networking

[tulip rivet]

And my internet goes out every hour

[peak cloak]

check here, it may be a little outdated, but it gives you are rough idea

[tulip rivet]

Ok

[clear igloo]

ISPs are VERY segmented in the US, the less competition they see the better in their eyes and they'll do anything to make that possible

[frigid pine]

There's a lot of competition in India. Like every block has a small vendor distributing Internet. lol.

[clear igloo]

Yah, you'll see some competition in larger towns/cities but if you're out away from that, good luck

and by some I mean like 1 DSL, 1 cable, and maybe a fiber provider if you're lucky

[frigid pine]

getting high-speed 1:1 broadband is pretty much easy nowadays here. but the problem is nobody can provide the quality.

[peak cloak]

yeah I only have two here, Atlice (Optimum) and Verizon

atlice now is rolling out fiber here, but the big issue is the ONT

it's those ONT all in one, with apparently really bad passthough

[frigid pine]

Having less vendors with good quality slower speed internet is better than having plethora of them giving shitty internet.

what brand ONT are they using

[peak cloak]

idk

atlice one box

[frigid pine]

we import from Chinese manufacturer called V-Sol. The ONU is pretty decent but when it comes to the WiFi, it sucks.

[clear igloo]

Not exactly, ISPs here (I kid you not) take grants from the government and do nothing in return and the government turns around and says "thank you, would you like more?"

They've funneled hundreds of billions into ISPs to have them roll out upgrades, they've taken the money and squandered it and done nothing to improve their infrastructure like they should have

[peak cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OPTIMUM/comments/k703ni/anyone_with_fiber_experimented_with_a_gpon_ont/

The Altice equipment cannot be bridged/bypassed but you could configure your wireless access points to be just dumb access points instead of a full fledged router+AP system and that would eliminate the double NAT. Not sure what equipment you're using but most of the stuff I've touched has this ability.

stupid

[clear igloo]

Oooof, that is stupid

[frigid pine]

IDK about that. I was in UAE for 2 years and they have asically just two ISPs there and the quality of service and internet is just top notch.

[low pond]

"and the internet is just top notch", me having native issues with Discord and have to use a WG VPN to Germany for discord to even work

[frigid pine]

Blocking doesn't mean the quality is bad. It's just their policy.

[clear igloo]

The only thing top notch here for most ISPs is their profit margins

[frigid pine]

True dat!

[low pond]

This isn't blocking, discord doesn't even load, takes 2 miniutes for login page to even load and login, and then opening a server takes more ages. this isn't a problem with my system, some other friend had it too

[plain siren]

Sounds like a Challenge

[peak cloak]

lol, I wish someone would figure it out

for now, sticking with fios

unless optimum does ipv6 first, which I doubt, then we'll see

optimum used to be descent until atlice bought it out

[frigid pine]

No no. It is because of blocking only. You can try reaching their support and they'll tell you it is blocked.

[low pond]

How is it related to blocking, this issue wasn't there 1 month ago

[frigid pine]

btw Etisalat or Du? @low pond

[plain siren]

Grab yer J-Link's n yer Bus Pirates + yer Logic Shrimps,
time to rip the firmware right off the ONU

[low pond]

Eticrap, on the 250mbit plan

[frigid pine]

hmm

[plain siren]

Usually these ONT's n shit are either doing Radius Authentication and/or Serial Number Reporting over SNMP.

[peak cloak]

I've seen lots of optimum vans recently, people moving over with some new gigabit deals or something

Don't have one so idk, one of my friends might, but don't want to mess up his ONT lol

[plain siren]

thats the only thing that keeps me from doing it to everything I can get my hands on... I cant get my hands on it

[peak cloak]

oh

[plain siren]

I ripped apart AT&T's and on the SNMP Metrics, I report back "Yall suck!" on a few of the string metrics.

[peak cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OPTIMUM/comments/nlnqrw/altice_fiber_bridge_mode_is_here/
Apparently bridging wasn't a feature at first

[frigid pine]

Aren't ONT's like this as he described?

[peak cloak]

@plain siren apparently they use this stuff https://www.alticelabs.com/site/gpon-solutions/

[peak cloak]

wdym?

[frigid pine]

but I have never seen an ONT/ONU which needs a external SFP.

[plain siren]

TR-069

Yup SNMP

[peak cloak]

oh no, in the post, they want to use a sfp instead of an ONT

trying to reverse engineer it

[tulip rivet]

Fuck my internet i have right now is the best for my area

[peak cloak]

my fios ONT although it takes a lot of space is pretty easy to use, just plug router into ethernet port, it gets IP via DHCP and you're good

no bs

[plain siren]

A ton of these ONT's are how Downage reports and Speed metrics are handled too

The TR-069/G.988 (SNMP) Command sends a request to do a speed test/report up, they get metrics.

Usually if you can figure out which reported string is their form of "Authentication" or "IP Assignment Binding", you can replicate it and bypass it

Most of the time its the Serial Number

A ton of newer ONT/ONU's are starting to be ARM Based, some are still MIPS

[frigid pine]

Oh. But what would changing SFP do any good?

[peak cloak]

simplicity, fiber goes directly to router

and more control with the vlans and such

[frigid pine]

Some (or most) ONTs are vendor specific in the sense that they enable support teams to access the ONTs directly from the OLT for them to configure it.

[plain siren]

They all do that.

TR-069 and G.988 Configuration Commands

[frigid pine]

Basically the OLT is a switch aggregating the throughput. So I think we can use ONt of any make.

[peak cloak]

?

[frigid pine]

I am talking about GUI access.

[peak cloak]

what gui access, I don't have any

[plain siren]

OMCI > ONU Management and Control Interface

G.988 and TR-069 is the protocols used by the OMCI

https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.988/en

[frigid pine]

wait. let me RDP to my desk.

That's GUI for the OLT showing all the connected ONTs.

If we click 'config' we can access the ONU for configuration stuff.

you don't need to login to the ONT.

But I can do that only if I use a specific ONT make.

[plain siren]

Usually, this Configuration Screen is either non-existent or turned off per Providers settings

instead most of the time these configurations are set through the OMCI

[frigid pine]

hmm, Dunno anything about TR069 so I take your point.

will read about it.

Thanks.

[plain siren]

Its the Provisioning System used by the OLT to push these configurations typically

CPE WAN Management Protocol (CWMP) is what it utilizes

https://cwmp-data-models.broadband-forum.org/tr-181-2-14-1-cwmp-full.xml Here you can find the CWMP Full Data Model

https://cwmp-data-models.broadband-forum.org/cwmp-1-4.xsd Here is the TR-069 RPC Schema File v1.2 (CWMP v1.4)

https://cwmp-data-models.broadband-forum.org/tr-104-2-0-2-cwmp-full.xml Here it is Voice Service Provisioning

[junior valley]

does anyone know if there is a way to auth into ubiquiti wifi network using active directory

[peak cloak]

Enterprise wifi security

It uses a unique key for each person, could prob set it up

[rocky badge]

RADIUS

[ripe coral]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1368687-which-network-is-the-proxy-using/?tab=comments#comment-14957641

if anyone can help me with this

[dusk oasis]

which one can i get?
1st option : TP Link Archer c6 ac1200 v3.2 Gigabit Wi-Fi Router
Specs list : https://www.tp-link.com/in/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-c6/v3.20/#specifications
2nd option : Tenda ac10 ac1200 Gigabit Wi-Fi Router
Specs list : https://www.tendacn.com/en/product/specification/AC10.html

TP Link Archer c6 ac1200 v3.2 Gigabit Wi-Fi Router

Tenda ac10 ac1200 Gigabit Wi-Fi Router

[thick minnow]

@dusk oasis There is no much difference

[dusk oasis]

which one can i get exactly?

and which is better

[thick minnow]

Go for TP link, have long experience with them and never had issue. For Tenda I can't tell because never used it

[frigid pine]

Tenda is also fine.

You need to distinguish mainly which has better wireless chip.

[serene helm]

Hello, Idk if its right channel but how do I check if my router is compromised? I mean if someone else have controll over it? I use Razer Sila (Bought it after BIG discount please dont judge me :P)

[thick minnow]

Huh? Just change admin password, wifi password and disconnect all devices 🤣

[serene helm]

so there is no posibility for some nasty backdoor situation if I dont see alien devices in my router?

[frigid pine]

If someone else has gained access to your router it is a high possibility that you won't be able to login to your router.

[serene helm]

Ah it's all right all the time, but Im weirded out a bit because when I log in to my router the page refresh itself when im typing password and I though some hadkerman did pishing site to steal my password for router xD

or is it just stupid and I'm paranoid xD?

[frigid pine]

is it refreshing everytime you are typing your password?

[serene helm]

Only when I open new tab with it, then I start typing and mid typing it refreshes

Maybe its just shitty razer software... xD

[frigid pine]

do one thing, open any website and just hit the keys of your password and check if that website is refreshing or not.

[serene helm]

Not really

it only happens on this razer site

[frigid pine]

no idea then. But if it would be a phishing website, the url would be different from your original url.

[serene helm]

Oh right

it's not tho, so maybe it's just lazy coding from razer... But just wanted to ask you know to get additional verification from other human 😛

[frigid pine]

Just reconfigure the router and check. Might help.

[serene helm]

Yeah maybe ill check for update for it

Thank you bro 🙂 Have good day

[frigid pine]

np. have a nice day yourself. 🙂

[thick minnow]

yo

if i use roaming profiles, user profiles don't cache on client machines, right?

[rocky badge]

Use folder redirection

[little schooner]

I've had a lot of problems with this

Microsoft never made it so it wouldn't hang the logon process

if the server hosting it was ever down, I had instances where everything would freeze or hang until it timed out

[rocky badge]

Lol

[little schooner]

did you know I never found out what setting controls this timeout?

I wish I did. it's probably an smb related setting

[feral gyro]

I have a TP-Link AD7200 Wireless Wi-Fi Tri-Band Gigabit Router (Talon AD7200), It's 5 years old now and I'm wondering is t time to replace or update. I've been looking around to find out but there's no clear answer on this that I can find at least. Some say yes and buy this router now while other say no but buy this one if you do want a new one anyways. There's no clear reason why given by either so I'm hoping I can find help here. I've noticed I need to reset the router once a month now to fix the WiFi now and again but other then that it works fine. Also no new software or firmware updates since 2017 for this device.

[dark kayak]

I just switched to a UniFi system and I've been really happy with it so far. I also looked at Grandstream products instead.

[waxen scroll]

i just bought my wifi 6 unifi

had no idea it finally came out

[tidal frost]

whats the easiest way to have full home network access away from home? 1 windows machine, 1 ubuntu machine thats behind Mullvad. Im assuming id use some kind of wireguard or rdp on a raspi or something but im unsure of the best way to go about it. Ideally itd be as if im at my home pc to do general management when my wife has issues while im away, along with access to qbittorrent and whatnot.

mullvad allows local network access so unsure if that part was relevant.

[plain siren]

VPN, so Wireguard/OpenVPN/etc

[tidal frost]

how does a diy vpn interact with an actual vpn? can i have mullvad running alongside the diy one since they serve different purposes?

[strong violet]

Anybody know the wan to lan throughput on an Asus RT-AX89X?

[plain siren]

you can run as many as you want side by side

[tidal frost]

okay

thanks

[plain siren]

ofc they need to be exposed to diff ports assuming they end up sharing

[tidal frost]

and all this is happening on the raspi so as long as other machines are allowed to be accessed locally, itll work? that way the only hole i open is the one to the vpn host?

or are there other settings i need on the machines i want to access

seems like pivpn may be my best bet for now untill i learn how it works more and what i need. people seem to advertise it as damn near one click

[cedar igloo]

How does something like PfSense deal with the OpenVPN 2 free users thing? As far as I am aware, PfSense can have many users at once however self hosted OpenVPN can only have 2 for free

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll PAIN

is this patch panel not screwed in

oml is it really not

[waxen scroll]

[low pond]

I'm looking at "eXtreme 6+" instead

[waxen scroll]

and not the extreme switch below it, also not secure?

[low pond]

Pfffft

Who needs them anyway

[rocky badge]

That thing at least has one screw on each side

This patch panel just has ✨none✨

[rocky badge]

Yeah we're a Leviton shop

[waxen scroll]

my job that had 1000s of racks kept a big inventory of every size cable up to 15' and tons of screws. they put the screws in a box near the doors so people who arent staff can just go get them

[rocky badge]

lol

[waxen scroll]

we'd get our hands slapped if racks didnt look perfect

cause no excuse to have excess cable or anything

[full sable]

What’s a good router for a house that is 3 floors?

[peak cloak]

multiple radios

one won't cut it

unless if it's wood, there is a possibility

[waxen scroll]

if its wood, all you need is a decent device on floor 2, near the middle

i had success in two homes that way

[little schooner]

I was fortunate that my dad's house worked like this and it's great coverage with just one. now for my mom's home, there's literally no access in the basement. those thick walls man

[little schooner]

it doesn't need screws since your a Leviton shop. it's Levi-tating in the air

[sudden kayak]

the only thing that is limited to two users is the free trial of the openvpn enterprise version. if you install it normally from the system repos it's the full featured open source version

[rocky badge]

lmao

[thick minnow]

hi guys, I've heard one way of bypassing a CG-NAT is by having a VPS setup where all connections to it are forwarded to your home network, assuming I have found a VPS provider and have setup a linux instance, what would be the best way to then make the magic happen?

[lean pebble]

I think wireguard.
I saw here that alot of them use it, I'm not familiar with it so I can't help much.

[dusk oasis]

ok thanks

[peak cloak]

a wireguard tunnel

[edgy creek]

Hi guys. This is going through a VPN. when i try to connect to my share network folder via ethernet it does not see any of the folders, but when i connect through wifi i can see all my folders. does any one have any clue what might be causing this.

[peak cloak]

well ofc with a vpn you won't see local shares

you're tunneling to a different network

[edgy creek]

i am tunning into my vpn that i setup @peak cloak

[peak cloak]

oh

not same l2 network

probobly

[edgy creek]

i though so as well, but all the settings look rather normal to me

[sand lotus]

@edgy creek Are the shared network folders local or behind the VPN?

[bold karma]

here's the scenario: I have a cisco managed switch from my ISP that handles my static IP pool. I have one assigned to my netgear router for wireless. I have another machine connected to an unmanaged netgear switch which is connected to the cisco router. My ISP recently changed my IP assignment on me. Before they did that I had the second machine able to be reached via public IP assigned to it in the nic properties. Now however, it is not accessible. My router is still accessible, and anything on the Router's network is accessible via the router's ip and port forwarding. My last option is to unplug the power from the switch for a few minutes and plug it back in to see if this resolves the issue. Any thoughts from those of you that deal with this type of stuff on a daily?

[rare snow]

Ok need some help. I have a pihole on vlan 1, need vlan 2 to be able to use that as its primary DNS server

Do not want anything other than DNS traffic to that pihole to traverse from vlan2 to vlan 1

I am using PF sense, and have an allow rule for TCP 53 from vlan 2 to go to the pihole on VLAN 1

that does not seem to be working, and im not sure what im missing

[sudden kayak]

usually DNS defaults to UDP

iirc most implementations will use tcp if they can't connect with udp but it may help to enable udp too

[rare snow]

fixed it

never put the any any any rule in, so traffic was never leaving the subnet

🤦‍♂️

[robust bone]

yo is openvpn good?

[peak cloak]

wireguard is better

[robust bone]

i’m using it rn, it seems ok at the moment

openvpn

[magic rivet]

Hi there. I am using the UDM Pro router and i have 4 different VLANs. I'd like to allow 2 of these VLANs to communicate each other. Lets say A, B, C, and D is my 4 VLANs. I'd like to allow A and B to communicate each other and leave C and D isolated. I tried to set some lan firewall rules but it doesn't seems to work. Anybody know what should i do?

[peak cloak]

firewall

no clue how to use the new unifi GUI, all I know is EdgeOS

[magic rivet]

So this must be a firewall rule. I will play with firewall more and hopefully i can allow the communication. Thank you!

[peak cloak]

*rules, how does the gui look like?

[peak cloak]

hmm

example for some of my rules

this is the key part

this helps explain IN/OUT/LOCAL

[magic rivet]

I am trying similar settings.

[tepid trail]

Wireguard is to be preferred

[thick minnow]

hi guys. trying to transfer files between two PCs. got them connected via ethernet. typed this in explorer, \IP OF OTHER COMPUTER\c$, put in the IP

credentials went in, and then it says "access denied"

it used to say invalid credentials but i fixed them

[desert moth]

can someone recommend me a good wifi extender under 30 bucks?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08DHCC8BN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

is this fine?

[sudden kayak]

wifi extenders in general arent good

in certain situations they can help but the majority of the time they just make your RSSI measurement look better without actually improving speeds

[slate berry]

Is this ($24.99 including next day shipping) a good price for a ethernet network switch? I'm planning to connect most of my devices through ethernet and also wanting to play around with some old laptops to eventually set up some home servers and some other homelab projects, and i figured at this price it seems like a good deal for my needs;
https://www.amazon.ca/D-Link-Unmanaged-Diagnostics-Energy-Efficient-DGS-108GL/dp/B08W3RYNSR

Also my router is 10/100mbs lan connections. should i upgrade to a 1gbs router too so that my home network speed improves? can i connect my devices through my modem which has gigabit lan?;

[small glade]

Network gore

My school has 22+ aps on 2.4ghz

And at least as much on 5ghz what the fuck

Forget about 5g melting your brain this is what will really melt your brain

[sweet pawn]

i can ping an external ip with icmp right?
can i ping a external ip AND a specif private ip/device in that external ip, dont know if i made sense there

[unkempt yoke]

anyone give me ethernet cable pls :)

[low pond]

Nope. that's for the router in the other end to decide, usually in an "normal residental internet" situation connection if you are pinging the public IP you are just pinging the router, you cannot go further than that

[shut elm]

Hello I want to run a vps from my home but I have non routable public IP and no Nat is there something I can do to get a routable public IP even if it involves some 3rd party service

[peak cloak]

Wut

[peak cloak]

Non routable public IP

[shut elm]

yeah its bad

[peak cloak]

That makes no sense

Unless it's just an IP that's been assigned, but with no one advertising it

[clear igloo]

Or they mean a private (RFC1918) address on the WAN?

[shut elm]

yes

basically all isp clients are inside a router

[peak cloak]

?

What's the wan IP on the router start with

100.64.x.x?

[shut elm]

my wan ip is not same as ip i get in myip website

[peak cloak]

So cgnat

So that's not a public ip

[shut elm]

first one is wan address from the router second one is whatismyip

[peak cloak]

Yeah what you could do is get a vps to act as your Public endpoint

There's also services like ngrox but I never used them

[shut elm]

yeah maybe use some cheap vps and code something to do the heavy stuff localy

[peak cloak]

Rn I use a vps just to hide my IP

Esp for game hosting

[shut elm]

im now trying ngrox i see if it works for me

[shut elm]

thanks alot it works fine

[sudden kayak]

yeah it looks like you have CG NAT so you're probably out of luck, just get a cheap VPS

[sudden kayak]

this is a typical price for a cheap unmanaged 8 port gigE switch, i think I've seen them for $20 but that's within margin of error for sales and regular price fluctuations and dlink is a solid brand

[waxen scroll]

I do that all the time

[sudden kayak]

for this, it depends entirely what your ISP is offering you - if your plan offers more than 100mbps then definitely upgrade asap or else you're not getting the speeds you're paying the ISP for. otherwise its not crucial but probably still a good upgrade eventually (if nothing else because ... if your router is old enough to not have gigabit LAN ports it's probably also old enough that you're not getting great wifi speeds)

[small glade]

More networking gore incoming

Cheap cat5

No shielding and the pairs aren't even twisted

Also the conductors are solid not stranded although idk how it should be in real ethernet

[hollow marlin]

Cabling runs: always solid
Patch cables: always stranded
Solid is easier to work with and less issues with termination but brittle when moved a lot so is really made for runs/patch panels. Stranded is more robust to flexing which is why its typically used with patch cables.

[hollow marlin]

@peak cloak Latest v7 update includes native ZeroTier support. Its an odd integration to say the least. https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=178063

[slate berry]

Yeah turns out the shaw modem can connect to the 8 port switch directly, and I have been using 1 of the 1 sockets for my main gaming rig so I get 600mbps, with the other socket being to an old router that I was incorrectly using as a switch. I think you're right though that I should get a new router. My roommate will have to connect via wifi since the router will be in my bedroom, so I'll see if I can split the cost to upgrade and if not they can use the built in wifi from the shaw modem (which luckily is really good on both 2.4ghz and especially 5ghz);

Its the first gen fiber+ modem so not as good as the top of the line one but better than the routers I have atm;

[peak cloak]

So it's a modem/router combo unit

[slate berry]

Yes I had to check with shaw to confirm but luckily I can connect a switch out of it directly and get the speed I paid for through all my devices connected to it. 8 ports will probably be fine and I can always up to 24 ports later if I start going deeper into networking and make a proper rack mounted server to store the old laptops I'm using in;

[waxen scroll]

i thought LTT got rid of our mikrotik shills

[small glade]

This was a patch cable before I cut its ends

[thick minnow]

how does the internet run?

[small glade]

meh at best

and thats on 5ghz

idk how to force my phone to do 2.4ghz only so i can test the 2.4ghz nightmare part of the network (no seperated ssids)

tomorrow imma do an actual speed test

99% of the time i use mobile data because the wifi is not anonymous in the slightest you sign in with your riga centralized school system id

[thick minnow]

Is it passable to connect my linux laptop to the tor network by defult?

I want to be able to pass any packet of any connection to and from the tor network

[quaint hearth]

i live 12 miles away from cabel and its 72k to geht it out to our house does anyone know some good internet options that isnt a phone hotspot (thats what were using now)

[peak cloak]

sat internet?

[quaint hearth]

it sucks

[peak cloak]

there's starlink which is descent

where are you located?

[quaint hearth]

i was think about starkunj but heard its incondsistant and i stream i live in ky

[peak cloak]

well it's in beta

you need to find a clear area too

they are soon launching starlink v2 sats

but the speed is good

[quaint hearth]

ahh

is there a way to guess when it will happen becase i allready payed the 100

[peak cloak]

https://www.starlink.com/

check here

[quaint hearth]

i allready paif

[peak cloak]

contact them then

and idk what the 100 dollars is for?

the dish is 500

[quaint hearth]

it allways sats mid to late 2021 and

the sign up is 100

[peak cloak]

per month

[quaint hearth]

no

[peak cloak]

never knew of any signup fee

[peak cloak]

oh deposit

[quaint hearth]

yah

[peak cloak]

yeah, they will notify you when it's ready to ship

[quaint hearth]

ive contacted them and they read and dont reply

does anyone have a guess

[peak cloak]

well there's no coverage in your area

[quaint hearth]

ik

[peak cloak]

also that price seems pretty high, might as well run fiber

[quaint hearth]

thats what i mean

i cost $73,000

to run it

[peak cloak]

@hollow marlin do you know how fair that price is?

labor I suspect is one of the biggest costs

maybe permits too?

[quaint hearth]

yah

true

should i go buy an ethernet cabe and dig a 1in hole all the way to my house???

lol

[peak cloak]

no lol, ethernet is only 100meters

fiber all the way

[quaint hearth]

true

how much is fiber i might just buy land from all my nebors to run it here

[little schooner]

the land is cheaper than the 72k?

[quaint hearth]

no i buy 1 inch of their land

lol

[peak cloak]

idk how much direct burial would cost

also, you would want a trencher

[quaint hearth]

so i should jsut sick it in the trench

[peak cloak]

https://youtu.be/zP_7ypqxpeo

I would assume

[hollow marlin]

Thats about right. Average cost is about $10k per mile

Almost all of it is labor alone

[peak cloak]

ok so I need some help with routing traffic through a vps I have. So I have a wireguard tunnel setup between it and the router. My router is 10.1.1.1 and the vps 10.1.1.2. I can ping just fine between both networks, including my PC. (I have setup the static routes). Now the problem is forwarding traffic from the vps to the server. So I setup some iptables rules:
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d vps_public_ip --dport 25565 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.10.30.60 10.10.30.60 being the IP of the server, I can ping it just fine from the server. And then I also have a masquarade rule for all packets coming out of the vps to the internet: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE Anything I am missing? Firewall should be fine as I can join from my local network and on the vps I have opened the ports with ufw: ```Status: active

To Action From

---

60861 ALLOW Anywhere
22 ALLOW Anywhere
25565 ALLOW Anywhere
51820 ALLOW Anywhere
60861 (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
22 (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
25565 (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)
51820 (v6) ALLOW Anywhere (v6)

I feel an issue could be that the server doesn't know where to send the packets back and just tries to send them back to default gateway, but shouldn't it just send it back to where they came from? idk

but even then, the router would know where to send packets

[peak cloak]

ok so after a few tcpdumps the traffic does not reach the server at all, so it must be a iptables issue, it does reach the vps though

[thick minnow]

Starlink is worth it, we weee on fixed wireless getting 20 down and 0.8 up, now reaching peaks of 250 down and 48 up

And it consistently sits around 200d 40u, those aren’t like top1% speeds

[tepid trail]

User Crystal no longer available? We were talking MikroTik cant find him anymore. Banned?

I think @hollow marlin was discussing also and @rocky badge

Ah, missbehaved or something? I wanted to talk with him. Maybe can be found on another server. Is there some kind of user and server search function?

[peak cloak]

watch that message get deleted

[peak cloak]

could try adding him as friend Crystal#3166

[tepid trail]

Did not work sadly

[peak cloak]

wdym

you add as friend, then you need to wait for accept in order to dm

[tepid trail]

When i tried there was a popup message saying that it failed

[peak cloak]

huh

weird

[tepid trail]

Friend request failed... blabla.. be sure you spelled correct....

[peak cloak]

hmm, I doubt he deleted his account

[tepid trail]

yeah, i guess so. 🙂 life moves on

[small glade]

What kind of authentication even is this?

[thick minnow]

Hi, is there a simple guide on how to access my phone's files from my computer and viceversa through my network at home? (Windows 10/Android) I did it a few years ago but I forgot exactly how

Hi, is there a simple guide on how to access my phone's files from my computer and viceversa through my network at home? (Windows 10/Android) I did it a few years ago but I forgot exactly how

[frigid pine]

It's EAP.

[rocky badge]

RADIUS/802.1X

using MS Active Directory probably

[cunning lion]

Looks like I have FINALLY found some MOCA 2.5 that is as cheap as Powerline adapters https://www.amazon.com/MoCA-2-5-Gigabit-Ethernet-Ports/dp/B0931V5847

$60-$70 for a set of 2 instead of that price for one a single adapter

meaning a set of 2 is normally $120+ aka double what powerline is going for

Also 0 need for a MOCA FIlter since its a completely different set of wiring that doesn't come in from the road since its a Satilite network and we no longer have Direct TV so I can use that wiring for MOCA since the splitters are already have the right frequences on board

[sudden kayak]

yeah MSCHAP is microsofts weirdo extension to EAP which has a bunch of major cryptography flaws but every Enterprise setup uses it anyway

but yeah it's AD based iirc

[tall pagoda]

Crystals id is 814812041759948831

[cosmic hinge]

Help. Any port forwarding experts out there? looking to set up a modded rust server from a dedicated server but i am having trouble opening the required ports. Thanks in advance

[tacit geode]

What are your thoughts on Powerline Adapters?

[small glade]

Better jump off a cliff

I get like 30 Mbps at best over powerline to my basement but too lazy to run an ethernet cable because barely any use down there

It's a """""""gigabit"""""""

Adapter

Tbh probably in the fine print it says that gigabit means 10/100/1000 ethernet output not powerline link speed or something lmao

[warped storm]

Powerline won't ever give you the full gigabit down there I think

[little schooner]

they are a waste of money for all the problems that plauge the technology

[rigid vault]

it says for ethernet send 2.6mbps but recieved 48mbps what would i have to change
for me if anyone know what i would have to do

[quiet geyser]

I used to have Powerline before i ran Cat6 in my house.
Worked okay as a temp solution, at most i recived 280Mbps down, 170Mbps up with 84ms ping to the ISP. What i had then from ISP was 300/300 Fiber, and via the home router (cable) i had 310Mbps/317Mbps at peak with 0ms ping to the ISP.

The main issue i had with Powerline is the stability of the speed and latency. If you are using a lot of things at the same time like a dryer, washer, stove etc it will impact your speed and latency.

[coarse kraken]

hi can i USE SC connector(blue) with device that has E2000(Green) port in it?

[clear igloo]

With one of these?
https://www.amazon.com/Female-Hybrid-Adapter-Housing-Zirconia/dp/B00FW87FOY

[coarse kraken]

not just plug and hope it works?

my device is https://carrier.huawei.com/en/products/fixed-network/access/cpe/h-series-products/hg8245h

[clear igloo]

They are different angles of light, hence the different colors on the fiber ends

https://www.belden.com/blogs/upc-or-apc
One thing that should be noted is that APC and UPC connectors cannot and should not be mated. Not only does mating cause poor performance because the fiber cores will not touch, but it can also destroy both connectors.

[coarse kraken]

will i get no service or worse service?

[clear igloo]

no service and you'll probably damage something as well

[coarse kraken]

ah

well i needed to get up and running for 3 days and i was in hurry and got blue connector for green device

now ill fix it after 3-4 days when i return back home

[hollow marlin]

This is the biggest problem in the SP space. I ran into a number of times the use of UPC patches in APC ONTs and the fibers being chipped

[clear igloo]

Ah, and I assume converters do work my just angling the light correctly for each direction? or are they basically junk?

[hollow marlin]

By converter, do you mean like a UPC/APC bulk head?

[clear igloo]

yah

Like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Female-Hybrid-Adapter-Housing-Zirconia/dp/B00FW87FOY

[hollow marlin]

Hmmm... To be honest I have never seen them in the wild. My guess is there is a very short fiber inside with the correct polish on each side

I would assume it adds more loss than desired, as does every connector

[clear igloo]

Yah, that makes sense

Not something I've ever delved into but I did see them when I was looking for some APC fiber a while back and happened to remember them but didn't know if they were used or would actually work

[hollow marlin]

Some ONTs like Calix, the connector has spring to it so while its APC, you can plug in UPC and the risk is lower of cracking the tip. Not including the butt load of loss in the process

[coarse kraken]

Hi where can i find Admin login for HG8245H5

https://carrier.huawei.com/en/products/fixed-network/access/cpe/h-series-products/hg8245h

on back of router only User login is given not admin

[regal folio]

Hey guys, have just purchased a basic key for unraid, and am having issues. I try to paste it into the "Key file URL:" but all I get is this: Downloading https://keys/******* ERROR (4). I have tried to fix it with replacing the Basic.key file in the config folder but it has made no difference. On the Tools section under registration it now has "Missing Key File" in red. Please can someone help?

[tepid trail]

Thank you

[tepid trail]

Wrong input type though

[novel silo]

Hey guys I wanted to ask what it would take to set up my own server that I could access from anywhere?

that my class could use to upload their work

[pale ridge]

What is their work?

I feel like a server is not required

Storage

SharePoint > http > ftp

[peak cloak]

I mean still server, just in cloud

If someone wants to self-host, that's valid

[pale ridge]

Server just means you manage it yourself

Like rack it

Pay for that

Pay for transit

[peak cloak]

or just a old box hooked up at home

[pale ridge]

Static ip

Ddns

[peak cloak]

don't need a static

[pale ridge]

Ok I am just going to bow out

This is by far this oddest networking forum I have been in.

[peak cloak]

?

I'm really confused

[peak cloak]

you could use online serveries like google drive, google classroom, but if you really want something selfhosted there are probobly some applications already written, keep in mind if you starting from scratch with no knowledge it probobly won't be easy for you to setup

Like I found this

https://eikek.github.io/sharry/

[rocky badge]

Your school doesn't provide something like this?

[peak cloak]

yeah, google classroom is really commonly used

or moddle, which my college uses

not that I would reccomend it, it kinda sucks

[rocky badge]

SharePoint, Google Drive
Some LMSes Google Classroom, Canvas, D2L, Blackboard integrate with SharePoint, Google Drive or provide their own storage within the service

[peak cloak]

I rmember edmodo too

before google classroom

[pale ridge]

Networking to me is things like. Bgp, mpls, layer2 & 3

[peak cloak]

oh yeah no, I know some of that stuff, most majority of questions here are just, What router is good

learning bgp, haven't touched mpls yet

[rocky badge]

It kinda also doubles as a general IT chat too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pale ridge]

But when you say router is good do you mean like as router which ca. Take a full bgp table or home router?

[peak cloak]

what do you think... this is LTT

[pale ridge]

Point taken

[low pond]

^ KEK

This isn't some super-entreprise datacenter people hanging around here

well there ARE people here, but not all

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll u don't exist

[low pond]

No I didn't mean that at all

[low pond]

mynameisjuan exists too 🤣

I just meant more of the people in LTT, very less know and work with the stuff

[clear igloo]

I don't exists

[low pond]

May I interest you in some cogent transit @pale ridge

[low pond]

XD

[clear igloo]

I was routed to Null0 because I didn't posses the right BGP AS Community 😄

[low pond]

So now you don't exist

[hollow marlin]

RTBH all the traffic

[waxen scroll]

was gonna say... bruh... we got like 3 people here who work on networks for 15,000+ users

[low pond]

i'm sorry 😭 I didnt mean it

[waxen scroll]

I do not use or read the forums tho. Discord exclusive

Cause I love you 😘

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll Ubiquiti failover routers its coming soon ™️

[waxen scroll]

like a product or you put two in?

[rocky badge]

Plug WAN into PDU Pro....then it has two ports on the front to plug into each UDMP....

[low pond]

We at UBiqutti made the best technology, its called Failover routers, we were the number one networking brand who implemnted it

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin im too lazy to water so I bought this device that has a USB wifi to bluetooth dongle that zaps BT to my yard to a valve

[rocky badge]

its a good thing I only deploy UDMPs where failover isn't required

[low pond]

mmmm

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/jQtyS0sGEH.png

[waxen scroll]

i just installed my 6 LR yesterday

[rocky badge]

We only have a spare UAP-AC-LR onsite

[waxen scroll]

I got too excited and wiped the old one before I noted what channels I locked it too

so i have to survey again

[rocky badge]

rip

The UPS says 84 min for everything

But if their power goes out, the fire panel shits itself

[low pond]

blob you like harolds

[pale ridge]

No you may not

[low pond]

:(

what about some HE? Prem T2

[pale ridge]

I am Aussie.

None of those

[low pond]

We have HE at Austriala sir

[pale ridge]

You are correct

But I would but be getting HE

[low pond]

prem6939 bandwidth sir

you can always go with telstra too

[pale ridge]

Have lots of that and tpg

Megaport perring

[low pond]

what about, COS (cogent over starLink(TM) )

[pale ridge]

Peering

No sir

[low pond]

Sir this is cogent, we dont do peering, we look at your pocket, if it has money we are interested

[pale ridge]

Lol

[low pond]

xD

[lime aspen]

Anyone have a good idea for a Dual Port Gigabit card with IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation for use with TrueNAS Build

would the HP NC380T PCI-e Dual Port Multi-function card support IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation

[novel silo]

its a bit of a challenge my teacher set me cos weve tried online services and they havent been amazing

it has a good chance of improving my grade too

I have like 6TB of spare drives and a spare working pc to use

[novel silo]

^

[carmine cliff]

My wifi via ethernet keeps lagging or stuttering everytime i restart my PC, does anyone know what could possibly be causing this?

i have 500mbps download when i disable and enable my ethernet adapter again

[peak cloak]

idk, google classroom is pretty good

but you could try with the thing I posted

[novel silo]

it should be self hoste

hosted*

[carmine cliff]

i have even tried manually setting the IPV4, defaultgateway, dns etc

it did not help at all

[peak cloak]

wouldn't expect them to

prob driver issue

[carmine cliff]

my drivers are up to date

[lime aspen]

Anyone have a good idea for a Dual Port Gigabit card with IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation for use with TrueNAS Build?
would the HP NC380T PCI-e Dual Port Multi-function card support IEEE 802.3ad link aggregation?

[hot hawk]

Whats the max throughput of moca 1.1

Wikipedia says 175 MBit/s

autho the source it sites doesnt actually specify

[peak cloak]

sounds correct

[hot hawk]

wait are Mbit/s the same as Mbp/s

[peak cloak]

Mbit/s is the same as Mbps

[hot hawk]

ah kk

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo old Cisco switch

[clear igloo]

lol, rip

[rocky badge]

It’s fine tbh, it’s gigabit PoE so that’s enough

[clear igloo]

Ah, I thought you were getting rid of it

[rocky badge]

It’s just for lighting (artnet), mixer control, and eventually NDI

[clear igloo]

Ah

[rocky badge]

Program to monitor artnet @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

art monitoring?

[rocky badge]

Artnet is to send DMX over IP

[clear igloo]

Ah!

[rocky badge]

So this program just shows all of the values

[waxen scroll]

i never did timecode

always ran it live, either manually or through steps

manually would be a more basic room with a few zones

[rocky badge]

Ya this isn't timecode

We're not that precise

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo ugh this recruiter will not go away. "Sr Network Operations Engineer " what a downgrade

[clear igloo]

Needs more buzzwords, sounds so boring as is

NetDevops AI Neural Network Implementation Specialist sounds more enticing

[pale latch]

Hi is Domain Privacy from namecheap legit?

[peak cloak]

why wouldn't it be

[pale latch]

idk I'm kinda scared of ever being doxxed so I'm just asking

[peak cloak]

Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2021-03-12T21:18:11Z
Creation Date: 2021-01-11T12:57:46Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-01-11T12:57:46Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date:
Registrar: NameCheap, Inc.
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [e-mail]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: [phone]
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Organization: Privacy service provided by Withheld for Privacy ehf```

the whois for my domain on namecheap

not the full one

[rugged fern]

you can sue if it isn't when u paid for it ... 😄

[pale latch]

Not that easy sueing a US company from europe haha

[rugged fern]

i did it once, but this was a joke, a really bad one, but it was one .

[pale latch]

everything was okay with namecheap but now i feel now like such an idot, i bought a domain and turns out zoho mail doesn't have a way to pay as a personal user

why everything has to be centered on business

[regal folio]

Hey everyone, I am trying to install the Community Apps section on my unraid server, and I keep getting a network failure message, I don't know what to do, please can someone help?

[trim oriole]

wondering if anyone has experience with google dynamic dns

[peak cloak]

use proton mail

it's private, if you pay you get to use your domain

[trim oriole]

the irony is you dont own the domain

its not even registered under your name, so it should not matter that you provide your details - yet because of legacy, somehow it does

im rearlly hoping someone could help me with my google dynamic dns problem. i am trying to use microsoft remote desktop (remotely) but i cant seem to get my laptop to point at my desktop

[peak cloak]

I mean, what is the record saying

it should the ip of what you want to point to

[trim oriole]

yea i got google to point to my ip

i can even ping my ip via the domain

but for the life of me i cant seem to get my desktop to pick up anything

[peak cloak]

so ddns is working

[trim oriole]

yea there must be something wrong with the ports? idk i need help im not well versed in any of this and mostly a hack and slash my way through this many years ago

[peak cloak]

you are trying to use rdp?

over the internet?

[trim oriole]

but since dlinkddns went down, ive been pretty screwed haha

yes

[peak cloak]

1. You do not want to do that
2. you would need to port forward as well and/or open the corresponding ports

do not expose RDP to the internet

please

[little schooner]

use Rd gateway instead with firewalls in and out

[peak cloak]

or some sort of tunnel

[little schooner]

tunnel being the easiest

[regal folio]

Hey everyone, I am trying to install the Community Apps section on my unraid server, and I keep getting a network failure message

[trim oriole]

can you english that for me i dont understand

[peak cloak]

repeating the same thing doesn't help, if no one knows the answer, they won't respond. Most people here don't use unraid and I think it's really bad

[trim oriole]

the port forwarding is done on the router no? i've set that up correctly imo idk

[rocky badge]

I only expose it to my school's public range 🤣

[peak cloak]

yeah, but don't port forward rdp

[trim oriole]

ok so can you guide me through an alternative

would really appreciate any advice here

[peak cloak]

a wireguard tunnel would work. PiVpn is a tool that makes installing wireguard pretty easy. You would basically port forward to the wireguard server and then from anywhere you would connect to the tunnel and then access your home network

[regal folio]

I only repeated because no one was responding and I'm really stuck and no where has an answer. And LTT use unraid a lot on most of there servers and include them in their videos when they do a server video so thought people on here would know

[rocky badge]

The only thing bad about unraid imo is the storage system

[peak cloak]

thing is, most people here that know stuff here actually do not like unraid

[peak cloak]

yeah it's real bad

[rocky badge]

The VMs/container part of it is actually pretty decent

[peak cloak]

isn't it freebsd or no?

[rocky badge]

no

[trim oriole]

erm ok thanks

[rocky badge]

unraid is slackware

[peak cloak]

isn't that worse...?

[rocky badge]

🤣 yes

[peak cloak]

no clue about slackware

[rocky badge]

if I had to custom build a NAS, which I'd rarely do, it would be TrueNAS

[trim oriole]

i dont quite get... what im going to do with this pivpn but i'll come back here if i have questions thanks

[peak cloak]

you just run the installer on a debian based system

[trim oriole]

i guess my problem is my home computer is a windows pc...

[peak cloak]

it guides you through it, at least last time I did it

[trim oriole]

and im quite averse to.... installing another OS

[peak cloak]

oh yeah, not everyone has a server

[trim oriole]

yea for me its rerally just a quick and dirty way to access some files on the go as needed

[peak cloak]

security tho

it's not a problem, until it is

[trim oriole]

yea so.. how do i do it without debian

is that possible at all?

it seems that wireguard has a windows installer?

[peak cloak]

yeah for client tho

pretty sure

actually no

yeah you maybe could do it, but it's windows so prob harder

[trim oriole]

and how would i point to my home pc

probably asking dumb question at this point

[peak cloak]

port forwarding

[urban vault]

im looking for a good new router and modem that supports my full 1.2 gigabit speed, i was wondering what suggestions you guys have, i have like my stock router modem combo from the internet service provider, but im looking to upgrade it, to something nice, most id be willing to put out is like $500-600

[copper rover]

Depends on who your ISP is. Generally they have a list of "supported" modems

[urban vault]

Ah okay and what about like router wise?

[copper rover]

Are you looking to get a modem/router combo (all in one box) or a separate modem and router as stand-alone units?

[urban vault]

Separate

Also my provider is xfinity

[copper rover]

https://www.xfinity.com/support/devices/#unauth

Check to see what supported modems are in your area.

Technically you can use any DOCSIS modem. But you want to purchase one that's on that supported list; because only they (xfinity) can push firmware updates to them for maintenance. Not you or the Modem manufacture

[urban vault]

Ah okay thanks

[copper rover]

Arris is a good brand

I've got an SB8200 myself even though I'm only paying for 100 mb down

Can handle gigabit per port

So if I wanted gigabit, I just have to call xfinity to upgrade my subscription. Within moments the modem becomes provisioned for gigabit speeds

As for a routers, that depends on how easy you want it to be

Netgear is pretty easy. But if you want good performance, you can look into an EdgeRouter

[urban vault]

I would prefer a router than requires minimal setup, and has enough coverage for 1700 sq ft

That*

[copper rover]

WiFi 6?

[urban vault]

Yeah

My moms pc, laptop and most devices in the house support wifi 6

[copper rover]

https://store.amplifi.com/products/amplifi-alien

If you can find it. Seem hard at the moment

[urban vault]

It looks dope asf

[copper rover]

https://amplifi.com/alien

[peak cloak]

Idk seems really pricy

[copper rover]

Looks like it's in their store after all. Used to be on Amazon, guess they only sell direct now

[peak cloak]

Also

You will only get gigabit

[urban vault]

Ik

[peak cloak]

And not gigabit on wifi

[urban vault]

Ik, I use Ethernet rn

[copper rover]

2.2 GHz 64-Bit Quad-Core CPU

That router has some meat on it 🙂

[urban vault]

Better than some chrome books tbh

Is there any routers with like two 2.5G ports

So I’d get the full speed? Or are they really expensive ?

Just curious

[peak cloak]

Alot more expensive

[copper rover]

^

[peak cloak]

Sometimes tbh 10gig can be cheaper than 2.5g

[copper rover]

^

[urban vault]

Damn

[peak cloak]

Sfp+ has been out for a while

[copper rover]

You would be better off with a gigabit router, but then put a 10 gig switch between it and your devices that need 2.5

for LAN

[peak cloak]

That one mikrotik 10g switch is like 130 bucks iirc

Not bad, but then you gotta remember transceiver cost, and also you can't do all copper transceivers on that thing

[urban vault]

I’ll just stick with gigabit, and with gigabit is it 1000mbs or I’ve heard technically speaking it’s only 930mbs

For that Alienware router specifically

Alien*

[copper rover]

When it comes to internet speeds, what matters is latency. Honestly, higher internet speeds is only good for concurrent streaming in HD or 4K or when you want to download lots of data quickly. But for gaming, latency is about the same with 50mb as it is gigabit

So it really depends on what your goals are

[urban vault]

Yeah, my family just has a lot of devices and family/ friends over a lot so we pay for a gigabit

[copper rover]

Yes, I agree. Gigabit would be the way to go

[urban vault]

Alri thanks

[copper rover]

np

[pale latch]

from what I've seen the plan that has custom domains is relatively expensive

and also they have 2 year billing which is something that I don't think I want

[pale latch]

btw I found out for zoho I don't even have to pay to get myself domain support

[long tulip]

Yeah, but then you won't be able to use any other mail clients, except for zoho webmail and their mobile app

[thorny hill]

I was looking to buy a network switch does anyone have a good recommend for 50~ or less. My throughput is 1000mb up and down. Trying to hook up three PCs. My partner and my PC, My minecraft / plex server.

I was thinking direct ethernet would help ping in game, and get more of the up and down stream switching from wifi

[low pond]

Really less latency probably, less than 1-2ms

(using an switch that is)

[vivid belfry]

Hey guys, is the best way to get a wired mobile hotspot (phone) through a usb c to ethernet adapter with passthrough power and then to a switch?

[ionic dagger]

https://ganer.xyz/s/CDxSsi should i be concerned about this?

https://ganer.xyz/s/Hmzrfx wait im a dumbass this is just chrome and minecraft

at least its using the same port that minecraft uses, 25565

[cosmic meadow]

Good day guys,

I changed my router to the tp-link ax1500

But I couldn’t get WiFi 6 or speed above 200mbps

I’ve tried to change the channels and other options oso

My internet is capable of 500mbps

Can anyone help me out here? Tq🚶🏽

[peak cloak]

No

[lime aspen]

Need help to find a Network card for my trueNAS system I built. Dual Gigabit with Network Aggregation any ideas anyone?

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll So this place is going to run out of ports on their 8 port switch in one area....should I upgrade/replace that switch or get another switch?

Some ports are 100Mbps and just basic control

[waxen scroll]

Upgrade!

[rocky badge]

Because they will probably add 2 cams, an ATEM, and a web pres to the existing switch

But the switch already has an AP, a laptop, a mixer, and the uplink

[vernal granite]

if a pc doesnt have wireless adapter or ethernet cable can ur computer connect to the internet?

sorry if its a dumb question, never had a pc before so idk much, and ping me if someone replies

[thick minnow]

No

It will not

[tired torrent]

I don't know if "connect your mobile phone with USB" count external of those but it's another way to connect to the internet.

[crystal terrace]

Guys I kinda need some help with a router I have

I have a spare router and I wanna use it as a wireless bridge to extend the network of my main router

I don't know a lot bou routers so I'm kinda confused what to do now

[tall pagoda]

Will you transceive or receive WiFi signal?

[crystal terrace]

From my main router??

[tall pagoda]

From your second

[crystal terrace]

It does work like a normal router but I don't receive any signal from any router in the wireless bridge menu

[crystal terrace]

.

[tall pagoda]

Bridge is from WIFI to cable and Access point from cable to WiFi

[crystal terrace]

Oooh

[crystal terrace]

So which one should I use??

[tall pagoda]

It depends

If you want to transmit wireless Internet or receive it

[crystal terrace]

Receive it to the second router and then use it as an extender

[crystal terrace]

If that makes any sense

[tall pagoda]

So you mean it as repeater?

[crystal terrace]

Yeah basically

@tall pagoda

And I apologise for the ping

[unkempt yoke]

network.

[low pond]

Lel.

[nocturne yew]

Hey y'all

I need to get a router

Should I go with this one?

Or

[low pond]

Omg that's cancer

[nocturne yew]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-GT-AC2900-WIRELESS-DUAL-BAND-GIGABIT

[low pond]

Don't fall for "gaming router" marketing

[nocturne yew]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-GT-AC2900-WIRELESS-DUAL-BAND-GIGABIT/dp/B07YRG6ZDD/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=ASUS+ROG+Rapture+GT-AC2900+WiFi+Gaming+Router&qid=1630864856&s=computers&sr=1-14

[nocturne yew]

I need a good router

I don't know what to get

Im gonna get a 1000MBPs internet conection soon

[serene helm]

Hey I'm in same situation, I'm looking for router - fastest wireless speed will be great (For data sharing in same network, and game streaming by moonlight or steam streaming)

[runic citrus]

1000 MBps or 1000 Mbps ?

[unborn trellis]

All you need to make sure is that it hits the speeds you want, or supports the protocol you want

[nocturne yew]

This type

[serene helm]

Guys, but IDK which brand is ok, which will be supported long time or on which I can install custom software etc.
You said that We should never buy "gaming" routers, so which ones would you recommend?

[primal ice]

Routers should route and Access Points handle wifi - consumer (and ISP provided) combination units are generally trash.

[olive halo]

If all your subnet traffic is going out one interface it's not like you need a beefy router function lol

[olive halo]

capital B is usually for bytes and lowercase B is usually for bits

M being the prefix for Mega as in million for bits it would be 1000 million bits per second

in Bytes the M isn't Mega it's Mebi which is 1024 kibibytes

but base-2 counting is annoying so we just say mega for both

network speed is almost always in bits (1s and 0s) per second

[serene helm]

Quick answer for dumb ppl like me - MBps = steam download speed Mbps = speed tests speed

[clear igloo]

MB = storage
Mb = Data transfer
Data is stored in bytes since the smallest unit of data is 1 byte
Data is transferred in bits (1 or 0) since it's on or off.
Steam, browsers, and some other apps default to bytes for some reason and it doesn't help that ISPs like to put everything in caps so it blurs the lines for most people

[frigid pine]

Bit and Byte are just data units like Meter and Kilometer are length units. If you travel 1Km you can say you have travelled 1000 Meters. Similarly, if you transfer 1Byte of data you can say you have transferred 8Bits of data.

So speeds in Mbps or MBps are also similar in that fashion.

[clear igloo]

@rocky badge All the power! I'm curious what the AC setup is like for this house too
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeDataCenter/comments/pira9v/power_for_the_home_dc/

[plain siren]

Take your Mbps data rate, divide by 8, thats how much Megabytes per second it is pulling

[serene helm]

Isnt it kinda false? For example PciE bandwitch is using MB not Mb same for drives GB per sec not Gb

[frigid pine]

PCIE is not using MB, it is just showing MB for user's easiness. In reality all data is transferred in bits.

[serene helm]

Oh yes, I just said it's "used" to compare

ment*

But now I get your point

So anyways 😄 Any good router recommendation? Maybe what company should I pick?

[clear igloo]

What are you looking to achieve? Better wifi? Consistent wired transfers? etc..

Ah, I see now, scrolled up some more

[serene helm]

Ok, so basically I want very good wifi transfers + stability (Cant lay cables - im renting flat) + it would be great to have 10gbit maybe(?) to futureproof it a bit.

And whats important for me - it needs to be kinda safe you know community support and/or frequent updates

[frigid pine]

10Gbps is overkill for a home lol

[clear igloo]

Well you won't get 10gig with wifi today but a UniFi Wifi 6 AP would do nice and then a mikrotik or unifi router or switch

[serene helm]

oh I meant 10gbit ports

sorry my english is kinda bad 😛

[clear igloo]

TP-Link's omada series APs are decent from what I heard

Ah, no worries, I've seen people ask for weird things 😛

[serene helm]

😛 Im sure you do 😄

hmm I heard only good stuff about mikrotik

do you think it will be better to do microtik + unify ap than some tplink?

[clear igloo]

Probably, if you only need 2 or 3 10g ports then this would do nicely and then a 1gig link to the main switch
https://www.servethehome.com/mikrotik-crs305-1g-4sin-review-4-port-must-have-10gbe-switch/

[peak cloak]

omada wifi is pretty good

[clear igloo]

If you need compact I would go with TP-Link for a router/switch/AP combo and then toss in a 10gig switch like the Mikrotik linked above

[peak cloak]

idk about tp-link consumer quality

ik omada switches/routers kinda suck

[clear igloo]

Good to know 🙂

[peak cloak]

just looking on the specs online, they don't look good

[clear igloo]

Yah, I guess I shouldn't have assumed if the APs were good the other stuff would be half decent, lol

Always good to double check that stuff

[peak cloak]

switches may seem okay, but routers def not

although I just checked, and they removed a bunch of routers and there's only 2 new ones

[serene helm]

I might be dumb but whats the difference between router and a switch?

[peak cloak]

routers route, switches switch

let me explain

[serene helm]

😛

[clear igloo]

switches make packets go brrrrrrr within a subnet
routers tell packets where to go between subnets

Obviously the lines blur a bit with more expensive gear but that's the general idea

[peak cloak]

so like you have a subnet like 192.168.1.0/24. A switch basically will switch packets within the same network (Layer 2). Meanwhile a router will route packets between subnets (Layer 3)

so in order to move packets between networks you need a router

[serene helm]

Oh ok, so if I want subnet for my smart devices and guests I can make them separate to my pcs etc.?

[peak cloak]

yeah, you can either just use different ports on the router and make them a different subnet, or utilize vlans

[serene helm]

oh nice

[peak cloak]

also, vlans just "carry" subnets/networks, lots of people confuse that

[serene helm]

i tought vlan = virtual subnet xD

[peak cloak]

kinda, but all it really does it tag the packet with a tag, telling the other network device what vlan it's on

virtual LAN

[plain siren]

Sometimes you can Tag a Switch Port to be on a vLAN Sometimes the Device you can just config it to a vlan, sometimes Both.

[serene helm]

aaa make sense now

[peak cloak]

so like here, it's just 3 LANs, and the switches are tagging the packet from a client, putting it over the trunk, and the other switch untags it

so instead of 3 switchs you can have just one

[plain siren]

And being on diff vlans doesnt necessarily mean isolation for some routers default. Sometimes the routers will by default configure routing between vlans openly sometimes you have to configure the router to allow specific communications between the 2 networks

[peak cloak]

and in that diagram since there is no router, a computer on vlan 10 can't talk to a computer on vlan 20, if those switches are just purely switching

[plain siren]

And this is why L3 Switches have their huge benefits too. With normal L2 Switches, to talk to another device on the same switch, the data has to go all the way back up to the router then back down to the same switch

L3 Switches can do the routing to just route traffic from one port to another without tying up the uplink

A good example of use for this would be: Security Cameras + the NVR.

[serene helm]

I need to process this all, but I think im starting to get it

[plain siren]

Instead of tying up the router for handling recording internally, the L3 Switch can handle that.

or VoIP Phones and/or Intercoms

Also, Servers that talk to each other mainly. You reduce latency and overall strain on the entire LAN by isolating intercommunication on the switch itself instead of having the router handle all the weight

[serene helm]

ah thats cool stuff - I guess its like a rabbit hole xD

[plain siren]

its a huge rabbit hole

[peak cloak]

dynamic routing

[plain siren]

but once you get the fundamentals down, its easy to keep going

[serene helm]

probably 🙂

yeah I mean I never needed to deal with any network stuff tbh so its all very hard to me ;D

[plain siren]

Its worth noting, just recently there has been huge developments in "Hybrid Network Appliances" that are Software Defined.
This is basically Switches that can be a Router, a L3 Switch, a Switch, or a Firewall/etc based on how you configure it/which software you load.

[serene helm]

yeah i was thinking about this

[plain siren]

So instead of buying purpose built network gear, you just buy based on performance needs, rack and stack, then configure for use

[serene helm]

why on earth you need all those divices when you could just write the code for that

[peak cloak]

there's also software based routers and firewalls

[peak cloak]

performance, like optimized chips are better than a general cpu

[plain siren]

Well, for one it used to be the hardware was handling some of the logic + the software

[serene helm]

good point

[plain siren]

With FPGAs becoming prevalent, they are being used now to handle networking gear

Which means all the logic is now done on the FPGA and can easily be software defined entirely

[serene helm]

I wonder if programming fpga is hard 😛

[plain siren]

Not really tbh

[serene helm]

btw. need to go on a walk with dogger brb 🙂

[peak cloak]

there's arduino fpgas to get started

[serene helm]

not really compared to lets say java :P?

[plain siren]

Well, there is Java Applet Frameworks just for FPGAs now

[peak cloak]

never used them though

[plain siren]

Xilinx has a library for this, which is the FPGA OEM Intel is using in their Software Defined Network Gear thats leading the market rn

[plain siren]

and these happen to also usually be Xilinx FPGAs too kek

https://www.xilinx.com/products/boards-and-kits/alveo/sn1000.html this guy is the first/newest "SmartNIC" which is 100% Software Defined Hardware Accelerated, FPGA Based Network Card

And boy is it kewl

[plain siren]

This guy is a cool play

[peak cloak]

never done fpga stuff

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0779PC8S4/ This one is wild too

[plain siren]

Really its hard to find a DIY Usecase for something like this, so not surprised.
Its really only handy for Dynamic Hardware Usecases.

They are great for Oscilloscopes, Logic Analyzers, Multimeters, etc

I know quite a few of my tools use FPGAs for that to maintain high sample rates and automatic signal classification, etc

[rocky badge]

oh my god Sponaugle lol

[crisp bay]

hi so I got some VMs on Oracle cloud (for testing) and I'm trying to get ports to work...so you need to to open a port on panel so 0.0.0.0/0 and on the VM sudo firewall-cmd --permanent --zone=public --add-port=80/tcp or similar. That's on their docs and followed, but I don't see it opened nor I can apply for SSL with certbot:

like that's correct what I'm making, speaking of docs breh

[peak cloak]

Don't you need a webserver running

I don't use the http challenge so idk

[autumn bay]

whats a small house solution that i can get wifi all around the house i was thinking 2 WAPs and a switch for my second floor office

[peak cloak]

That works, just run Ethernet to the APs

[autumn bay]

i have a ubuquiti WAP and i want to add another one for the garden

is it worth getting a POE switch

[peak cloak]

I have one, pretty useful

No need for all the injectors

[autumn bay]

Is it worth getting a managed switch for a house ?

[peak cloak]

Do you use vlans, link aggregation

[autumn bay]

not really what could i use it for ?

i know what it is but im not sure if i would have a use case for it

[peak cloak]

Segregation

[autumn bay]

hmmm i dont think so

3 laptops 2 pcs 5 phones and a ps4 will be connected to it plus i want to eventually build a NAS and a pihole with that. Will it come useful then?

[peak cloak]

I mean depends

Do you want to learn more networking or no?

[autumn bay]

i do im studying that right now

[peak cloak]

I have all my network devices on a separate VLAN, and then have another for all my public facing servers, another for my lan, another for guests

[autumn bay]

oh yeah i could probably use a managed one

can i make more than one network out of one WAP /

?

[peak cloak]

Ofc

[crisp bay]

I installed nginx to see if certonly isn't working but it's the same..

[peak cloak]

@autumn bay

[autumn bay]

oh ok i get that

i wanted a ubiquiti build all over my new house but it seems to be very expensive

[crisp bay]

I need https to even add the server to the server manager thing...

[peak cloak]

ubiquiti is overpriced for the most part

mikrotik is pretty good

[autumn bay]

imma check that out

[peak cloak]

the software tho may take a while to learn

but I have this (just need to install it) https://mikrotik.com/product/hex_s

[autumn bay]

is it bad or is it just not begineer friendly

[peak cloak]

rn I have the er-x

[peak cloak]

beginner friendly for the most part

usually you could try the OS at http://demo.mt.lv/ but it doesn't seem to be up rn

[autumn bay]

do i use their switch ?

or will the netgear one do the job ?

and if i run ethernet up to the 2nd floor i will need a switch from the router to a switch and then switch to accessories or am i missing something here ?

[peak cloak]

What you want

[autumn bay]

but what would be better in you opinion

[peak cloak]

Ummm, what?

[peak cloak]

Idk, never used a mtik switch

You can chain switches if you are asking that?

Router, switch, client

[autumn bay]

the router will be downstairs and im planning to run a cable to the 2nd floor so i can get ethernet up there

[peak cloak]

Router has a chip in it anyway

[peak cloak]

Reasonable

[autumn bay]

then i will use a switch to fan that out to accessories

[peak cloak]

Yeah

[autumn bay]

does that make sense ?

[peak cloak]

Yeah , I do something similar

Router goes to main switch

Only one Ethernet cable

Then from main switch it goes to clients, and 2 other switches upstairs

[autumn bay]

oh ok i get that

i think im going to build the design for now on packet tracer

unless there is a better application i can use to draw it out

[peak cloak]

Idk, I just use draw.io

[autumn bay]

oh :)

[autumn bay]

something like this would work ?

its ugly

[peak cloak]

The things with 3 boxes inside are switches right?

[autumn bay]

yeah

[peak cloak]

And what's rou

[autumn bay]

router

[peak cloak]

Oh, I misread wap as wan

Don't see why it wouldn't

You could get rid of the first switch, router has switch in it

[autumn bay]

also with routers should i upgrade from the stock one

[peak cloak]

If you want to mess with networking, yeah

[autumn bay]

i have heard anything else will do

[peak cloak]

Messing with vlans and firewalls

[lime aspen]

Trying to set up a second pool for trueNAS so that it will back up the first pool can anyone help me with this?

[peak cloak]

The HEX is a pretty good router

Bit of a learning curve with routeros though

[autumn bay]

if i dont figure it out i can always ask my godfather he does networking

also the company in the UK BT uses WLAN

[peak cloak]

?

Everyone uses WLAN?

[autumn bay]

nope some of them are stand alone routers that have the modem for fibre built in

[peak cloak]

Oh

[peak cloak]

You mean as in having an all in one

Yeah, Er-X, HEX don't have wifi

My ONT from Verizon is great

[autumn bay]

The UK sucks

[peak cloak]

Just connect Ethernet to my router and get DHCP address

Ez

Unlike the other provider, Optimum which has fiber where the ont is the wifi router

[autumn bay]

oh and not to mention this router has a feature if you unplug it and plug it in within 5 mins the capacitors go pop

[peak cloak]

And that sucks, where you have to do passthrough and like I heard even that doesn't work well

And neither have ipv6

[autumn bay]

oh last question i have is should i get a wifi 6 router for future proofing?

i have a 150 mbps connection now but im going to get a 250 or 300mbps upgrade

[peak cloak]

You mean APs, no need for wifi if you are going to use APs. I mean sure, but if you want to save some money I don't see why. All my devices that actually use alot of bandwidth are on Ethernet and wifi is just for phones and laptops

So like, no need for that insane wifi

[autumn bay]

oh ok thanks for the help it really helped

[autumn bay]

i have ran into a pit of doom

a managed switch costs like 30 more than the standard model

i have a budget of like 120 gbp for 2 switches i was thinking 8 ports but i need PoE ports. Can PoE be turned off on a specific port ?

[peak cloak]

So there's different types of poe. Active and passive

Basically poe switches output active poe

[autumn bay]

i know what you mean

[peak cloak]

So if a device doesn't need poe it won't send power

But on my main switch I can disable poe on a port

[autumn bay]

is there something you can recommenced for that price range ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-Gigabit-Ethernet-Managed-Desktop/dp/B082PCWBH9/ref=sr_1_16?

the MikroTik company is sold out or overpriced

[peak cloak]

I don't know much regarding switch hardware, I have this Netgear which I hate, and this unifi usw flex mini which I also dislike because I need to run unifi controller

The Netgear software is just bad... And it doesn't work with ipv6 apparently

Which ipv6 doesn't care about what it's switched through

So it must be doing something weird

Idk, or maybe I was doing something wrong

[autumn bay]

im going to get a WAP the Ubiquiti UAP-AC-LITE WLAN

i already have one and i am really happy with it

[peak cloak]

Just be advised you need to either use the phone app or setup the controller

Has no webui

[autumn bay]

i have the app already

[peak cloak]

Ah

I hate managing stuff from my phone

[autumn bay]

thats why i wanted something from them but one switch is a lot more than i have

[peak cloak]

But for like seamless roaming you need the controller

I don't like ubiquiti much either

[autumn bay]

no one in my family will be using this stuff

im the only person that knows anything about it

[peak cloak]

Same, no one else except my brother who knows a little

For his mc server

Gave him a proxmox account and a VM to use, and just do it himself

[autumn bay]

my parents just see this as useless stuff but i know that the new house wont have wifi upstairs

[peak cloak]

Although my parents do like having Ethernet

[autumn bay]

do you think i can run a pihole, NAS and a vpn on a pi ?

[peak cloak]

My mom had some wifi issues due to drivers, and I used it as an excuse to run Ethernet

[autumn bay]

looooool