the-wan-show

[mellow wedge]

hey guys historically which day during the black friday sales has the best deals? cybermonday?

[shell nacelle]

Well there's probably gonna be a bunch of flash sales once WAN starts

[wide gyro]

Noob question, what would be the best way to get a discord notification when the wanshow starts?
YT just does not notify me.
Enable notification on the ltt-releses announcer in discord?

[brittle moon]

if you want specifically a discord notification, then enabling all notifications for the wanshow-live channel is probably the best way you could do that from this server

that wont send push notifications though (itll only notify if you have discord open), and the message in there is usually a few minutes delayed

outside of that, twitch notifications are more reliable than youtube's, but that'll notify for the pre-show too

there are more options if those wont work for you too, lmk

[wide gyro]

I can live with a few minutes delay

[solar glacier]

ifttt to the rescue!
oh wait it's not 2016

[wide gyro]

Uuh so i'm not seeing the wanshow-live channel in the list anyware.
Am I missing something?

[neat hedge]

Yes

Go there

[wide gyro]

Yes I found it thx

I see the channel now after clicking the right role

[mellow wedge]

need a hero to post flash deals here I probably will miss the wan show 😭

[wide gyro]

Thx for the help everyone

[brittle moon]

theyll almost certainly be posted in #lttstore

things get posted there within a few minutes of them going live

[shell nacelle]

Ah right Wan is starting soon

[brittle moon]

not for another hour at the very least

[restive rain]

MM are going to go crazy today

with all the deals

[woeful crescent]

Woo its late, the universe is as it should be

[silver garnet]

😂

fr

[woeful crescent]

You can only do so many Early WANShows before it destroys the fabric of the space time continuum.

[tiny nimbus]

Welp, 30 minutes late and not even a thumbnail yet, I'm gonna go fetch some ice cream

[brittle moon]

there is a title though

[restive rain]

whats the title

[brittle moon]

Look At Me I'm The Advertiser Now - WAN Show November 29, 2024

[neat kiln]

I've done this and still never get notifications

[brittle moon]

even with discord open?

[neat kiln]

yeaup.
I hate it.
It would be interesting if there was some sort of way to use whenplane for notification

[hazy comet]

Sit in twitch chat and waiti fro noise

[timid frost]

Where is the lan show? I need to be entertained while working at this gas station

Wan show*

[hazy comet]

https://whenplane.com/notifications

[brittle moon]

^

[hazy comet]

Late

[woeful crescent]

I get the badge for WANShow going live, but not a ding.. so I just leave the tab open..

[restive rain]

assuming fdiscord is open an unmuted it should give a sound

no actual notif though because they don't do that for large servers

[tiny nimbus]

Twitch is usually good about pinging me when they go live

[timid frost]

Unsubscribing from LTT and giving gersnexus all my attention from now on

[restive rain]

real

[neat kiln]

whenever i do that the stream starts muted.
Maybe due to being a real firefox user and not those fake floatplane ones lol

[restive rain]

you do have the stream unmuted right?

[neat kiln]

ah this is helpful. thank you

[timid frost]

In the industry we call that a callback

[hazy comet]

Thanks @brittle moon for making it

[cursive tiger]

yeah firefox doesn't let you autoplay audio

[neat kiln]

Oh wow. Whenplane is so much more featured than last time I used it

[tiny nimbus]

Yeah that "More" dropdown should be retitled "Rabbit Hole"

[neat kiln]

At the same time I love firefox, because I will open 20 tabs with different youtube videos to watch, and on chrome they will just autoplay. but firefox blocks that

[brittle moon]

yw 🙂

[hazy comet]

I got in it for liek 10 minutes looks at everything

[brittle moon]

😄

[junior fog]

Wan late as usual?

[timid frost]

Yes

[junior fog]

[tiny nimbus]

THERE IT IS

[brittle moon]

eyyy

[round ermine]

It's what I'm known for

[brittle moon]

ive come to expect this image being posted here weekly 😄

[hazy comet]

@brittle moon What error 500 on the extension

[brittle moon]

are you on desktop? If so, anything red in the dev console? (F12 then go to the console tab at the top)

[hazy comet]

I am on desktop

[round ermine]

skill issue.

[hazy comet]

There was a likebig ass imaeg of luke and error 500

[brittle moon]

yeah

right click and reload frame. lmk if it happens again

[hazy comet]

happened again

[hazy comet]

lt me try

[hazy comet]

Where reload frame

[brittle moon]

what browser are you on?

[hazy comet]

Chrome 🙂

[brittle moon]

oh i just checked, apparently chrome removed that feature

another reason to keep using firefox for me 😄

i guess reload the whole page then

[hazy comet]

It's called being lazy, also I haven't got a issue rn so when I do i will move to firefox

[unkempt glade]

wheres wan show?

[woeful crescent]

Its waiting for you to go to sleep

[unkempt glade]

probably

[hazy cedar]

In the greater Vancouver area.

[unkempt glade]

i mean that is true

maybe i should ask it this

[woeful crescent]

Sometimes..

[unkempt glade]

when is wan show

[tiny nimbus]

[hazy cedar]

Today

[neat kiln]

at some point

[woeful crescent]

I mean, what is time anyway..

[hazy cedar]

Eventually

Well it's 5 o'clock somewhere

[woeful crescent]

Time is just, like, a construct, man...

[shell nacelle]

Ah shit did it start?

[brittle moon]

no

[timid frost]

Not yet :(

[woeful crescent]

In some parallel universe, yes.. maybe.. but not this one :p

[neat kiln]

actually this is the universe where it happens the earliest

[shell nacelle]

I was busy assembling some stuff and lost track of time

[neat kiln]

feel bad for the other universes

[hazy cedar]

It's over.

[unborn pendant]

Me when(plane)

[shell nacelle]

#wanshow-live Will ping when it starts yeah?

[wicked flame]

No updates anywhere. Nothing on floatplane, YT, or Twitch. It honestly feels pretty dismissive considering they know how many people are waiting

[neat kiln]

it might or might not

[neat kiln]

did something happen aside from the announcement of tarrifs on canadian goods?

[hazy cedar]

No Access!?!? What secrets lie within?

[restive rain]

grab wan role in id:customize

[neat kiln]

oh yeah its black friday

completely forgot

[restive rain]

BFCM!

[tiny nimbus]

9000!

[brittle moon]

there is a title: Look At Me I'm The Advertiser Now - WAN Show November 29, 2024
also, welcome to wan show 🙂

[restive rain]

bro then they have done so much dismissing (considering its like this every Friday)

[wicked flame]

Not that I can see. Just feels like they are either dealing with issues or simply running late. Either way I feel like they are large enough and support a large enough community to be more up front with how long we have to wait.

[brittle moon]

theyre always late for wan show

this is nothing new

[wicked flame]

They are rarely more than 15 minutes late. and when they are they are 3 minutes late on FP/Twitch.

[neat kiln]

they've been 5 hours late before

[unborn pendant]

I dont think I have ever seen wan be late

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-hiding-lucille-ball-i-love-lucy-hide-behind-hand-gif-15752400

[wicked flame]

I'm just tired of waiting for a scheduled show. I don't think it's an unreasonable complaint

[brittle moon]

uh huh....

[restive rain]

the avg is deffiently higher then 15min late

[tiny nimbus]

Well hey, long as you're a Floatplane subscriber you can check out the exclusive "Why is WAN Show late" series while you're waiting

[restive rain]

consider it a suggested time from now on

not scheduled

[unborn pendant]

Round down

[restive rain]

rounding down if you dont know how to round

[unborn pendant]

Sounds about right

[wicked flame]

Yeah that shit has been pretty upsetting. Basically just directly showing they don't care as much as they probably should.

[brittle moon]

the average for the past 5 shows is 1h 2m 17s

[restive rain]

yea thats what i thought

[unborn pendant]

I cant tell is Unabating is trolling or not

[wicked flame]

Partially

[tiny nimbus]

Almost 2am here and you don't hear me complaining, except that I finished my ice cream smh

[brittle moon]

i think they are. first they said wan show is never more than 15 minutes late, then they said because theyre always late they dont care

[neat kiln]

I'll just eat my plate of cereal while i wait

[wicked flame]

I know they are always late, but it's annoying and they have been slipping in terms of engagement quality for some time now.

I love the crew I'm mostly just venting

but still frustrated

[unborn pendant]

My favorite is serving myself a snack right before wan is supposed to start and just eating the snack while waiting for it to actually start

[restive rain]

they do all have other jobs that need to get done before they can go live

cant really help if a shoot goes over

[woeful crescent]

I haven't had any complaints.. I mean most of it would be because Luke is on a tight timeline to getting out most days.. so no more starting 2hrs late and running for 4hrs..

[wicked flame]

Can at least post some updates using there plethora of social accounts though

[tiny nimbus]

Problem these days is Luke has a set time that he has to leave to medicate his birds, so the later they start the shorter the show

[restive rain]

yea 😦

thats the real shame

[neat kiln]

wasn't that just while his partner is out?

[wicked flame]

and we all know why we even show up...

[brittle moon]

title changed
Look At Me I'm The Sponsor Now - WAN Show November 29, 2024

[woeful crescent]

Solution.. bring the Birgs with him to the show \o/

[wicked flame]

I'm not opposed

[restive rain]

what changed?

it looks the same

[neat kiln]

Got that Pre-Wan Snack

[tiny nimbus]

Birbs wouldn't survive an office environment and would die immediately within range of the workshop

[restive rain]

out of paper???

mad man

[neat kiln]

(completely missing the no milk)

[woeful crescent]

Ya but he would be.. I think moving birds around like that is stressful and not good for them too..

[wicked flame]

I just bought my first box of those at 32 a week ago... Cause my life was a lie.

[brittle moon]

Look At Me I'm The Advertiser Now - WAN Show November 29, 2024 to Look At Me I'm The Sponsor Now - WAN Show November 29, 2024

[unborn pendant]

Fruity cereal, paper bowl, late wan. This is a recipe for greatness.

[restive rain]

wait is that a plate??

😭

[woeful crescent]

So plan B.. move WANShow for Lukes house..

[restive rain]

i thought the white of the plate was milk

[unborn pendant]

Holy shit wait

[tiny nimbus]

Medicate the birbs live on the show lesgoooooo

[unborn pendant]

Is it a plate?

[wicked flame]

Cereal Tier List Time?!?!

[neat kiln]

I was out of milk.
the plate was right there.

[unborn pendant]

No fucking way

[restive rain]

i cant belive you

[restive rain]

ahhh advertiser to sponsor

[brittle moon]

yeah

makes more sense considering what its talking about

[neat kiln]

oh, linus must be advertising merch on other channels

[restive rain]

ooo are they?

[brittle moon]

they sponsored this video (havent watched it, just saw the description)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEJt009r3cg

[neat kiln]

more heavily now

[unborn pendant]

Wdym they sponsored the video?

[restive rain]

damn like a 2 min spot

[wicked flame]

Probably getting BS shade thrown for the recent distro of precision drivers. So anyone saying anything nice about them is perpetually tainted (for the week or so people remember things).

[brittle moon]

https://youtu.be/JEJt009r3cg?t=199

[restive rain]

what happened in regards to the percision?

[neat kiln]

There's ore ltt shade?

[unborn pendant]

Like they bought an ad spot for a product?

[restive rain]

i didnt know there was drama

[woeful crescent]

Theres always drama

[unkempt glade]

bro almost and hour late now

[neat kiln]

I mean i remember linus mentioning that ifixit dropped them

[brittle moon]

over an hour late. welcome to wan show 🙂

[neat kiln]

hour and 20 minutes

[wicked flame]

They gave them to creators. No drama. But people don't associate quality with promotional giveaways so I'm guessing the internet is internetting.

[neat kiln]

they did the same with ratcheting screwdriver

[restive rain]

they did the same with the normal driver

and it went fine

[neat kiln]

I'm out of the loop on a lot, that wan show actually does catch me on news

[woeful crescent]

Its funny that ifixit dropped them considering they still get mentioned a lot.. I mean even if LTT makes a competing product, having them advertise YOUR product is better than not.. but alas.. also the ifixit ceo seemed to be a little more angry than strategic about it..

[wicked flame]

Drivers were a meme already by that point. People were just desperate to get them. and they just happened to be amazing, and really scale interest.

Meme as in the hilarious nature of delays in build up. Linus will Linus.

To be clear I ADORE there stuff. As well as there philosophy on product dev.

[neat kiln]

was there anger? I mean from how it sounded on that wan it sounded fine

[woeful crescent]

LMG had no issue, but the ifixit CEO took a few swips at LMG on socials

[neat kiln]

but again i don't see most of anything outside of wan show

[tiny nimbus]

Linus mentioned an email he got from iFixit but didn't go into specifics

[woeful crescent]

Along with deciding not to continue the sponsorship

[tiny nimbus]

Jeff Geerling reached out for comment and got a BS "we're reevaulating our sponsors, we want to teach the world to solder" response

[woeful crescent]

He for sure seemed bitter about it..

[neat kiln]

interesting.
I'm need to teach half of r/consolerepair how to replace an hdmi port correctly because god...

new techs learn soldering the wrong way

[woeful crescent]

Which I would have got if LMG had done this out of nowhere, but he had like a year heads up this was happening..

[wicked flame]

Austin Evans had to seriously tip-toe around the subject. You could tell he was nervous about the conclusions people would jump to.

[neat kiln]

Would there be links to any of the statements these other creators have made?

[tiny nimbus]

I don't get a lot of his content recommended to me so I haven't seen iFixit-related chat from him

[woeful crescent]

Which reminds me of the lol DBrand vid where they might be looking at Mousepads and had an LTT sample one in their deconstruction bins

[unborn pendant]

Just finished that video

It was entertaining

[woeful crescent]

Thumbnail up

[brittle moon]

thumbnail!

[neat kiln]

lmao.
Which is certainly fine I think. LTT has their own designs and designs are what most people will buy their desk pads for
I don't want to start that video on chance that wan starts while im watching

[wicked flame]

YT vids

[tiny nimbus]

Ooh Luke still in France

[restive rain]

remote luke

[wicked flame]

Linus is in FP CHAT!!

Said the streak will never be broke.

Guess his investments are doing well.

[restive rain]

esp not on BFCM

[neat kiln]

Is it the Black friday deals video? or something else. because the titles certainaly don't make clear

having to watch each video just to find a statement on whatever drama could be currently happening

[hazy comet]

[glossy apex]

nice

[wicked flame]

I dont think theres major drama. Just minor stuff and mostly preventative measures.

[stable quarry]

as i am kind of new to wan will on this BFCM be flash deals or not?

[glossy apex]

if I have a YouTube support question about the channel who would I ask

[woeful crescent]

We don't know

[restive rain]

if its like before probably

since everything will sell out quickly

[tiny nimbus]

Expect the unexpected

[woeful crescent]

LMG has never been one for consistency..

[glossy apex]

they have some deals rn on the site 🤷‍♂️

[neat kiln]

well timing consistency

[woeful crescent]

Its always late, except when its 12hrs early :p

[neat kiln]

Oh. Luke is out. Which means no birds there to medicate

longer wan?

[restive rain]

trueeeee, 12 hr wan show here we come

[shell nacelle]

Well I'm gonna go finishing setting up my SecretLab accessories in the meantime

[tiny nimbus]

Luke's had weeks where Emma's been away so he has to medicate the birbs solo, so I guess it's her turn now

[keen bloom]

Where is Mr. Luke?

[tiny nimbus]

France

[brittle moon]

france

[keen bloom]

Oh damn! Nice!

[tiny nimbus]

He hosted some conference on Thursday

[keen bloom]

Oh, that's super cool. Hopefully he talks about it a bit. I had no idea he was AFK.

[tiny nimbus]

He had to leave the show early last week to catch his plane

[shell nacelle]

How long does WAN usually last?

[keen bloom]

I missed the last couple of shows, so I missed that bit.

2-4 hours

[brittle moon]

^

[tiny nimbus]

tfw I could have slept til 2am

[stable quarry]

yeah me till 3am 😄

[shell nacelle]

AH HERE WE GO

[round ermine]

Live

[wicked flame]

ITS ONNN

[keen bloom]

ITS LIVE BOYS!

[shell nacelle]

Is it Floatplane only?

[round ermine]

HARD R

[tiny nimbus]

30 seconds in and Linus used the hard R

[round ermine]

OUT THE GATE

[shell nacelle]

Cause people are saying no YT Live yet

[neat kiln]

got that whenplane announcement nice

[round ermine]

It's preshow

Twitch and Floatplane

[restive rain]

what the hell did i miss 😭

[unkempt glade]

finaly

[shell nacelle]

NOthing much

It's been like 2 minutes

[silver garnet]

The shortcircuit wall paper is so insane tho

[restive rain]

oh i was confused until i looked behind him

lol

[unkempt glade]

bro the lag is crazy

[restive rain]

that was a good one

[shell nacelle]

I assume they won't annouce anything until the show proper

[teal aspen]

!?

hard R or linus hard R

[round ermine]

Linus hard R

[tiny nimbus]

Linus to Luke "you sound r****ded"

[teal aspen]

oh alright

[round ermine]

It's cause Luke is very delayed

So the joke is that he'll be talking like he's slow in the head.

[teal aspen]

I know what r****ded means lmao

[round ermine]

Just giving context

[tiny nimbus]

What even is a Switch Pro (rhetorical I'll check out the video later)

[round ermine]

The 64GB LCD steam deck is sold out

[wicked flame]

YT will be live in about a minute

[round ermine]

And not coming back, so the cheapest model is the the 512GB LCD right now

[tiny nimbus]

20 merch messages in 9 minutes

[round ermine]

At C $419

[restive rain]

ngl i did think he was unsupervised lol

[last remnant]

DANG IT DAN, late wan again

[woeful crescent]

I didn't.. no way any company lets someone just walk around unsupervised..

[restive rain]

yea... like thinking about it it makes sense that it would be supervised

and why would machines just be running with no supervision

[last remnant]

Psalms 68:20 20 Our Dan is a Dan who saves; he is the guard, our Lord, who rescues us from death.

[woeful crescent]

That does make sense.. some companies without 24/7 staffing will let things run overnight to be ready for the am..

[wicked flame]

Yeah they got distracted again

[last remnant]

dan you are our only hope, save us from a late WAN show

[restive rain]

not the white on the eggplant 😭

[brittle moon]

they will talk about hexos today

[idle zinc]

oh god 2024 controversy

[woeful crescent]

Its okay.. its French.. 😐

[idle zinc]

we starting a streak with this

[idle zinc]

even if it was this is the internet they’d cancel jesus if they could

[restive rain]

what in the topic lmao??

i have not heard about this

[woeful crescent]

Neither have I, but if I did I wouldn't have cared either..

[restive rain]

it sounds like it might have something to do with beige babies or whatever

ooo 3 sponsors

not just that 1

[idle zinc]

d brand: supplies linus with his skin (linus is a lizard confirmed)

[desert raft]

Gotta love watching wan 30k ft over the gulf of mexico 😂

Tek=cool

[idle zinc]

i love stressful situations with the wan show

last week i was underneath the gearbox of a minibus doing maintenance and i was sat under there watching the wan show for a solid 45% of that time

[desert raft]

Lol

[shell nacelle]

I mean I'm busy setting up my PC mount for the Magnus Pro

[desert raft]

I’m working on some security camera stuff on my laptop

[junior fog]

How is it? Mine comes next week

[unborn cargo]

Pretty sure Linus is secretly 100% owner of Dbrand and he's just here for the memes.. I lol'd so hard at the Dbrand video

[shell nacelle]

Like the Desk?

[junior fog]

Yh

[desert raft]

He might have some shares of it

They were some of the first sponsors

[shell nacelle]

It was kinda a pain to set up cause like everything is SO DAMN HEAVY, like even the fucking desk mat was quite hefty but yeah I'm liking it a lot so far

Also the LTT Screwdriver bits don't fit the screws

[junior fog]

Do you have the xl ?

[shell nacelle]

yeah

[junior fog]

Oh right

I bought the non xl

[shell nacelle]

It requires M3/M5 Screw bits so IDK if LTT has those

I mean they do give you the tools but yeah

Also I did have a task rabbit guy help me out the entire time so it went smoother than if I just did it by myself

Using their powerdrill was like super useful

[junior fog]

I purchased the assembly service since it was available in my area

So hopefully should go smoothly

[shell nacelle]

Yeah it's VERY much a two person job

Even outside of just lifiting it up

[junior fog]

I have a cheap standard desk i bought from amazon but its too small and the tabletop flexes when in standing mode

Was so hard to find a one piece standing desk tabletop

[shell nacelle]

This is my first experience with a sit to stand desk and holy shit it actually really does make a difference

Also keep in mind only select parts of the underside of the desk are actually magnetic

So if you plan on putting anything underneath

[junior fog]

Will keep that in mind thanks

[shell nacelle]

Cause like most of the magentism is on the top of the desk

[keen bloom]

Oh man, that's funny.

[shell nacelle]

WAIT LINUS KIDNAPPING?

[keen bloom]

Held Hostage by Intel. 😂

[hazy comet]

Nah by Dbrwnd

[restive rain]

lol the way his face just went 😭

[neat kiln]

There's a point to be said about people that can't find communities otherwise.
The about the minority of people that are LGBT+. It's hard to find others like you especially if the environment you're in is hostile to you

[shell nacelle]

Like with current Gen Social Media like so ingrained into their culture yeah this would have a lot of consequences

And yeah people will always find a way to bypass these restrictions

[neat kiln]

You can tell when people aren't part of the LGBT+ community when they react to laws like this

[shell nacelle]

Like react negatively or positively to this?

[woeful crescent]

I get what Aus is trying to do, but I get Linus's issue too.. I mean even as a kid in the late 90's/2000's, a large part of my social circle was partially, or even exclusively, over MSN, IRC, etc.. so these days lots of peoples social circle are of people who they can't just call, meet up with, etc.. And this is even a bigger thing with marginalized groups where its hard to find similar people who share your issues..

[neat kiln]

Not taking it into account.
Someone who didn't grow up in such a welcoming irl community who can only find community online

[shell nacelle]

[neat kiln]

not even just lgbt. but children of mormon parents, children exposed to abuse breaking away from their parents and finding it doesnt have to be that way

[shell nacelle]

Like for me I really only got Social Media in the first place cause my older sister discovered that some of my classmates were shit talking me behind my back cause they knew I didn't have social media to be aware of it

Okay back to set up work

[desert raft]

Yeah I think turning down the algorithm would be a good solution

Especially in todays world where alot of news and social commentary comes from social media

Hell back in highschool teachers would make us look at twitter for political stuff

[keen bloom]

Jeez I couldn't imagine having to look at Twitter in school. That's crazy, lol.

[desert raft]

The unit on social political manipulation literally used examples from twitter and instagram

[keen bloom]

Omg hahaha

[shell nacelle]

Oh here we go

[keen bloom]

Deals are LIVE!

[shell nacelle]

SALES MPW

[keen bloom]

ends stream

That was pretty funny to be honest.

[random trout]

Alright, who did it? Did y'all take down the stream by trying to access lttstore.com's deals?

[keen bloom]

Dan pulled the power plug with his foot. Didn't want to sort through all the incoming merch messages. 🤣

[neat kiln]

I would be 100% cool with no algorithms

[halcyon prairie]

i got on the waitlist for the supersofthoodie

[cinder lark]

What deals

[tiny nimbus]

Who’s my impostor in Floatplane chat

[crude sandal]

"I might've just implied I wear women's underwear" - Dan, 2024

[keen bloom]

I was just referring to the Black Friday deals that are up. Linus just started talking about Merch messages and my stream of the show died.

[keen bloom]

Plot twist: He already does! 😂

[woeful crescent]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/26/24303161/amazon-influencers-lawsuit-copyright-clean-aesthetic-girl-sydney-nicole-gifford-alyssa-sheil

[cinder lark]

Ah I read this one! NGL I don't care that much about the topic, but the article was very well done

[woeful crescent]

Yep, Linus specifically called it out so I posted it for anyone who didn't catch it 🙂

[shell nacelle]

OH THHIS IS SPICY

[plain aurora]

that wallpaper behind luke is legit.

i like it

[woeful crescent]

Its French Short Circuit..

[brittle moon]

its crawling up the screwdriver

dan got rid of it

LMAO SPICY LUKE

[keen bloom]

Lil' baby stink bug.

[shell nacelle]

Laptop Sponsors super chill

[small heath]

what happened

[brittle moon]

luke made a joke about jan 6th

[jolly oar]

The spice level of tobasco lol

[woeful crescent]

Linus just replace your circuit breakers with pennies and such.. then you can get more than 3 comps per circuit..

[plain aurora]

to be fair, their reviews have not changed since the investment.

[woeful crescent]

And every review starts off with Linus saying hes invested in framework too.. even when reviewing anyone elses stuff.. so its not like his not upfront with it.

[neat kiln]

oh neat a full video

I've been saying, if there's any tech you want, buy it now

like right now

[woeful crescent]

"Will manufactures move.." No. They will just pass on the tariffs to the consumers.

[neat kiln]

even if you ended up using credit, there's a chance you'd pay less in interest than you would have you waited and seen the higher prices

[woeful crescent]

Well who knows if he'll actually do it anyway.. and if it'll stick.. doing it via emergency powers is not well tested so no guarantee it'll stick.. Plus Trump has the attention span of a goldfish so he says a lot then doesn't..

[neat kiln]

I can near guarantee it'll happen against china. Whether it happens against canada and mexico is up in the air

[woeful crescent]

Canada shares a land border with the EU thanks to the end of the Whiskey War.. so I say we just join the EU.

[plain aurora]

I wish i could honestly buy a piece of software for X dollars even if it was several hundred.

[neat kiln]

ok cool

[plain aurora]

instead of bending over and handing my debit monthly.

[random trout]

You can; depends on the software license. It's why I switched from Adobe to Serif (Affinity) software.

[plain aurora]

True

or your work can pay for adobe 😉

[which is my case]

[woeful crescent]

I'm with Riley.. screw that.. if I get the product its cause I don't want TO do that.

I know enough Linux to get around, and troubleshoot what I can't. I have zero interest in doing it. Its not something I like to tinker with..

[crude sandal]

These comments really highlight mega nerds that don't have lives outside of tech and think that's normal for every nerd

[woeful crescent]

Its why I run Windows as my desktop OS (and fileserver OS) not Linux.

[woeful crescent]

Someone needs to buy the album, rent one of those sign trucks with the speakers, park it out front of LMG and play it with a message that it will continue till remastered happens.

[wanton token]

China tariff is gonna happen imo, purely because china export lots and does not import as much and it is still very much a threat to US

things are definitely gonna get more expensive but i hope this can mean less people buying stuff mindlessly

[balmy tiger]

Do you think they're going to decorate the set for the festive season ?? I can't remember if they did last year.

[woeful crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH0_8itTPgY Sponsored by the site hes reviewing was an interesting decision.. (though I trust j2c, and his point of testing the marketplace side is different than trusting stuff directly from Jawa) .. also funny how he learned it if from Scrapyard Wars :p

[gaunt sapphire]

He's commented on the video to explain the thinking behind it

[woeful crescent]

Yep.. which is why I mentioned the marketplace | direct sale distinction.. still.. hard to deny that its not a great idea :p

[small heath]

yeaa but the USA isnt considering that if they impose import tariffs to promote manufacturing in the USA, they gotta actually manufacture it here, and most americans dont want those jobs

[marble frigate]

Pat Gelsinger is retiring from Intel, will be a fun show this week

[real stag]

hopefully they aint going back to appointing the cfo ceo. thats exactly whats got them to this situation

[marble frigate]

The CFO and EVP are now CEOs by interim but yeah, going back to a bean counter CEO would not be a good look, hopefully not axing their efforts in the GPU space

[woeful crescent]

If they are looking for safer options, maybe go to the c-suite from Boeing.. they have been issue free for like.. a week now.

[clever gorge]

Story idea you may be interested in for next wan show or a techquickie segment maybe

Since android 15 release Multiple sections of the fitbit app have been unusable. Currently 4 weeks without any official word that they are even looking into it. Mods on their own forum has been merging any posts into a thread which is marked as resolved but it far from isn't. The original poster has marked it unresolved but they keep marking it as resolved again.

This is a link to the community thread.

https://community.fitbit.com/t5/Android-App/Pixel-phones-Recent-and-Frequent-food-have-their-tops-cropped-off-at-the/td-p/5689678/jump-to/first-unread-message

The Store page is being flooded with 1 star reviews that they are auto responding to with canned responses that do nothing (telling you to log out and back in)
Ill add a couple of screenshots at the bottom to show you the problem. The top of most pages appear cut off. think it is due to the Screen usage changes in android 15.

Sorry if I have waffled to much. The fitbit community are hoping some external pressure may at least get them to acknowledge the problem.

image.png

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4 weeks and counting and no sign of a fix in site

[last light]

that doesnt mean what you think it does, gigabyte

[tender prism]

I'm just glad GamersNexus isn't targetting LTT anymore

[spice oak]

still upset about that?

It had a positive outcome. No more rushing videos out where it's 1 video a day being released. It's what the employees wanted the most when they were asked what they wanted to change at work.

[true bison]

targeting is not the right term

[spice oak]

investigating then

[tulip hatch]

I loved the crossover episode!

[tender prism]

It was a collaboration

[idle zinc]

dude my local greggs is playing the wan show from like December last year

How this is legally possible i do not want to know

[plain aurora]

Imagine… “how did you find out about wan?” …. A coffee shop

[tiny nimbus]

When you leave YouTube on autoplay it will inevitably land on either a WAN Show or the “I LOVE BUILDING COMPUTERS!” build stream

https://www.theverge.com/2024/12/4/24313187/encrypted-apps-salt-typhoon-hack-telecom-fbi-cisa

[wicked oar]

not too long ago Luke had a suggestion regarding Anno tactics, anyone remember which wan and round what timestamp? searching for it hasn't gotten me anything and it's driving me crazy.
TIA

[true bison]

Luke should stop saying ‘drip’

[next tendon]

Not sure if this got posted anywhere, but a cool look inside this datacenter (echos of Linus' tours of other centers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf8EPSBZU7Y

[woeful crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qqeMWrrxMc

[tender prism]

Floodgates have opened. Be prepared for all the react commentaries NZXT

[vague birch]

New crypto scam, this time hawk tuah girl did a rug pull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKGT6T4R3Pg

[restive rain]

[shocked face] that [random crypto coin] by [random celeb] was a scam

[teal aspen]

how do people STILL fall for this?

someone who gets 5 minutes of fame makes a crypto - scam? nah.

[woeful crescent]

I think "makes" is a little strong here.. more likely just lent her name to something willing to pay and has no idea whats going on :p I have more sympathy for someone like her than someone with actual tech knowledge, or a legit celeb with a team to vett stuff :p

[vague birch]

She knew what she was doing, watch the video and you'll understand because there is a wild Coffeezilla appearance, he'll propably do his own video about this subject

It's only 12min48sec

[plain aurora]

wait, Jay got the CEO? last time i heard he couldn't get a hold of him

[tender prism]

Nah she was complicit

[vague birch]

Coffeezilla made his video on hawk tuah crypto scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHq8AWR1Rg

[zealous spire]

linus said that tatiana leaked 3 projects on some "double sweet 16 stream"
does anyone have a link to that?

[woeful crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips/streams

Oh wait I already replied to you in public chat lol

[tiny nimbus]

Details of the three projects (zip-off shorts, T-shirt image reveal when wet, colour-changing coach jacket) #lttstore message

[unborn pendant]

Damn im early

[woeful crescent]

Seems sus

[zealous spire]

tysm

[tepid dock]

The wAN Show will start... when they decide to start it lol

maybe 4 hours early?
Maybe 2 hours late?

But probably not actually on time

[brittle moon]

recently theyre been averaging 1h 8m late

[frozen agate]

nerd

[brittle moon]

no u

[frozen agate]

lol

no us

[brittle moon]

true

[tender prism]

If she's cancelled, nothing of value was lost

[woeful crescent]

Can you cancel someone that never really mattered? I mean she did a neat thing on camera once.. and beyond the memes, has anyone else cared about what shes up too?

[last light]

he allready has, just not on the main coffeezilla channel so far

[tender prism]

She had a thriving podcast (as in she gets enough views to get decent money).

She's going to lose her livelihood as a podcaster which she deserves to lose

[round ermine]

If you bought a cryptocoin based on the Hawk Tuah girl, that's literally on you.

There could not have been a stupider coin

With more red flags than that one

Might as well have been called ScamCoin™ and made by a Nigerian prince at that point.

[olive bronze]

i heard yesterday that bitcoin hit $100,000

[tender prism]

I think the issue is that her marketing targeted people who were new to crypto

[round ermine]

Also

[woeful crescent]

ALL Crypto marketing targets people new to Crypto.. cause everyone else knows better :p

[round ermine]

I'm just happy that everyone has shut the hell up about NFTs

Nasty F***ing Things.

[candid juniper]

The WAN show is currently late by
6m 49s
It usually actually starts between 1 and 3 hours late

[woeful crescent]

NFT's and other Crypto is a great way to ensure that people who have money to blow, blow it.

I just wish the profits from it went to good causes

Like fighting cancer, or tracking execs of insurance co's

[candid juniper]

well actual crypto went through the roof with the announced appointment of a crypto bro to the new administration

[woeful crescent]

Yep, but like every time it goes through the roof, it eventually crashes..

[candid juniper]

inevitably it will

[candid juniper]

We be live on floatplane!!

[round ermine]

Preshow is live on twitch

[candid juniper]

floatplane chat is going a bit nutty on the title

[spice oak]

if they talk about nzxt flex program on wanshow, they will only mention Jayztwocents interview with the ceo I bet.

[neat kiln]

Damn I was hoping for him to have a spicier populist take on the situation

You reap what you sow

[round ermine]

We gotta activly call them out about avoiding mentioning GN when it happens. It's immature and pathetic.

[candid juniper]

It IS a race to the bottom...but thats what people do. Its what they do and unfortunately there are too many that do that and want to do that.

[neat kiln]

They brought it up in techlinked https://youtu.be/5o_pY4hqPYw?si=crTy87ibG8VXEbh4&t=99

[frozen agate]

not really tbh

[spice oak]

"by youtube channel named gamersnexus that I've never heard of" 🤣 that's good

[woeful crescent]

If anyone other than Riley said that it would feel like sour grapes, but with him it just feels normal.

[candid juniper]

Pat didnt make line go up enough...only line go up is what is needed...chips who cares? datacenter who cares...line go up constantly is the only thing they care about

I want a B770...but that not happening now...maybe later...but I'm not holding my breath..

[woeful crescent]

I hope they end up being good, and I hope Valve ends up supporting it in SteamOS.. cause in the future I'd love an Intel GPU budget PC for my TV for games and such..

[round ermine]

That coat is almost as stupid as the watercooled gaming chair.

almost

[candid juniper]

I'll buy the B580..I'd care for a B770 more though

[olive bronze]

but not as stupid as the fire-cooled pc

[candid juniper]

At least the coat functions as a coat that can be worn...

[olive bronze]

yep

[woeful crescent]

Its very Cyberpunk.. would be a nice movie prop..

[round ermine]

The FOMO pricing on an incomplete product is my problem with the HexOS promo

A literal 3x price increase for anyone that doesn't want to trust early access software is brutal

Especially seeing how often Early Access software, like games, have problems

[olive bronze]

i wonder how flexible those RGB strips are, like, within the fabric

[woeful crescent]

Personally I don't have any issue ... It was a pre-release sale, low price cause you're taking a chance.. either its worth a gamble, worth it at the final feature complete price, or not and you do something else.. they were clear it wasn't complete so after that I view it as personal responsibility..

If I wanna get raged at FOMO I'll hit up the LTT store first.

Luke gets it.. at least how I get it.

CAN I do trunas myself? Sure.. do I want too? Nope.

[sleek kayak]

I hope they somewhat talk about NZXT

[woeful crescent]

I'd much rather watch at home anyway.. no worries about other people.. no snacks that cost an arm and a leg.. can pause it if I need to take a dump..

[sleek kayak]

I have dolby theater near by so I'd only go there for movies

But yeah I'd prefer to watch it at home now

[woeful crescent]

Last movies I saw in theater was Avatar (basic, RealD, Imax3D), and The Martian.. It would take a lot to get me back, and probably would involve something next level like Avatar was when it came out.. and worth it for the experience..

[sleek kayak]

I went to the movies recently and some annoying person kept using their phone across the row...

[candid juniper]

Forza Horizon 4 is getting delisted due to licensing issues...get your copy now...

[sleek kayak]

hot take: pc still should have had physical games

[woeful crescent]

Hotter take: I want my Pulp Fiction VHS.

Bring back Blockbuster.

[woeful crescent]

omg that AI video on atm lol

[sleek kayak]

Did Dennis make these

[woeful crescent]

Clearly

[round ermine]

He said my name

lol

[brittle torrent]

i like to see that steamOS is moving in a big way to where we can install it on our own systems, i knew my merch message about another daily linux challenge would be answered, but not like this lol

[neat kiln]

There there you all can be calm now

[woeful crescent]

rage how dare he mention their name rage

[old patrol]

There's still 1 blockbuster

[woeful crescent]

Thats sarcasm incase anyone is oblivious.. it would have been lame and petty for such a big topic to not mention the source..

[woeful crescent]

Do they have a new copy of Pulp Fiction on VHS???

[old patrol]

Maybe, it's like 4 hours away from my house

I'll go check, for money

[woeful crescent]

Its December.. if you're looking for money you gotta skip past me :p

[old patrol]

https://bendblockbuster.com/

Call them and check

[brittle torrent]

absent brain moment, whats MDG again?

[woeful crescent]

You're about to learn lol

[candid juniper]

linus grifter tips

[brittle torrent]

ahhhhhh

scalpers

Visions is goated

[woeful crescent]

Renting a PC can make sense short term, if you need something high spec or otherwise different, but short term.. like taking a couple month trip and want a powerful laptop.. but long term its just bad..

[round ermine]

They haven't mentioned GN have they

[woeful crescent]

Yep they did

[candid juniper]

not the new video

[woeful crescent]

Thats how they started this topic

[round ermine]

Ok I missed the start of the topic

Tabbed out for somehting

[woeful crescent]

They mentioned it in the TechLinked video too

[brittle torrent]

i keep on getting distracted talking between here, fp chat, and the framework discord lol

[candid juniper]

there's a new GN video that hasnt been mentioned but that GN started this...that was mentioned

[woeful crescent]

Oh ya he didn't differentiate.. just started the topic by saying GN reported it.. then went off on his comments on rent to down and such..

[brittle torrent]

me with a gaming PC that has a bluray drive and a DVD drive and a framework laptop 16 cuz im like that:

[round ermine]

GN pointed out that literal loan shark interest rates are not as bad as this plan

That's absolutely insane

[candid juniper]

you could rent a pc from "guido" with loan shark rates cheaper

[brittle torrent]

bro, i HAVE an i5-12400f and a 3060 lmao

[round ermine]

HAWK TUAH

[brittle torrent]

the coffeezilla twitter live was insane

[round ermine]

This is the biggest scam flag I have ever seen for a coin

And that is saying a lot

[brittle torrent]

her response (if it wasnt a prerecorded clip that they segued to) is also trash lollll

[round ermine]

Might as well have been called ScamCoin™ and made by a Nigerian prince at that point.

[brittle torrent]

man imagine falling for a nigerian prince thing 3 times, speak of the devil

man, i got scammed, i bought a backpack on lttstore.com, but all i got was a peanut /s

[woeful crescent]

I meet people at Tims for the same reason as Luke mentioned.. Cops almost always there, and if not, a call for cops to get the Tims will get a whole police force there faster than anything other than their own homes..

[brittle torrent]

man there should be a group or some sort of service that lets you know if a cop or whoever is at a place like a timmies, so you can meet up with people there and have confidence in your transaction lol

speaking of which i should see if someone replied to me about the ipod photo im tryna sell

[last light]

thatll just get people to hunt cops depending on the country they live in.

[woeful crescent]

I have never been to a major Tim's that didn't have a cop at it. Smaller ones in town can be without, but theres generally a main one and theres always one..

[brittle torrent]

ahhhhhhh true

i should try deleteme, theyre trusted right?

[neat kiln]

I just don't care for a game that will require extremely power innefecient hardware

[last light]

or at the very least criminals will know to avoid these places cause they report their location

[woeful crescent]

Oh ya.. rob a Tim's at your own risk lol

See, Apple was right to make texts from Android look different.. Security.. such foresight.. much security.. wow!

[brittle torrent]

at some point i should ask myself if i should only use my hotspot from my iphone 12 to my pixel 9 pro fold, and have literally everyone that needs to text me to message me on signal lol

[woeful crescent]

But to be fair, I actually do thing whatever the reason, there IS a good case to be made, imho, where connections of varying security/encryption should be shown to users. (and yes I know Apple didn't do it for that reason)..

[brittle torrent]

im mainly using my iphone 12 for calls texts and hotspot and my pixel 9 pro fold for everything else

[woeful crescent]

Down with iOS and Android.. bring back WebOS!

[brittle torrent]

webos? like the smart tv os??

or am i dumb

[woeful crescent]

It was HP's mobile OS.. best known for the HP TouchPad that they firesold and killed off a decade ago

It was a lot like iOS in that it had a very polished UI, but like iOS, no one used it lol

I picked up 3 of the tablets during the firesale through, last one we stopped using like a year ago.. that one was just acting as a clock and IMDb lookup tool as it lived lext to the couch lol

[brittle torrent]

doesnt that calendar ship with grapheneOS?

ok it just looks really similar

[random trout]

The Palm OS, before LG, HP, 💸 chasing endless profits ruined them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS

[brittle torrent]

I seeeeee

[random trout]

I still need to find a purpose for mine, and wish I had splurged on the 32GB model instead of the 16GB.

[brittle torrent]

Dan being immersed and swayed by colors makes my day

[woeful crescent]

All of mine ended with swollen batteries.. But at $50-60 each for all the years I got out of them, I have nothing bad to say.. for a discontinued product with zero support they ran so well.

I switched one to Android.. hated Android as much on it as on every other device I've used it on lol

[neat kiln]

Sometimes donning the tricorn is the best way to be private and dodge data harvesting.
In fact it's a lot of the time. You may want to help the devs and buy, but that also means using google service to pay for an app

[fallow nova]

Why is wan show still going on?

Nvm my YouTube is apparently super bugged out

[cinder lark]

i was just there!
except it was 8am and they were closed and I couldn't go in :/

[old patrol]

Lame

[cinder lark]

I'll go back to Bend at some point and visit blockbuster when they're actually open

[old patrol]

Fellow oregonian?

[cinder lark]

indeed

I was passing though bend on my way home from thanksgiving and drove past the blockbuster

just didn't make sense to stick around till they opened lol

but its not that far, I can always go back

[spice oak]

it happened, Linus did it. He finally said gamersnexus. It's been 84 years... 🙂

[spice cairn]

didn't know they made fang boots still i saw the latest wan show

buut like is there a thing averse for those

<~<

[pine hornet]

Anyone knowledgeable in graphics, is this legit?
If so, I wonder if it would change Linus' opinion on how awesome DLSS and the like are or if there would be a convincing rebuttal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJu_DgCHfx4

[woeful crescent]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/o-mg-usb-c-cable-ct-scan-reveals-sinister-active-electronics-contains-a-hidden-antenna-and-another-die-embedded-in-the-microcontroller

[coral patio]

How good was this week's Wan show? I'm a vod listener

[tiny nimbus]

This week? Mid

[tender prism]

lol at the recommended video below

[plain aurora]

tbh i listened to the interview with jay and their CEO, that title is legit.

[cinder lark]

Sometimes the floatplane exclusives get buried

[storm harbor]

I will say one thing being an australian about the new law that was passe, WE DO NOT WANT THIS it is just our government trying to make everyone think that they give a shit about keeping us safe, if they did actually care they would create a decent social media safety course to run in schools.

Lucky they havent kicked me off discord yet hopefully they never do 🙏

[real stag]

social media safety course
this will be about as effective as the safety courses on smoking/vaping

[plain aurora]

Don’t worry we don’t think you guys actually do. This year seems to be the year that govts worldwide are doing insane things. Here in nz ours are not any better.

“Hey we need to pass something extraordinary to be remembered “

Who cares what our nation’s actually needing us to do, we need to focus on a law that goes too far. We are dealing with the govt here focusing on our founding treaty not things like cost of food. If the place down the road is finding out 250 food parcels daily might be a sign there is a problem.

The idea of having to give my id to social media at the age of 38/9 is not good.

[storm harbor]

Nah if they are done properly they work, my school does one and the person who runs it is hella good at scaring all the people who haven't been following the safety rules.

[buoyant yew]

^^

[limber jewel]

https://youtu.be/WJfJSdKkHSY?feature=shared

[woeful crescent]

https://bsky.app/profile/itch.io/post/3lcu6h465bs2n was part one

itch.io (@itch.io)

I kid you not, @itch.io has been taken down by Funko of "Funko Pop" because they use some trash "AI Powered" Brand Protection Software called Brand Shield that created some bogus Phishing report to our registrar, iwantmyname, who ignored our response and just disabled the domain

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Bluesky · Dec 9, 2024, 7:13 AM

Part 2, I'm calling your MOM https://x.com/itchio/status/1866239798924763227

itch.io (@itchio) on X

This is not a joke, Funko just called my mom

Twitter · Dec 9, 2024, 9:53 PM

[round ermine]

This is hysterical and I can't wait to see this covered on WAN

[restive rain]

that so damn unhinged for a company to do

and so unhinged for someone trolling to do as well

[woeful crescent]

To be fair, and I HOPE this is true, I have a feeling the phone number they called was the one linked to the domain name.. that said, they should have used the sites actual contact page, and second, if they did call once they knew it wasn't the site owner they shoulda shut up, and lastly, when they called, it should have been to say WE fucked up, not youre damaging our rep by telling the world what we did..

Honestly initially I didn't blame Funko much, sure it was on their behalf, but they hired a company to do a job, that company fucked up, itch.io's domain company also fucked up.. if Funko peeps woke up today and said Oh Fuck, we'll make this right and see it doesn't happen again.. I'd have been water under the bridge..

But they chose wrong.

So now all the blame I put on the two middle-men companies, gets copied, magnafired, and dumped on them.

[tiny mauve]

That. Is. Low.

You don't go and tell on someone to their mom

That's fucked up

[brittle torrent]

actual child level response, part of me thinks legal cases should be thrown out if the accuser acts like a little baby

[restive rain]

Part of me wonders if it was someone unrelated to funko who was trolling

[main falcon]

Unplugged UP Phone Possible Fed Honeypot

————————
I REALLY wish LTT would do a FULL audit & inspection of the Unplugged UP Phone and their LibertOS.
This dude makes a lot of good points to it being another honeypot like the Freedom Phone, etc.

Okay yeah, so de-Google and de-Apple and de-Windows your life but go ahead and give your data to these dudes? He doesn’t offer any information regarding their data collection and Shawn Ryan doesn’t know CRAP about tech to know to ask about personal data collection, storage, and transmission—by either the OS/device itself or by Unplugged.

https://youtu.be/v2OhtJxCly8?si=YxImUKabATHGTgA4

I got tired of learning Linux and its near-1-million permutations in order to manage installs of different Android OSs. I’m an audio engineer and need someone with some major Android inspection skillszzzzzzzzz

[winter reef]

no

[main falcon]

🧫🫶🏼

[frozen agate]

ANØM comes to mind when discussing honeypot devices

[brittle torrent]

wasnt there some sort of freedom phone or something too that got absolutely RAGGED on by someone?

also does anyone know of any 3d printable things that could adapt a 64oz ltt water bottle to the ltt backpack? figured it might be cool lol

might end up designing one myself somehow, i have the idea of clipping it onto the side of the ltt backpack, and have it where you put the water bottle on a bottom plate that holds it, then grabs onto the lid or something (to account for people that might stickerbomb their bottles, to keep them as scratch free as possible, and also show them off)

[limber jewel]

who wore it better?

[tiny nimbus]

It was funny hearing Linus talking about wanting to see Donny Osmond perform in Joseph in London later this month, because the show (and Donny) is in Edinburgh until then

[limber jewel]

I never heard about this musical before, but since last wan show I am kind obsessed with it

Also Donny is amazing. He als san the "I'll make a man out of you" from Mulan!

But what makes no sense is that they are singin about corn, when it wasn no introduced to the old world until Columbos and onwards

[neat kiln]

What's the data removal service y'all would recommend

[true bison]

What like deleteme?

[neat kiln]

Deleteme, incogni. From a quicjk scan of the ltt forum post it appears to pain them in a bad light. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1543354-ethics-findings-data-broker-removal-agencies/

I feel like I recall them talking about it on some previous wan

[frozen agate]

Likely from this:
https://whenplane.com/merch-messages/UMO52N2vfk0#UMO52N2vfk0.879
https://www.youtube.com/live/UMO52N2vfk0?si=2zogJkUfcqb_vh4t

[tiny mauve]

I remember some video or article comparing these data removal services and the conclusion, iirc, was basically "it's all pretty meh, the best way to ensure your data actually gets/stays deleted is to call them yourself", but I can't find it again for the life of me

[neat kiln]

I just might pay for like a month.

I was called 4 times today while at work.
After lunch.
3 times in an hour.

[brittle moon]

iirc those companies do a year minimum (i havent checked in a while though and I could be misremembering)

[timid ruin]

I grew up on it, must've seen it like 3-4 times as a kid and had the music on tape. It's a lot of fun, still know most of it by heart ❤️

[tiny mauve]

Weirdly quiet here today, despite being WAN day

[neat kiln]

When I actually remember that it's WANsday, It's silent.
Perhaps I've stolen the memory of others

[potent shell]

Preshow just started

[neat kiln]

I love whenplane

it notified me immediately

I have never given a website desktop notification permissions before whenplane

[round ermine]

And I was about to post my meme too

Hot damn they're early this week

[brittle moon]

❤️

[round ermine]

B580 is amazing. It's basically a 2080ti at less than a quarter the launch price.

It's what you want to get now if you're still on Pascal/Vega or older.

[potent shell]

I'd love to see a Battle Mage Challenge

[brittle moon]

its crazy - they were only 15 minutes late

[olive bronze]

wouldn't it be cool to build like a series of different machines with different specs and build them all with battlemage?

[neat kiln]

lmao

[round ermine]

"Don't buy things on future promises!"

"Buy HexOS because of a FOMO one day sale."

Uh.

[woeful crescent]

With 30 days from the time you got access to get a refund..

Also, black friday..

[round ermine]

30 days is not nearly enough with average dsoftware development speeds.

[woeful crescent]

Then don't buy it.. If it does today what you want today then get it, if not then wait.. Linus is just not going to mention a deal just because he thinks you may violate his mantra of not buying on future promises..

[olive bronze]

but its targeted to compete with the 4060 and 3070. as long as it does better than cards like that, but cheaper, it will succeed

[woeful crescent]

I was speaking to hexos.. I think the new Intel card is fantastic hands down.

I hope Intel sticks it out

[olive bronze]

i dont even understand why the 570 is a thing, though

it makes me wonder if the 570 is a power thing and intel's goal is for mobile

[woeful crescent]

Or a limited run worse card to make the 580 look even better.. or maybe by then they think they will have improved 1080p performance to make it a solid 1080p card..

[olive bronze]

really beyond price i want someone to tell me why i would want a 570

[woeful crescent]

Ya its not a good value on paper atm..

Needed to even cheaper to stand out

[olive bronze]

well thats what i am saying. $249 is so reasonable i can't even see a reason for the 570, its not like they're going to market it at say, $175

[woeful crescent]

At $200 I can see it.. $50 is a lot to some people..

[olive bronze]

actually, it might be marketed at OEMs and builders who are building machines for like, people who check their email and browse the web

maybe they aren't considering the 570 to be a gaming card

[plain aurora]

I wonder how it does for designers. I’m on 2070 because of Adobe and my bank account 🤦‍♀️… nz pricing be sure crazy

[olive bronze]

i just saw a youtube video on getting out of the adobe ecosystem

[plain aurora]

My sub is paid for by someone else

Legally.

[woeful crescent]

Escaping Adobe is like Escaping Microsoft Office.. there are other options, but depending on what you actually do with it, its often times hard to not end up having to compromise.

[plain aurora]

I want there to be alternatives to Adobe yes but there are reasons why i stay, am i impressed with their pricing and their practices? Nah

[round ermine]

Just buy the cheapest Mac min and get an SSD in a M.2 carrier. The Mini has thunderbolt ports so they''ll have full bandwidth.

There's your storage for the Mac mini for literally a fraction of the cost.

[olive bronze]

about a year ago i bought a lifetime ms office like, 2021 version or something, and word crashes every time i try to use it

[woeful crescent]

I still have Officer 2010 lol

[neat kiln]

hot damn

[plain aurora]

Yeah my 2003 version just wouldn’t work anymore. Had to submit to 365

[olive bronze]

i used my LTT screwdrivers last week

[plain aurora]

Also is it normal to use the screwdriver as a fidget toy

[olive bronze]

i bought a new monitor and used both screwdrivers in installing the vesa mount bracket

[neat kiln]

Today I came across my first security HEX screws today. Maybe I should grab the LTT bit set to pair with my preci driver

I'm used to security torx. Security Hex screws threw me off

[olive bronze]

so now i have two identical monitors. man i waited too long to do this. monitors of different resolutions just sucks

[woeful crescent]

My peek setup was the time I had 2 idential monitors, followed by when I had those 2, with a larger center one..

I have an ultrawide and a 16:9 vertical, I would glardly cut that vertical ine into 2 identical for either side.. would make me so happy.. but it works for now so not willing to blow money on new screens..

[neat kiln]

what happened to calling them not merch messages

[olive bronze]

i considered getting an UW but I like having the option of plugging an extra monitor into my laptop, and very few UWs have the option of splitting the screen

[neat kiln]

what was the other phrase they reached for calling merch messages

[olive bronze]

i dont remember what they came up with

[woeful crescent]

I love my Ultrawide, ites the bees knees Alienware 34", but that said next time I'm probably gonna go normal widescreen.. mostly because I'm developing burnin from watching movies/shows that are 16:9 lol

RE-stocking.. HA

[olive bronze]

i'm not sold on the curved screen

[woeful crescent]

I love it, but it wasn't/isn't a must for me.

[woeful crescent]

2 probably was Edzel

[turbid shoal]

yeah

Nick Light 1?

[woeful crescent]

My money is on Edzel, cause I know he was a day one employee..

[brittle torrent]

I claim my number as 69420! Mods, please add to my nickname #69420 to reflect this

[olive bronze]

I'm hexadecimal

[woeful crescent]

https://mediaproxy.tvtropes.org/width/1200/https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pie_pinkyandbrain_ltdedcel.jpg

[brittle torrent]

Moist

[woeful crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/moist-delicious-gif-7281473

[olive bronze]

i never understand why people are repelled by words like "moist"

[woeful crescent]

In the Dead Like Me gif's case, her mother thinks its sexual lol

[olive bronze]

oh is that from Dead Like Me? totally underrated series

[woeful crescent]

Agreed, fantastic show

One of my favs, I rewatch it yearly heh

[olive bronze]

the movie sucked though

[woeful crescent]

I blame Mandy Patinkin refusing to come back..

[olive bronze]

yeah that show was all about the characters

[sleek kayak]

You think they'll talk about the new AI cats game

[round ermine]

I AM using firefox tho

Luke calling the rest of you all out

[woeful crescent]

I'm not.. I was never a big firefox fan, and the erra where I actually used it on PC's, is also the erra my main systems were macs so I was rocking Safari at the time..

[sharp light]

Insult us harder Tech Daddy.

[round ermine]

Gotta love it when a single guy makes a post in the sub that is somewhat negative, Linus goes off for like an hour on the WAN show.

Remember how that teacher got right in under his skin

[olive bronze]

lol

that was pretty funny

[halcyon plume]

I use Firefox except when using the YouTube app.

I also use Linux, except for my work laptop.

[olive bronze]

i have five linux machines and one windows 11

[woeful crescent]

I can use Linux, but I don't want too.. so my Linux box is my SteamDeck.

[olive bronze]

i have two laptops with linux, two raspberry pis, and a steamdeck

[woeful crescent]

Same way I'm the target for HexOS.. Can I setup truenas and such? Ya.. do I want too? No.

Oh I have a PiHole too.. but since its hands off I didn't count it..

I haven't touched it since I changed ISP's and was forced to change my LAN IP's

[olive bronze]

right thats the best kind of rpi

oh i have a PS4 and a PS5, I think they're based on FreeBSD

is freebsd related to linux?

[woeful crescent]

I have a PS3.. it exists for MGS4..

[halcyon plume]

Cousins

[olive bronze]

is that legal?

[woeful crescent]

Depends on the state

[olive bronze]

i'm in ohio. so maybe if i was in tennessee...

[woeful crescent]

In Alabama not only is it legal, but recommended.

[olive bronze]

i used to date a girl from alabama

[woeful crescent]

It keeps the guest list short..

[olive bronze]

she had your typical trailer-trash southern accent, but she was a computer programmer

oh and she was a crappy cook

[neat kiln]

I need a timestamp here to send to a company

[round ermine]

I have a PS4. It exists for Bloodborne.

[olive bronze]

my ps4 has sat under a coffee table since i moved here

[vague oyster]

petition to replace wan show with three hours of Dan responding to merch messages

some of the candid responses are just gold

[tiny mauve]

I wish they would've done a longer WAN today. I can't go to sleep bc I have to leave in 2h30 and I don't want to do my uni projects 😔

Why can't they cater the wan show length to me specifically and only to me? 😔

[tulip hatch]

I also have a PS4.
It exists entirely as a Netflix player.
Even installed a sandisk extreme II SSD to make the experience snappier.

[plain aurora]

I have a PS4 pro.
it sits in my wardrobe.
Techinically not mine, brother gets free storage.
I used it for like 3 months then got the 5.

[neat kiln]

I have my PS4 Pros, slims, and OG models.
I fix them to resell, but I have a pro for myself.
Going to mod it and dump bloodborne, gravty rush, infamous, since the ps4 emulation scene has picked up.
Also serves as my bluray player

[tiny mauve]

I have never had a console in my life, I've always been a PC man

[civic swallow]

I agreed with Linus in large part with the criticism of HexOS, but I still don't see the price being reasonable.
He talked about how the price is based on how much it costs to make it, but you don't have per license manufacturing costs in the same way as with a physical products. If the pricing was more reasonable you would more likely see more people actually buying it now and in the future. Having more customers could in the end bring in more money than charging fewer people for more.
If this would be enterprise software, I would totally get the pricing as one would be profiting from it, but isn't this consumer focused? I've spend way less than 300$ on my NAS that has 5TB usable storage. A license to the OS costs more than the entire NAS ffs

If price is too high, people won't buy it, and the project dies

[true bison]

He also makes an argument that all software is based on something else (Linux), like steamOS.
The point he missed is that those are all FREE to use

[civic swallow]

Wait didn't someone else first comment "HexOS isn't an OS it's just an overlay for TrueNAS" and then Linus responded to that well then SteamOS is just an overlay to Arch

HexOS is definitely an OS

I don't see why someone is even arguing that it's not

[civic swallow]

Well, he also mentioned macOS which you definitely pay for

Nowadays the macOS license is baked into the price of the machine but in the old days you actually had to buy every new update

[true bison]

You can download a macOS img right now for free

[civic swallow]

Yeah but if you don't install it on a Mac, it's piracy

You bought the license with the Mac

[tiny nimbus]

I have vivid memories of sitting in an Apple Store using store wifi to download the first free OS X update (Lion) way back in 2011, it’s been a while

[civic swallow]

Why do I recall Snow Leopard still being paid?

Oh wait

[true bison]

right,.. and Linus never supports piracy (see latest Windows video)

[civic swallow]

Lion is 10.7

Yeah makes sense

[civic swallow]

I'm kinda doubting that statement

[true bison]

At the very least, the $99 beta test cost is a bad business move, even if they need money.

[tiny nimbus]

Snow Leopard made news for having “no new features” and costing only $29 at launch

I paid $30 for the OS X Public Beta

[true bison]

Sorry wrong link

https://youtu.be/yJkRd9py5mA?si=zrGREMM4wChESfZK

[cursive tiger]

my counterargument is pre-95 windows

[civic swallow]

I'm not saying it should be free, I'm saying that the 300$ price tag is unreasonable

[opal mortar]

Hi. I was just watching the today's (Dec 13, 2024) Show and had to capture this picture at 34:08. Please don't go too far with it!

[teal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408086218518167552/1302234799917760583/luke_aaaa_loop.gif

[desert copper]

Imo for the average consumer $300 is cheap considering someone else did all the heavy lifting for them. Go look at Synology that is going to run you about the same. But this software allows you to have a more powerful system and versatility, while recycling your old machine.

On top of that if you look at the world of tech, it's vast. Not everyone has the time, motivation, or desire to learn another full time job.

[civic swallow]

300$ is cheap? I'm not sure if I'm just too broke to see that but that's definitely not cheap

[civic swallow]

I never said "just do it yourself", I just said that I think the price is too high for a large amount of people

I'd see the majority seeing the 300$ price tag on top of the hardware cost and just saying fuck it and going with a mainstream cloud provider

If you're building the NAS from used parts you could definitely get a second NAS for that 300$

I mean ofc you won't do anything with an other NAS if you can't use the software

But I don't see the value of the software being 300$

I'd definitely see many tech-intrested people and maybe myself using this software if the license cost was lower

And also would probably buy multiple licenses over the years

But let's say I'd need to build two NASes, that would already be 600$ just in software

That's what a budget gaming PC costs brand new

100$ pre-tax would be a price I'd see a lot of people being able to spend

[desert copper]

But the average person who is looking into a nas already knows it'll be pricey unless they have the time to learn the ins and outs. Which is why Synology is so successful. And that shit is expensive

[civic swallow]

A couple terabytes of HDDs and an old optiplex won't be expensive

Let's say a 4TB HDD is like 90$ and you get two of those for a RAID1/mirror configuration, you'd still have 120€ to find an optiplex to fit into that 300$ figure. Than double that price to get the software

Your 300$ NAS now costs 600$ cause of the ridiculous software pricing

At that point why even bother building a NAS? Just go buy one of those premade Synology or Western Digital NASes

[frozen agate]

(context, $99 license buyer)
cheap, no, but expensive? definitely not for something you entrust your data to.

Personally, I work a long work week, dont have time to do all my own hobbies and tasks, nevermind spending the time to learn how ZFS works and which RAID profile is the most optimal for my drive layout. I just want it to work, and I want a comparatively high performance system, instead of some cheapo intel pentium in a trench coat system that is going to leave me with a bad taste in my mouth or a hole in my wallet the size of a small moon just to have a few terabytes of storage.

At the end of the day, if the price is too high, chances are it isnt meant for you anyway, and if the price seams cheap, chances are you're already better off using TrueNAS directly, so, they've hit a reasonable middleground on pricing for folk like me who haven't got the time to go and learn how to manage a TrueNAS system, but still want a NAS using our own hardware. I think the pricing is fair for the (planned) value that the software could provide

[civic swallow]

Oh the software definitely isn't for me, I never said that it is. I was just excited about the project as I know a lot of people who would have benefited from software like this, but seeing the price tag I don't think it's a reasonable price for what it is. If the pricing would be lower I would definitely want to recommend it to others

[neat kiln]

300 for a lifetime license is comparatively cheap for software

This isn't 150 for a windows license that will last 5 years with updates. This is an OS license that should last with updates as long as the company does

Its a one time purchase.
One time purchase for indefinite licensed software is expensive

[spice oak]

any time I see life time license, at some point, the company will redefine what life time means where it no longer means for the rest of your life

because life time licenses are never sustainable business wise

enterprise software, at least some enterprise software, has always been subscription based. You usually get a 1 year license up front, and if you want updates and fixes, you need to pay another 1 year license.

[desert copper]

And the best part is if the company goes under guess what trueNAS is still around and that's what the underlying system is at the end of the day.

Tbh I'm guessing this buddy backup and actual features will be an extra charge. Which to me is no different than dlc. And honestly idm dlc as long as it's content and not horse armor. FYI I'm assuming that there will be a lot more usable apps for that $300 price tag. Because the NAA feature is already built in. Tbh right now I find hexOS to be underwhelming, but this is by design. Lol it was so easy to set up.

[woeful crescent]

I think Linus said it’s part of the base package, of course the buddy will need their own license, but there’s no extra charge on top of that..

[desert copper]

Lol I know that's what he says but I am skeptical on that since they do need to continue making money so that they can be self sustainable I don't want them to go away lol

[woeful crescent]

I think Linus wouldn’t have said anything about it if he wasn’t sure.. so fairly sure he has commitments about the Buddy System.. I’m sure there are other features they can add that would require you to pay them, or require a subscription..

[cursive tiger]

then we're both in agreement

i think it's a great project and i would like to see it succeed but at $300 i don't see it capturing much of the potential market

a genuine windows 11 home license is less than half that and that's a much bigger project with multiple orders of magnitude more developers and overheads
of course hexos is being sold at much lower volume so they have to charge more but i feel like closer to $200 would make it more popular

again, like nearly everyone here i couldn't tell you how much it costs them to make or how many people are using it

[woeful crescent]

It does help that it'll have a Subscription, so thats a solid try before you buy option.. and while $300 might be the lifetime license base price, no idea how often it'll be on sale and by how much.. I don't know anyone that got lifetime plex at full price for example..

[small heath]

It's been a few months since I started watching Wan show but forgot to ask this question. They randomly ring the bell sometimes, whats that about

[woeful crescent]

Dad Joke

[small heath]

Ah

[woeful crescent]

I know its been mentioned there, but I think its on a few of the behind the scenes tours too.. maybe Sara Dietchy, or Gerald Undone's..

[small heath]

Gotcha. I started watching Wan show maybe 3 months ago. Been wondering that every week until now 😭😂

Thanks

[woeful crescent]

I think Dan has called him out in a few main channel videos wishing he had the bell to ring too 🙂

[woeful crescent]

It bothered me too much to not look.. https://youtu.be/Ru4g4Rm0Mfo?si=JUtg20ghqm8aO5rq&t=728

Timestamped to "close enough"

[small heath]

Gotchaa

Thanks 😂

[graceful swan]

HexOS license fee amortized over 5-10 years, is pretty cheap when you think about the monthly cost.
$2.50/month after 10 years.

[woeful crescent]

also its a great tour video to begin with.. the camera dying and video being corrupted mid-Linus rant about SD Cards was gold.. and I like Geralds tours..

Agreed, $300 really isn't that much big picture.. especially if it IS what it claims to be, minimal knowledge needed to get setup and running.. Yes, there are free options, but unless you already know what you're doing imagine cost per hour of learning or getting someone else to do it..

and if you do know what you're doing, well then, you can do it yourself and save the money, or spend anyway just to turn your brain off lol

[crude sandal]

Then you don't know the Nas market very well

People happily spend many hundreds on a basic ass Synology before they even get to buying the drives

A system which is both very performance limited and drive limited

Compare this to the system they used in the video, less than $100 + $299 for the lifetime license at full price + drives.... For which the only limit is the amount of SATA ports on the board and then the amount of pcie slots/lanes for HBAs or whatever to attach more drives

[crude sandal]

If this would be enterprise software, I would totally get the pricing

If this was enterprise software the lifetime license would be thousands if even an option

[plain aurora]

enterprise software prices are wild

absolute wild.

[true bison]

How much is TrueNas?

[crude sandal]

"if you have to ask you can't afford it"

[frozen agate]

"request a quote"

[true bison]

It was rhetorical smartass.
It’s opensource (not enterprise)

[frozen agate]

It's literally enterprise, and open source. They can coexist lmao

They have enterprise offerings locked behind licenses, and they have open source offerings which are not. The two are not mutually exclusive

[true bison]

That meant I was referring to the non-enterprise

[frozen agate]

The enterprise features are expensive, and the open source stuff is free, HexOS is taking the open source stuff, and making it easier, or even in some cases adding entirely new things

[frozen agate]

"(not enterprise)", gotcha, not referring to the enterprise part that isn't open source. Understood.

You asked how much TrueNAS costs, you didn't specify Scale, Core, or Enterprise, additionally open source doesn't always mean free

[true bison]

What I was asking, because I use unRaid and have never touched TrueNas, is if HexOS goes under, do you fall back to the ‘free version’ of TrueNas, or a higher tier?

[frozen agate]

You fall back to whatever you want, because ultimately you are using a truenas system under the hood either way, and can pay for the enterprise licence of the OS if you'd like. That's the beauty of it, if they go under you dont have to replace your whole OS and rebuild your arrays. You have it all, and it all just falls back

[true bison]

So, if I’m understanding this right, $300 for a ‘simplified OS’, that’s built on a free version of TrueNas, that if it goes under, the less informed customer has to learn permissions etc. anyway to continue using their stuff?

[frozen agate]

Well, it's obviously going to be built on the free version, they're not gonna sell you a license to software you're not going to use, are they

[true bison]

I wonder if a gofundme would have been a better way to go to get development money?
I tried selling this to my tech illiterate Dad (74) and he couldn’t wrap his head around the price either.
To each their own.

[woeful crescent]

GoFundMe isn’t going to keep them employed for new features and keeping it up to date. They aren’t making a one-and-done object, it’s something that will have prolonged costs. A subscription service with a lifetime option is the best option.. now if your not willing to pay the price then ya you can get TrueNAS and diy it.. others spend even more for a Synology option which has higher upfront costs and is imho a worse product.

[tiny mauve]

Take out the "imho" and it's still right

[kind fractal]

Yeah they're asking for money way too soon

No track record, no release, just "pay now get early access" and "buy now before it goes up!"

[signal root]

Unexpected start to this weeks show

[brittle moon]

The phrases “no release” and “pay now get early access” right next to each other makes me think you’re a troll

It either is compelling to you, so you buy it, or it doesn’t make sense to you so you don’t. I wish y’all would stop bring up the same 4 things that they’ve already answered

[keen bloom]

Anyone else notice that the wan show with the upside down thumbnail may be in violation of W3C standards? I know it applies to websites but not sure if it would apply in this case. I have some sensory issues and it kinda hurt my brain

I'm probably overthinking things

[woeful crescent]

If we removed everything from youtube that affects people with sensory issues it would be an empty site.. which might be for the best..

That and w3c is recommendations, not actual enforced rules.. grand scheme very little follows it 100%, or even close to that..

Not that they should ignore it either, but one thumbnail for one video on a site that is full of issues.. gonna give em a pass there..

Now something like say the Labs site, thats something I'd want them to take the effort to be right

[tiny mauve]

If it's actually a problem, just use DeArrow

[woeful crescent]

https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/16/china_starflash_universal_remotes_standard/

[quartz wave]

Which standard from W3C? if talking WCAG then there is a whole lot more on YT to worry about. Even though they are all really 'guidelines' I'm curious to know what the infringing part would be about that thumbnail. its not something I'm super up to date on so curious to know more.

[tepid sierra]

😆

[woeful crescent]

https://gizmodo.com/wordpress-forces-users-to-agree-that-pineapple-is-good-on-pizza-2000539250

[random trout]

Weird. My login screen says something else.

[last light]

Someone must not like MKBHD. there's more bodycam videos surfacing of him speeding

[woeful crescent]

Its the internet, if theres a chance to take someone down or drum up drama people will take it..

Beyond thinking he shoudn't be speeding down roads unless hes had them blocked off, I honestly don't care.. theres only so much room for stuff for me to care about and someone speeding really doesn't get consideration till they hit someone, or damage my car.

[timid ruin]

...or if it happens at 3am under my window and I wake up for the sudden noise (used to live close to a luxury sports car rental place)

[woeful crescent]

Since Terry Fox comes up a lot on WANShow, and thats a good thing.. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/canadian-hero-terry-fox-being-featured-on-next-5-bill-1.7147640

[spice cairn]

[drifting creek]

I wonder if MKBHD gets taken down, we’ll get some weird influencer filling the gap

[restive rain]

he is not getting taken down

why would he

[odd grail]

The internet, and particularly influencer culture, loves a target. It’s dumb.

[frozen agate]

what are they targeting him for now?

oh wait I found it

I can safely go back to not giving a monkey's

[odd grail]

Preeeety much

[frozen agate]

*continues speeding anyway because the road is empty and im not going a speed from which I couldn't stop if something came up

[tiny nimbus]

Loved all the top comments on his recent videos, “give him a brake”

[restive rain]

at a certain point it just gets exhausting

[vestal breach]

I just now remembered to finish off the bingo sheet from Friday and I actually got a bingo for the first time in a while; also ended up with the most squares marked off in a while too, while still only having one completed line

[wanton token]

i got pinapple

[tiny mauve]

I wouldn't login.

That's an awful thing to agree with

[wanton token]

I do think this is very stupid and childish

but also im fine with pinapple on pizza

imo pinapple on pizza is on the low end of pizza crimes

[tiny mauve]

Genocide might be worse, but a murder is still a murder.
I hereby sentence you to 3 months of British cuisine only, with a minimum of 2 daily portions of 100 grams of jellied eels.

[restive rain]

pineapple on pizza is literally fine

people are just haters because they never tried it and the internet told them to hate it

[woeful crescent]

Pineapple Pizza is the biggest Troll Canada has unleased onto the word.. almost as bad as Bieber and Nickleback.

[deft fog]

Purely anecdotal, but all the people I've seen truly hate on pineapple on pizza are fat fricks who don't like vegetables period

They'll look at a ham and pineapple and then go ewww and their only ever order is the meatlovers supremem

[jolly oar]

pineapple is a fruit

[woeful crescent]

I love pineapple.. just keep it off my pizza plz..

[real stag]

I like Pineapple on its own but on pizza its either mouthburning hot or when the pineapple is at a reasonable temp, the pizza is cold

And i aint a fan of either

[tiny mauve]

I love pineapple but I also hate pinapple because it gives me mouth ulcers 😔😢

it's always worth it tho

[true bison]

Pineapple goes with ham.
Pineapple can even go on a burger.

Still don’t like it on a pizza.

[frozen agate]

congrats on your Bingo!

[tiny mauve]

My hope is that one day I'll get cookies whenever I get a bingo.

I'm OK with it being browser cookies.

Cc: Chronified & Brock

[tender prism]

True

[tiny nimbus]

Oop, unexpected Intel ARC build stream. Pre-show live

[tulip hatch]

Live!!1

Solid Side Panel is superior. ​​Tempered glass side panel is pure garbage.

[frosty spire]

to me, pineapple tastes like industrial dish soap with sugar on it. i have hated pineapple since before the internet 😛

[frosty spire]

i'll go ya one further: RGB is the leopard print of computers.

[tiny nimbus]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/12/report-us-considers-banning-tp-link-routers-over-security-flaws-ties-to-china/

[tulip hatch]

Netgear > TP-Link

I like Mikrotik though

RouterOS is neat