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shut vessel
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that’s the mini box

cedar igloo
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What does the main box say on the settings > status page?

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is it connected to broadband router?

shut vessel
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idk

cedar igloo
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ok.. im guessing you have rebooted both of them by unplugging the power out the back for a sec?

shut vessel
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yes

cedar igloo
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Ok. on the main box, highlight "settings" and type '001' and press select

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is wireless enabled?

shut vessel
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wait a sec

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what?

cedar igloo
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press home. then down until you are highlighting settings

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do not go into settings

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then type 001 on the remote, followed by select

shut vessel
cedar igloo
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like, press the down button until you are highlighting settings in the menu

shut vessel
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there isn’t any

cedar igloo
shut vessel
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ye

cedar igloo
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thats a mini box, so it will look a little different

shut vessel
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yes

cedar igloo
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but make it look like that on the left

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then on the remote, press 001

shut vessel
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yes

cedar igloo
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and select

shut vessel
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this came up will it affect the warranty

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ffs

cedar igloo
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it shouldnt

shut vessel
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it didn’t upload

cedar igloo
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its just an engineers menu

shut vessel
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it said these settings should only be changed if advised by sky

cedar igloo
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i mean, if you dont want to do this, give them a call but i dont see any reason why it will affect warranty

shut vessel
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uhhh ok

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i’ll go ahead

cedar igloo
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you probably wont even need to change settings. its just ruling something out

shut vessel
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if it affects warranty i’ll just say it was some random from discord lol

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anyway what’s next

cedar igloo
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what does it say for 2.4ghz and 5ghz wireless?

shut vessel
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to turn wireless connectivity on or off

cedar igloo
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but what is selected?

shut vessel
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on for both

cedar igloo
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thats fine then. can you quickly check one of the mini boxes to see if it matches?

shut vessel
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no because of this

cedar igloo
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oh. you cant get on any menus?

shut vessel
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i’ll try my one upstairs

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brb

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oooo it’s on

cedar igloo
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we havent changed any settings...

shut vessel
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ikr

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it says on for both

cedar igloo
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oh nvm. i thought you meant it was working

shut vessel
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ye the sky mini box upstairs is working

cedar igloo
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id just reset the other one then. is there a reset pin in the back?

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wait

shut vessel
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the main one?

cedar igloo
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no

shut vessel
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the mini?

cedar igloo
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hold the WPS button (looks like refresh button) on the main followed by the mini that isnt working

shut vessel
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ok

cedar igloo
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they should start flashing when you hold it down long enough

shut vessel
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brb

cedar igloo
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this should try to reconnect them

shut vessel
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the main one is flashing orange and the mini (not working) is flashing red

cedar igloo
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flashing orange is normal. red isnt.

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maybe just try to unplug the mini that isnt working again? hopefully it will show a menu

shut vessel
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they’ve both stopped

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wait a sec

cedar igloo
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wtf... the one that was working just stopped?

shut vessel
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AYY it worked

cedar igloo
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everything working now?

shut vessel
shut vessel
cedar igloo
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so, the one upstairs fixed itself, and the other just needed reconnecting

shut vessel
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k

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i bet you it’s stuck on that screen now

cedar igloo
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if it stops again, id get an engineer out to have a look

shut vessel
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ye

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tbh this isn’t even mine it’s my parents it’s just stopped working

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i was bored so why not fix it

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now it says this

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nooooooooooooooooo

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i’m resetting it now

cedar igloo
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resetting what?

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just the mini?

shut vessel
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ye

cedar igloo
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i guess all you can do is try... if it doesnt work, just get an engineer to sort it

shut vessel
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ok

cedar igloo
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not sure if theres a callout charge though.

shut vessel
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thx for your help

cedar igloo
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didnt really do much. the one that worked fixed itself

shut vessel
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lol

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i never i mean NEVER use the one upstairs

cedar igloo
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just swap them around?

shut vessel
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it’s connecting to my main box rn

shut vessel
cedar igloo
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if the one upstairs is working, swap it with the one that isnt

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if you dont use the one upstairs

shut vessel
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that’s effort tho and i cba

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ykw brb

cedar igloo
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if it doesnt work after swapping it, there must be an issue getting the wireless signal to that room

shut vessel
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k

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my wifi for my phone and ipad work atleast

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but my controllers don’t work

shut vessel
cedar igloo
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probably issue with the mini box then

shut vessel
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ye

cedar igloo
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controllers can just be repaired to the mini boxes

shut vessel
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but i need 2 controllers becuase one turns the tv and one to use the sky box

cedar igloo
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can you not hold down the power button to turn off the tv?

shut vessel
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no

shut vessel
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kill me now

plain siren
low pond
undone basin
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does anyone here have a synology nas and running plex wondering if you like it and it works well? thinking about buying a synology.

plain siren
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I have a tendency to suggest the following:
"Let the NAS be a NAS and focus on NAS things only so it can be a better NAS"

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Now if you were to lets say... Plex Server on a diff machine thats more suited for it and use the NAS as a NAS and store the files on the NAS that plex can access, most mid-low and mid tier options from both companies and higher will do that just well.

undone basin
plain siren
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Oh man, so thats a whole other oof for me:

Unraid is just like its name... Unfuckingusable to me. Its basically limited to single disk IOPs performance and to whichever the slowest disk is.

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However, still the same recommendation as before: If you build a NAS, let it be just a NAS.

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Build the NAS with cheaper hardware but capable of doing the needed disk amount and perhaps a decent nic, you wouldnt even need alot of RAM or a decent CPU to achieve the optimal

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And then build a system that is meant for process services/servers with the better hardware and use that

peak cloak
plain siren
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Oh that long ass text file right?

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The one where the guy sounds pissed writing the thing heh

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Or, buy a cheap QNAP/Synology and then build a Plex/Whatever machine instead of the more expensive NAS'

undone basin
peak cloak
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freenas is also good

plain siren
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Its basically the optimal server OS for just about anything since its literally a very basic linux with only what you need to run a server with no redundant things like... networkmanager + systemd's networkd being both offered out the box (Config clutter in /etc/ is annoying to me)

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Alpine + ZFS and you got yourself the cleanest NAS

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Albeit without anything like a GUI/Desktop Env

peak cloak
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when the optimal server os is light

plain siren
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Yeah, You could stick an Atom Processor into something like that and still get full speed NAS

undone basin
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Really?

plain siren
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Yeah, my NAS is running on an i3 low tier piece of shit

low pond
plain siren
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My trashing NAS box I use as a temp storage

undone basin
plain siren
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I do run a mirror on my bigger system

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Quite a few tbh

plain siren
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And surprisingly little overhead so long as you aint stacking tons of roles on it

plain siren
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Although limited in storage size and space

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For a jank tiny storage machine, shit... you can saturate a 1Gbit link

undone basin
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What about a cheap Synology?

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For like 200 or 300

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Cause I heard there os was fantastic

plain siren
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So is QNAP's look into them too. But yeah it would work fine tbh

undone basin
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I've never heard of QNAP

plain siren
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They are basically what I would call the AMD of NAS' if Synology was Intel

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they are just as big if not bigger at this point

undone basin
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So better?

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Or equal

plain siren
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Both depending on what you can get your hands on

undone basin
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Well I will do some research. Thanks!

plain siren
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I usually recommend Synology and QNAP in the same motion most the time when doing these suggestions

undone basin
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Ok

ornate jungle
# undone basin does anyone here have a synology nas and running plex wondering if you like it a...

I have a DS918+ with 2x 6TB drives in it running as a glorified Linux ISO seedbox. (Legit, I host various debian based Linux distros for those who wish to download them over peer to peer.) It was okay for Plex transcoding, but I uninstalled Plex because I just prefer opening everything using VLC media player and letting it do the decoding on local devices, even if that's not the most efficient way to do it. (With more time I'd probably get things setup better but alas, what even is time anyway?)

plain siren
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The only time you will honestly need some serious storage computing power is if you are doing multiple multipath'd streams and consistent decent bandwidth file operations (Databases for example)

plain siren
peak cloak
undone basin
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I will only usually have 1 to 3 streams at most coming off of Plex a a time

plain siren
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The only real optimization I can suggest is a SLOG Storage +/or a SSD Cache

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When utilized correctly, it can be used to prefetch files being accessed and allow better saturation of the network link and as a buffer for writing large files to without having to wait on the HDD's to catch up

ornate jungle
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Exactly yeah - the wimpy processor and 4GB RAM in my Synology can handle a couple Plex encodes before it hits close to 100% utilization, but as @peak cloak noted, you can save on CPU cycles by transcoding media into a more standardized and adaptive format prior to watching it. Best to also research the Synology or QNAP you plan on buying beforehand as different models have different hardware capable of more or less simultaneous encodes.

plain siren
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Synology and QNAP both offer solutions with this

plain siren
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Basically the same concept as compressing files

ornate jungle
plain siren
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Yezzir

ornate jungle
plain siren
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Synology has that dank NVR Solution which is really the appeal for their options to me is

peak cloak
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I want to get some security cams up

plain siren
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QNAP is otherwise the go-to for me since it is a bit more "open" and configurable. I really couldnt push one over the other anymore however since they basically are neck to neck

undone basin
plain siren
ornate jungle
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Same here. I've set aside a budget to get into Ubiquiti stuff in my own home, just haven't bit the bullet yet. I want a UDM with WiFi 6 (strictly so I don't have to replace it for years to come) or a UDM Pro with a couple APs and a 16port PoE switch. Then I could run a couple PoE cameras and have them connect to Synology Surveillance Station.

plain siren
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UDM Pro tbh, the UDM is underwhelming if im being totally objective about it

peak cloak
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I don't like ubiquiti, but everyone can do what they want

plain siren
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I dont really like them either, its honestly at the core of what it is: Shit.

ornate jungle
# undone basin hmm. Is it like unusable slow?

It's kind of like running Windows 7 on an older system with only 2GB RAM - it's slower than a desktop OS because running a full blown interface in a browser is taxxing, but for the amount you actually have to login to the interface, it's very usable.

undone basin
plain siren
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There is so many problems with their raw network capabilities

undone basin
plain siren
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And if you want a potentially nicer NVR with much more going for it: Using a server with Shinobi installed on it (but still using NAS as storage) can give you some very nice control/command features and even extras like facial recog, ALPRS, and object detection + a proper motion detection/notification system.

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Along with things like Alexa Show Display integration or an easy to access Matrix display

ornate jungle
# undone basin I assume they will fix it in their next update

There's nothing to "fix"... You're usually going to experience a more sluggish interface when accessing something as complex as an Operating system through a web browser rather than via a mouse and keyboard on bare metal or via something like UnRAID.
If you want snappy desktop like performance, you'd be looking at building an actual server and connecting a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, or at the very least, remote desktoping into it on the local network.

peak cloak
plain siren
peak cloak
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what are the limitations of CE?

plain siren
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You can shove shinobi on a raspi and itll run just fine. Pair it with a NAS and good to go

peak cloak
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nice

plain siren
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I utilize Dahuahahahahahahah---- Based Cameras myself (Hikvision, Amcrest) which have basically the standardized communication functions instead of something stupid like a webserver on a camera (Ubiquiti...) and it works fantastic with Shinobi.

ornate jungle
peak cloak
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or is there something else for control of cameras?

plain siren
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Well L3 put simply is: Instead of sending your data all the way back up the chain of switches to the router then back down to a machine that is potentially on the same switch... L3 Switches can do the routing right there reducing hops greatly at times

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Really helps with shit like VoIP and clusters of servers that talk to each other. Wont storm up the network

peak cloak
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so your switch is also a router

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basically

plain siren
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Basically yeah.

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But not fully featured routing like needing to do Router Advertising for IPv6 Prefixes, DHCP Options, etc

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One cool thing you can do with L3 Switches is put your uplink on one side of the network but your gateway/router on another side down the chain and then forgo the typical placement requirements of edge router

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"Router on a Stick" as its called

plain siren
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ONVIF is however a standard really and ONVIF Capable devices use RTP/RTSP

peak cloak
plain siren
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Its a China standard.

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Set by the Ministry of Public Security

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Pretty much all China Made Cams support this

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Hikvision/Amcrest etc included

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I just disabled it in each camera's configuration personally

low pond
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Not familar with CCTV based protocls

plain siren
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In 2021, if you are installing fresh wired Coax Security Cameras, exit the building and give up your credentials.

low pond
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Prem DVR

plain siren
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One of situations an L3 Switch comes in handy is here since ideally the NVR + IP Cameras would all be on an L3 PoE Switch to isolate the network talking from eating up the routers resources/upstream links

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Top it off, you would isolate communication upstream from the L3 Switch into ideally a single VLAN since (ideally...) it would be a dedicated camera switch

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A hidden feature in many cameras is macsec support too

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So the physical link between Switch and Camera is encrypted (The ethernet communication)

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RIPing any MITM Attempts

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And the only communication upstream should technically be NVR <> Router <> Client Devices and nothing from the cams would exit the L3 Switch.

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L3 Switches can also run DHCP Servers alot of the times, so you can even serve the DHCP for the cameras in an isolated manner

peak cloak
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only 100 bucks, may be good for object detection and such for security cams

heady brook
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My current house doesn't have a way to route ethernet cables through the walls, what's the best way to get a single (just one) wifi... extender type of thing that is effective?

peak cloak
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do you have coax in the walls already?

heady brook
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No, none of that. I have one coax line coming from the cable box

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tag: @peak cloak

peak cloak
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powerline I guess may be good, but may not be any better than just over wifi depending on the wiring

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idk anything really about powerline or wifi extenders

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never had the need to use it

carmine moss
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powerline can be hit or miss and wifi extenders work but make it slower> If you really need the extra range look for a better access point if using the isp combo thing for sure. or move things closer if you can. @heady brook

heady brook
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According to google powerline uses electrical wiring for this purpose, so yeah that's not a good option for this situation. This house has old electrical wiring in the house. I wonder what the best type of wifi extenders are

verbal rapids
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anyone knows about japanese ipv4 over ipv6? I am based on japan and was looking to buy a router, but japan is using these non standard protocols, variations of dual stack lite named v6 plus, transix etc etc. Here are a list of routers from buffalo - https://www.buffalo.jp/support/other/network-ipv6.html

Apparantly router brands like asus do not have these features.

peak cloak
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v6 plus seems to be some custom ipv4 over v6 tunnel

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idk about "v6 connect"

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@verbal rapids so you want to buy an "american" router for use in japan?

verbal rapids
peak cloak
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what spec does your ISP use

verbal rapids
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@peak cloak
Right now I will get connection from BB excite which uses Transix. but later this year (may be december) I was considering changing to Rakuten which is the only ISP right now using Crosspath (クロスパス).

peak cloak
verbal rapids
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Well, f**** custom technology which nobody is using aside from japan. They really love these galapagos techs.

verbal rapids
peak cloak
plucky palm
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Hey I need help with my pc

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Anyone care to help out?

tender hazel
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@verbal rapids in your case you might have the best luck finding a router that you can flash with something like openwrt which can support ds-lite

verbal rapids
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@tender hazel
I presume there will be configuration depending on the variant of ds-lite here (tranasix, v6 plus etc). And information about those custom versions on the internet ought to be in japanese language.

tender hazel
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yeah

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but I think something like openwrt is your best bet probably in this case

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you can customize it as much as you want, you can build your own firmware if needed with custom contents

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a lot of the mikrotik devices work nicely for openwrt, mikrotik has not locked down their devices to only work with their firmware - they allow you to use openwrt instead if openwrt supports that device

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not that you have to use mikrotik but whichever vendor you go with you have to make sure that the device you are getting can be flashed with openwrt

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otherwise you might spend money on a device that you can't get openwrt working on

verbal rapids
# tender hazel yeah

Do you have any link to article/blog that have openwrt configured and running with custom ds-lite variations like transix?
Thing is this will be my main internet connection, and I don't want to get into system that "will work" on theory.

tender hazel
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I've never heard of transix

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and searching comes up with nothing - so no, I don't have a link to an article or blog for that

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but @verbal rapids even though I do not use openwrt myself I know that you can do your own custom compilations of it that include whatever you want

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and it has a package manager to install what you like

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I can't say it will work, but of the available options if you don't want to have to use your ISP provided router, it is the best shot you have, and if it doesn't work, probably nothing will

vapid rapids
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Hi guys I'm back after doing a bit more research on network cards for a future 10gbit setup. I've stumbled upon these cards for my 3pcs and I'm thinking these are going to be what I need. https://www.ebay.com/itm/353226740571?hash=item523df4535b:g:ROEAAOSw0Ktfe0k9 Does that and some DAC cables attached to a switch work together? Everything I've read says if should work out fine but would like a second opinion before proceeding 😀

eternal mountain
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Looking for some smart people to help me solve my home wireless network situation. I need to cover a 150m2 / 1600 square foot house with a single network. I don't know if i need repeaters, access points or routers or whatever else there is out there. And i don't know which ones to use to avoid them creating different networks.

waxen relic
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Hi My Asus RX-AX56U keeps over heating so I was thinking of upgrading to something with more bandwidth and true one Gigabit capable?

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I’m not interested in WiFi

twin zealot
twin zealot
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as long as every repeater or acces point is in the same network your only gonne need 1 router

waxen scroll
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@clear igloo @hollow marlin we're having the same issues. Lots of CCIEs who dont know anything

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i remain confused how CCIE is a good cert at this point

clear igloo
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paper tigers aka cheating in certain places is a huge reason people like that can manage to get them which waters down the accomplishment and makes them look like bad certs sadly

peak cloak
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Or er-x by ubiquity too, although that one can't do gigabit without hardware acceleration which can cause issues with certain things like ipv6 which I had issues with

waxen relic
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I was looking at milrotik is the hex good for high traffic that would kill a home router

peak cloak
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It can do 2 gigabit duplex routing

peak cloak
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Routeros though is a bit complicated, but if you want to learn networking go for it. There is a quickset menu if you just want the basics

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Phone app too I heard is better for newbie

waxen relic
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I like security options

peak cloak
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This is the web interface

peak cloak
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So if you just want something plug and play, this isn't for you

sour willow
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Is there a network cmd list somewhere out there? Trying to hook up a workstation printer and the computer cant see it, even typing the ip in

peak cloak
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To list the ip?

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Wdym by network cmd list

sour willow
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Running out of ideas 😅

peak cloak
sour willow
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It worked but we replaced a router with switch maybe that's why

peak cloak
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Wut

sour willow
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We had 2 routers in a row 🤣

peak cloak
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Yeah

wanton sphinx
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you might need 2 printers just in case the first one decides to go on holiday

sour willow
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Also eero you can either A. Log into your Amazon account or B. Use a eero account which sends a SMS to account holder..

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Cant help someone if you cant login a normal way...

sour willow
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It's one of these trying to hook back up

sour willow
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instead of a normal username and password like a normal router so you can access it easier if your helping someone 😒 so if there lets say in town which is 30min driving, it means they get a text message which they will have to call back

plain siren
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Actually, god awful

plain siren
# sour willow We had 2 routers in a row 🤣

And fun fact: the trick here wouldve been to hook the LAN from first Router to LAN to second router (if it was a Wi-Fi Router) which wouldve made the second Wi-Fi Router only function as a Switch + Wi-Fi AP with no Routing Functionality avoiding the Double NAT/Triple NAT

peak cloak
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I only have 2 ports to my room which is fine for most cases, but if I ever needed more I could try that

plain siren
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I cant even lie, after yoinking some AT&T AIO's once I ripped the Authentication Certs off them to bypass, Ive found they make damn good Switches and VoIP ATAs

plain siren
peak cloak
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Found it

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It's a wrt160n v2

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I remember I wanted to get a 3rd party software on it and it has too little space

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So that was one of my main reasons to get the er-x

plain siren
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So it may be worth checking to see if its just the overlay partitions space being only what the OS currently is instead of a "real" size

low pond
plain siren
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This is called "Immutable Install"

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Its a way to protect the system from being modified permanently from its desired state

plain siren
peak cloak
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plain siren
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A fun project would be to see if its an easily replaceable flash chip and sticking a bigger on in its place

low pond
peak cloak
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I never soldered anything on a computer PCB

plain siren
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No time like the PresentMonkey

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🥁

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tss

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Honestly, its pretty easy

peak cloak
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I've watched Louis Rossman

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Like ik in theory how to do it

plain siren
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easier than trying to solder a wire to a pad tbh

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Although if its a SMD thats using some shit like a ball grid, ugh

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But those chips with like the pins coming off the side like you would see on a BIOS Chip on your PC... EZ

peak cloak
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Yeah

plain siren
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Which I presume is what it is

peak cloak
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I'd have to look at the PCB

heady brook
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Can I replace this cable with this other one and have it work properly? I think so but I'd rather be completely sure than unsure

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If anyone knows feel free to help, thanks

peak cloak
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but also why

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why do you need a new cable

heady brook
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I just needed it to be slightly longer to fit in a room that was next door to where it currently reaches, but i don't need to do this anymore thankfully

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Tag: @peak cloak

peak cloak
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Instead of getting a long cable from the box

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Just extend it

ember grove
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So I want to build a Proxmox server with low power consumption but it's driving me crazy 'cause I don't know what kind of hardware to buy without spending to much...
Can anyone help me out here? Preferably a 1U/2U chassis.

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And also since I'm European I don't wanna spend a lot in shipment fees.

undone basin
ember grove
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I don't wanna spend more then 400-500€.

peak cloak
ember grove
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Virtualisation, mainly for test purposes.

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And other stuff like websites, hosting Discord bots, game servers and I'm thinking on having VoIP servers as well.

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Just random stuff that will come up to my head better saying.

peak cloak
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but it you want longevity you would want a custom build

ember grove
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That's I'm trying to do.

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Like I said it's to mount on a rack.

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Sad.

peak cloak
ember grove
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Yeah.

peak cloak
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ah nice

ember grove
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One 42U, two 27U and one 25U.

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Btw this new server it's to be mount on the 42U.

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Got it recently for only 50€.

peak cloak
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it's funny, larger racks are usually cheaper

ember grove
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It doesn't have the laterals but it came with PSU, a CPU switcher and some patch panels.

ember grove
ember grove
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No.

peak cloak
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because no one wants the huge ones

undone basin
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Buy it

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Now

lean pollen
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SWAGs update caused my NAS to stop working today
Fixed it

idle idol
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With vlans. And trying to get the most throughput.. is it better to use a lacp set up as a trunk or to do port based vlans to a switch?

waxen scroll
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i havent seen a network yet that does vlan based load balancing

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its all LACP or they use active/standby uplinks that meet the bandwidth needs

peak cloak
waxen scroll
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@peak cloak vlan load balancing is mostly book theory. you can do it, but I dont know anyone who does

idle idol
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It would all be going to a 24 port Cisco switch. But noore than 3-4 vlans.

I can do the same thing with a dual link lacp and just tag it as a trunk with etherchannels

waxen scroll
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@peak cloak you make core switch A root for whatever vlans and core B root for the others

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tadah, load balancing

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now a days most people use VPC, VSS, or MLAG with LACPs

idle idol
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Those are terms I've heard of but never researched. Heads to duckduckgo

rocky badge
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@waxen scroll @clear igloo I need to deploy a router at a site I don’t want to be married to 😩

waxen scroll
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whats there to be married to. do a netgear and run away

clear igloo
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I was going to say tp-link and hide 😛

waxen scroll
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yep

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they have a 1-800 number

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Yeah… lol

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/s

waxen scroll
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well thank dooley-sama that all the mikrotik lovers are banned

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this is UBNT chat now

clear igloo
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Buy a cloud managed router and manage from THE CLOUD!!

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Tbh

waxen scroll
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so a cradlepoint

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That would be super nice

waxen scroll
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old company had 100s of them and it was cloud managed

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Meraki would be out of budget

clear igloo
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Meraki Go or Aruba equivalent are actually cheap

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Because business internet isn’t gpon

clear igloo
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They are like -lite/small business versions of their enterprise counterparts without any constant license stuff

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Yeah

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Meraki go router/fw would be fine

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WAN is only 100/100

waxen scroll
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@clear igloo So last time my phone number was listed on my resume was like.... 2014. I get a voice message this week from a recruiter.... "I have your resume here and you would be great for a consumer network support job I have..."

Me: Thonk
Me after I realize some idiot is using resumes as far back as 2014: KEKW

clear igloo
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KEKW That's some great resume

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Lmao

waxen scroll
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Also this is why to never put your phone on a resume unless you submitted it directly to a company yourself.

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clear igloo
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Is admin fee the price or an added fee?

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Price

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As long as you can prove 501c3

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Which this site is

waxen scroll
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huh. i need to make a 501c3 for my home lab

lean pebble
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Hey someone knows how to configure iscsi share from truenas on VMware esxi and ovirt?

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@clear igloo

clear igloo
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The 1100s aren't bad but of course no cloud management either

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Yeah

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We’re finally getting this site setup with M365 for nonprofits

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But probably keeping email and docs on Google Workspace

hollow marlin
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I asked my juniper shill friend lol

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but he said don't bother if I don't wanna be married to it lol

hollow marlin
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Non-sense!!

waxen scroll
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no vlans either

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one flat network

burnt epoch
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Anyone know any good WiFi 6 WIRELESS ACCESS POINTS for relatively cheap?
[@ or reply so I can get notified of response]

peak cloak
burnt epoch
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Hmmm

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I just looked it up. Might be a bit over budget ngl

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Because I need to buy two of them

peak cloak
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do you need wifi 6?

burnt epoch
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That is unless..........

Is it possible to turn Google Wifi points (what I currently use, but using Ethernet) into regular ol WAPs in conjunction with a different router?

burnt epoch
peak cloak
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I have fios, I use my own setup

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ubiquiti has a wifi 6 ap for 100 bucks

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Access Point U6 Lite

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idk how good it is

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peak cloak
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don't think so

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@rocky badge ?

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You may need to host a controller

burnt epoch
peak cloak
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or use the cloud key which acts like the controller I think

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idk this unifi stuff, I just have one unifi device which is a switch

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undone basin
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you can use stand alone but ubiquiti said that they might require you with their next gen aps

burnt epoch
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Because here's the situation I'm in to be more detailed for anyone in the server that can provide some insight:

Currently I am a Spectrum customer using 3 Google WiFi points as a routing and WiFi solution. However, I don't use it the advertised way where the points communicate to each other wirelessly; my house is wired for networking. I set up the primary point in my boiler room, which is where my patch panels are located, connect the Ethernet cable from it's ONE LAN port to my network switch, and have some of the ports connect to my Ethernet patch panel. This allows me to use some devices completely wired but it also allows me to connect the other 2 points using Ethernet (so long as they are near network wall jacks). It's nice because I have one network that provides decent (not perfect) wireless coverage in my house.

However, we might want to switch to FIOS, and the Gigabit plan gives you their (frankly really nice) WiFi 6 router. But then I asked myself the question as to what am I going to do about the other 2 points?

tender hazel
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I don't know enough about google wifi

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how does it work exactly? the primary one is a controller for the other two?

tender hazel
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you are getting rid of the primary one and replacing it with a wifi6 router?

burnt epoch
tender hazel
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if I understand that correctly, what is stopping you from making one of the remaining two the primary?

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if you are going down from three to two, removing the primary, it seems to me that you would just make one of the remaining two the primary instead

burnt epoch
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The Google WiFi points communicate with the primary point (which acts as the network's router) through the Google Home application. Everything is set up through there

tender hazel
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the primary one acts as a router?

burnt epoch
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The question I was asking myself is if I can just use them as sort of 'dumb' access points in conjunction with a completely different router

burnt epoch
tender hazel
burnt epoch
tender hazel
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you would put one of the two remaining Google Wifi units that acts as a primary in bridge mode

tender hazel
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so that is the solution

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yes, that is correct

burnt epoch
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But not wireless access points

tender hazel
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a wireless access point is the wireless equivalent of a switch though

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a switch connects wired devices on layer 2 without routing, a wireless access point connects wireless devices on layer 2 without routing

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a switch and a wireless access point do the same thing, the only distinction is whether the connections are wired vs wireless

tender hazel
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both connect the network on a layer 2 level

burnt epoch
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The question is if Google even allows this to begin with

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Wirelessly

tender hazel
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so enabling bridge mode on a wireless device would turn it from a wireless router into a wireless access point

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yes they do

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it says so on the page that I gave you the link to

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"Enable bridge mode on your Google Nest Wifi router or primary Wifi point (Not recommended)"

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that's what you have to do

burnt epoch
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I'm guessing it also explains it here:

tender hazel
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yes, exactly

burnt epoch
tender hazel
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double NAT will cause a lot of problems in this case especially if both are on the same SSID

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you just have to put the google wifi into bridge mode and they will still work fine as access points

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your devices will roam between the ISP provided wifi6 router and google wifi as they wish, the devices will make the roaming decision in this case

burnt epoch
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And hey I guess I don't HAVE to have a working system immediately. Like say it turns out to have stability issues, I can sell my Google WiFi later.

tender hazel
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you shouldn't have stability issues

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if you can put the google wifi in bridge mode like that page says, they become as you want, dumb access points

burnt epoch
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But what's this then:? Are they just over exaggerating it:

tender hazel
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it should work just fine

tender hazel
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if you put your google wifi in bridge mode you won't have double NAT.. if it is not in bridge mode, you will have double NAT

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double NAT is not necessarily the end of the world if the only wifi you have is the google wifi, or if your google wifi is on a different SSID than your regular wifi

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but I assume you want to use the same SSID for both your new router and the google stuff

burnt epoch
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tender hazel
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right

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so here is how it works.. when you connect your phone to a wifi network SSID with a certain name like MyGreatNetwork, it assumes any access point with that same SSID is bridged and on the same subnet as the others with that SSID

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so it knows it can roam freely to other APs with that SSID without having to ask for a new IP or whatever

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but suppose you actually connect up a wireless router behind your main router, but set the SSID the same as your main router - this causes a problem

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if you have a wireless router behind your main router, they will have to be on different subnets by necessity, different IP ranges

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your phone may be connected to the main router and get an IP from it.. then you go closer to the wireless router, and your phone sees the SSID name is the same and decides to hop on it because it has a stronger signal.. the phone also makes the assumption that it is the same subnet as the main router (bridged to the main router) so it doesn't ask for a new IP

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but the old IP no longer works, because it is actually not the same subnet, and the phone won't ask for a new IP.. so you will be connected to wireless but the internet just won't work unless you reboot the phone or disconnect it from the wifi and reconnect it to the wifi, which would get really annoying if you had to do that all the time while walking to different parts of your house

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that's why you have to put the google APs in bridge mode

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if they have the same SSID as the main router, they have to be on the same subnet as the main router

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and have to be bridged to the main router

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the only way that you could keep the google wifi in router mode is if you made the SSID different from your main wifi6 router but then the roaming would be manually controlled instead of your device automatically choosing the ap that was closest to it

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but if you put the google wifi into bridge mode, the problem is solved

burnt epoch
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@tender hazel Thank you so much for clarifying the specifics and helping me out man. You're a real one 👍🏻

tender hazel
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no problem

hot hawk
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Ok in rn stumped
My network for some reason decided to crap out, and after some troubleshooting I am pretty sure it's my router having issues
But can't find a fix, even after a factory reset
My router is a rax10-100nas

twin tartan
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hello anyone here that can help me please

stark rune
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Probably a dumb question I know but if I just have a bare bones all in one router from my isp would buying a aftermarket router improve my internet when running through cable?

past lantern
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Hi, am i able to ask Network questions on here or is this mainly just general network chat?

west acorn
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Hey. I've been having an issue with my PC for a few days now and anything that people are suggesting doesn't work and I get the same error. I'm getting code 0x80070079 when I try to move files from one place to another. Any ideas on how I can sort this?

(Asking this in here because the code is to do with my network adapters - They are up to date too.)

thick minnow
past lantern
# thick minnow You can ask, tho I (personally) may not be able to help

It’s worth a shot I guess. Currently, any multiplayer game I play has me disconnected from matches. The games are a variety from EA, to steamed and some that run off their own client. My network seems to be fine as I’m still able to download stuff, watch YouTube, etc. it’s been like this since midday Saturday and I’ve tried everything I can and I’m not sure what to do anymore

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I’ve reset my router, modem, network settings, restart my pc, made sure all drivers were updated, updated bios, and ran ping tests and everything seems to be fine, but no matter what I do, I still get disconnected from matches. So far it hasn’t affected discord(it was yesterday but all of today seems good, and I’m currently stuck on what else to do

low pond
lean pebble
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Here we go again 😂 whops I fucked up my server network

low pond
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Idiot

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😆

waxen scroll
peak cloak
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that's a really beefy connector

hollow marlin
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@clear igloo Ugh I hate the onmicrosoft.com domain the person who signed up for M365 chose 😩

low pond
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god M$ BS is bs

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my father was dealing with some RDWeb BS and stuff

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and its so buggy

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m$

sharp patrol
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My laptops wifi keeps lagging and disconnecting from it, sometimes it runs fine then suddenly it spikes up and dc's any help?

trim valley
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have you dropped it or anything?

sharp patrol
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um no

trim valley
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since the thing that connects to the internet can have some problems

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i have it on my older laptop

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sometimes it works, sometimes doesnt

sharp patrol
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i cleaned it recently

trim valley
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also does it happen on your phone?

sharp patrol
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so idk if i mightve touched something and no it doesnt happen on my phone

trim valley
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then its the computer wifi thingy problem

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you need to replace it or idk

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this advice is just from my experience

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tbh idk if you can even replace it

sharp patrol
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um does an ethernet cable do something about it?

trim valley
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yes it fixes the problem

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for me atleast

peak cloak
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can only guess if you don't have logs

sharp patrol
peak cloak
thick minnow
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Is there any point in getting 10/40/100 gig internet

hollow marlin
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Data centers and service providers, all else, no

thick minnow
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Not even 10 gig even tho I somehow use 2tb per month with 55mbps

peak cloak
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one link won't saturate it

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you need lots of devices

thick minnow
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bottleneck Telstra??

feral pine
thick minnow
feral pine
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well in that is another use case

lethal marlin
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if you live in australia like it seems you do, 10 gig is absurdly expensive and only selected areas can get it, its not worth it

peak cloak
thick minnow
hollow marlin
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You're not going to ddos a SP

peak cloak
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yeah

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especially if it originates from the same ip

feral pine
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dynamic == multiple ips...

peak cloak
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no

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not at the same time

peak cloak
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v4 addresses are $$$

lethal marlin
thick minnow
peak cloak
lethal marlin
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what do you do that requires 10 gig internet lol?

peak cloak
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you prob only utilize it like 1-5% of the time

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no single person needs 10 gig

thick minnow
peak cloak
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ah yes

lethal marlin
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also ill say it here as well, be aware of rule 11, your name may get changed

peak cloak
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linux isos

thick minnow
lethal marlin
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then upgrade to 250mbps

thick minnow
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No fiber because hills

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Plus nbn don’t want me to use more than 2tb a month

lethal marlin
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then you cant get anything above 100mbps anyway why are you asking

thick minnow
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I can’t get 100 tho

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I’m 4503km away from the node

lethal marlin
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so youre on skymuster?

thick minnow
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no nbn just forgets about my suburb

thick minnow
# lethal marlin ???

Nobody has fiber where I live and everyone is so old they probably won’t need over 20mbps

lethal marlin
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you said "NBN"

thick minnow
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So I’m basically the only person in my suburb who is using that much internet

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Yes I am sus

lethal marlin
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are you on nbn or not?

thick minnow
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Yes

lethal marlin
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what connection type do you have?

thick minnow
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Otherwise I’d be on dial up

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Brruh copper

lethal marlin
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so FTTN?

hollow marlin
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He's on VDSL

lethal marlin
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its the nbn

thick minnow
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That node is basically a km away from me

lethal marlin
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so you can theoretically get NBN100 plans and no higher

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unless you pay to upgrade to FTTP

thick minnow
lethal marlin
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yes thats how it works

thick minnow
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Way too far away from the node

lethal marlin
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you can get the plans

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why are you asking about 10 gigabit?

thick minnow
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Wasting money because it won’t work

lethal marlin
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well youre not on NBN50, you must be on NBN100 already right?

thick minnow
lethal marlin
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you shouldnt

thick minnow
hollow marlin
lethal marlin
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its a shit system and everyone knows that

thick minnow
lethal marlin
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then move

thick minnow
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Someone give me a green card so I can live in the states just anywhere except this hellhole

lethal marlin
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go to new zealand

thick minnow
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Kiwis

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I’d rather have the illusion of a constitutionally protected right than a right that can be revoked at any time by the government plus I think we shouldn’t be talking about politics in networking… even tho we are all getting spied on 😵‍💫

ivory egret
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I have a 208GB file to copy to at least 50 computers on my network. What is the quickest way to do this?

lean pebble
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Share folder between them

low pond
idle idol
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So.. I'm debating something.. I just ordered lc lc fiber om3 for some transceivers that haven't had a dust cover on them in a year.. they are most likely fubar at this point right?

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I'm starting to think it's best that I just use a lacp between router and switch instead of this unknown fiber

hollow marlin
idle idol
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I'm changing out my entire network backbone. From a wrt3200acm to a Mikrotik RB4011. From a TPLink 16port managed switch to a Cisco Catalyst 3560-e. And a fiber connect between the two.

The only thing left is to change the Cisco out with a x2 transceiver for 10g back to the router

ripe wing
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Greetings does anyone knows if the unifi dream machine can bundle 2 different lines?

peak cloak
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because somehow it's made so the LAN ports can't be configured to be WAN

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I would expect to be able to, but I guess not

idle idol
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Another reason I chose mikrotik over unifi 🙂

peak cloak
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UDM: has only a single WAN uplink port so Failover is supported only when using U-LTE

ripe wing
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I'm looking at the pro, to be fair

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It seems that it has fail over but not bundling

peak cloak
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if you want the best bang for your buck unifi isn't the best

ripe wing
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Since I'll have wireless link between my place and the provider (because reasons, if it will be super unreliable fttc could be an option but with the cabin at 500mt plus it is expected to go at max at 20 mbit...) i was considering getting a cheap lte modem to use as backup

ripe wing
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I’ve got two connections on my UDMP and failover is pretty quick

peak cloak
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I only get a couple of packet loss, since it’s an active failover

ripe wing
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Smart home hub

peak cloak
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I'm not really into that smart home stuff

peak cloak
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I want to DIY smart homing the garage tho

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home assistant seems cool

ripe wing
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Also early tests with the antenna on the roof peaked at a whooping 12 mbit down and 2 up, so having something more reliable attached would be neat

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Interfaces

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Yesterday when I was moving stuff around in the basement

ripe wing
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Very nice indeed

hollow marlin
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I mean, this is just home lol

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AA failover?

hollow marlin
# peak cloak just how hard is that to do?

BFD, BGP multipath are the simplest ways. The problem is when you start lowering the BFD timers low enough it can trigger false positives, especially when the customers use underpowered hardware

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Most the time though many customers don't understand why their failover kills active connections when not using BGP. 2 IPs and NAT mean the egress traffic now has a new IP so any existing connection has to be reset. Thats by BGP and ASN is a requirement if you want proper failover.

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Doesn't matter for 99% of cases but this is especially important with voip as if its not setup that way, all calls will drop. All other day to day traffic is not really that big of an issue

feral pine
feral pine
peak cloak
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I did some research and would uftp work?

frigid pine
feral pine
feral pine
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the power is that you can do with HA whatever you want, and code plugins to it is very easy

peak cloak
feral pine
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some arduinos and some relays... and you can do many things... jejeje

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i control every light and the electric moto charger

peak cloak
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ye

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I have an arduino and ethernet shield

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just need time to get controlling something

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like 3 years ago I made something similar, but the arduino ran a webpage

ivory egret
feral pine
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uff i think that in this case multicas is useless

peak cloak
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switches don't route, same l2 domain

feral pine
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yes, but multicast depends a lot of the switches... many of them if are in another place phisical dont reply the multicast

peak cloak
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forgot about that

feral pine
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sometimes you need a igmp proxy

thick minnow
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How can I add something like that to my website?

waxen scroll
rocky badge
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😂

peak cloak
thick minnow
peak cloak
thick minnow
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yes

thick minnow
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but this embed info will be on all embed systems right?

peak cloak
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Idk, maybe. Idk anything about the og tag

thick minnow
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like if i will embed that to a wordpres or something like that

thick minnow
lean pebble
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Anyone know how to backup vms on VMware esxi and save the backup on external NFS ?

paper valve
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Ovf/ova?

lean pebble
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I need it to be automatically and push it to my nfs

valid bough
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I gotta ask a really dumb question i already know the answer to prob but yeah.

Builtin local groups, when we are talking LOCAL within Active Directory, is that the specific machine, or all the machines in said network (not domain)?

paper valve
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on the machine iirc

valid bough
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So what is a point making a local group for example a specific department in a company (say import and purchase dep), if it's locked to just one computer? Or is it if the said company only has 1 computer with multiple logins? then having AD seems redundant in the first place

idle idol
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So possibly a very stupid question.. but I'm curious.. has anyone ever bought a small block of IP address (5 or so) and had their ISP use them before?

peak cloak
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Wdym, by had their isp use them before

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@idle idol

idle idol
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Had their ISP assign them to their modem

peak cloak
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Ik people who have a block of ips

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I have a /48 of ipv6

idle idol
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How do you use them? My ISP wants 75$ a month extra for a static IP address. I figure by the time I pay that for 6 months I could afford a small block

peak cloak
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So instead of NATing everything

rocky badge
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Usually the ISP routes the IPs either to a private IP range and 1:1 NAT or gives you information for static IP setup

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Varies from ISP to ISP

peak cloak
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You can assign internal devices on a different subnet (I would use vlans to achieve this) to have public ips, instead of nated ones

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Your average home router is not able to do that

idle idol
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I'm getting a rb4011 mikrotik today. I'd assume with some configuration it should be able to?

peak cloak
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Yeah routeros is powerful

idle idol
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This is just research for me right now. Just curious if it's even possible for my setup

peak cloak
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Yeah it'll be possible

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@clear igloo I need a Mac 👀

clear igloo
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ewwww

rocky badge
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So I can enroll some iPads into our MDM in supervised mode

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👀

clear igloo
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lol

rocky badge
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you can't use a G Suite account to sign up for Managed Google Play

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???

waxen scroll
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no, i'm not aware of an ISP allowing the customers own IPs unless you buy DIA

lean pebble
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But some companies block some services from being used from gsuite admin.
You can decide what services to allow and what services to block.

low pond
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Can block some or open, have strict security that allows Outlook only from the client and not online webversion of it... etc

lean pebble
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Sucks

low pond
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O365 doesn't suck that much

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I mean sure it's a M$ product but eh, it's pretty alright NGL

lean pebble
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I never used outlook I don't like office 😅

low pond
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is it reffered to as CRM software? (o365)

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Huh...

low pond
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is quite feature rich...

lean pebble
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Yeah I agree they added alot of features to it and amazing how much features they could include into it.
I just don't like office itself I prefer google docs or libreoffice

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They did only one thing with teams.
They excluded it from the office suite itself and made Linux version without needing to install all office bs

gentle garden
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Good morning, I was hoping I could get some assistance with a network issue. I ahve a desktop, a laptop, Brother printer, and a home routher. Everything is wireless. Currently the desktop can print and ping the printer, but the laptop cannot see or print to the Brother. I have checked the network settings on both machines. Both are connected to the proper network, have matching subnets, and DNS. Any thoughts?

rocky hawk
reef adder
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Just finished an AC replacement in this telecom closet

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This is at a university dorm building

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They've got network and cable TV stuff in here

peak cloak
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no school right? so it could be down?

reef adder
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Everything sounds like it's running

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There's fans running

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The students move back in in a couple of weeks

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The fans were definitely running pretty hard when we had the AC offline for replacement

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It's cool in there now

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I think they may have had landline phone service in here when the place was originally built in the early 2000s

formal steppe
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guys i have a problem where my shitbox of a pc has a wifi dongle and it cant get the wifi so fast as it should

lone sun
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😕 SIGH...can someone tell why my damn ethernet is causing my device manager to constantly refresh? I know its my ethernet cable causing it because it stops when I unplug it. Thought I fixed this shit for good, and now it suddenly came right the hell back, out of the blue. Tired of this shit man. 🙄...Its causing stuttering in some of my games.

plain siren
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It may not be the cable, it could be a driver issue with said Ethernet Nic, A problematic link between Switch/Router <> PC, or overall just a generic incompatability

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Rollback your driver

lone sun
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😒 Was fine for months, and now it wants to start this shit again.

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@plain siren 🧐 Actually I see they fairly recently released some new drivers for my motherboard. I'll try those and see what happens.

sly wadi
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Random question - I have a laptop without a DVD drive and a server/NAS with a DVD drive that I use for DVDs. Would it be possible to somehow mount the server's DVD drive over the network and use its burning functions from another device? All of my devices run Linux

peak cloak
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Oh burning

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Hmm, probably

sly wadi
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Ye, I can't just use Samba or NFS because burning...

peak cloak
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First answer?

sly wadi
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sigh why did I not see that?

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Also the person asking uses Gentoo xD

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I'll try that out and see if it works

lone sun
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@plain siren 🙂 Looks like I fixed it...dude on the forum suggested turning off Network Discovery, and it worked!!! Hope I never see that shit ever again. 🤞

orchid anvil
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I know some older macs with a cd/dvd drive can do dvd sharing like one Mac can access the optical drive of the Mac with the drive in it

crisp bay
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uhh so I installed php latest and well installed apache...I have nginx already so I autoremoved apache and it still shows me signs of it (error because nginx's using 80/443 alrd)..any idea to totally remove it?

amber yarrow
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Asus got their ROG gamer brand on everything, huh

feral pine
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or uninstall it

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i see that's alredy masked...

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ahh or you're seeing old logs from journal

frigid pine
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I have about 3000 Mikrotik routers, does anyone knows a way to find the speeds of their running interfaces through a script?

lean pebble
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With easy2boot you don't need to burn the iso you just install this little system on pen drive and drop your iso to the iso folder and that's all

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I'm using it for the last 4 years

plain siren
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Much less intensive than E2B and has about the same level extensibility

lean pebble
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Easy2boot have alot of features that I never used haha

plain siren
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Yeah Ventoy is Click and Go and much more consumable

lean pebble
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Easy2boot to

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Click and go

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At least mine

plain siren
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Well... minus its whole... Whack old age iODD File Layout and mix mash of Grub4Dos, Grub 2, GrubFM, Clover, and Ventoy all together

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I dont ever boot on legacy systems anymore so UEFI only works out

lean pebble
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The only thing I don't like in it is I need to do contiguous on every new iso 🧐

plain siren
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Yeah that is also a nice non-need anymore

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Also... then there is this

lean pebble
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Nice phone

plain siren
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Its a flash drive

lean pebble
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😆

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Don't look like flash drive

plain siren
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Can mount 1 ISO (Mounts as BD-ROM to PC) + 3 VHD's

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It has a M.2 SATA SSD in it

lean pebble
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Oh nice

plain siren
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Drag and drop ISO's, select on screen, bang

lean pebble
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I have SanDisk extreme pro and go, ssd powered to my extreme go has easy2boot on it

plain siren
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if you change a ISO to IMG itll mount as an actual floppy to PC too which is funny af

lean pebble
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Haha nice sounds fun to play with

plain siren
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I got about 1000 ISOs on mine

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Its actually my #1 Handy Tool in my IT Tool Bag

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otherwise I just boot to the PXE server over net

lean pebble
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I think easy2boot can act as pxe server

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At the beginning I was traveling with my laptop that has a little pxe server in vm on it

plain siren
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its got ability to add into it a pxemini thing but in reality e2b is just compilation of tools/BL's in a config designed to work together

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What I personally did was add Ventoy to a VHD, then Grub4Dos, then GrubFM, etc all seperate VHD's and mount those off the iODD as needed if needed

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Its honestly a nice comedown after years of E2B's clunky array of batch files and scripts

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Then again, E2B aint even E2B anymore its kinda a GrubFM installer now heh

lean pebble
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Hehe I never updating easy2boot I still have old version of it

rose sparrow
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Hey! I just changed my ISP and they provided me with a ONU which has only 2.4GHz band. I already have a TP-Link Archer c6. Now the issue is I just wanted to bridge the PPPoE to TP-Link. What can I do?

plain siren
rose sparrow
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I have these options on the ONU, so if I put one of the ports on bridge mode and then connect it to my tplink router and then initiate a PPPoE session from tplink, will it work

plain siren
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Bridge mode will just do IP Forwarding/Traffic Forwarding
No need for PPPoE since the authentication is handled already by the ONT

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However, How do you know its PPPoE?

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Fiber ONTs are typically 802.1X EAP to the Radius Server on ISP's Side

rose sparrow
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By this

plain siren
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TR-069
I wish all ISps made this shit that obvious

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VOIP
You got a landline on this thing?

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And wow they even list the PPPoE Endpoint which is an ASR Gateway.... damn thats most transparent ive seen yet out the door

rose sparrow
plain siren
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Easy way to find out if you have one: Call out ehhehee

rose sparrow
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So if I do a bridge then will i be able to bypass the ONT?

frigid pine
plain siren
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Naw but all you should need is Bridge Mode and what the curiosity is:
Does it do a TRUE BRIDGE or is it 1:1 NAT, because if the ONU still does "Routing" you would wanna put the TPLink LAN (not WAN) into the ONU's LAN

rose sparrow
frigid pine
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how much increase is there?

rose sparrow
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2ms

plain siren
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pfft

frigid pine
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would this bother you in any way?

plain siren
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Does that ONU have DHCP Still running on it after enabling Bridge?

rose sparrow
plain siren
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If so, you can defer routing to the ONU by attaching to TP-Links LAN port and setting the TP-Link router to a Static IP

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And avoid the whole double NAT bs

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TP-Link Router would just be TP-Link AP

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forgoing the use of the WAN port

rose sparrow
rose sparrow
plain siren
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Well if DHCP is still running on the ONU that means its still got its "Routing" functionality on

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So it didnt defer it to the Bridge entirely but instead did 1:1

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and that would result in cascading routers

frigid pine
plain siren
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but you can have the TP link just be a Wi-Fi AP with 0 Routing Functionality

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And let the ONU still do all the routing

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as such that 2ms would prob drop to 0

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since thats about what additional routing logic would cost

rose sparrow
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So if i turn of the DHCP and NAT manually on the ONU and the do the bridge, will that work?

plain siren
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No no, just plug the TP-Link into ONU through its LAN port

rose sparrow
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Like there's some VLAN situation also going on

plain siren
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Ah you got VLANs setup?

rose sparrow
plain siren
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Or are you talking the ISP because yeah itll run VOIP over VLAN

rose sparrow
plain siren
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VOIP is over a VLAN

frigid pine
rose sparrow
plain siren
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Honestly wanna avoid cascading routers anyways, Double NAT (And especially if CGNAT is being used @ ISP) will cause nothing but heartache later on if you get to doing shit like exposing stuff or P2P Tunnels

rose sparrow
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If i do this -- I should be using the wan port of the tplink right?

plain siren
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Oh cool lookie there

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Yes.

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How nice

rose sparrow
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Thanks

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it did improve

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here are the old and new traceroute results. Thanks btw

plain siren
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ay np

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JIO

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I know this ISP...

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They got them Android Box TV's too

rose sparrow
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Yup

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But that's not my isp

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IG my ISP is using their backbone

plain siren
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Reselling

frigid pine
plain siren
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Yeah, I got a box with their firmware on it that I cant read LOL

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I had the login defaults to the Jio gateways too 😦 we couldve done some fun stuff if it was their equip

rose sparrow
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Any idea why there's a double hop on 172.16.16.11

frigid pine
plain siren
rose sparrow
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@frigid pine which gateway?

frigid pine
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157.....

rose sparrow
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Sure

plain siren
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Prob some transparent bridge being used to monitor traffic...

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and it right after jio's IX Gateway which makes me guess that isnt there for "privacy" reasons since it appears to be in the DC

rose sparrow
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@frigid pine seems fine

frigid pine
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monitor with a -t

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in your trace it was showing 4ms, 10ms, 4ms

rose sparrow
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A few hiccups here and there. Rest seems fine ig

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I guess that has something to do with GPON technology. I don't know much about fiber but afik each onu waits for it's turn to speek if I am not wrong

jaunty talon
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Without reading up too much, what's the issue? :)

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Unstable ping?

plain siren
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However, the spikes are prob just ARP Cache Flush Timers

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Typical of any gateway/route primary device

rose sparrow
rose sparrow
plain siren
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Nope, wouldnt affect normal traffic either, ICMP Ping is more "abrasive" to revealing such things

jaunty talon
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Pinging a IP address on a router is not a good way to troubleshoot, as most routers has limiters on ICMP in order to protect the routing engine

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Which means QoS is applied on ICMP (and other traffic) when going against a IP on the router

plain siren
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He was just grabbing latency

jaunty talon
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That way latency may fluctuate when pinging a router

plain siren
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But his ISP appears to be using a bog standard ONT with the default motorola software almost entirely unmodified, (which really isnt great but), so I am willing to put money on the fact there is prob almost fuck-all for proper IPTables-like filter rules that should prob be there

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I bet the telnet is even open too lol

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Wish every ISP was willing to be outright as transparent as these guys are tho

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be it laziness or no-care

rose sparrow
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And they didn't even bother hiding the SSH of their ASR

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no, now its hidden

plain siren
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I got a github link that wouldve prob pwnt that

rose sparrow
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ASR=CISCO?

rose sparrow
low pond
low pond
crisp bay
crisp bay
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tried then removing it, shows no sign of apache

frigid pine
rose sparrow
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This is the situation going inside my house. You can see that fiber is directly coming from the wall and then getting converted to a patch cable which goes inside the ONU and after that I can plug in my router in any of the rj45 ports in the house

rose sparrow
green jewel
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Does anybody have any experience in flashing Cisco phones from SIP to SCCP? Could do with a bit of help

topaz mirage
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Hello

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I have NFS and SMB share from my Linux NAS.

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Is there some good software for managing the files?

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Best if it had hardlink with few clicks. I'm sick off typing cp -alr [source] [destination].

plain siren
topaz mirage
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How can filesystem help me?

plain siren
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And it has the LVM structure to it making management of file shares much easier.

topaz mirage
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I already have these shares...I dont see a point in ZFS

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I just need an easier way of hardlinking and managing it. I dont have a way to shuffle it to another filesystem anyway

plain siren
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Because honestly when I hear the word NAS I shouldn't really be hearing the words hard linking and managing in the same sentence

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And when using said file systems, you mount them where you intend to use them, not mount to arbitrary location then hardlink to it

small glade
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is there any chance of 802.11ah (900mhz halow) making its way to consumer routers and devices not just iot things and barely existing outside of on paper? throughput seems like it would be good enough for some general internet use. rural/countryside areas with non usable cell signals seem to come to mind. having like a starlink connection with 2.4/5ghz indoors/close to the house and a 900mhz not too fast but fast enough for some things wifi network that covers a good bit of your property could be a potential use.

static owl
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Does anyone know if there's a translated version of the router Xiaomi AX9000 firmware?

twin zealot
idle idol
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What would cause loss of ipv4 connectivity while leaving v6 working fine>

topaz mirage
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Plus ZFS isnt compatible with some things Im using

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And I said --> I dont have a way to shuffle it to another filesystem anyway
So why doubling down on that idea?

low pond
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What do you even exactly wanna do