networking

[peak cloak]

I smell your DNS server is not set correctly

check under ipconfig /all

[tired imp]

ipv6 thingie, maybe 🤔

[peak cloak]

yeah

it's going to those

[tired imp]

Options?

• Disable IPV6 on the adapter
• Disable IPV6 on the router
  

[peak cloak]

remove those nameservers

[tired imp]

Can I tell IPV6 that the DNS is PiHole? Will PiHole understand?

[peak cloak]

you can do AAAA dns lookups over ipv4 servers

[peak cloak]

just remove those nameservers

go to here

right click on adapter you are using and press properties

scroll down to internet procotol v6

[tired imp]

Ok, I am there

[peak cloak]

and in theory just make these blank

actuall you need something

try ::1

[tired imp]

sounds good 👀

[peak cloak]

don't need alternate btw

the better solution would be to give pihole a v6 address

[tired imp]

Why does it insist in using ipv6? 😦

[peak cloak]

oh yeah cuz nslookup doesn't try another

but it should work in browser

[tired imp]

WOA

it did! 😄

If I disable ipv6 DHCP, would that solve problems on all devices?

[peak cloak]

you won't have v6 ips

the better solution is give pihole a v6 ip

also you sure you are using dhcpv6?

because the default way is SLAAC, which is this new thing

android is the stubborn one which still doesn't support dhcpv6

[tired imp]

Yes, I am in the ISP router right now, DHCPv6 is turned on

[peak cloak]

on lan or wan?

[tired imp]

lan

[peak cloak]

huh weird

usually they don't do dhcpv6

[tired imp]

it has NO OPTION to set an IPv6 DNS server, just IPv4, so even if I set pihole there, devices will bypass using Ipv6 because they have an address?

[peak cloak]

wack

either you can't find the option

or vendors not implanting v6 fully

[tired imp]

Do you think it is possible that the Router is throwing the request over to DNSv4? I think I will have to try

[peak cloak]

and no most likely not

the stack is usually and should be seperated

[tired imp]

Changing the settings does nothing

is this god telling me to buy a Ubiquiti Dream Machine Pro?

[peak cloak]

my whole setup costs less then that thing

[tired imp]

It has an LCD screen!!!

To build a router, I would need 2 NICs, right?

[peak cloak]

technically no

practically, yes

[tired imp]

I will get one to my main server then

[rocky badge]

everything for homelab tho...

[tired imp]

@rocky badge are you the voice of god telling me to buy the DMP? You see I want it, and just need an excuse, better if it comes as a miracle signal from an external force

[rocky badge]

lol

[tired imp]

Any recomendation of router software that I can put on a container/VM?

Also, thank you @peak cloak for the dedicated support today o/

[peak cloak]

I don't reccomend main router in VM

You misconfigure something, you loose connection, it's a pain in the neck

Software wise tho, opnsense

Pfsense

Those are the main ones really

Vyos is nice, but it's more advanced as CLI only

I use it for my subnet routers

[tired imp]

makes a lot of sense, thanks for sharing your experience. I will look into an accessible router with a couple wans.

Not sure about Ubiquiti because they don't really have a support program other than "Buy a new one" where I live.

[peak cloak]

Really actual full featured routers let you define what's LAN, what's WAN

You can make your own subnets as well

Use VLANs to have multiple LANs on one physical interface

[tired imp]

sounds complicated 😅

[tired imp]

Damn there are some domains for less than a dolar first year, I can just use them and bounce to a new one next year

[mental finch]

hello

can someone help me with forwarding ports

i need to forward ports for amd link

in my router. i have ax9000 from xiaomi.Its pretty simple i mean it need my ip and external/internal port.But im confused about ex/in ports.I need to forward 58888 and 41111.So i just put 58888 in external and internal?

[bronze smelt]

My dad needs my help on setting up wifi for my grandmas house and i need insight on a good router to use (she maily watches tv uses her phone, and a few other things that require the internet) she needs nothing fancy just enough to watch hq video

[rich prism]

if her ISP offers a low cost renting solution use that. having support line from isp is a big deal for grandmas.

[queen salmon]

does xbox use my network switch for remote play like other pcs would

[cobalt hollow]

Yes

[queen salmon]

so it isnt limited by my terrible router speeds

[cobalt hollow]

yes

[queen salmon]

its still only doing router speeds

[cobalt hollow]

yes

[queen salmon]

????

[cobalt hollow]

yes

[queen salmon]

fuck off if your gonna be useless

[cobalt hollow]

no

[peak cloak]

I don't understand

Like if it's connected to the switch it would??

[queen salmon]

i mean upload up to gigabit instead of 10megabit from my router

between my pc and xbox

[peak cloak]

Remote play some Microsoft thing right?

[queen salmon]

yes

[peak cloak]

It uses their servers as a a relay pretty sure

[queen salmon]

i mean through this

[peak cloak]

Idk what that is

Idk what it uses
So I can't tell you

[queen salmon]

like when i stream games from my pc to other pcs on my switch it does gigabit speeds not 10 megabit

[slate sonnet]

Could be different for consoles

[sudden kayak]

if you stream games between PCs with steam, yep that's through your local network

Xbox remote play may be doing something stupid and going though their servers even if it's on the same network

it seems like they don't really document it how it works or let you configure the network setup

or i just might not be finding the right docs so if anyone else can find them...

[swift creek]

hey any tips on getting a mac to connect to a windows NAS? I set the IP to static and entered it. It waits some time and then says no connection found. Also it doesnt show up under browsing either. My windows machine connects to it just fine

[tiny scroll]

ayo?

sus

[rocky badge]

Finder -> Go -> Connect to Server -> smb://IP/sharefolder

[swift creek]

So since I shared a drive named “DeathStar” not a folder it would be /DeathStar?

[rocky badge]

Windows should say

So looks like by default it's the drive letter

[swift creek]

I’ll try the letter the

Then

[void dirge]

should i get my own router if i have a router provided by my isp?

[meager ginkgo]

If you are paying monthly/want more control over your network then yes

[void dirge]

what are good speeds for a $100+ month plan with internet for 3 people

[meager ginkgo]

your internet is $100+ a month?

[void dirge]

on my xbox i get like 100 mbs to 160 mbs

xbox series x

my mom got the plan and it includes cable i think

[meager ginkgo]

How big is your house?

2 stories? 1 story?

[void dirge]

3 stories; my mom has renters so it would be more like 5 people then

[meager ginkgo]

hmm so you'd probably want a mesh system then

I'd recommend Eero 6 or Eero Pro 6

[void dirge]

my mom wont let me use ethernet cable cause she thinks it slows down other peoples wifi; the Eero looks good but im not sure if our router supports wifi 6

im at my dorm rn so i cant check specs

[meager ginkgo]

The Eero would replace your current router

[void dirge]

the router they provide is included in the contract right? so maybe over the months she'll end up saving money and getting faster internet. its probably going to be hard to convince her, and since im a newb it will be a struggle to set up

[meager ginkgo]

Eero is plug and play, the router they provide is likely a charge on the bill

[sudden kayak]

no offense but the correct solution here is to explain to her that Ethernet will make everyone's connection faster and use that

[meager ginkgo]

^

You could also use MoCA which is ethernet over your cable lines in your house (coax jacks)

[void dirge]

do you personally use the eero?

[meager ginkgo]

I don't as I have a more advanced setup

but I have family that loves them

[void dirge]

does the basic package include 3 modules

[meager ginkgo]

there's different packages for each model

you get 1, 2 or 3 I believe as a pack

sounds like you would need all 3

[void dirge]

where should you install them

[meager ginkgo]

Ideally on top of each other (1 on each floor)

but it depends on the layout

[void dirge]

that makes sense thx

[meager ginkgo]

no problem!

[void dirge]

im new to discord tho and im trying to techify my home. Ive been watching videos and stuff like building a nas and setting up vpns and faster wifi and even gaming pcs. What do you think are good projects to start with, and do you have any tips for newbies?

[meager ginkgo]

If you want to techify your house, I'd recommend setting up MoCA adapters for networking, and a server running Home Assistant

Home Assistant is a free smart home software that allows you to link many different smart home brands together.

[void dirge]

how do i choose between eero 6 and eero 6 pro

[meager ginkgo]

Do you know your internet speed?

[void dirge]

like 100-160 mbs

[meager ginkgo]

Eero 6 Pro also has better mesh if you plan on using that.

[void dirge]

what is mesh

[meager ginkgo]

Mesh is just how the eeros connect to each other and extend the range

[void dirge]

house is roughly 3,200 sq ft

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have cable jacks scattered throughout your home though?

[void dirge]

no

wdym by cable jacks

[meager ginkgo]

where you can hook a cable box or cable modem to

[void dirge]

a few rooms have like ethernet plugs in the wall but idk if their connected to anything

[meager ginkgo]

When was the home built around?

[void dirge]

2000-2003

[meager ginkgo]

Hmm. I assume it's telephone jacks then

You may be able to reuse the cabling for ethernet though

if it's CAT5 or 5E

5 is only officially rated for up to 100mbps but over short distances you can get gig

[void dirge]

i guess it wont be as fast though; is wifi 5 or 5e compatible with wifi 6 or wifi 6e routers like the eero

[meager ginkgo]

Ethernet is almost always faster than a wireless connection

and yes wifi is backwards compatible

I have quite a few WiFi 4 devices on my WiFi 6 network

[void dirge]

same; is it worth it to replace old/slow wires with cat 6a wifi wires?

[meager ginkgo]

If it's not working for what you need it for, sure.

[void dirge]

what do you mean?

[meager ginkgo]

If the wires work for what you need out of them, there's no need to really swap them out

[void dirge]

so rn i guess the plan is to get something like the eero 6, make a diy nas server, travel vpn router with rasberry pi, optimize wifi, and get gaming computer/pc

[meager ginkgo]

That sounds like a good plan.

You said you're not at the house right now right?

[void dirge]

any other projects you've done that you'd recommend?; My house is in College Park, Maryland and I go to a boarding school as a 7-day boarder in Front Royal, VA

[meager ginkgo]

Smart home gear is a good project, but it gets expensive fast haha

[void dirge]

The wifi at school is okay but I will probably need a wifi 6 router for a gaming pc or built in hotspot for gaming computer

[meager ginkgo]

👍

[void dirge]

there are ethernet plugs but dont think they go anywhere

[meager ginkgo]

They probably go outside to the telephone box on your house.

look similar to this?

[void dirge]

Exactly that; I will have to check about the telephone box; thanks man. btw, what smart home gear do you recomennd. My mom uses crappy android and me and sister have iphone

[meager ginkgo]

If you are setting up a server for a NAS, check out the software Home Assistant.

I'd recommend Z-Wave or Zigbee gear

https://www.home-assistant.io/

[void dirge]

My mom has photos she is so scared of losing that she hides them; i want to help with projects but is not very tech savy and afraid of losing or damaging stuff. what do you think i should do?

the nas server will help, but how do you set up smart home stuff?

[meager ginkgo]

Digital photos or like actual photos?

[void dirge]

digital photos on a drive

[meager ginkgo]

Setup Nextcloud.. I just set it up myself and it's awesome

it can autobackup her photos to your server

[void dirge]

how much storage do you think i need? im thinking about getting 3x 8tb drives and using 1 to back up incase of power outage etc.

[meager ginkgo]

3 x 8tb may be a bit excessive

what do you plan on storing on there?

[void dirge]

not a lot i guess; now that i think about it, 3x 4tb hdds makes more sense

[meager ginkgo]

Do you know the hardware you're gonna use?

[void dirge]

barracuda 4tb drives

[meager ginkgo]

I'm talking about the actual computer haha

[void dirge]

i saved it on a diy video i watched

[meager ginkgo]

Does it need to be compact?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/325157712849?hash=item4bb4e8f3d1%3Ag%3ArhkAAOSw4NtiYao6&LH_BIN=1

i'd recommend something like this with an external drive

[void dirge]

no; ill check this one out

could i repurpose an old laptop?

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah if it's somewhat new

(within the last 10 years)

[void dirge]

how could i reuse it?

[meager ginkgo]

Install a new operating system on it, and add some drives.

I'd recommend the Proxmox OS

[void dirge]

its a dell laptop with a 8th gen intel cpu; 1 tb storage; but i know its notoriously difficult to take apart; i need to order one of those precision tool kits, or do you recommend something else?

[meager ginkgo]

Just leave it how it is

Add an external drive

https://www.amazon.com/ORICO-Toolfree-External-Enclosure-Support/dp/B00GAML7OK/

[void dirge]

do i just plug it into my computer; and how much storage for hdd should i buy? maybe just 1x 8tb drive

[meager ginkgo]

I'd recommend 4tb.. you probably don't need more than that

and yes you just plug the hard drive into that enclosure then plug it into your laptop

[void dirge]

if i dont use the dell and instead a really old laptop or something else is that okay

[meager ginkgo]

Oh I was talking about the laptop lol

Really old laptops may not run well

[void dirge]

like 8 years old

[meager ginkgo]

Do you know how much ram?

[void dirge]

prob 8, maybe 16

[meager ginkgo]

oh that should probably be fine then

[void dirge]

how do you set up server on laptop

[meager ginkgo]

I'm assuming it has windows? You would make a bootable USB drive and install it onto the laptop

The bootable USB drive would contain the operating system you want to use

[void dirge]

im trying to absorb all the tips and tricks. thank you so much man. this summer im gonna set this stuff up and hopefully gpu prices come back down to sane levels. When are you on discord or otherwise free?

[meager ginkgo]

Just ping me anytime and i'll respond as soon as I can 🙂 and no problem man

[void dirge]

oh last thing; any advice on security cameras and other security stuff; Would I be able to connect them to smart home or the home servers?

[meager ginkgo]

You can make the "server" act as an "NVR" (Network Video Recorder) to store the footage from the cameras.

Just avoid those cloud based cameras like Ring and Nest. Make sure your cameras have "RTSP" or "ONVIF" functionality

[void dirge]

thanks. I may be moving in 1 1/2 to - 3 1/2 years and don't want something super perminant; Any recommendations on module cameras, where to put them, and why they should be cloud-based?

*shouldn't

[meager ginkgo]

What do you mean by module cams?

[void dirge]

like not super hard to install or remove

[hexed linden]

cloud based cameras such as ring and nest operate on proprietary software that is more often than not subscription based

Meaning you’ll pay for the camera, and continue to pay just to use it

[meager ginkgo]

ah, my recommendation would be wifi plug in cameras - put them where you have valuables such as vehicles or other things - avoid cloud based due to expensive subscriptions and lack of integration with other software

https://www.amazon.com/Security-Wansview-Waterproof-Surveillance-Detection/dp/B08CL1B2PM/\

these would probably even work fine

[void dirge]

thanks so much. the only possible hurdles for me with these projects are how long they are going to take and how much its going to burn through my wallet. thanks so much guys

[meager ginkgo]

no problem

[pale ridge]

“Hostage as a service” is the term. You pay for the hardware and also have a monthly subscription. If you don’t pay it stops working.

[hidden musk]

ewwww

android is much better than ios

[modest mirage]

tbf, neither is objectively the better option

both are solid OSs

[modest mirage]

also probably a bit varying security for the cloud based ones

[hidden musk]

well it depends on your needs

for example i don't want to pay 100$ every month so i could have one custom app without using 3rd party compilers and a jailbroken iphone. or you know, just to sideload an app like i usually do on my android by downloading apk files no rooting or privilege escalation exploits required

i wanted to install minecraft java edition on a family member's ipad and i got really confused when i found out that i had to jailbreak it to install pojav launcher

and i don't want to have to deal with apple's "safety" features

so i didn't install pojav

[waxen scroll]

Cameras do not stop theft. Recommend insurance.

[eager arrow]

This isn't hardcore networking, but does the "secured" text on wifi networks just mean it has a password to join? Or is it more complex then that

[clear igloo]

Yup, password is about it

[eager arrow]

Thanks 🙂

[tiny scroll]

💀 that ssid tho

[eager arrow]

Well I wasn't gona show one that could possibly give away my location

So I just picked that as an example

There everywhere...

[waxen scroll]

UK

[clear igloo]

1 parsec to the left of Mars moons

[tiny scroll]

bro theres a guy that legit has his ssid as "💀Virus💀"

[eager arrow]

You can change it

[tired imp]

@peak cloak thank you for the help the other day, I ended up adding a local IP to my Cloudfront DNS table 😅 much simpler and sounds safe

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo yay docker

[thick minnow]

hello i am making a mc server but for port fowarding i dont have a ucp or tcp option these are what i have what should i do

@rocky badge

[peak cloak]

Show full page

If I don't know context that screenshot is kinda useless

[thick minnow]

@peak cloak here is the full page

[modest mirage]

that's the name of an ISP tbf

[twilit sequoia]

Hey

[tiny scroll]

Yea

[reef sky]

any ideas why my iphone hotspot via cable is not stable and cuts of randomly? it worked a few times for several hours without issiues

[oak night]

USB cable?

[reef sky]

ye- usb c in pc and obviously lightning in my phone

[oak night]

No ok but can it be the usb cable?

Or is it brand new?

[reef sky]

stock new

but ive never tried a different one

let me try that

i noticed that the phone gets warm, but not like "hot" as if you leave it outside in the sun or sum

[oak night]

Probably bc its also charging

[reef sky]

oh yeah. prob thats why

can it be that too much data gets consumed and that the phone is cutting the connection off then?

[oak night]

i dont think that could be the case, have you tried restarting youe phone?

[reef sky]

ususally not but i will try that

so you think before i hop on the hotspot i should restart the phone for some sort of reason?

[oak night]

No, i was just suggesting to restart it, if it fixes it just restart your phone once its not working well anymore

[reef sky]

hmm i guess not a bad idea. ill try

[oak night]

👍

[reef sky]

well the restart brang more probs with a steady connection

lets see how longg it will stay connected

[oak night]

If you need help, im not here i'll go sleep

[reef sky]

no worries, thanks for the ideas anyway good night

[oak night]

Nothing, you too

[bronze venture]

Hey so I have some questions regarding a powerline adapter. So, I’m not sure why but the download speed is super slow between the two devices

When the previous ones were running with 16 mb/s download speeds, now we’re on a 1 mb/s download

[pulsar thorn]

Powerline adapters aren’t known for their speed…

[modest mirage]

powerline adapters are meant to be used on the same circuit, and aren't extremely reliable, they are only designed to be used when you can't use WiFi or run an actual cable from A to B

powerline adapters can be decent, but there are factors playing in here potentially making them less than ideal

[ornate echo]

Does anyone know what the cheapest way would be to run A 1000' 50om Coax cable For cellular antenna Because that's the only place I can get good speed Without cutting down every tree in the whole neighborhood!

One block over From my place I get 360 download speed on band 66 T-Mobile 5G But at my place I'm lucky too get any signal. So I tried putting a panel nemo 2 by 2 60' up in a pine tree And sadly I'm only getting 15 Download. the tower is 6 miles away

[waxen scroll]

I'm not sure I've heard of that. You need powerful equipment provided by the phone company to solve this. Also T-Mobile does offer a router like device for free that uses the internet and makes a signal for your phone inside your house

The antenna route though is not going to be cheap

Ignoring the equipment needed I've been quoted between $350-500/hr to run cat6 in my house

Coax is going to be way worse

[ornate echo]

Besides Starlink Which is not available in my area yet Getting Internet from cellular is my only option. I'm running a Mofi 5500 cell router

You can convert coax to fiber to coax But that's Quite Expensive
Is there a system to do the same thing with ethernet?

[peak cloak]

don't belive so

[ornate echo]

If anyone has any ideas of what I could try let me know

[modest mirage]

what are you trying to do?

[modest mirage]

are you trying to run a cable 1000 feet (300 or so meters), so you can get internet connection from a place with better service?

[ornate echo]

Basically

[modest mirage]

unless I misunderstand your question; you can convert ethernet to fiber and back to ethernet, just have a switch or something with SFP ports, and use an RJ45 and fiber SFP module

stretching a cable 300 meters across your neighborhood however sounds like a recipe for disaster

[ornate echo]

Lol I know I'm getting desperate lmao Pretty much my only option For high speed Internet Until starlink is in the neighborhood

[modest mirage]

I would probably look into something along the lines of what Linus installed in his new house

basically amplifier for cell service

presumably it's not going to be consumer-friendly pricing on that sort of equipment though

also depending on where you live etc, it might not be possible to use it due to laws etc as well

(presumably that solution will also act as a cell service "tower" for neighbors as well)

I don't know nearly enough about that solution to give you any solid tips on it, other than looking into it as a possibility

[ornate echo]

Hmmm
I think my biggest problem is the dense trees Blocking out the signal A block Over about 600' And down that road some there is a clear lot And I can get about 360 download on band 66 5G

Next to my house I tried putting an antenna on top of a 60' pine tree but I'm only getting 12 download on the same band

I could try different trees but I don't know how many times I want to climb 60' lol

Would I gain more signal if I went higher Or would it drop off from the height?

[modest mirage]

no clue, but generally if it's in line of sight to the cell service tower, it should (in theory at least) be better

though presumably a cell service tower won't aim to provide cell service upwards I guess, so going too high might have a bad result

although, I don't know much about this stuff in particular, so can't give you any accurate guidance

[ornate echo]

To help explain The Green line is about the angle to the cell tower, The yellow I get 450mbps, red I get a bout 350mbps And blue which is me at ground level I get no signal

I'm pretty much in the worst spot for tree blockage lol

[ornate echo]

@modest mirage cell phone booster uses 75om cable Which is much cheaper Then 50om So can I use RG6 To run the distance then have my LTE router next to the booster?

Then would just need to get permission to put up an antenna on that lot lol

[modest mirage]

not sure, you'll have to ask someone else about this

hopefully someone else comes here to chime in on the matter in not too long

[meager musk]

Just a quick question hopefully.. would plugging two routers into one modem using an Ethernet splitter work?

[unborn sluice]

2routers1modem

[pulsar thorn]

If you use a switch it might work… depends on your ISP’s configuration though

[pulsar thorn]

Some isps are incapable of configuring an ntd and allow you to get multiple dhcp leases

[wide escarp]

oh ok

[proud coyote]

Well don't worry lol

[wide escarp]

back to here i guess, like i say i download alot anime with my pc , unraid is more the storage, and the well redudnancy , could backupper

and if i have to transfer it go max at 112mb/s

while the game pc is fast and unraid uses nvme cache

[frigid sphinx]

right because that's a gigabit more or less

[wide escarp]

And pulling 2 25m cables a switch would be beter

[frigid sphinx]

well.. it depends.

[wide escarp]

also i dont have dual nics

[frigid sphinx]

what nic's do you have in the machines in question.

[wide escarp]

gaming pc 5gbe , unraid 10gbe kind of overpowered board

[frigid sphinx]

ok.

[wide escarp]

so i thought future proof and go 10gbe instead looking for 2.5gbe or 5 gbe

[frigid sphinx]

10Gbe Switches are $$$$$ tho 😦

so what's the switch you were looking at?

[wide escarp]

I think they are not that much more expansive between 2.5gbe or 5 gbe once

https://www.tp-link.com/nl/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sx1008/

here you see it , between unify and tp link

price wise they are identical yet unify can do more

and unify is usb powered unlike tp link

[frigid sphinx]

what's the unify one?

what's the unify?

[wide escarp]

unifi

Below tp link

[frigid sphinx]

nope... only tplink in the chat

[wide escarp]

huh

[unborn sluice]

tplink only

[wide escarp]

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1673590/tp-link-tl-sx105.html

[frigid sphinx]

that's still tplink 😉

[wide escarp]

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1726148/ubiquiti-unifi-switch-flex-xg.html

[frigid sphinx]

do you have other unifi stuff? (ap's/sgw/blah)

[wide escarp]

2 ps5’s n-switch, steam deck , gaming pc, unraid pc, all wired connected

Im not in to wifi , i even use my ipad on cable if i can

to many disturbances at my place

i live in a flat 9x5 households oppside of the port

[frigid sphinx]

wifi is it turns out an arms race. 😉

[wide escarp]

shit thing is if i use wifi , it combines with other wifi signals on same channel

[frigid sphinx]

not enough colors.. 😉

[wide escarp]

thats why i use cables

[frigid sphinx]

that said... better gear does make a difference (nest/deco type things) or (ubiquity/omada/merakai)

so back to your question.. if you only have a few devices.. then the ubiquity is probably sensible. it won't be manageable without a controller tho.

@wide escarp

[wide escarp]

So i need a controller to ?

@frigid sphinx

[frigid sphinx]

nah.. you can treat it as a dumb unmanaged switch

[wide escarp]

But will it work without the controlller by default ? I dont know unifi, i just read it is one good brand

[peak cloak]

yes, but as a dumb switch

I have one unifi switch

it's kinda a pita since it's my only unifi thing

so I need to keep a controller up just for i

to change vlans and such

[wide escarp]

I dont need managed , maby to balance the load \ speed, but what do ineed to controll ?

[frigid sphinx]

vlans are handy.. if you want to do things like keep iot things on a seperate wifi and vlan

[wide escarp]

I never had managed stuff

I just thought a managed switch is equal to a router

And since routers only think of wifi and not eth

I was looking for awitch instead

Wifi of 11 g speed and lan 1g

[clear igloo]

A switch is a Layer 2 (data link) device, it doesn't care about Layer 3 (IPs)
An AP is WiFi only and is kind of like a wireless switch
A router tells packets where to go between networks

There are Layer 3 capable switches that can take on functionality (depending) of the router

[wide escarp]

Well there no good routers that have atleast 2 10g eth

[clear igloo]

There are but you're looking at enterprise level stuff for thousands of dollars

You want a switch for most 10g applications

[wide escarp]

I see

[clear igloo]

If you need/want to fiddle then managed is probably the way to go
If you want plug and play (it just works) then unmanaged is going to be better

[wide escarp]

I dont know how difficult a managed switch is, like i say i probaly only eant to balance the load \ speed not that i am able now though, sometimes i see it back in lag in games

Since the unraid , even if i limited duplicati it still uses nearly the max upload

[clear igloo]

Load balancing won't help you with lag, QoS could possibly do that depending on how good it is

[wide escarp]

Qnap ?

[clear igloo]

QoS - Quality of Service
Guarantee x packets from y device(s) get priority basically

[wide escarp]

Qnap have a decent switch to but i read bad reviews

Oh

https://www.qnap.com/en/product/qhora-301w

[clear igloo]

Get an unmanaged switch and then do QoS on the router if needed for specific hosts, check to see if Duplicati has an update that might address limiting upload

[wide escarp]

This, its a 10gbe router

[clear igloo]

Not really, that's a combo unit (AIO) router + switch + AP
It definitely does route, probably at 10g speeds, but it's not just a router

[wide escarp]

I use basic router bundled in isp modem

So the qnap sucks

[clear igloo]

Not saying that, just that it has everything built into a single box which can be good or bad depending

Seems solid from a specifications perspective but not used QNAP routers so I can't say how good it is

[wide escarp]

The nas , well its ok , i used a ts673 in the past

[clear igloo]

Yah, I've got a 873 or something, it's fine

[wide escarp]

Thats all i know of qnap

[clear igloo]

Same 😄

[wide escarp]

Its easy to use and no limits duo all software

I think i have it somewhere still, maby slap in a 10 gbe card in it and let that handle the network

[peak cloak]

what no

routers route between subnets

APs are for wifi

[wide escarp]

?

What i mean even the best router only have 1 10gbe

[clear igloo]

I wouldn't bother, the QNAP is going to be CPU limited for 10g stuff and switching in CPU is going to kill throughput

[peak cloak]

no, you can find 10gbe routers

[wide escarp]

And only care of the wifi speed not even wired

[clear igloo]

Most of the advertised wifi speeds are marketing junk anyway, not something you'll actually see

[wide escarp]

I mean on gaming routers like asus, the wifi is faster than the router can even handle

[peak cloak]

that "speed" is often just aggregated theoredical wifi bandwidth

not actual speed

[clear igloo]

Yup^^

[wide escarp]

Stuff like that , it have 1 10gbe port and 4 1gbe port

[peak cloak]

well its asus

[wide escarp]

I am more loking for afortable cable 10gbe, some people even say build a pi sense

[peak cloak]

you can get a whitebox with multi sfp+ ports

[wide escarp]

I have nothing on sfp

I have all eth

[peak cloak]

well thats even more expensive

[wide escarp]

And i need long cables if i would go sfp

Atleast 20m

[hot hawk]

Wait how much resources does a docker container of nextcloud use

Cuz it pins my system most of the time

[peak cloak]

depends on the load

[hot hawk]

At idle it uses about 2 cores?

Idk how much it uses when it's at idle with an external driver connected

[unkempt isle]

if you aren't using all the features of nextcloud, which are vast, there are several lighter self-hosted options for making your own cloud drive

[hot hawk]

I was looking at mydrive, unless u got a better recommendation

[unkempt isle]

I run filerun myself after trying out a few, didn't try mydrive though, its lighter, can use the nextcloud app on phones/tablets for access etc and the free personal version does all I need it too

I run it thru an CF Argo tunnel, runs real nice for external access

[hot hawk]

Yea I'm also running argo tunnel for nextcloud

Filerun looks pretty nice, I'll look into it

How much resources does it tend to use

[unkempt isle]

right now it's idling, 0% cpu, 72 MB ram

[hot hawk]

:0

[frigid sphinx]

wifi6 can exceed 1gbps to a single client in asome configurations

but they're quite.. particular

[unkempt isle]

if you want over 1gbps in home, easier to buy used commercial equipment and build 10g ethernet backbone to critical systems, like from server/NAS to CPUs/laptop docking stations, TV mounts, a branch switch or even out to a wifi 6 ap

aruba s2500 switch is what many use, it's loud, but can have its fans moded to quieter versions

[ornate echo]

Can I run a 1050' of RG6 or RG11 For the outdoor antenna on Cell booster?

The booster has a Max gain of 65 Believe antenna has a Max gain of 11

And will I still get 500mbps On the booster side

[frigid sphinx]

@unkempt isle some of the issue is that 10GbaseT seems to have skipped the datacentre pretty much. it all went fibre at 1Gbps+

[hot hawk]

yooo set up a filerun server in a docker container

legit uses like 0 resources

thanks for the recommendation

[unkempt isle]

You're welcome

[swift creek]

Has anyone here actually used pulse way?

[crude silo]

Parsec works 99.9% of the time for me if I ever need to remotely manage a system

Not running servers however

[gloomy meadow]

Any recommendations for Router/switch that supports OpenVPN? As I am drowning in information from proprietary solutions to things like Dd-wrt.

Any help would be much appreciated

[unkempt isle]

what is your goal and price range? is this at home, work etc

[gloomy meadow]

Home. Would like it to be under 500USD but can do higher. Also my Internet caps at 1Gbps

[peak cloak]

VPN client or server

Server I assume?

[gloomy meadow]

Client I assume. As I tend to use it for my existing VPN service provider.

[peak cloak]

Ah like that

Many things should support it.

[unkempt isle]

Do you want to connect to your home lan with OpenVpn? then thats a OpenVpn server aka get a gateway with openvpn capability. I use Untangle at home, that has an ongoing sub model. the similar alt is OPNSense on your on hardware or theirs

[peak cloak]

You could get like a cheap mikrotik to be a VPN gateway

Mtik is not super user friendly, but powerful configuration wise

[gloomy meadow]

All I know is that I got a OpenVPN profile that I would like to use beyond my smartphone and PC. especially things like consoles

[peak cloak]

Yeah so basically route all traffic at home through VPN?

[gloomy meadow]

Sorry for not being that helpful with my inquiry

[gloomy meadow]

Yeah.

[unkempt isle]

Ok so you want to tunnel your entire home lan thru a specified VPN. You just then need a router that supports that

[gloomy meadow]

And what would you recommend for that? I don't need WiFi. And I know that I can disable WiFi should I have to buy one too.

[unkempt isle]

I'm not sure. All the solutions I've used are more power user oriented. Your previous responses give me pause recommending them

If you are willing to put some learning in: their is the related (pfsense, opnsense, untangle). Then outright commercial Cisco, microtek, juniper et al

And maybe someone can recommend a consumer Asus or something that does this too, imagine has to be these days

[thick minnow]

considering buying internet for 1gbps from uk what should i pick?

[orchid finch]

Are you in a Virgin Media cabled area?

Otherwise BT or variant thereof will get you near enough 1gb

assuming you can have FTTP

[spiral isle]

Openwrt is the better solution

[ornate echo]

It worked I strapped my phone to my race drone and remotely controlled it To Run a speed test Above the tree line And I got really good 5G Now I know it's worth it to run a Antenna Up the tree 😆

[torpid citrus]

So I'm not sure where to ask this but one of my buddies sent me to this discord to ask I've got a 280 ft run that I need to make with an ethernet cord because I'm renting a place that's close to the main house but not close enough to get good wifi and I was wondering what cord you guys would suggest

I'm gonna run it to my own router and then from that router to my pc

Feel free to ask any other questions you have

[clear igloo]

Honestly you're really pushing the limit of ethernet at that point, which the limit is 100m (~300ft) it could be flaky on a cheap router for example. I would invest in some fiber instead and get a pair of fiber to copper converters instead

It should work at that distance on good equipment but with lower end home routers you never know what they cheap out on and I'd hate to say run Cat6 for that distance only to have it not work when you're guaranteed for it to work with fiber no issues

[torpid citrus]

Do you have any suggestions on what to get ?

[median ferry]

when you say it's close to the main house, do you mean it's like a separate little building?
And is 280ft the distance from door to door? or that's the exact run you'll need? Keep in mind when running cable, the straight shot distance might be one thing, but having to go through walls, up, down, will add a few feet. It'll be super close to the limit of how far the ethernet signal can go.

Your solutions all depend on how creative you're willing to get. If there's a spot anywhere in between you can put a switch, that would help to effectively repeat the ethernet signal to go further

A more sure method would be to use two radios to bridge that gap. But also adds a lot more complexity

[pseudo blade]

300ft includes tolerances, doing an 85m/280ft run should be possible on almost all equipment unless you install the cable noncompliantly

[median ferry]

Tolerances is a better word for it!

[pseudo blade]

Don't run the ethernet cable alongside power for example

A second building? I'd probably just do a little point-to-point setup unless you have a plan for protecting the cable from the elements

You can get outdoor-rated cable but even then it should be in its own conduit

[median ferry]

I'd say point-to-point will be one of the most simple routes due to the distance. still high speed, still reliable. And no digging or super long cable runs to worry about.

something like the ubiquiti LAP-120-US would be able to get the job done. Mostly selected it because the price is decent. There are definitely many similar options, and other brands to choose from. LTT seems to play with ubiquiti products a lot. Could watch a few of those videos for ideas.

[south blade]

Off topic for networking, but is there such a thing that can directionally amplify my cell phones data signal from a specific direction?

[median ferry]

there are cell signal boosters you can get with directional antennas

usually pricey though

[south blade]

Yeah I've seen those but knowing I'm probably going to have to buy antennas for T-Mobiles Home Internet or drop half a grand for Starlink's hardware when they're available I'm trying to avoid making any big purchases like that. I'm outside the city and my connection from my phone hotspot is very spotty.

[median ferry]

looking to get better internet specifically?

[pseudo blade]

The LAP-120-US would probably work at that range but I'd use something more directional anyways, like Mikrotik's Cube 60G ac - similar price, but you get gigabit rather than wide coverage

[south blade]

I got nothing, moved outside the city. Viasat and Hughes are worse than my phone from what I hear. I can get 3Mbps on my phone if I put it in the right spot.

[median ferry]

Mikrotik is the way to go. I only don't mention it often because they're a little more complicated to configure. Having said that... now I recall they have a PtP that comes preconfigured to connect to its other half

[median ferry]

if your cell hotspot works sometimes, you may even consider a dedicated hotspot device. They usually have better antennas, or you can buy ones that have external antenna's

You can also see if there are any Wireless ISP's in your area (wisp). They're pretty common in rural areas

[south blade]

Both AT&T and T-Mobile said they have 4G available for me, 50GB. Maybe it's a better antenna but right now I'm on 35GB "unlimited", which has been fast enough to stream 360p when I run out of data and get locked at 50Kbps. I have reached 60GB/month leaving it downloading content over night.

[pseudo blade]

Oh this is a fun one - I helped found a company targeting your market. By the time you get a repeater or router set up properly - good mast, antennas, weather resistant - to get good speed you're kinda around Starlink's pricing anyways

You have some cheaper options at varying levels of effectiveness

[south blade]

But what's the cap is my concern. LOL

[median ferry]

with a Wisp it can vary. It's becoming more common to not have a cap.

[pseudo blade]

If they have a wisp in their area sure

[south blade]

How would I search for them?

[pseudo blade]

"Town/state" wisp

Range is usually in the kilometers so you they have to be pretty close to you

So they'll market with your town's name probably

It's either that, shop around for data plans... or Starlink

Or deal with the data cap

[south blade]

I've actually been hoping to hear from T-Mobile after hearing of first the slow downs with more congested towers and now the price increase.

Actually kinda haven't kept up with news on Starlink, the laser stuff to get more speed, etc.

[pseudo blade]

Getting Starlink hardware takes an age and a half apparently

[meager ginkgo]

price increase?

I thought TMobile lowered the prices for Magenta MAX customers

unless you're talking about Starlink?

[south blade]

Yes, Starlink.

[meager ginkgo]

Ah, have you looked at T-Mobile Home Internet?

You can get Tmobile business home internet anywhere in the country now (with caps)

[south blade]

Yes, was told it wasn't available on my side of town yet.

[meager ginkgo]

ah that kind of sucks

[south blade]

Oh, BUSINESS internet...hmmm.

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.t-mobile.com/business/solutions/business-internet-services/business-internet?icid=TFB_TMO_P_TFBBUSINT_XN1Z7SNVOTIR3ETG29643

[south blade]

Shows the same thing as their regular 5G Home Internet. I actually went up to their store and the dude went to the same website, I thought they'd check some other more official thing for actual employees. LOL

[meager ginkgo]

what are the "other options"?

[south blade]

Just 4G hotspot, 50GB cap.

[meager ginkgo]

hmm

[rain vortex]

don’t feel bad bro

[south blade]

Right now I'm on a 35GB unlimited plan, have gone all the way to 60GB so that 50GB cap sounds like crap. 😛

[rain vortex]

my city has a bigger population than a different city with fewer people and yet they have 5G and not me

[meager ginkgo]

you could get a prepaid sim card and use that in a hotspot

[rain vortex]

hypocrites

[meager ginkgo]

US Mobile is a good option for Verizon

If you want TMobile, look at Walmart Family Mobile

Can't really recommend AT&T as I've had bad experiences with them almost everywhere I've gone

Also check if Verizon 5G Home is in your area

[south blade]

I think they were the ones that didn't even offer me a 4G hotspot. LOL

[meager ginkgo]

TMobile doesn't geolock their home internet

Meaning if you want to - you can sign up at a different address and move it to your house

Maybe a friend or relatives house?

[south blade]

It's not at any of their houses. LOL, my town is on their news page from a few months ago. So I don't know. https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/t-mobile-home-internets-bigger-clap-clap-clap-clap-deep-in-the-heart-of-texas

Not at this house, not at the old house in town, not at my brothers on opposite side of town, not at friends NW in town, I don't know. LOL

[hot hawk]

@south blade u could get it at a different address and just move it

The only issue is it's still based on the reception in the area so if they don't offer it in that areas there's prob a decent reason

Tmobile Home internet is usually rolled out to areas with unused bandwidth

So it is the lowest priority

[hot hawk]

also yea it isnt geolocked

-https://www.t-mobile.com/isp/faq

[spiral anchor]

should i use my ISP's DNS or Google's or Cloudflare's in my router config?

[unborn sluice]

which ever is faster

but yea, switch to cloudflare or another

[spiral anchor]

is there a way to test this?

[carmine moss]

A ping or tracert shows what is quicker tho got to use a few different ip's to ping/tracert

[little schooner]

yes, with this tool: https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

it tells you which dns servers are fastest for your location

[spiral anchor]

thanks. I'll give it a try

is it safe to use google's I read somewhere that google keeps track of our traffic?

[kindred spindle]

Does anyone know if it's safe to plug a POE device into a POE+ port?

[clear igloo]

Yes, PoE is sensing (unless you have passive PoE ports) and adjusts wattage based on the request from the device or none at all if it's not a PoE capable device

[kindred spindle]

ok thanks!

[trail slate]

So I have a 48u server rack in my office closet that was left when I bought the house…. Suggestions and recommendations welcome

Atm I just have a few selfs, back up power, my printer in it. But still have 75% space left and feel like it’s bad karma not installing a server inside such a big server rack

[meager ginkgo]

Router? Switches?

[unkempt isle]

so build a home server what is stopping you? it's not all that different than building a PC or exactly like it depending on exactly your scope

[trail slate]

Stopping me ? Mostly money and lack of knowledge

[trail slate]

I have like 4 switches my brother donated to me but I was told that using them to hardwire everything was gonna give devices less speed

Comcast data line comes into my house in the basement , then I use eero mesh Wi-Fi

So I was told if I can hardwire the Eeroo together, then don’t use a switch to hardwire devices 🤷‍♂️

[meager ginkgo]

Ah are they old switches?

Could be only 100mbps ones

[trail slate]

Switches are nice! I think only a few years old

[meager ginkgo]

Do you know the model number by chance?

[trail slate]

Already got u

[meager ginkgo]

Oh you won't lose any speed with those

Those are all pretty recent

[trail slate]

Will I gain speed ?

[meager ginkgo]

Well, do you have Ethernet in your home?

[trail slate]

Mainly asking if I should be hardwiring my pc, Xbox , fire sticks, tvs that are all in my office room

[meager ginkgo]

yes you should - if you have the cabling

[trail slate]

I’m the walls? Hell no… there’s not even neutral wires for electrical

I got a cringe amount of Ethernet cables , all cat 6,7

[meager ginkgo]

Wait, I'm confused do you know why the previous owner had a server rack then?

I would expect them to have ran Ethernet if you have a server rack

[trail slate]

You and me both! I’m confused as hell they even got it to the 2nd story and under the 7 foot doors

There was a hole in the wall that looked like they had some sort of cable coming in

[meager ginkgo]

They might have ripped it out..

[trail slate]

But yeah… mo Ethernet cabling in the walls, but I have tons of cat 6,7

[meager ginkgo]

what about coax? (Tv jacks)

[trail slate]

No no no… it’s all plastered walls lololol trust me.

[trail slate]

What about it?

[meager ginkgo]

ah, I have no clue then

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have it in some of the rooms?

[trail slate]

Nope

[meager ginkgo]

well, you are basically out of luck then lol. Unless you use powerline networking which will probably be unreliable and slow with your wiring

[trail slate]

I got an embarrassing about of cat 6 and 7 cables already tho… just in boxes in the attic

Yeah I’ve tested power line adapters over a year ago, they aren’t too good

[meager ginkgo]

yeah I don't know what to tell you haha

[trail slate]

Tell me how to keep myself not being bored lol

This server rack seems fun

Idk what a server is / does/ how it could be useful tho

[meager ginkgo]

Do you pay for cloud storage by chance?

You could also get into home automation - with software running on a server

[trail slate]

I’m huge fan boy of home automation

I’ve tested more smart home tect then Linus

And that’s no cap , my attic of devices proves it 😆

[meager ginkgo]

Do you use a hub currently?

[waxen scroll]

then you know, nothing beats home assistant

[meager ginkgo]

if you don't - I'd highly recommend getting into Home Assistant

yep, same thought haha

[trail slate]

I’ll stab a few shots at your debate

Apple HomeKit is such a pleasure setting up, speed , compatibility with iPhone, iPad, ect eft

Add in the hoobs hub with it

Boom, everything is HomeKit compatible

[meager ginkgo]

Home Assistant can be bridged into HomeKit if you'd like 😉

[waxen scroll]

I own 0 iDevices

😄

[trail slate]

Yes, I know it’s hands down the most powerful

[waxen scroll]

this here is a google house

[trail slate]

But is the gui, and setup noob friendly as I’d like?

Even most the devices are far more ugly it seems like lol

[meager ginkgo]

it really depends - Home Assistant has come a long way in the past couple of years most things can be edited in the UI now

[waxen scroll]

I actually dont go for "control" on my HA. I go for true automation. Like it knows what I want when I want it. No interaction from me

I never open the GUI at the moment other than to check things

[trail slate]

But can I swipe up on my iPhone and already have all my favorite routines, buttons ext ect

[meager ginkgo]

yes

[trail slate]

Hmmmm…that’s all I got then

Is just simplicity and less setup time is the winner for me

[waxen scroll]

I can appreciate though that the average home automation enjoyer wants to ask siri to turn a light on and off. With mine, the computer just knows based on data from multiple types of sensors and whatnot

[trail slate]

Can’t really think of something I would need home assistant that I can’t already do?

[meager ginkgo]

Once you setup Home Assistant you will likely never want to change

[meager ginkgo]

More device integrations - even my fridge integrates into HA hah

[trail slate]

I’ve moved houses twice and yeah… 88 smart devices to setup is a big hassle to change tho

[trail slate]

That’s where the “hoobs hub” comes in? It turns any device into a HomeKit device

[waxen scroll]

my HA has something like 50 sensors and probably 5 integrations running

[trail slate]

I learned very quickly that nobody wants to speak to Alexa out loud all day every day

So I kinda left all Alexa hubs and went to google for awhile..

[waxen scroll]

the other thing is nobody actually want to open an app all the time to operate a light. the physical switches outside remain important

[proper valley]

will cisco access points work with google fiber internet, im trying to get some for my office

[waxen scroll]

thats why i hate hue

[trail slate]

Only thing google is good at and far better then the rest , is the chrome cast audio and streaming ability’s is super smooth and easy thing to have

But then I made the final switch to full apple HomeKit home once hoobs was released

[meager ginkgo]

Yes - but I'm pretty sure you need to pay a subscription with Cisco

[waxen scroll]

only if meraki, but legit cisco APs are even more expensive

[proper valley]

ok thanks

[trail slate]

Yesssss^^ that was a huge issue for my family and guests come over… So I bought a lot of Lutron switches cuz #1 they are amazing, and #2 the only thing that worked for my wiring

[waxen scroll]

i'm pissed I have to buy DNA licenses with everything

@clear igloo you people

[trail slate]

Like my harmony elite remote is super cool and runs a bunch of crazy automations… but whenever someone comes over they can’t figure out how to change channels on the tv

[waxen scroll]

lol my parents have issues with my harmony too.... they just aim it lazy and it wont shut everything off

[trail slate]

So yeah… I’ve done tons of trial and error, learning lessons with the smart home stuff lol

I hate my parents (I love them) I can’t find a damn solution to make them stop paying comcast cable $350 a month for their crazy cable bill…

[waxen scroll]

youtube TV or a sketchy IPTV provider

[trail slate]

But if my mom can’t watch her wheel of fortune, and fox Fox News and golf, and local sports… then it’s no shot

[trail slate]

I’ve jailbroken tons of fire sticks, tried teaching how to use it a ton… just nope

[waxen scroll]

my parents have all that with their sketchy IPTV service. not legal im sure

[trail slate]

They hate it Lolol

[waxen scroll]

the IPTV charges them monthly and no clue how they get the channels. they have every channel

[trail slate]

I do agree it’s super hard to find a way to get local sports live without paying comcast

I’ve tried the “hd HomeRun” (mid tier version) and I got such high hopes that it was the final solution to getting all those good free local channels…

🚫

Thing gets like 1 laggy channel and cuts out regularly

I still don’t get what a server is tho… I have a strong feeling I’d find one useful but can’t confirm till I understand the functions and how much they cost

[waxen scroll]

omg those terminals are tiny

[trail slate]

I just got these free ^^ but put them in storage thinking they are just paper weights and wasted space

I don’t know how to even hook any of that up to test… the hubs were all completely destroyed by something, no sure what rusted them out but I already threw them away

[waxen scroll]

eh. BNC is a pain in the ass. dont use it

[trail slate]

Took 1 fancy photo shoot for a eBay test

But I haven’t gotten any interest due to myself not being able to lie and say “tested and working” even tho majority of other sellers do that..

But yeah… if I could test these cameras some how maybe I’d use a few but atleast I could post them for sale if they work 🤷‍♂️

[trail slate]

If I can’t connect it straight from the cameras into a monitor or something simple, they can join in my garage sale for $1 each 😆

[waxen scroll]

I would imagine you can, if you had a BNC monitor

[trail slate]

Lmao you trolling me? Or is that a legit thing , back from the 70s

[rocky badge]

We used to have a BNC system at work, BNC monitors going to the DVR and BNC from cams to DVR.

[trail slate]

“BNC monitor” sounds like a troll name

[waxen scroll]

no, I had one as late as the 00s

[trail slate]

Damnnnn

Maybe a pawn shop would have 1 👀

[rocky badge]

Now it's just all RJ45 IP cams and IP receivers into HDMI on TVs

[waxen scroll]

you can probably get BNC LCDs because its used in production

[rocky badge]

https://www.amazon.com/bnc-monitor/s?k=bnc+monitor

[trail slate]

Dope !

I appreciate the effort looking up the link ❤️

But if I don’t find 1 local for &20< then no shot lol

Oh wow, this should work?

I never seen something like that! Before I always just researched how to wire up xxx camera and spent wasted time watching old videos 😆

How much would it cost to buy a server to use as a “plex server”

[peak cloak]

Depends

[sudden kayak]

"a server" is just a computer

it can be literally anything at any price point

you gotta decide what performance and features you need

(which is not that much for plex)

[waxen scroll]

all of my friends who have plex dont use a "server", its on their desktop

[sudden kayak]

but also don't bother using plex, use one of the free & open source alternatives

[peak cloak]

Purpose built servers do have nice features though, like remote management, hot swappable hard drives, nice bays

[waxen scroll]

b ut muh chromecast

[peak cloak]

Yeah I use jellyfin

[sudden kayak]

yeah jellyfin definitely has chromecast support

i also use it but i don't have any TVs so i don't use a chromecast

[peak cloak]

You can get drive bays tho for like a big case

Everything I run is on a HP prodesk I got for free

[sudden kayak]

i mean yeah specifically a rack mount server is nice, but I'm just trying to clarify for pksearch that there's nothing special required for something to be a server - it's just a computer that serves stuff (and sometimes has features to make that more convenient)

[peak cloak]

Yeah ofc

[peak cloak]

Put a hypervisor on it and your good

[sudden kayak]

yeah most of my self hosted stuff is handled by various SBCs and a prodesk as well

[peak cloak]

I find it better to use VMs since it gives you more flexibility

[sudden kayak]

cost, space, and power wise, the 1L vesa mount office PCs beat older rack servers by a mile

convenient but if you're just running a few well behaved self hosted things, it's not worth the overhead

[peak cloak]

The biggest thing I really want is just remote management

IPMI, idrac, iLO

[sudden kayak]

if you look around you can get Intel ME on vpro processors

not quite as nice as server-focused OOB management, but it gets you 80% of the way there and it's easier to find in office PCs

[trail slate]

Damn… you guys are super knowledgeable haha

Or I’m just too boomer for my own good, but thanks on all the info 🙂

The thing I keep getting lost on is all the examples of reasons you guys would use the server for… “remote management” “ hyper visor” “what are you using VMs for” “IPMI, idrac, iLO”

[rocky badge]

Because I'm not leaving my desk to do stuff on my servers.

[trail slate]

Abbreviations are rookies worst nightmare to hear… gotta keep googling to figure out what the message meant

[rocky badge]

ipmi = intelligent platform management interface

[trail slate]

What type of stuff you doin 👀

[trail slate]

And what would that be used for?

[rocky badge]

idrac = integrated dell remote access controller, ilo = integrated lights out

[rocky badge]

Remotely monitoring and controlling servers

[trail slate]

So it’s devices that allow you to connect remotely into settings and configurations on the server?

[rocky badge]

Yes

[trail slate]

Ah! Yes . Picture examples are the best for understanding this type of stuff haha

[rocky badge]

it's more for the actual server hardware, not much for the OS

[trail slate]

Makes sense now

Yeah, I’m sure it’s got a bunch of bells and whistles ect ect but I got the point

I think I got enough lessons to keep me busy for the weekend haha.

The questions started after seeing Linus pink color server rack in a video today 🙂

[peak cloak]

iLO, idrac, IPMI are all different company names for basically what is remote management. You can turn a server on, access it's screen, install an operating system, without ever having to physically be there

[tiny scroll]

cant you just use a laptop as a server?

like for movie streaming?

[peak cloak]

So a hypervisor is basically an OS that runs virtual machines. Running things in virtual machines gives like me more flexibility since I can like change the OS or change networking changes without actually having to hookup a monster and keyboard, especially since my machine doesn't have remote management

[peak cloak]

Yes

[trail slate]

only idea I can think of right now is like running an old school RuneScape bot farm on a server that can be easily remoted into 🤷‍♂️

[peak cloak]

I've seen plenty of laptop homelab setups

[tiny scroll]

do you need a beefy laptop or can it be a dual core one

[peak cloak]

Comes with built in ups as well...

[peak cloak]

It all depends on what you are running

[tiny scroll]

like for example a photo server

[trail slate]

Anything people love using a raspberry pi for?

[tiny scroll]

pihole

i set up mine to do that

[trail slate]

Isn’t that just ad blocker?

[tiny scroll]

ye but makes life so much better

[peak cloak]

DNS level ad blocker, yes

Not a fan of it though

[trail slate]

I already have ads blocked by other misc methods

[peak cloak]

Since devices spam DNS requests since they get a bad response

[trail slate]

I don’t have much interaction with ads where I don’t see much useful from that

Don’t things like discord bots need to live on a server?

[peak cloak]

Yes

[trail slate]

Ayeee, ideas flowing in

[peak cloak]

Discord bots are super easy to host

[trail slate]

Just to use up space in my rack, could I get 1 in my rack for under $150?

[peak cloak]

1 physical server?

[trail slate]

Yeah

[peak cloak]

Imo, best bang for buck are slightly older business desktops

[trail slate]

The power isn’t important, mostly just learning and experience usecase

[trail slate]

Something to find on like Facebook marketplace?

[peak cloak]

Old servers I'm not a fan since power hungry, loud, annoying

[trail slate]

Or a pawn shop maybe ?

[peak cloak]

Yeah you could look

[trail slate]

Yeah the noise could be an issue, but I also use a window AC unite so how much “noise”are we talking

[peak cloak]

If you want an actual server look at something at least rx20 for dell, gen 8 for HP

Those will still be kinda loud, especially hp since they don't like non HP things in them

[trail slate]

I’ll look around if you can confirm it’s likely to find something working for $150<

I don’t wanna spend anything more then that on something to just spend free time on

[carmine moss]

Oldest servers for home use is Xeon x5600 series tho e5 v1/V2 servers are better and not much more normally

[trail slate]

I’ll do a quick search

I imagine shipping cost would be huge on eBay?

Where do you shop for something like that

I searched google for “xeon 5600 server” and not much showed up

[clear igloo]

Hey now, I just break the stuff 😛

[unkempt isle]

Look local, FB marketplace, craigslist etc. For used servers

Or build your own from pieces, and no reason to go full blown server, could just be a mild nas used as server. Checkout servethehome and serverbuilds.net for idea

[pseudo blade]

I wouldn't go hunting for an x5600, at that price seriously go looking for the newest and most powerful you can get second hand in that price range, including non-server hardware

[karmic yarrow]

Agreed, anything Nehalem or Westmere is really a space heater today, definitely go for something Dell R*20 or HP Gen8 at least (Sandy/Ivy Bridge) , you shouldn't pay too much more and the performance and power consumption is a good bit better.

[prisma current]

https://theunitysoft.com/product-category/microsoft-windows/ is this a reliable site?

[still vault]

does anyone have any picks/preference for wifi cards?
or are they no longer a thing?

[meager ginkgo]

AX210 is the chipset you want

[still vault]

why the AX210 specifically
I currently run on Killer1535 snd my other laptop runs BCM94352

[tiny scroll]

what about realtek

like i used to use an archer T4e before i got ethernet in my room

[sterile galleon]

So my home broadband speed is roughly 20Mbps, however my mobile data speed is around 200mbps. Is there any way I can connect my PC to my network and to my phone's hotspot? Just thinking I could put my hotspot on when I need to download game updates and stuff like that.

[swift creek]

So im recording 1440p gaming. I have my NAS and everything is 1G. I'm currently recording to a SSD. the NAS is a 6TB WD red. thoughts on recording to the NAS instead?

[meager ginkgo]

what country?

you could replace your internet with a mobile hotspot if you wish

[meager ginkgo]

AX210 is top of the line and still under $40 in most places

Will last you a long time

[sterile galleon]

UK

[meager ginkgo]

So you basically have three options - use the hotspot from your phone and via wifi connect to it on the PC ; buy a mobile hotspot / 4G-5G home internet plan ; or connect Ethernet and connect to your phones mobile hotspot at the same time

[sterile galleon]

How do I get windows to prioritise the wifi above the ethernet? I sorta tried it but couldn't keep it from switching? My 5G on phone is unlimited data anyway, so fine just using that

[meager ginkgo]

Try this: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-change-priority-order-network-adapters-windows-10

[sterile galleon]

Thanks!

[hollow tapir]

looking for some advice on putting together a ubiquiti system at home, what should I get for a three floor home, currently thinking about a udmp with a couple of u6-lr ap powered by a non unifi poe switch

I was trying to get my hands on a unifi poe switch in country but it seems they are out of stock everywhere for the 8port I was looking at

[final echo]

Have you tried using UniFi's Design Center? I used it even for my non-UniFi gear and it helped a lot to figure out placement of my APs.

And they even have a rack designer too 😊

[hollow tapir]

haven't yet

[thick minnow]

Hey is there any web cache servers that can be run on windows server?

[still vault]

mm ok.
I guess basically it's a "decent choice" and a decently popular one (because Intel) and so is a good thing to reference to
In reality you will probably be fine as long as you do not get a cheap Chinese unknown one

[unkempt isle]

my first question would be why ubiquiti, their time in the sun came an went, the existing networking pros watched them fill a nitche they werent and they all have since provided gear to match and beat ubitquiti at their own game. <- says the former UB owner. You can look to TPLink Omada, Aruba, Meraki and many others that will have their own pros/cons, but I for one am long past recommending UB to anyone

[rocky hawk]

I have two Ubi setups and they work just fine, one of them is handling a 10Gbit network with 10Gbit ISP and 80+ devices, the other one is much smaller, but I'm still happy with it (update: 83 devices, actually checked the stats on home router)

the only bug I had with them was that if you have two ISPs it will use the slower port as the main and the faster one as a fallback and you can't change it in software

oh, there was a second bug, Sonos home theater only worked when plugged in into the same switch, but that's probably on Sonos 😄

[unkempt isle]

thats kinda UB in a nutshell there, stuff to handle high speeds at reasonable costs (they still are keeping up there compared to competition), still having buggy software (near beta or alpha quality levels at times), but people put up with it for the price. And 100 devices is pretty simple these days for almost any gear in this league

[rocky hawk]

yes and no, I've had some problems with my previous netgear + asus setup, whenever something 10gbit got plugged in one of the access point dropped the connection

[unkempt isle]

like I said I don't recommend anyone invest in building out a UB network now given the competition. You can build equal to UB for cheaper

[rocky hawk]

also the speed was capped at ~7gbit on speedtest and on top of that the netgear switch was super hot (100C)

I've bought UB just for peace of mind and it works fine

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/ce7576b7-3b39-4a64-a605-4ba89a9cf3f5 <- and it works full speed

(I can get also get 1ms ping, but there are no servers close to me that support it)

it is probably overpriced and they have stock availability issues, but you pay extra for it to "just work".

[unkempt isle]

I'm not sure I really follow because netgear makes a lot of stuff from bad to decent from home junk to commercial switches, but I cannot think of any netgear SMB 10g routers so apples to oranges comparison to UB perhaps ?

[rocky hawk]

it's definitely not apples to oranges, since the netgear switch was XS724EM

and the switch I've used from UB was USW Aggregation

a friend devops of mine told me to isolate the 10gbit network from the 1gbit stuff, so the four devices with 10gbit network cards got on one smaller switch, the rest are on USW-16-PoE

but those two switches are silent and rock solid

[unkempt isle]

but you were talking about 10gbt ISP and posted Ookla speedtests, so I assumed that meant external not just LAN speed

[rocky hawk]

yeah, but that's the part that changed

Crappy Nokia ISP-provided modem with a single 10gbit ethernet port -> netgear -> my PC = 7gbit

Crappy Nokia ISP-provided model with a single 10 gbit ethernet -> UDMPro -> USW-Aggregation -> my PC = 9.8gbit

(same with no USW-Aggregation if I just hook my PC to UDMPro)

(but I need more 10gbit ports than just one)

[unkempt isle]

Did you ever call Netgear to track down why? could have just been a setting in the switch. I know from using that switch that even though its a 24 port 10g switch you can only run half at 10g

[rocky hawk]

I've talked to customer support and they failed to provide any meaningful help other than 'must be the network card issue on the other end'

also no word on why the switch is running 80-90C even with little to no traffic

I kinda suspect some traffic inspection feature that is impossible to turn off

[peak cloak]

Never had a good experience with anything advanced with Netgear

[rocky hawk]

but after two months of looking into this I've just replaced it

same goes for the Asus wifi access points I've got (two Asus ZenWifi AX - XT8). Anything gets 10gbit on the network one of them restarts. They even had to be put on a separate switch, since plugging them directly into that netgear just puts them into restart loop

horrible experience and the asus app for configuring them was just crap

[meager ginkgo]

I'd have to disagree personally. Ubiquiti still has a good place IMO. Nothing else really compares to their mobile apps and web UI. I've tried Omada and it just wasn't near as polished and the mobile app sucked. Ubiquiti also has decent hardware for the price point, and their protect NVR is pretty cool and one of the best NVRs. I don't really agree with the pricing of their cameras but if you use a proxy with their NVR to add other cameras it's great.

[peak cloak]

Asus... For APs..... What were you thinking

[unkempt isle]

can't say I've had great experiences with advanced netgear stuff either I'm not going to go to them for 10g switches, but their CS has been better than above to me in the past

[rocky hawk]

replaced with two AP 6 Lite and one AP 6 Long range

[rocky hawk]

I was just reading the perf numbers instead of asking smarter people

[peak cloak]

Most of those numbers are marketing bs

Especially like the wifi speed perf

When it's really just aggregated total possible bandwidth on wifi that's possible

[rocky hawk]

I'm honestly fine with slower speeds on wifi now

[unkempt isle]

or you roll a blueiris box and use whatever camera you want 😉

[meager ginkgo]

I can pull near gig on an AX210 laptop with my U6-Pros

[rocky hawk]

my current result, more than enough for my laptop, if I need something faster I just plug it into ethernet or use one of the desktops

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, but I've tried that and the interface wasn't nearly as user friendly as UBNT's.

You can proxy other cameras into protect pretty easily

[unkempt isle]

Ok, spend more money, its yours to do with as you choose

[rocky hawk]

I don't really need the security cams, since I live in an apartment and they already have the security cameras

[meager ginkgo]

I just like the UniFi mobile apps. They're great. I can't even assign a static IP in the Omada app

[rocky hawk]

so I usually disable all the other apps in Unifi except for Network

[unkempt isle]

Omada controller, which you can run for free as software only

[meager ginkgo]

You can do the same for UniFi?

[rocky hawk]

I'm pretty sure you can get much better price/performance than Ubiquiti, but I just need the "just works" stuff because I need as stable connection as possible for my work 😄 I even got two ISPs for that

I do have one non-ubiquiti switch, which is a smaller 16port switch behind my home theatre cabinet. It hooks up TV, Sonos Arc + Sonos Sub and about 7 different gaming consoles to my rack cabinet

it works pretty well, so I'm fine with it, but that's not work-critical

[fair jetty]

Is 5.8mb/s considered good internet when downloading games?

[meager ginkgo]

not really lol

I get around 110MB/s when downloading games

[fair jetty]

But still

Is it atleast decent?

[meager ginkgo]

it's decent yeah

could be slower

[hollow tapir]

squid does i believe

[peak cloak]

Yes, but running a proxy these days is annoying

Not worth it at home

Especially with https

[ivory birch]

Anyone here that knows a lot about DHCP servers and Ip helper? (Cisco Packet tracer)

Need help for an exam

[abstract plume]

What's the best router on the market right now?

Im supposed to get 2Gbs wifi right now and I'm hoping to get the most out of it without bottlenecking it.

Gigabit, not gigabyte.

[waxen scroll]

hmmm probably an ASR 9000

[clear igloo]

8818 plz

[waxen scroll]

eight is LESS than nine

while you're here do you know if NCS PBR's well?

our account team says no WCCP or equal cause service provider router

[clear igloo]

I haven't touched NCS in a while

[waxen scroll]

🤦‍♂️

[clear igloo]

5000 series doesn't but 5500 does (ABF)

[waxen scroll]

it's going to turn into one of those stupid situations where you add two PBRs and the "service provider router" falls on its face

👀

[clear igloo]

xrdocs ftw
https://xrdocs.io/ncs5500/tutorials/acl-based-forwarding-and-object-tracking-for-ncs5xx-and-ncs55xx/

[waxen scroll]

I suggested removing the wan accelerator cause its 2021

buttttttt the overseas stuff would hurt

we didnt put datacenters in europe or asia

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo the 40f is still super tempting

[clear igloo]

I still say do it if you can make use of it at school

[rocky badge]

Swapped out my UDMP with ER-X and it's not doing stupid shit anymore

[waxen scroll]

I want an alternative to ubiquiti thats not mikrotik

😄

[rocky badge]

would you even say Mikrotik is an "alternative" to UniFi/Ubiquiti

[waxen scroll]

no.

[clear igloo]

Meraki Go or Aruba InstantOn 😄

[rocky badge]

isn't Meraki Go's fastest router only 250Mbps lol

[clear igloo]

I have no clue, lol

[waxen scroll]

I dont want an account team for my house

[rocky badge]

https://www.meraki-go.com/products/security-gateway/

[clear igloo]

Nah, Meraki Go is no licenses or anything unless you want advanced threat on the firewall

[rocky badge]

Firewall Throughput - 250 Mbp/s

is it app only

[clear igloo]

I think so

[rocky badge]

https://documentation.meraki.com/Go/Meraki_Go_-_Web_Portal

The Meraki Go Web Portal is designed for users to claim subscription keys and provide basic account information. wow

[waxen scroll]

yeah I worked at a place for a bit that had a meraki and I was angry when I found out you need a specific meraki appliance to make the APs tunnel guest networks

rude.

[rocky badge]

MX?

[waxen scroll]

yes

[clear igloo]

lol, what's really "fun" is you need a different license per MX model but you only need 1 for every type of AP. I think switches are on the AP style too

[rocky badge]

The Meraki NAT mode is interesting

[waxen scroll]

they had a large network where guest rode over the private network "raw" but they had ACL filters everywhere to try and stop communication except to the internet lol

[rocky badge]

Yeah, MS and MR is one license. MX depends on model.

https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/Configuring_Simple_Guest_and_Internal_Wireless_Networks

[peak cloak]

fr

well the edgerouter line

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo Public Library system here got Meraki

[clear igloo]

Sounds like fun

Please deposit $0.50 to continue streaming

[rocky badge]

they used to have a whopping 100/7mbps spectrum connection

[clear igloo]

that's a big ooof

[waxen scroll]

not really actually

i've put big offices on such connections

nobodys gaming, streaming, etc at the office for the most part

it works fine

[rocky badge]

They have library member computer access lol

And every time I'm there, there's always kids streaming YT lol

[dry bronze]

the 650 room hotel i work for used to have a 50/50 connection. we had conferences with a couple thousand guests

[rocky badge]

and they don't have rate limiting setup, you can max the 100/7 lol

[waxen scroll]

yeah none of these offices did either

TCP solves for that

[rocky badge]

Although they finally switched to the local fiber ISP this year

So they are getting gigabit for the same price spectrum 100mbps was

[clear igloo]

Yah but at the library I need my pointless videos to load in under 1ms!!! and speed is what stops me!!!
/sarcasm 😛

[waxen scroll]

YT is not a heavy load anyway

netflix is

however I have seen 1080 content from netflix only use 1.5mbit

[clear igloo]

I didn't say where the pointless videos come from

uncompressed 8k plex streams

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak The old IT director's account is still active and has recent logons His last day was June 30th 2021

[peak cloak]

uh oh

[snow sable]

Wait what, how?

[meager ginkgo]

unifi-cam-proxy, lemme find the link

https://github.com/keshavdv/unifi-cam-proxy

[snow sable]

That's pretty cool. All I've got are G3 Instants right now but that would give more options in the future.

[final echo]

I think I dove too deep with the whales, cause I'm having an issue with Home Assistant right now. I wanted to set up a HomeKit integration but I need to be able to bypass the network isolation... The HomeKit guide says to use avahi-daemon, but I don't see an easy way to find the config? So I'm at a loss and need some help haha!

[little schooner]

wish it could work the other way around on third party nvr

[bitter shell]

Desktop

i have connected my desktop and laptop to same network and enable discovery in both device but the devices are not showing up

This is the laptop

Idk understand y they are not showing up in network

[pseudo blade]

Are they both receiving IP addresses via DHCP and able to connect to the internet?