networking

[topaz mirage]

Is there some good software for managing the files?
Best if it had hardlink with few clicks. I'm sick off typing cp -alr [source] [destination].

[low pond]

Not very sure what that'd mean. So, are you looking for a shortcut to the cp and its flags command or..., what does manage the files even mean here

[topaz mirage]

Yes. Easier way to hardlink files and folders

The manage part is that Im fine with 3rd party file manager like Total Commander

[topaz mirage]

Make it as easy as making shortcut or copy/paste in Win10.
Drag and drop or keyboard combo. Like I can TAB my way through the suggestions in PuTTY for the paths...but that takes too much effort.

[dusk saddle]

@plain siren Looking glass is amazing

There's like zero performance loss running this Windows VM even for games

[plain siren]

Ikr

[lean pebble]

My gaming machine is vm 😆

[dusk saddle]

Nice! Mine too lol

I don't have much of a gaming machine though. I don't game much anymore and I only have a laptop with a 1650

[peak cloak]

just curious, wdym by hardlinks?

don't you have a gui on the client

[pallid verge]

I'm losing my mind at Discord & Steam on my computer. I've managed to find out that albeit my internet is okay, Steam and Discord taking unbearably long on my Computer due to them not having gotten of their asses and enabled a 20+ year old protocol, IPv6..

My question: Can I individually disable applications on my computer (using Windows Defender Firewall or another application) from using IPv6?

[tender hazel]

that doesn't make sense at all

you can have IPv6 enabled and not have any issues with speed of applications that do not support it

[topaz mirage]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_link

[topaz mirage]

I want to hardlink this way files on my NAS using some piece of software on my Win10 rig to do so.

[pallid verge]

I am aware as to how dual-stack addresses work on a machine. Though a little more clarification as to what I mean may help, discord seems to be making a lot of DNS requests for an IPv6 address on the desktop app as apposed to a browser instance (discord.com/app), resulting in my 'joining call' times being more times then not up to 40+ seconds on any voice channel. Also to help you rule out the possibility of distance, latency, etc.. I live in Sydney, Australia, which as you are probably aware is where the closest discord servers are in Australia (resulting in my call ping being on average 2-10ms, so what I expect). I also see similar behavior on the steam client upon opening, it fails to load any pages or gather my friends list as it's attempting IPv6 requests. None of these issues occur on a browser for discord or steam, just the client/desktop applications. On Edge/Chromium, Safari & Firefox I have assesed that my call join times are around 1-3 seconds and load times for steam pages as good as it'll get on shitty VDSL2 50/20 speeds.

Just to clarify further, steam sorts itself out after 3 or 4 'retry connection' attempts.

[lean pebble]

same here but I have rtx 2070S
I thought I'll game on it more but I just don't feel like playing and being on my computer anymore 😅

[raw marten]

mood bro

[hardy kestrel]

Do you think a mesh setup (like TP Link Deco) is better than a second access point connected to your main router via an ethernet cable

Because afaik it's not

[low pond]

Mesh systems usually suck

[plain siren]

Sure as hell isnt

[hardy kestrel]

knew it

someone keeps bugging me to go to a Mesh system which I am definitely not doing since my current setup is good enough (one access point upstairs connected to our main router downstairs with an ethernet cable)

[peak cloak]

Ethernet backhaul >>> wireless backhaul

[soft crow]

Ok me and a friend have been going back and forth with our ISP. We can NOT play games together if it's peer2peer. we have a horrible connection to eachother, no matter if I hsot or he hosts. we always need a third buddy to host for us. Anything we can do about this? Hamachi ping test horrible spikes. we both got great internet when it comes to anything else

We both have tried opening ports, turning off windows firewall, even in registry. we both have same ISP, our internet is great when it comes to downloads, uploads, nothing going on, but just bad connection to eachother

[slate berry]

So I'm thinking of using some old laptops together to create a cluster homelab server. Anyone know any good guides on how to connect them up using kubernetes or proxmox or similar? The laptops I'm looking at salvaging have older i7s in them but no ram or storage and for $35 i figure its worth the money even if I had to put in ram for each of them and use my homelab desktop as a master machine to connect with them;

They mostly have no displays either but for my purposes thats a non issue. I considered a rasbery pi cluster but haven't seen anywhere i can buy them for a cheap enough price to beat used laptops even if the power draw will be higher;

[low pond]

Usually if it is the same ISP connectivity is very great

and even more so if you both are in the same area etc

in what way is it "bad connection", like ping or, what other factor do you notice that

[soft crow]

We game alot, we host games for random people and friends all good, if i play with friend C we are both fine, if he plays with friend C they are fine, but if we play together, its a horrible lag fest

pings from 20 to 800+. even on hamachi we ping horrible to eachother, but to friends we dont, if i host for him its terrible, and other way around aswell. but if a third hosts we are fine

[peak cloak]

I mean on hamachi I would expect it to be worse

[soft crow]

Yeah but we are in a server of a bunch of people, if we ask the others to ping me, its 16-20 ms

if they ping him, it's also 16-20
but if we ping eachother it goes to 800+

[low pond]

try to do a tracert instead of a ping, and show it here

the one which spikes over 800

[soft crow]

our routers wont allow pings, so only way we could do that is through hamachi

[peak cloak]

wut

oh yeah on WAN interface most default to block ICMP

[soft crow]

We tried many different games, we always need a third person to host for us, i have no clue how to get this fixed, our isp gave up, and we have no clue

we even gotten new modems to try from our isp

[regal terrace]

You can just install ubuntu server 20.04 and follow a kubernetes install from youtube. Not sure which you want to learn but I would recommend kubernetes as it has more content to learn and is a hugeeee skill for hiring.

[plain siren]

CGNAT

Essentially your public IP is a NAT'd Public IP and the ISP would basically have to Port Forward on their end just as you would on your own router

It's absolutely trash

[plain siren]

K3os with k3s

K3os makes installing k3s easy (a form of kubernetes)

[dusk hazel]

Hello, I have a question about network PCI adapters

I‘ve currently reinstalled windows and it seems like it is missing some network drivers

And can‘t install another one bc it blocks with with the deep sleep error

So yea, would buying a LAN network pci adapter fix that?

I think that with them, they will use their own network drivers

Not sure

[plain siren]

Well usually the Windows Generic Drivers can at least make them work in a basic manner

[plain siren]

No

[dusk hazel]

Ok

Thanks for the response

[plain siren]

Did you fix it?

If not give me the Model of the Network Card/Adapter

[dusk hazel]

I‘m not at home Yet

Uh, idk I use the network adapter that is integrated in the motherboard

The motherboard is a Aorus B450M

[plain siren]

Its a realtek port, and it has the Realtek Deep Sleep problem

Open Device Manager by:
Go to Start
Click Control Panel
Choose System and Security
Click Device Manager (under System)
Open Network Controller properties by:
Double-click Network adapters to expand it
Double-click the Realtek Network Controller
Turn off Deep Sleep mode by:
Choose the Power Management tab
Untick “Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power”

And you can fix it

[dusk hazel]

Ok, I will try

Thank you

But

Well, there is a problem, it has no power tab

And

I currently have no network driver installed bc it doesn‘t let me

[plain siren]

Why wont it? Whats the error

[dusk hazel]

It can‘t installed it bc deep sleep is enabled

Yet I have no driver

[plain siren]

Change your power profile in Control Panel to High Performance as a temp measure

Or you can disable PCIe ASPM / C-States in BIOS temporarily

[dusk hazel]

I‘ll see

Thank you

I‘ll try it later and say if it worked or not

I‘ll probably have to setup windows on a stick again and install it

Bc I bet this one is corrupted asf

*there was more drivers missing than the network one

[plain siren]

Yeah because you got no network

So what wouldve already been auto-downloaded isnt there

[dusk hazel]

I see

[plain siren]

And usually windows is fast enough that after install you wouldnt notice the DL

[plain siren]

Actually I just found out you can also forcefully set the driver from Device Manager > Update Driver > Select a Driver from my Computer to fix your issue too

[dusk hazel]

Yes

[plain siren]

Since the Driver is on your PC installed BUT

[dusk hazel]

I did manually install one driver

[plain siren]

It didnt apply it

[dusk hazel]

But couldn‘t find the driver update for the other one

Yes, they are outdated

[plain siren]

Yeet

[dusk hazel]

I do not have that many manufacters

But I‘ll see

That‘s def bc the realtek driver isn‘t installed

[plain siren]

It does have that many by default

[dusk hazel]

Mine doesn‘t

[plain siren]

I got this off a Dell XPS with only Wireless.

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Driver/mb_driver_597_chipset_2.09.28.509.zip < Chipset Drivers for your Mobo

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Driver/mb_driver_542_w10_10.038.1118.2019.zip < Realtek drivers but if you cannot install with the whole "Setup.exe" find the .inf file that defines the driver in the files and right click it > "Install" then do the manual driver update in Dev. Manager

[dusk hazel]

Ok

[plain siren]

Lol all it has is a .exe....
BUT They are using 7z SFX Packager LOL
If you can somehow get 7zip on a flash drive and install it onto your PC (You should be using this anyways so getting it now is not even an issue) you can rename the exe to .7z and itll open up as an archive

[dusk hazel]

Ok

Idk, I‘ll have to try when I get home

[plain siren]

Actually DM me later and ill send you the unpacked files if you end up needing to manual install before it shows up in "Update Drivers"

[dusk hazel]

Alright

I should be home in about 4h

[dusk hazel]

Ok, update on this, it now works but only wireless

It did install it‘s own wireless network driver with this adapter

[willow lion]

Hello,

I have an ASUS RT-AC87U that I want to use as an AP, but I’m having trouble getting it to take the SSID and password and WAN settings from my ISP’s provided modem/router.

Can anyone give me a hand? I’ll let you remote into my computer if you need to.

My main goal is to have them both set the same, since the ISP’s router is also technically an AP, so when I got from my main floor to my basement there’s no drop and it switches automatically since the signal upstairs can’t get through my floors metallic insulation for the in-floor heating.

[willow lion]

If this was a Ubiquit set up I’d be done by now because I do those at work, but I’m making two routers from two companies try and talk and I’m an idiot.

[willow lion]

Nevermind I figured it out

[tender hazel]

@willow lion make sure that your ASUS is connected to the main network via the LAN port and not the WAN port

[thick minnow]

Alright so any advice has to why, everytime I set my ethernet setting to full duplex gigabit or whatever it is called, but ethernet just stops working, until I set it back on auto. It's rather annoying having my link speed at 100Mbps, when I have the capability of using Gigabit. Drivers are up to date, and mobo supports gigabit, as well as we have cat 6 wiring.

Oh forgot to mention only one of the ethernet ports on the back of the router/modem combo we rented works the other ports don't which idk why

[peak cloak]

what cable is it

1000Base-T requires 8 wires

100Base-T just needs 4

and what modem/router is it, does it support gigabit?

[thick minnow]

The cable Im using to connect from the wall port to pc is Cat 5e, and when me and my dad wired it, we used all 8 wires and our house is wired with cat 6 wiring. I mean I would have to check on the type of modem/router name it's downstairs, but I will double check the name of it right quick. We got gigabit service, from Mediacom, as that's the only gigabit options where we are at.

[peak cloak]

do you have a ethernet checker

smells like you have a loose termination or something

[thick minnow]

We should have one, I'd have to ask my dad, btw, what comes with our internet option it includes 2 eero mesh boosters or whatever they are called, basically the one ethernet port that is working on the router/modem right now is connected to one of the meshes which has two ports and I'm using the 2nd port for the wiring of the cable we did. I do have some extra ethernet cable I can use to test if it's the cable I am using for my pc.

I thought it might be because I am not connected directly into the router/modem combo, but I can't test it as once again none of the other ports seem to work on there.

[ornate jungle]

Bypass the wall jack, even if you have to move your PC just temporarily. This will immediately reveal if the wall jacks or ethernet wiring are bad. I have had wall jacks fail to provide a solid connection many times before, usually because they're low quality or damaged, resulting in only 10/100 negotiation.

[thick minnow]

Ok, will do I also have a laptop that I could test it with too, that does have an ethernet port, the electricians didn't do a really good job at wiring so it could be the jack, but I will definitely try that

I will update if something changes

[ornate jungle]

Sounds good. You're on the right track - most of the network troubleshooting I do is literally just removing pieces of the puzzle until I find the variable causing the problem.

[thick minnow]

Yea that's usually the best method too, I determined it wasn't the cable I was using as I tried another one and same thing so now I'm going to try the laptop and see if there is a difference

[idle berry]

Would anybody know how to run an email server on my Ubuntu box so that I could have branded email addresses?

[peak cloak]

you don't want to run a mail server

pay someone else to do it

too much work

setting up a mail server in itself isn't hard, it's everything else. Getting whitelisted, I think you need ip ptr records, and other stuff

if you want to have your own domain, just use a service

I am thinking of paying for protonmail

[idle berry]

it’s not worth paying for for what i’d use it for though. i just need to know if it is possible and how to.

[peak cloak]

is it possible, yes, but not worth it if you all your mail to go to spam

also your ISP may not allow it

many block port 25

https://mailinabox.email/

I heard this is good, never used it

[gritty valley]

This is fine if You want simple, self-hosted mail server. But rather just get a ProtonMail account, pay the 5$ a month for the Plus and attach Your custom domain to it

[peak cloak]

yeah that's what I told them

it's a pita to self-host email

[plain siren]

https://poste.io/ Also good

[lean pebble]

I use iredmail it's nice and easy to use

[small glade]

Can't get my dad's pc to use channel bonding on 5ghz

The adapter should support it and link speeds up to 433mhz

But this only seems to be using a 20mhz wide channel

I did try the obvious like checking if the adapter isn't set to 20 mhz only mode and updating the drivers

Also this wifi adapter supports forcing 802.11a mode so imma do that for fun to see the best case scenario for a 1999 standard

Gets 24/24mbps in 802.11a mode and 4/4mbps in 802.11b mode

Good to know that my wireless network can cater to time traveller's from 2000 lmao

Should I set my router/ap to n and ac only? Aren't these ancient backwards compatibility modes security holes?

[tender hazel]

the older modes aren't security holes

older wireless encryption methods are but I don't think those are related to the standard in any way.. like I suspect you could probably use WPA3 on a wireless 802.11b or g client device if the driver on the client end supported it

[rocky hawk]

I've got a bunch of very old devices on my network and I really appreciate modern network equipment's support for older standards

that being said, if you have something really old better plug it in to the wired network

[waxen scroll]

my only old device is a printer that came out right as G was beginning to be supported

laser printers dont die

[hardy kestrel]

since I have two routers that has antennas (one has 4 and the other one has two)

should I spread the antennas or should I keep them straight up

[plain siren]

Ok so the trick is far left 2 make as horizontal as you can and then far right 2 make them straight up
The one with 2 keep straight up

[small glade]

Apparently Xbox controllers use 5ghz wifi to communicate

Was probing what networks I could receive on 5ghz (mostly because periodically I was somehow getting a stronger signal from the downstairs ap than the upstairs one for some god forsaken reason possibly the transmitter on upstairs one is going iffy or overheating) and saw a hidden ssid network way up on like Channel 161 or so and with a dbm seemingly coming from within my room

Traced it to the Xbox controller reciever dongle thing plugged into my pc

[plain siren]

Yup it uses 802.11a

[little schooner]

I can't disable the spooler because everyone here in the college already complains about printing and printer cards

they did disable it on domain controllers and anything that doesnt need printing. I'm hoping the antimalware programs detect the exploit attempts

[thorny vector]

@little schoonerProbably not, for the time being, since the function being called is functioning as intended

Here, this should help a bit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5y7h36WYAMPzBo.jpg

@plain siren Hand built mine on top of postfix and dovecot. Never again.

[plain siren]

Yeah, literally aint even worth it.

[plain siren]

Its worth noting that only authenticated users can utilize the exploit

Its just a permissions escalation

RPC Calls can be expliticly set to require Admin permissions before the RPC API even lets you use it and that just prevents it from normal users all together.

[thorny vector]

It's usually safe to assume getting a low level user is easy. For this, if a www user gets added to the domain, and is running web services, its an insta-pwn of the network from a usually easy to do web exploit

[little schooner]

oh thx this is useful

[little schooner]

oh okay, yeah not as bad then.

[plain siren]

yeah its very very overblown rn

there is a pretty solid and full scope POC on Github that unless you are on the Domain Controller or Windows Server (Does not apply to client machines with Win 10) as a User logged in or logged in through RPC Interface.... it wont work

[thorny vector]

Yes and no. It’s not the insta pwn that some media centers are saying it is. However… phish an org of thousands, now instead of having to get lucky with a savvy admin user, you can get an idiot user.

And if a basic PoC is on GitHub, easily assume threat groups have something good already rolling out.

[plain siren]

DoD released a Rule Patch they applied to the Unified Threat DB that Defender uses.

Its already deployed.

Win 11 also got a proper code-level patch that we havent seen put into 10 yet

(Same with Win Server 2022, it has it)

[thorny vector]

I’m still regularly seeing win 7 and server 2003 on customer networks. I never assume stuff is patched until proven otherwise.

[plain siren]

its only a matter of literal weekTOdays until its a non issues

[plain siren]

Yeah see, thats the real problem here

Although I immediately move focus to the fact that baseline compliance failure is on the IT/IT Ops/CTO/etc instead of any exploit since that is really a bigger issue than 1 exploit

[thorny vector]

I totally get what you’re saying about the fixes being out. But whenever I see a vuln that hits older versions hard, I cry inside. Because that means I’ll be seeing it for the next 5 years.

[plain siren]

Sometimes I hope there would be a full body slam payload distribution jackpot from someone that would wreck everything that isnt being maintained just to prove a point

Just needs to happen 1 time...

and it gotta hit the entire scope/userbase

[thorny vector]

It’s happened before. See wannacry. It was a huge issue, but then faded into the background.

[plain siren]

Thats why we got Windows 11.

TPM neuters Ransomware with File Attestation of core files and the whole Write Filter feature which does a shadow volume of the root drive to write to first before doing the write to drive

Oh wait... that was in FUCKING 10
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/oem-highly-secure
But... no one was RTFMing and setting it up properly

So Microsoft had to literally provide a TEMPLATE to make it pre-deployable

[tender hazel]

I ordered a TPM just recently for my motherboard

but they are all on backorder now

[plain siren]

I got a software TPM that works lol

IBM had made one.

[tender hazel]

yeah I do too, but I figured having a module is better

[plain siren]

(Not Firmware TPM Btw)

[tender hazel]

so that I can upgrade CPU's without running into issues there

ahh ok.. yeah sorry I meant firmware TPM

[plain siren]

http://ibmswtpm.sourceforge.net/

[tender hazel]

I have a Ryzen 3900X

[plain siren]

Yeah, and windows does something cool, itll backup your dTPM keys to fTPM

[tender hazel]

oh cool

but not the other way around?

[plain siren]

dTPM is prioritized since its proper implementation

You can use a dTPM to do a TON of stuff

It works as a Smart Card (For auth), FIDO Authenticator, Hardware Modification Provention, Anti-Cheat, DRM Attestation...

2FA Device too. You can literally use it to get the "Yes" "No" Login in Windows Hello for Remote Logins

[thorny vector]

Malware authors will continue to innovate to match any of these security measures. Especially since they either A - live off the land, or B, write their own cryptor, as well as dealing with shadow volumes. That stuff is already in the wild.

[plain siren]

Yet they are never able to break the Attestation of Androids using TPM for Login/FRP Full Spec Implementation (only the Gen 1 have they done so)

And... they use the same Infenion platform.. kinda makes you wonder

[thorny vector]

The money isn’t there for it. The money is all on windows machines.

[plain siren]

OEM HIGHLY SECURE has been around since 2016, and still never had a CVE for its authentication and VSS/Hardware Health Att/Remote Att/etc implementation where done...
Its also the DoD Spec too. The only time we ever see problems is when the OEMs were not listening to MS' demand from July 2016 to enforce OEM_HIGHLY_SECURE Baseline or when someone reinstalls OS but never reconfigured it to be proper.

The TPM and Enclave systems provide a unique feature of acting like an external device looking in

Process A says "I am process A"
TPM says "Yeah hes process A"

Process B says "I am process A"
TPM says "HES A LIAR"

And last but not least.... main accounts being admin accounts.

[thorny vector]

Until process A gets injected, or a DLL is hijacked.

[plain siren]

Then attestation is broken.

And uh

which is always fucking off for some reason

[thorny vector]

Do you have links to documents for this? I’m still not wholly convinced it’s the panacea you’re saying it is, but I do want to read more.

[plain siren]

Actully yeah

Hold on

[thorny vector]

Yes. Yes it is. Which is why I have job security.

[plain siren]

This is the real core crux issue.

Its not that current implementations are not iron gate solid... its the humans that implement them

This is a big one too

[thorny vector]

That, and I have seen some SCISHTY malware in my time.

[plain siren]

https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/DICE-Attestation-Architecture-r23-final.pdf

Its the DICE Attestation Arch. Achieving this to its full extent on Windows Infra is a damn good months of work

https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TCG-PC-Client-FIM_v1p0_r0p43_pub.pdf This is more to do with Preboot

[thorny vector]

I appreciate it. Going to have to implement this. Been getting more malware samples recently, and while I have a separate dirty network, I’m always paranoid about leakage.

[plain siren]

https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/DICE-Layering-Architecture-r19_pub.pdf DICE Layering

https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TSS_ESAPI_v1p0_r08_pub.pdf And this is what happens you pair something like a TPM + Fingerprint or Yubikey

https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TCG_ServerManagDomainFWProfile_r1p00 (THIS TURNS INTO the P WORD FOR SHIT AND BOT BLOCKS REMOVE ME) _pub.pdf

And thats the real last big one but these are all just specs.... what about using them on windows?
right

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/secure-the-windows-10-boot-process

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/kernel-dma-protection-for-thunderbolt (Thanks intel, you are the whole reason we need this)

[thorny vector]

I’m still upset with intel about keeping thunderbolt so close to the chest.

[plain siren]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/encrypted-hard-drive This is TCG OPAL Self Encrypting Drives (Bitlocker will use this instead of its own Crypto with TPM and can even require something like Yubikey or Network unlock)

[plain siren]

USB 4.0 is TB3.

And its already out. Its fully TB3 Native.

I have a USB 4.0 Laptop (Dell XPS 9560) and a USB 4.0 NVME Enclosure

And yeah its full speed off that NVMe

My TB3 dock works too

Although the dell XPS is also TB4 which is lol... "Backwards compat with USB 4"

[thorny vector]

Ugh. I’m so out of the loop. Can you tell I’ve just been getting sandbagged the past year from all the bored hackers at home during COVID?

[plain siren]

Oh man you should see Type-C right now... its beautiful

The newest USB PD Revision (Which is charging shit over USB Type-C Ports) is specced for 240W @ 50V.

So you can now deliver 40 Gbps of Data + Video + 240W of power over 1 single cable.

My SOLDERING IRON it type-C lol

[thorny vector]

One cable to rule them all and in the standard bind them.

[plain siren]

So is ... MY POWER WASHER

Im not joking

https://www.amazon.com/Baseus-Pressure-Portable-Cordless-Cleaning/dp/B08RD1BRST

https://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-TS80P-Soldering-Adjustable-Temperature/dp/B089ZSG7XG/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NVWKCDT/

All of this... charging off 1 cable 1 charger.

Car jump starter too...

Heres an electric screwdriver..

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092ZF365Y/

Lovely for taking apart a laptop and shit

[small glade]

Ethernet switches "reboost" signal right? Like the limit for how long a cable can be is reset?

[thorny vector]

@small glade Yes

[small glade]

ethernet switches deserve more credit like the one thrown in the corner of my room has been running practically non stop since 2016 and not had a single issue

[fallen crypt]

is there anyway to bypass voip restrictions that my isp (etisalat) has put in place?

[frigid pine]

VPN!

[fallen crypt]

other than that

i use discord's voice call a lot while playing online games with my friends

i cant play multiplayer with a vpn

[frigid pine]

You can use a browser based VPN. I think they only affect the browser traffic (not sure) and not other traffic. So you can use Discord on browser.

[fallen crypt]

I have a linux server in germany if that helps

[fallen crypt]

the reason i'm looking for ways to bypass voip restrictions is to use the discord app

discord voice calls work fine on the browser

but i dont want to use the browser

[frigid pine]

Then I don't think there is another option.

[small glade]

what in the fuck

getting 200mbps over cat5 ethernet

not cat5e

cat5

sorcery

mislabeled cat5e?

or should i call an exorcist

[fallen crypt]

I have a linux server, is it possible to make discord send all its traffic to my linux server?

only discord, not all my apps

[hollow marlin]

@small glade you can get gig speeds on shorter runs of cat5. Same as you can get 10g on cat5e up to around 30m

[small glade]

hmmm cool

i assumed there was an electrical difference liek extra wires or a different arrangement to signal the ethernet type

[peak cloak]

Well there is

Like cat 4 can't

[peak cloak]

Hmm, only discord would be hard but not impossible

[fallen crypt]

yeah, just want to divert an applications traffic to my linux erver

how would I go about doing that?

[cunning bolt]

How do i ping my router?

[small glade]

ping the default gateway ip address

[peak cloak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684507953021452432/866674166928637992/MicrosoftTeams-image_3.png

The security on smart devices...

[hollow marlin]

Not far from the truth. Most "security engineers" I worked with barely understand FWs and how connected to the internet =/= unsecure

[clear igloo]

Internet Connected Toaster!!!

[undone basin]

Big brain

[frigid pine]

OoOOooOo!

[low pond]

God can people stop reffering to it as "Internet" speed

Its just a multimode backbone thingy, they managed to squeez 319Tbit over 4 strands of fiber.

[rocky badge]

"multimode"

undersea fiber tends to use DWDM and Digital QAM

MAERA owned by Microsoft, Facebook, and Telxius carries ~200Tbit/s over 8 pairs

Original spec was 8 fiber pairs * 25 DWDM channels * 400 Gbit/s per single carrier (16-QAM modulation) = 160 Tbit/s

but they were able to get up to 26.2Tbit/s per pair

[waxen scroll]

yep. they dont get layer 3 outside of an ACL

[clear igloo]

Yah, it was just a bunch of DWDM and additional bands for single-mode light for faster speeds (to put it simply)

[low pond]

Wonder what'd be the theoretical limit per "strand" 😛

[clear igloo]

100Tb/s with C and L bands or 200-300Tbit with additional bands

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo Getting 9 APs shipped to my house

[clear igloo]

Just 9?

[rocky badge]

6 UniFi AC LRs, 3 nanoHDs

[waxen scroll]

time for dream machine 2 beta

[rocky badge]

the udmp se lol

@clear igloo https://i.ryois.me/FGoTZLZ0Zb.png

And the 5 pack AC LR in another order

[clear igloo]

Nice 😄

[low pond]

Omg so much UI equipment

[rocky badge]

Moving to a single family for networking

This site currently has a Netgear consumer router, Cisco small business switch, and old af engenius APs

[whole trout]

Hey, does anyone know anything in relation to Web Remote and such?

(I was talking in relation to MA Lighting Systems, but I'll get into more detail about it in a bit.)

[waxen scroll]

lol i used to do lighting and I think @rocky badge does MA too

I didnt get into network stuff when I did it though, still DMX

[rocky badge]

nope

[waxen scroll]

tempted to do it again cause I can get training on all the modern stuff I missed, but when you work full time its hard to want to give up more hours ;/

you'll see

[rocky badge]

[rose sparrow]

Hey! This is my first time making a RJ-45 cable and my question might sound a bit noobish, so anyway. I just wanted to ask which standard should I follow for the wiring purpose? A or B? It's a 25m long CAT5E cable and I want to do gigabit on it

[green gust]

That's pretty similar to my setup.

I have the 24 port not POE, the Dream Machine - I put a 2TB Seagate drive in there. Two AC LR's, a Firman Power Conditioner and a few other things lol. It's all 10Gbps over SPF which was the selling point for me. I'm making a video on that soon actually.

[rocky badge]

Nice

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll 😭this is what google reminded me of on my Georgia trip

The airport we stopped at to charge had these Aruba APs with an epb fiber sticker and that light pole had ubiquiti p2p for surveillance

[low pond]

Premuba

[spiral anchor]

I did WebRTC and got these 2 errors. How do I fix this?

[dusk oasis]

Can someone tell me if this ethernet cable is cat5 or cat5e

Couldn't be a cat6

[frigid pine]

https://blog.router-switch.com/2016/04/ethernet-cables-cat-technical-physical-differences/

Look under Physical Differences heading.

or you could just read it on the cable.

[dusk oasis]

There is no reading on the cable

[frigid pine]

Then you need to read the above link.

[dusk oasis]

Thanks m8

Seems like mine is cat5

And it's UTP

[frigid pine]

adding a manual default route on a router and then default-information originate will have same effect as default-information originate always?

[peak cloak]

I always use b

Doesn't really matter

Just stay consistent and stick with one or the other

[waxen scroll]

I believe the default can still disappear if the next hop is unreachable

[frigid pine]

no no.

I am asking about the equivalency of both scenarios.

1. adding a manual default route on a router and then default-information originate
2. default-information originate always

[sage frigate]

so I have a situation where I cant connect my pc via lan cable cuz my parents wont let me run the cable through the house and wifi isnt the greatest in my room. any suggestions on how to get my pc connected so that I can game without too much latency?

[waxen scroll]

if the router has no default to begin with and you run that command it will generate a default inside of the routing protocol but still not have a default on itself.

[lean pebble]

vProtect master anyone ?

[low pond]

😆

[clear igloo]

1. Will originate a default route if a default route (either from static, another protocol etc) exists in the RIB
2. Will always send a default route downstream BUT if there is no route out at that box in the RIB then traffic will die

[hollow marlin]

^

[spiral anchor]

anyone knows how to forward a range of port on tp-link routers?

[frigid pine]

R1(12.1)----(12.2)R2(23.1)----(23.2)R3(34.1)----(34.2)R4(45.1)----(45.2)R5

I am labbing this on PT. R3, R4 and R5 are all OSPF neighbors. But always is not available in the command pallette. So was thinking to replicate always with a default route and default-information originate.

[vernal glacier]

how to dual pc stream without capture card on gamecaster

[hollow marlin]

PT does not contain all the commands you would typically find in production. always not being there is not a deal breaker but if you want to simulate it do ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 null0 with default-information originate and it will give you the same results. The null route will add a default route will add the route in the RIB

[frigid pine]

Okay. I added a default pointing out at R4(45.1).

Will try with null0

[lean pebble]

Hello

[smoky estuary]

Does anyone know of any reliable 10m cat 6/7 cables that I can get on amazon (for outdoor use)

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Ethernet-Waterproof-Outdoor-CABLE-V012/dp/B00GYGQ31E/

Anything labeled as Direct Burial really

[smoky estuary]

thats expensive as hell

[plain siren]

Yeah but I listed 500ft of it

[small glade]

have yall ever heard of an isp doing something earlier than promised?

[smoky estuary]

no

[plain siren]

Yes

[clear igloo]

You also listed CCA cable which is NOT in spec

[plain siren]

Usually when something more important gets added to their agenda

[smoky estuary]

internet here either fucking sucks (england) or is ridiculously overpriced

[plain siren]

This is true.

[small glade]

they said tomorrow afternoon we would get the package upgrade to gigabit well it happened now

not quite gigabit but that could be due to many factors

still 200-800 massive boost

[plain siren]

They may have pushed the provisioning application early to get time to do clear up time for other tasks

[tender hazel]

they might promise later than they think just so there is a buffer in case things take longer than expected

[plain siren]

"Cover your ass"

Under promise, over perform.

[tender hazel]

yup

[plain siren]

Same with "True engineers are conservative on paper"

[smoky estuary]

basically just something like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/TanQY-Outdoor-Ethernet-Network-Heavy-duty/dp/B07GJ55BZH

[small glade]

wonder if the speed limit is due to the isp or my routers nat not keeping up

or is it a limit of cat5e

[plain siren]

Could be any number of factors really, even something like a dirty connection (like actual dirt)

[tender hazel]

it is unlikely to be a cable issue with the cat5e cable

[small glade]

bravo 6 going dark router reboot

[plain siren]

Its also usually not "dedicated" bandwidth on residential grade, but more shared and assumed not everyone will be pushing gbit at same time on the same link

[tender hazel]

the vast majority of copper ethernet cable issues will end up manifesting in a drop of the auto negotiated speed from 1Gbps to 100Mbps

[plain siren]

or an outright failure of link

[small glade]

am back

[tender hazel]

yeah

[plain siren]

depends which pair gets fudged

[small glade]

gonna also try the speedtest standalone app

[plain siren]

try fast.com

Its Netflix's servers.

[small glade]

im trying to my isps own servers

it should be as good as it gets

good enough

[tender hazel]

latvia?

[plain siren]

AT&T Failed to pay their property taxes for their Texas PSTN Switching Facilities today...

[small glade]

those numbers esp upload are close enough to 1gbit to be explained by router nat and cat5e overhead

[small glade]

yes

[plain siren]

I wonder if this is the "ITS HAPPENING" stage of their death

[tender hazel]

what router do you have?

[small glade]

archer c7

v5

2 of them actually. one as an ap upstairs

but its only the routery one that matters

[plain siren]

The Archer has only 1Gbit shared on their bridge (the switch LAN Ports) so if something is using like 100mbit right now that could do it

[small glade]

nothing should be pulling any internet now as my parents are sleeping but maybe traffic across the cables could equate to close to 100mbps?

i mean a lot is connected to it

[plain siren]

NVR + PoE Cameras?
IoT Stuff
etc

[small glade]

a cable going upstairs connected to my pc and upstairs ap and my moms pc and another cable going into a powerline adapter for my experimantal basement ap setup

[plain siren]

And their Wi-Fi Nic is connected to the bridge as its own port

[small glade]

over wifi my dads laptop might be connected downstairs and my phone is defo connected to the upstairs ap

[plain siren]

Speaking of experimental AP's
Windows has specification for using its Wi-Fi Cards/Nic as a Soft AP or dedicated AP to act as a Wi-Fi AP for devices and even do Roaming Support
I wanna try this

[tender hazel]

that router apparently only has a single core 750MHz mipsbe processor

not exactly high end, it is probably pushing close to the limit

[small glade]

experimental as in i just shoved an old router i had down there with openwrt and the tx power cranked all the way down so it only basically serves the biggest room of the basement

and doesnt interfere with my or neighbors 2.4g devices

[plain siren]

I found out the other day my 4G/LTE Hotspot doesnt honor regional Tx limitations on accident.

[small glade]

need a wired link for it to actually work i only get like 30 mbit over the shitty powerline

[plain siren]

I set the Tx power to double regional limitations (max it could support) and forgot I did it... it was sitting on my leg and I noticed my leg was getting SUPER HOT

I go to check...

[small glade]

i plan to get wifi 6 or even 6e hardware when it gets a tad cheaper

[small glade]

this thing maxes out at 250mw i dont think that could do much in the way of direct microwave heating of tissue

lowest it goes is 5dbm

[plain siren]

I think this was doing 27dbm or whatever

I havent used the hotspot since then because I forgot how I set the power level and need to figure out how to reset it lol

[small glade]

ksp update being bottlenecked by hdd lmao

wait shit it is installed to my ssd

still being bottlenecked

0th world problems

[tender hazel]

wifi6 apparently doesn't give much enhanced performance unless you are very close to the device

[plain siren]

Or if you have enough devices constantly streaming data that the improved multi-streaming capabilities actually helps

[small glade]

6e sure because 6ghz range will be a tad smaller than 5ghz

wifi 6 on 5ghz should perform a tad better than ac at the same range theoretically

[plain siren]

traffic prioritization, OFDMA, meme-beamforming are the theoretical gains of Wi-Fi 6

[tender hazel]

"meme-beamforming"?

[small glade]

any beamforming without a rotating or phased array directional antenna is meme forming

[plain siren]

The meme beams

[small glade]

phased array beamforming router could be an absolute beast tho

a directional antenna that can solid stately aim itself

way too complicated and expensive tho

[plain siren]

I call it a meme-beamforming because most of the time thanks to the fact that usually users have connected devices in all directions of the router or more than 1/5th directional, it usually ends up moot

Its very environmentally situational

If you were to use multiple AP's in various locations of coverage, then yeah sure, it works out nicely. But a single AP... eh

[molten falcon]

Hey, so I have been using an Asus USB-AC53 Nano wifi adapter and I have been having this issue where my computer will have wifi go from 100 to 0 on loop, so I got a new adapter, Linksys AC1200 1.2Gbps which was working well for a little while but now it's happening again... I have multiple computers and this one is the only one showing this problem, this is on idle as well I should note

Sending is the dotted line, and Receive is the dark red filled in area. My internet is usually around 200-225 mbps and I get that almost each time I speed test, but as I'm watching youtube or working on my other accounts it will take forever to load anything internet related

[small glade]

my internet just went out for a few minutes

wonder if the isp ran some more changes

[undone basin]

Do you have drivers installed for it

[plain siren]

@hot patrol @thorny vector https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/july-6-2021-kb5004945-os-builds-19041-1083-19042-1083-and-19043-1083-out-of-band-44b34928-0a71-4473-aa22-ecf3b83eed0e There is our Spooler Fix for Win 10

its out of band

So you gotta apply the update yourself

[tender hazel]

hey @plain siren new MikroTik router leaked tonight, looks pretty cool

https://mt.lv/RB5009UG_S_IN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5kBvwGqGws

it has a CRS3xx switch chip included so it should be able to do wire speed switching with VLAN filtering just like the CRS3xx switch series

[plain siren]

Alright now were talking

[tender hazel]

USB port, biggest thing missing on the 4011

DC input and built in terminal block in

the terminal block is going to be really popular for WISP DC setups

although I suppose you could run DC even for a homelab, but the main reason to run DC would be for battery backup without need to convert multiple times

[dark kayak]

Anyone here happen to use Grandstream APs?

[plain siren]

Haha Yes actually

ive toyed with them because I use Grandstream Phones and PBX's

They are quite capable

[dark kayak]

any particular models? It's been recommend I look at them to repace a Google WiFi that's being used in a set-up too complicate for GWiFi to handle.

I'd love to have something I can push a config to the APs from a script/CLI and have it committed to a repo.

Probably looking at 2 APs in this place, it's not a big house, but looking in to how their controller/LAP stuff works

Not sure if the GWN7630 is worth it for my needs over the 7605 - can get them for about AUD97/ea

[plain siren]

Honestly ill tell you this

They do what they say on the box.

Which is more than what I can say for basically everything else

[dark kayak]

lol

[plain siren]

The 7630 fit me better for a 3.8K sq ft house deployment

And they provide an easy way to automate their configuration and deploy through a CI/CD from a Git repo

[hexed flume]

Hello all. I was wondering about getting a travel router as im in a hotel and there is no ethernet ports and my job requires a wired connection. Any suggestions?

[dark kayak]

My place is only 21sq - Master bedroom and study where I spend most of my time are adjacent to the garage, and I figure placed there a second AP on the lounge wall which is adjacent to the back bedroom will give more than enough coverage for the house if the range is even 1/4 of the claimed 150m range.

[twin tartan]

anyone who specializes in fixing internet problems pls i beg yall to dm me

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/GL-iNet-T-Mobile-EC25-AFFA-Installed-WireGuard/dp/B082X2DLMY I use this guy

[tight lynx]

Hey guys, I know that this is a dumb question to ask but still, I'm unable to see the router in my Network section in explorer. Can anyone help me to get it? Thank you

[waxen scroll]

i've never seen my routers in mine. thats normal

[tight lynx]

Nooo, It was visible and after a restart it's gone

So, Is it ok to just leave it?

[plain siren]

its when UPnP Applications do a UPnP Request to the Router

[thick minnow]

hey guys ,rn in game i always get ping spikes from 60 ping to 200+ ping, if i get a better internet package will my ping be more stable

my mbps rn is 10 and i plan to upgrade to about 100mbps next week

using wifi btw because router is in a diff room

[carmine moss]

wifi is the problem if there are more devices and you use isp stuff

[thick minnow]

so if i get faster package i will get more stable ping?

[carmine moss]

it will makes things quicker downloaded ping not eally expt if there are more popleusing it

[peak cloak]

well don't use wifi to benchmark

isolate the issues by using ethernet and then check latency

[hexed flume]

GL.iNet GL-MT1300 (Beryl) VPN Secure Travel Gigabit Wireless Router, AC1300 400Mbps (2.4GHz) + 867Mbps(5GHz) Wi-Fi, Pocket-Sized Hotspot, IPv6, Tor, NextDNS, MicroSD Slot, USB3.0 for Wi-Fi Repeater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MKZXGBY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_N9CFDYGDM5M3D7HGCNXQ
Will this work?

[gritty garden]

Do you all think using a vpn on airplane wifi could make it go faster? Because of peering issues or something

[peak cloak]

Nope

If anything slower

[gritty garden]

sad, I would expect the peering to be terrible and this could possibly fix it

[peak cloak]

Also depends to the server, but to any big destination I wouldn't expect peering to be an issue

[ruby shadow]

Anyone ever encountered network drives / shares disconnecting from WIN10 and "removing" saved login info? It baffles me since I prepared .bat file which should store login and make these network drives permanent but on some PCs it just does not make them permanent and they disappear after reboot. Sometimes they wont even use the specified login in the .bat file and require user to manually input it.

[thick minnow]

Hi I need a miktotik switch that at lest with 5 ports 1gb and chip do someone know a model?

[ruby shadow]

@thick minnowMikrotik RB260GS
Mikrotik CSS106-1G-4P-1S (RB260GSP)
Mikrotik Cloud Smart CSS610-8G-2S+IN
and many more

[thick minnow]

any ideas on what i can do to fix this. the ISP does nothing. they say the technicians are having a look then find no problem

[peak cloak]

ethernet?

[thick minnow]

yeah

i just checked the living room pc too. its been doing it for weeks.

[peak cloak]

sounds like isp issue

dsl, cable, fiber?

[thick minnow]

I think its WiMax

its an antenna on the roof.

the old ISP was worst. this was better for a fewmonths and its started again about 3 weeks ago

[peak cloak]

oh

rip

[thick minnow]

its like they keep it running well for a few months then downgrade you or something.

[peak cloak]

never heard of this standard, hmm

but probobly something on the wireless link

idk

[plain siren]

I mean, it could, but I never tried it

When it comes to shit like this, I only recommend the stuff i can put in my hands

[muted needle]

all this effort I'm putting into my Nextcloud server being able to send email

even bought a Linode server because residential internet legally has to have the port 25 blocked (in my country)

[thick minnow]

is this my ISP or other servers inbetween?

[peak cloak]

one seems to be isp

well 2

[thick minnow]

this is insane

[peak cloak]

actually 3 hops seem to be isp

to have packetloss

[thick minnow]

i wish it was my end so bad.

then i could fix it.

[peak cloak]

run it to 1.1.1.1

[thick minnow]

what is 1.1.1.1?

[peak cloak]

cloudflare

really big cdn

so like it should have less hops

[thick minnow]

it did spike to 6.3% packet loss

[peak cloak]

yeah that 7th hop is ISP

the reason I know is because it's a 10.x.x.x IP which is private, which means it has to be ISP

[thick minnow]

i just wanna play some games 😦

i changed ISP after 4 years of shit from them. the first 3 months with this ISP have been great. its the last 3 weeks

[peak cloak]

of course ICMP (ping and traceroute) isn't the best way to check latency and packet loss since they are low priority packets and can get dropped if a router has higher load

[thick minnow]

i get ping spikes in games and teleport often.

it sucks so bad

[peak cloak]

what game

[thick minnow]

all games

[peak cloak]

hmm

[low pond]

Seems like its a issue on the link from your home to the ISP, or ISP, etc. not really a issue of the other end stuff

[thick minnow]

arnt the first 3 hops my pc to router and router to modem?

[peak cloak]

no

well idk if you are double-nating

but you def are behind cg-nat

[thick minnow]

whats that?

[peak cloak]

3rd hop is ISP router

[peak cloak]

basically your router doesn't get a public ip, instead the public endpoint is your ISP

[peak cloak]

it's all private IPs until hop 11

[thick minnow]

ah

is there anything i can do other then spam my ISP?

[peak cloak]

don't think so

[thick minnow]

my old ISP it would be packet loss from 6pm to 12 at night. now its happening 24/7 for the last 3 weeks with the new ISP.

what a joke

[low pond]

Sounds like congestion ;v

of the old ISP at least

[peak cloak]

yep

[thick minnow]

yeah they defiantly signed up too many customers.

[peak cloak]

well, just not enough bandwidth to service them

over allocation it's called

well every residential ISP over allocates

[low pond]

Well, oversell

[thick minnow]

im in the middle of nowhere xD

[peak cloak]

but how much, and how good the qos is

[thick minnow]

the people generally come up in the weekends but the arnt the type to be doing stuff online all the time.

[peak cloak]

I always heard over allocate, same thing

[thick minnow]

I live in Spain. (im British but moved)

[thick minnow]

Thanks

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin ur enemy, pingplotter is in this chat

[low pond]

What else would you use

MTR? Ping plotter seems just a fancy version of it d:

[waxen scroll]

nothing which uses ICMP

my own NOC does this to me too. LOOK! Ping loss!

noooooo. try again.

@clear igloo curse COPP policies

[low pond]

Well, I at least am not aware of a better "generic standard" to ping a server 🤷‍♂️

[peak cloak]

what would you use?

ik about the whole ICMP low priority stuff

[waxen scroll]

icmp is fine for basic checks of a server on the other side of a network

its not fine for pingplotter checking network gear hop by hop

[peak cloak]

yeah, but what alternatives are there for an end user?

or are there none?

[waxen scroll]

none

[peak cloak]

yep

that's what I thought

[waxen scroll]

udp ping is a thing but I've honestly not tried it on a network device and if it did work I think the engineers would have deprioitized it along with icmp

[peak cloak]

ik on verizon fios I need to use udp mode on mtr in order for it to show hops

[plain siren]

I would say that Residential is not guaranteed but not over allocated.

Its cheap compared to dedicated bandwidth (Business SLA Packages) because they give to each breakout line of houses and combined bandwidth at the termination router an amount that is a general average of maximum peak assumed to come from normal residential use.

[peak cloak]

maybe not using right wording, but basically not having the right bandwidth to accomadate every customer using 100% of their bandwidth

[plain siren]

10 Houses, 1 Gbps each... but only 3 Gbps may ever be max used

So you can give 3 Gbps to all the houses and offer 1Gbps

[peak cloak]

yeah

that's over allocation?

[plain siren]

Technically, yeah

If suddenly all of those 10 houses wanted to spike 1Gbps....

Well now you got QoS and Balancing having to play and lower everyones speeds

Hence the "Up-to"

now if you purchase Business/Commercial grade however

They are going to switch to you another routing lane that is designed to handle dedicated bandwidth

[peak cloak]

I discovered like a week ago zayo had a line like the next street over and was curious to see the price

contact us

[plain siren]

How did that come out

[peak cloak]

idk, didn't contact them

must be $$$

especially dark fiber

[low pond]

Me and a friend in a different continent want a dark fiber between us /s

[peak cloak]

ethernet transit is prob cheaper

[low pond]

Surely is

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo cringe

[hollow marlin]

Nope. Zayo is utter trash. The amount of issue we have with them takes up too much time.

[tender hazel]

new CCR2004 models: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmt33XMLTqI

16 gig ethernet ports with full switch chip functionality like CRS3xx, plus two SFP+ ports

[molten falcon]

I'm not sure, I installed what it told me to on the disk, I'll get that info to you in a moment just got to find the box

I installed Firmware from www.linksys.com/support/wusb6300

which is what it says on the packaging instructions to install, I don't think I have anything other than that firmware wise that I had to manually install

[pastel dagger]

i have 1 gigabit connection and I am getting 152kbps whyyy

[eager lodge]

Anyone here done a wifi mesh w/Omada EAPs?

[plain siren]

Thatts TP link right

[plain siren]

https://static.tp-link.com/2020/202012/20201223/1910012926-Omada SDN Controller 4.2.4-User Guide.pdf Page 276

[eager lodge]

ya, i followed the instrucitons already -- or at least tried to. i've adopted my root AP. but its not detecting my un-adopted EAP (not connected by ethernet)

and yes, its in range -- its across the room, for the sake of getting things set up, to eliminate range as a possible issue

[plain siren]

Factory Reset the sucker, they are picky

[eager lodge]

i've done a factory reset on it a few times. i can try again

[plain siren]

Oh.. well then

[eager lodge]

these are EAP-620HD if that makes any difference. both US models.

[plain siren]

You updated the Firmware on the Root AP?

If so, you may have to sit there, update the FIrmware on the Uplink AP's through hardwire first

[eager lodge]

they both came with the latest 1.0.5 firmware already, checked that

[plain siren]

and they dont even show up as Isolated

Go-figure

[eager lodge]

nope. doesn't show up at all.

[plain siren]

If you click on Root AP, Go to Mesh Tab, rescan shows nothing?

[eager lodge]

Root AP doesn't have a "mesh" tab, i assumed that was due to there simply not being any mesh APs associated yet due to lack of adoption

I have mesh enabled in the site config, i've triple-checked that

[plain siren]

Something similar to this

[eager lodge]

oh my dear god. i accidentally got the model that doesn't do mesh.

[plain siren]

• O U C H *

[eager lodge]

how on earth do the BRAND NEW WIFI 6 models not support mesh

[plain siren]

Well actually Tp-Link does it right, thats why

They use a whole segregated STA Controller

That way you are not hammering the main client radio

[eager lodge]

fair enough

guess im exchanging for 245s. lol

[thick minnow]

can someone tell me why wifi routers have adopted this cyber-spider look? is it actually functional? surely 8 antennas is getting ridiculous

[peak cloak]

Omada does not support mesh standalone

You need the controller

And wdym by mesh, because far too many people think of it as one SSID for many APs

[peak cloak]

High gain? But tbh it's mostly just looks. You may have super high gain on AP, but you you will still be limited by client device tx strength. No enterprise AP looks like that, not even any high gain directional ones.

[glacial linden]

Does anyone use private internet access here?
If so, have you ever used port forwarding with it?

I'm considering getting it since my ISP just put me behind a CG-NAT and all my incoming connections stopped working (incl. DNSCrypt Pi, Minecraft Server and Router VPN server to remotely access my localnetwork), and ISP doesn't care at all... My options were to pay for a cloud server/VPS or go for a VPN with port forwarding support.

[plain siren]

Zero-Tier

https://www.zerotier.com/

[peak cloak]

They want a public ip endpoint tho

[plain siren]

Yeah you use it to bridge a public IP through a tunnel that bypasses CG-NAT

Zero-Tier is an adhoc way to step you up 1 hop to the same level as the ISP so you can handle NAT as you would normally if you got a public endpoint to work with

[peak cloak]

You still need a vps

And at that point just use wireguard

[plain siren]

IPv6 ftw

https://portmap.io/ This is also a cool service

[low pond]

is that related to ngrok

[thick minnow]

yeah thats what I was thinking, maybe it's to run 4x4 but in a "gamer" way, real ugly imo

Hey guys I need to compile a firmware image for my router can anyone help?

I need to turn my Asus DSL N55U into a Printer Server + Access Point, but the default firmware won't let me do so as it doesn't have AP feature.

Instructions in this GitHub repo is not clear at all.

https://github.com/matteocrippa/dsl-n55u-bender

Some of the directories are missing I think and didnt say where to execute the make command.

Please someone help me I've been trying for days and I'm f***ing tired.

[plain siren]

https://github.com/matteocrippa/dsl-n55u-bender/tree/master/toolchain < run it in this dir

[thick minnow]

@plain siren there is also another problem, when I run the command: it returns an error: failed to create symbolic link '/opt/brcm': no such directory or file.

[plain siren]

https://github.com/matteocrippa/dsl-n55u-bender/tree/master/tools/brcm

put this in your /opt/

actually, first you gotta make those modules inside there

[thick minnow]

But there is no such directory should I make one?

[plain siren]

K26/hndtools-mipsel-uclibc-4.2.4/

run make there

same with K24

the output should be a binary

[thick minnow]

So the command should be make dsl-n55u or just plain make?

Did it work I'm still not sure @plain siren

@plain siren hey man did it work?

[plain siren]

Dont look like it, honestly not enough info on their repo to figure out the build chain

would take about a day of focus to sift through for me to even get a grip

[thick minnow]

Then I think I need to contact the owner of the repo

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo @hollow marlin dealing with stupid right now... can you tell me why a cisco device would show an admin dist 0 and an admin dist 1 route in the table for a route?

show ip route 10.0.0.0 vrf test

10.0.0.0/24, attached
*via 1.1.1.1, vlan10, [0/0]
via 2.2.2.2, [1/0], static

someone set these up and I see no reason for it

could be stale config, but idk

the * makes me think the static isnt used anyway but weird that it shows two paths

[dusky rain]

Anyone happen to have experience with nginx proxy manager on unraid? Having some issues i cant figure out

[hollow marlin]

I wouldn't expect AD 0 based on that output unless something recursive is going in on cef

[little schooner]

who broke the internet this time??

[compact snow]

Is there a way to make something like test.example.com point to example.com:1234 or to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1234 thru a dns record?

[hollow marlin]

Just saw this on reddit. Someone broke DNS

[waxen scroll]

yeah

akamai. homedepot.com deaddddd

[eager lodge]

tons of shit went down. always surprises me how many companies feel its just fine to have a mission-critical service running through a single provider.

[waxen scroll]

you kind of have to

they charge an arm and a leg for these services and the costs to use multiple are crazy. plus in the case of dns it might be a management nightmare

@hollow marlin im sure some meetings are coming about ditching akamai but where do you move to? Cloudflare? The company that takes out 90% of the internet once or twice a year?

[eager lodge]

akamai's overpriced for their raw CDN services anyway, there's not really a point in using them other than "they're really good" (hint: no they arent). ya the add-on services can kind of tie you in but its still a /bad/ idea to make your whole setup rely on those.

i prefer to run a mix of DNS services and CDNs with some custom sync logic -- DNS can be synced fine between providers via some basic terraform work for example. deploy scripts can deploy to multiple CDNs easily.

amazon has something like five different CDNs they use in case any one fails, for example -- despite having cloudfront within their AWS portfolio

[queen pollen]

Guys i have a question. if you plug a 2.5GBps hub (or any other else bandwith) to a 1GBps router will it have the 2.5GBps bandwith

[eager lodge]

hub? who's making hubs anymore.

[queen pollen]

I meant switches

[waxen scroll]

amazon has paid millions in labor costs to come to that conclusion. most companies arent going to dev redundancy like that

thats why already dev'd solutions like akamai exist

[eager lodge]

switches will gladly run a different speed on every port, and USUALLY have higher aggregate switching throughput than just the top speed of a single port.

[eager lodge]

its not even that expensive to build, i've done it at small companies dozens of times now. 🤷‍♂️

[waxen scroll]

so when you quit, where are these small companies getting support from?

[eager lodge]

im not that special, and i leave plenty of documentation

[queen pollen]

Thanks a lot

[hollow marlin]

Options are getting slimmer by the year. Worse is said option are more often than not already using the big players and just being a proxy

[eager lodge]

i think the "future" is going to be based around how cloudfront and cloudflare run things -- focus on content delivery and toss in a "cloud function" option to run custom code at the edge to handle any sort of custom logic that older networks (akamai, limelight, etc) offer as baked-in addons.

akamai will hopefully die off at that point save for some age-old partners like playstation, apple, etc

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll https://i.ryois.me/wXdgi0ywAk.png

Still got 5 more to adopt....

I don't have the POE switch yet

[fallow dagger]

is anyone able to help me fix my internet speed issues?

i am pants at setting up stuff on modems and routers

[peak cloak]

Depends to where

To another local device on 2.5g then yes

To the internet no

[last crane]

Spent 6 years on viasat (sat internet) with high ping and low speeds.
Recently I put in 80 dollars, used equipment and some elbow grease to improve my situation
Components:

novatel wireless "mifi" 4G usb U620l modem
30 dollar usb extension with waterproof case
free router
used RPI model 3
using my rpi to bridge the wifi to ethernet then the router to create a wlan interface and to act as a switch.
Now i can actually play games and stream HD videos!
Images:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829870777976881222/866496161707196416/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829870777976881222/866496162264645652/image1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829870777976881222/866496162604646400/image2.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/829870777976881222/866497348804149278/unknown.png

[plain siren]

Raspi LTE Modem Hat >:D

[last crane]

Yeah well i used official equpment from my cell company (verizon)

[last crane]

does that take a 4ff nano sim?

[plain siren]

https://www.seeedstudio.com/LTE-Cat-1-Pi-HAT-USA-VZ-p-3061.html

[last crane]

yeah but That wouldnt work for me because i get about -118 DBM inside my room and about -106 dbm on the roof where the actual modem is located.

[plain siren]

And if you happen to have a motherboard with a Wi-Fi Card in it... its a M.2 Wi-Fi card. It also uses those tiny antenna connectors to <> SMA... which would work for this

[last crane]

https://www.amazon.com/Proxicast-Universal-Wide-Band-Omni-Directional-Outdoor/dp/

^^ this is more than i paid for the ENTIRE setip

[plain siren]

Well it was an example, there is many cheap <> Expensive LTE antennas

[last crane]

the modem and case thingy for it cost 80 total. rpi ive had for 4 years so i just threw it together using what i had 🤷

[plain siren]

Like this guy which is what I use for $9

[last crane]

yeah i had one of those but i couldnt find the adapter for the antenna port on the U620l.

[plain siren]

you mean these guys?

[last crane]

yeah

i couldnt find one

[plain siren]

Your Motherboard have a Wi-Fi Card?

[last crane]

nope

[plain siren]

Oof.
https://www.amazon.com/Female-Connector-Antenna-Pigtail-Extension/dp/B071HJN1H9/ Here is the Link to them to save for future ref if you want it

U.FL

[last crane]

haha yeah i was no where close to finding that

anyways i was going to order this instead because we need it instead of just a 1 device antenna heh
https://www.amazon.com/weBoost-Booster-Apartment-Verizon-Approved/dp/B08Z68L2J7/

[plain siren]

Cell Boosters (Weboost especially) are great, but in reality, your issues will come from them damn compact modems tbh

Having the PHY Radio away from the antenna does wonders

[last crane]

i mean its not a noticable difference

from more compact to less compact at least what ive tested

both get within -2 dbm of eachother

[low pond]

I see these in the public kiosk machines

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/Yeacomm-Wireless-Hotspot-Antenna-Support/dp/B083TH42R8/ I can also attest to these things

[last crane]

heh

[plain siren]

Yeah I took it off my purchase list

[last crane]

yeah once the direct deposit check hits im buying the weboost thing

[plain siren]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0871SZQDW/ @last crane Check these guys out too. I got quite a few people attesting to them after replacing older weboost's

Used to be WeBoost was the only one worth a damn

[last crane]

hm yea and it works on band 13 nice

[lean pebble]

Hello crazy networking ppl, how are we today / tonight?

[plain siren]

Ultrawide Band Location actually works so pleasantly surprised and pleased.

[waxen scroll]

[undone basin]

🔫

[placid scroll]

anyone knows how to setup denial of service for comtrend-vr3060 i just need to know what values to set

[waxen scroll]

https://soundcloud.com/ryan-flowers-916961339/dns-to-the-tune-of-let-it-be

[cunning storm]

hey guys

so i tried to access my other PC drive through the network (wifi), now 1 of my drive i specified is not there

can you guys help me ?

[crisp bobcat]

Anyone has any good tips to mask my Minecraft ip?
prefareably without paying XD
cus i want to host a server for community.

[naive terrace]

I guess you need a static ip

[peak cloak]

No

[peak cloak]

You need a proxy

There are port proxy services out there

I think ngrok is one, portmapper?

Cloudflare has options but those are paid

[vivid frigate]

can I host a game server on a VPS?

if I can, how?

the game: synergy

[crisp bobcat]

they are safe n good to use?

[vivid frigate]

are you hosting in on your PC?

[peak cloak]

Yes, how well depends on the specs

[vivid frigate]

wait a sec

[peak cloak]

Depends on the service

[vivid frigate]

https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/vps/

the pulsar one

[crisp bobcat]

got any recommendation?

[peak cloak]

^

[peak cloak]

I have no clue what synergy is

[vivid frigate]

half life 2 multiplayer basically

[peak cloak]

2gb is a bit low for a game

[vivid frigate]

ikr

[peak cloak]

Just look at the reccomended specs

[vivid frigate]

it's the same as half life 2

you must've heard of half life 2 right?

[low pond]

In all fairness I TOO do not know the game but wouldn't recommend Nameshit VPS's

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll Looking at a VOIP solution to replace this site's POTS

Right now looking at 3cx + flowroute

I need to check what their alarm & fire system uses though

See if I can move it to either cellular or get an ATA

[clear igloo]

@rocky badge voice is the devil!

[rocky badge]

They're paying ~$130/mo for voice rn

[waxen scroll]

i used to pay for cellular and i deleted it

such a waste

[rocky badge]

They could be paying ~$20/mo

Keep E911 and such

Right now they're paying for 4 E911 lines

[waxen scroll]

imagine paying $100/yr for a cellular backup that pretty much will never get used

@rocky badge whats nice is i own my alarm. what about the poor people who are stuck with ADT or similar

$50/m monitoring. lmao

[rocky badge]

nice

this is a business lol

[waxen scroll]

you get $8/m if you own the alarm and go elsewhere

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/aH4Y2QKZgT.png

@clear igloo I'm going to see if they can get 300/300 and a static IP instead of 150/150 and 150/40 lol

[clear igloo]

lol, yah

[hollow marlin]

How many lines do they have?

[rocky badge]

4

[hollow marlin]

I don't remember our new pricing. I know we have a lot of installs that replace 3cx setups

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/vJScOH82f8.png

Then I'm going to setup in 3cx 911 outbound to be the phone w/ e911

[hollow marlin]

Just make sure if the numbers are changing providers the address are updated. e911 is where you are now into legal territory.

[rocky badge]

yeah

[hollow marlin]

Just make sure the provider has the address and dial 933 after setup to confirm

[iron slate]

hopefully this is the right discord server to ask, i have a client that has terrible outside wifi, they currently use a Unifi set up with a mesh system outside, they say it sucks and would like to get that upgraded irregardless of the cost, im asking within reason, what are good solutions that have worked for you guys/gals ?
thanks,
BOF

[low pond]

Dont use mesh

Just hardwired ethernet to many AP's I guess seems like a better solution

[peak cloak]

Use ethernet wired APs, not mesh

[iron slate]

@low pondhardwire isnt possible in this location

[peak cloak]

Then wireless point to point radios then have APs

So at each AP location you would have an AP and a P2P radio

Idk much about this wireless stuff, but something like this https://mikrotik.com/product/RBSXTsq5nD

[iron slate]

damn why didnt i think of that! my only concern is the location is like 200FT from the nearest ap ( indoors) but i feel like just a ap bridging should suffice but it doesnt :/

[peak cloak]

You could keep the current APs, just use p2p antanaes instead of wifi backhaul

[peak cloak]

A directional wifi AP may work

But you would need 2

And that would be just for the AP - AP link

[fallen inlet]

Where do i get a 1km ethernet cable

[peak cloak]

You don't

Use fiber

[fallen inlet]

Make me understand

[peak cloak]

You cant use ethernet for such long distances

It's max 100m iirc

@fallen inlet what are you trying to do?

[fallow dagger]

i have a question

[peak cloak]

Just ask

[fallow dagger]

i am having latenancy issues and i just replace my modem which increased my DL speed but did nothing for my Lat should i replace my router then since its most likely that thats holding me back?

or is it an issue with my ISP?

[peak cloak]

How bad is the latency?

And what medium is it?

Dsl? Coax? Fiber?

[fallow dagger]

the lat keeps jumping all over the place

and its regular coax

have not gotten fiber yet and screw Dsl

my loaded gets up to like 50 and up all the time

unloaded i am usually at 8 up to 20

usually

[peak cloak]

Sounds like congestion

[fallow dagger]

i only have like 6 devices on at all times

[peak cloak]

On isp side

[fallow dagger]

and most of the time whats taking bandwidth actively is one first stick and one gaming pc

oh well then i am fucked then

[peak cloak]

Well wdym by loaded and unloaded

When your downloading or something?

[fallow dagger]

i use fast.com

and i think so yeah

[worthy stirrup]

would i get any benefit using cat6 from my second router if the cable that connect my second router to the isp one is cat5e?

[vivid frigate]

no

local communication will be faster but it wouldn't make your internet faster

[tulip rivet]

Hey - just let me know if this is too basic a question for this channel - I have never used any router other than the one(s) provided by my ISP, to what extent can shopping around for a third-party router enhance or change the functionality/performance of your home internet connection, both LAN and to the internet? Similarly, what do you reckon would provide the best possible streaming quality for my nVidia Shield TV Pro when using nVidia Gamestream to stream from my desktop upstairs to my tv downstairs? WiFi performance was poor so I've connected to ethernet now, with my desktop upstairs via powerline.

[cunning storm]

hey i have the same question too

my ISP router is crappy af that we must restart it every hour or so

[tulip rivet]

i don't have bad performance network wise per se, just wondering if it is something worth putting some money into

[peak cloak]

If you don't have issues then it's fine

For me, I need a good router for the features, not performance per say

[cunning storm]

okay

[thick minnow]

can you use PVC ethernet cable outside?

[rocky badge]

I tend to avoid Ethernet cable outside, but that also depends how much "outside" its getting lol

[cunning storm]

i don't have one

[thick minnow]

~100m

[rocky badge]

yeah no lol

[clear igloo]

100m is the limit for ethernet cables anyway, go fiber

[cunning storm]

fiber is kinda expensive here

[rocky badge]

fiber Internet != fiber cabling

[thick minnow]

them why can you buy 500m ethernet cable?

[clear igloo]

You're buying bulk to cut it up

[rocky badge]

That's bulk cabling

if its on a spool or in a box, its for bulk

[cunning storm]

just like that time linus buying bulk thermal paste

[rocky badge]

for installers/etc to run in a building

[thick minnow]

nvm, that makes sence

is single link fiber fine?

[peak cloak]

Get yourself some fiber, won't need to worry about interference and stuff

[rocky badge]

single link?

single mode you mean?

[clear igloo]

I'd just get 100m of this:
https://www.amazon.com/Meter-Singlemode-Duplex-Fiber-Optic/dp/B00552OG9E?th=1

[thick minnow]

SL

[peak cloak]

Then you need sfp modules and media converters (sfp <-> ethernet)

[clear igloo]

Depends on where it's going from and terminating at, if it's switch to switch then just SFPs (assuming they have SFP slots)

[peak cloak]

Yeah true, doubt they would have something with sfp tho

[clear igloo]

yah

Still although it's probably a bit more expensive you're not risking interference, lightning strikes, and cable limits leading to dropped frames, corruption, link issues, etc.

[low pond]

Eh I'd still use ethernet, can't we just use Switches every few meters to act like an "repeater"

[thick minnow]

i mean, its only for an acces point

[rocky badge]

Ew, no

[clear igloo]

It's running outside, good luck putting a switch outside

[cunning storm]

that's kinda thing that a rich person would do

unless your switch is made out of RasPi

[rocky badge]

The smart thing is to use fiber

You don’t want that Ethernet cable to fry stuff on either end

[clear igloo]

or cut the distance the line needs to go to reach the AP

[thick minnow]

why can i only get 50 meters

[cunning storm]

you can use switch every meter or so but that's kinda waste of money i guess

[cunning storm]

especially when lightning strikes

[thick minnow]

can you use fiber female-to-female to extend the cable?

[clear igloo]

Yes

a coupler or two is fine

[peak cloak]

I've never really worked with fiber but I heard you want to keep the end clean

Keep the cap on if not in use

[thick minnow]

LC or SC fiber?

[clear igloo]

LC

[thick minnow]

whats the difference? the only thing i can find is the connector...

[flint matrix]

just get a spool of fiber

and rent a cleaver/fusion splicer for a day

[clear igloo]

Yup, that's it, SC is thicker/stubby

[waxen scroll]

no, MPO-12

[thick minnow]

rly wow

[clear igloo]

sc = stubby connector
lc = long connector
That's how I always remember it

[waxen scroll]

*slaps @clear igloo around a bit with 100G

[flint matrix]

lol

[clear igloo]

I'll slap you with 400G QSFP-DDs 😛

[flint matrix]

sc stubby

[waxen scroll]

my boss wants to bully your company with 3rd party optics btw

[clear igloo]

lol, do it!

[waxen scroll]

as-if you're gonna cave and make our discount bigger

[thick minnow]

ok, i have selected OS2 single mode cable and 2 single mode coverters

[clear igloo]

Cool

[thick minnow]

total 172 euro

[clear igloo]

Can you link the converters? Just to double check

[thick minnow]

can i post links here?

[clear igloo]

yah

[thick minnow]

https://www.allekabels.nl/glasvezel-converter/11521/1168884/sc-glasvezel-converter-singlemode.html

[clear igloo]

Ah, you'll need SC to LC converter then