the-wan-show

[vague birch]

It's total madness

Swear words and mental punches

[pine kernel]

Is this a physical or digital game

[vague birch]

Physical

[pine kernel]

Have they done it before

[vague birch]

https://bubblehockey.com/

They have done it twice before

[pine kernel]

Cool

Is chexx the brand name

Because it’s table hockey

[drifting creek]

Luke and Linus stuck in a groove.

Plus i guess the topics are good this week.

[vague birch]

Propably yes

Finally after dark

[pine kernel]

lol

I was so surprised when it wasn’t after dark when I tuned in

[vague birch]

Show has been going on for 3h 48min

[pine kernel]

I forgot what the record was

Like 4h and something

[vague birch]

If I remember it was almost 5h and with pre-show it was 5h

https://whenplane.com/history

Longest main show is 5h 16min 35s

[pine kernel]

Damn

Still a ways off

Definitely not gonna be longest lol

[vague birch]

Not by a long shot 😄

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/last-week-tonight-john-oliver-recap-season-9-episode-7-congress-data-1335598/

[wary dew]

is wan live?

[pallid escarp]

Yes

[vague birch]

Yes

[hard jolt]

live

[wary dew]

lol, its 7:45 am here...

[hard jolt]

g'mornin!

[vague birch]

9:45 here 😛

[wary dew]

morning

[wary dew]

so you never usually watch it?

[vague birch]

I work graveyard shift so I'm always awake for it

[wary dew]

nice

[olive bronze]

i took a 4 hour nap this afternoon so i'm still kind of ok

[vague birch]

I took a 3 hour nap before show, because I had a murderous headache

[olive bronze]

my hip was hurting so i took a xanax at noon

[trim nebula]

It's 4:50pm for me, started watching when they went live hours ago

[vague birch]

I took 1 gram on parasetamol and 400mg of ibuprofein, they did not help at all

[trim nebula]

took a break during the middle

[olive bronze]

its almost 3 am here

[hard jolt]

go full send with a beer

jk, don't conform to my own alcoholism

[vague birch]

I don't drink alcohol anymore, so no worries there 😄

[olive bronze]

i might have a shot before i go to bed

[crude sandal]

it's officially a 4 hour show so far

[hard jolt]

I thrive on youtube cuts of the wanshow all week

shoutout to whoever cuts those up

[olive bronze]

i'm not doing well at paying attention at this point

[vague birch]

Doesn't Nick do those cuts?

[pallid escarp]

If anyone is wondering, Draw Climbers goes above level 99 and 100

[bronze pilot]

Is the wan vod not up

[vague birch]

Wan is still going

[crude sandal]

the show isn't over

[vague birch]

Show must go on xD

Oh shiiit, gotta switch to my phone, gotta go do some stuff

[crude sandal]

we're minutes away from saturday wan

[hard jolt]

Almost there

[brittle moon]

2 minutes

[hard jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/john-wall-gif-9277081

Awww yea

[trim nebula]

I'm 7hrs away from Sunday WAN

[brittle moon]

SATURDAY WAN LETS GOOOOO (in their timezone)

[hard jolt]

Ohhh shhiiiiii haha

Hows lunch?

[crude sandal]

Pfft Australian, I'm 5 hours

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[trim nebula]

chat ban this guy

[trim nebula]

I've been eating twisties all stream

[vague birch]

Lol

Womp womp

[trim nebula]

gotta go get milk and chips, cya folks

[brittle moon]

i started late so have been watching the show at 1.75x speed for the past few hours, suddenly i caught up and theyre talking so slow lol

[crude sandal]

Smh

[long pawn]

wait a bit 5 hours?

what is going on

did they break the record again?

[hard jolt]

I think so

[brittle moon]

nah the show is at 4h 16m

longest show was 5h 16m

[dim wraith]

In which chat can I ask them questions? At the Wan show

[long pawn]

for me youtube is saying 5 hours

it might be fucking bugged

[hard jolt]

I missed the intro, someone posted that it was longer but if @brittle moon is right, then right

[brittle moon]

merch messages are read the most (but not all are read out loud. most just flash at the bottom of the screen for a few seconds), that pops up as an option when you buy merch when theyre live. They also read stuff from floatplane chat sometimes (and rarely twitch)

[brittle moon]

not for me

[crude sandal]

It definitely doesn't, reload the page

[long pawn]

yeah I did a reload and it keeps saying 5 hours

something is strange

might be due to some timezone bug

[brittle moon]

maybe

I also made a system monitoring how long its running, and it also says 4h, so for a sec you had me worried i messed something up lol

[long pawn]

other people on the chat are saying 5 hours

something might be wrong on youtube side

[dim wraith]

Says 4:45 for me

[long pawn]

literally this

[brittle moon]

it started at 7:47 pm, which was just over 4 hours ago

[hard jolt]

lol

[olive bronze]

4 hours 21 min

[hard jolt]

gg

[long pawn]

good to know youtube is bugged on my side

[olive bronze]

waiting for after

[crude sandal]

not 21 whole minutes, so 4:20 wan show

[bronze pilot]

Does this count as the makeup wanshow for the time in August they skipped a show delayed it a week

[long pawn]

I don't have floatplane but I might buy it just for the after

[brittle moon]

4h 20m wan show... kinda lol

[crude sandal]

correction: 4:21:32, timeline time was wrong

[bronze pilot]

Nah we believe time line time

[long pawn]

timeline time for me was a full hour ahead

[hard jolt]

@brittle moon OG AF

the sacred timeline

[olive bronze]

its almost ready

[tiny nimbus]

Oh no, the YouTube VOD cuts off at least the first five minutes of the show. Starts in the middle of discussing topic 1

[brittle moon]

starts off at "welcome to the wan show" for me

[tiny nimbus]

Oop, guess I gotta turn off Adblock for a bit then, the MP4 video container that replaced YouTube’s player only shows the last 4h15m of the stream for some reason

[spice oak]

So someone, perhaps Colton, told Linus to keep ads enabled on twitch. For those who complain about the ads on twitch, I immediately switched to youtube because there is no ads. Now I only go on twitch for the pre-show, and then immediately switch to youtube. I keep the chat open on twitch, it just has the stream paused.

Is someone mad at twitch or some kind of contract requires ads to be enabled on twitch now?

[tiny nimbus]

Pretty sure it’s just because Colton wants the ad revenue from the people who won’t sign up to Floatplane

[spice oak]

so he's counting on people who are stubborn?

[verbal plaza]

I still need to follow up on the previous episode, which still doesn't have subtitles enabled. Also mailed.

[cursive tiger]

they talked about it in the show, you'd be surprised how many people are stubborn

[cursive tiger]

it certainly won't for the worse

[frozen agate]

Absolutely!
(for legal reasons we cannot guarantee that a subscription to floatplane will actually change your life for the better)

[cursive tiger]

there's a lot of really great content on there atm

[spice oak]

the nintendo logo being required for all gameboy games, that they could then sue you if you didn't sign an agreement, that was tested in court with sega and sega lost. https://segaretro.org/Sega_v._Accolade

[agile arrow]

it's funny to me hearing countries that actually block or even warn you for "navigating the seas", when here unless you are watching football "for free", they just don't give a fuck

[spice oak]

Interesting. Luke gets car sick for the same reason I do. If I do any kind of reading, like from my phone, it might make me feel car sick.

[sharp plinth]

it tends to give me a raging headache

only thing that gives me motion sickness is acrobatics in a glider weirdly

[sharp plinth]

Youtube allows you to rewind and pause in comparison with Twitch, so I tend to prefer it.

[spice oak]

yep, since I no longer participate in twitch chat, neither do I with youtube, there's no point to it.

[sharp plinth]

oh yeah I pay zero attention to chat

[spice oak]

very low chance that Linus or Luke will see what I put in chat

[restive rain]

i love how people catully buy the domains lines says on wan show

😭

[sharp plinth]

often just for the memes i guess. sometimes its so that no-one else can use those words to mimick either of them i guess too.

[graceful swan]

Dan makes WAN show so much better!

[tiny mauve]

As of 4 March 2024, the day my subscription ended, there were 362 FP exclusives¹, totalling a whopping 118h 40min 32s of exclusive content.

Not all of it is great content, ofc, but I was plenty satisfied with the price-content ratio, though not for a year-long subscription. I'll likely be buying the sub for a month or 2 every year.

¹the last one to be released while I was still subbed was "Extras - Apple Vision Pro Review from Linus' Perspective"

[elfin cloud]

the raw footage content is also great. makes you realize how good the editors are 😊

[dense ridge]

Worth it for super Chex alone

Pre show vod is also nice

[vague birch]

FP chat is a perk too

[tiny nimbus]

FP chat is pretty much useless to anyone east of the Atlantic

[vague birch]

I'm in the northern EU mate, you watch it live if you want to

[tiny nimbus]

Sure you’ll get the odd LTT build stream during the day, but a 2-3am start for WAN Show is just not manageable for most

[vague birch]

I call it a preference and a minor inconvenience 🤷

[tiny nimbus]

Pulling a night shift for a video podcast is certainly a choice

[vague birch]

Yeah, night shift ain't for everybody

[sharp plinth]

My insomnia usually ends up aligning with when WAN starts most weeks.

[spice oak]

insomnia is not a good thing to have

[vague birch]

My brain just doens't like to shut off, the down side of my autism

[sharp plinth]

its irritating and rather random unfortuately.

[spice oak]

Yeah. Is it like you're tired, but can't fall asleep?

[sharp plinth]

yep. i'm usually in a lot of pain, which leads to me sleeping at random times, so my sleep pattern can randomly move around.

[spice oak]

chronic pain?

yeah, that would make it difficult to sleep

[fiery gulch]

Quick question, I just got an advertisement for sydney morning herald on the first minute of wan show, is this the dynamic ad injection thing I keep hearing about

I guess the server must have known which advertisement to insert based on my ip address?

[real siren]

Which platform are you watching from?

[fiery gulch]

Not that I mind but that just got my attention

Iphone, using overcast

[real siren]

It would be an overcast ad based on your IP

[fiery gulch]

I have overcast premium and the developer is not known for inserting ads into this podcast app

But I would check as well, this is curious

[fiery gulch]

yeah I was told by various other overcast users that the mp3 is downloaded from the original server

I did mail the developer and will see but considering I have overcast premium and the developer of overcast is a known podcaster who has pretty strong takes about these ads, this is pretty curious

[fiery gulch]

Ah it does show DAI on this “megaphone” thing

is this something that LTT is okay with though? to have ads dynamically inserted into the podcast? I only listen to wan show every now and then so I may not be up to date on their take on these

[frozen agate]

Honestly, I don't see how this is different than a non-premium Spotify user having ads put into their podcasts, idk how spotify handles that, but I doubt they wait for a 4 hour episode to finish to make you listen to ads

[graceful swan]

Megaphone is a podcast hosting company that was acquired by Spotify.

Like YouTube, content creators use a platform to host their content, and in exchange the platform gets to run ads.

Podcasting became a big thing, and a viable business, so the content gets monetized to pay for the cost of delivering the content.

Things don't stay free forever.

[fiery gulch]

that's fair, I was just assuming all the ad reads I'll hear on wan show will be human read, but I guess DAI might just be the future

[mellow wedge]

im doing house chores and listening to the wan show on linus and luke doing 20mins+ mental gymnastics talking themselves into taking vpn sponsorships, god dam. get yourselves together, take their sponsorships and stop talking about it, accept the fact on your sponsor is enabling pedos and stop trying to reason about it; or stand on the moral high ground and not take their money. so many time spent just talking about a topic they have done in the past, guess those money bags are too big

[frozen agate]

🇱 take if I've ever seen one

[brittle moon]

they werent mentioning enabling pedos as an issue with taking them as a sponsor. that was an issue with them running their own vpn.
The issue with VPN proviers as a sponsor was misleaking marketing

[mellow wedge]

I see, so the vpn providers don't have the issue of enabling pedos

[brittle moon]

kinda like cost of doing business. In order to have a private VPN, they have to do that. Unfortunate part of the world. If theyre able to remove pedos and stuff, then the VPN isnt private, which defeats the purpose of a VPN for most people

[lapis terrace]

they could also just give the feds the worst people that harm people but also protect the users who just download movies or whatever

[brittle moon]

what im saying is that if they have the ability to give up anyone then its not really private

[graceful swan]

VPNs are a tool. Knives are a tool. You can use them for good, security or chopping, or evil, like stabbing.

We can't ban all tools because people could use them for evil. Especially when the tools are proliferate like code.

That said, not everyone wants to be involved in the legal issues of running certain online services.

[cursive tiger]

bans screwdrivers longer than 10cm

[graceful swan]

I remember flying internationally with a swiss army knife, but I wouldn't call weapons restrictions on planes a ban.

[cursive tiger]

annoyingly the limit for how long a screwdriver can be in new zealand is just under the length of the normal sized ltt screwdriver

it's by less than an inch

[graceful swan]

I feel so safe with these rules. /s

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.firstpost.com/tech/tesla-lays-off-14000-people-or-10-per-cent-of-its-workforce-reveals-leaked-email-from-elon-musk-13759861.html

[drifting creek]

Tesla squandered its lead and has a huge image problem being so tied personally to Elon Musk

[sleek vessel]

This the type of guy to support government encryption backdoors on messaging services

[full jungle]

I wonder if they could have a cutout in the terms of use of the VPN on the specific crimes where they will not stand in the way of investigators, but they will still not log anything

[brittle moon]

the issue is that if they keep logs for anyone, then they arent a no-log vpn

and if they maintain no logs for anyone, then they are harboring actual scum, which luke said he wouldnt be able to live with

[hard lintel]

Anyone got a popup on discord asking to agree to some new terms today?

[brittle moon]

yeah, they sent an email about it over a month ago iirc

[hard lintel]

something about arbitration in there but idk if that applies to canadians. i sent an email to opt out regardless

i barely ever look at my accounts email

[keen bloom]

https://youtu.be/2v063wuJtM0?si=vSC2rMksHr1919YO youtube deleting ukranian channel due to multiple flags. Moderators refuse to lisent (acording to video).

Looks like ruskies have anexed youtube moderators.

[keen bloom]

Yep

[oblique marsh]

Just curious did anyone else see that news via Bing has become increasingly blocked by the demand to download the bing app?

Might be worth talking about. I have screenshots.

You used to be able to click on the stories that said "on msn" and then click a button to expand the story.. now that button has been replaced with a "continue reading on the app". I Get wanting people to migrate to the app, but this seems scummy.

I used to be able to click the app button then the android back button but now that doesn't even work.

[tight mauve]

seems a lot of channels covering this subject keep going through this

[vale kettle]

wan show since October 6 and working back from there. ama

I had over 150 hours in dndads before I moved to their patreon but still

[spice grove]

which app is this?

[tawny siren]

Looks like Google to me

[cursive tiger]

rest in peace google podcasts

[keen bloom]

https://youtu.be/I9vrWLyXV4w?si=ArkkXg5gq18VBjKD the ruskies advance on ther bot war soon all will be lost.

[prisma needle]

What was that really wild sport they showed on the wan show a few months ago? Spanish racquetball or something?

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68821406

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/16/discord_network_sale/

[limber jewel]

I wonder if billions of sh*t posts are worth anything 🤣

[brittle moon]

If it’s natural human text, it is worth something to ai companies

[restive rain]

yea

spy.pet

its quite the info dumb they have been able to scrape

though if you are sending stuff in public servers you should always do that with the assumption that it is being logged/saved

this is also not the first one of these that ahs existed, there have been ones in the past

[misty cloud]

In a few Wan show episodes the guys have said how much they dislike teams; Just wondering have they ever explained why ? I have moved our enterprise over to teams in the past 4 years and embraced all the advanced functionality and for the vast majority of our workforce it is painless. Curious as to what the experiences exactly are in LMG

[iron rune]

https://tenor.com/view/trizzy-trizzy019-gif-25249988

[harsh sundial]

Not LMG but I use Teams for both work and a massive non-profit I work for. Teams is a dumpster fire. We do a ton of webinars and meetings over Teams. A vast majority of us can’t chat on Teams for Windows (it just says you can’t chat until the meeting starts). Notifications hardly ever work. You can’t mass delete chats but Teams insists on keeping the chat for that one meeting you had FOREVER… How can a program as big as Teams doesn’t let you multi-select and delete a chat?

Video call quality is worse than Skype…that Microsoft turned into Teams.

Discord call quality is SO MUCH BETTER and it’s free…

Teams is a worse MSN Messenger

[tiny nimbus]

Just sat through that 7-hour-plus charity auction stream and by FAR the best moment was when Elijah found out that far from being alive after “popping off on Twitch a few years ago,” Bob Ross died in 1995 before Elijah was even born

Aaaaaaand it’s getting light outside in the UK 💤

[chilly widget]

Lol, have a good morning jc

[spice oak]

yeah, I remember that moment in the stream with Elijah. He just looked drained then.

[tiny nimbus]

I intend to enjoy multiple consecutive naps this afternoon

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk-out-cashierless-ai-india

[tiny nimbus]

I just had to watch that segment again to see Elijah’s reaction to the news, too long for me to clip

[graceful swan]

is there like a 10-20 minute best of cut of this 7 hour video for those that don't have the time?

[tiny nimbus]

There were only like three or four moments where I laughed that hard, I don’t think anyone at LMG will bother to create a highlight reel from a charity auction

I have ideas for how they could improve or condense the format for next time, but I don’t think anyone at LMG would listen to me

[graceful swan]

if there are 3-4 bangers like that, clip em. that was great. but 7 hours? nope, unless it's like wanshow and i can listen in the background while i play vids

[tiny nimbus]

There was a whole lot more interactivity over on Whatnot with the live auctions, people “accidentally” submitting bids, live chat etc that wouldn’t necessarily fit in the context of stream clips

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133700/google-fires-28-employees-protest-israel-cloud-contract

[restive rain]

who could have ever seen this coming

28 emplyees or $1.2 billion

"googlers", thats quite the name

[sleek sinew]

..

[keen bloom]

How often is wan show?

[elfin cloud]

once a week on friday/saturday depending on your timezone

https://whenplane.com/

[spice oak]

during the stream, I was surprised how much disposable income some people had

[keen bloom]

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1329624 this is infuriating. How did we get here?

[fallow panther]

Does anyone here rember what episode the WAN show they launched the 3D down jacket and the windbraker? I want to go back and take a look at the presentation of them before I decide to buy one of them

[elfin cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/live/A6_UOejJ8Zk?si=8UAnjDSd2I-cwdSy&t=6502 3d down

https://www.youtube.com/live/s-llzV_3LaE?si=7F6ZdQE-B4fBPXvw&t=8821 windbreaker.

[fallow panther]

Thank you! You're the MVP

[cursive tiger]

Yes, all the info is already public in a way — Discord is kinda like IRC on steroids
ouch

[rugged panther]

i just noticed that protonDB started tracking also games working on chromebooks

[cloud thicket]

Would like to see DLLs take on watcher entertainment (the BuzzFeed unsolved guys) moving everything to their streaming service

https://youtu.be/g-ohi1iYP5k?si=BAuqGnG7jUkd2dTx

https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/watcher-goodbye-youtube-subscription-streaming-service-1235974091/

[restive rain]

There are far to many streaming services

[cloud thicket]

Yep, I also don't think their content is high enough quality to warrant the cost, they do travel, paranormal and food shows, like that's usually low tier cable TV at best

I like it, but as a YouTube video I pull up when I want to see someone ghost hunt while making jokes

Now how this applies to LTT is a whole other thing, I personally subscribe and unsubscribe from floatplane based on my finances and content releases, would love to hear Linus's and lukes take since they're integral to running floatplane

[tiny nimbus]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/lastpass-users-targeted-in-phishing-attacks-good-enough-to-trick-even-the-savvy/

[tiny nimbus]

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-no-match-for-car-wash-1851417011

[tiny nimbus]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/19/24134753/tesla-recall-cybertruck-faulty-accelerator-pedal-nhtsa-defect

[tiny mauve]

I'll forever miss MSN Messenger... Nothing will ever top it. Using the MSN sounds for other messenger apps helps with the pain of no longer having it, but it's not enough.

[main falcon]

I've been on iMessage and everything else so long, I barely remember MSN Messenger, but I remember it being extremely stable and reliable for the time

[graceful swan]

things like MSN messenger are good example of the lack of progress in tech.

companies like slack and discord easily couldn't have ever existed if MS didn't fumble so hard.

[graceful swan]

you should DM LTT on instagram to get them to stick to the schedule, it's the best way to get their attention!

[round ermine]

I should ask for a free PC too in that same message while I'm at it

I could use with one of those

[olive bronze]

i want a free pc!

lol

[round ermine]

Holy shit, Preshow is up

This one is fast

And we're just starting!

This is the closest they've been to being on time in a while

[cursive tiger]

yeah because they have a guest whose time they don't want to waste

[sleek kayak]

I just joined. who's on the call?

[brittle moon]

Jim Keller

[sleek kayak]

thanks

oh wow he works at AMD

[graceful swan]

worked

[sleek kayak]

ah

[graceful swan]

he is the ceo at https://tenstorrent.com/

Tenstorrent is right for you if:

You are calm under pressure
You have a laid-back intensity
You love problem solving
You are focused and passionate
You want to build great products and have fun doing it

[sleek kayak]

oh they hiring?

[graceful swan]

yes you can see the jobs on the careers page

[olive bronze]

wow they have a lot of offices

[cursive tiger]

he designed first gen ryzen, the first gen apple silicon phone chips and helped design x64

[sleek kayak]

oh wow. did they cover the discord 64bit thing?

[cursive tiger]

not sure what you're referring to

[olive bronze]

what 64 bit thing?

[sleek kayak]

Most people are running Discord in 32bit so you have to reinstall it.

including myself

[olive bronze]

discord is literally written for a browser. you can run it in most browsers.

other than the ios version... i haven't used the discord app in over a year

for what its worth i can find references on reddit to a 64 bit version of discord from 7 months ago.

[cursive tiger]

yeah it's a website lol

[olive bronze]

i prefer to run it on a browser because i think its better to run it in a tab than as a seperate application

[cursive tiger]

i prefer to run it on a browser becuase i can't be assed installing it and updating a bunch

[olive bronze]

that too

[cursive tiger]

also the new mobile app layout is horrible

[olive bronze]

the mobile version has always been horrible

[plain aurora]

They always make it worse

[cursive tiger]

they recently made it much worse though

[olive bronze]

wow he's quite the futurist

[candid juniper]

WOW...I loved that....more please!!!!

[graceful swan]

Atomic Semi sounds the coolest part.

[olive bronze]

i couldnt believe how much he wanted to talk about

[graceful swan]

Jim loves his job

[woeful crescent]

Wasn't the start of the WANShow I expected, but it was a welcome interview.

[candid juniper]

Guess what "Do No harm" is NOT in the Hippocratic oath! Yes, there something to that fact of doing no harm....but those words in this order does not appear in the oath.

doing no harm as a Dr. is a duh....a yea...that is part of the job...but yea...

[woeful crescent]

Plus a Review is not about do no harm.. no harm is a paid advertisement, NOT a review.. a review, reviews things :p

[graceful swan]

Maybe Luke can ask Jim a question next time lol

[woeful crescent]

He had his chance to submit a question ahead of time like everyone else, clearly none of his made the cut 😉

[vague birch]

I have tried to change DNS providers with no avail, fp keeps throttling between 240p to 1080p every minute on firefox, this is frustrating

[tulip hatch]

WAN show should minimum be 4K 120 Hz IMO

[brittle moon]

yeah, its been an issue on floatplane for a while

[vague birch]

No one has any idea what might be the problem? Increase the buffer or something to mitigate this?

[brittle moon]

nope. It doesnt bother me very much, but if it bothers you, you can watch on youtube, and have the floatplane chat open next to it to keep the superior chat

[vague birch]

My solution is to watch it on phone, it has a 10 second buffer/delay on it. It bothers me because it's unwatchable on the lower resolution, as you can't see anything from the pixel mush and audio gets too wonky for me

[brittle moon]

i usually mostly listen to wan show, and ive never noticed the audio on fp going wonky, only the video occassionally

[vague birch]

I hope they get this resolved

[teal hedge]

Did they show that wan show intro someone made on reddit?

[brittle moon]

they did not, im a little sad

[teal hedge]

Damn

Someone should send a mm

[tulip hatch]

YouTube should start suing individual ad-blocking users for lost ad revenue.

The Sun is already up, why would it be WAN show after dark now. 🇪🇺

[vague birch]

Because you watch it in a dark cave as nerds normally do

[tulip hatch]

WAN Show After Sunrise. 🌞

[vague birch]

Nope for the fireball in the sky xD

[tulip hatch]

Luke

[cursive tiger]

i get it every 10 minutes or so

[vague birch]

Lucky, that wouldn't be so bad for me either if it weren't so frequent as 1 minute

[sleek kayak]

I don't know how many episodes it was ago, but did Linus mention if they still have sponsor with IPA? my long nord vpn subcscription just ended.

[olive bronze]

wow, and colbert isn't even over yet, amazing

[teal hedge]

thats crazy they didnt show it

[cursive tiger]

apparently the youtube video of the wan show is private

[wide wolf]

yeah the wan show just went private for me

[severe shore]

Yup just got kicked from watching it

[fading sonnet]

yeah, i was watching an hour behind, did someone leak something on the show and they pulled it?

[sleek kayak]

Did linus leak something again

[shell shoal]

i was mid piracy take when the show stopped lmao

seemed fitting

[rich cobalt]

F

[wide wolf]

i was just to the part about the tea PC >: (

[cursive tiger]

it just finished based on the goings on in floatplane chat

[formal monolith]

Robot part for me

[cursive tiger]

(i had to leave midway through and floatplane requires you either watch in real time or wait until after the show)

[elder egret]

what happened?

[fading sonnet]

i usually watch behind live and this has not happend before when the show ends, must be something different

[spice cairn]

am here to what happened

[cursive tiger]

also there's no vod from the stream on thursday

[spice cairn]

ye i always miss the start of the show so i just watch the VOD as it gose on

[wide wolf]

the build you a pc right now vid?

[rich cobalt]

Hope they get the vod back up

[halcyon latch]

the guest kept saying the S word... it was scandalous

[brittle moon]

dan said he is fixing it

[cursive tiger]

yeah

[cursive tiger]

the six hour long one

[wide wolf]

it's there for me right now

[spice cairn]

??

[cursive tiger]

i mean on fp

[shell shoal]

shit

[spice cairn]

lol

[brittle moon]

yes there is?

[spice cairn]

shits not that bad

[thorny phoenix]

[cursive tiger]

weird, that one doesn't show up for me

[sleek kayak]

That PC stream was great

[brittle moon]

bottom right. its there

[sleek kayak]

Watched like 4 hours of it tho

[cursive tiger]

that's only the first four minutes though

[swift stag]

lol they said some bad takes about billet labs again i think

[brittle moon]

its not

[cursive tiger]

oh yeah they updated it lol

[spice cairn]

what happened to the vod on YT

[brittle moon]

they updated it thursday evening

[brittle moon]

something. dan said hes fixing it a few minutes ago

[sleek kayak]

wtf is that

[brittle moon]

heres the link if hes able to fix it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnVUXC9Fou4

[swift stag]

Oh dan is fixing it

[spice cairn]

reee'ing intensifies

[swift stag]

based Dan

[brittle moon]

yeah, dan said hes fixing it

[rich cobalt]

Dan the man

[spice cairn]

[random trout]

No no, see, GenSec caught wind that someone was cooking up a storm when Linus mentioned "Muriatic Acid" so they sent in a band of Cloackers to handle the situation. (If you know, you know.)

Seriously though, I believe Dan be fixing the WAN VoD.

https://tenor.com/view/cloaker-jumpscare-payday2-cloaker-jumpscare-scarface-gif-26363553

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[random trout]

Don't worry, GenSec is a terrible security company. Dan's gonna single handedly deal with the Cloackers.

[stark quiver]

No YT vod?

[spice cairn]

i should go to bed anyways

[brittle moon]

dan is working on it

[stark quiver]

I've got the bingo sqaures ready to comment lmao

[rich cobalt]

They done a goof

[stark quiver]

oops got banned doing a character limit test after the stream finished, that's fair, and automated

Automated if you put multiple times over the character limit in chat lol

[spice cairn]

but why

[swift stag]

thats an awfully short ban

[sleek kayak]

why would you even do that in the first place...

[spice cairn]

yeah

[swift stag]

in the name of science

why not

[ornate oasis]

Tried to catch wan and missed it I guess? Vod isn’t up on YouTube. Seems to be missing?

[tulip hatch]

YouTube live chat looks different

[sleek kayak]

i mean now that's on the account...

[brittle moon]

yeah, dan is working on it

[wide wolf]

bc of the ban :^)

[teal hedge]

do u think i should re upload the intro video i guess they just didnt see it?

[stark quiver]

Should note it was Floatplane lol

[ornate oasis]

Awesome thanks

[swift stag]

what if you dont care

[wide wolf]

then chaos rules

[swift stag]

:^)

[spice cairn]

ah yes the scientific method... fuck around find out

[cursive tiger]

probably because it's not youtube lol

[swift stag]

im a big fan of the bdc1faec8960474bbb7b900a01b52cdb emoji

[stark quiver]

Waited until after the show to find out, so I wouldn't be muted midshow lmao

[swift stag]

cant say i dislike 2194_seriously_bro either

[spice cairn]

i dowloaded these for me own server

[swift stag]

not naming them is a chad move

[spice cairn]

but im a lady

[swift stag]

my server has incredible emotes such as

[still kestrel]

Has the Wan show not started yet?

[sleek kayak]

twitch emote names get wild and that's why I love chatting there lol.

[spice cairn]

oh mines got amazing ones but most are lewd

[sleek kayak]

uh...

[swift stag]

theyre hilarious

[wide wolf]

it got banned from existing

[slow void]

At least it was long enough to say they made this weeks

[tulip hatch]

If you technically uppload it first, do you own the copyright to the WAN show then & can copystrike Linus?

[swift stag]

its not your content so no

[still kestrel]

Is there no show tonight?

[brittle moon]

They started less late so they ended less late

[brittle moon]

it already happened

vod has some issues though that dan is trying to fix

[spice cairn]

na they haven't started yet because there super late

[still kestrel]

they are already done???

[spice cairn]

😂

[brittle moon]

yeah

[sleek kayak]

I mean they did start earlier than usual for EST.

[spice cairn]

i wonder if we can gaslight people into thinking that there very late to the WAN show

[stark quiver]

Shortest Floatplane Ban ever, I'm already unbanned lmao

[swift stag]

figured

[plucky spindle]

what wan show? they haven't started yet

[spice cairn]

ikr

im still waiting

[swift stag]

i unsubbed floatplane after the whole gamers nexus exposing thing but i do kinda miss the chat

[spice cairn]

they said there running late and will start soon

[tulip hatch]

But he said he had the video already?
Surely Linus can just claim the revenue from @teal hedges upload then?

[spice cairn]

[stark quiver]

$3 OG tier go brrrr, they said they're raising prices but I'm interested to see if $3 tier will stick around

[swift stag]

im not sure thats how it works fam

[spice cairn]

ye its a tax wright off

[swift stag]

$3 tier good tier but $0 tier is the best tier

[rugged panther]

tax write off vod

[stark quiver]

eh the exclusives are worth it, if Channel Super Fun went to Floatplane Only it'd actually be profitable lol

[shell shoal]

Linus said a few shows ago it :has: to

[wide wolf]

bruh it's been like 10 minutes aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[sleek kayak]

Well time to start watching Fallout. Even picked up Fallout 4

[spice cairn]

i think they said they'll keep all the $3 people as is

[swift stag]

i never realized people were this lost without a wan show vod

this is eye opening

[spice cairn]

[stark quiver]

There's only a finite amount of $3 tier users though, once they unsub they can't come back (can only go to LTX tier and come back down after watching exclusives), they could just write off the loss on the grandfathered $3 tier LOL

[sleek kayak]

wait are you trying to remake their outro?

[neat kiln]

Was wanshort today?

[plucky spindle]

i literally doordashed food to my house and sat down to watch it, now im aimlessly eating and watching nothing

[spice cairn]

my whole world is crashing down around me without the WAN show /s

[plucky spindle]

my life is ruined

[spice cairn]

REEEEEE

[sleek kayak]

yeah luke had to go by 9pm

[neat kiln]

Ah

[swift stag]

watch a good game of super smash bros ultimate instead

[grizzled cobalt]

Wan was my friday... No more....

[sleek kayak]

3 hours is a good time tho

[spice cairn]

me can't Reee no more or warship will get out the booping stick

but you get the idea

[neat kiln]

What were all the good topics

[spice cairn]

yes

and also

no

[wide wolf]

what else am i to do on a friday night???

[swift stag]

get a job

[wide wolf]

turns out my job doesn't work me at 10pm on a friday

[spice cairn]

[swift stag]

get another job that does work you at 10pm on a friday

[grizzled cobalt]

Get another job then?

[swift stag]

[grizzled cobalt]

Lol

[stark quiver]

Funfact, Friday night is the worst night to apply for jobs. Management looks through applications top down, best time is Monday morning at 5am so you're on top of the application tree

[plucky spindle]

i just got off tour, i think i get to take my first friday off in like 3 months lol

[tiny mauve]

stopped around 2h10m in for the sprint race, why is the vod private?

[spice cairn]

na the best time is just to harass them until they give you the job /s

[brittle moon]

dan is working on it

[tiny mauve]

ok then, thx

[swift stag]

The employer's computer auto-deleting my resume at monday 5:01 AM because I didn't meet some stupid basic requirement

[wide wolf]

just lie/heavily exaggerate on your resume

works like a charm

[stark quiver]

It's the god damn suitability tests that gets sent out via indeed for me, I have 5 years of Night Auditing experience, if I get one of those it's LITERALLY faster for me to just drive and talk to the manager lmao

[spice cairn]

lel yeah you didn't have AT LEAST 5 years experience in a minimum wag job that doesn't need anything but a warm body to do

[gentle bear]

Ha that’s incredible, really great work

[teal hedge]

ty

[neat kiln]

I'm somehow lucky for the order of jobs ive had

[neat kiln]

I dont think most are gonna be like that if they want anyone.

[swift stag]

job market sucks rn

[spice cairn]

ah yes you use indeed as well i see

[swift stag]

sad truth

[gentle bear]

You’d be surprised

[spice cairn]

i found a really nice job at a body shop but like it took a year to do so

[stark quiver]

VOD is up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[plucky spindle]

ya failed

[swift stag]

you fucked that up bro

[spice cairn]

[neat kiln]

I mean yeah ive always used indeed so far. They're pretty much the biggest,so most chance your resume might get seen in it

[gentle bear]

Saw that

[swift stag]

whole chat saw

[rigid barn]

:/

[spice cairn]

we saw that

[stark quiver]

LOL

[wide wolf]

u wish

[spice cairn]

F

[spice cairn]

L

[neat kiln]

What was seen

[wide wolf]

horrors

[neat kiln]

I didnt see it I was typing

[spice cairn]

F in the chat for that rick roll

[gentle bear]

Atrocities

[neat kiln]

I feel left out

[swift stag]

i too feel left out

[stark quiver]

Autoembed did me dirty

[swift stag]

but sometimes you gotta start feeling right out

[spice cairn]

[stark quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-painting-minecraft-skull-skull-spinning-skull-gif-47236402586218203

v2

[neat kiln]

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-peek-a-boo-i-see-you-cute-cute-shark-gif-3730501092415059054

[neat kiln]

Shork

[spice cairn]

[swift stag]

my pcs ram is running at 3600 mhz

and thats ddr5

[spice cairn]

ye

[wide wolf]

world record slowest ddr5

[brittle moon]

FP VOD is up!https://floatplane.com/post/7o9qAjyMow

[spark pier]

where's the show? suddenly unavailable

[swift stag]

jedec momment

[stark quiver]

I kinda want to see 3600Mhz DDR5 benchmarked against 3600Mhz DDR4, Intel 13th gen supports both

[spice cairn]

i don't trust it

[swift stag]

im on AM5 so this cannot be done

[gentle bear]

It will be back, Dan’s working on it

[stark quiver]

Actaul VOD link but it's private - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnVUXC9Fou4

[gentle bear]

Accidentally privated

[brittle moon]

its from #floatplane-releases

[spark pier]

Thanks

[neat kiln]

Ready to not watch the show until I can listen while at work monday lol

[wide wolf]

idk whats going on, but if it was as simple as just unprivating I'd assume it wouldnt take 20 mins

but still private sadge

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-scream-gif-19526247

[neat kiln]

I was just surprised to open my sub feed and not see it there

[spice cairn]

WAN show viewers right now ^

[stark quiver]

I'm guessing Linus put the hammer down and wants a bleep on "you can't make this shit up"

We had an unbleeped swear this week

[neat kiln]

So, is there something in the vod they wanted edited out?
Did linus leak his credit card details again?

[gentle bear]

Complete guess out of left field because I honestly have no idea, but maybe it needs to fully finish processing, or some other process needs to finish from the stream ending before that change can be made if it’s not already set to public before the stream starts

[swift stag]

who bleeps during the wan show

[wide wolf]

whoops, said my full social security whoopsy daisy

[spice cairn]

i don't think "shit" is that bad to privet an entire vod

[stark quiver]

So whys it private? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnVUXC9Fou4

[brittle moon]

even when they leaked a contact's email and phone number, they didnt private the vod lol

[spice cairn]

lol

[tender yarrow]

I assume the worst and hope for the best lol

[stark quiver]

rushed to get upstairs for superchex and didn't notice until after? lol

Does Twitter/Facebook do autovod?

[spice cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/939718838839308303/1226075846977130526/1HO7ZHJVNTRBDJLWLJ20.gif

[gentle bear]

Dan’s reaction definitely makes it sound accidental

[stark quiver]

I mean when they leaked the contacts number

[neat kiln]

Ah

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/takane-lui-hacker-man-hacking-typing-fast-speed-gif-26238356

dan right now^

[fading swift]

im glad to hear it was just privated i just got home from work and thought that WAN show didnt happen at all

[rugged panther]

what i am supposed to do in Saturday's morning without wan show? touch the grass?

[neat kiln]

Eat grass

[spice cairn]

yeah no it hasn't yet

were talking about another thing

[wide wolf]

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/up-is-not-jump-damn-damn-you-damn-you-grass-damn-you-sun-gif-15071462

[neat kiln]

Sorry.
ass

[spice cairn]

ah yes

touch as and eat grass

[neat kiln]

💯

[spice cairn]

wellp anyways im a bit eepy

gn

[wide wolf]

@DLL where content

[zealous spire]

? where wan show

where techlinked

[brittle moon]

dan is working on it

[wide wolf]

went private randomly after like 40-60mins of wan, we all waiting

[tender yarrow]

Im just here to watch the drama

And also i wanna see wan!

[warped forge]

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1rmxPMmMEgqKN

[tender yarrow]

my chrome does not like Twitter for some reason

[neat kiln]

I dont have twitter so

Can't even look at anything on it

Very healthy

[brittle moon]

probably twitter barely existing anymore

twitter actually sucks to use now

[tender yarrow]

Yeah i only use it when im tryign to like, follow something thats actively happening

But thats it xD

[wide wolf]

massive shoutout, i dont have fp/fb and its down on yt/twitch right now

[tender yarrow]

Yeah that link workss!

[warped forge]

ow my ears

[neat kiln]

Theres lots of art I see on discord thats linked to a Twitter. But can't see the twitter version which is annoying.
Oh well

[brittle moon]

the fp vod is broken too

[tulip hatch]

Don't think it's up on Facebook either tbf

[shell shoal]

Ty for twitter link!

Turns out i was only a few minutes behind 😂 been waiting this entire time for 2 minutes of more LTT. Worth it

[tiny mauve]

get on a car with titanium skid blocks and set the grass on fire by driving over the kerbs with the ride height real low

[stark quiver]

So, we got permission to comment confirmed bingo squares on the VOD, since there is no VOD I'm going to put them here.
Just delete this and give me a bot warning if not ok

||🕒 0:00:00 Show is late
🕒 0:00:00 Linus: 'We've got a great show for you today!'
🕒 0:00:43 Luke struggles to pick a topic
🕒 0:01:00 Linus, Luke or Dan make terrible joke/pun
🕒 0:01:20 Talking over Audio
🕒 0:02:56 Anyone but DLL turn up on set
🕒 0:04:24 Mispronunciation of a word/phrase
🕒 0:23:03 Linus doesn't censor while swearing
🕒 0:25:48 LTT Water Bottle drank from
🕒 0:41:12 Luke laughs uncomfortably loud
🕒 1:04:24 Motion-Sickness Camera
🕒 1:11:11 Mentions another creator
🕒 1:11:13 Luke talks about AI
🕒 1:14:46 Trust me Bro
🕒 1:20:12 Linus Was Wrong
🕒 1:25:31 Linus ignores Luke to change the topic
🕒 1:25:51 Linus eats/drinks something
🕒 1:28:04 Floatplane / Labs Preview!
🕒 1:28:28 Dennis overboard sponsorspot
🕒 1:28:52 Sponsored by SquareSpace!
🕒 1:33:04 Linus calls someone live on the show
🕒 1:34:24 The microphone gets hit
🕒 1:38:26 Linus talks about an upcoming product/video
🕒 1:39:33 Linus turns off Dan
🕒 1:39:34 Dan ignores Linus
🕒 1:40:52 Screenshare has No Audio
🕒 1:57:39 LTT Store Plug
🕒 1:57:44 New merch launch
🕒 2:06:15 "Where was I going with this?"
🕒 2:16:21 Linus Roasts a Company
🕒 2:23:27 Linus complains about YouTube
🕒 2:23:27 Google News!
🕒 2:31:13 Videogame Topic
🕒 2:37:46 Dan tries to talk but is muted
🕒 2:37:51 Someone messes with the set
🕒 2:38:01 "Hit me Dan"
🕒 2:43:50 Linus hates on Twitch Chat
🕒 2:53:26 Luke talks about movies
🕒 2:54:35 Linus Facepalms
🕒 2:57:06 Luke doing a concern ||

ah crap I thought it'd burry it as 1 line, sorry

I'll drop this to make up for it

https://youtu.be/ODwcUWXB708?si=AWQ0L72FqMwvUWkh

[tender yarrow]

I was about to say "thats a really good AI generation" because i didnt think Linus would do this xD Then he mimicked a gorilla in palce of guerilla and it is in fact Linus :3

[stark quiver]

An absolute masterpiece

[tiny mauve]

who'da thunk twitter would be the one to save the day...

[brittle moon]

ikr... even if it is broken and stupid

[tender yarrow]

Elon Musk rn "SEE IT WAS PLANNED!"

[wary dew]

Why no vod?

[brittle moon]

we dont know why, but dan is aware and apparently working on it

[tulip hatch]

I remember when Elon Musk took over the whole LTT channel

[tender yarrow]

He's a talented fellow

[wary dew]

Oh, no one canceled or something then

[tender yarrow]

The twitter livestream is what im watching from atm, but YT and Twitch are down

[tiny mauve]

vod did get cancelled

[stark quiver]

rip

[tiny mauve]

it's been downloading around that speed for the past half hour...

they can't even manage to save the day right...

[tender yarrow]

Im just straight watching it until i go to bed ;3

Hopefully itll be good by morning

[stark quiver]

Based

[tender yarrow]

That stream was phenominal

[tiny mauve]

I'm only downloading because apparently you can't watch it without logging in

[stark quiver]

Did they reupload the entire build you stream to Facebook, or did they take down the WAN stream? hmmm

I have no idea if FB does autovod lol

[glossy apex]

You know when the stream ended?

[brittle moon]

it ended at 8:58 PM their time

[chilly cloud]

I missed the show but saw the title of "youtubers killing companies" (or something), and I was interested in knowing what happened. Was this related to mkbhd? (i dont watch mkbhd either, but heard some stuff being thrown around)

[brittle moon]

yeah it was

the title was "Why Do Youtubers Keep Destroying Companies"
and the thumbnail:

[chilly cloud]

Figured as such. I assume they defended him? Still interested in watching, hopefully the vod comes up

[brittle moon]

yeah

[chilly cloud]

Nice

[velvet cloak]

any reason why the wan show went private?

[dire sinew]

ok looks like vod is back up

[velvet cloak]

I didn't see it. Let me double check

[dire sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnVUXC9Fou4

[velvet cloak]

Musta came back when I got here 😄

[brittle moon]

rumor is that they leaked something they shouldnt have

[chilly cloud]

👀

[velvet cloak]

I had to rewind. So I was in maybe 20~30 minutes in and poof

[halcyon latch]

19 seconds missing somewhere between the 𝕩 and new youtube version

[velvet cloak]

But did the show actually finish before they 🪓 it?

[brittle moon]

yes

[velvet cloak]

Hmm. Someone will find what happened now that the YouTube version is back out.
Not that it mattered to me.

I liked the interview part

[vague birch]

Apparently it was trimmed about 10 seconds, no idea what was trimmed at this moment

[stoic narwhal]

while going through to find out where exactly i was in the vid the "f*** around and find out" line from Jim Keller has not been censored.

[zealous spire]

on god

linus resisting the urge to get rid of his privacy challenge (impossible)

[iron rune]

I want more guest episodes, Dave's Garage next plz

[real siren]

Wouldn't you rather Steve from GN?

[frozen agate]

I think that bridge burned about 8 months ago

[real siren]

Oh, most definitely.

[spice oak]

yes, that could be why GN wasn't at LTX 2023

[short fog]

I saw the bit cut from the steam family share section. I didn't think there was anything to worry about there.

[short fog]

I just worked out what they cut. He was talking about playing Dave the diver on two seperate computers. Weird that is what they cut.

[maiden shadow]

You probably shouldn’t reveal that I assume it was cut for a reason

[spice cairn]

so what happened to the WAN show vod?

is it back up yet?

[elfin cloud]

yeah its back up. 20 seconds got cut.

[spice cairn]

[spice cairn]

did he doxx someone is that why?

[tender yarrow]

Yeah I still have the original Twitter vod, there's a good reason it was cut

Which is very surprising seeing how Linus is incredibly vigilant on keeping personal matters private

[graceful swan]

It would be a good idea to continue the transparency theme, whenever someone goofs and they have to cut part of the show, just add to the description "A brief section was clipped for privacy reasons" so there isn't a big mystery as to why.

[brittle moon]

Would be cool, but there is the issue of timeliness 😄

[graceful swan]

sometimes I accidently skip an ad spot, but rewind when it's Dennis.

[brittle moon]

yeah dennis ad spots are almost always funny

[tender yarrow]

Yeah I always skip the ads unless its something new and saw Dennis so I also went back lol

[spice oak]

the number of down votes on this video is 4x the upvotes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ohi1iYP5k 32k vs 133k

[odd grail]

Yikes, though it’s worth mentioning that dislike-returning extensions are not very accurate. They do a lot of guesstimating, and tend to skew heavily negative.

[cloud thicket]

Did they end up talking about this?

[spice oak]

Didn't get a chance to watch yet.

[neat kiln]

Yeah. They tend to skew negative, because the people who use them are more likely to vote negative due to it actually having an effect.

[cloud thicket]

They talked about it! Like they're takes

[dire shale]

I Watched it live and I don't recall anything happening that would justify taking the vod down

Linus might have accidentally said one of his kid's names i think but I don't really remember

Either that or some out of pocket thing their guest said. Or some stance on Pirating movies/games

[graceful swan]

did they add beeps to Jims cursing?

[tiny nimbus]

Not on the YouTube VOD I watched

[restive rain]

woudln't the actual number be higher? if everyone who presses it with the extention dislikes and people who dont use the extention dislike that would = more then the people who use the extention and dislike. Or do those extentions "inflate" the numbers by guessing if X people disliked with the extention there is probably another Y amount of people who also disliked, aka its not just the raw number of those who disliked with the ext?

[odd grail]

They inflate the numbers with guesswork, correct.

[restive rain]

interesting, good to know

[vocal cave]

prob not

[dusty wadi]

so what’s stopping someone from from subbing to The watcher, downloading everything and uploading it to say watchingforfreeMMDDYY.com so even if they can strike down individual websites retroactively it changes every day or whatever

[woeful crescent]

Technically nothing.. same thing that stopped people from doing that on floatplane.. lot of effort and its rare you find people who have it in them..

[spice oak]

I wonder if EK also effected LTT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b73xG1HlFhY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8tXka6Lsg&pp=ygUGZWsgamF5

[static arch]

I doubt it, possibly future or recent videos but typically deals are made and paid in advance. That is a matter for conjecture.

[spice oak]

Jay also was supposed to be paid in advance, but hasn't been yet this year.

[cursive tiger]

or last year

[woeful crescent]

Wonder when the last time LTT had EK as a sponsor (vs just then happening to use their products).. cause Linus has mentioned on WAN before about brands that haven't paid up..

[neat kiln]

Listening to wan now.
I will say I dont appreciate the take that Keller has that nobody will want to play games from today because games in the future will be much better.

If the future continues to move towards games as service i won't take part in any games from that point.

[strong tide]

i dont think thats what he said tho

he also said that if we wanted to play a game that doesnt exist, there will be videos of said games and we can train an AI to just simulate it exactly as it was, without the underlying hardware, software, or anything from the original

@neat kiln

he did say that "nobody will want to play games from today", but he also added onto it with the above

not agreeing or disagreeing, just wanted to point out his point wasnt done after "nobody will want to play games from today"

maybe what he meant was that no body will want to preserve everything cause we dont have to and there are some stuff we just cant preserve

[neat kiln]

I also do think he's a bit "optimistic" about where we'll be in 10 years.
He also mentioned something about playing games from he 1980s based off of an old youtube video.
That doesn't encompass the many games from the past 10-15 years in which one vido or even many don't show a ton of content that these games have

[strong tide]

yeah i think he's optimistic as well. but he has an agenda lol. hes smart and everything, but he is a CEO of an AI company

[neat kiln]

"no body will want to preserve everything cause we dont have to and there are some stuff we just cant preserve"
That may be even worse if that's what was meant

[strong tide]

is this ur first time on the internet?

lol

he wants us to have as much eggs in AI cause all his eggs are in it rn

but maybe he wasnt capping, who knows

[strong tide]

yeah ik. idk what he meant so i guessed

cause he literally contradicted himself

he said "nobody will want to play games from today", but then he also presented a way how to do it. how to play old games

[neat kiln]

I'll be near completely outside of AI. Until it can be realistically and completely locally controlled outside of needing to run on external servers I'm not interested. I've always had a drm free anti-"as a service" mindset when it comes to computing

[strong tide]

im curious. why?

[neat kiln]

Because I like to own my shit, and not rely on keeping up with paying a monthly fee to have access to it? Or relying on internet. Or being under the control of large companies that can take things away for no reason like ubisoft.

[strong tide]

same

[neat kiln]

Had enough things disappear now that I am a preservationist and data hoarder.
And I've a few things that I revisit that simply aren't available online now

[strong tide]

so for the old games stuff, what ur saying is that u would rather play the game, like the actual original source, than to play a perfectly AI simulated clone?

what if the actual source is gone?

or like whats going on with the crew 2

[neat kiln]

I'd have a lot of trouble even trusting that the "clone" is perfectly simulated. but even if it was, I wouldn't pay unless I could run it offline locally, and drm free.
I don't think I could play a perfectly simulated "clone" of something like the fallout games.

least not in my lifetime

[strong tide]

i mean, i cant see why it cant. all the wikis out there. all the forums. everything on the internet about the game. how it works. everything

in my lifetime, idk. but im going on about the perfect clone

[neat kiln]

Why's the source code matter? What I need is the actual built files to play. not the source.

[strong tide]

or not the source code. i just mean the files yeah

the binary files. the exe. whatever. its getting hard to actually pin point where the actual game exists when we are talking about what the game is

also im rly tired, sorry lol

[neat kiln]

You don't think the AI would hallucinate a million things with all the various Mods for various games?
Let's say you could only play minecraft with an AI.
How would it know what version to use. what assets. What videos are and aren't modded

these things can't be hand selected to create a large enough dataset

[strong tide]

thats true. i still think it could do it tho. if it hallucinates, just tell it to stop. there's prob going to be a community of people trying to simulate their fav game with AI

i could see it already lol

somewhere like this. where a few dozens of dedicated people who want to play a game that isnt available anymore

[neat kiln]

There's a few games that are gone. I think we should rather push for a future where things are preserved, rather that waiting and hoping that an AI will be able to run them.
Because when that happens, I'm imagining a million AI rules where companies step in and force it to refuse to make their Intellectual property. Meaning you couldn't even play a copy of mario because nintendo told the AI not to. Or you couldn't play an old gta properly because the tracks that were in it aren't allowed to be distributed via AI by the publisher.
I don't think AI at all will solve games preservation or be anything close

[strong tide]

oh yeah. god i cant wait to see how that plays out lol

[neat kiln]

Or the AI can't generate explicit or horrific content that was in some games because the company running the AI says "no"

[strong tide]

i would like the future of preservation as well. but its not happening so

there will be models in the gray areas of the internet where its made just to simulate games. ik im playing around with that immediately when its available lol

[woeful crescent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FFRmGJ2Bz8

[gloomy marsh]

Has anyone tried the read-out-loud function of Chat GPT 4? I was thinking it was going to talk like a normal AI voice but its not. It simulates someone actually talking with their voice changes as they read and get towards the end and it takes a simulated breath like a real speaker would. I didn't know their AI voice was so advanced for what it is which is simply to read out the text it prints. Kinda cool but also creepy asf.

[tall ferry]

when is the next show?

[frozen agate]

I wonder when the next episode of a show that is streamed once per week live on a friday night could be 👀

[tiny nimbus]

Famous questions to which the answer is: late

[limber jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-a-wizard-is-never-later-gif-11324448

[prisma needle]

After the last few wan shows, I realized most people haven’t actually read the enshittification article. Here it is: https://pluralistic.net/2024/01/30/go-nuts-meine-kerle/#ich-bin-ein-bratapfel

The point isn’t that we should be getting things for cheaper. The point is that we’re getting them for too cheap, the person making the things we get isn’t getting paid fairly, and the middle man takes whatever profits were there.

[cursive tiger]

it happens some time between 5:30 and 7:30 pst

most fridays

[primal maple]

its supposed to be a 5pm show?

i always thought it was a 7pm show

[cursive tiger]

it's meant to be 4:30

but it never is

[graceful swan]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/23/24138475/framework-laptop-product-categories-new

"So if you did want to sleuth out what Framework’s cooking next, you might want to take a look at the web of relationships that the company’s building because there’s an explicit hint about that in its press release: “We’ve had a number of early partnership discussions with other startups in our investors’ portfolios,” one line reads."

FRAME.WORK NAS ???

[cursive tiger]

they're gonna make framework case fans and cpu coolers !!!11!11!11!111!!!

[graceful swan]

If frame.work can build a NAS chassis with a backplane for drives, and a way to plug in your motherboard from an old laptop for the compute that would pair well with Linus's NAS software investment.

[elfin cloud]

last we heard afaik was that the devs were talking to the people who made... truenas i think. would be nice to get an update.

[glossy latch]

PLEASE MAINBOARD NAS

[graceful swan]

A carrier motherboard with network ports, 4-8 SATA, 2+ m.2, and a way to attach an old laptop logic board.

I think that NAS/server addition to the ecosystem would be a big selling point.

[tiny mauve]

Fuck apple's ecosystem. Framework/LMG ecosystem is the one I can get behind

[graceful swan]

apples eco system for storage was pretty cool time machine and the airports had usb drives for external hard drives, but the better comparison would be Synology.

Less "F the thing I don't like" and more "yeah! this is another option in the market" is way more positive

[heavy elk]

mr tech tips + framework > pear

if i had one

[worn river]

Wee bored so whats the best wan show to listen to of all time

[tiny nimbus]

I particularly enjoyed this one

[worn river]

Oh this ones good

[real siren]

I actually watched part of that episode the other day.

[spice oak]

interesting take here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7crR6HTzwE why doesn't Linus just disable superchats on youtube if he says every time that he will never read them?

[crude sandal]

He's answered that many times before.
Some people just want to throw money at the screen and don't care, so let them

[spice oak]

Some people who do that don't realize that. They're maybe a new subscriber and don't realize that Linus won't read them. So why hasn't Linus disabled superchats if they don't work for him?

If you read the superchats that have been submitted, they are expecting a response back.

I think this is something that should be addressed on wanshow this week 🙂

[graceful swan]

WAN topic: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24604348-da-bragg-letter-to-youtube-ceo-neal-mohan-ghost-guns-42424

[frozen agate]

it gets addressed at least once a month, it is as good a topic as "why is the sun setting" at this point

[gentle bear]

They’ve addressed it many times, it comes down to what Ethan said, if people want to do it, let them

They always say during the stream not to do it

[frozen agate]

literally every show

it is part of the "what are merch messages" talk

[spice oak]

you keep repeating your point without answering the question, why doesn't Linus just disable superchats?

instead of having to mention every single live stream to not send superchats

if you've ever read some of the superchats, you would know that those who sent it, didn't know the superchat they just sent, would be ignored. So why keep them enabled?

[graceful swan]

because it's free money. they run a business. money pays salaries.

If people want to throw money at them, they are like "Ok whatever, your choice"

[spice oak]

You're dodging the question again. Some of the superchats sent are not by those who know they will be ignored. They think that Linus will respond to them. It's immoral.

[frozen agate]

They literally just answered the question, how is that dodging the question?

That is a decision for the business team, not Linus

[graceful swan]

there is no moral obligation with super chats

If you don't like it, don't watch, don't comment on the forums, and don't chat in discord. Because if it bothers you, there is the OPTION for you to find a community and creator that shares your moral values or is willing to bend to your demands. Or you can make it your mission to protect other people who would be hurt by the moral injury of unseen superchats to unsuspecting viewers and can watch every live stream and comment first "THEY DON'T READ SUPERCHATS SAVE YOUR MONEY" That would be a great service to the community, rather than this complain... which I assure you is not original or the first

[graceful swan]

That is BS. Linus and the business team should have consulted @spice oak before they made that decision

[frozen agate]

true, true

[spice oak]

And when you can't win an argument, tell the person to go elsewhere.

[frozen agate]

I think you may have misunderstood, there was no argument, you asked a question, and were given several answers

including one which had a suggestion that if you didnt like the way things are, then you could always go elsewhere instead of hunting for drama

[spice oak]

And your answer doesn't cover if the person sending the superchat is new, and doesn't realize that Linus will not respond to them.

[frozen agate]

if someone is new, they shouldnt be sending a super chat in the first place

[spice oak]

why?

[frozen agate]

do you go and throw money at every person you meet in the streets?

I doubt it

so why would you do it online?

[spice oak]

other youtubers have superchats and do respond to them

so it's expected

that's an invalid comparison

online you are viewing a stream, there is superchats, and typically with superchats, the person doing the live stream responds to them.

they're not labeled as a donation

[frozen agate]

no, it isn't expected, that is merely a false expectation on behalf of the naive

anyway, I do not have time to argue with someone who is out to hunt drama, so, feel free to keep fishing, but I'm muting the chat now so I don't have to see it

[spice oak]

have a good night 🙂

[devout coral]

If i had to spend $1 to speak to everyone, i would pay to speak to someone i was interested in talking to, yes.

[graceful swan]

if you want to continue the conversation, you will have to send me a donation.

Some creators also respond to regular chats, but there is no moral obligation to respond to them all. Nor does the financial contribution of a super chat entitle you to anything. It is a donation.

And I am not telling you to go elsewhere, merely let you know the internet is big and full of different communities and that life is best when you find the right community for you. I also gave you a way to save others in the community from the problem you have, but that was dismissed.

So if you don't want to find a better community, or contribute to this one, you just want to complain until you get your way?

[spice oak]

Nope. Just bringing up a point that was made on why superchats should be disabled.

And apparently the middle finger emoticon is not allowed on here, my apologies.

[real siren]

It works for me. 😆

[spice oak]

hmm it was removed as soon as I tried to use it 😄

[real siren]

That's interesting.

[spice oak]

oh they might have muted me lol

[graceful swan]

it's immoral to give people the middle finger online.

[spice oak]

I detect sarcasm now

[gentle bear]

Nobody’s entitled to a response anyway, whether they pay money or not

[tiny mauve]

It may be worth mentioning that before merch messages they wouldn't always manage to get to all YT superchats (even if you only take into account the ones that were still in the dashboard and hadn't just disappeared because YT reasons), now at least those throwing money at the screen can get something in return if they don't get to your question.

Also, kinda off-topic, YT live chat is actual trash, why would anyone use that? Load up the YT livestream, because it's pausable and therefore superior even if the quality is 💩, and F off to Twitch (if you're a normie, like me) or FP chat, then you won't see superchats and therefore they'll no longer exist

[prisma needle]

I mean, there are thousands of people who throw money at YouTubers and Twitch streamers through Bits and Superchats every day, and thousands of messages are ignored. This is no different, except Linus draws attention to the fact that there's a better alternative, and NOW people are mad.

Making the world a better place just backfires so often.

[spice oak]

So for those who are thinking that Linus will respond to a superchat, turn them off. That's the moral and right thing to do.

No need to remind people every single time that they won't respond. It's much easier.

[graceful swan]

Send me $100. It is the moral and right thing to do. (someone on the internet said it was the right thing to do, so you gotta if you want to be a good person)

[graceful swan]

There is no need to continue this conversation, because your opinion has been heard, considered, and there was no change required by LTT.

[spice oak]

Not in this context. I look forward to wanshow if they come up with this topic.

[restive rain]

you are continuing this?

can you please try to drama farm somewhere else

im sure there are worse problems to complain about

[restive rain]

they wont bring up this topic

maybe iny our dreams

[spice oak]

ah yes, claiming it's drama instead addressing the moral issue. Another way to deflect something.

[graceful swan]

again, I find your conduct here a moral issue. But you don't seem to care. Only enforcing YOUR morals on others. not very cool.

[restive rain]

if you dont like the morals, you can go be all moraly right on someone elses stream. Its not the end of the world that someone is leaving donations open where they won't be looked at. No one is going to die, nothing is going to blow up. At the end of the day its not that big of a deal.

[rare tartan]

There’s no moral issue here because there’s no guarantee they’ll respond to your message. Merch messages exist because super chats are bugged and don’t always show up in the dashboard.

Not all hills are worth dying on. The sooner you learn that, the better off you’ll be.

[spice oak]

Then I guess we have different morals.

[tiny mauve]

You have a broken set of moral principles if turning off superchats is part of it.

[keen bloom]

How is anything that people volunteer their money to immoral?

[tiny mauve]

btw, this is the super chat info section

nothing there says to the person buying "the creator** WILL** see your message"

[spice oak]

Do you read the terms and conditions of everything before you buy it?

[tiny mauve]

only the summary https://tosdr.org

[spice oak]

not everyone does that

most people don't do that

[restive rain]

what does reading terms and conditions got to do with supper chats

also weather you read it or not they still apply lol

[spice oak]

Scroll up to understand.

[cursive tiger]

he does explain it every wan show

also the whole problem with super chats in the first place was that youtube's buggy dashboard thing wouldn't even show them

there was a fairly recent show where someone spent i think it was $50 on a superchat and it didn't show up in the dashboard, a bunch of people pointed it out in floatplane chat

[spice oak]

Correct. So if they don't show for him, for those who are new, that send a superchat before Linus can explain not to send superchats, why not just disable superchats?

It would save the money of those who are new trying to send a superchat.

[gentle bear]

That’s such a bad take. Ignorance of what you’re agreeing to doesn’t absolve you of responsibility for knowing the rules before interacting with a service

[dry crater]

Found that they are making a even bigger TV

https://www.notebookcheck.net/TCL-X11H-Max-First-video-showcase-of-the-gigantic-micro-LED-TV-with-163-inches-and-10-000-nits.830985.0.html

[gentle bear]

Wow, nearly twice the size of the one that practically takes up half the living room in my Dad’s house

[dry crater]

102,000 thousand eros

Euros*

Crazy

[gentle bear]

I don’t think I’ll ever afford one in my lifetime

Amazing to see it though, TV tech just gets crazier and crazier

[dry crater]

Yes bigger and brighter

[spice oak]

Consumers blindly agreeing to terms of service because they would take hours to read, has been like that for over 30 years.

[gentle bear]

If you’re going to spend your hard earned money, you should probably be doing your research first, and any failure to do so is on you

I’m going to stop engaging this at this point too, I think the point has been well made that so far not a single person in here has agreed with you, you’re obviously entitled to your opinion, but the evidence is out there overwhelmingly supporting that LMG and Linus are not evil, and are good to their fanbase. Not everything they do will be agreeable to everyone, that’s just a given, but come on, they have an extremely good track record of doing the right thing for the community.

[spice oak]

I never said Linus was evil. I just find that particular business practice to be immoral.

[crude sandal]

when spending money, yeah.
if you don't read shit when money is involved, that's a major you problem.

[spice oak]

Sorry, but you're lying. There's no way you read every terms of service and Eula out there.

[crude sandal]

you're a clown

"I don't read important things when spending money, so anyone that says they do is a liar"

[spice oak]

Name calling doesn't help you.

[crude sandal]

if you don't want to be called a clown, don't be a clown

[elfin cloud]

just block him. most here do. for some reason the mods just condone this rude person.

[crude sandal]

there's only a few of you that dislike me, coincidentally you're all similar

[frozen agate]

God, I'm glad I muted this chat, it's still going on? Consider me disappointed in your lack of ability to hear out the points made by others, someone ping me when it's over lmao

[crude sandal]

they've been told the exact reason why multiple times now lol

nothing they say will change that, and yet they continue to be a clown

[frozen agate]

They've dragged this on for a while day nearly, I literally gave them a reason yesterday morning

[crude sandal]

this is not the first time either

and other times on other topics too

[restive rain]

some people are bent on only thier way being the true way, and no matter what anything else anyone says they will never change thier mind

[real siren]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-let-it-go-disney-disney-princess-elsa-gif-3597313

[spice oak]

that was fun today 🙂

[tiny nimbus]

Linus directly addressed the non-sensical backlash to superchats back in December (timestamp link)

Tried to quote the relevant part here but got warshipped for using 26 (?) “unicode/emoji”

Linus did say “I can’t stop them” when it’s technically feasible to turn superchats off, but he also called out specific superchats in the past while highlighting how broken YouTube’s dashboard still is, and at some point in the past turned superchats off only for some people to get mad at him for not allowing them to “throw money at the screen”

[tiny nimbus]

“There isn’t a solution to superchats” (timestamp link)

[woeful crescent]

Can't please everyone, so he's gonna stick with the option that "If you wanna send me monies, so be it." and can't find real fault with that..

[gentle bear]

It’s WAN Show day!!

Week flew by for me

[tiny nimbus]

Same, not least because I spent most of the past week listening to a top 1000 countdown 😂

[glossy latch]

God I hope Luke gets to talk about the Unheard edition of Escape from Tarkov and how the devs are directly lying, gaslighting, and intentionally changing the features of other versions of the game to remove features promised with purchase.

not only that, but they're also "geniusly" attacking a direct competitor in their own genre as the entire community is upset at them and leaving Tarkov.

[tiny nimbus]

Didn’t think Luke was keeping up with Tarkov news nearly as much these days

[glossy latch]

Right, but this is pretty huge in the gaming space in general. Overwatch 2 did something similar with the promise of PvE

Microsoft also opensourced MS-DOS 4.0 https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/opensource/2024/04/25/open-sourcing-ms-dos-4-0/ Which is cool and all

[tiny nimbus]

Nintendo did another Nintendo

[sweet marlin]

yup im hoping they call BSG out

[main falcon]

It would be cool if we could get a topics preview for WAN Show for FP subscribers

[tardy pagoda]

I still think they will be late to the scheduled time.

[tiny nimbus]

[empty socket]

12 hour wan lets goooooo

[neat kiln]

A record wan?

[elfin cloud]

wonder why. either way it will be 10pm instead of 3 am for me so I'm down

[frozen agate]

https://tenor.com/bkr40.gif

[maiden shadow]

Guess they want to finish the day early? Maybe one of them has somewhere to be

[brittle moon]

i would guess the latter

maybe they cant afford dan's overtime anymore /j

[elfin cloud]

yeah probably. or special guest again

[frozen agate]

wait

what if it is a NAS launch...

[brittle moon]

that would be cool, but more likely someone has a plane to catch or something lol

wan is at <t:1714161600:t> today (that converts to your timezone)

[rare tartan]

How dare they. I’m gonna be upset for FIVE WHOLE MINUTES and then move on with my day.

Siri, set a timer for five minutes.

[frozen agate]

Careful, that sounds like something a green person would say...

[tiny nimbus]

Love the line “so when they start after 1pm, it will still be counted as late” 😂

[brittle moon]

😄

I originally wrote "if" but when reading it back, i realized theyre almost certainly still going to start after 1

[sleek vessel]

Well atleast it’s gonna be before normal time then

We hope

[brittle moon]

well, the "normal time" is like <t:1714181400:t>, so hopefully itll be before that lol

[tiny nimbus]

The music podcast I’m listening to ends in almost exactly half an hour so will be interesting to see if there’s any pre-show overlap

[brittle moon]

knowing them, they probably wont start until 1:30 or 2 so

[main falcon]

I have a feeling they're kidding with the 2000z start time and will be 0230z same as usual

[brittle moon]

i dont think they would do that

[graceful swan]

did they say anything about guests?

[brittle moon]

no

my guess is that one of them has a plane to catch

[graceful swan]

yeah makes sense, but i thought they mentioned guests at one point and not just Jim Keller. That's another reason for the change of schedule

[brittle moon]

I don't remember them mentioning guests other than Jim Keller

happy late show!

[tiny nimbus]

I’ve started listening to the next music podcast

[graceful swan]

maybe its because of canuks game

[brittle moon]

i dont think any of them really care about sports

[graceful swan]

doesn't mean you don't take your kid to a playoffs game

[tired topaz]

my best guess is a plane to computex but thats still a bit away

[graceful swan]

thats in june

[tired topaz]

oh shit

damnit i thought june was next month

may apparently doesnt exist anymore

[tiny nimbus]

it may (soon)

[tired topaz]

[tiny nimbus]

Let the Whac-a-Mole commence https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/04/message-scraping-user-tracking-service-spy-pet-shut-down-by-discord/

[void heron]

whats the wan show link?

[tired topaz]

am i going insane or is wan show supposed to be today, 11 minutes ago?

[void heron]

whenplane?

[tiny nimbus]

https://whenwan.show

[void heron]

They gonna be 1 hour late

[brittle moon]

https://whenplane.com is the main one, but https://whenwan.show and https://when.show point to the same thing

[tiny nimbus]

The redirect is the one I remember 😂

[void heron]

still cracks me up: It usually actually starts between 1 and 3 hours late.

[tired topaz]

if i had to suggest something, itd be change it to say 1pm PST, since some peeps might take it as 1pm their time

still a fantastic website nonetheless

[brittle moon]

good idea

[void heron]

"we forgot to set our clocks ahead 1 hour"

[graceful swan]

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[tired topaz]

twitch title is updated