the-wan-show

[torpid shuttle]

The will have internal metrics. They will be able to tell if there was a sub increase when LTX merch was announced that equates to those lost.

[keen pivot]

Also curious as to what % were 5 vs 10$ subs.

[crude sandal]

a small portion could even be people realising they had a floatplane sub they weren't using. tends to happen a bit when something like this gets attention

[restive rain]

this will be quite interesting

[torpid shuttle]

Bound to be some overlap between GN and LTT subscribers and some may simply be more keen on the former.

[hardy obsidian]

because socialblade also only sees the same numbers that you see when checking LTTs youtube site. (which only updates in 100K steps when you have 15 million subs)

[balmy oriole]

I was a 5$, uped for 10 for LTX merch+vids.
Now I have cancelled sub remaining till 23rd, and still thinking what to do

This makes me fall into several categories together.
Also, since there is this policy with "remaining access" I wonder what will be the % of people that come back

[pine berry]

Tbh, I have the 3$ sub, but I am holding off and going to give them a chance to respond to everything once they finish their investigation

How they handle it will be where I decide

[balmy oriole]

I am basically doing the same with my time remaining on Floatplane

also just neede to finish a couple of vids from LTX*

[pine berry]

I don't expect results this month tbh. When something like this happened at my company it took almost a full quarter for the investigation which included interviews, and then a few weeks for the report

Ofc we are a much larger enterprise

I think the soonest I expect anything is maybe late next month

[restive rain]

i dont think people understand it will take a while, and they will continue to demand a statement the entire time the investigation is going on

[pine berry]

I think most people understand that... The mob on Reddit and Twitter not so much... But I am sure some famous person will do something stupid soon and distract them

[balmy oriole]

One of my previous employers reacted to similar scale of problems for 2 years. (from start to final results)
I expect to see some imidiate change in vids (tbh i never noticed these graphs that were the cause), and some more communication about the general feedback

[restive rain]

But I am sure some famous person will do something stupid soon and distract them
hopefully

[pine berry]

Just the completely braindead takes are maddening... There are people just straight up making shit up, and when you point out that was never said, they attack you

Hopefully we can get back to the fun content, LTT unfuck this stuff, and is a stronger and better company going forward

So, the show is happening tonight?

[graceful swan]

yes wan show tonight

[balmy oriole]

.

[graceful swan]

might even be on time!

[pine berry]

Man, I hope they have merch messages on... I want some of these people with bad takes to give them money to show on screen

I doubt it though

[restive rain]

There are people just straight up making shit up
there are also people twisting words and extroplating meaning from nothing, take for exmaple Emilys tweet where she said that she is pushing for internal change but didnt clarify what and people assumed it was related to maddison, when in fact she had to later clarify it was related to video production

[iron merlin]

Will the wan show happen today?

[restive rain]

new merch message
"you guys suck never watching or giving you money again"

[gaunt sapphire]

I swear people can't read

[restive rain]

yes

Labs Jake says WAN Show is happening this week

[pine berry]

Yeah, but no one mentions the second tweet... It is why when this kind of stuff happens, unless you have an experience you need to share, you should probably not say anything.

Idk, tonight gonna be interesting, but I suspect the entire show will be short and done in corpo

Wouldn't be surprised if it was at least partially scripted

[neat kiln]

I doubt this will be the case

[brisk star]

I canceled my Floatplane subscription because 1) not enough exclusive content and I was thinking about cancelling anyway 2) the billet labs thing seemed very mean to do 3) inaccurate data.

Billet lab thingo is going to be rectified and they supposedly will be working on better quality but still, not enough exclusive content, so meh, will leave it cancelled.

[neat kiln]

I think they'll briefly mention things, and then go on to topics.

The bullet labs thing was mainly a miscommunication, which they were already working on sorting out before GNs video as shown

[pine berry]

Gonna be honest... The billet labs thing, to me, seemed really like an obvious case of miscommunication and like a non issue. Unpopular take, but I looked at that companies products.... They are not gonna be around in 2 years, and it will have nothing to do with LTT

[neat kiln]

Linus likes speaking to the people. I doubt wan will be corporate. It might tiptoe,

[pine berry]

20$ for 2 hose fittings

The custom piping is the only compelling thing there

[neat kiln]

Not entirely sure about that

[brisk star]

yes, we are on the same page. but when i cancelled, i have just been watching the GN video. but since I was thinking about cancelling anyway, I'll stick to my decision.

[neat kiln]

It's a boutique. Only needs a few orders a month

[pine berry]

Oh, I am not trying to convince you :). You do you man

[brisk star]

sure, no worries, just explaining

[neat kiln]

I only recently bought a $10 subscription since I could still get some ltx merch. But I'll probably cancel it

[brisk star]

i can't get any merch anyway

[gray ingot]

WAN show in 11 hours? 😮

[brisk star]

wrong continent

[pine berry]

I wouldn't pay 10$ for it... I would pay 5

[neat kiln]

Actually don't have the money to throw $10 at a service every month

[pine berry]

Like there is no value there

[neat kiln]

The value was LTX merch lol

[pine berry]

YouTube premium is a great value tbh

[pine berry]

Fair lol

[gray ingot]

I wish WAN show was earlier or later so we could watch it in EU

[neat kiln]

Wanted me a dinosaur. And the tie-dye shirt looks decent

[pine berry]

Lol

Tonight will be pretty make or break, so hopefully they don't fuck it up

[neat kiln]

Linus. Avoid controversy tonight lmao

Or don't. It's spicy

[pine berry]

Should just give Luke a roll of duct tape

Ahhh I need to get out of bed

[neat kiln]

They'll avoid the Madison discussion, or if they say anything at all they'll say it's being investigated and they'll publish the results like they said before

[pine berry]

As they should

Until they know what they knew, it is best to say nothing about it

Let the investigation happen

[granite gorge]

Is there really a WAN show today? I thought they were halting all productions except the 24/7 tech tips live thinymabob

[pine berry]

Publish the results, tell us how you will prevent it in the future

[pine berry]

Sounds like it, but it isn't like WAN is a real produced thing

[gray ingot]

yes

[pine berry]

They could just have Linus and Luke with no producer or merch messages

[granite gorge]

True, but Linus is also taking a break to like, think about himself

And Luke would be "doing" stuff to "improve" LMG's workflow

[pine berry]

Meh, I think they are a big boy company now, and are having a big boy company learning experience

[granite gorge]

But all we can do is wait really to know

[pine berry]

I think it has very little to do with Linus now, and more to do with getting a grip on how to be a company

[granite gorge]

Yes very true

[pine berry]

This kind of crap happens all the time in companies... My company accidentally tossed a 12k demo unit from a major networking company

Any Time you get hundreds of people, crap happens. You just need processes, policies, and consistency

[granite gorge]

Yeah, and I think people being harsh isn't really right? Because these things happen and they're people, they make mistakes, and ther are working on it

[neat kiln]

Did Madison say Linus didn't know the extent of everything?
Just skimmed through the thread and couldn't find it

[pine berry]

She was very vague

Especially on people

[balmy oriole]

I read that as allegations that "all is connected and known"

but really no specifics

[granite gorge]

https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741?s=19

Madison | Suop (@suuuoppp)

To stop the speculation and DM's I am receiving.
I chose to quit my role at LTT because it, and the working environment I was facing, were ruining my mental health.

The number of daily items the Social media role at the time was expected to fill was incredibly high.

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There's more stuff on it

Idk if she's lying or not

So I'm not speculating

[pine berry]

I don't think she is lying, but a lot of stuff in there (not all) is hugely based on perspective

I remember when I was younger

[granite gorge]

Yes, right, but we don't know the other side's experience with her yet

[neat kiln]

She did say specifically some members of "upper management", while I doubt this would mean Linus himself, it would seem to me someone who is in videos.

[pine berry]

My manager told me I needed to act like a professional... It almost broke me

I had to grow up before I realized they were helping me

[neat kiln]

Honestly? The micromanaging perspective from her I can see. Linus has said himself how he would go over scripts with writers, and try to do things individually.

[clever plank]

other former employees have said it sounds accurate to what she said at the time

i can find the tweet

[brisk star]

THIS

[granite gorge]

I guess so

[balmy oriole]

All the stuff about workload is purely expectations, and whether you had them right

[clever plank]

but some of it is yea perspective

but thats the minor parts tbh

[neat kiln]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1691693740254228741.html

Just for people without twitter

[torpid shuttle]

My younger staff take more "mental health breaks" than my older staff. So, some of it is definitely perspective. However, I think it is still worth investigating since the accusation was levied.

[neat kiln]

There is a social media team rather than a single person now

[tiny condor]

So what's this channels thoughts... WAN Streak or delayed by 7 days? I wouldn't mind if it was just Linus and luke for 5 mins and then dan takes over with luke with the topics and no chat messages or mercy messages.

[brisk star]

they are larger now.

[granite gorge]

We don't know

[tiny condor]

Merch messages even

[clever plank]

i mean especially because of the s-word harassment

[novel cedar]

I think that’s the bigger thing

[clever plank]

if i was them i wouldnt bc anything they do now will be met with criticism

hello games learnt this lesson with no mans sky

[neat kiln]

The sectional harassment is some serious allegations that...
I can kind of believe...

[torpid shuttle]

Which is probably part of the problem. Much easier to keep tabs on 10 staff than 100.

[balmy oriole]

I'm talking about expectations in vacuum. There is a total possibility she expected to live a YT lifestyle and be chill, and was "shocked" by the real life. THe amount of work she described is concidered perfecvtly OK in my country for 1 person in social team.

[novel cedar]

They’re a small tech company, of course the workload will be hell on earth. That’s bad but it’s not a revelation

[clever plank]

but the s-word harassment

kind of the bigger deal

[tiny condor]

Yeah that's true, delayed by 7 days would be a new WAN show record

[neat kiln]

The managing the OF account though.

[novel cedar]

Yeah, s-word harassment could do a lot of damage

[clever plank]

that was kind of the worst for me

[tiny condor]

That's still technically social media.

[neat kiln]

I think making her manage the OF account alone could start as a starting point for sectional harassment claims

[brisk star]

depending on what her contract said, she should have insisted on not having to manage it or simply stop managing it.

[balmy oriole]

i agree. just wrote about 'amount of work' stuff

[torpid shuttle]

I don't think anyone is against LMG investigating the allegations. But it is still worth asking if the person making the accusations misread the room.

[balmy oriole]

that's OF account for April fools, right?

[clever plank]

misread the room by being asked how they copulated?

i dont think so friend

there's no good context for that

[restive rain]

thats what i assume

since they dont have any other OF

[brisk star]

she probably just didn't fit into the team, maybe some of the people there didn't like her for whatever reason and how they expressed that was not ok.

[clever plank]

yea but people are freaks

[neat kiln]

Yes. Which they managed until the end of the year. And according to her got quite an assortment of pictures sent to it

[pine berry]

So, I am at my computer now, but she was very non specific with a lot of the more serious accusations. I will wait on the investigation for all of that.

As for the workload issues: I think a lot of that can be explained simply by the fact they hired someone who wasn't qualified, because the community demanded it. That, to me, is the biggest issue from them from the workload and stuff like that standpoint.

[granite gorge]

It says it's happening today

[clever plank]

they said it was happening earlier

[granite gorge]

We might actually have wan show

[clever plank]

no we will

[granite gorge]

Oh

Alr

[granite gorge]

Alr alr

[tiny condor]

But will linus be there

[granite gorge]

Oh well

[pine berry]

We will see if it is a "WAN" show, or if it is just a corpo podcast with suits just off screen to pull the ethernet cable out of the streaming box

[neat kiln]

Linus needs to be there to keep the streak

That's part of it

[torpid shuttle]

There have been claims of S harassment that were the result of jokes that weren't intended to be serious. Still a definite problem to be resolved, but it is not assault. That's the reading the room. Did they take it differently than intended? That's what the investigation needs to find out.

[tiny condor]

But he could be there for 5 mins and the streak continues, they've said that before

[clever plank]

its not an appropriate joke for a work enviroment

like period

[torpid shuttle]

I am not disagreeing.

[neat kiln]

Some of her accusations were of being groped.

[gray ingot]

[granite gorge]

Bread.

[pine berry]

There is also the fact that many employees (herself included) made a lot of those jokes on camera. One of my fears from all of this is that we are gonna see LTT lose a lot of what makes them funny. Imagine they no longer do 69 jokes?

[torpid shuttle]

Yeah, those definitely need to be looked into and the offending person sacked... if true.

[gray ingot]

nice

[pine berry]

To be clear, she never said groped.

She specifically didn't say that

That has been how it has been interpretted, but she said "inappropriately grabbed" iirc

Which can be anything from groped, to someone pushed her

[restive rain]

thats all she said

[pine berry]

Either of those things are bad

[novel cedar]

Agreed

[pine berry]

but she did not say groped in her thread

So I wish people would quit putting that in her mouth.

[clever plank]

"inappropriately grabbed"

[clever plank]

agruing from semantics isnt the best when the connotation is clear

[pine berry]

That isn't semantics though

[neat kiln]

Did I imagine something? I thought I read it in the thread

[vital blaze]

her pinned message mentions nothing of that stuff either

[brisk star]

I am really sorry for being so prejudiced but I personally think, she was just a young snowflake. Investigation will tell, hopefully.

[pine berry]

Groped has a VERY specific meaning

[torpid shuttle]

FWIW, this is definitely one topic Linus should do nothing but read their official statement and then not talk about again.

[neat kiln]

Ah inappropriately touched. Yeah

[clever plank]

inappropriately grabbed

even

[pine berry]

I will edit my original comment, but even still, that is not the same as saying groped. While I do understand it is somewhat semantic.... one thing has a VERY specific meaning, and the other is way more vague and open for interpretation

[restive rain]

"lawyer up and shut up"

[clever plank]

its more than that

its not about being a snowflake, that is completely inappropriate in any professional enviroment

[novel cedar]

“A warning that came very shortly after I had come forward stating I had been inappropriately grabbed multiple times in the office, amongst other issues.”

[restive rain]

We will see what the investigation reveals.

no use dwelling on only half the story and making the other half up

[clever plank]

im not sure how they're gonna investigate, its like 2 years old

[pine berry]

Yeah, all of that points to at least some people within the company not being professionals, and even worse that the process for reporting it was either unclear, or completely ineffective

[novel cedar]

Agreed. That wouldn’t be appropriate in an 8 person company, let alone modern LMG

[restive rain]

Yea, I don't know either.

[pine berry]

So, let me help on that

[neat kiln]

Not sure if we know that Linus knew everything to the extent she claims.

[pine berry]

How they will investigate

[clever plank]

no but its possible

they did have a harassment meeting after she left

[neat kiln]

I can certainly see her thinking of the micromanagement aspect.

[pine berry]

So, we need to make 2 assumptions

[clever plank]

which people are saying "this is PROOF he knew"

[restive rain]

we don't know what anyone knew about anything during this time

[clever plank]

no she probably writ down as the reason on her 2 weeks

[pine berry]

1. That harassment meeting happened right after she left
2. That meeting happened because she said something to the 3rd party HR firm during her exit interview

[clever plank]

or that too yea

[pine berry]

If both those things are true

1. The HR firm immediately marked her file as "Do Not Delete" LMG would have been told to archive / preserve her e-mail inbox

2. When the glassdoor post was made, they would have done the same thing

So, there will be documentation

[neat kiln]

Yeah. I'm saying that while she was working there, Linus may not have known. Or may have. I don't want to believe he knew

[pine berry]

3. They will interview people, including her if she agrees

[novel cedar]

That isn’t required or even expected, giving a reason on paper

[restive rain]

we will see what the investigation reveals, they pledge to be transparent and show it

[torpid shuttle]

When I was much younger, I joked with a coworker on a regular basis. However, one day that coworker took offense to a joke I made. She never reported it up, but I apologized and simply stopped making those kind of jokes. Could be some of these guys didn't have that "wake up" moment.

[clever plank]

ah, i normally do it, but as ratknight said she probably had an exit interview

[pine berry]

Which is why I am willing to give them a chance to actually do that. If they do it, and respond well and make appropriate changes, I am willing to forgive

Especially with some of the shit I have seen in my jobs

I was a male in a female dominated place (mental health crisis unit)

[clever plank]

wonder if anyone is gonna get termed

[pine berry]

You wanna talk about S word harassment?

[restive rain]

im sure if they find wrongdoings

[pine berry]

I was in college at the time, and didn't know better / didn't mind the attention

but jfc

in hindsight

[brisk star]

depends on whether anyone really said that to her or whether she interpreted some bs into words.

[pine berry]

idk

We will see what the investigation says

[neat kiln]

I doubt there's a way we'll know exactly unless other witnesses come forward to say it did happen

[pine berry]

Right now, we have 1 side of the story, and the other side saying "we are looking into it"

[neat kiln]

Hard to prove a negative

[pine berry]

and the only person backing her up right now is someone confirming her story hasn't changed, which doesn't get us past the perspective issue

Even Emily's comments were, as it turns out, meant to point to the production issues

[visual marten]

I hope we do get a wan show.. I feel now it is more important than ever

[pine berry]

Yeah

[neat kiln]

We will

I think wan show will do better to break tension than a normal back to production video

[clever plank]

well to me that sounds like thats what she genuinley thinks happened

[visual marten]

Great.. though it happens in the middle of the night can i ask for it to be scheduled 4 hours later when i wake up.. that would be nice lol

[clever plank]

but they'll get down to the bottom of it

its probably gonna devolve into he-said-she-said though

[clever plank]

nah its not a great move unless its heavily scripted

and even then its not a great move

[torpid shuttle]

Don't expect this topic on WAN beyond reading a prepared statement.

[neat kiln]

Sarah did some stuff with her after she left. Max has been cryptic.

[clever plank]

if they let linus just talk live then he will pop off

[pine berry]

absolutely! All I am saying is that her story hasn't changed which adds credibility. It is not, however corroboration, which is generally what happens when these types of things start popping off: more and more people come forward, which we haven't really seen.

[neat kiln]

Linus knows how to control himself when there are stakes

[hard lintel]

https://twitter.com/heyMAKWA/status/1692291183572312301?t=wqtunxHFn1ISTUoI9-mZOQ&s=19

end-of-life cur (@heyMAKWA)

i'm not going to link any of them here, for a variety of reasons, but please be aware of what is probably the deadliest AI scam i've ever heard of:

plant and fungi foraging guide books. the authors are invented, their credentials are invented, and their species IDs will kill you

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[neat kiln]

He's still an adult

[clever plank]

he didnt when he made the forum post

[brisk star]

what does it mean if my text is red?

[pine berry]

because he didn't think it was that serious

[clever plank]

it didnt send

[pine berry]

and, tbh

I think it was a nothing burger in terms of the billet labs thing

[visual marten]

i never watch wan show live because im in the uk but i feel this one i need to see live because chat will probably be a bit crazy

[brisk star]

this

[clever plank]

i think it wasnt great what they did to billet labs but thats a simple process fix

[torpid shuttle]

Yeah, that is easily resolved and I fully believe the missent email. Do it all the time...

[clever plank]

he turned it into something

[visual marten]

Billet Labs is 90% of what i am frustrated about. I feel really bad for them

[torpid shuttle]

He's defensive of his team. Some were out and out saying they were stealing.

[clever plank]

well they kind of did

they agreed to return it and didnt

[torpid shuttle]

It's the intent. Was there an intent to steal or did the process fail. Based on the evidence, I'm more inclined to see the latter.

[neat kiln]

It's frustrating. But it's really miscommunication and they were handling it at the time. And it was 2 business days between communication with billet and when the video dropped

[pine berry]

Yep, I work in a 3k + person company. We lose shit monthly that is worth more then billet labs has ever sold... that isn't to say a prototype (which they apparently originally told LTT they could keep) wasn't important to them, but I can easily see how this all happened and how it can be at least mitigated going forward. No one in a real professional environment is looking at this and going "they are incompetent"... they are going "oh is that all that happened?"

[clever plank]

yea as a startup having your $2,500 (this number shouldnt be public) prototype sold off at open auction is pretty devistating

[neat kiln]

Remember. Originally, they never planned to get the prototype back

[clever plank]

especially when they wouldnt spend 500 dollars of their time to test it properly

[clever plank]

the problem with this argument is that LMG agreed to return it

[visual marten]

I mean this seems to be Billet Labs first endeavor to try create something people might like.. It needed a chance to show what it can do.. still does

[neat kiln]

Yes. But I'm speaking in terms of how devastating it is to the small startup

[visual marten]

I dont mind so much if they trashed a company with thousands of products though still bad at least they have other examples of what they do

[neat kiln]

A new review would be better

[clever plank]

well their thought process was that they'd get a decent review like "oh it works but its not really practical", the preorder sale is 900 dollars, so they'd get a ROI in like 4 sales

[pine berry]

absolutely, but once again, I can easily see how this mistake happened, and I can also say that they originally never intended to get it back

[torpid shuttle]

That's what I recall. Billet only got upset once word of it being auctioned reached them. Again, that goes back to the miscommunication problem LMG *does *need to resolve.

[pine berry]

Like, this isn't malice

it is a mistake

[worn cypress]

But that's more a cautionary tale to startups - sending your prototypes for evaluation to someone who's going to invest the time in evaluating... LTT wouldn't be my choice.

[clever plank]

yea but they didnt know that clearly

[restive rain]

Pretty sure it was only 2000

[pine berry]

It would be mine, if you want max exposure. This blow up is probably the best thing that has happened to them

[clever plank]

2000 Pounds, 2,500 dollars

[restive rain]

Ah gotcha

The bri’ish

[pine berry]

goddamit

peopel putting in tickets at work I actually need to pay attention to

[visual marten]

I feel like Billet Labs really only aim for a few niche sales too since it seems like its machined by hand

[restive rain]

lol go work smh, glhf

[inner holly]

Its absolutely stupid that a company making millions of dollars per year can't send out a block and a 3090ti without fucking just about everything up

[torpid shuttle]

Hell, I doubt Yvonne's joke about DBrand offering to sponsor the apology video was actually a joke. LMG could eat the cost of the prototype. I still think this was just simple miscommunication and not intended malice.

[neat kiln]

It's actually more likely

[clever plank]

yea thats why they didnt think they'd need it back, LTT would say "its niche and not practical but hey it works", instead they tested it wrong (apparently there's a 1mm gap from the dye to the cooler with the 4090) and said it doesnt work

[neat kiln]

More people = more chance for miscommunication.

At any company

[clever plank]

they dont have that many people on inventory

[inner holly]

Thats why you put more money and effort into stopping said miscommunication. Especially if your making THAT much money per year.

[neat kiln]

LTTs whole focus isn't centered around a single product

[torpid shuttle]

Right, but most people don't correct until they screw up.

[neat kiln]

There's a cost vs benefit

[clever plank]

there's realy only 4 people in logistics at lmg

[neat kiln]

How much it costs to make sure those processes in place vs how much inventory loss you see

[inner holly]

Fair point.

[visual marten]

yeah now i understand why they would want linus to keep it because one way or another they would know if there is interest in the product or not so eiter get investment to make more or abandon... now they dont know so need ti back for people who will actually review it

[clever plank]

pretty much

like all they would've needed was 3* preorder sales to recoup that investment

[brisk star]

they just yolo so much and sh*t just happens if you do that

[torpid shuttle]

But that is what makes their content engaging. Honestly, they need a Labs channel for the straight stuff.

[visual marten]

I really want to make a small form factor pc and something like that seems perfect but I would have no idea how to use it.. I am a bit afraid of watercooling anyway :D

[clever plank]

i mean i think its a matter of perspective when reviewing startups

[visual marten]

I blame LTT for my fear of watercooling.. they always seem to get water everywhere

[clever plank]

if LMG said "man this new AMD processor sucks", amd isnt going to go bankrupt (by testing it wrong)

[brisk star]

unyoloing will make them uninteresting to a certain degree

[clever plank]

but for things like billet labs, a terrible review done without propper testing where they say its bad is devistating

[torpid shuttle]

Right. They put what effectively a is car wash fan on a computer to air cool it. There is no real reason to do it other than yolo.

[neat kiln]

Curious if there's any chance they could do a proper video on the water block. They know where it is. They have the ability to get it back

[clever plank]

no they wont at this point

there's no real point

[inner holly]

they are never gonna touch that thing ever again

[hard lintel]

I wonder if GN will get one

[clever plank]

didnt billet also send them a 3090ti to test it with?

[clever plank]

thats what i was about to say

[neat kiln]

I mean. Content is content. In a new small form factor build.

[torpid shuttle]

Honestly, I could see them doing it to make the point they did screw up and are changing.

[inner holly]

yea and they didnt use it LOL

[restive rain]

Yes but they lost it

[clever plank]

how did they lose a 3090ti

[inner holly]

literally fucked up almost everything possible

[visual marten]

if you was a youtuber you would probably want to offer a lot more than what they paid for it at auction just to make a video

[clever plank]

im pretty sure even they said they dont have that many on hand

[restive rain]

God knows, it was probably pretty hectic inventory wise around that time

[hard lintel]

Dandori issue

[visual marten]

hell many would pay the auction winner just to borrow it

[torpid shuttle]

I say refund the winner, double your donation to the charity, do a comprehensive re-review, and then ship it back to Billet with a check for the value. They would more than make the money back on good graces that would create.

[novel cedar]

The video was great at explaining

That they know their shtick is yolo-ing

But CPU/GPU launch reviews can’t be like that

Because they need to be actual reviews for reference

And like it or not, no one was watching LTT for an honest and comprehensive review of the Billet Labs block

It was poorly done content

*executed

[visual marten]

i imagine Billet labs probably now have the opportunity to get a 4090 and create a prototype with that if LTT are really going to be paying up so that might work out better for them

[neat kiln]

Maybe Linus will go over some plans tonight.

[torpid shuttle]

He just needs to keep his cool when he does.

[tiny nimbus]

I’d love a recap of what the team’s been up to these past few days aside from what’s already been mentioned in the video

[neat kiln]

I'd love more dinosaur merch

[tiny nimbus]

Dinosaur+asteroid merch would be more fitting considering the week’s events

[neat kiln]

It is wild to think. That every week? They release a new product

I want an all over print T-shirt with pixelated dinosaurs

[pastel garden]

Haha

[neat kiln]

And I'll continue saying it because I think LTT could do great to the all over print market. Where there was only a single company I knew of that made really really good quality aop shirts.

But aside. Tonight's show will be very interesting. Just curious about their approach.

[pine berry]

I love the print quality on the LTT shirts I have

[hearty crag]

Same, their clothing quality is top-notch across the board

[brazen owl]

When does wan show start?

[teal sun]

i was just about to ask lol

[tiny nimbus]

<t:1692401400:t> local time

Usually later

[teal sun]

ugh isnt it usually today

[tiny nimbus]

Fridays 16:30 Vancouver time (GMT-7)

Which already crosses into Saturday once you hit European time zones

Follow along at https://whenplane.com

[strong pendant]

Love my Saturday afternoon WAN show in NZ

[chrome urchin]

I miss when it started at this time, it's been super late for a while

[strong pendant]

I think this one might actually be on time

Though late works better for me

[teal sun]

cant wait for the whining to start if theyre late

"why are you guys still fucking up"

[ember light]

https://tenor.com/view/colbert-popcorn-popcorn-stephen-colbert-eat-popcorn-popcorn2020-gif-16075618

WAN SHOW IN 3D WHEN?

[worn river]

I havent seen anyone talk about 3D in like 6 years lol

[runic wolf]

I assumed WAN would be affected by the shut down. Is it known that it’s happening today?

[restive rain]

statement about the meeting

[tiny nimbus]

Labs Jake says WAN Show is happening today

[graceful swan]

Is there going to be a WAN show tonight? I am unable to search or scroll to see if anyone has asked and answered this question yet!

[torpid shuttle]

Can't scroll up one comment?

[graceful swan]

What are jokes?

[restive rain]

its not a joke if no one is laughing

[graceful swan]

im laughing. Therefore it is a joke.

[restive rain]

🙄

[tiny nimbus]

You can tell when people’s AutoCorrect kicked in when they refer to CEO Terren as “Tehran”

[keen bloom]

There gonna be a WAN show tonight, anyone know?

[tiny nimbus]

No WAN Show, only bread

[brittle moon]

apparently
#public-chat message

[uneven cloak]

It might even start on time for once

[granite gorge]

If it would, I would be extremely disappointed and happy at the same time

[tiny nimbus]

Wonder what your thoughts are now, it’s been less than a week since they said your sub would be comped which made me smile

[granite gorge]

I always watch Wan show 20 minutes later

[neat kiln]

I'm in the GPD server. There were so many people coming in asking if there would be a deadzone fix for the win4, they renamed the channel "win_4_general-there_is_no_dead_zone_fix_yet"

Perhaps "the-wan-show_yes-its-happening-today" would be appropriate.

[robust owl]

Assuming of course that a non-commital, non-explicit arguably joke response from an employee unaffiliated with the operation of the WAN show is actually confirmation that it's happening lol

[tiny nimbus]

Only for today

[neat kiln]

Lmao

[eager pewter]

How are they gonna do a wanshow without talking about it lol

I hope they atleast address it somehwsy

[tiny nimbus]

No chat windows, Dan rejecting merch messages. Easy

[torpid shuttle]

The picture for the video should be Linus with duct tape over his mouth.

[eager pewter]

🤣

what are they gonna title it

[tiny nimbus]

The picture should be this_is_fine.gif

[torpid shuttle]

Title it "Streak continues... technically."

[native dove]

Just a 10 min stream of Luke waving his finger at Linus taped to a chair with ductape over his mouth saying "I told you"

[eager pewter]

*10hour

[tiny nimbus]

Reached the halfway point of the now 316-page thread

[spiral junco]

Honestly I think it’s possible to do WAN show tastefully (plus it really would be a shame to break the streak). If they dedicate a good amount of time to elaborating on Wednesday’s video and talking about what’s already been done to address the issues, then that’d be a good start. Obviously they can’t comment in any detail about Madison while it’s being investigated.

That all assumes Linus doesn’t decide to spew nonsense like in the forum thread again ofc

[smoky ridge]

the lack of comment about Madison will just end up annoying a different group of people

[native dove]

I think they just try to avoid it all together

[smoky ridge]

its lose lose

[spiral junco]

Yeah maybe

[tiny nimbus]

They’ve already issued a statement about the allegations so they will absolutely not be addressing it on WAN Show

[spiral junco]

Idk I feel like you could show empathy without making statements which affect the investigation, but yeah maybe that would leave people unsatisfied

[native dove]

No matter what they do people will be upset that means the best course of action would probably be not to dig a deeper hole which means don't talk about it

[spiral junco]

If they do decide to steam tonight, they sure as hell need to do it without merch messages

Otherwise they’re just monetising the uptick in viewership

[tiny nimbus]

It’ll be super-interesting if they turn off Merch Messages this week, but I don’t think they will

[robust owl]

There is no possible way a WAN show could make anything better. I seriously doubt they'll be having one.

[tiny nimbus]

Labs Jake says WAN Show is happening today regardless

[robust owl]

I'll referr you to my previous comment there #the-wan-show message

[spiral junco]

I’d totally understand if they skip this week

[eager pewter]

i mean its a direct response to a question

[tiny nimbus]

Never mind

Be nice if Dan could actually confirm though, remember when Bell would hang out in here back when he was producer?

[neat kiln]

I remember when we got told to stop taking pictures in pictures of the chat here lmao

[bronze skiff]

Wonder if they're going to have to moderate the chats more. Gonna be spicy.

[tiny nimbus]

They moderate the chats now?

[ionic fern]

They should miss it for this week

[midnight peak]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-those-gif-23546871

[harsh ore]

What if, instead of the normal WAN show it was a surprise new episode of Car Pool Critics + Luke? 😄

[keen bloom]

Wait, have they confirmed if the WAN show is happening?

[worn river]

dont get my hopes up man

[restive rain]

Yes

Read up like 10 messages

[keen bloom]

omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg

[sleek kayak]

RIP

[keen bloom]

what time will it be?

[worn river]

i really mis car pool critics

[sleek kayak]

no wan show this week

[restive rain]

Same time???

2!6 would it be different

[keen bloom]

No WAN show this week.

conflicting messages!!!

[worn river]

the streak 😦

[restive rain]

Nooooo

[keen bloom]

Streak is over boys. 😦

[worn river]

nooooooo

[restive rain]

The streak

[worn river]

its ogre

[restive rain]

How unfortunate

[worn river]

over 2 years of streak

[keen bloom]

Woffer12 lied to me!

[ionic fern]

Oh good

[scenic rapids]

[jade kelp]

The votes tally more for yes upload so what was the point of voting.

[gaunt sapphire]

Correct choice

[jade kelp]

It's like 4k yes to 2k no

[vital blaze]

aw therewas a poll i missed it

[tiny burrow]

W

[restive rain]

It was confirmed up until that post lol

[worn river]

what am i gonna do on monday now??? my routine is broken

[restive rain]

Floatplane

[keen bloom]

Forget Monday, what am i going to watch today?

[restive rain]

Listen to music ig

[keen bloom]

Touch grass boy-o

[vital blaze]

ya ihave it

[harsh ore]

Same here. Favorite nerd fight podcast of all time.

[worn river]

ive had the same monday morning wan show routine for like 3 years straight, god damn it now i gotta find something else to listen to for 3 hours

[keen bloom]

Looks like I'll be watching some Digital Foundry and older WAN shows next week!

[gray ingot]

bro is WAN show canceled?

[keen bloom]

guys this is an emergency, what are we going to do today?

if there is no wan show?

[gray ingot]

it's fake news

how can there be no wan show

[worn river]

what are we doing with our friday now?!

[keen bloom]

IM SERIOUS

[gray ingot]

bro it's probably photoshop

[brittle moon]

It’s not

[keen bloom]

what time is it usually every week?

[gray ingot]

5PM

[bitter finch]

larger community wasn't happy that they even dared to ask

[worn river]

i am very sad, someone reccomend a spicy wan show to listen to, i need my tech news on monday

[restive rain]

🙄

[keen bloom]

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1692593238908301316

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience.

Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 5:44 PM

[jade kelp]

Larger community doesn't pay for float plane smh

[gusty aurora]

definitely isn't photoshop. there wont be a wan show this week

[keen bloom]

confirmed!

[restive rain]

That message was a joke

[gray ingot]

bro they got hacked again

[gray ingot]

the only explanation

[bitter finch]

yes. but they are in full damage control mode and I guess didn't wanna anger people more.

understandable tbh

[gray ingot]

why would you get mad if they did WAN show?

[keen bloom]

Okay so what are we going to watch tonight if not the WAN show? What are some good live podcasts? If you guys dont come up with good suggestions I'm going down a UFO conspiracy rabbithole

[worn river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmYBENyp2JI i recommend this wan show for anyone depraved of getting tech news, this is peak WAN

[gaunt sapphire]

Polls like that are to make people think they are involved in decisions. If everyone voted no show they would say we listened to the community.

[worn river]

all the LTX wan shows actually are top tier fun

[bitter finch]

for the FP exclusives I mean.

for wan show we all know the only questions this week will be about the video and tweets and it's hard to control Linus live.

[worn river]

looks like broken chatgpt writing lmao

[tall topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUb942pcIdQ

[brittle moon]

Gross

[bitter finch]

who is this van guy and why can't he even form a basic sentence at grade 3 level?

[worn river]

this is now a recommending wan shows time

[quartz cairn]

At least i am trying 🫢🫣 why so full of hate?

[limber acorn]

Does anyone know how long the WAN Show streak was?

[gray ingot]

"was"

[limber acorn]

was

[harsh ore]

They should stream the 1st WAN show on FP and do a group watch

[elfin cloud]

would it be possible to add a streak counter to the site, now that we are starting at 0 would be the perfect moment

[gray ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-girl-dont-stop-dont-give-up-gif-13022311

[worn river]

was
😢

sadness

[gray ingot]

we still don't know

don't give up

[brittle moon]

I actually had a similar idea like 5 minutes ago 😄
I’m almost wanting to wait to add it though until things actually change for the better, since if not, there’s a good chance whenplane will be gone

[bitter finch]

cause they DO NOT deserve any support for running a toxic environment with the grind above everything else mindset. and Madison was completely right to move ahead and go public.

[bitter finch]

and I say this as a supporter of them since NCIX days

[worn river]

here is a fun WAN show trivia, if you go to the first show where luke and linus are in together you can come across the N word

[quartz cairn]

What have i done to you? Why are attacking me for my personal opinion?

Freedom of express.
Dont try to play white knigt before you have all the answer, cause you are on the hate band.

But that is you, i wish you well

[elfin cloud]

because not everybody has English as their primary language.

[robust owl]

We do though.

[quartz cairn]

Who made you a judge? Matorone
? All is not black and white, learn understand or you cause war for Nothing

[visual marten]

that sucks :(

[robust owl]

Not really. WAN show would be a disaster. The best thing they can do right now is recede and continue internal conversations.

[quartz cairn]

Thank you. That dude is full of hate. No Good but still. I wish Good time in hell 🙂

[limber acorn]

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1692593238908301316 also in case people didnt see this earlier

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience.

Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 5:44 PM

[graceful swan]

To quote Linus, "Today sucks."

[visual marten]

cant they just let luke host it lol

[graceful swan]

in happy news, new Tavarish P1 rebuild video dropped today!

[neat kiln]

Rip @tiny nimbus

[quartz cairn]

Thank you, i am trying 🙂

[brittle moon]

luke and dan show

[neat kiln]

The streak is broken.

[quartz cairn]

all the hateful who love to attack my spelling, Good luck in life 😅😂🤣

[visual marten]

who do you think would be the best fill in for linus on the wan show?

[gray ingot]

no need for calital G after the comma.

[neat kiln]

We. The community

[sonic dagger]

ok I was going to say no way they should do a WAN show lol

[worn river]

Havent seen his stuff in a while lol

[graceful swan]

was in UK

[quartz cairn]

What is valuta G?

[neat kiln]

Let's goo.

[gray ingot]

😡

[quartz cairn]

Why so hateful dude? People are Learning and languish is mix of everything also alive.

How its with you? Me devil.

[neat kiln]

Needs a community run wan show

[worn river]

i kinda enjoyed their car trek thing, although it was kinda trying a bit too hard to be top gear to me

[gray ingot]

you devil

[quartz cairn]

Why?

I am not the one who try to spred hate dude.

Be careful with you out come back.
Just saying

[visual marten]

I dont understand why Rares suddenly behaving like that towards you

[glossy latch]

Is it community WAN dock time?

[neat kiln]

Yes. What's happened this week

[quartz cairn]

Either do i, but you seens Good. Thanks god, there are Good people left. Thanks buddy

[glossy latch]

throw up a google doc, we can go over it.

[tiny nimbus]

this_aged_well.Jpg

[glossy latch]

intel updating their rivatuner like software to add the frame generation layer

[lethal pawn]

Can someone enlighten me what was this poll about? Releasing the already completed videos to Floatplane?

[brittle moon]

the already completed FP exclusives

[neat kiln]

I've heard of a scam surrounding ai written wild foraging books. Like around what foods can be foraged and are or aren't poisonous.

[gray ingot]

They will not do WAN

😦

[neat kiln]

As you can imagine these might be deadly scams

[willow kayak]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/18/yellowknife-wildfire-communication-issues-and-facebook-news-ban-hamper-evacuation-efforts?CMP=share_btn_tw . This would be an interesting topic...

[visual marten]

damn i dont want AI telling me what foraged foods are/arent poisonous :D

[neat kiln]

Get a community google doc where people can leave comments.

[visual marten]

I feel like we have reached a point we need to some sort of digital certificate which informs people if content is AI generated or Human

[quartz cairn]

All the hateful who come here just to attack people, whats up go out and touch grass inkel 😇

[neat kiln]

Personally news I'm excited for, more gaming related is Fallout 4 hit GOG. Which is another hit into DRM free gaming.

But not really wan themed lol

[visual marten]

i dont believe you are innocent :P

[bitter finch]

umm mine isn't either. English is my third language.

[quartz cairn]

It dont stop me to try act Nice even if i am evil 😇😅🤣😂🕯️✨💌🍏 Good luck all, Happy Friday

[gray ingot]

😡

[neat kiln]

It's certainly interesting. I think that if companies really want to stop overreach. The simple solution is to stop business in the country

[bitter finch]

cause this dude he's responding to is messaging and attempting to call people on private chat with vile messages in response.

[gray ingot]

I am just memeing him xD

[visual marten]

ah right

[graceful swan]

i just like the cool build process of something unique and made by craftsmen. i don't even drive by choice.

[glossy latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzNhEXLNeabQji4N6w88T4eMWOUtQtyjSEFTHA3zVgc/edit?usp=drivesdk

Everyone can leave comments, gerra hit me with an edit request

[quartz cairn]

Its always funny to trigger hateful people 😂🤣😂 have fun.

I need to go. All inkell 😂🤣😂

[tiny nimbus]

Well there goes my plan to have a nap this evening, wake up at midnight and run a bath to watch WAN Show from while enjoying bread popcorn and a spiced rum

[quartz cairn]

Yes spred more hate, feed the fire 😂🤣😂🤣😅🤗

Must feel Good. Hahaha ♥️

[gray ingot]

😡

[cobalt trench]

i need a wan show today 😭

[neat kiln]

Give me a minute as I try to figure this out from my phone

[waxen cape]

No wan today

[cobalt trench]

depression

what was the vote results

[waxen cape]

Glad they're taking the time to refocus

[tepid sedge]

I vote we, the people, have our own WAN show....

[gray ingot]

I guess luke and linus will have a chill Friday atleast

[waxen cape]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-blackjack-and-hookers-bender-gif-20104589

[tight perch]

Not only are they breaking the streak, but they are also disrespecting the sanctity of "polls"

Elon would never allow that to happen

[graceful swan]

4500 + 3000- approx

[cobalt trench]

fr

[cobalt trench]

ah

[waxen cape]

Its a poll not a vote xD
Its to gather information, no delegate the decision

[tiny nimbus]

And the very definition of a vocal minority

[glossy latch]

working on it.

[neat kiln]

What's happened this week that would warrant a topic

[glossy latch]

need news

i have the set

[tiny nimbus]

Jessica should share the redacted WAN Show doc

[bitter finch]

4000 something for and 2500 something for no exclusives

[neat kiln]

I've sent ye an edit request and I'll try to throw stuff in lol

[cobalt trench]

sad

[tight perch]

blah blah blah

[tepid sedge]

I have so many points of view on all the events that have occurred. I have lived through a similar breakdown within a corporate industry that had divisions that started as a "frat house" which honestly that is how LMG started as well. Channel Super Fun is a great place of proof of this.

[cobalt trench]

ye but whats the point of a poll if you dont care what people say lol

[tight perch]

True but in all seriousness, if it wasn't a frat house, why would LTT even be where it is?

That's their MO

[tepid sedge]

It wouldn't. That Frat House in the 2000's and 2010's were what was accepted.

[visual marten]

wasnt the poll for floatplane?

[jovial tapir]

Elon is an idiot

[gray ingot]

😡

[jovial tapir]

if u think hes smart then ur an idiot

jus sayin

[cobalt trench]

only an idiot deals in absolutes ;)

[sinful pewter]

No wan show today?

[gray ingot]

😡

[waxen cape]

No wan

[tiny nimbus]

The poll was presumably asking the Floatplane community whether to upload exclusives already in the pipeline during the pause or no, and presumably based on the vocal “no”s they decided to cancel WAN Show also

[jovial tapir]

the guy that tried to find his X on X

[tight perch]

I think it still is.. At least for the few million people that still watch LTT. You can't please everyone.

[gray ingot]

Why do you think Elon in an idiot?

[jovial tapir]

his branding is that of a narcissist

you think he actually wanted to buy twitter?

[cobalt trench]

he bought twitter bro if he rlly wants to make it an x good 4 him

[tepid sedge]

I think there is more accountability checks then in the past. If you are caught you gotta clean the Frat House out and just hope those with the talent also were not those creating those accountable actions.

[visual marten]

oh right thanks for clearing it up for me

[neat kiln]

What other tech news has happened this week

[tight perch]

Only an idiot would interpret that to mean Elon is smart OR not smart. It was an observation.. Linus definitely fits some of the characteristics of what makes Elon Elon, and hence my comment about maintaining the sanctity of "polls" as a concept

[waxen cape]

SkillUp's This Week in Videogames and Lvl1 Tech's many news show

[jovial tapir]

that makes more sense

[cobalt trench]

tbh ive also noticed how kinda similar they all which is why i dont get why linus is always hating on him lol

[neat kiln]

Well yes, but making a little mock wan show doc

[sinful pewter]

Sadness

[waxen cape]

Haaaa I see, mybad xD

[tight perch]

That's only going to lead to a slow fade. There's a reason big corporates don't make for big youtube channels or social media personalities.. Everyone already has enough of that in their regular lives.

[hard lintel]

Oh god, someone needs to make an AI eternal WAN show

[jovial tapir]

athene will do it

ask him

[neat kiln]

Oh. Of course. Lenovos gaming handheld

[cobalt trench]

if it is actually a frat house and not just people having fun

[neat kiln]

And the PS5 leak

[cobalt trench]

fun does not equal frat house

its funny sometimes how we both complain when things are too corperate

yet get mad when they are not corperate enough

[glossy latch]

google removing gas stations from maps for EV owners

[tight perch]

Yeah I mean if they are going to sanitize themselves, Gen AI will probably do a better and more entertaining job anyway.

[tiny nimbus]

I’d love a 24/7 WAN Show TV with a mishmash of current news topics with ML-generated discussion, and real merch message Q&As from previous episodes in between

[hard lintel]

Is it possible to have a fun frontend but corporate backend?

I dunno

[cobalt trench]

in my opinion if the backend is too corporate

then all the frontend fun is just fake

like LTT isnt a normal buisness

[glossy latch]

youtube won it's racial bias lawsuit

[tight perch]

I don't think so but yeah maybe, just haven't seen or heard of real examples

[glossy latch]

OH tesla charger is the new EV standard for charging

[neat kiln]

Wow I don't like that. Sometimes you just need to know where the closest convenience store is station is.
I use Google maps for when I want air in my tires or a quick snack. Not gas

[glossy latch]

sorry, at work, can't actually add to doc

[hard lintel]

Yeah.. until convenience stores/other auto amenities are common at fast charge stations as well thats not good

[waxen cape]

For the FanShow
(didn't validate anything, check the sources or whatever)

• https://theintercept.com/2023/08/18/gedmatch-dna-police-forensic-genetic-genealogy/
• https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/16/review-acronym-rmt02-asus/?guccounter=1
• https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/deja-vu-fbi-proves-again-it-cant-be-trusted-section-702
• https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/18/with-hr-3557-broadband-monopolies-are-pushing-a-bill-that-would-crush-your-towns-ability-to-stand-up-to-them/

[hard lintel]

I joked when I saw gas stations as waypoints on an EV NAV system but tbh sometimes you need to stop at a gas station for stuff

[glossy latch]

do we as a community want to go over the issues this week or no?

FANshow is perfect.

[neat kiln]

Im also at work so may be a little slow lol. I got 2 hours

[tepid sedge]

I think within LMG you have those "Old Guard" people who operated within that "Frat House" which has a completely different mentality of the new corporate identity the company has. "Old Guard" people are capable of adjusting to this corporate ident. but those that cant are the ones who would cause those reporting issues.

[neat kiln]

Just copy pasted this for the moment

[tepid sedge]

Again I only speak from experience from within the Gaming Industry (Not Blizzard) but its still very similar. The reported interactions are the same. How actions occur.

[tight perch]

To add to that, not all reporting issues are the same. SA allegations definitely need to be looked into but a bunch of other stuff like being over worked or told that the work quality is shit etc - that stuff is normal for any place that's not a corporate with 10k employees and layers and layers of management and limited accountability

[glossy latch]

i think that should be good topic wise

[tepid sedge]

And its hard to act against Profit making departments. Yeah that place is rough around the edges, but they made the company 20 million last year....

[tight perch]

And tone matters too.. Were those tongue in cheek comments or serious (the ones related to work quality)

[tepid sedge]

So you try to encapsulate those rough areas and have them try to resolve within without getting into public record.

[glossy latch]

do we want to talk about the sssniperwolf situation?

[tepid sedge]

I really dont want to see LMG go away. I understand how they got here and there is a way to resolve this, but its going to be rough. With so many people being public facing, talent will be lost if they are going to move forward. There is no way the channels are going to go back to the "past normal" and really they are going to need more talent.

[glossy latch]

youtube pushing literal stolen videos and shit reactions to them still going on.

[tiny nimbus]

I now have an extra week to catch up lesgooooo

[tepid sedge]

Soooo many pages...

[neat kiln]

That would be a quick topic if one. YouTube responded to the situation in a human way. Realizing a mistake. He took it down quickly.

[glossy latch]

...Ishowspeed did his thing.

[waxen cape]

shit really? wow

[tiny nimbus]

Oh right, there’s a penguinz0 video about it or something

[glossy latch]

sssniperwolf is the tiktok reaction channel making millions off other peoples content with what can only very loosely be called a reaction

[summer condor]

Ishowmeat?

[neat kiln]

Thiyeah I saw Charlie's video on it

[glossy latch]

speed threw his meat around

[neat kiln]

Could anyone see if this is still a thing? https://youtu.be/rpc8eiGEU7E

[granite gorge]

Awww no wan show D;

[neat kiln]

Was never really publicized at the time.

[summer condor]

The right call tbh

[granite gorge]

I would still enjoy wan show anyways

But oh well

[summer condor]

But if they did one today, it would be breaking their word about pausing production

[granite gorge]

Yes, but wan show is precious

[summer condor]

Next week is the start of a new LTT and a New Streak to go along with it

[neat kiln]

Yeah but wan isn't really all that much production

[glossy latch]

which is why we're doing a wan show

[summer condor]

how 'bout it?

[tiny nimbus]

The community’s still too riled up to the point that it would distract from everything in the WAN Show, which is too bad

[summer condor]

LTT is precious... it's not like they shouldn't have a seat and think about what they did

[granite gorge]

Ok, fine

[tall topaz]

there is some interesting takes on the lttfourms about what they should have done if wan show was on today

[granite gorge]

Yay

[glossy latch]

i do need a cohost, gerra

[neat kiln]

Oh yeah that. What's the sniper wolf one.

[waxen cape]

@glossy latch gotta have bread for FANshow!

[tepid sedge]

Oh?

[granite gorge]

🍞

[summer condor]

all terrible... one topic, no sponsors or merch messages, no chats? terrible ideas all

[tiny nimbus]

🍞

[glossy latch]

@neat kiln

[waxen cape]

🍞

[tall topaz]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1527054-is-there-a-wan-show-this-friday/#comment-16098360 worse

[granite gorge]

Funny

[glossy latch]

oh?

[neat kiln]

Honestly probably not the best person lol. I don't actually have Internet at home so I use a hotspot and cell

Jc?

[glossy latch]

there's an open position for fan show cohost

[tiny nimbus]

My Internet connection’s so high-latency to make real-time comms impossible

[glossy latch]

oh?

[neat kiln]

BuxDlux offering?

[granite gorge]

Maybe he is

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glossy latch]

should we just do side by side splitscreen like the covid wans

[tiny nimbus]

Heads overlaid on the chairs of the WAN Show set

[tall topaz]

where will you host fanshow?

[glossy latch]

or can someone edit my photo so we can greenscreen behind the table.

[granite gorge]

Where are y'all hosting this

[neat kiln]

Who else is a typical in the channel

[tepid sedge]

If its after 7:30 PST I am totally game

[glossy latch]

i'd stream it.

[waxen cape]

on discord?

[neat kiln]

Possibly a twitch

[glossy latch]

I have a twitch

i have a youtube

[waxen cape]

👍

[glossy latch]

i'm not allowed to get the floatplane stream key, already tried.

[neat kiln]

Lmao

[granite gorge]

Lol

[waxen cape]

lol

[tiny nimbus]

Easier on Twitch to insert guest hosts but not sure if it’s limited to affiliate or partner tier

[tall topaz]

how did that go?

[glossy latch]

"No"

[tall topaz]

from who?

[glossy latch]

nda

[raven hemlock]

where's the bread roll role

[glossy latch]

pinned in general

[neat kiln]

General chat pins

Gotta have co-host applications lol

[keen basin]

Bread acquired

[neat kiln]

I mean. Is it ever on time.

[glossy latch]

Hey, if anyone who knows how to edit can just snip the wan intro from a vod?

[neat kiln]

I probably could once home.

[torpid shuttle]

When they do the WAN show next week, Dan should put "+7 days" on it. So, the streak stands but they are just running a week late.

[granite gorge]

Alr I'll try

[neat kiln]

No. They just spilt the wan show into two streams.

[gray ingot]

🤔

[neat kiln]

First half. Then second half. First half is actually for this week's show

A man's totalled tesla showed up in Ukraine on their app.

https://youtu.be/RncOtyx6LiU

[tiny nimbus]

I feel even more sorry for Dan now for next week’s WAN Show, with its week-long backlog of Merch Messages

[neat kiln]

Lmao

[vague tinsel]

Hello. Popping in to ask if WAN got cancelled yet.

[maiden shadow]

It did

[granite gorge]

Yes it did

But

[tiny nimbus]

No WAN Show this week, the streak is broken

Linus Tech Tips (@LinusTech)

Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience.

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 5:44 PM

[granite gorge]

We're doing a FANshow

[vague tinsel]

Ah shit.

[glossy latch]

thE STREAK

[vague tinsel]

Well, see y'all next week. I have to get back to work.

Same bad time, same bad channel.

[tiny nimbus]

Same bread time, same bread channel

[tepid sedge]

Here is an interesting observation. How does this Discords announcments area have NOTHING for this weeks events...

[neat kiln]

@glossy latch there's a few Electric vehicle items. Perhaps a section for the EVs?

[glossy latch]

call it the EV quick charge

[strong tide]

i respect them not doing the WAN. doing the no man sky of just keep ur head down and make it fking right lol

if they actually do or dont, thats another issue tho

ngl, dont even tweet. wtf does that do

[pastel garden]

no wan show

:(

[granite gorge]

How TF is it so hard to get this stupid WAN show intro

[pastel garden]

i mean makes sense but still

man the streak is over offically

[neat kiln]

I put them under topic 2 for now

[glossy latch]

got it

[neat kiln]

I suppose. I mean we could actually look at the forum for topics lol

[glossy latch]

fair

[pastel garden]

i dont understand the poll literally said they should do it

[tiny nimbus]

And the vocal minority was so vocal they chickened out anyway

[granite gorge]

What song does the wan show intro use

[vital blaze]

Only good thing out of not doing it tonight is that linus might be less emtional next week

[pastel garden]

yea

it wouldve been a messy show today i feel like

[tiny nimbus]

R.I.P. Dan’s typing hands next week

[glossy latch]

tbh i thought it'd be easy to steal the intro from an existing wan vod D;

[pastel garden]

gonna be a ton of merch messages next week from the lack of a show this week, plus a stubby screwdriver launch

[granite gorge]

I got the intro but Linus is noisy AF so I need the aong

[neat kiln]

I can make a low copy edit of it in a bit

[knotty flint]

What's happening and the FP sub are two entirely different and irrelevant things. I still appreciate their gesture.

[tired topaz]

It’s in the description of wan I think

[granite gorge]

Alr

[neat kiln]

It'll be funny if it's not perfect. Because this is a "rip off" FANshow

[tired topaz]

https://youtu.be/IxpqlZEswok

[granite gorge]

Thanks

[neat kiln]

wan at home:

[glossy latch]

yeah i just forgot how loud linus was during intros

[tepid sedge]

we shall call it GWAN

[pastel garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8QFs6uSjqo&themeRefresh=1

[tiny nimbus]

Well I hope you enjoy your week off, and that you continue your good work post-pause

[granite gorge]

Well there it is

[tired topaz]

My day is immeasurable and my day is disappointment is ruined

[neat kiln]

I really do find it funny. This is being organized T-6 hours to wan

[tepid sedge]

Hell I will only have maybe an hour to get my mic and camera working if we aim for 7:30pm

[tiny nimbus]

If I had the time or the laptop I’d re-jig the logo so it goes from WAN to DAN to FAN

[neat kiln]

Wasdf

[pastel garden]

its gonna be epic

[tiny nimbus]

Will there be a VOD so I can watch it back in the morning

[neat kiln]

But it'll be the best FAN show

[tepid sedge]

Epic failure brings all the boys to the yard...

[pastel garden]

we got the intro now we need topics

[neat kiln]

Oh. Wan is cancelled

[pastel garden]

yea

[knotty flint]

We'll see how things pan out.

[neat kiln]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzNhEXLNeabQji4N6w88T4eMWOUtQtyjSEFTHA3zVgc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[west furnace]

Streak isn't broken, they are just breaking a record for being late to start the show 😉

[pastel garden]

they did say they were on a production break to literally fix the mistakes you complained about 😐

[glossy latch]

we're rolling topics

[pastel garden]

bingo

[neat kiln]

Gotta rename the doc to the fan show or fan wan show lol

[pastel garden]

you are part of the reason why it is cancelled so dont complain

[tiny nimbus]

Which of the other tech channels is going to try to steal the WAN Show audience with its own live video podcast, I wonder

[pastel garden]

same reasons why we have no stubby this week, no videos, no fp exclusives

[tepid sedge]

GN dont have the cajones

[tiny nimbus]

My money’s on Hardware Unboxed

[pastel garden]

theres already multiple tech podcasts that happen on the same days around the time the wan show happens

[shut burrow]

where was this? i dont think i see it on the forum

[visual marten]

is he really standing in his pool right now?

[tepid sedge]

Jayz already does live shows, just need to do it at the right time and broadcast it

[pastel garden]

i dont know the exact name but theres an apple one

[visual marten]

at least his toes will be toasty

[pastel garden]

hold on chill

[west furnace]

Lol he gone

[knotty flint]

Gives me time to continue working on the revised intro.
What should Dan say by the end of it?

[glossy latch]

HEY CAN WE HAVE THAT

[granite gorge]

Chill

[pastel garden]

lol i found it and he deleted his stuff haha

[waxen cape]

@knotty flint "Do it coward"

[tiny nimbus]

“The ‘L’ stands for ‘narcissist’”

[tepid sedge]

Love the Dan

[neat kiln]

What was his quote daring Linus to throw something at him

[knotty flint]

Do it you coward

[glossy latch]

you could ask him, answer would prolly be the L stands for narcissist.

[tepid sedge]

The "hard R" was just Linus showing how isolated he was when he was growing up

[pastel garden]

yea

[knotty flint]

I would've if I wasnt half the globe away sadly

[pastel garden]

bro chill out

[glossy latch]

do you want me to ask?

[tiny nimbus]

@knotty flint For your consideration

[pastel garden]

youve blamed linus twice in 5 minutes

[tepid sedge]

No, not everyone knows that was a thing, don't assume EVERYONE knows a particular term.

[waxen cape]

@torpid shuttle -7 days timer acquired 👀

[pastel garden]

Hes deleting his messages again 😆

[knotty flint]

It's fine, better to approach him with a product instead of a screenshot.

Will take time.

[tepid sedge]

personally, no, I didnt not know what it was until that day and looked it up for verification. I did not grown up around that usage of the slur.

[pastel garden]

here we go again

[tepid sedge]

But its still reasonable to think that not all people know all slurs.

[neat kiln]

Honestly I could see more uk folks seeing the hard R meaning r word

It's a much bigger word over there

[tepid sedge]

Based on the conversation of the time of the video I thought it was going where he though it was going and it was all South Park.

[pastel garden]

why do you keep deleting your messages my guy @potent mural

[neat kiln]

Is it confirmed Bux will co-host?

[granite gorge]

ANYWHO

[glossy latch]

yes

[tepid sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/make-it-so-picard-gif-5445593

[keen bloom]

rip wan show streak

[pastel garden]

no they are just a week late

[granite gorge]

tru[

[neat kiln]

How close do one of you look like to Luke. Is it "generic white guy with beard"y enough?

[keen bloom]

they've said it won't happen this week?

[granite gorge]

ya

[tepid sedge]

Uhm my avatar is pretty close to what I actually look like...

[keen bloom]

damn

[waxen cape]

I do lol, more than you know xD

[tepid sedge]

so I got enoug beard for a Linus and Luke

[granite gorge]

were makeing a fanshow tho

[glossy latch]

i got beard too

[pastel garden]

it doesnt bother me at all however it does show you become exceptionally insecure anytime someone confronts you in any fashion

[neat kiln]

Where's the wan show topics thread in the forum

[keen bloom]

wot's that

[frail wind]

Whats a floatplane?

[neat kiln]

I rarely use the forum so

[granite gorge]

we, the "fans" do it instead

[pastel garden]

lol

[waxen cape]

there are a lot of people here too, seems normal to me that he would be insecure about voicing an unpopular opinion

[tepid sedge]

we, the fans, who care about this community

[neat kiln]

Still need more solid discussion topics

[granite gorge]

lol

[pastel garden]

he keeps doing it lol every minute and then just purges it and starts over its almost always about something linus did

[glossy latch]

headline so far?

[granite gorge]

we need to talk about the supernand or whatever its called

[glossy latch]

On the list

[pastel garden]

fan show gonna be lit

[tepid sedge]

Hot Takes incomming!

[neat kiln]

Still unsure of I'll be able to be there for the actual show. But I'll be certain to catch a vod if I can't

[magic ginkgo]

what did I miss

what is going on?

[tiny nimbus]

Hot Fakes!

[raven hemlock]

they deleted every message today

[pastel garden]

wan show cancelled, making a fan show instead

[magic ginkgo]

I know the first

[waxen cape]

yeah, were entering the "don't feed the troll" territory

[neat kiln]

Running a fan show in place of wan show. Collecting topics.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzNhEXLNeabQji4N6w88T4eMWOUtQtyjSEFTHA3zVgc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[magic ginkgo]

will that keep the streak?

[pastel garden]

yea lol

[magic ginkgo]

and where will it be streaming?

[tepid sedge]

The 10 stages of Forums (ongoing activity, avoid feeding)

[neat kiln]

@glossy latch will be streaming it

[glossy latch]

youtube and twitch hopefully, if i can get restream running in about 30 minutes

maybe just twitch

[pastel garden]

aw dang i hate twitch

[neat kiln]

You don't have twitch partnership that would ban you from multistreaming right?

[glossy latch]

nope, no partner

[neat kiln]

Just to bring that up.

I think it was only partners. Or is it platform wide

[pastel garden]

if we have to pick one platform, i pick youtube tbh

[granite gorge]

How about the downfall of Chat GPT?

[neat kiln]

What's going on in the ltt subreddit

[limpid tulip]

im really qurious how todays wan show will be

[pastel garden]

cancelled

[neat kiln]

It's the fan show.

[tender prism]

Oh a fan show, that'd be interesting

[magic ginkgo]

who will talk lmfao?

[granite gorge]

ooooh talk about how linus and luke lied about audio and video quality

[neat kiln]

What's the biggest topic this week you can think of outside of ltt

[magic ginkgo]

this would have been way easier to do at LTX

[neat kiln]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MzNhEXLNeabQji4N6w88T4eMWOUtQtyjSEFTHA3zVgc/edit?usp=drivesdk

[limpid tulip]

ah bruh
timelines moment

[magic ginkgo]

I added some topics

[limpid tulip]

fan show?

[neat kiln]

I'm not necessarily constantly on the doc. Still have 30 minutes of work lol

[magic ginkgo]

gmt +3?

[limpid tulip]

+2

[tepid sedge]

Ouch... so much LTT in my media. And not going to go Political. still should be tech related.

[magic ginkgo]

they are always late lmfao

[limpid tulip]

im from greece

[magic ginkgo]

no problem

[glossy latch]

me and bux

[neat kiln]

Do you have edit permissions on the doc?

[tender prism]

The fires in Kelowna

[magic ginkgo]

who is bux?

[neat kiln]

Bux should be able to edit and add as well since he'll cohost

[tepid sedge]

I do

[neat kiln]

Maybe discission ideas around the topics

[tepid sedge]

A no name person from the edges of the internet

[limpid tulip]

whats that
is linus and luke not going to be on it?

[tepid sedge]

Also technically I have a few games that have my name in the credits along with cosplay photos... so perhaps not completely no name.

[neat kiln]

If y'all want to extend the time of wan show you could invite guests

I just know jc and vasboch as regulars in this chat because they're recognizable. But who else is in here on the regular

[tender prism]

If it's a community driven show then it will never end

[magic ginkgo]

does a man from the edges of the internet classify for the fan show?

I do not doubt

but still

I would rather have an open discord voice

where people can express opinions about topics

I know that moderation will be hard

[granite gorge]

Haayiaahhh, I hate that your very true

[magic ginkgo]

but I will love that

[neat kiln]

Oh wait. 730 Pacific would be 3 hours late is it?

[glossy latch]

no, thats crazy hard to mod.

[magic ginkgo]

if no one goes mayhem

[tender prism]

Lotsa mods will be there for sure

[magic ginkgo]

I meant to reply to this

[limpid tulip]

so where is this fwan show going to be streamed?

[glossy latch]

working on that

[magic ginkgo]

that is my point

so we can technically do that

we need centred people

balanced people