networking

[thick minnow]

hey guys looking to get new mobo, and some of them offer 1gb intel, 2.5gb intel, 10gb aquantia etc

any benifits? ive read some things on reddit saying intel 2.5g is trash

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow 2.5G is gapfiller tech

not worth using

very little equipment has 2.5G interfaces

most step up to 10G immediately

@thick minnow and there's not much wrong with intel chips

generally their network controllers are very reliable

[thick minnow]

I'm not sure specifically what was bad just saw comments to do with motherboard revisions, driver versions or something for the 2.5gb varients

[tame carbon]

maybe on windows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick minnow]

ahah likely

im looking at auorus master vs strix-e boards, leaning towards aurous

z590

[thick minnow]

Um WHAT 😃😃

[formal lily]

How can I have multiple pc’s in different states have the same ip, at the moment I have a vps with openvpn and I am able to have 2 connections but without paying I can’t have 3 and lowest I can do is 10 connections. Any other options?

[peak cloak]

you can't have multiple devices have the same IP

what you can do is have a NATed connection with 1 IP and port forward different ports to different PCs

also

what vps provider limits your connections?

sounds really bad

[formal lily]

Open vpn with there free license only 2 connections at once, vps is not limiting connections

[peak cloak]

no?

[formal lily]

?

[peak cloak]

it's opensource

why would it have limits

https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn

[formal lily]

Is it openvpn cloud then cause since it said on there free license only 2 connections since it’s going through my vps it could have no limit then I may be just dumb just haven’t had the chance to test it and never looked at it again

[peak cloak]

how did you install openvpn on your vps?

[formal lily]

https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

It’s all good I made a 3rd config later today when I can get it tested I’ll see if I can get all 3 connections to the vpn

[peak cloak]

that installer looks fine

[peak cloak]

oh you didn't try a 3rd client yet?

[formal lily]

No

I’ve only read and heard from videos that with a free openvpn license you can only run 2 connections at once I’m guessing like me they all read it from the website and I’m guessing now that it’s for there cloud service where they set up the vps for you

[peak cloak]

yeah

that's how they make their money

because you have this: (self hosted) https://openvpn.net/vpn-software-packages/

and then this https://openvpn.net/cloud-vpn/

[formal lily]

Yeah

yup its working just the way they have it worded its only for there "cloud" system so when wathcing videos and reading on how to set it up yourself it confuses you thansk for the help

[thorn stratus]

Do you guys have recommendations for a good usb wifi card?

[tame carbon]

@formal lily use wireguard.

Its open source and free to use

https://www.wireguard.com/

[formal lily]

I had problems setting up wiregaurd on the vps just couldn’t get it to work

[tame carbon]

problems that can easily be solved

wireguard is faster than openvpn, by a longshot

[formal lily]

Well they weren’t easily solved so I dropped it

[tame carbon]

I'm using L2TP/IPsec myself, hoping to switch to wireguard soon

[thick minnow]

https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

[tame carbon]

installing WG by hand isnt that difficult either

apt install wireguard

[peak cloak]

well installing it isn't

setting it up is kinda different

it's not like where you just have a server, you need to setup a new client config on the server as well

[thick minnow]

This is a setup script, not just installation

[formal lily]

Is is the same just set it up and then grab the config files and put them into the wiregaurd client?

[thick minnow]

Yup

except it'll be .conf instead of .ovpn

and it's be in the root directory

so you might have to chown

and then mv

[formal lily]

No clue I’m fairly new to linux just have ovpn and then a diff one running xrdp

[thick minnow]

well, basically same thing

just a different place

[tame carbon]

openvpn is the old & busted

wireguard is the new hotness

[formal lily]

I mean openvpn do be looking better😂

[tame carbon]

its a headless program

what does looks have to do with performance? xD

[formal lily]

😂

So chown is like chmod but not chmod

[thick minnow]

well, yea

[tame carbon]

chown = change ownership

chmod = change file mode

file modes are permissions, such as read or write, or execute

usually represented as a number

but if you just want to add execute permissions you can also just do chmod +x file.sh

there's handy cheatsheets out there

but the number is the permission, and then its USER, GROUP, EVERYONE_ELSE

so 7 is read/write/execute, and 777 would be rwx for all ^

[peak cloak]

I mean you don't even need to remember the numbers anymore

[tame carbon]

1 read, 2 is write, 4 is execute

any combinations of those, you just add the numbers

so read & execute is 5

read and write is 3

[peak cloak]

chomod o=rwx

alternative format

o = owner

[formal lily]

I’m so confused to be honest not really sure what I’m looking at anymore 😅

[tame carbon]

@formal lily if you do ls -al

@formal lily that lists all the files, including the permissions

usually written like rwx-rwx-rwx

read write execute

@formal lily the reason this seems a bit strange

is because windows doesnt have file permissions

https://i.imgur.com/lHpbsvF.png

[peak cloak]

it does though

[formal lily]

Right?

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak NTFS doesn't.

[peak cloak]

it does?

[tame carbon]

@peak cloakin all my years

I've never seen this on windows

Windows enforces this through explorer

not the filesystem driver

thats why if you mount an NTFS partition on another operating system, it'll just have 777 permissions on all

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak your own source says I am right

(by the use of access control lists)

These are not handled by the filesystem driver

NTFS doesnt have discrete user/group/everyone file permissions like all the other unix filesystems do

[peak cloak]

well yeah

[formal lily]

Honestly linux is just more confusing because it’s a lot less visuals I need pictures and colors🙂

[peak cloak]

well yeah the Desktop Enviroment and the OS is completly seperate

so you can do everything you need to in cli

[formal lily]

Yeah

I mean cli is comfortable at times but a lot of it if you don’t do research is confusing

Like originally for me to just get xrdp to work on my other server took me a few hours I want to say 😂

[peak cloak]

idk, xrdp was really easy for me to setup

[formal lily]

I was struggling had issues with xrdp just not working at all and then not being able to remote in actually don’t even remember what fixed it

I don’t know but after I got it working the first time haven’t had issues since

Just magically making it work

I think a part of it was just windows being dumb didn’t want to port forward properly if I’m not wrong

[sturdy knoll]

If anyone here knows about unraid please dm me I need help

[tame carbon]

@formal lily I came into linux from a server background

[peak cloak]

what's the issue

[tame carbon]

using it on a laptop only is different in 1 regard

your default shell is now a graphical shell

@peak cloak people in #public-chat have no idea lol, they criticise it for "looking bad"

[peak cloak]

linux?

[tame carbon]

even though its a friggen kernel/OS

yes

[peak cloak]

ah yeah because how it looks is the most important

[tame carbon]

Ofcourse

[peak cloak]

Plasma actually looks good

[tame carbon]

plasma isnt linux lol

you could as well run it on GNU/Hurd

[peak cloak]

well yeah

ik

it's a DE

never heard of HURD

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak GNU project had their own kernel in development

they worked on the compiler and GNU core utils first

and when linux came out, they just combined the two and that became the de-facto

[sturdy knoll]

@peak cloak I’m getting noVNC in the qemu and the send ctrl alt del function isn’t working

[peak cloak]

your not even in the OS

just in UEFI shell

CTRL - ALT- Delete won't do anything iirc

[sturdy knoll]

The videos I’ve been watching say that if I do that it should take me to the OS

[peak cloak]

your in UEFI shell you need to choose what to boot

[sturdy knoll]

How do I do that and what do I choose? Also can we take this to dms?

[peak cloak]

why to dms

[peak cloak]

no clue

[tame carbon]

so he can ask you for your mother's maiden name

[sturdy knoll]

So we don’t fill this channel with my stupidity

[tame carbon]

I expect nothing less

why you think I subscribe to this place

[sturdy knoll]

*more of my stupidity

Well let’s back peddle a sec here, my vm is started, what should I do now

[peak cloak]

did you install the OS

[sturdy knoll]

Yes

[peak cloak]

it should automatically boot

[peak cloak]

how?

did you mount the windows installer ISO?

[elder leaf]

How to get low ping in esp games via WiFi?

[tame carbon]

dont use wifi

[peak cloak]

hmm

it should boot into the iso

but unraid can be weird

it may look nice but I heard the backend is glued together

[elder leaf]

It’s not safe to use lan as lightning hits the ground mostly in rainy days and voltage fluctuates a lot

[tame carbon]

@elder leaf network interfaces are optically isolated.

@elder leaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opto-isolator

[peak cloak]

are you running the cable outside?

[sturdy knoll]

@peak cloak The videos have me go into the VNC remote then pass through ctrl alt del which takes me to the OS but that’s not working for me

[peak cloak]

no clue about unraid

it's a waste of money for me

[elder leaf]

What do u mean? @peak cloak

[tame carbon]

Lightning as an excuse to use wireless, that's a first.

[sturdy knoll]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMBf_s74oE.

4:50

[peak cloak]

huh

[sturdy knoll]

That’s what I get

[peak cloak]

so it's working

just not booting

no clue

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak system is not loading the EFI boot partition

and instead just popping up a shell

system isnt installed properly.

[peak cloak]

but that's a windows VM

[tame carbon]

Change VM settings to use legacy BIOS

and dont bother with EFI

you dont need this in a VM anyways

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon where would that b

[tame carbon]

vm settings in the hypervisor

[sturdy knoll]

Hyper-v?

Set that to no?

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll im not too familair with proxmox

HyperV is something else

[tame carbon]

Disable that

and then change BIOS to Legacy

instead of OVMF

[sturdy knoll]

It’s not clickable

I can’t change it, is there something else I have to change to be able to change it?

[tame carbon]

I don't know :/

[sturdy knoll]

😢

[tame carbon]

wait

this is unraid, not proxmox

lol, go bother unraid support

its their OS

They probably have a guide on how to do this

and you just missed something obvious

[sturdy knoll]

Lol k

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll what you are seeing in there

with those warning messages on boot

thats the bios trying to load the firmware on the boot partition of your installation

but cannot find it

and.. I know how this is setup on linux.. just not sure how windows does it

@peak cloak any ideas on how windows even enrolls keys for EFI?

[peak cloak]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll can you enter text into that shell?

like

type the word exit and press enter

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon that did a thing

[tame carbon]

go to continue

and then press enter

use arrow keys

[tame carbon]

I think you created a windows installation

[sturdy knoll]

Back there again

[tame carbon]

without UEFI

and your VM is running with EFI enabled

create a new virtual machine

this time

when you choose wat version

select SeaBIOS

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon it gives me this now

[peak cloak]

yep

hmm

what VM settings does unRaid have?

[sturdy knoll]

Unfortunately I gtg now I’ll b back in roughly 3 hrs tho

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak they probably didnt install as UEFI

but booted with EFI anyways

and the 2nd vm he created

forgot to assign the virtual storage

@sturdy knoll ^

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge muh shellys got new firmware

👀

so far the disconnect problem has stopped

gotta watch it a few more days

its telling HA its status every 10sec now verus HA polling it every 30+

[warped storm]

Omg I changed the cable and it worked fine

[tame carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDK2iLQMZlg
🤣

how 2 social engineer

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon what would I enable or whatever and where

[tame carbon]

have you worked with virtual machines before?

because the stuff I saw so far are all rookie mistakes

First, you had an OS installed without EFI, trying to boot it with EFI

and the 2nd vm you created, you never installed an OS on it, or assigned a virtual drive

[spice gust]

@tame carbon

[sturdy knoll]

No I haven’t this is my first time

[spice gust]

This why I can’t play my game

IPv6 has no internet acces

Can anyone help

[peak cloak]

do ipconfig /all

[spice gust]

In cmd

Right

[peak cloak]

yeah

[spice gust]

Do you need a pic

I did it

[peak cloak]

yes

[spice gust]

@peak cloak

[peak cloak]

yeah

you don't have a global v6 address

only link-local

[spice gust]

Oh

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon so how do I install the OS with efi

[spice gust]

Is that why I have issues

[peak cloak]

yeah

[spice gust]

How do I enable that

[peak cloak]

you need a public/global v6 ip

your isp needs to have v6

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll you don't need to

@sturdy knoll just create a virtual machine with SeaBIOS instead of OVMF

[spice gust]

@peak cloak how come my game used to work

But now it doesn’t

[peak cloak]

what does your game need to do with v6?

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll this is just motherboard bios emulation mode. And windows doesnt like OVMF all that much apparently

[spice gust]

I play cod

And o get disconnected from the servers

[tame carbon]

so you can use SeaBIOS which is just a legacy emulation of the bios

[spice gust]

Yet my friends play on pc and they are fine

Hello?

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon so I’m remaking the vm with SeaBIOS is this good?

[spice gust]

@peak cloak

[peak cloak]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's not v6 related

[spice gust]

Oh

Argh why is it always my game

😤

[waxen saddle]

Are you using any kind of VPN? A lot of server hosts will auto-kick players who use a VPN.

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll wtf is this
https://i.imgur.com/DH5RRQO.png

you got the paravirtual drivers, ok

but why is that also your OS install ISO? that doesnt make sense

that should be your windows install ISO

why are there two vDisks

@sturdy knoll if you have dedicated storage you can also just use sata passthrough

that's easier than with VirtIO

[sturdy knoll]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMBf_s74oE

2:30

I was just following the guide

And I have 3hdd and 3 ssd 1 of each for each vm

[spice gust]

Not using vpn

Pls help

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll so that tutorial seems pretty clear no?

you press the button

and it reboots

you even got to the same screen

pretty sure you just didnt do it right

those settings he configured did make sense

and you just had to reboot out of the EFI shell with that button

OVMF wasnt the problem then.

[sturdy knoll]

Yeah I followed the tutorial just the ctrl alt del doesn’t work for me

And idk why or how to fix it

[sturdy knoll]

Any suggestions?

[lone sun]

I see 🤔

[formal lily]

okay wiregaurd is miles better😂

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon i think i found the issue and its that the windows install isnt where its supposed to be but i dont know how to get it where it needs to be

it needs to be here -> /mnt/user/ISOs but it is located here -> \TOWER\ISOs

if anybody is able to help me move the files please @ me i cant find the destination path

[bitter trout]

i would be shocked if activision even ran servers that used IPv6 addressing

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll \TOWER\ looks like a windows path :P

@sturdy knoll the ISO is only used to install the operating system to a vDisk

the vDisk is a file on your host, that represents the storage devices for your virtual machine.

to the virtual machine these just appear as SATA or in your case VirtIO storage devices

@sturdy knoll for ctrl alt delete, the virtual machine viewer usually has some shortcut or command to send the three finger salute

you can't do it any other way, as this key combination usually raises an interrupt on the host/client OS, not the guest.

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge @clear igloo @hollow marlin https://twitter.com/superdealloc/status/1376626243865604100

André Medeiros (@superdealloc)

Hey @Ubiquiti, why are you pushing ads on the management interface for hardware I bought outright?

Retweets

151

Likes

598

Twitter · Mar 29, 2021, 8:04 PM

👀

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll is not and add is more like a new look

[waxen scroll]

its randomly generated class names too!

no adblock pls

[tame carbon]

brilliant

[waxen scroll]

so they cant play ignorant here

thats a damn ad

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll pick your poison

^ consumer edition

[waxen scroll]

those are removable tho

[tame carbon]

are they?

[waxen scroll]

right click, remove

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll idk when they changed it, but back then when I removed candy crush, it would reinstall itself after a reboot

I actually ripped out a bunch of windows store DLL's to make it stop

just delete important libraries it needs, so it cannot reinstall itself

@waxen scroll PR manager for UB has a fun day ahead

bunch of people on twitter posting that they were considering, and now they changed their mind

Good luck getting those customers back

[hollow marlin]

WTF

this is not and ad but a new look

The holes they are digging themselves into over the past year, I hope they go under because ever decision is pure anti-consumer

@waxen scroll Looks like its also showing adds when a connection flaps

[waxen scroll]

OMG thats rich

[hollow marlin]

"Our bugs are rampant and causing issues, you should buy a backup that will have the same issues"

[waxen scroll]

they stopped innovating on the barely old stuff too

like edgemax has not seen a significant update in over a year

my router was up over 12 months before a minor patch came out

its still better than netgear/asus i guess

[twin zealot]

UniFi is fine

but very pricey for "normal performance"

[tame carbon]

With free adds

@hollow marlin "we've noticed your internet is bad"
who the fuck is we

this thing phoning home?

@waxen scroll enter: mikrotik

with the 5.3 kernel, they soon will be back ontop of their game

if they then ship us a series of WiFi 6 APs, I have nothing more to complain :D

[peak cloak]

urgh

I want a new router

[tame carbon]

[peak cloak]

Edgerouter lite 3 seems fine, because I'm familiar with the OS

but at the same time

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak come to the dark side

[peak cloak]

mikrotik is very appealing

[hollow marlin]

They constantly phone home. Im pretty sure many features have moved to cloud only in terms of management recently as well.

[tame carbon]

also

I just got back from job interview :D

got 'em :D

currently rolling a celebratory spliff

[waxen scroll]

finally

i was worried about you being a bum

[tame carbon]

Probably starting in May if all goes well

I'll have to see the agreement first, make sure it has no clause that might ban me from working elsewhere

stupid laws for anti-competitor

since i will be agreeing to a 7 month trial first

[hollow marlin]

Better be a job in the networking field

[tame carbon]

@hollow marlin they do java development, Consultancy and Secondments

I'll be working in-house for the forseeable future on their own technologies

in the meantime, I'll most likely get a couple trainings in some frameworks

and possibly be used as developer working for larger companies across the country

but for now, they first want to see me work inhouse, to get a better profile of my skills before they outsource me

also makes lot more money :)

but for now, just glad i got a job 10 minutes from my house

[sturdy knoll]

@tame carbon how do i get the files to the right location on the vdisk

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll I really dont know what you mean

a vdisk is like a virtual harddrive.

[sturdy knoll]

i mean how do i get the files over to /mnt/user/ISOs so i can use them

[peak cloak]

where are they now

on the unraid server?

[tame carbon]

sftp

[sturdy knoll]

the files downloaded to \TOWER\ISOs

[peak cloak]

but where is it

on the server?

because that's not a linux file path

[sturdy knoll]

idk man all ik is thats the path they downloaded to but the need to be in the other one

i am new to this and confused

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak that's probably a path to his unraid network share

[peak cloak]

ah

so I think I will go for the HEX S

although the second hand market isn't that big

will be asking mikrotik questions probobly in the next few days

[tame carbon]

@sturdy knoll you copied the installation ISO for windows 10 to your unraid machine right?

[sturdy knoll]

i do believe so

[tame carbon]

Using that \TOWER\ network share

Yeah, so that is mapped to a directory on your server somewhere

You provide this iso via a cd drive to the virtual machine, so that you can run the windows installer

ISOs are disk images basically.

This installer installs to the vdisk

And after the installation you remove this windows install ISO and reboot the vm to launch into windows

This ^ procedure is pretty much the same on all hypervisors

Be it vmware, qemu/kvm or xen

Unraid uses kvm/qemu as far as I know

[sturdy knoll]

okay so what should i do

[tame carbon]

I just told you

[sturdy knoll]

could you dumb it WAAAAY down for me cuz i dont understand what u said

[burnt epoch]

For Synology NAS's, is it possible to use an empty bay and a SATA SSD for caching? (as opposed to the M.2 slot method)
[@ or reply so I can see message]

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak so I fixed that part of the issue

apparently unraid does some magic with their network shares

and I have no idea where its located on disk

so I used sftp to download it from the share , and then upload it to the host xD

but they want to have GPU passthrough ultimately

I wish them all the best

[peak cloak]

oh

it's qemu/kvm but still

unraid weirdness

[hollow marlin]

@waxen scroll @tame carbon @peak cloak Oh hey, lets keep this Ubi train going https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/mgn3uy/whistleblower_ubiquiti_breach_catastrophic/

[tame carbon]

the gift that keeps on giving

[peak cloak]

no one could ever see this coming right?

lol

cloud managed devices

[tame carbon]

wait

december 2020?

that's like 4 months ago

[hollow marlin]

Doesn't release known break, proceeds to install ads on their dashboard to buy more equipment.

[waxen scroll]

I've been getting tons of sms spam this year

Maybe from that idk

I don't click the links so I don't know what they're trying to do

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll its call phishing for a reason

in a sample size of a million

[waxen scroll]

idk if its that. if it is, its low effort

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll there's like sms pretending there's some package waiting for you

[tame carbon]

yeah all of them try to get you on their site, to fill out some kind of fake form

to steal creds

its all scams

[waxen scroll]

im amazed just how bad google is at pre-filtering spams

[tame carbon]

?

[waxen scroll]

the tech on the actual phone is OK at detecting but why are the non-tech company major carriers able to remove 99% of this stuff before it goes to the phone and google cant

google is my carrier

[tame carbon]

lol

ok

I was already wondering

like the fuck does google have to do with sms

[waxen scroll]

google is a carrier that runs off tmobile/sprint/uscc towers

i use it cause its dirt cheap. ive saved so much freaking money

used it overseas many times too and it just works

[tame carbon]

Im on vodafone

their EU network is quite good

I get ~20-40mbit worst case

and 70mbit best case

and they are one of the few carriers where you can just dial the service number

and get an operator on line within 30 seconds

[waxen scroll]

I save $720/yr over other carriers

^_^

[tame carbon]

I pay like

35 bucks

for unlimited calls europe wide

[left charm]

I don't pay

[waxen scroll]

yeah mines 35

[tame carbon]

and 40GB data

[left charm]

I have unlimited

And I still don't pay

Jk

Cya

[tame carbon]

spam

[light tinsel]

LOL i was just about to post about the ubiquiti stuff just now

😂

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/

i hope EVERYONE changes their password now

i wonder what's going on in the ubiquiti discord...

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll geez

the unifi community is a bunch of people with thumbs up their asses

[peak cloak]

how?

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/RyN04E8.png

they laugh.

@peak cloak lol I come in

and first thing I see in multiple channels

is people still trash talking over other brands

welcome to soviet union

[peak cloak]

lol

I have a unifi controller setup for my one switch

but it's all local

no cloud

[tame carbon]

quarantine that stuff

[peak cloak]

true true

[tame carbon]

put a 10m perimeter around it

no fiber in or out

[peak cloak]

tbh my managment vlan doesn't need internet access

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak what's the purpose of that hex S?

[peak cloak]

I'm getting one

[tame carbon]

wat for

testing ?

[peak cloak]

to replace the ER-X

[tame carbon]

that thing looks tiny

is that a 4 port router?

[peak cloak]

5 port

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak I mean, unless you don't have 10G plans, that hex S is fine

RB4011 would be a bit more futureproof for a homelab

[peak cloak]

eh, I don't need much

[tame carbon]

and it has rackmount xD

[peak cloak]

if there was something between the HEX S and RB4011 that would be great

[tame carbon]

3011

https://mikrotik.com/product/RB3011UiAS-RM

[peak cloak]

I guess

still bit pricey

[tame carbon]

but it has a display 🤣

[peak cloak]

eh

HEX S will be fine for me

[tame carbon]

yeah

its better than the 2011

the 3011 is like a slower variant of the 4011 with more connectivity

[peak cloak]

want the SFP to connect my switch

[tame carbon]

the router does come in plastic package

but its got that dark grey, I quite like that

the hex lite I have that does the vlan tagging for the cameras

it only has 100M ports

its white and ugly xD

but it gets job done

[peak cloak]

oh yeah

[waxen scroll]

thumbs up their ass how? apologizing ?

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll doubling down and laughing at mtik

I came in

and I did thumbsup on this post:

@waxen scroll https://i.imgur.com/mSKyMFQ.png

[waxen scroll]

😛

[tame carbon]

@rocky badge you spy

[rocky badge]

you started it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow marlin]

I like how they are saying Unifi is better outside home use. SMB, ok, small to medium enterprise...lol..OK..

[rocky badge]

100% of the users in there would disagree

most of the people in there are using UniFi for small business & home

none of them are using them in an enterprise

Some deploy Meraki gear, some deploy Juniper, some deploy Cisco

But they're just using UniFi at home

[tame carbon]

if they want softwar

they softwar they shall have

prepare my armor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI_7os2V_o

[hollow marlin]

Id recommend Sophos before Id ever recommend throwing Unifi in a SMB.

[tame carbon]

@rocky badge so wait, did I stumble on the right channel right away?

[rocky badge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

UTB is the main chat really

The others are topic specific

[tame carbon]

@rocky badge I didnt even realize it was you

until you sent that screenshot over there

[rocky badge]

lol

[tame carbon]

and I was like, wait a sec, who in LTT

would also frequent that place

servers in common

Eero, lol amazon?

didnt even know they existed

I would create a new company

and just sell a machine called a NAT in a Box

[clear igloo]

Well Amazon might do that soon

[tame carbon]

like the entry bar for "router"

is so low

it just has to do IP

and NAT

[clear igloo]

True

[tame carbon]

and some old version of dhcpd

you hire some cheap uni interns

[clear igloo]

I'm curious to see how their new announcement of moving away from Broadcom plays out in the next few years

[tame carbon]

whip up an angular web interface that forces a redirect to nat.in.a.box and will error out otherwise

in true asus spirit

[clear igloo]

haha, toss in some RGB for gamer measures

[tame carbon]

and include a packet of tinfoil

for the uninitiated

[peak cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Blocking-Faraday-Technology-Universal/dp/B0814BYHV6

[tame carbon]

is that what you use to ghost your ex?

[peak cloak]

lol

[tame carbon]

also wait

they recommend putting the router in there

[clear igloo]

people no smart

[peak cloak]

yes...

that's the point

[tame carbon]

LOL. what is this bs

https://i.imgur.com/oTnsYrd.png

[clear igloo]

yup, and then people complain the signal degrades XD

[tame carbon]

"Flimsy" ok .

Can lower internet speed, lmao ok sure

[peak cloak]

of course lol

[tame carbon]

Yeah but it must be one of those other brands then

it says it doesnt do that

I'm surprised it works

wouldnt it need to be grounded for maximum effect?

and who tf is this guy https://i.imgur.com/FpEUUp1.png

do I get him for free?

lol props. https://i.imgur.com/sw4LJ6r.jpg

never forget

@peak cloak lol the idea of putting your coax ONT in a faraday cage isnt actually the craziest idea

but I'd do it for other reasons

friend of mine had issues with his line, and I suggested he'd use a UPS to power the modem

and it solved the problems

[waxen scroll]

yep

i had a friend with a house that would eat GPUs once every 2 years or so

evga warranty FTW

then he put on a UPS

[peak cloak]

I should get a ups

expensive though

[waxen scroll]

get a non UPS

home theater power filter

which is funny cause my non-UPS is more expensive than a basic UPS

filters for dayz

[untold elbow]

whats a non-UPS

is that just an interruptable power supply?

[waxen scroll]

https://www.panamax.com/product/mr4300-power-management/

stuff like that

[untold elbow]

interesting

[waxen scroll]

its kind of like a UPS just no battery backup

its for filtering higher amp stuff like audio systems, etc

[untold elbow]

that makes sense. i'm not a big audio nerd

but i know that stuff gets real fancy and real expensive real quick

[waxen scroll]

you can get basic ones for $60-80 too but I think at that point a basic UPS is 120 or so

if you add a battery to this thing it goes from $200 -> $500 easy lol

i dont need a battery for my tv

if the powers out so is the internet

[peak cloak]

I mean I would want some sort of battery backup so it doesn't shutdown adruptly

[slow pivot]

@tame carbon ya get the job?

[waxen saddle]

I thought home theater equipment could handle ubrupt shutdowns? Unless it’s a projector or computer

[waxen scroll]

ubrupt shutdowns sure.... but dirty power no

or other issues like voltage spikes

a mid level home theater will run you $3000 just for audio

might as well spend the $200 and protect it from anything strange

[neon fiber]

anyone has a UDM PRO for gaming? i currently have a RT-AC86U and i'm a little disappointed in its performance. since i have so many wireless and wired devices connected to it its seems the rams is all used up. I also do a lot of upload. i'm not near max my bandwidth and lately every so often i have to reset it to clear the ram cach(i'm assuming) to be able to stream or just plain play games.

[peak cloak]

I wouldn't use ubiquiti

Lately they have been having issues

A mikrotik HEX would work just fine as a router

[neon fiber]

i was playing also to go with them for their security system.

[peak cloak]

the Dream Machine?

oh the unfi protect line

I would avoid unifi

they just got hacked and tried covering it up

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/

plus they have been showing ads in their controller software

[neon fiber]

mmm so should i just upgrade to maybe another asus like the RT-AX86U? i got 4 computers running phones and tablets as well as tvs (big family) i just find these consumer routers dont cut it when you have to many devices for a bigger family.

[peak cloak]

no asus makes pretty bad routers software side

if you want something pro, don't look for wifi and router in one

[neon fiber]

ya thats why the UDM-pro was interesting and would of slowly move to 10gbps, mainly for local data.

[peak cloak]

if you ever need 10g switching you can just get a 10gigabit switch

[neon fiber]

ya thats would of been the idea.

[peak cloak]

this is apparently a pretty good router, idk how good it is on the wifi side though https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac3

[neon fiber]

i just dont know what to get i do have money limitation like i wont spend 3000$ on a router but im willing to shell out for something good.

[peak cloak]

oh yeah 3000 is wayy to much

[neon fiber]

really my asus routers can be the acess point i just need a good router that handles the network.

[peak cloak]

this is a very popular 10g switch https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

[peak cloak]

can it be put into AP mode?

[neon fiber]

yes

[peak cloak]

cool

[neon fiber]

i got 3 rt-86u at first i wanted it in mesh mode which was utherly crap

[peak cloak]

then a hex tbh would be pretty good

[peak cloak]

yeah mesh kinda sucks

[neon fiber]

so access point with 3 seperate ssid was better lol

[peak cloak]

no

you can have 3 wired access points with the same SSID

and the client device will choose what base station to connect

[neon fiber]

ya i know irt was just easier to manage if something didnt work

[peak cloak]

this can do 2G thoughput

https://mikrotik.com/product/RB750Gr3#fndtn-testresults

pretty advanced settings

https://mikrotik.com/software

http://demo.mt.lv/

[neon fiber]

nothing with more ram? or does it barely use anyu

[peak cloak]

not really, most ram is just for dns caching

the ram though is not enough for bgp however which I'm pretty sure you don't need

[neon fiber]

does micro tik have vpn tunnels example my house to my parents ?

[peak cloak]

everything is configurable so you can customize a lot

[peak cloak]

yes many types

http://demo2.mt.lv/webfig/

you can check out the web interface here

not the prettiest in the world

[neon fiber]

something to look at this weekend.

[peak cloak]

all the different types of interfaces

anyway I gtg, you can ask here if you have any questions

[neon fiber]

all right thanks

[tender hazel]

I use an EoIP tunnel to my parents house myself.. they have a mikrotik as well

[plain siren]

Fucking ROFL

[tender hazel]

we have tons of ubiquiti gear, thankfully that doesn't affect us much if at all

because we don't have any unifi and don't have any cloud managed stuff

[thick minnow]

so im streaming with vlc from my computer to my phone

its bluray quality movies some around 30mbps

which one of these should i use?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow H264 or h265

quality settings can be adjusted after selecting the profile

[thick minnow]

i selected that and my phone didnt like it

and it just didnt work

[tame carbon]

you need a decoder chip onbaord for those codecs

[thick minnow]

the only one that actually worked that i tried was sd high for android or something

and that looked like shit

i have an Oneplus 7T Pro

and also an ipad pro 2016

[tame carbon]

You need h264 encoding for 1080p, and h265 encoding for 4k

@thick minnow those are just codec configurations

you have then also select what resolution and bitrate you want to use

[thick minnow]

which one would work for me then do you know?

[tame carbon]

^

[thick minnow]

oh ok ill search the list for that in a min

[tame carbon]

depends on what the phone can handle

but most devices have a decoder chip for h264

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding

[thick minnow]

theres no h264 option here

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow wat https://i.imgur.com/81rEkVO.png

[thick minnow]

oh omg im blind

[tame carbon]

@neon fiber what internet bandwidth have you got?

[thick minnow]

yo theres no audio?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow are you trying to convert or stream?

[thick minnow]

video works tho

stream

vlc to my phone

[tame carbon]

are you using HTTP for this?

[thick minnow]

yea

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow if that gives you bad luck

try RTSP https://i.imgur.com/s1dsl15.png

realtime streaming protocol

[thick minnow]

im not getting audio rn

[tame carbon]

I use that for my IPcams at 2k

[thick minnow]

does that count as bad luck?

[tame carbon]

nah

https://i.imgur.com/4NEZyuZ.png

you go in here ^

and then click the box "Keep original audio track"

[thick minnow]

do i click keep original video track in video?

because i realized that one is unchecked

[tame carbon]

nah, you want video transcoded don't you?

[thick minnow]

i think so yea so ok ill leave it

its mpv format files all i want is for it to work

[tame carbon]

MP4 is a container format

not a codec

MP4 just combines audio + video tracks

[thick minnow]

sorry mkv i meant

idk what format they are then

OH

[tame carbon]

MKV is another container format

[tame carbon]

Its H264 encoded

[thick minnow]

i guess that means they are h264 anyway

so should i keep video format?

[tame carbon]

in that case you can just stream it directly

[thick minnow]

is reencoding them as 264 doing anything bad tho>?

[tame carbon]

Waste of cpu cycles

@thick minnow you still may need to change the container

since MKV is poorly supported on mobile phones

[thick minnow]

It wouldn't work tho when I selected don't encode

Also I think it's broken since I enabled the audio

yes it has

'the location can not be played'

[thick minnow]

maybe its to do with this - can i realtime do this?

or do you mean change the entire video container

[tame carbon]

take the source material

tell it to stream

with MP4 over HTTP, using H264 and whatever audio track

you can use MP3 or whatever

[thick minnow]

isnt that what i have been doing?

[tame carbon]

helps if you connect with another VLC instance, instead of your phone

it gives you a bit more error info to work with

[thick minnow]

opened it on another instance

how do i check log

now i broke something somehow

wtf

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow did you select RTSP?

[thick minnow]

nah would that fix the audio issues?

[tame carbon]

no

[thick minnow]

i wanted to get all the issues fixed before i start trying other things

[tame carbon]

I was just wondering if you did, because its using http

[thick minnow]

i will deffo try rtsp just after i got it all working

ok so it works without audio

but the second i click that checkbox for keep audio it doesn't work anymore

is that to do with the mvk container or something?

and how can i fix this?

[tame carbon]

probably

then transcode the audio too

[thick minnow]

how?

because

when it was like this

i get no audio if i leave it like this

[tame carbon]

Codec

MP3

bitrate: 320kbit

samplerate: should be that of your source material

usually 44100Hz or 48000Hz

[thick minnow]

shall i just guess 44.1

omg

no way it works

[tame carbon]

because you dialed in the right settings ;^)

[thick minnow]

yea thats crazzzzt

Thaaaanks!!! 🙂

ill play it for a bit to see if it drops if i see it drop ever or be dodgy ill try out rtsp

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow RTSP has lower bandwidth requirements

it sends less keyframes

video codecs usually send a still frame picture

and then only pixel value updates

when a scene transition happens, it sends another keyframe

[thick minnow]

hmm yea might have to

i skippe dfilm forward to 10 minutes and its still at 2 for like 5 minutes

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow you can actually see this when it goes wrong

you've probably seen this before, where a video is glitched to a scene of the previous scene?

@thick minnow

This ^

that's an example of a stream, that hasn't updated with a propper keyframe

usually you see that for couple seconds, before it fixes itself

[thick minnow]

yea

also video and audio are hella unsynced

so ill try that out

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow oof. yeah synchronization is tricky

I forget how to fixthat :3

@thick minnow I ditched the whole VLC streaming stuff lol.
I just have a NAS

and stream directly from the file

[thick minnow]

how do u do this on ur phone?

i tried using a file explorer once but it wasn't the best experience

[tame carbon]

vlc for android

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc&hl=en&gl=US

it can do almost all of what the desktop version can

and I think you can map a network share in the app

[thick minnow]

thats what im using

it has a network file explorer?

how?

[tame carbon]

smb is for windows shares

[thick minnow]

is it possible to access drives ive just went right click properties enable sharing on

[tame carbon]

ye

[thick minnow]

oh so it would work ill try

[thick minnow]

how did u add a location?

im on the ...more section

and i have streams and history

[tame carbon]

go to browse

[thick minnow]

oh lol

[tame carbon]

and then click the + button

[thick minnow]

uh i have no clue what my username and pass is

im assuming thats my windows username and pass

[tame carbon]

username is your windows username

and password is the login

[thick minnow]

i use a pin to login

[tame carbon]

thats not valid

[thick minnow]

and how do i check my windows username?

[tame carbon]

-;-

stupid windows users

[thick minnow]

i think its just my name but idk if its just first or has a space

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow idk, like I just use admin

as username

but

you can check in C:\Users\

[thick minnow]

ok ive done this before ill just mess aroudn with stuff

oh is it the name on the folder in c: users?

[tame carbon]

yes

@thick minnow easiest way to see user perms for a share:

[thick minnow]

YERY

it works

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow you just do this: https://i.imgur.com/gP6MgfJ.png

and then you dont need a username

[thick minnow]

and extremely well wtf

ok ill do that too

[tame carbon]

You could set them to read only

for more security

so in my case it would be at

\\DESKTOP\Downloads

[thick minnow]

ill have a look at doing that when i get back later today

but this is great thanks

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow the step up would be KODI

[thick minnow]

also if i wanted to set this up so it would work external from the network i know thats a whole different thing but just wondering in general what would it entail?

[tame carbon]

https://kodi.tv/

[thick minnow]

kodi on my phone? wdym?

[tame carbon]

You ran run this on a pi behind a TV

and use it to stream

[thick minnow]

oh thats quite a step lol

[tame carbon]

the new pi 4 can actually decode H265

[thick minnow]

maybe in my future

[tame carbon]

so you can have 4k60 playback

which is pretty crazy for a $35 device

@thick minnow SMB across public internet is asking for trouble

you should use a VPN in that case

[thick minnow]

whats the standard way people use a nas at home over internet?

is it with a vpn?

or can i like use a website and add a login onto it i could do or something something???

[tame carbon]

VPN is the way

This way your phone or laptop would get a local IP on your home network

and can access the resources on that network

[thick minnow]

do u have to use a subscription vpn?

[tame carbon]

nah

I just run a VPN server on my router

[thick minnow]

oh thats cool how do u do that?

[tame carbon]

you press buttons

[thick minnow]

and how do u connect to it directly

is there like a certian program u use or a guide u can send me?

[tame carbon]

I use mikrotik for this

their router software can handle a wide range of VPN types

https://i.imgur.com/t9GrHuE.png

I use L2TP myself

and the android config is relatively simple

you just go to network settings and add a new VPN

select L2TP, and enter server IP and login details

and it works

still waiting for RouterOS v7 to be stable, so I can use wireguard instead

https://www.wireguard.com/

@thick minnow you could install this on a computer as well

[thick minnow]

Wait so u connect to a computer from ur phone

And e.g when I google something I'm going through my home internet

[tame carbon]

thats another option yeah

with wireguard you can specify what IP ranges it should use

if you specify 0.0.0.0/0 then all traffic will go through the VPN tunnel

@thick minnow this kinda stuff really depends on your upload speed of your internet

symetric lines are the best

if you have 20 down and 2 up

your VPN will at most be 2mbit/s

[crude tulip]

pfft kodi

real people use XBMC /s

[graceful merlin]

hi

which graphics brand should i buy?

[crude tulip]

depends

[tame carbon]

@crude tulip its the same :P

[crude tulip]

your not wrong lel

[neon fiber]

i got 100/50, which should be enough when past 7pm only 2 people use it, which is where i mainly stream and game.

[tame carbon]

@neon fiber was just wondering, because you were interested in those mikrotiks

they have wide range of devices

[peak cloak]

what would you guys recommend for learning kubernetes? k8s, k3s, microk8s?

[thick minnow]

ohh thats a good point we have 80 up 20 down so my 30mbps films prob wont work well through that unless that encoding decreases the size or something?

although actually that would drain my data anywayyyyyy

[tame carbon]

reduce the bitrate

that will increase compression, and decrease quality

[thick minnow]

of the film or can i realtime do that?

[tame carbon]

that's an encoder setting

[thick minnow]

ah ok as long as it exists then

ill look into it after i decide if i wanna do the vpn tunnel thing then thanks

might try it out on the weekend at least

oh also me seeding is gonna mess up my internet further uh oh

acc thats not too bad i could set limits but then i have to use a lotttt of compression

[tame carbon]

I think typical bitrates are around 180-200kbit/s

for an HD stream

varies

I am not an expert on this.. like.. I know enough about it to make it work

but that's about it

@rocky badge some big brains over at unifi

like, I seriously do not understand: And regarding shared responsibility, it's important to remember that we as users have a shared responsibility with Ubiquiti to know the additional risks of having cloud enabled devices and remote accessibility enabled on our devices.

is this just a person denying their own experiences?

[waxen scroll]

none of my ubnts use cloud

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll yeah but the idea that its shared responsibility

lol

cloud services = insecure

[plain siren]

Not by nature however
AWS for example is one of the most secure services out there, often times exceeding security of that you can achieve by convenient means locally/on-prem.
This is the result of poor management. The problem with Cloud Services is you have to inherently trust the IT on the other side.

[tame carbon]

@plain siren yeah but the fact that there was a breach month ago, and they got ransomed

like

they already fucked up

and then they did the most irresponsible thing you could possibly do in such a position

and why?

because they wanted to protect their bottom line