the-wan-show

[brazen isle]

himself

[low otter]

woa first Dream vs TommyInnit and now this o_O

[slate relic]

i think at some point GN's audience snowballed to the point where some people less willing to think independently just latched onto him for the sake of being contrarian

[sleek kayak]

Dream is still popular? lol

[novel cedar]

Luke just kinda sitting pretty

[brazen isle]

Steve has a very high opinion of himself and nearly always leads to jealousy

[low otter]

im definitely gonna wanna take a good listen to both sides, this stuff is pretty big

[slate relic]

if that's true, you'd think that steve would love to have more competition/data/testing out there

[slate relic]

luke with the "end stream" button under the table in case he goes off script for more than 3 words

jk

[quasi crow]

What’s the statement about he’s reading about stream?

[slate relic]

GN's accusations (i think it's valid to call it an accusation)

[novel cedar]

Gamers Nexus refute

[glossy latch]

GN talked shit again.

[slate relic]

which again is this one again

[round ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-security-button-panic-button-gif-11400446

[quasi crow]

Where?

[slate relic]

youtube...?

[quasi crow]

I assumed that but I haven’t seen anything about it?

[glossy latch]

“They should have talked about honey”

[woeful crescent]

The out of context clip on Honey

[sleek kayak]

Steve used an out of context clip in his new video which was uncalled for

[slate relic]

ah

[quasi crow]

Ohhh

[slate relic]

context is for people who like actively thinking indepdently about nuanced situations 😔

[quasi crow]

I think Steve is letting a couple good points he made about Linus go to his head

[brazen isle]

It is this simple. If LTT had made a video about Honey, saying "you might save money but it takes money from us" he would have been slammed for being greedy. LTT didn't uncover the honey thing either.

Steve has super fucked up

[slate relic]

possibly

[sleek kayak]

Yeah. I'm just glad there were tons of people in the comments calling out Steve's crappy action

[quasi crow]

I do feel like LTT probably should’ve talked about Honey but like

[low otter]

woa the beef is even a little similar (in the sense that one party is claiming that the other is being maliciously misrepresentative)

[quasi crow]

It’s not the hugest deal

[sleek kayak]

They have multiple times

[slate relic]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[candid juniper]

All of this rant is about honey and the lawsuit GN made against honey?

[tiny mauve]

This feels a little like a serious but still good class presentation because of the brief images (instead of the usual browser)

[novel cedar]

Yeah pretty much

[quasi crow]

Like recently or years ago?

[opal crystal]

that plus he's also addressing the last drama

[woeful crescent]

Both

[novel cedar]

Oh damn, private message

[sleek kayak]

oof

[quasi crow]

I don’t remember it being addressed years ago

Was it in WAN?

[low otter]

private messages, another similarity to the new dream drama lol

[quasi crow]

goddamn

[tiny mauve]

Damn, left on read

Cold

[woeful crescent]

Hey look Linus asked for comment ahead of time

[quasi crow]

Linus made some great points there

[novel cedar]

High bar

[round ermine]

Wait, Luke wasn't before? That is concerning.

[sleek kayak]

All of this does feel like personal attack from Steve. There's no hiding it now.

[quasi crow]

I do think Steve means well but he needs to like

[slate relic]

do green texts on ios even show read/unread

[quasi crow]

Stop being sloppy and vindictive

[quasi crow]

only with RCS

[sleek kayak]

He needs to focus on tech reviews again. Not stiring up fake drama between creators.

[novel cedar]

Which didn’t exist cross platform several years ago. But GN didn’t respond, so left on read

[candid juniper]

so linus isnt a journalist and steve is or am I reading this wrong??

[quasi crow]

I think the investigative stuff is cool and I don’t hate that aspect of it

[misty lynx]

was Honey's partnership with retailers to limit the available coupon codes public prior to the megalag video?

[tiny mauve]

Idk, but Steve didn't reply so I made the joke

[slate relic]

fair tbh

[quasi crow]

I think using it as a platform to flame other YouTubers over little mistakes is not worth it

[woeful crescent]

I like Steves actual tech coverage, but is he Very Pious.

[slate relic]

i'd be surprised if steve didn't see it at all though

[quasi crow]

I’m just not sure what Steve’s angle is here

[sleek kayak]

Well yeah. I'm glad they're taking actions but personally attacking LTT was unprofessional

[quasi crow]

100%

Dragging LTT into it was weird

[brazen isle]

I became a floatplane sub after the drama tbh. I fell their transparency and desire to do better is something you don't see with a lot of media outlets.

[quasi crow]

There are plenty of other YouTubers who have done some scummy stuff who don’t get the degree of crap Linus has

[quasi crow]

100%, LTT is the only channel that acknowledged the criticism from the stuff last year and took it in stride to improve

and the product has consistently been better id say

[slate relic]

engagement bait! or something, i dunno

[glossy latch]

why does youtube chat have so many issues???

[opal crystal]

my only problem with LTT in this last thing is that they addressed only the "attack" against them, made stupid claims like "everyone knew about it" (I've seen countless of creators react to it, none of them knew), and not think about it in the frame of "what should we do now"

[sleek kayak]

I will go crazy if Steve releases a two hour long video from this...

[slate relic]

youtube chat is the most accessible for most people, i'd assume

therefore,

[tiny mauve]

why does youtube chat have so many issues???

[quasi crow]

I just don’t get what Steve’s end goal is here

Like last year it was so LTT would fix their shit

And they did

[woeful crescent]

Both Linus and Steve are flawed people that sometimes let their pride lead them.. but thats why you call them both out when they fuckup.

[sleek kayak]

Could be ego

[misty lynx]

moderation tools on youtube chat is pretty horrible

[novel cedar]

20k viewers though!!!

[slate relic]

i wonder what gn's response will be

[woeful crescent]

Youtube chat is not moderatable.. just ignore it.

[sleek kayak]

just close the chat. easy,

[quasi crow]

and again

[sleek kayak]

twitch chat is more bareable to read

[quasi crow]

Linus is not perfect by any means

But I’d say by and large he’s a good faith actor

[slate relic]

why read chat when you can not

[novel cedar]

Completely agree

[woeful crescent]

Linus initial response to GN's OG piece is a prime example of Linus letting pride lead him.. it was a BAD response..

[quasi crow]

There are plenty bad faith actors in this space cough cough TechSource who get 5% of the shit flung at them

[glossy latch]

Hi Linus, i'd rather sling GPU's not mud

[woeful crescent]

Sling Backpacks 😉

[hoary haven]

(tunes into WAN Show LIVE for the first time in years...when is the normal WAN Show gonna start...and not this nerd fight about who said what and bickering...oh no...anyways)

[brazen isle]

this, nobody is perfect but intent matters and I have never got the impressions that Linus has acted in anything other than good faith.

[misty lynx]

mud is cheap, GPUs are expensive

[glossy latch]

or SCREWDRIVERS BABY

[slate relic]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-late-omg-what-happened-pizza-gif-11504119

[low otter]

energy we need to power RTX 5090s
lollll

[round ermine]

Ok bois, you heard him. Time to go at this like the old Nintendo vs Sega days!

[sleek kayak]

Welcome! Tuned in at the right time lol

[hoary haven]

https://tenor.com/view/rabble-randy-marsh-sheila-broflovski-gerald-broflovski-richard-tweak-gif-22002734

[glossy latch]

RIP modmat

[novel cedar]

Respectable thing tho

22:50 segment

[round ermine]

That Segue into the WAN show

[sleek kayak]

LMAO

[slate relic]

wan show just started 18 minutes in!

[woeful crescent]

Steve got the modmat delayed.. GET THE PITCHFORKS

[sleek kayak]

WHAT AN OPENING

[neat kiln]

that segway

[round ermine]

LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED

[slate relic]

moment

[low otter]

lol late wan show opening

true to form

[novel cedar]

Wowza, this man is a machine

[round ermine]

Segue*

Segway is the scooter company.

[sleek kayak]

"normal time"

[low otter]

imagine that, a preshow officially live on youtube

[slate relic]

next your gonna bee telling me how to spel other word's smh my head

[hoary haven]

Todays WAN Show uber long intro segment....

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[neat kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/niles-crane-coming-entrance-cool-gif-13489289

[sleek kayak]

Not bad...

[woeful crescent]

Nice one Linus

[tiny mauve]

Fun fact: having YT chat open at all can cause memory leaks, so closing it is a double win.

[sleek kayak]

HONEY LMAO

[hoary haven]

yea. normal wan show time

[misty lynx]

hyperchat helps with the memory issues

[slate relic]

wow, actually? how do you cause a memory leak from a chat window?

[novel cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersNexus/comments/1i3wck1/ltt_still_mad_at_gn_rehashing_2023_reporting/

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersNexus/comments/1i3wjn4/friendly_reminder_that_companies_are_not_your/

GN's sub has two posts about it

[round ermine]

Linus should do a video about Segways, purely for the Segue jokes.

[low otter]

lol the fake honey sponsor mention

[neat kiln]

I def have this issue.
Is it firefox?

[slate relic]

even better, never actually have a sponsor in the video

[hoary haven]

reddit, the stinky armpit of the internet

[slate relic]

just segue/segway puns all the way through

[sleek kayak]

Posting negative content for karma. Classic Reddit...

[tiny mauve]

Not just on Firefox. I still had problems with it back on Vivaldi/Opera

[novel cedar]

Yeah, but while LTT has a forum GN doesn't. This is closest I can get for community sentiment rn

[brazen isle]

It's totally fair to say companies aren't your friend but it shouldn't be used as a reason not to call out one shitty companies behaviour

[sleek kayak]

I saw the clip for the tonight show. Linus was so nervouse there lol

[round ermine]

who is bad bunny and why does his name sound lewd

[grizzled canyon]

No, he's mad

[sleek kayak]

I still don't know who bad bunny is

[tiny mauve]

Yep. It's a known problem, thankfully, like I said, closing it solves two problems: the memory leak and the shitshow that is YT chat

[brazen isle]

same

[tiny mauve]

I only know bad bunny from Amorfoda

[round ermine]

Oh, he's a rapper.

I exclusively listen to Prog Metal

So well outside of my sphere

The inches joke was good tho

[tiny mauve]

Idk if it is prog metal, but it came from qobuz/deezer with a metal genre tag and I really fwi: breakk.away

[restive rain]

hoooooly what an intro to the wan show, was not expecting this. Glad to see them sticking up for lmg

[low otter]

im still gonna watch both GN and LTT cuz they both have interesting content styles and it's good to have multiple angles on the same products

[lament galleon]

Hey, if Chrome is gonna leak memory like they made the boat out of a screen door, YouTube may as well join the party.

[round ermine]

Never heard of them, but most Prog MEtal bands are very much niche and hard to find

I listen to Caligula's Horse and Rishloo

Doubt anyone here has heard them

[tiny mauve]

Also, they've only release like 3 songs in as many years

[opaque tiger]

I really liked the tonight show segment i got to watch it. and now watching his side of this is great.

[sleek kayak]

It's a good clip

[novel cedar]

Linus said “almost” everything he wore was LTT

[slate relic]

does he have contacts or what

[tiny mauve]

Luke "Cyclops" Lafreniere about to leave LMG and join the X-Men

[opaque tiger]

Those are glasses i wish i could get as like presciptions. but i know thats like SUPER improbable for those kind of lenses

[sleek kayak]

the ding lmao

[woeful crescent]

Dad Joke Bell.. they have shown it on camera before..

[slate relic]

ngl that's more of an uncle joke

lol

[woeful crescent]

I knew I posted a link to it before lol https://youtu.be/Ru4g4Rm0Mfo?si=JUtg20ghqm8aO5rq&t=728

To the timestamp

[restive rain]

its impressive how quickly linus was able to switch from serious to unserious when wan show actually started

[woeful crescent]

Linus is good about turning it on/off..

[lament galleon]

he's just seriously unserious

[slate relic]

being on screen a lot does that i guess

[sleek kayak]

I remember that video. it was good

[sleek kayak]

[woeful crescent]

I love his tours.. I loved his one with JerryRigEverything too

The GN one and Sara Dietschy

Were also standouts in my memory

[wide wolf]

nooo the only two tech youtubers I watch are beefing

[woeful crescent]

Go watch Level1Techs.. no one beefs with him.

This way you always have a safespace 🙂

[wide wolf]

yeah tbf "only two tech youtubers" is a bit of a strech lmao

just lemme be dramatic ughhhh lol

[woeful crescent]

:p

[lament galleon]

Beef with level1techs and your raid mysteriously disappears 🤫

[woeful crescent]

😄

[sleek kayak]

I remember watching sara while back

[woeful crescent]

Also watched her tour of LTT

[sleek kayak]

what a topic...

[neat kiln]

I think the youtube memory leak crashed my pc

[opaque tiger]

oof

[lament galleon]

dang, it's that bad?

[woeful crescent]

Download more ram

[lament galleon]

true

[brittle moon]

the youtube website has been painfully slow for years

[neat kiln]

It's never done that before

[lament galleon]

I mean if google can undownload it surely you can redownload it?

[sleek kayak]

get hyperchat plugin for youtube or just close chat

[woeful crescent]

I have 64GB and between youtube and twitch I can run out..

[opaque tiger]

i was so looking forward to this wan show post tonight show

[lament galleon]

I love how on firefox if you don't shut your PC off for a while it just stops working altogether :D (that's based on my sample size of 1, but that definitely happens on my machine lmao)

[brittle moon]

firefox been running the whole time and have had no issues with it

[woeful crescent]

Ouch.. so Linus chose that hair style on the Tonight show and it wasn't forced on him..

[lament galleon]

like I said, my machine

I still blame google though (since nothing else breaks)

[crude sandal]

He has to wear the coat.

[neat kiln]

1.5x speed to catch up

[crude sandal]

Walk out onto the stage wearing the coat.

[woeful crescent]

Just come out in only his LTT Underwear and socks..

[exotic nymph]

this.

[empty wadi]

Yes, Linus is good hearted person but, as a active viewer Linuses take on this Honey scam fiasko has left me thinking is there some Legal reason why Linus doesnt want to talk about it. He rarely sounds disingenuous, but his first take about the Honey sounded like he didnt want to talk about it, and the way he swapped looks with Luke while evading the talk about Honey. Its the first time ive seen linus hiding something and trying to gaslight us the viewers with bad excuses why he didnt want to talk about the case.

[exotic nymph]

i think maybe they talked about it last week?

[granite steeple]

Nintendo requires a sacrifice of wisdom teeth

[sleek kayak]

This is gold

[opaque tiger]

that edit on the tonight show image to swap to vessi's is great

[granite steeple]

NYT IS 12 DOLLARS A MONTH????

[exotic nymph]

wild

[granite steeple]

me when archive.ph

ltt backpack lite™️

oh

[sleek kayak]

I was like $249 for a pin?!

LOL

[opaque tiger]

i saw the pin before the show callout and i was like WHAT then i looked

[granite steeple]

that shit made of silver

[sleek kayak]

honestly would be cool

[opaque tiger]

ive considered getting that retro monitor cave for my kitty, but my roomate just got her a bed... so im uh bleh

[sleek kayak]

Is this minecraft reference

[granite steeple]

bedrock

[sleek kayak]

yup

now release that for a human

[empty wadi]

I remember 2 times when i hear him talk about it. First time was the same week the Honey scam emerged, it was on WAN show at around 70% point. Second time i heard him mention Honey was todays WAN show, and again he didnt talk about it, just mentioned the case.

You might be right though, ill have to double check the last weeks WAN show, but if you go to last weeks WAN show and check the time stamps, there is no mention of Honey.

Linus finally has something shady going on after 10 years of watching him. He doesnt want to talk about the Honey scam.

[sleek kayak]

"i got an offer"

[exotic nymph]

idk he was just talking about assumptions

[granite steeple]

i think he's just cooking with legal right now

let him cook

[sleek kayak]

Time to buy a backpack now even though i work from home

[opaque tiger]

the way he was speaking during the GN section also makes me think legal is definately cooking in the BG for something.

[sleek kayak]

Well yeah. That was a given but it was the right thing to do

[empty wadi]

Thats what i would think first too. But usually he is very good at telling the viewers when he can not disclose something. Now when Honey is mentioned he stumbles with the conversation like teenager caught doing something bad.

[granite steeple]

my switch modchip finally arrived after the switch 2 got announced

[opaque tiger]

My main concern for the switch 2 is the joycon connections

[sleek kayak]

This reminds me. I should sell my Switch OLED. I don't play it anymore

Had horrible experience with it

[opaque tiger]

Hold it. trade it into gamestop

[sleek kayak]

hell no

they'll give me 25 bucks

[opaque tiger]

as someone who works at gamestop IM 99% sure they will have a trade bonus for it towards switch 2s

[sleek kayak]

I could probably get 100 bucks from it with a game

its in brand new condition

[opaque tiger]

oh more then that. easily 250

[exotic nymph]

$100??? for the oled

[granite steeple]

i would hardmod it but yeah hardmodding the OLED is pain

[sleek kayak]

what's a good value?

[granite steeple]

you literally need to scratch the pcb to expose the contacts so you can short the soc

[opaque tiger]

the way i cringed reading that

[granite steeple]

yeah

switch modchips rely on fault injection

they literally short out the SoC to get it to run unsigned code

standard switches expose the capacitor on the SoC die

[exotic nymph]

surely more

like $250 if it has games with it

at least

[sleek kayak]

Well I only have one which is zelda lol

[opaque tiger]

BotW?

[sleek kayak]

yeah

[granite steeple]

yes it sucks

[opaque tiger]

thats a sought after game for switch

[sleek kayak]

I'll probably replay it on my pc

[opaque tiger]

it wnt hurt your case

[sleek kayak]

performance was so bad that it made me rage quit all together

I think I was like 25% through it

[granite steeple]

totk is more sought out tho?

[opaque tiger]

I agree but parent X buying console for their kid doesn't care how game performs just knows game is popular on switch and comes with switch.

[sleek kayak]

I literally got headaches playing the switch

[granite steeple]

i play fortnite on the switch

[opaque tiger]

as someone who literally works at gamestop. we quite literally cant keep switches on the shelf especially oled's and they sell used for 310 with nothing

[sleek kayak]

you're brave for that

[granite steeple]

its the only platform i can play on

[sleek kayak]

understandable

[opaque tiger]

250 is more then fair with a game included

[granite steeple]

I run Linux, i have an iPhone but I'm not in the EU

[sleek kayak]

Okay so I wont have problems selling mine

[crude sandal]

I feel called out, the bottom of my vessis are also a mess

[sleek kayak]

well thats normal for shoes

[granite steeple]

and game streaming services just are not existent where i live

[sleek kayak]

I'd rather spend $500 on a windows gaming handheld

[lament galleon]

paying 310 for a used switch when the steamdeck exists feels criminal

[granite steeple]

i would install linux on it

only if it was legal to demand msft for an OEM license refund

[opal crystal]

well we're getting more steamos handhelds soon 🤔

[sleek kayak]

I play games that require Windows. A few are gachas lol

[opaque tiger]

Ive literally been telling people not to buy them and just wait for switch 2

gotten me yelled at from regional mgmt

[crude sandal]

Treat games with incompatible anticheats as if they don't exist

[olive bronze]

not everyone plays the switch

[granite steeple]

or crack it like I do

[lament galleon]

or dual boat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sleek kayak]

great way to get banned

[lament galleon]

if you're the kind of person throwing linux on your handheld anyway you can probably figure it out

Convenient, no. But if a few windows games are important to you.

[opal crystal]

which gachas don't work with proton? 🤔

[opaque tiger]

TFW i really just need to get a good gaming computer. currently gaming on one of the gateway gaming laptops from forever ago. has a 2060 mobile in it with a i510300h

[granite steeple]

hsr, gfl2, wuwa

[candid juniper]

Linus and Steve now at each other like two kids each at their parents like siblings at each other

[granite steeple]

uhh

i cant list them all on top of my head

[lament galleon]

Didn't EA say screw Linux or something? Whichever company it was was on WAN a while ago.

[granite steeple]

EA and rockstar

[lament galleon]

Rockstar is such a mess I wouldn't have even thought to try XD

[opaque tiger]

rockstar games barely work on windows

[lament galleon]

^

very that

[granite steeple]

true

cant even play gta online without hackers

[lament galleon]

inb4 we get rockstar on linux before GTA VI

[crude sandal]

Eh more like the annoying child throwing punches and the older one trying to ignore it for a while, and then telling them to cut it out

[opal crystal]

isn't GTA online basically just jerryrigged to be playable via p2p with copious amount of duct tape and superglue, instead of having a proper server

[crude sandal]

Feeling very validated about always recommending against bambulabs

[exotic nymph]

just bought an anycubic. glad i steered away from bamboo lab

[sleek kayak]

Why do printers have to be the worst tech in the industry?

[opaque tiger]

greed

[granite steeple]

sell ink

[sleek kayak]

So that printer company allowed third party stuff until now with a software update?

[olive bronze]

just don't buy HP

[opaque tiger]

precisely

[sleek kayak]

We have a canon printer at home

[lament galleon]

Like, am I crazy? I remembered them as being a "hated" brand in the sense that they were expensive and cloud-locked so recommended against by most people for most users, but lately I've seen nothing but love for them. I thought I got Mandelaed or something.

[olive bronze]

so do I! I do have an HP in a box that is dead because I refuse to subscribe

[granite steeple]

xiaohongshu

[sleek kayak]

yeah screw hp. i also want to throw my hyper-x headset because I didn't know it was own by them...

[lament galleon]

My Elegoo rocks too 😎

[sleek kayak]

I didn't do enough research then

[opaque tiger]

i love that the answer to tiktok getting banned, is just go to the sister app that has even better functionality

[olive bronze]

i'm even reluctant to sell the printer because that would mean giving money to hp

[sleek kayak]

similar apps are also getting banned from what i saw

[olive bronze]

i never createed a tiktok account for this very reason

[opaque tiger]

same

[olive bronze]

same with temu

[granite steeple]

linus for PM is crazy

[lament galleon]

Do you have to be Canadian to vote? :P

[sleek kayak]

"printer companies thinking how to make their customers hate them more"

[lament galleon]

"printer companies not gaf about their customers because they have us hostage and can do whatever they want"

while thinking about how much money they're about to make

[sleek kayak]

OIL

[tiny mauve]

Their 3d printers are cool AF tho
MJF is on par with SLS on the coolness factor

[sleek kayak]

A scam company got their feelings hurt

[woeful crescent]

I mean, it SHOULD tickle him.. cause hundreds of thousands of screwdrivers, and tens of thousands of backpacks, still means you've touched very few people..

[sleek kayak]

what???

[lament galleon]

Superchat

[plain aurora]

Troll?

[sleek kayak]

probably lol

Wait 25 people are watching the wan show on facebook? why?? ?

[tulip hatch]

25 people on Facebook GigaChads

[lament galleon]

only 25?

I think we had more last time they called it out

wasn't it streamed on twitter for a little bit there?

[olive bronze]

token facebook users

[lament galleon]

WAN on instagram live when

[lament galleon]

and they all use firefox

[olive bronze]

all of them except the ones that don't

[lament galleon]

exactly

[formal monolith]

What number did he say?

[olive bronze]

it was either an even or an odd number, i am 50% sure

[lament galleon]

I'm gonna need the math behind that

[olive bronze]

i was never good in math

i'm stuck on the spelling of whether its math or maths

[lament galleon]

maths, now with 25% more math

[tulip hatch]

wireless anything sucks confirmed

[olive bronze]

my cable company is offering mesh as an "upgrade" to my wifi

[tulip hatch]

CAT 7 cable ftw!

[woeful crescent]

To add to Lukes story, I had a similar happen with an Intel iMac.. $>2k CAD, "signature required" .. the last mile delivery company left it outside of my apartment.. BUILDING.. while I was home, waiting for it.. gave up waiting left to go get dinner, there it was..

I coulda said it neve came, but I'm an honest sort.. contacted Apple and they gave me a $150 CAD iTunes credit for not making them send a second one :p

I'm with Dan, I want one.. but I'm also not with Dan, cause I'm not gonna get it lol

[olive bronze]

so i got my commuter backpack today. when ordering it i envisioned more of a scaled down backpack, but the commuter is significantly lighter than the original backpack. i wonder how they achieved this

[safe sable]

I think the 3rd (outermost) zippered space on the OG backpack adds a bit of weight compared to the Commuter which moves most of those pockets to the interior cargo space. There's also no side zippered pocket, just simple pockets to fit bottles/umbrellas. I also think the tech space has less padding due to the size and focusing on optimizations from the OG. Even the zipper pulls are technically lighter (though maybe not vs. the titanium ones).

[olive bronze]

the zipper pulls I put a bunch of decorative ones on there

[north haven]

If I google "reddit gamersnexus" what is this?

[safe sable]

whoa...

[woeful crescent]

Google takes a side..

[north haven]

How does google populate that? lol

[woeful crescent]

Probably was the top topic when the robot last looked

Likely deleted and gone now

[north haven]

Meanwhile :

[olive bronze]

yikes

[woeful crescent]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersNexus/comments/1i2o8n7/an_open_letter_to_steve_that_im_sure_wont_be/

[olive bronze]

look i think both of them make their own style content. i personally dont care for steve's style but sometimes he has interesting content. i dont like his voice or delivery, he bores me

[woeful crescent]

Its about halfway down the post

[north haven]

from this giant wall of text, it pulls that sentence? LOL

[safe sable]

wow, haha

[woeful crescent]

Yep.. Google gonna google

[light pollen]

Hey guys! I am sort of late but I saw Linus was really excited about pinballs at CES does anyone know an update on if he is gonna buy one.

[woeful crescent]

Nope

[safe sable]

The Google AI was like "ooo, this part looks juicy, more clicks!"

[woeful crescent]

No update

[olive bronze]

he didnt mention today

[woeful crescent]

They had a full plate today and no one who got a curated merch message asked

[olive bronze]

last i heard he was looking for functionality not collectibility

[woeful crescent]

If he doesn't just build an IRL Space Cadet pinball I will forever think less of him

[olive bronze]

maybe he could get a sponsored pinball

[light pollen]

Im sorry I used to watch him but then I saw he started talking about it and my dad does collect him but then i saw the clip of him saying he wants some for the office and says that he was looking for a game. But he was looking on Facebook Marketplace. I would say that 40% of them are scams tho

so i dont want him to get dissapointed

[olive bronze]

most of the facebook marketplace stuff linus buys is local to him and he picks them up

[light pollen]

Stern PInball (The company that he was talking about) does do commissions rarely but that would be really cool if they did

[light pollen]

Yea but still even there we have gotten close of them posting a really rare game on marketplace and only being 30 minutes away only for them to just not respond and "only do delivery to your house"

[olive bronze]

man these gamersnexus reddit threads really go on and on

[woeful crescent]

They are a lot shorter if you just close them..

Hey look the Switch 2 video Linus talked about is up

Oh wait nevermind just normal techlinkd

[spice cairn]

:0 20 minutes of per WAN on VOD yoooo

[north haven]

I don't pick sides

i just enjoy watching the outrage

[plucky iris]

https://youtu.be/vpR1gw_npDo

[full oriole]

Man I just watched the first 20mins of the WAN show ... I've got so much respect for Linus. His personal growth over the last few years has been an amazing thing to see and something I hope many others aspire to.

[full oriole]

God damn dude

[spice oak]

This was the original video that came out about Honey in 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdMAC61RK7s Nowhere does it mention about replacing referral cookies. It's just about how this business model doesn't make sense and he doesn't trust it.

[full oriole]

I mean I thought Honey was sketchy AF when I first heard of it too and was wondering how tf it would be successful as a business model

[spice oak]

I did too, so I never installed it.

I thought they sold your information to advertising companies of what products you buy, but they denied doing that.

to me the business model has to make sense. And to me honey's business model didn't make sense.

Perhaps that's the reason why I don't like life time licenses with software and websites where you pay for a membership to their service. Because life time doesn't really mean life time.

Before the term life time started getting redefined, it was just a license for the software for the number of years that version was going to be supported for. An example of this is windows 10. It came out on July 15, 2015 and will be supported until October 14, 2025.

You generally didn't get new feature, only bug fixes.

If you wanted new feature, then you should buy the next release of it.

how long can the business last if everyone pays for a life time license? If life time only means a set amount of time like 10 years, then don't call it a life time license.

It also reminds me of when you buy a game on steam that you thought you owned the license for that game, when in fact you didn't, and Valve was forced to admit that recently.

[hearty glade]

Plenty of lifetime license examples that companies have gone back on. Most commonly they change the tiers of payment and slowly degrade the lifetime benefits.

[drifting creek]

GN is basically Tech Church Dogma isn’t it? You either agree with their benchmarks and mindset or you don’t.

LTT didn’t do the “hard hitting reporting that GN did” so as the biggest voice in the community that literally makes them complicity and therefore guilty /s

[spice oak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpR1gw_npDo

[tiny nimbus]

Steve included his initial reply in a post on YouTube, the one that Linus didn’t feel worth reading out on WAN (and I see why, it basically amounts to a promise to escalate) http://youtube.com/post/UgkxhaFZmuIn9Ty0xDhfXMT9i4gxggCvqlzF

[weak isle]

Just watching this the Jan 17th show and SCREAMING about their discussion about succeeding to America. No mention about resolving Indigenous Treaties but yeah, I was 22 years old when I saw my first rat in the NYC Metro, Alberta is rat free lol. Please fam, don't open this can of worms!

Also hi I'm new here though I've watched LTT for years.

[weak isle]

I'm blown away that Linus has no idea what SpinRite is. I've listened to Security Now! since its inception some twenty years ago. SpinRite has saved MANY drives and I've been able to at least recover the data off of them before I tossed them. Steve Gibson is no "meme-ass developer". He knows his shit and has a resume that backs it. I'm genuinely shocked that Linus doesn't know who Steve is.

[spice cairn]

i'll personally take up arms if the US trys to annex us

over my dead body do i want to forcibly become an American citizen

and while Canada isn't perfect by any means.... its not the states

i feel a lot will share this sentiment

[spice oak]

I'm surprised that when asked if Canada joined with the US, Linus and Luke didn't consider that Canada has public healthcare, compared to the mess of a healthcare system that the US has.

[spice cairn]

literally that

tho they have money so thats probably something they don't have to think about

[spice oak]

and the extended healthcare plan at LMG also covers everything they need too

[spice cairn]

yeah

[inner idol]

I actually heard of SpinRite in 2013 when watching old Chris Pirillo videos from January 2008

[worn river]

I got frisky with the gf while watching wan show, linus sex tips is real

[dense nexus]

finally watching the wan show from yesterday

i didn't know people were still talking about the honey scandal

[quaint timber]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[quaint timber]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[forest cargo]

Can't wait to see Linus eat expired cereal when he ends up being wrong about DLSS ai upscaling on the switch 2

[woeful crescent]

Naa, it has nVidia processor, theres no way its not gonna take advantage of an area nVidia excels at.

[plain aurora]

And ai is where technology is at atm so of course it will be there

[forest sparrow]

Does the wan turn into a normal wan after the start of it?

[tiny nimbus]

23 minutes in, yes

[woeful crescent]

You mean is Fridays WANShow just on the Drama? No.. its just what they start with, then go back to normal.. if you can ever call what happens on WANShow normal..

[forest sparrow]

Ok. Thanks 😊

[restive rain]

nah, the entire 3 hour show is a full blown expose on steve

[severe garden]

[forest sparrow]

Oh so it's not worth watching

[restive rain]

(in case it wasnt clear i am joking and its a normal wan show after the first 20 mins)

[forest sparrow]

Ik
-# incase it wasn't clear this means "I know"

[olive bronze]

i can't believe floatplane posted a 5 hour compilation video of tech upgrades.

[woeful crescent]

Welp, at least Steve learned from the last time he responded to LTT with a video he ended up nuking himself.. no response yet.. One can hope hes taking the time to do some reflection, and not just trying to find a way to phase stuff in an unhinged manner..

Only 5hrs?

[olive bronze]

4:59:11 to be exact

i imagine steve's people attempted to calm him down before he did anything rash

[woeful crescent]

I should hope so.. both Steve and Linus really need someone to stand between them and any responses to criticism, to make sure its grounded..

See: Linus's response to Billet Labs, and Steves response to Linus's response :p

[olive bronze]

i'm not sure i understand the drama

[restive rain]

i dont think his twitter response indicated that he was changing, but we shall see what comes of it

[woeful crescent]

The Drama is easy to understand, its just stupid that it exists.

[olive bronze]

if steve is focusing on honey theres dozens of youtubers that pushed them over the past couple of years

[restive rain]

the latest honey thing just seems like its what put linus over the edge

the honey thing is stupid though

[olive bronze]

and steve seems like he won't drop that water block thing

as for the other things, as long as steve isn't an employee of LMG I am not sure how it's any of his business

[restive rain]

the water block thing is extra stupid, it was just a communication problem

[zealous spire]

lol i love how the last weeks wan show just casually has a 30 min yacht/jet shopping segment

[olive bronze]

any company of reasonable size, and both GN and J2C have employees - there's going to be internal strife amongst people. that's an HR issue. if steve wants to lay his HR department bare to the world i'm first in line to watch that video

[lament galleon]

WE HAVE FOOTNOTES NOW?
-# Why did no one tell me this

[arctic girder]

Just watched wan from last night GN just got a lesson in how not to fuck off the big boys lol

[tiny nimbus]

Wonder if anyone’s taking bets on how badly Steve will f— up his response

[arctic girder]

Lmao

[keen bloom]

(respectfully retracted the statement as Louis Rossman has spoken for himselves in a manner which is self-definitive, no unity will be had 😅 )

[arctic girder]

If steve carrys his shit on he will lose his channel quickly and j2c needs to stay out of it

[plain aurora]

How can you not believe it? I can’t believe it wasn’t done sooner

[restive rain]

for like 2 months now lol

[lament galleon]

I'm lucky if I get an update log popup, and when I do it's usually like 6 updates old XD

[restive rain]

discord hardly ever does changelog popups

bu the time you get it its probably already been out to people for a month

[lament galleon]

indeed

[marble frigate]

Louis did actually praise Linus for the "de-Google your life" video striked by YT a while ago. So I don't think he'd say Linus doesn't do enough given the guts it takes to do that on a Google platform 😅

[severe garden]

Tbh i still like Louis, he is really invested in what he believes in. GN on the other hand has just come across as disingenuous in the last year which soured it for me

[tiny mauve]

It's been like 5+ months now, but for some reason it wasn't allowed here for the longest time

[restive rain]

ah yea you right, my bad, i suck at relative time lmao

[fallow nova]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e-983slQG-Y

Spicy video calling Steve out on his BS, but it's 18 months old

[olive bronze]

I used to like GN. They've done some good comparisons like air coolers vs liquid coolers, and their teardown of the steam deck was very detailed. but steve personally i dont like his voice and personal style, i find him boring

[marble frigate]

When he intervened about the backpack warranty in his HW news I was like "since when that's PC hardware 🤨". I still like his tech stuff but I take some of his "investigative" videos with a grain of salt since then.

[olive bronze]

i have trouble understanding that youtuber. i am not sure i view LTT and GN as competitors. They coverage similar tech in the same space, and have similar sponsors. but that doesn't necessarily make them competitors

[lament galleon]

Technically I think they'd be considered competitors. In a broad sense they both exist in the same space and are fighting for views as tech youtubers. There's a lot more to it than that of course. Different niches, and the fact that tech youtubers get along just fine and there's no world in which they're stealing each other's audience by making content in the same space.

[solar glacier]

Thanks the md syntax tutor Skuffy
-# or so I hope this tutorial works

I liked the delivery by Steve of GN but most of their exposés/investigations are hard to watch with the mixing up of facts, assumptions and opinions

[wanton token]

GN recently is more or less farming expose videos

Though I still occasionally watch their hw news recap if it interests me

I personally take all the expose videos a lot less seriously and a lot less as all facts since people wants to be enraged and that's what sells

[woeful crescent]

Ya I like GN when they do actual content.. not the videos where Steve gets all pious and spends an hour beating a dead horse so he can say the same 5 points over and over and over with slightly different phrasing..

[wanton token]

Yeah

I still view GN as a factual content outlet when it comes to performance and straight up statistics, other stuff not so much

[woeful crescent]

His first stuff on EK was good, but as it went on, he gets more and more preachy and theres more and more theater.. even if the video ends up with loads of valid point, like NZXT, its got me skipping through a LOT.

[solar glacier]

And there's the noctua series which puts a good amount of knowledge neatly into one playlist

[wanton token]

I was folding clothes when playing the nzxt video lol

Definitely not primary screen content

[woeful crescent]

I do find it amusing with his recent B570 testing, that he said the issues other outlets have seen in some of their testing with lower end CPU's don't really show up with his selection of games, so too bad, his tests are fine.. not that he'll find some other games to add to his list to check future cards for similar issues..

[wanton token]

GN still goes into depth into some topics that ltt aren't rn which I do appreciate

[woeful crescent]

Cause normally hes very on the ball for issues and such, so deciding not to persue it in the future seems really out of character..

But whatever, other outlets have it covered.

[wanton token]

As Linus says, use multiple sources

[woeful crescent]

Its not a big deal for me, I have a 13th gen i7, so I have my own issues unrelated to older slower GPU's :p

*CPU's

[wanton token]

Getting hanged on one source alone is dangerous and quite frankly, stupid imo.
Also personally dislike the tech Jesus comments on his videos, it was a bit entertaining at first but now it feels like a bit cultish

That is I feel like some people are putting GN in a level where they could seemingly do no wrong

[tulip hatch]

Took part of multiple sources telling Linus was a douchebag for not sounding the big alarm horn for Honey stealing ref links money

Now, refunder.se (now owned by TopCashback) has always said don't have any extensions installed or click anything after going to the purchase page
Otherwise your ref link("affiliate") money may not be registered, be stolen by someone else, so this was all old news to me.

Friendly regards, big believer of YouTubers don't deserve any of your ref link money, they can just get a real job.

[wanton token]

I won't say youtuber is not a real job, because if we apply that then any people that provides "entertainment" does not have a real job

[wanton token]

oops didnt see the new wanshow

sorry

[forest frigate]

Lol

[wanton token]

peak

[lament galleon]

Jeff has been in on this too??? I can't believe it. All my favorite youtubers crumbling around me 😭

[spice oak]

and the clip of Linus's response to Steve is up for those who don't watch the wanshow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDd5X1eE_n0

[tiny mauve]

https://youtu.be/sH0Qda32IKM

[spice oak]

But look at the pinned comment. Linus does clarify he should have said the water block from billet labs may fit.

But then brings back his original argument on why he didn't want to do a complete review of the billet labs water block, that Yvonne and David disagreed with him on. I thought from the follow up originally with the week in reflection that he had changed his mind back then, guess not.

I wish he had only said the first part and not the second part here, as Steve will probably use this in their response to this.

[woeful crescent]

I was never happy with the BilletLabs video, or just justification on WANShow.. which loops back to BOTH Linus and Steve have their own list of issues..

[crude sandal]

Crumbling? The only one crumbling right now is Steve

[lament galleon]

(I was kidding)

[limber acorn]

I can't believe Linus hates luke and dan so much

[tender prism]

If I recally correctly, one of my bigger issues with how GamersNexus criticized LTT is that they refused any opportunities for discussion or explanation by LTT. I don't think they did that with other examples such as NewEgg where they openly begged for comment.

I believe GamersNexus' argument for not allowing the same courtesy to LTT is that LTT would've had time to prepare a response for their gotcha journalism. For that, I condemn GamersNexus and their shoddy journalism.

[tiny nimbus]

Dr Ian Cuttress makes that point very eloquently in his thorough (long but zero filler) video from the time of the initial fallout https://youtu.be/Ez9uVSKLYUI

GN’s argument was that reaching out to LMG would have given LMG time to destroy evidence and cover up the situation, which is just wild

[woeful crescent]

Indeed, GN already had any evidence, and unless someone was taking legal action, theres nothing else they could get from LMG that wasn't volunteered to begin with..

[quasi crow]

I disagree with Linus and I do think he needs to look at litigation if GN doesn’t drop it

[woeful crescent]

He won't.. its not worth it. Any legal action will cost more in both cash and PR than the harm GN can ever cause..

[lament galleon]

Yeah, that'd be a pretty terrible PR move, even if it were valid in the scenario.

[tiny nimbus]

I agree with Linus when he says that litigation is a huge waste of everyone’s time and money. 20-minute response segments on WAN Show are much less expensive to produce

[quasi crow]

The problem is it’s severely damaged Linus’ brand and continues to do over borderline defamation that’s a big issue

[tender prism]

Yes exactly this. What a wild and dumb conjecture for GN to make

[woeful crescent]

Ya but taking legal action will only bring a spotlight and damage his brand even more.. atm GN mostly preaching to people who already dislike LMG

[quasi crow]

Not that it’s valid but the overall public opinion of LTT has fallen off a cliff since this started

[tiny nimbus]

Which, if Steve continues to toe that line, should result in a cease & desist at most

[woeful crescent]

Also a large part of LMG's PR hit was Madison, and nothing will fix that damage..

[quasi crow]

I think a C&D is valid

[quasi crow]

I honestly am not sure that’s true at this point?

[tender prism]

Like I said before, I fully support GN's decision to investigate and criticize LTT. GN denying LTT's comments and response seemed to me that it was because of a personal bias and anymosity against LTT

[woeful crescent]

We'll never know, its 100% he said she said.. all we know is that theres been no evidence against LMG, but that doesn't mean it never happened either.. which is why LMG can never rix the damage, cause its unprovable.. you'll never remove the doubt.

[quasi crow]

Correct but I feel like that’s been mostly forgotten about?

[tender prism]

We know 100% that GN refused to give LTT the ability to comment or respond because GN said so. GN claimed it was because LTT might have time to prepare and destroy evidence. We don't know what the real reason but the reason given was dumb

[woeful crescent]

Also sending a C&D to Steve will do nothing, he'll challange it cause he has a strong case defense too, its a coin toss legal case and not worth it to persue..

[quasi crow]

Steve couldn’t sue back

he’d look like a big baby

[woeful crescent]

Most people I know that don't like LMG either didn't like Linus even before Billet Labs/GN, and or belive theres more to Madison.. neither group are ever returning or changing opinions..

[tiny nimbus]

I would hope that GN has good counsel that would see a C&D and impress upon Steve the need to stfu

[tender prism]

Anyway, I'm glad Linus is talking about this. How GamersNexus treated LTT bothered me a lot. It reeked of unprofessionalism, personal anymosity etc

[quasi crow]

I don’t think the BilletLabs thing was appropriate and I think Linus f-ed it up how he handled it

I think many other YouTubers have done far worse and gotten away with it

I can point to the MKBHD speeding recently which could’ve literally killed someone

Or other YouTubers knowingly promoting bad quality products from channel partners

[tiny nimbus]

Nobody came out of that situation smelling like roses. Not GN, neither LMG, nor Billet Labs.

[woeful crescent]

Steve could not sue but just win the case.. Going after someone presenting as media is always a gamble in the courts.. in which case Linus just gives him a huge platform, and gets more bad PR.. sure Steve gets bad PR too, but that doesn't actually HELP LMG at all.. it just hurts everyone, and costs money.

[quasi crow]

It sounded like a lot of miscommunication

[woeful crescent]

Thats why talking any legal action here is useless.. theres no winning.

[quasi crow]

Happens

[quasi crow]

The way to win is for GN to drop it

[woeful crescent]

Even if you win the case more people than before will still dislike you

[quasi crow]

Which as long as he’s doing this is putting Linus on defense

[woeful crescent]

LMG is always gonna be on the defensive, it comes with being where they are, and its foolish to think taking legal action after someone will stop it.. and thats asuming LMG even wins..

[spice oak]

Yes we now know the billet labs water block being auctioned off was due to miscommunication. What I didn't know was that billet labs had approved for LTT to test it out on a 4090. But if it was designed for a 3090, you would think LTT would have done that too, not given up when it didn't work well on a 4090. Yvonne and David said it should have also been tested on a 3090 since it was designed for that. But it seems Linus still disagrees.

[tiny nimbus]

Yvonne acknowledged in the “what do we do now” video that the $500 in extra man-hours to retest with a 3090 would have been worth pushing the video, and told Linus as much. It was a symptom of their self-imposed daily video release commitment

I don’t think Linus will ever see the value in spending so much time building a system with such a niche and expensive block cooler though

This is the guy who’s still riding the high from his Tonight Show appearance but still found time to point out that it cost him three days of shooting time for regular LMG content

[spice oak]

correct

[woeful crescent]

And thats when contacted you just pass on the opportunity.. Do it right, or at least with the intent of doing it right, or not at all..

[tiny nimbus]

Or just wait until logistics can source a 3090 for the build. Mistakes were made, nobody’s perfect, etc etc etc

[woeful crescent]

Its one thing to make an honest mistake in testing a product or making a video, its another to go in not caring.. which Linus openly admitted too on wanshow.

[crude sandal]

and the extra cost of it being between two countries

[lament galleon]

They also left the daily upload schedule behind in favor of improving their content (over a year ago). They are working to improve and make sure mistakes and content quality issues aren’t being caused by a rushed upload schedule.

[molten vector]

I guess my comment into the fray — not that it’ll matter — is that Steve looks exhausted as of late. I thought so prior to all this, and when I was watching his video on bringing yet another lawsuit, in which he stated he was working over 100 hours a week… I mean, like, why not just join the Wendover/Eagle Team lawsuit??

The GN community post has some really constructive feedback that I think is worth reading because it comes from his audience.

My main takeaway is that it seems that Linus wants to go back to vibing and Steve really doesn’t.

but… who knows? Maybe Steve will make a video afterwards like “Hey, I’m gonna try to not work 100-hour weeks now” and then they do a collab and all will be well. One can only hope

[true bison]

I think Steve wanted to be on Fallon.

[forest frigate]

Steve needs to train up a proper co-host, the guy needs a break.

[raven mirage]

Steve working more hours is not the solution

[tiny mauve]

Steve needs a "I've been thinking of retiring" stream

[plain aurora]

So 100 hour weeks would mean sleep deprived which there is a ton of certified research that talks about how it affects sleep, diet, energy, mood etc. not good.

[inner idol]

We don't need another Red Dead Redemption 2-era Rockstar moment here

[plain aurora]

Reference went over my head

[inner idol]

Just because there was a crunch over there and at Telltale in 2018 doesn't mean everybody needs to crunch

[plain aurora]

Heck I want to know why the crunch

[inner idol]

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/18/17995214/rockstar-employees-developers-overworked-harsh-work-conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T53A6B95Za0

[inner idol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIrzSkcCiiY

[plain aurora]

Yeah a game isn’t worth that. One of my favorite series suffered from that too. Legend of heroes

But yeah Steve can if he wanted train up a host and let his team do some of the work and get his work life balance back. Or his body is going to do it for him.

Dying from exhaustion is a thing.

[tender prism]

Boogie reference. Haven't seen that guy in a while

[cursive tiger]

were they to join as a state it's not entirely unimaginable that they could still keep the public healthcare going on a state level

[tender prism]

Canada's healthcare system is better than the US in general, but it's far from perfect. I gotta wait months for spots

[elfin siren]

what did dan mean by the rare first gen switch that can 'do the thing'

[versed grail]

The early switches had a hardware level vulnerability that allowed them to be modded much more easily than later ones, iirc.

[lament galleon]

^ this, just gotta be careful what you say before Nintendo sues you.

[wanton token]

i still remember me waiting 13 hours for a operation that only needed less than 3 minutes

and its not even a hard one

literally give me a pair of clean scissors and i can do it myself

[woeful crescent]

Theres no perfect system.. but I for one gladly take a long wait in exchange for snacks and parking being the extent of my bill.

[spice oak]

Yes, you do gotta wait for a specialist sometimes in Canada for medical stuff. But for general stuff, it's not that long at all to see your family doctor.

[woeful crescent]

If you have a family doctor.. lots in at least my region don't.. and hospital wait times start at 6hrs unless you are literally dying..

[trim obsidian]

I have a feeling they didn't get the full history. Unless it was a WAN viewer anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=892yaBEwtbM

[plain aurora]

its easier to work with for homebrew, you know the PS3s that can do linux and backwards compatiblity.

[tender prism]

Yeah people (mostly US citizens) talk about Canada's healthcare system being all that but in reality, it's a two-tier system in disguise

If you know, you know

[random trout]

Without getting into the weeds...

• "Broke your arm? No prob - emergency will get you a cast and you'll likely be mended in 3-12 months depending on where the break hapepned."
• "Showing signs of pre-mature hip failure? Too bad. Join the waitlist along with everyone else and we might have an opening in 2-7 business years."
  Basically, if it's an emergency oopsie diddle, the ER can likely attend to you. Otherwise, if it's premature failure (hips, knees, non-life threatening health condition, major dental surgery), you'll just have to deal with it until it becomes life threatening, at which point it'll cost the healthcare system at least 3x what it would have cost had it been prevented in the first place. 👍 🤣 😢 I'm hoping one day we'll actually be able to streamline things using technology so everyone has timely access to the healthcare they need to live a longer, more prosperous life.

[plain aurora]

I think NZ copied Canada orrrrrrrr.... you copied us. That sounds pretty much like here.

need antibotics or broke a bone? ezzzy, things that are yet to break but are pending to break... plz hold.

it took 14 months for me to get the out paitent surgery needed to diagnose Coeliac Disease, you know the one that i needed funding to get food and can lead to well bowel cancer.

[timid ruin]

Tbh this is how it is in Europe pretty much anywhere, often including private healthcare as well. Some simple procedures or certain specialists are relatively easy to get to, but even a CT scan might have a few months' long list (again, if it isn't an emergency or childbirth or someone with high risk health situation...etc). Larger companies typically offer private health plans, where you actually might get to see a specialist on a short notice (depending on the specialist and healthcare centre etc), and certain procedures are handled completely separately anyway (opthalmology, dentists, vaccination etc). I think in a state funded system there's only so much you can do, especially if you live in areas where there's a hiatus of medical professionals, especially for highly populated areas. Some countries handle this somewhat better, but generally it will always depend on availability of resources, at which point the urgency will need to be standardised, and there's generally an equity amongst patients as for how fast you can get to see someone from the public sector.

The system is designed to aid anyone who pays taxes and thus has basic health coverage. If you can afford it, there's always a paid alternative, however.

[frozen agate]

I've been dealing with medical ignorance and government bureaucracy since I was 12. I'm 22 now.

I've been visiting the docs every couple of months for well into the decade now, always with the same issue, which is my joint pains. The docs refuse to do blood tests, CT scans, xrays, anything that will actually give me an answer that is valid. They always tell me it "It can't be arthritis, you're too young", and instead try to tell me it is growing pains or some other issue, which it never is. I've changed doctors 12 times because of ignorance and incompetence, and honestly, part of me wishes I earned enough to afford private care, because at least then I'd stand a chance at getting some tests done to get a diagnosis for the pains which have taken away my ability to enjoy the world for almost half of my life.

[true bison]

What a difference a few years makes.
Healthcare workers and hospitals in Canada were being applauded for their dedication to a pandemic that destroyed our world as we knew it, which in turn put stress on an already bent but not broken system, to now people complaining about the existence of the healthcare system as we know it (in Canada).

Do you know that the hospital I work at has 500 + backordered or subbed items for medical supplies… that’s doctors and nurses still having to figure out new ways to use equipment because their regular tools aren’t available.

Also,.. all those procedures over the pandemic got pushed back,

[frozen agate]

a significant amount of them did here, but it was mostly the non-emergency ones getting pushed back

emergency ones they did their best

[marble frigate]

Having to plead for blood work is insane, my family doc has me take one each year now (granted I'm 40) but it's a good preventative measure imo

[random trout]

Oh my complaints aren't new, nor are they swayed by the pandemic, nor are they directed at the staff who actually get things done and save lives - everyone is working damn hard within their means with the resources they have. Comparatively, we still have it pretty good here, but it's not unicorns and rainbows as some think it might be.
The opportunity to unify certain things (insurance claim systems, interprovincial health records, or heck, even my doctor's office's excruciatingly hard to use digital appointment system) with technology is what I'm all about. It won't magically fix things overnight, but would at least free up people to work on other things. Technology is great, but we don't always use it right.

[tiny mauve]

Technology is great, but we don't always use it right.

Case in point, me using discord rn instead of working on the many projects I have to submit by next week.

[cursive tiger]

well you say that, a few years ago my mum broke her ankle in all three places (i don't remember what the medical term for it is but your foot is basically attached by the skin) and spent three weeks in the queue for emergency surgery, being nil by mouth most of the time

i don't have anything against the fracture surgeon, of which there was only one in dunedin, working 16 hour days to try get through the sheer volume of patients, i have a problem with the whole system that resulted in there only being the one surgeon in a hospital that covers about 200 thousand people

[plain aurora]

We have a long long way to go before it’s better

[tiny mauve]

Tech Man Buys Remote Ranch: Linustown beaten to the punch.

https://youtu.be/4vNfwvcxD48

[olive bronze]

steve dropped a video today where he talks about why he's not going to talk about the conflict and he's starting a brand new channel and offloading consumer advocacy to it

he calls it GNCA

[woeful crescent]

https://gamersnexus.net/gn-extras/our-response-linus-sebastian

[severe garden]

Pissing contest

[woeful crescent]

I say they settle this like meh.. when they meet up in May, both bring their own PC and fight it out on counterstrike, most kills and best 1% lows wins.

Also, I think someone locked Steve in his hemi-anechoic chamber for the weekend to give him time to chill.. less we get a repeat of the last time he responded directly to LMG.

[severe garden]

splashback

[woeful crescent]

Also I don't see him cover the whole reason this kicked off again, his inclusion of a clip from wanshow in his honey video without proper context.. and since he was talking about pinned comments and such for WANShow stuff, I see nothing redacted or clarified in his OG shot at Linus over BilletLabs, even though everyone agrees there was more to it and the original video.

[severe garden]

No one comes out good from this
but it did seem like linus wanted to at least kinda settle it

while steve seems like he'd rather sling shit and see what sticks

like with this response he has like no intention of rebuilding anything

[woeful crescent]

I think Steve may have realized it was starting to backfire.. The OG one we got away with fairly unscathed.. though a few didn't like his rational for not reaching out and all.. and while hes made a couple minor shots at LMG since, they were, well, minor.. no one really cared.. this was the first time he took a shot across the bow again, and he was getting called out left right and center, even before Linus got on WANShow..

So I think, and hope, he realized that acting like this might hurt Linus, but its hurting him too..

And LMG can absorb a lot more.

They are never gonna be friends again, thats clear.. a meetup might clear the are enough that they both shake hands on never speaking of the other again.

[severe garden]

Tbh kinda wild this all stemmed from (well this recent pop up of this) being semi transparent about dropping honey instead of completly silently dropping them like you know, every other creator that was sponsored by honey

its like why bother if its only to be used as fuel against you in some meanlingless battle in which yourself are a victim of

[tender prism]

I'm glad GamersNexus is getting more flak for this. They've done a lot of good work investigating in the space but they've clearly got a personal vendetta against LTT especially with how unfairly they treated their journalism of LTT compared to how they would've investigated other companies.

I called it out before and I'm just happy people are starting to see it

[woeful crescent]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with GN a lot in their deep dives on other companies, but even in those they often make a lot of questionable decisions and conclusions..

[olive bronze]

they also complained about some shared content, but if two companies review the same hardware they're likely to get the same results

especially if they are both limited by the same embargo

[woeful crescent]

To be fair it does sound like someone at LTT watched the GN video and went point by point when making talking points for WANShow.. its a justified complaint, one Linus said hed speak to his team about.. and pinned a comment.. I guess that comment didn't get moved over when it went to clips, but thats likely cause Linus doesn't do those.. so someone didn't notice it.. sending another msg would have been appropriate, vs what it seems like it was one of several things he's stewed on for years..

[neon ivy]

There could have been a number of errors. Intentional plagiarism, unintentional plagiarism, the writer forgot to include the citation. The emails looked like Steve made Linus aware of the issue and Linus addressed it. Steve just doesn't seem to agree with how it was communicated externally, with just a pinned comment thanking Jay and Steve for their reporting

[frank tree]

I'm confused on how the honey scandal turned into this shitshow now. Everything was dead silent before and now we have to go back to this again?

[neon ivy]

I don't know. Steve decided that Linus and LLT should've done more or things differently, even though there is no indication LTT knew anything that wasn't public information.

[woeful crescent]

A guy made a video about Honey, telling us a lot of stuff most people new/suspected, along with proof of their ill deeds.. in it he called out Linus for dropping them and not saying anything cause they knew some of what was happening.. that gave cover for Steve to bring up his grudge with Linus and take a comment from Linus on a WANShow out of context in HIS video going after Honey.. and bigo, drama ensues..

[edgy girder]

“This is far beyond presenting a front of friendliness, and I am respectfully requesting that Linus Sebastian drops that facade publicly, as well as ceases the repeated personal emails requesting as much, as it is personally making me extremely uncomfortable.”
…
“Given the legal nature of Linus Sebastian’s allegations though and on advice of our attorneys, we are neither willing nor able to discuss this specific topic further, and any further contact related to this matter will instead be forwarded to GamersNexus, LLC’s attorneys if a response is necessary. “

Steve is flat out done with Linus it seems. I saw some criticizing Linus of reading a script (which, duh) but this is about as lawyered up as I’ve ever seen GN. So this has been bubbling under the surface even if we haven't really been seeing it. I wonder what has been said about the modmat as Linus has been very clear in stating that they worked with original creator, as obviously modmats have kind of been GN's thing. Also pretty sure GNCAinvestigates is more about keeping the main channel separate from potential legal issues as it was started yesterday.

Sorry, been wanting to get this off my chest a bit, but not in youtube comments.

[woeful crescent]

Its all GN so separating the channels doesn't help legally.. it does help keep the comment sections separate, cause I think he noticed there is a sharp divide in his viewers and the ones here for technical stuff are tired of drama.. Also, I think its clear one of Steves lawyers likely told him that what Linus said wasn't an empty threat, and that he needs to be careful, or silent, because simply throwing around the word journalism doesn't protect you.

Now I don't see Linus doing anything unless forced, as I've said before, legal route is lose lose for everyone, both money and public perception.. But who knows where Terran draws that line?

[mossy socket]

But who knows where Terran draws that line?
"This shit is stupid."

[woeful crescent]

Oh for sure, its a shitshow.. but his job is to look out for LMG the company.. not Linus's ego or pride.

[edgy girder]

If you are a media company, attacks on your credibility and your primary presenter are a pretty big deal.

[wanton token]

I feel like most of the points here aren't exactly good

Like I don't think private text is exactly a place where professional communication is needed

[woeful crescent]

Most issues he posted are summed up for me as "communicate better".. The most malicious thing he accuses Linus of was saying Steve isn't as Genuine as he used to be on a phonecall.. which I agree with, and I don't find all that malicious..

[wanton token]

What is likely is they are probably gonna resolve it privately and the best outcome is probably both sides agree to not touch each other more

[woeful crescent]

Or not resolve it at all (cause both Linus and Steve have pride that gets in the way of judgement) but still both come to the conclusion to shut up about it.. honestly I feel Linus was already there, but this most recent call out made him feel compelled to respond.

[wanton token]

Yeah

[severe garden]

Yeah I feel the same however it's hard to leave something unturned if the other party keeps jabbing at you

[valid rock]

LMG's best response is no response what-so-ever. Don't give it the time of day

[severe garden]

The problem is you only get so far with that

[valid rock]

If it gets to the point where response is required it won't come from any public channel

And by "channel" I'm not speaking of YouTube explicitly. More along the lines of any public space

It becomes C&D first then suits are filed and that would be an outcome that harms everyone

[woeful crescent]

That would be the smartest thing, but both Linus and Steve have egos and pride that overrides that at times.. the way not responding would work would be both would have to stfu.. cause I don't think either can help it is they feel (justified or not) provoked..

[valid rock]

LMG has a CEO that sits outside of that personal relationship and the owner of LMG would be wise to listen to their CEO

I believe we as a public forum got the first taste of that influence last week

[woeful crescent]

Linus SHOULD listen to Terran, 100%.. thats not to say he always will. Linus speaks his mind, and will post replies and such when he really shouldn't.. Its just accepting the reality of the people involved.

I think if someone gets to him in time to make him wait, then he does.. but if he just stumbles across something scrolling on his phone or late night alone thats another story..

[valid rock]

He is only human that is very true

[woeful crescent]

And I can't fault him for it, we're all flawed humans.. I too do things that if I spent 5 min thinking about it, I wouldn't, but in the moment felt compelled..

Hes not someone so big that someone keeps him from directly interacting with the rest of the world..

[valid rock]

Looking at past patterns of behavior that is something that could take place

Looking holistically it appears that there are now either person, persons or a retainer for PR

Which I would imagine came from a directive from the CEO

[woeful crescent]

I think a lot of that is Terran himself too.. he doesn't have the same personal stake as the guy with his name on everything..

So he can be far more objective.. also comes with far more experience at being that way too

[valid rock]

Agreed

[woeful crescent]

Hring him was a smart move

[valid rock]

Agreed

This has been a very unfortunate series of events and GN has had and still has the opportunity to self-reflect and hopefully realize that this ship can still be corrected

Ultimately this is self-destructive behavior and from a human perspective it is disheartening to see

[woeful crescent]

I don't see Steve doing that.. his personality seems to be to double down.. I think having his lawyers get between him and a camera over this is about as good as we can get, maybe he can accept the point that not talking about it anymore is the best move for all involved.. but who can say. I CAN Say I hope Linus doesn't provoke in anyway.. intentional or not.. honestly I think next WANShow his comment should be accepting the offer to meet up.. and then NOTHING else. Period. No going through GN's list of issues, nada..

[valid rock]

I unfortunately agree with your point of view. He has publicly stated that he plays trading card games and knowing that community intimately being part of it those personality types never can see themselves as anything other than right

[bronze estuary]

Yes PLEASE stop talking about. Best case, say on WAN Show you've moved to discussing things privately and thats it.

[valid rock]

My opinion would be that no acknowledgement is done and the WAN show proceeds as normal

Not giving them attention would be the largest win

[bronze estuary]

Either or works for me tbh I just feel like Linus will feel like he has to say SOMETHING even if it's truly nothing

[woeful crescent]

No, He needs to say something, cause he flat out asked for a response last WAN.. Just agreeing to the meeting (where hopefully they can sort out some of the communication issues 1:1, then agree not to be friends and not to talk about eachother) is all the response thats needed.. Saying Nothing at all wouldn't be right, and going down the list is just making things worse.. you have your meeting to talk it out, which is something Linus has basically said hes wanted for a while.. take it, then go talk about AI and shit..

[valid rock]

I disagree but ultimately that doesn't mean anything

[woeful crescent]

And Luke being at the meeting would be good, cause hes super calm, and tries to see all sides

[valid rock]

Not saying you're wrong just that I disagree

We shall see what we shall see

Thank you for the conversation I don't have personal connections that would understand this topic!

[woeful crescent]

Enough Drama IRL, nice to have some thats internet only 🙂

[valid rock]

Working for a company that is linked to another one that has a huge PR presence warps my perception sometimes

PGA to be clear

[bronze estuary]

Also very fair point lol. Ill be glad when all this is over tbh

[woeful crescent]

Oh its never over.. but if it can sleep for a couple of years that would be nice..

[edgy girder]

If I read GN's response correctly, they're unwilling to discuss this matter further and have attorneys involved, so I don't think they're going to have a one on one. I don't see how they could talk about communication without falling back to this topic. I think this will go quiet for a while.

[onyx burrow]

Honestly, as much as this all has been a good diversion rabbit-hole for my brain, zooming out even a little bit makes most of the GN/LMG drama utterly absurd

[valid rock]

My umbridge with it is that ultimately it doesn't matter

[woeful crescent]

Even if somehow Linus and Steve can feel its over, theres always community drama and such that'll trigger someone at some point.. a reprieve is what we need.

[valid rock]

Potential wan topic of large (multi million user) subreddits banning the website formerly known as twitter

[woeful crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[valid rock]

Anything to drive traffic and revenue away from the platform

[woeful crescent]

And I would post the exact same thing if it was the reverse too :p

[valid rock]

This is a Canadian ran organization but something like that would have potential impact in general

Whether or not anyone agrees with it or not would be a discussion

[tiny mauve]

.

If that doesn't work then it's time to duel. Get out your mouses and keyboards, you'll settle this one-on-one on a bo15 in CS

[valid rock]

Quake 3

[cursive tiger]

"oh it's fine that we don't give linus right to respond, he's wrong about us giving it to everyone else"
THIS IS PARAPHRASING NOT AN ACTUAL QUOTE
that doesn't exactly help anything

[restive rain]

crazy that they claim its ok to not follow best practices on LTT because they dont do it for others lol

i agree with that others have said about the response though, no one comes out looking good

[cursive tiger]

steve has his own values and his own idea of the right way to do things, and linus (and importantly the other people within lmg) have their own slightly different sets of values that led them to respond to certain situations slightly differently to how steve would, therefore they're evil and anticonsumer

[forest frigate]

I want Ian Cuttress to make another video 😂

[frozen stone]

just read the GN thing, my favorite thing about the article is that he had a 500 word essay which boils down to "linus texted the wrong number"

[cursive tiger]

yup

[frozen stone]

also, maybe i dyslexic'd this thing but whats the reasoning behind steve only wanting to meet with linus if luke is there?

/only meet with luke?

[cursive tiger]

i think you might have dyslexic's

idk

iu didn't pay much attention to the article

oh

it's about the labs specifically

which luke is interim ceo of

[frozen stone]

oh

so he just wanna talk about labs?

cool cool

[valid rock]

He likely would try to lure him away

Which is a plan

[woeful crescent]

Its clear Steve doesn't like Linus and doesn't trust him.. Luke is fairly level heated, so I think he wants another person in any meeting with Linus who probably won't spin things.. and will be fairly honest about what went down..

Not that I'm saying Linus will lie, but Steve thinks he would..

And honestly I think Luke seems to have better memory for stuff than Linus a lot of times..Honestly its a good call for both to have someone else there..

Without dragging in another creator to pay mediator or something

Cause no one sane wants to jump in on this

[violet lance]

Will he ever shut the frick out?

[woeful crescent]

Not likely.. but based on the page it seems hes got legal advice to knock it off.

[violet lance]

I'm starting to hate Steve and GN

[woeful crescent]

I still like his reviews.. its the other stuff that tends to be hit or miss..

[violet lance]

I'm referring to GN Steve

[woeful crescent]

Or are you? dun Dun DUNNNNnnnnn

[dreamy pilot]

I can only imagine what messages like this are doing to his mental health. I know the messages are not about me but seeing my name attached to (and often much worse) messages like this has been weirdly depressing the last week lol

[violet lance]

I'm referring to Steve from Gamers Nexus

[violet lance]

Do you remember that joke that says that F1 is the best for curing insomnia? Well, it's kinda similar to me and Gamers Nexus' videos

[odd grail]

Hate ain’t the way. Drama isn’t healthy for anyone — sometimes it’s best to just move on and stop paying it any mind.

[dreamy pilot]

I have a teething toddler so I'm probably as sleep deprived as the other Steve too

[edgy plank]

I’ve always been neutral to ‘em, but i lean to just avoid ‘em

[woeful crescent]

ya theres people I hate, none of them are doing stuff on youtube.. dislike is a whole other story..

Most of the ones I hate are or belong locked up..

[violet lance]

He's not the same level as other people I hate (Currently, IDK if Steve is Repu), but I still got to hate him

[terse plank]

I mean, you don't

you can just ignore them and move on

[trim obsidian]

But what about other other Steve?

[dreamy pilot]

I haven't seen much of him after he was possessed by Jack Black

[crude sandal]

Oh fun the salty one that needs a haircut has dug his heels in and chosen to die on this hill

[crude sandal]

Of course, he's only going to pick the points he thinks he can actually defend

[crude sandal]

Lol Steve realises he's dug the hole too deep and is now hiding behind lawyers

[crude sandal]

You can only take so many public hits before having to say something

[woeful crescent]

Not sure so much hes hiding behind them.. more likely one of the lawyers he works with gave him the heads up that hes in a dangerous spot if he keeps going..

[tiny nimbus]

Did anyone else read through this whole thing before immediately calling a waaaahhhhmbulance for Steve?

He seized upon a line in one of Linus’s texts calling out Steve for being “less autistic than usual,” but the article reads like a full-blown meltdown

[crude sandal]

Steve should eat some bread

Sounds like he needs it

[tiny nimbus]

🍞

[crude sandal]

Anyone in his area able to drop some off?

[tiny nimbus]

He’s not saying it, but he’s probably mad that he missed out on the Bread Plush drop that year

[crude sandal]

[cursive tiger]

it also doesn't really help the big corporate image he pushes of lmg

[crude sandal]

It's hilarious

[safe river]

This bit really throws me. They themselves acknowledge there's no proof or evidence, so what is this if not slander

"We also allege that there were derogatory comments made by Linus Sebastian in a conversation with Steve Burke on a private phone call on August 31, 2021 at 7:31 PM Eastern lasting 9m 43s, where Sebastian referred to Burke as being “less autistic than you used to be;” however, with no recording of said call, this can only be alleged and there is no additional evidence to provide"

Literally he said she said mud slinging. I've lost all respect for GN over this

And Steve sites his own made up journalistic values, when part of the point was that you don't just get to make up values and call yourself a journalist

Genuinely don't know what he thinks he's getting out of this. It appears like a personal vendetta, and makes Steve look totally unprofessional

Paired with the comments bragging about working 100 hour weeks, I think he's lost all subjectivity. GN used to be a great source of objective reporting but over the last few years seems to have strayed more and more into projection and reading bad intent into everything

[frozen agate]

Truth be told, the best way to pick your side is to just stop giving airtime in your life to the drama at all, and vote with your eyeballs on who you think is in the right here.

This whole chat has been almost nothing but LTT vs GN since Friday night, and honestly if you have an opinion to offer chances are it was already shared and discussed to death in that time. Can we go back to being happy and ignoring this until Computex when we actually might get new information that people didn't already expect?

Not saying that nobody is wrong, and im sure as hell not choosing sides here, all im saying is that giving this topic airtime at all is only fuelling the flames that are keeping it going. Vote with your eyes, and your subscriptions, instead of the endless whinging here about he said she said stuff that we realistically do not have any real context to justify, from either side of the quandry.

Now, have this cat picture. Let's discuss how adorable it clearly is

[mossy socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-kitty-cute-cat-cat-cat-kiss-white-cat-gif-15161572572895526477

[dreamy pilot]

That honestly looks likes a poorly laid trap to drag the drama out. Wait for Linus to say he never said that then release the audio.

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[past nimbus]

I too become "extremely uncomfortable" when someone tries to de-escalate the synthetic drama I've manufactured to drive views to my channel

[tiny mauve]

Working 100 hour weeks ain't a brag. That's just plain stupid and possibly part of why he's going cray-cray

Also, using the "less artistic" comment in this tells me 2 things:
1 - this is 110% personal
2 - he actually felt offended by it, and he probably got bullied as a kid for being autistic

[void pivot]

This doesn’t surprise me considering the comments he drops during reviews and on his news show. Compared to others in the space, no one else throws around the amount of digs he does at companies and individuals of those companies.

[keen bloom]

im ngl, you guys need to go outside, there are more important things in life than some petty corporate squable

[versed quarry]

I've been out of the loop for a few days. So... are 5090s actually good or what?

[void pivot]

Reviews drop tomorrow

[plain aurora]

And they are going up be in limited supply too.

I thought we were done with the chip shortage or is there still parts of it there?

[past nimbus]

Smallest generational improvement in nvidia gpus ever

[plain aurora]

Tbh I’m team intel atm yes they got to catch up but man I am impressed with what they are doing and we do need a third party in the GPU wars.

Anyone know if anyone does gpu reviews for people in the creative space? I ahem use Adobe more than gaming but still do gaming so….

(Before you suggest alts etc I’m on Adobe for teams, part of my job)

[tender prism]

When he covered Linus, it was pretty clear that GamersNexus has a bias against LTT for some reason. I respected GamersNexus journalism before but I've never seen them treat an entity with such disrespect. It's like they think LTT are actual criminals. They denied any comment or any chance for LTT to respond or even explain anything.

GamersNexus made up their mind that LTT was evil and they were doing everything in their power to prevent LTT from having a voice in that investigation to even just explain things.

[leaden wadi]

That's a good point. I'd kill to see what comms have been going on back and forth b/w terran and ls with all this. Like surely he has to be in support of at least some part of this, with how manicured ls's statement on the wan show were, right?

[plain aurora]

tbh the WAN show segmant was def a script

[spice flax]

Drama = views, full stop.
Rap battle between Kendrick and Drake = views.
Bezos / Musk
Gates / Jobs
Trump / Clinton
Depp / Heard

The list probably goes on.

[timid ruin]

I totally get you, I only use Adobe for documentation, but there's literally nothing that really replaces the compatibility and functionality. But also, I get it via work for free (well, free for me that is), so yeah.
I assume you're using the Creative Cloud apps for work?

[plain aurora]

Yes, part of a team that does. I have cut my teeth on as a teenager, moving would take a ton of relearning

So I design and edit podcasts with it

Acrobat alone is a beast

[leaden wadi]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15yg5w6/ill_just_drop_this_meme/?utm_name=web3xcss

I cant stop laughing help

[timid ruin]

I agree. I only have Acrobat, and I mostly use it for GxP document handling at work, but at home creating fillable RPG character sheets and study aids for language school I just don't like not having access to it. Also, my CV would give you a heart attack in Word, but it looks just perfect as a pdf, where you cannot trace the editing of that Frankenstein's Monster

[plain aurora]

Yeah word tried to be like it but sorry MS you got a long long way to go

[timid ruin]

Word isn't bad, they are just made for completely different stuff

[tiny mauve]

On the topic of Acrobat: How in the ruddy hell have they not added imposition natively yet?! It's not like I'm paying for it, so I can't request features, but still, it's just such an obvious thing for an application like Acrobat...

[timid ruin]

Not really sure what that does tbh

[tiny mauve]

It reorganizes pages for printing

Think booklets but for a whole book (aka signatures)

[marble frigate]

GN and LTT does Pugetbench, which includes Premiere and Photoshop, but I don't remember if it covers GPU or if it's CPU only

[oblique fossil]

New article by GN

HE SLAMMED LINUS

OBLITERATED

[spice flax]

Meh, I read what GN put out.
Listened to what LTT said. This is a "them" problem. It's unfortunate it keeps being made public. Hopefully they can both be adults and sort it out.

[woeful crescent]

As I said, best case, Friday Linus says he and Luke are gonna meet with him at Computex.. and thats it. No doing down Steves list.. If directly asked he can just say they asked for receipts, and they asked to talk things out, they got both, theres no need to speak publicly about it till either something new happens, or the meeting.

Refuting point by point doesn't help anyone, except maybe make Linus feel better.

[tiny nimbus]

[woeful crescent]

Anyone thats seen it will have made their decision how to view it, and nothing Linus says will sway them..

[tiny nimbus]

Forgot this was a sticker

[timid ruin]

Ohh, that's neat! Could've used that back in the day when I was printing a book for a friend of mine. I was still able to have the pages bound, but it wasn't as nice.
Also, I can see how that's super niche tho in generic document handling that Adobe doesn't care to integrate it. How often do people in enterprise (or private) settings want to print something out for binding nowadays?

[wanton token]

the article in general is just not hitting points

anyways, do you folks reckon that bambulab will be on wanshow this week?

seeing how it fucks especially the protsumers up and how ltt owns quite some x1 s

[plain aurora]

they did shout them out with their new policy and linus did say they won't be buying any more...

[wanton token]

kk

honestly it is quite dumb for bambu lab for doing that move

especially considering how popular their printers are and how much hw hackers are in the 3d printer scene

nothing good will come out for them

[plain aurora]

totally

its turned me off buying their machines

[tiny mauve]

Rarely, if ever. And the ones that do print stuff for binding probably also need to make use of way more buttons and options than I need, and therefore actually need imposition software. But the most basic part, simply reorganising the pages into signatures of a certain number of pages, is barely more than what "booklet" already does, it seems like such a no-brainer to add that

[timid ruin]

I see your point. I guess they just consider manual page organising enough to fulfill that functionality, and if you specifically just want to see/jump to signature pages, that's already a part of the signature/online eSign tool once the form is created with required signatures. In a standard company setting this is usually the extent you'd need, so probably they don't go out of their way to add anything else. (Sorry, if I misunderstand the function you're describing, which is very possible; my workplace experience of using Acrobat is revolving around digital IT validation, so there's rarely any need for me to touch the page order - ideally we never print documents out physically).

It is all just best guess, since I can't find a use case (from work perspective) to what my company would be doing day to day. But then again, we don't do anything related to publishing.

[past nimbus]

Steve is not interested in de-escalating. He wants the views

[spark light]

hey yall sorry if im late but can someone give tldr of the feud ? the latest thing i saw was the wan show last week

[frozen agate]

Watch the wan segment then read the GN article. That's the closest to an "unbiased" outlook you'll get

also keeps this channel free of drama and relatively on topic

[timid ruin]

Aren't we supposed to discuss this cat anyway?

[frozen agate]

exactly my point

look how adorable he is!

[timid ruin]

I do you one better!

(he's ours, so forgive me for my biased opinion)

He's related to tech, since he's often chewing on the COAX of the WiFi router. And the laptop charger. He's clearly an expert.

[frozen agate]

https://tenor.com/bYofW.gif

[frozen agate]

Get this man a helpdesk job!

[timid ruin]

His phone manners are terrible, he loves to shout at us. But he'd be a good site supporter!

[gusty shadow]

I’m just watching the 27th Dec show. I have to find the time mark. But omg did he really say he needed another controversy after the Honey stuff? I’d be kicking myself

[plain aurora]

It would have been sarcastic

[gusty shadow]

I agree. sorry I should have said I understood it as such. But woah what awful coincidence

[plain aurora]

Oh cuteness of cats got ya. This is the cat that lives at my pools reception, eneya but I call her gym cat since I go to the gym upstairs.

[plain aurora]

No need to be, it can be hard sometimes to see it.

[restive rain]

possible topic, seems pretty anti competitive

[true bison]

Ya,.. but do they block Firefox?

[woeful crescent]

Bing hides lots of results behind show more.. for that matter Google does too at times.. if it wasn't listing it at a result at all it would be another story but this seems to be more like at a result of some minor change or something than MS going out of their way..

[lusty isle]

I think the GN and LTT stuff can be boiled down to too many crossed wires and, people talking at each other instead of to each other. No one is innocent here.

[tiny mauve]

More importantly: do they block librewolf?

[past nimbus]

they are truly desperate, huh

if you bing google, they change their layout to match google and pretend that they are google so that you search on bing instead

[lament galleon]

They've had the popup for years now. Looks like they made it a little more intrusive, but you can see the chrome result right there behind "show more", and it's the only button on the page. Not that I think they should be allowed to do it, but as far as dark patterns go it's pretty tame tbf ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real stag]

i wish they would just talk to each other with some thirdparty person as moderator. shit is just personal at this point

[terse plank]

on the plus side it sounds like the resounding community sentiment regardless of sides is "please stop"

[woeful crescent]

The life of a gamedev https://bsky.app/profile/borticuscryptic.bsky.social/post/3lggn2l44is2w

Borticus-Cryptic (@borticuscryptic.bsky.social)

In today's "Weird Stuff that Happens in Game Dev" ....

We figured out why Ba'ku Doffs, and Baked Tribble, were causing errors on live. And it's silly. But you might notice that they both share the letters "BAK" which also happens to be what are internal "backup" files are named.

Bluesky · Jan 23, 2025, 7:38 PM

[true bison]

Bluesky user! Nice!

[woeful crescent]

Most of the active devs for STO moved there cause its hard to support X, and a lot of the user base doesn't want to go to X for updates heh

[tender prism]

Does blueskype function essentially the same as twitter?

[woeful crescent]

Yep, X, Bluesky, Threads.. all same general idea, different money bags behind them..

[timid ruin]

Blue Skype is essentially Teams tho

[woeful crescent]

Naa, Blusky works most of the time..

[cursive tiger]

just get an a6000 🤡

[plain aurora]

With a price tag of “contact us” on pbs site hmmm 😂😂😂😂

[cursive tiger]

it used to say $20k

[plain aurora]

That’s most of my yearly income

Heck my contents are insured for only 7k more

[tender prism]

part-timer?

[plain aurora]

I live in nz lower cost of living plus can’t work full time due to disability

[cursive tiger]

yeah it's like a third the median household income

[plain aurora]

38k is what winz think supported living people can live on

[cursive tiger]

they're meant for businesses like film studios or whatever buying a fuckton of them for ai or big cad renders

[plain aurora]

Yeah I wouldn’t even look at something like that

[cursive tiger]

lemme check if that's more or less than i pay in rent alone

[tender prism]

38k with rent no way

[cursive tiger]

oh a fair bit more

still

i also really wouldn't call the cost of living here low

[plain aurora]

19k is my rent

Including all but food and mobile

[cursive tiger]

i've lived in england, it's much cheaper to buy food imported from new zealand over there than it is to buy the same food here, even after currency conversion

[stark quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-eat-our-way-out-of-another-jam-gif-10891847

mrw to todays sponsorspot

[plain aurora]

gets off floatplane to watch the sponsor spot

[cursive tiger]

but that's exactly what bisneyland wants you to do >:3

[brave belfry]

on a sidenote, those cupcakes looked pretty good, now I want one 😭

[tiny nimbus]

Idea for new FP channel video category; “Dennis’s sponsor spots you literally paid us to avoid”

[tiny nimbus]

Can’t wait for this tech to drop right after Linus has already spent $40k replacing all the light switches in his house with those Inovelli thingies https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24348688/zigbee-ambient-sensing-philips-hue-ivani-sensify

[past nimbus]

It won't be here in years

[lament galleon]

As is devine fate, it will release 10 minutes after the upgrade video goes live where he replaces and reprograms every switch in his house.

[timid ruin]

We went with Philips Hue ceiling lights in our home in the end, so we can wait - we didn't even get a Bridge yet, since the current apartment layout doesn't justify the extra tech.

[olive bronze]

are we early or regular time tonight

[tiny nimbus]

Nothing to indicate anything out of the ordinary

[olive bronze]

that's not what I asked. we're always out of the ordinary

my roof leaked today. my brother went up there and put a big patch of sticky tape on a seam that's rusted.

he said my roof is solid covered in ice, though

[brittle moon]

if we are always out of the ordinary, then that becomes the ordinary

[brittle moon]

as usual, we have not heard anything to suggest otherwise, so itll probably be as unpredictably late as always

[dreamy pilot]

Wonder if they'll go with the title "They hit back" but actually be referring to airestech

[forest frigate]

https://youtu.be/0Udn7WNOrvQ?si=03Z-WW6y9j0Rhnak

[neat kiln]

it's an hour long nobody's through it yet

But Louis is upset that linus didn't call out honey

[potent shell]

I made it about 25 minutes in before I turned it off. I like Louis, but I feel like he was connecting some dots that don't actually connect

[neat kiln]

Same. I'm 18 in right now.
Louis certainly isn't perfect, but there are some good points that he says as well

But also, there's context he misses.

[forest frigate]

TL;Dr Linus is a narcissist

[neat kiln]

even linus has admitted as much

[round ermine]

Dropped right brfore the WAN show

[neat kiln]

"You must have some bit of narcissism to be a media personality"

[round ermine]

That's a power move right there

You just know this is gonna be on Linus' mind this entire WAN

[neat kiln]

but, I think Louis misses, that any content linus makes, it does effect a company of 80+ people

Image absolutely matters

[neat kiln]

Linus is busy right now.
They likely don't have the time to watch this

At least I'm 80% certain they're probably doing something production related

[round ermine]

Yeah, but he's probably gonna get one or two push notifications about this from other people

Even a glance at his notifications on his phone/smart watch

[neat kiln]

Nobody on the team has even had time to watch the full thing

[potent shell]

I really hope Linus don't mention any of this at all. Frankly, I really don't want to watch NBC fight CBS while the CW throws a chair into the ring.

[neat kiln]

apparently like 30 minutes in, since I'm looking at the timestamps, there's an email linus sent to louis

[restive rain]

damn an hour, thats a long watch

[round ermine]

While I don't disagree with Steve or Louis about the fact that Linus should have made an effort to call out Honey, I do want to point out that Linus is in fact responsible for the livelyhoods of like 80 people now, and Honey is owned by Paypal

[neat kiln]

22 minutes in

[round ermine]

Paypal isn't the most ethical company

They are known to be vendictive, and they copntrol most of the transactions in ecommerce

I'm pretty sure LMG relies heavily on Paypal for many of their transactions, particularly with the LTT store

That's turning your company, and the livelihoods of your employees, into matyrs

[neat kiln]

any of the other content creators once sponsored by honey could have also mentioned what honey was doing

[restive rain]

yea, someone mentioned they had a dropoff once they disabled paypal pay on the store

[round ermine]

The sponsors didn't know what they were doing

[forest frigate]

But Linus should have said something..... /s

[round ermine]

Honey never advertised what their grift was

[neat kiln]

Plenty of other content creators knew honey was stealing from creators and dropped honey.
LTT have stated they learned it from other creators

and it's verifiable by looking at what people were saying at the time

[forest frigate]

You just don't get it, it's all on Linus! All Linus's fault for not making a video about it! /s

[restive rain]

20 mins in and its a trip

[neat kiln]

about to hit 30 in/

[neat kiln]

your thoughts?

oh.kay

just got to the email louis says is from linus

[round ermine]

"Don't judge a company for errors, look how they react to crtitque." - Linus Sebastian.

Not using his platform to inform people of the Honey grift was wrong, but I get why he didn't do it. His employees should come first, and doing something that could harpoon your companies finances is a bad idea.

I'm not mad at Linus for that, and I think it is unreasonable to be. I am disappointed that he didn't do the right thing, but that's different.

I am however mad at Linus for how he's been responding to this.

[neat kiln]

that's a little skeevy

this email

This ok

33 minutes in, and I lose a little linus respect

[neat kiln]

I was thinking about by 30 minutes in louis has some points but also misses some
The email though... the sort of transactional relationship

rubbed wrong now

It stops being about honey