#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 308

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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With queues

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I think it is best to make it free.. and yes you could have a free one that everybody can use with limited speed

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 AM

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And then allow them to upgrade

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 AM

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then a higher tier that gives more

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 AM

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Then again its just opportunity costs now

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Currently they pay 1,50 euros/gb

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And thats not the guests

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That's my dad, privately and for business use

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So that will already relieve lot of costs

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Wifi free is also easiervto config

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@tender hazel couldn't I just create a 2nd ssid and use EAP?

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Give them username and password

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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yes, that's exactly what I was about to suggest

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you can have one wifi ssid for free

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Allow up to 2 devices

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 AM

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one EAP for cost

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in that case, depending on how soon you are setting this up, you may want to use routeros v7

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even though it is still in beta

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Is there an easy way for someone no savvy to easily manage access tokens?

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Or do I have to whip something together in a webapp using the api?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:47 AM

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yes, that's why I mention routeros v7, it has a redesigned user-manager that supports EAP

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and paypal billing

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 1:47 AM

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@clear igloo I'm watching Netflix from my ISP LUL https://blob.rocks/cYZiB1QipP.png

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:48 AM

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@tender hazel nah they can just buy vouchers at the front desk

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I can just create a script

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that will generate a bunch of them

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or create them as they go

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 AM

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ok

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 AM

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and then delete them at the end of the season

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 AM

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that works too

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 AM

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can you set traffic limits ?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 AM

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but you'll need something for EAP RADIUS auth

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:50 AM

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cant the mtik self provision auth?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:50 AM

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not with EAP, unless you use the new user-manager in ROS 7

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otherwise you'll need to run freeradius on some linux box or raspberry pi

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:50 AM

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so

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free wifi yes

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paid wifi, wait for ros 7

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:51 AM

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yes.. ros 7's user manager has built in support for EAP so you can use it for authenticating wifi clients.. I tried it myself on my home router just last night

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I made an enterprise SSID with EAP and my phone is now logging into that

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there is no practical purpose for that in my apartment, but it was cool 🙂

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:51 AM

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@tender hazel do the clients need to have rOS 7 ?

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I could just update the router to beta

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and leave the rest on stable

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:52 AM

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unfortunately yes, I'm not sure why, but CAPs that are 6.xx will not connect to a capsman that is on 7.xx

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the reverse works, strangely

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:52 AM

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oh

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:52 AM

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you can have CAPs on 7.xx connecting to a capsman on 6.xx

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 AM

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odd

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 AM

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I'm not sure why that limitation is there, but it is there

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I only discovered that through my tinkering on my home network

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 AM

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but we do have a server there

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its a small vmware box

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I could install a vm

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and run some kind of software to manager the accounts

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 AM

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oh yes, if you have a vmware box, that solves everything

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yes, you can use daloradius

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probably

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it is a web frontend for freeradius

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it does billing too but we don't use it for billing

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we just use it to give a web frontend for editing the radius data, otherwise you have to go to mysql command prompt

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:54 AM

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that's cool too lol

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if I can just use sql directly

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cus I just want a simple program

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where you press button

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it prints an A4 piece of paper

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with your login

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and instructions

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and if i can just query an sql database

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that's splendid.

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I've already done plenty of pdf generation

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:56 AM

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yup, sounds like you have a good handle on that then

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:56 AM

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latex :)

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:56 AM

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ahh

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if you have a vmware server, you might also want to set up librenms on a VM

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for monitoring

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I';ve never used any sort of active directory system

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so all of this is kinda unknown to me

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I mean you could use the dude for a small setup like that but I've never really liked thedude

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:57 AM

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I know what it does in practical terms, just not how its configured or works fundamentally

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:57 AM

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active directory? that is microsoft's LDAP server in windows

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:58 AM

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or dot1x ?

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I assume dot1x is what you use for EAP

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but Idk what all these components area

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:58 AM

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yes, but you don't really have to configure that

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:58 AM

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and how they are configured

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:58 AM

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you need to configure the RADIUS server

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EAP itself is really simple

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:59 AM

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802.1X consists of a supplicant, an authenticator and an authentication server (RADIUS server). Currently both authenticator and supplicant sides are supported in RouterOS.

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so authenticator is the agent

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supplicant is the guy trying to connect

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and radius server is what... software?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:59 AM

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/caps-man security
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk disable-pmkid=yes encryption=aes-ccm name=security1 passphrase=obfuscated
add authentication-types=wpa2-eap disable-pmkid=yes eap-methods=passthrough eap-radius-accounting=yes encryption=aes-ccm group-encryption=aes-ccm name=EAP tls-certificate=none tls-mode=
dont-verify-certificate

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:00 AM

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okay ,and what do you use as radius server?

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http://daloradius.com/ ?

daloRADIUS

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:00 AM

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/radius
add address=192.168.54.3 secret=obfuscated service=ppp
add address=192.168.54.3 secret=obfuscated service=wireless
/radius incoming
set accept=yes

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we use freeradius as a radius server

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 AM

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that address is the local radiusserver?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 AM

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daloradius is a web front end for freeradius

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yes

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 AM

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ideally

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 AM

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the radius server needs to have the capsman defined in it, with the source address for the packets and a matching shared secret

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 AM

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I want a smaller 1U low profile SBC server

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I can mount underneath the router

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that other server is all the accounting and NAS stuff

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@tender hazel my idea was to put all the mikrotiks themselves on vlan 1

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and then put the caps network on a seperate /20 vlan

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can I just filter based on those subnets?

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or how does that work?

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why ppp and wireless?

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caps is not listed, or does wireless count as caps?

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https://i.imgur.com/QYnKJ3j.png

Imgur

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oh I get it

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yeah.. and Its getting late. O.o 3am

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I should go to bed

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:06 AM

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wireless counts as caps

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and what I would do is I would not put the mikrotiks themselves on untagged

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@tame carbon

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the issue is that if someone manages to plug in to a port they shouldn't be plugged into you don't want them on your management network

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if you used vlan 1 for anything, it would be for your regular wifi access network

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that way if someone plugs in with a cable to a device they shouldn't be plugged into they will have no more capability than a free wifi user

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and most people are not going to know how to set up VLANs on their laptops or phones and probably cannot guess the VLAN IDs you are using for management

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so I would either leave the untagged VLAN unused entirely, or use it for the main network that all the guests are on

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also, just FYI, you only need the radius server settings on the capsman itself

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not on the caps

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:07 AM

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im gonna be local hosting my mc server from my pc, is it possible to get another IP and give that out instead of my pc's IPV4? i dont feel right giving that one out to everyone

shy phoenix Mar 21, 2021, 6:31 AM

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you'd be giving out your network's ip not your computer's

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unless you mean hosting on a LAN

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regardless there isn't much you can do about that. no matter what you give out its trivial to do a DNS lookup to find the IP

void shell Mar 21, 2021, 7:41 AM

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hi , is 802.11 b/g/n wifi standard capable of 5 GHZ networks

shy phoenix Mar 21, 2021, 7:44 AM

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by definition no

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oh wait, n can do it

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the others cant

cosmic cove Mar 21, 2021, 9:30 AM

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Howdy

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I got a question

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What’s the best WiFi 6 router for around 65 dollars?

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50 dollar minimum and 80 dollar maximum

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Idk

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Maybe tp link has some cheap routers that support WiFi 6

shy phoenix Mar 21, 2021, 10:11 AM

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thats really cheap for something wifi6 compatable

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only thing i see is the TPlink archer ax10 for 75

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 10:28 AM

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^^

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Good 😄

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 11:14 AM

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@tender hazel I might not use vlan 1 at all.

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no end user will be plugging anything into my gear

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:07 PM

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@tender hazel I made a guestimate for the total costs of the network

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and I got my dad to agree to roughly 2500 euros

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total equipment costs

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 12:08 PM

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thick minnow im gonna be local hosting my mc server from my pc, is it possible to get another...

You can use cloudflare

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:11 PM

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@clear igloo pretty sure that the free version of cloudflare doesnt do TCP tunneling

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 12:11 PM

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They have minecraft support on the free plan I'm 99% sure

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but everything else is paid

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:11 PM

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The tcp tunnel is a paid service past a certain usage

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Today

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I am learning a new language

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Cypher.

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:12 PM

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Cloudflare does have a a pge dedicated to minecraft

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but cloudflare spectrum is paid only

frozen cobalt Mar 21, 2021, 12:13 PM

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Is there anyway i can run windows and a server software side-by-side? I have storage server running freenas, but i want to use it as a gaming pc for the living room (along side my consoles). Will unraid do the trick? If yes, please tell me how.
i will upgrade the server if i get to know how

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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You could run the server OS as the base and virtualise Windows

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I assume that the OS is Linux

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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mighty wind but cloudflare spectrum is paid only

ah, good catch, I thought you could proxy through with minecraft for free but I checked and I was incorrect 🙂

frozen cobalt Mar 21, 2021, 12:14 PM

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thick minnow I assume that the OS is Linux

it's running freenas

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and vm in freenas is confusing

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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You can do the minecraft srv records and stuff but that uses the ip in the a record

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

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srv records only help with port mapping in minecraft

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because it doesnt support vhosts

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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I have done some shady stuff with a cheap vps running hamachi to tunnel it so the MC server isnt on the public ip but all traffic is forwarded tot he secret ip at home/dorm room

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:16 PM

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@mighty wind I recently helped someone do that, but with wireguard

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they were behind a CG-NAT

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:17 PM

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Yeah I only did hamachi since those didnt exist at the time and other VPN were blocked in the dorms.

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wireguard would be a good purpose for that since there is little overhead in keeping the tunnel open if no one is on the server.

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Eventually I just got a kimsufi bare metal server for a while and now i upgraded to two SoYouStart servers

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 12:19 PM

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frozen cobalt it's running freenas

Yea I think you should install another Server distro (such as unraid) and install freenas and windows as VMs, I wouldn't personally recommened Unraid because it is paid, but the others here can give you suggestions

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:19 PM

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unraid is just LTT shilling

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same with people who ask about glasswire kek

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Either way there are some hardware things you will want to look at to make sure you can do GPU pass through without major headaches.

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I have heard good things about xcp-ng but it seems like its for more advanced users. I personally use proxmox so its the only one I can help with. Unraid is the big name as far as LTT goes though.

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which reminds me I have an abandoned project I should work on

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Hey guys someone can give me an idea of how to connect shared folder between 2 centos machines.
I have my domain ssl on one vps and I want to connect the Letsencrypt folder of the domain to my other vps.
Certbot doesn't support subdomain:port

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Scp?

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Rsync?

frozen cobalt Mar 21, 2021, 12:36 PM

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thick minnow Yea I think you should install another Server distro (such as unraid) and instal...

anything you suggest?

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i would like all the software side of things be free

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:40 PM

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peak cloak Rsync?

Nah I want it to be always connected to the second server

frozen cobalt Mar 21, 2021, 12:41 PM

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thick minnow Yea I think you should install another Server distro (such as unraid) and instal...

hey someone recommended promox, should i try that?

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:41 PM

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tame carbon unraid is just LTT shilling

😆

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:43 PM

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frozen cobalt hey someone recommended promox, should i try that?

I use it, what are you trying to do?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 12:43 PM

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frozen cobalt Is there anyway i can run windows and a server software side-by-side? I have sto...

@peak cloak

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:44 PM

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Oh yeah proxmox will work

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Use pcie passthrough for the gpu

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And I forgot exactly how but you also need to stop proxmox itself from using the gpu

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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blacklist the kernel module

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on the host

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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I have truenas core server I saw that I can create vms on it

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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So you can just plug a monitor in and it will be on that vm

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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lean pebble I have truenas core server I saw that I can create vms on it

It's freebsd

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Apparently it's annoying

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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@peak cloak you can blacklist the kernel driver and then it wont load it

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:45 PM

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tame carbon <@!222482269829332992> you can blacklist the kernel driver and then it wont load...

Yeah, that's it

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:46 PM

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Anyone have a good solution for my question 😅

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 12:48 PM

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lean pebble Anyone have a good solution for my question 😅

Can't rsync do mounts?

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:48 PM

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I'm not sure

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With rsync the ssl not working o_O

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

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ssl?

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wat

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its ssh

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

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Trying to move the ssl certificate from my other vps to new vps

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For some reason not loading the new ssl into the second server

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

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lean pebble Hey guys someone can give me an idea of how to connect shared folder between 2 c...

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@tame carbon

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Certbot not working because I use different port than 443 to go to the internet on my specific subdomain

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:01 PM

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you can use the standalone webserver to get the certificate

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:01 PM

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clear igloo You can use cloudflare

yeah i registered a free domain, set it up with cloud flare domains, and then had it redirect mc.domain.net to my local IP but i feel like they can still find my IP

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Yah, if you don't have it proxied then they can find your IP

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 PM

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uhh

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will cloudflares “proxied” option be enough when adding DNS records

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 PM

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If the cloud is grey then it's not proxied

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 PM

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cuz i have them on

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Yah then you're good

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:03 PM

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alright nice

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the only struggle i’ve been having was finding actual mods that don’t crash minecraft all the time

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but i’ve been able to set up the server so far

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:05 PM

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@thick minnow you can check with this https://toolbox.googleapps.com/apps/dig/

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Type in your hostname

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And it will dig it

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Check the ip

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:05 PM

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dig dig dig

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:05 PM

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dig all the stuff 😄

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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 crystal@watomat  ~  dig yourmom.com

; <<>> DiG 9.10.3-P4-Ubuntu <<>> yourmom.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54011
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;yourmom.com.            IN    A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
yourmom.com.        21600    IN    A    208.113.233.166

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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are the 2 IPs way i’m supposed to look for

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neither are mine

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am i good

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:06 PM

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You can do a whois on those IPS

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And check if they are cloudflare

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:07 PM

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so annoying when services hide behind cloudflare

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soon, the entire internet will first go through cloudflare

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:07 PM

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I think 1.1.1.1 is owned by Cloudflare

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ie. the DNS server

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Yes

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It is

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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tfw you allocate 8gb to your mc server and still runs behind

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Well ram isn't the only thing

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Processor speed

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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i got a r7 3700x

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:08 PM

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You want at least 3 ghz

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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been clocking at like 4ghz

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Are you using the official minecraft jar?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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i’m using forge

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Oh

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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uses both i think

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Yeah forge

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That's modded so pretty resource intensive

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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yeah i allocated 8gb

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since i have like 50 something mods

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keep getting ticking entities too

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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you dont need that much

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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i have 32 total

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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I run a server with about 200 mods on 4GB ram

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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gave it 8 just to be safe

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Because I was going to reccomend papermc for vanilla

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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The VM or the server.jar startup var?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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is that similar to spigot

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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@thick minnow are you running a forge server?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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yeah

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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@thick minnow install https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/spark

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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forge 1.12.2

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Install this ^

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That's a profiler

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it helps identify what code in the server is running slow

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and helps pinpoint a specific machine or mod that is causing it

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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now i have to reupload a new zip and update the modpack samsungsob

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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no

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its server side only

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you dont need it on the client

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it just uses server commands

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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wouldn’t it reject it client side

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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nah

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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oh

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i thought you did

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hmm

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:12 PM

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not all mods are on both client and server

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you can have a server side only mod

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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didn’t know that

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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there's also client side mods

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such as Journey map

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the server doesnt need journey map for it to function

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works in vanilla just as well

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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do u use mo creatures by any chance

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and had issues with ticking aquatic entities

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I run FTB Revelation

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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what’s that

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:13 PM

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modpack

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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oh

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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with its share of issues

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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i thought it was a mod

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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https://www.feed-the-beast.com/

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These are just a bunch of curated modpacks

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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ohh feed the beast heard of it

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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all running ontop of Forge

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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i made my own

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but

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 PM

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making your own modpack is messy

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you need a bunch of compat libraries

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for different mods to work together

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:15 PM

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i was always very hesitant about adding mo creatures since it would always crash the client and i’d have to despawn the entity over and over

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i think i’ve got it fixed now tho

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:15 PM

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@thick minnow spark is a magnifying glass for any server lag you might have

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:15 PM

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the only issue i have now is getting a ticking entity when killed by a dragon

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:15 PM

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you just turn the sampler on

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and after 2 minutes to tell it to stop

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it then generates a url you can visit, that has all the information on it

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it shows you everything the server is doing

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and gives % of total load of each block of code

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so if a specific machine is lagging, then it will be high usage on their code

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:16 PM

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ah

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yeah it sounds pretty useful

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:16 PM

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it is :D

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it's helped me weed out any lag issues on modded servers

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with gigantic bases.

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:17 PM

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do you think it’s a good idea to use that one mod that allows you to run spigot plugins alongside forge

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:17 PM

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ehh forgebukkit has always been a bit messy

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it works fine for adminstrative plugins

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but breaks when it has to interact with the world

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:17 PM

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yeah that’s what i wanted it for, essentials, luckperms

clear igloo Mar 21, 2021, 1:17 PM

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If you want forge and spigot then I recommend mohist 🙂

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 1:18 PM

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maybe a prefix/chat formatting plug-in unless there’s something like that for forge

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:18 PM

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@lean pebble you may have to use Dehydrated

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Instead of certbot

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:20 PM

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tender hazel <@109801863771074560> you may have to use Dehydrated

What is that ?

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I just figured out that the problem is not nginx the problem is this pufferpanel with the certificate

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:22 PM

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https://dehydrated.io/

dehydrated

letsencrypt/acme client implemented as a shell-script – just add water

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:22 PM

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No the problem is my old ssl certificate just noticed that it's from 2019 😆

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:26 PM

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the longest a certificate could be valid for is two years. Recently reduced to one year. Perhaps it was a two year cert you got in 2019 and it just expired

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:27 PM

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Fixed

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Wrong folder

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I have 3 folders in letsencrypt 2 old 1 new

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Transfered the wrong folder

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:32 PM

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catvibing

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:33 PM

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😆

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:33 PM

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best emoji

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 PM

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How are you using the cert on a different system than certbot runs on? Or are you using dns challenge?

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 PM

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So anyone have a good idea for my question?
Should I transfer with it with rsync ?

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 PM

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tender hazel How are you using the cert on a different system than certbot runs on? Or are yo...

My main domain on my main vps so I'm doing there the wild card certificate

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:34 PM

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@tender hazel lol spoke with my dad. The contractors have started running fiber optics this weekend
They already busted a mains water supply KEKW

mighty wind Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 PM

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big oof

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 PM

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Lol

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 PM

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“Oops”

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:35 PM

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it was an old water supply from 1800

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unpressured spring water

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:36 PM

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Wow

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:36 PM

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nobody even knew where the pipe was coming from, and couldnt find the shutteers.

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@tender hazel they would 2 feed lines, they blocked one of them, but still water was coming out

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:36 PM

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My certbot connected to cloudflare api for making the certs

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:36 PM

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and the map they had, had the pipe drawn. and it just went of the side of the chart into land of nowhere

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"no idea where this goes"

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they ended up locating the pipe further up the stream, and they cut it open entirely

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:37 PM

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lol

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:37 PM

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My ISP running fiber but still can't connect my house

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:37 PM

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so now the water flows into the nearby spillway

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Even that I already have their fiber for 9 years in my neighborhood

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Can I connect my own fiber and to their gpon switch?

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🤔

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 PM

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@tender hazel this ISP is not fooling around. They ran 6 plastic tubes instead of a single one.

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#futureproof

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Here it's pastproof

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:38 PM

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It is normal practice

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:40 PM

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1/2 tubes

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:40 PM

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hopefully, the connection itself will be active ethernet

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So I can just plug that SFP directly into my gear

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:40 PM

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Does gpon connection is good ?

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All the ISPs over here uses gpon now

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Except one that use P2P

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:41 PM

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my ISP does active ethernet

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:41 PM

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What active ethernet mean ? 😅

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You get ethernet to your gear ?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Yeah

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Oh nice

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Its just SFP with ethernet

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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internet is on a VLAN with a DHCP service

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Good to learn something new

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 PM

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I didnt know it was called that until someone pointed it out to me

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There's Metro-E, Active Ethernet and PON

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 PM

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Most isps that do gpon also do active Ethernet for business customers

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:43 PM

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this is a business line

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but on a consumer network

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rented fiber optics

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I pay 13,50 for just the fiber service

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internet service is a different entity

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Fiber in P2P is good option right ?

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I still need to see the connection this ISP does inside the homes here

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They say it's P2P but I don't believe them

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 PM

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p2p or ptp ?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 PM

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What?

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:45 PM

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P2P they claim

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:46 PM

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love it when ISPs reinvent jargon

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:46 PM

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Peer to peer? Like torrent?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 1:46 PM

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IP over Bittorent

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:47 PM

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My bad

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Peer to peer

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:47 PM

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What do peer to peer protocols like torrent have to do with fiber?

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Or do you mean PTP which is point to point

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:49 PM

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YA my bad I mistaked with the name

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😆

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Point to point

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Active Ethernet is like that. GPON is more like point to multipoint

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:51 PM

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What is better?

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Point to point right ?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Active Ethernet is better. GPON is done to save costs

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Ya in Israel they are professional with saving costs on themselves and take the costumer money for providing nothing

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:52 PM

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The only reason for GPON is you can take a single fiber and install a splitter to get 8 or 33 fibers from the one

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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1 ISP here going to sell 2.5gbps down and 250mbps up

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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They are taking money from people who make costumes? 🙂

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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But it's up to 2.5Gbps

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:53 PM

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tender hazel They are taking money from people who make costumes? 🙂

Lol customers*

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But finally they got some brain 🧠.
They decided that whoever want to use his own network gear can use it with their fiber instead making the customers rent their shit

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 1:58 PM

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With GPON you need an ONT of some kind

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Specialized hardware

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Are you sure ? Because they say it's fiber to the house

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So I'm not sure but I know that this specific ISP uses gpon

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Fiber to the home can mean gpon or active Ethernet or almost anything really. It is a very broad term

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I'll update next year when they connect my house

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😆

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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What is normally done is installing two devices

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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They claim this year but I'm not gonna believe them

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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The ONT can double as a router but that is bad practice

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:02 PM

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optimum...

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they don't even provide a dedicated ONT

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they claim the all-in-one can be put in passthough but I heard otherwise on redit

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:03 PM

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So they are doing ONT and router as one unit then

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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yep

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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thats the worst of them all

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its like: here have fiber with bunch of crap bolted onto it

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Yeah that’s not great. One issue is using third party routers becomes more complicated potentially because you would need a bridge mode option

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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^ Your ISP ^ Your mortal self

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:05 PM

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The other reason it isn’t good is because the best place for the ONT is the entry point where the fiber comes into the building. That isn’t the best place for the router

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:06 PM

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yep

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we have fios now

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they just give a dedicated ont

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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So I'll be unable to use my mtik hex-s when using ont? 🤔

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:07 PM

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you know what's the worst part too, optimum claims cheaper prices but they force a 10 dollar a month fee for the router that you can't replace because gpon

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gpon isn't standardized like dociss is it?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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We’ve been using hex s units in bridge mode as active Ethernet ONTs

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:08 PM

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each ISP uses their own implementation?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:10 PM

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GPON is supposed to be standardized but the issue is what the OLT supports

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Calix OLTs are quite popular and they forbid non Calix ONTs from connecting to force ISPs to only buy Calix gear

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Enforced vendor lock-in

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We didn’t go with Calix for that reason only

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:14 PM

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such bs lol

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you sure Calix isnt an apple subsidiary?

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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The Altice equipment cannot be bridged/bypassed but you could configure your wireless access points to be just dumb access points instead of a full fledged router+AP system and that would eliminate the double NAT. Not sure what equipment you're using but most of the stuff I've touched has this ability

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lol

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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I know that we have here one ISP that provides "fiber" but the connection in coax

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:15 PM

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fiber to the node

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:18 PM

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yup I have fiber to the node with docsis at the end at home here

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300 down 100 up

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 2:19 PM

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optimum used to be fine until atlice bought it

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:19 PM

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@tender hazel I looked up online how much the 60GHz is attenuated by rain and such. and according to this one article, for heavy downpour there's less then 2dBi attenuation over 100 meters

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which is well within the power budget of those APs

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:20 PM

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yup - we are more worried about heavy rain in situations where the link is longer

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we try to avoid 60GHz links above 1000 meters due to rain fade

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:21 PM

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apparently its oxygen that causes the attenuation

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:21 PM

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our links don't have backup radios

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yes

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it is

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:21 PM

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2.4GHz is only affected by hydrogen/water

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:22 PM

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but it doesn't take much at all to block 60GHz when it comes to physical obstruction, a thin piece of cloth or piece of paper would completely block the signal

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:22 PM

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what about a twig?

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There's gonna be one area

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:22 PM

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a plastic bag picked up by the wind could fly between the radios briefly and if it went directly between it could knock it offline

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:22 PM

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where we'll be under the covers of trees

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and there are already SXT's installed there as ptp

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I assume those use line of sight too, so we can replace those with 60GHz

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240 euros for a ptp link is good value

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so we probably have 3-4 links

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:23 PM

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if it is line of sight then you can use 60GHz yes, but if the line of sight is obstructed by leaves you won't want to use it, or you will want to find some other way of placing it where leaves don't get in the way

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Yeah, that I will know in a couple weeks

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I'm visiting my dad in a month or so

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Its a 4.5h drive... :P

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:24 PM

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we have had some customers even on 5GHz where their internet was installed in the winter and was fine until the spring

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:24 PM

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haha

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:24 PM

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when the leaves started to grow

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I joked that it was seasonal internet

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I didn't tell that joke to the customer obviously LOL

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:25 PM

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he was already on the lookout for galvanized metal posts

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so we can cement our own if we need them

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@tender hazel quite looking forward to this. get to play with 2500 worth of equipment and learn something in the process

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I'm confident enough I will be able to figure it out

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:27 PM

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you'll want posts you can climb too.. make sure you don't just put up bare posts because you would need a bucket truck (aka "cherry picker") to get to the top, and bucket truck rentals can be expensive, at least here

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:28 PM

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@tender hazel that excavator we have has a bunch of different tools you can put on the front

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we can just put a pallet lift on it

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:28 PM

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oh ok, that can work then

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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the place is pretty self sufficient

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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making the poles easy to climb also has the downside of making them easy to climb for the patrons

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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when things break, they fix it themselves

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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usually kids like to try to climb towers

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I'll put a high voltage warning sign on it

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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and poles

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:29 PM

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germans are law abiding citizens

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xD

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:30 PM

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our towers have climb guards installed on the bottom which prevent climbing

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:30 PM

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@tender hazel those SXT's are mounted about 2 meters up

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if I try hard enough, i can reach them without a ladder

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old meem

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@tender hazel what's up with those parabolic dishes?

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https://mikrotik.com/product/MTAD-5G-30D3

MikroTik

MikroTik is a Latvian company which was founded in 1996 to develop routers and wireless ISP systems. MikroTik now provides hardware and software for Internet connectivity in most of the countries around the world.

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What are these used for?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:33 PM

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long distance 5ghz links

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:33 PM

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geez

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100 watts O.o

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:33 PM

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those are big

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70 cm diameter

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:34 PM

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that's like the size of a sattelite dish

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:35 PM

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you can see the size of it compared to the radio there

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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ah that's what those base boxes are for then

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:36 PM

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the basebox can be used as an access point or point to point

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if you are using it for point to point then that dish would probably be a good option

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:37 PM

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is there even a technology that allows for high bandwidth long distance?

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more than 10km

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just out of curiosity

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:38 PM

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but again whenever you need jumpers between the radio and the dish there is the possibility of moisture getting in, which can't happen with an integrated system

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so I would only use that type of setup for very long distance links

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our longer distance links are ubiquiti airfiber 5XHD

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:39 PM

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what are those rated for?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:39 PM

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we can get about 300Mbps over 30km with a 40MHz channel size

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:39 PM

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wow

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that's not bad

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how's the latency?

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I'd assume on-par if not faster than fiber optics

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:40 PM

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that's with a big dish though, even bigger than that mikrotik one, 121 cm

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:40 PM

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lol if phones had a big dish on them

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we would have far easier time with wifi xD

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:41 PM

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the latency is about 3ms on average

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:41 PM

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I hate antenna alignment. I once spent 2 hours trying to align a dish to Astra

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without an alignment tool, you rely purely on signal strength

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_19.2°E

Astra_19.2%C2%B0E

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this one ^

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if you knock that one satellite down, you take down 93 million home TV connections

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wow.

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these things transmit with about 13kW

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where are they even getting all that juice from?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:46 PM

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it is much easier to receive satellite than it is to transmit

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to transmit you need a much bigger dish, usually 2.4 meters

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:46 PM

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but transmitting with such power, I assume they use solar

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but damn, still a lot of power

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:46 PM

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we had a consultant recommend 1.2 meter dishes

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so we installed them

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it was a mistake

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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more noise than signal?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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we had to keep flying out to those places over and over again because we were interfering with a mexican satellite

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:47 PM

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... IChooseKEKW

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temporal internet

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when mexicans fly by, it stops working

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wait no, telecom satlink is geostationary, nvm

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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I always imagined a satellite wearing a sombrero

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but yeah it is geostationary

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:48 PM

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With a little help from paint

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you can make that into a sombrero

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:49 PM

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hehe

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what happens is the smaller the dish, the less focused the beam

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a 2.4 meter dish has a very focused beam due to the size

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so it doesn't toss out energy very far outside of the beam

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:50 PM

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lol have you ever seen the transmitter array on Voyager?

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they use a 50 watt radio to beam halfway through our galaxy

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:50 PM

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1.2 meter dishes are less focused and so they can send signal to nearby satellites instead, making them much harder to aim

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:51 PM

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 The craft normally transmits data to Earth over Deep Space Network Channel 18, using a frequency of either 2.3 GHz or 8.4 GHz, while signals from Earth to Voyager are transmitted at 2.1 GHz.[23]

When Voyager 1 is unable to communicate directly with the Earth, its digital tape recorder (DTR) can record about 67 megabytes of data for transmission at another time.[24] Signals from Voyager 1 take over 20 hours to reach Earth.[4]

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20 hours of latency

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 2:51 PM

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yup, well light only goes so fast

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 2:52 PM

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voyager is 80% dishes

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and 20% spacecraft

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of that 20%, most is the plutonium RTG

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https://i.imgur.com/kmbOeVD.png

Imgur

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@tender hazel pretty rad ^ this

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global network of dishes, so we always have at least one dish pointing in an area in the sky at all times

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MRO in the top left, that's for the Curiosity rover

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 3:00 PM

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there was a good movie about transmitters of that type from 20 years ago, "The Dish"

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 3:01 PM

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tame carbon is there even a technology that allows for high bandwidth long distance?

The tech starlink uses?

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It's like phased array

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Or something like that

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It's really expensive like 1.5k for a consumer dish

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 3:05 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dyGpXcQl-g

YouTube

Movieclips Classic Trailers

The Dish (2000) Official Trailer - Sam Neill, Billy Mitchell Movie HD

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A remote Australian antenna, populated by quir...

▶ Play video

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 3:16 PM

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@tender hazel rofl what happened

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@tender hazel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyOEwiQhzMI

YouTube

ScreamFactoryTV

Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970) - Official Trailer (HD)

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▶ Play video

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Forbin project is quite funny too

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its about an AI that controls all nukes on earth, and forced humanity into subservience

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Well my isp blocks portforwarding he has double nat what do I do ?

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Zerotier

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Or a vps with a vpn to your house

lean pebble Mar 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Let's say I have my own ipv4 public address can I use it on starlink instead of cgnat ?
Just curious it'll arrive here only next year or maybe in 2/3 years

zealous dock Mar 21, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Um i need help i cant connect to my internett anymore

hollow marlin Mar 21, 2021, 5:38 PM

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lean pebble Let's say I have my own ipv4 public address can I use it on starlink instead of ...

If you own anything less than a /24 than no. /24 and larger you can register to get an ASN then can advertise through BGP on whichever provider you use if you request a peering

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 5:40 PM

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There is no point in starlink for most people

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:48 PM

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What speed should fibre yield?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:49 PM

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theoretically, infinite

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:49 PM

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umbral ruin What speed *should* fibre yield?

At this moment with best equipment 10 GBit/s max

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:50 PM

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you mean 400Gbit

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and with a multiplexer, multiple terrabits

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:51 PM

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bruh my ISP offers 70 Mb down

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:51 PM

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peering is more expensive

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once you get into the gigabit territory, it gets expensive real quick. fiber itself is peanuts in cost

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:51 PM

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I know that a ISP in Stockholm delivers 10 gbit/s to private customers (Have read it somewhere in a newspaper)

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:52 PM

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its just light going down a tube

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and you can put multiple "colors" of light down the same fiber for even more gainz

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my ISP offers up to 800mbit's on this single mode fiber

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the fiber could just as well do 100G, its just that my ISP doesnt have gear or uplink to do this xD

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:53 PM

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I feel like I should be getting more, I see people with hundreds

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:53 PM

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are you on wifi?

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:53 PM

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no, ethernet

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I have a symetric line https://i.imgur.com/mDPMNKM.png

Imgur

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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But we may be happy with the speeds we get. (Compared with the wifi on NS trains)

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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I'mma look at what other ISPs offer, I think my one is just kinda crap

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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so both up and down are the same

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well, just about https://i.imgur.com/cY9Nx7x.png

Imgur

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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very cool

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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speedtest has some overhead, this is actually 250

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it always measures slightly less than it actually is

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:55 PM

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I have a Coax asymmetric 250/25 and paying premium price

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Netherlands is hella expensive

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Germany also

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:55 PM

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@tall pagoda how much you pay?

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I pay 72 euros for just the data plan

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:55 PM

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p[ahsdfuhasifhiposeah other ISPs offer 108 Mb down at minimun offers it's literally cheaper

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:56 PM

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tame carbon <@!303819081990275073> how much you pay?

55 euros for Cable + TV

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:56 PM

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@tall pagoda KEKW

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stop compaining

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Once you add fiber upkeep, 13.50

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TV plan, extra /29 IP block

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you get to around 137/month

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thats what I pay to my ISP

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I'm with BT 😭

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 5:57 PM

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I am glad that we have contracted at the correct time, just the day after Liberty Global stops giving away the premium TV box (Mediabox Next) to medium customers

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:57 PM

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blah blah marketing blah blah

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marketing department for tech is total nonsense.

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:57 PM

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It is more expensive tho, they give cheap deal for only 18 months

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:58 PM

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fiber currently, is just a matter of luck

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its currently being rolled out slowly

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:58 PM

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It was only recently installed on my road

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:58 PM

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unless you pay upfront 50 grand

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to have it run

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:58 PM

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tame carbon unless you pay upfront 50 grand

Mmmm yes small hurdle

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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the line I have was govt subsidized lol

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total costs: 85k

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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They just did ours

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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thats why I pay 13,50 to the operator

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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tame carbon unless you pay upfront 50 grand

A small price to pay for salvation

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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@thick minnow and in turn I get the best kind of internet connection

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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😆

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Since this is networking, does anyone know if using linux I can reroute my internet through another computer

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 5:59 PM

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active ethernet, the ISP just sent me a patch fiber and an SFP module

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that plugs directly into my router

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no stupid modem nonsense.

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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We have fiber it cost only 100$ for installation

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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@lapis marsh yes

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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What provider?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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@lapis marsh though somewhat involved. you can use iptables for this

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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Im bypassing my perents yt restrictions

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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then im not helping you

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:00 PM

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thick minnow We have fiber it cost only 100$ for installation

OOF, our whole city has a free fiber connection

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Ok

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Ohhh

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Its to watch ltt

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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just ask your parents lol

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Ok that’s probably easier

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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LTT is harmless gamer indoctrination

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:01 PM

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Is floatplane free?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:02 PM

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no

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 6:02 PM

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What should I look for if I want an ISP that supports many users at once?

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:02 PM

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umbral ruin What should I look for if I want an ISP that supports many users at once?

Whats many?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:02 PM

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@umbral ruin you just need a fast line

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if you have a gigabit speeds, you can basically support 20x 50/50mbit

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 6:03 PM

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thick minnow Whats many?

not that many, just me and my family, sometimes it slows if we're all using at once

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:04 PM

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umbral ruin not that many, just me and my family, sometimes it slows if we're all using at o...

Well every isp can do that

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:04 PM

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@umbral ruin you could set up bandwidth policies if you had the right kind of router

thick minnow Mar 21, 2021, 6:04 PM

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You probably dont have a good home network

lapis marsh Mar 21, 2021, 6:04 PM

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If you wanted to could you have a separate home network from the internet and make it so all inbound connections are blocked and only outbound ones work

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:04 PM

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@umbral ruin you can make it so that everyone is guaranteed a certain speed, but if there's more for more, you can use it all

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https://i.imgur.com/9p564ea.png

Imgur

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Well if I have 4 people in the house, and each person has a few devices, what kind of speeds should I be aiming for?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:06 PM

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QoS might also help you out here

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that allows latency sensitive packets to get priority on the network

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though not always that reliable

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but QoS is a type of queueing

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 6:09 PM

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I'm not sure how to do a lot of that, just if I'm looking for a new ISP, I don't want to overpay.

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:09 PM

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depends on how much you need really

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you'd want to hook up a bandwidth monitor or something

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see how much traffic you use

umbral ruin Mar 21, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Alright, I'll look into that, thanks

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:10 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/KyNpcGf.png

Imgur

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 6:10 PM

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tame carbon thats why I pay 13,50 to the operator

Which one?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:11 PM

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https://www.deltafibernederland.nl/nl/

DELTA Fiber Nederland

Home - DELTA Fiber Nederland

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@tall pagoda their service provider subsidiary is caiway

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but I use some other company for this

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I would just shape the whole lot with a single PCQ queue probably if worried about contention in a household

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 6:13 PM

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I know that company, it was founded in the province of Sealand. (No not Denmark)

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:13 PM

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@tender hazel I'm probably not gonna do any queuing initally on that public rig xD
wanna see what happens

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gonna hook up some graphing and see

tall pagoda Mar 21, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Origin a cable company

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 6:14 PM

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yeah they do fiber optics now

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@tall pagoda they ran fiber optics in the rural areas in Gelderland

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I live outside of the city

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but still get to enjoy fast net

untold remnant Mar 21, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Hey guys, I need some info on VPS, Can any of you help me by any chance?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:01 PM

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@tame carbon vlan 161 is what your ISP uses for your service?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:05 PM

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ye

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:10 PM

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strange coincidence, it is the exact same vlan that our customers are on at all of our sites

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:10 PM

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@tender hazel what about iptv?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:10 PM

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we don't offer IPTV yet

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:11 PM

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well in case you need a vlan

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they use 168

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:11 PM

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LOL.. the specific numbers aren't really important.. it is not like there is a standard for it

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:11 PM

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I thought there was, for a moment xD

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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we only rolled out our first fiber customers in feburary

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only like 10 customers to start off with

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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@tender hazel https://www.amino.tv/

Amino Communications

Home - Amino Communications

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these are the boxes they use

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they have a 10.0.0.0/16 subnet

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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but something frustrating, the SFP's were installed on the wrong sides

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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with multicast

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:12 PM

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Fiber ISP here has 2.3k customers with availability in over 11k locations

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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so we have to take the SFP module from the head end and bring it to the customer, and vice versa

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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A mix of Adtran total access & Ubiquiti UFiber

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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which will temporary knock the person offline

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kindof annoying

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Mainly Adtran in cities and UFiber in rural areas

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/zbCUUg1.png

Imgur

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:14 PM

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Idk what they're using for IPTV, for residential they offer ZyXEL for $5/mo.

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For business they offer managed UniFi installs

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or Meraki

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and for universities and crap, the uni has their own ASN and just peer with the ISP

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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at my uni I just get a public IP assigned to my device

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and publicly reachable

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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yeah because universities usually got large blocks of many /24's early on

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Some unis need to give up their blocks lmao

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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tender hazel yeah because universities usually got large blocks of many /24's early on

or larger

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:18 PM

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yeah

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:19 PM

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https://bgp.he.net/AS3#_prefixes

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:19 PM

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which is one of the reasons why universities are somewhat slow moving to IPv6

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you would think they would be all over it as research institutions

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:20 PM

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@tender hazel and US DOD also seems to think they own the internet

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entire branches of US three-letter agencies have entire /8 blocks

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they are not the world.

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:26 PM

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yeah, and they are slow moving to IPv6 because of potential security concerns

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https://www.zdnet.com/article/dods-third-attempt-to-implement-ipv6-isnt-going-well/

ZDNet

DOD's third attempt to implement IPv6 isn't going well | ZDNet

First two attempts failed citing security concerns. This time, the DOD is woefully behind on its own implementation plan.

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:26 PM

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https://ipv6excuses.com/

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:27 PM

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LOL.

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Brilliant

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@rocky badge LOL

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Our business intelligence team can't even parse IPv4 logfiles

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:28 PM

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HaHaa

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:29 PM

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@rocky badge I always nagged my co-workers with http://whatthecommit.com/

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when they would write nonsensical commit messages

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:29 PM

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https://twitter.com/gitlost

Developers Swearing (@gitlost)

Unfiltered commit messages containing profanity from GitHub's API. Picture is of a burning NeXT Cube. Developed by @uiri00

Tweets

59400

Followers

37476

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:30 PM

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There's even a jetbrains plugin for whatthecommit

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that autofills the message if you leave it empty

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@rocky badge I do have a legitimate complaint about v6 right now. Because my ISP doesnt offer it, there is the issue that geolocation gets messed up with tunnelbroker

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I get the US netflix when I use v6.

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Lol

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:34 PM

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I thought netflix removed rick and morty from their library mid stream

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cus it just refreshed and was like: this media is not available in your country

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uwotm8

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I noticed it had started using v6 (I had enabled it earlier that day)

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 7:39 PM

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is your v6 through a tunnel or something?

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 7:43 PM

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HE yes

forest pond Mar 21, 2021, 8:07 PM

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any professional linux user here?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ahh yes, that's why I stopped using my HE tunnel

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netflix started blocking all HE tunnels as being VPN

unborn sun Mar 21, 2021, 8:13 PM

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When i tried upgrading my home wifi, i added a cat6 (origanlly a cat 5e, also it is limited to cat6) and when i did a speedtest it was slower. I used a longer cat6 cable and i am 100% sure it was cat6. I think it was because it was too long. Am i right?

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:13 PM

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lean pebble Let's say I have my own ipv4 public address can I use it on starlink instead of ...

starlink is cgnat with no ipv6 iirc

unborn sun Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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It was the ethernet cable to the wifi access point.

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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don't use netflix so no problems there

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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unborn sun When i tried upgrading my home wifi, i added a cat6 (origanlly a cat 5e, also it...

how long

unborn sun Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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I think 10ft

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For 6

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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and where there any electrical cables close?

unborn sun Mar 21, 2021, 8:14 PM

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And 1ft for 5e

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:15 PM

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ethernet limit is 100m

unborn sun Mar 21, 2021, 8:15 PM

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No

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Ok

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Must have been interference from inside the wall? Or a RG6. Thanks tho

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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@clear igloo Wow, so this internal site has been broken all Spring break because I didn't feel like working on it over Spring break
And so I fix it...the clients already reloaded and are up again!

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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if your cable can't get the fastest ethernet rate, you will see that it doesn't autonegotiate at the requested speed (ex. 1Gbps)

rocky badge Mar 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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I wonder how many times they've been pinging a dead server 😂

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 8:21 PM

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tender hazel if your cable can't get the fastest ethernet rate, you will see that it doesn't ...

yep that too

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I've never had it happen where a copper ethernet link negotiated 1Gbps successfully but couldn't maintain it

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:39 PM

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does anyone know how i can port foward an ingress controller through my router without a ip

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:40 PM

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calm nebula does anyone know how i can port foward an ingress controller through my router w...

wdym

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without a ip

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:40 PM

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theres this service running on a computer right

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but it doesnt get assaigned an ip trough my dhcp server on the router its assaigned an internal ip by a master node that controls traffice flow to it

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i can access the server through my lan but its in the form of a .nip.io domain

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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then it has an ip

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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thats the thing it cant be routed through jsu tthe ip itself

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its routed through multiple nodes to the server

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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what's this ingress controller?

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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its basically a network handler that controls tcp requests to the internal side of the service

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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yeah but what's the name of it

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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traefik

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:47 PM

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I've never successfully worked with traefik but it still needs an IP

#

it's just a reverse proxy right?

#

it should still get an ip

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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yeah

#

how do i find it ?

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

#

how is this deployed?

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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k3s

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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ah

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never got k3s to work

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need to learn it

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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lol mines working i enjoy the challenge

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got pods and namespaces a plenty

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:50 PM

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@calm nebula have you seen this? https://levelup.gitconnected.com/a-guide-to-k3s-ingress-using-traefik-with-nodeport-6eb29add0b4b

Medium

A Guide to K3s Ingress Using Traefik with NodePort

For a better understanding of an invaluable cloud concept

#

you apparently need NodePort

#

whatever that is

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:51 PM

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maybe a node port can get assaigned a ip from my router then goes through the k3s dns stuff

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i havent

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ill look into it thanks for your help

peak cloak Mar 21, 2021, 9:52 PM

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yeah, once I get a new server I'm going to learn kubernetes more as well

calm nebula Mar 21, 2021, 9:55 PM

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cool

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i have servers a plenty lol

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liek 8 in my home

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one of em my 15 tb nas

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

#

@tame carbon I don't know if you heard about the time that a MikroTik took down large pieces of the Internet

#

https://blogs.oracle.com/internetintelligence/longer-is-not-always-better

Longer is not always better

This post is a follow-up to our blog last week about a small Czech provider briefly causing global Internet mayhem via a single errant routing announcement.

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 10:46 PM

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@tender hazel technically it was cisco's fault

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 10:47 PM

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well the funny thing was at the time that happened, mikrotik had fixed the issue months before if not longer

#

they were just running an old version that had broken bounds checking

tame carbon Mar 21, 2021, 10:48 PM

#

kek

#

when was the last time cisco had any bugs?

tender hazel Mar 21, 2021, 11:14 PM

#

I found it rather amusing actually

frozen cobalt Mar 22, 2021, 6:11 AM

#

is there a way i can have the graphics card on my freenas server output for windows vm?

#

if yes, how?

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 9:13 AM

#

freebsd may not be the ideal operating system for this

#

Not sure how it handles passthrough

late geyser Mar 22, 2021, 1:04 PM

#

y'all i gotta configure the classic router

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you know the one

#

linksys WRT54GL

#

this is a commercial router with wireless capabilities

#

which isn't an issue

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IF the firmware worked

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because i'm just getting a repeatedly blinking power LED

pallid cove Mar 22, 2021, 1:23 PM

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is this good?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 1:26 PM

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yeah

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good enough for most people

late geyser Mar 22, 2021, 1:29 PM

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maybe don't publish your IP. also read what the banner says

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or whatever it's called

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 1:29 PM

#

late geyser maybe don't publish your IP. also read what the banner says

eh it's fine

late geyser Mar 22, 2021, 1:29 PM

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just look at the top of this channel

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 1:29 PM

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no one really cares about speed tests

#

as long as it's not ohh I have faster speed then you haha

#

but yeah ip is there btw

pallid cove Mar 22, 2021, 1:30 PM

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late geyser maybe don't publish your IP. also read what the banner says

oh shit

late geyser Mar 22, 2021, 1:30 PM

#

there you go

#

anyways

#

i think she's cooked m8. the power LED keeps flashing

#

no ping response either

#

tried a 30/30/30 reset and still no ping response

#

dead flash? or just dead firmware?

hollow marlin Mar 22, 2021, 1:47 PM

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Put that poor thing out of its misery

late geyser Mar 22, 2021, 1:49 PM

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i'll go behind the dog shed with it, carrying a shotgun

#

she's probably been a good girl

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but she's too senile now

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:04 PM

#

how to get own external ip per vm ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:09 PM

#

thick minnow how to get own external ip per vm ?

in what context

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:10 PM

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esxi server

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

yeah but public ips?

#

or private ones?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:10 PM

#

public

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:10 PM

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not unless you get more than 1 ip from your ISP

#

or ipv6?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:11 PM

#

ipv4

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i know whats the server ipv6, does this help ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:11 PM

#

?

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no

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:12 PM

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then how do can i get more ips ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

if you don't get more than 1 IP routed to your server you can't have each VM have an IP each

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:12 PM

#

can i use vpn ?

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like per server

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:13 PM

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ok this is probobly an XY problem, what are you trying to do

#

in general

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:13 PM

#

thick minnow can i use vpn ?

yes kinda

#

not really reccomended

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just get more ips routed

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:13 PM

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peak cloak ok this is probobly an XY problem, what are you trying to do

making a cloud service for privite reasons

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:13 PM

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peak cloak just get more ips routed

yea how ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:13 PM

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ok but why need for more ips

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:14 PM

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thick minnow yea how ?

pay for them from ISP

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:14 PM

#

peak cloak pay for them from ISP

like 10$ per 100 ip ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:14 PM

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lol nope

#

it's more like 10 dollars extra per 1 ip

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:14 PM

#

i don't know anything about it

#

oh

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:14 PM

#

at least on my isp

#

AND you need to have a business plan

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

so its more focused to real business

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

your ISP may not even support it

#

and you need a router that can do it

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not some consumer router

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

my router is a 30 year old dial up

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

yeah no

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

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like its old

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not that old

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:15 PM

#

but why

#

can't you just live with one ip?

#

what's the issue

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:16 PM

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cuz other people around the world will L A G if too far

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:16 PM

#

wut

#

no

#

if you get more IPs you will still lag

#

WaitWhat

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:16 PM

#

i mean like

#

if you are trying to access a server in australia and you live in us

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its far

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:17 PM

#

ok

#

yeah

#

and how will more IPs help?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

wait i just realized

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

this EXSI server is self-hosted right?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

yea

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

yeah

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

its an hpe

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:18 PM

#

more ips will not help at all

#

still same server

#

same route

#

to combat latency you just need a server closer to end user

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:19 PM

#

ok

#

does aws have esxi ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:19 PM

#

why esxi?

#

they already have their own vps's

#

also

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

i need a lot of vms

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

by using aws you are kinda getting rid of the whole point of your own private cloud

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

thick minnow i need a lot of vms

ok and?

#

just use amazon vps's

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 PM

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its like 976543234567 doller per month

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 PM

#

ok

#

you won't be able to run a lot of vm's on a small resource server

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

3 tb of ram is small ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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idk if amazon even supports nested virtualizaion

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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thick minnow 3 tb of ram is small ?

wut?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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thats my hpe server

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

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ok, I'm talking about AWS

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:21 PM

#

oh

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

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thick minnow thats my hpe server

what server

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

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my server

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

#

model?

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

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how do i know ?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

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you bought it?

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wut

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 2:22 PM

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no

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my friend

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 3:39 PM

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wat

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@thick minnow if you want more public addresses, you need an ISP that can provide these to you

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I have a business line, and I can just ask for blocks of IP addresses

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That does cost extra though.

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Internally, I use vlans & DHCP to assign virtual machines a public IP

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 4:59 PM

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@tame carbon ok

tender hazel Mar 22, 2021, 5:16 PM

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adding more IPs won't make things any faster for people accessing from other countries

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because they would be added to the same server which is in the same place

peak prairie Mar 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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Got it. Does it matter which digit I change in the subnet mask?

tender hazel Mar 22, 2021, 5:27 PM

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it is not the subnet mask you would have to change but part of the IP in the subnet area

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for instance if your upstream router is 192.168.1.1 and the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, that subnet mask means the 0 is the host portion and the 255's are the network portions of the address, so you can put the second router on a second network by making it 192.168.2.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 5:31 PM

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giving you a total of 255 networks with each 255 addresses (-2 for network and broadcast)

tender hazel Mar 22, 2021, 5:32 PM

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256 because counting starts at 0

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.1 to .255 are 255 addresses and then .0 makes it 256

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and yes -2 for network and broadcast

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 5:38 PM

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254 is last address

tender hazel Mar 22, 2021, 5:43 PM

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.254 is the last usable address, .255 is the broadcast

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:30 PM

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guys I am having trouble port forwarding, it used to work but now I cant find a solution

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:32 PM

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loud escarp guys I am having trouble port forwarding, it used to work but now I cant find a ...

what's the issue

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 6:33 PM

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quick question, i am using an aluminum chase Laptop from Hp and I am having Internet issues. By that I mean that every few minutes or 45s my Internet cuts or lags and this not ideal for Zoom meetings or discord call with friends and so. The internet connection works fine in my room (I tried zoom meeting and discord calls on my phone (Note 10 plus) and everything works flawlessly), and I do not have a cable connection to my router. My question is, is there solution to this? Is it possible to replace my wifi-card for a better one (if yes what do you recommend)? Are there better alternatives? Or is this a problem everyone is facing and there is no solution for? Laptop name:HP ENVY x360 Laptop - 15-ee0167ng Wifi-Card: Realtek RTL8822CE 802.11ac PCIe Adapter

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 6:33 PM

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could be bad wifi ap, or bad wifi adapter

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or interference

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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peak cloak what's the issue

people cant connect to my server

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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loud escarp people cant connect to my server

show the settings?

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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@loud escarp did you make sure your dhcp server always gives out the same address?

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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oh yeah

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 6:34 PM

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tame carbon could be bad wifi ap, or bad wifi adapter

are there better ones?

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:35 PM

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tame carbon <@!344963520712015882> did you make sure your dhcp server always gives out the s...

uhmm, could you explain that in English heh

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:35 PM

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ok here is a list

1) Can you connect locally
2) Is the ip to connect locally the same as the one for portforwarding
3) Are you under CGNAT```

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 6:37 PM

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@loud escarp your router runs a DHCP Server, Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol - This mechanism automatically assigns IP addresses to devices that connect to your LAN

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But these change at randomly

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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@loud escarp show your port forward setting, take a screenshot

tame carbon Mar 22, 2021, 6:38 PM

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if your PC has a different local IP from previously

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your port forward will break

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your port forward will break

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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no its that I reset my pc and now its not working, its weird

peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:40 PM

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ok

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show screenshot @loud escarp

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one of router settings

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and one of output of the server ipconfig

thick minnow Mar 22, 2021, 6:44 PM

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what should i look after when buying a wifi adapter for my laptop?

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:46 PM

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peak cloak Mar 22, 2021, 6:48 PM

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can you connect from another computer locally?

loud escarp Mar 22, 2021, 6:48 PM

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uhmm, I can connect using localhost