networking

[thick minnow]

i wish i didnt live in US..Id like to live somewhere else now lol

[peak cloak]

I don't mind

[hollow marlin]

Excluding raw downloads our heaviest users struggle to burst~120mbps for more than a polling period.

[tender hazel]

^^^ Yup, exactly

lots of people think they need way more bandwidth than they actually need.. having 1Gbps doesn't really make the internet any faster in general than if you have 200-300Mbps.. it is only when you are doing a big download that you notice this

the high speed you are getting is only being used when you are downloading really large files that would take a long time in general.. for normal traffic it is no faster than if you had a 50Mbps connection.. or a 200Mbps connection

anybody who thinks that their 1Gbps service is "snappier" loading a webpage than their 200Mbps or 50Mbps connection is most likely experiencing the placebo effect

[hollow marlin]

A person with 100x100 COAX upgrading to 100x100 fiber will have a better experience than gig COAX.
Latency is underrated and since most gig services being offered are fiber, this is more likely the reason its "snappier".

People fail to realize that the internet has been pushing optimization for years, especially during the rise of smart phones where bandwidth was minimal. The whole goal is to use as little bandwidth as possible. Hell even the 4k requiring 50mbps is outdated.

I have been called a liar by customers with 10g dia when I show them how much bandwidth they actually use.

[tender hazel]

yes, exactly, because super low latency means that TCP gets to ramp up really quickly

so I agree completely, it is the decreased latency of the service instead of the higher total bandwidth that makes it feel snappier to customers

[clever dagger]

lol "already"

[hollow marlin]

That and TCP bandwidth delay product, where latency determines your throughput no matter what bandwidth you have

[tender hazel]

yeah, that's what I meant

TCP ramping up quickly = low latency for bandwidth delay product

[hoary valley]

I just got shit internet 🤣

Service

[snow lance]

i have this tts ai that runs locally

and i go to this ip

is there a way to open this up for wan?

[plain siren]

Why be a god when you can be a King? Atleast the King is a real thing.

[snow lance]

what

yes or no

[snow lance]

thats not yes or no

[plain siren]

I wasnt responding to the question, just responding to the pic's question

[snow lance]

ah lmfao

i thought it was some metaphor

[plain siren]

Port forwarding is the answer you are looking for

IF and only IF you are not behind a CG-NAT.

[snow lance]

yep i figured, but how would i let it like that

[snow lance]

what thta

[plain siren]

so port forwarding works like this:
You got one Public IP which you have to share with many Machines.
Each machine has a Private IP.

Your application runs on a Machine with Private IP:Port

Port forwarding says: All Incoming Traffic on public IP:port gets redirected to Private IP:Port

that way you can have something like
Public IP:Port A > Machine X:Port
Public IP:Port B > Machine Y:Port
etc

You would login to your ISP Router or Gateway and set this up

[plain siren]

Basically, Your ISP treats all its customers like your Home LAN Treats all its Machines

So you share a public IP with many people

tracert 1.1.1.1
in cmd

if one of the IP's in the Tracert is like 10.100.X.X or 100.64.X.X, you are behind CG-NAT

[peak cloak]

yes and no

I had a public IP once, but in all traceroutes there would be a 10.x.x.x IP

[plain siren]

These kinds of network setups make me wanna bash the Metro Network Engineer

[peak cloak]

it was atlice/optimum

[plain siren]

I already got a golf club with their name on it, so were good.

[worthy orbit]

@snow lance Basically you have an internal IP address(most likely in the range 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.253) that you can see by typing ipconfig in command prompt. This is the range your router uses to assign ip addresses to all the connected devices. Then the router also has a public ip like 76.138.56.134 it will use to talk to the internet. So if you're away from home and you want to talk with your home network you would use 76.138.56.134, but it wouldn't know what to do with that request. So inside the router settings we put an ip forward such as port 8050 is assigned to ip address 192.168.1.1. Now if we type 76.138.56.134:8050 in the browser it will know to use the local service on 192.168.1.1 with port 8050.

by typing ipconfig in command prompt it will also show the default gateway, if you put that in your browser the router settings will come up

[peak cloak]

yep, now this gets all different with ipv6

[worthy orbit]

if anyone has fixes, addins please do

[worthy orbit]

Yeah this will be a lot of crying

[peak cloak]

how

[worthy orbit]

subnetting

[peak cloak]

it's easier

just add firewall rule, done

and use DNS, I ain't gonna remember those ips

[plain siren]

Ipv6 is the best thing to happen to NAT.... Its destruction.

[peak cloak]

technically, you don't need firewall in the first place... but that's like super bad to do

[plain siren]

Each Machine with Ipv6 is Publicly routable with that IPv6 which makes it great

All the ports or avail... meaning standard port use across multiple host
No NAT
No NAT
did I mention No NAT?

And you dont have to have DHCP

Oh yeah, and No NAT

[peak cloak]

now there is NPT

which is kinda needed if you don't own and adveritse your own prefixes and need dual WAN or something like that

[plain siren]

And Virtual Sub-Networks like Docker Networks

The nice thing about it is, its easy to read tho

Your Host portion of the IPv6 remains the same

[snow lance]

ye i have done port forwarding before

but how would i do port forwarding for this

just open port 8050 and give ppl my public ip?

with port 8050

[worthy orbit]

yes

[plain siren]

@peak cloak Would you say the Link Local is a form of NPT?

[snow lance]

oh well thats simple lmao

[peak cloak]

yes, but then they would need to do http:1.2.3.4:8050

[snow lance]

yeye i do that with my media server

aight now i just need to make port forwarding work it died a week ago

[peak cloak]

if you don't want to provide the port every time, you have to make it port 80 and/or setup SSL certs and port 443

[plain siren]

Could setup a Reverse Proxy to utilize 443/80 and let the Reverse Proxy handle internal routing to the right machine

[peak cloak]

that too

[peak cloak]

so you can have multiple machines utlize port 80

[peak cloak]

best really is to see WAN IP, well first 2 octets really are needed

you have a mtik right from what I remember?

[plain siren]

They really need to stop exposing their vLAN Tags in their DNS Names publicly

[peak cloak]

lol

[plain siren]

"Yeah we the ISP people, we make the internet 'whole' for everyone.... also were trash at it and insecure at times too.... but were the most important link of the internet"

These people are supposed to be the best at what they do

[snow lance]

yes

[snow lance]

lmao

[snow lance]

what's that

[snow lance]

I have a URL thing

ddns

that I use for my ip then I'll just add :8050

[peak cloak]

yeah that works

[civic elk]

what danger would that pose?

[waxen scroll]

zero

[plain siren]

Abstraction Reversal

[somber crescent]

idk if this counts as networking but j got my new pc not too long ago and i’m using a wifi dongle for wifi, my other devices like my xbox and my phone get fast connection in my room but my pc has high latency and slow downloads. does anyone know what i can try do to fix it? ik ethernets better but it’s not rly possible for me right now. ty

[hoary valley]

I use a 150ft cable

Also your dongle might not be that good

Or location

Or things in-between the router and PC

[somber crescent]

loll

[somber crescent]

i don’t think the dongle is the problem but it might be the other two

idk how to fix that tho especially when it works with other things

[snow lance]

I remember when I had a dongle too

one of those shitty usb ones

3 mbps internet, my phone got 30

got a cable and instantly went to a stable 95 all the time

what WiFi dongle do you have

if you rly can't get a cable you should get a proper WiFi pcie adapter

[tall pagoda]

39 years ago the Internet switched to TCP/IP protocol

[hoary valley]

I gotta say udp/mac is definitely the way to go

[hoary valley]

Or you could get a fiber adapter and hook that shit up run it 20kilomrtors kek

[long thistle]

and then a new era has started

[civic elk]

Anybody does content delivery networks?

[true nova]

this is my favorite channel to look at whenever i want to feel clueless

[twilit marsh]

Is there a fiber optic internet to coaxial converter?

[civic elk]

Yes

[low pond]

You call them Media Converters AFAIK

Which fiber interface? I know for sure normal Ethernet to coaxial exists

[twilit marsh]

I might switch to another internet provider

My previous uses coaxial

I dont want to break my whole house for the cables

Since the cables are in a mansory wall

the other providers will be using fiber optic

[low pond]

They probably will only use fiber till your modem, or router. It's normal Ethernet after that

(basically you could use your existing stuff in your home)

[peak cloak]

Well it's complicated

They don't do fiber around the house

It's fiber to the home

So you would have an ONT somewhere where fiber will terminate and be converted to Ethernet

From there you can use moca adapters to do ethernet over coax

In the end tho, it can be cheaper and in the end easier to run Ethernet

[civic elk]

Thinking of investing in a NAS. Would be my first venture into these. End goal is to build a private cloud of sorts.

Looking at having virtual machines on the NAS, with remote access capability using VPN.

What do you guys think? Any recommendations or advice?

[peak cloak]

I would advise NAS and VM hosting to be seperate if possible

[clear igloo]

Just don't reload your NAS if it's hosting VMs without powering them off first 😄

[civic elk]

Any issue that will arise?

[peak cloak]

like it's nice to have bare metal truenas for example, and then for VMs something like proxmox

[peak cloak]

NAS software isn't great for VMs

[civic elk]

Ah

Lemme search up proxmox

Other than rack unit servers, from what i understand, PC could be used for VM yeah?

I was thinking of starting off by using NAS only first, then scaling up if necessary.

[peak cloak]

I mean my servers are just 2 business desktops

[civic elk]

Business desktops?

[peak cloak]

like optiplex 3010

hp prodesk

no special hardware

[civic elk]

Ahh

[digital urchin]

I'm trying to get it to where I can access the files on any of my computers from any of my computers. I feel like I'm pretty close to the finish line. But I got to the point where I'm trying to access the harddrive and I get this error and I don't know what to do.

[high crystal]

On the host machine do you have the share permissions set correctly?

[digital urchin]

Is this what you are asking me?

[high crystal]

I meant the folder you're sharing

[high crystal]

hmm

wait are you sharing the whole drive?

[digital urchin]

Yeah

Sharring an individual folder didn't fix things.

Don't know what I did, but it's working now

[high crystal]

That's good to hear

[thick minnow]

hello how i can get my NAT type ?

[peak cloak]

I don't understand what those even mean lol

[clear igloo]

NAT type is some garbage made up by console makers to say you either have UPNP enabled/disabled or are behind CGNAT or not from what I can tell

[thick minnow]

guys can i somehow check if my isp is supporting ipv6 ?

[clear igloo]

https://ipv6-test.com/

[thick minnow]

do i need to enable this in my router ?

[clear igloo]

Yes

If they don't it won't break anything

[thick minnow]

on both routers i have ?

[clear igloo]

Well yes

[thick minnow]

okay thanks

[clear igloo]

I hope you're not doing router >> router though

unless you disabled DHCP and other services so it's not handing out addresses or doing NAT

[thick minnow]

iam

i have wan > router > router > my pc

is that very bad ?

[clear igloo]

Then you need to disable DHCP/NAT on the router to your PC

[thick minnow]

will the first router give me one ? and devices on wireless

[clear igloo]

Leave the first router alone, that will hand out addresses fine

[thick minnow]

okay

jo just disabe dhcp server on second one

like this.. and that is all do i need to restart it ? it didnt need it

[clear igloo]

You shouldn't need to restart anything, just disable should be it

[thick minnow]

okay

[clear igloo]

The biggest issue is doing NAT from router 1 to router 2 because that puts you behind double nat which can cause issues with some services, if you're not plugged into the WAN port on the second router (the one to your PC) then it's not doing NAT and you're fine

[thick minnow]

i ment like strict NAT, moderate NAT..

[clear igloo]

NAT isn't strict/moderate/etc. it's just NAT, consoles for some absurd reason try to use it instead of just telling you the issues with the connection

[thick minnow]

oh okay

[thick minnow]

read something on forums but yeah there were consoles implemented too

so if i don't now have double NAT what is the result

i should be able to connect to lets say minecraft server right ? on this pc i can connect on it wia ::1

[clear igloo]

If you don't have double NAT now then nothing, if you're behind double nat now then removing it (so just single NAT) would probably make things work better (voice and whatnot usually) on console and multiplayer games

[thick minnow]

great that is kind of useful

okay so i went with this tutorial https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/l35612/ipv6_support_for_minecraft/

[clear igloo]

The good thing about IPv6 though is there isn't (SHOULD NEVER BE) NAT in a default setting 🙂

[thick minnow]

stuck on 4. on my laptop connected wired to same router as this pc i can connect with 192.168.0.77(my ip)

[thick minnow]

yeah that is why iam trying to do this

[clear igloo]

Ok, so you can connect to your local IPv4 address but not with the IPv6 address locally at least?

[thick minnow]

nono i need to send the ipv6 on my discord 😄

[clear igloo]

from the laptop to the PC that is

[thick minnow]

give me like 1minute

[clear igloo]

sure

[thick minnow]

is it this one right ?

[clear igloo]

Ah, that's a link local address

[thick minnow]

it start with fe

well all start with fe 😄

[clear igloo]

Yah, link local always starts with FE, so you don't have any public IPv6 addresses

[thick minnow]

oh in adapter settings something ?

[thick minnow]

oh okay right

well scam

[clear igloo]

A public IPv6 address would be somwhere in the 2000: to 2ffff: range (I think that's the current usable range right now for public I can't remember if 3000 to 3fff is open yet)

[thick minnow]

my ISP on their web wrote its okay for wired connections(without public ip)

[clear igloo]

IP doesn't care wired or wireless so long as you get a prefix (block) from your ISP, the router should hand them out to all clients

[thick minnow]

there "In what situation do I get an IPv6 address at Vodafone?
The IPv6 address is used by most Wired Internet customers over a wired network (unless the customer has a public IP address). For other types of connections, it is ending."

uh google trans..

[clear igloo]

I think they're saying IPv4 (public address) connections on cellular are ending

but wireline (fiber/copper/coax/etc) and wireless (cell) should all have IPv6 on Vodafone now

[thick minnow]

uh i use DSL is that one of them ?

[clear igloo]

Yup, copper

[thick minnow]

i use phone lines yet my speed is terrible

[clear igloo]

Yah, that's about right for DSL 🙂

[thick minnow]

oh okay great so should i call my ISP ?

[thick minnow]

or could it be xDSL too ?

[clear igloo]

You shouldn't need to, enabling IPv6 on the first router should get an IPv6 block just fine

yah, that's still a wire

[thick minnow]

oh i forgot to enble it on first one

[clear igloo]

😄 that helps

[thick minnow]

in which settings it could be ?

idk if it supports ipv6 but on box i think its there

[peak cloak]

if you are doing double nat, v6 won't work

if it's just doing basic layer2 stuff, you shouldn't need any additional settings

[clear igloo]

good question, nothing says WAN that I see which is what I'd look for first

[thick minnow]

ipv6 wan host ?

[clear igloo]

Yah

[thick minnow]

ih has ipv6 settings it does support it

so IPv6 WAN Host right ?

[clear igloo]

Yah, check there first

[thick minnow]

iam not sure if its this one

[clear igloo]

Hmmm, what model is your main router?

the one from vodafone

[thick minnow]

bit old router like 2-3yrs

[clear igloo]

ok, 1 sec

[thick minnow]

there all about ipv6

BUT wait i have one switch and this one router i could be able to replace first router with second one and second one with that switch

https://www.tp-link.com/cz/home-networking/dsl-modem-router/td-w9970b/#specifications

[clear igloo]

thanks 🙂

[thick minnow]

in cz but parameters are in en

btw @thick minnow mention me i dont have notifications on only sounds.. ill be back in 1min

[clear igloo]

@thick minnow Check under IPv6 LAN

Need to step away for a bit, be back in about 30 mins

[thick minnow]

okay so just checked that switch and its just fine even taking data trough it(by that i mean i can connect to my server(ipv4))

[clear igloo]

Nice!

[thick minnow]

oh u back

[clear igloo]

So what's the end goal, I forgot to ask, host a minecraft server on IPv6 network?

[thick minnow]

right

but i didnt put server-ip so it listens on localhost and ::1 too

[clear igloo]

Yup, that's correct

So now to get IPv6 enabled on your router 🙂

[peak cloak]

I don't think java has offical v6 support btw

but people say it works

never tested it myself

[thick minnow]

idk but it works for me too

[clear igloo]

Yah, that's what I saw too

[thick minnow]

i can connect just fine

there ingame

[clear igloo]

Yah but ::1 is just 127.0.0.1 for IPv6

[thick minnow]

ik

or localhost is same as 127.0.0.1

[clear igloo]

Better test would be connecting across the LAN

correct

[thick minnow]

yeah

[peak cloak]

was gonna test to my self but it's on a different vlan and would require more work so meh

[clear igloo]

lol, yah

[clear igloo]

Doh, I see where to go now

[thick minnow]

so in first place i need to get my ipv6 adress now

[clear igloo]

Network > WAN Settings > Enable IPv6 > DHCPv6

[thick minnow]

oh okay

[peak cloak]

DHCPv6?

[peak cloak]

oh dhcp-pd

[clear igloo]

Yah

[thick minnow]

right

ah that little button

[clear igloo]

yes

[thick minnow]

good

it connected 😄 my net disconnected for while

[clear igloo]

Now go there and set it as pictured 🙂

[clear igloo]

Interesting, you should have IPv6 now 🙂

Check that before setting IPv6 LAN, might not need to mess with it

ipv6-test.com
This should work if you have IPv6 now

[thick minnow]

i see you used ADSL is there diff. if i use VDSL ?

[clear igloo]

Nope, just a generic picture online 😄

[thick minnow]

oh okayis there difference anyways ?

[clear igloo]

There is, ADSL and VDSL are different technologies

one supports faster speeds, I just don't remember which off hand

[thick minnow]

VDSL should be faster

but i think i use VDSL2

[high crystal]

VDSL is usually closer to the node ADSL is usually the last mile

[clear igloo]

Sounds about right

[thick minnow]

not my router tho 😄

[thick minnow]

okay so ipconfig in cmd right ?

or may i restart router ?

[clear igloo]

yah, or you can check ipv6-test.com and see if it says IPv6 is working

[thick minnow]

it did restart connection

[clear igloo]

I would check that website first before restarting the router, it might already be working

[thick minnow]

right still no IPv6 results i will restart router asap other users are online 🙂

[clear igloo]

No worries, I would check and set the IPv6 LAN stuff too before rebooting

[thick minnow]

oh okay lets do that 🙂

[clear igloo]

Network > IPv6 LAN Settings
RADVD
Delegated
and there should only be one option for Prefix Delegation WAN connection

perfect, already setup 😄

[thick minnow]

😄

[clear igloo]

Yah, so once you're able to reboot the router and you should, if it's working right, give you a public IPv6 after this

[thick minnow]

okay ill just wait as users disconnect

could take a while

[clear igloo]

Yah, no worries, DM or tag me here if you don't get an IPv6 address after the reboot

[thick minnow]

yeah still no adress

so reboot is most prob. needed

[clear igloo]

yah

[thick minnow]

on second router too.. still no adress

[clear igloo]

Yah, that one doesn't worry me as much, it should pass right through there

[thick minnow]

then its fine 🙂

[clear igloo]

Yah, main router is the focus and once that's rebooted and we (hopefully) have an address it should work

[thick minnow]

thanks. I am 15 and only one who does networking in house 😄

[clear igloo]

network go brrrrr
😄

[thick minnow]

yah

[thick minnow]

not so much with my snail int. speed 😄

btw as soon as we got on VDSL its much more stable + as we switched an engineer had to come and test cables and the problem was in pole like 5houses far and he had to reconnect our cable to diff. line 😄 it was broken most prob.

[clear igloo]

Stable is really good, that's key
Speed helps though

[thick minnow]

😄 true

• when there is no internet i have simple solution enable LTE on my phone use USB and go with 100Mb/s down and 55Mb/s up 😄

[clear igloo]

Nice! LTE is good too, helps when you don't have good wired connection

although usually has data caps 😦

[thick minnow]

i used it on my phone but we don't want LTE we have great speeds but well stability+ping in winter snow ? that could end badly with massive lags(not in these days technology but anyways cable is more stable)

[clear igloo]

Yah, cable is good for games but LTE for downloads if you don't have the speed

[thick minnow]

well not a problem for me its 5* faster than my current speed 😄 its something about 6.1MB/s and my current is 2.3MB/s

[clear igloo]

Nice! data caps are evil!

[thick minnow]

yeah but then its fair for everyone

[clear igloo]

It depends, usually they do it just because $$$$

[thick minnow]

true

but iam happy i live with this speed

[clear igloo]

yah, could be much worse

[thick minnow]

example. no internet at all 😄

[clear igloo]

dial-up noises play in the background

[thick minnow]

😄

when there is no int. i go outside very simple solution i recommend too 😄

[clear igloo]

Haha, yes, stepping away from it all is good too, can't forget the outside from time to time

[thick minnow]

i tried more than 10 times pointlessly port forward ipv4 minecraft server when knowing iam under cgnat 😄

[clear igloo]

yah, CGNAT is no good for forwarding

[thick minnow]

well its impossible to do so ..

but i think ipv6 is different right ?

i shouldnt be limited anywhere

[clear igloo]

Not exactly, you CAN but the ISP has to be willing to forward the port too

Correct, IPv6 has NAT but it shouldn't be used in like 99% of cases
I've done it and seen it done in limited scenarios

[thick minnow]

and if not i still could call my ISP for some information.

[clear igloo]

That is correct

[thick minnow]

on their web they say its working on wired connections so i hope it works for me as well 😄

i live next to city with 1gbit 😄

[clear igloo]

Yah, it should but cross fingers just to be safe

[thick minnow]

so my brother is playing and its 23o'clock here so iam going sleep tomorrow ill @mention you and ill se if you up and in same time ill reboot okay ? 🙂

[clear igloo]

haha, sounds good, later!

[thick minnow]

later! cya!

hey Lurick i turned off pc and suddenly internet crashed too ;D any reson to that ?

[clear igloo]

Not that I can think of, nope

[thick minnow]

i think my router has problems with dhcp server

[clear igloo]

Hmmm, it shouldn't

[thick minnow]

have to enable real quick

[clear igloo]

ok

[thick minnow]

my phone tells /cant get ip xd

[clear igloo]

How is the second router (the one that goes to your PC) connected to the first?

If it's via cable does it connect via the WAN port on the second router? If it does then that's why

[thick minnow]

no its wan>first router>second router> pc + most wireless devices

[clear igloo]

I meant on the second router, does the cable go into the WAN port

[thick minnow]

and i think as soon as dhcp clients list changed it crashed

[thick minnow]

from first router ? yes

but i think about it

[clear igloo]

So WAN > first router > (cable) > (WAN port) second router

[thick minnow]

its dumb idea a bit

[clear igloo]

Yah, if you move it off the WAN port to a LAN port then it should work fine afterwards. In this case the DHCP server was turned off and that second router wasn't sending DHCP requests to the first router to give out IPs for clients

[thick minnow]

wan(wanport of router) > cable (wanpott of router) > pc

yeah

[clear igloo]

Yup, change the cable on the second router to a LAN port instead and it should be fine 🙂

[thick minnow]

noww i realise ...for now its on shcp and ill so it tomorrow

[clear igloo]

That's fine 🙂

Yup, so long as it's working for now can deal with the rest later, lol

[thick minnow]

my brother has abstination for pc i had to rq fix it xd

[thick minnow]

fun

[clear igloo]

Yup, get it fixed quick and then go back and fix it better later 😄

[thick minnow]

exactly

[thick minnow]

and that forever loop resulting in half way fix being permanent

[clear igloo]

That's about right

[thick minnow]

xd

well iam going to take quick snack then sleep and write you tmrw most probably DM

[clear igloo]

Sounds good, later!

[thick minnow]

or you preffer this chat ?

[clear igloo]

DM is fine

[thick minnow]

okay

[waxen scroll]

You're braver than I

[mortal willow]

does anyone know why battle.net downloads are so slow?

[primal ice]

centralized servers. everyone goes to the same place.

[thick minnow]

guys is switch better than router working like switch ?

[waxen scroll]

no, it should be the same unless the routers hardware is really crappy

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

wat is dis?

[sudden kayak]

lmao

[rocky badge]

some stupid guy trying to use a blackmagic sdi video converter for internet @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

HA, wow

I didn't see the blackmagic so thought someone was just trying to convert coax to fiber or something but yah, that's hilarious

[rocky badge]

it will be black magic if they get it working

[waxen scroll]

my understanding is its some other protocol, not ethernet

its ethernet-like but needs to be PTP

[sudden kayak]

i dont even think the question as presented makes sense without details on how they're attempting to set it up

[rocky badge]

Probably smpte

[sudden kayak]

like, iirc SDI video uses a completely different connector and cable from anything we use in the cable industry

it's BNC for video almost exclusively

[rocky badge]

blackmagic loves smpte with their own stuff injected into it

[rocky badge]

BNC vs F Type

Different resistance on the cabling too

[sudden kayak]

yeah

it would not even get a signal through, even if you had some crazy custom modem

that said i kinda wish there was something like this

i would kill for like. low-cost and low complexity point to point modern ethernet over coax

my whole apartment is wired up with coax for cable.. but i dont own a single tv or cable box

moca adapters are crazy expensive for no good reason

[rocky badge]

I mean, that's MoCA lol.

[sudden kayak]

well

i guess what i really want is literally just "moca but open standard"

arguably it could be a lot simpler if it was just point to point

[cinder canopy]

mwahahahaha

I bet even faster than linus's internet at the office

[slow pivot]

I don't wonder if a PTP connection between two wifi cards would work. Would need a 10-20dB attenuator at least in there but.. yeah

Like a physical cable with a 20dB attenuator directly connecting two wifi cards

[sudden kayak]

ooh i kinda love that idea lmao .... that would be fun to try out

[slow pivot]

If you do, would need to make sure the power handling of the attenuator would be in the 50W range to be safe

I should measure the output power of a b/g antenna. My power meter is old though so I can only get a rough average peak value

[long thistle]

i don't think so

[peak cloak]

Xiber isn't the ISP anyway, just the server but I looked at it, and it seems bad

marketing fixed wireless as better than fiber

[long thistle]

lol

[peak cloak]

How much do all of the cables of traditional Internet companies weigh? And how much do they cost to install? Well, a lot. And your signal has to travel through all of it. We chucked out all the unnecessary cable when we built our hybrid fiber and fixed wireless nationwide network. So, the Internet gets to you at close to lightspeed with single-digit latency and 99.99% uptime

[long thistle]

still i have better upload

[peak cloak]

[peak cloak]

ah hello fellow Polish person

so many polish people

[long thistle]

hi

[peak cloak]

I heard poland had pretty good internet

[long thistle]

but only fiber

unless you live in city center

then you can get 200 Mbps LTE

but

it sucks

20 ms ping? no thanks

[peak cloak]

idc too much about mobile data

as long as it's good enough for voice, text, messaging, etc.

[long thistle]

i had LTE in my house to march 2021

and it really really really sucked

[peak cloak]

oh like for home internet

ouch

[long thistle]

max. 20 Mbps ping 40

[peak cloak]

I mean it's no different in rural america either

[long thistle]

with 5+ base stations <1 km away

[cinder canopy]

not even my real internet anyway

that's running off of microsofts servers

I have an azure vm

my real internet is at least gigabit

[civic elk]

U can run 3g-sdi over fiber

[sudden kayak]

yes but you can't run internet over SDI

[civic elk]

Of course

There are application with 3g-sdi for studio interconnect or content delivery

[sudden kayak]

yes

[slow pivot]

mind you, you can just run an ethernet cable between two machines and with a bit of manual network config, you have a PTP connection between the two.

[rapid urchin]

This is a weird question but I need a VPN that I can use infinitely on all my devices for free

[civic elk]

Infinitely?

[rapid urchin]

Yes

Well at least a tear

Year*

I'm guessing it's not possible right?

[civic elk]

Theres open source vpn like openvpn

[slow pivot]

VPN as in access remotely a single network securely, or VPN as in access the internet in a "somewhat-ish" anonymous way?

[peak cloak]

well that's a protocol

people's defentition of vpn is pretty different, thanks to misleading marketing

[rapid urchin]

um im not sure (im no expert in networking) but i am basically trying to bypass Netgear Circle parental control and using a vpn like psiphon or hotspot shield works, but their slow or not infinite

[zinc heron]

what is the best pcie wifi card?

[jolly furnace]

I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with a PFSense issue that i've got...

[low pond]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[jolly furnace]

It's not the sort of story that needs to fill this chat. If someone were to put their hand up, i'd PM them. That seems like the best practice way to handle it don't you think? Or is being a dolt the better option?

[low pond]

No one will "put their hand up" this is a moving chat, people will dump their questions, the people who want to answer it will do it.

Good luck having anyone DM you first for your issues (maybe DM'ing them first can help, but not always anyway)

[jolly furnace]

perhaps you should read my comments a little clearer, if they were to put their hand up, i'd PM them. Take a walk, you're clearly not here to help.

[low pond]

Okay then, good luck :D learn it with experience if not from other's experience, no issues with that anyway

[whole trout]

Dealing with a new router, slightly new to this, don't care if I get another "https://dontasktoask.com/" prompt from anyone, but Bridge Mode or Wireless Bridge Mode?

If you respond, please ping or mention me. I want to get immediate notifications. Please and thank you.

[fading oar]

hai
im setting up my own nextcloud instance on rockylinux, but i cant figure out how to use add an additional hardrive to nextcloud on the same machine, can anyone help?

[jolly furnace]

@mystic hull @keen haven
This sort of garbage shouldn't need to be prefaced with a genuine question. Linus was always wanting a genuine place where users could get proper advice and help. The trolls should be booted straight away on a no tolerance policy... just my two cents. EOD

[plain siren]

I think you missed the point of the message here

It's a help us help you kind of thing

It further divulges into how to actually ask a good question.

The whole point of the comment is to educate not to actually be in jest.

So let's just all calm down lol

[civic elk]

Bridge if hooked up with physical link between them, wireless bridge if without if im not wrong

[whole trout]

Yes, you are totally correct.

Although I'm figuring stuff out with someone right now, I'm gonna try to come back here if nothing comes clear my way.

[near remnant]

Looking for some help with port-forwarding a minecraft server.
I've gone in and allocated both TCP/UDP to 25565 which is the standard for that.
I've set it to my personal desktop as the device and yet the port doesn't appear open.
Is there some other step I am missing here?

pretty much what the settings are. I don't have a TCP/UDP option so had to set it twice.

[unborn sluice]

#tech-support

[near remnant]

Urgh I just posted there

and was told to repost here

[unborn sluice]

Why

[near remnant]

I honestly don't know

But now I'm confused

[unborn sluice]

Anyways

So yeah, port forwarding huh.
How are you checking if the port is open

[near remnant]

nowyouseeme.org

[clear igloo]

Is the server actually powered on and listening on that port?

[near remnant]

sorry - canyouseeme*

[unborn sluice]

Do you have another pc to check if it's accessible even internal network

[clear igloo]

Seen some people with their MC server off and checking if the ports were open

[unborn sluice]

Legend

Also check your firewall. I assume you're using windows

[near remnant]

I'll check it out. Yeah my firewall for windows is actually disabled

just for now for testing purposes

But I'll run the server and see if it connects

[unborn sluice]

So the server currently isn't running?

[near remnant]

Sorry I meant it was running

but I turned it off a moment ago, the server as active in the background

but it wasn't being detected

[unborn sluice]

Detected by what

[near remnant]

by the port check tool. and also i couldn't even load into it for some reason.

i will post more information

[unborn sluice]

Can you post like the status that the server is actually listening

[clear igloo]

How are you trying to load into it? With another machine locally using the local IP?

[near remnant]

I'm loading into it just through my personal PC. Only have the one

yep via my local IP

[unborn sluice]

127.x ip or 192.x

[clear igloo]

Yah, I would check local connectivity first, if that's having issues then try to fix that first

[unborn sluice]

But anyways, need to show the proof that it is actually listening

[near remnant]

192.x

will do a moment!

i'll @ again - need to reboot and recreate

[clear igloo]

ok

netstat -a | findstr 25565
If windows
Ctrl + C to exit

[near remnant]

@clear igloo @unborn sluice okay rebooted and remade. Just to confirm I'm using my local visible IP address?

[clear igloo]

Yes

[near remnant]

Okay. Now it's actually working!

I just rebooted because I didn't know if that would fix things after installing the server program

But I guess it did... >.> <.<

[clear igloo]

Haha, well glad it's working 😄

[unborn sluice]

[near remnant]

Pretty awesome thanks to both of you. One last question in regards to this

Let's say I'm offline and a friend wanted to hop into the server.

Do I need to leave it running in the background for them to join?

[unborn sluice]

Yes, your pc and the server needs to be running 24/7 or atleast when someone needs to play

[clear igloo]

Yup

[near remnant]

Oh okay. Makes sense

[unborn sluice]

Electricity bill go brrrr

[near remnant]

Thanks again both for helping me out here.

Much appreciated!

[sweet pawn]

can i use DHCP function on my router to assign a private ip on my local machine and make it so that it doesnt change the private ip

like it changed from 192.168.0.101 to 102 or 103 sometimes, can i just have 1

[unborn sluice]

yes, you can

[sweet pawn]

says "invalid mac address format"

ipconfig/all should give me my mac address right?

[civic elk]

Yes. Dont forget the colons

[sweet pawn]

got it, thanks

[waxen scroll]

@plain siren architect said hell no

he said later on they're gonna launch something but not right now

[plain siren]

Lol

[waxen scroll]

they have a team built to research v6 but nothing actionable right now

gonna get added to it

[plain siren]

Why is it so difficult

I believe change is just hard because it's change for some

[waxen scroll]

its a large business so I have to get some approvals and it has to be recorded in our systems as a project I can bill time against

we also have a change control process so if I did none of that it would get caught up in there

I find that often times IPv6 gets caught up in an architect who doesnt really want to do it or the security team who doesnt want to deal with it

@clear igloo firewall people.

Imagine being on a huge change call with a bunch of IT people and dropping "Oh yeah, i'm turning on ipv6"

[unborn sluice]

hard is change

[clear igloo]

block none of the things? 😄

[dry bronze]

Just do it on a Friday of a holiday weekend and leave. It'll be fine.

[snow lance]

what kinda cable should i get for short range 10 gbps like 20 meter

[peak cloak]

Sfp+ interface?

Or rj45

[snow lance]

rj45

15m actually

is cat6a fine?

[peak cloak]

Should be

[snow lance]

aight ill order thanks

[clear igloo]

Cat6 or Cat6a would be fine

[snow lance]

ye i got a cat6a

[clear igloo]

That's perfect then 🙂

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo iptables is a pain in my ass

[clear igloo]

yup

[low pond]

Ip tables is beauty

We should have a course only dedicated to using it

[somber crescent]

I FINALLY FIXED MY INTERNET

ended up buying a 20 metre ethernet cable all the way across my house.

[low pond]

c:

[sweet pawn]

i want to access sftp server online, is it possible

[thick minnow]

I want to do this. My switch manual says it can be accessed at 192.168.1.3. And I can access its web gui when only the switch is connected. But when I connect my router cable. My PC starts to access the router bypassing the switch and I can not access it anymore.

What kinda settings I should look for in my switch web gui.

[peak cloak]

what switch

[thick minnow]

zyxel gs1200-5

[peak cloak]

what is the subnet the router is using for LAN?

[thick minnow]

mask 255.255.255.0
ips 192.168.0.2-192.168.0.254

[peak cloak]

well that makes sense

you are trying to access an IP that isn't in the IP range when connected

go into the switch settings and make it get an IP from DHCP or set a static IP in your LAN subnet which isn't being used for anything else. I reccomend going the DHCP route

then go into router, find the list of devices connected, and you should see the switch there, and connect to it's IP

[thick minnow]

enabled DHCP

is it ok now?

192.168.0.1 is my routers ip

switch ip is 192.168.0.203 but 169.254.14.148 is ip of connected to the switch computer.

Anyway it works now, so Thank You.

but I still do not understand whats going on

and traceroute does not work on 192.168.0.203

[peak cloak]

Wdym

[peak cloak]

A switch does no routing, that should be what you get from router

If you do a traceroute to router ofc you won't see 192.168.0.203 because it's not getting routed through the switch. For all the router and pc sees, they are directly connected

[mild turtle]

In need of some help. I have a router that has a cat6 running to a switch. The switch then has multiple cables that run up a wall through several floors connecting multiple devices for different people. We've recently had an extension and someone is moving out into a room. I'm wanting to run a cable from the switch out into that room and then hooking up a switch. The second switch in the new room would have multiple connections but also allow me to run my own through the wall and down the garden to my "shed" where I work. Would I have any issues with doing this?

I should mention that I'd want to transfer files from indoors down to my work space and vice versa.

[pulsar thorn]

As long as you have the route there it should be fine

I’m also presuming you’d be running your network at 1Gb?

[mild turtle]

If I understand you correctly the answer would be yes. My motherboards run at 1gbit and the current switch I have supports gigabit too so as far as I know that along with the cable should allow gigabit, no?

[primal ice]

yes it would work as long as the second switch is also 1gb ports. well it would work if the second switch was slower - you would just get slower speeds in the shed.

[cinder canopy]

Any advice on how to get windstream to send out another tech?

I've isolated the problem down to somewhere between the tap and the modem(new modem, neighbor on same tap getting correct speeds)

[waxen scroll]

yep. pull the power on their device call it in and "yeah the building has power"

[cinder canopy]

basically had to do that

except for I left the device plugged in and kept saying, yes I am connected directly to the modem through an ethernet cable

I can't believe a T1 tech cannot create a ticket to dispatch a tech

they had to spend an hour talking with their internal team

[pine carbon]

I have a question

I am thinking about hosting a server in USA to watch Netflix and game using WireGuard, the problem with this is that I live in Argentina and to get the closest distance I choose to host it in Florida. My question here is if its going to be possible to game with good speeds?

[thick minnow]

Do i need to have DNS records set up on cloudflare if i want only one single page redirect to work?

[unborn sluice]

Probably better to do it in the webserver not dns level

Since you said it was a page.
Out of scooe for a dns

[thick minnow]

Yeah i was going to do that eventually but i don’t have a web server atm, wanted to have a simple /discord redirect on cf but it doesn’t seem to be working

[unborn sluice]

So you own a domain and you want to redirect a host like say
discord.example.com to something?

Or a page like
example.com/discord

[thick minnow]

I own a domain and want to set up a page rule with cf so domain.com/discord redirects them to an invite for my discord server but it doesn’t work

[unborn sluice]

What server runs on domain.com

[thick minnow]

Don’t have an actual web server set up right now, only using the domain to have lavalink linked to a sub domain and port so i don’t have e to use the IP every single time

That’s the only dns record i have ^

[unborn sluice]

Ok. Cloudflare can handle that

[thick minnow]

This is how i had set up the redirect but it isn’t working for me atm

Looked up the link matching stuff with asterisk and read that having * before the domain would match several types of the url so i put it there

[unborn sluice]

Read that again

I think simply the traffic doesn't go through CF

[thick minnow]

Traffic must pass through Cloudflare for Page Rules to work. If you only use Cloudflare for DNS, Page Rules are not active. think ur right

Don’t know what to do about it tho

[unborn sluice]

Show your dns record

[thick minnow]

i set up the default apache2 server on my linux machine and added both cname and A records to cloudflare but now its saying that the web server is down

the lavalink and src records are not being proxied through cf since they dont need to be, its the first A record and CNAME i need looking over

[low pond]

BTW blurring that wouldn't help, we can do a DNS lookup and get the IP anyways. just sayin

[thick minnow]

good to know

[unborn sluice]

and besides, it's not his IP. it's cloudflare's

[low pond]

No? He is using an VPS from an provider

[unborn sluice]

so what happens now

[thick minnow]

anyone know how to fix this? im trying to set up an apache2 web server and im encountering so many issues

i follow digital ocean's guide, domain.com wont resolve

[unborn sluice]

it would actually help if you show us your config

[spark lynx]

my headless ubuntu machine has all of its port closed after reboot. Help needed. 😫

[unborn sluice]

What dkes that mean

And it sucks that networking is slowmode

[spark lynx]

I got ssh server running on that machine and it was working. Then I decided to switch to dhcp instead of static ip today. After changing the setting and reboot, my router can still see it, ping it, but Nmap tells me all ports are closed

I scan from 0 to 6xxxx, which includes all possible ports

[peak cloak]

Your trying with the same IP?

[unborn sluice]

Are you that sshd js working though

[peak cloak]

Need to go to router DHCP leases and see the new IP

[peak cloak]

Oh yeah, did you enable the sshd servicd or just start it

[spark lynx]

Yes, I can ping it. So confused right now. How the hell does the machine end up in such implausible state? The bad thing is that it is under a heavy cover so no kvm for me

[peak cloak]

Well it doesn't happen randomly

[unborn sluice]

User error

[spark lynx]

The sshd was working for a long time and I only updated the /etc/networks today

The sshd was there running perfectly for every reboot before today

and it is daily reboot

I tried plugging in USB ethernet adapter, then attempted both ”me as dhcp server” and ”me waiting for dhcp lease” and ”me brute force a static ip for myself”, then Nmap scan the network and cannot see the node

If it is an extra ethernet adapter, then currently broken network configuration should not cause it to fail as well, right?

[unborn sluice]

Me as dhcp server.... Why

[spark lynx]

The me is my laptop, used for debugging the node

Just so out of idea to fix the node that I start brute forcing all possibilities

The three attempted directions should cover the cases where the node

1. waits for dhcp lease from new network interface
2. tries to give out dhcp lease to the new interface
3. expect the other side to have an ip despite not accepting dhcp lease nor giving out any lease

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo Apparently IT upgraded APs at all of the schools. And nobody has Internet access since their devices won't connect to the new APs.

[low pond]

That sounds like a upgrade to me

[clear igloo]

lol, 10/10 upgrade

[unborn sluice]

Local man reduced bandwidth consumption with this simple trick.
network engineers hate him

[low pond]

[clear igloo]

Most secure network is one with all ports shutdown!

Local man protects network with this one simple trick
Hackers HATE him!

[low pond]

How to avoid hackers from your servers (for ever!, every single service)
drop 0.0.0.0/0
drop ::/0

[sweet pawn]

Hey

I Wana host a sftp server online, so I can connect to it remotely, from someone else's internet

Do I need to add my internal IP for port forwarding or my external ip

If anyone knows anything just @ me

[low pond]

Yea you need to put your local IP of your machine in the router and forward TCP 22

Show a screenshot if still confused

@sweet pawn

[sweet pawn]

Not on my PC right now, but I did that, I still wasn't able to connect to it externally

[low pond]

Hm, are you sure it is open locally? (you could use a another device, put the local IP of your system and try to SFTP/SSH to it to see if it'd respond)

[sweet pawn]

I also setup IP reservation so IP on my PC will not change

[sweet pawn]

Yup, worked locally

[low pond]

While you are inside your network, try your public IP and the same settings to see if it'd work

[sweet pawn]

Do I need to add my external ip in sftp client to connect after all that,m

[low pond]

Wait, you do, if your on a different network you should put your public IP and port 22

[sweet pawn]

Don't remember if I tried that, I'II try it when iam back on the pc

[sweet pawn]

https://imgur.com/aQo5BME

this is ok right

[low pond]

seems ok, if the PC/system is on .101 then yea

[sweet pawn]

hmmm, doesnt seem to be working, is there anything else i need to do, the .101 is working when i try it in the sftp client

[low pond]

Are you sure port forwarding is even allowed by your ISP? that;s the only other thing I can think of

or wait for someone else to help; I'm dumb at this stuff xD

[sweet pawn]

do they need to allow you? the router does seem to have that option

[clear igloo]

Are you behind CGNAT?

[sweet pawn]

not sure

[clear igloo]

Does the WAN IP on your router fall within the range of 100.64.x.x to 100.127.x.x
Or 10.x.x.x

[sweet pawn]

it does, its 100.96.xxx.xxx

[clear igloo]

That's CG-NAT so you won't be able to access it from the public IP that shows up on like "what is my ip" sites

[sweet pawn]

ah

but its still possible?

[clear igloo]

Nope

Not unless you can convince your ISP to port forward that port to you from their side

or if they'll sell you a static public IP

[sweet pawn]

gotcha, aight thanks alot for the help

[peak cloak]

Well you can rely on services to basically create a tunnel to them. And then you will be to access it publicy, like ngrok. You can also use something like zerotier, which allows you to create a virtual network. So if 2 computers on the same virtual network, and have internet access, they will be able to communicate. Downside is that the client and server need to have the zerotier client installed.

[clear igloo]

Yah, setup a tunnel between you and a service/VM with a public IP is an option or using zerotier or similar

[sweet pawn]

hmmm is there some alternative to sftp for file sharing outside of your network

[peak cloak]

Cloud services?

[sweet pawn]

i could use onedrive or something for that, but hosting own server would be cool if not then i might just use cloud service

[dry bronze]

Could do something like owncloud

[naive flower]

Anyone have any decent affordable wifi router suggestions

[naive flower]

And also if you got like an amplifi mesh point is it possible to use it with another router or does it need to be an amplifi

[pulsar thorn]

owncloud and Nextcloud are great

[cinder canopy]

Is it normal for an ISP to run the coaxial cable on the pole directly into your house?

Evidently since we're having speed issues they're going to just bypass the electronic tap

[waxen scroll]

no

normally theres a small coupler outside before the house

[unborn sluice]

so they pretty much said fuck it, then connected it directly

[cinder canopy]

I think so

they said that they were taking out the digital management controller tomorow when they could get a pole truck out

I guess they're willing to do that since I'm at the end of the line

[low marsh]

Hi there, my mother is looking for a simple signal extender/repeater. For very basic residential use case, just allowing her to get a signal from the lounge room.
Any recommendations?

[wheat flicker]

Can power outage damage router

[unborn sluice]

does the power outage have a knife

[limpid lion]

Can someone explain to me the different situations in which you would want to get an AP vs getting a wifi antenna (example Ubiquiti Uma-D Dual-Band Directional Mesh Antenna)?

[unborn sluice]

2 different things

[cinder canopy]

will it help with speeds?

[pulsar thorn]

It possibly could

[nimble adder]

I have a problem I was helping people might be able to help with it’s my WIFI and Ethernet from my isp I am supposed to be getting 650mb download and 40 up but in both etherbet and Wi-Fi have get around 100 I have reset it and contacted support and they just make me do a speed test right after a reset and the it breaks like ten mins later I am with virgin media and can leave y til august I can spend lots of money but I did run abo it 4 eathernet cable and that doesn’t help either I only have about 10-15 devices both Ethernet and Wi-Fi at once

[peak cloak]

If it's capping at exactly 100 I suspect it's the ethernet cable

[nimble adder]

It’s not exactly 100 but not much more than 150 but the same in Wi-Fi too with the same cable I have got 1gb at work

Just to check cat6A can do 1000 mbps

[peak cloak]

Ah ok, but there's no cable from modem to router?

Or is it an all in one

[nimble adder]

All in one it is a coaxial cable to the all in one router thingy I can send a photo if you need

[minor girder]

I need help with networking

Can someone come in a vc and help with ip and subnet and dns

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo my project has a distance issue with MM

just barely too

so now what? 100G SM? thats significant

doing 50/50 taps ontop lol

[clear igloo]

single mode all the stuff!

[waxen scroll]

bro

then discount my optics

dont make me buy 80/20 taps instead

[clear igloo]

2km sm optics (short reach single mode) are same price as mm 100g optics last I checked

[waxen scroll]

lmao no way, go check. pretty sure its not

100G SM cost like a car at MSRP

are you serious?! I cant access the quote tool as a non-partner until I take a training?

[clear igloo]

lol

Eh, price is a little different, 2500 vs 5000 MSRP but still not near as bad as the LR optics which are MSRP 35k. Maybe it was the 40/100 bidi and 100g mpo optics I was thinking of which are the same price.

[dusky flame]

if I have 4 interface port on a router/firewall and I want to use port1 and port2.
i have 5 subnets for the vlans
10.0.0.0/24 - 10.0.5.0/24

what should the actual physical interface IP be? and the subinterface IP?

should all the vlans be subinterface and the physical interface be something different?

[peak cloak]

there would be no physical interface IP

so each vif would be the vlan

and the IP of the router on that vlan

[dusky flame]

so basically 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 and all the configuration are just done for the subinterface?

[peak cloak]

huh?

is there not an option to not have an address

[dusky flame]

there is. i think it's unconfigured which shows up empty (or 0.0.0.0 if you manually it)

[peak cloak]

technically the physical interface is vlan 1 btw iirc

[dusky flame]

ok. so what you're saying is leave physical port1 and port2 unconfigured and just configured the virtual interfaces

and they should be able to communicate regardless

[peak cloak]

what? If you are using vlans, you only need to use one port

[dusky flame]

let me build it out so i can better explain it

[waxen scroll]

@plain siren juniper would never make a corporate customer take an ethics training before accessing the pricing tool

[dusky flame]

port2 comes from a central switch that has all the vlans trunked

so my question was, what do I do with the physical interface setup

from a network management perspective, what's the right thing to do

[waxen scroll]

have a true out of band network with a firewall infront of it

[dusky flame]

this is the firewall

internet and vlan routing will be done on it

[peak cloak]

that's some weird UI

[waxen scroll]

looks like fortinet

[dusky flame]

yeah, it is

[peak cloak]

ah, never used them

[dusky flame]

i spun one up in a vm

[waxen scroll]

you're not gonna have a physical interface IP to answer your question

just subs

[peak cloak]

yeah, I have all vlans on eth4 on my router and it shows up as this eth4 - u/u Local

weird how it makes it 0.0.0.0 imo

[dusky flame]

ah, so if i don't have a direct need for it, it can be left blank

[waxen scroll]

yeah, im not even sure it will let you put an IP on it anyway

[dusky flame]

it did. i think i put a vlan on it

it created some weird results

[peak cloak]

what?

[waxen scroll]

forti is what you use when you want power for cheap. it seems to be decent. I worked around them but not really on them. Cant afford Palo? Forti. Cisco is not even an option.

ASAs should not exist

[dusky flame]

we use sonicwall, something even worse than fortigate

[clear igloo]

I'm sorry for your pain 😦

https://www.androidpolice.com/wi-fi-6-release-2-announced-to-further-confuse-you-about-wi-fi-standards/
Who's ready for features becoming new releases of WiFi now 😄

[peak cloak]

becoming USB lol

[clear igloo]

WiFi 6 already has or was supposed to have low energy features and target wake times built in so why they have to call it Release 2 is perplexing to say the least

[waxen scroll]

There is HDMI mess - USB mess and now WiFi

[clear igloo]

Should follow HDMI and make WiFi 6 Release 2 called WiFi 7.1 gen 1x1 rev A

[dusky flame]

isn't wifi6 range limited

[clear igloo]

6E is range limited on the 6GHz band

[dusky flame]

those AP have to switch to different band when a device go out of range

[clear igloo]

but 6 uses 2.4 and 5GHz normally, 6E adds 6GHz to the mix

[low pond]

Does 802.11ax spec include both 6 and 6E

[pine carbon]

I have a question

[bold rock]

can you plug a modem into a switch and then from the switch go to the router

[pine carbon]

I have been planning on hosting my own VPN

so I met a guy that is willing to host it for me

[clear igloo]

I don't believe so, 6E was an addition late to the party

[pine carbon]

But I am a bit scared because at the end of the day all the information goes through is server

and I don't want some random person seeing my internet activity

[primal ice]

if its a managed switch that you can set routing on you can. BUT otherwise no, every port of the switch would be trying to pass out your Private IP address to what ever devices were connected. you might get lucky and the router would be the first thing to grab the lease but that would be a random thing.

[rocky badge]

That's what I do.

[pine carbon]

with he be able to see all my internet trafic?

[peak cloak]

uhh yes and no

[peak cloak]

yes

[pine carbon]

he will be able to see it but won't it be encrypted?

[rocky badge]

Depends on what your traffic is.

[pine carbon]

how?

[bold rock]

yeah thats what i thought its unmanaged

[rocky badge]

http and other similar unencrypted traffic they can see 100% of it

https and other similar encrypted traffic they cannot see it without breaking the security

[peak cloak]

if they are hosting the VPN, the encrypted connection will be between you and them, from there they are the gateway and can see everything your ISP would be able to see anyway. Any traffic that is already encrypted they can't see, but anything uncrypted they can

anything your ISP normally sees, they will see

[peak cloak]

as long as it's only the one router it would work

unless your ISP is stupid and lets you have multiple IPs

[rocky badge]

imagine your ISP only handing out one IP /s

[pine carbon]

is there a solution to this?

[peak cloak]

what's your goal

[pine carbon]

to have a VPN in the usa so I can watch Netflix and stuff

and I want to host it my self for fun

[peak cloak]

so that's like encrypted anyway pretty sure

[pine carbon]

yes

[peak cloak]

soo what's the concern?

[pine carbon]

I don't want the person who is hosting it for me

can see what I do

[peak cloak]

lol, they are hosting it, ofc they can see your traffic

the solution would be a VPN

[pine carbon]

I'm hosting a vpn in that server

[peak cloak]

exactly

[pine carbon]

soo will they be able to see it?

[peak cloak]

ofc

[pine carbon]

see it yes but encrypted?

[peak cloak]

let me make a diagram

[pine carbon]

ok

[peak cloak]

@pine carbon

connection A is fully encrypted

connection B is not

[pine carbon]

yes

so the vpn server will be able to see everything right?

is there a solution for this?

[peak cloak]

No

The vpn server is the endpoint ofc they can see everything coming out

You would need another vpn

[pine carbon]

ok

[peak cloak]

Netflix is encrypted anyway

However I think Netflix blocks traffic from vps providers

Not sure

[pine carbon]

yes some

but that is why this person offered me to host it for me in the usa

and at the end of the day is just a resident ip

[dusky flame]

how do I make the vlans on S4 communicate with the rest of the network?

can I bridge port1 and port2? or is there no other way beside connecting S4 to S1

[hollow marlin]

Im not familiar with Fortinet but I am sure you can bridge the interfaces

[peak cloak]

if you want it to be like a router pretty sure you need to add routes. If just a switch then yeah just bridge

[analog plover]

Is it possible for an internet connection to lose download speed but keep full speed on the upload because of a signal issue? Wouldn’t a signal issue cause both to be slow? Been trying to get the ISP to come fix my internet since December 17th but they’re giving me the run around. Initially saying it was on there end and signal was fine but now saying it’s a signal issue a technician has to come out to fix.

My download speed is almost non existent. 0.10Mbps. (I pay for 1000mbps) upload is full speed as if there are no issues.

Going to cross post to tech support in case I got the posting wrong.

[plain siren]

Yes. it is possible

[waxen scroll]

no sir. fortinet is layer 3 device

I did BGP with them just fine

[hollow marlin]

I thought even the Fortigates could do basic switching as well?

[waxen scroll]

its a routing question tho

"how do I make the vlans on S4 communicate with the rest of the network?"

homie needs to route

ah I had to zoom in, he duplicated vlans

yeah no, F no. do a trunk switch to switch

[hollow marlin]

Well just with VLAN 70. Thats why I thought he was looking for a L2 option

[waxen scroll]

Bet he'd answer if I drop into his DMs

[iron canopy]

am i able to connect a printer that doesn't have a ethernet port to the usb port to the modem intended for a external hard drive and use the printer over the network

[cinder canopy]

My ISP is saying that my my modem(arris touchstone CM8200a) is having trouble with keeping the right channel

When I reset the modem I get full speeds, but only for around 1-2 minutes

everything except the cable drop(brand new drop) and coaxial cables have been replaced

Any ideas?

My ISP seems to think that it's on my end

I don't think that my router is the issue, but could that be causing the modem to changing modes?

I think the tech said that my modem keeps 2a mode rather than 3d

[iron canopy]

try a reset of the modem

[cinder canopy]

or something similar

When I reset the modem I get full speeds for about 1-2 minutes

Then it goes back to half speed

even with using a paperclip on the back of the modem

After they replaced the tap, my speeds improved, but they still aren't what I'm supposed to be getting on my service

My neighbor is able to get full speeds

from the same tap(gigabit over docsis 3.1)

[iron canopy]

what speed are you paying for and what speed are you getting

[cinder canopy]

I pay for a gig and I'm getting around 500

[iron canopy]

are you using a gigabit cable

[cinder canopy]

I am

I'm using cat6a

What's weird and is causing the techs to be confused is that I can get a gig for around a minute after I reset the modem, but after that I'm only pulling around 500 down

Before they replaced the tap I was getting around 300 consistantly

[iron canopy]

try testing speed on 2 computer at the same time

[peak cloak]

It's probably the modem

[cinder canopy]

They already replaced that

[peak cloak]

Hmm idk much about dociss and coax

Magic to me

[iron canopy]

maybe the modem throttles the connation to 500mbits/s per device

[cinder canopy]

I know it doesn't

[iron canopy]

so you get a max of 500mbit/s total

[cinder canopy]

My neighbor has the exact same model and it's working flawlessly at the same speed

[iron canopy]

maybe go ask them if it worked right away

[cinder canopy]

Here's the compilation of my speedtest results

Everything from 12/4 is on my new service

So when I reset the modem, I get around 900, but after around a minute it goes back to around 500

[iron canopy]

have you checked the settings in the modem

[cinder canopy]

The modems web page won't load

[iron canopy]

open cmd

[cinder canopy]

I can only get to the spectrum analyser

[iron canopy]

type ipconfig

and look for defalt gateway

[cinder canopy]

That's my router

[iron canopy]

maybe the ip is on the back if not try 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1

[cinder canopy]

I know that the modem's IP is 192.168.100.1

[iron canopy]

log into that then

[cinder canopy]

That's just it

it doesn't load

[iron canopy]

try the ip for defat gate way see if that loads

[cinder canopy]

It's not

all that I can access on the modem

[iron canopy]

try to remove the port at the end

try port 80 insted

[cinder canopy]

rebooting modem doesn't help

[iron canopy]

try 192.168.0.1

[cinder canopy]

that's my router

[iron canopy]

try 139.55.176.1

[cinder canopy]

I'm just trying to troubleshoot this since my dad thinks it's my fault since the Windstream tech says it's something on our end until proven otherwise

[iron canopy]

what modem do you have

[cinder canopy]

Arris Touchstone CM8200a

Although monday(my isp will only activate a customers modem by going to the store, you can't call them with the HFC MAC) I can get access to a Netgear Nighthawk CM1200 temporalily

my aunt bought one for use on the same network to avoid the modem rental fee

although the company just waives ours, so my dad won't buy our own modem

We do have our own router because we thought we were going to have to pay the rental fee

I wish that my dad would stop blaming me for this and just let us switch to fiber

[iron canopy]

try plugin in directly to the modem

[cinder canopy]

tried that earlier

[iron canopy]

then try log in

[cinder canopy]

I'll have to try plugging directly into the modem tomorow

[iron canopy]

well $80 get me 50mbit/s

[cinder canopy]

Well if my dad would listen to me $40/month would get us symettrical gigabit fiber

but this is evidently too good of a deal with our first three months free

What's funny is that I have three different ISP's I can get gigabit service from

Windstream/Spectrum/Northstate

[plain siren]

ew modem rental charges

[waxen scroll]

Yeah but $10/m total charges

[sacred ocean]

I'm having a bunch of issues trying to create a datastore on a NVME drive in ESXi 7 on a dell r710. It was working fine in Proxmox, but now throws the error "Error, Timeout" under status in the disks page. When trying to use partedUtil, I just get "Error: Error opening <device_id>: no such device" despite entering it's correct ID. Did the SSD suddenly die or something?

It appears fine in Windows

I also don't have any of my vds from the perc 6/i showing in ESXi, but that's probably because it's not supported in ESXi 7.

Found the issue, looks like the driver doesn't support my drive specifically. Ugh.

[cinder canopy]

They're waiving them

because they promised fiber in the original sales call and they don't charge equipment fees unless you want wifi