory on the shortage ngl

tiny nimbus
inner idol
real stag
neat agate
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I really hope they don’t release the mod mat on tonight’s wan show.. my wallet can’t take that lmao

lament galleon
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release it, my wallet is ready :P

neat agate
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I’ll be buying it anyways since I have a rather large need for it lol

unkempt glade
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What a shock wan show is late

olive bronze
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lol

cinder spade
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patiently waiting

steady isle
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I'm impatiently waiting

olive bronze
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i'm patently waiting

mild sage
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damn still no thumbnail

olive bronze
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i'll nail your thumb

cursive tiger
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i'm patiently imwaiting

woeful crescent
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Will we return to the glory days of 3-4hr late WANShows? We'll be back after these words from our Sponsor..

cursive tiger
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deleteme, odoo and server part deals

unkempt glade
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ok was the wan show just canceled?

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im waiting for the why is wan show late

slim heath
dawn monolith
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where wan show

woeful crescent
# unkempt glade ok was the wan show just canceled?

You must be new.. there was a long period (years?) where 2, 3, 4 hrs late was not uncommon at all.. WANShow happens after their normal Friday work, which if you watch enough of the tech upgrade videos, often take place on a friday too..

brittle moon
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eyy we've got a title and thumbnail!

unkempt glade
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yeah i have only been watching wan show live for about a year and a half

brittle moon
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Come Join Me In Linus Town USA - WAN Show March 14, 2025

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unkempt glade
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where linux (Linus)

woeful crescent
unkempt glade
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yeah i remember when that happen

round ermine
unkempt glade
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there is still nothing on twitch

woeful crescent
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Twitch live

unkempt glade
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YAY 🎉

rare sapphire
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Its on

strong summit
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Where is Linus this wan show?

dawn monolith
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asia

atomic dock
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does LTT enables ads during wan show?

frozen agate
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on twitch they have to I believe

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Floatplane has no ads for LTT content

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Youtube is dependent on whatever the status of your premium subscription is

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I cannot speak to any other platforms since I don't use them

atomic dock
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ive just noticed that everytime luke commended on his health i got a few second long drug ad

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i was casting the pod from brave to my shield

frozen agate
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lol, what platform is this?

atomic dock
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this is ridicilous

frozen agate
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that's actually hilarious if true

atomic dock
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first two times it was

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then annoying

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ive set up a private dns i hope it solves it

dawn monolith
dawn monolith
# frozen agate on twitch they have to I believe

they dont have to or they could make it very minimal but they choose to do almost the maximum. linus went over this a few months ago. he would change it to something lower and someone on his team kept changing it back and told him not to touch it. the twitch experience without a ad blocker is fucken horrible.

frozen agate
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Twitch requires you to run ads

atomic dock
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it seems my browser is out of date so that explains it

woeful crescent
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Their twitch stream used to be ad free, or only preroll.. but Colton changed it.. then Linus changed it back, and after a little back and forth of a couple of weeks Linus was told to leave the ads on.. I have ways to block ads on twitch, still after the pre-show I generally switch to youtube..

dawn monolith
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yea they ruined twitch stream. the ads are horrid.

frozen agate
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fun fact about WAN. they stream it to so many places you're free to go almost anywhere else to watch it

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or if you care so much about the pre show, for the low low price of 5 dollareydoos per month, you can watch the whole thing, pre show included, entirely ad free, and get access to a massive back catalog of exclusive content!

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(im aware money is worth more/less depending on income and location and US$5 may be worth a hell of a lot more to someone in a developing country, however, if ads annoy you that much, watch anywhere but twitch and it'll be at least a marginally better experience)

formal monolith
woeful crescent
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I would rather watch on Twitch, cause I watch a fair bit on Twitch.. I'm mostly annoyed by how many ads they set it too.. The WANShow has, by FAR, the most ads per hour of any steam I watch that I'm not subbed too..

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Colton must have set it to max..

tiny mauve
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Twitch is for pre-show only. For the actual show YouTube is far superior: you can pause.

plain aurora
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i switch to youtube when it goes live so i can pause

tiny mauve
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You can even get auto subs if you're munching on crisps or popcorn while watching

tiny nimbus
plain aurora
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Hey Alexa shut down we don't need you anymore

terse plank
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and people think i'm weird for keeping that shit out of my home. Jokes on theeeeemmmm

lament galleon
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Same. Just a skill issue tbh.

inner idol
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And this furthers Luke's decision not to have Echo products around his home

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Something he mentioned when talking about the "free" spy of a TV called Telly

pastel fox
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Is it just me that is getting kinda annoyed by Linus constant use of the wording Common Sense?
Every time he thinks something is stupid, he leans on those words... however, Common Sense to "who"? Every nation and even family have different values, especially in this multi cultural society.... Common Sense is as "common" as your likeminded group....

terse plank
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it was really frustrating cause that entire regulation rant with the badminton center he kinda showed his ass

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there were some good comments from actual fire people on fp that pointed out why tf the regulation isn't actually dumb

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just cause you don't understand why a thing exists doesn't mean it's silly. That style of thinking is exactly why things are gestures broadly

plain aurora
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regulations are written in blood

woeful crescent
frozen agate
# terse plank there were some good comments from actual fire people on fp that pointed out why...

I'm also of the opinion that if the building was fine without the doors, adding the doors shouldn't cause issues later on. Otherwise, the building should never have been fine before the extra doors were installed.

Though, admittedly, a system where the locks are disabled in the event of the fire alarm being triggered should also be sufficient in this case, so quite why the engineer was unwilling to compromise on it I'm not sure, maybe just a lack of knowledge on the existence of such an option

terse plank
spice oak
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that makes sense

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but do the doors lead outside?

frozen agate
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And maybe the fire is in the room they're running towards

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I know these rules are in place for a reason, but the rules maybe need rethinking if they lead to situations such as this

lament galleon
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Also, why are you trying to run to a random door that could be nothing? The actual exits should be clearly marked, it honestly seems better that they aren't able to get into a new space where they have to locate another exit and potentially navigate even more people.

frozen agate
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^^ this, this right here.

Not sure about canada but in the UK all exit routes are mapped and are legally required to have a green, self illuminating (via battery or other means) EXIT sign, such that they can be located in a dark area, and obvious when fire is present

spice oak
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perhaps Linus should have mentioned that instead

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explaining common sense in the way he's thinking could help the situation with the person saying the doors need those push handles

terse plank
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why do people love to pretend that mfers will act logically all day every day

woeful crescent
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Worth keeping in mind, Linus was just talking.. Its not like this was his pre-prepared presentation on Fire Exists and how they should work in his building.. so I don't see the issue with him not covering everything, and glossing over some stuff..

terse plank
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it's mostly just that it came off as a whiny "I don't understand it therefore it's dumb" segment. I'm a sailor where regulations are really fucking important even if you don't get why a given one exists so it's just irritating to hear an entire whiny rant thats just that

frozen agate
frozen agate
terse plank
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Do sometimes old regs persist past their usefulness and just be a headache sure. Do sometimes regs exist cause a competing business is doing some good ole government capture? Absolutely.

But it takes being pretty intimately familiar with a given thing to be able to truly understand when a reg might be actually silly and it's far more common that someone just doesn't know why it's there and is just whining.

frozen agate
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pretty much

spice oak
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also the comparison to a bingo hall is not the same thing. There's a vast amount of power being used in a lan party compared to a bingo hall where people are just stamping cards.

frozen agate
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do you know how much power the lighting and speakers in a bingo hall use?

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I'll give you a hint, each of those XY moving head lamps uses almost as much power as a low to lower medium end gaming pc under load

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(somewhere between 200 and 400 watts)

cursive tiger
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i might be wrong, i come from a country and city where the council couldn't care less what you're doing so long as you pay up for building consent

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this is also the lower mainland we're talking about where corporate lobbying absolutely exists and absolutely has an effect on how laws are made

brittle moon
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the thing linus was talking about was crash bars being required on a door that didn't exist before

spice oak
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with increased power usage, there's an increased chance of fire happening

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but I think whoever told Linus to add the push handles, should be able to answer why, or find someone who could answer why

brittle moon
jade kelp
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So did anyone find the link to enter to win the backpack ?

lament galleon
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(unless it is and no one told me, but it's been pasted here a few times)

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(I'm not far enough in the VOD to have heard the segment yet 💀)

restive rain
jade kelp
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Thnx

crisp sedge
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Just entered for the backpack may the odds be ever in our favor

native kraken
native kraken
plain aurora
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I rolled 5 times

native kraken
native kraken
plain aurora
# frozen agate

Funny enough I haven’t seen those here till the building I work in got renovated

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I’m curious how many rolled a 20 before then

native kraken
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Still had it open

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brittle moon
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yeah on the 5th roll you're guarenteed a 20 if you didnt get one yet

random trout
plain aurora
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I wonder how many entered whoa what pepoJuice

brittle moon
plain aurora
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More than ten for sure

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I’m glad it’s worldwide mostly

native kraken
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idk i thought i'd leave the most random answer

plain aurora
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I thought I would leave a random sticker

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“Only you can save gpu prices”

native kraken
plain aurora
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Team 2070 here

native kraken
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still rocking an evga 1070

plain aurora
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Heyyy framework I’m hoping they will release a laptop for my needs and my region when it’s time to upgrade my laptop

native kraken
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i should prob buy the framework 16 gpu instead of using a usb 1070

plain aurora
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Dad used to spend 2k every three years and get a whole new setup. I’m looking at 3.5 foot the tower alone

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To me that’s actually insane price wise

native kraken
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what

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7k

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wow

native kraken
plain aurora
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New Zealand dollar

native kraken
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oh

inner idol
plain aurora
native kraken
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my condolences

inner idol
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read it as the typo "foot" instead of "for" and thought it was a tall tower (I.e., the HAF Stacker cases from Cooler Master)

plain aurora
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That’s if I rebuild the whole pc from bottom

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Nah I’ll keep using my 4000d it’s nice

inner idol
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Speaking of "3.5 foot", how tall is your current tower?

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I'm guessing the common average is around 1.5 feet?

plain aurora
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5080s are 3k
5070ti are 1.9k

inner idol
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ouch, even in NZD

native kraken
inner idol
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It's not cheap to get into graphics cards of a relatively new generation

plain aurora
native kraken
inner idol
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appears to be 466mm

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18.3465 inches according to Google, which is about a foot and a half

plain aurora
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Yeah it’s not huge but decent size, building within is great

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Brother brought it for me, built in it and then brought himself one

native kraken
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the retailer i work for hardly gets stock and they last minutes when they do*

plain aurora
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Yeah well we are in a recession and with prices like that I can see why things can take a while to move

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Record numbers on working benefits now because their business closed

inner idol
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Seems like there's a recession every decade-ish or so

plain aurora
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1 job opportunity, 2k people apply

inner idol
plain aurora
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Yeah and since I am in a small country that has costs to do with shipping etc it doesn’t help

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My commuter cost me $300 locally

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Oh cool the US dollar is cooling down against nzd

native kraken
plain aurora
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I knew it’s a mess but for a while it was going towards 1.80 per dollar

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It was $1.77 when commuter was released

native kraken
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tarriffs prob had something to do with it going down

inner idol
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tariffs and import taxes that make it feel like Brazil in 2015 all over again

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There's no native Brazillian Nintendo, nor a native American or Canadian Nintendo

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTYBpI2OiPI
Deja vu. It's like it's January 2015 (or even mid-2019) all over again!

YouTube
Pat the NES Punk
Nintendo No Longer Selling Games & Consoles in Brazil - #CUPodcast

Due to high tariffs and taxes, Nintendo is pulling out of the Brazilian market in South America.
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plain aurora
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Do you think they may be sold under a different name like those Chinese consoles

inner idol
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I have no idea if they'd pull an iQue for the USA or Brazil

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Sega did have a partnership with Tec Toy in the 90s to distribute Sega product in Brazil, as well as licensed Sega-themed products

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That's what led to the Master System having some late-release ports of Game Gear games in foreign markets--especially Brazil

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I'd imagine Nintendo still dealt with tariffs in the 80s and 90s since they didn't really have a Tec Toy of their own

native kraken
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
cursive tiger
# inner idol ouch, even in NZD

bear in mind the insanity that is import fees and shipping here, everything costs much more than the pure currency conversion

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but those prices are still insane

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and yet enough people still want the stuff

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i've been surprised to see the number of 9070 xts we've been getting, and how for the most part they've managed to stay around $1300

native kraken
cursive tiger
plain aurora
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The amount of civil job and govt jobs is insane

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Teachers are in high demand, I got asked to train as one….. I said heck no

crude sandal
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It's funny how it's always the shit jobs that are in demand, even when the economy is fucked

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Teachers are extremely overworked and underpaid

plain aurora
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Yep, a few of my friends are and I feel for them.

last current
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As long as there are children needing taught, there'll be need for teachers.

crude sandal
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That wasn't the point at all

plain aurora
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We need teachers…. But the pay and conditions are not inviting people to teach the children that need them. New Zealand has a teacher and nurse/doctor shortage

frozen agate
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you want people to be paid proportionally to their importance to society? get out of my way communist. Line must go up! /s

plain aurora
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I know it’s not simple

cursive tiger
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i don't think anyone's under the illusion that 3pm comes around each day and that's all the work they have to do finished until the next morning

versed grail
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Potential mini-topic: Xenosaga Pied Piper, which released exclusively on Japanese phones in 2004 has been preserved and is now playable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjo9RXxG6ak

YouTube
ValakTurtle
Xenosaga Pied Piper has been preserved!

Check the pinned comment for the links (YouTube hates me)

After many years of tirelessly searching for Xenosaga Pied Piper, the day has finally come where it has been preserved for everyone to experience. This is truly a monumental moment for Xeno Series fans as it was the only missing game in the series.

You can download the game here: https:...

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plain aurora
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So yeah with kids coming with reducing attention spans and limited education their job is getting harder

tiny nimbus
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A 2025 Pebble cannot:

  • Send SMS or iMessage text
  • Reply or otherwise act on notifications
  • Keep a connection alive if the user closes (swipes up on) the Pebble app
  • Separate or mute watch notifications while a phone is in use
  • Run a JavaScript engine on the watch OS, which complicates development
  • Keep notifications hidden on an iPhone lockscreen and still show on a Pebble
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"The problem is that 40% of everyone who signed up on rePebble.com still uses an iPhone," Migicovsky writes. "So we’re going to make a damn iOS app. I guess we’re gluttons for punishment."

tender prism
normal pike
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I have an idea for a video;

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Pretty pony gaming pc;

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Trojan pony that looks cute on the outside but has a beast gaming pc hidden on the inside;

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Bonus points if the rgb makes it look magical;

inner idol
plain aurora
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Noooooo

leaden wadi
plain aurora
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Then again it’s hard once your iwatch iPhone to break that ecosystem

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“Oh I am in a meeting swipe and DND one hour” both devices silent

terse plank
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oh those downsides are for IOS going by the article?

plain aurora
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Both but some for iOS as well