networking

[soft totem]

with a crappy isp router and two tp links

[meager ginkgo]

Wifi extenders?

I would ditch those ASAP

[soft totem]

powerlines not just extenders

[meager ginkgo]

Are you in the US or another country

[soft totem]

uk

[meager ginkgo]

Ah. Power line is decent then there

[soft totem]

yeah, they work okay but its not enough at all

[meager ginkgo]

If you want wifi I'd recommend tp link omada or Ubiquiti

[soft totem]

ill check both out and thx for the advice

[meager ginkgo]

What's your budget?

[soft totem]

200-250 max

[meager ginkgo]

They can get expensive fast.. just keep that in mind

[soft totem]

yep- ive seen

[meager ginkgo]

But honestly if you only have 5-10 devices a mesh wifi system will probably be fine

[zenith meadow]

I have an ASUS AX-89X router, I have QoS off. However, on all my wi-fi devices it seems like my Download speed is throttled. I have 1gbps internet and it seems like my download is maxed around 280, whereas my upload can go all the way up to 800, on fast.com or speedtest.net

[meager ginkgo]

Is hardware offloading on?

[zenith meadow]

Anyone have any suggestions? It literally sounds like QoS to me but I have that setting off.

[soft totem]

true

[zenith meadow]

I believe so, isn't that a part of QoS? i guess I'll google where to find that in my asus menu

[meager ginkgo]

Hardware offloading just takes advantage of the hardware to deliver faster speeds. QoS is priority I believe

[zenith meadow]

Are you familiar with Asus routers? Or where that might be? LAN/Wan/Wireless ?

[peak cloak]

er-x needs hw acceleration for gigabit

[zenith meadow]

When I run a speedtest from a hardwired connection I get the full download speed.

[meager ginkgo]

I have no clue sorry.

[peak cloak]

which means no ipv6, since that's broken on hw

[meager ginkgo]

Ah it's not that then

[meager ginkgo]

They only need it for 350mbps internet i think they said

[peak cloak]

ah that's fine then

well it's a problem for me cuz intervlan

[meager ginkgo]

Lol. I need to upgrade to a UDM SE

I want that new unifi g4 doorbell pro

Currently using a TP-Link er605

[zenith meadow]

do most people see the same upload and download speed on a wifi devices usually?

[peak cloak]

it depends on your internet

[little schooner]

I don't

[zenith meadow]

Right, yeah I have 940 mbps up and down. Even hard-wired my upload speed is higher. I get like 800 down/940 up. But on wifi I get like 280 down, 600 up

I'm not sure why my download connection seems so much weaker. I'm right next to my router on wifi6

[hallow prawn]

yo my internet is only good at midnight and it sucks throughout the rest of the day how do i fix

[peak cloak]

ISP issue

congestion

[hallow prawn]

how do i fix that

[peak cloak]

you can't

complain to isp

well it could be wifi congestion as well, if you live in like an apartment

[zenith meadow]

No idea how to fix my download speed.

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo I want 10G switches 😩

[clear igloo]

why not 25G?

😄

[rocky badge]

bc 25G is overkill for this application lol

plus it's over existing CAT6

@clear igloo pls provide C9200L-48PXG-4X /s

[clear igloo]

No 😄

[reef sparrow]

Idk if this goes on networking, but my internet sometimes (quite alot) drop my upload speed to 0… i hear everything on discord when it does, but when i play valorant for eksample. I get disconected

[carmine moss]

saw some extreme networking switches under the ugly blue cisco switches. might buy some at some point used tbh

[subtle glen]

is trunking universal between different brands? Say between an HP and cisco switch

[peak cloak]

Trunking is a Cisco term

Really what it is is tagging all vlans

[zenith meadow]

I wonder if I should try to warranty my router

[rocky badge]

😡

[peak cloak]

So yeah vlans are standardized so yeah it's work inter vendor

[subtle glen]

i just came across this definition lol "In regards to the 802.1q question, yes, your switch does that, although HP calls this tagging as opposed to Cisco's trunking. "

alright thanks

[peak cloak]

Really trunking is all vlans tagged. You can tag only specific vlans if you want. Cisco's access is just untag

Tag / untag makes more sense imo

[subtle glen]

yeah i got used to that terminology with HP. Unfortunately i fried an HP switch, so back to cisco - HP

[rocky badge]

i prefer trunk and access port lol

Although I can work untagged/native & tagged

[subtle glen]

oh also, what's a management port?

[rocky badge]

out of band management/dedicated port for managing the device

So management is never over a port that is serving other traffic

[subtle glen]

my bad, i meant network monitoring port

[rocky badge]

Sends a copy of switch traffic over that port for monitoring and inspection by another host/server.

[subtle glen]

so hypotetically a grafana dashboard?

[rocky badge]

aka, port mirroring

[peak cloak]

I want to setup that on my network

[rocky badge]

Something like Wireshark

[peak cloak]

No?

You would hook something up to it to inspect packets

IDS perhaps, not sure exactly

[rocky badge]

Grafana just consumes data from Prometheus and such

[subtle glen]

i was thinking of overall statistics

[rocky badge]

For example, my school uses Extreme Analytics

it uses port mirroring to get traffic

[subtle glen]

but isn't such a port like a security risk?

[rocky badge]

it also does historical packet capturing and such

[peak cloak]

I mean sure? You can use smpt or whatever it's called for stats

[rocky badge]

Yes if done improperly

[peak cloak]

Hook it up to librenms

You can get traffic in/out, etc

[subtle glen]

guess ill stick with making the trunk thing work for now

[hollow marlin]

Until you get into the SP space get get to have fun with 802.1ad (QinQ) where not all VLAN tags are treated the same

[south blade]

How can I start to figure out this issue, I'm intermittently losing connection or something, connected over WiFi, I'm noticing because my movie from my Emby Media server stops, can't even access my AP or firewall config page, but Windows says I'm still connected. I'm just using LAN devices and media, I have no internet right now outside the city, so very annoying having to deal with reconnects multiple times watching a movie. edit: sigh actually it's probably more Windows 11 issues...

[feral wadi]

Would the topic of angular-cli be on topic with this channel?

Cause I need help setting stuff up with it

[slow pivot]

Probably more #development

[wanton coral]

Does anyone know if the new UDM PRO SE is coming to australia?

[peak cloak]

fun

[safe vessel]

trendnet seems to be the cheapest 2.5gb switch, is it decent or junk?

[sudden kayak]

trendnet in general is fine, don't know much about that particular switch but generally they do a decent job

[little schooner]

its alright, I have their gigabit poe+ switch

the gui is fine

[frigid sphinx]

so my network upgrade is mostly done... new ap's new switch, proxmox virtualised pfsense and omada sdn

next is iot wlan and some vlan shenanigans.

[thick minnow]

What brand APs did you get?

[plain siren]

How you liking the TP Link Omada so far?

[dense lily]

Hi..

I have an ISP-provided router with only one Gigabit Ethernet port.
I also have another old dual channel router with 4 Gigabit Ethernet ports and 1 WAN port. But it's dead (probably because I tried connecting a high wattage power brick).
Now I want to know if I can use the dead router as a network switch by connecting an ethernet cable from the ISP-provided router's ethernet port to the dead router, and then connecting my other devices to the dead router. (without connecting the dead router to power)
I'm assuming the "switch part of a router" is just a passive device like a USB HUB. Is that a stupid assumption..?

Appreciate any help.. Thanks..

[plain siren]

no

[slow pivot]

That will not work; switches require power to function properly. Even ethernet hubs required power

[plain siren]

Switches do active management and are not passive devies

Unlike a Telephone wire kek

[dense lily]

Thanks..

[plain siren]

srry 😦

[peak cloak]

Hubs are passive

But not switches

[waxen scroll]

passive how? hubs are powered and reproduce electrical signal

[peak cloak]

Just looked it up, they can be both

Passive or active

[thick minnow]

Just don’t use hubs

I probably sound like a Cisco Netacad shill but hubs are incredibly stupid in todays day and age

[clear igloo]

Hubs shouldn't exist in this day and age 😄

[thick minnow]

Exactly. Like, you can get a switch for the same price!

[clear igloo]

But it says hub/switch/port replicator/expander!!! 😄

[peak cloak]

yes they are

[thick minnow]

port replicator

[peak cloak]

switches are cheap

no reason not to use one

[thick minnow]

Yeah. Unless you’re purposely trying to create a collision domain

For whatever reason

[waxen scroll]

they should

I use a hub at home

RS-485 network

Serial of Things

[fervent yarrow]

hey guys. Decided to start a LanCache on my NAS since I have friends that come over frequently and I could get some benefit out of it, but all the tutorials im looking at online, make me feel like a Spaniard walking into Japan. I am completely out of my element, I dont understand anything, and I was just wondering if anyone had some good comprehensive guides that are possibly stupid people friendly to help me out lol.

Tried a couple different discords, tutorials and forums to no avail so im trying here now. Thank you guys for the help, its appreciated.

[plucky gull]

My knowledge is limited on lancache but what are you running for your NAS/firewall/router(s)?

like what is your topology?

[vestal sundial]

Install docker, download lancache docker-compose file, edit .env file to liking, start the container, point router dns to lancache. What stage is the struggle? Haven't used it personally but doesn't seem that bad

[plucky gull]

i think if you're totally new to docker in general it may be a bit ambitious

I think you may have other ways to improve your lan speeds before going to lancache too

[winter basalt]

anyone in here know pfsense?

i upgraded from 2.5.2 to 2.6.0 this morning and have lost internet since

i tried reinstalling 2.6.0 from scratch importing config, with defaults, and installing dev build 2.7.0

right now im trying to download 2.4.4

also if anyone knows where i can get a copy of 2.5.2 that would be great

[waxen saddle]

LANcache can have some unintended consequences that you’ll want to be advanced/comfortable enough to detect and mitigate. For example, I ran LANcache for a while and my frame rate dropped to about 1/3 where it should have been in 1 game. The fix? Have a particular URL related to the game not go through LANcache. Yes, it was a bizarre fix, but it worked.

AKA. Test it out, if anything goes wrong, undo the integration to see if LANcache is the culprit.

[plucky gull]

You should look at this but I think you'll need to start at 2.4.4 and upgrade. I think the upgrades will happen sequentially but I'm more familiar with Sophos UTM than pfSense https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/upgrade-guide.html

[winter basalt]

thanks for the reply but another discord provided me a link to a 2.5.2 image

which still didnt work

[plucky gull]

ah cool

ah darn

so what happens exactly when you try to restore the config, does it just fail?

[winter basalt]

everything restores fine

i have no WAN IP or Gateway

I called my ISP for the second time today (first time they said it was fine)

they had me plug in my laptop to the ONT (fiber termination box)

got nothing

no IP no Gateway no DNS

[plucky gull]

I remember when I had a similar issue i needed to unplug my modem for a solid 10 minutes and let the public ip address flush out/renew

if you have dhcp

[winter basalt]

yes

the guy cleared that on his end

still nothing

so he reconfigured the box so Port 2 was internet instead of Port 1

i had internet within 20 seconds

so somehow during the pfsense update the port died on the ONT

[plucky gull]

oh wow

what are the odds i guess

[winter basalt]

explains why it took 5 hours

nothing was probably wrong with my end

[plucky gull]

ISPs man

[winter basalt]

though i did look at the netgate forums and a few ppl reported the same issue

however their problems seem to be related to traffic limiters

which i dont use at all

[frigid sphinx]

@plain siren omada is pretty cool... I wish they'd done a little more integration around firmware updates particularly (having to download the device firmwares and upload to omada is kinda silly

[plain siren]

Ill take it over the risk of Auto Updates breaking shit and Exploited MITM Hacks/whatever at the moment

[frigid sphinx]

yeah... I get that.

I got pci passthrough to pfsense working...

so that's kinda neat. the nic's are independant pcie devices so you can map them however you like

[lyric tundra]

Hey is getting the plex pass worth it? Or should I stick to the free service it offers?

[unborn sluice]

Install free first

You'll know when you need the pass when you do

[lyric tundra]

i did that, but not sure if it's worth it. I wanna use plex on other devices like my phone and xbox

[unborn sluice]

Free version of the mobile doesn't suit you?

[lyric tundra]

i'm using it on web currently and it's going fine, but i kinda wanna run it on the mobile app. What do you think?

[unborn sluice]

Try the free mobile first

I have a Plex lifetime but for a different reason

[lyric tundra]

would you say it's worth the initial $120 investment?

[unborn sluice]

It's fine for me, but I'd suggest waiting for a promo

[lyric tundra]

there are promos for plex? didn't know that

[unborn sluice]

25% off for lifetime, but that's for Christmas

You'll need to decide to buy it now then refund if it's not suitable

[peak cloak]

since when is plex paid

[lyric tundra]

the plex pass

[peak cloak]

I just use jellyfin

[unborn sluice]

oh yea i remember, consider alternatives before buying into this lifetime thing
emby, jellyfin

[lyric tundra]

I looked at other platforms, and emby was the best, except for the fact that it was basically plex

so it was either emby vs. plex

[peak cloak]

huh, I found jellyfin the best

[unborn sluice]

we'll, we are here to suggest not to decide for you. so go with whatever you like

[lyric tundra]

it's the first I've heard of Jellyfin,

[lyric tundra]

alright, thank you for your help!

[thick minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaaFTtiYnaU

[peak cloak]

ok?

[unborn sluice]

ok?

[thick minnow]

As if this wasn’t true for the past 5 years

Would anyone else be in favor of making wiring POE to patch panels illegal

This is the second console laptop I’ve POE’d to death this week because someone keeps wiring POE to unlabeled patch panels

Rant over thanks for reading

[peak cloak]

passive poe I assume?

yeah that sucks

[thick minnow]

it's from aliexpress POE injectors

and they just blast out 57 volts

[thick minnow]

Can someone ELI5 what SD-WAN is?

[peak cloak]

Basically it can consist of using tunnels to connect various networks over the internet together.

Zerotier is an sd-wan implementation

[hollow marlin]

Mostly a buzzword. But it essentially allows enterprises to manage their networks through a single pane of glass. Uses tunnels (mostly with BGP/MPLS) behind the scenes to connect the sites and tunnel traffic where it needs to go. A lot of the time there is proprietary software for forwarding/routing which do not adhere to standards that allow for more advanced control over the traffic or even their own VPN protocol that has been performance and less overhead than say IPsec.

Essentially its install this box at each site, plug in your router/switch, tell the SD-WAN what you want it to do and let it do its thing.

[waxen scroll]

the adoption of it is also still low I think

[hollow marlin]

Yeah its still low and at times even dropping as they realize it cost more in the long run

[waxen scroll]

ciscos trying to sell us on it now and I keep saying "why?"

[peak cloak]

the main reason for it is just connecting sites right?

[waxen scroll]

I mean sure. The actual main reason is so you dont have idle circuits

you can also reduce the load of the internet at the datacenter by having some traffic go out the local internet connection

[rocky badge]

My school actually moved to SD-WAN 😳

[waxen scroll]

I dont think theres a point to a school doing it but I dont have the full picture

you can do SD-WAN by hand so you have to weigh that versus spending all this money on actual SD-WAN

[rocky badge]

it's ISP managed lol

[thick minnow]

So like a multi site to site VPN?

[peak prairie]

I'm consistently getting sub optimal results from my powerline adapter compared to a direct hardline connection, running a cable isn't practical for me right now. The Netgear Powerline 1000 I have is pretty old, about 5 years. Would a newer and "better" one get me better results Or is it squarely down to the electrical wiring?

[meager ginkgo]

What country are you in?

If you are in the US or Canada, MoCA networking is a good option

can get 2.5gb adapters

Just make sure you have coax/tv wiring in your house

[peak prairie]

I'm in Texas.
The house I'm in does have coax cabling but I don't want to or know how to mess with it.
I'll look for 2.5gbps Powerline adapters. Maybe that will get me some kind of improvement?

[meager ginkgo]

Powerline networking is very finicky, if you are having trouble with the one you have, you will probably have trouble with other ones.

It could work, but MoCA is a much better option.

It's not super hard to get hooked up either. You just have to locate where all the cables go, connect them together (usually with a splitter), then place a moca filter on the incoming line

and of course buy moca adapters

[peak prairie]

Ya... That sounds hard and labor intensive... Besides, it's not my house, I'm just renting a room here. Thank you for the tips though!

[meager ginkgo]

Ah, yeah if you're renting that's probably not gonna happen lol

[sudden kayak]

yeah honestly moca adapters tend to be a good bit more expensive than powerline (for no good reason lol)

[meager ginkgo]

MoCa can give you 2500mbps most of the time if you have good cable. Powerline is ok, but can get nowhere near the speed MoCA can.

MoCA is the second best option to Ethernet

[sudden kayak]

i mean there is also 2000mbps powerline, but both of those are theoretical maximum

if cost is no object then yeah moca is a bit faster and can come relatively closer to the theoretical max with good RF but ...... you're probably still limited by gigabit ethernet on either end

[meager ginkgo]

Moca adapters are about the same price as a good power line adapter. Only reason I'd see someone choose power line would be if they're renting or have a relatively low internet speed.

And they make 2.5gig Ethernet port moca adapters.

[sudden kayak]

idk i don't see any known brand moca adapters for less than like $150/pair

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QZS7SJV/

goCoax is a good brand.

[sudden kayak]

I'm not saying they're not good, just that I've never heard of them and they don't seem to make anything other than this particular adapter

[meager ginkgo]

All good. Just trying to explain.

[sudden kayak]

yeah fair 👍

i tend to recommend powerline but it could go either way depending on internet speeds and home wiring

[meager ginkgo]

Powerline is good for speeds under 300mbps I would say. MoCA is what i'd recommend after that if you can't or don't want to run CAT6a

MoCA depends on having RG6 in your house and knowing where it all goes

it's also the more complicated option

I've also found that alot of newer homes, have CAT5e or higher as telephone lines

and can be rewired to ethernet

[glossy condor]

you using Ethernet?

[meager ginkgo]

Is your provider a cellular provider for your internet?

[sudden kayak]

yeah DIY coax tends to be hard to get right

but moca is fantastic for houses that have it all wired up

[peak cloak]

wdym

[meager ginkgo]

Coax is easier to terminate than Ethernet IMO

[peak cloak]

honestly

[sudden kayak]

I've never seen non trained DIYers get it right without RF issues lol

[peak cloak]

I mean what's the proper way?

[meager ginkgo]

I think the proper way is to have the shield (white stuff) up to the top of the connector

[peak cloak]

I had to do a whole load of terminations back during a summer job, coax was much easier

[meager ginkgo]

Only issue I can see is cheap fittings

[peak cloak]

that's what I do

[meager ginkgo]

Ethernet doesn't suffer as much from that

[meager ginkgo]

you should be fine then

[sudden kayak]

mostly cheap tools

i don't bother doing it myself unless i have an employer paying for decent tools lol

[peak cloak]

wdym by decent tools

[meager ginkgo]

What does the tool have to do with it out of curiosity?

I get maybe crimping the connector on

I feel like quality connectors and the shield termination is the most important part

and of course cutting the copper down to the top of the coax connector

What country? In the US, cellular internet is usually deprioritized

meaning that if lots of people are using it, your speeds will suffer

your phone plan probably has "premium data"

Can you describe your complete setup?

is your pc connected to the ap or switch?

what ap?

[peak cloak]

wait

why an ap

do it directly to switch

[meager ginkgo]

I was about to ask that, but some APs have built in ethernet

like the Ubiquiti In Wall ones

what speeds are you seeing on the phone vs your pc

https://www.speedtest.net/ - for a quick reference

not the most accurate but will give me an idea

have you tried swapping the ethernet cable?

could also be QoS

[timid matrix]

helo

[meager ginkgo]

is the pc windows or mac?

10 or 11?

Ok, can you go to settings on the pc

then network & internet

tell me when you're there

do you see status?

do you see view your network properties?

[meager ginkgo]

should look like this once you press it

I'm on 11 so it's different, but I believe so

just verify your screen looks like that screenshot

do you see Link speed?

it should say 1000/1000

hmm

Silly question, but have you closed almost every program and stopped any downloads?

and what happens when you plug directly into the tmobile gateway?

ah. ok. I'm lost then

[timid matrix]

do you have any other device that has a Ethernet port on it that u can test with other than that computer?

[meager ginkgo]

oh also, has the computer always been slow or did it recently start

[timid matrix]

Hi again, i got this issue where my router from the isp [F609 in this case] wouldnt use my Deco M5's DHCP Server, if i tried to connect to the F609 it would just not give me the IP at all even tho i have the DHCP Server enabled on my Deco M5 , imt rying to achieve something like in the network diagram below

[peak cloak]

ISP router's IP from LAN?

I wouldn't expect it to get IP from DHCP on lan

[timid matrix]

from isp to my router its using fiber

[peak cloak]

yeah

router doesn't have DHCP client on LAN

[timid matrix]

wait what... so,,,, i cant just make it use my Deco's DHCP Server?

im kinda annoyed that if i put my Deco on access point mode, then it wouldnt have most of the features that i really like , like the DDNS for example

[plain siren]

Your ISP router doesnt have IP Bridge mode?

[peak cloak]

no

not the LAN interface IP

but the router in bridge mode if you can

so it's just an ONT

[timid matrix]

im not sure what this one does, but i made this new WAN Connection that i called custom-AP then just bind it to LAN1-4 and SSID 1-4

[peak cloak]

I hate ISP combos

[plain siren]

Ok, there we go

Disable NAT

[timid matrix]

done

[plain siren]

As for Network-Wan_Port Binding, set that to the Port the Deco is attached to I believe

Then Disable the Wi-Fi Modes

[timid matrix]

i have the deco attached to my switch as of rn, its on LAN4, on LAN4 it have my homeserver and the deco itself, shouldnt impact anything r8?

[timid matrix]

you mean access point mode on the deco?

[plain siren]

no, Disable Wi-Fi on the ISP router

Then you would enable normal Router mode on the Deco

The deco needs to be directly connected to the ISP Router

Then from there you connect the LAN Port of the Deco to the Switch

[timid matrix]

Ahh so i cant use anythign like switches or smthng like that to connect the deco?

[plain siren]

Does the Deco not have a WAN and LAN Port

[timid matrix]

yep im pretty sure it does

[plain siren]

Yeah then you would do ISP Router <> Deco <> Switch <> Server

[timid matrix]

so in that case, my ISP Router cant be used as an AP / Switch?

[peak cloak]

no

[timid matrix]

Well, damn

Anyway, thanks for the help

[somber estuary]

Hey! I have 2 IP cameras atm. I'm planning to route a cat cable to the floor below (garage) from my main LTE router to a second router the floor below in bridge mode and connect a poe injector switch to it. And connect my reolink cameras to the switch. The cameras will be located at the corners of the roof, soo, a floor above + the attic (The main router will be right above the second router in the garage right bellow, and the cameras will be in the attic right above the main lte router.
In the future, i'm planning to set up 4-5 cameras in total, soo, while I'm at it, im planning to route cat5e or cat6 cables to all the corners of the house, where I want to place the cameras.
The main question is.. Are there any POE switches at a reasonable price, that can be powered by poe?
Like, I would prefer, that I won't need to route 5 cat cables two and a half floors above. Would be awesome, if I could just route 1 cat cable to the attic, connect the poe switch there and from it, connect it to the cameras at the corners of the roof
And power the poe switch by 1 cable, that goes to the garage, by poe
Is that actually possible? Or, if yes, is it really expensive?
I don't have electricity in the attic, so, I think, that would be the best solution for me
Can anyone give me some suggestions or feedback regarding this?
The main thing I would gain is, that I would need to rout only one cable to the attic instead of 5

[cursive valve]

It would be hard to power multiple devices by Poe when you’re limited by Poe input

[somber estuary]

I'm not an artist, but I hope this helps :DDD

[somber estuary]

Soo, I should just route the 5 cables to the attic, right>

[cursive valve]

If you could get power to where you have the Poe switch then you can find one for like <50

[somber estuary]

Or, a AC cable that powers a poe switch and then connect the poe switch to the router

[cursive valve]

That

An ac cord and a eth cable to attic would work. I’d look for a more industrial switch if it will be in the attic, don’t want to start a fire.

[rocky badge]

Ubiquiti has a USW Flex that’s like 90W PoE in via injector or 802.3bt switch. Which supplies a lot of power to the ports.

[somber estuary]

Yeah, that was my main worry

[rocky badge]

I think some other brands have switches that can supply that much power but idk any off the top of my head

[somber estuary]

https://apsardze24.lv/en/produkti/6-portu-tikla-komutators-4-poe-porti-48v-2up-link-100mbs-jauda-60w/
https://apsardze24.lv/en/produkti/9-portu-tikla-komutators-8-poe-porti-48v-1uplink-100-mbps-jauda-120w/

These ones ar probably really crappy, right?

[cursive valve]

That would be enough for your use, I’d check the ratings for it( temp operating range). Ubiquiti is usually sold out on their cheaper products. @somber estuary

[rocky badge]

Well they are 100Mbps lol, but for security cameras ehh

[somber estuary]

I could just buy a reolink nvr, that has poe ports. But I think, that I should better save up some more and buy a synology nvr, that can run as a nvr and run home assistant

*nas

[somber estuary]

Buying a ubiquiti one would be too expensive. As from what I can tell, they go for 170eur+

The reolink with poe built in costs 265e

https://reolink.com/product/rln8-410/

Soo, In that case, the NVR would seem like a better/cheaper option

[cursive valve]

I found a 3 pack for 130usd today

[somber estuary]

From my quick search, looks like the ubiquiti poe switch that could fit my use case starts from 270e

[cursive valve]

How many cameras

[somber estuary]

atm, I have 2 4k IP cameras. But later on, I plan to have 5 max

[cursive valve]

Should be fine at 90w

What cameras do you have?

[somber estuary]

But while I'll be up in the attic, ill run the cat to all the points where the cameras are planned to be set

https://reolink.com/product/rlc-810a/

This one and....

https://reolink.com/product/rlc-510a/

Later on, ill probably add one or two of these: https://reolink.com/product/rlc-812a/

and the 810a

[cursive valve]

All look like under 12 w

And within spec for unifi

https://store.ui.com/products/usw-flex-mini

This lilboi

[somber estuary]

Looks so, even the one with the floodlight built in is rated at 12w

[somber estuary]

Oh, so this once can be powered by poe, right?

[cursive valve]

Yes

You might have to by one of their Poe++ injectors if it doesn’t come with one

[somber estuary]

To power it front the garage, right?

Soo, if i'll connect 5 cameras max, that means 60w

[rocky badge]

That one doesn’t power cameras

[somber estuary]

Soo, the poe injector in the garage should be 60w+ right?

[rocky badge]

It’s PoE in, no out

[somber estuary]

And does this deliver the 48-60w?

[somber estuary]

Ohh....

Soo, just a regular switch that is powered by POE

soo, that wouldn't do anything in my situation

[rocky badge]

Yeah, usw flex is the only one that’s PoE in and out

Not the mini

[somber estuary]

Looks like I'll just need to buy one of the poe switches I sent before, put them in a metal box, incase they catch on fire and route 5 cables to the attic.

from the garage

At the end, it will probably be cheaper, easier and safer

[cursive valve]

https://store.ui.com/products/poe-54v-80w-edgepoint

[cursive valve]

Mini can do both according to the specs

[cursive valve]

http://dl.ui.com/ds/usw-flex-mini_ds.pdf

[somber estuary]

Wouldn't want to put a no-name poe switch in the attic, with very dry wood and wood shavings around

[cursive valve]

You’d be limited to 4 cams @somber estuary

Ubiquiti is decent been around a while

[somber estuary]

Yeah, I could trust ubiquiti

but..

[somber estuary]

These ones I sent..

[cursive valve]

I’d sink 60 bucks into it instead of a 150+ switch

[somber estuary]

I could run them in the garage, where nothing can catch on fire

But, It would be quite sketch to run one of those in the attic

[rocky badge]

It cannot

🤪I have one

[cursive valve]

Why ui lie

They would

First take away the junk chat support

[rocky badge]

I don’t see anywhere on the data sheet it does PoE out

[somber estuary]

I can't find any info about poe out

Just input

[cursive valve]

Bleh

[rocky badge]

A switch with PoE out

The usw flex mini

[cursive valve]

It’s bed time

[rocky badge]

Go little switch go

[cursive valve]

There be no out

I was gonna say

[rocky badge]

1.5TB to my clients

[somber estuary]

Do you guys have any recommendations for a NAs, that would work as NVR for the cameras, run home assistant and plex?

[rocky badge]

And hallway AP doing half a TB 💀

[somber estuary]

As the reolink nvr costs 265e

I think it would be better to save some more, and get a NAS, that can work as a nvr, run a docker with home assistant on it, run plex and work just as a regular NAS

What would be the best/cheapest NAS for my use case?

ATM, i'm running Home Assistant on a Rpi4b and plex from my PC, but that means, it needs to be on when I want to use plex.

So would be awesome, If I could run all that, and record the IP camera video on one device. I had considered to just buy a used office pc, but i'm not sure if that would be the best solution

And for the POE, looks like I'll rather run the 5 cables to the attic from a relatively cheaper poe switch instead of balling out on a hig end one that I could put in the attic

[waxen saddle]

Do you need to record video 24/7/365? or could you get away with only recording motion, and during specific times of the day?

[somber estuary]

ATM, i'm only recording motion, but I would like the option to record it 24/7 and save the videos for a few days

But again, I have no Idea how that would affect everything

and how powerful the nas/pc should be

[cursive valve]

The small one

[waxen saddle]

Constant recording is enough of an interesting problem that entire hard drive lines are created, purpose-built for use in NVR's.

[cursive valve]

I’ll defer to corewyyn on this one

[rocky badge]

Oh god constant recording lol

[somber estuary]

I probably don't need constant recording

[rocky badge]

At school we have over 700 cameras recording 24/7/365 to 3 NVRs… they save for a week.

[waxen saddle]

Eh. I'm nowhere near an expert. I just happen to know that constant recording is quite a burden on drives.

[rocky badge]

It’s so much data.

[somber estuary]

Just thought that it would be cool to have, as I haven't had one before

[waxen saddle]

Totally understand ^

[cursive valve]

I always defer to blob lol

I have like 10 security cams

[rocky badge]

Camera network is basically its own switches now…

Because it’s so many cameras going back to a single IDF

[cursive valve]

I only secure the network and servers

[waxen saddle]

For me, I have 2x 4k cameras that record medium-detected motion at night. Yep. It picks up cats. But I really don't care about the 95% of the time that absolutely nothing is going on.

[somber estuary]

From what I have red, a lot of users have had success with the Synology DS918+

running kodi or plex/ home assistant and nvr for cameras

[waxen saddle]

...and by record, they just save it via FTP to my NAS.

[somber estuary]

But, that seems quite expensive, soo

Any other options you guys can suggest?

that are cheaper

[rocky badge]

These freaking NVRs stack lol

The management interface is only on the main one and the 2nd and 3rd one just connect to the 1st one to share their storage.

[somber estuary]

I could turn up the sensitivity for the motion detection and that would prob be more than enough

Even now, with the sensitivity set to med, I get detections when there is strong wind or snow

[somber estuary]

Like, when the trees are moving from the wind or there is quite a lot of snow

[waxen saddle]

Sounds like a basic SAN.

[somber estuary]

And atm, the camera is placed on my windowsill

soo, there would be less false detections when I'll place the camera in the spot near the roof

[rocky badge]

Basically

[waxen saddle]

I have a little QNAP TS-332X. It's a basic NAS, but i didn't buy it to host anything other than file-system level stuff. Originally it was an iSCSI target for my VM server, but I can't be bothered to spend $600+ for a battery backup for extended outages. So you can imagine what happened when my basic 1.5-hour-long-battery-backup ran out of juice...

So I re-architect-ed and now it's my VM backup destination. VM's (including my docker VM's) are hosted on my VM server.

Don't need much for a Vm server.. I have 24 GB of RAM on mine and I bought the desktop-class computer second-hand for $300.

[somber estuary]

Price wise, its almost 3 times cheaper than the synology one I posted before.

Would it be enough to run home assistant, plex and work as a nvr?

[waxen saddle]

No. I don't host stuff on ARM processors. So I can't recommend it for your use-case.

...but know that if you can get creative with how you architect things, you might be able to realize a slight cost-savings.

[somber estuary]

If i would go the used business pc route, what would be the main requirements for it to work in my use case?

[waxen saddle]

Would a cheap computer you have lying around work as a server? Then yea, the TS-332X might be perfect. Slap 3 NVR-class drives in there and record to your hearts content. Also throw in 1 or 2 NVME drives for super fast access for hosted apps.

[somber estuary]

Like, buying a used pc, throwing in a new gold psu

add some hdd's

At least cpu wise, what would be the recommended spec?

I'd prob need a crappy gpu too, for plex transcoding

I could get a 1050ti for like a 100bucks

A couple of tb in hdd's

What would be the recommended cpu for a computer with that use-case? And at the least, how much ram would it require? Prob, no need for the ddr4 ones too, right? DDR3's would be enough for this kind of pc, used for the things I mentioned before. Right?

Would be awesome to run Plex, HomeAssistant, IP cam NVR and a VM or two for sandboxing and local web dev testing/hosting on that one server.
But I have no idea on what the recommended requirements for the server should be, for it to be able to run all of that

Any TechTips would be highly appreciated. 😄

[craggy crater]

Anyome know why my pc will occasionally be unable to connect with or disconnect from 5ghz wifi connections? using a tp link archer t4e ac1200 pci card atm. It sees the network, but fails to connect, sometimes disabling and reenabling card works, other times I have to reboot router. none of my other devices or computers get disconnected

[peak prairie]

I mentioned MoCA networking to my roommates/landlords and they seemed receptive to it. It's been exceedingly difficult to find a reference that explains exactly how it works. How do two conductors communicate with the web and simultaneously send an internet signal to the other nodes in the home? Do you have a reference you can link me to?

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.instructables.com/How-to-set-up-a-coax-MoCA-network/

That might help, if you still have questions let me know. I'll be on later

[charred sundial]

hey guys, I'm getting 1gbps on my home internet through ethernet however I'm only getting 400mbps through wifi using 5ghz

[meager ginkgo]

You will never get full speed over wifi

That's why people recommend hardwiring devices

You can rarely get full gigabit over wifi, but it requires an expensive AP and a good client device

[charred sundial]

but it isn't even that close to 1gbps and I'm right next to it and on 5ghz

[meager ginkgo]

Your router needs to be upgraded

[charred sundial]

oh right, so I'm guessing my generic provider ap is at fault

it probably can't handle 1gbps

[meager ginkgo]

If you want to get full gigabit, get a wifi 6 or wifi 6e ap

And make sure you have a compatible device

[charred sundial]

okay I'll look into that

[meager ginkgo]

The U6-Pro is a good AP

Or the U6-Enterprise which is in early access

[peak cloak]

basically what happens is that you have DOCISS for cable right? DOCISS and MOCA for the most part work on different frequencies. So you would have your modem as usualy, but then you can feed moca back into the coax network. One thing you want to be aware of tho is to put a moca filter before it goes to ISP or you will be causing issues

[peak prairie]

Thank you for the tip!

[sudden kayak]

yeah please use a filter 😬

[peak prairie]

Noted. Is it just for security or will the ISP be angry at me as well?

[sudden kayak]

yeah we'll be mad (theoretically it could help security but that's not the big concern)

[peak prairie]

So, I get that the filter goes between the house and the street. With this, do I use a splitter to connect the modem and adapter? Then from the router to the ethernet port on the adapter? This method of networking is soooo weird...
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/screenbeam-moca-2-5-network-adapter-for-ethernet-over-coax-2-pack-2-5-gbps-coax-to-1-0-gbps-ethernet-adapter-black/6424459.p?skuId=6424459

[peak cloak]

I believe? I'm not too familiar with coax either

[peak prairie]

Why isn't there a techquickie on this!?!?!? Video suggestion?

[meager ginkgo]

Don't buy from bestbuy if you can

That amazon one I sent is better and decently cheaper

Filter, MoCA POE for Cable TV & OTA coaxial Networks ONLY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KO5KHSQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_2E2093758Z0TM454X1ED

This is a moca filter, the others are talking about. Cheap and just goes on the incoming cable line into the house

[waxen scroll]

since tekquickie pushes pfsense I dont trust them for moca

[meager ginkgo]

@peak prairie it would also help to see how the cables are connected. Usually it's in a panel in the house somewhere or outside where the utility hookup is.

[peak prairie]

I use a pfSense router and works great for me... Not sure what you're talking about. @waxen scroll

[peak cloak]

pfsense is generally considered as not great in the networking

kinda a meme

[meager ginkgo]

What do people prefer? Opnsense?

[peak cloak]

Dedicated Router Hardware, Vyos, RouterOS, opnsense I guess too but thats also very similar to pfsense

[meager ginkgo]

I really want a UDM SE but so expensive

[peak prairie]

What makes the other router OS's "better"?

[peak cloak]

more powerful, actual cli, etc.

[south blade]

Archer C7 v2, supposed to be setup as AP, do I have to disable the Firewall and NAT on it?

[sudden kayak]

if it's in AP mode those should already be disabled

[south blade]

Well, doesn't have an AP mode exactly, instructions online just say to not use WAN, disable DHCP, setup static IP outside DHCP, that's about it...

so can I disable all this?

[sudden kayak]

then yeah you just want to disable all of those

[chrome adder]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask this, but i have a 100mbit connection in my apartment. My computer connected with ethernet speedtests around 95mbit which is what is should be. But my phone connected with wifi gets speedtest results over 400mbits. is there a reason for this? is it a glitch or something

[meager ginkgo]

Most likely a glitch

[peak cloak]

so same router?

phone connected to wifi of the router, and PC to the same router?

if so, I bet it's the cable

the speed of ethernet cable specs goes in steps, 10BASE-T, 100BASE-T, 1000BASE-T

100 mbps only requires 4 wires in a cable

1000 requires 8, which is what any ethernet cat5e+ properly made provides

[chrome adder]

isnt 95mbps what its supposed to be though?

the pack i bought from the isp is for 100down/20up

my phone reads around 250-400 depending on the time

across multiple test pages

[peak cloak]

ISP misconfiguration maybe

[winter basalt]

make sure mobile data is off

[rocky badge]

@meager ginkgo @waxen scroll My ISP now offers 10 gig now

[meager ginkgo]

Nice. No 10g upload though

[rocky badge]

They only do symmetrical uploads up to 500Mbps 😐

[meager ginkgo]

Damn

[rocky badge]

50/50, 500/500, 1Gig/500, 2Gig/1Gig, 10Gig/5Gig

[meager ginkgo]

That sucks

[winter basalt]

to be fair for most people 500/500 is more than enough

even if you run some dedicated game servers or plex for your friends

my ISP does have 1G/1G however

but the next step down is 100/100

[main sorrel]

Any clue what this unknown{numbers and letters}.attlocal.net client I’m seeing in my pihole logs is, and why the hell it’s trying to do a DNS lookup for Facebook every few seconds? Further, how can I get it to NOT do this nonsense? I do have ATT as my ISP (and no other ATT services) so I’m assuming it’s coming from my modem, but I don’t really know what it’s doing or why (other than the assumption that it’s some nefarious advertising purpose, which seems fairly obvious)

[worthy orbit]

my ISP was either 1g/1g or 200m/20m

[peak cloak]

I assume att router gives those to local IP s

[clear igloo]

The number/letters is the MAC of the device iirc for Pihole, too short to be an IPv6 address based on what you've blurred out

[main sorrel]

Good call — It’s the MAC of my UniFi dream machine, actually, not the pi. Which is slightly more confusing, I have to say.

[clear igloo]

Yah, that's really odd. Is the Dream Machine acting as a DNS server/relay perhaps for something else?

or perhaps it's using facebook to check for connectivity to the internet, not 100% sure since I've not used UniFi stuff before

[main sorrel]

No. The pi running pihole is the DNS, and I have google configured as a secondary if the pi fails or something. Connectivity is possible and probably more likely. I know there was an issue with things if you were blocking Facebook while trying to update the network application recently. On the other hand. It definitely knows I’m still connected to the internet just fine. So I’m really not sure. I’m in the unofficial Ubiquiti discord server as well, so i’ll ask in there. Thank you! I wouldn’t have recognized that as a MAC and probably would have called ATT to yell at them. I was convinced the router/modem was setting up a local domain or something for me with social media “features”

[clear igloo]

Haha, yah, sometimes it can be tricky to tell. Let me know what the other discord says, I'm curious now

[rocky badge]

They shouldn’t

It should be using ping.ubnt.com or ping.ui.com

Unless you set something other in settings

[obtuse cove]

Hi i need help with my 5G Mobile WiFi E6878-370 i was getting about 135 to 140MB/s on my pc using a USB 3.1 cable for the last month and it was working fine but now i got lees than 1MB/s using the cable and around 25MB/s using the Wi-Fi can you help?

the Wi-Fi sucks so hard for gaming and the cable cant even run a 480P video from YouTube let alone downloading games from steam

[south blade]

I don't know this device but do you got another cable to try? Since it's 5G does it say it has a good connection? Could it be the time you're trying to use it and usage of other users causing tower congestion?

[high widget]

hallo

[lavish silo]

Hello people!

I want to set up a Family Photo server for my older Family members, so they can always access our family photos on phone.

How would I do that?

I heard that Plex is a good idea, but their website is very confusing, cause it's all about movie streaming there.

[low pond]

If you want to do more of a photo/cloud storage thing then nextCloud is better for this use case

They have an easy app for android and ios, you could directly access all photos from mobile devices too, or the web interface

[lavish silo]

I assume it's not free to use?

[low pond]

Uhh, nextcloud is more open than plex will ever be lol

[lavish silo]

is that a yes or no

[low pond]

Yes it is free

Why don't you check online :P

[lavish silo]

So yeah

Nextcloud looks interesting

[pulsar thorn]

I’ve been hosting my own nextcloud server for a year now and it’s great

Also has webrtc based video and text chat if you wanna try and set that up

[lavish silo]

Ive been looking into tutorials, but many of those requiere a domain

I just want to selfhost my data

[pulsar thorn]

Do you host any websites?

[lavish silo]

No. I just want a family storage, so the people who only use a phone and no pc can access my selfhosted storage

[pulsar thorn]

Yeah I know, you can selfhost it really easily, you just need to make sure your internet is fast enough that it doesn’t feel slow

[lavish silo]

1gigabits/sec should be fast enough

[pulsar thorn]

That’s more than plenty lol

[lavish silo]

So I just install the desktop client then?

[pulsar thorn]

You need to set up a server to use the desktop client

[lavish silo]

[pulsar thorn]

It is just a website

[lavish silo]

Let me find a good tutorial first.

[pulsar thorn]

https://nextcloud.com/install/#instructions-server

[pulsar thorn]

Good idea

[pulsar thorn]

If you have any issues feel free to @ me or DM me

[lavish silo]

If I install the VM, I cant run other software in parallel on the win10 anymore, sadly

right?

[pulsar thorn]

What will you be running it on?

[lavish silo]

I want to convert my old workstation into that. it's a pretty good PC by todays standards. A i7 6700k, 32 gigs of ram, rtx 2070S and a NVME m.2 ssd.

[pulsar thorn]

Oh damn that’s beefy

[lavish silo]

I would like to run renders in parallel to the server hosting

[pulsar thorn]

I’d either run with the VM in windows or install Linux on it

Uhh VM it is then

[lavish silo]

Let's see.

But thanks for your help already

[pulsar thorn]

I was in the same situation once, i get it lol

[lavish silo]

@pulsar thorn Got a second?

The VMware software is having an error that virtualization is disabled. But I enabled it in the bios and it's still showing me this error.

[pulsar thorn]

huh that's odd

[lavish silo]

In my bios I have enabled intel vt-d

Is it maybe because my chip does not support vt-x?

[pulsar thorn]

I'm pretty sure it should support virtualisation

[carmine moss]

windows turn features on!

[lavish silo]

[pulsar thorn]

worth a shot ig

[carmine moss]

windows has it off by default

[lavish silo]

If I google that it always brings me to the bios.

Where do I enable it in windows

oh wait, I got it

[lavish silo]

yeah.

hyper-v right?

[carmine moss]

yep that needs a few things to be on

[lavish silo]

What else? @carmine moss

the thing is, I have no hyper-v on my list

[carmine moss]

virtual machine platform and windows hypervisor platform might be needed also

you on windows 10 home or windows 10 pro?

[lavish silo]

home

[carmine moss]

you need pro....

[pulsar thorn]

usually it's just enable Virtualisation in BIOS and you're good to go

[pulsar thorn]

not for vmware and virtualbox

[lavish silo]

weird.

let me enable hypervisor too

what about "Subsystem for linux"?

[pulsar thorn]

nope

that's just a linux command line that you can run in windows

[lavish silo]

not workin.

[pulsar thorn]

try virtualbox?

[lavish silo]

I am completely new to VMs and all that.

You mean virtualbox.org?

[pulsar thorn]

yeah

gonna get some sleep, if you wanna flood my inbox with questions that's all good lol

[lavish silo]

oh my...
that program also gives me an error
Not in a hypervisor partition

[pulsar thorn]

oh ffs

[lavish silo]

lemme try something

one second.

[pulsar thorn]

https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/how-to-install-nextcloud-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-wsl-windows-10.html

if virtualbox doesn't fix itself

[lavish silo]

it still tells me that vt-x is disabled in the bios

[pulsar thorn]

maybe your pc really doesn't support it :(

[lavish silo]

cant beeeeee

[pulsar thorn]

last resort is windows subsystem for linux

if that doesn't work we gotta install linux

[lavish silo]

OMG

i found another feature

in my Bios

under the CPU tab

[pulsar thorn]

my fingers are crossed

[lavish silo]

what's better, virtualbox or vmware?

or does it not even matter

[pulsar thorn]

different company

i use virtualbox but only because I'm on a mac

[lavish silo]

it works!

[pulsar thorn]

yayyyy

that saves a lot of stress

I'll leave you to it, just message me or ask here if you have any issues

good luck!

[lavish silo]

okay, thanks

[lavish silo]

The VM is set up, do I download the client now?

[lavish silo]

It just shows me the Ubuntu default page NVM i got it

I need to get an encryption module Got one.

[elder vine]

When you logon to a server but can't help but have the echo of "nice..." when you read the ram usage...

[rough yew]

I am wanting to run 150 ft of outdoor cat7 around the house but every review of cat7 connectors is a horror story

debating doing keystones or just putting a regular end on it and running the cable long enough into both rooms.

[clear igloo]

Get burial rated Cat6a, Cat7 that doesn't use TERA connectors isn't in spec anyway and since 99% of it is lower quality stuff marketed as "Cat7" for money don't bother with it. Just make sure any Cat6a doesn't have people saying it's CCA cable

[rough yew]

Any suggestions on actual products? There are hundreds on here with reviews all over the place.

On Amazon

[meager ginkgo]

Keystones are the best IMO. on both ends. One end a patch panel the other end keystone wall plates.

[clear igloo]

TrueCable is a solid brand from what I remember, or monoprice but I've not seen them sell outdoor burial cable before

[rough yew]

TrueCable makes ya buy 500 feet

already looked at that one

[clear igloo]

Another option is to run conduit outside and use regular cable instead if it's cheaper that way

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah agree with Lurick there. Conduit allows for future proofing aswell

[rough yew]

I like conduit but really already have cable lines running along the sides so I figured I would just clip it up there.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PFYBG6B/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1Z99WVI0R6FNU&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Adoreen-Heavy-Duty-Shielded-Waterproof/dp/B097GFFMNL/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=1MBZU49HSJEOR&keywords=cat6a%2Boutdoor%2B150%2Bft&qid=1645983548&s=electronics&sprefix=cat6a%2Boutdoor%2B150%2Bft%2Celectronics%2C81&sr=1-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQjNLTFEzSlJKUkFEJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDM2MTkwUlFETkVPTkZEWVFJJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0MTg0NjgyR0RJT0EyVVBXVE4zJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

[clear igloo]

Yah, in that case you really don't have much choice in terms of length from what I see. Almost everyone sells 500ft or 1000ft spools for outdoor applications sadly
Anything that's CCA is EXTREMELY prone to breaking at the slightest issue, not in spec, and cannot be used for PoE or anything either

[meager ginkgo]

It may be cheaper to use MoCA if you have coax lines, then you also don't have to run a cable.

[clear igloo]

What speeds are you looking for anyway? gigabit or 10 gig?

[rough yew]

may as well do 10 gig in case I get new stuff one day.

I have a gigabit router currently. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-RT-AX3000-802-11ax-Lifetime-Whole-Home/dp/B084BNH26P/ref=sr_1_4?crid=274LJYYIS5OLZ&keywords=asus+wifi+6&qid=1645984020&s=electronics&sprefix=asus+wifi6%2Celectronics%2C102&sr=1-4

[meager ginkgo]

Have you considered using MoCA? It would probably be fine for your needs. They have 2.5gig adapters with 2.5gig Ethernet ports, you can also avoid running new cable.

[rough yew]

I actually had that pulled up earlier too. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/screenbeam-moca-2-5-network-adapter-for-ethernet-over-coax-2-pack-2-5-gbps-coax-to-1-0-gbps-ethernet-adapter-black/6424459.p?skuId=6424459

You talking about that.

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, do you have cable tv/coaxial wiring in the location where the router is/where you want a port?

[rough yew]

I do but it is old and runs half the distance

I was gonna use the current hole already in the wall for ethernet

[meager ginkgo]

Ah yeah. Ethernet is probably better in your case then

[clear igloo]

And Cat6 won't work since you'd be at or right up to the limit at ~150 feet for 10GbE

I'd honestly just get a 500ft roll of Cat6a and have the extra compared to trying to find a 200ft roll and deal with all that (cutting the ends, recrimping, risking getting junk cables, etc)

[rough yew]

It is actually 112 ft if you want to be exact to the ft, but I may as well buy 150 since it comes in 50ft increments.

[clear igloo]

Yah, everything I'm seeing below the 500ft spools is like CCA, Cat6 or Cat5e, or pretty dodgy to begin with

If you can find some Cat6 outdoor rated that's not CCA around 150ft and cut it down then you would be within spec by about 15m (roughly) for 10G so it should work later on. Cat6 can do about 50-55m for 10Gbps provided no issues/damage/etc.

[meager ginkgo]

celertec CAT6 Outdoor Cable, 500ft, 23AWG Solid Bare Copper, Unshielded Twisted Pair (UTP), UV Resistant, Weatherproof, Waterproof, CMX, ETL Listed, 550MHz, Bulk Ethernet Cable, Wooden Spool- Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087Q56TL6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_5DQYZ0C0AGZ5Y55GJAQD?psc=1

This looks decent

[clear igloo]

Yah

[chilly rock]

Just a quick question, I want to setup webdav on my windows server but im not sure how is there any software or anything I can use?

[plain siren]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/iis/install/installing-publishing-technologies/installing-and-configuring-webdav-on-iis#enabling-webdav-publishing-by-using-iis-manager

[tender hazel]

btw, don't know if you people have seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT1EWteOpTc

MikroTik dual 25Gbps NIC for servers with built in CCR2004 router

$200 USD MSRP

so for around the same price as a 25Gbps NIC (or even cheaper, depending on the brand) you can get both a NIC and a router

[waxen saddle]

That's crazy

[plain siren]

Initeresting. Same CPU found in QNAP NAS' and Ubiquiti UniFi USW-Leaf

This thing has some niche use cases thats for sure

[tender hazel]

it can be used as a firewall to protect VMs.. it can be used to terminate VXLAN right on the router instead of needing to fuss with it in VMware itself or proxmox or whatever

and honestly I did some searches and I can't find any 25Gbps nics that are that inexpensive

it is so inexpensive that I would be tempted to get one for my desktop, although that runs windows and I have no idea if it would even be compatible with windows

[plain siren]

VXLAN, Firewall, VPLS, VPN etc was my first thought

[plain siren]

wonder if it supports SR-IOV

[low pond]

The nearest Mellanox one comes at like 260+ IIRC with dual 25Gbit, and that's only an "NIC"

[tender hazel]

yeah.. for these virtualization servers like ESXi or proxmox, it makes a great deal of sense

[frigid sphinx]

it would be nice if it presented a ton of 10Gbe pci nic's

then you could passthrough pci in the virtualiser.. but.. you'd need some odd... controller group stuff

[plain siren]

Meanwhile over at intel

[wooden arch]

I want to build a server for all my photos that I can access (upload and view ) from anywhere (including outside the network). anyone have any suggestions to point me in the right direction? I also have a raspberry pi zero sitting around, can that be used?

[low pond]

nextCloud

[wooden arch]

thanks

[timid matrix]

Hey, i got this strange issue where windows wouldnt use the DNS Server that i added, it would still use my router's default DNS , any idea why it wont work?

[timid matrix]

oh and also, with cloudflare's warp app, the DoH would work fine, but still i cant use my Pi.hole with its custom local dns stuff

[low pond]

You have 192.168.1.68 as first priority

Either turn that down the list or remove it

[timid matrix]

yeah thats what i wanted, but windows wouldnt actually use any of the preferred DNS Server that i have added to the list

[low pond]

From what you sent, the most highest priority is 192.168.1.68, so it will always use that

[meager tapir]

How can I get free ipv6 dedicated ip

[low pond]

Either from your ISP, if not, use free tunnel like tunnelbroker.net

Requires a bit of setup but it's "free" in case your ISP doesn't natively support it for any reason

[meager tapir]

They do but it's not static

I need a static ipv6

[low pond]

Tunnelbroker is static and free, but you need to do some manual setting up

[meager tapir]

What setup

[low pond]

For the tunnel 😛
http://tunnelbroker.net

[tender hazel]

my ISP gives "dynamic" ipv6 and I've been using it for like a year and my prefix hasn't changed yet

so you might give it a try and see how solid your prefix lease ends up being because it might be quite usable

[timid matrix]

yea but the issue is ,its not using 192.168.1.68, its using the DNS that my router have provided, not the 192.168.1.68 where my pihole is hosted on

the result is the first nslookup, which should looks like hte 2nd nslookup

[clear igloo]

And a lead time of November which is pretty nice

[clear igloo]

Yah, most sane providers keep it bound to your modem/ONT/etc but then there's spectrum 😄

[peak cloak]

well, setting up the tunnel..

router-advert

firewall

[thick minnow]

Hi, everybody,
I'm a networking hardware newbie and am looking to build my own router. I'd appreciate recommendation for good value components. Specifications below:

My connection from the ISP is < 1 GB speed and I don't have much of a use for a fast wired connection over LAN - that would just be a nice-to-have.

I don't really have a budget but would ideally like to spend tops maybe a few tens USD, but beyond the Techquickie video about DIYing a router IDK about component prices for a DIY router. And ideally I'd like something that has a good value proposition and not pay for more than what I need

[misty warren]

if you're just building a linux box, any pc from the last 20 years with pcie will be fine. 1g nics are like sub $20 and you can probably toss in a wireless card/dongle supported by hostap for sub $30

in general, routers dont require a lot of resources

you either need 2x ethernet interfaces or a deep desire to use vlans and a switch that supports them

motherboard build in interfaces are fine

[plain siren]

An Allwinner ARM Chip does well as a base board

[thick minnow]

Hi

im building a network everything works but i only need to terminate the cables to keystones to put in a patch panel. Anyone have any tips to make me do it fast? im really slow now

I use cat6a

[thick minnow]

looks like this how

[idle karma]

Hi
Can I use my earth-1010 modem as repeater ?

[waxen scroll]

Sounds like you're not using a punchdown tool o_o It should not be that slow

theres also more expensive keystones from panduit or others that dont require a punchdown but its some special tool they need

70% faster though!

[thick minnow]

I don’t have a tool

I just use my hands

[peak cloak]

bruh, you should

makes it so much easier

[thick minnow]

I’m not rich 🥲

And my dad won’t buy me one lmao

[carmine moss]

that's a really small networking closet tho it looks clean

[peak cloak]

it's like 10 bucks

you have a UDM

[carmine moss]

i know my patch panel is bad. i just use coupler keystones tho half my keystones don't click in. at least 12 keystones are good of the 24 and paid almost nothing for it 30 euro for the panel and keystones and had mounting included but have enough cage nuts got them for free with my rack

the keystones are supposed to be cat6 so idk not like most of the cables are cat 5e and one cat 6 run and was already terminated into jacks so easier using couplers

[clear igloo]

flathead screw driver?

[thick minnow]

There wasn’t any more room so yeah

[thick minnow]

I have that haha

[carmine moss]

still clean for a small space tbh you don't need a ton of space anyway

[idle karma]

@idle karma please answer my question

[wanton cypress]

Does anybody know how to add a vpn to a tp-link Archer-C50

[wanton cypress]

can you do it threw a certain protocol

[neon escarp]

So question.. I have 2 servers. They are connected through 2 switches and a Vlan trunked between the 2 switches. Yesterday i configured Server one to subscribe to multicast address 224.2.2.30 which server 2 is multicasting to. This setup worked. For 12 hours ish. Any idea what could've broken considering there was no reboot(or powerloss), no configuration changed on either server, and no topology change on the L2 network ?

[hollow marlin]

@neon escarp Is IGMP-snooping is enabled on the switches and do you have an IGMP-querier within that VLAN?
-If its yes/no, with multiple switch you can run into these scenarios but it varies wildly depending on host OS and how the switch handles flooding MC to unknown groups. But typically its seen around the standard 3 mins mark, not 12 hours. A simple disabling of IGMP-snooping would be enough to test if it was the root cause.
-If its no/no, probably down to a server/host problem. A simple wireshark will tell you if the packets leaving the server and are making it to the host.

[neon escarp]

I've done yes/yes yes/no and no/no scenarios durring diagnosis with no change. My next test will be to connect the host directly to the server and bypass the switch entirely to rule out server/host problem. i do have a lingering suspicion of just a broken/insufficient switch its an 8 year old netgear GS724T. Last resort as they say sadly... Thx for the input 🙂

[silent torrent]

Hello my school had network restrictions. I recently learned that a raspberry pi can act as a vpn. but i was thinking to distribute it through the school i would some sort of router that has ungodly powers or a mesh network

i am looking for a cost effective solution. im just a kid so like probably impossible to do but i got at most 200$

i was thinking i could hide repeaters in lockers and put a battery bank in it

[hearty cliff]

hey so Im hooked up to ethernet and the download speed is atrocious, is there any way I could make it faster because I have a good internet provider and other devices arent this slow

[silent torrent]

what is your network plan’s speed

[twin zealot]

why dont u use a free vpn?

it might be that a vpn is blocked but if the vpn plan is free you cant really lose anything besides some time

[sudden kayak]

don't use free vpns

[twin zealot]

if it is for school stuff why not?

i mean what do they want to catch

me playing krunker?

[sudden kayak]

if a vpn is free it's making money off of you in some other way

usually very sketchy

[twin zealot]

idk

[sudden kayak]

if you're paying even like.. idk $1 or $2 a month, it might not be the fastest, but you're a paying customer and they're not going to steal your data or mine Bitcoin on your client or something

[twin zealot]

do you know proton? from protonmail, they are highly trused for their encrypted mail and also have a free vpn

dont know why their free mail is higly trusted but their vpn not

[sudden kayak]

that's a very different scenario - a particular known company that offers some paid services and then a very minimal free tier of their vpn

if you are just looking for some random free vpn, it's always going to be some kind of scam

[unborn sluice]

they're not going to steal your data
ah yes, cause you're paying for something means they aren't doing anything shady

[sudden kayak]

it's almost always a good heuristic

if they're getting money from you, they have a sustainable business and they have no reason to do sketchy stuff and risk their reputation

if it's a random free vpn that nobody's heard of, the only way they're gonna break even is by selling your info or doing something else shady

[unborn sluice]

risk their reputation
ah yes, VPN companies wouldn't do anything that would damage their reputation

[sudden kayak]

right. if they're a legitimate business they're going to care about their reputation

you're saying that like it's a big gotcha but that's literally making my point

[unborn sluice]

all I said was sarcastic, and you're digging it deeper

[sudden kayak]

you failed at sarcasm if you're saying something that is entirely reasonable. no legitimate vpn provider is going to do shady shit like the ones that sponsor YouTubers to say a vpn magically keeps you safe from everything

lol anyway my point stands regardless of your weird attempt at sarcasm. don't use random vpns that make unrealistic claims and offer you something that's too good to be true... get a known provider or run your own

[granite tide]

https://youtu.be/Q5K6_9yoPeo

Seems Yealink are expanding into new product ranges. Looks pretty cool

[cerulean anchor]

They track IPs and give to the government when asked, their praise has been diminishing after that happened.

[lament dirge]

Hi team, been having weird issues with both lan and wlan connectivity.
For lan, network keeps disconnecting every few seconds and to get connection back I have to manually click the network icon on taskbar and only then will the computer attempt to find available connections and connect successfully. Only for it to disconnect again shortly after. Initially thought it was cable issues but the new cable did nothing.

For WiFi, the adapter properties displays a "This device cannot start. (Code 10) message. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers but problem is still there. Kindly assist as I have no idea what's up

[crisp bay]

uhh if there's anyone who can understand Nginx, I'm trying to proxy IP:port to a domain but it doesn't work on that specific config/site, it works on others..

server {
        listen 80;
        server_name domain.tld;

        location / {
                proxy_pass http://{redacted}:25586;
        }
}```
well this should work right?

[silent torrent]

all website proxys are blocked. we can’t download anything because of the settings on all of the chromebooks

is there some sort of network switch that has a vpn

[pulsar thorn]

here's a config for one of my docker containers:

server {
        listen          192.168.0.252:443 ssl;
        server_name     example.jcksn.rip;
        
        ssl_certificate C:/filesync-certs/server.crt;
        ssl_certificate_key C:/filesync-certs/server.key;

        ssl_session_cache    shared:SSL:1m;
        ssl_session_timeout  5m;

        ssl_ciphers  HIGH:!aNULL:!MD5;
        ssl_prefer_server_ciphers  on;

        location / {
        proxy_headers_hash_max_size 512;
        proxy_headers_hash_bucket_size 64;
        proxy_set_header Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto $scheme;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;

        add_header Front-End-Https on;
        proxy_pass http://192.168.0.79:8180/;
        }
    }

I'm not sure if you need to add the ```
proxy_headers_hash_max_size 512;
proxy_headers_hash_bucket_size 64;

but your config should be working.

What are your error messages telling you?

[verbal pollen]

Does having a better wifi card helps with being a little far from the modem?

My brother currently has the Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201, is there any room to upgrade? hes room is quite far from the modem, does replacing the wifi card would help?

or having an extender would help?

[rugged quiver]

If you want stability(assuming you can't run network cables), a power line adapter with optional access point would be ideal. Otherwise a repeater might do better than a different wireless card (won't be great for latency if gaming).

[crisp bay]

refused basically..checked nginx error log (also added the line to log errors, shows nothin't

[pulsar thorn]

can you access your proxied destination from the server or your computer?

[rugged quiver]

Got any other computer to test with?

[crisp bay]

If I try to access it with IP:port, that works, just the domain part doesn't

I tried your config, removed the ssl part as I just wanna run it plain HTTP, still doesn't wanna work

[unborn sluice]

Whats the error?

[crisp bay]

Site returned Connection refused, browser console shows nothing, neither does Nginx log..

[unborn sluice]

can you show the config nw

[peak cloak]

refused means something outright refused the connection

not even timeout, which means no response

[silent torrent]

dumb question but i have a travel router. so if i connected it to my school network would the encryption basically prevent any network restrictions from uh well restricting

[hearty cliff]

So I did an internet test and it said I should have a 30MB/s download speed but in Steam and other apps, I'm only getting about 2MB/s. Is there any reason for this?

[unborn sluice]

Yes

[crisp bay]

Mb =/ MB

2 MB times 8 is 16Mb, the maximum speed you could have is around 3.8MB or so

[crisp bay]

        listen          80;
        server_name     domain.tld;

        location / {
        proxy_headers_hash_max_size 512;
        proxy_headers_hash_bucket_size 64;
        proxy_set_header Host $host;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto $scheme;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;

        proxy_pass http://{redacted}:25586/;
        }

        error_log /var/log/nginx/domain.tld_error.log;
        access_log /var/log/nginx/domain.tld_access.log;

    }

[pulsar thorn]

Try setting the “listen” to the server IP address

[crisp bay]

gave it, still no effect

[unborn sluice]

server_name domain.tld;
why

you redacted it?

[low pond]

because it's his domain

[crisp bay]

the domain works, just the routing to it doesn't.. (yes I redacted it)

[unborn sluice]

i haven't been following the convo, so you did the basic like
restart the nginx, check the ports of the proxy, check the ports of the proxied

all that works right?

[crisp bay]

yeah that works fine, I can access the content if I use IP:port, just replacing it with a domain doesn't

[unborn sluice]

to recap this is a server somewhere that doesn't need port forwarding right

and the domain returns the same ip you use to access it?

[crisp bay]

well it does, the specific port is opened since I can access it normally

[unborn sluice]

I mean the proxy server, not the proxied

[crisp bay]

a bit confused, I have the content and Nginx on the same server, so technically it doesn't need.
I've checked domain IP and it's the right IP

[unborn sluice]

so you proxy it over localhost?

proxy_pass http://{redacted}:25586/;
cause this suggests it's outside

so you are accessing the public ip of the same server?

[crisp bay]

yeah, in that config it's the public IP, I can access that easily

[unborn sluice]

you can, but did you check if the server can

[crisp bay]

wdym? localhost? tried curl, yeah works (received a whole index.html)

[unborn sluice]

you said you use the public ip

did you curl the public ip

[crisp bay]

localhost

[unborn sluice]

do curl the public

[crisp bay]

yeah same result, that works

[unborn sluice]

and the nginx error/access log doesn't say anything right?

and nginx is current status is running

i assume systemd

[crisp bay]

yeah it is running fine, without any errors

[unborn sluice]

interesting

[slow pivot]

@crisp bay does the domain you are trying to use map to the IP that nginx is listening on?

[crisp bay]

yeah it is, I'm using Cloudflare

with DNS only

[slow pivot]

And the redacted ip in the config is what again?

Is it the same ip as nginx?

[crisp bay]

my public IP that I can access as described earlier

[slow pivot]

So not the same as the ip that nginx is listening on?

[crisp bay]

yeah

wait hold that. Wdym by nginx listening to the IP? the IP that is mapped to the domain?

[slow pivot]

Yes

[unborn sluice]

Yes

[slow pivot]

So from your config, I am understanding you have two servers, each with an IP; nginx is listening to the first and proxying requests to the second, which is the public ip of your http server (home?)

[unborn sluice]

actually based on what he said he's using the public ip to proxy to the same server

maybe he wants his packet to leave the network for no reason

[slow pivot]

The domain you are using is mapped via dns to the first ip that nginx is listening to

[crisp bay]

exactly. Basically that site with 25586 port is mapped to Nginx so I can access it with domain on port 80. The domain is mapped with my IP address

[slow pivot]

And you are not seeing any requests in nginx’s access log?

And what type if connection is your ip address that nginx is listening on? Is that like a home ISP of some sort?

[crisp bay]

there are some, just not a lot

[crisp bay]

home ISP yeah

[slow pivot]

Any relating to your test requests from outside your network?

If not, is it possible that your ISP is filtering requests to port 80 from the internet?

[crisp bay]

I mean, I have another site that is on port 8443 and has the same config, that one works fine, on the same server

that's why it's so weird I can't proxy a simple site..

[slow pivot]

When you say port 8443, that is the port that nginx is listening to on your public ip?

[unborn sluice]

this tbh

[crisp bay]

okay....ssl issue. Installed a cert, it works..tff

[unborn sluice]

so it's not running (nginx)

[crisp bay]

it is, was confused it didn't have ssl so it failed..

[unborn sluice]

but you said it was running wihtout error

[crisp bay]

yeah...idk really

[waxen scroll]

[formal lance]

I am trying to remove some of the lag spikes in my remote streaming/quest 2 setup. I am currently using a GL502VM laptop as a wireless streaming device for Parsec/CEMU. I currently have a Netgear AC1750 router, with ethernet from my desktop. I am considering upgrading both my router to a 6/6e one, and concurrently upgrading my laptop wireless adapter from the stock one (Intel 8260NGW https://www.intel.co.jp/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/product-briefs/dual-band-wireless-ac-8260-brief.pdf) to an ax210 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/204836/intel-wifi-6e-ax210-gig.html Will this make any real difference, and will it even be compatible (I believe so since both cards are m.2 2230 but would like to confirm before purchasing.

[south blade]

Hey, I gave my Ubiquiti AP an IP address from my OPNsense box, 192.168.1.4, my router used only as an AP is set to 192.168.1.2 in it's own settings, would it hurt to assign it 192.168.1.2 in Static ARP in the OPNsense box?

[worn bone]

yo can someone help me with apache??

I have sumn else running on the same port :80

what do I do?

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      38222/lighttpd      
tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN      38222/lighttpd      

[peak cloak]

you have lighttpd running

you want to stop it

[south blade]

Does something look obviously wrong here? I keep having to toggle my WiFi cause I keep losing connection or something, DHCP on OPNsense, disabled on AP devices.

[worn bone]

idk

should I stop it? is it important?

[peak cloak]

what's running

[worn bone]

can I run apache2 on a different port?

[worn bone]

^

[peak cloak]

go to that device's ip and see what shows

[worn bone]

ok

[peak cloak]

yes

[worn bone]

I think it is running my pihole web interface

[peak cloak]

yep

that'll do it

[worn bone]

??

do what?

[peak cloak]

run lighttpd

and block port 80 from other applications to bind to it

[worn bone]

wait I'll change the pihole port

[next void]

Is there a way to make centos read out network traffic/activity?

[peak cloak]

specific traffic?

tcpdump

https://danielmiessler.com/study/tcpdump/

[next void]

Idk figuring this out won’t fix my problem

[peak cloak]

uhh, it's not installed by default?

can you install it

[next void]

My problem is that I’m doing a school project and I have a server rack and we are using IP tables for a router because dumb school network shit and then our dns server isn’t working

And I don’t know what to do anymore😂

[peak cloak]

yeah tcpdump is great for this

[peak cloak]

ahh, that sucks

iptables is annoying

[peak cloak]

I would just use like vyos if I could

[worn bone]

so I changed the port for pihole to :69 but it does not show up at http://192.168.29.51:69/ but it does work when I just do http://192.168.29.51/admin/ and apache2 is working too now

[next void]

Well supposedly the ip tables thing has worked for “7 years and there’s no reason to change it”

Like this thing is actually ancient

[peak cloak]

raw iptables is super hard to maintain imo

[next void]

Huh

Well supposed it hasn’t been touched in 7 years

And everything is working

These are all the rules

[peak cloak]

not much

[peak cloak]

what does the layout look like

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Wym?

I’m shit at this stuff

Sorry

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network topology

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Ah

We have a huge district switch at my school, and then we have our own switch for the cyber security program and off comes our little cable that goes to our iptables router, witch then goes back to the switch we have, then a cable goes to a DNS server

Witch then comes back to the server

I mean switch

Then off that same switch it goes to the server I was assigned to build, which I showed a love

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what's between dns server and client

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Wym?

Sorry

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like what devices are between dns server and client, to figure out why dns is not working

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I see

So dns server goes to a switch, switch goes to another switch then down to another router, then switch

Red is in blue is out

Same thing here