networking

[peak cloak]

aka IP blackhole

[dense citrus]

The issue i have (forgot to mention) is that i have gig internet. A lot of the firewalls i see support far less than gig speeds

[peak cloak]

ER-X can handle gig with HWNAT acceleration enabled and no packet inspection

[meager ginkgo]

I'd make a PFsense box or get a UDM Pro

[peak cloak]

pfsense I don't really reccomend

UDM is an option

[meager ginkgo]

It sucks the UDR can't handle gigabit well

[dense citrus]

Why not pfsense?

[primal ice]

he does not like the user interface 😛

[dense citrus]

Btw, ty soo much for the recommendations

[peak cloak]

requires something to install on, and most of the time the good things are expensive

[dense citrus]

Ohhh

[peak cloak]

well that's one thing... but not the main thing

it's the fact that's software/hardware seperate

[meager ginkgo]

I have a TP-Link ER605 and it handles gigabit fine for around $65. But I'd get something else if I were to redo my decision

[dense citrus]

Gotcha monkey. Understandable

Ty guys 🥰

[peak cloak]

@dense citrus also for DDOS protection you can get a proxy

[dense citrus]

true

Cloudflare right?

[peak cloak]

you direct users to the proxy, which then forwards to your server.

[meager ginkgo]

Works fine for my needs although I would like to upgrade to a UDM Pro for the possibility of getting 2 gig internet

[peak cloak]

well you can do it with cloudflare. But there's no free plan for anything other than web (http/https), tcp is not free

there's tcpshield which does have a free plan

[dense citrus]

Good to know

[peak cloak]

I just have a VPS which tunnels to my home network

[peak cloak]

is this for a mc server?

cuz tcpshield is basically for mc

[dense citrus]

Mainly for some gaming services, not for mc specifically, but other things I’d like to be a bit more public than it currently is

[peak cloak]

I really don't like unifi, so if I were to upgrade I would get something from edgerouter line

[dense citrus]

Also xbox games as some games allow packet sniffing to be a thing

[meager ginkgo]

UniFi is great IMO. I know they had that breach a while ago but it can't really be beat for the price

[dense citrus]

I like the sound of either, both seem to fit my needs honestly

If anything tough, I’d go with unifi for the ui

[meager ginkgo]

I have 2 UniFi 6 Pros and my only complaint is the throughput isn't as high as it should be. But I think it's something with my settings

[dense citrus]

Ooo

That’s overkill for me xD

[peak cloak]

it's the fact everything needs to be managed through UI basically

[dense citrus]

Live in nyc, apartments are smoll xD

[peak cloak]

like tp-link omada stuff I can manage individually, no controller needed

but I have one unifi switch and it's a PITA

[meager ginkgo]

They actually have a standalone mode now

For UniFi APs atleast

[peak cloak]

but it requires app no?

no webui

[meager ginkgo]

You get the app and configure it in standalone yeah

Not sure if they have a web UI when configured like that

[meager ginkgo]

What's your budget?

Are you looking for JUST a firewall or wifi aswell

[dense citrus]

Maybe both depending on how well it can broadcast through concrete walls xD

I don’t really have a budget though

[meager ginkgo]

You will probably need to run Ethernet for access points then for wifi

Concrete walls are a big barrier for wireless

I'd recommend U6-Pro access points for wifi though. UDM Pro for router. And CAT6A for the cabling

I recommend 6A over 6 due to the higher mhz and the future possibilities of it going greater than 10 gig

[peak cloak]

imo, 10g is like the limit of copper

just use fiber at that point

[meager ginkgo]

yeah that's where I would start using fiber but PoF solutions are rare as of now

[rocky badge]

Depends on the application

[meager ginkgo]

So Ethernet will be needed

[peak cloak]

that is true

PoE is very useful

can't do PoF

[meager ginkgo]

Ideally what you'd want to run is a Smurf tube

[rocky badge]

in the rack, I wouldn't do fiber

[peak cloak]

well yeah ofc

[rocky badge]

All copper in the rack

[peak cloak]

DACs

[meager ginkgo]

the Smurf tube lets you upgrade in the future from CAT6A up to fiber or whatever exists in 10 or however many years

[peak cloak]

tbh I feel like we are plateauing

[meager ginkgo]

I'm just waiting for more devices to have 2.5gig nics

[peak cloak]

I see not much need for super fast speeds, except for like editing vid, downloading/transfering files

[dense citrus]

Oof, looked away for a second and we’re on to fiber xD

[meager ginkgo]

Oh we thought that 10 years ago too :P

[rocky badge]

End computing mainly needs Gigabit yeah

[meager ginkgo]

There will always be more need for speed as traffic increases IMO

[dense citrus]

[rocky badge]

but more and more are getting 2.5/5

[peak cloak]

look at average traffic

it's not even 10 mbps

[rocky badge]

Even right now, average users don't even use Gigabit

[peak cloak]

what we just need is high burst

[meager ginkgo]

ATT has started to offer 2/5gig internet for relatively cheap in my area

My neighborhood excluded of course

[dense citrus]

Oo, imma look to see if fios got that

[peak cloak]

no

[dense citrus]

Whoops, wrong reply

[meager ginkgo]

does FiOS offer multigig at all yet?

[rocky badge]

no

[dense citrus]

Meant the 2.5 gig

[peak cloak]

no

[dense citrus]

Awe

[peak cloak]

first give me ipv6 ffs

[meager ginkgo]

Do they still use GPON in most areas?

[peak cloak]

I don't even have gig service, don't need it

[rocky badge]

Yes

[peak cloak]

yes

[rocky badge]

Although some older areas may be BPON

[meager ginkgo]

Only thing I like about FiOS is the ability to use your own router

[peak cloak]

I mean it's stable

[meager ginkgo]

Something ATT lacks.. without dealing with IP Passthrough and bypassing the gateway

[peak cloak]

never had an outage

[rocky badge]

Same :(

[peak cloak]

very no bs

[peak cloak]

here's ont, here's ethernet out, use whatever you want

ip over dhcp, ez

[meager ginkgo]

We have ATT at the moment and the BGW210

[rocky badge]

Although I could get 2 Gig from my ISP

[meager ginkgo]

more expensive than ATT tho

[rocky badge]

but it's available

[meager ginkgo]

But can you use your own router easily.. that's the question lol

[rocky badge]

Yes

[dense citrus]

I pay 75/month for gig, i think I’ll be fine here xD

[meager ginkgo]

Same here

[rocky badge]

They even ran my own CAT6

from my ONT to switch lol

[meager ginkgo]

I would like to upgrade to 2gigabit but need more devices to justify it

[peak cloak]

and you have multiple IPs

[peak cloak]

I don't have a need for even gigabit

[meager ginkgo]

We have Smurf tube luckily from outside utility hookup to inside my network closet

So they just ran fiber into the closet (ATT)

[peak cloak]

I have fiber to my rack

[rocky badge]

ONT VLAN and Cell wan

[meager ginkgo]

@rocky badge you have Verizon right?

[rocky badge]

not as home ISP

[peak cloak]

I do

[meager ginkgo]

Wrong person then

Nevermind lol

[rocky badge]

I have VZW but I am using my local fiber ISP for home

[meager ginkgo]

you should get the 5G Home for $25/mo

[rocky badge]

not in my area

[meager ginkgo]

Ah that stinks

[rocky badge]

Even though I have 5G in my home

[meager ginkgo]

Do you have cband ?

/ 5G UWB

[rocky badge]

No

[meager ginkgo]

That's probably why

they just brought it here and along with it the internet service

You even get an IPV4 IP no CGNAT bullshit

[rocky badge]

yeah

[meager ginkgo]

Seems to be capped to 300mbps though

[rocky badge]

plenty for a cell failover

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah. But still kind of upsetting that mmwave can do much more but they limit it

[peak cloak]

hopefully verizon deploys ipv6 next month

it's almost here, I feel it

[rocky badge]

Lol I can't even get LTE home services from VZW @meager ginkgo

[meager ginkgo]

Damn.

Congestion?

[rocky badge]

idk

[meager ginkgo]

They don't offer it here due to congestion

Verizon only pulls around 15mbps on LTE here on full bars

[rocky badge]

I get around 60Mbps in the house on LTE

[meager ginkgo]

ATT is really lacking right now in the wireless department

They need to start releasing some CBand

their 5G typically pulls less than 10mbps for me in my area

[rocky badge]

Next month they are upgrading my plan lol

for +10GB on the premium hotspot data

[meager ginkgo]

Meanwhile TMobile has 5G UC and n41 here pulling around 450mbps

[thick minnow]

Att around my area is supposedly 5g, but for some reason in my neighborhood I hit a dead zone where it shows a full 5g signal, but no data can come through or out. It's weird and not sure how to complain about it

[rocky badge]

My friend got their top tier 5G and he has truly unlimited

no 75GB soft cap, all unlimited

[meager ginkgo]

I wish we never switched to ATT

[meager ginkgo]

Verizon? Yeah it's a new plan

[rocky badge]

It would be $10/more for my line

[meager ginkgo]

I'm guessing they released that knowing CBand will improve their network

[rocky badge]

Compared to my current plan

[thick minnow]

I'd like to try Verizon but don't they do credit checks? Something stopped me from going with them before

[meager ginkgo]

All postpaid carriers do I think

Only prepaid don't I'm pretty sure

[rocky badge]

but 5G Get More is so enticing with the added lol

[meager ginkgo]

I would never switch to Verizon personally. It would be TMobile if I switched

[rocky badge]

TravelPass for unlimited data in 185+ countries

Currently I only get like 0.5GB of LTE speeds in Canada + Mexico

[meager ginkgo]

TMobile always seems to be the most cutting edge

[rocky badge]

T-Mo sucks here

[meager ginkgo]

Only issue is their coverage mainly

But for alot of people it doesn't bother them

[rocky badge]

They are cutting edge where they have the best presence

[meager ginkgo]

Have you tried their 5G?

Or only LTE

[rocky badge]

both

I have some friends on T-Mo lol

They barely get anything at school or my house

[meager ginkgo]

Their LTE is okish their 5G is amazing if you have 5G UC

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah sounds like you need more towers

Probably a coverage issue

[sudden kayak]

I'm on fi and it's ok but rapidly seems to be turning into a carrier for pixels only.... and the main reason i switched was for the free international data but I'm not exactly traveling a lot since 2020

[waxen scroll]

im on fi ❤️

[left stag]

Hi, I wasn't sure how to properly word this but I've had a problem during these past few days.

To preface, I've been dealing with my internet suddenly having its 5GHz band / signal suddenly not respond after having this new modem for two or so years now. I can't seem to connect to it, even within range, or in the event that I do it seems to disconnect me after so much time (usually within an hour or so or less.)

This signal worked throughout last year, but I'm not sure what's causing it to not remain connected. I've done a lot of investigating and I couldn't find any discernable reason to suspect it was my internal wifi adapter within my system. I've narrowed it down to the router itself, but I'm not so sure.

I've asked people I've known to be savvy enough to help narrow it down but I want a second opinion looking into this as I know very little about how networking works.

[hot hawk]

either try a firmware update or it just died

[left stag]

I'm going to have to look into updating the firmware, at least.

[hot hawk]

if that doesnt fix its prob dead

[left stag]

yeah, I'm hoping it's not the case if so.

[hot hawk]

u can try somthin like openwrt if your lucky tho

[slow pasture]

can someone recommend me a good wifi adapter, something not expensive

[quaint hearth]

So i live just off the side of a small city (lexington, ky) and well we have sim card internet that is 8mbps and my mom is like "I cant load my facebook fast enough" so she went tomrrow and bought an $800 rounter and asked me when i got home from school to set it up and i was like ok whatever so i did and were still getting the same speed so she was mad at me? but yah. and shes like almost threating me to get better internet and i dont know much about it so do any of you guys have reccomendations.

[peak cloak]

Look for other ISPs in the area

Fcc has a map

https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/#/

Not the best, but a place to get started

[quaint hearth]

well

sadly there is litterly no cable

[quaint hearth]

looked at the map and there it says there are other ISPs but i went and enterned my adress and none of them have it

[sudden kayak]

yeah unfortunately ISPs will blatantly lie in their 477 filings

but yeah upgrading your router won't do anything to make your internet service faster

i would say to return the router if you possibly can

[real knot]

Having problems with wifi. Just upgraded to windows 11, ethernet is working but wifi just says "Can't connect to this network" no matter what network I try. My wifi chip is discontinued but the drivers should still work with windows 11. Any ideas?
Chip is a Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265
I've tried resetting my network adapters, uninstalled the device and drivers nothing worked

[peak cloak]

could look at satellite providers as well

starlink

[clear igloo]

or T-Mobile home internet

[left stag]

An update on yesterday: the 5 GHz signal started to work during the evening hours. I didn't update the firmware (as it seemed to be up to date) and I'm probably of the mind that it could be high traffic issues causing the signal to not work.

[meager ginkgo]

Take a look for Starlink, T-Mobile Home Internet or Verizon Home Internet

[bright kestrel]

I use T-Mobile but I am lucky I am a block away from one of the towers some people have fluctuating speeds, from what I have heard, I havent any problems with it and ive had it since June I believe.

[hot hawk]

I have a tmobile tower about 500 yards from me and I get 600/100 on tmobile home internet

So it rlly depends on the towers in your area

Autho a good way to check speed is just testing on your phone if you have tmobile as your carrier

[left stag]

update again: seems I've managed to fix the issue I've been having by swapping to a different channel with the band

[waxen scroll]

https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/sd6ewl/how_do_you_tell_someone_that_they_are_wrong/

@clear igloo so? How many problems do you see?

[ocean jewel]

I have Spectrum and need to replace their default router because they don't allow you to control what connects to 2.4g and 5g respectively, and as such I cannot get my alarm system to connect. It needs dedicated 2.4 access. What's a good Wifi 6 router to get these days?

[warped sun]

That hurts my soul to read

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin Holy shit I want to switch off my fucking ISP so badly now. I hate them so much

I am having that same fucking packet loss issue again.

Same exact hops as last time

[waxen scroll]

I guess it's not a cable issue

😼

[meager ginkgo]

How big is your home?

[sudden kayak]

no offense but that doesn't really make sense. in a correctly configured setup, if you broadcast the same ssid on 2.4 and 5ghz, then something that doesn't support 5ghz will by definition never see it and not be aware of its existence

so you will automatically have "dedicated 2.4ghz"

that said, you should still probably replace your isp provided router, but probably the security system is full of shit

[unborn sluice]

isp router discriminating

[rose sparrow]

Hey! Anyone who has been using zerotier here??

[unborn sluice]

what's zerotier

[waxen scroll]

No idea

[little schooner]

my net admin calls the new Cisco ax access points "5G+", what even is that supposed to mean?

it's not like cellphone

[little schooner]

I use openvpn server

[twilit garnet]

Do you guys know any reliable brands for a powerline adapter?

I bought a tenda powerline adapter. Super disappointed, it broke in two weeks. Got a replacement and it broke in a week

[viral gulch]

Anyone any good with ifupdown-ng know whether it's possible to create a VLAN interface without any config? I want one that's just used as a backhaul for PPP so I don't want the actual interface itself to have any config (ip addresses etc)

[iron wren]

Does anyone know Dahua switches any good ?

[peak cloak]

so you just it to bridge

[viral gulch]

Ah that might work - bridge with a VLAN tag?

[meager ginkgo]

TP-Link or NETGEAR. Do you have to use power line though?

I'd use Moca if you have coax tv jacks around your house

[twilit garnet]

sadly no moca in my room. running an ethernet cable around my house is not an option

Well, my house doesn't really have those moca cables or coaxial adapter(?)

Wifi would be pretty fine, but I game alot so I need to have a consistent ping so my only option was powerline adapter haha

[peak cloak]

yeah, idk the exact synatx but something like

bridge vmbr0:
   eth0.10
   eth1.10

will bridge vlan 10 on eth0 and vlan 10 on eth1

[meager ginkgo]

Are you in the US?

[twilit garnet]

Philippines

[meager ginkgo]

Ah okay. That explains that then

Yeah NETGEAR/TPLINK are generally fine

[twilit garnet]

alright, thanks!

[deep bough]

I don't know if this is the place to ask; what should my friend do if they got DDOSed and can't change their IP (Static IP) pretty much crazy ex boyfriend is ddosing my friend and her ISP (Comcast) isn't doing anything about it pretty much and the ddos has been running for 24H+ now, can't find anything on google about actually solving the problem but maybe someone here is technical enough to be able to help

[clear igloo]

You either throw more bandwidth at the issue than what they can generate or your change the IP. You have one pipe coming in and if that's full that's it, nothing more you can do

[deep bough]

yeah their ip can't change its associated with their mac address

[clear igloo]

You spoof the mac address

[deep bough]

how do they do that

[clear igloo]

depends on the router attached

[deep bough]

comcast router

(xfinity)

its an all in one router

so the modem and router are one part

[peak cloak]

prob can't then

they are prob paying for some ddos thing, it'll stop eventually

[deep bough]

The person claims they aren't

[peak cloak]

can't ddos without a botnet

with they have a botnet, I'm impressed

[deep bough]

Yeah one second I have their discord info

SharkDouble07#5685

They're 25 and are ddosing a 17 year old girl

[thick minnow]

Finally setting up my own home server first time

hope its not as slow as my synology nas

[deep bough]

If anyone could convince them not to do it it would be nice, since they've admitted to doing it 😂

[sudden kayak]

their IP should just change if they unplug their router for a few minutes

IPs are not static on residential comcast connections

also, if they speak to comcast support and tell them there's some kind of attack going on, they will take care of it (probably either changing their IP or blackholing the source of the traffic

[deep bough]

They already did that

And even got their router replaced

[sudden kayak]

that's really weird. was customer support able to tell your friend what kind of traffic they were seeing on their end and where it was originating from?

the other possibility here is to contact the ISP of the person ddosing and get their abuse department to take care of it

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner why so quiet

is school done?

[thick minnow]

setups truenas

gains brain damage from trying to figure out stuff that are common sense

[peak cloak]

ZFS, it takes a some knowledge to make a good setup

[thick minnow]

no its like i have 0 permisions to write on my own disks

it creates empty folders 0 bytes cache files in lancache

i cant even write data in smb

where do i change the permisions im getting fed up

my head hurts

pleases some one help me

[peak cloak]

don't you need to create storage whatever it's called?

[thick minnow]

i did

and i have no permision to write

like nothing makes sense at all

[peak cloak]

you have a pool right?

[thick minnow]

it says its not read only but it is clearly read only

[peak cloak]

where?

[thick minnow]

yes a pool without permisions

where are the permisions

[peak cloak]

you have to create a dataset I think?

been a while since I tried out freenas/truenas

[thick minnow]

dude this entire interface is so minimal it makes me wanna bang my head

[peak cloak]

I found it descent

[thick minnow]

if i had known this i would just install ubuntu server and do everything manually cos atleast that works

still not working

cant even use my truenas as lancache it just writes 0 byte files non stop

i dont wannt fucking life anymore

farewelll

[little schooner]

work has kept me busy for the most part and by the time i get home, im pretty much beat

[little schooner]

semester started again but yes i am done with school

[sturdy hare]

Heya heya

The wireless router we have in our roof doesn't have enough range for a single room downstairs

we have ethernet cable with a switch there, but we would like some wifi there as well

what kjind of router/wifi thingy is the most efficient to buy?

[crisp bay]

hi, so how can I separate 2 domains from accessing one root? for example site1 is on domain1 and has a server_name site1.domain.tld, while second one is setup similarly but it has a different root and domain. Now both of those domains are accessing site1 root. I suppose that a config is needed to be posted here? I'll if it's needed...

[unborn sluice]

You want
a.example.com
And
b.example.com to go to different servers?

[crisp bay]

yeah, currently b.example is accessing a domain root

[slow pivot]

And they are hosted on the same apache server? With both a.example.com and b.example.com pointing to the same IP address?

[crisp bay]

yeah nginx and pointing to the same address

[unborn sluice]

so you have another server that has nginx too?

so you have 2 servers with each their nginx

[peak cloak]

You want another access point

[slow pivot]

And you set up two different virtual server definitions in nginx?

[unborn sluice]

and you want different subdomains

[crisp bay]

yeah, every config consists a server_name and root directory which are different on every config

[unborn sluice]

show us the config

[sturdy hare]

what's the pros*cont compared to a router?

[unborn sluice]

you don't need a router (per se)

[peak cloak]

you only need 1 router

a router does not mean wifi

your generic wifi router is a router + switch + wireless access point

[sturdy hare]

right

so only a wireless access point should be cheaper

[peak cloak]

or more expensive, but better

I like the tp-link omada access points

unifi is also good, but requires a unifi controller, no webui unless you want to manage them individualy via app, which kinda sucks

[sturdy hare]

can I have them connected by cable?

[hollow marlin]

@peak cloak @tender hazel Latest ROS v7 updates:

*) l3hw - added HW offloaded FastTrack support for inter-VLAN routing;
*) l3hw - fixed HW offloaded NAT;```
If this is true, its going to be major for a lot of Mikrotik devices

[peak cloak]

yes that's the point

[sturdy hare]

Nice

that's probably what I need then,thanks

[peak cloak]

usually it's powered by POE

so only one cable goes to it

[sturdy hare]

That would mean my switch would need to provide poe

[peak cloak]

or use a poe injector

my AP the EAP225 came with one

[slow pivot]

Yeah would probably need to see the config.

[plain siren]

YUS

[plain siren]

Ive recenty got more into playing with Omada lineup

The control/API is much more reasonable
Easy to use
Still tinker-capable

[crisp bay]

yeah was outside, but here it is:

domain 1 (existing):
https://pastebin.com/623NNWPZ

domain 2 (added recently):
https://pastebin.com/V3tce88X

domains are hidden

[plain siren]

@crisp bay

[unborn sluice]

👆

[crisp bay]

Pterodactyl uses PHP8, is there just an issue in the first config?

[plain siren]

Well, check to make sure the other exists because IIRC i dont think you can have PHP FPM Service running 2 diff versions on the same host (minus containerization)

[crisp bay]

I'll check, but that certainly isn't the issue with domain 2 accessing the first root right?

[slow pivot]

Did you make sure the new config is in the "sites-enabled" directory?

or symlinked into that directory

[crisp bay]

waiiiiit I did not do that...

completely forgot

my bad ._.

[slow pivot]

there's ya problem ;)

[crisp bay]

yeah after enabling it, still accesses the first domain's root..

[unborn sluice]

Nice

[crisp bay]

I get it that Pterodactyl's config is setup like that so if you enter IP only

[slow pivot]

hmm

did you restart nginx?

or at least tell it to reload its configs?

[crisp bay]

yeah straight after linking it

[slow pivot]

hmm

anything in the error/access logs that would give you any clues?

[crisp bay]

error log is empty, access.log gives out some Tsunami.xml stuff

and index.php stuff

okay I've enabled SSL on that second domain, can't find the root now (404), what..

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo 😩

[clear igloo]

Those prices 🤢

[warped sun]

My apartment is the only building in the city that doesn't have fiber runs. It's the worst

[hollow marlin]

I would assume there are contracts between the asymmetrical/symmetrical plans for the cost to be the same?

[rocky badge]

idk why they are the same

They are defo in a contract though

[hollow marlin]

I guessing it may be term limits. Also I sure hope the 1G/1G plan is not actually on GPON or they specify they are not guaranteeing that rate. At least hope its X-GPON instead

[rocky badge]

Idk what it's on lol

Currently their Internet is 150/40Mbps

for $99/mo

They also have a 150/150Mbps line that doesn't actually link back to their ONT for $149/mo.

So they are throwing $149/mo down the drain for something they don't use

They can save $49/mo and get 5x the download

They are paying so much for voice though lmfao. And that's a 3 year contract

[hollow marlin]

I think our rate for 150/150 is $99 but I think they bumped that up to 250/250.
Also the amount of larger customers we have that ordered multiple circuits where some are not used at all hurts my soul

[rocky badge]

Imagine paying $122/mo for voice

[hollow marlin]

You'd be surprised the fees we have to pay for carrier routing. Its something like 7 figures a year. I know many of the hospitals we serve are paying 10k+ only for voice

[rocky badge]

Yeah but this is a "small business"

They only use 2 lines and 6 extensions

They have 4 lines

all desk phone/wall phone calls go through one line and emergency/security/elevator goes through the 2nd line

fire is on its own cellular connection off of the fire panel

I wish they would stop using the MDF as storage. The fire panel, rack, and electrical panels are obstructed by shit

[hollow marlin]

Oh I understand, the problem is with the providers switch licensing. Typically a license per line, HBPX, trunk, etc. It adds up fast. Usually only the Class 1/Class 2 providers (VZN/AT&T) can offer voice plans for cheap. While the Class 4 providers such as us have all this overhead cost

[rocky badge]

😩

When I first upgraded their networking and stuff. I was trying to find WAN 2's cable coming from the ONT lol

[hollow marlin]

lol. Were you able to actually find out which port the second connection is on?

[rocky badge]

I found WAN 2 but no link LOL

The ONT probably isn't provisioned? 🤨

Because the cable was going back to the ONT okay

[hollow marlin]

If they are paying for it I would sure hope its configured lol

[rocky badge]

I have no fucking clue lol

That's why I was like....hey call your ISP and tell them to cancel the 2nd line and bump up your main line

I would upgrade their phone system for them if they only had desk & wall phones. But since there's security and elevator on it...I'm good lmfao

[hollow marlin]

Are these just POTS line or are some of them already SIP?

[rocky badge]

All POTS

[hollow marlin]

If I were managing it Id go SIP and use some cheap ATAs for the security/elevator. I hate dealing with POTS

[rocky badge]

Yeah I'm not managing their voice right now it's all on their ISP

I'm only managing their network

[hollow marlin]

Good, let them deal with it them lol

[rocky badge]

They don't have any local servers so that's ez

They're all cloud/Google Workspace

and another MSP does their printers

[clear igloo]

what is printers?

[rocky badge]

lmfao

[long thistle]

lol

divide by 4.11

[peak cloak]

well that's business I assume, which is different than residential

[autumn bay]

where in Poland is this Krakow/ Warszawa ?

[long thistle]

Poznan

[autumn bay]

yeah im going back to Poland

[long thistle]

nah

[peak cloak]

?

that's business (blob's screenshot)

[long thistle]

ah

[peak cloak]

but in general yeah, internet here is more expensive

[long thistle]

probably

[autumn bay]

Poland has so cheap internet

[autumn bay]

1k

[long thistle]

oh $hit

[peak cloak]

this is like business business

[autumn bay]

What about home use ?

[peak cloak]

I'm on 300/300

no need for gig

[autumn bay]

UK is kinda trash

[long thistle]

not bad

[autumn bay]

i have 300/20

[peak cloak]

we used to pay 120 for 300/20 cable internet and phone

[long thistle]

i mean for 300

[autumn bay]

UK doesnt do good Upload for some reason

i think the most you can get is like 50

[peak cloak]

you got cable right

[autumn bay]

its fibre

[peak cloak]

huh

FTTH?

[autumn bay]

yeah nvm

FTTH

So in the US you have full fibre ?

[peak cloak]

US is huge, depends on area

[autumn bay]

As in where you are rn

[peak cloak]

so like for FIOS I have fiber to my network/server rack, where it goes into their ONT

then goes to router

[long thistle]

i pay $50 for 10 gig

[peak cloak]

Many people have their ONT on the outside, but for some reason mine's inside. Maybe newer installation procedures? idk, maybe it's cheaper and easier and I had the space

[long thistle]

lol why outside

[peak cloak]

so verizon could utilize the existing coax networks

idk if they do that anymore

[autumn bay]

10gig in poland ?

[long thistle]

I have a fiber optic connected directly to my house

[long thistle]

yes

[peak cloak]

but they at least used to

so then the fios router could be placed inside and attached to a coax port and communicate to outside ONT via moca

[autumn bay]

My Grandma can only get some shitty one like 30mbps

[peak cloak]

that's what an outdoor ONT looks like

not fios tho

[autumn bay]

but it she has a fibre line right next to the house

[long thistle]

this utp

[autumn bay]

yeah

[peak cloak]

?

[autumn bay]

Its just shitty and they want 130zl

for what ?????????

[long thistle]

lol

[peak cloak]

oh that's for phone probs

[long thistle]

ah ok

[peak cloak]

this is what mine looks like kinda (not my image)

[autumn bay]

meanwhile the UK has had the same router for at least 5 years

[long thistle]

ah yes, combo from isp

[peak cloak]

I hate combo's

another ISP here doesn't do it the way verizon does and there is NO standalone ONT option

[long thistle]

my isp luckily stopped using them

[peak cloak]

with fios, no need to mess with passthrough or whatever

ez

[autumn bay]

what are the options in Poland UTP and Orange ?

[peak cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/884550856748433458/20210401_121859.jpg

my setup, doesn't show too much

[long thistle]

not bat but still

this combo

[long thistle]

the same

[peak cloak]

what combo?

[long thistle]

your, under a switch

[peak cloak]

there's no combo? The thing on left is ONT, middle is router, right is Pi

yes, the ONT is huge

[long thistle]

ok

i have something like that

but for 10 gig ofc

[peak cloak]

yeah, the ONT provides coax output for MOCA and TV, phone lines, and ethernet

[long thistle]

ok

btw i didn't hear about moca before

[rocky badge]

Yeah but that's not business

[long thistle]

now i know

[rocky badge]

Mine's in the same exact enclosure but it's Adtran not Calix lol

I think the part number is even a Calix p/n

[peak cloak]

I forget, what's the budget product

Adtran or Calix

[long thistle]

but they offer ftth only with combo

[rocky badge]

I think Adtran is more budget, but Calix has some inexpensive options too

[hollow marlin]

For ONTs Adtran is dirt cheap. Calix hardware is not that bad for the cost though

[rocky badge]

I think my ISP's issue with my packet dropping is just congestion

it always happens at nights

AT&T fiber is so tempting too

[vocal gazelle]

Having trouble trying to set a tp link ax10 router up as an access point, main router being a Technicolor tg789vac. Looked at various things on Google but still can't seem to get it to work, must be doing something wrong. Any ideas?

[peak cloak]

If there is no AP option, the usual procedure is to turn off DHCP and connect the router to the rest of the network with the LAN ports

[vocal gazelle]

There is an AP mode

[peak cloak]

if there is, it should just be a thing of putting it in AP mode, connecting to rest of network.

Then look in router for DHCP leases to see what IP it got

and connect to it

[vocal gazelle]

Didnt work

[peak cloak]

what didn't work, gotta be more specific than that

[vocal gazelle]

These directions

[peak cloak]

but what didn't

can't login again?

[vocal gazelle]

No connection

[peak cloak]

?

[vocal gazelle]

Might try resetting both routers and try again tomorrow

[peak cloak]

prob won't help

[vocal gazelle]

Ye might just try to return the fucker If this doesn't work, can't be arsed with this bullshit

[peak cloak]

could just get an actual AP if you just want an AP

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin @waxen scroll I setup nagios to do ping checks to CF & Google to get some events of when my ISP drops packets and shit lol

[vocal gazelle]

Want to use a router because of the ethernet ports on that

[peak cloak]

get a switch? But there's these wall Access Point with a built in switch

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/omada-sdn-access-point/eap235-wall/v1/

[jovial oriole]

So I play F1 2021 And I want to broadcast the UDP telemetry data
to my friend remotely.
I have set up a port forward in Windows Firewall
and my router
the port still shows up as closed

[jovial oriole]

@mighty linden

[mighty linden]

Sorry, not a Windows guy but I'd hazard to guess depending on if you're using a router + modem might have two firewalls to get through, or perhaps a security level in one of the firewalls. If you disabled a DMZ, you may need to reenable UPnP/NAT-PMP on your router

Or you're pointing the port at the wrong thing.

[hexed bear]

Why is this female to female and some are the cable connected things. Do they both perform the same.

It is kinda like a wall Ethernet coupler

Recommend?

I get 20-400mbps wireless. 60-160 power line. Better ping then wireless. 400 to 1000 with Ethernet with better ping lower ms latency

Planning new router soon

I put cat 8 from modem to router. Shouldn’t make a difference but it was better then my cat 🐈 5e from before

Since I got fiber my internet has been zoomin fast. When I had copper it was 1-1mbps. And over 1000 ping even with Ethernet and one device connected

I can now download games in minutes not days and nights anymore

[olive karma]

hi, i have a question about NAS hard drives, is this the correct space to ask it?

[final minnow]

What is your question?

[olive karma]

whats the best har drive for NAS, i was thinking about wd red because they were cheaper and advertised for NAS but then i saw that WD has two types of drives smr and cmr, and the one i wanted to buy was a smr and those dont work great on RAID, so now im not sure on which drive i should buy, so i would like help on choosing a hard drive

[final minnow]

I guess it depends on what your use-case is?
Honestly though SMR drives I wouldn't trust in a raid array.

[olive karma]

im thinking on using a WD my cloud PR4100 on RAID5 to store mostly pictures, videos, and maybe some documents, and when i say videos its just those home made family videos not movies or a plex server

[hexed bear]

wd all day man

i still have 2 rapters i have never used em i got extra by accident

[peak cloak]

hmm wonder why...

need to get some IT

[waxen scroll]

uh huh

more than that

Dell/EMC or whatever

vendor supported, active support contract

yes its expensive, but so is going bankrupt

that is another reason ive been like "why the hell do they do 0 enterprise IT videos / sponsorships????"

they could get all this gear on deep discount

or even free?

they could probably do one hyperconverged rack and replace all the jank with a fully supported solution in a box

[rocky badge]

no sympathy lol

[thick minnow]

after endless banging my head against the wall i finally figured out why lancache server was not having write permisions

[peak cloak]

what was it?

[thick minnow]

no idea sometimes it does not give permisions to subfolders

so i just used default permisions and remade the dataset

really getting depressed tho

5820k maxing out almost 90% when i download things and it does not hit constant gbe speeds which if managed on my synology nas i think

all lancache filling up now

[thick minnow]

added my old ssd as cache now altho i do not understand why i cant setup boot drive for that

[snow lance]

I just tested my nas in with a direct 10 gbps connection to my server and got around 200 mbps sequential read with a 1.5m cat6a rj45 cable. now i plug it in with a longer uhhh i think 20m cat6a rj45 and i get this

[thick minnow]

is the cable oke ?

i believe cables should be fine up to 100m but i could be wrong never tested it

[snow lance]

yeah it wasnt a cheapass one but ill write what it says on the cable

or just take a picture

[thick minnow]

maybe you just did 2 wires badly on 1 end i would run a cable tester you may find a fault,

[snow lance]

i dont have a cable tester

and wdym did 2 wires badly

[thick minnow]

just my thoughts since only read is slow

[snow lance]

yes but wdym

hoh

[thick minnow]

you made cable yourself right ?

[snow lance]

no i bought a 20m cable

[thick minnow]

oh thought you made it yourself

its pretty easy to do

im guessing its not made by some one else either then ?

[snow lance]

i bought

[thick minnow]

if so i would not trust it

[snow lance]

a 20m cable

[thick minnow]

something else may be wrong then

[snow lance]

yeah idk what it is

these write speeds vary a lot

read sequential appears to be capped at 6.5 doe

[thick minnow]

i dont know how length effects speed but if it did i would not expect it to go below gbe speeds honestly you get higher then gbe speeds on write

[snow lance]

yeah and even then i still got 700 mbps write

[snow lance]

@peak cloak you know?

[peak cloak]

could be interefence,

idk

[snow lance]

ohhh maybe, I do have a power cable next to it

[peak cloak]

that would do it

if it's unshielded

[snow lance]

I'll try to seperate them and run again

[peak cloak]

I try to give at LEAST like a foot of space between power cable and data cables on parallel runs

[hidden socket]

Whats the best router for around £60 or £70?? I see to many routers and I dont trust the marketing terms

[long thistle]

aluminum twisted pair

[thick minnow]

usually cables are twisted together tho in a way to avoid most interfearance with a seperator

[peak cloak]

doesn't help much when in parallel run. idk the science behind it, but read it somwhere

[thick minnow]

nephew had headset interfearance and got rid of it having cable along with other cables

even its own wire

like a loopy loop

does truenas report temps directly from cpu or mainboard ?

[snow lance]

hmmmm

[thick minnow]

That is really bad

its on default settings right for crystaldiskmark ?

[snow lance]

yep

i found it https://www.avxperten.dk/netvaerkskabel-cat6a/netvaerkskabel-cat6a-15m-utp-hvid.asp

this cable ah

unshielded

Cat6a patch cable
The network cable has been tested for Cat6a (500 MHz / 1000 Mbps).

Cat6a supports data transfer speeds of up to 10 Gbps at a maximum bandwidth of 500 MHz.

UTP (Unshielded Twisted Pair) with copper conductor
The cable is unshielded UTP. UTP stands for Unshielded Twisted Pair and is a cable with multi-wire flexible copper inner conductors.

Unshielded cat6a cable is soft (stranded) and therefore easier to work with than the shielded STP cables (Shielded Twisted Pair). An unshielded network cable like this is also a bit thinner than the shielded cables.

Use this network cable to connect either a PC to a hub / switch or to connect two hubs or switches to each other.

LSHZ
LSZH stands for Low Smoke Zero Halogen and means Low Smoke Zero Halogen. This means that it is a very secure cable.

This network cable is white. It is therefore particularly suitable for visible cabling e.g. via skirting boards or a white wall.

The patch cable is approved according to Danish standards and has locking protection on the RJ45 connectors at both ends.

@peak cloak what specs would i want then

[thick minnow]

sounds like cable which you terminate yourself

probably terminated badly

my modem rj45 was terminated incorrectly would daily reset connection and cause drop outs even tho it could handle gbe speeds

once a month tho it would drop to 100 mbps speeds

2 wires orange and white where in reverse orderwhile supose to be 568B

[snow lance]

how many times i gotta tell you lmfao it came as a complete cable with connectors

[thick minnow]

some one else can still terminate it tho

[snow lance]

[thick minnow]

who you think terminated mine incorrectly ?

😒

[snow lance]

well getting a shielded cable is always a plus when its literally right next to the power cable lmfao

[thick minnow]

i bought shielded cable for 1 long run altho i did not use shielded rj45 tho

[snow lance]

damn

[thick minnow]

think my cable is between 10 to 20m or so from my lancache to my router i know that cable can hit 118 MB/s transfer speeds easily up and down

now i just need 2,5 gbe managed switch and 2,5 gbe network card for my homeserver and im probably done

[snow lance]

bruh this store lmfao

[thick minnow]

how much is that in euros

[snow lance]

ah nice, i still need to put my switch up there but then i gotta remove my cable nail holder thingies and put them back properly which i cba to do lmfao

[snow lance]

must be like €850

$1k

[thick minnow]

sounds reasonable considering the shortage unless im missing something and they go cheaper

[snow lance]

holy shit thats a lotta metters

bro your cable aint 2 trillion meters? cringe

@peak cloak would this one suffice?

[peak cloak]

I mean shielded won't really help if you don't have shielded ports

[snow lance]

i have tx401 in both ends

so what do i do then?

[peak cloak]

hmm not sure if it's shielded

from the pics it looks shielded

[snow lance]

For example, you can use this network cable to connect a PC to a hub, switch, modem, or router.

The Cat 6a standard can handle a bandwidth of up to 500 MHz and speeds of up to 10 Gbit / s.

Color: Red.

Version: S / FTP Cat 6a Straight.

Internal conductor material: CU copper. (Pure copper)

AWG: 26/7.

Bandwidth: 500 MHz.

Speed: 10 Gbit / s.

S / FTP: Double shielded cable (Foil and wicker shield) Protects against both high and low frequency interference. High mechanical durability against, for example, vibrations.

[snow lance]

says so

[peak cloak]

ah where? couldn't find it on the product specs

[snow lance]

oh wait nvm thats the cable

how does that make sense doe

[peak cloak]

wdym

[snow lance]

why does the connector have to be shielded

[peak cloak]

because the shield in the cable needs to be grounded to work

[snow lance]

ah

welp what do i do then

[thick minnow]

setting up rsync with homeserver is so much faster then a old nas with only 1 gb of memory lol

[plain siren]

My confusion when I setup rsync on my NAS and use it as a storage proxy homeserver too at the same time

make homeserver NAS

[waxen scroll]

You seen multiple times in LTT why home brew is crap. Time for real solutions going forward

[plain siren]

Ive seen multiple times in LTT uneducated and failed attempts

[waxen scroll]

Like the networking installs

[plain siren]

Fucking ugh

But once you know what you are doing, you can create a robust solution thats just as good as one that is done the same but with a fancy UI slapped on top.

You just gotta figure out what those who build commercial solutions did to get to that milestone of "acceptible"

Thankfully Computers are a .... SCIENCE

So its really more about reading the documentation all the way through instead of relying on tutorials

[peak cloak]

yeah...

problem is when people don't have enough knowledge so docs don't make sense to them

[snow lance]

bruh wot

[thick minnow]

i hate reading documentation almost never makes sense until i figure out few steps on my own, then all documentation starts to make sense

but at this point it does not provide much more info anymore

[snow lance]

documentation be like
what they tell you: 5%
what youre expected to know: 95%

[thick minnow]

switching to linux is gonna be easier now i have lancache working

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @peak cloak 🤪 I setup pfSense to connect to Mullvad WireGuard VPN to route all of my Internet through so my ISP's shittastic Google/etc connection doesn't slow shit down.

My hacky solution to get this working is so bad lmfao

[peak cloak]

how does that work...

[rocky badge]

but no more packet drops to Google and shit

[peak cloak]

oh packet loss to google

hacky af

[rocky badge]

Me -> UDMP -> pfSense -> Mullvad WG -> Internet

[peak cloak]

can't setup a wg endpoint on UDMP?

[rocky badge]

because I didn't feel like recreating my whole network in pfSense

[rocky badge]

not officially

[peak cloak]

Neither is it on ER-X but I do it, and it's very nicely intergrated in the cli

[rocky badge]

All of this is working with port forwards as well

And speeds are really good

830Mbps down, 500Mbps up

[peak cloak]

your routing all your internet through the VPN?

[rocky badge]

Yes

[peak cloak]

why not just google?

[rocky badge]

because this is easier lol

[peak cloak]

fair

[thick minnow]

google is really bad these days

[rocky badge]

not really, it's my ISP 🤪

[rocky badge]

The only thing not routed through VPN is IoT net

because of streaming services

netflix works (including US library) but not Disney+

Gonna see if we can just switch to AT&T fiber

[waxen scroll]

That's not hacky. We do it all the time in corporate

[rocky badge]

it's just too hacky for me

[waxen scroll]

Not wireguard of course

[hazy temple]

Hello

i need help pls

[waxen scroll]

Nope.

Try #linux

@rocky badge why can't they fix it

[rocky badge]

my ISP?

[waxen scroll]

Yes

[rocky badge]

idfk

[hollow marlin]

Is it just Google traffic that's affected?

[rocky badge]

It's mainly Google but some are shitty

[hollow marlin]

Probably congestion at their IX then

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin 😩

I really want to get on AT&T

Barely anyone is using them in my area

[waxen scroll]

You don't need YouTube tv in 2022

What's on TV that you need to watch

TV is cancer these days

[rocky badge]

dad 😐

That's why I also need flowroute/voice service because of parents 😐

if it was just me, it would be $87.80/mo

[waxen scroll]

He likes award shows and CNN huh

😼

[rocky badge]

sPoRtS

[waxen scroll]

Worse.

I'm in the minority though. I don't find sportsball fascinating

[rocky badge]

same

gimmie YT, Spotify, Disney+, Netflix and I'm entertained

[waxen scroll]

People at business meetings like to use sports for small talk and I'm just like "who are the Yankees?"

[peak cloak]

Same

I am clueless about sport teams

[hot hawk]

is there a way to expose a local network with somthin like argo (cloudflared) tunnel

i tried a http (shadowsocks) proxy thru the tunnel but couldnt use the proxy publicly

[unborn sluice]

why would you expose your network

[hot hawk]

just for remote access

[unborn sluice]

use a vpn instead

[hot hawk]

ie my nas

isp cgnat says otherwise

[unborn sluice]

use a vpn instead

[hot hawk]

i cant

[unborn sluice]

you can

[hot hawk]

how do u set up a vpn server behind cgnat then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/670049444539924487.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=32

do u know what cgnat is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/654379955043696680.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=32

[plain siren]

https://www.zerotier.com/

[hot hawk]

tried that super slow so was wondering if there was a faster way

dont rlly want to shell out 5 bucks a month for a vps e

[plain siren]

Well you are wanting to open a static door into your network and to do that you need to have something on the outside to be the door since you dont technically "Own it" in CG-NAT

A VPS with a Client (Be it your Home Router or your PC) to Gateway (VPS... Something with a Static IP not within your "Neighborhood LAN") VPN Connection + Inbound Connection Tunnel Routing

Thats really the only way out

[hot hawk]

ive been able to access a local jellyfin server thats on my network with argo tunnel

[plain siren]

Actually ARGO Tunnels are basically like VPN Tunnels

They operate on that exact concept

[hot hawk]

yea

route traffic thru there server

autho i have yet to find out how to use it to access my local network

[plain siren]

The Client initiates and maintains the connect and the Server/Gateway will route inbound connections back over to client as a "response" so it gets to the right "LAN Device"

[hot hawk]

some one recommend hosting a socks proxy server thru it but never got it working with argo

[plain siren]

haha, you cant. They are limited to Websites only

[hot hawk]

f

[plain siren]

it prevents abuse

And also reduces code complexity

[hot hawk]

ig

guess i could host my nas on some website r somthin if i need access

prob worded that rlly badly

any recommendations r no

[plain siren]

sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 on VPN VPS
Install Wireguard
/etc/wireguard/wg0.conf

[Interface]
PrivateKey = ...
Address = ...
ListenPort = 51822

PreUp = iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d <cloud public IP> -p tcp --dport 8444 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.92.1
PreUp = iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.10.92.1/32 -j SNAT --to-source <cloud public IP>
PostDown = iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -d <cloud public IP> -p tcp --dport 8444 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.92.1
PostDown = iptables -t nat -D POSTROUTING -s 10.10.92.1/32 -j SNAT --to-source <cloud public IP>

[Peer]
PublicKey = ...
AllowedIPs = 10.10.92.1/32

On your Home Server:
/etc/wireguard/wg0.conf

[Interface]
PrivateKey = ...
Address = 10.10.92.1/32

[Peer]
PublicKey = ...
Endpoint = <VPS IP>:51822
AllowedIPs = 0.0.0.0/0
PersistentKeepAlive = 25

[hot hawk]

a dont want have a vps

[plain siren]

Well you cant do anything atm then.

[hot hawk]

yea

:/

[plain siren]

Nothing you can setup internally alone to get around it

Unless you wanna call up your ISP and demand a static IP since their CG-NAT is "Causing issues with my Employers VPN Service and is affecting my ability to work"

"Internet is not functional, only accessible, payment declined until fixed"

[hot hawk]

naw isp is tmobile home internet

knew what I was getting into

so not happening

[plain siren]

Oh shit you just need to wait then

[hot hawk]

full ipv6 when

[plain siren]

The CG-NAT on Tmobile Residential was just a buffer while they straighten it out

That should be off before this year is over

[hot hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/717979132549660693.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=32

[plain siren]

Was also gonna say this, I know they have IPv6

And they give you direct IP's with v6

[hot hawk]

they have ipv6 but i think they do some dumb filtering

so cant rlly use it for hosting

r somthin idk am nob

[plain siren]

Heh, shows you who was actually smart engineering wise. The other big ISPs dont filter IPv6 despite doing so for IPv4 on things like Piracy and whatnot.... But T-Mobile knows that CG-NAT keeps the Home Internet Use fair by design and that some of their customers would be smart enough to realize IPv6 Bypasses that

Someone is following through with the details and design rollout if thats the case

[hot hawk]

ig

[plain siren]

I mean... Cell Towers are over-subscribed way past acceptable as it is... and Ingress Transit for Mobile Networking is expensive

It sure as hell reduces the infra costs for build out but only ends up working out if everyone is fair

[hot hawk]

i remember seeing a reddit post where some dude pulled 8tbs in one month on home internet

like what are u doing to get 8tb in one cycle

[plain siren]

I was on that thread, and yes it is Unlimited.... but imagine 100 people connecting to you pulling an 8TB file

[hot hawk]

lol

[plain siren]

Well thats a whole other story

Turned 8TB into 800TB

[hot hawk]

i mean tmobile has home internet at the lowest priority

so it prob didnt affect service too much

[plain siren]

Priority wouldnt help much either if everyone was suddenly hitting the service with constant max'd out data streams

[hot hawk]

perhaps

[plain siren]

Cell towers can only "hear" so many devices talking to it at once, so everyone has to take turns "Talking"

So even things like really tiny packets but sent at 0.001ms intervals to hold up the scheduler can be detrimental to the queue size and as a result... latency

Bandwidth is Second Priority to Latency in Mobile/RF Networking unlike Buried Cables and Physical Link Networks which instead relies on Bandwidth first, Latency Second (Due to it being the backbone and all that)

[hot hawk]

also any hardware recommendations for a nas + jellyfin/plex server

i was thinking a pi 4 then realized a used nuc can do the job 10x better for the same price

[plain siren]

Pi ... NAS.... Never could see how this was ever a good idea personally

But a Pi would make for a great Media Server that could Stream Videos over Plex once pulled from the Dedicated NAS

[hot hawk]

idk pi 4s are pretty power efficient

so not sure

[plain siren]

They dont have much bandwidth to give to SATA Ports for example for one

They would have to handle I/O + Networking + Encoding/Decoding and that is gonna choke it

[hot hawk]

i mean its just a hard drive

dont think it will saturate a 3.0 port

[hot hawk]

o

[plain siren]

I think there is only SATA 2 Capabilities for Pi4 rn

now, if you were using something like a Rk3399 based SBC (A Pi is a SBC).... that could work

[hot hawk]

so somthin like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Rockchip-Computer-Bluetooth-Connectivity-Dual-Display/dp/B09K3S647V/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=rk3399&qid=1643522823&sr=8-1

[plain siren]

Rockchip 3399 ARM64 Processor
2x 1.8GHz Cortex-A72 cores, 4x 1.4GHz Cortex-A53 cores, and a Mali-T860 GPU
5x SATA III interfaces

[plain siren]

Khadas Builds a RK3399 SBC in the RasPi Form Factor for way cheaper than what ASUS prices that at

https://www.khadas.com/edge-v

4K VPS, 4K 10-Bit HDR, H265/H264 @ 60FPS Decoding Capable

[hot hawk]

this has more ram doe?

4 gb

[plain siren]

The "Max" Version of the Edge-V has 4GB

And its DDR4

[hot hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/717979132549660693.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&size=32

[plain siren]

Mali T864 GPU:
OpenGL ES1.1/2.0/3.0/3.1, OpenVG1.1, OpenCL,
DX11 4K VP9 and 4K 10bits H265/H264 video decoders
60fps 1080P H.264 and VP8 video encoders

DirectX 11
OpenGL
Wait hold up

I gotta get mine out now.... Can I actually run a Linux Native DirectX Game on this thing

[vivid blaze]

sbc so small the sata ports look massive.

[slow pasture]

lookin to get a good budget wifi router, any suggestions?

[final minnow]

Depends on how fast your internet connection is?

[slow pasture]

the speed is at least 200, I want to improve it maybe

[waxen scroll]

🤔

[gusty dove]

What would be the oldest devices that support WPA3?

[plain siren]

Ive seen a few interesting CM4 Carriers

This being one of them.

[waxen scroll]

oooo cute

looks like a good home assistant device

[meager ginkgo]

You probably want a mesh system or a system with MoCa

[indigo cairn]

hey guys I have so I a house related ethernet problem. My wall socket in my room doesnt work when I connect a lan cable into it and my laptop

I dont have the slightest clue about this kind of stuff so any help will be greatly appreciated.

[scarlet ravine]

Are you using a power to ethernet adaptor or a plug that is in the wall?

[long thistle]

is it better than the pi?

[peak cloak]

Need to find where the cable goes

Is it even connected to anything

[hot hawk]

idk not familiar with arm stuff

Rouing recommended a rk3399 for nas and jellyfin

[slim arch]

you mean to tell me it doesnt magically get internet?

[peak cloak]

No, unfortunately

[long thistle]

https://shop.udoo.org/en/udoo-bolt-v8.html this one seems interesting

[indigo cairn]

yeah I figured it out thanks to @scarlet ravine the cables just arent connected to the wall sockets

[hollow marlin]

@plain siren If I remember correctly, not to long ago you mentioned getting VyOS built on a Pi. Were you able to test out it's performance?
I might pick up another Pi for VyOS ro FRR for a lab I have planned but I'm curious how well it handles under load

[waxen scroll]

[peak cloak]

I would try, but I only have a pi 3

[plain siren]

Yes, I gave lots of time to getting it to work... and honestly it sucked.

There was no hardware offloading, the performance was just trash..

Im working on getting it built for the Raspi CM4 Module and Various Rockchip based SBCs instead

[plain siren]

Yes but that one he listed is pretty expensive

https://www.amazon.com/Rockchip-Computer-Bluetooth-Support-Twister/dp/B095LGKP5J/
https://www.amazon.com/Khadas-Edge-V-Basic-LPDDR4-AP6356S/dp/B07V9LPTFB/
https://www.amazon.com/SmartFly-info-Computer-Dualband-Bluetooth/dp/B07X4646FM/

[hollow marlin]

Well that sucks. I wasn't expecting much in terms of forwarding performance but curious how it would handle full BGP tables. But sounds like its not worth getting it working in the first place right now

[plain siren]

Tbh, with the cost of a Raspi rn, you can get better anyways

[hollow marlin]

Tell me about it. 4GB Pi is almost double what I paid for it originally

Thats if you can get in stock

[plain siren]

And tbh its kinda underwhelming. it has massive community support but thats it.

While RasPi has made themselves a historical name by bringing this kinda shit to the market in an available fashion, they havent done much to keep on top

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/FriendlyElec-OpenWRT-Dual-Gbps-Ethernet-Gateway/dp/B08PV4228F/

Too bad they didnt add a M.2 PCIe Port for Wi-Fi Cards to run as an AP

[plain siren]

Thats exactly what I am going to use it for

The main Home Assistant Server and Admin UI Panel.

[slow pasture]

ok thank you

[hot hawk]

im thinking about setting up somthing like nextcloud for my nas, autho was wondering if there are any better software to use instead or is nextcloud the best

[plain siren]

Nextcloud is the Best

I use Nextcloud as my Sync and Management Service

[oak mountain]

Is Powerline a viable option if you have spotty wifi with your pc?

[cedar igloo]

Yes. The speeds will probably not be as fast, however it should be more reliable

[vale storm]

Hey! I have a Chinese Ethernet I/O device for temperature sensing. It has two Ethernet ports which are supposed to be used for communication. I have tried on both Windows and Linux to communicate with it but I can't find an IP to connect to. The device is called EMA8314R. Can anyone tell me how to find the IP?

[unborn sluice]

have you checked your DHCP server for client list

[vale storm]

What does that mean? I have checked with arp which devices are known...

[peak cloak]

it probobly gets IP by dhcp

so you need to have a dhcp server running on the subnet you connect it to

[vale storm]

Okay, can you point me to a tutorial where I can find out how to do that?

[peak cloak]

or just connect it to home network if you trust it

I don't know of any tutorial tbh

or find some old router you may have and connect it to that

[vale storm]

I tried it with a switch and I still couldn't find it

[peak cloak]

well a switch wouldn't work

[unborn sluice]

your switch doesn't give an ip

[peak cloak]

doesn't have a dhcp server

it just switches

[vale storm]

Okay, I don't have a router though.

[peak cloak]

you have a linux machine?

it's easiest on linux

[vale storm]

My setup is as follows: Machine on Linux connects via built-in LAN card to internet. I have a USB LAN adapter which I connect the device to.

[peak cloak]

ah ok

https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-dhcp

[vale storm]

And there are two eth links in ip link

[peak cloak]

you don't need option routers

[peak cloak]

perfect

make sure to change INTERFACESv4 to the right interfaces

don't want a dhcp conflict on main network

[vale storm]

isc-dhcp-server isn't found on openSUSE... I'll keep digging...

[peak cloak]

oh you on opensuse

[peak cloak]

https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/leap/reference/html/book-reference/cha-dhcp.html

yast even has a nice gui wizard it seems

don't need domain name, name servers, gateway, or ntp time server

and for the IP range, just make sure it doesn't conflict with main network

[vale storm]

Thanks! Unfortunately, the DHCP Server setup wizard doesn't find eth1...

[spare ledge]

Should I use a NUC as a pfSense? (only 1 NIC so need to get an external one via either USB or the nvme adapter)
Else, what is the smallest pfsense box that is available atm?

[peak cloak]

If you want to go small, don't go pfsense? Like dedicated solutions? But, there are some small network appliance boxes I've seen on amazon like https://www.amazon.com/Protectli-Vault-Firewall-Micro-Appliance/dp/B07G7GW2FB

[spare ledge]

oof ye that protectli spec is not ideal

maybe just gonna go with cheap optiplex + pcie nic

[viral gulch]

If the NUC is something you've already got then you could definitely do it without even needing the USB adapter

https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-1100/router-on-a-stick.html

Probably not something I'd recommend if you've not really done much with VLANs before, and it does require a smart switch, but if it's about using hardware you've already got then it's a solid solution

[spare ledge]

That's a really nice doc, never heard of VLAN before but that'll be a fun project

[viral gulch]

Yeah, that one seems to be aimed at people with Netgate's own SG-1100 hardware, but the concepts should be fairly general. And "Router-on-a-Stick" is the general term for configuring routing on a device with only one port, so you might find more help out there by searching for that.

[peak cloak]

vlans are basically little tags on top of a packet which tell the next device in the network what LAN they are part of

switches can have 1 port configured as trunk (tag everything) which would go to router, then it can untag the different vlans on different ports

[spare ledge]

Glad that TPLink has a cheap VLAN unmanaged switch

[peak cloak]

wait what

how does that work

you need to be able to manage it to configure VLANS

[spare ledge]

Idfk, SG108E

[peak cloak]

it is managed

[spare ledge]

Mb, I misread lol

[clever sigil]

I'm looking to get a PC to use as a combination router / nas. What kind of cheap hardware is recommended from this? I'm guessing even something used would work but idk where you even buy used hardware

looking to spend < 300$

[spare ledge]

r/hardwareswap, lurk for optiplex full tower

[carmine moss]

just any old prebuild used with 8gb of ram and an pci-e slot for a nic 2 pci-e slots if you want wireless and just an i5 should be good enough

[clever sigil]

I was planning on getting a ubiquiti or w/e for wireless

[peak cloak]

w/e ?

[clever sigil]

whatever

[peak cloak]

I would not combine router and nas, keep router seperate

that's an ez way for more downtime

[clever sigil]

i dont expect to touch it much

[peak cloak]

still, performance wise as well

would need to run router in VM and NAS in VM, it just gets messy

grab some edgerouter and it works

[clever sigil]

dont really need to virtualize here

[peak cloak]

would would it work then?

[hot hawk]

pretty sure any router that has a usb 3.0 port can do the job e

autho a different system for nas will prob be much faster

[clever sigil]

ya I know a router can do it but is prefer more control

I've flashed openwrt before but id rather just run pfsense or something

[hot hawk]

recommend getting your own system for a nas then

[clever sigil]

you can use 1 system for both. Its really not an issue imo

[peak cloak]

again, HIGHLY reccomend to keep router and NAS seperate

a mess waiting to happen imo

[hot hawk]

u can autho i dont think it would be a good router

and have fun configuring the router part

[peak cloak]

configuring router isn't that hard

[hot hawk]

unless u flash openwrt on it

[peak cloak]

pfsense, vyos, opnsense aren't that hard

[clever sigil]

not huge issue for me