networking

[copper rover]

So, Starlink could be what lowers Internet rates

[peak cloak]

Along with oneweb

And kupier

[copper rover]

You know though, @versed nebula touched on something. Big Corporate has major leverage over governance. I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast, ATT, and Verizon grease some palms to ground Starlink. History is rife with such dirty corruption

Hope that doesn't happen, but wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it does.

[peak cloak]

Visasat already tried to slow starlink

Environmental complains or something like that

[copper rover]

Visasat was probably a unified front by the other ISPs

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-viasat-cant-compete-fcc/

This is why it's hard to have nice things sigh

[tender hazel]

if you can get a reasonable service via some land-based ISP, you shouldn't turn to Starlink

some users are starting to turn to Starlink because they can get a good service from their traditional ISP but don't like them and choose Starlink instead

that ends up slowing things down for the users who have to use Starlink to get a reasonable service

save the bandwidth for the people who need it.. if you can get 25Mbps or greater from whatever your local cable company or telco is, don't hop on Starlink for no good reason (hating your cable company or telco is not a good reason)

in Canada, Starlink is getting overloaded because people who have other viable choices are getting Starlink service instead for no good reason, and slowing the service down for those who don't have other viable choices.

Starlink is supposed to be for people who can only get other satellite providers, or paying up the nose for LTE data

[copper rover]

I don't know what the ROI for Elon's Starlink, but if the demand stays strong, he just might launch more sats if that's where the limitation is. But, it's very possible the choke point is in the fiber links to the antenna arrays on the ground; which is easily remedied.

[tender hazel]

at a certain point it makes a lot more sense for people to get service from regular landline ISPs than satellite

they aren't going to launch more satellites if the only reason is that people don't like their local ISP even though they are giving them 25Mbps+

[copper rover]

And they will once prices drop. Hence my earlier comment about competition driving prices down.

So even if you don't want or need Starlink, it has an added benefit in applying market pressure downward.

[tender hazel]

competition is good, but I don't see how starlink is going to drive prices down

people with other good options have to pay 50% more for starlink, or higher

[copper rover]

Because it shatters a monopoly in a region

[tender hazel]

no

if you have to pay twice as much for starlink as you do for something else that is reasonable

[copper rover]

If you have a crappy ISP, and don't have other options, then Starlink is the alternative

[rocky badge]

Starlink isn't going to replace fiber and maybe cable ISPs, its not designed to

its meant to replace Hughes/Viasat & those with 4G/LTE hotspots

That don't have a reliable wired option

[tender hazel]

^ yes

[copper rover]

Monopolies don't have much impetus to offer reliable service. But now they will.

[tender hazel]

exactly

[rocky badge]

if AT&T has a monopoly over an area with their Gigabit fiber service for $70/mo, and lower tiers, I doubt most people will switch to Starlink

[copper rover]

Starlink is the equivalent of Dish Network for broadcast TV entertainment, only for Internet.

[rocky badge]

which has a way higher initial price and higher monthly

[tender hazel]

in our case, we are a monopoly offering wireless internet service, and we are doing the best we can - we aren't worried about starlink so much because our most expensive package is like $60 canadian a month, which is like $40 USD a month or so?

[rocky badge]

$50ish at current rates

[tender hazel]

although our service doesn't offer the same bandwidth as starlink, not our fault, a lot less expensive and we don't charge for overages

and we don't rate limit for overages

people can download as much as they want with no rate limiting

[rocky badge]

Plus, anyone with a reliable stable connection wouldn't notice satellite visibility issues current Starlink customers are, yes I know they are still deploying more satellites but there are still some conditions

[copper rover]

Oh, I'm not saying you're not providing unreasonable services and rates. I'm simply saying that having more competition keeps everyone on their toes to both innovate and increase the quality of services.

[rocky badge]

Yeah, competition is always good, but I don't think Starlink would be "normal" competition imo

because for their targeted demographics/regions, there's not much "fair" competition, Starlink just crushes them

[copper rover]

It doesn't need to be. If StarLink is blasting the media with marketing info about the service, and customer's start asking their ISP about this new alternative...well, they might just offer them more bandwidth and other special deals to keep retention 😉

Disclaimer, I used to work for TimeWarner. I worked on the TSR side, but interfaced a lot with CSRs

[rocky badge]

A lot of people Starlink is targeting are coming from > 1Mbps and < 20Mbps lol

So they're excited to get 100Mbps-200Mbps

[copper rover]

Oh yeah, DSL in the middle of BFE is done

I'm willing to bet that municipalities that relied on Hughes net will also switch over to Starlink too

I know of several people that work in the oil and gas industry on boats and rigs, Starlink...no question about it

[rocky badge]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/29/washington-emergency-responders-use-spacex-starlink-satellite-internet.html

By comparison, Hall emphasized that it took him between five and 10 minutes to set up and connect a Starlink terminal. And a single person can set up one of the devices: “It doesn’t require a truck and a trailer and a whole lot of other additional equipment,” Hall said. 

[copper rover]

Yup. LEOS are nice

Hughes SATCOM is like 500ms round trip. Bandwidth sucks, but the latency is literally limited by the speed of light. When people complain, I can imagine Albert Einstein laughing beyond the grave.

[rocky badge]

i was on hughes for a weekend

1s rtt

yay

[copper rover]

I'm sorry, I feel your pain

No one should have to endure that level of suffering

[rocky badge]

50gb of "bonus data" you can't use lol

because you couldn't download that fast

[copper rover]

Oh yeah

lol

[rocky badge]

hughes

1005ms

391ms jitter

[copper rover]

I have had to assist someone via LogMeIn Rescue over Hughes net. OMG it was PAINFUL

[rocky badge]

this was during a good period

at night

it was horrible

[copper rover]

Yup

[rocky badge]

This was in a cabin shared with like 20 friends lol

soooooo

Verizon was horrible, hughes was horrible

[copper rover]

But soon, that cabin will have a Starlink dish. lol

[rocky badge]

the year before

[copper rover]

Actually...now that I think about it..... I wonder if Verizon will piggy back off that network for remote cellular instead of running fiber?

[rocky badge]

(the screenshots above were 2019)

that pic of a screen was 2018 lol

[copper rover]

Brutal

Should be illegal

Torture is illegal

Human travesty

[rocky badge]

~230Kbps on verizon

[copper rover]

No Netflix for you

[rocky badge]

2020 before covid lockdown 😦 we stayed in a cabin with xfinity

so it was 400Mbps cable

yeet

[copper rover]

That's really good actually.

I've only got 100mbps, but that's because I honestly don't see the need for gigabit.

[rocky badge]

I swear we were like the only ones, or very few people, on the node

[copper rover]

I can get gigabit, just don't want to pay for it

[rocky badge]

it was wayyy up there in the mountains

surprised xfinity even came up there

so much coax in the cabin though lol

every TV had a cable box

[copper rover]

Yeah, I wonder what decision was made to run that buried cable.

[rocky badge]

There was another property that's a part of the cabin??? idk

but it also had its own xfinity service lol

[copper rover]

Depending on population density, or if that will be a developed suburb in the future, that may have been why they built out the infrastructure that way. That, or they were mandated by law to do so???

[rocky badge]

this place sleeped 36...

they planned internet for that much i guess lmao

I'm also surprised they did coax to each TV

instead of using xfinity's iptv boxes

[copper rover]

That's a lot of splitting going on. There is a limit due to dbmv drop on coax each time the signal is split. I'm guessing they had an amplifier in the mix

[rocky badge]

Yeah

17 TVs....

how much is their xfinity bill

[copper rover]

A lot! I've seen residential estates where someone had 12 boxes on their account. At first I thought it was a business hotel account. Nope, someone's home. Guess some of us live larger then others. lol

[rocky badge]

oh god

5.3ksqft

no wonder why the wifi was shit

the only ap in the main property iirc was the xfinity router in the main room

[copper rover]

Right, need more APs for that coverage.

Could do mesh

[rocky badge]

with that much coax could do moca lol

surprised i didn't see any ethernet

[copper rover]

Right, if they ran coax in that building, they could have run Ethernet along with it. But it would have to have been done by different contractors.

[rocky badge]

yea

well if any of the numbers they're claiming (for value/etc of the property)

i would've 100% done ethernet too

[copper rover]

CAT5e or 6 at least

[rocky badge]

according to the fcc

the cabin we had hughes at has xfinity available? lol

[copper rover]

Hughes net is perfect for online gaming

lol

VOIP too

[rocky badge]

[copper rover]

Just member to say "over" when you're done talking

1s delay later...

[rocky badge]

oh god lmao

[copper rover]

I had to look it up, but it take 1,300ms for light / radio to travel between the Earth and Moon. So that's a 2.6 second round-trip

From the sun to earth, 8 minutes.

Light is slow

Or space is vast. Take your pick

[thick minnow]

or Both?

[copper rover]

sure

Earth to Pluto is 5 hours. Jesus!!

[thick minnow]

Imagine ISPs slowing data speed on purpose for interstellar communication

[copper rover]

Message in a bottle effectively

[waxen saddle]

That’s where DTN comes in to play. (Bundle protocol)

[rocky badge]

Earth to Mars is so cool

NASA's deep space network

https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/communications/

When something on mars is catching up to current satellite providers on Earth /s

(in bandwidth anyways)

[copper rover]

I think there's a number of sats around Mars still in use. Elon should throw more that way

[waxen saddle]

NASA’s DTN implementation is still experimental I guess. Otherwise, their communications engineers might be kind of dumb. Direct link to Earth is most inefficient

[copper rover]

I mean, he has no problem chucking a car into space...

[rocky badge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellites_of_Mars

most of the rover -> earth goes through mars relays

because they have larger antennas & have longer durations of transmit

so between them and the rover is fast so they can transmit when the rover can't ig

[copper rover]

Figures

[waxen saddle]

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/heo/scan/engineering/technology/disruption_tolerant_networking

[copper rover]

I wonder if the sat has enough storage to hold all the rover data, then blast it back to earth

[rocky badge]

probably idk

https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/images/

they've already gotten a lot back

[copper rover]

I see a seashell. ..

j/k

made you look

[rocky badge]

o.O https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/videos/?v=474 720p video

That's a 5MB file

[copper rover]

H265?

[rocky badge]

264

[copper rover]

Wonder what kind of communication tech China will be using on theirs

[rocky badge]

wow

that's a pretty high res photo

its a 3MB file....they have loads of these from the rover

comms with the rover are very interesting lol

[copper rover]

There must be a lot of error correction used

I mean..a lot

[rocky badge]

yeah data integrity at this distance lol.....

[copper rover]

Right. That or they keep transmitting it on a loop until they send the command back to stop

Eventually they get all the bits

but IDK

[rocky badge]

It generally takes about 5 to 20 minutes for a radio signal to travel the distance between Mars and Earth, depending on planet positions. Using orbiters to relay messages is beneficial because they are much closer to Perseverance than the Deep Space Network (DSN) antennas on Earth. The mass- and power-constrained rover can achieve high data rates of up to 2 megabits per second on the relatively short-distance relay link to the orbiters overhead. The orbiters then use their much larger antennas and transmitters to relay that data on the long-distance link back to Earth.

UHF antenna 400Mhz 2Mbps

from rover to orbiters

[copper rover]

Not bad. my DSL upload was 768k

Not great. but not bad

[rocky badge]

X-Band high gain 7-8ghz

160/500 bits per second or faster to/from the Deep Space Network's 112-foot-diameter (34-meter-diameter) antennas or at 800/3000 bits per second or faster to/from the Deep Space Network's 230-foot-diameter (70 meter-diameter)

directly from rover to Earth

3000bits/s

[copper rover]

That sucks

3kbs lol

[rocky badge]

X-Band high for Tx, X-Band low for Rx

it can do 10bit/s Rx to 32m diameter or 30bit/s to 70m

[tame carbon]

Meanwhile, comcast users be like: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/takedown-notice.png

[thick minnow]

Is that one for using Ubuntu?

[tame carbon]

yes xD

I've received such emails before

except when torrenting in a datacenter

lot of providers do not like it if you use torrent, regardless of the content

to them, p2p sharing is evil

@thick minnow I've received DMCA takedowns before, and I ignored them :P

Americans think they can police the world

[versed nebula]

Most expensive package at that price? Lol u dont live in Canada or only Saskatchewan with sasktel or thunder bay

[oblique frost]

We do? Hmmm

[tame carbon]

@oblique frost When I get a high-tutin' email saying I am in volation of the US DMCA

I write them back that: US law does not apply here

[thick minnow]

xD

[tame carbon]

and that's that

[oblique frost]

Oh I see

Don't know anything about that so I won't attempt an uniformed comment about it :)

[tame carbon]

@oblique frost its a US copyright law... and where does US law apply? In the USA.

But I am not from the USA, aint that quaint? :D

[oblique frost]

But I wish you luck in fighting it

[tame carbon]

There's no fight

[oblique frost]

Oh ok

[tame carbon]

they can't hold me liable, I am not a US citizen, the content is not hosted on US soil

which means

they can take their DMCA and shove it somewhere else

Its a terribly written and outdated law anyways

[oblique frost]

I'm not a lawyer but that sounds cool to me
*correct, not cool lol

[tame carbon]

Its a copyright law from 1998

very old law

[thick minnow]

All of copyright is basically a mess right now

[tame carbon]

especially on embedded

you buy a phone, but the software is locked down

Good luck repairing it

pretty much all of IoT is cursed with this

because companies scream that they protect their IP, but in reality just want to sell more poorly supported hardware

[oblique frost]

When you a buy an android phone you can root it and do whatever you want with it... if you know how to do it... and at your own risk of course... could lose some data and some apps might break and not function right if you're rooted. I think there are ways around that though. It's something I need to look into more.

But I don't root my phone, I might do it with an older android though, that I'm not using and can do whatever with...

[tame carbon]

Phones are but one small part of it

there's software in everything these days

and that software can break, much in the same way hardware can break

and to fix hardware you need tools.

to fix software, you need tools as well

[versed nebula]

Wow, what a coincidental series of events. Knock down other streaming services to 'domestic levels', regulate content, allow ISP-level blocking of sites, stop lower internet prices... Who oh who could benefit most from these things. Guess we'll never know.

Edit: Coming up next, Roger's takeover of Shaw will be approved.

[tame carbon]

but these tools are kept from us

[versed nebula]

Ltt should do a video regarding crtc’s decision

[oblique frost]

Who?

A lot of that went right over my head lol

[versed nebula]

Canadian telcos and government

[oblique frost]

Ooohhh

Makes a bit more sense now. I would expect those kind of things to happen in Canadia

I'm about 3.5 hrs from the closest border crossing to Canada. Close enough for me

[versed nebula]

I don’t understand your association between your 2 ideas

[oblique frost]

Nevermind. It's probably hard to explain without breaking the rules in here.

[tame carbon]

wat xD

[versed nebula]

If you think canada is a communist/socialist state yeah

[tame carbon]

rofl

Its called Welfare, get it right.

[oblique frost]

But who is Roger? He doesn't sound.... nice?

[tame carbon]

People cry socialism, but its just social welfare.

[oblique frost]

Nope I'm not going there

[versed nebula]

I know im cabadian 😉 im saying if he was going to bash canada for being communist

[tame carbon]

yeah that just proves ignorance if anything

[oblique frost]

No I wasn't going to bash Canada... it's a nice place. And I won't talk politics

[tame carbon]

Maple syrup 🍁

[oblique frost]

Pretty sure that's out of bounds here

[tame carbon]

though isn't Vermont outputting more syrup than canada is now?

[versed nebula]

Most poor people in america prefer to die instead of having universal health care and then elect wealthy people who makes them even poorer

[tame carbon]

I'm working some serious magic over here. I managed to integrate latex into my document module :o

[versed nebula]

Americans come to canada to buy meds for their diabetes because private companies are selling it too high there

[oblique frost]

I just joined this server tonight. Not about to get into trouble with the mods for going into politics in my first few hours here lolol

[tame carbon]

    \begin{center}
        \begin{tabular}{|l|l|l|l|l|l|}
            \hline
            Datum & Medewerker & Tijd & Project & Taak & Kosten \\
            \hline
            cell1 & cell2 & cell3 & & & \\
            \hline
            cell4 & cell5 & cell6 & & & \\
            \hline
            cell7 & cell8 & cell9 & & & \\
            \hline
        \end{tabular}
    \end{center}

^ input

I can now programmatically make my own pdf documents

[oblique frost]

2nd best product ever to come from Canada. After hockey of course 😃 I luv both

[tame carbon]

I thought that was snow ?

[oblique frost]

Riiight lol

[tame carbon]

snow and maple syrup

[oblique frost]

I like snow, I guess.. in moderation

[tame carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TfBbR6L0M

[oblique frost]

I added that to my youtube watch later list. Gotta run now though so I'm not late for work. Haven't started watching it but I like the concept

I'll stop by later today. Probably. Nice to meet you Crystal

[oblique frost]

Very cool

[peak cloak]

I like latex

I use notable for my notes

It's markdown, and you can use katex, ascimath, and other things

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak I'm using it as a tool to automate document generation

Templated tex generated from java

And then ran through pdflatex

Pretty neat

[waxen scroll]

ltt need an on camera network guru

hellloooo @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

[thick minnow]

I nominate anthony

[waxen scroll]

i said network guru

😇

[clear igloo]

Anthony is pretty good, I could teach him 😛

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll I thought they had one attempt... with a raspberry pi

[thick minnow]

PiHole?

[tame carbon]

instead of showcasing the standards that exist, that make it irrelevant which cameras you use

rtsp is kinda universal with cams

[stark crater]

I'm really confused... everything I see about streaming (and basically anything else that has to do with networking) says to hardwire your connection with an ethernet cable. Yet most routers only support Gb speeds. WiFi on the other hand supports 9.6Gb for WiFi 6 and 6.9Gb for the older WiFi 5... Sure real world is probably a lot less, but still faster than gigabit. Why are people using ethernet cables?

[thick minnow]

Let's see: More Reliable seems to be abig one

[plucky quarry]

no interference and barely limited by range

[stark crater]

Ok, that makes sense

Next question, my computer has a 10/100/1000 ethernet port, but my router has 1Gb and 2.5Gb ports. Will I get any advantage using the 2.5 port over the Gb for in home networking?

[plucky quarry]

no it would be limited by the 1gb ethernet port

[stark crater]

Thanks! I assumed but thought I'd check

[tame carbon]

@stark crater that's just marketing jazz

they have multiple radios on those wifi routers

they add up all the bandwidths from each radio, and use this bigger number to sell their products

its all lies.

with an 80MHz channel, real world performance is around 400mbit/s

[stark crater]

Good to know! Thanks!!

Last question... I have 400Mbps cable internet but it seems to actually fluctuate between 350 and 450. I am moving to 1Gb fiber, will I be able to get a little more out of the 1Gb like I do with the 400 or is fiber more consistent than cable?

[clear igloo]

You'll generally cap around 950 to 970Mbps on gigabit fiber due to overhead

[peak cloak]

9.6gb wifi, wtf where, that's a lie

That may be total wifi bandwidth

But not total speeds or anything

Ethernet is better

[low pond]

My total 2.4GHz output from router itself is 54Mbps

Sadlife feelsbadman™️

(especially when your laptop only understands 2.4, and the 5 can't be even used)

((and your the most data horder too, others who have 5GHz they dont even use it))

🤣

[dusk saddle]

Can the native vlan carry tagged traffic?

I guess it carries both nvm

[peak cloak]

just use ethernet

[hollow marlin]

Native VLAN maps untagged traffic to a VLAN. Egress traffic on the interface specifying the native VLAN will always be untagged outside specific scenarios. Ingress untagged traffic to the same interface will be mapped to the native VLAN and if its sent out another trunk interface which its not the native, it will be tagged on egress

[hollow marlin]

1G is still a struggle to achieve on devices. Not sure what marketing is advertising 9G, even as an aggregate

[dusk saddle]

@hollow marlin Confused, so let's say we have VLAN10 on S1. S1 connects to S2 which connects to S3 which also has VLAN10. The interfaces between S1, S2, and S3 are all configured as trunk ports which carry untagged traffic. If we're trying to ping a pc from VLAN10 connected to S3 from a pc on VLAN 10 connected to S1 it needs to traverse the trunk ports. Hows does the vlan map untagged traffic on the ingress port of S3.

I hope that make sense, maybe not lol

Typically a tag is added to the frame header but in this case it's not right?

[rocky badge]

Would the PC be connected to an access port on S3 & S1

[dusk saddle]

yes, PCs on VLAN 10 both connected to an access port on S1 and S3

only the connections between switches are trunk ports and assigned to same native vlan

[rocky badge]

So then the switch will tag the VLAN and know the src and dest MAC address from there

The switch will then look in its MAC/CAM table for the destination MAC address and switch accordingly

Until it gets to switch 1

[dusk saddle]

I see that makes sense, thanks! @rocky badge and @hollow marlin

[rocky badge]

(I think lmao)

[hollow marlin]

The interfaces between S1, S2, and S3 are all configured as trunk ports which carry untagged traffic
If those interfaces have VLAN 10 set as the native VLAN then it will be untagged. If not then it will be tagged.

[dusk saddle]

Gotcha! Those interfaces have vlan99 set as native vlan so they will be tagged then

I could have just checked the header in PT come to think of it

@hollow marlin Thank you though appreciate it

I wish we had in class lessons for this course, basically trying to teach myself this

covid ruins everything

[broken jetty]

What's the best way of putting a lot of data currently on an external disk onto a TrueNAS system (with a slow network)? I've been trying to use the Import Disk function but I'm not sure if that's what I want because it's causing an unreasonable amount of trouble.

[hollow marlin]

I recommend PT for people getting started so its good that you are using it. Make sure to make use of the packet walkthrough feature, it explains the processing at each step and is fairly decent

[dusk saddle]

Yes the simulation mode helps a ton. I heard GNS was better but PT is required for this netacad course through my college. PT has been good but the new version uses all sorts of old dependencies on Linux so I just run it through VM

[hollow marlin]

GNS/EVE-NG (I prefer EVE) are emulations and PT is a simulation. You would use them for real world testing and labbing.

[thick minnow]

Hi, i plan a NAS with a Raid with 4x4TB Drives and have a question about Raid 6 & 10. What I have understood so far:

Raid 6:
2 (no matter which) Drives can Fail, but to access my Data i need 2 new drives then the Raid can be restored with the Parity data and all my data is BACK.

Raid 10(1+0):
2 (but here it DOES matter which) Drives can Fail. If both failed drives are the mirrored ones, i can access all my data directly (not needed to buy Harddrives first) and all my data is SAFE.
BUT if the 2 Drives are from one Raid1 and so one of the two Raid1 drops out entirely, all my data is GONE.

My Questions:

• Have i understood this 2 Raid types right?
• When it comes to data security, Raid 6 is the better choice or ?(while it does not matter which drives are failing)
• Whould you recommend any other Raid type to me/in my case?

I would be very happy if someone can help me with that, thanks 😃

[peak cloak]

If you could I would use zfs, it implements raid but better

[thick minnow]

my old QNAP NAS does sadly not support ZFS

[peak cloak]

Ah, understandable

[thick minnow]

can you help me with my 3 questions?

[peak cloak]

Im not an expert but this is how I understand it
1)For raid 6, 2 drives can fail and you still have data access, however if a third fails, it's gone
2) With raid 10, I think it matters which 2 fails because if both drives that are storing the same info fail, it's fine but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
3) Imo raid 6, although read/write may be slower
4) RaidZ6, but you said you can't have zfs

[thick minnow]

2. Raid 10: yes if the mirrored ones are failing data should be fine

but if the 2 drives that are failing are from the same Raid1 then all data is gone

[thick minnow]

3. r/w speed doesnt matter, this is a one time backup for my 4TB PC HDD. Updates of the Backup i think will be done all 3 months or so

1. interesting, i thought that the Raid must be rebuild first for accessing all data 🤔

[peak cloak]

Idk I may be wrong

[thick minnow]

ok thanks anyway

[low pond]

That depends on the controller

Most of the time you could lively access data fully even if one of them fail

Upon replacing, it will start "rebuilding", you could still access the data from the system/server when this is happening

[tender hazel]

@hollow marlin how do you handle change management where you work?

[hollow marlin]

@tender hazel day to day task such as turning up a circuit, setting up statics, etc are handled with access notifications chat in Microsoft Teams and when a config change occurred, a repository pulls the config to record changes.
For anything service affecting, has the potential of being service affect or changes to our P/PEs, a MOP is written, sent to the NOC for notification to 24/7 customers. Minimum 3 business days notice else its scheduled as an emergency maintenance

[tender hazel]

right, but I mean do you have a CAB or anything like that?

[hollow marlin]

The sysadmins incorporated a ton with Sharepoint and Teams so the process is pretty smooth

[tender hazel]

like ITIL-style

[hollow marlin]

CAB?

[tender hazel]

change advisory board, a group of technical and business stakeholders who review and approve changes that are not normal day to day tasks

and in particular, more disruptive/expensive changes

[hollow marlin]

Oh that, kinda sort of. Engineers are given full reign of major changes but depending on the scope we schedule a meeting to go over a checklist to review. Larger changes we will also bring in corporate

The later is when cost reaches a substantial amount, like router replacement, new access equipment, etc

[tender hazel]

we implemented a CAB about 3 years ago, one of our employees is complaining that it has caused everything to come to a halt and that people are not taking initiative anymore

he feels like everything was fantastic and then CAB came along and messed everything up

I don't necessarily feel the same way but if I can do something to adjust things, I want to make things work better

[hollow marlin]

Prior to me starting here it was a similar situation and apparently led to a nightmare in the design of the network. It got to the point where customers were leaving and the meetings were just "it would be cool if we could implement this". The owner and corporate then put trust into the engineers and directors and said do what needs to be done to ensure our network is solid.
As said, unless we need to spend quite a bit, CAB is not really a formal thing for us.

I can see their perspective though, but also changes need some sort of process

[clear igloo]

@hollow marlin I'm going to need you to come to a meeting where we'll discuss your opinion on the upcoming meeting to talk about the meeting for the pre-meeting to the main meeting where we'll look at the post-meeting summary of the follow-up meeting while doing an Agile Scrum style workflow 😄

[hollow marlin]

Oh god, thats my last work place all over again 😆

[oblique frost]

Been there, done that, unfortunately

[hollow marlin]

Currently working on a major overhaul of one region for a large outage we had last week and unforeseen issues when failover kicked in. Meeting with the team of outage and pain points, then meeting with proposals and review, then scheduling. Post maintenance meeting when it goes south

[tender hazel]

our network was solid enough overall, but too many things happening ad-hoc, people upgrading things when they felt like

it was intended to reign in the chaos a bit

[tender hazel]

It is our sysadmin who is concerned with the system. He complains that he used to have freedom to make suggestions and implement new things and that it is now prohibited

A few years ago he decided to implement a new NMS and found what he thought was the best one (Zabbix) and set it up to monitor all devices, they spent weeks setting it up

The process felt like “I have chosen this, this is what we are moving to, start using it”. There was pushback because it isn’t as user friendly and because the decision was made unilaterally without really consulting others. So we included new system setups in change management as a result

To avoid having people spend dozens or hundreds of hours setting up a system that we hadn’t really talked about

[hollow marlin]

That always ends in disaster. Like mentioned, no standard process and coordination is terrible, too many and it stalls projects. Current process for us works quite well outside budgets.

[tender hazel]

Yeah. I’m trying to keep our sysadmin happy and listen to his concerns but I don’t want to replace everything

Especially since some of the restrictions he complains about were due to his own actions

We need controls but I don’t want them to be onerous

[thick minnow]

ok thank you very much

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo they're talking about moving my team off scrum

pls do

cut my meetings in half

[clear igloo]

Moar meetings you say?

[waxen scroll]

no more sprints

[clear igloo]

spring to a meeting and dodge all the questions in an agile manner

[waxen scroll]

after linus talk up the A90J TV now I want it

:X

a couple friends bought the master series A9s from two generations ago and the image is beautiful. This one looks insane TBH (from what I can tell on YT)

[copper rover]

Yup, should be team discussion and effort. I've had to work with people that ignored the rest of the team and decided to go rogue. Doesn't end well for the team or the client they're supporting on behalf of the company he/she represents

[tender hazel]

it happened again with something else months later - he said during a meeting that he wanted to look into different options for web file storage, manager said OK, don't spend too much time on it, but let us now what the options are

the following week he sends an email to the manager - "hi, I have set up the best product for this, it is called OwnCloud, I have set up the server and already have staff testing it. You should log in to have a look and see what you think"

he was not expecting a negative reaction and was surprised when the manager was upset that instead of looking into options he selected one set it up and already had people testing it

[copper rover]

Nope, you can lose fault-tolerance and still have access to the data live in real-time. In RAID5, you can lose just one disk; but performance will suffer until parity is rebuilt with a new drive. Now, if you lost two drives in RAID5 (as in one drops out while attempting to rebuild on another), you've lost the entire array and have to restore the entire volume from backup. That's why RAID6 is recommended past a certain number of spindles in the array. Because as the volume ages, so do all the drives at the same time. So if one fails, there's a greater chance of a 2nd one failing half-way through. I've had this happen to me with a RAID6 array. But, I was able to let that 1st drive rebuild and then replace the 2nd failed drive after the 1st completed. Meanwhile, the volume was active and no one was the wiser.

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo no internet….

[clear igloo]

I see a lot of refused connections

[rocky badge]

Yeah lol

[copper rover]

I agree with the managers reaction 🙂

[rocky badge]

But sheeesh all of the dns requests from clients

[clear igloo]

yah, same here

[rocky badge]

To get a reply back

[clear igloo]

yup

[copper rover]

Active refusal, not just timed out?

[rocky badge]

Power outages lol

ISP is affected

[tender hazel]

the latest thing was he was trying to get people to try libreoffice draw instead of visio, and was trying to get staff to use ubuntu on the desktop instead of windows

[peak cloak]

I mean I like linux but bruh...

[copper rover]

What an arrogant asshat

That should be a discussion, especially when it involves workflow change

Jebus

[clear igloo]

yup

[tender hazel]

the computer that the techs use to set up subscriber units was formatted with ubuntu and sometimes the service desk level 1 said it isn't working b/c they weren't familiar with how to use it, so they were able to use it as an excuse for why they couldn't get units configured

[copper rover]

Sometimes I wonder how many techs have Aspergers 🙄

[tame carbon]

this one does

[copper rover]

lol

[tender hazel]

he was required to set up a new station with windows again for that afterwards, but he wasn't happy about it.. he thinks our company is strange and that we "micromanage", he said at other companies that he worked at, he would recommend a product and the staff would use it - he thought it was really strange that at our company the managers who don't directly work with technology want to have some say in what applications the staff members are using

[copper rover]

Because the manager doesn't need to know the details. They just need to know what it will do in terms of productivity and efficiency.

and cost

[tender hazel]

he feels our management should not care what products are being used, that they go with whatever he suggests, and if not, he feels that he is not trusted.. these are mostly end user applications like office software and desktop OS

I'm not sure how to get through to him anymore

I'm sure at any other company here if he went and started setting up regular office staff on linux desktops with libreoffice the management there wouldn't be too happy either

[copper rover]

He's the type that would horde passwords and other sensitive information as a power trip. But should he get hit by a bus, that really puts the rest of the staff in a bad situation

Just be careful about these types. They only care about themselves. I've see this before

And force him to document document and...oh..document some more

[mortal plank]

I understand protecting them to make sure you don't get exploited for a project and just get dumped after, but powertrip. ouch

[waxen scroll]

have you thought about quitting

[tender hazel]

who?

me? or are you asking that question of someone else

[waxen scroll]

StDragon76

or whoevers boss it is idk

@tender hazel you should quit

[tender hazel]

the person I am talking about is not my boss

[waxen scroll]

oh

[tender hazel]

he is a coworker who I am trying to.. help bring back into the fold more

[copper rover]

Wow, that last Chromium update (v91) really did improve Javascript performance. Almost double the score over FireFox

JetStream2 benchmark

FireFox = 129.244
Chromium = 211.089

https://browserbench.org/JetStream/

[tender hazel]

I've always just used firefox

[copper rover]

https://blog.chromium.org/2021/05/chrome-is-faster-in-m91.html

[peak cloak]

I mean I would love to support FF

I used it for a bit

but it's just slow

[copper rover]

And yes, MS Edge updated chromium 91 too

So just as fast as Chrome

[peak cloak]

lots of people like Vivaldi

it's also chrome

[copper rover]

Brave. I'm just waiting for Brave to update its Chromium engine too

[rocky badge]

"lots" lol

[peak cloak]

idk, from my experience lots of people in other servers reccomended it

[rocky badge]

The majority uses Chrome ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper rover]

^

[peak cloak]

yeah

[copper rover]

Chromium, but yeah, that's really the engine behind it all

[rocky badge]

Remember, if you're on Discord, you're probably not talking to a wide range and large set of people

[peak cloak]

yeah

[rocky badge]

I wasn't even talking about engine, just Google Chrome

Not Edge or any other browser based on Chromium

[copper rover]

Eff Google 😛

[rocky badge]

Followed by Safari in 2nd place

[copper rover]

Safari is crap

[rocky badge]

not really

[copper rover]

crap

[rocky badge]

Safari/Webkit is pretty fine

[copper rover]

😉

[rocky badge]

chromium uses webkit

well, not directly, but a fork of webkit

https://blob.rocks/CkvdD1txDH.png

That's why user agents in Chrome show Apple Webkit and Safari

[copper rover]

I find it interesting that HTML5 is a set standard, yet there's still compatibility issues between different browsers. WTH?!!

[rocky badge]

because similarities between them are so close

[peak cloak]

companies that still mandate IE...

my mom's company

[rocky badge]

Out most of the browsers, Firefox is "way different"

[copper rover]

Brave just clocked in at 196.035 on the benchmark, but that's because it's using an older version of Chromium

[rocky badge]

Most browsers will prefer Mozilla 5.0

Then Gecko and Webkit, SpiderMonkey vs JavaScriptCore or V8

Then different networking stacks in the browsers/engines

[copper rover]

IE is being deprecated next year. As in MS plans on disabling or uninstalling it from the OS. Tick tock, it's on borrowed time now

[peak cloak]

yep

it's a bank

lots of old stuff

[copper rover]

They're effed

ActiveX? Sooooo screwed

[rocky badge]

You can always just not deploy the update lol

Which is what they'll probably do

if its managed by anything MS at all, like intune/wsus/etc

[copper rover]

Modern banks now require Truster Rapport to be used for commercial accounts.

Crap software too

Slows the PC down like you wouldn't believe

[rocky badge]

Also, Edge can still run IE

[copper rover]

Emulated?

[peak cloak]

yeah that compatibility mode or something

[rocky badge]

So that will continue through 2029

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/edge-ie-mode

Only allowed sites will run with IE 11

ActiveX, IE zones, etc

[copper rover]

Interesting

Anyone enable the Microsoft Defender Application Guard? Any compatibility issues?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/microsoft-defender-application-guard/md-app-guard-overview

[plain siren]

Ive used it

No compatibility issues

Its basically sandbox container around Edge

[tame carbon]

@copper rover wut

Defender App Guard?

antivirus to make sure the antivirus doesnt become a virus?

[plain siren]

Nah, Defender App Guard is a Container Isolation layer for Edge, Office, and Critical System Processes that meant for Anti-Malware/AV Use

think Docker but for Edge.

Or "Windows Sandbox"

[thick minnow]

what is this ?
zyxel gs-105b v2
is it only for LAN ??

[tame carbon]

its a switch

unmanaged switch

@thick minnow your ISP router probably has 4 lan ports, that's a tiny switch as well

you can use one of these if you want to connect more computers to a network

you connect the switch with one cable to your router

and then your devices in the other ports

[thick minnow]

its okay to connect the cable to whatever port ?

[tame carbon]

yeah, unmanaged switches do not have any advanced ethernet configurations

[thick minnow]

i found that in port 5HIGH it works

[tame carbon]

all ports are on the same bridge

[thick minnow]

oh okay

nice thanks 🙂

[tame carbon]

if you use IPTV through the switch

then I would make sure you have one that supports IGMP Snooping

[thick minnow]

could you recommend some crimping pliers

[tame carbon]

otherwise TV signal comes out every single port xD

[thick minnow]

nono just ethernet is needed i dont have/use tv 😄

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow if you want to have an easy time, get the Passthrough RJ45 keystones from VCE

with those, you push the wires through the keystone, and the crimp cuts off the ends

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Pass-Thru-Network-Ethernet-Crimper-Connector/dp/B07VZTN6YK/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=vce+rj45geschirmt&qid=1622291197&sr=8-14

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61uAzfSIUEL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

its easier to get a nice termination

you can push the wires through the connector

[thick minnow]

that sound very cool!

[thick minnow]

oh nice

[thick minnow]

ah ok, thank you very much

[tame carbon]

I have a different brand, but uses same keystones

[thick minnow]

¨should i take it all is it money worth ?

[tame carbon]

yeah that's reasonable

though wait

what is that clamp

[thick minnow]

oh waiit

[tame carbon]

cable testers are pretty cheap

[tame carbon]

they only check if the order of the connections is right

yeah no you dont want that

[thick minnow]

so the pliers you gave me ?

[tame carbon]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Pass-Thru-Network-Ethernet-Crimper-Connector/dp/B07VZTN6YK/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=vce+rj45geschirmt&qid=1622291197&sr=8-14

[thick minnow]

yes

[tame carbon]

These ones

Yeah, they have the cutting action built in

you fiddle the wires in the right order, you slide the keystone on it

[thick minnow]

iam just very starting with networking so i dont know much stuff

[tame carbon]

push it all the way down to the insultation

then you put the keystone into the crimp

it pushes those gold plated contacts through the insulation into the copper

and cuts off the excess

just crimp aaand ur done

[thick minnow]

yes i have my language video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtgSnjW97UU

[thick minnow]

you can look if its fine what is he doin

[tame carbon]

This isnt rocket science

its just tedious

and these pushthrough things make it a lot easier

[thick minnow]

woah that is amazing and it looks that it will make job much easier

[tame carbon]

yeah

even if you cut off too much outer insulation

you need like a few cm

so you slide it down

and when you crimp it

the insulation is locked in

[thick minnow]

yes

i know that

[tame carbon]

some keystones have a metal thing around, those are strain relief

shielding is usually inside

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/nng8s9/new_guys_been_doing_some_networking/

[low pond]

I feel like it's just for the jokes

even though it wasn't done on the right time

[little schooner]

they deleted the post already?

[low pond]

oh shite

yeah i think they did it was working when i replied

[copper rover]

So does the Defender App Guard sandbox through Defender? Or is it just an API for Defender to leverage? And if so, do other 3rd party AVs integrate with it too or do they often use their own solution at sanboxing via hypervisor means? It's possible 3rd party AVs are doing this already and I'm not aware, but I don't think so.

I have a feeling that MS is laying the groundwork to enable it globally with some future update, but IDK for sure.

[copper rover]

Now THAT is innovation. I always hated making my own cables because the fingers would get sore trying to line up the pair in the correct order while leveling of the ends prior to insertion to the plug. Always PITA. But that crimper solves so many issues. I need to get one 🙂

[thick minnow]

does anybody know why i cant get into my Zyxel NWA-3160 ? its wi-fi acces point and i want to configure it.

ip 192.168.1.2 does not work

[peak cloak]

how is it getting an IP?

should be dhcp right?

check in your router and see what IP it got

[thick minnow]

ok

all of thoose have name of phones etc.

non of them named zyxel or NWA-3160 or whatever

[lean pebble]

Someone used kvm virtualization?
For some reason my shitty windows 10 machine stopped working

No errors just not loading into windows

[copper rover]

Probably best to head over tech-support channel on that one as it could be a long drawn out process to fix it

[plain siren]

It an API

Defender is now the "Hub" for all the Security Controls/API's/Etc

Defender will Leverage the Windows Hypervisor Platform/Containers to isolate Edge/Office

[low pond]

@plain siren hello there can u check dm for a second

xD

[plain siren]

I got 999+ DM's and Im mid something, itll be tonight when I do

[lean pebble]

Oles!

[low pond]

oh hai erina

[lean pebble]

Hey

[low pond]

oh alright okay

[low pond]

mmmyus hullo

[lean pebble]

I finally got it boot into recovery mode but still same shit

[low pond]

what hypervisor

like proxmox or

[lean pebble]

Kvm virtualization virtlib

Virsh

[low pond]

virsh, oh,

libvrtd stuff yea i actually run that on the hetzner node

i never configured it some guy did it for me eks-de

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel so I helped him finally set up the gpon and WAN through the vlan

but I don't think the module syncs at 2.5G

[lean pebble]

It's already configured it worked perfectly fine till 2 days ago

Windows died

[thick minnow]

hello, my single internet speeds are slow, how can i fix this

[peak cloak]

using ethernet?

[thick minnow]

yes

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow do you even know what it means?

speedtest servers often use multiple connections to fully saturate the link

[peak cloak]

oh

yeah

[tame carbon]

has nothing to do with actual speed

[peak cloak]

just noticed that

single connection

single stream

[thick minnow]

sry didnt know it

[small glade]

Was told to ask here so is it possible to host your own server/nas that can auto sync/backup photos and videos from an android device?

[peak cloak]

Yes of course

[small glade]

How would I go around doing that tho?

[peak cloak]

You could use something like nextcloud

As for the nas, you could just plain Linux or truenas

I reccomend using zfs file system

Truenas already uses that

[small glade]

Want to do this as cheaply as possible lol so is there any reliable and reasonably fast way to connect one or more sata hdds to a raspberry pi?

Pi 4 has usb 3.0 and gigabit ethernet so it seems kinda like a possible candidate for something that could work

[peak cloak]

Yeah that's possible

As for storage you would need to decide what type of redundancy you would want and total capacity

If you want as much capacity as the raw drives have you would have no redundancy if it fails

[small glade]

Although I've had pretty good luck with hdds so far probably better to have redundancy for something like this

[peak cloak]

Yeah you always do

And have a backup somewhere else

For example with 2 drives you can do a zfs mirror which just mirrors data onto both drives

Basically raid 1

[small glade]

somehow havent had a drive failure yet despite using a lot of old laptop salvaged drives for less essential data

Also for the nas and it's 2 drives would it be safer to have 2 identical capacity drives from different manufacturers (less likely to fail very close to each other time wise, less likely to have joint failure due to a bad batch) or 2 completely identical drives?

[willow bloom]

yes, if you want to increase the durability of your data (not guarantee — there’s a difference), use two similarly sized drives in a RAID1 array (one drive is just a mirror)

[thick minnow]

The thing is that it wont respond on ita default gate. No dhcp server ip showing just name of that wifi withou password and working internet connection...

[peak cloak]

Connect to the wifi

And do ipconfig /all

[thick minnow]

Hmm how to i dont have pc with wificard in it

I tryed internet sharing with phone wia usb and no resppnce as well

[peak cloak]

Apple or android?

[thick minnow]

Andro

Galaxy 2016

[peak cloak]

Get termux

[thick minnow]

Kk

[peak cloak]

It's a Linux terminal

[thick minnow]

Got it

Here ipcpnfig /all ??

Oh okay

[peak cloak]

No, it's Linux, so you would want to do ip addr

And

[thick minnow]

Ip addr okay

[peak cloak]

ip route

To get the gateway

[thick minnow]

Ok

192.168.0.25

[peak cloak]

Go to 192.168.0.1

[thick minnow]

Ok

And there ?

Oh

Okay

Yup what now ?

[peak cloak]

See if you can get into webconfig

[thick minnow]

Ok

[peak cloak]

Is that the config of your main router or no?

When you go to that address

[thick minnow]

i went on pc

so wait sec

there

this is not the router oke that is another one i have 😄

no that is not my main

my main is 192.168.1.1
second is 192....0.1
and this should be 192...1.2

this third isnt router its just wifi acces point most likey its only one ethernet port

above is part of a manual

but that addres times out

times out even on explorer and when directly connected wia cable

[thick minnow]

no

[lean pebble]

Why windows so annoying?

[tame carbon]

because microsoft

[tender hazel]

I expect new mikrotik 60ghz solutions announced in a few days in the June newsletter - 802.11ay, possibly including terragraph

it is going to be very interesting to see what price point they manage for that

[thick remnant]

does anyone know why when i turn on my pc it doesn't recognize any of the internet adapters(2 ethernet ports and a wifi antenna). But when i restart my pc it will be connected to the internet via ethernet.Sometimes it will just stop working at a random time. this is what happened when i went through the troubleshooter but i have little experience in networking.

[peak cloak]

Cable issues?

Tried replacing the cable

[thick remnant]

yes

[peak cloak]

Hmm, no clue

[peak cloak]

Could be driver issues

[thick remnant]

how would i update them

[lone sun]

@thick remnant Try resetting the modem. And by reset I don't mean restart. Two different things..

[thick remnant]

what would i do? unplug for like 10 minutes?

[lean pebble]

Updates broke 2 times the same system even after clean install 😒

[lone sun]

No, you can reset it through accessing the modem menu itself. There should also be a little hole in the modem, and you just push into it for a few seconds with a paper clip or something. @thick remnant

[thick remnant]

ok,thanks

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo the real protip is in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/nnpvpa/how_do_we_properly_perform_cgnat_on_a_mikrotik/

[lone sun]

🙂 No problem...this was the only thing that worked for me when my modem refused to detect my ethernet cable, but somehow my wifi was perfectly fine. 🙃

[tender hazel]

@waxen scroll I think that guy read part of a MUM presentation but didn't understand the entire thing

the best CG-NAT tutorial for MikroTik is this one: https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/EU18/presentation_5195_1524667160.pdf

explains how to use netmap to assign fixed port blocks to each customer to allow tracking of traffic to a specific customer based on IP and port

[gilded ice]

anyone know how to modify packets

like catch them modify them then send them again

so i can make values that shouldn't be

im not cheating anything

infact opposite

trying to expose a potential exploite

[thorny vector]

Like, how fast are you trying to intecept and rewrite?

@gilded ice

Probably going to want to do something with scapey

[deft fable]

help - why is my Intel AX200 constantly dropping gateway IPs randomly?

and sometimes having bad packet losses too

[thick minnow]

is there a way to clear the ubiquiti threat management logs?

[lean pebble]

That's alot of threats

[thick minnow]

I forgot to turn it off when... cough acquiring some torrents

it would be nice to clear so I don't have to try remember there are 510 threats, that way all I need to check is if there are any at all and I will know it wasnt me

[lean pebble]

I can't help you with that since I don't know how to use ubiquity products 😅

[thick minnow]

Linux ISOs, I presume?

[thick minnow]

yes we will go with that option

Good to see a fellow believer in the use of torrents

[gilded ice]

sorry i wrote this right before i went to sleep

idk ive never done it

in fact i only know think how it works because of the video about the crashing ig post

and how the user used it to change the size to massive numbers

and i was wondering then if packet modifying could be used for my thing

[peak cloak]

Crashing Instagram? Wut

[gilded ice]

https://youtu.be/OHlZXyhG3eQ

iphone crashes the phone

old android crashs ig

[peak cloak]

Oh

[gilded ice]

semi new android lags a lot

[peak cloak]

Crashing the app

[gilded ice]

new does dine

[peak cloak]

Prob some weird custom image

[gilded ice]

nopr

he made 2 widgets

a poll and count down

then used a proxy to catch the packets

modify them to be bigger than the earth

sent the packets

ig too stupid to say hmm this isn't normal

[peak cloak]

does ig not do sanitization

[gilded ice]

guess not

watch the video i guess

he says ig could just do an easy check and fix it

[peak cloak]

don't have time to watch a vid

[gilded ice]

ok

[peak cloak]

too long and endless talking

[gilded ice]

i summed it up

just widgets bigger than earth

[peak cloak]

umm, I just looked it up and that's not the reason

[gilded ice]

ofc iphone can't optimize it and the phone crashes

bruh what

[peak cloak]

OS was not able to decode the character and hence crashed

[gilded ice]

was the video wrong

[peak cloak]

wait no

idk

[gilded ice]

ohhh wait

that was also in there

he had a poll

a count down

[peak cloak]

oh yeah it's just a huge pic

so yeah

ig did not do user input sanitization

[gilded ice]

and a load of characters that are big in size

[peak cloak]

I wonder if they still do it

[gilded ice]

together is a nightmare

but anyway im trying to see if i can modify packets for the safety of my thing

[peak cloak]

what thing?

[gilded ice]

secrete

[peak cloak]

also he used a HTTP packet modifier

prob

not a raw packet mod

I used something like what before, I forgot the name

[gilded ice]

what does a packet look like

[peak cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/782511918107197471.png?v=1

[peak cloak]

1s and 0s at it's core

get wireshark

and see for youself

[gilded ice]

hmmm

i just copy and pasted the 1s and 0s into a decoder

[peak cloak]

I was joking about the 1s and 0s

[gilded ice]

couldn't i modify it in text form

ok

makes sense

[peak cloak]

it technically is

[gilded ice]

is wireshsrk free

[peak cloak]

yes

[gilded ice]

good

can you modify and then send it

or just look at it

[peak cloak]

just look

wireshark doesn't have a editor

[lean pebble]

I made packet capture that change the packets in golang long time ago was fun project xd

[gilded ice]

anything you can recommend me

idk where to start

i feel like a program that can edit packets could be very dangerous if not safe

[peak cloak]

how lol?

[gilded ice]

they can read everything going in and oout

[peak cloak]

what do you want to do?

[peak cloak]

and?

[gilded ice]

well

[lean pebble]

Why do you need it?

[gilded ice]

sensitive info like passwords and stuff

[peak cloak]

that's the reason for encyption

[gilded ice]

but can't the program know the encryption key

[lean pebble]

So basically you want to capture all packets that includes passwords and usernames

[peak cloak]

yes, but you would need to give it the private key

[gilded ice]

no

[lean pebble]

Only enterprise grade have this options

[gilded ice]

ok

[peak cloak]

the private key is a secret

[peak cloak]

wut?

no

[lean pebble]

yeah

[gilded ice]

no*

[lean pebble]

you can't do it easily with wireshark

[peak cloak]

wireshark captures packets

[lean pebble]

You need to create your own tool that check it

[gilded ice]

wire shark only looks

[peak cloak]

yes

answer me

what is your end goal

[lean pebble]

I once made something like this in python and golang as part of my courses

I think one of my hdds just died

[gilded ice]

there is a guy on tiktok who has found a way to get illegal items in a ps4 game and is selling them for insane prices

and i think packet editing is the only way he's doing it

anyway

[peak cloak]

umm

lol

[gilded ice]

i report things like that

[peak cloak]

no

r/masterhacker

[gilded ice]

since when can you edit ps4 games

[lean pebble]

So you want to get yourself in trouble with the law enforcement ?

[gilded ice]

no?

ive already reported a similar game breaking bug and it got pactched

[lean pebble]

Well you said yourself illegal

[gilded ice]

illegal items

[lean pebble]

yeah

[gilded ice]

i mean like items that shouldn't exist in the game

and people are paying 1000s for them

tbh they are getting scammed because once the game finds out they could get them taken away

anyway that is $1000s

[thick minnow]

hi

i have problem that my wifi router doesnt create ip

[low pond]

what

[lean pebble]

Oles

[thorny vector]

Depends on what level of logging is set, and if the domain is actually centralizing the logs

Long story short, there are more than enough ways to detect that kind of activity

[copper rover]

On the LAN side? Are you sure DHCP is enabled?

With DHCP, the computer broadcasts on the network "Hey, I need an IP address, can someone give me one". And the Router running DHCP responds "Yes, I have some in a pool, here, have this one from the hat". The PC then takes that IP and assigns it to the network adapter.

So, if DHCP isn't running on the router, then your PC will fall back to a self-assigned IP starting in the 169.254.x.x range; and that's not going to help you get online.

[dusk saddle]

Apipa

[normal urchin]

anyone here able to help me with a truenas issue, my read speeds are always hitting ~200MB over a 10gb connection regardless of how i have my drives set, iv'e tried 4 drive stripe, 2 mirrored vdevs and a 2 drive stripe. the write speeds are going as high as they should but read is just stuck at 200MB no matter what

[oblique cipher]

does anyone know how I could get a webserver at http://192.168.50.30:7000 (as an example) to be accessible from http://example.lan ? also, would it possible to instead make it https://example.lan without setting up a cert or whatever on every device?

[tender hazel]

not port 7000, unless you do some kind of port forwarding or reverse proxy to make that happen

[oblique cipher]

is a local reverse proxy to a psuedo tld possible?

[tender hazel]

http://example.lan/ means http://example.lan:80/ and https://example.lan/ means https://example.lan:443/

yes

[oblique cipher]

what software would I use to be able to do that

[lethal mica]

you cannot really do ssl on .lan without distributing your own certs ...

[oblique cipher]

i figured as much, just checking though

[tender hazel]

the best thing to do would be to make a subdomain of a domain you actually own

rather than using a made up tld

[lethal mica]

if you just want to have a dns resolved to your site that's rather easy with a simple hosts entry

[tender hazel]

for reverse proxy I would use nginx web server

[oblique cipher]

so I could have nginx point 192.168.50.30:7000 to http://example.lan then make a network-wide hosts entry that points example.lan to the nginx server ip?

using something like https://github.com/0xERR0R/blocky for the hosts entry

[lethal mica]

i think it would be easier just to create a DNS record for example.lan to point at your nginx server, and then configure your nginx server as a reverse proxy to pass the request to your upstream @ http://192.168.50.30:7000

unless you have access to that 192. then i suggest just changing the port 😉

[peak cloak]

^

just change the port if you can

[tender hazel]

depends on the situation - the first 1024 ports on Linux can only be hosted by processes running as root

and sometimes it is not advisable to run some random web app as the root user

in those cases the best approach is to use nginx to reverse proxy the web app

[oblique cipher]

this looks like a good solution, I'll try and test it soon

ty all for your help

[tame carbon]

+1 for nginx

[tame carbon]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-soon-automatically-share-your-internet-with-neighbors/

[thick minnow]

wow

just wow

[tame carbon]

Its opt-out

[thick minnow]

even worse

[lean pebble]

+2 for nginx

[thick minnow]

+∞ for nginx (idk)

[lean pebble]

Haha our water company starting to put fibers in their water tubes and sell that to the other internet providers for get bigger fiber coverage all over the country.
I hope they will do it faster that the correct ISPs.

[thorny vector]

Advertised as water cooled fiber, I hope.

[lean pebble]

🤣

I hope to

I hope to see the fiber in house in the near future and not only behind my backyard

[thick minnow]

Water-cooled Fibre lines?

[lean pebble]

I like this idea xD

Everything should be water cooling

[lean pebble]

Hey guys,
I have VMWare esxi and I'm using cloudflare to proxy it for get more protection but now I can't use the web interface for uploading isos and files that bigger than 100mb to it.
Someone here succeed to make reassemble script that take the file and uploading it by chunks of 99mb each instead as one file?

[tame carbon]

@lean pebble split

split -b 100M archive.tar.gz "archive.tar.gz.part"

to reassemble: cat archive.tar.gz.part* >archive.tar.gz

[smoky estuary]

after nearly 2 years of running pihole, I am shutting it down, I don't use it anymore.

what is the best way to safely reset my pi? should I just pull the power, format the sdcard and install noobs or just reinstall everything through noobs?

[lean pebble]

But how can I reassemble it directly after uploading it to the server without logging in ssh and run the command

[tame carbon]

you can't :P

[low pond]

You could probably set some automation that does it tho

[lean pebble]

Lol

crystal you gave me an idea but I need to find a way to do the split automatically while putting a file to upload

[thick minnow]

Well, Virtualbox is too much of a pain to use on a hackintosh, QEMU it is

[flat wagon]

guys, basically tl;dr, I upgraded my home to Mikrotik networking and Crystal helped me with my my VLANS, we installed the multicast package on RouterOS but everytime I turn on the ISP tv box, it works for a few seconds and then it stops working. any ideas of possible causes?

[waxen scroll]

@tame carbon you broke it

[low pond]

You broke it you fix it crystal

[waxen scroll]

☝️

[low pond]

learn from your mistakes i once let someone in my server to fix some netplan/<whatever centos uses for the networking thing> configs and it didnt boot up ;-; and he didnt help me, i just tried my best and somehow asked other people and reverted the config as i had it saved and did all that thru the rescue boot of the sevrer

[tame carbon]

I most certainly did not

[distant wedge]

Telus/Bell used Untagged traffic. Check your VLAN’s and make sure they’re not tagged from SFP.

[lament night]

does anyone know why we arent allowed to send ss of speedtests here?

[waxen scroll]

because ss posts are low effort and often people just spam them to flex and dont contribute anything to the discussion of networks

half the time they post one and just log off discord

[lament night]

aah

my fup got over so im literally getting 0.9 mbps lol

[low pond]

And a lot of people anyway do

annoying but ok, some do but then ask "why this is happening..." etc which is alright

[tight lynx]

does anyone know why my Gigabit ethernet is locked at 100mbps?

i have connected to the GE port in my router

[thick minnow]

probably the ethernet port on your device is set to fe mode or smthn

[peak cloak]

Cable?

Make sure it has 8 wires

[thick minnow]

wait, gigaBIT right?

[tight lynx]

cat5 and does it support it 😛

[tight lynx]

yeah giga🅱️it

[thick minnow]

Isn't that like ~125MB?

[tight lynx]

erm wdym? its at 150mbps

[peak cloak]

Look at the ends

[tight lynx]

aah

[thick minnow]

Ah, nvm. Confusing some stuff here

[tame carbon]

@tight lynx if the cable is faulty and not properly connecting all 8 pins, it falls back to fast ethernet 100M

that only requires 4 wires, instead of 8

[soft sky]

Hi, I just insalled Ethernet cables in my house

I'd like to test the speed

What shoud I use

[peak cloak]

iperf3

you need 2 computers

one running the server

one the client which will connect to the server

[soft sky]

How do I do it

[peak cloak]

download it,

on one you run iperf3 -s

then

on the client computer

iperf3 -c 127.0.0.1

[peak cloak]

replace 127.0.0.1 with ip of the server

[soft sky]

I'm not sure which one to click

[peak cloak]

download iperf3 for <platform of choice>

[unborn skiff]

how to fix strict nat connection

[peak cloak]

windows

linux

[soft sky]

There is no iperf3 for windows

Just normal iPerf

[peak cloak]

yes there is

[soft sky]

This one I guess?

[peak cloak]

yes

[unborn skiff]

what does i perf 3 do

[soft sky]

Should I download on both computers?

[peak cloak]

yes

you need the binary on both

[peak cloak]

speedtest

[unborn skiff]

i open it and it clode

[peak cloak]

because it's a cli application

[soft sky]

Ok I downloaded on both

Then what's the next step?