networking

[trail venture]

Can someone recommend a good 10Gb ethernet switch that is a small form factor 4-6 ports

it will be for use with a home NAS setup so it does not need to be enterprize grade just affordable

[atomic warren]

Switching to tmobile 5g internet, any tips/ advice

[meager ginkgo]

Position it by a window

also use cellmapper to find the best place to put the gateway

[meager ginkgo]

Is unmanaged fine?

[atomic warren]

What cellmaper site do you recommend?

[meager ginkgo]

https://cellmapper.net/

go to your location, and select T-Mobile as the carrier

leave the rest as default

each dot is a cell tower location

[atomic warren]

Oh thats perfect, thank you so much!!!

[meager ginkgo]

should help you decide what window to place it by 🙂

[atomic warren]

Looks like I have one projecting right behind my home.

Will trees distort the 5G?

I take that back

[meager ginkgo]

Any thing will make it slightly penetrate worse.

[atomic warren]

I was looking at 4G LTE

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah that's fine

NR 5G isn't super common yet

[atomic warren]

But it's 5G home internet?

[meager ginkgo]

There's two types of 5G.. without getting super technical, NSA 5G is the most common meaning it relies on 4G to function, SA 5G is less common and is completely standalone, you are likely using NSA 5G

[atomic warren]

Ah got it.

Because I have verizon and when I turn off wifi i get 5g

[bronze smelt]

Would i be better off with the built in wifi of a 550 mobo or a standalone card

[meager ginkgo]

Just position the gateway by the window closest to the tower

[atomic warren]

thats what I am going to do

[meager ginkgo]

that should ensure the best speeds

[atomic warren]

thanks for the help

[meager ginkgo]

no problem.

Also play around with location still

just because there's a tower directly behind you doesn't mean it will connect to that

[atomic warren]

Alright

Have you used 5g home internet before?

[clear igloo]

I've got T-Mobile 5G for my dad, it's been great for him and he lives in a very wooded area

[atomic warren]

good it know I hope this is a good replacement for my wifi

[clear igloo]

Put the gateway close to a window and you're good, generally gets about 100up/down but can go as high as like 300-500 down

In the 6 months he's had it I had to call support once and they were awesome, took less than 5 minutes to get him back online

[atomic warren]

alright i have a lot of good places that i can put it

how much sq feet does it cover?

[clear igloo]

I turned off the wifi as he's got another router that covers a good area but when it was on I would say a good 70 feet in all directions at least, didn't check too closely

[bronze smelt]

?

[atomic warren]

alright i have a larger home around 3000sqfeet so i hope it covers it well

[meager ginkgo]

you might want to buy a mesh system to go with it

Try it out by itself first though

[atomic warren]

as a matter affect I already have one

I have eero

[meager ginkgo]

👍

Who's your current provider and speed?

[atomic warren]

spectrum 200up 10down

[meager ginkgo]

if you're close to the tower and in a 5G UC zone you should get close or over that

[atomic warren]

spectrum as a company in my opinion hasnt been good shady hidden fees, adding stuff to my plan without consent etc

[atomic warren]

thats what I hope when i type my address into tmobiles website it says 5G UC

[meager ginkgo]

Also have you checked if Verizon has home internet at your place

[atomic warren]

Verizon doesnt sadly

[meager ginkgo]

Only reason I say that is because they have a dedicated bridge mode for your own router

5G Home?

[atomic warren]

Nope.

I would have went with them as I use Verizon for my phone

[meager ginkgo]

Ah well. The T-Mobile should do fine

[atomic warren]

if It can be better if not the same as spectrum then i will be happy

[clear igloo]

The only issue is you might have NAT issues with some games since you'll be behind carrier grade NAT unlike Spectrum with just one layer of NAT from your router to the internet

[meager ginkgo]

And you can't port forward or anything like that

[clear igloo]

yup

Well you CAN, it's just not easy, involving SSH tunnels and whatnot usually

[meager ginkgo]

What's the lowest plan Spectrum offers in your area out of curiosity

[atomic warren]

the lowest speeds or cost?

[meager ginkgo]

if it's somewhat cheap it might be worth it to bridge the two connections

[clear igloo]

Probably 200/10, depending on the area otherwise it's 100/5 I think

[meager ginkgo]

cost actually I guess

[atomic warren]

$80 a month

[meager ginkgo]

oh wow

[atomic warren]

they say 49 on their website for just a year then they hike you up

i could have a gig connection with fios for that money

[clear igloo]

yup, Spectrum is bad

[meager ginkgo]

You can get gig here for $80/mo

then it jumps to $105/mo

[atomic warren]

Spectrum overall is bad

[clear igloo]

Spectrum, last I saw, was $130/month for 940/35

[atomic warren]

Thats why I hope TMobile is good so I can just cut ties with spectrum

[clear igloo]

Yah, if you're not like in a metal box you'll be fine

[meager ginkgo]

and if you don't care about more advanced functions

[atomic warren]

I don't really tbh.

As long as my smarthome works and everything I should be good

I have around 50 active devices running

[meager ginkgo]

damn.

I don't even have 50 haha

[atomic warren]

lol

its mostly tvs and echos

[clear igloo]

I've got about 30 wireless and then a dozen or two wired things

[meager ginkgo]

I think I have 40ish

Most of my clients are wired

[atomic warren]

yeah i have some of my clients wired depending on where the eeros are

[meager ginkgo]

👍

[atomic warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5DeDLI8_IM

this is going to be me in like 2 weeks

[meager ginkgo]

You may want to consider using MoCA to connect the eeros hardwired to the T-Mobile gateway

[atomic warren]

MoCA?

[meager ginkgo]

Depends on how fast the gateway goes

[peak cloak]

ethernet over coax

[meager ginkgo]

Ethernet over your cable tv lines

[atomic warren]

How would I set that up?

I have my cable modem and my eero plugged in

[meager ginkgo]

I wouldn't set it up until you know you need it tbh

[atomic warren]

(sorry for all the questions all this network stuff is new to me)

[meager ginkgo]

You'll know when your Eero's don't get close to the speed the gateway is directly

Basically you would have to buy MoCA Adapters

[atomic warren]

That seems expensive

[meager ginkgo]

eBay has new ones for $35/each I think

[atomic warren]

my house has coax mostly in every room and only one cat 5e port

[meager ginkgo]

If you want a wired connection i'd highly recommend it

[atomic warren]

Alright.

What happens if I plug the gateway into the eero via ethernet?

[meager ginkgo]

So your setup would be T-Mobile Gateway -> Main Eero -> MoCA adapter (sending unit) -> MoCA adapter (Receiving Unit) -> Secondary Eero and so on

it sounds more complicated than it is

But again - i'd determine if you even need it

[atomic warren]

I think I got what your saying.

I hope I don't honestly.

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah you usually only need them if you have thick walls or a big house

[atomic warren]

That LTE tower that is near me says it was last seen in march of 2022 does that mean anything?

[atomic warren]

i dont have thick walls but i have a big house

[meager ginkgo]

That just means that's the last time someone mapped it

[atomic warren]

oh alright

[meager ginkgo]

again see how the eeros perform without being wired and go from there

The main eero should get the full speed from the T-Mobile gateway

the others are wirelessly connected i'm guessing

[atomic warren]

Wait sorry again. Do you mean connect the tmobile and the main eero through ethernet?

[meager ginkgo]

Yes connect the main eero to one of the T-Mobile's LAN ports

[atomic warren]

Okay that sounds like a good idea

and it shouldnt effect the speeds?

[meager ginkgo]

The main eero is wired to the modem/gateway

so that should be receiving the full speed

[atomic warren]

Got it.

thats what ill do

[meager ginkgo]

Wired is usually always faster than wireless

those are cell tower sectors, each antenna has a sector it covers

nothing really useful for you

[atomic warren]

what happens if they point directly to my home?

does that mean anything?

[meager ginkgo]

That just means that covers you

[atomic warren]

Okay they are pointing to me so I guess thats a good plus

[meager ginkgo]

all you need off that map is the location

[atomic warren]

And is placing it on the highest floor a big benefit?

[meager ginkgo]

Usually yes

Highest floor exterior wall by a window facing the cell tower

[atomic warren]

Okay i think I have my spot for it.

[meager ginkgo]

👍

I didn't mean to get super technical so apologies if I did 😅

[atomic warren]

Thank you for the help I will let you know how it goes when I get it

Ah no worries its okay.

[meager ginkgo]

No problem 🙂

[atomic warren]

I look forward to being on the phone with spectrum explaining what I want to cancel them

[meager ginkgo]

Try multiple different placements of it disregarding the cell tower you mapped. Sometimes it can connect to other towers

[atomic warren]

They will probably try to sell me cable tv and a landline before i go

because having a landline is such a compelling offer

[meager ginkgo]

haha

I feel you

Oh one more thing you may also want to join the T-Mobile discord server

they can help you troubleshoot any issues you have.. I can dm you the link if you want

[atomic warren]

I think I am already in it

[meager ginkgo]

Yep saw you. You're good

[atomic warren]

is this the logo?

ah alright

[meager ginkgo]

yep

[trail venture]

sorry for the long delay its just for local data transfer between 3 computers at home so yes unmanaged is fine

[atomic warren]

On the tmobile network getting 465/50 on the highest level

[meager ginkgo]

awesome.

[quasi bramble]

Anyone have experience with port forwarding a nas directly connected to the router to another upstream router?

Tried port forwarding port 445 on the downstream router's lan ip and tried activating port triggering on 445 but no luck

Not trying to expose the shares to the outside web, just want the files accessible across 2 different subnets. My network topology is a bit of a mess because starlink is my ISP

[peak cloak]

Ah, double nat

Should just need to portforward on downstream router

And the connect with the router IP

If starlink router supports static routes you could get rid of double nat while maintaining multiple subnets

Or you could bridge downstream router

[quasi bramble]

Starlink router supports absolutely nothing, can't even set static ips

[peak cloak]

Yeah, it seems so bad

From what I saw

Can you even use your own, or is it tied

[quasi bramble]

It has an ethernet port for connecting an external router but afaik no way to disable dhcp or any of that stuff on it. So I've got an asus router connected in ap mode acting basically as a wired switch and then my main router with the nas drives is connected to one of the lan ports of that

[peak cloak]

Since starlink is cgnat, I would just connect second router, and not use the starlink one at all except for the connected router ofc

That way everything is on same subnet

[quasi bramble]

That's what I was doing but the problem is the main router is in my bedroom and I want to set up a home server but don't really want it running 24/7 in my bedroom. Hence why I added the asus ap/switch hoping to set the server up downstairs in a closet beside where the starlink comes into the house

Actually now that I think about it I guess I can just swap the main router with the asus ap/switch

[peak cloak]

Yeah

[quasi bramble]

Thanks, gonna try that

[frigid sphinx]

you need 4 addresses for a point to point link (network, broadcast, gateway, other gateway)

[peak cloak]

not necessarily

requires vendor to properly support it but here's the first rfc explaining it https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3021

[frigid sphinx]

ok so yes this also allows for /32's if you're doing circuit termination of subscriber connections..

[solar kestrel]

I am having a weird issue with unifi. I have a few remote networks in different vlans traveling through layer 2 tunneling devices, but as of 3 days ago, I am unable to successfully load the webpages from some remote devices. My pings to these devices average 57-65. I thought maybe it was the isp at these sites, but I am able to remote into a computer onsite and access the devices with no problem. Any ideas?

[median quail]

Im trying to use a Raspberry pi 3 as a ethernet bridge for my computer and it wont forward the internet. My pc sees the connection as "identifying..." and no internet

[gloomy coral]

Hey!

I'm trying to fix my Nat Type being Strict, have tried enabled UPnP, can't figure out. I don't know what is a DMZ, so I won't touch that for now. I can't play with anyone or my brother can't, since our nat type is strict. Any way to fix it? Our router is connected to a modem downstairs.

Thanks!

[waxen saddle]

DMZ = DeMilitarized Zone. A kind of zone you might stick a web server for hosting web pages on the Internet.

..so not really useful for your situation. 🙂

[frigid sphinx]

you can put your playstation into a dmz on a consumer router but it's a very very terrible idea

[grand stratus]

you wouldnt do that, you would open up ports 80 and 443 only, you would never DMZ a web server, or any server where you didnt want it to be attacked constantly

[waxen saddle]

Thank you for contributing to the irrelevancy of the DMZ.

[grand stratus]

DMZ should not be a thing on consumer level equipment now, there are some uses for it in industrial and commercial equipment, but in your home... it just shouldnt be a thing

[waxen saddle]

And yet, there it is. But again, it’s not relevant to the situation.

[peak cloak]

You still open ports on DMZ

At least in my understanding

At a network level, you need to cuz NAT

On my network "DMZ" is implemented so it can't access lan

That's the point, so if server gets breached or something, there's no LAN access

Dont get me started on NAT type

What's type of BS is that

[grand stratus]

DMZing a machine effectively places it outside of the "protection" of nat, direct access to everything on the machine. sort of a "try this first, unless there is a rule to say no". so if i hit an ip on port 80, and a machine was DMZed on that network, the router would first try to route me to that DMZed machine, unless there was a specific route to another machine for that port

[peak cloak]

how does that work, you only get one ip

still needs to be natted

hmm

[grand stratus]

like i said, the router automatically tries the DMZ machine first if there is a DMZ machine

if there is not, there MUST be specific rules

[peak cloak]

yeah seems kinda stupid

since there is no network segregation

[grand stratus]

the more you actually dig into networking, especially the low level stuff, the more you realise that the internet exists entirely because a bunch of smaller networks trust each other and each of those smaller networks hope that those smaller networks dont screw each other over. the internet is held together by hope...

[peak cloak]

yes

bgp, literally based on trust

well now there's rpki

[grand stratus]

"i know you well enough to trust that you wont balls this up, so im gonna let you in on this party"

and, the best thing is, as long as you are wired in, and the service you are connected to is wired in, its theoretically possible that you and the server you are connected to are connected by what is essentially 1 very very very long copper wire

[waxen scroll]

this is why we only hire senior

🤣

[grand stratus]

although these days, that copper wire is terminated at optical transceivers

[peak cloak]

pulls a facebook

[grand stratus]

the best thing about the facework bgp meltdown was that because facebook was down, facebook staff couldnt use their internal credentials to get into the building to fix the problem

[waxen scroll]

amazon keeps asking me to apply

FB did once too

All the bad press must be hurting

[grand stratus]

friend of mine just quit amazon and moved back to his previous job. said its an absolutely horrendous place to work

he was there as a developer, and was very well paid... but... he said the level of pressure they put you under, and the level of performance they expect, is nowhere close to worth the money

[rocky badge]

@meager ginkgo Went to university in Johnson City today :) Their wifi was really good.

They had Catalyst WiFi 6 APs everywhere.

[meager ginkgo]

Niceee

[rocky badge]

160Mbps in highly dense areas

[meager ginkgo]

Brightridge?

[rocky badge]

still sub 10ms ping and 0-0.5 jitter

[meager ginkgo]

damn

[rocky badge]

MountaiNET

[meager ginkgo]

ah never heard of them

[rocky badge]

They technically have their own ASN

but Mountainet and CenturyLink/Level3 are their only peers

on the WiFi at least, they do NAT.

They also "only" have 66,560 IPs originating from their AS

[waxen scroll]

Lumen.

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[waxen scroll]

I got a friend who works there now. Not 100% sure if hes useful for rerouting requests or not

@hollow marlin maybe some day I'll quit enterprise

SP sounds annoying though

[waxen scroll]

they're wrong

the VPN is only a tunnel. You're establishing TCP to the file share

I'm kind of surprised your network people think that 😄

I once applied to a job that had two openings. Senior and Regular. I lost senior to this guy who was like your coworker

Was kind of mad

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll Would you run a /20 on a network for WiFi lol

[waxen scroll]

I dont think so, but not like I did networks in 2000

@rocky badge for public? idk probably

as long as clients cant talk to one another it doesnt matter

[rocky badge]

but it can lol

[waxen scroll]

are broadcasts off?

[rocky badge]

i was getting mdns

but idk about broadcast

i just had my phone lol

[waxen scroll]

I've seen 20+ on publics

but obviously those limit what talks to what

Most I've seen on non-public might be like /22

[rocky badge]

This was the main ssid for the university

Radius auth with my account so it probably dropped me into a student or something VLAN

[waxen scroll]

wait so you're finally done with HS?

[rocky badge]

Graduate in 16 days

[waxen scroll]

gg

[rocky badge]

Was at uni orientation today lol

[waxen scroll]

What are you learning

[rocky badge]

Comp sci lol

[waxen scroll]

do you actually code / like coding?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[waxen scroll]

its a big problem coming up in IT admin/engineer realm

So many APIs being introduced but people dont really code

[rocky badge]

everything integrating into each other lol

or no existing way to bridge them

[waxen scroll]

I code but I'm not fast at it and I mostly do it for fact finding

[rocky badge]

This uni is probably full stack Cisco

I see them using Cisco routers, switches, APs, identity services, and cloud email scanning

[waxen scroll]

dunno. unis are mixed bags. Don't be surprised to see juniper/cisco/arista/etc in the same uni

[rocky badge]

APs are all Cisco

[waxen scroll]

The one I worked for was cisco for access and juniper for DC

actually worse.

[rocky badge]

They have AnyConnect

and Unified Communications

either use a VOIP phone or Jabber

[waxen scroll]

Juniper for VPN/Firewall/DC, Cisco for LAN access, Meraki for wireless

[rocky badge]

oof

[waxen scroll]

Yes. omg. screw juniper FWs

I'm sure they're better now. Ciscos are NOT better now

gotta use checkpoint or palo

I feel bad for any security sales people at cisco

it must suck

[peak cloak]

That's pretty early

[rocky badge]

16* school days

24 actual days

[peak cloak]

Still, mines all the way near the end of June

[rocky badge]

ew

[peak cloak]

It's funny, since I have this weird dual enrollment thing at my school, I graduate college with associates before HS

[rocky badge]

lol

[peak cloak]

Gonna go for mech engineering

So many kids in my class going for computer science, which aren't really that tech savvy. Pretty surprising

[rocky badge]

🤣 this was in 2016

500GB of snapchat 😳

[peak cloak]

That's that from?

Uni data or something?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

uni's network twitter

[trail venture]

Figured I would ask again can someone recommend a affordable 10Gigabit network switch Unmanaged Small form factor 4-6 ports RJ45

[peak cloak]

@rocky badge expecting the worst for dorm internet at the school I'm going to

[peak cloak]

VPN tunnel will be ready..

[rocky badge]

classes cancelled, Netflix rise up

[trail venture]

There are so many cards but all the switches I find with this spec are huge rack mount jobs

[rocky badge]

I'm actually expecting it to be okay

[peak cloak]

Yours seems like a tech school

[rocky badge]

it doesn't seem like they are throttling WiFi

it is purely an AP/connection limit

so a wired connection probably won't be bad

[rocky badge]

it is not primarily a tech school but it's one of the largest with a computer science/computing college in the state

I think they also upped the residence hall WiFi device limit to 10 from 5

[peak cloak]

I am looking at the faq and it says wireless routers are prohibited..

Kinda reasonable tbh cuz all the ssids

[rocky badge]

most allow switches but nothing that emits WiFi

they have a policy in place, one CAT6 drop per bed

[peak cloak]

Yeah

I'm prob gonna bring a hex

So I can tunnel back home

And host public stuff via vps

[rocky badge]

for now I'm just bringing an unmanaged 8 port gigabit switch

but i might bring a fortigate or something

Although I would only have one computer, my laptop, everything else would be back home. So there's no stopping me from just running the VPN on my laptop.

[peak cloak]

I have a hex lying around so why not

[peak cloak]

I may take one of my servers

It's just a little office desktop

[rocky badge]

I would have no use lol

[peak cloak]

Local files

Since I'll be kinda far

Idk, maybe thinking too much

[rocky badge]

Apparently the digital media center has a render farm

[woven osprey]

I know this chat is not for basic tech support questions but I have a strange issue on my network. I get an error when connecting to websites (on a browser specifically). About 20% of the time I get this error, "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN"
I just got service set up through my ISP recently and correctly registered my own modem that I bought on Amazon. Everything up to that point works fine, until I add my router to the equation. I have manually set the DNS on the router, and the issue seems to happen less often. I called my ISP and Netgear, and neither can help me. I'm out of ideas, anyone seen this error before?

[sudden kayak]

that doesn't sound like a basic tech support question to me, i think you're good. when you say 20% of the time, is that consistent on a site to site basis (i.e. 20% of sites never work), or more like 20% of any random web request fails?

and does it fix itself if you request a few more times?

[woven osprey]

it seems like any time i hit a shortcut, it just has a %20 chance of working no matter what site it is. (netflix, youtube, amazon, etc.) and it will either load itself in about 5 seconds, or if I refresh the page enough it will load.

it doesn't prevent me from using the internet its just highly annoying

[sudden kayak]

hmm that sounds like it could be one resolver that is having a problem in a pool or something

you mentioned setting up dns on your router, what dns resolver are you using?

[woven osprey]

i tried 1.1.1.1 4.4.4.4 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and all are better than the "auto" setting but still giving me issues

[sudden kayak]

and you're not running pi-hole or anything locally right, just having your router tell all dhcp clients to use that dns resolver?

unless your router is doing something weird with intercepting and hijacking dns... but i can't imagine any consumer router doing that out of the box

[woven osprey]

yes, no pihole or VPN or anything fancy. I'm using otherwise stock settings on the modem and router. It goes ISP > modem > router > wired to my PC. I factory reset both devices when I got them just to be sure.

Netgear CM600 modem and Netgear R7850 router

[sudden kayak]

assuming there's nothing weird going on with your PC itself, it should be hitting the specified dns resolver every time and nothing should be changing

and if you've tried it with multiple resolvers that definitely rules out an actual upstream problem or partial outage

[woven osprey]

weirdly enough this will happen to laptops on the wifi and phones too

[sudden kayak]

when you've tried different resolvers, have you restarted your pc and the router too?

the router's configured resolver is just what's offered in dhcp settings, so some client devices won't pick up a new setting until they're either disconnected and restarted, or their dhcp lease times out

its possible whatever the default setting was on your router got advertised on dhcp and never refreshed with the clients

[woven osprey]

i will restart everything and report back in a bit

thank you so much

[sudden kayak]

no prob

that's the boring answer and there's a pretty good chance it'll fix things but if not, someone else here will probably be able to help more

[gilded ice]

when devices have webpanels are the ips all similar or completely different

i mean yeah routers are 192.168.1.1 but like cameras and databases and lan stuff

[unborn sluice]

the reason routers are 192.168.1.1 is because typically they are literally the DHCP server that gives out these IPs

[gilded ice]

ok but like a webcam or a webpanel for something on lan

do they all have the same ip with different last 4 numbers or is it completely different

[unborn sluice]

it's DHCP. we won't know for sure the IPs they would be given

[gray knoll]

The DHCP gives out IPs, as it sees fit. Usually (in Home LANs at least) they are all in the same /24, meaning that the IPs only differ in the last block (after the third .).
Atleast thats how legacy ip works, I dont think IP even has DHCP-Server (but I could be mistaken)

Oh btw I tend to call ip 4 Legacy IP and v6 IP, since v4 is as far as I know marked as legacy.

[frigid sphinx]

it's 8% of the internet? it's hardly been a successful transition I like v6 but I don't think it's taking the world over we've been out of ipv4 allocation for some time now. the commercials of it here only just caught up with people to a point that they're deploying v6 with CNAT for v4 because of the costs for IPv4 blocks

ok it's ~35% of the internet that's higher than I thought.

I have dual stack working but it's hardly been painless and it barely get's used for anything other than google searches and facebook

[unborn sluice]

routers and switches

[waxen scroll]

What my man is saying is you're in the wrong chat. We do networking

@rocky badge what's your senior prank going to be

[rocky badge]

i can fuck the nvrs /s

[waxen scroll]

reddit had a dude who rick rolled all networked projectors in the school district

[rocky badge]

they left idrac open on the nvrs with default creds 👀

[waxen scroll]

[rocky badge]

w edon't have that

BUT we have intercoms lol

with default creds

[waxen scroll]

Back when novell was a thing we had the ability to blast messages to the whole district after tweaking a registry key

[rocky badge]

their physical security of networking rooms is awful lol

their physical security is just bad overall

[waxen scroll]

have you tried making a switching loop yet?

[rocky badge]

My teacher has a master key that gets him into the MDF

They have stp

And I’ve actually accidentally did it one time lol

[peak cloak]

Same

All the IP speakers are open with default creds

[rocky badge]

Ours isn’t the intercom

It’s the appliance controlling them

[peak cloak]

They use informacast

That server is at least secured from what I saw

I wonder if I can setup a SIP and have them use that as well

[rocky badge]

I wonder if I could use the server as a bridge to the intercom VLAN

Because it’s on the school VLAN and intercom VLAN

[hollow marlin]

We have tons of customers that we integrate SIP and intercoms. Many have moved intercoms right to the IP phones

[pulsar thorn]

That gives me some ideas for my senior prank…

Problem is I’ve been taken to cops for something similar at school, so I risk big trouble…

[unborn sluice]

Weigh if it's worth

[wanton coral]

can anyone tell me which 2 networks in this cisco config are directly connected?

[peak cloak]

the ones that say directly connected.....

[wanton coral]

so 192.168.10.0 & 192.168.10.1?

[peak cloak]

there's more

[wanton coral]

oh do the serial ones count too? i thought those were like

management COM ports or something

[peak cloak]

I mean, it's still a network

and in the routing table

[wanton coral]

oh noted alright

thank you

[clear igloo]

5.5.5.0/30 and 192.168.10.0/24

[wanton coral]

Thank you! I have another question if you might be able to shed some light on - why do routers block DHCP requests by default?

Specifically the discovery broadcasts

[peak cloak]

routers in what context? enterprise cisco I assume?

[clear igloo]

Broadcasts to 255.255.255.255 are segment specific

[peak cloak]

^

[wanton coral]

ohhhhhh i was wondering if it was segment related but was unsure

[clear igloo]

That's why you need ip dhcp helper on cisco routers or the equivalent on others because it will encapsulate it into unicast to be routed to the end DHCP server

[peak cloak]

anything broadcast is segment specific

[wanton coral]

alright gotcha, thank you both!

[clear igloo]

Multicast is a different story though and NOT something you want to wrap your head around early on 😄

[peak cloak]

I still don't....

need to learn it

[wanton coral]

ive only picked up a networking course at the start of this year and its hurting my head :(

[peak cloak]

I've learned by doing for the most part

at a certain point everything kinda clicked

[clear igloo]

I mean the concept is easy enough, you have one host that sends to a bunch of hosts the want to listen to something BUT then you have little nuances about PIM trees and whatnot that really hurt the brain

[peak cloak]

not something you want to be doing in prod

[clear igloo]

best testbed is production testbed 😄

[wanton coral]

so what would be the best way to kind of answer this question "DHCP discovery broadcasts are blocked by routers intentionally; briefly explain why routers block these broadcasts and the effect it has on the whole network"

[peak cloak]

do they still teach class addressing

[wanton coral]

yes

[peak cloak]

smh

[peak cloak]

like many academic questions I don't like the wording, it's just they they aren't passed along to other segment/subnets, not really blocked in a sense.

[wanton coral]

yeah half the questions just confuse the hell out of me but they are the dam simplest thigns

[peak cloak]

tell me about it

python class, the most poorly worded questions

[wanton coral]

theyre making us learn html

[peak cloak]

learning html is kinda useless for actual programming

python is way more useful

html really isn't a programming language, there's no logic

[clear igloo]

HTML can maybe kind of sort of help you think about construction of programming if you squint and tilt your head a bit

[wanton coral]

i think its coming along nicely

[peak cloak]

many people I find get so stuck up in the syntax, they miss the whole logic part of programming

I know html, but it's not like I can make something from memory

always looking stuff up

like syntax of lists and stuff, because I forget. It's not like I'm doing that the whole time

[wanton coral]

i know what in IDE is but the first time my teacher was showing us tools to code on i was just like

MMMM CLAYMORE???

[shrewd blade]

you ever spend 2 hours trynna work out why the fuck your switch won't work and then realise you plugged a standard rj45 into the console port instead of one of those rj49 to db9 connectors thingy madongles.

it is definitely late at night.

[long thistle]

unless you want to be frontend dev

HTML, CSS + React.js (+ react-router, Redux, etc.)

[peak cloak]

it doesn't teach much if any of actual programming paradigms and such

it's just a markup language

in that case, JS is what you need

and then you should have some knowledge of the technology underneath

looking at you, networking

[long thistle]

but you can't start without HTML

[peak cloak]

technically you can, but it should be taught together with HTML

[long thistle]

yeah

you're right

[frigid sphinx]

HTML, + CSS + webassembly is pretty much programming tho (particularly webassembly)

I really liked https://nandgame.com/ for teaching low level programming (how computers acutally work)

but most 'programming' is about data formatting and data transformation. the code is simple when the data is in the right format/arrangement

[faint orchid]

not sure if this would go here. I have a Netgear AC1750 model R6400V2 that not too long ago the 5Ghz simply dropped. Iv tried factory resetting, trying the current version which is 1.0.4.126 and even trying a random previous version. Iv also tried disabling and re-enabling the frequency and even turning off the wifi with the wifi power button and still nothing. any suggestions?

[sudden kayak]

honestly that sounds like it could just be a hardware failure if you've tried flashing multiple different firmware versions and the problem persists

how old is it? you might try contacting Netgear for an RMA

[frank haven]

Kinda thinking about getting an actual router for my internet not rent one fron the people I get internet from but just find it super confusing so could anyone give something to help me figure out what I need

Idk crap about internet

Also I would preferably like to have a 1 gigabit cable router as that is what I am paying for

[meager ginkgo]

do you know what speed you have

[frank haven]

1 gbps

[meager ginkgo]

over cable?

[frank haven]

Over wifi

[sudden kayak]

what provider if you're comfortable sharing? compatibility is usually pretty easy to figure out but sometimes there are exceptions

[frank haven]

Cincinnati bell

[meager ginkgo]

Ok that looks to be fiber

[frank haven]

I pay for 1 gbps but get 90~ mbps down and 110 up or vise versa

[meager ginkgo]

Well that would be the first issue I'd resolve

[frank haven]

This is not over cable tho

[sudden kayak]

what speed if you plug in ethernet

[frank haven]

I will check cable in a minute

[meager ginkgo]

oh yeah, check ethernet

[frank haven]

Lemme check if someone at my house can check for me

I am not home rn

[sudden kayak]

if you're already renting a modem from them and not getting the speeds you're paying for (over ethernet), it's on them to replace it with something that can handle the full speed

unfortunately with wifi, there's not much you can do except buy an upgrade yourself

[frank haven]

I am on wifi 6

[meager ginkgo]

Your router is wifi 6?

Or just your device?

[frank haven]

My comp is

[meager ginkgo]

So you're not on wifi 6 then likely

[frank haven]

I mean it’s faster then my wifi 4 card

When I had that on my comp

[meager ginkgo]

You need a wifi 6 compatible router to get wifi 6 speeds

[frank haven]

Ok

I can get the model number

If you want?

[meager ginkgo]

yeah that would be helpful

[frank haven]

Aight lemme find the photo

EMG3415-B10A

I see know it only says gigabit Ethernet

Lol was curious about testing the speed of my one bar of 5g not even 1mbps down

7 up

[frank haven]

You got the model number?

[sudden kayak]

yeah so that's just wifi 5 and not the fastest of those

so a solid wifi 6 model will help

[frank haven]

And what do I need and what is compatible

I have no idea what I am doing

So is it like plug in play or is it hard

So is thing good

https://eero.com/shop/eero-6-plus?gclid=CjwKCAjwsJ6TBhAIEiwAfl4TWHdptPTOzEhpIj5bxOlG1ZXpcPRELkYJNHchX7kBwnqfSisie3xTqhoCu-gQAvD_BwE&gclid=CjwKCAjwsJ6TBhAIEiwAfl4TWHdptPTOzEhpIj5bxOlG1ZXpcPRELkYJNHchX7kBwnqfSisie3xTqhoCu-gQAvD_BwE

What are some good bang for the buck gigabit over internet reputable brands the thing above says it can do gigabit over wifi 6 but idk if it’s a good brand

[peak cloak]

Gigabit is technically possible over wifi but it's hard

Better to just use Ethernet

When possible

[frank haven]

I mean the thing above claims to be able to do gigabit over internet

And Ethernet doesn’t make much sense unless I want to run it through walls and it would be reality long runs

[peak cloak]

ethernet can do 100 meteres

[peak cloak]

you mean over wifi?

[frank haven]

And thing I currently am renting will sometimes drop signal and doesn’t have as much coverage as desired

[frank haven]

Yes

[peak cloak]

yes it technically is in spec

but it highly depends on conditions

[frank haven]

My dad has been complaining to me (the only person in my house that knows anything about tech at all) that our current router doesn’t have desired coverage and speeds and sometimes drops connections entirely

So I finally decided to look into it my mom says no cables so

It’s about getting good coverage and speed over wifi

And I want to take advantage of the gigabit we are paying for but current router is only offering it over Ethernet

[frank haven]

So are these good or is their a better brand

[peak cloak]

I mean I guess? mesh isn't the best, but it could be better than your current situation

[frank haven]

Do you know of a better product?

I will have to leave soon and will check responses when I get back but will be here for the next 5 min or so

[peak cloak]

not without running cables

[frank haven]

I mean there is a pre run cable that comes from the thing in the basement think it is the modem to where the router is currently

If running cables is the only option I will tell my dad that we have to plan a vacation for my mom so we can run them lol

[peak cloak]

with wifi you can try, but won't be guaranteed gigabit

[frank haven]

I mean as long it’s better then what I have

[peak cloak]

what do you have rn?

[frank haven]

Some random ass shit from Cincinnati bell

[peak cloak]

like speeds wise

[frank haven]

Tops out at ~120 mbps up and ~150 down rn next to it with wifi 6 in my comp

But coverage is horrible to

I am redoing my basement and some of the wifi down there is really slow haven’t tested down their yet but it’s the slowest in my house

Just leave suggestions here or dm them to me I will check in ~45 min

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have coax/cable tv jacks in your house?

Looks similar to this

If you do, you could consider MoCA networking to hardwire the wifi access point

a wifi access point is a seperate device from your router that gives off wireless

[waxen scroll]

I wish Linus would shave.

[low pond]

Hmm same

[frank haven]

I can check

[meager ginkgo]

yeah you can get up to 2500mbps over them with an adapter

[frank haven]

I only pay for 1 gbps

[meager ginkgo]

that's fine, you will only get up to gig speed from them then

[frank haven]

Ok

I will check

[meager ginkgo]

👍🏻

It's fairly easy to setup if you can access the place they all go. It's usually on the side of your house in a box.

Then you get an Ethernet output from one of the adapters and hook that up to the router/access point

[frank haven]

No I don’t have any

[meager ginkgo]

Ah okay. Then Eero Pro would probably work

I'd personally avoid the regular eeros, due to not having a dedicated channel for meshing

[frank haven]

Ok

So the eero+ is the same as the eero pro right?

[velvet jolt]

If someone wipes and reinstalls windows on a used pc because they are afraid the current windows installation could have malware or something bad, are they paranoid?

[peak cloak]

no

[waxen scroll]

no

[peak cloak]

that's what you should be doing

[frank haven]

Those are softwares that will find most of it

Without losing data

[peak cloak]

well still, reccomended to wipe

[frank haven]

Ones called malewarebyte I used it before

[peak cloak]

copy any data off

but it's used, so you shouldn't have any needed data

[velvet jolt]

Yeah. It already looks wiped but you never know. Thank you. Sorry for wrong channel.

[frank haven]

Np

[peak cloak]

still may not be able to find everything

[frank haven]

But will find majority

[peak cloak]

especially stuff like zero days

those are scary

log4j was insane

[frank haven]

Should keep Chanel to specific topic

Wait lol

[velvet jolt]

Yes. I realized wrong channel after that. Sorry

[frank haven]

Clicked on the wrong thing to reply to

Didn’t mean to reply to you meant to reply to my question

[meager ginkgo]

no

eero+ is different, eero pro 6 is what you'd want

or maybe even a refurbished regular eero pro

[frank haven]

I found the pro thank you

[meager ginkgo]

👍🏻

[frank haven]

I will now try to convince my dad

To not cheep out

[meager ginkgo]

you could always buy them seperately

[frank haven]

Wut

[woven osprey]

@sudden kayak I spoke with you a few days ago about my DNS issues being weird, I resolved it by downgrading the firmware on my router 🤦🏼‍♂️ I hate Netgear

[meager ginkgo]

missed a word 😛

[frank haven]

Ok

It’s cheaper to buy them together

[meager ginkgo]

yeah, just letting you know you have options.

[frank haven]

Yeah

[meager ginkgo]

If your house isn't very big you may be fine with one.

[frank haven]

Makes sense thanks

It probably needs two

It exceeds the recommended square coverage of one

[meager ginkgo]

ah yeah then thats what I'd do 👍

[frank haven]

Now if I get multiple would I want to put them on different floors or put the second one in the weakest area

[peak cloak]

well not the weakest area

[meager ginkgo]

I'd try to stack them on top of each other on different floors

[peak cloak]

because it still needs wifi signal itself

[frank haven]

Ok that should be easy then

[meager ginkgo]

yep

[frank haven]

So one would get pluged into the fiber cable coming out of my modem into one of them

And then the other just gets power?

[peak cloak]

not fiber, you would need ethernet

[meager ginkgo]

^

[frank haven]

Ok

[meager ginkgo]

they should include Ethernet cables

[frank haven]

I will double check if it’s Ethernet

[peak cloak]

what ISP do you have btw?

[frank haven]

Cincinnati bell

[meager ginkgo]

I believe it's a fiber ISP

[frank haven]

Yeah

I think Ethernet goes into the current router

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah then you would just unplug that router and swap it out

[peak cloak]

just asking because with like ATT it's technically ethernet out of fiber converter, but it's encrypted and stuff until it goes to their gateway

[frank haven]

Ok

[meager ginkgo]

I have to deal with this unfortuantely

[frank haven]

Rip

[peak cloak]

there's ways around it

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah I know.. but I don't have a router that can do it

[frank haven]

I am almost home

[meager ginkgo]

And I don't want to do the dumb switch method

[frank haven]

And will send pics of what I think is the modem

And router

[meager ginkgo]

sounds good

[frank haven]

Is this modem?

[peak cloak]

no

[frank haven]

Ok

[peak cloak]

what does the fiber go to

[frank haven]

Into the ceiling

Is this router

[meager ginkgo]

yes

[frank haven]

Ok

Well somewhere in between here and the basement their is a modem

[meager ginkgo]

What's plugged into the back of that

[meager ginkgo]

So that beige cable will plug into your router then

[frank haven]

Power white Ethernet cable not plugged into anything used it to get wifi driver for computer

[frank haven]

Ok

[peak cloak]

what about the other fiber?

[frank haven]

Wdym

Wait nvm

[meager ginkgo]

other one comes from the street im pretty sure

[frank haven]

I will go check

[frank haven]

Yes one does 99% sure

[peak cloak]

weird if the ONT /Modem is hidden

[frank haven]

Ooooooooo

[rocky badge]

Huh that's interesting. So they are using that single pon to bring rfog and ip services, but you don't get a RF output lol

[frank haven]

I have fake ceiling in basement

It probably above it one the real ceiling

[meager ginkgo]

You don't need to find the ONT I don't think

[peak cloak]

yeah interesting

[frank haven]

Wait lol

Found it

[rocky badge]

If you just want to replace your router, you only care about the cable going into your existing router's WAN

[rocky badge]

since it's not fiber going in

[meager ginkgo]

yep what blob said

[frank haven]

Ok

[meager ginkgo]

there's no need to do anything with the ONT

[peak cloak]

ok yeah, you should be fine to plug router in

[rocky badge]

They probably need it to filter out rfog wavelengths though

[frank haven]

So just plug and play past initial set up

[peak cloak]

it's a big ont, so it most likely doesn't do anything like ATT does

[frank haven]

Of new router if I get it

What is an ont

Bro what is autocorrect doing

[peak cloak]

modem and ONT are usually intergangebly, but modem usually is used to describe what terminates/converts coax/dsl to ethernet, while ONT (optical network terminal) is used for fiber

[rocky badge]

■ Input wavelength: 1540-1565nm
■ (Output to ONT) Wavelength: 1610 ±10nm

Because it's basically splitting the wavelength and providing for each separate service while providing a coaxial output.

[frank haven]

Ahh ok

[rocky badge]

So TV services Cinci bell provides probably isn't IP VLAN based but rather coaxial/DOCSIS

[frank haven]

I understood none of that

[meager ginkgo]

do you have tv through them?

[frank haven]

We pay for it but don’t have it run

[peak cloak]

technical stuff you don't need to know, just nerds nerding out

[frank haven]

Cause it’s cheaper to buy the bundle then just wifi

[meager ginkgo]

yeah then you're fine

[frank haven]

Ok

[rocky badge]

delivers advanced bi-directional, interactive RF services over a passive fiber optic distribution network. It is deployed with an existing PON ONT, enabling all voice, video and data services on a common fiber infrastructure.

[frank haven]

Uh hu

So I think I asked this but only one of the new router has to be plugged into the wan cable the other just needs power?

[meager ginkgo]

yep

[frank haven]

Ok cool

I will go see if my dad is not on a call

[meager ginkgo]

Play around with the placement of the other eero too.

[frank haven]

I don’t have them :(

[meager ginkgo]

Don't just leave it in one place without testing others

I'm saying when you do.

[frank haven]

Ok makes sense

[frank haven]

Ok

[meager ginkgo]

https://speedtest.net is a good way to test the speeds

[frank haven]

Idrc where the other is as long as ones on top of my comp 😏

Lol

I will start testing speeds around my house

And an Ethernet cable directly to the current router

[meager ginkgo]

👍🏻

[frank haven]

This is one floor below current router

It does not like my phone

And froze on upload

[meager ginkgo]

Not bad

[frank haven]

15 feet away previous spotdropped down to 20

Lol

[meager ginkgo]

mmm

[frank haven]

Wtf I tried the same spot (right next to router in same room) and it was 400 up first time then next time same spot it was 200 up hmmm

Sorry almost 500 not 400

[peak cloak]

that's a lot of runs

summer job, I did a bit of low voltage work for an electrican

had to install jacks on the end of a run like that

PITA

[trail venture]

So is there anyone here who works with DD-WRT I am trying to figure out if there is a way to use multiple connections to simulate a faster switch?

Essentially I want to run two gigabit connections from my 2.5 g switch to the router and than configure another two ports as WAN to connect another two seperate gigabit connections to the modem which has a dual rj45 as well

I don't know if this is possible using a Netgear R8000 but trying to squeeze some more life out of it without needing to but a new router

I do have a USB to serial device incase this will require direct terminal access but I will need someone to help walk me through it

[sudden kayak]

that's so weird. glad you got it sorted out! sorry i couldn't be more helpful

[waxen saddle]

I’m not quite sure what you mean by simulating a faster switch. You definitely won’t get double speed on anything except for maybe the dual connections between switch and router if you enable link aggregation. (Or the functional equivalent). But as soon as you’re trying to connect over the modem, you’re limited by the ISP speed. So basically, it will only go as fast as the slowest link, and you will see zero performance benefit without link aggregation.

[woven osprey]

No worries bro just wanted to expand both our knowledge lol

[sudden kayak]

if the actual modem can do more than 1Gbps and your ISP offers that kind of speed, you can try to convince your ISP to give you two separate connections and then load balance between them with your router. but i very much doubt a combo netgear wifi box will be able to handle that, even with ddwrt

[glad ferry]

I mean... Whats the goal here?

Do you want 2 x 1G INET Connection because it sounds cool?

Or do you need it?

I would be willing to bet that there is "no need" for a connection lager than 1G to the internet.

Now internally... that is a different story...

I personally have use cases for 10G Internally sometimes even 40G when Storage is getting hit hard by the Virtual Environment.

[peak cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347415052623806475/968627911944994936/Shirt.png

[meager ginkgo]

Just setup WPA2-Ent.. man that was a pain in the ass

[peak cloak]

radius auth?

[meager ginkgo]

yep

[peak cloak]

wonder if you can use SSO for that

[sudden kayak]

I'm not aware of a way to do it directly

at work almost everything is on SSO but for wifi we have to use a client certificate

which obviously you can stick behind SSO to provision and download but i think if there was a way to do SSO directly with radius ..... we'd be using it

[split escarp]

just accidently deleted my vlan which was serving over ~800 hotel clients...

[peak cloak]

messing with prod...

better revert

[split escarp]

deployed to the wrong proxmox vm

[peak cloak]

you are routing in a VM?

[split escarp]

well i have OpenWRT on it so yeah

[peak cloak]

for hundreds of clients...

[split escarp]

so we run the vlan off the primary switch which is in the networking room, and that is on proxmox so I can remote, espically over covid lockdown;

and then that leads to switches on every floor, which lead to APs on every floor

[peak cloak]

yeah, but routing... in a vm...

[split escarp]

hey it works,

[peak cloak]

for that many users

[peak cloak]

budget

[split escarp]

very efficient

[peak cloak]

I wouldn't say efficient

maybe budget wise, sure

[split escarp]

well its no different if it was running on hardware

[peak cloak]

a dedicated router with hardware acceleration is more efficent

[midnight wyvern]

Bhjjhf

[faint orchid]

I got it back in October 2019, i cant do an rma due to its over the 2 year manufacturer warranty. I forgot to do the replacement plan exchange with best buy which us where i bought it. And if i contact netgear they want to charge me that "service"plan they have.

I assume if its hardware failure for a router and no Rma is available its not worth trying to fix it?

[waxen scroll]

nope

[pseudo blade]

https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/

No need perhaps, but I wouldn't say need's the only factor influencing people's networking decisions :P

[waxen scroll]

I base my speed on what I actually use and can deal with before noticing its slow

For me paying $300/m for e-Points makes no sense when I cant tell on $35/m service

[peak cloak]

Yeah, 300/300 is what I have, it works, its nice, latency is great. Only downloads are not as fast, but I don't download enough

[unkempt isle]

In my area I would like the ISPs to focus a bit more on the upload speeds, download offerings are fine, the uploads speeds are horendous, great I can get 1000 down, and what 40 up gee thanks

[peak cloak]

Symmetrical is great

[unkempt isle]

agreed, I'd take 300/300 all day every day over 1000/40

sadly google fibre is just a few miles away offering 2g/2g so is ATT, I think or will be soon

[pseudo blade]

Upload speeds are beyond like 40mbps (really 20mbps, they've been trying to kill the 40mbps up offerings and charge more for them) are considered a business feature in Aus

1000/400 is $429/mo if your local infrastructure can handle it

[waxen scroll]

120/10

Outside of waiting an extra minute for downloads I don't notice at all even with multiple users

[sudden kayak]

yeah unfortunately low upload speeds are a consequence of legacy cable infrastructure

[rocky badge]

We have Gig/500Mbps and we use a steady...100Kbps down and 1Mbps up? lol

Although the average goes up with streaming and usage.

[modest roost]

Im getting 40Gbit/s fiber to the home in 2 week

just bought this router

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_uLxZYYEpQ

[white pivot]

Met with Nvidia today, they have some interesting plans for Grace and Hopper with their DPUs

[pseudo blade]

Nice! I highly recommend you acquaint yourself with the switch menu and layer 3 hardware offloading features for performance reasons.

I see the video mentions them, but you'll need to explicitly enable it or it'll do CPU routing instead.

[modest roost]

Thank you for the tips, I’m a first time user for mikrotik and first time using fiber, will also do a core 100gb network.

Doing deep dive on all of their stuff

Here is the server room in my house

[peak cloak]

Damn

Though it's more audio than network it seems

[modest roost]

Yes 1 network, 2 is video and 3 is audio

But everything uses network, so 5 x 48 port switches full

[dry bronze]

I'm not sure why but the most interesting thing is the MFP at home

[ripe coral]

So currently my ISP says we have a 900Mbps plan. With direct ethernet from router to pc i max out at 350. Anyone know if the ISP is throttling or if its the router they provided (i use their router because they charge you for not using their router)

[thick minnow]

Cable company? If its the cable company what you get depends on your location. Only thing thats going to get you the speed you pay for is fiber or vdsl. Vdsl is gonna top out at 100mbs fiber is fiber...

[clear igloo]

Coax (cable) isn't location/distance based, DSL is however

[knotty tartan]

I'm setting up a peer to peer 10Gig network configuration on my workstations for filesharing and I'm having a hard time getting the throughput when they connect over the 10gig adapter at all. Could anyone assist me?

[thick minnow]

Say that when you are at the end of the tap....Coax internet somewhat works like a water main. if you are the end of the line you will have less water pressure. Theoretically yes you can have the same speed for the whole distance that is assuming that the cable company isn't overselling their capacity. If you happen to be on a leg that is over sold your speed will suffer.

[west sonnet]

i'm looking to setup a game cache similar to the LTT video, but i would like it to auto download updates for me, so i can just grab them from my nas when i need them on my PC. any suggestions?

i should also specify why i'm looking for this. the new apartment i'm moving to gives us free internet, but it's only 100mb/s down. so i'm looking to have this download updates for me while i'm not there, then copy over the local network so i don't "feel" the speed difference.

my original idea is to just setup a windows VM with all the game launchers on it, set them all to auto update all the time, then just grab the files from that VM. i don't think that will cause any problems will it?

[snow lance]

can the first octet of an IP have 3 digits?

cuz I feel like they never do

other than local ones

[peak cloak]

yes

mine literally does

[snow lance]

ah lmao wot

is there any octet that can't have 3 digits?

[peak cloak]

no each octet is a byte

[snow lance]

is it just rly rare for some of them then?

[peak cloak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserved_IP_addresses
this has a good overview of IP addresses and their purposes

[peak cloak]

no?

I mean you'll never like get certain ones

[west sonnet]

i've seen plenty of IP's with 3 digits in each octet

[snow lance]

oh it's just cuz this guy for some reason set a rly big number to his nick and a guy is like is that your IP camera hahahah

and I'm like I don't think it do be like that

[snow lance]

oh weird I've never seen one

with 3 digits in every octet

[peak cloak]

google.com.             229     IN      A       142.250.80.14```

not in every one , but you get the idea

[west sonnet]

i see it all the time in business/enterprise space. a lot of times we use IP's to tell us basic information about the device. (i.e. where it is, what type of device, etc)

[peak cloak]

yeah, subnetting within a network

using VLANs and such

so network device managment would be on one VLAN

a branch office could be another VLAN

etc. etc.

[snow lance]

but that not in all octets

[unborn sluice]

^

[snow lance]

ah so you can't have 3 digits in every single octet of one ip?

[unborn sluice]

^

[peak cloak]

you can

there's nothing in the spec you can't

here

amazon.com.             18      IN      A       54.239.28.85
amazon.com.             18      IN      A       176.32.103.205
amazon.com.             18      IN      A       205.251.242.103```
Happy?

[snow lance]

I see

ight thanks

it was this message lmao

[peak cloak]

nah

not a valid IP

[unborn sluice]

looks like the username

[peak cloak]

it's only a byte per octet

byte can only go up to 255

@snow lance

at least for ipv4

[winged lily]

aww so i canthave 1.420.420.420 as an ip adress

[snow lance]

ahhh I knew smth was wrong

[snow lance]

would've been cool af 😔😔😔

[winged lily]

what if snoop dogg bribed the creator if ips to let him have that ip

[snow lance]

would have to change the entire system 😔

[snow lance]

btw why?

[west sonnet]

https://www.howtogeek.com/341307/how-do-ip-addresses-work/#:~:text=The reason each number can,number the octet can reach.

[snow lance]

I'll read later thanks

[peak cloak]

It's just the spec

An ip address is 4 bytes

Ipv4 specification

Ipv6 is different

@snow lance https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc791#section-3.2

under addressing

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc790

this is old, so some concepts are no longer really used

[royal estuary]

Each octet can go up to 255

[royal estuary]

Each octet is one byte. One byte can go up to 255

[royal estuary]

U can have 69.69.69.69

[clear igloo]

or 2001:420:69::bb for IPv6 😄

[royal estuary]

It belongs to centurylink atm

[royal estuary]

This belongs to cisco lmao

[winged lily]

now we're talking

[royal estuary]

Get centurylink internet and theres a small chance u can end up with it

[peak cloak]

beef

doesn't facebook use beef

[clear igloo]

I think so

[royal estuary]

Deadbeef

[clear igloo]

dead:beef

[royal estuary]

8008

B4 mods complain i would like to state the numbers came b4 i knew that was in ur filter

[thick minnow]

wait until you start to get into subnetting

that's where i can get confusing

[waxen scroll]

facb:00k

[peak cloak]

then routing

[livid frigate]

Hello, my internet crashed a few weeks ago and my supplier is not doing anything therefore i want to buy a router in which you plug a sim card in 5g. But there are so many caracteristics that i don't know so that's why i'm asking for your help: do you know a good one which is fast and reliable?

[pale ridge]

Cisco isr1111 is pretty nice

O right no 5g

[livid frigate]

okay thanks

oh it's quite expensiv

[clear igloo]

Why would you think a $1000+ enterprise style router would be good for someone asking for plug and play 5G support?

[pale ridge]

There was no context and it is a starting point to a conversation.

[livid frigate]

I need somthing about 100 euros it's temporary whil my box is down

while*

[pale ridge]

Budget is a good starting point. 🙂

[livid frigate]

I think so too😂

[clear igloo]

Look locally in your country for 5G capable routers, those with external antennas are going to be a bonus or the option to extend the receiver will help you with placement of the device relative to the best location for a signal. If you don't need wireless then that simplifies things a bit I'm sure depending on what you want it to do

Make sure it's compatible with your carrier and bands which I would say is generally going to be easier looking at local retailers than global ones and you're less likely to run into issues when checking local carriers with local sites selling 5G routers

[pale ridge]

Out of interest could you get a usb dongle which would suit your needs since it was temp

Maybe your current router supports a usb internet connection?

[livid frigate]

Okay thank you very much. I don't find anuy 5g router so i think i'm giong to stick with 4g. Btw I'm in france so i think the compatibility should be fine

what do you think about this one?

[livid frigate]

no unfortunately

https://www.amazon.fr/TP-Link-MR600-Antennes-Amovibles-Opérateur/dp/B07RS7HM59/ref=pd_sbs_sccl_3_1/262-5827659-7103628?pd_rd_w=zxDIG&pf_rd_p=684ebbbd-2bae-46e5-b7e6-02f705bd0aa2&pf_rd_r=7V5T03CS6FCJ0N8D0D24&pd_rd_r=4bf3bbd4-85f9-44ec-9828-b837f64a2245&pd_rd_wg=fKvT1&pd_rd_i=B07RS7HM59&th=1

[pale ridge]

Tp-link are very consumer grade.

[livid frigate]

what you mean?

[pale ridge]

It will do you fine as a device but don’t expect it to last more then a few years or preform amazingly.

[livid frigate]

as long as it's capable of 500mbs it's fine to me

[pale ridge]

Mileage may vary

Can you get 4G 500mbs currently where it is going?

[livid frigate]

but it only depends on the quality of the 4g no?

[livid frigate]

I think so i am in paris

[pale ridge]

Yer Paris is a big place

Do you have a mobile you can set to 4G and test in the same location as where you will put the router?

[meager ginkgo]

I doubt you will get a consistent 500mbps

[livid frigate]

yes i will do that now

let's the experiment decide

[meager ginkgo]

Unless you're on mmwave or something similar

[pale ridge]

Just remember wireless is an inherently unreliable media.

[livid frigate]

yes i know but it's only temporary(hope so)

[livid frigate]

🤣

[pale ridge]

Smoking

[livid frigate]

it's a disaster

[pale ridge]

What are you needing 500mbs temp for?

[livid frigate]

downloading big fat games

[pale ridge]

Maybe just wait for yourself to be back on fixed data?

[livid frigate]

I think i will 😅

But thank you very much to you all for your advises

[heady dome]

looking for a good 5 port 2.5GB switch

[meager ginkgo]

unmanaged managed?

[heady dome]

unmanaged

[meager ginkgo]

which one

oh

https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-2-5GBASE-T-Compatible-10-100-1000Mbps-TEG-S350/dp/B08XWK4HNT/

that looks ok

[heady dome]

I was looking for one someone had tried the product

[peak cloak]

the price difference between gigabit and 2.5 gig is crazy

[meager ginkgo]

I know.. I want 2gig fiber but at the same time I don't lol

[peak cloak]

might as well go for 10 gig

could be cheaper lol

[meager ginkgo]

AT&T only offers up to 5gig lol - and it's $180/mo vs $110/mo

[peak cloak]

might used gear

[peak cloak]

oh I thought you mean locally

[meager ginkgo]

nah, I don't do alot of local transfers

[peak cloak]

for like 130 you can get a 4 port sfp+ switch

not including transceivers tho

[heady dome]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393706927407?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110010%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.DISCCARDS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818141627%26meid%3D5e8318e900734b52ac07130914ae346e%26pid%3D101110%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D363808925072%26itm%3D393706927407%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2563228%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DNETGEAR&_trksid=p2563228.c101110.m1982&amdata=cksum%3A3937069274075e8318e900734b52ac07130914ae346e|enc%3AAQAGAAAA8JrJzuaKadledNTApmzM4F8tlulN5VFTlXHbKSbVQ1MuNjmgDT0d32JwJtFA4vp994zMlIxcj4JnpOiqEVsGY%252Bq6y40aQI2IqxgrHRbhIfk3BBao08KkVgKPMNJkL0jqvYly131K9hNfhEA7FK6ivVrQnH0bGbGrT%252B%252BiMh33dq5u%252F2snKNaVMmmUbPBbfYd0O8iKLnD5UEdQZm1rgOvZIEWJcuPIpMTGc7vh8lKqoyODBnzELpBAJl7PhsmCJooZQxsJakBhijpItXrax4y9aNy%252B5c7oKxBMSt9RjMuNeE1dcYKiyvbB%252BzyizDXdi2ySJw%253D%253D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2563228&epid=18012065970 10 G for just a bit more and ports good deal?

[meager ginkgo]

that isn't 10gig lan

only multigig wan

[peak cloak]

it has 8 x 1G, 2 x multi (10G)

[peak cloak]

technically there's no LAN/WAN on switches

[heady dome]

looks like this is the best value anyone use this before

[cosmic steeple]

i have 1 gib in to a s33 and a axe11000 but my parents are still buffing form 1 room away.

[meager ginkgo]

what device?

[cosmic steeple]

s33 m and axe1100 r

[meager ginkgo]

no what are your parents devices?

[cosmic steeple]

iphone 12 and a vizo tv

[royal estuary]

my dream switch is Cisco 3560CX-8XPD-S but it cost like 1k

[waxen scroll]

That's very specific

[waxen scroll]

My dream switch would be in the 100,000

[scarlet isle]

Looks like a Network server still in the hospital as it's being demolished

[knotty tartan]

You have to save it!!!

[scarlet isle]

I'm actually trying to get into contact with the hospitals technical guys

Like bruh they could've sold that to a company or something, it looks perfectly fine

[knotty tartan]

You'll have better luck slipping the construction crew $100 to let you haul it off.

[scarlet isle]

@knotty tartan i just got off the phone, I have to call back on Monday, I'll post a close-up in this chat, because maybe someone can identify them

[sour void]

Hi! If this is the wrong place to post this please let me know where it should be posted so I can move it elsewhere.

Hey, I've been having some massive issues with my internet for a while and I wanted to ask around to see what options I have first before trying to schedule appointments or what have you. I have XFINITY, and I've had to move my setup to a room where an ethernet cable can't reach, but since my computer is ethernet only (And the box is quite a ways away anyways), we've been using their wifi cube things to get internet to the room I'm in, and then plugging in an ethernet cord into that cube. Unfortunately though they...Really suck, or at least mine does? And we've talked to XFINITY and they say that our current plan doesn't support two boxes. We're already paying a ton for our highspeed internet (with an ethernet connection to the box, I have 150+MB download and 10+MB upload, but in my new room it drops drastically to less than 10MB download and like, 3-4MB upload) and we don't want to try and up our plan or deal with that

[clear igloo]

Those are all patch panels

[scarlet isle]

Hmmm okay

[meager ginkgo]

You could use MoCA to get Ethernet to where you want it, as long as u have a cable jack nearby the computer.

MoCA is Ethernet over coax

[royal estuary]

u could try powerline connection also

[royal estuary]

it small 12 port switch with 10g rj45 and sfp+ ports

[sour void]

To be quite honest, I don't know what you guys are talking about. I know about the insides of a computer but that's really about it-

[clear igloo]

but it's not, not really, they are combo ports, you get SFP+ and RJ45 on the model you listed, but you cannot use both at the same time and all the other ports are gigabit

[meager ginkgo]

do you have a cable port by your PC?

The same thing your modem would connect to

[royal estuary]

its not combo port

[clear igloo]

ah, looked at the wrong model by accident but still it's only 6 gigabit, 2 nbaseT 10g copper and 2 SFP, not 12 ports total

[royal estuary]

ya i dont need all to be 10g, for its price they should all be though

[sour void]

I don't have any cable ports in my room, no

This room is only connected by wifi

[royal estuary]

powerline or use a wireless repeater (u can use a repeater dont listen to comcast), powerline probably ur best bet to get most out of speed but u wont get full speed

[sour void]

What's a powerline, or wireless repeater

I know 0% about internet or networking

[royal estuary]

powerline uses ur mains power sockets

[meager ginkgo]

to deliver internet

I wouldn't really recommend a wireless repeater

[meager ginkgo]

they usually cut the speeds and increase range which is not what you want

[royal estuary]

repeater is like final option if everything else doesnt work

powerline is probably ur best bet, although ur unlikely to get full speed via them also

but better than what u have now, just remember the speed they say on the product, isnt the actual speed u get irl, so like read reviews to see what actual speeds are closer to

u can watch youtube video to see what powerline is and then just get some off amazon