networking

[peak cloak]

ah read some of it, it's just a modification of gnome

still gnome

[thick minnow]

Okay then

How long have you been using it?

[peak cloak]

like 5 months already

[thick minnow]

great

[peak cloak]

@thick minnow https://blog.system76.com/post/648371526931038208/cosmic-to-arrive-in-june-release-of-popos-2104

[thick minnow]

Okay

Thanks

[slate sonnet]

kde is just a DE. you can install kde on pop os, but it's not awesome (in terms of feeling "premium")

Like, the first login screen upon boot will be the one from pop os, then if you lock and try to login, the lock screen will be from kde

In fact, KDE literally means K Desktop Environment

[silk hare]

When you guys hear the term "Software Defined Networking" what companies come to mind first?

[clear igloo]

Juniper, Cisco, Fortinet, VMWare, Palo Alto

[waxen scroll]

Extreme, Citrix, cloudgenix

Meraki

[slate sonnet]

I have a question, how would I connect my phone to my pc through my vps using wireguard?

Well, what I need is to be able to connect to my jellyfin home server

So can I just copy the existing rules I have set up for minecraft and paste the rules, but with the port for jellyfin?

Here are the rules I have atm

[bold karma]

Ubuntu, as steam can be installed on it and many steam games have already been ported

[peak cloak]

popos is basically ubuntu with more polished gnome

[thorny vector]

@lean pebble Go one step further. Do pop_os. It's ubuntu with canonical's telemetry ripped out, better ui, and some nice utilities

[bold karma]

I had a tough time getting popos to work properly

[peak cloak]

it's really ez

what was the issue

[bold karma]

But straight Ubuntu worked perfect

It just wouldn’t load steam half the time.

[thorny vector]

In terms of the flow loading steam, its the exact same

Literally the same packages

[plain siren]

^

The real diff between Linux Distros is Package Management.
The real diff between Distros based on the same "root" distro is their preconfigs

At the end of the day, they really are the same under the hood

[thorny vector]

Some of them. Also a lot of underlying system stuff, how the kernel is setup, extra modules being loaded in, tuning, etc

[plain siren]

Well thats the more modern stuff. Only recently have we seen some really interesting and unique shit

SmartOS, Rancher OS, etc

[thorny vector]

Just all the different system managers is a big divide

[plain siren]

Indeed.

But the fundamentals remain the same

Thats the beauty of it

Rancher OS really was one of the most intersting to me.

[bold karma]

If one is based off another it is no longer a distro, it is then a derivative or flavor depending on various factors. Proper terminology matters.

[plain siren]

A distro is a flavor.

[thorny vector]

lol, and pop_os is most CERTAINLY distinct enough, even if just by removing telemetry

And they upstream a lot of what they do to ubuntu, and recently, gnome

[plain siren]

https://bedrocklinux.org/ < This kinda shows by example how they all come together at the same point

[bold karma]

You are wrong. But then again what do I know.

[thorny vector]

Distro is literally short for distribution. If I repackage centos and add a few packages and call it something else, it's a new distro

[plain siren]

lol discord force compresses that

[primal ice]

all the forks

[thorny vector]

Also, if https://distrowatch.com/ is wrong, I don't want to be right

[plain siren]

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8962.txt < rofl

[waxen saddle]

"When more than one person says, "We are not the Protocol Police," at
least one of them is not telling the truth.

The Protocol Police love company and are never alone."

looool

[wicked tartan]

hey networking people how do i explain to someone in layman terms that whatever wifi speed you have will not be used entirely on 1 program

e.g i have 100mbps but chjrome only uses 1mbps

[copper rover]

It's a shared resource. WiFi connectivity is the max theoretical with the limitation being the internet speed capability and the hosting server load at the other end.

Also congestion is a factor regarding concurrent activity on the same WiFi network by both the end-user and others.

If someone is asking if a single application is guaranteed 100mbps, the answer is "no".

[slate sonnet]

That ping doesn’t seem too good

[lean pebble]

Thanks :)

I told my friend to test popos

Morning :)

[tame carbon]

@wicked tartan best case scenario on 2.4GHz wireless is about ~70mbit/s

on 5GHz you can get much higher speeds

[wicked tartan]

wait why am i pinged here

[tame carbon]

Because you asked a question, and I took the time and effort to formulate a response

[wicked tartan]

oh i asked about how do i explain to somewhat that your entire wifi download upload is not entirely dedicated to 1 program

LOL

[distant wedge]

If you need to put effort into your replies to someone, you should probably get off discord for a while, just saying.

[wicked tartan]

wait let me say at least i am thankful

[tame carbon]

r/wooosh

[lean pebble]

Hello

[waxen otter]

i need a switch

[copper rover]

Hello. Welcome to networking anonymous

[waxen otter]

any better putty alternative

[plain siren]

Windows supports SSH and Telnet natively now

[thick minnow]

OpenSSH

unless you're using widows

[waxen otter]

im not a expert i just need something to connect to my pi 4

[plain siren]

Command Prompt > ssh works just as well

[plain siren]

OpenSSH is native to windows now

[peak cloak]

just use openssh built into windows

ssh <username>@ip

ex

ssh presentmonkey@10.10.10.10

[plain siren]

https://sysprogs.com/SmarTTY/ < if you really need a "Client" however

[lean pebble]

Windows openssh

Powershell have it builtin

[copper rover]

I'm a fan of Putty myself, nice to keep profiles saved. Versatile

[plain siren]

{
    "guid":  "{5064e844-37f9-4c7c-aba5-51fa0795ee1a}", //Random
    "hidden":  false,
    "name":  "DockerHost",
    "commandline":  "ssh user@localhost" 
}```
If you have Windows Terminal, you can add profiles to them for SSH now.

[peak cloak]

windows terminal is cool

[copper rover]

Is Windows Terminal supposed to be included in the next build of Windows rather than remain a separate download? Seems they will just have one apps to run both CMD and PS

[plain siren]

Yeah, its slated for addition in the next rollout

[copper rover]

Figures

[plain siren]

Insider already has it native

And you even have > Right click > Open In Windows Terminal

[copper rover]

"GPU accelerated text rendering engine" 🤨 But why?

I'm guessing vectored fonts that scale to resolution?

[peak cloak]

effects I guess?

like this crt effect

[copper rover]

But that doesn't require GPU acceleration.

Oh, CRT, I though UI

[waxen otter]

ey pepl what is the difference between a network switch with external power source and a normal switch

bcs how i see it its just another plug wasted

[plain siren]

All switches have external power sources?\

[waxen otter]

shit they all need power

[plain siren]

You could POE power some

[waxen otter]

well can i power the thing trough usb

bcs i rly not want to use up another plug in my power brick

thats just realtek

[clear igloo]

The only USB powered ones I see on Amazon are 100Mbps only and 4x as expensive as gigabit ones that need a plug

[waxen otter]

shit i need to buy switch for 16€ and a charger?

1000Mbs

[clear igloo]

no, a $15 gigabit switch will come with the power supply needed

[waxen otter]

wwwwait

[clear igloo]

They require wall power though, not USB power

[waxen otter]

no the ones i found have a DC005 connector on back

and 5V 1A above it

that is USB power

[clear igloo]

If you have a barrel plug to usb adapter then it should work

[waxen otter]

well i dont have one but i can make one

[clear igloo]

Then you should be fine

[peak cloak]

yes

I poe power one of my distribution switches

switches need to actually process stuff

hubs don't iirc

hubs suck

[waxen otter]

u misspelled POWER

[peak cloak]

?

[waxen otter]

I *power

[peak cloak]

poe

[waxen otter]

xD what that

[peak cloak]

power over ethernet

[waxen otter]

wait u can do that?

[peak cloak]

yes

very common

in enterprise

[waxen otter]

doesnt rly matter i alrdy ordered a charger

[peak cloak]

for example powering access points, so you just need to run one wire

but the end device needs to support it

although you can get splitters

[waxen otter]

good to know

[low pond]

Especially on given buildings where you need AP's at given postions, but cant run an dedicated AC wire too just for the adapters (maybe by luck if the building has it, but still)

It's used quite a lot

[plain siren]

(And Cameras)

[craggy aurora]

Hello, I'm new to the server so I don't know if asking on the forum or here is better but anyway. I have a question related to the max "real speed" of an TP-Link powerline adapter (TL-WPA4220 Kit). As of right now, I have an internet connection to my main router of 100Mbps, the problem is that my main PC is not in the same room (router in living room and PC in my room) and my house doesn't have ethernet cable, so I have to use some kind of ethernet powerline extender. The problem is that for some reason the max speed I get is 50Mbps in some cases less. I know the distance affects the performance but it is no more than 3-4 meters.

[peak cloak]

lots of factors influence powerline performance. Even though the "distance" may seem short the outlets may be on completely separate circuits so it needs to go the main box and back. If the direct distance can't you just cut a hole in the wall?

[plain siren]

Your PC is connected to the Router through Powerline?

Because like @peak cloak If its living room > your room, you are on 2 diff branch circuits.
In that case I am surprised you get 50Mbps

[craggy aurora]

I already checked the connection speed between the devices and the TP Link software says 150 Mbps. Also, I check the motherboard and network card specs and both support the speed so dose factors are out of the equation. Regarding the circuit, according to the apartment blueprints, it shouldn't be the case. Is my parent's apartment so cutting a hole is unlikely to happen 🙂

[peak cloak]

it's powerline

idk what else to say

[copper rover]

I'm using powerline at home

The link limitation comes down to the wiring in the building

If they're all on the same circuit, you'll get a really good connection. In my case, around 650mbps

But if you're having to cross circuit breakers, meaning from one room to another, that will most likely reduce link speed

[craggy aurora]

In that case is there a better solution? I've been told that a mesh network could improve the speed rather than the powerline but I'm a little sceptical about it plus my network card doesn't connect to 5ghz

[copper rover]

Sometimes it comes down to noise on the line if grounding is poor. Others is resistance. Replacing or re-terminating electrical outlets might help. But that's only if you're a DYI homeowner and know what your doing. Otherwise call a handyman (bonded and insured) or an electrician .

[peak cloak]

mesh is eh

[copper rover]

Powerline is probably your better option if you want sustained throughput and low latency. About the other WiFi technology that I could see do better would be WiFi6

But you'd need a WiFi 6 router or AP along with a client adapter that supports the new standard

[craggy aurora]

I don't think that's happening because most of that technology isn't in my country yet or is very hard to find, but thnx anyway I'll see if replacing the network card for a 5Ghz and connecting that way improves something.

[copper rover]

How far apart is the computer from the router?

Home or appartment?

In other words, are you in a shared building complex?

[craggy aurora]

It is 3-4 meters with a wall in the middle or 13 meters approx without a wall in the middle. It is an apartment

[copper rover]

Well, you could ghetto it and just run a patch cable from your computer to the router 😁

[craggy aurora]

Hahaha, my parents would kill me but maybe I can make a deal to make a hole on the wall. Thanks anyway

[copper rover]

🤨 I was thinking more of running it along the top of the wall and over the door frame or something. Or if not crossing a walk way, along the floor against the wall.🤔

Safety is important, you don't want to trip over something

[craggy aurora]

The problem is that my mom is very picky when it comes to the house aesthetic. She even tried to remove the fiber optic because it added another cable where the router is.

Strict as hell

[copper rover]

The mom factor, yes, that's always an issue for sure

When you get married, it gets worse because now you have two of them. Three if counting the wife. 🤣

lol, sorry, couldn't resist.

[craggy aurora]

LOL

[plain siren]

Just wait until he realizes there is 3 of him.

[peak cloak]

my router is in the basement

and wiring in walls

no mess

[tawny flint]

hey so i want to replace the fans for my Netgear ReadyNas Pro 6
CPU
PSU FAN
Backfan

[ashen escarp]

@tawny flint ok

[tawny flint]

ok

[peak cloak]

https://mobile.twitter.com/zackwhittaker/status/1387473059838402565

Zack Whittaker (@zackwhittaker)

New: Cloud giant DigitalOcean says customer billing data, including partial payment card numbers, was accessed by an unauthorized person over a two-week window in April. DigitalOcean said it has fixed a security bug as a result.

https://t.co/bPYRSeI4tS

Likes

107

Twitter · Apr 28, 2021, 6:25 PM

[waxen saddle]

"You can trust us!" - every cloud provider (...to leak your data at some point, randomly)

[ancient osprey]

Weird question, anyone know how to create a WiFi Profile for Apple devices.

[peak cloak]

WiFi Profile?

or on the device itself?

[sour minnow]

I beg to differ. Companies like google and amazon can build better and more secure networks than 99% of people

[rocky badge]

https://daduckmsft.github.io/WiFiProfileGenerator/

[ancient osprey]

Like a .mobileconfig for Apple Devices, I want to learn how to make them properly to with my some enterprise type gear I have with Radius 801.X Authentication

[peak cloak]

ah

on the device side

[rocky badge]

I know IronWiFi has a tool but it doesn't auto populate PEAP un/pw

https://www.ironwifi.com/wifi-profile-generator/

[peak cloak]

no clue about ios

[rocky badge]

I believe you can make it auto populate with Apple Configurator 2 & MDM

[ancient osprey]

I have Apple Configurator 2 on my Mac, but there’s no useful guides on how to make the profiles.

Unless I’m missing something.

[rocky badge]

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-a-system-based-802-1x-compliant-wi-fi-profile-for-macos/

That's around the same for iOS too

I don't have a mac handy to get screenshots of it but that looks about right

[ancient osprey]

Okay. Thank you. I was having a hella hard time finding anything on it.

[rocky badge]

I had a profile one time to automatically request a certificate from ADCS and use it for WiFi & stuff lol

[ancient osprey]

Lol. I’m working with UniFi equipment and everytime I leave it makes me enter the password in. But I’m done and I’m just creating profiles for RADIUS users.

[rocky badge]

nice, I stopped using RADIUS at home lol

Now I'm just using normal PSK

[ancient osprey]

I love the security RADIUS provides tbh.

[rocky badge]

I wish everything at home supported WPA3 lol

I'd just configure my main SSID for WPA3

so "PSK" isn't shared anymore, each device will have their own encryption

[ancient osprey]

WPA3 would be great but like it’s taking forever to be adopted

[rocky badge]

yeah

[ancient osprey]

Like first you say WPA2 is flawed but yet here we are.

Just give me WPA3 already

[peak cloak]

idk really anything of mine supports WPA3

[rocky badge]

most of our devices support it but not everything

[ancient osprey]

Yeah.

[rocky badge]

I believe its actually just one laptop

but it happens to be a Surface pro 😐

[ancient osprey]

That’s why I’m using RADIUS cause it at least provides me everything

[rocky badge]

Otherwise all of our phones and ipads support WPA3

and most support WiFi 6

[ancient osprey]

Lmao. WiFi 6 still it’s wide spread yet.

5 is still the most prominent that I’ve seen anyway.

[rocky badge]

Yeah

But most modern consumer stuff has WiFi 6 anyways

iPads, phones, laptops, etc

provided they're not cheapo

[ancient osprey]

Yeah. The networking side baffles me. They go oh yeah here’s cool shit. takes a billion days before it’s actually open

[rocky badge]

yeah lol

[ancient osprey]

Like murder me.

Oh, that guide you sent me uses macOS server. Should I use that instead of AC2?

[rocky badge]

nooooo

use AC2

[ancient osprey]

🤣🤣 The most dramatic no.

Server that bad??

[rocky badge]

yes

and AC2 is more updated

[ancient osprey]

Didn’t Apple basically strip server naked and shove it in the alley somewhere?

[rocky badge]

macOS server is now just an application on top of macOS

it used to be a different OS

[ancient osprey]

Yeah, I remember that happening. But now it’s basically so bad everyone wants the server OS back

[waxen saddle]

It’s really that bad?

[ancient osprey]

Lmaooooo from what I’ve seen, yes.

[tawny flint]

question new to this
i have a TP-LINK TL-SF1016D 16-port 10/100M Desktop can only (Output: 5.0VDC / 0.6A)
and i bought new CCTV pack and the CCTV require 12V
So one of them need
1x DC 12.0V⎓1A, <8W RLC-520
3x DC12V & PoE (IEEE 802.3af RLC-410
1x DC12V & PoE (IEEE 802.3at) PTZ (pane tilt and zoom) RLC-423
will a poe injector boost the DC to my switch?

[waxen otter]

[07:52:34 INFO]: [Residence] Loading world data into memory...
Any idea why that takes a long time?

wc

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint pretty sure those Reolink cameras accept passive PoE

I have 4 of those here, powered by a cheapo TPLink PoE switch

if you have ones with motors on them, may require more power

negotiated PoE is for higher voltages, 802.3at/af

[vestal sundial]

That TP link "TL-SF1016D" is not poe capable huh

[tame carbon]

I have one of these

802.3af compatible

[tawny flint]

so will a POE Injector or something put more power into the TL-SF1016D switch yes/no??

[vestal sundial]

No

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint Look at the specsheet/datasheet

If it uses PoE, it should say exactly which standard, and how much watt it needs

Passive PoE, 802.3af or 802.3at

@tawny flint that switch you have isnt PoE capable

either use an injector, or get a switch capable of doing PoE

[vestal sundial]

Just what I said 😅

[rose sparrow]

Hey! Can I use a CAT5 30m cable for 12v 1a PoE

[tame carbon]

no

@rose sparrow 2Amps ?

[rose sparrow]

1A

[tame carbon]

You're limited to 300mA

on Cat5

[rose sparrow]

Oh ok

[tame carbon]

@rose sparrow its certified for up to 100 meters then.

if you need higher power, you need higher voltages

12-57V

[tawny flint]

So Crystal

[rose sparrow]

Idk, I have to supply power to a CCTV camera and it came with a 12v 1a brick

I already have that cable setup
So I think I need to change the cable

[tame carbon]

@rose sparrow cables can do it just fine.
https://i.imgur.com/f9rUKdx.png

[rose sparrow]

Oh great

[vestal sundial]

802.3af uses higer voltage

[tame carbon]

@vestal sundial voltage is negotiated.

Passive PoE is nonstandard, those are just 24V

[tawny flint]

so i have 5 Poe Camera but one of them is a heavy boi RLC-423 PTZ so a POE still work without AC/DC power cable?

[vestal sundial]

Read the instructions/specifications of the product

"DC 12 V & PoE+ (IEEE 802.3at)" So providing at it will work

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/eQSuJNN.png

@tawny flint yeah you can either plug in the power brick directly to the camera (it has a 2nd lead for power)

or you can use PoE

[tawny flint]

what POE switch would you recommend me to get for 5 POE camera AUD (Australia)Price

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint you need something capable of doing vlans, or a regular unamanged switch would do?

[tawny flint]

unmanged i guess it only for home i problem set the IP on my Router and the camera setting
using
FTP from my NAS (Storage)

[tame carbon]

I dont know of any 802.3at capable devices, other than the PowerBox by mikrotik...

the tplink variants are only 802.3af which isnt what you need

[tawny flint]

yea i dont mind other brand

[tame carbon]

yeah but its only 4 ports xD

[tawny flint]

but something that not too pricey

[vestal sundial]

Or get af poe switch and wire that one big camera with direct power + ethernet. A bit more work but saves you cash

[tame carbon]

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/smart-switch/tl-sg2210p/

Though I think you are running into power budget issues with that ^

Its only 61 watts, each of those cams is around ~15 watts

and you want to have a bit of headroom, otherwise it may start power cycling if you overload it

[tawny flint]

will a 802.3at POE injector will work for the RLC-423 PTZ just on it own will it delivery enough power?

[tame carbon]

you'll end up with a clusterfuck of injectors

TL-SG2210MP

https://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/smart-switch/tl-sg2210mp/

8× 802.3at/af-compliant PoE+ ports with a total power supply of 150 W*.

@tawny flint this would do ^

[tame carbon]

$215 wat

lol, its 114 euros here, which is ~150 usd

[tawny flint]

Welcome to AUSTRALIA EVERYTHING IS OVER PRICE

RTX 3000 na not tripe or double it x5 double the price

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint lol can you check how much the PowerBox Pro costs for you? (Made by Mikrotik)

[tawny flint]

KEK

[tame carbon]

Those have 4 ports

wow thats still expensive

[tawny flint]

yea i thin i go with TP one 😄

[tame carbon]

they cost 84 euros here which is 101 USD

[tawny flint]

i just used what it call ZIP pay aka pay weekly or monthly

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint that tplink has 10 ports, 2 of which are SFP ports

you can get $5 modules you can put in there, to get two more gigabit ports

[rose sparrow]

Any cable internet expert onboard?

[tawny flint]

so TL-SG2210MP
is all POE include for the PTZ (IEEE 802.3at)

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint Yeah, it has 802.3af/at capabilities, so it can power the cameras.

[tawny flint]

ok i will buy the TL-SG2210MP
then

[tame carbon]

just need regular network cables between the switch and cameras

[tawny flint]

yea i will be using CAT5E
i bought 2x 100M CAT5E

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint you crimping the leads yourself?

[tawny flint]

yea

[tame carbon]

you got tools for this ?:P

[tawny flint]

Yea im a pro (noob) did it to some old cable that is Cat5

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint I recently upgraded my cable crimp to a passthrough crimp :D

[tawny flint]

i have 200PCS RJ45 Head

[tawny flint]

very nice In Australia our Speed not that fast

[tame carbon]

This makes life so much easier ^ :D

you push the wires through the keystone

and the tool cuts off excess

[tawny flint]

yea that does make it easy but i dont have that sadly

bought mine one from aliexpress

[tame carbon]

Yeah I dropped like 50 bucks on some german branded tool

the keystones themselves cost the same

bag of 500pcs for 80 bucks or something like that

[tawny flint]

yes please TMR it coming Ya 😄

so anyway i problem sell the useless one on ebay or Fb marketplace or gumtree AU

that alot of them

yea i just bought a Crimping kit from ebay $21AUD xD

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint I'm currently planning out a big outdoor wireless network, and I have like half a dozen PoE boxes xD

[tawny flint]

Holy shit that alot xD

[tame carbon]

each pole has two wireless APs on it, and a point-to-point antenna

the ptp antenna goes back to the main building

all outdoor

[tawny flint]

btw i dont know what you talking about cause i am a bit of a noob in networking XD but i will agree to everything 😉

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint https://i.imgur.com/cpJlYkS.png

[tawny flint]

how much is that......

[tame carbon]

Outdoor 90 degree sector for wireless

@tawny flint like $150 ?

They cover a 90 degree field of view

[tawny flint]

$285 with Tax AUD https://wisp.net.au/mikrotik-mANTBox-52-15s.html

[tame carbon]

@tawny flint I'm keen on trying these out: https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire_cube

These will be feeding the access points

[tawny flint]

oOOooOO that one look nice is this a EU/UK brand?

[tame carbon]

EU

[tawny flint]

i see that why it cost so much in AUD

[tame carbon]

I ❤️ mikrotik

@tawny flint but those wireless wire cubes are pretty neat

[thick minnow]

It's true, He does

[tame carbon]

they set up a gigabit link at up to 800 meters

you just point them at eachother

and turn them on

[tawny flint]

i see you are a Mikrotik fan boi/gurl

[tame carbon]

Haters be hatin'

[tawny flint]

yea AUS internet is CAP by NBN and ISP so it like $$$$? you want fast pay more

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow in almost all scenarios, buying mikrotik is cheaper for me

[thick minnow]

Alr

Good then

[tawny flint]

if it you trust and like i would too

@tame carbon should i just get another UPS for just the POE?
this my Aurora Vista 850 UPS
So what is in it
Netgear ReadyNAS PRO 6 (custom fireware to the OS 6.10.4 for the laters one RN)
6/10x ST33000650NS 4x for backup incase
Archer VR1600v router

[tame carbon]

It wont be using that much power now would it ?

not sure what your UPS is rated for

but that switch wont be using that much power

at most ~150 watts

[tawny flint]

Input

Nominal Input Voltage 220/230/240 Vac

Nominal Input Frequency 50/60 Hz

Output

Capacity 850 VA / 480 W

Output Power Factor 0.56

Nominal Output Voltage 220/230/240 Vac

Nominal Output Frequency 50/60 Hz

[tame carbon]

0.56 PF

[tawny flint]

i change the battery btw

maybe i should just get a CyberPower for that POE switch

[tame carbon]

I wouldn't put more onto that

[tawny flint]

yea im guess too it will make a lot of beeping saying overloading

@tame carbon https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/274661780355?epid=21034372862&hash=item3ff31e2b83:g:0TQAAOSwltBgEVfj Value600EI i have a spare battery for it 🙂

should be enough?

[tame carbon]

probably :P

I'm no expert on UPSes

[tawny flint]

thanks for helping me alot Crystal

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak my favorite meme has died today :(

-man has passed away today at age 65

[peak cloak]

yesterday

:sadkewk:

[low pond]

I know right,

[topaz mirage]

Hello
Finally formatted my 2nd HDD to work with my NAS.
But the issue is that I transfered 20GB and it started to slowdown and even error out. When I click Try Again on the error message...it will eventually start again and repeat this slow cycle of B/s -> kB/s -> MB/s -> error...
I just found out that the drive is SMR (shingled)...could that be an issue? The HDD is blank, so it shouldnt be moving anything around. But maybe the SMR is still slower even when writing new data on it and it needs to buffer it/cache it and I reached it's limit (~20GB)

Is my theory correct and I don't have to worry? 😄 Until now I used that drive in an external enclosure and copied files to it like 10GB max in single go... Now I'm doing ~200GB in one go. Keep in mind that the drive was blank.
Thanks a lot
EDIT #1 (error translation): Unexpected network error
EDIT #2: The whole NAS is slower right now as I'm moving to it. Idk if it was like this before, but I dont think so...
Is the respond time of the whole NAS when opened in File Manager slower because the SMR drive is bottlenecking the whole filesystem? And the system is waiting until it responds with info about files stored?

Huh weird...its not erroring on me. 26MB/s is low, but it was like 5MB/s before...
When I copy to primary HDD (10TB IronWolf Pro CMR drive) it will go around 80-95MB/s in comparison.
So this has to be SMR issue....

[copper horizon]

Smart status?

[topaz mirage]

Any particular ID you need?

[copper horizon]

Nope, just wondering if you checked it, first thing I check when I zero out a drive previously

couldnt tell you to check an id specifically, I have an enteprise nvme drive question as well hah

[topaz mirage]

Oh, well I didnt when I wiped it

[copper horizon]

If any server/home lab people out there know this: I have nvme enteprise native 4096 sector size drives (4096 logical/4096 physical). Need it to emulate 512, (512 logical). Whats the best way to do it? I see some manufacturers have their own tool, but cant find one for WD. I know this is networking, but it's not the crowd that #tech-support/hardware would know

[topaz mirage]

I have to wait for a second when opening a folder through Samba...didnt wait before installing drive, but again. I wasnt doing a 20MB/s and more copy to it while browsing.
At least I think...

[tame carbon]

@copper horizon I think @plain siren knows more about this

[peak cloak]

I myself don't know. Maybe someone in the homelab discord would know

I don't know too much about storage

[tame carbon]

I've seen him ramble about nvme storage before

[copper horizon]

Ah didn't know there was a discord for that. Cool, will ask there. Silly Virtualizor (to setup VPS's) cant work with 4096

[tame carbon]

and how to align blocks

[copper horizon]

Could be many things, RPM for that drive, is the drive plugged into a controller, are you running raid etc

[topaz mirage]

RPM is 5000 something, its connected via SATA. Like the IronWolf Pro which functions/ed fine. No RAID. You cant do RAID with SMR anyway.

[thorny vector]

@topaz mirage You absolutely can do raid with SMR

@copper horizon What OS?

[copper horizon]

ubuntu 20.04 but not tied to it if i need to switch to another

[thorny vector]

what fs?

filesystem?

Usually you can set the filesystem up to be logical 512

[plain siren]

We call this 512e

hdparm --set-sector-size 512 /dev/sda

[copper horizon]

thanks, doesn't require a reformat? or it does. Thought i read somethign about making sure the offsets make sense

[plain siren]

Yeah you would reformat

That being said, you may wanna check to see if your particular SSD comes with a tool to set the alignment

Some do

hdparam is a destructive command

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin whats a service desk ENGINEER?

seeking SERVICE DESK ENGINEER (Tier 2/3 WAN support) - remote

sounds like no engineering involved

[plucky crescent]

I have a pretty simple port forwarding question, is there anyone on right now to field this?

[plain siren]

Sure

[plain siren]

There isnt. Its basically T2 Helpdesk

[waxen scroll]

should I troll the recruiter?

[plain siren]

Totally

[plucky crescent]

If I want to port forward something for a game on all my computers, rather than making individual rules for each PC, can I port forward to the broadcast IP, or does that not work?

[waxen scroll]

the last recruiter i trolled was someone from amazon

i asked if I have to supply my own piss jugs or if the company provides them

she ignored me

[plucky crescent]

lol

[plain siren]

No you cant haha.

The point of PF is that you have a bunch of machines behind 1 useable address.

So you gotta share

So lets make it easy

[plucky crescent]

so if I have 5 pcs, and a game has 18 different ports it says it needs, I need to set up all these rules for each individual PC?

[plain siren]

Your public IP is 1.1.1.1 and its got 1-4096 of useable ports.
PC 1: 10.0.0.1 > Running Mineshit on 1001
PC 2. 10.0.0.2 > Running Mineshit on 1001

Yeah each rule needs to be individually setup

[plucky crescent]

agh

is there a protocol anywhere to let your OS talk to your router to forward ports, or is that pie-in-the-sky talk?

[plain siren]

in above example I would forward like.... 1001 to 1001 on PC1 and 1002 to 1001 on PC2

UPnP although Please for the love of god dont use this. Its stupid insecure

[plucky crescent]

yeah, I probably should not have purchased a mikrotik with so little networking knowledge

it's not for noobs.

[plain siren]

Mikrotik basically does almost nothing for you in terms of automatically setting things up, so yeah

its for those who are really detailed tbqh

[plucky crescent]

I really appreciate that, but its menus get my head spinning, and the TO and FROM pointing is a little hard to get the hang of

[tender hazel]

I run upnp at home on my mikrotik for the sake of convenience, but I keep close tabs on my devices

[plain siren]

FROM IIRC would be if you had multiple public exposed address

[plucky crescent]

after win 98, I don't know enough about the windows kernel to keep track of what programs are running on my pc anymore 😦

[plain siren]

Unlike a consumer router which assumes you got 1 public ip

I think you can catchall the FROM with 0.0.0.0 but I dont remember

[plucky crescent]

ok thank you for the info NWO. I'll get cracking on a bunch of port forwards!

[plain siren]

I would say have fun but

[plucky crescent]

[formal lily]

I want to build a server pc from spare parts but the thing I’m confused about is how would I keep my internet protection while running the server off my home network I would need to use my home ip for the server wouldn’t I?

[peak cloak]

nope

I just segregate my home network from server network

my home trusted network is on 10.0.20.0/24

and server is 10.10.30.0/24

and kubernetes cluster is at 10.10.40.0/24

[formal lily]

I’m guessing you do that through your router then?

[peak cloak]

and 10.10.30.0/24 and 10.10.40.0/24 can't access anything else other than the internet

[peak cloak]

it's network design. My router has one cable to the switch with all the vlans. Then the switch does all the vlan untagging/tagging to all the different devices to my network such as servers, APs, and distribution switches

[formal lily]

Ah

[peak cloak]

It would be ideal to have at least 2 v4 ips, one for hosting, another for home use, but it's expensive

ipv6 plz come faster

[formal lily]

So without doing a lot can’t really set up a server on a different network on home.

[peak cloak]

you can see if your router has something like dmz

and stuff like vlans isn't nessacary

[plain siren]

R u me?

[peak cloak]

it's just a way to get multiple networks over one physical interface

[peak cloak]

lol, that's my testing/ipv6 subnet

[plain siren]

I really need to move my Home Site to 10.10

[peak cloak]

1 site

although I heard it's best to do 10.site.vlan.x

[plain siren]

Ye

[formal lily]

No on this new router I got from my isp it doesn’t have dmz

[peak cloak]

what router?

[plain siren]

10.0.X.X would be a "Global Cast" network for something like your root domain AD or something.

And then you would have site.domain.tld + domain.tld

[formal lily]

Sac2v2s it’s the new spectrum one complete butt

[peak cloak]

yeah I doubt it would even let you define multiple networks

[plain siren]

Im a meme and even use 10/20/30 etc for my IPv6

[peak cloak]

like I did the same thing before without vlans kinda

[formal lily]

Yeah it doesn’t has like 2-3 options

[peak cloak]

like I just did it by port

[formal lily]

I do plan on picking up a different router soon though

[peak cloak]

now I do it by vlan interfaces

[peak cloak]

mikrotik if you want to learn networking

[plain siren]

annnnnd my XPS just decided to literally halt and catch fire

[peak cloak]

how?

battery?

[plain siren]

I have no clue, but it rebooted for a windows update. Someone told me the update was bricking installs... but this is not what I was expecting

This is some next level fuckery

[molten dove]

now im glad i delayed that update

[plain siren]

I am so happy it was sitting on a glass table

or... is

[molten dove]

imagine wooden table

[plain siren]

I wonder if my warranty covers this

[molten dove]

hold on wait

ur telling me ms still hasnt fixed this dumb update yet

[plain siren]

IIRC, there is a whole level of under the hood security changes/requirements required by MShit (Supposed to be the final "Transitional" stage of hardware level security upgrades provided by Windows 10) in this update and OEMs are slacking despite being formally told months in advanced

sigh what a day this is turning out to be

I should go back to bed

[ancient osprey]

@rocky badge Hey, sooooo I was trying to create the profile for 802.1X but it is error ring out was wondering if you had any suggestions. Currently using Unbiquiti Dream Machine RADIUS server…

[tender hazel]

Un-biquiti?

that would be a good term for if you remove ubiquiti gear from your network

[ancient osprey]

I meant Ubiquiti

Lmao

I’m starting to think there’s a lot better gear out there that’s not Ubiquiti

[plain siren]

There is. There very much is

Ubiquiti is what happens when you get a bunch of semi-pro tier hardware engineers that want networking gear and have them do software engineering without training.

Then tell them to cut corners

And hire pretty UI/UX Designers

[ancient osprey]

Great.

Cool.

[plain siren]

The appeal is def there cuz Cheap, Pretty, EZ

But... holy hell they fall shorter than a fucking cliff off the grand canyon

[ancient osprey]

Everyone told me it’s good gear. And it’s great for home use. But now I’m a bit frustrated.

I dropped 350 on a UDM…

[plain siren]

And god help them when IPv6 hits "Critical" rollout stages this year

[ancient osprey]

What’s a good choice then?

[peak cloak]

tell that to verizon

[peak cloak]

microtik?

[ancient osprey]

Never heard of that

[peak cloak]

I mean when I was getting into it I didn't know either

[plain siren]

Im to the point I would rather take a fucking baton to the dumbshits heads over at HQ

[peak cloak]

I just happened to get the er-x which is pretty descent

[plain siren]

Ubiquiti hit the market at the right point and had the running start needed since they filled a hole in a good demand market

But glass house effect

[peak cloak]

the er-x is in the Edgerouter ISP line so it's pretty nice tbh

[plain siren]

Not looking where they were going and BANG

[peak cloak]

except for ipv6...

it's fine in the cli kinda

but acceleration doesn't work with it

v6 completles breaks with acceleration enabled

[plain siren]

If it wasnt for all the signed bin bullshit they slapped on it, It would be so nice to replace the software on these Unifi devices

[ancient osprey]

So, what’s good from Mikrotik?

[plain siren]

Honestly, almost all of the lineup is good because it does exactly what it says on the datasheets

Just match the specs to your needs

As it should be.

[peak cloak]

does what it says, powerful OS

[plain siren]

My only gripe is the "lack luster" punch they give since you will find things like the Switches only have 1Gbps total throughput capacity or something but I cant fault them for it because they dont lie about it. Its stated right up front

"Does what it says on the tin" never really felt so true before

If only we could have Mikrotik give Ubi some lessons

That would be such a beautiful middle ground

[ancient osprey]

Any way I can see what the UI looks like?

[plain siren]

Its not pretty but hold on

[ancient osprey]

And play with it?

[peak cloak]

yeah actually

[peak cloak]

@ancient osprey http://demo2.mt.lv/webfig/

you can also try sshing

or using winbox

[waxen saddle]

My biggest problem with implementing mokrotik is the GUI. My wife at least has a hope of understanding the Ubiquiti UI.

[ancient osprey]

God damn. This is a whole foreign language to me. 😅😅

[peak cloak]

is that ros7?

[plain siren]

Not sure, I yoinked it from https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Winbox

[peak cloak]

ah

because I see ipv6 on the left

which I don't see on the demo

[plain siren]

Mikrotik is what I think of if I assumed Cisco IOS had a WebUI

[ancient osprey]

All I wanted to do is make identity certificates for my UniFi RADIUS server to use with .mobileconfig for Apple Devices

[plain siren]

You are in control.... but you are in control to the point you define everything

[ancient osprey]

No I’m like 0.o

[plain siren]

Dont even try to use Ubi built in Radius server

[ancient osprey]

What should I do then?

[plain siren]

Setup a segregated one

does a prayer
Even Microshits RAS Server on an AD Server which is pretty click-n-go-ez is way more reliable

[ancient osprey]

But that takes Win Server license

[plain siren]

Wellllllllll if you DM me that can be uh...

adjusted

[ancient osprey]

O.O

Ummmm. Okay? I’ll hear you out. I’m just trying to make identity certificates for mobileconfig

[plain siren]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/networking/technologies/nps/nps-top

[waxen saddle]

I’m not familiar with NPS. /me reads

Oh network policy server. Still not familiar, but I have an idea.

[plain siren]

Its basically a way of saying IF YER IN THIS GROUP > YOU GET ZE ACCESS

[tender hazel]

yeah we use NPS at work for our wireless auth and for logins to mikrotik routers in the field

my biggest complaint about NPS is that it doesn't support radsec yet

we do want to use radsec for some things so we might have to put a radsec radius proxy in front of NPS

[plain siren]

I hold the same complaint. I use this myself: https://github.com/radsecproxy/radsecproxy

It was pretty damn easy

[tender hazel]

yeah I haven't used radsec myself but our biggest reason for using it is obviously security

I was wondering though if it also provided a means to guarantee delivery of radius packets, since it uses TCP

it's always been a problem that RADIUS uses UDP and if you need for your RADIUS server to have a complete accounting of everything, UDP can be dropped in congestion situations and then you can be missing data

radsec is built on TCP so I wonder if using it will mean more resiliency since it might retransmit in the case of a dropped packet?

[plain siren]

The support for TCP is "Experimental" but it is following the rules of TCP

Drop = Retry. Ive managed to observe this as operational

But the reliability of the actual protocol and its use of TCP has been called into question.

[tender hazel]

because that would be handy even for situations where we don't need the security

[plain siren]

You heard of "TCP Meltdown"?

[thorny vector]

I've never particularly messed with radius. Never had a use case for it windows AD didn't scratch for me.

[tender hazel]

no.. but from doing a search it is why things like OpenVPN are worse on TCP, because you are doing TCP on top of TCP then and you get two different layers trying to do congestion control that don't know about the other layer

[plain siren]

DTLS with Packet Reordering is the "Happy Medium"

[tender hazel]

but I don't see how that applies to radsec given that radius is traditionally UDP and so tunneling UDP inside TCP shouldn't be as bad

especially since radius packets aren't that big to begin with, usually it would fit in a single packet

[plain siren]

Thats why I say "Called into question" because I said pretty much exactly this... yet the "network scientists" of the mailing lists keep groaning on.

For me, it works. Itll prob work fine 100% without issue. Just had to throw in the disclaimer

[tender hazel]

there are other issues when it comes to UDP on IPv6 too, which is going to necessitate most DNS queries moving to TCP

in order to be able to really begin turning off v4 once IPv6 attains critical mass

[plain siren]

Ever heard the phrase "Protocol Jenga"?

[tender hazel]

no

[plain siren]

The continued stacking of layers of protocols and removal of ones underneath causes an administrative mess that could topple. Added complexities make it harder to keep up.

I had a chuckle when I heard someone say it

Jenga with protocols

[waxen saddle]

Does DTN fall in to protocol Jenga territory?

(Delay Tolerant Networking/Bundle Protocol)

[plain siren]

Wow thats been a while since I heard someone mention DTN outside papers

But yes that would be a prime example

[waxen saddle]

I ❤️ DTN

[plain siren]

Thats the real pro-tier shit tbh

[waxen saddle]

You are literally the only person I’ve encountered who has heard of it.

[tender hazel]

I haven't heard of it

[plain siren]

I was wanting to do some AmSAT cubes as a project when I had the chance to launch something once, this is when I ran into the whole concept and science behind DTN

[waxen saddle]

Nice

[peak cloak]

Nasa uses it iirc

[plain siren]

Sat networks are heavily reliant on DTN

GEO/MEO/LEO/Ground layers

[peak cloak]

yep

[waxen saddle]

Bundle protocol sits between layer 3 and 4 of the OSI model (...becoming layer 4) and it abstracts away the underlying transmitting type (doesn’t care if it’s Bluetooth, WiFi, printer, radio, etc..) each bundle is transmitted to the next hop and the receiving hop takes custody and keeps the bundle until it can move it along to the next hop

[plain siren]

This is a cool Earth to Mars Lander concept diagram that gives a good look as to what its like

[waxen saddle]

This is great for transmitting more data from say, satellites orbiting Mars and Earth, where transmission opportunities only happen when line of sight isnt blocked by say, a planet or the sun.

[plain siren]

Mars and Earth
Bingo baby.

[waxen saddle]

Ive done my homework. 🙂

[plain siren]

The people behind this are amazingly smart

[waxen saddle]

Even tried writing an implementation in powershell. 🙂

There are many parts I don’t understand and/or can’t wrap my head around yet. But I’m slowly trying.

[plain siren]

Virtualbricks.

Yes, the legos

[waxen saddle]

Hahahah

[plain siren]

This is a great way to do it

Theres nothing like seeing NASA and AmSAT Communities use legos to do next-level science

Guess we never grow up

[waxen saddle]

We really don’t. We just get more complicated.

[thorny vector]

@waxen saddle What did you try to write in powershell?

[waxen saddle]

An implementation of DTN, according to RFC 5050 I think

I also think there’s an update to it, but I haven’t tackled this project since COVID protocol sent me home

[thorny vector]

Yeah, pwsh is incapable of it, unfortunately. Unless you do a whole bunch of .net calls, and at that point you're better off writing in in another language

[waxen saddle]

There’s parts where you interact with raw binary or something like that that’s low-level enough that I wasn’t sure Powershell could handle it

I can’t do any real programming.

[thorny vector]

I would say at minimum you'd need to do it with python. It has enough flexibility to do the full range of what you'd need to do

But it'd be pretty inefficient.

go or a C language would be the best

[waxen saddle]

Rust?

[plain siren]

RFC5050/ISO 21323:201(6?) is Current and still "EXPERIMENTAL"
Prob will be for another year

[waxen saddle]

It’s been that way for a while. What’s the date on it?

[plain siren]

of course anything with SPAAAAAAACE in mind is experimental

2007

MITRE Corporation and NASA's Yeet Engine Group still are Administrative lead

[thorny vector]

I wouldn't do it in rust. Between it's static linking and way it handles memory, I don't think it'd be the best

[waxen saddle]

What’s my goal in all this? Ad-hoc emergency communications that don’t need any infrastructure. Tightly team up with Ham radio operators because they are the Linux sys admins of the radio world

[thorny vector]

Already got IP over HF. I've unfortunately had to work with the military's version

[plain siren]

Hell yea! During Hurricane Harvey I switched my relay to the supplementary emergency bands just for local rescuce ops and then dipped to Oklahoma

[waxen saddle]

I’m talking some kid in a boat can float down the street, end up at a shelter, and his phone is carrying emergency location information of those in trouble. Now the tent can allocate and send resources instead of guessing

[plain siren]

Thats honestly the hardest thing about S&R is location

"Where is everyone?"

Minutes count

[waxen saddle]

Yea. It’d need cooperation from phone vendors. Like throw your phone into emergency mode, type a bit about your situation, and leave the phone alone. It’ll silently transmit DTN packets to anything that will pick it up

[thorny vector]

https://www.project-owl.com/ and https://clusterduckprotocol.org/

Already working on stuff like that

[plain siren]

Ayyy cluster duck

[thorny vector]

Less about beating delay though, and more about a super resilient, self repairing wireless network

[waxen saddle]

But yea, that was my dream of DTN. For use when all infrastructure is down

[thorny vector]

Should just teach land navigation and survival skills in school 😄

[waxen saddle]

Agreed actually

[plain siren]

https://github.com/Call-for-Code/ClusterDuck-Protocol @waxen saddle

[waxen saddle]

I just found out about LoRa last week.

[plain siren]

I have my reservations about LoRa because Proprietary on Public Bands but

Thats a losing fight for me to take

[waxen saddle]

Looked for clusterduck on iOS app store. It is not what I was expecting

[plain siren]

Was it clusters of ducks?

[hollow marlin]

Im seeing a lot of missing v6 addresses

[plain siren]

2007 was a simpler time

[hollow marlin]

Ah, I didn't catch it was a reference back in 2007

[restive hawk]

working on running cat6a cable for my home. I am trying to figure out a solution to run the drain wire to a ground but the wall covers I have are plastic. The plan is to run 3 lines to different rooms in the house by running cables between wall covers then plug Ethernet cables from the router into the slots by it. Do I really need to worry about ground since I'm really just running essentially a long cable from the router to the other rooms? If that makes sense.

[tame carbon]

wat

[tame carbon]

@waxen saddle https://mikrotik.com/products/group/iot-products

The LR-X kits are basically radio, antenna, power supply and IP gateway in a box

and it doubles as a router technically

all you really need is their antenna, some wire to connect it

and a box with a https://mikrotik.com/product/r11e_lr9

one of these

[waxen scroll]

@hollow marlin found another one. "Senior Network Tech Engineer"

[waxen saddle]

Cat6a connectors should be metal, and you wrap the grounding wire around it. They are a little different than cat5 connectors. The wall plate is irrelevant to grounding.

[hollow marlin]

I guess if you are in NOC long enough 🤷‍♂️

[hot hawk]

Anyone knows how to setup a dhcp server on openwrt, because my current dhcp server on open wrt doesn't seem to be working

[quick summit]

where can I get asus heatsink plate? DM me please 🙂

[waxen scroll]

...for network equipment?

[waxen scroll]

Cisco uses coolermaster

[hot hawk]

any heat sink and a zip tie works

[dark crow]

@tame carbon I'm on a different network and is now im doing tracery again

How do I know if its cg nat or not

[tame carbon]

by looking at the address ranges of the routers you are passing along

[dark crow]

So if they are all 171 for example

Is that cgnat

[tame carbon]

there's a couple ranges

172.16.0.0 is one of them

[dark crow]

The one I'm seeing in 151

.248

[tame carbon]

I need to see the whole trace

[vale reef]

should I get meraki, mikrotik, unifi or something else for my new switch (poe, sfp+)

[dark crow]

Which are 8 9 10 in the tracert

2 3 4 5 6 7 say request timed out

[tame carbon]

idk then

check your WAN address on your router.

if it corresponds to your public IP, then you have a direct address and no NAT

@vale reef I'd favor mikrotik myself

[vale reef]

Ok

[tame carbon]

mostly because I know how to wrangle RouterOS

[tame carbon]

@dark crow yeah something there is blocking ICMP, I need to know those addresses or I cant tell you

[dark crow]

I'm trying it again

And it still says request timed out

[peak cloak]

what's the WAN interface ip on the router

[dark crow]

How do I find that

[tame carbon]

http://192.168.8.1/

[peak cloak]

log into router, should be in main page

or info

look something like WAN IP

[dark crow]

Got it

[peak cloak]

you found it?

what are the first 2 octets

[tame carbon]

wait for it

[dark crow]

Ok wait

I can't find it

The WiFi settings look too user friendly

[peak cloak]

what router

[dark crow]

It a Huawei 5G router

[peak cloak]

what model

[dark crow]

The hardware version

??

[peak cloak]

the model

of the router

"Huawei 5G" tells me little

[dark crow]

What

Wait

I found the wan ip

It corresponds to my public ip

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak finished the survey and made a price indication in equipment lol

https://i.imgur.com/KSwBmqZ.png

Lots of PoE

@tender hazel I decided to completely avoid PoE injectors

It'll reduce wire-cluttering in the electric box

[tender hazel]

ok

[tame carbon]

and less points of failure

[tender hazel]

yes

[peak cloak]

nice

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak supposedly, they only want to start with indoors

so they only really need the router, switch, and a couple hAPs to cover the interior

[worn igloo]

is a switch or dock better

[peak cloak]

dock?

what's that

[tame carbon]

@worn igloo wat ?

[worn igloo]

so.eone once told me to get a dock

I was wanting to use more eathernet in my room than the one I have from my router

[peak cloak]

no such thing as a dock as a networking device

@worn igloo show link

to what you are getting

[worn igloo]

idk what I'm getting ywt

yet

[peak cloak]

@worn igloo what's a dock

https://tenor.com/view/fat-kid-confused-eat-gif-11231444

[worn igloo]

that's what i was told by a friend

[peak cloak]

but what is it

because a dock is what is used to connect a laptop kinda to extend it's capabilites

a switch is a networking device

and a switch is what you want

not a dock

[worn igloo]

ok what's a good one that has like 6 or more outputs

[peak cloak]

usually it goes 5 -> 8

[worn igloo]

ok what's a good one with 8 lol

[peak cloak]

you don't need it to be managed?

things like VLANs?

[worn igloo]

idk what that even is. I just know I want all my devices connected to ethernet in my room and I only have one port on my router

[peak cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Splitter-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG108/dp/B00A121WN6

something like this should work

really at the entry level everything works

[worn igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S98YLHM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_T1EXEGJEXR43BK0XFJZ0?psc=1

would this work also I only need 4 as I relooked over everything

[peak cloak]

it should

boy do I hate netgears naming

it's a switch

but they say hub in the name

[clear igloo]

got to get those clicks and cover all the ad words

[worn igloo]

that's should do what I need tho?

[clear igloo]

yes

[peak cloak]

yeah

[worn igloo]

ty:)

[clear igloo]

Although for $2 more you could get the 8 port version and have some extra ports just to be safe

[worn igloo]

ok u right

u never know

so I put the input into port 8? and the rest should work as output?

[clear igloo]

yes

there isn't an input port per-say

any port works

[worn igloo]

ok

is 5ft cords about the smallest im going to find without making my own

[clear igloo]

For ethernet? no, you can get them down to 0.5ft

[worn igloo]

hmm on

[clear igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Flexboot-Ethernet-Patch-Cable/dp/B00AJHC1YM

[worn igloo]

was thinking I dont need very long ones if there going to go from the switch to my console if there all right next to eachother

[clear igloo]

yah

[worn igloo]

would it be bad if I put my consoles on the switch ?

[clear igloo]

nope

[worn igloo]

ok just trying to save space

nvm it's smaller than I thought lol

[restive hawk]

@waxen saddle then i must be confused because the cable would plug into my keystone metal connector, which I get that part but then at what point is it grounded in the system? My router in the USA only has the 2 prong plug and does not have a ground plug.

[waxen saddle]

Ideally it would ground to the switch you connect it to.

I'm not sure, but the other end may be grounded ... the device you're plugging in to the network.

[restive hawk]

I dont have a switch that I am going through, just essentially doing a sup long cable from the router to the computers in the separate rooms but running it through the wall.

[waxen saddle]

Other than that, I've never actually worried about grounding issues as I've never had them.

[restive hawk]

cause my next thought was wrapping a wire around the keystone connectors on one plate and just attaching that to a ground.

Ive been debating between going to shielded wiring at regular cat6 instead of the cat6a.

[waxen saddle]

That could work I guess - as long as in the future, if your equipment became grounded, you undo that.

[restive hawk]

*unshielded

[waxen saddle]

cat6a is rated for 10gb.

[restive hawk]

the whole reason i was looking into shielding is all the electrical and cable internet connections that run along the same area of the wall. but thanks for the advice.

I live in a condo on an end unit lol.

[waxen saddle]

oh gotchya. Yea, I'll probably want shielded then. I went with regular CAT6a for wiring my house, but I was able to route it away from power line runs for the most part.

[worn igloo]

I'm going to be safe and get a 2foot cords

[restive hawk]

do you run it through a switch?

[waxen saddle]

Yea, I have too many runs to plug directly in to a router.

[restive hawk]

ah, if there was like a 4 port switch i would probably do that but could find a super small one.

and have limited space.

[worn igloo]

dose it matter what eathernet cord I get

[clear igloo]

So long as it's not CCA cable or cheap $0.10 junk not really, Cat5e is good for up to 2.5GbE and Cat6 can do up to 10Gbps (limited to 55m at that speed though but 100m for lower speed)

[worn igloo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KWS7O5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_DC0E3S0X7SFXT9H025VG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 so this should be good to use on my 150mb down speeds?

[clear igloo]

yah, plenty

[worn igloo]

ty

[plucky crescent]

Anyone know if it's really a good idea to disable Nagle for gaming, or if it's gonna make life a trash heap without it?

[robust plinth]

Why not disable and test it for yourself.

[plucky crescent]

I prefer to get info from those more knowledgeable before I touch my registry

[hot hawk]

any help, openwrt dhcp server not giving out any dhcp leases

wait nvm it is

just no internet

[robust plinth]

It depend on your internet, hard to recommend or say without testing it. Will it break things?? No, will it maybe stop small packages from being slow down sure. Will it give you 5 ping vs 100ping no.

[hot hawk]

here are the current settings

openwrt router is connected to a NETGEAR c620 wifi modem combo

router mode is turned on but its dhcp server is turned off (its default gateway is 192.168.0.1)

its lan to lan

[peak cloak]

no wonder

openwrt is not getting an ip

[hot hawk]

wdym

also i think i fixed it

had to enable Masquerading in the lan firewall

autho my phone still cant connect to the internet

but at least devices connected over ethernet are fine

[hollow marlin]

@waxen scroll A thread I think you would have some good input on https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/n236l5/the_purple_elephant_in_the_magic_quandrant_am_i/

[hot hawk]

@peak cloak also the router can access the internet just fine

[peak cloak]

oh ok

[hot hawk]

im trying to get openwrt to handle giving ips thru dhcp

it is able to assign ips when i connect to my network

it just doesnt provide an internet connection

not sure if these firewall settings are correct

[plucky crescent]

Is it typical for updating network drivers to reset you from static to DHCP?

I didn't used to run static IP, so I'm wondering if that's the cause.

[hot hawk]

for windows, it seems to defualt to dhcp

from my experience

[mental ore]

Is there a way to find out an estimated time when starlink is going to be available in my area?

[tame carbon]

starlink

[distant wedge]

When you popped your address into the website, if it said mid to late 2021, you'll probably start seeing it around July or August. Otherwise, several other people have been waitlisted due to manufacturing constraints. Musk is trying to build a factory out in Texas to manufacture more starlink hardware. No idea what the ETA is on that, but keep checking back if you haven't already done so

[waxen scroll]

meanwhile ive been trying to get a 5950X since november and cant

[distant wedge]

F

[waxen scroll]

yep

the whole PC is built and I cant even turn it on

all parts are past the return windows

[tender hazel]

@waxen scroll you should use nowinstock.net

they have this telegram notification that lets you know when things appear and if you click on it and buy it right away you can end up getting it

I was able to get an RTX 3070 early this year, as well as a PS5, both because of the nowinstock notifications

[ornate salmon]

hi I'm back at it again with the 66 block

this time with a real punch down tool

and it turns out

I have more data drops in my apartment than are terminated to the block

last time, I thought one outlet was fake, but I just discovered that actually it's not

and that the outlet I was trying to use might actually not be terminated to the block

🤔

the dream may still be alive

also having a real punch down tool makes it less nightmarish to test things

[trim rose]

What is better for gaming ipv4 or ipv6?

[clear igloo]

It makes, in most cases, zero difference

[trim rose]

o

Ok bc my router has been dying

And it says ipv6 is not working

[clear igloo]

There are very few sites and services that are IPv6 only these days so having both or just IPv4 is fine for now

[trim rose]

It's weird

It says my 5ghz wifi is working

But when I use it it's not

[clear igloo]

Definitely sounds like the router is on its way out

[trim rose]

rip

That sucks

The 2.4ghz band is sooooo slow

What ipv6 wan configuration should I be using?

1. None
2. Dhcpv6-pd
3. Static (auto configure)
4. Static (manually configure)

[clear igloo]

Depends on your provider but generally DHCPv6-pd would be best unless they told you to use static

[trim rose]

kk

i fixed it

but is this normal?

[clear igloo]

That does not seem normal

Unless you've got something downloading elsewhere on your network

[trim rose]

nope

ok it's back to normal now

[clear igloo]

Wireless?

[trim rose]

yes

[clear igloo]

Ah, could be interference or something during the test

[trim rose]

yea i rebooted it

so a lot of devices connected at the same time

[clear igloo]

probably it

[waxen scroll]

*whispers: LTTstore.com

[waxen scroll]

bro i cant even get one damn company past some sort of ipv6 POC

[clear igloo]

water bottles!

[thorny viper]

😅

[stoic sorrel]

I have an Acer USB type c iii docking station I found in my house, so I connected it up and realised it had gigabit ethernet .

I found an ethernet cable and plugged it in, and nothing happened

How do I fix this (yes I checked the docking station was on)

[eternal rivet]

so i want to get ethernet but my modem is so far away , i found this little wifi brand plug thing with an ethernet port so i connected it to my pc

and this is happening

[void heart]

is this good

[slow sparrow]

depends for what you use it

for gaming and streaming, it should be fine, as long as you're not a sweat/pro

[peak cloak]

Its still wifi

Will make little difference

[peak cloak]

Yeah, those are just status lights. They flash when there is activity

[dreamy pecan]

So i cant see if this text on my ethernet cable says cat 5 or cat 6, but it says 250mhz would that guarantee a cat6?

[waxen scroll]

it says 6

[dreamy pecan]

Alright thanks my eyesight is terrible and i second guess it

[waxen scroll]

i zoomed in. i cant tell at the size discord has it at

[dreamy pecan]

Thank you

[ashen needle]

can anyone help me understand IP routing tables? Basically I have 2 gateways (1 physical one that is connected by an ethernet cable) and 1 virtual (provided by openvpn)

I want internet traffic to be routed thru enp6s0 (physical ethernet port) by default, and thru tun0 (openVPN) if explicitly requested

so curl google.com would go thru enp6s0, curl ipinfo.io --interface tun0 would go thru tun0

turns out im just not smart and it requires root the second curl command works

but how do i make it not require root

any way I ccan make it not require root?

[waxen scroll]

Use sudo?

[ashen needle]

i'm trying to route bittorrent thru tun0 is the end goal here. I dont want to run qbittorrent as root as I have the web UI enabled and thats a massive security concern

i need tun0 to be useable by non root users

[tender hazel]

@ashen needle https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37199695/so-bindtodevice-with-curl-interface-or-curlopt-interface

[ashen needle]

this is a different issue. it works perfectly for anything running as root and not at all for anything not running as root

[tender hazel]

@ashen needle I think it is the same issue

[normal urchin]

im trying out truenas for the first time and am a little confused as to why im getting 10gb speeds when its filling up the ram even though its plugged into a 1gigabit port

[lone sun]

🤨 Why would network speed fill up your system ram? Odd. 😕

[normal urchin]

on the truenas system

it fills up the ram then goes down to gigabit speeds

i assume its using it as a write cache

[cedar igloo]

Anyone know of any documentation or videos around using a /23 network (or lower) in pfSense?

I don't want to have tens of interfaces or vlans in pfSense, so would be easier to maintain if I could set a single network to cover 10.0.0.0-10.0.1.0 for example

[tame carbon]

@cedar igloo how many devices do you have?

because you can just use a /23

@cedar igloo https://i.imgur.com/JWlcUWS.png

@cedar igloo if you have lots of devices, you get more broadcast noise

'background noise'

vlans seperate this broadcast domain

Not sure how exactly, but you could do something like multiple /24's

and each vlan has its own address, so vlan 1 = 192.168.1.0/24

vlan 2 = 192.168.2.0/24

254 devices on a network is a lot

it may reduce full gigabit throughput through the router

[cedar igloo]

When I tried it on pfSense, the devices on the second net wouldn't communicate to the gateway. Is there a gateway on each? E.g 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.1.1 on a 10.0.0.0/23 network? Or does it all use 10.0.0.1?

[clear igloo]

Each subnet has its own gateway

[cedar igloo]

Ok. I'm not too worried about performance or background noise. This is just for convenience in a lab

[cedar igloo]

This is what I have at the minute, but I am messing around with very large clustered deployments (300+ nodes) and it's getting a bit more difficult managing all the networks individually

[rain arrow]

hi

looking into updating my current cable modem. i read some issues with this "puma" chipsets. does the TC4400 modem have this chipse? how is this modem. thank you.

[clear igloo]

@rain arrow No, docsis 3.1 modems aren't impacted

[rain arrow]

ok that is good to know.

i have an ancient modem (more than 10 years old)

my router is the N600

they should work okay together?

[clear igloo]

Yah, the router is pretty old but it will work fine

[rain arrow]

i believe it supports up toa max of 300MB/s?

[clear igloo]

sounds about right (Mb/s)

[rain arrow]

thank you